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Chuck & Buck 10-28 Hour 3: Gene Steratore is back! Everett Fitzhugh's here too & the ABCs of the Mariners. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 3: Sometimes he makes my seat a little too warm?
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  Speaker 4: Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: Joining us now it's been way too long. CDs rules
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  Speaker 2: analysts and of course former NFL the greatest NFL official
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  Speaker 2: of all times territory is with us. Good to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you again, Fellas, I missed you.
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  Speaker 4: Guys you started going into that warm seats. They look
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  Speaker 4: at my age when the seat gets warm, it's for
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  Speaker 4: a different reasons. Oh, you don't want to get too
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  Speaker 4: warm when you're older than me. But I missed you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like to make hasten in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: the season. Stuff. Fellas we got to work on this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, our baseball team was was winning, screwing things up.
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  Speaker 2: They were Yeah for our conversation, so I gotta be honest,
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  Speaker 2: we were really enjoying that, but we did miss you
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  Speaker 2: At the same time.
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  Speaker 4: I agree. I'll start focusing a little bit more on
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  Speaker 4: baseball that way next year when we're contending for the pennant. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: maybe I can weigh in. We'll weigh on a few baseball.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, they could use a good umpire.
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  Speaker 3: So like my take on umpires, stay.
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  Speaker 4: In my lane today, I want to stay in my
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  Speaker 4: lane today.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's go through a few calls from
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  Speaker 2: over the weekend. I saw something on Sunday night I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure I've ever seen before, and I think I
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  Speaker 2: want to give Aaron Rodgers all the credit in the
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  Speaker 2: world for this. It looked for sure like he was
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  Speaker 2: going to get sacked, and it looked for sure like
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  Speaker 2: he was going to even fumble the ball. And with
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  Speaker 2: his hand kind of braced by a defender, he had
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  Speaker 2: the presence of mind to see that his running back
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  Speaker 2: was standing right there in front of him, and so
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  Speaker 2: as he's going down, he just does this little flick
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  Speaker 2: motion and throws an incomplete pass right into the ground
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  Speaker 2: and avoids any kind of sack, loss of yard fumble.
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  Speaker 2: I can't disagree with the call. I'm just wondering if
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  Speaker 2: you've ever seen anybody in that moment like have that
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  Speaker 2: much presence of mind to be able to avoid a
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  Speaker 2: costly play.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, I think you just hit the nail
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  Speaker 4: on the head. And you know, I when when you
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  Speaker 4: referee for as long as I did in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Aaron Rodgers was a rookie, and Brett Farb
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  Speaker 4: was in the you know, not the end of his career,
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  Speaker 4: kind of in the middle toward the end at Green
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  Speaker 4: Bay when when I really met him. And so you're
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  Speaker 4: your career is kind of paralleled for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: So you do get this opportunity to be on the
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  Speaker 4: field and have some really memorable moments with some great quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: I had a really great tenure with the Mannings, de Brady's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees, just all of those guys.
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  Speaker 4: So as crazy as the rule is, and it is
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  Speaker 4: the rule, quite honestly, when you are down there with
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  Speaker 4: that level of a player, their level of awareness and
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  Speaker 4: where they are in these fractions of seconds. It amazes you,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't surprise you. And I think that was a
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  Speaker 4: really great example of someone just being in the moment
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  Speaker 4: to that level that as soon as he did it,
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  Speaker 4: you could tell that even though you know, he may
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  Speaker 4: assume that they would rule fumble and with replay, you
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  Speaker 4: kind of do right in those situations, so you let
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  Speaker 4: it play out that as soon as he got up though,
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  Speaker 4: he was really adamant about, Look, I know exactly what
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  Speaker 4: I just did, and this is why I did it,
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  Speaker 4: So go ahead and look at it. It's incomplete and
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  Speaker 4: their running backs right in front of me, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's amazing how well the elite athletes
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  Speaker 4: process things. It's it's their level of awareness in real time,
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  Speaker 4: which is, uh, which is kind of why I think
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  Speaker 4: we love what what we what we love.
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  Speaker 2: And there's no disputing it, right, I mean, they that
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  Speaker 2: was the right call. That's an incomplete pass. The way
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  Speaker 2: that he handled that correct.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we could talk about the rule with the
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  Speaker 4: running back stand and let us back to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Is he really looking for the path right? You know?
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  Speaker 4: But uh, the rules are the rules, and and good
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  Speaker 4: players know when to apply those little nuances to to
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  Speaker 4: their benefit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean there was one in the Jets Bengals
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  Speaker 3: game that I didn't understand. I couldn't wait to ask
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  Speaker 3: you about. It was they it was part of their comeback.
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  Speaker 3: It was the first touchdown in the comeback in the
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter they had there where Brisall ends up running
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  Speaker 3: it in. But there was the two point conversion part
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  Speaker 3: where Tennis scrambles around completes the pass and yet it
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  Speaker 3: looked short to me. They ruled it short and then
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  Speaker 3: I don't even think it was a like a throw
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  Speaker 3: of flag. I think it was just because it was
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  Speaker 3: a possible scoring play, a two point conversion, it was
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  Speaker 3: automatically reviewed, and then they just came back and said, yep,
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  Speaker 3: it's good, even though it didn't look like it was good.
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  Speaker 3: What did you see on that one?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I did weigh in on that one, book,
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  Speaker 4: you know, And that was the little the passover to
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  Speaker 4: the bottom pilot kind of right, and the receiver turns
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  Speaker 4: and then he kind of gets driven back almost immediately
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  Speaker 4: as well. You know, I think these kind of plays
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  Speaker 4: and as an analyst, now you know, that's part of
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  Speaker 4: what I do. And we knew, you know, with replay
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  Speaker 4: and the visuals and in the tech, and we see
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  Speaker 4: things so clearly, and we're framed by framing things. The
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  Speaker 4: real question becomes now, and it's the subjective question, is Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I see the football just enter the receiver's body and
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  Speaker 4: I see the handstart to go around the ball. At
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  Speaker 4: what point has he cured this football? And it's a
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  Speaker 4: nuance now that I think, as we continue to do
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  Speaker 4: what we do with replay and frame by frame kind
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  Speaker 4: of officiating or analysis, you almost have to give them
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  Speaker 4: the benefit of the minute that this football gets to
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  Speaker 4: those hands, we are now saying, okay, there's clear possession
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  Speaker 4: of the football. Okay, where are we right now at
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  Speaker 4: that moment? And ironically, in situations like this one, that
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  Speaker 4: football enters this receiver's hands and within two camera frames
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  Speaker 4: that the front of that football, the little the end
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  Speaker 4: of it is not breaking the plane of the front
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  Speaker 4: of the goal line. But there are those two or
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  Speaker 4: three frames right in the beginning where there's the goal line,
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  Speaker 4: there's the nose of that football, and it appears to
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  Speaker 4: be breaking the plane of that goal line. So I
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  Speaker 4: think that's where we live now, you know. And it's
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  Speaker 4: those moments that we think I think we just have
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  Speaker 4: to embrace the fact we're going to do some officiating
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  Speaker 4: in those ways, right, And that's kind of where I
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  Speaker 4: saw it.
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  Speaker 2: Jane Sterator is with a CBS rules analysts. He's back
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  Speaker 2: with us here. It's been way too long since we
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  Speaker 2: last chatted with our weekly guest. His segment brought to
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  Speaker 3: Don't have to change your pants.
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  Speaker 2: There was a play in the Dallas Denver game that
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  Speaker 2: we were discussing yesterday after the show, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: that any of us thought that there was anything wrong
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  Speaker 2: with the call, and we got to take officials to task.
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  Speaker 2: But even Tony Romo was confused, and I think it
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  Speaker 2: was a game that you were calling. If I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 2: even he was confused about the rule about what is
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  Speaker 2: the natural foot landing. It was a touch touched a
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  Speaker 2: reception by Tolbert from the Dallas Cowboys, and I just
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  Speaker 2: thought we all thought maybe it would be a good
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  Speaker 2: time for Jane to explain how he'll toe relation works
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  Speaker 2: to inbounds out of bounds receiving calls.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that I do recall it, and yeah, I did
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  Speaker 4: commit on the play and and and full transparency. There
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  Speaker 4: are times when we are in a lot of television
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  Speaker 4: and they bring me in, and Jim and Tonio will
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  Speaker 4: bring me in to clear a play up, and then
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  Speaker 4: Tony will create his own kind of casebook question in
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  Speaker 4: real time and and ask me something that you know, like, Jane,
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  Speaker 4: what if this happens? What if the ball bounces this way,
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  Speaker 4: goes this way, and and three people are there, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, I kind of want to tell him out there,
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  Speaker 4: let's not play stuff the ref in.
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  Speaker 5: Front of ten million people, maybe at the end of
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  Speaker 5: the game, but you know, it's a legitimate question. And
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  Speaker 5: I think he enjoys seeing me perspire a little quickly
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  Speaker 5: on certain situations, so I think it's it will continue
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  Speaker 5: to go there. But no, I thought it was a
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  Speaker 5: good question.
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  Speaker 4: I think on this play, if you do looking again,
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  Speaker 4: it was the touchdown was the touchdown because of that backfoot,
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  Speaker 4: And I think it's a good thing for all the
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  Speaker 4: listeners and lovers of the game. And when we start
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  Speaker 4: reviewing these catch no catches, we know all the elements now,
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  Speaker 4: it's almost like it's prescript and we know that it's possession,
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  Speaker 4: two feed a football move a third step. But when
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  Speaker 4: you do see these balls come in, now, it's always
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  Speaker 4: a good practice on that first replay to take a
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  Speaker 4: look at the backfoot right because again, right when that
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  Speaker 4: ball enters the hands, if you look at that backfoot,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times that backfoot is kind of just
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  Speaker 4: lifting off the ground that hasn't completely lifted off of
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  Speaker 4: the ground, so you kind of count the backfoot as
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  Speaker 4: that one, which is what happened in this case. But
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  Speaker 4: as you said, now that we did have three steps
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  Speaker 4: prior to that last one, which was a heel and
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  Speaker 4: then the natural kind of roll of the foot like
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  Speaker 4: we would strike our heel and then roll off to
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  Speaker 4: the toe, and half the toe part of that foot
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  Speaker 4: was out of bounds. So he did present me with
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  Speaker 4: that question, Geane, what happens if the heels inbounds, and
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  Speaker 4: that was the third step right or the third element,
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  Speaker 4: and then the finish of the foot now goes out
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  Speaker 4: of bounds. So another kind of nuance to how they
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  Speaker 4: were reviewing and making these catch no catch decisions. Anytime
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  Speaker 4: that the foot strikes the heel and rolls to the
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  Speaker 4: entire foot again a natural type of a step of
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  Speaker 4: a person, then that entire foot must be inbounds. And
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  Speaker 4: on the back end if you strike the toe and
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  Speaker 4: now you roll into the heel as you're going on
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  Speaker 4: the sideline in the back of the end zone. Toe
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  Speaker 4: taps are fine. We only count toes when we tapped.
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  Speaker 4: But if we strike the toe roll to the heel,
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  Speaker 4: now you brought the entire foot into play. So their
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  Speaker 4: wording of this is natural step either forward or backward.
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  Speaker 4: And so when those do occur, now we've got to
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  Speaker 4: get the Enceladians. You know, it's when it just saw
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  Speaker 4: us giving you a piece of it. So that was
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  Speaker 4: really what we were kind of describing, or the question
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  Speaker 4: he posed to me again completely unscripted, and just to
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  Speaker 4: throw it out there in case, you know, I would
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  Speaker 4: have a black moment and everybody would get a chuckle.
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  Speaker 4: Out of that.
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  Speaker 2: He's problematic, isn't he that?
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  Speaker 3: Romo?
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  Speaker 2: He's an issue, an issue for him.
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  Speaker 4: He's great. You know when you're when you're in your
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  Speaker 4: forties and you could still be orderly like like he
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  Speaker 4: was when he was on the field in his place.
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  Speaker 4: It's a wonderful feeling. So though I love every minute
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  Speaker 4: of it. No, I like Romo too.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was funny because he was just like what,
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  Speaker 3: I guess it counts because his heel hit his heel
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  Speaker 3: hit first, and then I was sitting there looking at like, No,
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  Speaker 3: I think they counted it because that that that foot
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  Speaker 3: was already down right when.
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  Speaker 2: He caught the ball.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, I thought it was great, and I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was great where you were like, No, And to
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  Speaker 3: answer your question, basically, you're wrong, Romo.
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  Speaker 4: Nice.
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  Speaker 3: Try try to make me sweat.
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  Speaker 4: We try to do that politely a little too, buddy, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like and just to throw it under this town real quick. No,
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  Speaker 4: that wasn't right either. Great question. Yeah, yeah, let's go
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  Speaker 4: to question four. Now, can we come up with a
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  Speaker 4: new women? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Good, try a little, buddy.
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  Speaker 4: What makes I think that's what makes them very fresh,
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's what makes that broadcast really good
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  Speaker 4: is you know, Tony can Tony can take you right
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  Speaker 4: from a game listening to think that he's sitting as
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  Speaker 4: the fourth person in your living room and and we're just,
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  Speaker 4: you know, shooting the breeze and bringing up crazy things
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  Speaker 4: right in the middle of something. And and I think
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  Speaker 4: that's good television. At least I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, I got I got one like
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  Speaker 3: that was it was an offensive past interference in the
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  Speaker 3: Giants gaming Darius Slayton that basically had a touchdown and
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  Speaker 3: they called it back for offensive pass interference. And yet
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  Speaker 3: it does feel like you watch every week and that
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  Speaker 3: hand fighting that's going on, and understandably so to some degree,
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  Speaker 3: I think you guys give the dB a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of license to have his hand on the guy so
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  Speaker 3: that he can be looking for the ball and and
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  Speaker 3: I still know where he is. But then there's a
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  Speaker 3: line where tugging poland starts happening, and this was one
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  Speaker 3: where it looked like the defender was kind of holding
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  Speaker 3: his arm down and then he did a little bit of.
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  Speaker 2: A push off.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how do you decipher how much because to
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  Speaker 3: some degree it's not well, you don't touch him, you
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  Speaker 3: keep your hands to yourself or I'm gonna throw my flag.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, there's somewhere where it's like,
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  Speaker 3: well that's just too much, So how the heck do
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  Speaker 3: you guys do that?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Brian Dable did not agree with the call.
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  Speaker 4: No, he was not it. And you know what, I
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  Speaker 4: could defend him on it, you know. And I think
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  Speaker 4: what you mentioned, Bucky, what you're really squaring up is
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  Speaker 4: is really what you try to do at this level,
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  Speaker 4: and that is the art of this. Right. We can
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  Speaker 4: all look at these plays and go, yep, there's a
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  Speaker 4: little grass there. It's defensive holding by the book, I
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  Speaker 4: get it. There's a little hand fighting and oh he
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  Speaker 4: restricts his arm there for three or four ticks, and
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  Speaker 4: that's a file at this level and truth where they
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  Speaker 4: get all levels major college football, you know, all the
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  Speaker 4: way up the chain. The art of officiating is to
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  Speaker 4: allow players to play physicality and some hand fighting and
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  Speaker 4: some minimal restriction in a lot of elements, whether it's holding,
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  Speaker 4: whether it isn't holding, whether it's past interference whether it isn't.
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  Speaker 4: I think you've got to allow athletes to be athletes, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean yes, is there's going to be some minor restriction,
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  Speaker 4: a little displacement, Sure, there is, There's a lot going
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  Speaker 4: on there. We've got to be able as a collective
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  Speaker 4: staff and officials have to be able to hone there's
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  Speaker 4: skill to see. Yeah, there's something there, a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: This is not big enough to interject myself in the game.
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  Speaker 4: That's when I would go into the pregame speeches of look,
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  Speaker 4: let's fish for whales, Let's not fish for minnows. We
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  Speaker 4: don't want to get in there and get to the
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  Speaker 4: technical space of once I call that calls, now, what
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  Speaker 4: do I have to do with every one of these
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  Speaker 4: other players for the rest of the day in this game?
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  Speaker 4: And really, as a lead looks at it. Now, we've
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  Speaker 4: got to kind of be held to that collectively around
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  Speaker 4: the entire weekend. Those types of place to me, you
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  Speaker 4: lit that athlete or athletes, that's a play, that's a
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  Speaker 4: man's game, Go get the ball. There's not a lot
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  Speaker 4: of big restriction, not a lot of big displacement. You
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  Speaker 4: really weren't at a major disadvantage. You've got to play
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  Speaker 4: football at some point. That's the art of this business.
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  Speaker 4: And sometimes we react to think a little too quickly,
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  Speaker 4: and when that flag is out now and then again
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  Speaker 4: it really in my position, it's a sweating moment, right
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  Speaker 4: because now you're looking at this play, let's bring in
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  Speaker 4: the analysts. What do you think by the book? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there's probably something there. Truthfully, I don't want to see
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  Speaker 4: the flag on the ground on those plays, right, You
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  Speaker 4: want to let those things take place. That's what you
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  Speaker 4: hope officials are evolving into as we get into this
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  Speaker 4: part of the season as well. Now, right, we've been
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  Speaker 4: in two months of this. Let athletes be athletes get
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  Speaker 4: the big stuff. When they separate big when they restrict
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  Speaker 4: in a impactful way, call it other things, let it alone,
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  Speaker 4: let them go get it a little bit. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it's better for the game. I think it's better
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  Speaker 4: for everybody if we do do that. But I was
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  Speaker 4: with Dable on the play. I thought it was a
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: little tiki taki regardless of the outcomes, right, I mean, yeah, unfortunately,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: now he's a sixty five year a touchdown. We're bring
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: it back. But listen, anytime you interject yourself in a game,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: if it's just a ten yard penalty and now it's
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: second and twenty two instead of second and twelve. The
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: game changed from that point for the rest of the game,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: So you really have to hone yourself. And I think
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: we need to make the files a little bigger in
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: a lot of ways.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know. I felt like we
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: went light on officials this week and your return to
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: our show. Maybe it was just our you know, welcome
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: back gift to you. Maybe it's because we missed you
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: so much, or maybe the officials are okay at their jobs.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I hate to confess that, Gene.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: You know, you always look, there's sixteen seventeen games a week,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: and we're going to have some things happen. Yes, you
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: just don't really want to be talking about them on Whydday,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: you know. That was always my line, like, and we're
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: still talking about this Sunday game on Wednesday. And we
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: didn't have a good week fellas you know. But no,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't disagree. I think collectively we're not
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: in a you know, terrible place. But there's always work
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: to do, right, You always have to get better. And
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: a couple of games this week head scratchers and things
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: that you don't want to have happened. Uh, And you
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: hope that those move forward and everybody learns from them.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, happy Halloween to you. I've gone as
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you for the last couple of weeks, maybe not weeks,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: last couple of years. Maybe I go as jim Nantz
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: this week this year.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I like it. Ye just find myself Hello friends, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: exactly the best. Hello friend. Get the rhythm going right,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it like a University of Houston kerchief
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: or something like that. There you go, I got it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I got it all right, Jane, Thank you very much.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Great to hear from you again, and we'll do it
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: again next week.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Thanks, guys, have a great week, all right.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: The amazing Gene Sterotor joining us right here on Chuck
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: and Back and again his segment brought to you by
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: bmw F Seattle. Just feels good to have Gene back.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: In our lives.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: It feels great. I mean, it was understandable why, I mean,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: the manners and we couldn't probably dice up stuff the
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: way that we typically do with him at that point
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: in time. But that's over and so now we're into it,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: and now we got Gene back in our life.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: We're back to our regularly scheduled program.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I would like you to start dressing in your gene
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: costume every every Tuesday.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I probably do a better nance. Jeane's just
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you know too, you know, too dark and handsome.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe some telean her face. All right,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Everett Fitzi is gonna join us next Sports Radio ninety
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: three point three kJ R f M. All right, Chuck Bow,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Bucky Jacobs, and Ashley Bryan with you every week we
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: get a chance to chat with the voice. I actually
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: got to see him in the station last week. Yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: he came in to say hello to Ashley and I.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: He was like, Bucky's not there.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I'll be right in.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Oh that's why he came in.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he brought like three course breakfast.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Was delicious.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: That's all because I wasn't here.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: Yes, he was like, it's time for a celebration.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, it hurts my feelings a little bit, but I'll
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: say this as a team player. I will do that
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: again this Thursday and Friday. For you guys. If you
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: get to see Everett and he comes with food, I'll
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: not come into work for days.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: You're welcome right.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: There, Everett fits you joins us right here. On Chuck
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and back. Good morning, sir.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I specifically called ahead to make sure that you aren't
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: going to be there.
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: Bucket, all right, I said, I said, hey, Chuck, He's like,
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: oh here, And then it was the It was like
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: Forrest Gump running down the driveway.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: Remember that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was me coming to the station once I
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: found out that you weren't going.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: To be Well, that's good for good to find out
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: that you're an outlier and everybody else except for you
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: from Detroit is nice.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Even even whenever it's trying to be mean.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: He's just so nice.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I can't do it so bad at being bad. Well,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. This team's been really good. It's
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: last couple of games. Put in perspective for us, what
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: kind of a back to back win?
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: This is?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: To win your last game on the road against the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: team as good as the Jets, and then come home
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and just keep it going against the team as good
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: as the Oilers.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Just how nice of a back to back go win?
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Is that?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: For Lane Lambert and the Kraken.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there was huge.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: I think the Winnipeg game, I mean that was your
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: really first statement game of the season. Obviously we're only
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: going in the game eight at the time, but I mean,
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: that was a win that you had to have. You
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: were coming off of an effort in Washington last Tuesday
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: that Lane wasn't happy with, and he wasn't shy about
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: letting people know that he wasn't happy. It wasn't good enough.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: I remember even asking him on our pregame one on
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: ones and I said, hey, it is the fact that
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: you were in the second game of back to back
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: and all the fatigue.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And the travel. Does that help?
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: But I think he gave me probably the best sound
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: bite of my five years. Here he goes, I don't care.
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: Your job is to win games in the NHL. So
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: it was very refreshing to hear that. And then you
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: come to Winnipeg against a team that coming into the
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: game had lost eleven times on home ice in the
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: last year they were thirty seven and four. They had
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: allowed two or fewer goals in twenty one of their
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: previous forty home games. So I mean, this was a
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: team that is nearly unbeatable at home, and you go
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: in there and you put together a defensive clinic. Joey
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: Decord was perfect, literally perfect in that game, and then
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: you come back home for the first time in two
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: weeks against an Edmonton team that is, they get off
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: to some slow starts, but this is about the time
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: when they start to find their stride during the season
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: around games eight, nine, ten to eleven, and you grind
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: them down. You hold Conor McDavid off the score sheet
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: for just the second time this season. You know, I
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: think two very different wins, two very different games, very
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: different efforts, but the same results that now under Lane
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: Lambert you're expecting to get. I mean that type of
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: game against Edmunds that I think in particular, those are
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: games and wins that you expect to get now because
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: of the.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Style of play.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Fitzia, I mean I've in a little bit for me.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm old school. I like kind of the
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: hard nosed coach, the guy that doesn't really pull any
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: punches and will call you out and hold you accountable.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: It seems to me that hockey might be the last
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: sport that conforms to the softness that is kind of
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: kind of going into a lot of other sports. The
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: more players coach type of a thing. Is that something
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: is that true that hockey's has more players that are
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: receptive to that type of coaching, And if so, do
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: you think that the Kraken is built for that?
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: I think so, And I think now with I mean,
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: you look at the journey of a hockey player, right,
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: very similar to baseball. When you're drafted out of juniors.
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: You're not going straight to the NHL unless you are
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: one of one generational talent.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: How many baseball players have come out of high school
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: drafted or get drafted out of college and come right
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: to the league. It's feeling far between. You have to
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: go through minors. There's an extensive youth hockey, junior hockey
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: circuit that kind of beats a little bit of that
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: out of you. And it is very much the hard working,
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: the playing for the name on the front rather than
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: the name on the back type of mentality.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: And I think for this team, where you have a
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: lot of really good players, you don't have that big superstar,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: you don't have the mc damon, you don't have the McKinnon,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: and this team understands that. But what this team does
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: have is a lot of guys who can work hard.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: They have a lot of guys who are capable of
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: stepping up and shipping in wherever ass and I think
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: the way that you have to play is a depth
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: heavy style of game. You need goals from all up
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: and down the lineup. You need a good defensive structure.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: When you're not a team that's gonna score three hundred
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: goals in a season, you're gonna have to limit the opposition.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: You're gonna have to clamp down defensively. If you're not
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: good at offense, you better be good at defense. And
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I think this is a team that's gonna be able
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: to find offense, but their calling card is going to
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: be a very disciplined, heavy defensive structure. I've been saying
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: it all year long. This is a three to one
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: hockey team. This is a three to two hockey team,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: and they're going to have to be comfortable winning those
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: close one goal games. And I'll tell you if the
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Winnipeg game, the Cracking were up won nothing until they
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: got two empty net goals of the third period.
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: But not once during that third period I looked over
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: at Al and not once was I like, man, we're
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: playing with fire here. This game is in trouble because
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: of the way Joey was playing, because of how effective
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: the Seattle Kraken were at shutting down their top players.
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: I didn't feel like that one nothing lead was in jeopardy.
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: They pulled the goalie, they get two empty netters, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: then they they're on to win.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Jordan Ebery thirty five years old. I don't think people
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: realize what he had to come back from last year
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: injury wise. I mean, it was terrible. And so is
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: he just, you know, so happy to be on the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: ice that he leads the team and goals and points.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: So or is Jordan Everley have a new lease on
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: life now that he's one hundred percent healthy?
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: You know what? I think it may be a bit
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: of column A and a bit of column B. I mean,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: he missed forty games last season with an injury that
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: was so rare. If I recall, I think he's probably
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: the only player, or maybe one of two players to
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: ever come back from that type of injury because of
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: how rare it was. So he's out for forty games,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: he scores fifteen points, and I think it's like five
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: goals of ten assists in his last twenty games last year.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Twenty five games last year when he came back from injury,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: and I think he's out to prove that he still
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: has a lot in the tank and he wants to
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: win here in Seattle. He has never been shy about
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: his desire to stay and win here in Seattle. He
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: wants to have success here, So you know he is
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: he's out to prove that, Hey, I still have it
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: in the tank. But I think you're right. This guy
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: just loves playing hockey. He loves leading this team, he
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: loves being on the ice. You know, it sounds very cliche,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: and I understand that, but you know he will do
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: whatever it takes to help this team win hockey games.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: And you're seeing it on the ice and in the
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: locker room so far this season.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: All right, so young Canadians tonight they are off to
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: a red hot start. So this is in the last
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: few years you kind of like playing Montreal. Is that
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: not the case anymore?
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, they are a.
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: Team as good as any I think with a young
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: cores I look at, you know, like a San Jose
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: Sharks team who probably in about five years they're going
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: to be the best team in the league, but they're
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: going through some growing pains right now. The Montreal Canadians
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: are where those type of teams aspire to be. They
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: have their core locked up seven or eight guys under
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: the age of twenty five years old. They have them
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: locked up until at least twenty thirty three, so they're
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: going to be really good for a very long time.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: I think their goaltending is probably the one area of concern,
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: but they're quote unquote backup. Jacob Dobeesh has got five
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: to zero record this season. So they're young, they're talented,
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: they skate well. They just keep coming in waves and
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: the krack And saw a little bit of that in
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: Montreal a couple of weeks ago in their home opener,
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: actually two weeks to the day actually the crack And
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: were in Montreal.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: They had a chance to win that game, but.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: Cole Kawfield and Nick Suzuki, and they're big, heavy hitters.
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: Those are the ones that can step up when called upon.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: So it's gonna need to be another game like we
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: saw in the Edmonton game. It's gonna be a grinding
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: game that this probably is not gonna be another six'
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: five far or five to four overtime game like we
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: saw In. MONTREAL i Think seattle's learned some lessons since.
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: Then they've Been they've been tested a little bit more since,
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: then And i've always felt that it's easier to be
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: the team that lost coming back in the rematch as
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: opposed to the team that. Won if you, won you're
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: coming in here probably, thinking all, right, guys if it ain't,
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: broke don't fix.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: It let's you, know rinse and. Repeat but if you're
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: the team that, lost you're the one who has to
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: make the. Adjustments you know what went. Wrong SO i
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: think For, SEATTLE i think it favors them, tonight but
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: it needs to be another strong, discipline defensive effort because
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: they have a lot of talent and a lot of
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: speed that can beat you if you aren't.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Careful he's great at what he. Does he gives great,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: hugs and even when he's, mean he's. Nice it's the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: human being hat.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Trick everett fits, you joining us right here On chuck And.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: Buck thank, you, sir enjoy, Tonight, BUCKY i love, YOU
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: i miss, You, Chuck, Ashley i'll talk to you guys,
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: later all.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Right the voice evert fits, you joining us right here
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: On chuck And buck in the, mornings and of course
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: they'll drop the puck tonight at. Home Climate pledgerina seven
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Thirty kraken And Montreal canadians pregame With Mike. Benton so
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: a great night of hockey here on This. Tuesday coming
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: up next the ABC's Of Them Sports radio ninety three
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: point THREE, Kjrfm we're going to get through the alphabet
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: one last time with The mariners and the daily segment
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: known as THE Ab. Season we're at the end of.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: It WE'RE WX wx here today and so let's dive
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: right in w is For World. Series as great of
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: a game as that was last, night certainly you couldn't
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: be distracted here In seattle by the thought of this
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: could have been our First this could have been the
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: night where we hosted our first Ever World series.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Game could have been last.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Night that would have been. Nice it would have Been
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Willy Willy.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Nice, yeah For Willy Willy.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Yes and, unfortunately, yeah it didn't work out that. WAY i,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: MEAN i to be, honest it's the there's all kind
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: of different, reasons and yet none of, them none of
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: them make me feel. GOOD i, MEAN i Feel i've
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: already found a silver lining And i'm already optimistic about the.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: FUTURE i think we both have BEEN i Know ashley's
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: right there with, us probably more so than a lot
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: of people about where we're at and what it looks.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Like but now it's this waiting for the. Offseason see
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: what they do to really make, it you, know kind
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: of go out there and push this thing over the
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: top and continue on the path that you showed you're
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: willing to go to at the trade deadline and then
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty two games to figure out where
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: we stack up amongst everybody, else and and you know
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: all of the stuff that goes into, it and so, it's,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: yeah it's still.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Stakings is that a long playoff run rarely has nail
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: biting situation?
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: Right, yeah, yeah exactly they.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Were once you get to the, playoffs you just put
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: your feet. Up, yeah it's just.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Total was anybody else were you thinking about that yesterday?
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Game game? Seven the drama of yesterday's, GAME i was
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: thinking to, myself, LIKE i don't know HOW i would
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: have been handling this in A game three of The
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: World series against The vaunted.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: When it was Against.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Houston, yeah you would have handled a post game right
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: into our. Show, yeah you would have handled.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: It oh, Yeah, see those are the reasons.
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: THAT i didn't don't watch is because things LIKE i
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: don't want to watch it thinking.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: It should have been, us or this could have been,
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: us or this should be our. OPPORTUNITY i just.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Myself there's an element of. That but it's also The World.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Series are you not going to watch The Super bowl
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: if The seahawks don't get? There it's The World series.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And you do have no not at.
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  Speaker 2: All it's the pinnacle of the two of the sports
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  Speaker 2: that we.
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  Speaker 9: Watched, yeah but we've never Had i've never never come
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  Speaker 9: this close and then had that. Heartbreak, oh you've never.
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  Speaker 2: Come that close to winning A Super bowl and that
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  Speaker 2: was In Super.
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  Speaker 9: Bowl But i'm, saying but we've never come as a
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  Speaker 9: baseball team this close and then had that heartbreak on the.
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  Speaker 6: Game but that would have gotten us to that. Situation
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  Speaker 6: like that's.
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  Speaker 9: Probably How San francisco felt after we played them in
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  Speaker 9: THE Nfc. CHAMPIONSHIP i don't think they were lining up
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  Speaker 9: to watch The Super.
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  Speaker 4: BOWL i think they.
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  Speaker 3: DID i think they cheered very strongly again Against, yes
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  Speaker 3: against The.
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  Speaker 2: SEAHAWKS x is for Extravagant to your, Point bucky about
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  Speaker 2: like the off season. Spending if you are to Believe
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  Speaker 2: Ryan divish and he's usually got his finger on the
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: pulse of. Things there's not going to be extravagant spending
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: in the. Offseason as a matter of, fact he kind
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: of gave a grim out, look like That Josh naylor
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  Speaker 2: is the, priority but that they have limits With Josh.
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  Speaker 2: Naylor he suggested in his most recent, article the thing
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: that's probably most likely is Just Orgete. Polonco So, Naylor
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  Speaker 2: Sworerez polonco all hitting free agency this. Offseason i'm entertaining
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  Speaker 2: keeping two of the three if you're only going to keep.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: ONE i wanted to Be. NAYLOR i think most people
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  Speaker 2: want it to Be. Naylor but the way this team,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: spends the way they, produce they you, know approach their off,
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  Speaker 2: seasons and the way that they approach building a roster
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  Speaker 2: with finances in, mind he led us to believe in
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: his most recent article that the thing that seems most
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: likely is Just. POLANCO i don't like.
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  Speaker 3: That, WELL i don't like it, either BECAUSE i think
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: that you can talk about like what's, important and then
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: you weigh that against what you're willing to expand your
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  Speaker 3: budget by AND i and to, me it's like the
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: importance Of Josh, naylor like versus the importance Of Gino.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: SWAREZ i Like Geno. SUAREZ i wouldn't even mind Having geno,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: back but you don't need it because you do have
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: somebody that can Play Gold glove caliber third base and
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: might just be that role player that puts the ball
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: in play at the bottom of the, lineup which was
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: one of the many reasons that we find ourselves watching
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  Speaker 3: the WORDS herea are not participating in. It and YET i,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: think you, know the more research you look, AT i,
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  Speaker 3: mean if you look at spow, TRACK i, mean there's
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: whatever it is they're willing To if they're saying that
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  Speaker 3: where we left off this year payroll, wise that's where
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: we're going to, start and then we will go a
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: little bit about.
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  Speaker 4: IT i like.
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  Speaker 2: That that means we can should be able to afford
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: two of the three if that's. True SO i don't
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: know why the suggestion that we're That polanco's the most likely.
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  Speaker 2: Scenario if you're they told us to our to the
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: media and the media session that we're going to start
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: with the payroll we ended, with that gives you plenty
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: of money to be able to afford two of the. Three,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: well it's just but then you have to think about
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: because they don't know right now the estimations of all
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the arbitration. Numbers randy Rose arena is going to get a,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Raise Logan gilbert's going to get a, Raise George kirby's
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: going to get a. Raised guys Like Trent thornton are
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: getting RAISEST i, Mean Bryce, Miller Luke, Raley Gabe, spire
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: all of them are arbitration. Eligible and now those are
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: all those are going from make it eight fifty last
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: year to make in one point two. Million so they're
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: not a gigantic chunk of. Change and it's not enough
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: to overtake losing The Mitch garver money that you're not
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: going to bring him back for twelve.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Million Or Mitch. Hanniger it doesn't add up to that,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: amount but it does take away from that amount to
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: a significant. AMOUNT i, mean and yet there's STILL i
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: think there's a way where you can do. IT i
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: just don't know for. Sure If naylor's going to go
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: out there and test the, market he might be one
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: where if that's the only guy you can, get that
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: might be all of what they're willing to spend.
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