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Part 2: Former Angels manager Mike Scioscia talks managing Mike Trout · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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  Speaker 1: You know, just speaking of your career, Trump, you put
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  Speaker 1: the work in. You know, you can talk about guys
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: that come quickly, you know, you talk about Frank Rodriguez
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  Speaker 1: or some guys that kind of really move forward. You
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: worked hard in the minor leagues. Seems like you spent
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: about fifteen years in the minor leagues. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: seemed like it was a while, but you figured it out.
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  Speaker 1: You move forward and became a force in the major leagues.
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  Speaker 1: And for every guy that maybe moves a little quicker,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a guy that got guy in your
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  Speaker 1: shoes that maybe is that little late bloomer, gets together
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  Speaker 1: a little bit later, but doesn't give up on themselves
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  Speaker 1: and moves forward. I think that's the beauty of this
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  Speaker 1: game is is just to see the different paths that
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  Speaker 1: you know, the young men take to get into pro
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  Speaker 1: ball first of all, but make it to the major leagues.
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  Speaker 1: And I certainly were all tipped our up to what
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  Speaker 1: you did because we know what a grind it was.
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  Speaker 1: And once you figured it out, though you had it,
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  Speaker 1: there was no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, repeating levels is a lot of fun. It's
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's what you want to do.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what.
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  Speaker 1: It's like being hill back in school. You know where
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  Speaker 1: we answer the last year, but it was still you know,
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  Speaker 1: you had you had challenges for sure, and you know
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  Speaker 1: you came out on the other side of it in
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  Speaker 1: the sunshine and it was great to watch.
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  Speaker 4: Well when I you know, I needed to work. I
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  Speaker 4: think part of being as i'm maturity a better self
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  Speaker 4: evaluator and probably as a younger, especially as a minor leaguer,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't do a very good job. I you know,
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  Speaker 4: probably thought my defense was just fine and everyone else
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  Speaker 4: knew it was not. And you know, Rob Peachelo, I
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  Speaker 4: credit with uh, you know, a tony. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how many countless hours behind the scenes and unique drills
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  Speaker 4: that I would be doing alone. I'd noticed it was
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  Speaker 4: just me and that started to clue me in pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 4: That was instructionally, but you know I had a long
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  Speaker 4: way to go in the eyes of many. And uh
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  Speaker 4: but I did you know one thing I never got
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  Speaker 4: sent down And that may not matter to a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people, but it was. It was I'm pretty proud
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  Speaker 4: of that, and you know that's everyone's got things they
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  Speaker 4: look back on. But I do, you know, not going
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  Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame, nothing like that. But I
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  Speaker 4: can't say that, So that was kind of special.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask.
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  Speaker 4: About a center fielder you you managed fairly certain you're
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  Speaker 4: going to say he was the most talented player that
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  Speaker 4: that you had the privilege of managing. I think you
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  Speaker 4: know he's a Northeast guy too. Maybe you joked at
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  Speaker 4: times about playing them in football and you know, taking
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  Speaker 4: it to him and taking something else. But uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe your first impressions of a young Mike trout and
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  Speaker 4: you know his progression as as you saw.
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  Speaker 1: Him, Well, you're right about Trouty. I mean Troudy's East Coast.
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  Speaker 1: He's very family oriented and from the first day he
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  Speaker 1: stepped on the field, everyone was raving about not only
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  Speaker 1: his physical ability, but his his toughness and uh and
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  Speaker 1: and everything he could bring to you know, to to
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  Speaker 1: a baseball team.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, Mike worked very hard.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, his talent level was unbelievable, but he worked
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  Speaker 1: very hard on the defensive end, not because he wasn't good.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted to be the best he could be. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the plate, running the bases, everything, everything was just it
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  Speaker 1: looks so easy to Mike to go play baseball at
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  Speaker 1: this level. But he worked very hard at it, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, he grew up just on the just east
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  Speaker 1: of Philadelphia in South Jersey, big Philadelphia sports fan, so
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  Speaker 1: I know we kind of bonded with that, and what
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  Speaker 1: what what he comes. I'm a great family, tremendous family man,
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  Speaker 1: and I really think that Mike still has the ability
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  Speaker 1: to do some of the things that have kind of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it have kind of slipped a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: is contingent on some of his health. But if you
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  Speaker 1: saw the swing the back the last two weeks of
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  Speaker 1: the season last season, you know it's still in there,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see what it might turn out
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  Speaker 1: to be this year. You asked me about tough conversations, though,
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  Speaker 1: one of them was you forced You forced it. Remember
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  Speaker 1: when you came up and Vernon Wells had gotten banged up.
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  Speaker 1: You might not realize this, but Vernon Wells was you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was supposed to go out there and play, and
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  Speaker 1: you played so well, You played so well out there
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  Speaker 1: that we all.
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  Speaker 3: Had to have you know, I had to have.
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  Speaker 1: A conversation with Vernon, and you know, he'd been being
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  Speaker 1: a veteran and he took it very heart, but I said,
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  Speaker 1: vern I said, there is no way that we can
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  Speaker 1: take Mark Trumpell out of the lineup. You're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to try to get some bats. We can get
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  Speaker 1: them for you, but he's got a play. So you
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  Speaker 1: forced ahead that tough conversation.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you.
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  Speaker 1: Realize at the time, but you certainly are in that position,
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  Speaker 1: and you were. We were a better team with you
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  Speaker 1: playing out there every day.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know about that conversation. I do remember
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  Speaker 4: when they switched the banners in the front of the stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Mine went up and it just went down. And I
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  Speaker 2: bring you to the hard thing. No, no, I know that,
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  Speaker 2: I know that.
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  Speaker 4: But Vernon was a tremendous teammate. He really I think people,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Angel fans might not. You know, the production
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  Speaker 4: wasn't quite what it was in Toronto, but I have
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  Speaker 4: to give him credit. He was a great mentor to me.
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  Speaker 4: He held some team events behind the scenes and did
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  Speaker 4: a lot of things that went a long way that
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  Speaker 4: you know, maybe haven't been talked about. But I just
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  Speaker 4: wanted to make it known that you know, he was
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  Speaker 4: a first class teammate and he never held anything against me.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because we did.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I took some of his playing time and
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  Speaker 4: I know some guys wouldn't react very well to that.
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  Speaker 1: No, he he, he took it like a pro after
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  Speaker 1: the initial you know, meeting of of and he worked hard.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he worked hard to get back his game back.
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  Speaker 1: And now he was even though it was tough. It's
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  Speaker 1: tough when everybody here is that, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we've all been there. But he eventually took it the
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  Speaker 1: way I knew he would take it, and I know
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  Speaker 1: he helped you and mentored you would talk about one
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  Speaker 1: of the things you're you know that you know, we
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  Speaker 1: get lost sometimes in what we're about in this game.
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  Speaker 1: And you did you did something that really I think
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  Speaker 1: shows your depth of character. And it was off the field.
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  Speaker 1: You were scheduled to go to the the the Children's
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  Speaker 1: Chris was part of the Dangers what have every year
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these kids were under you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: underprivileged and would come and have a great day at
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  Speaker 1: the stadium and get gifts. In your scheduled to do it.
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  Speaker 1: And a couple of weeks before that, you find out
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  Speaker 1: that you're traded to the Diamondbacks and lo and behold
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  Speaker 1: they had talked about from the word I get scheduling
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  Speaker 1: someone else to take your place, and when they called you,
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  Speaker 1: you said, no, no, no, no, if you unless you
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  Speaker 1: don't want me there, because I'm a diamondback, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be there. And you showed up and you gave
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  Speaker 1: those kids a smile for one day and Trump, it's
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  Speaker 1: one of the best things that I've heard along from
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  Speaker 1: from my life. And I want to, you know, let
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  Speaker 1: you know what it meant to all of us that
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  Speaker 1: you did that. It shows the character you have and
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  Speaker 1: what you're about. So that was that was a beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well thanks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: At the time, I you know, I did it for
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  Speaker 4: what I felt were the right reasons. I didn't expect
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  Speaker 4: any you know, kind of publicity or you know, it
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  Speaker 4: was nice that people did acknowledge it, but I just said,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's the right thing to do. It's it's
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  Speaker 4: it's nothing. You know that it's about these kids. It's
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  Speaker 4: it's not about me. And uh, I.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you saying that that that means a lot.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, there's there's a lot of ways, as
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  Speaker 4: you know, a player, you can give back, and especially
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  Speaker 4: with with with kids.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to sign.
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  Speaker 4: As many autographs for everyone as I could, but especially
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  Speaker 4: for for the kids because it can really go a
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  Speaker 4: long way. And the Christmas party and things like that.
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  Speaker 4: They don't happen all the time, but when they do,
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  Speaker 4: you want to do what you can. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: very important. So I appreciate that. There's a couple of
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  Speaker 4: things I wanted to ask you about in the current
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  Speaker 4: game that I think, you know you you would be
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  Speaker 4: a perfect one to ask.
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  Speaker 2: The catching on one knee. I don't personally like it.
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  Speaker 4: I've picked guys brains about it that are in the
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  Speaker 4: game that are you know, sorry, Hank, but uh you know,
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  Speaker 4: and they've they've explained it to me, uh you know,
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  Speaker 4: and Hank's explained it in a good way. But I
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  Speaker 4: can't stomach watching a run score because the guy's trying
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  Speaker 4: to steal a strike, you know, below the knee or something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand that maybe you could help me with that.
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  Speaker 1: Trouble's a couple of things, you know, I caught an
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  Speaker 1: eon ago, but I remember being an instructional league in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven and Del Crandell, who was one of
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  Speaker 1: the big influences of my life as far as becoming,
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  Speaker 1: you know, approving as a catcher. He would he would
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  Speaker 1: talk about the low pitch and he would tell us,
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  Speaker 1: look at we need to get that glove up under
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  Speaker 1: the up under the hitters knee, and we certainly want
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  Speaker 1: to catch that that low pitch coming up.
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  Speaker 3: And he would let us.
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  Speaker 1: Drop our glove about six inches so we can maintain
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  Speaker 1: a target and we would catch that low pitch coming
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  Speaker 1: up and we would we would frame it and we
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  Speaker 1: will get the strike calls that you know that they're
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  Speaker 1: getting today. I think you can accomplish this from a
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  Speaker 1: conventional stance, as you know, as as as easy asy
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  Speaker 1: you to do from one knee. Now here's the rub.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much responsibility a catcher has. If there's nobody
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  Speaker 1: on first pitch to a hitter, all you really have
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  Speaker 1: to worry about is giving a target a catching the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Well right now is they put so much focus on
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  Speaker 1: getting up under the ball that the target evaporates and
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  Speaker 1: most pitchers are thrown into a black hole now because
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  Speaker 1: I don't have that perspective of where the glove would be.
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  Speaker 1: So so when when a guy, when you get two
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  Speaker 1: strikes on a hitter, that responsibility grows from it, just
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  Speaker 1: catch the ball to you always need to receive the ball.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, I need to have some mobility
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  Speaker 1: to block that slider if it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit off corner in the dirt, to get my
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  Speaker 1: body in front of it.
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  Speaker 3: It was right in front of me. It's easy.
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  Speaker 1: But if you tried to catch on one knee and
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  Speaker 1: block Frankie Rodriguez's breaking ball that landed eighteen inches to
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  Speaker 1: your right, you'd have to wave at it.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: So my question to like Hank or anybody that says
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  Speaker 1: you have to be on one knee and not give
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  Speaker 1: a target, is why is it a question of either one?
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  Speaker 3: Why can't we do both?
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  Speaker 1: Why can't we get a conventional stance, give a target
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  Speaker 1: that a pitcher needs, drop the glove a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: come up underneath that low pitch and have the same result.
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  Speaker 1: And just from even now throwing the ball, how much
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  Speaker 1: you have to cheat to throw the ball And you'll
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  Speaker 1: do well if the ball is in your zone, A
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  Speaker 1: high fastball will you do anytime. But if that ball
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit off, your throat is going to
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  Speaker 1: go from a one ninety five to two h five
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  Speaker 1: so the things are things that.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: Are kind of.
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  Speaker 1: You know, kind of damage that happens because we're so
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  Speaker 1: focused on getting that low pitch. My perspective is we
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  Speaker 1: can do it all, and we need to do it all.
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  Speaker 1: So I'd love to see catchers get more conventional, still
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  Speaker 1: get that low pitch called to strike. But I have
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  Speaker 1: a mobility to block, to throw the field a bunt
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  Speaker 1: in front of the plate as as as you need to.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's perfect.
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  Speaker 4: I do wonder, you know, as the game progresses, will
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  Speaker 4: have the abs challenge and whatnot. Maybe we'll see if
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  Speaker 4: you know that trend shifts or you have limited challenges.
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  Speaker 4: So I assume it will still remain to some degree,
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  Speaker 4: but well, we'll have to monitor that as it goes.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I got to talk to Hank huh call.
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  Speaker 2: His number still works this morning?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, up a little bit. He needs it. He needs it.
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  Speaker 4: One other last thing, you know from me. A couple
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  Speaker 4: of years ago, I got to a company, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a fellow player with a lesson with Craig Wallenbrock, who's
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  Speaker 4: gotten a lot of publicity and notoriety. But uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he's a big proponent and maybe the first at least that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for a guy my age on hitting the
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  Speaker 4: ball in the air more he was he felt like
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  Speaker 4: that that was the right approach, and he alluded he's
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  Speaker 4: a great storyteller.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do this justice, but you know, he
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  Speaker 2: did a good job.
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  Speaker 4: But I guess you guys used to hold a summit
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  Speaker 4: or a conference or something, and he said that you
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  Speaker 4: and him maybe didn't always agree on hitting philosophies. I
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  Speaker 4: know you used to advocate for us that now you
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  Speaker 4: didn't want guys to hit ground balls. But I think
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  Speaker 4: maybe more of a Mike Schmidt philosophy of you know,
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  Speaker 4: line drives that will turn into two more as opposed to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, being all right with an infield pop up,
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  Speaker 4: which is not a very competitive at bat sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Craig and he's very, very knowledgeable hitting.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the one thing I think we had a
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  Speaker 1: little discourse with was the fact that I'm great for
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  Speaker 1: hitting the ball in the air. I'm great for Mark
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  Speaker 1: Trumple hitting the ball in the air. I'm great for
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  Speaker 1: Bla Guerrero, Tory Hunter, Albert Poojos hitting the ball in
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  Speaker 1: the air. I'm not real fan of David Exstein, hitting
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  Speaker 1: the ball in the air, not real fan of of.
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  Speaker 1: You know some other players that that are around of
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  Speaker 1: hitting the ball in the air that aren't going to
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  Speaker 1: have the same results as those guys.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the mechanical change to try to hit
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  Speaker 1: the ball in the air of starting to dip early.
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  Speaker 3: To get that little uppercut going.
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  Speaker 1: And as I've listened to some of the best hitters
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  Speaker 1: ever in the batter's box, I've already talked about La
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  Speaker 1: Guerrero and Tory Hunter, they were very flat through the
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  Speaker 1: zone and as they got that ball out in front,
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  Speaker 1: that that little lift would happen naturally. Now I look
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  Speaker 1: at your swing Trump, I look at if they throw
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  Speaker 1: you a little high fastball, you were level through it,
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  Speaker 1: and if you got out in front, that ball took off.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's the the I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: the issue I had and have with with getting the
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  Speaker 1: ball in the air is, you know, not every players
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  Speaker 1: built to do what a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys are trying to do. And and I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a there's a way to do it outside of trying
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  Speaker 1: to get this huge upper cut which has which has
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  Speaker 1: created big swing and miss zones in the upper part
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  Speaker 1: of the zone that shouldn't be there. So that that
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  Speaker 1: that's why I feel about that. But as far as
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  Speaker 1: what what Craig talks about has bout the balance and
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  Speaker 1: his prills, he's as good as I've been around.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing was just.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to mechanically alter your swing to get the ball
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  Speaker 1: in the air is something I'm not a fan of.
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  Speaker 5: All Right, Mike, we're going to end the show with
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  Speaker 5: a little lightning round. We'd like you to give preferably
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  Speaker 5: brief answers to a couple of quick questions. Toughest pitcher
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  Speaker 5: to take out of a game?
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  Speaker 3: John Lockey, shocker.
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  Speaker 5: And why was that brief second? Were they cut from
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  Speaker 5: the same cloth in that way?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were competitors and I loved it. Those guys
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  Speaker 1: never wanted to come out and that's what that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: it just made him so good too.
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  Speaker 5: Most violent home plate collision you've.
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  Speaker 3: Ever had, Jillie Davis.
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  Speaker 5: M tell us about that one.
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  Speaker 1: Jillie Davis when he was young, was you know, six
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  Speaker 1: two two thirty five and could fly and basically the
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  Speaker 1: center field owner I got the ball just as he
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  Speaker 1: got his lean and man, he knocked me back somehow
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  Speaker 1: ball stayed in my glove and uh uh Jilli hurt
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  Speaker 1: his shoulder and uh, I saw stars.
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  Speaker 3: But there was no concussion protocol then.
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  Speaker 1: So you just walk back to the dugout and you
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: got ready for the next shitning.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: Here's a little bit of a trick question. Favorite ice
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  Speaker 5: cream shop in the Bay Area.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's a story that we drove the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: whole team through for ice cream. I told these guys,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I said, look, if you guys win, we win. We win,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we win the series. Here up in Oakland,
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  Speaker 1: I said, we're going to take this team bus on
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  Speaker 1: the way back to the airport. We're going to take you
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  Speaker 1: off of ice cream. And I don't even remember the
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  Speaker 1: name of a Trump do you remember.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know where we were.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I looked up and what is this And we're in
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the hills of Oakland and getting ice cream.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: They came home with all these milkshakes and Sundays and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I just felt it was like, you know, these guys
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: that played hard. Uh, some of them wanted to get
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: back because they had the they had their fantasy draft
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: that night.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: But but it was it was great. I mean the
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: guys got ice cream.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: They you know, they won a game and we just
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: went a little we went little league on them and
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: they enjoyed it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: That's fine, It was great, great memory.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, toughest player you ever managed? And why.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Toughest player ever managed? I think there's there, there's on
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: both ends. There's players that are that are that are tough,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: that are disruptive, and you've got to you know, you've
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: got to stay on them and you've got to do anything.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And one of the guys who actually I've gotten along
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: with well and he apologized, and jose Gan he apologized
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: for some of the things he did as he moved
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: on with teams, and you know, we we had a
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: lot of we had a number of long conversations on it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: And then you get the other end of it, a
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: guy like Darren Nurstad who never wanted to take a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: day off, never wanted to to play at any level
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: outside of one percent. Uh. And so they're they're they're
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: they're tougher in a different way. You know, obviously that's
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a better situation to handle. But it's not always the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: guy that you would think that would be the guy
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: that would be uh, you know, difficult to manage.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Favorite postgame meal, all of them.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I got, uh, you know, after that game.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And even though it wasn't physically there was there was
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a little bit of wood burning here. So you get,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you get, you know, you get, you get hungry. But
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I mean it depends on where you were. One of
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: them is in is In where they bring the Mexican
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: food in the last day in Oakland, and they had
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: these they had these uh, these burritos and these I
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: mean it was like they were like silk going down.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: So but you know, the foods could.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Best financial Sorry how he was always peppering you with questions.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't know what that was about. Howie Kendrick,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Oh how I know?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: All yeah, how all the time was yeah, I.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Might best financial advice you could give to young players.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Pay yourself first, meaning it's easy to go out and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: pay the car dealership for that car, or or you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: buy that piece of jewelry or buy this or that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I think if you pay yourself first, it's less not
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a long long time ago. You're gonna be set for
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you should be set for your life. And so as
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: young players, you know, you never know when that you know,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: when that great flow of money might be halted or diminished.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So when you get it, just make sure you're paying
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: yourself first, putting it away, investing it to get that
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: get that mother load of money that will get you through.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: If if you're kind, your your sir at your career
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: goes different way.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Might be hard to only pick one, but favorite spring
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: training clubhouse meeting or prank.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I think Trump was on a couple.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Of those, right, he bows his head in shame.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: The best prank. Uh, Well, we had some great meetings.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when Shovinatani came in. We we
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: had we had a game where we had some Japanese
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: yen dollars, we had money from Mexico. We had all
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: this money up and in fact, Taylor Warded was just
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: barely coming up and he had to pick just cold
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: turk without which pile he wanted.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I think he picked the end and tv about six dollars.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: It was like a piece and.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: The other one were like, you know, about a couple
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of hundred bucks. So, uh, you know, things like that
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: are funny, but the best ones. We sent the guys
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: out to the fair out in uh the medieval fair
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that was out and I almost say Chandler.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Was, I don't know, we want that old riggs.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: No you weren't there, of course of course I was.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Butterfly Festival, they brought back a video that was hilarious.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Days I still left thinking about it and it was
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you were all out of that.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: No there, I think you you You sent multiple groups out.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: We had one that we covered a little differently. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: think we brought the entertainment in house, but I think
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: the other one, yeah.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: We had we we had a real quick when we
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: had the Ostrich come in from Jared Wasasburn brought the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Ostrich into the into our clubhouse. And I'm not kidding you,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Ramon or Teas. He jumped out how he got there,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: jumped on top of the locker. He climbed it like
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: he was climbing a tree and got up on the
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: locker and he's saying in Spanish, get that big chicken.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Out of here and Poland right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Right, and he was. He was actually sweating and shaking.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: That was that was something the best.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: All right, Well that'll do it for this edition of
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Halo Territory. Mike Soosha, thank you so much for your time.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us. Please like and subscribe and we'll
• 23:42
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