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Furness Show 12-2: NFL Power Rankings, Cougar Roundtable, John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: All right, what do we got going on to I
• 0:01
  Speaker 1: want to get up the Seahawks thing. I think tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be out there and get a
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  Speaker 1: couple of interviews, do some stuff. So the power rankings
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: thing is fun. I do like power rankings are fun
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  Speaker 1: because the NFL doesn't matter. Subjective college football matters NFL.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't because it's who wins. I'm I've believed in
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks team all year. I like the Seahawks team
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know if they're the number two
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  Speaker 1: team in the NFL really, only because I do have
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  Speaker 1: concerns about that offense, specifically the offensive line. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the concern.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, every teams though extensive conversation yesterday with you, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, about about the guard position.
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  Speaker 1: Yes as well, just the whole Yeah, I need to
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  Speaker 1: see I need to see a couple now. Listen. Their
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  Speaker 1: defense is solely doesn't matter, right, I think I Hugh
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: had a Heuan Softy and and f more at four
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  Speaker 1: yesterday brought up you know, some of the some of
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: the least productive games that Sam Donald's had have come
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  Speaker 1: in the last four weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, So.
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  Speaker 1: I still believe in Sam first of all. And one
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  Speaker 1: thing you'll never hear me doubt or question is the
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  Speaker 1: decision to move on from Geno and go to Sam Donald. Ever,
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  Speaker 1: I just I want to see that offensive line just
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  Speaker 1: get a little bit better. I want to see Klint
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  Speaker 1: Kubiak react to things like Brian Flore's blitz better. You know,
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  Speaker 1: And I thought that, you know, in a twenty six
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  Speaker 1: to nothing game, there's no reason to throw too much
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  Speaker 1: shade at them. But it wasn't a great game offensively
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  Speaker 1: at all, and the consistent ability to run the football
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  Speaker 1: is still missing a little bit. I think the bigger
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  Speaker 1: thing is is they're really missing Tory Horton. I think
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  Speaker 1: they need that secondary threat. Rashid Shihet has not been
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  Speaker 1: it yet. He's great on the punt returns, I mean
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  Speaker 1: kick off returns. He's like, that's that's a I like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if him just
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  Speaker 1: on special teams is worth the draft picks. But I
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  Speaker 1: do feel as if there's a powder keg there that
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  Speaker 1: could change and flip a game pretty quick already has,
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  Speaker 1: but come playoff time, all of a sudden, he houses one.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Okay, you know, it's worth it. But but
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  Speaker 1: I want to see more from him at the receiver position.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see more than just jsn Aj. Barner
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  Speaker 1: has been a revelation. He's been really good, like really
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  Speaker 1: good for them at the tight end position. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, Anders, every team has blemishes. I'm not quite
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  Speaker 1: sure what the Rams blemishes. Not quite sure what that is.
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  Speaker 1: Deep at receiver. They got two absolute they got two
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  Speaker 1: absolute hammers. They're solid at tight end. Kyron Williams is
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  Speaker 1: a dude. Blake Korum has been really good in his
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  Speaker 1: second year. Staffords the best quarterback probably in the league
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  Speaker 1: right now. Sorry, I mean I know that Mahomes and
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  Speaker 1: all them just look at just watch him. He's great.
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  Speaker 1: And their defense is pretty damn good. Yeah, that's why
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  Speaker 1: I'd say them probably won. And I think the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: have a shower for being number two, So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's that far off. Where did the Patriots fall
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  Speaker 1: into that?
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  Speaker 3: No, I haven't played anyone.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, where do the Patriots fall into that?
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  Speaker 1: Every time I want to doubt them, and I know
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  Speaker 1: I made I made fun of the game last night.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not watching this crap. And I ended
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  Speaker 1: up watching it for a while, and then I flipped
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  Speaker 1: it over to watch the Jets of the Sabers, and
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  Speaker 1: I flipped right back because it was five to nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm done. Five to one.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're fools gold to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: I want to think that too, Jess, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that's the it's it's a rational thought. It is. It's
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  Speaker 1: a rational thought to have because look at them, like
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  Speaker 1: they're the Patriots. No Belichick, no Brady, no bled So,
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  Speaker 1: no Steve Grogan, none of that. I mean, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter you go back in time. But they just keep
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  Speaker 1: winning and they're ten and two.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not a Drake made doubterer, so I don't even
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  Speaker 5: think that's the part that's like the other shoe will drop.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think their defense is like that elite, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And they played ambulance. The team they played last night's awful.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's it's awful, but they're they're there. But the
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  Speaker 1: defense plays physical. Man, there a reflection to their coach.
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  Speaker 1: They are reflecting their coach. So uh, all right, I
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  Speaker 1: want to get just real quick. I mentioned college football.
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  Speaker 1: M J and I were talking a moment ago. College
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  Speaker 1: FOOTBA playoffs starts tonight. You know, he's talking about the
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  Speaker 1: I said to remind him, I said, you might want
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  Speaker 1: to talk to your friends down in Ole, Miss. But
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  Speaker 1: the the the problems with the game right now, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to address this with Alex and MK in
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  Speaker 1: a minute with the cook ground table. We'll get a
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  Speaker 1: little bigger picture with them. I just the more I hear,
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  Speaker 1: see and watch of Lane Kiffin, the more I'm absolutely disgusted,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm disgusted that a guy like that is in
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  Speaker 1: a position he is in. I'm more disappointed in something
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  Speaker 1: that we've all across the country complained about for decades,
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  Speaker 1: the lack of leadership in college football. Well, when is
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  Speaker 1: an adult in the room going to stand up that
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  Speaker 1: has the ability to do so and change it? Like,
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  Speaker 1: when is that going to happen? You know? I joked
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  Speaker 1: yesterday about the Softy plan, and Softy is not the
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  Speaker 1: only one, but it's the legitimate, the biggest thing with
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  Speaker 1: college football, the biggest issue, and Huffman's going to be
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  Speaker 1: with us probably Thursday. I gotta figure out the time, Jess,
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  Speaker 1: when's here Thursday? Because it's early signing day tomorrow, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk to him about this because he's this is
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  Speaker 1: his world. He lives in this. They changed the early
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  Speaker 1: signing because, frankly, coaches didn't want to have to worry
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  Speaker 1: about losing their players. They got a guy committed in
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  Speaker 1: September and October, and they want to get that guy's
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  Speaker 1: in signature on a letter of intent. Well, a letter
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  Speaker 1: of intent don't really matter anymore because it's a different
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  Speaker 1: world now. It's an il, it's I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: what they call it. He'll explain it to his skin tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: But that's why they changed the letter of intent day
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  Speaker 1: or commitment day to two. There's one now and there's
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  Speaker 1: still the one in February. This one is the one
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  Speaker 1: that matters more sort of, although with all the coaching changes,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. We'll talk to Brandan about that. But
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like as Safty pointed out in his tweet,
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  Speaker 1: and he's one hundred percent right, and other people have
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  Speaker 1: said the same thing. We'll talk to Mandela Marle. It's
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  Speaker 1: really not that difficult. The game has evolved and changed.
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  Speaker 1: The reason that these coaches wanted to have and didn't
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  Speaker 1: and want to have the calendar like it is is
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  Speaker 1: because they want to have their players available for them
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  Speaker 1: in their buildings, starting with offseason workouts in January and
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  Speaker 1: a spring practice in March or April, and they have
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  Speaker 1: to be in school for that. That means that you
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  Speaker 1: have kids transferring and tapping out during a season, you
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  Speaker 1: have coaches leaving programs in the middle of a playoff
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  Speaker 1: or bowl season, what have you. And it really isn't
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  Speaker 1: that difficult. You want to be like the NFL. You
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  Speaker 1: want to be the NFL model. That's kind of where
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  Speaker 1: players are getting paid, coaches are getting paid at zillion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: You want to be the NFL model. Follow the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: The NFL would never allow a coach to leave for
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  Speaker 1: another school or another program in the middle of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Never allowed players just to say, yeah, I signed an
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  Speaker 1: NIL or NFL contract, They're the same damn thing now
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  Speaker 1: and just tap out and go somewhere else in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of a season. There is a time and a
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  Speaker 1: place for free agency for coaches and players. Pro sports
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  Speaker 1: do it. They've given you a template, they've given you
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  Speaker 1: a model. Figured it out. Just figure it out. But
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  Speaker 1: until then we're all going to complain and scream and
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  Speaker 1: yell and talk about the ills of the game. The
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  Speaker 1: ills of the game on the field aren't there. People
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  Speaker 1: are watching, they're enthusiastic, they're loving it. The Super Conference
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  Speaker 1: thing seems to be working, but there are issues because
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  Speaker 1: every year a couple of schools and a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of hundreds of athletes. Student athletes get screwed over. That's
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  Speaker 1: how it works. Fix it. It's not that hard. We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about that with MK and Alex coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Time to check in with our Koug legends. QB one,
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  Speaker 1: wrapping up the regular season, looking ahead a little bit
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: to the bowl season coming up and all of that,
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  Speaker 1: and also the holidays upon us. So it's the glorious
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  Speaker 1: time of the year. Be good to have the fellows
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  Speaker 1: back with us. Our last regular scheduled visit this year.
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  Speaker 1: We may do one after the bowl game to put
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  Speaker 1: a bow on things, but let's just go and to
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  Speaker 1: go through some stuff right now. Fellas. Great to have
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  Speaker 1: you on Alex. They get the six win on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: do the Cougs. It's just big, Like I know, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a lot six and six, but that
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  Speaker 1: was that was big?
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  Speaker 10: Wasn't it huge?
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  Speaker 11: I mean, look, there's there's something to I saw this
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  Speaker 11: stat that popped up, and I think it's very indicative
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  Speaker 11: of how people just thinking about Washington State football. You know,
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  Speaker 11: Washington State it's been to nine bowl games, right in
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  Speaker 11: the last ten years, not counting the COVID year. Right
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  Speaker 11: in that time, USC has been to five, I think,
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  Speaker 11: and UC has been to four. Right, So on the
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  Speaker 11: West coast, you know, Washington State football has been as
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  Speaker 11: good as anybody in the last you know, ten or
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  Speaker 11: fifteen years. And I think that the yeah, the ability
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  Speaker 11: to maintain that streak and continue that is super important.
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  Speaker 11: I think also, right, like that was an important football
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  Speaker 11: game with a lot on the line. So when you
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  Speaker 11: talk about nineteen twenty twenty one year olds, it's that's hard, right,
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  Speaker 11: It's easy to stub your toe along the way and
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  Speaker 11: make mistakes. And I thought the coaching SAT did a
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  Speaker 11: great job getting kids ready to go, and the kids
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  Speaker 11: came ready to play, and there was never a doubt.
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  Speaker 11: I mean it was it was over midway between the
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  Speaker 11: second midway and the second quarter.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, this, I mean, this is how it should have
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  Speaker 12: been the first time they played. And I was telling
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  Speaker 12: everybody that they're going to oh man, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 12: a one or two score games, Like it is absolutely not.
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  Speaker 12: They had Washington State had a chip on their shoulder
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  Speaker 12: and defensively hold him scoreless. For three quarters in a row,
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  Speaker 12: like it's they had something, they're proven and walk around
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  Speaker 12: on the sideline. I got to see sideline one. Jessman
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  Speaker 12: down there in action. But I'm telling you, the feeling
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  Speaker 12: on that sideline was how Washington State. That's the Washington State.
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  Speaker 12: I remember, people are jumping around excited, coaches are going nuts,
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  Speaker 12: the players were going nuts. They came to play.
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  Speaker 1: What does that say MK about what Jimmy Rodgers and
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  Speaker 1: his staff have done for this particular reason. That game
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  Speaker 1: played the Saturday after Thanksgiving. Yeah, what's on the line.
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  Speaker 1: We understand what's on the line getting a bowl game?
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  Speaker 1: Alex mentioned it. I think it's Oregon, Washington. I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: of West Coast schools, Oregon, Washington, Utah. Believe the only
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  Speaker 1: schools that have had that maybe have been in like
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  Speaker 1: that same level right in terms of getting a bull
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  Speaker 1: eligibility to do that, Alex, I mean, that's pretty good,
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  Speaker 1: heady company to be in with those schools. So that's
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  Speaker 1: big to get to that point. Big because what we
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  Speaker 1: can we'll talk about in a minute what it means.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a six you know, a five and six
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  Speaker 1: team day after two days after Thanksgiving. Most of the
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  Speaker 1: students aren't back. It's not like Apple Cup you come
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  Speaker 1: back for. Like Apple Cup you come back for and
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  Speaker 1: the alumni comes back for an Apple Cup. They ain't
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  Speaker 1: coming back for Game two in an exhibition season against
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  Speaker 1: Oregon State. So what does it say about what that
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff was able to do with those players to
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  Speaker 1: get them to that level You just talked about MK
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  Speaker 1: Because there weren't a lot of people in the stands,
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  Speaker 1: all of that emotion had to be coming from within,
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  Speaker 1: and that to me is a tribute to what they're
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  Speaker 1: doing there right now.
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  Speaker 12: And you hit it on the head right there. Because
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  Speaker 12: there wasn't a lot of people in the stands. There
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  Speaker 12: was a lot of empty spaces out there, and I
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  Speaker 12: think the coaching that did a great job of preparing
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  Speaker 12: the kids, especially if you don't know, if you've never
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  Speaker 12: been in a pullman, you know, in November or anything
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  Speaker 12: like that, you got a lot of new players that
• 12:08
  Speaker 12: are coming back. But on the sideline, and Alex will
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  Speaker 12: tell you this too, there's always an agenda or somebody
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  Speaker 12: that the coaching staff is really pushing that week. So
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  Speaker 12: this week is this? This week is this? Every single
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  Speaker 12: player on the sideline, I heard them saying we're going bowling.
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  Speaker 12: We're going bowling. So that just means that coaching staff
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  Speaker 12: all week they got pictures in their scattery reports of
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  Speaker 12: them going bowling. They got pictures of bowling alleys everywhere
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  Speaker 12: like they had one that they had one thing on
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  Speaker 12: their mind. I'm telling that defense, Ian, when I was
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  Speaker 12: on the sideline, gave me goosebumps. They were flying around
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  Speaker 12: with just hell bent on not letting them score. They
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  Speaker 12: wanted to have this game as a skunk. That's what
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  Speaker 12: they wanted. And defensively, it was just it was so
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  Speaker 12: exciting to watch because the preparation and I tell my
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  Speaker 12: son this all the time. When you're prepared, you're never
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  Speaker 12: going to be nervous because you already know what's going
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  Speaker 12: to happen. Right, It was just it was just awesome.
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  Speaker 10: You know, Ian, it's super interesting.
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  Speaker 11: I got to touch on this because it crossed my
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  Speaker 11: mind as MK was talking and I heard in the
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  Speaker 11: week leading up to the game, some of the some
• 13:04
  Speaker 11: of the seniors, particularly South Dakoast State guys like Matthew
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  Speaker 11: Durance and Tucker Lards were talking and they were talking about,
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  Speaker 11: you know, kind of what the week meant for them,
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  Speaker 11: but how they were preparing for kind of the end
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  Speaker 11: of their careers, and they used to term sowing the
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  Speaker 11: seeds for the future that they'll never see the growth of. Right,
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  Speaker 11: And I think back to when I showed up at
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  Speaker 11: Washington State, and Washington State was a defensive mind and
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  Speaker 11: football team, like that's what that's what we were. Offense
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  Speaker 11: was a thing QVU, but like you know, the defense
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  Speaker 11: in that era, right the Holiday Bowls season then into
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  Speaker 11: six with MK, I mean, defense led the way more
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  Speaker 11: so than offense did oftentimes. And I remember, you know
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  Speaker 11: MK can speak to this. There used to be the seniors,
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  Speaker 11: like the defensive backs used to pass it down to
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  Speaker 11: the young guys and and the d line passed it
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  Speaker 11: down to their guys, and there was this constant, like
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  Speaker 11: constant passing down, sowing seeds of what the expectations were.
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  Speaker 11: And with some coaching changes on certain sides of the
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  Speaker 11: ball and different things, we lost that along the way
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  Speaker 11: heading into seven, and then certainly that until my leads
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  Speaker 11: showed up, right, And I think now you're seeing that
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  Speaker 11: Jimmy Rodgers has a chance potentially to create that type
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  Speaker 11: of culture that moves right from year to year to
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  Speaker 11: year because what you don't want, obviously is that defensive
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  Speaker 11: mentality we saw this year to change, right. I think
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  Speaker 11: what you're hearing from the staff and the players is
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  Speaker 11: that it's not gonna matter who's wearing the crimson and gray,
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  Speaker 11: because they're gonna set the expectation of what it looks like,
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  Speaker 11: particularly defensively, which I love.
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  Speaker 12: And and and I'll follow with this too. Everything's about
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  Speaker 12: a foundation, a strong foundation. I think people ask me
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  Speaker 12: all the times, like what did you expect from Jimmy
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  Speaker 12: Rodgers when he came to this season? And I don't
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  Speaker 12: know if I expected everything that he's done this year
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  Speaker 12: because coming into a new space that he is, especially
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  Speaker 12: out of Washington State, that smaller community, I didn't think
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  Speaker 12: he was gonna be able to get buy in that quick.
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  Speaker 12: And I think he set the foundation for that going
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  Speaker 12: into next year for these players.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a smk Alex. It's our Kuga roundtable,
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  Speaker 1: not every Tuesday. Yeah, I think that's an important thing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, where we are in college football today right
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  Speaker 1: now today across the country, you know, there's two levels.
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  Speaker 1: There's the power four level, there's a group of five level,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, and a group of five and all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, and we got all you know, and you
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  Speaker 1: got the Lane Kiffins of the world that dominate the headlines,
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  Speaker 1: and you've got all the stuff going on. What you
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: guys were saying there is important to me because, first
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: of all, I think, you know, the buy in has
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: to happen, and how things look today and probably not
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: how they're going to look in two years, right, Like
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: it's just different. It's just going to be different. But
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Alex getting to a bowl game and I hear MK
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: talking about those guys, the message being sent, it probably
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: means a lot to some of those guys that played
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: in like the FCS playoffs too, like one and done
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: type of stuff. In the cold weather or wherever they
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: might be. Playing a ball game is a whole different world,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: isn't it. Like it's a whole different world. So what
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: do you think those guys? How excited should they be
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: for playing in a bowl game wherever the hell it
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: may be, New Mexico, Memphis, wherever it may be.
• 15:58
  Speaker 11: I mean, these guys just seem like they like in football, right,
• 16:00
  Speaker 11: so they get another they get another three or four
• 16:02
  Speaker 11: weeks of practicing and playing. You know, the bowl game's
• 16:05
  Speaker 11: fun you get, you know, you get a lot of
• 16:07
  Speaker 11: stuff with it. It's kind of a fun week once
• 16:09
  Speaker 11: you get down there because there's events and you know,
• 16:11
  Speaker 11: there's not the you know, there's not maybe the pressure
• 16:14
  Speaker 11: of like an FCS playoff game, but it's kind of
• 16:16
  Speaker 11: a chance. Like for those seniors, it's like a very
• 16:19
  Speaker 11: enjoyable experience to finish their career win or lose. Right,
• 16:23
  Speaker 11: obviously they're gonna want to win, but you know, I'm
• 16:26
  Speaker 11: in that sense, I'm excited for some of these guys
• 16:28
  Speaker 11: to be able to experience that feel of it. It's
• 16:31
  Speaker 11: you know, it's gonna be, it's gonna be on ESPN,
• 16:33
  Speaker 11: it's gonna be or wherever like it's gonna be. It's
• 16:35
  Speaker 11: gonna feel like a big moment, right, And so to that,
• 16:38
  Speaker 11: to that degree, I think it's a great way to finish.
• 16:40
  Speaker 11: I would be disappointed for a guy like you know
• 16:42
  Speaker 11: Tucker Large or or you know Matthew Durance, Caleb Francell
• 16:45
  Speaker 11: if they didn't get that opportunity to like do it
• 16:46
  Speaker 11: one more time, you know, when they are used to it.
• 16:49
  Speaker 11: Coming from South Dakota State.
• 16:52
  Speaker 12: I think one thing I always look back at I
• 16:55
  Speaker 12: wish I understand how important a bowl game was at
• 16:58
  Speaker 12: that time, being like I came from you know, little
• 17:01
  Speaker 12: Rent in Washington at Liberty High School, and you know,
• 17:04
  Speaker 12: my senior year we go to the Roles I'm sorry,
• 17:06
  Speaker 12: my freshman year we go to the Rose Bowl. My
• 17:08
  Speaker 12: sophomore year we go directly to the Holiday Bowl. I
• 17:11
  Speaker 12: just thought that was a regular thing that just happened,
• 17:13
  Speaker 12: and I wish, I wish I knew the importance of
• 17:17
  Speaker 12: it to just take it in a little bit more.
• 17:18
  Speaker 12: But those were probably some of the best times of
• 17:20
  Speaker 12: my life, you know, going to those bowl games.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Well I think you know, mks you're describing it to
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: you know, everywhere every school treats a bowl game differently,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Like in every and the attitude in the locker room,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: coaching staff, fan base, it's different for a bowl game.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get back to the importance of it
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: in a second about the seeds that are being sown
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: that you guys brought up in a moment. But you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I think back, you know, last few years, our bowl
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: games experiences have been awful, Like they just have been.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: It's like coaches leaving offense. I mean, Klay McGuire's I like,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I love clay Man. But you know our offensive line
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: coach having to call plays in a game, you know, O.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: You know our strength and conditioning coaches running the sideline
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: last year, and you know all that kind of stuff.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: A d line coach that stepped up who's a former Husky,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and man, I love him for that. But in Pete Calugus,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: but you know, we we've lost. It's just it feels
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: like this year we might actually Alex have a legitimate
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: team out there. The Max Borgies of the world opting out,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: which still goes down one of the greatest you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: missteps ever for a guy like I mean, just not
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: only for the team but for him. Like last I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: checked undrafted and cut from the XFL a hundred times. Dude,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: go play in the bowl game. Put some tape out there,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you know, get Alex. You know, being a six or
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: seventh round pick is a lot better than being a UDFA, right, Like,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: go out there, like all these guys opting out. I
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: don't think we're going to have that Alex this year.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna have all these dudes opting
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: out this year.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: No.
• 18:42
  Speaker 11: And you know, if you guys want to get really
• 18:44
  Speaker 11: big picture with it, you know, with all all the
• 18:46
  Speaker 11: things you talked about, it's happening in college football right now.
• 18:48
  Speaker 11: All the bad things about college football that we don't like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 11: right coach movement, coach movement in the middle of the
• 18:53
  Speaker 11: season or when they're on a championship run, like Lane Kiffin, conversation,
• 18:58
  Speaker 11: conversations about conversation about transfer portal before the portal is
• 19:01
  Speaker 11: even open and athletes are ready to go, you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 11: backdoor nil deals to try and get players. Like all
• 19:07
  Speaker 11: the stuff right that's happening that that nobody likes about
• 19:09
  Speaker 11: college football.
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: But we opened that Pandora's box.
• 19:12
  Speaker 11: This Washington State football team, in my opinion, is all
• 19:14
  Speaker 11: that is good about college football.
• 19:15
  Speaker 10: The ZBC houses of the world.
• 19:17
  Speaker 11: They get a second opportunity to play at a big
• 19:19
  Speaker 11: school and prove they can do it right. The South
• 19:21
  Speaker 11: Dakota State kids that were all Americans and came to
• 19:24
  Speaker 11: the next level up quote unquote and show that they're
• 19:26
  Speaker 11: just as good and can compete with the best, right
• 19:29
  Speaker 11: the old Misses of the world, you know, the young
• 19:31
  Speaker 11: freshmen that are getting on the field, making plays and
• 19:33
  Speaker 11: doing big things that you know, the Christian Hillbourns of
• 19:36
  Speaker 11: the world, that stuck it out at Washington State and
• 19:38
  Speaker 11: you are going to get big opportunities. Like all of
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: that stuff, to me is what Washington State football is
• 19:43
  Speaker 11: all about right now, and I think it's all that's
• 19:45
  Speaker 11: good in football and has shown and kof fan should
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: be excited, has shown that it can win.
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: Right. You don't have to buy your roster. You don't
• 19:52
  Speaker 10: have to. You don't have to do it shady like.
• 19:55
  Speaker 11: You don't have to be you know, you don't have
• 19:57
  Speaker 11: to be a guy that's you know, snake in the grass.
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: To make it work.
• 20:01
  Speaker 11: You can just be a straight up, honest, good football
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: coach with good kids and win and compete at the
• 20:05
  Speaker 11: highest levels. And I think Washington State showed that this
• 20:07
  Speaker 11: year and was really close to having a really special years.
• 20:10
  Speaker 11: The ball downs is one way or the next.
• 20:13
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Ole Miss and Virginian game that those two change.
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: What does that season look like those two games? Right?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean no one was cared about Lane
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: kiff and leaving right now because they probably wouldn't be
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: That's fun, you know, we would have saved the lane
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: a lot of headaches, just a few dollars bills bank account.
• 20:31
  Speaker 12: Fans or are going into the plans like man, at
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: least give him a little credit for the couple of
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: the wins.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, but MKA, I think I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: go back. I look at it on a much lower scale,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: like a way lower scale. I mean, Wazoo wasn't competing
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: obviously for a national championship last year. But I can relate.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I think we all can relate. You know. The one thing,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you know, Mike Price left to go to Alabama, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: he's going to Alabama from Wazoo after taking our school
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to two Rose Bowls. I mean, that's fine. I didn't
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: love the fact he coached that game necessarily in the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. Just as a fan, I kind of was thinking,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: if you're out, you're out. Let DoBeS take over and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: be done with it. But that's fine, that's it's water
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: on the bridge. But you know, Mike God has to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of places, and and then you know when
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: when you know, when Leech stuck around for a decade plus,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I mean Mike could have left Alex How many times
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: could Leach have left? Probably four or five times.
• 21:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah, probably should have taken the Tennessee job when it
• 21:25
  Speaker 11: when it popped up to be honest with you.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean would have hit a better job.
• 21:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah to say that, but it's probably true, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 11: But yeah, he had he had his opportunity Washington State.
• 21:33
  Speaker 11: I think everybody agrees now in hindsight that you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: we're all very grateful for the length of time that
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: coach Leech spent at Washington State.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: Yeah, he loved the community.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But but I look at Kiffin and there's a
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: there's a Dickert in all our buckle quality to that,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: like you kind of, I don't.
• 21:49
  Speaker 12: I don't know if you blame those two guys though.
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: I think Dickert hit the max that he was going
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: to get. I think he peaked, especially with everything that
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: happened with the pack and everything like that. His resume
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: was where is going to be?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: He had Helm and MK, he had Healthyer. My problem
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: with it is for two straight years that guy was
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: on the job search and you look at the trajectory
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: of the program from middle of the season to the end,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and both years it went straight down to the side
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of the mountain. Man. I hate to say that to
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: a pilot, but it went into the mountain, buddy, Like
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: it went into the mountain. You had you had a
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: quarterback and and O c that you know, good for them,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: they got paid because the more MATERI plays, unless he's
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: gonna get paid to the next level, you know. But
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: those guys same thing. I mean, I look at that
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: last game against was at Wyoming last year, didn't score
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the final three quarters, like like your heads, your heads
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: were elsewhere. So I understand fan base is being pissed.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: What I like is I think we got a guy
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: here that doesn't mind small town America, that doesn't mind
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you know where he's at. Yeah, and I think I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I feel more bullish alex
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: On on the future now today. It's than I would
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: have ever thought I would have. You know, after say
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that you Doug game of the North Texas games.
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: I think jim I think Jimmy wants to stay longer too.
• 22:59
  Speaker 11: I agree, Well, I think, I mean, I think, I think,
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: no matter what again, not to not to pull hoals
• 23:05
  Speaker 11: in it, like no matter what. I agree like at
• 23:07
  Speaker 11: six and six this season, seeing what we saw. I mean,
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: there was a culture reset at Washington State this this season, right,
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: there was a culture reset. This is not the air
• 23:15
  Speaker 11: raid anymore. These are this is not a soft football team.
• 23:18
  Speaker 11: These are gonna be physical, tough, defensive minded football teams.
• 23:21
  Speaker 11: There's gonna be balanced on offense. Like you got a
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: head coach that's gonna tell it like it is. You know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: he's gonna be honest with players, You're gonna be honest
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: with the media, like all those things.
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: That culture reset is fantastic.
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: The only the only place I'm gonna go just to
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: set up expectations is that Jimmy Rodgers will leave at
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: some point. They all do, okay, and like that's okay.
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: We need to we gotta everybody needs to get out
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: of the mindset at Washington State that we need somebody
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: that's gonna be at Washington State long term, or we
• 23:45
  Speaker 11: need players they're gonna stay four years.
• 23:47
  Speaker 10: Because they're not.
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: And that's okay, because you can win like that, you
• 23:50
  Speaker 11: build programs in this day and age, you can have
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: success and and it'll be great and everybody will enjoy it,
• 23:56
  Speaker 11: and we should. You know, thank the John Mattiers and
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: the cam Wards on their way out for their service
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: and and you know, happy Jake Tiggert found a different place.
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: And we're happy and lucky that we have Jimmy Rodgers,
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: and so I just think that's super important. But there's
• 24:09
  Speaker 11: no doubt Washington State football is in a better place
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: December second than it was December second of last year.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I listen, I agree. For I was just talking
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to my my wife's cousins in town. He's a traveling nurse.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: He's an Alabama guy. Right, We're just talk about the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: d of the day because he's like, man, do you
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: think the board might go to Penn Stana. I go, no, no, No,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: there's like five jobs in this country you don't leave
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and until they tell you to leave. Alabama's Alabama is
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: one of them. Ye, you know, but what you said
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: is true, Like, I don't think any of us have
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: those expected like if Jimmy leaves or when Jimmy leaves.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: It's just because this thing's in a lot better shape
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: than it is at six and six too. I'll live
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: with that, and I'll live with what's going on in
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the new pac twelve. Right, I think I think if
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that Hell, I think if we're looking back, I'll be
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this is this sounds nuts. If we're sitting here in
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: six or seven, I'll probably be retired. But let's say,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: let's say we're just talking on our text chain. After
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm long retired in six or seven years and and
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and Jimmy's still there, that's probably not a
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: good thing, like what happened in those six or seven years,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: unless he just decides, Man, I want to be the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: mayor of Pullman. I'm going to love him after me.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But but I think you're right. I think all those
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: because there's old missus going the damn playoff and they
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: lost their coach, like, and they're in the SEC and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: they got all the money in the world. Alex right,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: you were down there. They got all kinds of money.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's good. Mkay. Were you I saw
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: you smiling there when he.
• 25:28
  Speaker 12: Was saying, you're not turning down ninety million dollars.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Oh I turned it down yesterday, buddy, Believe it or not.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: The uh I saw you smile at Mkay. You love
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the fact that's a defense first mentality too. I know
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: that that Araa drove you crazy for ten years, didn't.
• 25:41
  Speaker 12: It drove me absolutely insane? Ian But but listen, I
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: love what Jimmy's doing. The defense. We're we're literally, you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 12: a quarterback away a quarterback and a receiver away from
• 25:54
  Speaker 12: doing some big things. I love zeb but he's not
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: going to be the guy.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Right Well, so let me ask alexrol like, wherever they go, Memphis,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: New Mexico, wherever they end up going for a bowl game?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: How how if if Alex Sprink was on the coaching staff,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: how would you approach it offensively? Would you try to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: get Dougger or Potter some some snaps? I mean, I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: know Zebby, it's like it's his last game. You got
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: to start him and let him do his thing. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: would you use that at all as a jumping the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: springboard for next year?
• 26:21
  Speaker 11: I mean, I think you could, and it wouldn't be
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: a problem. I also think if you don't, it's not
• 26:28
  Speaker 11: an issue either way, right Like I don't. I don't
• 26:31
  Speaker 11: like a quarter or two of snaps for Dugger or
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: Potter is not gonna be the difference in them finding
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: success the following year or not. If If anything, the
• 26:41
  Speaker 11: conversations more about if if Julian Dugger puts on tape
• 26:44
  Speaker 11: what he did last year in the bowl game, he
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: ends up somewhere else because everybody loves the tools he has,
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: or something.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Like that, you know what I mean, Like Okay, I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: didn't think about that. Yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 11: Again, like, I don't know that would happen either. I'm
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: just saying, like, those are the conversations you're having. So
• 26:56
  Speaker 11: you know, look, I think you you run out Zebbe
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: obviously him do his thing, and if the opportunity presents
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: itself or you have a very specific plan to get
• 27:03
  Speaker 11: those other guys in, Like, yeah, get them in, But
• 27:06
  Speaker 11: I don't think it changes the trajectory of the quarterback
• 27:08
  Speaker 11: position at Washington State one way or the other.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Mkay. What do you want to see out of the
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: bowl game?
• 27:12
  Speaker 12: Uh? Well, one win?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Uh one.
• 27:14
  Speaker 12: I want to see myself and and sideline one on
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: the sideline and then and honestly, I just I just
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: want to see a clean game, you know what I mean.
• 27:23
  Speaker 12: I want to see a clean game. How that those
• 27:25
  Speaker 12: guys out there and have fun and end the season. Right.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, all right, fellas, Listen. I've enjoyed this
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: again this year. Uh just a ton of fun having
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you guys on every week.
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: And I get a lot of feedback from people, a
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: lot of Kook fans, especially especially them dudes over in
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: eastern Washington. My buddies are on the farm they sit
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: there and listen to the podcast. They've all figured out
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: how to use a podcast now, which is good, listen
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: to it later, which is cool.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's talk. Let's talk Shadai as they say, MK.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: House buying. What do we got going on? Man?
• 27:52
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• 27:54
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• 27:58
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• 28:03
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• 28:36
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• 28:38
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• 28:41
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• 28:43
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  Speaker 1: Dave Power play Rod you buy our good friends Isquahana Caboda.
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  Speaker 7: Here we go.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this right now. Crack it off for
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of days. Need somebody to score goals, need
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: some help offensively. Still sitting in a playoff position, having
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: a very nice season, but they could use help offensively.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: General manager Jason Botroll was meeting with the media today,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: including our own Mike Benton. Take a listening, Jason, you weigh.
• 30:30
  Speaker 14: A pretty delicate balance in between trying to remain competitive
• 30:33
  Speaker 14: but also usher the younger kids, the younger players here
• 30:36
  Speaker 14: into the mix. So as we get deeper into the
• 30:38
  Speaker 14: season and this team is still as well in the mix,
• 30:40
  Speaker 14: how real do you think it is to be active
• 30:42
  Speaker 14: in the trade market for upgrades this year versus waiting
• 30:46
  Speaker 14: it out and going for it even more next offseason
• 30:49
  Speaker 14: when you have the cap going up and other factors
• 30:51
  Speaker 14: to play as well.
• 30:52
  Speaker 15: No, And the one thing I just I would push
• 30:55
  Speaker 15: back a little bit on. I believe our development helps
• 30:57
  Speaker 15: us win hockey games, and I think it's it's always
• 31:00
  Speaker 15: a fine balance of Hey, when does a player need
• 31:03
  Speaker 15: to be in the American Hockey League work and when
• 31:04
  Speaker 15: they come up National Hockey League, I think you see
• 31:06
  Speaker 15: a lot of our players, especially a guy like Ryan Winterton,
• 31:10
  Speaker 15: playing different roles penalty kill and everything like there, you
• 31:12
  Speaker 15: still want to continue to develop his offensive game. And
• 31:15
  Speaker 15: that's what I give our staff a lot of credit
• 31:17
  Speaker 15: behind the scenes, things that maybe our fans don't see
• 31:20
  Speaker 15: on game night, but on off days, just our staff
• 31:23
  Speaker 15: working with Ryan on his puck skills, working on is
• 31:26
  Speaker 15: offensive game in and around the net, but also through
• 31:28
  Speaker 15: video too. So I like that our staff continues to, hey,
• 31:32
  Speaker 15: how can Ryan help our team right now in the
• 31:34
  Speaker 15: nationalk League? How do we continue to work with Ryan
• 31:36
  Speaker 15: so he helps us down the road from there. But look,
• 31:39
  Speaker 15: it's a scenario that we're continuing to look at, you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 15: in the trade market, on things that we can add
• 31:44
  Speaker 15: to our group and add different mixes to our group.
• 31:48
  Speaker 15: We have over the years certainly accumulated draft picks that
• 31:51
  Speaker 15: we we're certainly open to taking draft picks, but also
• 31:54
  Speaker 15: utilize them in different trades from the area. So it's
• 31:56
  Speaker 15: something that we continue to look at. But the one
• 31:59
  Speaker 15: thing I can to push back and one thing I
• 32:01
  Speaker 15: love that our coach staff is believed in is like, hey,
• 32:03
  Speaker 15: we develop these kids. That helps us win a lot
• 32:05
  Speaker 15: of hockey games, hopefully even this year.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Oh could I push back and watching pushing back on
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: my guy Benton, I will too. So Matti Vaniers has
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: three goals, he's your leading goal scorer. I'm sorry, check
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: that everly, I'm not all in terms of draft picks, Oh, okay,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: got it, let's see. Yeah goals, Shane Wright has five,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Matty Beaneers has three, Janny Newman, who's played only fifteen games,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: has three. Those your leading goal scores among your draft picks.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Young guys being developed, you need, you gotta find a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: way to score goals, and it's just not happening with
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: this team right now. So I would push back bots.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, your young guy's development and good. You
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: just don't have a high end guy. In terms of offense.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You have really good hockey players, yes, really good hockey players,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: but you've got a bunch of second and third line guys.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: What Mikey was asking there, and I think this is
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: what a lot of fans and Andrew you helped me
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: out here tell me because I don't want to speak
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: for fans, but I'm gonna speak for fans, tell me
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I think what fans want to see
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: is this team get aggressive and find the guy that
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: can put the puck in the net consistently, because you're
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: doing a great job at keeping the puck out of
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the net. Yeah, your goalies are fantastic, all three of them.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Even though Murray's hurt goals against average before the last
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: two games, your goals against average was second in the league,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: best second best in the league. You're scoring was thirty second.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: There's thirty two teams, So I think, am I right
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: our fans wanting to see more people score? I know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm out a text chain with you and some others.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Well I mean that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you have a lot of players where
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: that would be elevated if they had one of those
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: one or two of those high end players around them.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Right where if you're on at Dallas, a Colorado, a
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: New York, Vegas, those guys turn into fifty sixty seventy
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: point players because of the players that are around them. Correct,
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: But if you just try and build your roster with
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: those the supplemental players, which the Crack and I argue
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: you have done to this point right, they're not there.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna get to that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Point right, I'd make you can make an argument with
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Jade schwartz out that your best offensive players are both
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: guys that play in the blue line bred and they are.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: They're fantastic, yes.
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: But you need more than those guys.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it'd be interesting. I'm sure practice has been
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: quite pleasant this week for those guys after being shut
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: out in two of the last three games. So uh,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Laine Lambert, man, he's always offty in Fain tomorrow to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: three forty five. I'm gonna tell you, like this guy
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: has red ass all the way through. Man, he is
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: no nonsense. I like it. I like a guy, you know.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I we show video every every intermission coming back going
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: into the third period or second period and third period,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: like we show like the locker room, and I swear
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the last couple of times screaming it looks like there's
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: it's not even it's just like you could see this
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: like very emphatic, like getting his lineup card, not like
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: yeah I make it. Man, you got sometimes you got
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: to put the whip on the horse down home stretch
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: right and the way you go, uh pick and choose
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Lane's not content to sit there and say, hey,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: we're good defensively, but that No, the next step is
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that so good stuff by Mikey. I'm pushing back on you.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Botch don't be pushing back on Ben. Don't be pushing
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: back on Bell defender. Guys don't don't listens, as I
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: would say. Gotta be a response here, Johnny. Gotta be
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: a response here.
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: Who's gonna be responding.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I'm responding to the Bell, I'm responding. I'm responding. I'm
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: backing up my guy, the captain. No, I love Botch.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Box is great. He's very open. I appreciate that with
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: him as well. Okay, we'll rank come back check in next.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: John Lund, the cockroach that is the San Francisco forty nine.
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Well, last came about power rankings, like what he thinks
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: about that, like just especially in the NFC. All things
• 35:51
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to one here in just a couple of seconds.
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  Speaker 3: Answer your phone, John, Yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: You know it's.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I swear about the guy. He's like, he's you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you know how those you have these people that are
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: like really smart, yeah, but really stupid.
• 38:03
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people in the building into that.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because the first part is being really smart,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So I'll to go back really smart but kind of
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: like the dumbest smart person in the room. You know.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: That's that's our guys. And he's always been that way.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: He's just kind of if he was hot and blonde
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and a female we just say, you know, that's the issue.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: But he's none of the above. Well he's sort of blonde.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: But that's it. I'm done ripping them. We'll get to
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the line here in a second. One was jess Or
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Andrews can track him down. We'll talk Seahawks in NFC.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: You know, we're talking earlier about the power strup Where
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: would you put Chicago in that mix? Because we're just
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: talking about the best teams in the NFL dot Com
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Power rankings that they like. Where would you put the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bears into that mix? At nine and three? Do
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: we believe in the Bears? Because I mean I want
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: to not believe in them. I don't think I can
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: believe in them, but that that record doesn't lie. Philadelphia
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: looks what massively flawed. Andrews was talking about that earlier
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: when it seems to flawed Philadelphia. I don't know if
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts can figure out that he's got two elite
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: wide receivers on his team, that's weird.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: He just found a J Brown, I think for the
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: first time.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Which when you have that guy and this kind of
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: was the DK thing. Yeah, it was like, I don't
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: know if you call it a devil wide receiver or
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: how you want to guy wants the ball like he
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: has to. You have to get him the ball, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: you know hurts. I mean, DeVante's Smith been a little
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: bang up. The drop off for Saquon Barkley, and I
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: know Philip in the world of Philadelphia, it's great that
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, it's it's Lane. Johnson's her, Lane,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Johnson's her. What's going on? No, No, that's fine. A
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: lot of teams have problems there. Their drop off is
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: pretty significant. Tampa Bay beat Seattle. That's almost Notre Dame
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Miami like there seemed to be a little bit better
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: right now though kind of flow. They're playing a horrible
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: division anyway, Green Bay. Maybe you're starting to hit it strive. Yeah,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I mean there's it's but then the team that just
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: still scares the daylights out of me in San Francisco,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: which we'll get to here with John Lund here just
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of seconds. He joined us right now in
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  Speaker 1: the be complteenting hotline. You know I was saying this earlier.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: You know, you're you know London, like we all have
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: those friends like that are really smart, right, but they're
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: also but they're also kind of for me, but they're
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: kind of dumb. You're one of those smart dumb people.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: That's what you are, like, cause you're a pretty smart
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: like I give you a credit. You're I've known you
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: for a long time. You're a pretty smart guy. But
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you're kind of an airhead sometimes that's all that just yea, Yeah,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: that's fair. Yeah, if you were hot, and if you're
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: hot blonde and a woman, that'd be awesome.
• 40:39
  Speaker 13: Yeah that's I'm far from that. I'm more of the
• 40:41
  Speaker 13: elephant man. Yeah, I could not be further from a
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: I am a human tee.
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: That's not hot blond.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: That's pretty much true. Although you know what, I gotta
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: tell the story because I don't feel it. So you
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: did marry a hot blonde. She was what we called
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the fan girl back in the day.
• 40:56
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's that old you know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 13: you don't blank where you eat. It's bad. It was
• 41:02
  Speaker 13: a bad idea. But yeah, we had, Like you said,
• 41:04
  Speaker 13: I'm not very smart.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: We had the uh we had for everything. We had
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the girls back back. That was back in the day
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: when you could do things like I don't know, Mitch's
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: bigger dance on the radio, and we had fangirls that
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: basically had just like Hooters girls like Halter tops and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: went out with us and we did a remote down
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: in Portland with the fan. Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 13: It was incredible because they wouldn't even they wouldn't even
• 41:26
  Speaker 13: talk to us on remote. No, these girls would be
• 41:28
  Speaker 13: signing like posters, calendar things like that, and like you'd
• 41:31
  Speaker 13: be like, I'm over here and there guys are like
• 41:34
  Speaker 13: were you Well yeah, it was really embarrassing because there's
• 41:37
  Speaker 13: no one hanging out with us.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they just talk to the girls.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Married one of them, Yeah, you married one.
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: You married one.
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: Was really smart, it was really smart.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Really well, hey, listen, it went well for a day
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: or two probably. I mean, look, I got it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 13: I got a great kid out of it.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: You got George a whole lot.
• 41:56
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, you know that's pretty good.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
• 42:00
  Speaker 13: He's not that bright either, but you know it's okay.
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: We should bring that semester semester.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Well then, dude, more well, you're gonna get a raise.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. It's the greatest the world. Yeah,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: it's when they when that happens. Oh, it's it's so awesome.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, well, I love that.
• 42:17
  Speaker 13: I'm probably gonna do divorce number two at that point,
• 42:19
  Speaker 13: because you know, I would be like the money now
• 42:23
  Speaker 13: I'm here, because you're not listening, I'd be like.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Oh honey, I'm gonna I'm gonna circle back to what
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I said at the start. You know, you know those
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: guys are really smart but also dumb. There you go,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: there's another game example. All right, I love you, all right,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: John Litten with us right now. So we were we
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: were talking earlier. It was in my headlines and uh
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: and we got brought up. I think it's you know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: it's fun because the NFL actually does determine who's good
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: by playing games on like college football. But you know,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: we start talking about power rankings and things like that.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: It's kind of fine. Rams number one, Seattle number two.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with number t. I
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: think Seattle still has some have to prove. Are the
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Rams the best team in the NFL right now? Despite
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the loss to Carolina?
• 43:05
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I'm sure you watch that game. I mean,
• 43:08
  Speaker 13: Carolina just had a lot of things going right for him.
• 43:10
  Speaker 13: They are better than what we think. There's no doubt.
• 43:12
  Speaker 13: You know, Seattle's got to play them late. The Niners
• 43:15
  Speaker 13: struggle with them a little bit. They're a lot better
• 43:16
  Speaker 13: than you me. Everybody knows who Dave Canalis is. He
• 43:19
  Speaker 13: stopped through Seattle and he's a great motivator. I don't
• 43:21
  Speaker 13: trust Bryce Young, but that's not the question. The question
• 43:24
  Speaker 13: is the Rams. The only reason I think the Rams
• 43:27
  Speaker 13: are better than the Seahawks. And look, I like Sam
• 43:29
  Speaker 13: Darnold man, but he's making me a little bit nervous.
• 43:31
  Speaker 13: I think he's probably making Seattle nervous. If people are
• 43:33
  Speaker 13: being honest. Matthew Stafford, if he's on his game, which
• 43:36
  Speaker 13: he generally is, then they're really tough to beat. You
• 43:39
  Speaker 13: have the defense, the one thing that I think and
• 43:42
  Speaker 13: he played well against the Seahawks, but he did not
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: play well and as the secondary, they didn't play well.
• 43:47
  Speaker 13: Can the Seahawks attack the Rams secondary. That's what's gonna
• 43:51
  Speaker 13: come down to in that big game. Because Forbes, who
• 43:54
  Speaker 13: has been a revelation for them when they picked him
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: up from Washington, he was terrible in the Carolina game.
• 44:00
  Speaker 13: And they with those young receivers and they're big, they
• 44:02
  Speaker 13: got good size on them. You know, can Donald get
• 44:06
  Speaker 13: enough time in the pocket and make them pay because
• 44:09
  Speaker 13: everybody's got an achilles heel, and with Seattle, you know,
• 44:12
  Speaker 13: Donald's making me nervous. The defense is fine, can they
• 44:14
  Speaker 13: run the ball effectively enough? And you guys who had
• 44:16
  Speaker 13: a million conversations about that. The achilles heel for the
• 44:19
  Speaker 13: Rams is their secondary and as good as their front
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: seven in as good as they are getting to the
• 44:24
  Speaker 13: quarterback and creating chaos, if they don't do that on
• 44:26
  Speaker 13: a consistent basis, then that leaves their secondary vulnerable. And
• 44:30
  Speaker 13: that's why Carolina beat them on Sunday.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: When is a team in your area gonna go away
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: like they're like our Midday guy brought this up, and
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I agree. It's they're like a cockroach like you just
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: like you cannot kill them. They just are still there
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: nine and four. Like it's it's remarkable what Kyle's done
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: with that team. But I keep thinking they're gonna fall off,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: and they don't.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: Well I think they again.
• 44:53
  Speaker 13: I get it. I know where I am. So we're
• 44:55
  Speaker 13: talking to Seahawks man, So you're not gonna be you're
• 44:57
  Speaker 13: not going to agree with this. But if there's a
• 45:00
  Speaker 13: Coach of the Year, and Kyle Shanahan should be it,
• 45:04
  Speaker 13: and there just should be no question about it. They
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: have more money on the books. As far as players
• 45:09
  Speaker 13: not playing for them, they're paying people Shamuel thirty million
• 45:12
  Speaker 13: dollars not to play for them. The brand and Ayuk situation,
• 45:15
  Speaker 13: I'm sure you guys have stayed up on it. He's
• 45:17
  Speaker 13: a complete joke. You love the term dumpster fire, and
• 45:20
  Speaker 13: so do why that's what he is. Bosa is out,
• 45:23
  Speaker 13: warners out. All those different things are going on, and
• 45:25
  Speaker 13: yet and party has missed most of the season. All
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: these different things have gone wrong, and yet here they are.
• 45:31
  Speaker 13: And I don't know why, and I don't know how,
• 45:33
  Speaker 13: but they're they're just doing it defensively. I have no
• 45:36
  Speaker 13: idea what kind of wizardry Robert sala is kind of spell,
• 45:39
  Speaker 13: what kind of a you know, whether it's to deal
• 45:41
  Speaker 13: with the devil. They should not be playing this kind
• 45:44
  Speaker 13: of defense. I'd get at Shadura Sanders got exposed. He's terrible.
• 45:47
  Speaker 13: That's a horrible It's such an overrated story. But back
• 45:50
  Speaker 13: to what you're asking, I mean, they really haven't had
• 45:53
  Speaker 13: consistent performances from anyone outside of maybe Kittle, McCaffrey, Trent Williams.
• 46:00
  Speaker 13: Like there's a handful of guys. Everybody else is, you know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 13: a second third string player, young player. I don't know
• 46:05
  Speaker 13: how they're doing it, but it does illustrate, whether you
• 46:07
  Speaker 13: want to admit it or not, sitting in Seattle, that
• 46:10
  Speaker 13: Kyle Shanan is one of the top coaches in the league.
• 46:12
  Speaker 13: Whether he gets the award or not.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he I mean he's on a remark. They've made
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: great personal decisions. I thought when they let Hufongo walk,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a crazy move. I thought that
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: was nuts, like what you're doing. And I mean he's
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: starring for denverybody think.
• 46:24
  Speaker 13: Think about this. I don't mean to interrupt, you know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 13: but they got pissed. Everyone got upset because Greenlaw left.
• 46:30
  Speaker 13: He's done nothing in Denver. He's been hurt a lot.
• 46:31
  Speaker 13: How fun that we all knew, at least in San
• 46:33
  Speaker 13: Francisco that he was done all these different guys. You
• 46:36
  Speaker 13: saw Hardgrave for the Vikings. He was a big he
• 46:39
  Speaker 13: was an eighty million dollars signing by the by the
• 46:42
  Speaker 13: forty Nandersy. I think you have one good play in
• 46:44
  Speaker 13: that game against the Seahawks. He's nothing special. I mean,
• 46:46
  Speaker 13: they let a bunch of guys go. Deebo Shamuel is
• 46:49
  Speaker 13: fat and out of shape. They made the right decision
• 46:51
  Speaker 13: on him. So all these guys who were names who
• 46:54
  Speaker 13: used to be part of the glory days. So the
• 46:56
  Speaker 13: forty nine ers got released and everybody's up in ours
• 46:58
  Speaker 13: now and they even eight months at the same time.
• 47:01
  Speaker 13: But yet those guys have gone to other teams.
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: And they haven't done anything.
• 47:05
  Speaker 13: Funga has, in Greenlaw has and Deebo hasn't. Like that
• 47:07
  Speaker 13: whole group of guys that were a big part of
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: this rival between the Seahawks and the forty nine ers,
• 47:12
  Speaker 13: they let them all go. And I'm not saying all
• 47:14
  Speaker 13: the guys that they replaced him with have played well,
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: but the majority have.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: That's that's the John Schneider formula two, right, I mean,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: let Russ walk, let Gino walk, let DK walk. I
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: mean stuff like that. Let those guys go, don't you know?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And no, when to not sign a guy to a
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: second or third or fourth contract, whatever it might be.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And those are hard things to do, man, It's hard
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: to sit there and go, eh. I think. I think
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: like the DK thing is a great example. I know
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: they struggled with it, but you know, like he's he
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: just hasn't been the guy, everything's there, just has never clicked.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: And now we're on team number two. Now you can
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: make an argument that he's had bad quarterback play in Pittsburgh,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: but nevertheless it's team number two. They let him walk,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: they don't have to pay him, and well and behold,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: they got a guy that's probably a first team all
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: pH JSN has taken over. What when you watch Sam
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Darnald the last few weeks, do you see do you
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: see red flags?
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: I mean what I see is kind of here. I
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: know this isn't the exact comparison, but I'm seeing a
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: little bit from what I saw Kaepernick from Kaepernick at
• 48:17
  Speaker 13: the end. And it don't get me wrong, Donald is
• 48:20
  Speaker 13: leaps and downs ahead of that. But what I'm seeing
• 48:22
  Speaker 13: is is that when he's getting pressure, and what forced
• 48:24
  Speaker 13: Kaepernick out of the league is none of the things
• 48:27
  Speaker 13: that happened off the field. It was that when the
• 48:29
  Speaker 13: rush came and they took away read one in two,
• 48:32
  Speaker 13: his eyes went down. The rush started to come down,
• 48:35
  Speaker 13: come in, and his eyes went down and he got nervous.
• 48:37
  Speaker 13: And what we're starting to see from Donald now is
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: that when the rush is coming, he's not keeping the
• 48:42
  Speaker 13: eyes downfield. He's not staying confident in the pocket. He's
• 48:45
  Speaker 13: getting the happy feed. He's doing those kinds of things
• 48:47
  Speaker 13: that that people complained about at Minnesota and one of
• 48:50
  Speaker 13: the reasons why they didn't re sign him was the
• 48:53
  Speaker 13: end of that year and they were like, can this
• 48:55
  Speaker 13: guy be relied upon? Look, I think that this is
• 48:58
  Speaker 13: such a good team and a good offense and Kubiaks
• 49:00
  Speaker 13: then these great things, and he's got the players around them.
• 49:02
  Speaker 13: They're going to be fine. But there is a bit
• 49:05
  Speaker 13: of what the Rams did not every team can do.
• 49:09
  Speaker 13: But putting that kind of pressure on him, he does
• 49:11
  Speaker 13: look skittish in the pocket and his effectiveness is gone.
• 49:15
  Speaker 13: Now I realize what Brian Flores is a hell of
• 49:18
  Speaker 13: a defensive coordinator. First of all, he's given Kyle Shannan
• 49:21
  Speaker 13: we just talked about. He's given Kyle Shannan a lot
• 49:24
  Speaker 13: of trouble throughout the years of his boots, packages and
• 49:26
  Speaker 13: different things that he does. So Brian Flor is a
• 49:28
  Speaker 13: little bit different. The Rams doing what they're doing is
• 49:31
  Speaker 13: a little bit different. But those are the kind of
• 49:32
  Speaker 13: teams you're going to see in the playoffs. And to me,
• 49:34
  Speaker 13: and you tell me if I'm wrong here, the expectation
• 49:36
  Speaker 13: level has grown with the Seax. A few told fans
• 49:39
  Speaker 13: at the beginning of the season, Hey, they'll win eleven
• 49:41
  Speaker 13: twelve games, getting in the playoffs, maybe get to the
• 49:43
  Speaker 13: second round. I think the Seahawks fans would be ecstatic.
• 49:45
  Speaker 13: But now the better you get, the more that the
• 49:48
  Speaker 13: expectations rise. And now with all the san you just
• 49:51
  Speaker 13: mentioned power rankings, I think people in Seattle are thinking
• 49:56
  Speaker 13: this is a super Bowl team. Well, I think there's
• 49:57
  Speaker 13: a lot of optimism and reason for that, but you
• 50:00
  Speaker 13: don't you have to question whether Sam Darnold can do
• 50:03
  Speaker 13: it against the better competition, because now you're looking at
• 50:06
  Speaker 13: a Rams team. You're not that Minnesota's got a great,
• 50:08
  Speaker 13: great defense, but Flora's is a great defensive coordinator. Are
• 50:12
  Speaker 13: are they going to be able to play this way
• 50:13
  Speaker 13: and be this good against the better teams in the
• 50:16
  Speaker 13: league who are going to shut down the long passing
• 50:18
  Speaker 13: game and say, Okay, you're gonna have to go fourteen
• 50:21
  Speaker 13: to fifteen plays eighty eighty five yards on them. Yeah,
• 50:24
  Speaker 13: and they do that consistently.
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I think John Long with it. I think, you know,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: he's got to prove it against I mean with Owen,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: you know, lose to the Rams, lose the forty nine ers, right,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, those are the those are your tests so far,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: those are those are litmus tests. So you got to
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: be and frankly, if you don't beat you got to beat.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: You gotta beat the Rams in two weeks because if
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you don't, you're not gonna win the division and you'll
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: be a wild card team. Which is fine. I mean,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: get in the playoffs, that's just the first goal.
• 50:44
  Speaker 13: But as long as you play the South, as long
• 50:45
  Speaker 13: as you play either Tampa or the Panthers, I guess
• 50:47
  Speaker 13: you should be okay. But I get your point, which
• 50:49
  Speaker 13: is you'd much rather just win the division right and
• 50:54
  Speaker 13: deal with the consequence of that, although, like I said,
• 50:56
  Speaker 13: I hate playing this game. The four or five matchup
• 50:58
  Speaker 13: is Tampa or the Carolina the if you're two or three,
• 51:02
  Speaker 13: you might get you might get Philly or something in
• 51:04
  Speaker 13: the first round, so you could play that game, but
• 51:06
  Speaker 13: you're My point is is that you want to do
• 51:08
  Speaker 13: this thing right and get as high of a seat
• 51:09
  Speaker 13: as you possibly can.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Well, the other part of it is too. If you're
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Seattle and Green Bay and you know you got to
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: look back at San Francisco because I think what you
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: just said is key. You start looking at the matchups
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: right now. Your first round matchup would be the Rams
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco. How about that?
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: That's awesome?
• 51:28
  Speaker 10: Huh like that the Rams really?
• 51:30
  Speaker 13: Well, you'd be a Niners fan then, right, yeah?
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no yeah, no, no, no, no, you would
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: be because you think because you you'd rather take your
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: chances with as many you know, things go on and
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: gone well for San Francisco. Still take your chances there
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: as opposed as Matt Stafford. Yeah, you're that would be
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the one matchup. Philadelphia Green Bay also a first round matchup,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: and then Tampa Bay Seattle. Yeah, you're like, you better
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: finish fifth. Really you want to finish fifth because you're right,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: even though Tampa Bay came up here and beat Seattle,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: sales defense is way better now than it wasn't and
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: that I'll take that all day. I'm still I brought
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: this up with Andrews earlier. Do we believe it all
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: in Chicago? Like, like really can't? That's like that's a mirage,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's the lake in the middle of the desert,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah?
• 52:16
  Speaker 13: Well, here here's what I don't understand, and look, sports
• 52:19
  Speaker 13: doesn't always have to make sense. And it's not because
• 52:21
  Speaker 13: I'm not a Caleb Williams guy, But I don't know.
• 52:24
  Speaker 13: It's one of those things. They're kind of like Washington
• 52:26
  Speaker 13: a year ago. To me is that I like what
• 52:29
  Speaker 13: they do. They've got a lot of talent on that team,
• 52:31
  Speaker 13: but Cayle, at the end of the day, it's about quarterback.
• 52:33
  Speaker 13: Playing the playoffs. Caleb Williams is a sub sixty percent
• 52:37
  Speaker 13: completion guy. Now, I know that's a bit like batting average.
• 52:39
  Speaker 13: I understand that, but still, I just you know, he's
• 52:42
  Speaker 13: made plays and it's mattered all those kind of things.
• 52:44
  Speaker 13: I get it. I just think in the playoffs, the
• 52:46
  Speaker 13: smoking mirrors that's going on with the Bears right now,
• 52:48
  Speaker 13: that's just not gonna work. Now, well, I just I
• 52:54
  Speaker 13: just think you're gonna have a good defensive game plan
• 52:56
  Speaker 13: against him, and you're gonna say, look, we'll stop the
• 52:58
  Speaker 13: run and all these kind of things. You got to
• 53:00
  Speaker 13: make sure you beat us. And they do have some
• 53:01
  Speaker 13: talent around him. I'm not saying that they don't, but
• 53:05
  Speaker 13: I'm just simply saying I don't trust Caleb Williams. And
• 53:07
  Speaker 13: when you get into the playoffs and you're looking at
• 53:10
  Speaker 13: one score games generally three four point games. Is he
• 53:13
  Speaker 13: going to be able to, you know, take his team
• 53:14
  Speaker 13: down the field like he's been able to do in
• 53:17
  Speaker 13: the regular season plus the other thing, And look, you
• 53:19
  Speaker 13: can only play who's in front of you. I understand
• 53:21
  Speaker 13: that they haven't played the best schedule, just like New
• 53:23
  Speaker 13: England hasn't played the best schedule. So you know, we'll see.
• 53:26
  Speaker 13: But yeah, we are completely dismissing the Bears, and I'm.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Fine with that. Joe joining us right now. And we
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: move back to Sola for a second. In this day
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: and age in which all these coaches are leaving in
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: college and running around guys getting second chances. The job
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: he's done there this year, does he get a second
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: chance as a head coach in the NFL? I mean
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: he went to basically, you know, the the dungeon, the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: purgatory of all things NFL before nobody can win there.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Glenn's finding that out right now, right,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's impossible. And that dumpster fire of
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: us of an organization to use that term against right now, right,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is, They're awful. I'm aware, Joe Joe
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Willie named I think coming back anytime soon. Aware, this
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: isn't this is in the late sixties, this is this
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: is now. They're not good. Uh does Salli get a chance?
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Because I think we'd all like to see him go
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: somewhere else and get the hell out of San Francisco. Yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, if you ever sat down to talk
• 54:19
  Speaker 13: with this guy, he is the Dictionary definition of leader
• 54:23
  Speaker 13: of men. He is just he is so good and so.
• 54:26
  Speaker 13: What I mean why I'm saying that is that when
• 54:29
  Speaker 13: he gets in a situation where he's interviewing, the owner
• 54:31
  Speaker 13: is just going to be, you know, very excited. Uh
• 54:35
  Speaker 13: you know, they're just gonna be like, oh my god,
• 54:36
  Speaker 13: we've got to hire this guy. So but here here's
• 54:39
  Speaker 13: the question, because I've talked to roberts All about this recently,
• 54:42
  Speaker 13: which is now he's got to be selected because, like
• 54:44
  Speaker 13: you said, the Jets, Jets are a complete dumpster fire.
• 54:48
  Speaker 13: I have no idea what anybody gets out of being
• 54:49
  Speaker 13: a jetsman. They won the Super Bowls in sixty nine.
• 54:51
  Speaker 13: What exactly do you get out of being a jetstory
• 54:54
  Speaker 13: toughness and resiliency, Yeah right, you can get that in
• 54:58
  Speaker 13: a lot of different ways. A I have a child
• 55:01
  Speaker 13: that'll treat all those that you don't need to be
• 55:03
  Speaker 13: a Jets fan. But anyway, that's a sidebar. My point
• 55:05
  Speaker 13: is is that now it's up to Robert Sala because
• 55:08
  Speaker 13: as bad as the Jets situation is, that was your
• 55:10
  Speaker 13: first chance, your second one better be right or you
• 55:13
  Speaker 13: may not get a third. So you look at a
• 55:15
  Speaker 13: guy like Mike Shanahan goes to Al Davis and the
• 55:17
  Speaker 13: Raiders stinks, goes to Denver win Super Bowls. You can
• 55:19
  Speaker 13: be a great coach, and you know Bill Belichick went
• 55:21
  Speaker 13: to the Browns before he went to the Patriots. It
• 55:24
  Speaker 13: happens all the time. But you better hit on the
• 55:26
  Speaker 13: second one because then then the league starts going, well,
• 55:29
  Speaker 13: maybe it's you. And so you know, there's a lot
• 55:32
  Speaker 13: of opportunities. There's gonna be a lot of opportunities in
• 55:34
  Speaker 13: this league, and I think that Salo is going to
• 55:35
  Speaker 13: be near the top for a lot of them. But
• 55:37
  Speaker 13: he's got to be selective in the job that he
• 55:39
  Speaker 13: takes because if you take a job like Mike McDonald
• 55:41
  Speaker 13: did in Seattle, there's a history there of being successful,
• 55:45
  Speaker 13: and so you're going to go into that situation thinking Okay,
• 55:47
  Speaker 13: I could be successful. You go to the Jets, you
• 55:49
  Speaker 13: go to the Giant. I could see the Giants wanting
• 55:52
  Speaker 13: to get him, because what happens a lot of times
• 55:53
  Speaker 13: is Brian Dables an offensive mind. What do you want
• 55:56
  Speaker 13: to do next time you want to go to defense?
• 55:58
  Speaker 13: A lot of times owners will go to the office
• 56:00
  Speaker 13: and of what they just had. So I could see
• 56:02
  Speaker 13: them saying, well, he knows what New York is about.
• 56:04
  Speaker 13: Let's you know, they've got some defensive pieces. But if
• 56:07
  Speaker 13: I'm Robert Solid, there's no way I go to the Giants.
• 56:09
  Speaker 13: It's just a dysfunctional organization. So long way to answer
• 56:13
  Speaker 13: your question, which is yeah, I think Solo will get
• 56:16
  Speaker 13: an opportunity, and if he wants a job, he'll be
• 56:18
  Speaker 13: out of this division, which is good news for everybody
• 56:20
  Speaker 13: else in the division. But now it's up to him
• 56:22
  Speaker 13: to be selective. He's not going to just jump at
• 56:24
  Speaker 13: any opportunity get Yeah.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, is he Steve Spagnola or is he a
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: guy that can get is he Belichick and Carol or
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: what have you? Right? And you know, great coordinator that
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: should just stay a coordinator or do you end up
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: being a good head coach if as you say, you're
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: sitting across from a guy leader, a man, a guy
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: that can do all those things. And you know that's
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: that's good, all right? That yeah, which good. Get him
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: the hell out of San Francisco. Let him go someplace else. Yeah,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: he can move on anytime. Maybe go somewhere in the AFC.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: That'd be even better, all right. One tell people the
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• 57:52
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  Speaker 13: at Utah, the Strits coordinator, his all of his families
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  Speaker 13: at b YU. Like, it's it's a different deal there,
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  Speaker 13: plus recruiting for him versus returning. It's just a different deal.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's here's the thing that Penn stage job,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: James Franklin winning ten eleven games every year, got fired.
• 58:11
  Speaker 13: And it wasn't good enough.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Like meanwhile, you're.
• 58:14
  Speaker 13: Get a good but just get a good buyout. Like
• 58:16
  Speaker 13: I mean, if I was James Franklin, I'd be on
• 58:18
  Speaker 13: an island. I'd never work again. But he wants to
• 58:20
  Speaker 13: go back to coaching at Virginia Tech. That's fine whatever,
• 58:22
  Speaker 13: But I mean he could have been like Brian Kelly
• 58:24
  Speaker 13: and just got fifty million dollars. So it's really not
• 58:25
  Speaker 13: a bad job because if you get fired, you get
• 58:28
  Speaker 13: fifty million dollars not to work, which is my goal.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: How much would it take for me? It would only
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: take like five million if.
• 58:36
  Speaker 13: You exactly, somebody's gonna pay you not to work whenever
• 58:41
  Speaker 13: he goes. What's the best job in the world, paid
• 58:43
  Speaker 13: not to work?
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: The best job A lot of money.
• 58:46
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, that's the best of the world.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to go back. I'm gonna go back
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  Speaker 1: and prove something to kJ R. I'm gonna work again. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm good, see.
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  Speaker 13: Exactly, I'm gonna We're.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna go down to Santa Clair and bother one. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm to do. I'm gonna go down and bother you.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, I know you. I know you say you
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  Speaker 13: like the people you work with. But let's be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Come, I only say that publicly, all right, imagine. Hey,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the worst thing is I don't want to think about
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  Speaker 1: what they say behind my back before I get in.
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  Speaker 13: Every day I've talked to him. It is not nice.
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  Speaker 13: Would really hurt your ego, really hurt your feelings. But
• 59:22
  Speaker 13: I was sworn to secrecy.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Nothing says it. Nothing says keeping a secret
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: like telling them one. All right, we'll talk to you soon.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Take care of my buy see you shut out the door.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: There's there's our ugly blonde. She's gone just like that.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Her name is John. Okay, what are we at? We'll
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: take a break, come back, maybe check a text or
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  Speaker 1: two if I can get the thing to work. Otherwise
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Andrews will read a text or two, and then Jessamine
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  Speaker 1: There's been one. There's been one, two, three, four, five, six,
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  Speaker 1: seven picks. Six picks made already today before Jess. One
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  Speaker 1: pick's already in the books for the week that will
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  Speaker 1: be a win by us. M Andrews. Give me update
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  Speaker 1: the the winning streak we're on.
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  Speaker 5: We are on an eight pick winning streak, all right.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: So that's all of last week, this pick, and then
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: all of the week prior as well.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get to the pick, Jess, let's keep that thing.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's make it lucky number nine. What he got?
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  Speaker 4: All Right, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: This is not even though there's three teams in New York, right,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: this is not me rooting with my heart.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not paid.
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  Speaker 1: I can confirm there are three teams in the state
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: of New York yet, right, Jet's Giants.
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  Speaker 4: The Bills two of them.
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  Speaker 2: I have, you know, some personal affinity for Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going with the other one, the Bills minus five and
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  Speaker 2: a half as they take on at home take on
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati this weekend. So Bills minus five and a half.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're going to smoke them.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Bills minus five and a half hosting the Bengals hosting
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals. Fact four nine, four or five one? If
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  Speaker 1: you disagree, fiction four nine four or five one.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm just? I'm just and I and the pick
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: it's juicy.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson still out. I don't think Joe Burrow is
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: even close to being.
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  Speaker 4: What he is capable of.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: And well, one team's one team's four and eight and
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the other one is eight and four something to play for.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: One team's kind of getting a little desperation mode, the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: other one's or wine mailing it in.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, and so I have to pick.
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  Speaker 1: I think this feels like nine straight wins for US nine.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Have you updated the show or host Stanningxanders?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: They are updated, not through yesterday's win, it's through last week.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Just look and see what yesterday's win does for us.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: That would make US twenty six and thirty one, Just
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: for a point of reference, that would be one game
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: behind Softy and Dick. I bring that up for this reason.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: It's interesting listening to their show yesterday and Jackson giggling
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: and googling all over.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Him, say, can they have a chance to catch Chuck
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: and Buck?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: They better be worried more about not finishing behind us. Yeah,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: we're one game back. This is a this is another win.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Is a very Jackson thing to do.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: It's hyper ventilating.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: I think it's like the excitable part of it. Yeah,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: yet he gets excitable.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: And he should love the enthusiasm. They're jf But here's
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: the problem. You better worry about us, you know, shouldn't
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: be worried about Chuck and Buck. They'd have to run
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the table this week to getch Chuck and Buck. There
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: are five games back and midday we got have a
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: little harder time catching him. They're three up on us.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Actually they're two up on us after yesterday. What little
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: hard time. I think we're gonna get ourselves out of
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: the basement.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I think so too.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, I just realized, I know no
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: one took my pick, but Chris took the opposite of.
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  Speaker 4: Me, didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I always end up picking the same game, except he
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: made the wrong choice early except Natty. Yeah, and at
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: the time he picked it was uh, yep, it was
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  Speaker 2: a five point spread.
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  Speaker 4: I got it five and a half. Pretty similar, But yeah, he.
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  Speaker 3: Took difference because it pushes a fiction anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the hook doesn't usually matter. So oh, we like this,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. All right, Buffalo minus five and
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  Speaker 3: I do that on purpose to kind of freaking out.
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  Speaker 7: Oh I don't care, really.
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  Speaker 4: No, that was actually the basis of the conversation.
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  Speaker 16: You do it on purpose because you don't know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Andrews, it.
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  Speaker 16: Took me like twenty years to admit that at this
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  Speaker 16: radio station that I have no idea what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 16: you started, they expect way.
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  Speaker 1: Less of you. You started in his position sort of,
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  Speaker 16: Absolutely not No, No, I mean if you train you,
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  Speaker 16: give me, give me.
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  Speaker 16: The problem is if we if you and I knew
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  Speaker 16: how to do that, no, no, no, If you and
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  Speaker 16: I knew how to do that, no no, there's no
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  Speaker 16: need for him.
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  Speaker 1: There's kind of no need for her.
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  Speaker 16: Well, there might not be a need for you anyway.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, you're right. But the more jobs we can do,
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  Speaker 10: Need around here.
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  Speaker 7: I don't want I don't want to learn his job.
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  Speaker 16: I don't want to put Anders out of a Gigy's
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  Speaker 16: having a baby for crying out.
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  Speaker 1: No, we don't need to do man. No, And you
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely not, Okay, ask you this, absolutely, ask you this.
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  Speaker 1: We could do your job, though. Could you do Jackson's job?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 7: What?
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  Speaker 1: What job is that?
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  Speaker 12: What does he do?
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  Speaker 6: Again? Here?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 16: Hey, by the way, did you guys see who missed
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 16: the first drive that last night for the Giants?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Did he?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 10: Yep?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 17: Didn't play missed the first drive? Wait a second, No,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 17: you guys not talked about I didn't know that. Go
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 17: to ESPN it's.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 10: A huge story.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: It's all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: So he detrimental, all right, So it was so that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: guy was right.
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  Speaker 16: Well, I mean, we don't we don't know why he
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  Speaker 16: was out there. I don't know who that guy is.
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  Speaker 16: That Wesley Steinberg tell.
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  Speaker 1: You were telling us that was like a I thought
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: it was a parody because Seth, he's not.
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  Speaker 7: He's never heard of him.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: He has no idea who he is. Hey, go cart
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: there it is there, it is all Now does it
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: say why ESPN? But in there that he was watching
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: porn in a.
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  Speaker 4: Meeting the Disney owned channel.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Well maybe it was. Maybe it was Mickey and Minnie.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Who knows?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 10: It was like anime?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean does that count as porn?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 13: Yeah?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm asking our porn expert, David Maller.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Does talk about anyway, Never updated.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Jackson walks in shake, looks at you and shakes his
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: head and walks out just what shakes his head like
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: like you're a child.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 7: All I said, you got to defend me.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: All I said is he missed the first drive. That's
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: all I said.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 8: You did.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: You did say that your guy took it to a
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: whole Yeah, it has been.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: It's been widely, widely shut down, and that is the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: reason who.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Mike Mike Mike Kafka described as a coach decision, my decision.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: That's it. Okay. Carter was asked after the game, why
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: was disciplined? Blank happens. I'm not going to go into details.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Blank happens, buddy.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 16: Have the New York If there's anybody who would have
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 16: the guts, would be the New York media to say
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 16: a report that you were watching pornography in a meeting?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, somebody had to have asked, as a very
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: New York media person.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: There's like a million people there. How could not one
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: person ask?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: Okay?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: So he's also been suspended for the first drive in
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: previous games.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: The correct So let's go to the New York Post
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: the taboys. That's right, That's what I.
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  Speaker 16: Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna text my guide
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 16: to Tino. All right, he's the he's the giant reporter
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  Speaker 16: for w F find out. I will ask him to
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 16: get to the bottom. This is a very important story here.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 16: Is it true that Abdul Carter missed the first drive
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 16: last night because he was caught watching porn in a
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 16: team meeting.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Question mark a guy?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: Huh, he's only a Syrian?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you never seen? This is how he texts?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: It's weird?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Why is it weird? I don't think it's weird to
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: hear your inner thoughts.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 16: Somebody's got to hear them. I hear my thoughts all
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 16: the time because the voices in your head? Tons, how
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 16: many voices do you have in your head? Millions going
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 16: on at one time? To pick and shoose the one?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I wanted to decipher what comes out into the SERI?
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  Speaker 16: You know what, whatever just flows out when the mouth
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 16: opens up. Man, I just like the show. At three o'clock,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 16: people always ask me. They probably ask you the same question, Hey,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 16: what are you talking about today?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 16: I got a phone call from a guy at two
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 16: twenty this afternoon. What are you talking about? I had
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 16: no idea? Ask me now what I'm talking about at
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 16: three o'clock? Are you talking about?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 7: I don't have any idea.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: How many times you asked me that? Lord Daly?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: You mean when I leave your voice, mas, just what.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Do you want to? What do you want to hit
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: on today? I want to I want to plan and
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: have a script and go across the street. We don't
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: do that. Have gotten to the point though that I thinking,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: there's this laugh track for the morning show. A guy
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: has to put in there. Laugh here. Mike said, so
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: is that true?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: You work there?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
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  Speaker 4: People's roles have been described as such at times?
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  Speaker 12: How do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, do we do what dark time in
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  Speaker 1: By then come over here and right down the tournament essentially, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Hey, tease your show?
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  Speaker 12: What's coming up?
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  Speaker 13: I don't know.
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  Speaker 16: What's Today's Today Tuesday with the Hell Today, Today's the
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  Speaker 16: Final Husky Hanks at four o'clock with Mario and Greg
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  Speaker 16: talking about the loss to Oregon, looking ahead to whatever
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  Speaker 16: ball game they're playing in. John Wilner will join us
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  Speaker 16: on the show as well. The Fun with Audio and
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  Speaker 16: we do have a couple of fun can you.
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  Speaker 1: Just tackle the Abdual Carter story right off the get go.
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  Speaker 7: For me, we just did.
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  Speaker 1: I brought it up here because that's why I like
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  Speaker 1: doing this segment, man, Because Jackson walked in right when
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  Speaker 1: then he shook his head and walked away. He doesn't know.
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  Speaker 1: He's disgusted. I want you to bring it up again.
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  Speaker 16: I'll bring it up just for you, but for the
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  Speaker 16: solong everyone