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The Kenny Report | 18 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me tonight, exposing the big lie at
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  Speaker 2: the heart of Australian national politics. The absolute garbage were
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  Speaker 2: being fed about becoming a renewable energy superpower. US President
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden has COVID he's gone back to the basement.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll explain.
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  Speaker 2: Again why I reckon he simply cannot run for reelection,
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  Speaker 2: even though most media.
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  Speaker 3: Run protection for him.
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  Speaker 2: Hannis Leek under fire from a Green senator over one
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  Speaker 2: of his ripping cartoons.
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  Speaker 3: He'll join us.
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  Speaker 2: I'll cross to the Republican convention in Milwaukee as jd.
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  Speaker 3: Vance has his big day.
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  Speaker 2: Alexander Downer joins me live, and so did Tim Blair
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  Speaker 2: and Mark Nicholson and Keith Pitt.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get cracking the big lie.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest lie of our national political debate is the
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  Speaker 2: renewable energy transition.
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  Speaker 3: Every Day, the Federal Labor Party.
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  Speaker 2: The Greens, some of the left liberals like Matt Kean,
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  Speaker 2: most of the media, and a range of activists and academics.
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  Speaker 2: Every day they tell you that Australia can run itself
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  Speaker 2: in a way that not one other modern industrialized economy
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  Speaker 2: ever has and in a way that not a single
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  Speaker 2: other modern country is even trying to do. That is
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  Speaker 2: run our power grid on renewable energy and storage alone.
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  Speaker 2: These people keep telling you this will deliver reliable power,
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  Speaker 2: and it can't. And they say it will deliver cheaper power,
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  Speaker 2: and it isn't and it won't. They tell us it's
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  Speaker 2: the most economically viable model, and it simply is not.
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  Speaker 2: It requires hundreds of billions of dollars of investment in
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  Speaker 2: generation and transmission infrastructure, and the duplication of all generation
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  Speaker 2: with storage and backup generation. Most of these same people
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  Speaker 2: add climate lies to their story. They tell us the
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  Speaker 2: weather is getting worse, more fires, more floods, more droughts,
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  Speaker 2: when this is simply not true either. You only have
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  Speaker 2: to look at the weather records to see that. And
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  Speaker 2: they pretend that what we do will improve the climate.
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  Speaker 2: This also is utter nonsense, because whatever we're doing with
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  Speaker 2: our tiny share of global emissions, those global emissions continue
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  Speaker 2: to grow. So the public is being fed a load
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  Speaker 2: of nonsense. And the overarching lie is the ridiculous pretense
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  Speaker 2: that this renewable energy superpower nonsense can actually work. They
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  Speaker 2: talk a big game, They spend countless billions of our dollars.
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  Speaker 2: But it's all on a monumentally expensive and delusional experiment.
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  Speaker 2: This is a story of endless grand announcements.
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  Speaker 3: Remember Some Cable.
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  Speaker 2: This was going to be a thirty five billion dollar
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  Speaker 2: project taking solar energy from the deserts of the Northern
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  Speaker 2: Territory all the way through underwater cables to Singapore, with.
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  Speaker 4: Ample room for future growth, a host of developing nations
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  Speaker 4: on its doorstep, and demand for clear energy only set
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  Speaker 4: to rise the sun Cable projects. That's austrange you up
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  Speaker 4: to transition from the world's largest exporter of coal to
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  Speaker 4: agree energy exporting superpower.
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  Speaker 2: Always the ridiculous renewable energy superpower line. Well, Some Cable
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  Speaker 2: went into voluntary administration early last year, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: when billionaire Twiggy Forest pulled out, and now it's been
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  Speaker 2: refloated by tech billionaire Mike cannon Brooks and the project
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  Speaker 2: is going to try to send some electricity to Darwin
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  Speaker 2: for starters.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see if they ever make Singapore.
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  Speaker 2: Now, speaking of Twiggy Forests, he's been talking big on
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  Speaker 2: climate action for a long while, getting government subsidies for
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  Speaker 2: various projects and lots of praise from the leftist media
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  Speaker 2: as he talked a big game on so called green hydrogen.
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  Speaker 5: Today at the National Press Club. Businessman and philanthropist Andrew
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  Speaker 5: Twiggy Forest, the mining magnates and chair of for To
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  Speaker 5: Skew Metals Group, is now a firm advocates of green
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  Speaker 5: hydrogen and stronger action non climate change. Andrew Forest with
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  Speaker 5: today's National Press Club.
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  Speaker 6: Address, Ladies and gentlemen, green hydrogen is the real solution,
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  Speaker 6: not the fake hydroen, not blue or gray, the real
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  Speaker 6: stuff green.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This is the sort of stuff the media and the
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  Speaker 2: left love to hear, and the alban easy labor government
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  Speaker 2: was fully on board too.
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  Speaker 3: With retoric and tax dollars.
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  Speaker 7: We see investors queuing up to back solar and wind
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  Speaker 7: and the opportunities that are there in green hydrogen.
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  Speaker 8: These opportunities are enormous. Our investment in green hydrogen, for example,
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  Speaker 8: is designed to under fifty billion dollars worth of private
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  Speaker 8: sector investment.
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  Speaker 7: We had the space to have large scale solar and
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  Speaker 7: renewable energy to produce green hydrogen, which then can be
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  Speaker 7: used to produce green metals, green aluminium, green steel.
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  Speaker 9: This budget invests in our renewable energy superpower ambitions, including
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  Speaker 9: thirteen point seven billion dollars in production tax incentives for
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  Speaker 9: green hydrogen.
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  Speaker 2: Green superpower buncom. Yeah, Labour's been promising billions of dollars
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  Speaker 2: of subsidies for hydrogen even though this is unproven technology.
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  Speaker 2: This is a massive gamble and it's risky and even
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  Speaker 2: reckless to base our future energy needs on punts like this.
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  Speaker 2: But nothing will stop the green energy zealots. So Twiggy Forest,
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  Speaker 2: in cahoots with former Liberal Prime Minister Malcolm term will
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  Speaker 2: know Less, plowed on with some ambitious green hydrogen plans.
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  Speaker 6: So I decided to be the first mover on the
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  Speaker 6: table a fifteen million ton target. I am sure that
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  Speaker 6: the materials and the will and the energy and the
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  Speaker 6: workforce is there to make it happen.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's not so sure anymore.
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  Speaker 2: For ust company Fortesque announced yesterday that its green hydrogen
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  Speaker 2: goals will.
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  Speaker 3: Not be met.
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  Speaker 2: The company is cutting seven hundred jobs and admitting it
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  Speaker 2: cannot get anywhere near its green hydrogen ambitions. Fordes Kew
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  Speaker 2: is completely shaking up its and scaling back its energy plans.
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  Speaker 2: It's admitting failure and it's scrapping its green hydrogen goals.
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  Speaker 2: And what this means, of course, is that the Albanesi
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  Speaker 2: Labor government's hydrogen goals will not be met either.
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  Speaker 3: Its clean energy.
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  Speaker 2: Targets are going to fall further behind, and the ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: lies we're being told daily about how this country is
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  Speaker 2: going to power itself on renewables have become a renewable
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  Speaker 2: energy superpower will All this nonsense is being exposed, but
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister remains a reliable energy denier.
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  Speaker 7: We want to make sure that we deliver the clean
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  Speaker 7: energy that Australia needs and that when coal fire power
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  Speaker 7: stations close as they've announced their closure, there isn't a
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  Speaker 7: gap in the energy security that Australia needs.
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  Speaker 3: That's why we.
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  Speaker 7: Need a real plan that's fully costed, that's being rolled
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  Speaker 7: out with the certainty being provided for investment.
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  Speaker 3: Well all evidence to the contrary.
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  Speaker 2: They say one thing, but we experience the opposite.
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  Speaker 3: None of them can say they weren't warned.
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  Speaker 2: Our national energy self harm is increasingly hitting home.
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  Speaker 3: As I've said all along.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be the undoing of this government's plenty happening in
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  Speaker 2: the US selection contest again. Donald Trump's vice presidential running
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  Speaker 2: mate JD Vance formally accepted his nomination today and delivered
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  Speaker 2: a major speech, and I'll have lots more on that
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  Speaker 2: later in the program. But I want to switch the
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  Speaker 2: focus back to Joe Biden because the debate once more
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  Speaker 2: is all about the sitting president and how he can
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  Speaker 2: possibly run for reelection. The dramatic news today is that
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  Speaker 2: Biden has tested positive for COVID, so he canceled an
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  Speaker 2: event in Las Vegas and flew home to his beach
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  Speaker 2: house to rest and isolate. It's already looking like the
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  Speaker 2: basement strategy from the last election campaign.
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  Speaker 3: But just look at him.
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  Speaker 2: On his way as he returned to Air Force one.
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  Speaker 2: This is quite painful to watch, isn't it? So tentative?
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  Speaker 2: So careful? Can he get up the stairs without falling
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  Speaker 2: up them? This, you know, is the leader of the
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  Speaker 2: free world. Little wonder that a senior Democrat, the Californian
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  Speaker 2: politician and Senate candidate Adam Schiff, has publicly called for
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  Speaker 2: Biden to pull out of the presidential race now, and
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  Speaker 2: reports today also revealed that Senate leader Chuck Schumer met
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  Speaker 2: privately with Biden over the weekend, urging him to rescind
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  Speaker 2: the nomination and not seek another term. Incredibly, though many
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  Speaker 2: people still need convincing that left media, most of the
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  Speaker 2: media for that matter, still runs protection for Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: Look at this coverage arguing that if Biden shrugs off COVID,
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  Speaker 2: it'll be comparable to Donald Trump surviving the assassination attempt.
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  Speaker 10: His survival of that and bouncing right back and going
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  Speaker 10: right to his convention is being conveyed in the media
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  Speaker 10: world as a sinus stream. Current president of the United
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  Speaker 10: States is eighty one years old and has COVID. Should
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  Speaker 10: he be fine in a couple of days? Doesn't that
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  Speaker 10: convey exactly the same thing that he's strong enough older
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  Speaker 10: than Trump to have gotten something that used to really
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  Speaker 10: be fetal to people his age. So if he does
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  Speaker 10: fine out of it and comes back and is able
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  Speaker 10: to do rallies, isn't that exactly the same?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's not.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think they try just a little too hard?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if Biden remembers what day it is, should
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  Speaker 2: we compare that to the Gettysburg address. One point I
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  Speaker 2: want to make strongly here is that all this has
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  Speaker 2: been hiding in plain sight, as you know.
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  Speaker 3: Not for weeks, not for months, but for years. It
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  Speaker 3: was back in Biden's first.
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  Speaker 2: Year in the job when I started saying there was
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  Speaker 2: no way he could seek a second term, and I
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  Speaker 2: pointed out how most of the media back then was hiding, censoring,
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  Speaker 2: or making excuses for him.
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  Speaker 3: Is diminished mental capacity?
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  Speaker 11: Well, look, I mean he has made clear that the
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  Speaker 11: answer is.
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  Speaker 2: I said before the election that the Biden campaign had
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  Speaker 2: all the hallmarks of a weekend at Bernie's effort.
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  Speaker 3: Now he leads the free world. It's a worry for
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  Speaker 3: the US, for you and me.
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  Speaker 11: So the best way to get something done if you
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  Speaker 11: holds near and dear to you that you.
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  Speaker 1: Like to be able to.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, most of the media in the US and around
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the world dares not mention, scrutinize, or
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  Speaker 2: discuss the wobbly and uncertain world of the US president's
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  Speaker 2: mental acuity.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't claim to have any great special insight into this.
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  Speaker 2: It's just been obvious to anybody watching over the past
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  Speaker 2: US four years, but most observers, especially in the media,
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  Speaker 2: have chosen to ignore it or even downplay it.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I've been saying this for years.
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  Speaker 2: But obviously, if Biden runs again, I mean, I'll win
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  Speaker 2: the Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Low that's how likely it is.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, the leader of the free world is
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  Speaker 3: not of clear or sharp mind. He's not up to
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  Speaker 3: the task.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be lucky to finish his first term without handing
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  Speaker 2: over to Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 3: That alone running again, surely.
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  Speaker 2: Yet the ridiculous state of affairs is that the President
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  Speaker 2: and his team continue to insist that he'll run for
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  Speaker 2: a second term.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly he won't. Clearly he can't.
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  Speaker 2: Look it's still my view, and honestly, just when you
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  Speaker 2: look back at that and think about how much evidence
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  Speaker 2: there has been for so many years, which is wontter,
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  Speaker 2: how on earth they could have left this not dealt
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  Speaker 2: with to this point in time.
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  Speaker 3: Why haven't they dealt with it before? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Now, sure, Biden and the Democrats are culpable for not
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  Speaker 2: accepting reality organizing an orderly handover, But the media have
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  Speaker 2: been disgraceful in the way that I've pretended reality away.
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  Speaker 2: Biden is now saying that he could stand aside if
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  Speaker 2: medical advice recommended it, but he really wants to go
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  Speaker 2: on if.
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  Speaker 11: I had some medical condition that emerged, if somebody, if
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  Speaker 11: the doctors came to me and said you got this problem,
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  Speaker 11: that problem, But I made a serious mistake in the
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  Speaker 11: whole debate. And look, when I originally ran, you may
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  Speaker 11: remember it. I said I was going to be a
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  Speaker 11: transitional candidate, and I thought that I'd be able to
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  Speaker 11: move from this just pass it on to someone else.
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  Speaker 11: But I didn't anticipate things getting so so so divided.
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  Speaker 11: And quite frankly, I think the only thing age brings
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  Speaker 11: a little bit of wisdom, And I think I've demonstrated
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  Speaker 11: that I know how to get things done for the
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  Speaker 11: country in spite of the fact that to we couldn't
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  Speaker 11: get it done. But there's more to do, and I'm
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  Speaker 11: reluctant to walk away from that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, say, what, well, he's doing everyone a favor.
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  Speaker 2: He's doing America a favor by deciding to stick around.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think getting the necessary medical advice urging Biden
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  Speaker 2: to stand aside from reelection will be very difficult at all.
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  Speaker 2: I imagine doctors are mailing it into the White House
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  Speaker 2: as we speak. They might think it's the medical advice
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  Speaker 2: that America needs. If Biden and the Democrats don't do
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  Speaker 2: something dramatic in the next few weeks, they will be
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  Speaker 2: telling the American people that they just don't care about them.
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  Speaker 2: They're insulting voters with this charade. Sad times for the
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  Speaker 2: home of the Brave. Let's go back to this energy
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  Speaker 2: debarkle now and catch up with energy program director at
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  Speaker 2: the Center for Independent Studies, Aidan Morrison. Aiden, great to
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  Speaker 2: talk to you again. First up, this big decision by
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  Speaker 2: Fortescue on their huge green hydrogen plans is this is
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  Speaker 2: just a dose of.
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  Speaker 3: Reality that we all should have been expecting.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, indeed, that's exactly how I describe it. The engineering
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  Speaker 12: and economic realities they catch up eventually, and hydrogen's always
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  Speaker 12: been based on a healthy more very unhealthy dose of optimism.
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  Speaker 12: And because it's Tweaky's own money and the sharehold is
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  Speaker 12: money on the line, at some point when that optimism
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  Speaker 12: just doesn't look credible anymore, you'd expect this sort of
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  Speaker 12: thing to happen. Is saying exactly this. There's no point
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  Speaker 12: trying to swim upstream, clim up hill against this. They
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  Speaker 12: have to wait for the right economic conditions to emerge.
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  Speaker 12: That's the sort of maturity to expect from someone who's
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  Speaker 12: spending their own money. I just really hope that the
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  Speaker 12: federal government does the same thing regarding their twenty thirty
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  Speaker 12: targets for eighty two percent renewable energy in the grid,
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  Speaker 12: which also looks totally unfeasible. But they're spending taxpayers and
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  Speaker 12: adding to consumers' bills to get that to roll out,
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  Speaker 12: and I think it's about time that the same kind
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  Speaker 12: of acknowledgment happen on that front as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem, you know, if hydrogen doesn't work,
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  Speaker 2: it knocks a big hole in their plans. They're expecting
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  Speaker 2: vehicles and factories and all sorts of operations to be
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  Speaker 2: on hydrogen.
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  Speaker 3: It's just not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: That's been clear for a long while anyway. But the
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  Speaker 2: reality is kicking in as you say, what else? What
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  Speaker 2: else are they.
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  Speaker 3: Trying to inflict on us?
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  Speaker 2: I noticed Chris Bowen now is suggesting that we can
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  Speaker 2: all use our electric car batteries to power the grid
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  Speaker 2: when we're low on electricity supplies. But isn't that going
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  Speaker 2: to make it difficult for us to get our cars
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  Speaker 2: out of the garage the next morning?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 12: And so that's the problem. When you have this sort
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  Speaker 12: of feast and famine energy supply of renewable energy, you
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  Speaker 12: can shift the feasts and the famines around, but you
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  Speaker 12: can't make.
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  Speaker 1: It go away.
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  Speaker 12: Ultimately, so this idea that we'll use our cars to
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  Speaker 12: power the grid will then create other shortfalls the next
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  Speaker 12: day when you need it. And so the modeling that's
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  Speaker 12: been done fundamentally to sort of see to project this
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  Speaker 12: future of all renewables requires on us giving a whole
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  Speaker 12: bunch of control back to a central operator to basically
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  Speaker 12: discharge our cars at a time that it suits the grid,
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  Speaker 12: or recharge them at a time that it suits the grid.
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  Speaker 12: So there's been no serious proposal. In fact, if you
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  Speaker 12: read the fine print, they acknowledge they don't know the
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  Speaker 12: market mechanisms to make this happen. They're not sure what
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  Speaker 12: the requirement, what the efforts would be to sort of
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  Speaker 12: pay people enough money to make that happen. It's an
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  Speaker 12: enormous experiment and the assumption that it all can work
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  Speaker 12: out is basically been hard coded into the government's plan
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  Speaker 12: to bring about this ninety nine percent renewable energy transformation,
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  Speaker 12: which I think again unfortunately that's been pushed down the
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  Speaker 12: track far enough and to continue to ignore it. But
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  Speaker 12: all eyes will be on the minister's announcements on Friday
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  Speaker 12: about what he thinks he needs to pay the States
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  Speaker 12: to start all this expensive charging infrastructure to be rolled
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  Speaker 12: out to try to keep that hope alive. But I
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  Speaker 12: think the true costs are really written in the documents already.
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  Speaker 3: The key word is experiment, right.
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  Speaker 2: They keep telling us that this is some plan of
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  Speaker 2: proven technology, it's all going to work.
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  Speaker 3: It is such a bold experiment.
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  Speaker 2: No other country has even tried this, or even intends
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  Speaker 2: to try it. How much of a sense do you
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  Speaker 2: get that other countries are watching us to either learn
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  Speaker 2: from our mistakes or to barrack for us.
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  Speaker 3: Are they're hoping we succeed or they think we're nuts?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah?
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  Speaker 12: I think a lot of countries are looking at Australia,
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  Speaker 12: particularly as the country it's about to have a referendum
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  Speaker 12: on nuclear energy at the moment. There's certainly a lot
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  Speaker 12: of eyes on us for that. But also I think
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  Speaker 12: that we are hot on the tails of just a
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  Speaker 12: couple other jurisdictions in the world, like California and Germany
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  Speaker 12: that have been trying this renewables experiment, and it's worked
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  Speaker 12: out terribly there in terms of the energy costs they're paying.
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  Speaker 12: Germany's energy costs are roughly doubled over the last decade
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  Speaker 12: or so since they've started ramping down their nuclear Now
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  Speaker 12: they've phased it out, so ours are certainly going in
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  Speaker 12: the same direction. So yeah, I think that the rest
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  Speaker 12: of the world. The Czech Republic's announced they're just going
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  Speaker 12: to commit to building forward new nuclear reactors. They've a
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  Speaker 12: selected the Koreans for that. Italy is now considering nuclear again.
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  Speaker 12: The world has moved in the opposite direction. So Australia
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  Speaker 12: is the outline now and it gets certainly a lot
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  Speaker 12: of eyes on us to see how that works.
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  Speaker 2: And guess what, nuclear energy is not an experiment, it's
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  Speaker 2: proven technology.
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  Speaker 3: We know it works.
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  Speaker 2: That's the huge difference far from everything else. Thanks so much,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us AID and I appreciate it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Aiden Morrison there from the Center for Independent Studies.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, they knock nuclear a non reliable performer in
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: emissions free technology. Yet we're being having this absolutely absurd
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: experiment inflicted upon us.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: It's going to be disastrous.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to US politics now, and we'll do
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it through the eyes of former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: who's back.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: From the US into London.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Alexander, you must be
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: watching what's going on in the US with just utter amazement.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: But now that you've got revelations of a private meeting
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: between Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden and other Democrats going
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: public saying that he should rescind his nomination and not
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: go for a second term, surely we're entering the final
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: phase he is. Surely this man cannot put himself up
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: in November.
• 19:53
  Speaker 14: I think that's right.
• 19:54
  Speaker 15: By the way, I noticed that Adam Sheep, who was
• 19:56
  Speaker 15: a very well known congressman from California, is the Senate candidate.
• 20:02
  Speaker 15: Democratic Party Senate candidate in California, which means he's pretty
• 20:06
  Speaker 15: much guaranteed victory that he as well has come out
• 20:11
  Speaker 15: saying that Joe Biden should should withdraw his nomination. So
• 20:17
  Speaker 15: I think the pressure is really becoming huge, actually, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 15: I would expect Joe Biden in the next couple of
• 20:24
  Speaker 15: weeks to announce that he's not continuing. I certainly think
• 20:28
  Speaker 15: the shooting of Donald Trump helped to concentrate the minds
• 20:33
  Speaker 15: of the Democrats, because you know, Trump handled it in
• 20:38
  Speaker 15: a rather heroic sort of way. I see his surging
• 20:42
  Speaker 15: still more in the polls. So this will cause real
• 20:46
  Speaker 15: panic now amongst the Democrats and so put more pressure
• 20:50
  Speaker 15: on Joe Biden.
• 20:51
  Speaker 14: So I think he's finished.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Actually yeah, I mean the Republican Convention is coming across
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: almost as a coronation.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Of the next president.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: It's just to just seems so overwhelming the momentum there
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: at the moment. So the Democrats need to arrest out
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: and put up a viable alternative, and perhaps it's days
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: of COVID. We hope that Joe Biden gets through that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: with no trouble, but perhaps that's kind of timely because
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: he needs to sit down and have a good, long
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: part look at himself.
• 21:20
  Speaker 14: Well, I've assume that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: I mean, yes, the COVID does not denying the genuineness
• 21:27
  Speaker 15: of his COVID illness.
• 21:30
  Speaker 14: Of course, I.
• 21:30
  Speaker 15: Don't have any idea how bad it is or otherwise,
• 21:34
  Speaker 15: but it might be the opportunity he needs to say, well,
• 21:40
  Speaker 15: my health isn't perhaps as good as I thought it
• 21:43
  Speaker 15: would be.
• 21:44
  Speaker 14: I mean, it's not just about how he builds now.
• 21:46
  Speaker 15: By the way, he wants to run for another four years,
• 21:50
  Speaker 15: so I think he might use that as an opportunity
• 21:53
  Speaker 15: to pull out, which means the Democrats have very quickly
• 21:58
  Speaker 15: got to choose a new candidate. They choose Kamala Harris
• 22:01
  Speaker 15: the vice president. Then my guess is that they will
• 22:06
  Speaker 15: be guaranteed to lose exactly, so they need to choose
• 22:10
  Speaker 15: someone else.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Well, They're conventions are, you know, a month away, So
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: if he were to make an announcement in the next
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: few days, they've got weeks to look at that and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: have an open convention and maybe come up with a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: completely fresh ticket at the convention. It'll be unorthodox, but
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: it might be just what they need. Just before we
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: move on, though, I want to talk about the vice
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: presidential candidate the running made that Donald Trump has chosen, JD.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Vance.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I've not met him, but I've always been fascinated by
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: his career since reading He'll Billy elogy, and he gave
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: his major set piece speech at the convention today.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Here's a bit of that.
• 22:46
  Speaker 16: As tradesmen scrambled for jobs, houses start being built. The
• 22:50
  Speaker 16: lack of good jobs, of course, led to stagnant wages,
• 22:54
  Speaker 16: and then the Democrats flooded this country with millions of
• 22:58
  Speaker 16: illegal aliens. Joe Biden's fleecing crisis, my friends, is really
• 23:02
  Speaker 16: an affordability crisis.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very smart, very impressive man, former marine as well.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: But Alexandria rhymes of the fact that he's this working
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: class bloke with such a tough background made good. He's
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: almost the embodiment the American version of the Howard Butler,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: isn't he.
• 23:21
  Speaker 15: Absolutely, there's no doubt about that. Conservative candidates in Western
• 23:25
  Speaker 15: countries win elections if they can win over what used
• 23:31
  Speaker 15: to be called lower middle class people or tradees, those
• 23:37
  Speaker 15: kinds of people. And if they can't win that constituency
• 23:41
  Speaker 15: where the Conservatives in the UK at the recent election failed,
• 23:45
  Speaker 15: If they can't win that constituency, they're not going to
• 23:48
  Speaker 15: win an election.
• 23:49
  Speaker 14: So JD. Banks is exactly what the Republicans need.
• 23:55
  Speaker 15: To target, that particular community to target if you like.
• 24:01
  Speaker 15: And he has all the background, but not just that,
• 24:04
  Speaker 15: he has the intellect to pull it.
• 24:06
  Speaker 14: Off as well.
• 24:07
  Speaker 15: Absolutely a very smart choice at candidate. I mean we might,
• 24:12
  Speaker 15: by the way, we might think some of his language
• 24:15
  Speaker 15: doesn't resonate much in Australia, Well, don't worry about that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 15: He's not running for election in Australia. He's running for
• 24:21
  Speaker 15: election in America.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it resonates big time, particularly in the Midwest. Thanks
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: for joining us, Alexander appreciated Alexander down to their former
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: foreign minister joining us live from London. Got to get
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: to a break. On the other side, we'll catch up
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: with Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson as we do every Thursday.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: We've got to talk about Joe Biden under pressure and
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: also Melbourne on course to revolutionize food delivery.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Check this out.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Let's catch up with the Daily Telegraphs are Tim Blair
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and step Mate Studios Mark Nicholson.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Thanks guys both for joining us.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Mark, I know you live there in the heart of
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: trendy inner city Melbourne, supposedly the capital the cafe culture.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: But they're going to start delivering the cappuccinos and lathes
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: around there by drone soon it's going to put the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: cafes out of business.
• 25:11
  Speaker 17: Yeah, last week the city of the area, we're talking
• 25:13
  Speaker 17: about decolonizing the whole city.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And look at us now, look at us now we've
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: turned it around.
• 25:18
  Speaker 17: We're going high tech this week here in the city
• 25:20
  Speaker 17: of Melbourne.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Let me just show a clip.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Let me just show a clip that shows to us
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: what's going to happen in the streets of Melbourne.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: The airspace of Melbourne. Starting now, we have eighteen aircraft there.
• 25:34
  Speaker 18: They fly at about seventy meters when they're cruising on
• 25:37
  Speaker 18: their way to a customer's home. They're very fast, so
• 25:40
  Speaker 18: they fly it over one hundred kilometers an hour, which
• 25:42
  Speaker 18: means once we have the package, the customer will have
• 25:44
  Speaker 18: their order within minutes. Drones can deliver packages to most
• 25:48
  Speaker 18: single dwelling properties within our delivery area, so anywhere with
• 25:52
  Speaker 18: their NAT six kilometer radius. As long as you've got
• 25:54
  Speaker 18: about four meter radius spare clear in your backyard, then
• 25:58
  Speaker 18: our drones should be able to to forward it every
• 26:01
  Speaker 18: four you.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, Mark, this is going to be so good you
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: have to ring the neighbors. Sorry, mate, my chicken luxe
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: got dropped on your tesla.
• 26:11
  Speaker 17: Yeah, and traveling at one hundred kilometers an hour and
• 26:13
  Speaker 17: seventy meters in the air, it's going to be frozen
• 26:16
  Speaker 17: food by the time it comes here. It's gonna be
• 26:18
  Speaker 17: an iced latte dropping on your doorsteps. I tell you what,
• 26:22
  Speaker 17: I try and be progressive, mate. I try and enjoy,
• 26:25
  Speaker 17: you know, and accept these technological advancements. And I'm this
• 26:29
  Speaker 17: is very Jetsons to me, and I'm trying to accept it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 17: But I do think this is going to be a
• 26:33
  Speaker 17: very interesting space to watch. This food literally dropping from
• 26:36
  Speaker 17: the sky. I reckon, Tim, this is going to.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Be a night, nightmare and footy season.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: When you someone's going for the match winning goal, you're
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: going to stop by someone's big mac fly find the
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: fitz Roy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 19: There might be a few issues. I mean, seriously, are
• 26:51
  Speaker 19: they first they take our guns away? And now this
• 26:56
  Speaker 19: can you imagine being a kid with you with your
• 26:59
  Speaker 19: air rap back in the day when we're allowed to
• 27:01
  Speaker 19: have him. Man, those things would present a challenge. Hundred cage.
• 27:04
  Speaker 19: I want to take out your neighbors.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Begun. Thank you many ideas I'm all for.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I'm all for takeaway food and fast delivery.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: But I reckon, there's going to be trouble here.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: That's going to be Now let's go.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Let's go to something more serious, but probably a lot
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: more troubling, and that is the future of the greatest
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: democracy on the planet, the Great Republic. Let's have a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: listening to Joe Biden. He tells us that if he
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: gets the tap from the doctor, he might stand aside.
• 27:41
  Speaker 11: Some medical condition and emerge. If somebody, if the doctors
• 27:44
  Speaker 11: came to me, said you go to this problem.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: That problemim it says, if some medical condition emerged, he's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: already forgotten how crook he is.
• 27:54
  Speaker 19: If a doctor explains to him how bad he is,
• 27:56
  Speaker 19: how will he understand it. There's a lot of challenges
• 27:59
  Speaker 19: in this sort of thing, in the in the general
• 28:02
  Speaker 19: theme of things. Don't you go to the doctor?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 28:06
  Speaker 19: Is that how medicine works? You sit there and wait
• 28:09
  Speaker 19: and then eventually shows Even here a bit croc made
• 28:13
  Speaker 19: the tablets, Well, maybe those resign you.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's smarter than we think he is, because he
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: knows if he goes to the doctor, he's done.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: It's just it's terrible to watch, isn't it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Mark?
• 28:29
  Speaker 17: It's honestly, mate, Like I said, I think I said
• 28:31
  Speaker 17: to you a couple of weeks ago. I heave and
• 28:33
  Speaker 17: flow between thinking this is very funny too. This is
• 28:36
  Speaker 17: genuinely terrifying. And this one they're seeing getting COVID today, that's,
• 28:42
  Speaker 17: you know, that's that's the big news today, that he's
• 28:44
  Speaker 17: got COVID. And there's part of me that's like, geez,
• 28:46
  Speaker 17: that's scary because he's right there. He's had a bazooan boosters,
• 28:50
  Speaker 17: so he might survive this. But and there's also part
• 28:52
  Speaker 17: of me now that's realizing that maybe this is just
• 28:54
  Speaker 17: like the Trump assassination. It's an attempt. It's a d
• 28:57
  Speaker 17: n C, you know, inside job, and he's going to
• 29:01
  Speaker 17: emerge in a couple of weeks, you know, Pump in
• 29:02
  Speaker 17: the fifth saying fight fight, fight by beat COVID and
• 29:05
  Speaker 17: get a.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Similar boost in the polls.
• 29:07
  Speaker 17: It's whoever's writing this season of the US politics's they're
• 29:10
  Speaker 17: absolutely nailing. It's well, let's going to another in writing
• 29:14
  Speaker 17: that it's reality.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: There's another great installment of it, and it's from the
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Vice President, Kamala Harris, calling for unity.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Have a look at this.
• 29:23
  Speaker 20: There must be unity around the idea that while our
• 29:28
  Speaker 20: nation's history has been scarred by political violence, violence is
• 29:33
  Speaker 20: never acceptable. There can be no equivocation about that.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she says they needs to be unified and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: nicer to each other. Tim But at the same time
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: she says that she says the other guy is evil personified.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Then there'll be the end of democracy if he wins,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: and that there'll be bloody riots if he loses.
• 29:55
  Speaker 19: Yeahn't. Didn't the peace and love phase of the Biden
• 29:57
  Speaker 19: campaign last a long long time? I think it maybe
• 30:00
  Speaker 19: twelve hours little unify, and then it was back to Hitler.
• 30:03
  Speaker 19: And now, just on a side note, it's clear that
• 30:07
  Speaker 19: any xanax shortage in Washington is way overrated. They've got
• 30:09
  Speaker 19: plenty of that stuff going around, camel speech patterns and
• 30:14
  Speaker 19: in general patterns of thought.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's always good to listen to Kamala though,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: isn't it. Nor Now, what I like about Kamala Mark
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: is that she says something that's really pointless, and then
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: she says something that's really pointless again, just to emphasize
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: how pointless it is.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, And.
• 30:35
  Speaker 17: Yeah, it's funny how you can't really understand her most
• 30:40
  Speaker 17: of the time, but when she's calling you know, her
• 30:43
  Speaker 17: political opponents Hitler or dehumanizing them, it's crystal clear. I'd
• 30:49
  Speaker 17: love to take her word for it. Like I don't
• 30:51
  Speaker 17: know about you, by, I'm sure you blokes have copted
• 30:53
  Speaker 17: as well. I've had dams calling me Hitler, telling me
• 30:57
  Speaker 17: to go kill myself and all those sort of things
• 30:59
  Speaker 17: like I've copped it, and nowhere near to the level.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: That they get. I'd love to draw a draw a
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: line in the sand.
• 31:10
  Speaker 19: Absolutely, I'm sorry for sending all those messages.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Now, I'd love to take Kamala Harris's words for it. Guys.
• 31:20
  Speaker 17: You know, just you know what can be unburdened by
• 31:23
  Speaker 17: what has been.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, Let's be unified. That'd be lovely. Let's
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Let us be what we can be, unburdened by what
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: we have been and are being into the future. Tim,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't notice it at first, but if you get
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: turn a little bit to your left, we can see
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: that you're sporting that a bandage that has become so
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: popular in the US.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: This is hilarious.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Haven't look at this from the convention where all respectable
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Republicans are actually doffing doffing the bandages in solidarity with
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: The fantastic stuff. Tim, how is your ear?
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 32:00
  Speaker 19: You know, for once, I'm I'm vaguely in fashionate. It
• 32:03
  Speaker 19: doesn't happen very often, but you know, I blame myself.
• 32:05
  Speaker 19: I was out there walking near a building with a
• 32:07
  Speaker 19: slight slope on it didn't didn't didn't observe usual safety
• 32:12
  Speaker 19: and and and cop the copper shop.
• 32:14
  Speaker 14: To the year.
• 32:14
  Speaker 19: But yeah, it's a charming fashion old I hope it
• 32:19
  Speaker 19: goes away quickly. But at least I'm not stupid enough
• 32:21
  Speaker 19: to be wearing a mask that would really be making
• 32:24
  Speaker 19: me look foolish.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, great stuff.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Well I can see both your your ears, Mark, so
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you're obviously a shocking lefty.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Thanks Johnnys, have a good weekend, Mark Nicholson and similar
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: there Tim's ere I'm I.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Think it's going to heal. I think it'll be okay.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Now, coming up after the break, we're going to talk
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: about this Green senator who's upset over one of your
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Hannahs League's cartoons, plus Day three of the Republican National
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Convention and that powerful speech from Trump's newly elected running mate.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Our favorite cartoonist, Johanna's leak from The Australian is being
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: threatened with a defamation suit by Green Senator Marine Ferruki.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: The first stems from a television appearance by Farruki early
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: this month where she refused to say that the Islamist
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: terrorist group Hamasi conducted the October the seventh Atrocity's triggering
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: war with Israel.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: She refused to say that they should be dismantled.
• 33:23
  Speaker 13: Do you think HAMAS should be dismantled?
• 33:26
  Speaker 21: HAMAS is listed as a terrorist organization, and there is
• 33:30
  Speaker 21: no absolutely no change that we're demanding.
• 33:32
  Speaker 13: In that should it be dismantled.
• 33:37
  Speaker 21: Hamas is an organization that exists in the region that
• 33:42
  Speaker 21: we are talking about here, right, Who is going to
• 33:45
  Speaker 21: who will dismantle it? It is up to the people
• 33:50
  Speaker 21: in Palestine and that region to make sure that people
• 33:53
  Speaker 21: can live in peace.
• 33:54
  Speaker 13: But I will say this again.
• 33:57
  Speaker 21: At the moment, only some people in that region have
• 34:01
  Speaker 21: the rights that every human deserves.
• 34:04
  Speaker 13: Sure you can say the dawn. Surely you're able to
• 34:06
  Speaker 13: say whether you'd like to see them gone, and.
• 34:09
  Speaker 21: It's not up to me to say who should be
• 34:11
  Speaker 21: gone or not.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: In the same interview, the Senator was dismissive about andy
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Israeli pro Palestinian graffiti on the War Memorial.
• 34:21
  Speaker 13: What about targeting the war Memorial? Is that okay as well?
• 34:25
  Speaker 21: I mean, I again think that talking about some paint
• 34:30
  Speaker 21: on a building rather than what's happening in Israel.
• 34:35
  Speaker 13: This is this is a pretty sacred building for a
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: lot of Timon. I wouldn't have done it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Ferruki was widely condemned over the interview, including by the
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister and Lek's cartoon in the Australian gave us
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: this image Faruki in hummas garb whitewashing over October the
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: seventh and protesting what's the big deal, It's just a
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: bit of paint.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: The Senator has.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Now threatened legal action, claiming the cartoons suggests she's covering
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: up the truth and that it's racist. The Australian rejects
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the claims and is standing by the cartoon and its cartoonist.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I thought Johanna s Leek's reaction earlier.
• 35:12
  Speaker 22: Well, definitely, it's a first for me that a politician
• 35:18
  Speaker 22: or anybody for that matter has been so offended that
• 35:20
  Speaker 22: they've brung the lawyers up and you know, started deformation
• 35:24
  Speaker 22: proceedings against me.
• 35:25
  Speaker 14: That has not happened.
• 35:26
  Speaker 22: Yet, so first time, but that somebody has been so
• 35:34
  Speaker 22: upset by my cartoon that they've felt themselves to bring
• 35:38
  Speaker 22: the lawyers in. Well, yeah, it's the first client.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Well, she says it's racist is one of the things
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: she complains about.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: She says, it's defametry and it's racist.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: This brings back echoes of the attacks against your own father,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: of course, over his cartoons. Can you see anything explained
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: to us how this cartoon is or could be seen
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: as racist.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I have no idea how she came to that conclusion.
• 36:02
  Speaker 22: I mean I have drawn her in the same way
• 36:06
  Speaker 22: that I draw all subjects of you know, characters in
• 36:10
  Speaker 22: my in my work.
• 36:11
  Speaker 14: You know, Eric had cured her in the usual way.
• 36:14
  Speaker 22: She's wearing a cafe a scarf, which was wearing in
• 36:18
  Speaker 22: the interviewing question. I cannot see it. I mean, unless
• 36:22
  Speaker 22: the new rules around you know, racism and so forth
• 36:27
  Speaker 22: mean that it is simply unacceptable to draw a cartoon
• 36:32
  Speaker 22: that is in any way critical of somebody who's not
• 36:34
  Speaker 22: a straight white males. I think that's that's what the
• 36:40
  Speaker 22: new rules are. I mean otherwise, I simply cannot understand why,
• 36:44
  Speaker 22: you know, what's good, what what applies, or what is
• 36:48
  Speaker 22: perfectly tolerable to the majority of politicians and other people
• 36:51
  Speaker 22: out there, is is beyond the pale and racist.
• 36:54
  Speaker 14: When when it happens to send her on Mary in Feruki, I.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Want to go if you had us to your follow
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: up cartoon this morning, which is defiant and funny and brilliant,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: and let's just have a look at that, because this
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: is terrific. I think you've got Anthony alb Easy saying
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: what's made you so cross marine, and she's saying, I've
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: been satirized in a cartoon.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't understand.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Elbow's standing there, and he's underpants as you always have him,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: spit all coming out. There's no Muke's bow, and there's
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Lurch Peter Dunton, there's Biden with his walking frame. There's
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: there's Justinadurn looking like Farlapp.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're having a pretty good crack at all
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: of them. You're Harris, Well, that's right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just exactly.
• 37:41
  Speaker 22: I just wanted to highlight this absurd situation where all
• 37:45
  Speaker 22: of a sudden, you know, she takes it takes particular
• 37:49
  Speaker 22: offense to this tradition that we have, of course of
• 37:53
  Speaker 22: being able to draw cartoons and and you know, draw
• 37:58
  Speaker 22: satire and and send up our politicians. I mean, it's
• 38:03
  Speaker 22: part of a healthy, robust democratic nation and a system,
• 38:09
  Speaker 22: and it's part of the healthy sort of argue bardy
• 38:13
  Speaker 22: of politics and the sort of national debate. And it's
• 38:18
  Speaker 22: very revealing because you know, her instinct is to shut
• 38:21
  Speaker 22: that down is something I don't like. Rather than the
• 38:24
  Speaker 22: respect the traditions of free speech and free expression, her
• 38:29
  Speaker 22: instinct is to shut it down and to delete it
• 38:33
  Speaker 22: from the public record. And I think that's incredibly telling
• 38:36
  Speaker 22: and it shows there's a real totalitarian impulse, you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 22: working there somewhere.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, good on you, and good on the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Australian for standing by it and not backing down and
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: making fun of the whole situation. I always feel a
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: bit self conscious and a debate like this because of
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the action I took against the AVC. But they just
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: called me a dog something, or rather they were trying
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to shut me.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Down to feel free.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: You saw for your Hannahs. Any time to do a.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Cartoon that mocks the way I look and mocks my
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: ridiculous views, go your hardest.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: No worries made, no worries.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hannah's leak. They're just a great cartoonist. And
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: good on him for heeding back with another laugh. Now,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, it's been a big day three
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: The highlight was the vice presidential running mate JD.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Vance.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: He was formally accepting his nomination into that position. He's
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: well known to many of us who have read his
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: book He'll Billy Elegy or even seen the movie and
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: in many ways. This would have been his first introduction
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: though to a national United States audience. Royal Report host
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Caroline de Russo is there and she takes us through
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: the day.
• 39:47
  Speaker 23: It's been an absolutely huge occasion, and talk about talking
• 39:51
  Speaker 23: to the party faithful. Look, I had an absolutely amazing
• 39:54
  Speaker 23: New York strip steak for lunch, but it was nothing
• 39:57
  Speaker 23: like the red meat that got served up tonight. To
• 39:59
  Speaker 23: the elegance here at the convention, it has just been unbelievable.
• 40:05
  Speaker 23: And obviously the day finished with JD. Evans, but there
• 40:08
  Speaker 23: were so many people speaking before that, and there's been
• 40:13
  Speaker 23: so much conversation about a stronger America and a safe
• 40:17
  Speaker 23: America and talking about immigration and talking about that withdrawal
• 40:20
  Speaker 23: from Afghanistan, and talking about anti Semitism. It has been
• 40:25
  Speaker 23: absolutely unreal how much content, how much narrative, and how
• 40:29
  Speaker 23: disciplined it's been that has come out today.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a couple of grabs here from Jdvan
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to go to the second one first
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: to just get the guys in the studio to flip
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: them around, because this is where he's talking about some
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of the policy issues and the need to bring Americans
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and Republicans together. He's the vice presidential candidate for the Republicans.
• 40:52
  Speaker 16: I want to respond to his call for unity myself.
• 40:55
  Speaker 16: We have a big tent in this party on everything
• 40:58
  Speaker 16: from national security to economic policy. But my message to you,
• 41:02
  Speaker 16: my fellow Republicans, is we love this country and we
• 41:06
  Speaker 16: are united to win.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kara.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: JD. Van's strong on a number of issues, but really
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: keen to talk up those economic opportunities, helping people protect
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: their jobs, get more employment, protect local industry.
• 41:24
  Speaker 24: Absolutely.
• 41:25
  Speaker 23: And he grew up in the russ Belt and you
• 41:27
  Speaker 23: know Ohio. I've got family who live in Cleveland, Ohio
• 41:31
  Speaker 23: who are factory workers and that sort of thing as well.
• 41:34
  Speaker 23: They are very Middle America and that there is very
• 41:37
  Speaker 23: much the suburban campaign that Donald Trump is looking to
• 41:41
  Speaker 23: bring to this next election.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: JD.
• 41:43
  Speaker 23: Vance hits that nail on the head perfectly because.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: He not that he can just talk about it.
• 41:48
  Speaker 23: He's walked it, he's done it, he's lived it, and
• 41:51
  Speaker 23: he knows how to engage with the American people on
• 41:53
  Speaker 23: those issues.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: He sure does.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I've talked before about his book Hill Billy Elergy. It
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: tells his life story. It was a tough upbringing and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: he was raised really by his grandmother, because his mom
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't such a great mum. She was a single mother,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: an addict, and it was really jd Vance's grandmother who
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: helped him get along. So I thought it was a
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: particularly moving moment at the convention when jd Vance in
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: his speech introduced his mom with some good news.
• 42:22
  Speaker 16: Our movement is about single moms like mine who struggled
• 42:26
  Speaker 16: with money and addiction but never gave up. And I'm
• 42:30
  Speaker 16: proud to say that tonight my mom is here ten
• 42:32
  Speaker 16: years clean and sober.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I love your mom.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: That was an incredible moment caa when he says, actually
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: the official ten year anniversary of going sober will be
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: in January next year, and he's suggesting they might have
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: that celebration in the White House.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Who knows, Aye in the White House.
• 42:57
  Speaker 23: Absolutely, and the whole crowd was channing Jad's mum was.
• 43:01
  Speaker 23: There was not a dry eye anywhere. It was an
• 43:04
  Speaker 23: incredibly emotional moment. You could just tell everyone was totally
• 43:09
  Speaker 23: drawn into that moment and the way he talked about
• 43:11
  Speaker 23: his mum, and the way he talked about his grandmother
• 43:14
  Speaker 23: and about how she kept him on the straight and narrow,
• 43:17
  Speaker 23: and that after she passed away, they were cleaning up
• 43:21
  Speaker 23: her place and they found nineteen loaded weapons around the
• 43:25
  Speaker 23: house because in her older age she struggled with mobility,
• 43:28
  Speaker 23: so she had to make sure that she was, you know,
• 43:30
  Speaker 23: within arm's reach of being able to defend her home.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: And then that there kind of I suppose.
• 43:35
  Speaker 23: Tied off the whole evening of well, what the job
• 43:39
  Speaker 23: of the government is is to not tell you how
• 43:41
  Speaker 23: to run your life, but to help you defend your
• 43:44
  Speaker 23: home and help defend the country.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is hard for us to get our heads
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: around that gun culture and the need to do that
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: to protect yourself all the same, but it wasn't an
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: incredible moment, as you say, I just want to go back,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: carrow to some of the policy issues you mentioned. You
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: did mention immigration. That's a big theme and it's going
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: to be a big theme in the election campaign, and
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: the Texas governor Republican Governor of Texas Greg Abbott talked
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: about how he couldn't get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: to come down to the border to see the problem.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: So through his bussing program, he took the problem to them.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Have a look.
• 44:17
  Speaker 19: I took the border to them.
• 44:20
  Speaker 24: I began bussing illegal goes to Washington, DC, and we
• 44:32
  Speaker 24: have continued bussing sanctuary cities across the entire country and
• 44:38
  Speaker 24: those buses will continue to roll until we finally secure
• 44:43
  Speaker 24: our border.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a hell of a reaction, Caro. This is going
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: to be a big issue, isn't it. Had the election
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the Republicans saying vote for Trump, vance and we will
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: fix the border.
• 45:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 45:01
  Speaker 23: And as you can hear that reaction, the entire place
• 45:05
  Speaker 23: just erupted. Chris, and you know that there has been
• 45:08
  Speaker 23: the nuance within the conversation here at the convention between
• 45:12
  Speaker 23: illegal and legal migration. There are plenty of people who
• 45:16
  Speaker 23: have been up on stage, plenty of people who are
• 45:19
  Speaker 23: representing the American people, either in the Congress or the Senate,
• 45:22
  Speaker 23: who come from migrant families that work very, very hard.
• 45:25
  Speaker 23: They want those people to have the American dream, but
• 45:28
  Speaker 23: they understand that to preserve the prosperity of the USA,
• 45:32
  Speaker 23: they need to be able to have control of their
• 45:33
  Speaker 23: borders because then that impacts on housing, that impacts on wages,
• 45:38
  Speaker 23: and those there are very very sensitive issues for the
• 45:42
  Speaker 23: American public at the moment.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Caro, thanks for joining us.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I've got to say, as a royal reporter, you do
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a great job on Republican democracy.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: I'm doing my best, Chris.
• 45:54
  Speaker 23: I like to be versatile if I can.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Versatile.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Indeed, great stuff from Caro all over that Republican convention
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: for us.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: We've got to take a break.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm going to catch up with
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Keith Pitt, get his thoughts on Twiggy Forest's green hydrogen crusade.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: We're hitting a brick wall.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Also might even check in on the State of Origin
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Decider last night. Let's go to Bundenberg and catch up
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: with the former Resources Minister nationals MP Keith Pitt.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Keith, don't have a lot of time.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I've got to get your thoughts, give us your crystallized
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: thoughts on this ford a skew back down on green
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: hydrogen targets and what it means for Anthony Alberanezi and
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen's targets.
• 46:39
  Speaker 25: Well, the green hydrogen debate has been won by knockout
• 46:41
  Speaker 25: by physics, engineering and economics.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Chris.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: That's the reality. And no matter how.
• 46:46
  Speaker 25: Much Chris Balon might screw his eyes, touch shut and
• 46:49
  Speaker 25: wish and wish and wish, that it might be different.
• 46:51
  Speaker 25: Wishing for things won't make the change that's necessary. You
• 46:54
  Speaker 25: need a technological breakthrough in every stage of the production
• 46:57
  Speaker 25: cycle and transport and logistics. You have to get the
• 47:00
  Speaker 25: costs from around nine dollars to under two dollars a kilo.
• 47:04
  Speaker 25: It's just not achievable, no matter how many billions of
• 47:06
  Speaker 25: dollars you.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Throw at it. But this is the trouble.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: They've thrown billions of dollars on it, They've wasted time
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: on it. The whole energy needs of the country to
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: some extent reliance on it.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: We're going backwards.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: In this energy caper at the moment rather than going forwards.
• 47:23
  Speaker 25: And I forget seven hundred people have lost their ability
• 47:26
  Speaker 25: to pay their weight, to pay their mortgages, to pay
• 47:28
  Speaker 25: their car payments, to live, to pay for their kids' education.
• 47:32
  Speaker 25: And the thing that does work is the coalition's.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Policy crise nuclear energy.
• 47:35
  Speaker 25: Prove it around the world, and it's one of the
• 47:38
  Speaker 25: reasons we put it forward because it meets the requirements
• 47:40
  Speaker 25: for this country.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sure does. Let me just briefly get your
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: thoughts on the CF.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: The Labor Party today, as we predicted yesterday, have decided
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: they'll take no more donations from the CFMEU for now,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: and they'll keep them out of their party operations for
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: at least.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: A short time. Is this enough or do we need
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: a royal commission?
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I think both. We know there's been criminal elements.
• 48:03
  Speaker 25: We've seen that before, we've seen the prosecutions. They've already
• 48:06
  Speaker 25: taken what six or seven million dollars already. Maybe they
• 48:09
  Speaker 25: don't need anymore, but the CFMAU should be deregistered. They
• 48:12
  Speaker 25: should go the way at the BLF, whether that's for
• 48:14
  Speaker 25: a raw commission or otherwise. Because what's happening right across
• 48:17
  Speaker 25: this country Chris is projects are costing three and four
• 48:20
  Speaker 25: times more than they should and every single one of
• 48:23
  Speaker 25: those that occurs could have built another hospital and another
• 48:26
  Speaker 25: road and something else that taxpayers deserve and actually need. Instead,
• 48:30
  Speaker 25: it's going through this large yss.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Now Keith, as you know, on one of those Australians
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: who finds it unnatural to throw a football, but I
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: do take an interest in origin. And in the second
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: half last night when I saw New South Wales the
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: good Old Blues get across for a try and then
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: a second one.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: It did occur to me.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Are we talking to Keith tomorrow, He's not going to
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: be happy.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Pretty tough getting beaten on your own Dunghill.
• 48:54
  Speaker 25: I've put the blue tie on for you, Chris bitterly disappointing,
• 48:57
  Speaker 25: but New South Wales two good, too big, too strong,
• 49:00
  Speaker 25: too much football, deserve to win. But no one can
• 49:03
  Speaker 25: say Queen's letting didn't try their hearts out.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Mate.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: I'm still proud of them anyway.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I tell you what, as an Ossie Rules lover, this
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: is good footy to watch and this is a bit.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Of biffo here.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: There's sort of stuff that they're sort of umpiring right
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: out of Ozzie Rules.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Ever.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Look, oh he was almost flicking damage with ball in
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: hand on Terrigan. They look threatening here, Jake Tribe, Mitchell
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Ma just smart and came flying onst.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Look at this for a hit textbook tackle.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty tough stuff, Keith. It's like a showdown
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: in Ossie rules.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: They need to bring back state of origin between South
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Australia and Victoria. Thanks for joining us and commiseration boys.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Sure we'll be Keith hit there, Keith Pete there in
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Bunderberg and Queensland there licking their wounds.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: The Queenslanders today. Let me just squeeze it if we've
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: got a little bit of time.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, some of your feedback from what we had to
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: say last night about Kevin Rud and Peter Sai.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Kevin Rudd is a genius in his own mind.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Brian said, Rudd is just pathetically trying to keep his job.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Another viewer says America will not put up with Kevin Rudd,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: and Paula says Rudd's going to pack his bag because.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: He's going to leave the day after the election. Fair enough,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: thanks for joining me this week. Peter Kredlin is up next.