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55KRC Monday Show - Venezuela, Smitherman, Scott Hughes, Andre Ewing · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five o five at fifty five k r C the
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  Speaker 1: talk station. Happy Monday, something will a vacation this duke,
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  Speaker 1: What the hell could uti vacation from my vacation? Ah,
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  Speaker 1: Happy Monday and Happy New Year to everybody. Brian Thomas, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to be back on some levels and not
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  Speaker 1: happy to be back because I was able to sleep
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  Speaker 1: until eight o'clock in the morning every day while I
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  Speaker 1: was off, which was really amazing. I cannot tell you
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  Speaker 1: how good that is. But at two thirty alarm went off.
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  Speaker 1: I got right out of bed. Was afraid it was
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  Speaker 1: going to oversleep, so enough motivation to get out of
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  Speaker 1: bed because I didn't know if my voice would even
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  Speaker 1: work this morning. Appreciate those that covered for me, and
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  Speaker 1: thank you Jo Ecker for the best of It's of
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  Speaker 1: funny when I get the best of shows. Joe reruns
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  Speaker 1: interviews that I've done in the past and put together
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  Speaker 1: a nice four hour segment of some important interviews that
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  Speaker 1: he hand selects. I get text Joe. I got a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of text messages people saying, hey, would you please
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  Speaker 1: bring up and can you mention this? And I really
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed the interview with so and so. You should say
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  Speaker 1: something along these lines of like I'm on vacation. I
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  Speaker 1: wake up, I got like four text messages, and I
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  Speaker 1: get out of BET at eight, Like there they are
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  Speaker 1: some stuff that's been running on the show since the
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  Speaker 1: mic went on at five, or the well recordings went
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  Speaker 1: on at five o'clock. Anyway, got a kick out. I
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  Speaker 1: certainly appreciate the people chiming in. No, I was on
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  Speaker 1: vacation and I did enjoy it, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank my family for the wonderful time. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if Joe's anybody you know have a
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  Speaker 1: deal with the flu that's going through you, you know people.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you can avoid it. It went
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  Speaker 1: through our entire family, ruined our crew. Well I can't
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  Speaker 1: say it ruined Chris us because it didn't really ruin Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: It just caused that delay. We couldn't have our traditional
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  Speaker 1: Christmas meal together. And you know, God bless my mom
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  Speaker 1: all my words. She was so so sick. I mean
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  Speaker 1: she was out for a couple of weeks. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I got it, my wife got it. Fortunately, tamilflu to
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  Speaker 1: the rescue for us. We got a Tama flu prescription
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  Speaker 1: right out of the gate and only lasted a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days with the flu, so quick recovery for us
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  Speaker 1: and my daughter had I just went through everybody. So
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  Speaker 1: I hope that if you had to deal with the
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  Speaker 1: struggles of that flu going around, that you got through
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  Speaker 1: it without too any problems. Anyway. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
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  Speaker 1: with toime five fifty on at and T funds. Gee,
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  Speaker 1: it's too bad. There's nothing going on in the world
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. Wow. I came in this morning, and
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely loved it when it first came out. That
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  Speaker 1: was that was the sense I inquire that posted it,
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  Speaker 1: how your neighborhood had voted, neighborhood voted for mayor, And
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  Speaker 1: there's this graphic of the city of Cincinnati and all
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  Speaker 1: the different neighborhood and how overwhelmingly the vast majority of
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  Speaker 1: them voted for After a provo in the current administration,
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  Speaker 1: you know, status quo continues. He's got a color graphic
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  Speaker 1: map taped up in here in the fifty five Carrici
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  Speaker 1: Morning Show studios promptly displayed. So when we finally get
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  Speaker 1: to for example, for example, Christopher Smitheman, who will be
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  Speaker 1: joining the program at seven twenty. So when we talk
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  Speaker 1: to Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes at seven point
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  Speaker 1: forty five and get his opinion on the violence that
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  Speaker 1: happened over the last couple of weeks, and we hear
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  Speaker 1: from brother Andrea Ewing, Brother Dre in studio, love hearing
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  Speaker 1: from him about the violence that's going on around the city.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on, and I love Signal ninety
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  Speaker 1: nine I have given her and the group that collectively,
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  Speaker 1: I suppose is the the posting that is on Facebook
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  Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine former police officers. She is, but it
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  Speaker 1: gets a lot of help from active law enforcement officers
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  Speaker 1: about the information she shares. Man. She has been on
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  Speaker 1: fire calling out the administration its failures here on a
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  Speaker 1: local level, but obviously with the so called regime change
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  Speaker 1: going on in Venezuela. I want to start now the
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  Speaker 1: questions of legality, international law violations, you know, extra extra
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  Speaker 1: constitutional military actions. I know all of the arguments, I
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  Speaker 1: have read them. I know with Senator Paul and Senator
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  Speaker 1: in Congressman Massey say about it, there is precedent for
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  Speaker 1: this Maduro, precedent for Maduro. Yeah. Does ever remember Uhriegan Noriega?
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  Speaker 1: President Manuel Noriega. Yeah, we did this before, and Noriega
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  Speaker 1: made all of the legal arguments that you can anticipate
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  Speaker 1: that Madua is going to make in court, and it
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  Speaker 1: failed across the board. Was Bush impeached as a consequence
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  Speaker 1: of this? No? And what is the the ultimate penalty
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  Speaker 1: if a president acts extra constitutionally? Are they going to
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  Speaker 1: haulme through an impeachment hearing? This remains to be seen.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much to unpackage on this, but I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to start at least and give props to, regardless of
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  Speaker 1: how you feel about how the administration did this and
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  Speaker 1: whether or not it's an appropriate thing, Props to the
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  Speaker 1: American military. I'm old enough to remember when Jimmy Carter
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  Speaker 1: tried to rescue the hostages and that did not go well.
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  Speaker 1: It was a national military embarrassment. We lost service members,
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  Speaker 1: helicopters crash, We did not free the hostages. It was
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  Speaker 1: in international embarrassment. Compare that operation with what happened over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. You know, Maduro hasn't had I should underscore
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  Speaker 1: had a military. He's got soldiers all around him, not
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  Speaker 1: a single American service member lost in that action, success
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  Speaker 1: carried out over a matter of just a very short
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  Speaker 1: period of time. Lights go out, military targets, the air
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  Speaker 1: defenses are blown up, allowing us our military to successfully
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  Speaker 1: engage and get to the target, grab him, pick him up,
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  Speaker 1: and take him out of the country in a matter
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  Speaker 1: of moments. It was an amazing operation. So, in spite
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  Speaker 1: of the ripple effects this is going to have, and
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  Speaker 1: it's going to profound ripple effects, that it was so
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  Speaker 1: successfully carried out, I want to just salute and congratulate
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  Speaker 1: the men and women in uniform and the amount of
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  Speaker 1: preparation that went to this. Was a retired Delta Delta
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  Speaker 1: Force vet who talked about this. It was just interviewed
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  Speaker 1: by Fox News. Guy named John McPhee served as US
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  Speaker 1: Army's Elite Special Operations, you know, speaking with Fox over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend yesterday, specifically pointing out the biggest challenge of
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  Speaker 1: all this came before the operators reached the target. He said,
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  Speaker 1: I'd say the most difficult task is knocking out all
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  Speaker 1: of the air offenses and getting guys on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Once the guys are on the ground, they can handle themselves. However,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta get to the fight if you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have a fight, And isn't that impressive. I'm proud of
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  Speaker 1: the American military, at least in so far as carrying
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  Speaker 1: out the operation. Again, we're left with the aftermath of
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  Speaker 1: what is going to happen next, but you cannot deny
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  Speaker 1: the wild success that we had and at least carrying
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  Speaker 1: out the operation and succeeding on the goal that was
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  Speaker 1: articulated by the President and of course his advisors. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And this retired forces guy, he said something like this
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  Speaker 1: would take months to kind of plan to get organized.
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  Speaker 1: But once the guy's figured it out, there's no stopping him.
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  Speaker 1: And they had created a mock up of the I
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  Speaker 1: guess the presidential living quarters, and they planned raids using
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  Speaker 1: a building that they created that mirrored the one that
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  Speaker 1: Maduro was in. And you know, you know that we
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  Speaker 1: had help and there's been a lot of rumors circulating,
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  Speaker 1: and we had inside information that we knew where he
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  Speaker 1: was going to be at any given time, we followed
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  Speaker 1: his actions, we knew what he wore during the day,
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  Speaker 1: we knew where he was going to walk to, so
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  Speaker 1: lots of inside information, of course, putting operatives in place
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  Speaker 1: was critical to this mission. How many how do you
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  Speaker 1: find a guy unless you have help on the inside.
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  Speaker 1: And let me ask you this, where is Venezuela's military Now?
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  Speaker 1: They didn't just disappear, or maybe they did. Are they
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  Speaker 1: going to be willing to play, uh, play nicely with
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  Speaker 1: the Trump administration as he tries to successfully run the
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  Speaker 1: country as he kind of framed it the other day,
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  Speaker 1: Are we going to have boots on the ground inside
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  Speaker 1: Venezuela try to keep order? It was also the other
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  Speaker 1: concern that I have insofar as event as well as
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  Speaker 1: military concerned. I cant imagine a lot of them. They're
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  Speaker 1: so corrupt, they're so you know, entrenched with this money
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  Speaker 1: that's flowing in from you know, the likes of China
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  Speaker 1: and Russia, because of course they're the ones buying the
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  Speaker 1: sanctioned oil. A lot of the corruption extends way into
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  Speaker 1: the military. They're prett sitting fat and happier war up
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  Speaker 1: until over the weekend, sitting fat and happy, and they're
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  Speaker 1: a corrupt position within the military. Are they gonna well
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  Speaker 1: just give up and and and just roll over and
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  Speaker 1: play dead? Or might they if they're purest if they
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  Speaker 1: are really believers in the Socialist cause, and these evil
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  Speaker 1: American and perilousts coming in. Might they weighe some sort
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  Speaker 1: of perhaps terrorist or gorilla operation a La Fidel Castro
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  Speaker 1: in the mountains fighting off Batista complications abound? What did
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  Speaker 1: we bite off in doing this? But I have to
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  Speaker 1: joke around a little bit about this, because I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was It's really funny that Eric Adams, of all people,
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  Speaker 1: former Democratic New Romeric New York City mayor Eric Adams
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  Speaker 1: replaced by, yes, Nicholas Mudua. I'm sorry, Mondomni accused the
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  Speaker 1: Biden and Harris administration treating public safety as a political
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  Speaker 1: gain his words, because if you recall back in January
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  Speaker 1: of twenty five, before Biden left office, he increased the
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  Speaker 1: bounty on Nicholas Madu to twenty five million dollars. I
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  Speaker 1: guess it was previously ten million dollars. So we had
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  Speaker 1: an indictment he was. Madua was indicted in federal court
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  Speaker 1: for drug charges. He had an outstanding warrant for his arrest.
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  Speaker 1: Biden doubles down by putting a twenty five million dollar
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  Speaker 1: bounty on him. I guess he really wanted him. Is
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  Speaker 1: that Biden suggesting to well, maybe someone else will grab him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the US isn't gonna do the work of
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  Speaker 1: going in and grabbing Nicholas Maduro. But hey, somebody out
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  Speaker 1: there who's interested in grabbing twenty five million dollars. If
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  Speaker 1: your tip leads the arrest of Nicholas Maduro or his capture,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get twenty five million dollars in the American taxpayer.
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  Speaker 1: So interesting sort of trying to reconcile that public safety
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  Speaker 1: is not a political game, Adams Road. You do not
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  Speaker 1: label someone a narco dictator one year and then pretend
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  Speaker 1: he's no longer a thret threat the next simply because
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  Speaker 1: the different president is in office, right And what of
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  Speaker 1: all these protesters in the streets, anyone find it rather
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  Speaker 1: interesting suspicious that they immediately showed up after Maduro gets captured.
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  Speaker 1: They have flyers printed, They're protesting literally within hours of
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  Speaker 1: his capture. That's a well oiled machine floating around out
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  Speaker 1: there in the United States of America. And who are
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  Speaker 1: they supporting? A socialist dictator, murderer, thug, corrupt, criminal, drug
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  Speaker 1: dealer and financier of terrorist organizations. And the ripple effect
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  Speaker 1: on that one is rather profound too. China and Russia
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  Speaker 1: and Iran all playing quite nicely with the Venezuelan regime.
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  Speaker 1: What happens to them? Now? What do they do in
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  Speaker 1: response to this? See the pretext for all of this
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  Speaker 1: is the precedent that was set with Manuel Noriega. The
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  Speaker 1: criminal charges that he was engaged in criminal activity while
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  Speaker 1: acting as a head of state gets us around the
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  Speaker 1: sticky wicket of international law, because international law does not
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  Speaker 1: protect well in this case, the dictator who is engaged
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  Speaker 1: in criminal activity. You know, there are state actions head
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  Speaker 1: of state immunity is what they call it. But that
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  Speaker 1: immunity does not protect leaders who are engage in criminal enterprises.
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  Speaker 1: So once you've got that indictment from back in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: he has been under indictment since then for criminal enterprises,
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  Speaker 1: then all of this regime change kind of is a
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  Speaker 1: corollary effect. So you can accomplish the regime change by
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  Speaker 1: hanging your hat on the precedent from Manuel Noriega. Well,
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  Speaker 1: all we need is the indictment. We went through the
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  Speaker 1: whole criminal process, and I can break it down for it.
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  Speaker 1: What happened Manuel Noriega and all the arguments that Maduro
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  Speaker 1: is going to make in courts here in the United States,
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  Speaker 1: which is where he's going to be tried. But if
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  Speaker 1: you just stick with that and you focus on him
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  Speaker 1: being a criminal drug dealer, yes, you're gonna get regime change.
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  Speaker 1: Was that the forst and foremost thing. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Some say that was the reason Trump went in. But
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  Speaker 1: he has that hat or he has that hook to
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  Speaker 1: hang his hat on the drug or the drug indictment. Again,
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  Speaker 1: would served as legal president for this to happen, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it will be regime change. Yes, it will disrupt China's influence,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps Russia's influence, perhaps in South America. Yes, it will
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  Speaker 1: open up us to perhaps, I don't know, managing the
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  Speaker 1: oil resons there. We don't personally need the oil, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, Venezuela has more oil than anybody on the
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  Speaker 1: planet in terms of countries. Was that the motivation for this?
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  Speaker 1: Was it the oil? He says he's going to let
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  Speaker 1: the oil companies go in and you know, build back
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  Speaker 1: the system that they originally built that were taken over
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  Speaker 1: because they went socialist on us back when with the
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  Speaker 1: Chevista regime took over. So they confiscated American interest in
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  Speaker 1: American property, made it state interest and state owned at
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  Speaker 1: the time, which means oil companies may have a vested
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  Speaker 1: interest in going back in and tapping into the largest
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  Speaker 1: oil reserves on the planet. That remains to be seen
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  Speaker 1: whether they're willing to do that or not. But it
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  Speaker 1: was the criminal indictment and labeling him a criminal that
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  Speaker 1: provides the precedent for this and everything else that comes afterward.
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  Speaker 1: Love to hear from you, you've got something to say
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  Speaker 1: about it. Feel free helped me out this morning five one, three,
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  Speaker 1: seven fifty two three con Fi fifty on AT and
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  Speaker 1: T phone Extra Special Daniel Davis Deep Dive today about Venezuela.
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  Speaker 1: Retire Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis joins a program at seven
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  Speaker 1: to five to talk about that. I can't wait for that.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you can stick around fifty five KRC dot
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  Speaker 1: Com easier fifty five KRC DE talk station. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: went really long in the last segment, chattier than I
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  Speaker 1: thought I would be. My first day back to work.
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  Speaker 1: Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five eight hundred
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  Speaker 1: close of the last segment, Daniel Davis Deep dive that
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  Speaker 1: they would do a special edition with that. Really looking
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  Speaker 1: forward hearing what Daniel Davis has to say. Most notably,
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  Speaker 1: given the these layers of complication, we got Russia, Cuba, China,
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  Speaker 1: Iran all impacted by this, Yeah, shutting off. You will
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  Speaker 1: completely don't know if that's going to happen. We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You got to Venezuelan military component, as I mentioned. Are
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  Speaker 1: they going to capitulate? Are they going to turn sides?
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  Speaker 1: Are they gonna, you know, play play nice with the
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  Speaker 1: Trump administration? Are they gonna, you know, go off on
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  Speaker 1: their own and fight against this happening? There most assuredly
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  Speaker 1: will be boots on the ground during some transition period
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  Speaker 1: in the United States prepared to do that and wondering
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  Speaker 1: how you feel about it, most notably if you've young
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  Speaker 1: people serving their country in uniform and again saluted American
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  Speaker 1: military on that operation. Just absolutely amazing. Five to twenty
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  Speaker 1: five fifty five care Steve Talk Station Local Stories A
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  Speaker 1: stack of crime under the handwritten note from Joe Strecker.
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  Speaker 1: This is all the violence, murders and assaults in crime
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  Speaker 1: that happened while you were on break. Great, there's like
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  Speaker 1: nine thousand articles here from crime in downtown Cincinnati. Looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to having Andre you ain't talking about that as
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  Speaker 1: well as police chiefs got used from Hamilton Township, and
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  Speaker 1: of course Christopher Smithman, I'm sure you'll have a word
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  Speaker 1: to say about that as well. That's coming up in
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  Speaker 1: the morning show. We can stick around. Calls are quite
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  Speaker 1: welcome right now, be right back. This is try to
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  Speaker 1: make it a happy Monday and a very happy New
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  Speaker 1: Year today, everybody. I'll beg of New Year's resolution. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't do one this year. I typically don't, just setting
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  Speaker 1: myself up for failure. Away. I look at Neear's resolutions anyway,
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  Speaker 1: looking forward having George Brenham and the Keith ten Fell
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  Speaker 1: back on to do another rethink health together kind of discussion.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we can help each other along to maybe take
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  Speaker 1: control of our health and our diets and our exercise
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  Speaker 1: in the calendar year. Make it a happy, healthy twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six. So I went three, seven, four, nine, fifty, fight,
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  Speaker 1: two to three, talk fifty on the AT and T phone.
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  Speaker 1: One little news item that I could not avoid over
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  Speaker 1: the break, Such a sad thing New Year's Day shooting.
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  Speaker 1: Eleven year old girl was killed senseless act of violence,
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  Speaker 1: quurt to since I police queen, I Reread eleven years
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  Speaker 1: old ended up passing away at since a children's hospital
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  Speaker 1: courtA since a police shooting that killed Read happened near
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  Speaker 1: Laurel Playground, West Liberty Street and John Street quarter to
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  Speaker 1: seven pm. West End quite known for its crime. The
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  Speaker 1: West End is quite known for the crime. Is it
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  Speaker 1: a joe? I mean, do we have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: violence going on in the West End? And didn't they
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  Speaker 1: say something about cameras there was there were going to
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  Speaker 1: be cameras installed on the West End. Apparently not. Mayor
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  Speaker 1: after have provol issued a statement on Friday, after receiving
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  Speaker 1: approval from iris ROLI I imagine, offering condolences for Reath's
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  Speaker 1: family and full support for the police investigation. Well that's good.
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  Speaker 1: A mayor is actually supporting the investigation of the murder
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  Speaker 1: of an eleven year old. That's a bold statement from
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  Speaker 1: to have parvoll, isn't it. According to Intern police Chief
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  Speaker 1: Adam Henny Decked is working tirelessly to find the person
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  Speaker 1: who killed Reading the senseless act of violence. Three forty
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  Speaker 1: crime starers the number if you have any information on that,
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  Speaker 1: I knew. Corey Bowman outspoken on that one. But what
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  Speaker 1: of the promised security cameras are there not installed in
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  Speaker 1: the West End park where the eleven year old girl
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  Speaker 1: was killed, Corey Bowman, right down the street, because that's
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  Speaker 1: whereas church Is said, she was playing in the playground
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  Speaker 1: with her cousins of similar age and all she was
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  Speaker 1: doing was having fun at six o'clock in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: And it happened in the same locations where cameras were
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  Speaker 1: promised but never installed. This after eleven year old Dominic
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Davis was killed more than two years ago. What do
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: they do after that one? Apparently no arrests have been
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: made in that one. Either maybe MAYORFT have purvol didn't
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: support the full police investigation to the murder of Dominic Davis. Now,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it was just this past September, after the violence that
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: we all remember vividly that happened, you know, the beat
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: down in downtown Cincinnia Government Square. We got Sarah Herringer
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that well now moved out of town as a consequence
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of having her husband murdered in their own apartment in
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: over the Rhine. Oh, we're gonna get some help from
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the governor. Helped It apparently didn't last. They asked for
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: two days worth of help, they didn't accept all the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: government's help, and then after taking four days, they've just
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: ended it apparently, Thank you again to Signal ninety nine
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: for letting me know about that one. So what do
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: they do? Last September they passed a five point four
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: million dollar safety plan with one hundred and fifty thousand
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: dollars specifically allocated for cameras and lights in the area
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: that they had been promised for years, over in the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: West End park where the eleven year old girl was
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: killed on last Wednesday night. So if they had been
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: promised for years these cameras, did the financial allocation only
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: come this past September when they specifically earmarked one hundred
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars for those cameras that go in.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Clearly they had not been installed by New Year's Day?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: When will they be installed? And I'm not necessarily, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: a believer that the cameras are going to solve the problem.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Of course, they'll go a long way to finding suspects
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and bringing people to justice. Will they act as a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: deterrence to crime? Many people believe they do. Mean I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: always joke about criminals who go into convenience stores and
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: rob them at gunpoint and their faces aren't covered, and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you're like, dude, don't you realize that there are cameras
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: literally everywhere. Clearly it doesn't act as it to turn
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: in all cases, but at least she help helps you
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: find a bad guy. It might provide some comfort for
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the folks in West End who are dealing with a
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: lot of violence. The one person pointed out there's been
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: between thirty and forty people shot in the neighborhood. The
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: neighborhood only has sixty eight hundred residents, pointing out that
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the from a probability perspective is pretty damn bad. And
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the violence continues. A West End man got accused of
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: shooting a woman and two children on Christmas Day, arguing
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: self defense. James Brown, not that one fifty eight charged
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in Hamilton County Municipal Court with three counts of flonious assault.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: He showed up in court on the day after Christmas
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: for an arraignment. Judge Brad Greenberg set bond at nine
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. Well, there's a good one. That's a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: really am maarkable thing for Hamilton County. They say you
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: open fire on the woman as well as a fifteen
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: year old to ten year old, all shot inside a vehicle.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Thankfully non life threatening injuries. A fifteen year old to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: ten year old and one more here just from the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: other day. Woman was hospitalized her to being attacked with
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: a hammer in all West End apartment on Liberty and Lynn.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Victim's mom didn't want to be identified, I can imagine,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: said her daughter, Kyala Johnson, was hit in the face
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: with a hammer multiple times, leaving her unrecognizable. Man accused
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of the crime, thirty nine year old Anthony Jackson, now
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: charged with flonious assault. Pardon me and the weird thing
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: about it? Calls came in after ports from witnesses who
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: say they saw this female on a Facebook live stream
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: being attacked and assaulted by her boyfriend. She was actually
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: filming herself getting the crap beat out of her. But
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: for that and Joe's actually Joe saw the video, I
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: have no interest in seeing the video because I have
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: a feeling it would be a rather heartbreaking thing. Joe.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I can see the look on his face, and it
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was that and then some The attack lasted twenty minutes.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Jackson given a five hundred thousand dollars secured bond. And
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: it's weird because he has faced several charges of violence
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: over the past few years. All of those charges dropped
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: or dismissed. Hmm by thirty six five krs beat pukstation.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you just the biggest douche.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Of the universe, in all the galaxies. There's no bigger
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: douche than you. You reached the top the pinnacle of
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: doue dump. Good going, Douce, your dreams have come true.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Thank you Streker, perfectly time we'd be right back. But
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the stack is stupid. This is fifty five KRC and
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  Speaker 1: iHeart rate to you, and happy New Year to all
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and welcoming in New Year with a news stacker stuper
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: although with those local stories in there, they could probably
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: qualify for the stack is stupid, like this One eighteen
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: year old Minnesota man charged with punching a homeless woman
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: at the face of the Mall of America for a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: TikTok video that was his motivation. Vescot's alleged Cleve Brown,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: walked up to the forty six year old victim. She
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: was at a water fountain. Mall security video. Oh look,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: there's security video. Shocking recorded Brown punching the woman in
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the back of the head, causing her to follow the ground.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Cop said they weren't even sure if she lost consciousness
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: or not. Police Departman noted that these security officials identified
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the victim as possibly mentally disabled and that the assault
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: was bad. That was their words, okay. Brown and a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: group of unknown males fled the mall after the attack,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: were tracked to a jeep Grand Cherokee and detained Hmmm,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: court of the report. Cleve later told mall security that
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: they did that for a TikTok video. Brown explained to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the police that he tends to vlog and that's why
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: he was wearing quote, a portable microphone on his person
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: when arrested. Charged with fellow the assaulting disorderly conduct misdemeanor
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: for the December sixteenth mall incident. Saint Paul Resident also
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: on an outstanding warrant charging him with trespassing fleeing police.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Ye also in addition to that, has a pending case
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: for theft and obstruction.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Perio is the biggest douche of the universe, in all
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: the galaxies.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: There's no bigger douche than used. You've reached the top
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the pinnacle.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Of douche dum good going douce, your dreams have come true.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Societal de evolution with social media just had to observed
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that Pennsylvania woman who maybe you'll recall this one from
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a prior stagger stupid, that's the way vany. A woman
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: who defecated inside the beer cave and a Royal Farm's
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: convenience story has now been sentenced. During court hearing, Crystal Goss,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: forty seven, pleaded no contest to misdemeanor charge of disorderly
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: conduct that created quote a hazardous and physically offensive condition
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: close quote find a whopping seventy five dollars in order
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: to pay restitution of eighty dollars to the Hanover business.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Judge also barred her from returning to the store, which
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: is apparently a mile from her house. Arrested the last
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: April after Royal Farms worker called the police to report
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that an unknown woman head quote come in the previous
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: day and defecated in the beer cave close quote. A
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: police review of oh whoa, that's a lot of feces
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: apparently so and yes, there is surveillance footage which was
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: reviewed by police showing her quote pushing a case of
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: alcoholic beverages back on the shelf, pulling your pants down
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and defecating on the shelves then leaving as this tradition.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I love the reporting from the smoking gun on as
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the five pm bathroom break offered Gauze a little privacy
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: since quote doors into the beer cave and cold areas
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: are clear glass, providing a visual of the inside of
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the common area of the store. Workers however, didn't spot
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: her in the act. Well, that's why we have video surveillance,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: isn't it. In addition this orderly conduct, she was charged
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: with open lewdinous, scattering rubbish and colonel mischief. Those counts
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: withdrawn by prosecutors as part of the negotiated plea deal.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I think restitution of eighty dollars if you think that
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that offense is you know, if you're the employee that's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: got to deal with that, I would value that offense
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: at a little bit more than eighty dollars. In real
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: damages like psychological and emotional damages should go along with
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: that as well. Just a thought, maybe there'll be a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: civil suit. Five forty five fifty five care Seedy Talk station.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: It's a new year. How about little without Pain This
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six start Year Year Moving and KRC Deep
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• 29:08
  Speaker 1: happy one to you, don't forget fifty five carsee dot
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: comedy you can't listen to live. I've got the podcasts
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: of my guests today coming to beginning with special Daniel
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Davis Deep Dive at seven oh five on Venezuela, Christopher
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Smith Iman at seven twenty. I'm guessing he will maybe
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: make a comment or two about the violence in the city.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes coming up at seven
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: forty five his opinion on the violence over the past
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and Brother Ewing Brother Jay. He's coming
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to the studio at eight oh five and share his
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: thoughts in comments. I really enjoy hearing what he has
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to say on his Facebook commentary. He's outspoken human being
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and I enjoy getting his thoughts in comments here in
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  Speaker 1: the fifty five Cassee Morning Show, yours as well five
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  Speaker 1: on three, seven four nine, fifty five hundred eight hundred
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  Speaker 1: D two three Talk found Fi fifty on eight and
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  Speaker 1: t phones Not in the Stack is stupid but some
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: high comedy from Joe Strecker. Thank you Joe for giving
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: me a have tab parvolls January twenty twenty sixth calendar
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: every day of the month, fully four Thursday the first
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: get approval from Iris Rolli on his statement condemning the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: violence and offering thoughts and prayers for the murder of
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: an eleven year old in the camera Free West End.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Particularly comical in Joe's outline of the calendar protests Venezuela
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: on Friday the second, that will be the day before
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the military operation in Venezuela happened. So apparently AFTAB got
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: advanced notice. And you know, seriously toward that, is it
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: not remarkable? How immediate? And I mentioned it earlier in
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the hour that immediately these well prepared flyers and placards
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and posters just showed up, and all the organization of
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: protests in the street magically appearing. You don't tell me
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that isn't a well organized, well oiled, well financed left
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: wing machine going on out there. Anyway, From the fifth
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: of January all the way through the twenty ninth of January,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: it's listed as vacation. Oh that's right, I miss that. Yes,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: he's getting sworn in on the sixth. That'll be tomorrow,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: so he'll be there for that or a ribbon cutting ceremony.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: One of the two will bring him in town. You
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: got vacake. Vacation the rest of the time, and then
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: up on the thirtieth of January, make car payment. Thanks Joe.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Back in the stupid we go to Upper Darby, Pennsylvania,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: where a woman allegedly ran over her boyfriend with her
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: car on the sidewalk. This after an argument in the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Taco Bell parking lot. Why are you doing that, please? Said?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: The Guy's lucky to be alive. He had serious injuries
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: as a consequence getting run over. Authority searching for twenty
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: three year old Destiny Green connections with the domestic violence
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: violence incident happened on New Year's Eve again started a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Taco Bell parking lot after an argument between Green and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend. Man reportedly stepped out the vehicle and started
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: walking down the street gourd. To the announcement from the police,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Green then drove that is what we're looking for court
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: to police announcement, Green then drove her vehicle onto the sidewalk,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: traveling the wrong way, and struck the mail from behind.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Victim suffered injuries and is lucky to be alive. That
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: is the full statement. Joe, is there a wrong way
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: on a sidewalk? I mean you can go either way
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: on a sidewalk. I mean're not supposed to have a
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: car on a sidewalk. That goes with that saying. Anyway,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: let's not dwell on that. Police surge Green to turn
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: herself in. Ask anybody who knows where she is to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: give them a call. Don't do that. Let's go to
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the KFC, a Las Vegas KFC. I think that would
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: hold more true if it was a walmart anyway. A
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: man allegedly stabbed a Kentucky Fried Chicken employee after getting
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: upset over the gravy in his order. Thirty two year
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: old Jerald Carter and James Carter, forty eight, now facing
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: attempted murder with a deadly weapon this over gravy. Twenty
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: seventh of December Saturday, North Las Vegas police officers was
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: shut up at the KFC on Craig Road a reported
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: customer who stabbed an employee. Gerald Carter accused of stabbing
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the employee in the back and side several times. Officers
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: located the two men. Several other people walking away from
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the restaurant and detained him. While arresting Gerald Carter, officers
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: located a large knife in his pocket. Witness sa, Joe,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: is that a knife in your pocket? He's having to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: see me? Is that that Joe? Anyway? Jerald Carter, in
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: according to the witness, became upset about his gravy from KFC,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: asked to speak with a manager. At some point, he
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: believed quote staff had disrespected him. Just walk away. Hate
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: that argument, which escalated him and James Craig going after
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and going behind the KFC counter and fighting with the employees.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: While talking with police, Jerald Carter admitted of fighting with
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the employee, but denied stabbing anyone. Jerald Carter said the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: employee was calling him names and disrespecting him before the fight. No,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: both men detained. I know North Las Vegas Jail. It's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a tuesday, according to Las Vegas Justice Court Judge Jonathan Cooper,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: who set bail at one hundred thousand dollars for Gerald
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Carter and ten grand for James Carter. Oh, it's okay, though.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Should they postpond, the men will be required to wear
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: an ankle monitor. We all know how well that works.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Don't we Joe huh yeah, asked formerly of Over the
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Rhine and now no longer living in the area, Sarah
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Herringer about that gravy, what is your expectation when it
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: comes to KFC gravy in the first instance? Five six
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: fifty five care de Talk Station Brian Thomas back for vacation.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you for allowing me on vacation for a while.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Thanks to my family for such an enjoyable time off.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Seems like just yesterday, and of course the time went
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: went quite quickly. So maybe you got a new Year's resolution.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I haven't made one yet. Anyway, Do have listener lunch
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday? Yes, first one of the year mad Tree
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: sum at Park, Blue Ash location. It's gonna be a
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: lot of fun at least. I always enjoy the mad
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Tree location there and I always enjoyed the company and fellowship.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: We enjoy a listener lunch, So market down on your
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: calendar this Wednesday again, Blue Ash Slash Summit Park, mad
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Tree is the place to be about eleven thirty issues
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: no specific set time so the doors need to be
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: opened though. Anyhow, coming up with the fifty five CARECCE mornings,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: so let's move forward one hour with a special normally
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday at eight oh five retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Davis with a deep dive on Venezuela. Of course, that's
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the biggest news item that's going on this over the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: weekend and continues to be and will continue to dominate
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the news as the devil being in the details. Who's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: going to run the country, who's going to take over?
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Is going to be a peaceful transition? Will it be
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: guerrilla war waged by the event as well an army
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that's still around. God knows what's going to happen. Christopher
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Smithman is going to chime in, probably on crime, but
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I never do know what Christopher Smithman
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: is all about. But we do the Smither Vent with
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the former Vice mayor every Monday at seven twenty today,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: no different from that starting off the calendar. You're right
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: from my perspective. And then at seven forty five full
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: seven o'clock hour, Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes, he
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: will offer his thoughts and comments on the violence that's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: been going over the last couple of weeks during the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: holiday break, no rest for the weary. Hear in the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Greater Cincinnati area. Finally, Brother Andrea Ewing, Brother Dre is
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: going to join the program of DATO of five in studio.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Outspoken commentary from Brother Dre. So, I hope you enjoy
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: hearing from him as much as I do always enjoy
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: hearing from you. Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three talk found
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: five fifty on at and T fund I mentioned the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: pressent and for Manuel Noriega and anticipating what Nicholas Maduro
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: is going to be arguing in court. Now, I know
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that Democrats are now going to be forcing a war
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: powers vote to prevent escalation in Venezuela without congressional approval. Listen,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: if they want to exercise their right to do that,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: they can. And yes, I'm aware that Senator Ran Paul
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and Congressman Thomas Massey are critical of this actually having happened.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: They've read their Constitution, and I know Thomas Massey and
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: also Judge ended of PAULA Tana, who I'm really looking
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: forward to talking to on Wednesday, because I have a
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: feeling he's with Paul and Massey on this being extra constitutional.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: The president didn't have the authority to do this. Now,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: pivoting over to Nicholas Creole, who is a professor law
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: professor Georgia College and State University. Now, he broke this
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: thing down, and I thought he did a pretty good
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: job of it, because this is what we're going to
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: be arguing about. Daring. In the January third edition Wall
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Street Journal, Nicholas Creele Norriega, precedent for Maduro's capture and prosecution.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Critics calling President trump capture of Madua unprecedented and illegal
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: have short memories. He writes, We've done this before, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the courts blessed it. And this is the part I'm
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be interested in talking about Politan and Politano, about
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the courts do have blessed this? Let's walk through it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Go back to nineteen eighty nine December, George H. W.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Bush ordered US troops into Panama to capture Manuel Noriega,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the de facto military dictator, on what federal drug trafficking
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: charges he'd been indicted, just like Maduro, Noriega had been
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: indicted by US grand jury. Like the Venezuelan Operation, Panama
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: invasion occurred without congressional authorization. Hmm. Donald Trump taken a
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: cue from George H. W. Bush, and that nothing happened
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: when George H. W. Bush did this, and like what
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: will now happen with mss Mdua, mister Maduro Noriega was
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: forcibly brought to the US and prosecuted in federal court.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Noriega convicted and imprisoned. The legal frame work established in
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Noriega's case will directly govern mister Maduro's prosecution. Too bad
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: for him that the arguments we can expect his lawyers
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: to make have already been litigated and rejected by federal courts.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: The factual parallels between the two cases are striking, he writes.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Operation Just Cause began December twentieth, nineteen eighty nine. US
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: forces struck multiple targets across Panama simultaneously looking to capture
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Noriega and restored democratic governance. Does sound familiar, doesn't it?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: So Noriega went into hiding. The US found that he
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: had taken refuge in the Vatican diplomatic mission. You may
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: remember this. US troops surrounded him and just blasted Metallica
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and all kinds of rock music, trying to wear him
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: down and prevent him from sleeping. So finally he did
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: surrender January third, nineteen ninety flown into Miami to face charges.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: He was indicted in February of nineteen eighty eight on
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: charges of racketeering, drug trafficking, and money longering. There's your
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: criminal element. Specifically, he was alleged to have allowed Columbian
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: cartels to use Panama as a cocaine transit point and
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: facilitated the laundering of drug money. The indictment further contended
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: that he received millions in payoffs from the med Yen
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: cartel for his assistance with their cocaine smuggling operation. Noriega's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: defense team made several legal challenges, which you can expect
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in the upcoming Maduro trial. The courts shot them all down,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and what was arguably his strongest defense, at least in
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the analysis of mister Creole, Noriega's lawyers argued that he
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: enjoyed head of state immunity. This would be your international
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: law people screaming about international law international law. Courts didn't
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: buy it. They concluded this immunity does not protect leaders
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: who are engaged in criminal enterprises, pointing out that the
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: immunity exists to facilitate diplomatic relations and protect official state functions,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: but not to shield drug traffickers. Noriyega's rug trafficking was
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: seen as clearly private criminal conduct, not an official government act.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Now I understand the rationale behind that. This distinction between
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: official acts deserving community and criminal conduct deserving prosecution should
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: sound Familiar're gonna love this. The Supreme Court decision in
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Trump versus US from twenty twenty four established that American
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: presidents and joy immunity for official acts but not for
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: private conduct. Noriego court applied the same principle to foreign
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: leaders decades ago. I thought that was a rather comical
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: tie in on that one. So Donald Trump can't deal
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: drugs and make some personal profit off of it. That
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: would be extra presidential, having nothing to do with international affairs.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: He could be well tried and prosecuted for that. No,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: no allegations, and Trump's been engaged in that activity yet
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: wait for it anyway. Noriego also argued his forcible military
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: of violated international law and the Panamanian government's sovereignty, thus
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: depriving courts of jurisdiction. That one also shot down in
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the American courts. In rejecting that argument, the judges cited
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: an an eighteen eighty six case going way back cur
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: versus Illinois, in which the justices unanimously held that even
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: forcible abduction does not strip courts of jurisdiction over defendants
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: who are physically present in court. The judges refused to
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: examine whether the military operation violated international law, saying that
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that is a non justiciable political question. Wow huh. Doriga
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: trying to claim that drug trafficking was in fact a
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: political offense that was intertwined with his governmental role, The
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: court shot that down, said that drug trafficking is universally
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: condemned criminal conduct, not political activity. The political offense exception
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: to extradition applies only to act committed to achieve political objectives,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: not crimes committed for personal profit while holding political office,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: which you know I wrote down China after that, if
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: China's making all the priestcursor ingredients for fentanyl, and it
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: is part of their strategy to undermine the United States
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: of America, that will be a political objective. Here, Let's
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: get the United States all whacked out on drugs that
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: will help us achieve our political objectives. Humph. So if
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: a jiji iping doesn't take profit or money, from the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: sale of fentanyl precursors. Then I guess he's free from that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Just contemplate that one, because you know that may be
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: phase two or four or nine down the road in
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: these in these actions by our government, I don't know anyway.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Noriegu's defense also argue the Posse Kamatatis Act generally prohibiting
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: using military forces for domestic law enforcement, barred the operation
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: that nabbed him. The court said, no, that act doesn't
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: apply to military operations in foreign countries, will only apply here.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: His defenses failing and failed. Noriega ultimately convicted on eight
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: counts of drug trafficking, racketeering, money laundering, sentence of forty
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: years in prison, ended up serving seventeen and then got
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: extradited to France. He he points out, like Noriega, Maduro
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: faces federal drug trafficking charges again, that's the lynchpin for
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: all this. Yes, we've done it before. He's committing crimes
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: in office that are unrelated to political action. That is
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: a justification to arrest him. That it will result in
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: regime change, the disruption of Russia and China's influence perhaps
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: in South America, that it may result in American oil
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: companies taking back what was stolen from them from the regime.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Those are all secondary. They could have been the primary motivations.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: But because you've got this indictment against the guy, and
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: because we've done this before and he was in fact
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: committing crimes in office for his own personal benefit, all
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the other things sort of step in place behind that. Oh,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: goodie will also get regime change. He will also interrupt
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the relationship between China and Manuel and Nicholas Maduro and
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Russia's influence over there, and Iran as well. Those all
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: may have been the primary motivations to do it, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: they are secondary to the legal reality that apparently we have,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: that we can go out and arrest a drug dealer
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: who happens to be the head of a nation anyway,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: like Noriega. Maduro facing federal drug trafficking charges. Like Noriega,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: he was captured through military operations conducted without congressional authorization.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Like Noriego. He'll surely argue he had a state immunity
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: an unlawful seizure. But unless courts are willing to upmend
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: clear president, none of these defenses will save him. That's
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to hearing what Napolitano says. Maduro's
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: prosecution therefore legally unassailable, at least according to mister Creole,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: law Professor, Georgia College, because it because it uh not
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: because it breaks new ground, but because it so closely
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: follows a thirty six year old template for the federal courts,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: which have already validated this. Critics may object on policy grounds,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: but the underlying legal framework for mister Mduro's criminal prosecution
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: is well settled. The Noriega president controls, and under that precedent,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: mister Maduro will stand trial. So there is the well
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: addressing the arguments against Massey and Senator rand Paul. And
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing, and I don't think I'm going on on
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: a limb on this what Judge of Poloton Is probably
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: said to Tom and al. You guys are up next,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Hold on for a second, if you're right back. I
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: want to mention plumb type plumbing, which is always plumbing
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: done right. My favorite by Garcie Decalk Station Monday, try
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: to have a happy one five, one, three, seven, two
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: to three talks of post. We'll start with Tom. He's
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: got a comment about vetters. Well, Tom, thanks for calling
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: this morning, and Happy Monday to you, sir.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Happy Monday to you.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: I'm glad you got over that flew.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: I couldn't take any more pass rerun shows.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, Man. It sucked. I am telling you, man.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: It was bad all the way through our family and everybody.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Every time, every time I talk to somebody over the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Christmas break, everybody was struggling with it. So it's a
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: real it's a real problem out there. Lots of articles
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: about that flu going around as well, and they got
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: they keep telling people to get the flu vaccine. They
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: got the wrong one this year. I just want to
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: let me know that they picked the wrong one. So
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: good luck with that. I'm sorry, Tom, you got to
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: talk about that.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: So what happens if Noriega he gets at a luxury
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: jail cell that Jeffrey Epstein has and he doesn't walk
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: out of there again, that's a possibility.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, Maduro, Yeah, I mean, I know what you met,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: but you know, that's certainly a possibility. I'd like to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: think that won't happen. Considering the entire world is paying
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: very close attention. Some people are very supportive of what
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: we did, some people are against it, and you know,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: but the focus of the world is directly on his
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: detention in America's prison. So I'd like to think that
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: the level of scrutiny that they're paying attention to in
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: his prison cell is a lot higher than Epstein's just saying.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Although although my pattern observer friend Maureen, you know, I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: was gonna bring you up send me emails this morning
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to let me know that the shoe is gonna drop.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Bombshell confirmed Venezuela and bombshell intel drop. Narco General Hugo
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Carva Hall confesses CIA knew about election fraud US senators
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: funded by Narco regime. Well, I told her I keep
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: my popcorn out on that one. But she apparently is
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: circulating a list of all these US senators who apparently
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: received money directly from Yeah, I guess Maduro, the funding
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: has run out to the extent that it's true. Let's
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: see what Cleveland Al's got. Cleveland, Al, Welcome back and
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you, sir.
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: Happy New Year to you.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: After you mentioned New Year's or resolutions that I bring
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: up a couple of points. First of all, after turning
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: sixty nine earlier in the month, I decided, you know,
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: what for this year, I'm going to give up all
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: of my bad habits. But in the end I remembered
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: what my father always told me that nobody likes a quitter.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So might I interject Cleveland, But bad is subjective, right,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Just don't label whatever you say is a bad habit,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: does it?
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: No?
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy that it's not a bad habit, and
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: it's no longer something that needs to be eliminated from
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: your list of things this year, just saying.
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: Yes true. And then secondly, you know, political promises are
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: an awful lot. Like New Year or resolutions, they're in
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: one year out the other. I will leave it at
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: that and hope you have a wonderful day and welcome back.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you, al I truly appreciate it. Yes, I did
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: enjoy the time off, but hit the ground running this morning.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I have went five on three seven four fifty five
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: hundred eighty two three talk found five fifty on AT
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: and T phone. You know it doesn't get rid of
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: the stench of politics. I've mentioned that a million times
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: before in jest. But older egg happy one till five
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: on three, seven fifty five hundred two to three talk
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  Speaker 1: to f fifty on at and t phone before get
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: some local stories. Oh look who's on the line, My
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: pattern observer friend Maureen. I the foind that I mentioned
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: your name, Maureene, you might give me a call this morning.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Welcome back and a happy new year to you.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Happy new year, Brian. You know I I sound like yeah,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I love you too, and I appreciate the time you
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: give me to sure to tell about my patterns. I've
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: been served, but I do. I know I sound like
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: a broken record, but I'm going to say it again anyway,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Like when I called in after they were taking out
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: the narco trafficking voats. Yeah, I said. This is also
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: about bringing to light the role that Venezuela played in
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: the election interference in multiple countries, seventy two countries to
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: be exact. And I know Lou Dobbs brought it out
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and six. He talked about smartmatic machines
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: and the dominion machines and how it's all going to
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: tie to Venezuela, which was used as a proxy for
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: other countries like China and Cuba and Columbia, different things
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: like that. But that'll all come out, and I don't
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: think anything's going to happen to Madua like supposedly Epstein,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: because he's going to be the star witness in his
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: own trial to bring out all the information about these
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: voting machines.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: So he'll implicate, he will, he will be willing to
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: implicate and admit to the reality of what you're suggesting.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't have a choice. Yeah, he will bring
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: it all out. And President Trump has noticed if you
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: notice his truth on social posts, ever since they take
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the extradition of Maduro, he has posted NonStop about the
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: election fraud. It's going to come out. He's Maduro is
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: going to be the star witness and bringing that out.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: And the second person that's going to be the star
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: witness is Tina Peters. I mentioned her, I think a
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: couple weeks ago when I called in. People need to
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: look into her. She's the seventy year old woman, gold
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Star Mom. She's been in prison for a year and
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: a half because of what she tried to bring out
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: in the Californa or the Colorado mess. Colorado, she was
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: the county clerk and she noticed as a discrepancy on
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: the machine, so she had pictures that I told you
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: all about that when I called before she's going to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: be Trump pardoned her, but Pelosi and Colorado won't let
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: her go. So there's going to be a real stand
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: us there, and people need to pay attention to her
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: name because that's going to bring out some really big
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and interesting things.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, in so far as the allegation swirling around these
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: voting machines and the interference of American elections, I am
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't read the entire criminal indictment, but Madua has
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: been indicted for drug trafficking. That's the crime that he
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: was engaged in. So how is it that you would
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: parlay a criminal trial into an investigation or parlay that
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: into some way getting him to admit that there's maybe
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: election interference in connection with dominion voting machines. How does
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: dominion tie into drug dealing?
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: It's all tied together. It's allfol well just saying it.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: But obviouly I'm looking at it from a lawyer's perspective.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: How does evidence get introduced in a drug trial? Boiling
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: it down to the simplistic terms, to a whole conversation, investigation, prosecution,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: maybe in connection with voting irregularities or dominion voting machines
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: being tampered with, are capable of being engineered to rig
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: the outcome of elections.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: The money, it's all about the money and the cartel money,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: the drug money. It funds all of this voter fraud,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: and it's all tied together through the money. And the
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: most what's more valuable in counterfeit money is a counterfeit ballot.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: That's a counterfeit ballot because then you can put whoever,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: whatever rogue cartel leader you can put in and install.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: You can do that through a fake ballot. So that's
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: why it's more, you know, it's more valuable. And fake
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: money and counterfeit money is a counterfeit balant, and that's
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: why all this is so tied together. But the drug
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: money is used to buy off people in countries, Senators, congressmen, whatever.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: FUN terroristskin to get into that list. Yeah do I I'm.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I said, And FUN fund terrorism and terrorists resolutely.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Well that's the big See, that's a really interesting thing
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I find about this whole the ripple effect on all this.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: You think about Israel and the United States war action
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: against Iran, we blow up the nuclear facilities, et cetera.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: They're kind of on the back of their heels. They
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: have been a sanctioned to the point where their economy
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: is literally collapsing around them inflations through the roof, people
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: are rioting in the streets. The money going into terrorists
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: like Hamas and Abala has been dried up from Iran effectively.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I know Venezuela is also got its massive economic problems
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: given the sanctions on their oil cracked down by Donald Trump.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Their flow of cash is eliminated. Not quite sure how
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Russia and going to react to all this, but clearly
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: this also is a mechanism to get some stability in
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: South America and prevent it from further influence by China
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: and Russia, which they were really working hard to get
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: more influence in South America. So lots of additional things
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: can come from this. So I agree with you, probably
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: just the tip of the iceberg. But I'm going to
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: be patiently waiting with my popcorn out to see if
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: you can parley this criminal prosecution into something that's revealing
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: about the other elements you refer to this morning. I'm
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: not denying it. I'm just saying I'm waiting to see
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: how it all works and how it all gets brought.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Out it will, and then Venezuela is going to come
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: out great on the other side of this.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm not going to bet great worry.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: We're not placing a bet on this one. I'm just
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: going to let this go and well, I hope you're right.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I hope this all does come out, and I hope
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: we all get I get to say, with a big
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: grin on my face, Marien was right, that's what I
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: want out of this. But I'm not prepared to say
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: it yet because I haven't seen the You know me,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer. I just gotta go with what I know.
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I'll give you time. I'll give you time a few
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: years last time. I know.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for your your patients and
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: you're You're always keeping me on the cutting edge of
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: your pattern observations. I truly appreciate our friendship. Maureene, love you.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I have a happy New Year. Six thirty six. Looks
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: like Keith net Keik's got a comment about Venezuela. I
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: can't wait to talk to you, Keith in a very
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: happy New Year to all. Reminder Wednesday Listener lunch first
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: one of the year, not a whole lot of time
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: to point it out for folks. But we have Mad
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Tree Brewery, Summit Park, Slash Blue Ash. It's a good place.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: We've been there before and I always look forward to that.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: So Wednesday, the start of twenty twenty six, listener lunch
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: over to the phones. I got Keith on the line. Keith,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling this morning. Welcome to the
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Morning Show.
• 56:46
  Speaker 8: Hi, how you doing.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I'm okay. You know, you ever notice when you get
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: done with vacation, you feel like you need a vacation
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: from your vacation. Yeah, yeah, there you are, that's me.
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: I look, these democrats are hollering and screamer about what
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: Trump did with Padua. Thank god, these goofballs were in
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: power hundreds of years ago when Jefferson orchestrated the Fabus
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: frigate fleet to attack the Barbary pirates. Heck, these nuts
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: would impeached Jefferson over that. I'd be directed crazy.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I you say the word impeachment, but is
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: that really what's going to happen? I mean, I was
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: looking at Chucky Schumer's comments about this. They're going to
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: see if they can do a war powers resolution or
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: at least you know, bring something up in Congress to
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: sort of restrain Donald Trump and his military action in Venezuela.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: You know, if he's going to do regime change or
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, then he's going to
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: need some sort of congressional approval, and he has every
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: right to move that forward. They also had they had
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: one of these in November on a similar war powers
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: resolution because the Trump administration had been planning ground strikes
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: in Venezuela. He made it. He projected this for months
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: and months. I mean, hell, the entire fleet was down
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: there surrounding it. We of course did the military blockade
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: of the sanctioned vessels. It was in evident, Well, this
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: is going to happen. He even gave me Duro a
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: chance to step down. He didn't do it. So what's next.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: We got to go in and grab Ma Dua and
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: put him under arrest for drug trafficking. But what happens?
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: What if Congress does not like they did last time.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: That vote in November failed forty nine to fifty one.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: So even if they do vote a war power resolution,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: that might provide some restraints on Donald Trump. But if
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: they don't, what's the next step. I mean That's where
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I find myself in a sort of a constitutional struggle.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Congress has the power to declare war. Now, the War
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Powers Act may be unconstitutional, though it's never been tested before.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: At least that's something else that you can do, which
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: seems to be lesser than a declaration of war. But
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: it gives the president a certain amount of leeway to
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: engage in military activities. So if they pass one, then
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: he'll be subject to certain parameters, I presume, pursuing to
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: the War Powers Act. But if they don't pass anything,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: what's the next step. Are they going to try to
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: impeach him? I mean is and do they have the
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: votes to do that? I think the answer is a
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: resounding no. They might move forward to try to impeach
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: them because they claim he violated the Constitution. But again,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: you've got this precedent going after Manuel Noriega. Bush wasn't
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: impeached for doing that. He didn't have a war powers
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: authorization to go in and grab Nicholas mad or to
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: grab uh Manuel Noriega. So is there is this an
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: impeachable offense? If Congress refuses to act to limit Donald Trump?
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: It's complicated, isn't it.
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: It's ridiculous.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean he had the legal right to do.
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: This because of declaring Manuro doctrine. I mean, don't they
• 59:44
  Speaker 9: realize that years ago that stuff was uh what to
• 59:49
  Speaker 9: call it by Congress? You know they Yeah, okay, Monroe doctrine.
• 59:55
  Speaker 9: I mean, he had a legal right to do all
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: this because of the Monroe doctrine without a dectorally war.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not quite sure that that's the case either, Monroe,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: doctor President Monroe.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and you know, look at what all we did
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: in Cuba during the Spanish American War, you know, I mean,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: and unders of the Dreau doctrines. I mean, we had
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 9: no other choice. Trump had no other choice. He had
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: to do something about this nut.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not clear enough of my history with the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Spanish American War to know whether or not that was authorized.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I kind of get the sense that it was at
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: least authorized, And I do believe there was a tax
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: that we played on our phone bills to finance that
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: particular war. Don't get don't quote me on history on that. Again,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I'm a bit fuzzy on it. But yeah, yeah, I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: know you but let us I mean, let me just
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: look at from World War two forward. How many military
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: conflicts We've been in? Lots of them, right, lots, and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: we drone strike individuals. We've blown up American citizens abroad,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: We've blown up dictators, We've fired missiles and various countries
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and killed people. Bill Clinton blew up an aspirin factory.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Remember to take attention away from his Monica Lewinsky troubles.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: We could go on and on and on factory. At
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: what point does does something somebody stand up and say no, no,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: we're putting our foot down, or will we continue down
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: this road? And I believe it is expedient to allow
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: president a lot of leeway on this. But when you're
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: dealing with war and you're putting American lives at risk,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: and you're putting American military hardware at risk, and we
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: have a limited amount of American hardware left, I mean,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: it's very very complicated. How much Let's just ask out loud,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: sort of rhetorically, qua asking how much authority does a
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: president have without congressional approval unlimited? I don't know. We
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: seem to be in a very gray area right now.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Keith.
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  Speaker 9: That's I agree, and you know what you might take.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 9: I'm crazy, but I hope we take out Columbia and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: Cuba too after this.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Well, they may be moving away from Columbia. Cuba may
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: very well fall on its own because they are starving,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: they are currency lists, they are They're just basically a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: failed nation state. So you can just watch that one
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: perhaps implode upon itself. I don't know, but yeah, Donald
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Trump is making broader threats in the region generally speaking.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: See what I did to Maduro. You may be very
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: well next. So let's step up and play nicely together,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: or we're going to be sending in the troops for you.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: That is certainly a message. Donald Trump has not pulled
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: any punches on projecting. Can he do it? That's the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: big question that's swirling around. Keith. I appreciate it, man,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I really do. And I wish I knew my history
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. Take this kind of questions on
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: the fly. Do you know history better than me? Please
• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: of course on Venezuela Smith a minute seven to twenty,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: we'll hear from police Chief Scott Hughes from Hamilton Township
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: on his opinion about all the violence been going over
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks and brother dre andre Ewingen
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: studio at eighth five violence. I'm certain we'll be at
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: the top of his list of things to talk about. Anyway,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: real quick here local story didn't get to but since
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: a police secret service agents responded to since Andy home
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: of Yeah Vice President jd Vance. Story broke this morning
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: right after the mic came on. Thank you to Fletcher
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: keel Over at Channel five for reporting. Anyways, we've got
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: some local reporting. Looks like there's damage to the windows
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: of one of his homes. Peers as someone like maybe
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: have thrown rocks or something. Officers are on the scene
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: at his East Wannut Hills house for several hours, going
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: in and out. Please say a police could there could
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: say only that they do have a suspect. But as
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: of the reporting not clear if the person is in
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: custody what they're charged with, and Secret Service agents say
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: the statement will be laid made later today, sometime this morning,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: so we had a little more details on that. He
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: wasn't even at home. He was in Cincinnati over the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: last week, but he left yesterday afternoon, so I'm not
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: quite sure what was trying to be accomplished by that.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: It's just so damned childish, so damned childish. Anyway, real
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: quick here, going back to the Democrats trying to force
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: a war powers vote to prevent escalation in Venezuela, of course,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: led by Chucky Schumer. He's saying he's hoping that more
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Republicans will vote to reclaim congressional power to declare war,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: which I think is a funny kind of statement. Reclaimed.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: This is that gray area we find ourselves in in
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the period of time after World War Two, where prior
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to that we used to make war declarations and since
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: then we've just kind of played fast and loose with it.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: But the vote previously when they tried to rain in
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Trump at least in so far as get ahead of
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: his efforts in Venezuela again failed forty nine to fifty one.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: In the Senate, Senator Ran Paul Kentucky and Lisa Murkowski
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: joined with Democrats to tried to, you know, put in
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: place something like that, but it didn't work. So the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: strikes are launched. We captured Nicholas Munder and his wife.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: And if they don't pass something, and can you I mean,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I appreciate what weird political times we live in, but
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: do you think that the Republicans are going to oppose
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Trump on this? And so I'm gonna guess know so
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: that the same vote will come out along the same
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: lines that there won't be some you know, war powers resolution,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: some limitation placed on whatever further activity is going to
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: be involved in Venezuela. And there will be a lot involved.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, Donald Trump even said it out loud that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: we the United States will in his word, run Venezuela
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: until there can be a proper transition in a new government.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: That is going to require boots on the ground. And
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: he said, yeah, listen, we're not afraid of boots on
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: the ground. We don't mind saying it. We're going to
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: make sure that this country is run properly. We're not
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: doing this in vain. You can say the motives are
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: all pure and good and all of that. We don't
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: want Venezuela to go into to a state of complete disarray.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: We liked them to get their act back together and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: make the happy, the citizens happy again like they used
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: to be before the socialists took over. So I suppose
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: if Congress was unified, they could pass war Plowers resolution.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think that will happen. There is the power
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: of the purse. Since they do control the purse strings,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: they could I suppose limit the military, limit the funding
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: of the American military, and prohibit them from spending any
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: money on operations in Venezuela. That will require similar Congressional approval,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: and to the extent they passed legislation along those lines,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I think ultimately that might land on the President's desk
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: to be signed into law. Doubt that's going to happen,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: and I doubt there's enough votes to override a presidential veto.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: So that's not going anywhere, which leaves us where right,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: That's my outloud question. Generally speaking, I'm puzzled as to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: where that leaves us. And you know, I was. I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: saw an article going over to New York City Zoran Mondami.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: He and just a theoretical exercise here, He's called Benjamin
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Nett Yahoo a war criminal guilty of the crime of genocide. Now,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: if there was an indictment that have held that, then
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: if Zoron Mondami was president of the United States of America,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: does that mean he could go in and capture Benjamin
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: net Yahoo and to bring him a trial here in
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: the United States. I think that's exactly what that means.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: So depending on who's sitting in office and how much
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: you demonize any one individual another, and I don't think
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: anybody really supplied how can you really defend Maduro He
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: stole the election. Everybody knows it that the un has said,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: so everyone is in uniform agreement to the guy's corrupt.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: He's also a massive drug dealer and a facilitator of crime,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: and the emptier of prisons in Venezuela who sent them
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: here to disrupt America's way alife? On and on and on.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: The guy is without question a miserable piece of excrement
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: as a human being. Difference of opinion depending on which
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: world lady you're focusing on. President Zoron Mondami. If that
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: day ever came and bring the flag out last person standing.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: He is of the mind than at Yahoo and basically
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Israel itself are worthy of I suppose some sort of
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: prosecution since he's labeled them responsible for genocide. This is
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: what worries me. Not necessarily right now, but what does
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: the future have in store for a president who's not
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: subject to any particular limitations with regard to the waging
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: of war. Point to Barack Obama, he blew people up
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: remote control. I wasn't happy about that when that happened either.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: It's just the world moves so fast and Congress obviously
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: is not in a position to react. How more than
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: half of them are struggling with trumped arrangement syndrome. Six
• 1:08:58
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• 1:09:00
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• 1:09:14
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• 1:09:19
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• 1:09:21
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• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: of matters involving war and of course, matters involving grabbing
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  Speaker 1: Maduro and taking him to be tried in federal court
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: in New York City. Welcome back, Daniel Davis Deep dive time.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: It's good to see my friend. Happy New Year. Let's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: start with that.
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  Speaker 10: Well, and thanks, thanks. I mean, we took a couple
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: of weeks off in the Holy Cow, a country was invaded,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 10: in a president's rike.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: We better not take off anymore. Too many things are happening.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I know, I couldn't agree with you more, sir. And
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: you know, part of me was really really happy that
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: all this hit the fan over the weekend, because after
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: ten days off, my brain ate really fire, not all
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: cylinders coming back from vacation, sir. So this really kind
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: of took the weight off, at least in terms of
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: coming up with a well, very interesting topic. And this
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: was beyond interesting. Let me first remark as I opened
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: the show up this morning, putting aside all of the
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: you know, political implications, the legal implications and what this
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: might mean for us and how long we're going to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: be involved in other things, we can talk about you
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: got to give the American military huge props for what
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was an unbelievable mission. I mean boom
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: boom in out, obviously well oiled, well planned, and clearly
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: we had some insight help within the Maduro regime. Yeah,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what it's going to say this.
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  Speaker 10: There's really two separate tracks to examine here, and both
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 10: deserve their own focus. And the first one is on
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 10: the military execution of this, and it was about as
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 10: flawless of a large scale operation as I have literally
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 10: ever seen in my lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's I think that there was when the
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  Speaker 1: the leader of Italy.
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  Speaker 10: Was captured by the Nazis actually s he was captured
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 10: in World War two, and they got him out of there,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 10: you know, an amazing snatch and grab back in World
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 10: War Two. That's about the only thing I can think
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 10: of that reaches this level of precision. And you're right,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 10: there's by all accounts, there was a double agent that
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 10: we had, involved probably multiple, probably not just one, but
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 10: definitely around the inner circle of the president. We had that,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 10: But even without that, the operation to go in with
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 10: f thirty fives to take out a lot of their
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 10: command of control systems, the communications systems, definitely the air
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 10: defense systems. They didn't have great stuff, but they had
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 10: usable stuff, and the F thirty fives were apparently very
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 10: significant in taking those down. And then of course there's
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 10: just all of the rehearsals that went in. I mean
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 10: you're talking everything from the strategic, operational, and tactical level,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 10: all the rehearsals that were done. There was apparently a
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 10: complete compound built from scratch at a rehearsal SIOTE at
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 10: some unknown location to where these snatching grabs were rehearsed,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 10: so it was like they had been doing it one
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 10: hundred times. So the opportunity to execute this with literally
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 10: no friendly loss of life and no loss of aircraft
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 10: and a complete total success.
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  Speaker 1: Of the mission by itself is just amazing. Now it's
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: the going forward component, which is the most complicating element
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: about all this. Donald Trump said, we basically are going
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: to run the country for some period of time until
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: I guess an election can take place till there's some
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: stability there. Devil's always in the details. But as you
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: and I have talked about before, and I hate to
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: pivot over to Russia and Ukraine, you know what happens
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: after Russia takes over whatever chunk they take over, there
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: are still loyal sympathizers to the Ukraine government, the idea
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: of sovereignty, and the idea that Russia is evil for
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: having invaded it. Those people represent a legitimate threat in
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: terms of you know, I think about Castro waging a
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: guerrilla war from the mountains. Maduro did have an army.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure where they were. I understand he
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: was being protected by Cuban forces, which I thought was
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: rather interesting. But they haven't disappeared as an entity. Are
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: they still loyal to his regime? Are they willing to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: be talked out of that loyalty? I know most of
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: them are corrupt. I mean, aren't these military people and
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: their hardware. Do they not represent a going forward threat
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: to the United States regarding whatever involvement we're going to
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: have there, because it seems pretty likely we're going to
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: have some boots on the ground there to maintain stability.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 10: Well, let's hope not, because that could go south in
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 10: a big proby a big fast and all this great
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 10: stuff that we just talked about could be completely lost
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 10: if we go down the path of putting troops there
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 10: and trying to compel and force our way into this
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 10: because that's where things start getting much more complicated. And yes,
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  Speaker 10: that's what I've been telling everybody. This operation to snatch
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 10: and grab was profoundly successful, but it didn't take out
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 10: the regime. And all these people who've been celebrating, Yay,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 10: Maduro's gone and we're free, and all this keeps saying
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 10: that's premature. Nothing has changed. The system itself is fully
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 10: in place, and we're talking about the system that was
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 10: under Chavez and then translated into transitioned into Maduro. All
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 10: those people that have, many of them, like the vice president,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 10: has spent literally decades of support to the to the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 10: top level. Now she's in charge. By now, I guess
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 10: acting President Rodriguez, the question is going to be, what
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 10: are you going to do if they don't just say yes,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 10: we'll do what you say, Because apparently Marco Rubio talked
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 10: to Rodriguez. Trump claims that she says she's gonna work
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 10: with this, but when she made a public statement, wasn't
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 10: quite that cooperative. And how could she be if she's cooperating,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 10: I mean, her own life could be at risk inside
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 10: of her country, So there are some big time difficulties
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 10: remaining in front of us.
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  Speaker 1: And no question about it. And you know that's that's
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: the part that's got me mostly worried. Now. The lynchpin
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: for all this. Some people are saying, no, Donald Trump
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: just won a regime change. Donald Trump just won to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Venezuela and oil. Those really were secondary the lynch pin
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: upon which whatever Donald Trump really really wanted out of
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: this or whatever you know, our State Department or whoever
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: CIA wants out of this can be accomplished. But the
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: lynchpin was that he had committed crimes. He was a
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: drug dealer, He had committed these illegal acts as a
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: head of a state. And that goes back to what
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: we went through with Manuel Noriega, very comparable operation. He
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: went through the entire legal process, made all the legality
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: arguments president can't do this, he doesn't have the constitutional authority,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: it violates international law, and the courts shot down all
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: of that. So if you didn't have this criminal indictment
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: hanging over his head, then you wouldn't have been able
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: to go in and grab him and bring him to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: New York City, right because he's the president of a
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: sovereign nation.
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  Speaker 10: Look I mean, we got to be honest. You know
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 10: that the law doesn't even matter in this point. We'll
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 10: say whatever we want. But there's I mean, you can't
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: say because our country had an indictment on it, that
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 10: we are justified to go get him, because then you
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 10: literally open that Pandora's box. In every country on the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 10: planet that has power can do the same thing to
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 10: their adversarias here.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: We have set that precedent.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 10: So to me, this is black and white. We wanted
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 10: a regime change. We wanted political control of the country
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 10: and physical control of the oil. And that's what's being
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 10: set up right now, at least that's what's being set
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 10: up as an exception or a desire. But as President
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 10: Trump said on I think it was an air force
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 10: one last night. He said, yeah, if they don't cooperate,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 10: if they don't do what we tell them to do,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 10: then we may go in there more. But I'm just
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 10: telling you, Brian, if we want to brag on how
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 10: good this snatch and grab was, if we have to
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 10: go in there and force anything on the ground, it's
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 10: going to get bloody big fast. And I'm just telling
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 10: you we don't have the force structure anywhere near sufficient
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 10: to actually compel the country to do anything that we want.
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  Speaker 1: This is a really bad situation, quite frankly. Well, and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: insofar as the Senators discussing a warpower's vote on this,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: they tried this last November to got shot down and
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: that was it forty vote. If they can't pass a
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: war powers resolution to say limit the authority or otherwise
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: control what we can and cannot do in Venezuela, where
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: does that leave us? I mean, the president's are basically
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: free to do whatever he wants. I mean, I've been
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: struggling with this sort of ever since I read about this,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: of what comes next and what if Congress doesn't do anything?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that you've had Seal And Lindsey Graham is the
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 10: biggest cheerleader of this. He's been saying and I actually
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 10: found something from twenty twenty last night where he just
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 10: holds that the nineteen seventy three War Powers Act is
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 10: not constitutional in his personal right opinion. That doesn't matter
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 10: what his opinion is. It matters what the rule of
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 10: law is, and the nineteen seventy three War Powers is
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 10: an actual law. The problem is, and he is right
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 10: in this regard presidents across the board have been ignoring
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 10: this for many, many, many years and many administrations. Problem
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: is with that is that you set a standard that
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 10: the law doesn't care. And so to answer your direct question, yes,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 10: we are in a place where the law doesn't restrain
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 10: the president and he is totally free to do what
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 10: he wants because he has the law, he has the
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 10: Justice Department, he has the Secretary of Defense or Secretary
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 10: of War. The courts are not going to intervene, it
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: doesn't appear. And because he has the house in the
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: Senate right now, there won't be an impeachment. No one
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 10: will compel anything, and certainly the Senate. So that means, yes,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 10: he is free to do whatever he wants with no constraints.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 10: And I'm just telling you that it's bad for America.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Well does that mean Supreme Leader Ali Kameni over and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: in Iran it feels like his life maybe in jeopardy
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: Why wouldn't he I mean, there's a lot of people
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 10: have to be concerned with that, and already our work
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 10: with the Israelis, they had already threatened that in the past.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: They have done it with.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 10: Hezbollah, with his leaders, many other leaders in other medium
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: sized leaders in i Raan have been assassinated. So we
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 10: just kind of opened up. Really, the Israelis have opened
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 10: up this Pandora's box, although you can I'll obviously say
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 10: that Trump did that in twenty twenty when he took
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 10: out Solomony with an assassination, attempt or execution. And this is,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 10: you know, the law of the jungle man. I mean,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 10: it's it's a lot of people are cheering today because
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 10: it's an objective that the US wanted, But I don't
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 10: see how this benefits our country. And I see how
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 10: it could be a really dark place to where the
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 10: rule of law gets shredd even further.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: And that's problem for all of us. Yeah, I just said,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: it depends on whose ox is being gord because Zorhan
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Mandami has declared Benjaminettannia, who a war criminal responsible for genocide.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: If there were presidents Zorhan Mandami, he could go and
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: do the same thing we did in Maduro, right because
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: he's been labeled a war criminal, right right.
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  Speaker 10: And that's that's one of the things that I have
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 10: been saying, is that you know, we want to defend
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 10: President Trump's justification to go after because we declared him
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 10: the Maduro a criminal and then died him at court,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 10: and that Yahoo is indicted in many countries as a
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 10: suspected war criminal, et cetera. And do you want to
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 10: say that any of those countries, if they have the power,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 10: that they can go and try and do a snatch
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 10: and grab on net Yahoo. I mean, some people may say, well, yeah,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 10: let them try, because you know Israel is not Venezuela,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 10: and they would not go. Well, almost certainly that's correct.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 10: But the president has been set and you know you
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 10: can't just you know, say all right, this one's fine
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 10: for us because we lock it.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: That one's not fine.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 10: That's different because well we lock him. But the problem
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 10: is that that's only as you just said, and the
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 10: eye of the beholder whose ox is gored, this is
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 10: just it's just not good for us.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just sorry. I'm just telling you, no, I feel
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: along the same way. I'm always looking down the road
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: at the next guy at the helm. And how this
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: would implate would have implications for every presidential administration from hereafter. Uh,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Daniel Davis gotta have you around to bounce these ideas
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: off of. And I appreciate you coming to the program
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: another twenty twenty six with the Daniel Davis Steve Dive
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: here on the fifty five KRC Morning Shore right love it.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Look forward to it, amen, brother, as do I. We'll
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: talk about the China Russia implications on this military action
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: maybe next time we talk, because that's that's another couple
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: of wrinkles in the Yes, it is big. It is
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: big thought to talk about there. Retire the Uenny Hurl
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: Daniel Davis find his podcast Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You'll
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  Speaker 1: enjoy that. I'll look forward to having you back on
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: again real soon and Happy New Year, Sir. Seven seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, Christopher Smithman waiting in the winnings for the
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: smither vent. First, get your car into foreign exchange. A
• 1:21:19
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• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: same segment. Thank God for it. I always enjoy having
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: the former Vice mayor of the city since say Christopher
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  Speaker 1: Smithment on every Monday at this time the event his
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  Speaker 1: spleen the smith Event. Happy New Year, Christopher Smithman, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the morning show.
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  Speaker 5: Happy New Year, Brian Thomas, and I hope you had
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: a RESTful I've been listening to your show, so I
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: know you had the flu. I know you've been going
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: through some things. But I'm glad to have you back.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: It's good to hear your I appreciate that very much. Yeah,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: we really wiped our whole house out. Everybody had it
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: and my mom was particularly hard hit and we're all
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: praying for her, and it took her a couple of while,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks to come out the other side.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Really really really wiped out. So anybody out there is
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: dealing with that flu issue, hang in there, lots of
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: fluids and try to get as much rest as possible,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: and if you can get some Tama flu really early on.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to get a prescription for that,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: and I was able to dodge that bullet just after
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: a couple of days. So anyhow might experts.
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  Speaker 5: Shout out to your mom and your bride and your
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: kids and you that you guys made it through. But
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: you know, as you know, the fluke is deadly. It
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: can be deadly, so it's nothing to play with. So
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: I'm glad your mom.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: Made it through.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks man. I appreciate that.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: Brother. Look, you're a girl dad. I'm a girl dad.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: There are a lot of girl dads out there. And
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm scrolling through in my news and I
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: see it. An eleven year old girl shot on the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: playground in the way. She didn't have a chance, man,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: she didn't have a chance. Here's a girl doing everything
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: she's supposed to do. She's playing, she's on a playground,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: she's out of school, she's handling her business. My understanding
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: is she's not in a school in our area. The
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: bottom line here is this shouldn't have happened. And there's
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: so many levels to this. Being a girl dad meaning
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: my daughter Camille, who goes to seat in high school.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: She's everything to me.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 8: She is the world.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: There's just something about a connection between a father and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: a daughter. My heart goes out to her father and
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: her mother. My heart goes out to this family. But
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: for a man, this sense of provider and protect her,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: I didn't protect my daughter. Ecologically, what that does to you.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: I can't get my arms around it this morning. So
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: there's the human part of this, the humanity part of this,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: where you have a girl who's on a playground, in Cincinnati,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: who's murdered right down by the FC Stadium. Now, what's
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: so crazy about this is that the West End community
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: has been clamoring for video, for cameras, for lights because
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: they had another child killed there in the last year.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: So the reality of it.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Is Dominus Davis was killed a couple of years ago.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: They've been promising cameras for that long.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: So two years ago he was killed, and they've been saying,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: here's city Hall, We're gonna bring you cameras. We're gonna
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: bring you lights, new lights, new cameras, and check this out. Dude,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: there was an election. There was an election in November. No,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: we're gonna deal with it. We're gonna roll up our
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: sleeves and deal with it. Because the West End or
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: should have known that Corey Bowman is right there, his
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: church is there, his coffee shop is there, He's vested
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: in the West End. They voted for this administration, this mayor,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: this council knowingly or should have known that they were
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: not providing those cameras and lights.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for this community, a promise that was made and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: nonetheless in the in the West End, which is where
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: this happened. After have Pervoll in the current administration, eighty
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: five to one hundred percent of the vote went their direction,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: eighty five to one. I'm looking at the chart Joe
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: printed out. Thank you to the Inquirer and Scott Ortman
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: for creating it so we know exactly what neighborhoods voted
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: and in what percentage, in spite of the fact there
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: was a lot of crime going on in the West End,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: in spite of the fact there were promised video cameras
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: that never showed up, the lights that never showed up,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: eighty five to one hundred percent Pervoll and the current makeup.
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  Speaker 5: So why is this relevant to your listening audience, Because
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: we if the cameras were there, we'd have video of
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: a car of a person, we would know, we'd have
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: an idea who shot her. We'd be chasing this person down.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: But right now we don't have the information that we
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: should have had. If council and this mayor and this
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: administration we're talking to Didney manager and all of them,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: they all have blood on their hands now, Listen. They
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: might not have been able to stop the shooter, but
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: in leadership, it's what you do. So two years ago,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: as you've educated me. I thought it was a year ago.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: Time goes by so fat. We had a young person
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: murdered there. The community asked for something, they didn't get it.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: We had an election. Now another girl is murdered there
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: still no cameras, no lights, no press conferences. Community. This
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: is what bothers me. And when we get back from
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: the break, I'm gonna stay on this because I have
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: a part beat to it, Brian that really gets under
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: my cross. I'm gonna connect some dots this morning.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you are, and it wouldn't surprise the Part
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: C and D on top of Part B will continue
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: with Christopher Smith of inventing his spleen as well he
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: should seven twenty seventh Station seven thirty one here at
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: fifty five kersee the talk station Smith event on to
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: part B of a multiparty breakdown of crime going on
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: in the greater Cincinnati area, most notably the West End.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: You know, there was apparently a fourteen year old that
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: was shot over the summer last year, same area, and
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: prior to that, the eleven year old Dominic Davis killed
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: more than two years ago. And then of course we
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: had this poor eleven year old girl innocent as the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: day is long killed by a drive by shooting. I mean,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: there is no explaining this. And I understand your point
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: of view from a father of a daughter, and I
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: get that man, but it's got to be so damn
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: frustrating that this person was so innocent, clean hands, and
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: yet her life was taken from her. You had more
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: to talk about, Christopher, you got the floor.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: The politics for me is you have so many African
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: Americans on council. Stay with me. I'm gonna go into
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: the pot of identity politics. Okay, they have a mural
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: in the front Black Lives Matter. You've got a black
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: city manager, you got a black vice mayor. You got
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: a black man who's chair of Law and Public Safety.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: You got black people all down there running all kinds
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: of stuff. Iris Irish ROLLI Paig getting over six hundred
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: thousand dollars a year, and you got an eleven year
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: old girl murdered and we haven't heard a word from them,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: No press conferences, No, here are our solutions. Here's how
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: we're going to respond to the West End immediately, starting today.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: You would think that Mayor Pirval would have his podium
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: down there putting the damn cameras up himself after the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: eleven year old girl is murdered, like the apathy, like
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: they have no understanding of the life that was snuffed
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: out and their direct responsibility of not finding them. It's
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: not the cops. The cops need help. They're neutering our cops.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: It when our cops do proactive policy. They're so worried
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: about the criminals and what's going to happen to them.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: We've got judges who are letting them out as suit
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: as we arrest them. And we've got eleven year old
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: girls getting murdered on a playground in the West End
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  Speaker 5: with no response from this mayor, no response from this council,
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  Speaker 5: and a West End community that eighty five percent of
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  Speaker 5: them voted for it, but they got a mural on
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  Speaker 5: the outside of city Hall that says Black Lives Matter.
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  Speaker 5: Let me tell you something, Brian Thomas, you are my
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  Speaker 5: white brother. You care more about Black Americans lives than
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  Speaker 5: they do. Yeah, they don't care. This is not on
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  Speaker 5: their radar. They're thinking about street cars. They're thinking about
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: FC and the stadiums and what should they do with
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  Speaker 5: District one, and how do they create some kind of
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: mall down there. That's like a like the yellow brick
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  Speaker 5: road all the way down in the city Hall. That's
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: what's on their mind. It's not on the people. It's
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: not on this dirty city as we drive around. The
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: trash that's everywhere anywhere you look. This is a dirty city.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: I travel like everybody else travels. This is a dirty city.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: We are turning into Chicago and New York every single
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: frea your day. And I'm sick of it. I'm sick
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  Speaker 5: of listening to people like Mayor Purreval who care nothing
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  Speaker 5: about the African American community with a mural on the
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  Speaker 5: outside saying black lives matter and our babies are being
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  Speaker 5: flattered in the street. And I have a right to
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: talk about this. I am African American. I have five children,
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  Speaker 5: I have a daughter that goes to see I care
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  Speaker 5: deeply about it. My daughter could have been in that park.
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  Speaker 5: We could have gone over to Corey Bowman's church, had
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: a great service with him, and my daughter could have
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: been in that park playing and she could be the
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  Speaker 5: one dead today. Wake up Cincinnati, wake up West End.
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  Speaker 5: This bothers me. You know, it reminds me of this song.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: You know it's called sending the country. You heard this
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: song the Crowns.
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  Speaker 1: Huh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It says it reads, are we up here? Mean here
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  Speaker 5: at last on the ground, you in me dah And
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 5: then the clown We've got clowns down there at city Hall.
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  Speaker 5: That's what we have, brother, we have clowns down there
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  Speaker 5: at city Hall that care nothing about African Americans. They
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: pimp us out every single day. The Democratic Party pimps
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: us out every time there's an election. Beneath the black vote.
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that. They break
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: every single promise. Then they spit in the face of
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: Republicans and Conservatives and independent and libertarians who actually care,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: who want to help, want people to say, hey, we
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: want to provide opportunity for you. We want to be responsive.
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  Speaker 5: I guarantee you if my friend Corey Bowman was the mayor,
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  Speaker 5: there would have been cameras there the next day. I
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: guarantee you If brad Winstrop had been the mayor, there
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: would have been cameras there already. The problem here is
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  Speaker 5: African Americans are confused. Lyndon Johnson put it together. He
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: said he was going to put a program together that
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: made sure that African Americans voted for Democrats for two
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: hundred years, and he did it. And we're sleep at
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  Speaker 5: the wheel when eleven year old girls are being murdered
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  Speaker 5: on playgrounds and you have a mayor and a council
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  Speaker 5: doing nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, Well tell you what I really wish you
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  Speaker 1: were a little more passionate about this, Christopher Smithman, Let's
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: bring it back for one more segment before we get
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  Speaker 1: to Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes with his opinion
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: on the violence of the past couple of weeks. One
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  Speaker 1: more with christ gab fifty five K the talk station
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  Speaker 1: seven forty one Here fifty five KRC the talk station
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  Speaker 1: one more and he is venting without question today, Christopher
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  Speaker 1: smitham of this with the smith Man. We're gonna hear
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  Speaker 1: from Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes in the next segment, Christopher, again,
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  Speaker 1: the floor is yours.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think the chief for his service and his
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: commitment and all his officers and all peace officers across
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: our country. But as you're about to interview him, I'm
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: going to switch and just say, you know, I want
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: to be clear. I support the administration for capturing Madura president.
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  Speaker 5: He's not president, he's a he's a dictator. And the
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: language is important because he stole the election. He wasn't
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: the president. There was an election of free election, and
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  Speaker 5: I assume that when that election happens again that the
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: rightful person will be elected in Venezuela. But what blows
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  Speaker 5: me away are these protests. It's hard to watch to
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  Speaker 5: these people that are walking around acting like all of
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: these people who are protesting around the world, not the country,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: Venezuelan's Cubans, Colombians, Latino people. The Latin community is excited
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: about the fall of this dictator because of all the
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: things that he has done. The murder, the rate, the prostitution,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 5: the drugs, the political prisoners. It's all insane in the
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: Western hemisphere, and we finally had a president that had
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: the kahunas to go in and shay, look, guy, not
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  Speaker 5: in my backyard. This is not gonna happen here. Columbia
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  Speaker 5: better worry about it. Mexico better worry about it. Cuba
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  Speaker 5: obviously is in trouble because their oil is going to
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: be cut off. Yeah, and you've got you've got a
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  Speaker 5: Cuban who's the secretary of State if you watch that
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: press conference, listen, he's not he is Cuban. He's saying,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna clean this up before I get out of here.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: So the reality of it is, and you already see
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: Cuban saying we want the fall of Cuba. We want
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: Cuba to be a free country. Here's what's crazy. What
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  Speaker 5: is going on with these people that are out here
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  Speaker 5: protesting holding flags from Venezuela. They're not Venezuela's they have
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: no hone. It probably couldn't even tell you where it
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: is on the map. But the reality of it is,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: they're out there saying the president did something that was bad,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: even though the super super super super majority of the world,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: including those who are directly impacted, are saying this was
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: a great thing. Are they listening, Brian Thomas, What the
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  Speaker 5: hell is going on? What am I watching on TV?
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: What am I missing when I see people out protesting
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  Speaker 5: saying this was a bad thing, This was a drug lord.
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  Speaker 5: There was an indictment. I've been listening to your show.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: This was an indictment the DEA. It was carried out
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: by the president. This man was pulled out of his
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: bed with his wife and going to be a rain
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: this morning for justice for his crimes. This is what
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: this was out. Nobody was killed. Our elite teams did
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: a great job. We commend the military and everything that
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: they did over the weekend. I'm just saying, I'm not
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  Speaker 5: talking about regime change. I'm not talking about oil that
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: Russia and China and Iran are down there taking anyway,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: anyway or anyway they're taking it. The reality of it is,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: this was a terrible guy, a dictator that we had
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: a warn out for his arrest. And I've been listening
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: to your show, Guy, I'm glad his buddy's in jail.
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  Speaker 1: Well got to remember though he was a Marxist slash socialist.
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  Speaker 1: He was there, Darwin for a long time on the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: heels of Chavez. It was one of those countries that
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: was held out as an example to be followed. Bernie,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: you know, Bernie Sanders like were all just praising about
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: the whole idea of the concept that going on there.
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  Speaker 1: Marxists are willing to overlook the crimes of their Marxist leaders.
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  Speaker 1: Look at Russia, the history of the murders that are
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: committed in the name of Marxism and socialists. It's happened
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: all over the world. They've killed more people in the
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: name of their ideology than any other ideology out there.
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  Speaker 1: They're not willing to hold their Marxists accountable for anything
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  Speaker 1: that they've done wrong, and I think that's where this
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: is coming from. So I don't know, Christopher, I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching the mayor of New York come out, damn it,
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  Speaker 5: and I tell you this is a very dangerous time
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: because it's so serious. You see Venezuelan's who are challenging
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: these protesters. I am worried that this is going to
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: turn into a toxic, violent situation because they don't know
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: what they're playing with. They hate the president so much,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: no matter what he does, no matter how successful he is,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: no matter if this was in the best interest. Meaning
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: Democrats just two to four years ago were saying they
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: want him out of there. Now all of a sudden,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: they're supporting him. They put a fifty million dollars back
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: on them, and ultimately this president went out and executed
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: what they said they wanted. Now they're out protesting saying
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: everything is bad. I'm just saying to Brian Thomas, this
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: is the complete insanity where people say people have this
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: derangement about our current president. You have to be able
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: to have sense and say when things you like are happening,
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  Speaker 5: it makes sense you should be out there commending him.
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  Speaker 5: You shouldn't be out there trying to destroy America, destroy
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  Speaker 5: our flag. I'm letting you know, brother, the Venezuelan people
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  Speaker 5: are so excited about the possibilities of their freedom. I
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  Speaker 5: hope it goes well. I pray it goes well. But
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: this was one hell of a step one balls. He
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: moved from the president, the executive of our country to
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  Speaker 5: go in and snatch this man straight out of his
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  Speaker 5: bed with his wife and bring him back to New
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: York and arrang him on Monday. And I commend this
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: administration for what they did.
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Smithing, always a pleasure hearing from me, and I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the passion behind your arguments and comments this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Love you brother, Love you two man. Yeah, Happy New Year,
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to another New Year conversation all year long,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: forty seven right now stick around Hamilton Township Police Chief
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  Speaker 1: Scott Hughes, considering the eleven year old got gunned down
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  Speaker 1: in a playground and since he's West End just before
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: seven pm, should never have happened. There is no justification
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  Speaker 1: for this. And to join the program. Who has got
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: some comments of his own, the Hamilton Township Police Chief
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  Speaker 1: Scott Hughes. Scott, I saw your post the other day
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  Speaker 1: and I'm glad to have you on the program this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome sir, and happy New year to you.
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  Speaker 8: Glad to be back, Brian, Happy New Year to you
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  Speaker 8: too well.
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  Speaker 1: Christopher obviously very passionate about his criticism of the administration
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati, and I know the residents of the
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: West End had been promised some cameras and some lighting
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: in this area for a couple of years. Only last
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: summer did they get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: financial allocation to do that. And yet, of course here
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: we are standing today, they have never been put in.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: But that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: as from I understand it, officers are stretched way too thin.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, Brian. This has happened at large cities all
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 8: across the country. I've had a couple of folks reach
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 8: out to me inside the city Cincinnati as an example,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 8: and you know they're they're telling me that you've got
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 8: three police officers showing up for a roll call.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 8: And some of the busiest districts in Cincinnati, you've got
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 8: you've got robberies that are occurring, and they don't have
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 8: enough police officers to establish primeters to try to catch
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 8: these bad actors after they commit these crimes. And you know, uh,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 8: but preventative, excuse me, we can we can prevent crimes
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 8: by being visible, right, you know, I was using analogy.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: Using analogy, what happens when you're driving up the highway
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 8: and you see a police car sitting in the turnaround
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  Speaker 8: in the middle the highway? You slow down?
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  Speaker 1: This the term right, Yes, I know that.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, think about it. Right, as soon
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 8: as you do, you slam on the brakes and everybody
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 8: slows down, and then you know that, and then they
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 8: resume after they passed the police car. Imagine if we
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 8: have police officers visible and in these locations, this eleven
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 8: year old kid is not dead, right, Uh, it's just
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 8: it's just something not going to happen. But when you've
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 8: got three officers showed up to roll call, uh, and
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 8: they're going from call to call to call, and then
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 8: when they do get calls, they don't have enough people
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 8: to handle the calls. That is a recipe for divaster,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 8: and unfortunately then you end up the situations like this.
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  Speaker 8: So this has happened all across this country.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Chief Hughes, we have obviously known about the lack
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: of police officers or the limited number. Our contingent is
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: still way below where it's supposed to be, and maybe
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be isn't even quite enough. The solution,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: obviously is to hire more police officers, lateral hires, of course,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: new police classes. That does take time. But if the
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: administration had the will, if you had a pro policing administration,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: one that understands exactly what you're talking about, more police
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: equals less crime, how quickly could we replace the contingent
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: of police officers? I mean, isn't that a logistical hurdle?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: It's almost insurmountable these days with all the criticism of
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: law enforcement generally, Yeah, you know, it.
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  Speaker 8: Sure is, And that is a big driving factor. You've
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 8: gotten morales, it's just absolutely crushed and a lot of
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 8: these organizations and these these men and women out there
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 8: in the uniform are doing what a buddy of mine
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 8: calls the hardest job in America. And they are doing
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 8: it with pride and honor, and they will. They are
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 8: willing to risk their lives for people that they've never met.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 8: But when when you're when you have locality locations that
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 8: are demonizing law enforcement, they're not supporting, they're not given
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 8: the resources that they need. It makes a job be
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 8: more challenging. And you know, I'm up here in Warren County,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 8: we don't have this recruitment issues because we are in
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 8: a pro police location. Case in point, there is a
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  Speaker 8: I'm sure you saw in the news this weekend. They
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 8: had a high speed chase that came through Warren County.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 8: Multiple jurisdictions involved, and jurisdictions up here. It took proactive
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 8: approaches in that pursuit and take these two individuals who
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 8: are not from Warren County as minunderstanding into custody and
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 8: they will be held accountable up here in Warren County.
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  Speaker 8: And it's just it's just amazing to me the difference
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 8: when you cross county lines and in some places state lines,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 8: just the and what's tolerant and what's not, and where
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 8: you have recruitment issues and where you don't have recruitment issues.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I think part of the recruitment issue problem could
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: be solved if the administration was more outspoken in favor
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: of police. The silence from the city is just deafening
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: when it comes to law enforcement and support of them.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: And you know, having Iris Rollie say what you want
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: about Iris Rollie, but she is not a friend of
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: the police department. She's been paying six hundred plus thousand
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: dollars years under contract as a you know, sort of
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: a subcontractor employee of the city. You're not an employee
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: of the city, but a subcontractor, so she's free of
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: all these nepotism rules and everything. But because of her
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: very prominent position and her close connection with f tab
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: Provo and the Vice mayor, that sends a message just
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: in and of itself that's the city is not pro police,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: and that to me would be a big step in
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: the right direction. Maybe get rid of her your thoughts.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so, I'm not familiar with her in particular down
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 8: there in the city, but I can tell you based
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 8: on what I've read and what I'm hearing, there's no
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 8: doubt that that's impact the morale. It's impacting the mental
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 8: women who are out there doing this job. It's certainly
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 8: going to cause hesitation. We have to be able to
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 8: proactively go after these these low level offenses. We know
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 8: there's a there's a ferry called broken windows policing to
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 8: target low up You know, if you target these low
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 8: level offenders, that's going to prevent these bigger cases from occurring.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 8: But again, when you don't have enough officers out there
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 8: to make the traffic stops, to stop and have conversations
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 8: with people in the corners because they're going from call
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 8: to call to call again, it's just this recipe for disaster.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 8: Like unfortunately we had a couple of days ago, you
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 8: have eleven year olds who are now victims because the
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 8: police officer's hands are tied, often by not their own doing.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: One can only pray that the murder of that eleven
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: year old is a straw that finally breaks the camel's
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: back of this anti police rhetoric that comes out of
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: our elected officials. Can only pray to God that we
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: get more police, and you know, maybe the answer is
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: offering them more money. Scott, That's one dangling carrot that's
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: certainly in the arsenal of options, isn't it.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 8: You know, those guys and gals down there. They certainly
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 8: are not ever going to be paid enough. That is
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 8: certainly going to help incentivize this. But I think more
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 8: important than that is they have to have the support politically,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 8: knowing that if they make a decision that's going to
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 8: be supported as long as it's right, not wrong, good
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 8: not bad. People are going to protect them. They're going
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 8: to have their back. They've got to be outspoken, they
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 8: got to be in front of us supporting these men
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 8: and women when they involve these situations. That's how you
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 8: That's in my opinion, that's how you improve it.
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  Speaker 1: Amen. And I'll tell you what I know. The members
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  Speaker 1: of the Cincinnia Police Department truly appreciate your support. Hamilton
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  Speaker 1: Township Police Chief Scott Hughes. Keep up the words of support, sir,
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  Speaker 1: and you're always welcome here in the morning show to
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  Speaker 1: comment on matters law enforcement. Happy new Year to you
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  Speaker 1: and appreciate your support of law enforcement and running a
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  Speaker 1: really tight shit there, my friend. Apparently a lot better
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  Speaker 1: environment for law enforcement than it is in the city.
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  Speaker 8: I appreciate it. Brid Again, Happy New Year, thoughts and
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  Speaker 8: prayers of the family. Eleven year old.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, Thank you, Scott. He's been a pleasure seven fifty seven.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, Brother Andrea Ewing, Brother Dre in studio, he'll
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  Speaker 1: be talking about crime Shibato six here of fifty five
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  Speaker 1: kr CEV talk station. A very happy Monday, tet, A
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  Speaker 1: very happy new year to everyone. Nice to be back
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  Speaker 1: to work. Nice to be firing on at least a
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  Speaker 1: few of my cylinders, and it is always great. I
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  Speaker 1: love this man, Brother Andrea Ewing would call him Brother Dre.
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  Speaker 1: You can find him online and Andrea Ewing. He is responsible.
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  Speaker 1: He's the founder of a Curse Breakers three hundred strong
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  Speaker 1: and death Row ministries. He tried to help some people
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  Speaker 1: dealing with the prison system to no longer deal with
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  Speaker 1: the prison system, to find solutions for these people to
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  Speaker 1: choose a better path in life. And in fact, former
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  Speaker 1: police officer was almost we round up. We'll call him
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: thirty year veteran since I an police officer, so he
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: has been there. He's done the hard work that we
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: were just talking about with Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes.
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  Speaker 1: He knows how bad things can be, he knows how
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  Speaker 1: stressful the job is, and he knows what it's like
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  Speaker 1: to be supported by elected officials and he also can
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  Speaker 1: lay witness to what happens when our elected officials do
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  Speaker 1: not support police. Brother Dre. It is great having you
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  Speaker 1: back in studio. Happy new year, my friend. Happy new year.
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  Speaker 1: Brother Brian.
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  Speaker 7: Is so good to see you. I'm excited about being here.
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  Speaker 7: It's time to go to work.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we have come a long way since twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 1: and I really truly you're not patting yourself on the back.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of brought this proclamation from the Hamilton County
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  Speaker 1: Border Commissioners that you received in honor of the work
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  Speaker 1: that you did for community service and problem solving. It's
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: the twenty twelve Beyond the Call Award, and it looks
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: remarkably familiar. But as I see, it was signed by
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  Speaker 1: Greg Hartman, Chris Monzel and Todd portun acknowledging you for
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  Speaker 1: the work you did building cooperation between police and the community.
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  Speaker 1: You were doing outreach work, you were doing all kinds
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: of you know, talking with churches, You met with community
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  Speaker 1: leaders discuss the idea of you know, enthusiastic responses. You
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: talked about the idea of police, you know, having a
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  Speaker 1: better relationship. You got an award for this. This is
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  Speaker 1: something that I just got off the phone with Hamilton
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  Speaker 1: Township Police Chief Scott Hugheston. He identified it and I
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  Speaker 1: brought it up to him. Wouldn't we have a much
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  Speaker 1: better city of Cincinnati if the damn elected officials would
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  Speaker 1: come out and support the officers and praise them for
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  Speaker 1: the work they do, Acknowledge their hard work, give them
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  Speaker 1: the support they need, Encourage strong policing, put cameras up
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  Speaker 1: where we obviously need cameras. I mean, there's a multitude
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  Speaker 1: of things. The silence is deafening. You don't hear anything.
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  Speaker 1: If it ain't a ribbon cutting ceremony for some new
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: skateboard park, you have to have parvolls missing in action.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, what happened between this time when what
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  Speaker 1: you were awarded for, which what we're all clamoring for.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever happened to these kinds of programs, they just disappear.
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  Speaker 7: Called leadership once again. And you've heard me hammer it home,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 7: and Smitherman was right on point. I thought I was
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 7: listening to brother Drey this morning when Smitherman was talking,
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  Speaker 7: so shout out to him on his passion. I have
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  Speaker 7: a daughter as well, and I understand this process, and
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 7: it's the gloves are off, and they've always been off.
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  Speaker 7: But when you look at what the community is developed,
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  Speaker 7: you have your pastors, you have police, and you have parents.
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  Speaker 7: And back back then in twenty eleven, here it is
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  Speaker 7: a program being started, a faith based initiative called Fact
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  Speaker 7: D three. We started in District three. And ironically, guess
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  Speaker 7: who was the captain in District three at that time,
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  Speaker 7: Captain Russ Neville, So he can witness the program itself
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  Speaker 7: and exactly what took place. And what's interesting is that
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  Speaker 7: what everybody is trying to do right now has already
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  Speaker 7: been done.
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  Speaker 1: But you had.
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  Speaker 7: Leadership and ego maniacs and people that are envious and
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  Speaker 7: jealous come in and try to dismantle a program.
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  Speaker 1: And now what do you get.
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  Speaker 7: You constantly get chaos, You constantly get shootings. You constantly
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  Speaker 7: get a community who do not trust the police. And
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 7: that's a problem. And they would rather see a little
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  Speaker 7: girl gunned down. They would rather see constant murders in
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  Speaker 7: Cincinnati than to tell the police. Why there is no
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  Speaker 7: relationship anymore with the police and with the parents and
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  Speaker 7: the pastors need to get reinvolved to re establish this
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  Speaker 7: relationship so we can build trust once again.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you brought the pastor part up because
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  Speaker 1: I asked you off air. And it's been my perception
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  Speaker 1: that maybe pastors don't wield any level of respect or
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  Speaker 1: authority the way they at once point did a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people in the old days. We all went to
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  Speaker 1: church on Sunday. Children went and they were brought up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, suffer the little children come unto me. You
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  Speaker 1: bring them to church. They learned the rules, they learned
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  Speaker 1: the morals, they learned the ethic, they learned the values
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  Speaker 1: of Chris Janity or Judaism, whatever, all designed to make
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  Speaker 1: humanity work together and play together better. But do kids
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  Speaker 1: go to church anymore? Does a reverend or a pastor
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  Speaker 1: or a minister at one of the city churches still
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  Speaker 1: hold and wield some measure of influence over young people? No, Oh, God,
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  Speaker 1: that's so hard.
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  Speaker 7: Social media is the rule. People don't really come out
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  Speaker 7: to fellowship anymore at churches. Churches are hemorrhaging for young
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  Speaker 7: people to come out. And this is an issue because
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  Speaker 7: now most pastors have different agendas when they used to
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 7: get out into the community. Avondale has fifty two churches
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  Speaker 7: on every block. You would go and see that there
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  Speaker 7: is a church, and in every community, you would go
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  Speaker 7: and see that.
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  Speaker 1: There is a church.
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  Speaker 7: So the church would be responsible for their block. They
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  Speaker 7: would make sure that they know everyone in the community
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  Speaker 7: and would minister to that community, whether it's your house,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 7: a refuge where they're you need food and clothing, whether
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  Speaker 7: you need even counsel. Those pastors are needed. But what
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  Speaker 7: has happened now today? The pastors go against the police.
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  Speaker 5: Yea.
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  Speaker 7: Now when you have strong leaders that constantly talk about
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 7: the police and only bring up black lives matter, if
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 7: the police are involved in a shooting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they want and the narrative is they will
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  Speaker 1: cite an illustration and no one, no one can say
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  Speaker 1: with a straight face that all police are all good, moral, ethical,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: right people. No one is correct. I mean, you're looking
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: for perfect in any human being, you ain't gonna find
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: it right, correct, So we start from that. But by
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: focusing on only the worst and then telling the rest
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: of the world that all of them are participants in
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  Speaker 1: this egregious behavior, you've undermined the whole thing. And when
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  Speaker 1: you were talking about what the pastors used to do,
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  Speaker 1: they know everybody on the block. They would engage, they
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  Speaker 1: would find out they would listen and talk. That was
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  Speaker 1: kind of the role the police used to have. The
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: beat cop. You know, he knew the store owners, say
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: hi to them, checking doors. That's the type of relationship
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  Speaker 1: we need to build between police and the community. But
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  Speaker 1: if the community is of the perception that any guy
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  Speaker 1: in uniform or woman in uniform bad, if that's the
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  Speaker 1: first response, you're not gonna get anywhere nowhere, know how.
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  Speaker 7: And this is what you see in the communities that
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 7: are happening. They really are saying, hey, we don't want
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 7: the police here. We don't want you here at all.
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  Speaker 7: We're not gonna support that at all. And if you're
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 7: in our neighborhood now it's well, the police are gonna
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  Speaker 7: just arrest us and don't talk to the police at all.
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  Speaker 1: So now you have this misconception.
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  Speaker 7: What are you teaching our young people, especially our young
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  Speaker 7: inner city kids that look at the uniform and say,
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  Speaker 7: I despise you from jump And this is why it's
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 7: important to reunite this relationship to really say we're not
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 7: just here to lock you up. That's not my intentions.
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  Speaker 7: And that's what I wanted to prove even back in
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 7: twenty eleven, to say Hey, look, you're looking at the uniform,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 7: but let me tell you more about brother Dre. And
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 7: this built the relationship that it became so strong. I
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  Speaker 7: was even awarded for it. But people lost sight of
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  Speaker 7: the vision. And like I told you before, even a
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  Speaker 7: Vice mayor Kearny, she knows about the program and things
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  Speaker 7: that are implemented. And one thing that agreeges me is
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 7: when Miss Williams, the mother of the eleven year old,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 7: she made a comment said, we don't even live here.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 7: I hate this city. There's nothing but cruel people here.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 7: Now see that right there alone as a travesty and
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 7: how they were treated at the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that to be true.
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  Speaker 7: And that's why this program was implemented, to teach pastors
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  Speaker 7: and have chaplains and have an emergency care team to
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 7: go to these families at the hospital, because I've watched
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 7: them just look at their loved one dead, and no
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 7: one is there to support, No one is the go between,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 7: no one to talk to them. So I hope that
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 7: introim Chief Henny is listening because I'm tired of talking
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 7: about the same things. Get a care team in place.
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  Speaker 7: It was dismantled back in twenty eleven and twelve because
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 7: of jealousy. We need to have people in place that
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 7: know how to talk to the community and be a
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  Speaker 7: goal between.
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  Speaker 1: So a program that you were responsible for that proved
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  Speaker 1: itself a worthwhile program so much so that you got
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: an award for it, they dismantled it over politics.
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  Speaker 7: Basically correct correct is there's always jealousy when you reach
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 7: the top. Trust me when I tell you that. And
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 7: when you are doing great things, you are a big
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 7: target and they say new levels, new devils. And so
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 7: even though the program tried to continue, they couldn't continue it.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 7: Why because God didn't give them the vision. God didn't
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 7: give them to know how what to do. And the
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  Speaker 7: key was it started in District three, but the goal
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 7: was to have it in every district, to have a
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 7: faith based liaison officer in all the five districts at
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 7: that time. And what you would have is now a
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 7: communication from every district, in every corner, in every church.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 7: It proved successful in District three, which is one of
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 7: the busiest districts that we have, and so why wouldn't
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 7: you want to utilize that in every district? So they
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 7: didn't continue with the vision. And guess what happened, the
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 7: relationships between the police and the pastors separated in the community,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 7: lost trust, and here we are today.
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  Speaker 1: And then you have the George Floyd impetus behind the
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement, which became a complete hate the police,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: defund the police, and propelling and continuing that broadbrush narrative
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: that all police are bad. Let's talk with more with
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Brother Dre Andre Ewing fundment line Andrea Ewing on Facebook.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: He's just outspoken. He does a video sort of a
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: fireside if I may be so delicate, but he does
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: a great job at it. Eight sixteen right now, will continue,
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  Speaker 1: don't go away? Fifty five car the talk station, Ay
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  Speaker 1: twenty here fifty about Percy Talk Station. I will correct
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: the record. Brother Drey is in studio, but I used
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: Andre Ewing. It's his web page on Facebook. But he's
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: got his own Curse Breakers one word three hundred dash,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: Brother Dre. If you just type in curse Breakers three
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: hundred on Facebook, you will find it. And that's where
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: you can be well. You can enjoy his rants as
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: much as I do. Each and every week Ox spoke
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: and again he knows about law enforcement, having spent almost
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: thirty full years as a Cincinni police officer, an award
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: winner he is for his actions in the community, trying
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: to breach that you know, trust issue that we clearly have,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: which is fomented by politicians and programs that were successful
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: that have been deleted or eliminated because new sheriffs in town,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: new administration all we can't keep around with the former.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: Did we need to go our own direction and take
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: credit for that? I get that's I guess that is
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: the impression. But going back to the political figures, we
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: have the pastors and the ministers, the community leaders, and
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: I'll throw Iris Rowley's name out there again because she
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: is so profoundly influential. You can say anything you want
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: about her. She's got a lot of sway politically in
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean Iris Rowley, and I've said this is
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 7: powerful in the city of Cincinnati and other places. And
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 7: one thing that I know, if you want to move
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 7: the needle, you put Iris Rowley and Damon Lynch in
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 7: the same room. I guarantee the cameras to be down
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 7: there the next day. You're right, okay, Now, so we
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 7: have to deal with the elephant in the room. And
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 7: if you are that powerful and you have that type
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 7: of voice and you can move the needle. Why is
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 7: not this happening? So what has to happen is the
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 7: community of the West End OTR other areas they have
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 7: to I'll build their strong communities. They have to literally
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 7: stay consistent and come together as one. But if Iris
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 7: Rowley is strictly against the police and don't trust the police,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 7: and hear Brother Dre is saying, hold on, we can
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 7: try to work this out. Let's work together. Guess what
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 7: they're gonna trust more Iris Rowley than they will now,
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 7: Brother Dre, because I've worn the uniform. So there needs
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 7: to be a breach of mediation. And that's why you've
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 7: heard me say on my podcast, I'm not here to
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 7: take sides. I'm here to save lives, right, And.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't understand why she is that powerful and fine,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: why doesn't she use that voice and that power for good.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: You heard Smithman going on about, you know, the Black
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: Lives matter out there in front of city Hall, and
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: he's saying, damn it, these people do not care about
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: black lives because if they did, they would be working
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: to breach this gap that exists, a gap that exists
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: primarily because someone's so influential regularly goes out in front
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: of the crowd and says, don't listen to those people.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: Police are bad, period, end of story. And then you
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: can't get off the ground with moving forward with bettering
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: the community relations and bringing about a safer neighborhood. What
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: is her problem with wanting a safer neighborhood. Police can
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: bring that about. The physical presence of police officers are
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: a deterrent to crime, stopping crime before it happens. Look,
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: there's a cop on the corner, I'm not going to
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: commit a crime like standing right there. That works. What's
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: wrong with that concept? Brother dray Well.
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  Speaker 7: I believe in just talking to a lot of individuals
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 7: in the community that if we say release the police,
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 7: then there would be mass incarceration and they'll just start
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 7: to take advantage of the inner city of police. And
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 7: that's why I said there has to be trust involved,
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 7: and you have to make sure that these police officers
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 7: get checked accordingly. And that's why I always talk about
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 7: mental health. That you can't just let a police officer
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 7: go twenty twenty five years, fifteen years and never have
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 7: a wellness check. That's ridiculous. And I always said every
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 7: three months they should be having a strong psychological evaluation
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 7: to make sure how their policing is done. And even
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 7: have individuals that understand if this particular officer consistently gets
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 7: a complaint, they're consistently stacking charges. They're consistently arresting people
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 7: that don't deserve it. This is where you have, say
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 7: the brother dres that understand, why is this officer doing
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 7: what they're doing. So But now if you have it
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 7: one way, brother Brian, that says, we don't care, don't
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 7: trust the police, don't tell them anything. Now you have
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 7: a community that's afraid of the police and the bad guys.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 7: That is a recipe for disaster. And this is what
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 7: you are seeing right now. No trust with the police
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 7: and I'm scared of the local bad guy.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, And you know, just go I ask you the
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: question off the air. I mean, if you could get
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: a straight answer poll, you go out in every single resident,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: unlike an election where only twenty five percent show up,
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: But if you got every single resident on record with
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: an honest answer to the question, would you like a
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: stronger police presence in your neighborhood? Period? End of story
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: I would like to think that most people would, especially
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  Speaker 1: if you're in a high crime neighborhood like the West End, Well,
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  Speaker 1: of course I would rather have police there. Maybe there's
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: some bad eggs within, but we're going to stop the
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: crime from happening because they're around all the time.
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  Speaker 7: Correct, Correct, But being around is also just saying we
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 7: need our community officers to be more involved. And when
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 7: I was doing it, it was we were making visits
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 7: and constant community outreaches and we were involved in so
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 7: many things within the community, making those people with absolutely
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 7: and so they looked at the officer differently in the
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 7: uniform based on that. Now the officer doesn't have the
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 7: time to go up about that. This is why I said,
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  Speaker 7: if you have experienced veteran officers that have retired, put
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 7: them into a community relations position to go into the
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 7: neighborhoods and rebuild the trust. You have all this money,
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 7: your auditioning out, but like I said, you're not focusing
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 7: it on the right resources. Bring back these educated officers
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 7: that understand, give them the right training and allow them
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 7: to rebuild the relationships within the community on a regular basis.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 7: Because the the the cop team units now they're overwhelmed
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 7: with so many other projects that they.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 5: Have to do.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: Is down too and we need more office. Absolutely, work done. Absolutely,
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: we'll continue with Andrea Ewing again. Curse Breakers three hundred
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  Speaker 1: Brother Dre on book, that's where you find the man
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: who is brother Dre. Andre Ewingien Studio. Thirty years as
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: a police officer, just shy. He's seen it all. He's
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: had programs that he's been behind and got awards for them,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: ways of bettering community relations between the police and the
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: community and of course holding those responsible for bad behavior responsible.
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  Speaker 1: And you know the way the data is collected these days,
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: this isn't the old days, Drey. I mean, you can't
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: get away with stuff like he did in the old days.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: The officers all have cameras recording what they're doing when
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: they're on the beat. Everybody's got a camera around him.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: The city's got cameras all over the place, well except
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: for the West end, so you know this is going
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: to be recorded. Police know that they aren't this isn't
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: the days of the rubber hose and beating confessions out
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: of people. And I'm not going to excuse, you know,
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: pulling people over for driving while black or something. We
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: all know that that puts a bad taste in people's mouths.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: They're just harassing me. But I mean the idea that
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: these solutions that you you talked to, and one of
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: the programs you mentioned was there, and we used to
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: have the officers in school and talking about issues with
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: drugs and reaching out and getting in touch with these
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: young people and establishing this relationship. Now, I asked you,
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: because that doesn't exist anymore.
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  Speaker 7: Apparently, correct, not here in Cincinnati. It is in some
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 7: nationwide departments inside the schools and for the their program
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 7: that was the Drug Abuse Resistance Education. It is neat
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 7: especially in times of today, that is so much easy
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 7: access to drugs everywhere for our kids, and so it
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 7: is necessary that we educate them properly. I've talked to
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 7: school teachers and they tell you we can't even teach
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 7: because the kids come in high they are either smoking weed,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 7: they have alcohol, and this is a major major issue
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 7: and we can't keep up with trying to educate them.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 7: Them and they constantly get left behind. And this is
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 7: why you had all these alternative and charter schools being developed,
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 7: and you look back and you don't there's a charter
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 7: school every other month coming of being presented, which is
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 7: absolutely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Well did the program work? That was the question I
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: asked you was a follow up because you know, quite often, well, yeah,
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: there's a we got a new solution, let's let's fund
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: this program, and then we find out that the program
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: is funded. Yeah we've got DARE going on in the
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: school system, but you don't hear anything about the result.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: Isn't that a program that actually bore fruit and helped
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: people stay off drugs and get them on the right path.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 7: Yes, it did. We have some excellent SROs that implemented
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 7: the DARE program. I mean they they had a relationship
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 7: with the kids that was amazing and knew how to
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 7: talk to them in a special way, and the kids
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 7: trusted them as well, because now they are not just
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 7: on the police, they're educating and they're telling you that
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 7: things that are bad and what can happen to you
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 7: if you have drugs on you. So it was an
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 7: early intervention and they tell you already that early intervention
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 7: is part of a problem solving in these things. It
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 7: isn't rocket science. But if we don't you already have
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 7: an audience when you have kids already in school.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you do. And I was just laughing as you
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: were saying that at early intervention, going back to getting
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: kids back into church again, you know, if the wrath
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: of God is going to come down upon you, and
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: you learn that at a really early age and as
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: a way of keeping you out of trouble a lot.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, absolutely, And it's proven that gun violence drops when
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 7: policies are layered, but they're not extreme. I'm gonna give
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 7: you an example. So you number one, you got to
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 7: have responsible gun laws. I mean, let's make sure that
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 7: the laws definitely fit the crime. When we don't just
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 7: patch you on the back and rub you down with
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 7: some and say it's okay, I mean, we got to
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 7: get serious. And then the strong communities that for some reason,
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 7: the communities are not strong anymore, they're broken, and we
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 7: have to find a way to redevelop the strong communities,
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 7: not after major issues happened before. And then you have
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 7: to have once again we just said it, early intervention,
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 7: and it's so you have that early intervention, then then
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 7: there has to be what Brian accountability for violent behavior.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 7: So there's still accountability, there still has to be discipline.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 7: We're not just going to say no, it's over. So
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 7: when you layer these things, this has been proven proven
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  Speaker 7: to work. So that's why it amazes me when I
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 7: keep hearing all these thousands of programs that keep coming up.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 7: And I talked to somebody after we did a youth
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 7: interaction before, and he said, if we can concentrate more
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 7: on collaboration versus competition, we could move the need in
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  Speaker 7: a strong way and our hundred percent and agree.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's like the hand in the cookie jar kind
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: of thing that we saw in Minnesota and elsewhere in
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: this country. You know, you create a non governmental organization
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: who has all these great ideas and all the best
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: interests of the community, and everybody lines up and creates
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: their own NGO. They're going to get a check and
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: they're on competition for whatever finite number of dollars. Is
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: is there any follow up with any organization out there
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: claiming to do what you actually did back in twenty
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  Speaker 1: eleven that is showing results, it is actually proving that
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: it works. I don't ever hear any follow up.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 7: And that's the problem is they have all these government
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 7: funds and federal funds that come out and they just
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 7: start giving away money. We want to see the proof
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 7: in the putting. Let's see exactly. Let's measure how this
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 7: has worked and save lives and made transformations.
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  Speaker 1: A thirty six. Right now, we will continue with Brother
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  Speaker 1: Dre Kursebreaker three hundred, Brother Dre on Facebook. Hold on
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  Speaker 1: right back. This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station.
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  Speaker 1: You're see the Talk State. Hey forty Here at fifty
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  Speaker 1: five KARCD Talk station, Brian Thomas with in studio Curse
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  Speaker 1: Breakers three hundred, Brother Dre Andre Ewing again, thirty year
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: police officer. He's got some great ideas about how to
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: repair community relations and he got an award for these
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: types of ideas a decade ago, and apparently they got
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: rid of them because well, the new administration, well they
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: weren't their ideas. So let's toss that out throughout the
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: baby with the bathwater. Let's not keep what works, let's
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: start with something new. And then that brings us to
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: the challenge of you know, is there any accountability with
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: whatever programs have been started to correct this problem and
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: to bring it. You know, I honestly, Dre, I would
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: think that correcting the misperception that police are all bad
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: that is probably the easiest of the challenges. Just straight marketing.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: You got Purval and Michelle and Kearney, and you've got
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: everybody on board praising the police, saying, don't demonize them,
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: welcome them. They've got great resources. They can steer you
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: in the right direction, keep you out of trouble. They're
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: not there to hurt you or the there to help you.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: That's why they signed up. That seems the easiest of
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: the challenges to deal with. And you mentioned earlier in
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: the program, you know, these outreach programs you try to
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: engage parents and pastors and all these other community leaders.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: The word parents. I wrote that down because I get
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: the impression that parents just don't seem to really care
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: what their kids are up to at any given time,
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: that there isn't that disciplinary component. I mean, I don't
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: know what you were like growing up, but growing up
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: in my house, the biggest concern I had was the
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: incurring the wrath of my dad or my mom. I mean,
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: that was primary discipline. Number one didn't matter if I
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: got paddled in school. I was going to get a
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: paddle when I got home too, and it was going
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: to be worse than the one I got at school.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: So they cared enough about my future to make sure
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: I went to school, to make sure I applied myself.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: Is that as a concept just completely disappeared, dray Well, Let's.
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  Speaker 7: Deal with the facts, brother Brian. One of the things
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 7: that are is true is when you have fatherless homes,
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 7: it has been proven fact that your kids will more
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 7: than likely over sixty to seventy percent will be involved
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 7: in some type of dysfunction, some type of crime, some
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 7: type of drug addiction. So it is a shout out
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 7: to the real fathers that handle their business. I'm all
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 7: for you, But the ones that are out here doing nothing,
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 7: that have zero relationship with your children, that just want
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 7: to keep making babies and that's it. There is a
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 7: responsibility as men, and I can speak on the level
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 7: of a black father who raised his daughter had full custody.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 7: Shout out to Moline, I love you.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 7: The bottom line is black fathers need to stand up
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 7: as well as white fathers. I don't care what race
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 7: you are but the father in the home is important
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 7: to have that relationship. So when you have these absentee das,
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 7: it has been proven that violence will increase. You have
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 7: young young men and women that just are frustrated at
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 7: life because the number one person that should be in
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 7: my life to show me some grounding is no longer there.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 7: And now the mothers have to either work over time,
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 7: double time trying to raise these children. And so what
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 7: happens is the siblings and the children have to take
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 7: care of the other siblings, so they don't go to
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 7: school and get the education necessary.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: And this has to change absolutely well. And that's see
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: another seemingly insurmountable problem. If you have abasthe fathers, they're disappeared,
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: they're gone, they're a jult, doesn't matter what happened to them.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: Then that's a role that could possibly be filled by
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: men like you, people who are willing to engage in
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: programs for young people to act as that mentor and
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: to provide that fatherly figure God idans that these children
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: so desperately need. I mean, that seems to be a
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: worthy goal and a worthy idea as long as you're
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: not politicizing it. I mean, I want to turn my
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: kid over to You know, if I left my young kids,
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: if I still had young kids who weren't adults, and
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: I put them in the hands of Andrea Ewing, I
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: know they'd be taking great care of I know your message.
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: I know what you would be saying. I know that
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: they would be safe in your you know, under your tutelage.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: And it is possible that there's someone out there that
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: has this idea, but then they'll turn it into a
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: big political exercise and try to convince your kids a
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: cops suck or something like that. But we need strong
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: father figures to fill in that void where they do
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: not exist in these young people's lives or they're destined
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: to that percentage you mentioned.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 7: One hundred percent. And what's interesting is I was doing
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 7: all this on my police salary. Yeah, I know, I know, Okay,
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 7: I didn't ask for give me a special amount of money.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: I wish i'd have brought that up there.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 7: Give me all this financial means that I need to
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 7: make it happen. I did it within the confinement of
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 7: my work shift. And that's why I'm gonna give a
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 7: shout out to Captain Russ Neville and I'm gonna tell
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 7: you why. You know, we know I have have the
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 7: issues with Chief theji Okay, But Captain russ Neville he
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 7: understood the vision at District three. He saw the work
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 7: that I was doing and he said, what do you
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 7: need to make this successful?
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: And I'll give it to you.
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 7: Whether it was the days off, whether it was the overtime,
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 7: he said, I want to make sure this happened. And
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 7: the key was he was directly involved that every pastor
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 7: every community member that I met, he took the time
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 7: out to sit at the table to make sure these
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 7: things were going to happen. And it was interesting because
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 7: he was out of his comfort zone going into I
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 7: want to say black churches and being in a position
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 7: to speak. But it brought the relationship together because number one,
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 7: they never really seen a white officer come into an
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 7: all black church. But I was able to show him
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 7: exactly how there are cultural differences, but how we can
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 7: come together. And he saw firsthand how it worked. And
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 7: the proof is in what you see right here in
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 7: the rewards that was just given.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna pause. We'll bring him back for one
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: more since we have one more segment with Curse Breaker three.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: Hundred Brother Dre. He talks about it now.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Stephen Curry and this is Gentleman's cut.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 5: I think what makes Gentleman's.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: Cut their CD talk station. Happy New Year Brian Thomas
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 1: with Brother Dre. You can find him online in Facebook
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: Curse Breakers three hundred dash Brother Dre and you'll be
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: very entertained by what he has to say, some enlightening
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: comments and some very pointed criticisms from time to time.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: That's why we bring him on the program. All right,
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: man who had successful ideas and again got an award
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 1: for what he was doing and by way of outreach
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: more than a decade ago, programs that actually work. This
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: was through District three of the CINCINNT Police Department, and
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: he was doing all of this work, the outreach work,
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: the efforts to you know, bring themmunity together, getting the
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: priests together, the ministers and and and the people of
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: faith together to work with the community and all designed
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: to you know, grease the skids and oil the machine
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: of better community relations and also trying to have an
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: impact on young people and change the trajectory of their life.
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: You were able to do this. You had the help
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: of the Captain of District three. Who offered you the resources?
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: No one wrote you a check.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 4: No one.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: This wasn't a decree from the from the mayor or
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 1: the vice mayor or the city manager and demonstrated success.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: Could they do this again on their own? The police?
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, is there someone stopping this successful program from
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: coming back or re engaging it or reimagining it along
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: the similar lines stray No.
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  Speaker 7: This comes down to the chief of police. Okay, the
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 7: chief doesn't need permission from the city manager. The chief
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 7: doesn't need permission from the mayor to implement programs within
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 7: the department. And that's why I say, you have to
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 7: have the right people in place that will be effective
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 7: to make these things happen. And the officer who has
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 7: a heart for people, that understands and care about people,
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 7: and they should go through a chaplaincy program as well
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 7: to understand that process. And that's why it was good
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 7: to have everyone work together between the parents, police and
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 7: the pastors. It is necessary. But the chief of police
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 7: could right now if he wanted to call Andre Ewing
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 7: say we want to implement a program and re establish
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 7: some things, he could actually get officers. So if you
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 7: said you don't have the man power, you don't have
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 7: the bodies. Guess what I've said it one hundred times.
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 7: Bring back retired officers that know the community, know how
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 7: to talk to people, and can addressing on a whole
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 7: different level.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: And I think if they spring from this, you know
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: this belief that you have this, you know that you
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: haven't lost hope for humanity. You know there's a better way.
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: If they're interested in engaging in this type of I'll
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  Speaker 1: call it a ministry for lack of a better word,
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to have getting retired police officer. This
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  Speaker 1: isn't like getting a lateral higher from a police department
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  Speaker 1: where you are hiring a person to engage in law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: This would be outside of arresting people. This would be
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  Speaker 1: a spokesperson, an interventionists, someone who could help spread the
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  Speaker 1: resources that are available.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely and to implement that that training that's necessary so
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  Speaker 7: officers can relate to the issues at hand. And one
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  Speaker 7: thing that made the program even successful was going into
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  Speaker 7: the Hamilton County Justice Center and having the Curse Breakers
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  Speaker 7: three hundred program there and bringing in officers that never
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  Speaker 7: had an opportunity need to actually talk to those who
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  Speaker 7: are incarcerated on that level, they would drop them off
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  Speaker 7: but not talk to them, so they would understand and
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  Speaker 7: even develop a different type of relationship with those that
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  Speaker 7: are incarcerated.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and you were in rooms with, you know, twenty
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  Speaker 1: five thirty probably murderers because if they were still locked
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  Speaker 1: up in a lock up, they obviously had committed some
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  Speaker 1: pretty bad crimes. But they listened to you and they
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  Speaker 1: appreciated you. From what I've understand, are many conversations both
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  Speaker 1: on air and off air about this. They had respect
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  Speaker 1: for a man who came in, who used to wear
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  Speaker 1: the uniform, who even wore the uniform. A cop is
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  Speaker 1: sitting here talking to me. That's just highly unusual. But
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  Speaker 1: the idea that it had an impact, that it actually worked.
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  Speaker 1: It was not you were spinning your wheels there talking
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  Speaker 1: to someone like you were talking to a brick wall.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, because I was building the relationships number one, to say,
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  Speaker 7: when you get released, we want to make sure you
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  Speaker 7: have relationships already in place, right and wherever you go
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  Speaker 7: back home, it's your community and we need to work together.
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  Speaker 7: And so it was teaching these young men and women
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  Speaker 7: how to be responsible in their community and build these
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  Speaker 7: relationships prior to so if they already number one, Employment
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  Speaker 7: is an issue. Guess what you have, Brother Dre, Officer
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  Speaker 7: ewing as a liaison talk to an employer and say,
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  Speaker 7: this person has these skills and are ready to go
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  Speaker 7: right now, And all of a sudden, you can implement
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  Speaker 7: a interview with this person because they've had the train
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  Speaker 7: as soon as their foot hits the ground and are released.
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  Speaker 7: Guess what, They're not a menace to society, but they're
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  Speaker 7: a productive person in society, and they go right to
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  Speaker 7: employment and feel better about themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling better about yourselves, you know, the beauty of work,
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  Speaker 1: quite often is that it's worth. Absolutely gives you self respect,
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  Speaker 1: gives your reason to get up in the morning, and
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  Speaker 1: it provides a great foundation for you to maybe have
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  Speaker 1: a family and take care of your kids. Absolute, Brother Dre,
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  Speaker 1: always a pleasure having you in my studio. You are
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  Speaker 1: always welcome in my studio, sir, or even just calling
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  Speaker 1: in if you have if you can't make it in,
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  Speaker 1: and I hope that you will be available throughout the
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 1: year from time to time to have these conversations further.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, and once again I'm tired of saying condolences to
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 7: families for the loss and there needs to be responsibility
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  Speaker 7: on a whole nother level. Let's not wait for another
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 7: tragedy to do what is right. And someone my mentor,
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 7: said this to me. He said, helping hands do more
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 7: than praying lips. And I said, wow, because faith without
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 7: works is dead. So you can pray for me, but
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  Speaker 7: I also want your works to prove what you're saying
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  Speaker 7: with your mouth.
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  Speaker 1: That's beautiful message under you aren't going to leave that