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Episode 803: Human Beings & Beautiful Imperfection with Sara Schulting-Kranz · The Trauma Therapist

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Let's get started, all right, here we go. So five for
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three, two and one, our folks, welcome back to the podcast.
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I am thrilled to have back Sarah schulten Krantz. Sarah, welcome back,
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Thank you. I'm excited to be back with you. Awesome. So Sarah
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has secretly blazed her trail in resiliency for over thirty one years. Having experienced
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overwhelming devastation and pain from a young age, she kept her emotions and traumas
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hidden. When her will to live was tested, her resilience kept her walking
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from sexual assault at seventeen years of age to the demise of her marriage at
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forty caused by her former husband's double life. Sarah began publicly speaking her truth
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in twenty fifteen when asked to share her secret and resiliency at forty nine years
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of age. Sarah's both a successful business in an unprecedented way. You could
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say she's an artistic visionary who creates her lens of pushing the needle forward regardless
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of naysayers or fear through her own fullproof and simple techniques. She teaches actionable
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steps to become more resilient and to use resiliency as a foundation for a living
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authentically. Sarah, welcome back, Thank you so much. Change so much
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it changed before going here. Remind our listeners and share with them where you're
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from originally and where you are currently. Originally, I'm from a very small
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village in the middle of whisk Well, Midwest in Wisconsin, eleven hundred people
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call it a little bit of a farm girl. And today I live in
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her Mossa Beach, California. Very different, very different, So all right,
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let's let's dive into this. I know you know, you drove me
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on the podcast a while back, but that was a while back. But
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for those people who didn't or haven't yet heard that, give us the nutshell
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how did all this start for you? Yeah, the nutshell will give you
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the third I could like it to call it like the thirty thousand foot view,
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because I also climb in a lot of mountains, and so that's how
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I, you know, pull out the perspective. You can read the details
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in the book I did publish book. My trauma started at seventeen, when,
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as you said, I was sexually assaulted by somebody that I knew.
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And it was a devastating time in my life because I was not seen and
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there were so many people that did not believe me, and even the police
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turned their backs and I had to get a restraining order and it was really
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hard. I learned at that time in my life, at the age of
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seventeen, that the most important relationship that you can have is the one with
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yourself. The person who walked me through so much of that trauma was my
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mom. She was the one at four o'clock every day would say, grab
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your shoes go, let's walk down main street of our town. Hold your
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head high. People don't believe you. But that's okay because quite frankly,
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you need to believe in yourself. That's the most important thing. She literally
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has been my rock. Unfortunately, she just passed July sixth. I'm going
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to start to cry. Mother's Day weekend was very hard for me. She
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passed July sixth of twenty twenty two. And she was there for me during
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my trauma that happened at the age of forty when, as you said,
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I found out that my my former husband now former husband had been betraying me
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for most of our marriage with men actually, and it turns out that it
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was It was just it was five days of the most grueling discovery and you
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know, across the board, you know, over Thanksgiving of twenty thirteen,
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discovery and disclosure. And it was not a professional disclosure, by the way,
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which I highly recommend that everybody has a professional disclosure. For those of
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the people that I've dealt with, you know, betrayal trauma, they're going
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through that journey. But it was the time also for me where I found
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that my resilience for my seventeen year old girl was still there, right,
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and so she's that seventeen year old self within me that learned so much from
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my mom. Is is that seventeen year that seventeen year old girl came forth
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with me at forty And I didn't realize it at the time though, guy
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like I didn't realize what was happening. But what was happening was that that
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seventeen year old former version of me that got myself back up at seventeen was
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also helping me to rise at the age of forty. And so between forty
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and forty two, I had a lot of self exploration, a lot of
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deep dive. There was one therapist that really was a great guide in my
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life. I called her a coach as well, and I had a support
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group. But I really held my secret a lot too because I was what
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I didn't know, like, who's going to understand any of what you're walking
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through when you just found out that your entire marriage was not what you thought,
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right and so and then you know, you go into that space of
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of course this what happened to me? Why did this happen to me?
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How this happened to me? Right? Like, is it me. You
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start to think that you're the problem. And what I found was, no,
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that wasn't it at all. I was not the problem. I'm actually
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a really amazing woman. And it's taken me now, I'm turning fifty this
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year, and it's taken me a while to get to that point. Right.
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It's not you, though, it's not you. It's other people's projections
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of pain that cause all of this. And so between forty and forty two,
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I did a lot of deep dive found myself in nature, climbing mountains,
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paddling with whales and dolphins, really doing a lot of nature therapy,
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a lot of nature therapy which we'll dive into, and then I started a
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business out of it, and in resilience. What I found through all of
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it, there's there's five really key pieces of my resilience and that's now the
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key pieces that I use in my speaking engagements as well. That's a nutshell.
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There's some more. It's a big that was very well done. I've
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had to do it a few times. Yeah, yeah, obviously, but
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I mean there's a lot there that I want to reach into. The book
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is called walk through This. When did you? When did you put the
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book together. Well, can I tell you a really quick thing about that
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book. When I was seven years old, I was dry. This is
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where people need to and anybody listening to this, please, there are moments
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in our life that are awakening moments. Do not close your eyes to them.
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Those are moments that I call them godwink moments. People call them whatever
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they want. It's being present where you hear something within yourself that says,
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hey, you can do this, Get up, there's a reason for this,
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right. We so often our ego takes over and we just sit there
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like we're naysayers, right, Like, that doesn't I don't know what I'm
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hearing. That doesn't make sense. Da da da. Those are awakening moments.
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And so when I was seventeen, I was in college. I went
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to college near my hometown, Madison, Wisconsin, and I remember driving down
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the road and I was having a really tough day, a really tough day,
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and I heard this voice call it what you want, the universe guide
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and angels that said, hey, this isn't for nothing. You have got
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to keep going. The other people are need this exact message that you're walking
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through in this journey. That's so hard your seventeen years old. I was
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about I was about nineteen eighteen nineteen at the time that this happened, but
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I was still dealing with it, right like, I mean, that doesn't
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go away. When you've been traumatized, it doesn't go away. You learn
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how to use it in your life. It shapes you, but it does
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not define who you are. And so it was still shaping me at that
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time. And I literally heard in my head, you're going to write a
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book someday. Now I couldn't figure it out. I'm like, from seventeen
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all the way to forty, I'm sitting there going I remember sitting out of
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bed with my girlfriends and Colorado literally saying, what was that about that?
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I heard this in that but I don't feel like, like, what am
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I going to write about? Like I don't really have anything to write.
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I had stuff to write about, but I still wasn't talking openly about what
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had happened. And my girlfriend said to me, I'll never forget it sitting
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on a bed in Colorado, which by the way, was where my first
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biggest keynote happened to be as well, talk about full circle. And she
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looked at me and she said, I was about thirty eight years old.
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They're nine years old. And she said right before everything happened, and she
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said, start a blog because people need to hear your voice. And you
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may not know your full story right now, but it doesn't matter. It's
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unfolding, and so this is there's something here. And then at forty when
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all of this happened, I remember we were sitting there going, oh,
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that's why I never wrote the book, because my story wasn't complete. And
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so at about forty two, when I started feeling a little bit more on
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my feet, that's when I was like, Okay, this is the book
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and I need to start speaking my truth. And then we had the me
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Too movement, and you know, that was my first blog post that I
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actually put out about what had happened to me. At seventeen, I published
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it and went climbed a mountain and literally was like, publish, I'm out.
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Went climbed a mountain. People had to say literally, I was too
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afraid of the comments. So I climbed the mountain for a full day,
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came off that mountain, and finally had the courage and bravery to open my
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computer and to see what everybody had said, and I was blown away at
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the number of people that were like, Oh my god, that's me too,
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and I'm so sorry that I wasn't there for you, and I didn't
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realize that the pain was that deep. And then, I mean, there's
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a whole story about how the book even came into play. But the book
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was published in twenty twenty one, November twenty twenty one, and it's it's
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been sorry November twenty twenty November twenty twenty, Yeah, and it's been just
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a remarkable journey in and of itself. It's just incredible. From the time
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that this event happened till you said it was around forty or forty two,
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when you think you said God on your feet, a lot was going on
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for you. You said, you weren't really speaking openly about this. And
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at the same time, though, it sounds like you were on a healing
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journey. Yeah, what was working for you in that healing journey? What
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was helping you? Do you know? So there were three words that came
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to me when I was paddling on the ocean, and again it's the awakening
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moments right where I literally looked in at the sky and was like, what
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are the pieces that are guiding me, and one was truth. One was
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speaking my truth. And so I would speak my truth, but I would
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I did it. I did it in small incrementals, right, Like we
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can't just go out there, and I mean, you can just go out
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there and speak your whole truth at one time. It's very hard, though,
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when the truth is this big, right, And so I was speaking
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it in small, little ways. I would drop hints, little things in
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posts on social media, or I would tell a girl like, you know,
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it's really hard when people are going through hard times. I'm going through
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hard time right now, right just like little things. I remember the day
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that you know, I sat with my friends down at a pizza place and
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I made my At the time, my husband and I were still married,
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and I said, you need to tell everybody because I cannot be around my
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friends anymore and just hold onto the secret that's not mine to hold. And
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so he literally like told everybody at the time, like this is what's been
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going on. And we were still trying to figure out stuff back then in
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terms of like what that here's the thing that is really really hard in a
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situation like what I've lived through. You don't realize the depth in the maggnitude
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until you get far out of it. And so when I explained to people
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that yeah, I was still in talking terms, and I was, and
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I've forgiven them. I just choose to have my relationship very different today than
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what I even anticipated it being my boundaries are hard set and that's okay,
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and I found that that's what's needed to be done. It's transformed a lot
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through the years because because there's just a lot there and that's okay, you
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know. So, but my truth was huge, like speaking my truth incrementally
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and then being able to stand really deep grounded in my truth. And then
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the second thing was inspiration, finding inspiring moments throughout your day. For me,
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that was literally going outside holding a butterfly in my hand for ten minutes
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and just being awakened by that butterfly're you know, looking up into the
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clouds and saying, hey, you know what, I'm my suffering, the
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world is so much greater than my suffering, right or whatever it was.
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And then the last thing was hope. And I needed to continue to find
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hope because not hope externally, but hope internally with me as who I am,
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we lose ourselves along the way in life. We just do when we
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are when we're all of a sudden, I mean I did. I was
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in a very codependent relationship. I lost who I was in many ways,
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even though I also knew who I was, there were parts of me that
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I did lose and I was in that space of like finding them again.
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And I'm still in that space and I will forever be in that space.
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I've been through a lot. What else to say, I've been through a
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lot. What's so kind of refreshing and talking about you, Sarah is you're
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You're very aware of the many facets of yourself and of being human. And
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it's not just all a straight shot from an event to healing. But you
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talk a lot about or you kind of exhibit a pretty intense self awareness.
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Was that present before the sexual assault? Yes, but I didn't know it.
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That's so interesting, there is an awareness. I'm so thank you for
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acknowledging that, like truly like meet human human. Thank you for acknowledging that,
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because I think that sometimes people mistake that for ego, They mistake that
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for oh you know, and it's it's not ego, it's literally and we
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all have it. There's this there's this space of us within us where we
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do have an awakening and awareness that was given to us. I believe as
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a child and along and I was, I was in I was a huge
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art major like artists right like growing up, I loved the arts. I
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loved drawing and painting and paying attention to detail. And what I didn't realize
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was that that was going to be my key to healing everything from along the
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way. We lose that. And I also equated to curiosity. I'm a
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very curious human being. I'm kind of stated like and I love like seeing
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what else is out there right And imagination. I love the imagination. And
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it's this space that was a child that I think that we lose because we
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become adults and we step too much into the ego space. So yes,
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I remember my one of my very first moments, guy. It was so
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interesting. I was probably ten years old and I was alone in the dark.
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I love the dark. I love climbing mountains by myself in the dark.
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Right now, it's almost fifty and I was in my small town and
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I was at the bottom of the hill that we lived at at the time,
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and it was snowing, and I was looking up into the street lamp
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and I saw the snowflakes and I was just watching every snowflake. You've never
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done this. You've got to do this rain drops. You can do it
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with rain drops too, And you just watch that rain drop or that snowflake
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falling from the sky all the way down to the ground. And Okay,
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now imagine where that And this was me at ten. Where did that snowflake
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come from? How did that snowflake get created? And wow, snowflake is
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the same. Every single snowflake is different, every human is different, which
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then went into I'll never forget this, like, wow, I wonder what
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people in Africa are doing. I wonder what people in California are doing.
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I wonder what all these different people in the world are feeling and exhibiting and
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how they're actually living their life. And here I am. This was me
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at ten, watching a snowflake fall to the ground. And I remember thinking,
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like having this internal conversation with myself, like this world is so much
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more vast than what we even realize, and all that comes into play in
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nature to create that one snowflake that then I got to watch fall to the
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ground. Nobody else did, just me. So yeah, so if I
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had this, I have, and you know what, it's been mistaken along
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the way, and it's too bad because in every single one of us.
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So Sarah, something about I mean, you are a force. There's no
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denying it. You talk to you, you are a force. And I
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want to get to how you recognize that and how you said to yourself or
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how it came to you, like, okay, I want to help others.
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I need what did that look like for you when that started to take
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shape for you. It's interesting, it's so funny when I hear that from
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people, like you're such a force, and I struggle with that. I'm
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going to state that, like I do have a little bit of a struggle
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with that, only because again I think if I could give listeners one thing,
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that force is within every single one of us. And yes, I
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am a force. I call myself a little bit force of nature. It's
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who I am and it's in every single one of us. And embrace the
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heck out of it. Just embrace and embody the heck out of it,
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because it's we need more of that, We need more of it. And
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to say it looks different in different people. One hundred percent right, one
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hundred percent. Absolutely it does. It absolutely does. I think the greatest
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gift of what we live through is the fact that we get to find ourselves
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and these different versions of who we are along the way. I had Now
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back to your question. I used to be a teacher. I was an
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elementary school art teacher back in Wisconsin, and I loved my job. I
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loved watching my kids transform into these little art like artists and then humans,
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and then watching them grow into adults and finding out what they're doing. Now.
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I'm in touch with most a lot of them actually even today, And
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for me, watching people transform was the like it was just super cool as
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little kids. So today I decided, you know, when I was going
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through all of this, I remember my coach at the time, she said,
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to my therapist, said to me, there's something happening within you that's
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not happening within others, and you got to figure that what that is and
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dive into it and use it and help other people. And so I remember
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telling her, I was like, well, I don't know. I go
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paddle with whales and dolphins and climb mountains and like love being outside. And
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then I started diving into the science behind that, and when I realized that
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there was that was actually the core principle. It was one of my core
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principles, along with my values and my beliefs and the you know, diving
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into what resilience is for me, it's not mindset, it's whole human body.
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I was like, oh wait, we have something pretty cool here.
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Let's help other people with it because that gets me back into doing what I
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want to do, which I've always I've missed doing, which is teaching.
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Now when I'm working with people, it's not only about the adult That's what's
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really cool is that I get to dive into them as children quote as well,
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right, like that playfulness, that fun, that spirit within that we
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lose along the way finding that awareness again and that awakening. So that's how
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it all happened. And you know, I didn't have a plan for any
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of this. Who does who does give me me a break? You think
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you do? At some point you were like, I want to write this
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book. Well again, I mean, that wasn't even my plan. That
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was like that was like me, that was the awakening, me listening to
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something that was plopped into me at seventeen. I wasn't a writer. I
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remember my mom when I wrote the book and she started reading my stuff and
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she goes, where the heck did you get this writing? Like, you're
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not a writer? I said she and I started laughing. I said,
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well apparently I am now you know. And she goes, You're an amazing
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She was like she was blown away. She goes, you are an amazing
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writer. I said, well, yes, I don't know. I think
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for me, it's just writing what's coming through me, just like art was
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right, like it was just you're painting, your drawing, it's coming through
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you. It's your expression of self. Let me ask you something. So
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there again, there's a lot of honoring of your soul, of your heart,
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of your gut, in what you in you. Yeah, you hear
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that and what you say. But you've been through a lot of trauma did
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you have How was that impact? How did the trauma impact that ability to
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see your heart, to honor your heart, to trust that. Well,
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it's that thing that I work on every single day, which is not beating
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myself up, because you could do one thing. When you go through trauma,
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you can look at yourself and say, wow, you're such an idiot
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for being in this position, which I did for a number of times.
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I kept sitting there saying to myself, how did you get into this?
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Again? It goes back to how did this happen to you? Are you
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the issue? Are you the problem? And gaslighting, manipulation, all of
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that which you learn more about. It's not you, it's other people's projections
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of their pain unto you. I didn't ask for anything that I went through.
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I happened to be in it. Yes, I didn't ask for it.
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I fell in love with the version of him that he couldn't love himself.
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And so and it's the same thing with you know, so many,
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so many things along the way. Self forgiveness is the biggest, most amazing,
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beautiful, gorgeous, incredible on a just it's not used enough, the
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most amazing tool that you can embody and use every single day, looking yourself
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in the mirror every single day when you get up and saying, oh,
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I'm a human being. I'm not meant to be perfect. I'm meant to
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learn. It doesn't pardon or condone what you you know, those actions at
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all. It's this, this choice and this decision to look at the patterns
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from our past and saying, well, that sucked, not going to do
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that again, because remember, you will continue to learn the same lesson over
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and over and over again. You will continue to have that lesson until you
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learn it and you choose differently next time. I got into some pretty bad
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relationships post my divorce. I will tell you that, and everybody I mean,
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I mean, I've sat there and gone seriously again, Well, here's
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the other thing that we all need to remember. There's this thing called epigenetics.
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You know what I mean, like dive into that you're genetically also predisposed
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to things because of our own genetic past, you know, our family,
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our timeline that we are now stepping into. And you were literally given this
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gift to look at it and say, Okay, I'm gonna choose differently next
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time, because you're going to continue to have this since you're also genetically predisposed
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to stuff. You know, there's so much there that we could dive into.
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And I wrote about some of that in my book because I was like,
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how does this keep happening? And then you know and then you realize,
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oh wait, it's not only me that I'm breaking these patterns for it's
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my family, it's my past. It's like all of those ancestors that have
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also chosen similar things that we didn't even realize. And you're breaking it for
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your future going through this. You mentioned some therapist. Had you all along
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been seeing the herapist? No, And here's the thing. I when I
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went through that thing at seventeen, I had a situation where I was betrayed
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so deeply by a therapist that I can't even explain to you how awful it
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was, how awful it was, And I write about that in the book.
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I mean, it was the worst, worst thing that anybody could do
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to a seventeen year old young girl. And so then when I went through
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this at forty, what's interesting about this is so I found my former husband
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help right like immediately, immediately, because what do we do? We find
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them help? And then all of a sudden, We're sitting here with the
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compilation of the wreckage, and I'm like, well, now what do I
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do? Right? And I asked for help over and over. He went
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to rehab, and I searched and searched and searched for help and called that
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rehab facility and they actually re traumatized me because they would not get me.
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I begged for help and I could not get the help. And so I
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went back and had a conversation, a very nice conversation over a breakfast with
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somebody from that and told them, like, look, the partner is I
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was devastated, and you all didn't help me. You turned your back on
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me, and that's not cool. Now, they did find one person who
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has become my dear colleague and friend. And she's the only person I'd ever
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seen ever that I trusted. And she also was a coach, not only
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a therapist. And I will never forget it when I called her that day
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and I said, I don't know what's wrong with me, Like I'm I'm
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literally losing my mind, don't I need help and nobody's helping me? And
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she told me, she remember her telling me like, you're also experiencing re
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trauma from your seventeen year old self, and let's get together and we'll meet.
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And she was that person that helped me along the way. I've done
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a lot of self work with other things along the way, though, yes,
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a ton of work, you know, from energy healers. I'm reki
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certified myself to you know, coaches a lot, so many different things.
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Your your website is Sarah schultingkrans dot com and that's uh, Sarah Shulting s
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C h U L T I n G k R A n Z. How
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do you work with people? Mmm? Very lovingly? Is that a great
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word. Let me ask you a different question. I know what you're asking.
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Who are my people? I knew you were asking me that, but
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that's just you know, me coming out. So I work one on one
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with people. Yes, I do do one on one coaching. I work
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literally across the board. I've worked with CEOs to uh, you know hr
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people, I've worked in businesses, I work individuals that have been living through
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trauma across the board. There is not just one person any longer. That's
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what I'm finding because we've all lived through something. I do one on one
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coaching, but I also run retreats. So I run retreats in the Grand
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Canyon, Alaska and in the San Juan Mountains. It's amazing the work that
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I do because it's really deep diving into who we are. Along with group
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coaching pre and post the Grand Canyons, my signature retreat is the one that
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I've been doing a lot for the last like seven years. The Alaska Retreat
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started a couple of years ago and that's fun. We do kayaking next to
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glaciers and different things, and then the San Juan Mountains. I deep do
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a lot of deep dive work with Florence Williams. She wrote Heartbreak and The
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Nature Fixed, best selling authors. She's amazing. She's lived through a lot
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of betrayal as well. And so we do three nights up in this incredible
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retreat center in the sand One Mountains in Colorado and just do a lot of
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deep dive. I love working in the retreat aspect because it gets people out
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of their head and really into their bodies, which is somatic healing and it's
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a beautiful space of bringing nature into it from you know, mindfulness, coaching
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everything along the way. So I do a lot of different types of work,
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and I also keynote speak, and so I'm starting programs now, which
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is really cool where that you do the keynote speaking and then you also include
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lunch and learns, and then I go back and do the hike with the
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organization, the leaders, and we do a lot of things dive that way.
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It's I like to call it the new art of resilience. So it's
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using you know, everything in their personal life to really create their best professional
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life as well, because it's so integrated, right and so you know,
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and we need that right now more than now, more than ever, now,
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more than ever. So the people who come to you, are they
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people who've been traumatized and or what now? I mean yes and no,
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Like there are people that hersks me simply because here's the deal. We've all
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lived through something, so let's just like knock that one out of the park,
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right, doesn't matter. It's from multi trauma to big ta trauma,
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you know this, like right, I mean, this is like this it's
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so funny though to me, so interesting. It's not funny. It's interesting
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to me how people don't realize what they've lived through until all of a Suddeny're
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sitting with somebody that's lived through something and they're like, oh, wait,
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I experienced something similar to that, or it wasn't as big, but and
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yes it was, you know, on the same spectrum of some sort.
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So I really work with people across I had sixteen year old boys trying to
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figure out what high school or college they're going to go to that have attended
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my retreats all the way up to women in their seventies that you know,
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have really been dealing with a lot of stuff in their life. And it's
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really across the board, which is what's really interesting about the work that I
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do, because it's not I know, everybody says you've got to work with
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that one person. I choose to work with that one human right, It's
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not about the It's about you showing up as a human being and me working
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with you in that human space. So someone who wants to just be more
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fulfilled or find themselves more or be their their authentic self would come to you,
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yes, or if they've literally there's they're like in that space of trauma
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where they're like, hey, I need some guidance coming out of that.
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Yes, that's who we're with me too. It's across the board. It's
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you know, I think it's people that are being called to really find this
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different version of themselves and just want to heal, you know, that's that's
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and grow and and do that personal work. Those are the people that are
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drawn to me. And why what is it about you that you feel allows
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you to do that work? Because I'm authentic because I walk in what I
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preach right there. It's it's there is a very big difference. There are
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people every single day who preach but don't walk, and I it's you walk
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what you preach, you walk and what you walk. And that's to me,
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like, I still do the work right. It's not me saying,
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oh, this is what you have to go do. Now I'm going to
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go home and do something different. I still do it every single day.
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I'm learning every single day. So I think that that's the piece, and
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that authenticity, that vulnerability of being self and understanding that we're nothing but mirrors
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for one another. That's what's the most beautiful piece. That's my clients have
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told me across the board, They're like, you're you. It's just like
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you're just you, all of you. I show up as all of me.
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And I think that that's that force piece that sometimes people, you know,
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they sometimes mistake and it's okay, I don't It's it's okay, I've
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been mistaken a few times. It's okay, why I am? I know
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what kind of winded you down here? But do you feel it's difficult or
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challenging for a lot of us to accept ourselves to be authentic. Yes,
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honly why you know, I think unfortunately we let the world shape us instead
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of our values and who we are as humans, what we were intended to
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be all along become us, right, Like that's I think, I really
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and I've seen it. I've seen people they're afraid to be who they are
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because they're afraid of other people's judgments and other people's projections and what if somebody
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says something? And you know, I think you know for me and I
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truly do believe this was my seventeen year old girl where I had to sit
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there going, I mean, I shut up for so long, and it
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was awful. It was absolutely It's horrible to hold secrets. It is so
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difficult to walk every single day in a secret. And so the best thing
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that we can do is release that and truly find who we are, every
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version of ourselves. My trail name is Layers. I got it when I
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was on the trail for twenty two days. Walk in the JOm on your
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trail and I'll never forget it. One of the guys is like, man,
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he goes get walking with you, and I'd never I just met him
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on the trail and he said, walking with you, I wear a lot
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of layers on the outside just because I get cold on top, not the
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bottom, but on top. And he said, and there's just so many
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layers of you. And he goes, that's your trail name, layers,
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and I said, you know what it is, that's my trail name.
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We all have a trail name when we're on the trail, especially like through
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hiking or distance hiking. And I said, that's the people out on the
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trail. They know me as layers because and I think that the most beautiful
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thing is to not be afraid to pull it back, to cry those tears,
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to share, to be emotional, to dive into those pieces of us
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because there's that powerful leader, guide north star in each and every one of
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us. And how can that shine bright if we don't allow ourselves to really,
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you know, shine it up and to let it be sah Man,
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you are amazing Jesus. Yeah, what's the best way for people to get
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in contact with you? Well, if you see me on the trail,
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stop and say hi, I carry a pair of red heels everywhere I go.
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So if you see the red heels, literally that's me. I wear
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them on every peak that I go on just because I'm like, that's also
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the version of me, and people have actually fought me that way. I'm
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not broking. I've had people that literally have listened upon and they're like,
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you're the red heel girl. I heard your podcast on Yes, it's so
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funny. I love it. It's so funny. But you can find me
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in my website Sarah shildon Kranz dot com or on LinkedIn. I'm at sirhiald
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and Kranz Instagram Sir shildon Krantz. My podcast is Live Boldly with Sarah,
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So that's pretty cool. I got to get you on my friend actually,
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so that's we're going to talk about that too, and then email me Sarah
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at Sarah Schuldon Kranz dot com. It's very simple to find me. I'm
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on Facebook not as much, only because I had kind of some issues over
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there, so I can't help it. Don't what to say. Okay,
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you have all those linked up at the show podcast dot com. Sarah Man
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love to have you back. Thank you. I would love to come back.
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Yeah, just so inspiring. We'll be in touch, thank you all
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right, by bye bye. The day at the cat between rounding