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Off-Week Bonus Episode: Jeremiah Smith, Dominating Defense, And More · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, it's Tom Mention. This on the show that
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  Speaker 1: we dropped a couple hours ago. Now I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: Now let's hear you. Here you go the Buckeye Weekly
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  Speaker 1: Podcast live on Friday afternoon. Kevin, Tony and I here
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  Speaker 1: you go.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
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  Speaker 3: Gerdaman here as always with Tom or and also it's
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  Speaker 3: Friday with Kevin Noon, Tom.
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  Speaker 2: How's it going.
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  Speaker 1: I like the fact that your power pause got interrupted
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  Speaker 1: by someone's cat. I don't know whose cat. There are
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  Speaker 1: multiple choices. I know it's not me, it's it's Oh well,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to thank mister business for the dynamite
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  Speaker 1: drop in, but that's okay, that's okay, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin, how are you doing better than the cat? Apparently?
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  Speaker 4: Who wants me to be sitting on the sofa and
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  Speaker 4: watching TV and and and she's the reason why I'm
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  Speaker 4: not productive. So now that I'm sitting over here, at
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  Speaker 4: the at the at the dining room table, kitchen table,
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  Speaker 4: whatever I can be productive, I'm doing fine. Kat just
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  Speaker 4: needs to shut up.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, so you've had the cat for fifty years now,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy. That's the oldest cat in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Well she is seventeen. But yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So again, this is a Friday show, which means it
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  Speaker 3: needs to be carried by the viewers, not us. So
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  Speaker 3: any topics that you guys want to throw in a
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  Speaker 3: chat we can discuss. And Tom, I'm glad you already
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  Speaker 3: through in the words Jeremiah Smith into this title because
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  Speaker 3: we've already had a Jeremiah Smith title on Thursday, and
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  Speaker 3: yet I feel like we need to continue talking about
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  Speaker 3: him because we mentioned this in terms of how close
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  Speaker 3: he is to getting these records at the Ohio State
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  Speaker 3: Receiving Records and Kevin, we can throw you in on
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  Speaker 3: this as well, and let's just go through and see
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  Speaker 3: exactly when he's going to set each of these freshmen
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  Speaker 3: receiving records for Ohio State. So if everybody would just
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  Speaker 3: like to bring up Ohio States schedule if you need to,
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  Speaker 3: unless you already have it memorized, and I know we
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  Speaker 3: all do. But through two games he is, he has
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  Speaker 3: eleven receptions. The receiving record, of course, is forty one
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  Speaker 3: by Chris Carter. So at what point in the season
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  Speaker 3: is he going to hit reception number forty two? Because
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  Speaker 3: right now he's on target to do it? What the
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  Speaker 3: at Penn State? Somewhere in the third quarter of the
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  Speaker 3: Penn State game? So, Kevin, I'll let you go first
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  Speaker 3: on this one. Where does he get that forty second reception?
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  Speaker 3: When does it happen? Because it could be sooner. He
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  Speaker 3: obviously could be later. But where do you think it happens.
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  Speaker 3: I think we all agree that it happens this year.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I pulled up the schedule because I do not
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  Speaker 4: have him memorized. I know Marshall and Michigan State, and
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  Speaker 4: that's about as far as I know. So the first
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  Speaker 4: place that my eye was drawn to was the Nebraska
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  Speaker 4: game on October twenty sixth. I think that means that
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  Speaker 4: he's going to need to up the production a little
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  Speaker 4: bit to have it done by the Nebraska game. But
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to say second half of the Nebraska game,
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  Speaker 4: kind of in that one series before. And yes, I
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  Speaker 4: understand this is a better Nebraska team than the last
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  Speaker 4: couple of years, so maybe they're not going to run
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  Speaker 4: rule them in the first half, but I think that
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  Speaker 4: in the second half of the Nebraska game is when
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  Speaker 4: it happens, when he hits that reception number forty two.
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  Speaker 3: Tom I would argue that playing in closer games would
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  Speaker 3: actually give him more opportunities because he's only played in
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  Speaker 3: like three quarters each of these first two games.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was thinking, because when you
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  Speaker 1: first were talking about this, I looked and I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be Penn State. That's probably exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: Sort of stay on the pace of about five catches
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  Speaker 1: a game, and I get you there about the Penn
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  Speaker 1: State game, and then you look at Iowa. Iowa is
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  Speaker 1: probably going to be a relatively close game, just because
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  Speaker 1: Iowa was probably going to hold the Buckeyes to thirty
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  Speaker 1: points or thereabouts, give or take, at least on offense.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what you know. Maybe maybe as Iowa's offense
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  Speaker 1: will produce some points from the Ohio State defense, that's
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  Speaker 1: a possibility, but that should be close ish. That should
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  Speaker 1: be a game where you're playing into your starters into
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. At the very least. At Oregon, you
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  Speaker 1: figure probably the same thing. Nebraska, probably three quarters of
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  Speaker 1: starters at least, and then at Penn State. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably looking at four games in a row where
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing these guys play into the fourth quarter. There
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a game where he has eleven
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  Speaker 1: catches for two hundred and forty yards and three touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know which one is going to be, but
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  Speaker 1: it's going to happen at some point. So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean to one dollar Kevin here, but I'll
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  Speaker 1: go in the I'll go the oh twelve minute and
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  Speaker 1: thirty second mark of the second quarter against Nebraska, he
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  Speaker 1: catches his forty second pass at the season.
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  Speaker 4: I'm surprised seven teens involved or whatever with you guys,
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  Speaker 4: I've watched your bold prediction shows.
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  Speaker 1: This is just a regular prediction. That's why seventeen and
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  Speaker 1: thirty four I have nothing to do with. These are
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  Speaker 1: just regular predictions.
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  Speaker 3: And as we've discovered, you cannot be bold enough when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to Jeremiah Smith. So there is no such
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  Speaker 3: thing as a bald prediction. It's just a prediction. Because
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  Speaker 3: as Alonzo Morning said, anything is possible. Is that Alonzo Morning, No,
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  Speaker 3: that was Kevin, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: So then Wizard, no, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think he said, don't don't leave that curtain alone. Six
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  Speaker 3: hundred and forty eight yards is the yardage mark by
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  Speaker 3: Chris Carter, and boy, that could be done. I'll say
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  Speaker 3: third quarter of Oregon, or for our Ohio friends Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: that he gets those yards, because I mean he's already
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  Speaker 3: a third of the way there. Essentially, he's two hundred
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  Speaker 3: and eleven yards. So you know, you figure if he's
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  Speaker 3: he's going to continue to average one hundred yards receiving.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that he will, but we've seen that
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  Speaker 3: before in Ohio State, so there's no reason to think
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  Speaker 3: that it won't continue, even though he's just a freshman.
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  Speaker 3: So I would say, yeah, second quarter, Well, let me
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  Speaker 3: see here. Let's let's go with the fourth quarter against
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  Speaker 3: Oregon on a another little curl that he takes to
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  Speaker 3: the house.
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  Speaker 4: All right, I'll one dollar you this time. I'll say
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  Speaker 4: the second quarter against Oregon on a nine route that
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  Speaker 4: you know, they finally allowed him get out there and
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  Speaker 4: run a little bit, and they hit him on a
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  Speaker 4: nine on on the on the Ohio State sideline.
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  Speaker 1: For six and he is currently at two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: eleven yards. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: And and the number to beat is six hundred and
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  Speaker 1: forty eight underd and forty eight Can I be Can
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  Speaker 1: I just go crazy and say first quarter against Oregon
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  Speaker 1: that he's that he's already most of the way there
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  Speaker 1: and he has like a I'm going to say he
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  Speaker 1: has a seventeen yard reception BALTMTNI. So he has a
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  Speaker 1: seventeen yard reception in the first quarter against Oregon. That
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  Speaker 1: gets in there, all right. You have to super chet
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  Speaker 1: from Mike Farino. Iowa's secondary is a lot weaker than
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  Speaker 1: in years past. If Iowa was taking average seven point
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  Speaker 1: eight yards, pert tend to two hundred and seventy yards.
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  Speaker 1: Oh issue, should be able to crush them through the air.
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  Speaker 4: No Cooper de Gene anymore. So, I mean, you know
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  Speaker 4: that's he was a hell of a player. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of people, I think overlooked them at your own risk.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I do agree with Mike Farino that you know,
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  Speaker 4: the numbers don't lie, and I don't think that it's
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  Speaker 4: a matter of that they're they're they're incubating the next
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  Speaker 4: wave right now. They're not ready. They're not ready at
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  Speaker 4: this point. So they are susceptible. But I also am
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  Speaker 4: very cautious of ever really picking a big score against
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  Speaker 4: Iowa just because it's one of those just one of
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  Speaker 4: those things. It was like a doult going against Northwestern
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  Speaker 4: when Mike Hakwitz was their defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: They just kept everything in front of you. You had
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  Speaker 2: a nickel and diamond to death.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I also wonder, and I did not get to
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  Speaker 3: see that game, how much of those the passing yards
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  Speaker 3: were just when Iowa State was trailing and trying to
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  Speaker 3: come back, and so I would, as they do, keep
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  Speaker 3: everything in front of you, but then also when they're leading,
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  Speaker 3: really keep everything in front of you and back off
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  Speaker 3: even more. Did that lead to some of that? Tom,
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  Speaker 3: what is the answer to my question?
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  Speaker 1: The answer to your question is I WISHTAT Broadcast did retroactive.
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  Speaker 1: It was easier to pull up retroactive STAT broadcast.
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  Speaker 3: You can go to their archive. You can go to
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  Speaker 3: Iowa's archive a STAT broadcast. Just go to Iowa right
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  Speaker 3: now and look for the archive. And while you're doing that,
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  Speaker 3: we will wait patiently.
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  Speaker 4: We'll jump in here with the other super chat. While
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  Speaker 4: Tom was working on that, for Merwin saying for beers
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  Speaker 4: and or coffee or Donado's. I really miss that place.
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  Speaker 4: I know that Tony has has knocked out some Denados
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  Speaker 4: here recently.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have. They they've done the They've done a
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  Speaker 3: deal where it's like the bakery crust two for nineteen
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  Speaker 3: ninety nine. But they're only nine pieces. They're they're rectangular there,
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  Speaker 3: they're squares, so it's not a it's not a real
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  Speaker 3: Donado's pizza, which is the thin crust for twenty seven
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  Speaker 3: dollars for some ungodly reason. Anyway, I'm not here to
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  Speaker 3: complain about Donados. I do also like it, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: I have not had the the real Donados in.
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  Speaker 1: A while, I have to tell you. And I'm absolutely
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  Speaker 1: failing to do this despite putting in the sport and
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  Speaker 1: the dates as filters, and putting in Iowa state as
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  Speaker 1: the as the fine search US that broadcast not being cooperative.
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  Speaker 1: So I will say, just to stay on topic here,
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  Speaker 1: when I lived out of state, Donados was one of
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  Speaker 1: the random things that I would really crave, just a
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  Speaker 1: Dinado's pepperoni pizza. I don't know what it is. Could
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  Speaker 1: be the salt. Who's to say. You might say the
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  Speaker 1: secret ingredient is the salt, but yeah, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what it was. I would randomly randomly crave that when
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  Speaker 1: I lived out of state for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just hadline.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, now, I was trying to help time with you know,
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  Speaker 3: with the staff broadcast, but you know what's on his own.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine, I'll pull that up. We have a
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  Speaker 1: Mike Frino says it was mostly in the second half, which, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's sort of what you would expect they were.
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  Speaker 1: They were both you know, they were both behind, but
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  Speaker 1: also much more efficient in the second half, So that's
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  Speaker 1: not really a surprise. They weren't. I mean, they weren't
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  Speaker 1: down by forty, so it was not a I was
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  Speaker 1: just playing prevent at any point. So also, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that Iowa State has the kind of rushing attack
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  Speaker 1: that Ohio State has to complement it, which probably whatever
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  Speaker 1: whatever you want to talk up to Iowa playing conservatively,
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  Speaker 1: probably the Ohio State rushing attack more than makes up
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  Speaker 1: for whatever benefit Iowa State derived from Iowa's conservative coverage.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my thought with the in terms of
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  Speaker 3: the passing game should be fine because there can the
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  Speaker 3: Iowa defense again to work so hard against the Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State rushing attack that the passing game should be opened
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  Speaker 3: up anyways, real quick.
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  Speaker 4: I have the book here, Iowa State. In the third
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  Speaker 4: quarter rock Obec six of seven for one thirty six
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  Speaker 4: and two touchdowns or the seventy.
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  Speaker 2: Five yard are in there?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, six six of seven for one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven yards. I mean, if you're averaging twenty yards
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  Speaker 1: per completion or better than that, we know almost twenty
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  Speaker 1: yards per attempt, that's that's not just dinking and dunking.
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  Speaker 4: Then and then the fourth quarter seven of eleven for
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  Speaker 4: sixty nine yards. So that third quarter is really where
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  Speaker 4: they were able to I mean two hundred yards in
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  Speaker 4: the second half of makkay, because America needs farmers.
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  Speaker 1: Troy b super chat a little something something for Kev's
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  Speaker 1: burger King on the next road trip. What's the best
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  Speaker 1: burger king between here and East Lansing, Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I have none of them.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I know there's a McDonald's and Upper Sandusky
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  Speaker 4: when you kind of go around that turn or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't I don't think there's anything else there. Well,
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  Speaker 4: I think I think burger king's closed. I think they're
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  Speaker 4: all gone.
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  Speaker 3: No, and not just any Burger King that we need
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  Speaker 3: to go to. We need to go to a gas
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  Speaker 3: station Burger King to really really make you really make
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  Speaker 3: the experience fun and enjoyable for us and exceedingly terrible
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: for Kevin and who has just left the show, likely
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: doing some cussing off off air right now.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: I know that we've told this story multiple times on
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: the show before, but it was I guess a Rutgers
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: road trip and probably twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: where we were driving across Pennsylvania and on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: So you get in one of those spots where you
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: can eat now or you can take your chances with
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  Speaker 1: the wheel of spitting the wheel of food for the
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  Speaker 1: next rest stop forty five miles from now. And so
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: we did that. We pulled off, we stopped and there
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  Speaker 1: were a recent assortment of things on the sign and
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: you could get yeah Popeyes, Yeah, Popeyes Yeah, and we
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  Speaker 1: would tear up. We walked into the walk in the
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  Speaker 1: place and everything was closed. The sparrow was closed, the
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  Speaker 1: Popeyes was closed, the anti Ens Pretzels was closed, and
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  Speaker 1: the only thing open was Burger Hit. And I was
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  Speaker 1: the first one to walk to the door, and I
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  Speaker 1: looked and my eyes just lit up. And I turned
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  Speaker 1: and Tony was the next one right behind me, and
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  Speaker 1: I saw him have the same glint of recognition that
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  Speaker 1: I did, and then he turned to watch Kevin as
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  Speaker 1: well as Kevin was the third one in and the
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  Speaker 1: look of just so it wasn't dejection, it was discussed
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  Speaker 1: absolute pure disgust on his face. And then Kevin had
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  Speaker 1: lunch from a gas station convenience store that day.
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  Speaker 4: It was great, had mountain dew. You know, you don't
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: get a body like this without making some really bad choices.
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  Speaker 1: Bondy by do Yes.
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  Speaker 3: A question from Perry Ellison. Will below average tight end
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  Speaker 3: played decimate Ohio State against matchup opponents. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that they're getting below average tight end play right now.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's interesting that all three guys are playing
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  Speaker 3: essentially the same number of snaps, being Gie, Scott and Wilks,
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  Speaker 3: American Jolannie Fairman. I don't know if that's because they're
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: still searching for their number one or those three guys,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they all deserve to play because they're playing,
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  Speaker 3: so they're quote unquote game ready. But it will be
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  Speaker 3: interesting to see if somebody starts to grade out ahead
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  Speaker 3: and then that that's the guy who plays more against Orgon,
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  Speaker 3: And I would assume that that's going to be the
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  Speaker 3: case in terms of whoever's blocking best is probably going
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  Speaker 3: to play the most snaps against Oregon because none of
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  Speaker 3: those three have necessarily separated themselves as the receiving threat,
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  Speaker 3: Like none of them are Jeremy Rutgert, you know, to
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Luke Ferrell, like there is no disparity between the two
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: different skill sets. So I am interested to see who
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: eventually that is in terms of who is the guy
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: out there most against Oregon, and you know, frankly Iowa
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: as well, because the defensive test is going to be
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: there for the offense. So we'll find out soon. I
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: would assume the staffs will continue to remain similar against
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Marshall and perhaps Michigan State, but then then the truth
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: is going to start to be reviewed revealed once Iowa
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: comes to town.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: It does feel to me like Willcast America might have
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit of an advantage right now. It just
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: it feels like I haven't looked at the PFF grades
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but I just I've felt like he's had
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: some nice blocks at times, and I think he might be.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: They brought him in largely because he was a pretty
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: good blocker, and he had twenty something receptions and a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns for Ohio University last year, so you
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: know he can do that. But this is not an
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: offense that's ever going to run through the tight end.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Michigan's offense runs through the tight end. That is Colston
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Loveland is read number one and also read number three,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: just to make sure nothing's changed. That's not what Ohios
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: State is. Ohios State has plenty of guys who every
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: time you throw the ball to a tight end, you're
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: not throwing the ball to Jeremiah Smith. You're not handing
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the ball to Trevion Henderson. You're not throwing the ball
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: to a Mecca a Booker, Caronel Tate. You're not handing
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the ball to quin Shawn Judkins. And I think, honestly,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: if they look at the defensive line, is who's our
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: best four? And the offensive line is who's our best five?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: And when you look at the offense and who's the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: best eleven, I don't know that there really is a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: tight end in the best eleven for the Ohio State offense.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: But they kind of feel like they have to have
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a tight end just for the run game. That's not
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: really going to be a huge factor in the passing game.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So deciding who's going to be the starting tight end
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: is probably who's the best blocker, and I think, to
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: me right now, that's probably Will Kesmeric.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't need to have a cade Stover situation
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: where he is your outlet guy when you have what
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: they have right now and how the offense is set up.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: So you know, I'm not as concerned about the tight
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: end being a pass catcher. As long as he's out
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: there and able to fulfill his assignments and everything else,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: that's more important right now. And I think that Will
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: cast Merrick is more that guy than Jilani or g Really.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think I'm not saying that the other
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: two are not capable of doing that, but I think
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Cas Mehrik, you know, we kind of know what he
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: is able to do because there is a lot of
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: tape of him at ou.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Looking at the snap counts from my friend.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Dan Hope, our friend Dan Hope.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I knew him before you did. Jelani Fairman forty four,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: G Scott forty three Wilkesmary forty two on the season.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: So like, these guys are really splitting the carry the
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: snaps remarkably evenly, and like I said, that'll that'll happen
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: for a little while longer, and then I assume somebody
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: is going to take the step up. And when it
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: comes to wilk as American, it's hard to beat his
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: size and experience on the line being a tight end.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Nate says the Pennsylvania Turnpike story is even better than
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the reading of bylaws, which, boy, that is a high
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: high bar to are clear, but perhaps super chat from
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Mike Farino correct me if I'm wrong, But Chip Kelly
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: hasn't really done anything with the running backs in the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: passing game yet, right, They've run a toss but not
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a true pass play. Feels like it could be a
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: big opportunity later on.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: That's interesting. I will say, just so I saw this,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: and I don't know who else saw this, the eighty
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: yard run by Quinn Shawn Judkins. It was a pass
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the the option. It was actually a little a little forwards.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: It was called back, so it doesn't matter. But that's
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: one where I would have had to have gone to
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Jerry and Meg and say Jerry Tho, it should be
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: well Howard stats. I mean that was.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: A like Gerry, are you familiar with our Bold Prediction show?
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Well, oh my gosh, I have the power where I
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: am sitting to affect how things are graded in that
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: that's I need. I need to be responsible with that
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: kind of power. With great power comes great responsibility when
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: it comes to great bold predictions and also Tom's bold predictions.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: But in terms of like this is this is a
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: good point, Kevin, because right now the running backs at
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Ohio State, James Peoples has one catch, Trevion Henderson has
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: two catches, and we know Travion is an outstanding pass
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: catcher and they are going to get involved. When does
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: that happen? Is this an Iowa thing? Is this an
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Oregon thing? Because at this point you don't need to
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: do it, but it will become part of the offense.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to look at the situation. It's like
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: when do you want to put it on tape or
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: do you want to spring it on somebody? Do you
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: want to force opponents to have to prepare for it
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: or are you hoping that you line up in a
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: formation that you've already had and you've shown run, run,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: run that you can throw. I think that's up for
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: debate at this point. So I think that you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: we don't need to see that against Marshall. I like
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: putting stuff out there on tape a little bit just
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: to cause people to have to prepare. I think you
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: do this at Michigan State. I think that's around the
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: right time to do it. It's your first conference game. Sparty,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: you know, certainly is not back, but I mean, I
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: think that they are on there. They are they're starting
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: to rebuild there, and I think that it's important for
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Ohio State, you know, to use that opportunity to maybe
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: show a couple of things, but you want to keep
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: some things under under wraps as well too, because it's
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: a long season and you know what what's going to
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: be new come come the end of the season.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: You remember I talked about this Tony and I talked
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: about this on a Buckeye Weekly show this week. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: when people talk about saving something for someone that or
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, what are they saving for Oregon was
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a question that we got this week, and the answer
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to that is, well, it sort of depends on what
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you mean by what are they saving and right now
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: this time of year, it's just about you do something
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and then what's the next step. What's the next iteration
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: off of that? Is there a swing pass to Travon
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Henderson and you show that and then the next time
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you pump fake that and then you hit the slant
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to Jeremiah Smith behind that, or you do a screen
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to the backside of that. Of that, you know, you
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: fake to the left and then you throw a screen
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to the whatever the different iteration is, and then there's
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: you know you're gonna next time after that have something
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It iterates off of that. So it's not that it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: not that it's a big secret that Trayvon Henderson can
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: catch the ball out of the backfield. It's how do
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you want to use that? And then what are you
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: going to do when you think, okay, we've shown this,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: now what is the defense going to do to respond
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to that? And what are we going to do to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: respond to the defense response? So that that's what the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: coaches are sort of thinking through right now.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Well, and it's not just Travion Henderson. Remember in the spring,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: quinch Own Judkins and the wheel route that went I
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: don't know seventy or eighty yards right down the sideline.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: So that is definitely something that they have. And the
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: way that Chip has continued to expand the RPO stuff,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's only a matter of time before you
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: see more throws to the running backs because it's it's
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: just another problem for a defense when they've there are
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: already enough problems. So then it's like, you know, we
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: could also do like, no, we don't need to do
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: anything else. No, no, no, no, Chips like, hear me out,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: and then defense is like, we've got enough, We're good,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: we don't need anything else. On this table. Everybody has
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: chipped in just fine on this, on this buffet. We
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: don't need anything else. And then here comes Chip with
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: like I've got a thousand and wings. Here we go,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: get to put this right on the table.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Now he definitely was the most important addition. If he's
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: got a thousand wings, I am all for it. Do
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: we want to go through some of the question Let's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of questions start already, so let's uh,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: this is this is I think a Kevin Noon question,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: although it might be a too soon Kevin Noon question.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Wayne Taylor says, looking ahead to the Marshall game. Is
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: there anything to deep dive or be concerned about.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I have not started breaking down Marshall. I'm hoping to
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: find their game this week and at least be able
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: to watch lay eyes on a little bit of their tape.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: But now, I mean, Ohio State's first three opponents are
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: are what they are, and I don't see any reason
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: to really be that concerned about Marshall. Chad Pennington, Randy
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Moss aren't walking through that door.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Now. It's just going to be another game.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: It's going to be a let's get out there, put
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: our points up, get our get our players off, not
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: get anybody to it, and get out of here.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Marshall one and one on the season, the
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: lone win being over Stonybrook lost thirty one to fourteen
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: at Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech, of course, opened the season
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: with a thirty four to twenty seven loss to Vanderbilt
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: to give you an idea, So, yeah, they this is
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: not This is not the two thousand and four Marshall
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: thundering heard coming into Ohio Stadium.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And there's a little bit of internal turmoil there at
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Marshall as well. Right now, Charles Huff the coach who
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: is a former Nick Saban assistant than when they brought
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: him in, I know, I thought, oh man, this is
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: going to be that's a great hire. That's going to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: be a fantastic fit there. And Nope, not even a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: little bit. He is someone who he's not at the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: top of first coach fired odds boards because there are
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: higher profile guys who were probably on slightly hotter seats.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: But I would be pretty surprised if he was coaching
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the team next year. And I might be a little
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: bit surprised if he made it through the season. If
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: they get absolutely fire bombed by Ohio State and then
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: lose whoever whatever they have after Ohio State and they're
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: one in three, you might be it might be, hey,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: do you have any cardboard boxes? I could borrow time
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: in Huntington. So there's some there's some of that stuff
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes as well, in addition to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the personnel gaps that you've probably been able to discern
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: without without even having Kevin steep dive.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yet.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, little no fact. If you are in the need
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: for cardboard boxes, just go behind like big big box stores,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: go behind bowling alleys. They throw those things out all
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the time. You can grab all you want, just ready
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: made for you.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Do you know who Marshall plays after they play Ohio State?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: The Western Michigan Broncos. A little round robin between Ohio State,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Western Michigan and Marshall this year, probably not intentional. And Kevin,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I have bad news if you're planning to watch the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Marshall game this weekend.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I saw Garrett post there's no no game this weekend,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: so I'll find something.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Moose out front should have told you. Speaking of
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighties comedies, Troy V says, Martin Short, Chivvy Chase
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and Steve Martin got nothing on our three amigos.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I never came for that movie.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think honestly, we're We're more, We're more Chevy Chase,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: We're sorry Martin Short, Steve Martin and what's her name
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: from Only Murders in the Building, the pop pop star? Yeah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Selena Gobas Yeah, and Kevin is definitely the Selena Gomessmr
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: of our end.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Anyway, she's a billionaire, so I'm okay with that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Wayne Taylor says, has there been any discussion of the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: bold predictions outcome from last week? No? I have not.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I have not looked at that.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: I can pull it up right now and this.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Was Yeah, you pull that up and take a second
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: to grade that, and we'll we'll come back to that one.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Here's one from Fort Wayne Buckeye that I think Kevin
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and I can ably handle. Will the fighting Fickles gave
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: them a game on Saturday? Kevin, The answers, no, why
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: is the answer? No?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: No, no, no no no, no, no, no no no.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: When you look at Wisconsin in their air raid, how
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: many passing touchdowns do you think they have through eight quarters?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to guess the answer is under one and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a half, and possibly under zero and a half.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: It would be one one one passing touchdown, one passing touchdown,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: five rushing touchdowns. This is not this type of offense
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: that you expect out of out of Phil Longo. This
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: is you know this. You sit there and you say,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: we're going to make these changes and we're going to
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: go air raid. We're going to get this out of
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: the Paul Chris Boring era. And they're, oh, they're getting
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: out of that. They're they're going backwards right now. So
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I think I think that Wisconsin may have a thing
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: or two defensively to keep Alabama somewhat in check. But
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know how they're going to score any points.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I really don't. I mean this, you know, this honestly
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: shapes up to like a like a thirty one to
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: three kind of game.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: To me. Yeah, I was gonna say like thirty five
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: ten or something like that, where it's just it's not
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: a dominant Alabama performance and it's not twenty eight nothing
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: after the first quarter, but they just sort of strangle
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the life out of Wisconsin because they're just a little
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: bit better in every phase of the game. I look
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: at the Phil Longo thing. Phil Longos had some good
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: offenses over the years, but trying to run air rate
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: at Wisconsin is it's like when who was the Army
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: coach that was going to modernize the Army offense and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: they were gonna I think, we're gonna be Bobby Ross
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: in the early two thousands and we're not going to
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: run the triple option anymore. And it's like, well, you
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: got to look at who you can get. You can't
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: get great quarterbacks at Army, so there's a reason you
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: run the triple at the service academies. There's a real Georgia,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Southern Georgia Southern. Paul Johnson left, they brought in Brian
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Van Gorder. I think it was BVG who they brought in,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and he's like, we're not running the triple anymore. And
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: he lasted one year because it was like, no, there's
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a reason you do this. You can't get like great talent.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: You can't get the really elite kids from South Florida
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to come to Statesboro, Georgia. There is a reason you
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: run that. There are not a bunch of real fast, athletic,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: twitched up kids in Wisconsin. Guess that there are a
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: bunch of big fat kids from dairy farms, big fat
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: white dudes who weigh three hundred and thirty pounds. There
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: is a reason that Wisconsin has run the Barry Alvarez
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: offense with great success for thirty something years. Getting away
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: from that I think was probably a mistake, and I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: think they are probably figuring that out the hard way. Also,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: if you have Tyler Van Dyke on your team, you
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: want Tyler Van Dyke's role on your team to be
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: not more, but less as much as you can, and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: they have made him a bigger part of that offense
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: than they probably should have. Hmm.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Do you know what, Tom, I'm not able to verify
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: all of the findings because some of your bold predictions,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: such as such as nine rushes for ten yards of
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: at least ten yards, I don't have that information. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: would have to go and look for it. We can
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: just assume that it did not happen. I will say
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: you did have Will Howard would have nine completion consecutive
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: completions at some point. I doubt that happened. I know
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: I got at least one with the I had zero
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: third downs converted by Western Michigan in at least two quarters.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: They did not converted a third down in the second half,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: so I got that one. The top six defensive backs
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: with at least five tackles for loss if I look
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: real quickly, and yeah, they only had five for the
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: entire game as a defense. So it looks doesn't look
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: good for you toime. We don't need to continue looking
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: to see three OSU running backs will outrun Donovan Edwards
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: by two yards per Carrie with at least five carries.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: We know Donovan Edwards.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I believe was at five point one one. Yeah, so
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: that did not happen, Unfortunately, and four and a half
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: sacks from Jack Sawyer, J T. Twey Mullow on Kenyatta
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Jackson did not happen, did Brandon in this return of
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: punt return for a touchdown?
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: No?
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: He did not. Sorry, looks like it looks like I
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: probably won. So thank you for the question. Congratulations to me.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Well, while you're addressing this super chat from Mike Farino,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I will go back and count the number of ten
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: yard rushes that Ohio State had. He says, can we
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: give some props to Justin fry too. I know the
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: competition has been weak in recruiting is an issue, but
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the transformation for Simmons and Fryar from September twenty twenty
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: three to now has been huge and cyrevelled has been
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a nice surprise. You know.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I touched on this a little bit and I just
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: dropped what I know what I think would have wonder
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: on the Buckehadle message board presented by Jeff Ruby's columbus
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: with the said something to the effect of, I wonder
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: if Ryan Day will release the same strain of whatever
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: the virus that the offensive line dealt with this year,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: will they do the same thing next year? And helped
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: formulate the development of this offensive line. You know, we've
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: talked about Austin Siravell, who has just taken this rise
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: as a red shirt freshman whos play tackle, played guard
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: and now looks really good as a starting left guard,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: which now will become the number six offensive lineman perhaps
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: or number seven offensive line and once Downovan Jackson comes back.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: But as I'm talking about all of this, then the
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: last line is kind of just a light of fuse
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: and run away, And it's like, how much credit should
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: we give to Justin Fry Because I know there's a
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: segment of Ohio State fans that really have no interest
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: in giving Justin Fry any credit. And I remember when
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Kevin Wilson would get the credit instead of Greg sta
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Draw or you know somebody else. Like I I've had
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: people telling me, you know, Chip Kelly, and then you
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: could say Tim Drevno or Mike Cellini like anything, but
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Justin Fry. But I do think you have to give
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: the position coach some credit for the way the offensive
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: line has developed. Josh Simmons was you know you look
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: at you look at Kevin you you posted this on
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: the board as well. The the doublet the triple option
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: stuff that urban Meyer was talking about. He had some
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: really glowing things. And Jerry DeNardo as well, I think
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: had some really glowing things to say about Josh Simmons
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: and the way he was moving and helping some of this.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: And you watch them and it's a pretty good unit.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Right now. I did predict Joe Moore finalists. I mean,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I think we can all remember that. Not to do
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: my own hornt after just a successful win in the
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Bold Predictions. I don't want to talk about myself, Kevin.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I'll let you do it now.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about you either, So we'll
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: talk about the offensive line. And you know, Josh Simmons
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: got off to such a slow start in those first three, four,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: five games, and then we know nobody really talks about
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: him now. And it's one of those positions that if
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: we're not talking about you, that's probably pretty good because
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: there are not a lot of people out there who
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: are breaking down offensive line tape and can sit there
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: and on on a weekly basis say well, he did this,
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: and he did that, and he did all that. You know,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: if you're not saying damn him for you know, allowing
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: two sacks and four hurries and everything else. That's a
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: good situation. I think we've seen Fryer really kind of
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: step up. But to Mike Pirino's point, I think Saraveld
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: has been a nice surprise. I think that whatever has
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: happened with the injury to Donovan Jackson and players being
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: ill going into the season and everything else, has has
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: allowed Ohio State at least to maybe develop number six
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: and number seven on the offensive line. And while there's
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: a reason why you're starting five or you're starting five
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: and six and seven or six and seven, it's a
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: long season and we've seen plenty of things go on,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: and you know, I don't want to manifest anything.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: But.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: It's good to have the depth because there have been
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: a lot of years where Ohio State has been five
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: and a half deep at offensive line and that's just
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: not going to get it done. So you want, you
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: want the year that everything else is special for your
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: offensive line to be special too. It's all got to
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: line up for you to be able to navigate all
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: the hurdles and pitfalls that the college football season throw
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: at you.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: And we've seen We've got threads on the message board
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: as well x's and O staff Ross and and all
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: of those guys talking about it and showing clips of
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: you know, like Seth m'cloughlin dispatching with one guy and
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: going and getting another. They're clicking pretty well right now. Yes, Max,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: schedule whatever you want to say about that. But still
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: the execution is there, so you know, it's this is
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: what it would look like if you you know, this
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: is what it should look like if it's going to
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: look like something good later on as well, before we
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: get to thee.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I did real quickly skin to the box score, and
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: this is not official official. I counted nine rushes of
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: ten yards or more by the buck Eyes, not including
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the eighty yarder which was called back on what was
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: everyone's degrees was a nonsense penalty, so it really should
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: be ten. And also there was a rush of nine yards. Really, Tony,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I think spiritually, I think we all know that that
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: was a correct prediction.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Well, and as I said that Quinch on Judkins was
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: a pass, so I think your house is built on
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: a hill of.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Lies, so that had not been If that had not
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: been called back for a penalty, right now you would
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: be texting Jerry and saying Jerry. Actually, if you look,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I think you'll realize that I'm just saying, and then
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and then quinch on Judkins and Will Howard get the point,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: get the yardage. So really it's win win. Really, Jerry,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: are you this?
• 38:35
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• 38:38
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  Speaker 4: There's nobody's going to have to sleep on the catt
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: of shame. Per se this for Michigan State. It is
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: two beds and a sleeper sofa. So it's I mean,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: there's not as much punishment we should make. We should
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: make the loser sleep just on the floor.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta tell you there's not as much
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: punishment on a hotel. Sleeper sofa is spoken a lot
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: like someone who has not slept on a hotel. I
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  Speaker 1: have a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: I have one twice. It sucks.
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  Speaker 3: M h m hm mmmm.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: This room comes with a bar. Oh really, that's a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: great feature. Well it's in the middle of your back.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: That's great. Okay, good, good, all right. Tyler Shores says,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: anyone know where Arkansas State ranks for non Power five
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to misrepresent the performance against Michigan. Their fans
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: were defending Fresno State pretty hard.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Arkansas State's pretty bad. The metrics, They're not good offensively,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: not really good defensively. So I'm expecting a Michigan blowout
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: with Michigan just getting back to doing what they're doing,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: probably see more of alex Orgy but not throwing it,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: which means nothing really because they should be able to
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: run the ball against Arkansas State. So I'm expecting an
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: old school butt whoopin of you know, thirty something to
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: very little, something like six or seven.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: They Arkansas State's two games this year. They beat Central
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Arkansas thirty four to thirty one and then they beat
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Kevin Wilson and Tulsa twenty eight twenty four, So not
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: exactly a murderer's row there. Here's an interesting one for
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Wayne Taylor. How many All Americans does this defense have
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: or should there be?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Two different questions, two different numbers, because right now, Lathan
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Ransom is definitely playing like an All American, but I
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: think he's probably going to be overlooked by Downs and
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: so I would not have a problem with either one
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: of those guys being there. Denzel Burg is fantastic at
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: this point. Jack Sawyer is playing really, really well, and
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: the coaches will tell you how much they love Ty Hamilton.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Ryan Day said he's an All Big Ten player if
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: he continues to play like this. But I think I
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: think you can have three in the secondary, and I
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: wouldn't blink. And then Jack Sawyer gets some attention now
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: and J. T. Tu Molo has gotten attention. I don't
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: think anything is striking me Kevin at linebacker, But what
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: do you think?
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think anything at linebacker at this point.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, again, you know they rotate and they haven't
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: necessarily If you don't go against a test, how do
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: you really know what's what what you got? So, you know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: apologies to Akron in Western Michigan, but neither of them
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: are going to elicit a lot there. Now, if you
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: go up against three or four of the higher, you know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: ranked Big ten teams and you shut them down with
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: your line by then maybe you feel differently. But if
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: if if I'm sitting here trying to talk about the linebackers,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: I don't really see much. I'll kick it over to
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Tom for the last position.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're going through that. You're going through, Well,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: what position do we have left? Which he did the secondary,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: We did the defensive line, and you said the linebackers,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: So I didn't hear the defense line. I was looking up.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: If unless you're unless you're talking about the punters, in
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: which case, listen, you got two horror Australians. You got
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to figure out least one of them on average, at
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: least one of them is going to be an all Americans.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: We'll count. We'll count that towards the defense as well.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of them.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Nikey uh. Here's a quick one from Erwin Lichtenberg is
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: zach Herb Street Kirk's son and Tony answered this one.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: In the chat already. But the answer is yes, he is.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: He is kirkirk Street's son.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: He ended up missing last season with the heart condition.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Is not on the roster this year. I don't think
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: they've officially announced a medical retirement. But he's been around
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the team. I've seen him at games and at the facility,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: but not in not dressed, and he's not on the roster.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: So probably probably is done, very likely for his career. Yeah,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: but I don't I don't think they've officially announced that.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Arkansas State, Butch Jones is fantastic show today,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: top notch insight, perfect production quality and no michigantrols anywhere
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: of life is good. It's Friday, of course life is good.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Where's our Notre Dame control?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: It is interesting the shows have gotten more peaceful, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: that's not just this show, like that's Mark Rogers with
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: me on Wednesdays. Used to just be constant Michigan fans
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: not so much anymore, not seeing many here as well, So.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: You know, come on back.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: We're here. We're always here to talk like we love
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: talking about Michigan. When things are going well, when things
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: are not going well, when a contract is signed, when
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: it's not signed. When a contract is going to be
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: signed and then trying to be signed, just can't get
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: it signed, just can't come together. Whether it's this head
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: coach or the last head coach, We're here for all
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: We love covering the rival in all of the different
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: ways that it occurs off the field, on the field,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: through the NCAA, through a Netflix foe documentary, whatever, whatever
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: you have, We're here for it.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Good information in the chat here. College Football News has
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Arkansas State ninety fourth, and just for context, Marshall is
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: ninety first. So kind of mid level G five teams
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: because G five basically goes from sixty five to one
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: thirty or so, so not terrible, not the worst teams
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: in the G five, but also not particularly great.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: So possible pack twelve targets, pack eight targets.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Probably probably not six. Probably not yeah, probably not. Wayne Taylor,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I'm always up for talking more about Wrigley Field and
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the Wrigley Field game. Thanks guys. Has Northwestern had a
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: home game at Wrigley Field? If so, how did that go?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: And the answer is yes, but not this year.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've had a few all remember the one several
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: several years ago, maybe a decade ago, against Illinois where
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: they had to basically play half court football because the
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: alignment was not great with the with the walls and
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: all of that, but they played there. They played against
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Iowa a couple of years ago and then and the
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: thing about that game and the games before that, the sidelines.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Both teams are on the same sideline, and now they've
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: been able to configure it where teams can finally be
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: on opposite sideline. So that'll be new that you get
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: to be on the opposite side line of the opponent.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: So I'm looking where I think we're all looking forward
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: to it. I We've got some trips to make before that,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: but it's gonna be one of those things that it's
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: It's definitely a bucket list like Notre Dame for me
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: was a bucket list going to the Rose Bowl for
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: the first time. All of these different things that we
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: get to do. This is going to be another one
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: that I did not I did not have this given
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: on my bucket list because I didn't know it was
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: something that was possible until about, I don't know, a
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: year ago.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Right, I mean, we know Ohio State's not going to
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: play in the pin Stripe Bowl or the Finway Bowl.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: So it just looked like playing at a baseball stadium
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: was not going to be in the cards unless it
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: was going to be. Okay, we're going to have the
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: championship game in Arizona over where the Diamondbacks play. I
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: still want to call it Bank One Field or whatever
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: it was, but Rank one Ballpark. But it's not that
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: it's like seven names down the line. I'm looking forward
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: to it. I have seen that a lot of the
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: games that are played at Wrigley are low scoring, but
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: also I think it's because Northwestern is one of the
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: pieces of the equations. So you know, I'm interested and
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it, and it'll be nice. Instead
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: of having to stay out in the like up on
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: the North Shore, we will be able to stay out
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: in the Loop and have a little fun in Chicago.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: After our seventh podcast is recorded.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Now, Tony is a cups. Have you been to a
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: game at Wrigley before? Have you been to a cub
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: A baseball game at Wrigley before?
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was there back in I don't know, like
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: nineteen nineties. Something to watch. This is before Barry Bonds
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: went all allegedly Royd Crazy was there for it was
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: the Giants at that point, not the Pirates, not that
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: you know, not that early, but yeah, exactly, tom So
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I've been there once. I don't have a ton of
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: memories from the place, but you know, I always like,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: just we're gonna have essentially free reign around the building,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: which I think is freaking awesome, and just I'm gonna
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: go down here now, I'm gonna go to the field.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go check this out, and i'd be like
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Jody Davis once walk these halls. Ron Say once had
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: a cigarette over by this door. Ryan Sandberg was the
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: greatest second basement in National League history.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: On this field.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Richie Hebner wife washed the embalming fluid off of his
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: hands from his off season job as an undertaker right
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: here in this very sink.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's amazing, and drank Milort in that corner
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: right over there.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: All right, So let's see.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I guess you guys are not really familiar with the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: greatness that is Milord.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I've read. I've read enough about it to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: know that No, thank you, that's a that's as far
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: as I need to get there. C. J. Preach says,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: watching from Cocomo, Indiana. I will tell you I have
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: stayed in Cocomo, Indiana. I mean twenty years ago for
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: an Ohio State Purdue game. Uh no, disrespect to the
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: good folks of Cocomo. I don't think that's the one
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Beach Boys were singing about. I don't believe that's the
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: same Cocomo. Pretty sure not related. Jordan Kapler says, I'm
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: working on an AI chatbot to detect whenever Tom talks
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: to mute my audio. If anyone wants it, just let
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: me know.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Thank you for your work, Jordan, It is appreciated.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Wayne Taylor says, thanks for the quality show as always.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: That must have come in before I made my Cocomo joke.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: There must have been at the start of the show
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: the very first thing. Sorry way for making you wait
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: on that super chat I know, forty five minutes ago.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: I apologize for Kevin.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: It's O.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: You're not punching that up soon enough, geez.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Perry Ellison says, what games this weekend? Will you guys
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: have a special on towards so are we going to have?
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I think he means a special eye on because I
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: don't think I don't think we're planning and doing a
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: special show this weekend for anything. Unless not Michigan Arkansas
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: State going game goes particularly poorly.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: It would probably not something like that.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I know that this is a week that people are
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: looking at and going, oh, there's no you know, Boston
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: College Missouri is the only ranked matchup, and yeah, that's true.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: The college football fan inside of me, it makes my
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: heart happy to see the Civil War and the Apple
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Cup and the backyard Brawl, and yeah, they're not happening
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: at the end of the season like they should be
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: and like they used to, but they're happening. And with
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: all the different rivalries that we've seen go away over
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the years, you know, the border War doesn't happen anymore. Texas, Texas,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: A and m went away for like a decade. You're
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: seeing you've lost a lot of these great rivalries over
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the years. So to see some of them still happening,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: that's really cool.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, I'm glad.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I just wish the the Oregon Oregon State in the
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Washington Washington State games were not at three thirty simultaneously,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: so that we could just experience them back to back.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: But those will be fun because the crowds should be
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: pretty decent, especially the crowd in Oregon State in terms
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: of just having the the vitriol that they do there
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: for for a number of reasons. I'll also have Notre
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Dame at Purdue on and that crowd should be really,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: really good. I'll try to avoid Texas A and M
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: in Florida. I should be able to do that since
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: these are all three thirty games. But this is also
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: going to be one of those days where games maybe
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: kind of sneak up on you, like, oh, I better
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: tune into Old Dominions got the ball with three minutes
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: left against Virginia Tech and you know they're going for
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: a tie score or whatever.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: But and then.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Colorado Colorado State at night. People are going to be
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: tuned into that one to see exactly what can happen there.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: And I'll even throw in I think we talked about
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: it already tom A couple days ago or yesterday Indiana
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: A Ucla, just because it's odd and I love, love
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: love the Big ten at night stuff, like when we
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: got home last week and there are still two Big
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: ten games on at one in the morning.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Sign me up for that, man.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's I think the Indiana thing is a
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: great testament to the importance of Big ten media days,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: because I walked into Big ten Media Days thinking Indiana
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: is gonna be the worst team of the Big Ten,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and you just listened to Crypt Signetty talking. You're like,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't be moving my projections for the season based
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: on just what a coach says. But also, Indiana is
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: probably going to win three games more than I thought
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: they were twenty four hours ago. And you've kind of
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: seen that on the field already, and yeah, he might
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: just be a real, real good football coach. You did
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: mention real quickly the Apple Cup earlier. We were talking
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: about that a minute ago and it reminded me On
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the John Canzano John Wilmer podcast. They talked about that
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: this week, And when we get asked about game times,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: we always talk about how there's a million different factors
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: that go into game times. Did anyone know why that
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: game is a three thirty kickoff? On the I think
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: it's a three thirty Eastern kickoff, I believe, So does
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: anyone know why that is a three thirty kickoff?
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Is it because the Pirates have a home game.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: It is close, very close. It's because the Mariners have
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: a home game that night. They wanted that to be
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: a night game, and you cannot have apparently, I don't
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: know if it's Seattle municipal law or what, but you
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: cannot have a home game at quest Field, which is
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: a Seahawks field, and also at whatever they call Safeco
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Field now, which is where the Mariners play. And the
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Mariners did not want to move their game off of
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: a night game on Saturday night. So therefore the Washington
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Wazoo game, which is a neutral site game at the
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Seahawks Stadium, has to be a noon or twelve thirty
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: local kickoff instead of being a primetime game or a
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: later afternoon game.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just proud of Indiana finally getting to the Rose Bowl.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, that's it. That's okay. Maybe maybe it.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Isn't January one, maybe maybe the mountains aren't going to
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: turn red right at the same time or anything, but
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: you know, it's pretty exciting. I'm looking forward to a
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: game tonight. I'm looking forward to Arizona Kansas State. I
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: have a couple of I got the mountains turning blue
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: in the fridge right now. I'm looking forward to that one.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I think I think the guys pretty much hit every
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: game that I'm looking forward to. I think that, you know,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming that for Boston College is with the proximity
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: to nine to eleven, that it's going to be a
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: red bandana game, and they're always extra dangerous for red bandanas.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: So the way Missouri, I think Missouri is still going.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: To stomp on him.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: But uh, you know, BC plays even more inspired, and
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I think Bill Brian, you know, short time Ohio State
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien is going to have have them
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: ready to go.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: All right. I hope we've got There's so many good
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: ones here, I don't even know which one to go
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: with next.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: This is this is adjacent to our conversation about great
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: moments in Wrigley Field history. Teller Shuas has voises and
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: loop Pede on his hands behind that water cooler, Its
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: your hands, no wonder Steve Hartman tried to get the
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: ball away from him. Am I right, Tony, Am I right?
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Uh Odysseus says, one time at Wrigley Field, what kind
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: of cub fan are you? Tony? And the answer is
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the same as everything terrible.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't live in the area.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I don't like going to Chicago. I hate I hate
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: being in the city of Chicago because I don't like
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: big cities. I hate being in New York. I don't
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: like everything else, culture, malls, I don't like everything taking
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: two hours to get like, oh, it's just down the street. Yeah,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: but we got to you know, Parking is stupid, travel
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: is stupid. People are stupid.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: No offense.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I just I'm not a big city person. The red
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Bandana game, guys, is Michigan State next next weekend, So
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: well damn, I.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Assume people know what you're talking about with that. But
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: it was Wells Crowder, who was the Boston College lacrosse
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: alumnus who was helping people get out of the where
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: your red bandana while helping to get people out of
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the World Trade Center on nine to eleven ended up
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: dying in that, but it was viewed as one of
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the great heroes of that day. So in case you're
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: not familiar with what the red bandana game is, that's
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: what it is. Here's a good one from Perry Ellison,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: which OC in the Big Ten could give Jim Knowles fits.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: The only one that comes to mind at the moment
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: is Penn State's OC. I think that's a possibility, but
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I think I have real serious questions about Penn State's
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: passing game. And if you can't throw the football because
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: your quarterback is kind of mid and your wide receivers
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: are kind of non existent, than that I think probably
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: limits how many fits you can make a defensive coordinator throw.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say USC at this point because we
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: haven't seen it out of Oregon yet, and you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: UCLA is still kind of trying to figure out who
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: they are, and Washington, you know, I don't. I mean,
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: they're you know, they replaced everybody. But I think that
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I think that USC has enough run pass balance now
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: I could see it from Morgan if they figure it out.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: I really like that transfer running back they have. I
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: think Evan Stewart, who really was the offense in the
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: last game. I mean, I think he is fantastic as well.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, you have to have you have to have
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: the Jimmys and Joe's, and USC Oregon those are places
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: that have the Jimmys and Joe's. I mean, I think
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: if we look at the top end of the traditional
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: Big Ten. And with that, I'm still talking the fourteen
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: team version, which again is not sin uh Big Ten
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: member Rutgers.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, go on.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, how many how many great offensive teams are
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: there in the conference right now, and they're just they're
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: not a ton of them at this point, and ones
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: that you would expect to be up are down. I mean,
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: you know, there's no quarterback up in ann Arbor. There's
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Drew Alar has not shown us that he is taking
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: the next step in state college. So you know, you
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: have to I think you have to look west, and
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: I think s sees the answer.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people like Andy Kotalniki at
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Penn State for what he did at Kansas, but the
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: quarterback situation is a little bit different. I think the
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: one of the best coordinators they've they'll see this year,
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: they already saw, and that's Joe Morehead at Akron. And
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: I did see a Michigan fan on Twitter saying Michigan
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: should go get Joe Morehead, and I would not disagree
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: with that at all, because there was a time where
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Joe Morehead was even mentioned for Ohio State and it's
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: That wouldn't be bad.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's he was impressive at Penn State, and
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: you saw they pulled out a bunch of stops against
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Ohio State, and Ohio State didn't bite on all that
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: any of that stuff. So I really really like him.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: And he's one of these candid coaches. You talked to him, like,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: he'll talk to you about this time at Mississippi State,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: how he kind of got screwed over there, and and
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: he's you saw time when you were there in the postgame,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: like he's just I'm just gonna tell you how it is.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: I'm an acron.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: What do you want?
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Right? He's he has a Jimmy's and Joe's problem, as
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Kevin said earlier, where you can drop as many great
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: plays as you want to if the other team is
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: running a quarter second faster on their forties at every position.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Creativity only gets you so far. You can only run
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the annexation of Puerto Rico so many times before the
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: other team catches on. Here's here's a good one for well.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: First of all, Mika needs to wants to get us
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: proper shirts. Listen, I'm wearing a shirt with a collar
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: on it. It is gray, it is a neutral too
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: favorable shade in terms of Ohio state pantones. So for once,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can complain about me. Tony and Kevin.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: On the other hand, I'm.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Wearing a black T shirt. I mean, come on, I mean,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: we go. It's this is fine.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: I'm also wearing a black T shirt. It's just that
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: there's a blue light that is shining reflecting blue on
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: this shirt. And plus it's it's a navy black.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Darius Lusher says, Tom, do you have a restraining on
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: order on Jordan? Jordan Kapler? Just kidding? Are you kidding?
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Answer the question? Here's one from Troy. You don't like
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: coming to Chicago. Well, Chicago doesn't like it when Tony
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: comes to town either, So you are a bad Cubs fan.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I have been to more games at Wrigley Field than
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: you have. That's pretty shameful.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: I have been to at least ten games there.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: I've been to like two Clippers games in my life.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: I just I don't I don't like doing things. Guys
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: leave me alone.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: So you don't like baseball, So you're not a You're
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: not a bad Cubs fan. You're a bad American. Okay, good.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: So we've got that out of the way. Here's a
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: great one, Hope. Well, we gotta, we gotta, let's punch
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: up this one, and we're gonna end on the one
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: from Troy v. Fort Wayne Bucky says, when does the
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: buck Eye defense give up their first touchdown?
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: That's a really good question.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: And this is defense. This is not this is defense.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Just to be clear, Marshall's offense is not very good.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: So I could see them holding Marshall to a field
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: goal and or field goals to this point because I
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: will say Marshall just because they're due.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at Marshall's numbers right now. They've got six
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: passing touchdowns, two rushing touchdowns. It's going to be very
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: hard pressed to be able to score against Bia throwing
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: the ball. I don't know if they've got it. I'm
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: I'll take that. I'll say it.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I think that it'll be the second quarter of Michigan State.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: I'll see what Tom before you go. I'm gonna say
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: first quarter Marshall because Marshall has two weeks to prepare
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: for this.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I know I'm always the one that everyone
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: thinks is the eternal pessimist. In terms of, you know,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: being a hater. Let's just say though, being a hater
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: in terms of Ohio State person. If Marshall's not great
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: on offense and they don't get and they don't get
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: handed an eight yard drive or something like that, and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Michigan State has looked not very good on offense and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Iowa has looked not very good on offense. I mean,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: it's not out of the realm of possibility that this
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen until until until Oregon. I don't you know,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: the odds are at some point someone drops a ball
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: and you get a seven yard touchdown drive or you
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: just you know, a cornerback slips and you get something.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: These things happen. This can count, you know, if we're
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: not excluding hey, it's the third team is in in
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter against Marshall, it could happen then too.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: But it's not completely outrageous to think it couldn't happen
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: until Oregon. I'm going to say, I'm going to say
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter against Marshall, but I'm just going to throw
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: that out there that it's not completely out of the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: realm of possible ability. All right, now on to this
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: last one from Troy who has a better offense? Iowa
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: or Michigan. And let me just say, my eyes, the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: goggles do nothing. Well.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: I think the one thing is Kate mcnamaratha the ball
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: like thirty times last week for ninety nine yards. You
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: let Davis Warren throw the ball twenty five or thirty times,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: they're gonna get more than ninety nine yards. But Iowa
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: can run the ball, and Michigan has not been able
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: to do that. Yes, so who has Who's actually averaging
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: more yards per play?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Right now?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: If we go and look real quick, that's who I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: will side with. That way, I don't have to give
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: any more thought to this, because I shouldn't have to.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: This is this is a gross question. Michigan averaging four
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: point seven yards per play, Iowa, thanks to their long
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: runs from their running back, five point seven. Holy cow,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Iowa's averaging a full yard more per play than Michigan.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: What more do you need to know?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Just in some base numbers right now, Michigan total offense
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: one twenty one, rushing offense one oh one, passing offense
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: one thirteen, team passing efficiency one to eleven, scoring offense
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: one oh three. You don't generally is bigger bigess like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: not good. Bigger numbers are not good in this.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Is this like ops plus or numbers over one hundred
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: mean you're doing really well, you're above average?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: No? Is that not?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: No, this isn't This isn't any of that. This isn't
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: war or anything else. This is uh, this is just
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: base numbers from the NC two WA that I'm looking at.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: I knew that I knew things were not going great offensively,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: but I wasn't quite the soul that they were that bad. Yeah,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: I'm going to have to say, Iowa. Now I'm going
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: to take some poison import in my eyes.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: And we'll wrap up the first Michigan Monday time. You
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: gave me the title of rich Man's Iowa.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: You may have been misled.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: So Troy V. Michigan should should hire Brian Farence so
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: he can get them from point a from point eight
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: to point a. Very well said. I think as long
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: as you keep Brian Ferance away from calling plays, he's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: not terrible, but you know, not terrible is also not great,
• 1:04:17
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• 1:04:19
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