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NFL Week 16 DFS Saturday Slate Strategy | DraftKings FanDuel Picks and Optimal Builds · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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Speaker 1: We left. What's going on? Everyone, Welcome to the ship.
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Speaker 1: At Nation Week sixteen Saturday Show, we're here breaking down
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Speaker 1: the two game Saturday slate. Big prize pools across the industry,
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Speaker 1: and we kind of talked about it leading up to this.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the season, a lot of different slates.
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Speaker 1: You get these two game slates, you get these the
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Speaker 1: Christmas slates. You'll get a lot more Showdown from from
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Speaker 1: here on out all the way through the playoffs. These
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Speaker 1: two game slates are very popular. Prize pools are big,
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Speaker 1: and they're a lot of fun. A little bit different,
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Speaker 1: you know, used to these big slates. We're used to
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Speaker 1: the Showdown slates. It's a two so a little bit
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Speaker 1: different strategy that needs to be employed. We'll talk about
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Speaker 1: all that joined by title, you know, initial thoughts here
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Speaker 1: on this two game slate, and after that will kind
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Speaker 1: of hop into everything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: First, so we are not doing the cast. This is
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Speaker 3: in place for the Cash Show. We will still have
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Speaker 3: the cash cores. Like always, late in the year, there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of unknowns, a lot of things change, So
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Speaker 3: on Friday it's a little harder to yeah, like Drake
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Speaker 3: London in so that we're talking the Saturday the two
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Speaker 3: games slate, Well again Sunday, we'll talk a little bit
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Speaker 3: cash stuff, look it over ship a nation for the cores.
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Speaker 3: Projections are always up, et cetera. But yeah, I'm excited
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Speaker 3: for these two games.
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Speaker 2: Slates. Prizes, like you said, are always good.
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Speaker 3: Staggered start time, which is nice to get the five
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Speaker 3: eastern and wow, that's a yeah five eastern nine or
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Speaker 3: eight twenty eastern. Pretty late Chicago and the Packers so
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Speaker 3: late swap comes into play, really big night game Bears,
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Speaker 3: Packers for the division, for the NFC Eagles, pretty big favorites. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: initial thoughts, just like looking at pricing, double tight end
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Speaker 3: will be relatively popular. Again, you got some people in
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Speaker 3: a like going to be extraordinarily popular, like Sakuon looking
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Speaker 3: at the running back room, he's projected like three and
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Speaker 3: a half four points higher than the next Vegas.
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Speaker 2: So we'll go position by position.
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Speaker 3: I think that's best, and then we'll touch on fando
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Speaker 3: to a look at pricing to see if anything differs.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, limited player pool.
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Speaker 3: That means it's kind of like a showdown in the
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Speaker 3: sense of it's kind of a dupe game. You can
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Speaker 3: overstack a game you can leave money like always. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: we'll go through it, but yeah, it's my initial thoughts.
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Speaker 3: Really good night game. The first game you can see
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Speaker 3: commanders only applied for nineteen points. Mariota is going to
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Speaker 3: be back there the rest of the year with Daniels out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know a lot of times when we talk
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Speaker 1: about these two games slates, people will really want to, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: what sort of correlation can I play the defense against
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Speaker 1: my quarterback? Like you can do all that stuff. You
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Speaker 1: can play quarterback plus three with no runback, you can
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Speaker 1: play quarterback plus three with on the other side, and
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Speaker 1: just like fully game stack and hope the other game
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Speaker 1: doesn't go off defense versus quarterbacks. Totally fine. It's kind
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Speaker 1: of like no hold barge, like you're going you're in
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Speaker 1: on anything, anything and everything. There's not many sort of
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Speaker 1: builds that I'd be opposed to personally, So that's just
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Speaker 1: kind of one thing to note. And like you said,
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some popular plays as we go on.
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Speaker 1: We're going to go position by position primarily talk DK,
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Speaker 1: but we'll also go through and see if anything differs
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Speaker 1: over on FanDuel. But a lot of the conversation is
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Speaker 1: definitely applicable to both sites. So starting at the quarterback position,
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Speaker 1: and I have Saber up. I have our projections, but
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Speaker 1: you can also see Sabers projections in here as well.
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Speaker 1: The most expensive quarterback is Hurts at sixty nine hundred,
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Speaker 1: Jordan Love fifty seven, Caleb Williams fifty five, Mariota five k.
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Speaker 1: You look at ownership, we're showing Jalen Hurts at forty four.
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Speaker 1: Saber has it at fifty, so upper forties. I'll say
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Speaker 1: we have Jordan Love at twenty three percent, Saber has
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Speaker 1: it at twenty. We have Caleb Williams at twenty, they
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Speaker 1: have it at nineteen, Mariota twelve and a half, they
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Speaker 1: have it at ten, So everything's in the same range.
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Speaker 1: It looks like Jalen Hurts is gonna be far and
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Speaker 1: away the most popular quarterback, which I guess somewhat interesting
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Speaker 1: because he hasn't had the best season. But the reason
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Speaker 1: I think he's getting so much ownership is the uncertainty
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Speaker 1: of the other guys like Jordan Move, Caleb Williams, Mariota.
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Speaker 1: It's not a good spot for him. So talk through
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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks your preference, and then like one thing, I
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Speaker 1: definitely have done in the past, which I don't think
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Speaker 1: I'll be doing here is on these smaller slaves, just
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Speaker 1: eliminate one of these quarterbacks. I don't see myself doing
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Speaker 1: that today, Like I personally plan on playing all of them. So, yeah,
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Speaker 1: talk through the ownership these guys and any kind of
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Speaker 1: strategy that you might be looking to the.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and totally in agreement where I will not be
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Speaker 3: exing any of them out. The thing is is three
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Speaker 3: of the four have rushing upside. Jordan Love is the
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Speaker 3: one that really doesn't. But we have Hurts twenty eight
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Speaker 3: and a half rushing prop, Mariota twenty eight and a
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Speaker 3: half rushing prop Cale Williams eighteen and a half Love
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Speaker 3: all the way down to eight and a half. So
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Speaker 3: three guys that can run that can get there with
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Speaker 3: their legs. The big difference between Hurts and the rest
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Speaker 3: is the tush push equity, the rushing touchdown equities plus
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Speaker 3: one zh five to score and that goes a long way.
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Speaker 2: One rushing touchdown.
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Speaker 3: We're seeing these totals pretty low team totals again. Twenty
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Speaker 3: three we're seeing for the Bears in Green Bay, twenty
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Speaker 3: six for the Eagles. One rushing touchdown can be enough
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Speaker 3: on the slates now in terms of ownership Jalen Hurts,
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Speaker 3: we have it at forty three percent. If that is
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Speaker 3: the case, just looking at the stone, I mean we
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Speaker 3: have a higher optimal percentage on Jalen Hurts, Like, I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if it was like a fifty. If
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Speaker 3: it's forty three, though, I think I just want to
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Speaker 3: get overweight there. We haven't rejected as we're showing about
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Speaker 3: four points higher than the rest. So he's obviously my favorite.
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Speaker 3: But after that, the thing about Mariota, and again I'm
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Speaker 3: kind of talking through this with you and deciding what
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Speaker 3: I really want to do, is a lot of garbage time.
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Speaker 3: There's opportunity for Mariota if they get behind two touchdowns
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Speaker 3: and he has to drop back a bunch. Like looking
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Speaker 3: at the passing attempts prop, that was something I was
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Speaker 3: intrigued about. We had let me see, it was all
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Speaker 3: really close on all of them. Jalen Hurts actually had
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Speaker 3: the least amount of passing attempts prop Twenty eight and
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Speaker 3: a half, Mariota twenty nine and a half, and both
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Speaker 3: Cale Williams and Jordan Love thirty one and a half. Now,
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Speaker 3: I think when it's all said and done, Mariota probably
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Speaker 3: drops back the most because they're down and they have
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Speaker 3: to throw a lot. And also when it comes to
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Speaker 3: his pass catchers outside of Terry McClure and like, they're
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Speaker 3: all really low owned and you can just go Mariota
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Speaker 3: and Terry. So I think I am going to have
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Speaker 3: we're showing Mariota at twelve percent the least own quarterback
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Speaker 3: on the slate. I think I like him a decent
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Speaker 3: bit if he is going to be the lowest owned,
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Speaker 3: and then you can easily play Saku and you can
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Speaker 3: play aj Brown, you can play Devonte Smith, like guys
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Speaker 3: on the Eagles are gonna get ownership and not playing
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Speaker 3: Hurts with it. Playing Mariota hope he gets close to
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Speaker 3: Hurts in projection is a way I think you can
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Speaker 3: indiffer it in that first game when eating chalk, So yeah,
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Speaker 3: I do like Mariota quite a bit. In that second game,
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Speaker 3: I'm worried about the Bears just trying to run the football.
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Speaker 3: I mean, pretty we know Noah Doone's Day, we know
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Speaker 3: no Luther Burden. They got Manung guy, they got swift,
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Speaker 3: and they just want to drop back hand the ball
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Speaker 3: off as much as they can thirty plus times in
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Speaker 3: this game and not have to throw it to Zakias
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Speaker 3: and all these other guys. So I think kill is
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Speaker 3: my least favorite right now. And Jordan loved. The nice
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Speaker 3: thing about him is he just has We always talk
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Speaker 3: about it. It's good and bad. There's so many options
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Speaker 3: that he can throw it to. Obviously it has condensed
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Speaker 3: a little bit with like no Tucker Craft, but Jayden
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Speaker 3: Reid back in the mix. You can play Jordan love
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Speaker 3: and yeah, Watson will be popular, Jacobs will be pretty popular,
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Speaker 3: but there's guys you compare them with to get a
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Speaker 3: little different. So right now, my lean is I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: play a lot of hurts. I think Mariota being the
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Speaker 3: lowest own is something I'm interested in, with his rushing upside,
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Speaker 3: with the possibility they have to drop back a lot
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Speaker 3: being down, and then I'll go love Caleb Williams. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm all the years on these two games lates to it.
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Speaker 2: It's tough.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely tough. I mean, I see, you know, you
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Speaker 1: can make a lot of different arguments here. For sure.
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Speaker 1: I think I want to lean more on the Green
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Speaker 1: Bay and Chicago stuff. Offensively. I just look at the
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Speaker 1: Eagles and their offense has not been great. I think
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Speaker 1: they're at a point where they just want to kind
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Speaker 1: of get to the playoffs and see if they can
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Speaker 1: make a little bit of a run. So to me,
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Speaker 1: like they're the team that I think would be totally
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Speaker 1: fine winning in some ugly sort of fashion, and Washington
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Speaker 1: is just to me like a dead team at this point,
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Speaker 1: and I think Philly can just kind of impose their
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Speaker 1: will and win a nasty game with Saquon. But that
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Speaker 1: this thing that's so hard about these two game slates, right,
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Speaker 1: because when you talk fantasy you're always thinking upside and
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Speaker 1: ceiling and that sort of thing. But like on a
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Speaker 1: two game slate like this, you always have to keep
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Speaker 1: in the back of your head, back of your mind that,
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Speaker 1: like at a quarterback at the quarterback position, seventeen fantasy
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Speaker 1: points could be enough. Like on this slate, eighteen could
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Speaker 1: be enough. You might not necessarily see these big ceiling games.
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Speaker 1: So just kind of like circle back on a guy
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Speaker 1: like Hertz. He clearly has the highest floor. It's hard
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Speaker 1: to avoid him. I like Love, I like Caleb Williams.
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Speaker 1: You know, for me, it's naturally gonna be less Mariota.
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Speaker 1: But it's like, then he's the lowest doone guy, and
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Speaker 1: he's looking like he's gonna be the lowest doone by
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Speaker 1: quite a bit. So that's just a long way of saying,
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Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna have some sort of exposure to all
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Speaker 1: these guys, and like, if I only end up getting
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Speaker 1: like five percent Mariota or something, I'd probably be fine
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Speaker 1: with it. But yeah, the tough part is, like eighteen
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Speaker 1: seventeen could be good enough at the quarterback position. That
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Speaker 1: could be the quarterback that you need. And if it's
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Speaker 1: that sort of slate, it's probably Jalen Hurts is the
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Speaker 1: guy you need up top, if that makes sense. But
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's kind of a long way of
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Speaker 1: saying I have no strong lean at the position.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm kind of in the same boat.
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Speaker 3: But we go to like running back, receiver, tight end,
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Speaker 3: like I'm gonna be eating chalk like I might have
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent Saquon when it's all said and done,
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Speaker 3: just because the other options at the position, and then
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Speaker 3: like I like agent, like I'm gonna be eating plenty
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Speaker 3: of chalk at a lot of these other positions. So
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Speaker 3: then it's like, heck, shoot, if I think quarterback's pretty
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Speaker 3: up in the air, and I can get a guy
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Speaker 3: that's one fourth one thirty the ownership.
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Speaker 2: And that's what makes me different. Maybe I'm just more
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Speaker 2: willing to do that.
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Speaker 3: I think I am more willing to get a little
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Speaker 3: different at quarterback if I need to, whether or rather
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Speaker 3: than at running back, fading something like Saquon who's in
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Speaker 3: a tier of his own, or Josh Jacobs.
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Speaker 2: Like, I think this position is pretty pretty tough with c.
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Speaker 3: Ryd coming back, eating in the merit stuff, swift him
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Speaker 3: a young guy to split all that. So yeah, it's
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Speaker 3: a good segue there, But I'm gonna be very chalky
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Speaker 3: at this position for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's I mean, it's tough not to be.
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Speaker 1: Like you look at the option like Saquon is clearly
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Speaker 1: the time and really when you look at the only
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Speaker 1: guy that's not, in my eyes, is gonna substantially split carries,
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Speaker 1: the only guy that's really not gonna blit carries, like
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Speaker 1: even Josh Jacobs like has the injury thing. I think
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be cautious with them. And if this game
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Speaker 1: gets out of hand at all, I wouldn't be surprised
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Speaker 1: if they pull the plug. I don't think he's practiced much.
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Speaker 1: He didn't practice, He hasn't practiced at all. I'm worried
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Speaker 1: about it. And he only had twelve, what twelve rushes
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Speaker 1: last week, A couple of targets like he's not gonna
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Speaker 1: get the ball twenty some times, and he's probably more
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Speaker 1: expensive than Saquon Barkley and he's still getting the ownership.
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Speaker 1: So like to me, like when I start looking at
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Speaker 1: like Josh Jacobs, like that's a spot where I'd be
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Speaker 1: willing to make a play on the slate and not
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Speaker 1: necessarily fadom, but comeing way underweight on like a guy
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Speaker 1: like Josh Jacobs and we're showing seventy percent, Saber has
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Speaker 1: it at like seventy seven, a guy that's dinged up
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Speaker 1: that I could see a path to limited carries, Like
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Speaker 1: that's where I could just go way underneath that. And
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Speaker 1: that's how you kind of make your moves on the slate.
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Speaker 1: But back to your original point with Saquon, it's hard
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Speaker 1: not to be all not all in or anywhere or
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Speaker 1: somewhere close to all in on Saquin. You're almost forced
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Speaker 1: to do it on this slate. The rest of these
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Speaker 1: options are are man. They're tough clicks, like so I'm
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Speaker 1: fine being under on Jacobs like DeAndre Swift fifty nine
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Speaker 1: hundred fine, I mean definitely fine with him. You got
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Speaker 1: the Nung guy, you got c Rod, Like you talked
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Speaker 1: about Crosskey Meritage is just a gross position after Saquon,
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Speaker 1: So it could just be a lock button situation for
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Speaker 1: me even in one fifty.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's kind of where I'm at, And
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Speaker 3: you're Josh Jacob's point, He's going to be very heavily
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Speaker 3: out on both sides. But DraftKings there's more two tight ends,
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Speaker 3: four receivers builds on two games slate. You're gonna see
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Speaker 3: some of that on FanDuel as well. But traditionally you
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Speaker 3: do try and jam in the three running backs, which
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Speaker 3: might even leave Jacob's higher road over there, and you
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Speaker 3: can even fade him, like if you don't like him
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Speaker 3: on DK, don't need to like him on FANDO. If
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Speaker 3: you're worried about his touches, that's very viable or that's
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Speaker 3: very reasonable because DraftKings doesn't even have his rushing attemp
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Speaker 3: prop up. They have no one on the Packers like
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Speaker 3: they don't want to guess about. They have Swift thirteen
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Speaker 3: and a half, Manungi eleven and a half, no One
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Speaker 3: on the Packers side, then for the Eagles eighteen and
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Speaker 3: a half for Barkley eleven and a half for ce
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Speaker 3: Rods seven and a half Hurts, So that's very pretty concerning.
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Speaker 3: Who knows about Josh Jacobs. Emmanuel Wilson's been really good
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Speaker 3: for him too, so why not feed him as well?
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Speaker 3: And that could lead to more dropbacks for Jordan Love.
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Speaker 3: So I'll probably have one hundred percent Saquon or pretty
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Speaker 3: close to it. Yeah, I'm gonna I'll probably come in
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Speaker 3: underway Jacobs, especially if he's seven.
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Speaker 2: That's a big number. Now, No way am I fading them.
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Speaker 3: He's still minus one thirty five to score, which is
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Speaker 3: the best on the slate, even better than Saquon. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: there's there's some concerns there, like we're talking about after that.
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Speaker 3: My two favorites I think are just Swift in Manungai.
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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna run the ball a ton right there.
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Speaker 3: We saw thirteen and a half rushing attemp prop in
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Speaker 3: eleven and a half and I think they both could
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Speaker 3: go over that. We saw what they did to the Bears,
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Speaker 3: which absolutely decimated him on the ground. It kills without
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Speaker 3: two of his top three receivers on the slates or
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Speaker 3: two of his top three receivers, so I think it
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Speaker 3: would be smart to pound the football. I think Ben
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Speaker 3: Johnson will do so at home and then set up
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Speaker 3: the play action game after that. So I'm fine playing
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Speaker 3: both of them together if people are asking. It's fifty
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Speaker 3: nine hundred and forty nine hundred, which is a pretty
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Speaker 3: big discount from Jacobs and from Saqua. Now if I
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Speaker 3: do play both together, I'm probably more likely to play
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Speaker 3: three running back build Saquon Swift in Manungui. But I
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Speaker 3: think they can both score once and if they do,
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Speaker 3: that is enough or a possibility enough to be on
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Speaker 3: the optimal. I'm really struggling with the Washington backfield though,
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Speaker 3: with sea Rod and Croxy Merit. Merrett played well last week,
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Speaker 3: but obviously sea Rod was out. Now he will be
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Speaker 3: coming back. He was the bass guy. He was getting
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Speaker 3: the work when he was healthy and Merritt was healthy.
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Speaker 3: He has the rushing a prop at eleven or ten
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Speaker 3: prop at eleven and a half. He has a better
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Speaker 3: rushing yard prop forty three and a half versus twenty
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Speaker 3: seven and a half. So my lean is to go
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Speaker 3: Sea Rod. But he also has like a pretty real
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Speaker 3: price tag fifty four hundred right by Swift and Manung
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Speaker 3: Guy Merritt's sitting there at fifty two hundred.
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Speaker 2: It's difficult. You play a lot of teams.
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Speaker 3: I think I just play Sea Rod because what the
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Speaker 3: props are showing.
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Speaker 2: But I'm not confident in it.
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Speaker 3: It's also a tough rundy he's going against, and I
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Speaker 3: think they're going to be trailing and throwing the football,
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Speaker 3: and when they do so, that's McNichols more so than
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Speaker 3: Sea Rod Merritt. Now, yeah, do you want to play
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Speaker 3: McNichols at four to four Wilson at four to three?
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Speaker 3: Now we're talking about really large field, a lot of teams.
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Speaker 3: If if you're playing one hundred and fifty and they
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Speaker 3: sprinkle in, sure you can. We've seen it backup running
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Speaker 3: backs on slates like this, but most people probably not
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Speaker 3: doing that, And if so, I probably would play four
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Speaker 3: running backs, maybe Barkley, Jacobs, Swift, Mdonguy. But yeah, I
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Speaker 3: think I'll be underweight. Jacobs almost Locksaque and I can
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Speaker 3: get overweight. I think I'm both swift and Madong guy
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Speaker 3: right now is my lean, But I don't love three
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Speaker 3: running backs on DraftKings. Actually I like four receivers and
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Speaker 3: two tight ends a little more.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, and like the one thing about
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Speaker 1: these running backs, like after Barkley, like I feel good
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Speaker 1: obviously coming close to all them with Barkley, feel good
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Speaker 1: being underweight on Jacobs whatever that ends up being. You know,
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Speaker 1: if if he does end up seventy percent, I'll probably
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Speaker 1: be substantially underweight on him. And then yeah, like the
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Speaker 1: Chicago guys, I feel pretty good about it. Then, like
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Speaker 1: with with Rodriguez and Crosskey Merrit, I'd probably just like
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Speaker 1: see what would say givesby to be honest in my
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Speaker 1: one fifty And you know, obviously, if I'm getting like
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Speaker 1: fifty percent se rot, I'm gonna make some changes. I
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Speaker 1: don't want that much, but I'd imagine i'd have some
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Speaker 1: just because you look at this position and it's weak,
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Speaker 1: Like one touchdown could be enough to be on the
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Speaker 1: winner and be like the running back too on the
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Speaker 1: slate after Saquan, assuming he has a solid game. So
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Speaker 1: it is a very tough position. But I do agree
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Speaker 1: with you, like our majority of my builds will have
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Speaker 1: the four wide receivers or the two tight ends will
17:32
Speaker 1: kind of get into these pass catchers here a little bit.
17:34
Speaker 1: I guess the big news at the position is on
17:37
Speaker 1: the Chicago side, no Roma Dunsa and no Luther Burton,
17:40
Speaker 1: who is kind of emerging as a really solid option
17:43
Speaker 1: in that offense, kind of almost like wide receiver too.
17:47
Speaker 1: Now they leave DJ Moore out there. Zi Kias is
17:51
Speaker 1: going to be out there quite a bit, and it
17:53
Speaker 1: gets pretty ugly after that. I mean, they have some
17:55
Speaker 1: tight ends obviously that they can throw to, but DJ Moore,
17:58
Speaker 1: as you can see, is going to be very popular.
18:00
Speaker 1: At fifty three hundred, you have the two Eagles guys
18:05
Speaker 1: sixty seven hundred for aj Brown, fifty seven for Defonta Smith,
18:08
Speaker 1: And you immediately see pricing is so soft on the
18:11
Speaker 1: slate because they haven't priced anyone up. And that's the
18:13
Speaker 1: one issue I have with like these smaller slates, like
18:16
Speaker 1: the prices need to be relative to the slate, So
18:19
Speaker 1: like whoever is the top wide receiver on the slate
18:22
Speaker 1: has to get a little bit of an increased price
18:25
Speaker 1: tag to make things a little more difficult. And they
18:27
Speaker 1: just don't do that. Here, the highest priced wide receiver
18:29
Speaker 1: on the slate is aj Brown at sixty seven. No
18:32
Speaker 1: one else is above six k on the slate at
18:34
Speaker 1: fifty nine, And you know, it just loses some game
18:39
Speaker 1: theory stuff on the slate for sure. But when they
18:42
Speaker 1: do that, it's always been an issue and they clearly
18:45
Speaker 1: are never going to correct it. But the pricing needs
18:48
Speaker 1: to be relative to what sort of slate we're dealing with,
18:50
Speaker 1: and these guys are all just kind of really underpriced.
18:55
Speaker 1: After that, we have let's see I talk about the
18:59
Speaker 1: Eagles guy, Christian Watson. We talked about it before the
19:03
Speaker 1: before the show, like the injury looked really bad, but
19:06
Speaker 1: it's like all the injuries with Christian Watson look really bad.
19:09
Speaker 1: Looks like he was going to miss time on Sunday,
19:11
Speaker 1: Like after that injury, now it looks like he's playing,
19:14
Speaker 1: hasn't practiced what is questionable. All the news is leaning
19:19
Speaker 1: towards him being in debo fifty one hundred, Jaden Reid
19:22
Speaker 1: five K. Sorting by value here got Zekias showing up.
19:27
Speaker 1: Who I do like Sequias quite a bit, and I
19:29
Speaker 1: hope the ownership remains in check, like fourteen percent to
19:32
Speaker 1: me is pretty low. He's gonna be out there a ton.
19:35
Speaker 1: He's had success this season and even last week he
19:38
Speaker 1: had like three targets and I don't think he did
19:40
Speaker 1: anything with those targets. But he'll be on the field
19:43
Speaker 1: and he's cheap. But it kind of goes back to
19:45
Speaker 1: the overall price and do you really need the super
19:47
Speaker 1: cheap guys to make everything work? And you probably don't,
19:50
Speaker 1: but I'd make sure to play him either way, Like
19:53
Speaker 1: I think he can actually have a big game here.
19:55
Speaker 1: So a lot of different wide receivers on every team.
19:58
Speaker 1: You have multiple wide receivers that you can play on
20:01
Speaker 1: every team on the slate. So that's kind of goes
20:04
Speaker 1: back to what you said where it's gonna be more
20:06
Speaker 1: interest for me, Like four wide receivers or two tight
20:09
Speaker 1: ends are the bills that I'll be looking at just
20:11
Speaker 1: because I can play a ton of these guys and
20:13
Speaker 1: feel pretty comfortable with it.
20:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my favorites are like you said, the
20:18
Speaker 3: Eagles guys are dismissed priced. Aj Brown DeVante's amid sixty
20:21
Speaker 3: seven to fifty seven is just too cheap.
20:24
Speaker 2: They are showing the highest I.
20:25
Speaker 1: Thought and Age joined us, but it was just I
20:29
Speaker 1: just looked at the comment, didn't look at the name,
20:31
Speaker 1: but it's.
20:31
Speaker 3: Another Wisconsin I or man. Jordan, Yeah, I don't know.
20:34
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough to click. Actually, Yeah, so I
20:37
Speaker 3: like Brown and Smith a bunch. Those are the only
20:39
Speaker 3: Eagles receivers you have to have interest in sixty one
20:42
Speaker 3: percent fifty percent we're showing.
20:44
Speaker 2: If that's the case, I could easily get overweight to
20:46
Speaker 2: both of them. And again, it kind of goes back
20:48
Speaker 2: to my original point.
20:50
Speaker 3: If I if you play Mariota in that game, is
20:52
Speaker 3: the way and he gets close to outscoring Hurts, you
20:55
Speaker 3: can play the chalk and Saquan Smith, Brown, pick two
20:58
Speaker 3: of them or whatever, and that's just one way you
21:00
Speaker 3: got different. I mean they if they score j Brown
21:04
Speaker 3: and Smith both score like fifteen DK points, that could
21:07
Speaker 3: be seven for eighty. That doesn't mean Hurts is necessarily
21:10
Speaker 3: getting there. If Sakuan gets the rushing touchdowns, Mariota still
21:14
Speaker 3: can outscore him.
21:15
Speaker 2: The Packers stuff.
21:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I'll just jump there because Jordan mentioned it.
21:20
Speaker 3: It's really tough assuming Wicks plays, assuming Christian Watson plays,
21:23
Speaker 3: which is what I think. I mean, they're rotating a
21:26
Speaker 3: bunch it's Dobbs, Wicks, Golden Watson, and Jayden Reid with
21:30
Speaker 3: a little bit of bow Mountain, but probably not too much.
21:34
Speaker 2: I don't know.
21:34
Speaker 3: Christian Watson is definitely my favorite. I think it's really
21:37
Speaker 3: clear he's been Love's favorite option. He stretches the field well,
21:42
Speaker 3: and he's playing the most most snaps when he's in
21:44
Speaker 3: with Romeo Dobbs and two receiver sets. So he's my
21:47
Speaker 3: favorite of fifty two. But yeah, maybe I'll get a
21:50
Speaker 3: little Jayden Reid a five K. But twenty seven percent
21:54
Speaker 3: almost thirty percent for a guy that's on the field
21:56
Speaker 3: like fifty something percent of the time.
21:58
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a little concerning. I like Diva more.
22:00
Speaker 3: I like Terry Moore, I like Smith Moore, like AJ
22:02
Speaker 3: Brown Moore, Romeo Dobbs at four to seven, he's taken
22:06
Speaker 3: the biggest hit since Watson, and Reed has come back.
22:09
Speaker 3: His aight ots a lot smaller than the rest. I
22:11
Speaker 3: don't love him at ten percent, and then Golden Wicks
22:14
Speaker 3: they're really cheap. I would just play him in Love
22:17
Speaker 3: stuff you hope that. I mean Golden I guess would
22:20
Speaker 3: be my preferred play, hoping he finally does something. But
22:23
Speaker 3: We've waited for fifteen weeks for this guy to get
22:25
Speaker 3: behind the defense and do anything, and he has, And
22:28
Speaker 3: so I do not like packers stuff much. And for
22:30
Speaker 3: bear stuff, it's Dj Moore and Zakias, but man chalk
22:34
Speaker 3: Dj Moore fifty percent. Like this guy has also been
22:37
Speaker 3: irrelevant all year. Yes there's no Doon, say there's no
22:41
Speaker 3: uh Luther Burden. He still is only as a three
22:44
Speaker 3: and a half reception prop and forty five and a
22:46
Speaker 3: half yards at fifty percent ownership, Like, I give me
22:50
Speaker 3: Zakias as my preferred play if he's fourteen percent, If
22:53
Speaker 3: he's a third of the ownership and he's eighteen hundred
22:56
Speaker 3: dollars less. Now, one way you can if you want
22:59
Speaker 3: to go right to more is the Kias and play
23:01
Speaker 3: a chalk team. If he outscores them, you can eliminate
23:03
Speaker 3: a ton of dupes. But you can also just do
23:05
Speaker 3: other stuff and upgrade other spots. I like Zakias. Yeah,
23:09
Speaker 3: at ownership fifteen percent more versus fifty percent, give me
23:13
Speaker 3: Zakias in that spot for cheaper. But I don't love
23:16
Speaker 3: really either of them much. The keys, I guess at
23:18
Speaker 3: that price it's hard to not like. But I think
23:20
Speaker 3: the Bears run the heck out of the ball, which
23:22
Speaker 3: is why I like Swift and Manung Guy a bunch,
23:24
Speaker 3: and it Key's bringing me back to I'm gonna be
23:27
Speaker 3: playing more of this Philly Washington game.
23:28
Speaker 2: I think Terry's a great play.
23:30
Speaker 3: I think Deebo is a great play because I think
23:32
Speaker 3: they're gonna be down and having to throw the ball
23:34
Speaker 3: quite a bit, and garbage time counts as the same.
23:37
Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely prefer the pass catchers in the
23:40
Speaker 3: Eagles Washington game. I think Smith Aj way too cheap.
23:43
Speaker 3: I think Debo Terry very strong plays. And then my
23:46
Speaker 3: favorite receivers in the Packers Bears game at ownership is
23:50
Speaker 3: Watson ends the kias.
23:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. It's like, yeah, like why
23:54
Speaker 1: why is everyone just going to Saquon Barkley, Like he
23:57
Speaker 1: hasn't really done shit this year? Well, it's because the
24:00
Speaker 1: icing a super soft, but there's nobody else to pay for,
24:02
Speaker 1: And like that's.
24:03
Speaker 2: On the running back. You have to play two running.
24:05
Speaker 1: Backs and you got to play two running backs separate, yeah,
24:08
Speaker 1: and he separates the earth. Why. I just love like
24:10
Speaker 1: them to do kind of the relative pricing, Like whoever
24:13
Speaker 1: the top running back is on the slate should be
24:17
Speaker 1: somewhere around nine thousand dollars. Whoever the top wide receiver
24:20
Speaker 1: is on the slate should be eighty five hundred dollars range,
24:23
Speaker 1: and then just like go from there. That would bring
24:26
Speaker 1: down the ownership on some of these guys. And like
24:29
Speaker 1: if you want to get overweight on Saque, you're almost
24:31
Speaker 1: forced to hit the lock button on him if you're
24:35
Speaker 1: building multiple teams. But but I will say, like yeah,
24:39
Speaker 1: just to go back to overall game theory, it's like
24:43
Speaker 1: feel comfortable leaving a lot of money on the table,
24:45
Speaker 1: like big, big chunks, and you know you kind of
24:47
Speaker 1: touched on it a little bit, and it's like just
24:49
Speaker 1: one small example. But like if you're going to single
24:52
Speaker 1: stack Caleb Williams and you got DJ Moore in there,
24:56
Speaker 1: just leave the eighteen hundred and go down to Zakias.
24:59
Speaker 1: The keys can outscore DJ Moore. It's not gonna be
25:03
Speaker 1: like super unique to do that, but leaving the big
25:05
Speaker 1: chunks like it can go a long way, and uh,
25:10
Speaker 1: just go talking about that stack a little bit more.
25:12
Speaker 1: I think, like Caleb Williams, the DJ Moore gonna be
25:15
Speaker 1: very popular. Obviously, Caleb Williams, the DJ Moore and Zakias
25:19
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be pretty popular, but the going Caleb
25:22
Speaker 1: Williams and just the key is I think is the
25:25
Speaker 1: least popular of all three of those sort of build
25:28
Speaker 1: So I like this the keyas thing without DJ Moore. Uh,
25:34
Speaker 1: the Packers guys, yeah, I just think they're just much
25:36
Speaker 1: better suited for Jordan Love teams, Like just you know,
25:40
Speaker 1: when you have Jordan Love in there and you're gonna
25:41
Speaker 1: play multiple pass catchers, you know, getting those guys in there,
25:45
Speaker 1: I think makes a ton of sense. You know, I
25:48
Speaker 1: think Debo and McLaurin, I mean, they're obviously both gonna
25:51
Speaker 1: be owned, but like you said, they're gonna be on
25:53
Speaker 1: the field a ton. I think you said that or
25:55
Speaker 1: you said something along those lines, like you know, you
25:58
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be out there with the pack guys.
26:00
Speaker 1: You're almost like guessing with those guys. They got the
26:03
Speaker 1: probably the worst quarterback on the slate, but they're going
26:06
Speaker 1: to be out there and maybe maybe trailing in the game.
26:09
Speaker 1: So I think they're both solid options and yeah, kind
26:14
Speaker 1: of kind of where and then you're like, you don't
26:15
Speaker 1: need to say anything about the Eagles guys, like we
26:17
Speaker 1: know DeVonta Smith, A J. Brown, you know, solid options,
26:22
Speaker 1: so a lot of different ways to go about playing
26:24
Speaker 1: these wide receivers. Going to tight end, you know, really
26:30
Speaker 1: really cheap, like you can't spend it tight end again.
26:33
Speaker 1: Then this goes to the point why say Kwon Barkley
26:35
Speaker 1: is going to be so highly owned because you just
26:36
Speaker 1: don't have spend on the slate you go to tight end.
26:40
Speaker 1: The most expensive guy is forty one hundred, so just
26:44
Speaker 1: you know, get comfortable leaving a lot of salary on
26:46
Speaker 1: the table after him. It goes down to Colston Loveland
26:51
Speaker 1: and then all the way down to Commit at twenty
26:53
Speaker 1: nine hundred. So I mean there's literally nothing you can
26:56
Speaker 1: do here to spend just kind of looking at the
27:00
Speaker 1: projections we got It's Goddard, Loveland, Comet, musk Grave, Fitzpatt.
27:05
Speaker 1: It is an ugly ass position, like this is really
27:08
Speaker 1: really nasty. You know, different things you could maybe do here.
27:13
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the Caleb Williams stuff. You know,
27:15
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and DJ Morrison would be very popular. What
27:18
Speaker 1: if you play Loveland and Comet together, Like that's one
27:21
Speaker 1: way to get a little bit different, leave a lot
27:24
Speaker 1: of money on the table. But this is about as
27:26
Speaker 1: ugly as it gets at a position the tight end.
27:28
Speaker 1: What are you thinking here, Yeah, it absolutely is.
27:31
Speaker 3: And what that's going to lead to with them all
27:32
Speaker 3: being so cheap is Goddard and Loveland will be extremely popular.
27:37
Speaker 3: And that kind of also brings me back to why
27:39
Speaker 3: I think Caleb Williams is my least favorite quarterback is
27:42
Speaker 3: when people when you play him, you're either going to
27:44
Speaker 3: click chalk, DJ Moore, chalk, Colston, Loveland or both of them.
27:48
Speaker 3: And which also is why I like Sakyas quite a
27:50
Speaker 3: bit and the running game because it leverages off all
27:52
Speaker 3: that stuff you just don't have option. I think there's
27:55
Speaker 3: four guys that will be in my pool Loveland, Goddard,
27:58
Speaker 3: Cole come Met Luke, Muskrat Now Muskrave is I mean
28:01
Speaker 3: he had six targets last game for the game prior. Yeah,
28:04
Speaker 3: some of them are down the field too. He's actually
28:06
Speaker 3: made a couple of plays. So we're showing like four
28:09
Speaker 3: percent ownership at a onesie position that's gonna be so
28:12
Speaker 3: heavily concentrated to Goddard and Loveland. Muskrave is someone that
28:16
Speaker 3: I'm looking to get different and again it's you play
28:18
Speaker 3: Love and Musgrave. Right there, you're already looking different. I
28:21
Speaker 3: can play a J Brown Saquon and do whatever I
28:23
Speaker 3: want and then Cole Comet. Yeah, they've ran a good
28:26
Speaker 3: amount of twelve personnel two tight end sets. He actually
28:29
Speaker 3: Outsnat closon level in mass game. Now, yes, he's more
28:31
Speaker 3: of a blocker. Loveland's the pass catcher, but I mean
28:34
Speaker 3: there's no more direct leverage off of Loveland than Comet.
28:38
Speaker 3: If Comet gets the touch on and it's not Loveland, Yeah,
28:41
Speaker 3: you're looking really good. With that being said, Loveland still
28:43
Speaker 3: is the highest reception prop on the Bears, even ahead
28:46
Speaker 3: of DJ Moore three and a half, a good amount
28:49
Speaker 3: of juice on the over.
28:50
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, wow, that's that's interesting. Crazy.
28:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, both three and a half.
28:57
Speaker 3: It was minus one sixty seven for Loveland and minus
29:00
Speaker 3: like one forty eight for DJ Moore, And the receiving
29:03
Speaker 3: props are pretty much just saying forty five and a
29:05
Speaker 3: half forty four and a half. So yeah, maybe in
29:08
Speaker 3: two tight end builds if you want to go or
29:10
Speaker 3: like if you're playing Goddard tight end plug in DJ Moore,
29:13
Speaker 3: take DJ Moore out, go Colston Loveland, you're pretty good.
29:16
Speaker 2: You're pretty much.
29:17
Speaker 3: Giving up nothing when you do that, So that's one
29:19
Speaker 3: easy way to get different. The problem is, yeah, when
29:23
Speaker 3: people are playing two tight ends, it's going to be
29:25
Speaker 3: Goddart Loveland. So I don't mind doing a Comet or
29:28
Speaker 3: musk Grave with one of Goddard and Loveland there. Yeah,
29:32
Speaker 3: there's only four really like John Fitzpatrick, I guess like
29:35
Speaker 3: he's gonna be on the field a little bit. If
29:36
Speaker 3: you really want to get different, I'd rather go musk Grave.
29:39
Speaker 3: But yeah, at the at the pricing and stuff or
29:42
Speaker 3: at ownership, I think Comet and Muskgrave is someone that
29:45
Speaker 3: if you get ten percent of both of them, you're
29:47
Speaker 3: close to double the field. They'll be on the field.
29:50
Speaker 3: All you probably need is a touchdown. And if it
29:52
Speaker 3: is one of them and the optimal and not Goddard Loveland,
29:56
Speaker 3: you could be looking at a very unique team just
29:58
Speaker 3: with how owned god Ard Loveland will be across all
30:01
Speaker 3: the bills, Like I mean, ninety five percent, you could
30:04
Speaker 3: be looking at that. I'll have at least one of
30:06
Speaker 3: god Or Loveland just due to the position.
30:10
Speaker 1: Yeah. Good, definitely good analysis there, and yeah, the love
30:14
Speaker 1: one thing definitely stands out. I mean Dj Moore, you know,
30:17
Speaker 1: wide receiver one. It leads me to believe that like
30:21
Speaker 1: it could just it could be love one, like he
30:23
Speaker 1: could be the main target. So yeah, good good info there.
30:28
Speaker 1: Quickly we'll touch on defense. You know, the team that's
30:31
Speaker 1: favored by seven is definitely gonna be the most popular.
30:34
Speaker 1: They're the most expensive. But we've already talked about he
30:36
Speaker 1: of all the salary in the world to make it work,
30:38
Speaker 1: we're showing fifty four percent, and everything else kind of
30:43
Speaker 1: spread out after that. It's probably tough for the commanders,
30:48
Speaker 1: I think, to get there. With the way I see
30:50
Speaker 1: the Eagles kind of playing it, I would definitely make
30:53
Speaker 1: sure I have a good chunk of the Eagles not
30:57
Speaker 1: you know, really don't need much commanders, and then whatever
30:59
Speaker 1: I get with the Packers and the Bears, I'd probably
31:01
Speaker 1: be fine with. So I don't know, nothing too crazy
31:03
Speaker 1: here for me.
31:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I'm not building my teams right now
31:07
Speaker 3: and putting it in so if some of my stuff
31:10
Speaker 3: looks different, like I care about the Dukes, the ownership
31:13
Speaker 3: all that, but right now my initial thoughts was, if
31:15
Speaker 3: Eagles are gonna be fifty five percent, I can just
31:17
Speaker 3: go underweight them. And be overweight the rest of them.
31:21
Speaker 3: And they're thirty six hundred versus twenty eight hundred and
31:23
Speaker 3: twenty five twenty three at the highest variance position. So
31:26
Speaker 3: that's my lean right now. If ownership is true, and
31:29
Speaker 3: then being the highest priced by a good bit, just
31:32
Speaker 3: hope it's anyone but the Eagles on the optimal and
31:34
Speaker 3: then you can be overweight on all three. So that's
31:36
Speaker 3: my initial lean right now. But I mean there's no
31:39
Speaker 3: really rhyme or reason. That's just the game theory part
31:41
Speaker 3: in me.
31:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's definitely no doubt that the Eagles are
31:45
Speaker 1: going to be very popular. You're going to have the
31:47
Speaker 1: money to play them. They're favored by seven. The opponent's
31:50
Speaker 1: team total is the lowest on the slate, like they
31:53
Speaker 1: are going to be the highest home, so like there's
31:55
Speaker 1: nothing to there's no debate there, so you can kind
31:58
Speaker 1: of take that info and and do what you want
32:01
Speaker 1: with it. But they will be the highest zone on
32:03
Speaker 1: the slate. Let's quickly go over to FanDuel. We'll see
32:07
Speaker 1: if there's any differences. Just pulling it up here. At
32:11
Speaker 1: the quarterback, got Hurts and Love and Williams pretty much
32:15
Speaker 1: same price tag and then a drop off to Mariota.
32:19
Speaker 1: It looks like, you know, maybe a little less ownership
32:23
Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts then on on DK, Mariota is appears
32:29
Speaker 1: to be a little closer in ownership to Love and
32:32
Speaker 1: Williams than what we're seeing on on DK. But for
32:35
Speaker 1: the most part, you know, pretty similar here.
32:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, quarterback position.
32:39
Speaker 3: When we get to running back, there is a little
32:41
Speaker 3: different with pricing quarterback, though, I'm saying pretty similar. You
32:46
Speaker 3: do get a bigger discount on Mariota or it goes farther.
32:51
Speaker 3: He's all the way down. Let me just check. Yeah,
32:52
Speaker 3: five k he is on DK and Jordan Loves five
32:55
Speaker 3: point seven k, so seven hundred difference. CAB's in between,
32:58
Speaker 3: whereas on FanDuel seven nine, six point nine Mariota seven
33:02
Speaker 3: to seven Caleb Williams. So I think that does actually
33:05
Speaker 3: probably maybe lead a little more ownership to Mariota, and
33:09
Speaker 3: you could be seeing Love Caleb Mariota maybe a little
33:13
Speaker 3: closer on FanDuel. I don't know, It's yeah, we're kind
33:16
Speaker 3: of showing that as well. Seventeen seventeen twenty three. My
33:18
Speaker 3: saying thoughts I think are applying. Caleb's my least favorite
33:21
Speaker 3: just due to the popular pass catchers. With them love,
33:24
Speaker 3: you have a lot of different options that you can get.
33:26
Speaker 3: Different with Mariota, I think is trailing with rushing upside
33:29
Speaker 3: is the cheapest, and yet Hurts Hurts is the clear
33:32
Speaker 3: obvious one.
33:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, We'll go to running back Sakwon Barkley
33:37
Speaker 1: eight nine, Josh Jacobs eighty four, and then a huge
33:41
Speaker 1: drop off down to Manungui. Swift cheaper than Manonguy. That's
33:46
Speaker 1: gonna be. Yeah. The ownership kind of shows as a
33:49
Speaker 1: fifty percent Swift. I think Benungay has gets maybe squeezed
33:53
Speaker 1: here a little bit because of the price difference where
33:56
Speaker 1: he's more expensive than Swift. Then you got Cross Merit
34:00
Speaker 1: and uh Sea Rod Sea Rod shown up with pretty
34:04
Speaker 1: decent ownership here to make sure we got ours in there.
34:08
Speaker 1: He's getting like sixteen Crosskey Merit nine Swift fifty Manonga
34:15
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah. The one thing for sure is Swift
34:17
Speaker 1: cheaper than manong guy. And then you know, Josh Jacobs
34:21
Speaker 1: probably harder over here to play based on what I've
34:24
Speaker 1: seen so far in the cellar. He's play these two together.
34:27
Speaker 1: But same thing the ownership on Josh Jacobs is you
34:30
Speaker 1: know sixty four percent sixty three percent, Like, well, I'll
34:35
Speaker 1: probably you know, be under over here as well.
34:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if that's the case sixty four percent,
34:41
Speaker 3: I would definitely be under.
34:42
Speaker 2: The big thing.
34:43
Speaker 3: Like you said, Swift being cheaper than Manong Guy in
34:45
Speaker 3: twenty two hundred, cheaper than Josh Jacobs, Like, he's just
34:48
Speaker 3: way too cheap and ownership reflects that, and just naturally
34:52
Speaker 3: that makes Manong Guy for two hundred more a phenomenal
34:55
Speaker 3: pivot in GPPs. If it's Anonguy scoring and it's not
34:58
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift, you get a big own ownership discount right there,
35:03
Speaker 3: with similar upside, similar rushing atten prop Another is Sea
35:06
Speaker 3: Rod cheaper than Croxy Merit with the projection almost double
35:10
Speaker 3: five point AK is cheap a touchdown dependent site with
35:13
Speaker 3: half point PPR, I think he will be pretty popular,
35:16
Speaker 3: could see him even over the fifteen percent. And I
35:20
Speaker 3: think Jeremy McNichols is even more in play on FanDuel
35:23
Speaker 3: than DK, which sounds weird since the half point versus
35:26
Speaker 3: full point, but you get a bigger discount on DK.
35:29
Speaker 3: You have Mnungui like four point nine k McNichols four
35:32
Speaker 3: point four k, whereas you have Swift six to two
35:36
Speaker 3: McNichols four nine. That's thirteen hundred Sea Rod, who's gonna
35:39
Speaker 3: be pretty popular or gonna get some ownership five eight
35:42
Speaker 3: McNichols four to nine, And it's some leverage off of
35:45
Speaker 3: Sea Rod, who's going to be higher owned on Fandel
35:47
Speaker 3: than DK. So I'm more intrigued to play McNichols and
35:51
Speaker 3: fully punt a running back position, especially if you don't
35:54
Speaker 3: like Jacobs, and if you're not in love with the
35:56
Speaker 3: Washington guys and you think mcnong guy and Swift eat
35:59
Speaker 3: into each other, maybe six enough is enough and you
36:02
Speaker 3: can play Hurts and spend up at receiver and get
36:05
Speaker 3: a little different roster construction again, especially Saque eight nine,
36:09
Speaker 3: Jacob's eight four, AJ Brown eight eight, FANDL did a
36:12
Speaker 3: little better pricing these guys up so that four to
36:14
Speaker 3: four can go longer. So yeah, I think the running
36:17
Speaker 3: back room is the most different on DK compared to FANDLE.
36:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like with the McNichols play, like, do you
36:24
Speaker 1: have a way to like differentiate your lineup, like if
36:27
Speaker 1: you do play him, I guess it's a big question.
36:29
Speaker 1: So we've already seen, you know, saquon a little more
36:32
Speaker 1: expensive relative to where he is on DK. Jalen Hurts
36:35
Speaker 1: is a little bit different now, Like I think it
36:37
Speaker 1: kind of ties right into the wide receivers and yeah,
36:40
Speaker 1: you see it. AJ Brown is eighty eight hundred, DeVonta
36:43
Speaker 1: Smith's seventy seven. So they have more of real price
36:45
Speaker 1: tags here than they do on DK. So I think,
36:49
Speaker 1: like the McNichols play, you could you can pay it
36:53
Speaker 1: off potentially with getting a different build. Even Debo seventy five,
36:57
Speaker 1: McLaurin seventy two, these aren't massive price to but on
37:00
Speaker 1: DK it's they're just even cheaper, and you don't have
37:04
Speaker 1: to make sacrifices to play these guys. On FanDuel, you
37:09
Speaker 1: do have to make some sacrifices to play, and that
37:11
Speaker 1: is where a guy like mc nichols can come into
37:13
Speaker 1: the conversation. DJ moore sixty four, Jayden Reid six K.
37:19
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about a ton over on DK, but
37:23
Speaker 1: I do. I do like Jayden Reid, and if Christian
37:26
Speaker 1: Watson is dinged up like I think, Jayden Reid is
37:30
Speaker 1: a very solid option, probably my favorite pass catcher for
37:34
Speaker 1: the Packers. Let's sort by value, see what shows up.
37:38
Speaker 1: DJ Moore Watson, Reid, DeVonta Smith, AJ Brown. But I
37:41
Speaker 1: will say FanDuel definitely did a better job overall with
37:44
Speaker 1: the pricing. It's a Keys fifty three. I like him
37:47
Speaker 1: here just as much over on DK, but you have
37:50
Speaker 1: the same guys a little more expensive. FanDuel to me
37:53
Speaker 1: looks a little more appealing overall. To be honest, one.
37:55
Speaker 3: Hundred percent, you will like Devonte Smith, A J. Brown
37:58
Speaker 3: are just so easy to fit and Hurts on DK
38:01
Speaker 3: all that whereas it's not on FanDuel. Again, why I
38:04
Speaker 3: mentioned the McNichols play I think is in play. Why
38:07
Speaker 3: is the Kias at fifty three hundred I think will
38:09
Speaker 3: be a good bit, could be double the ownership on
38:11
Speaker 3: FanDuel the DraftKings just because you need that down there,
38:14
Speaker 3: they price up the running backs, so yeah, shut out
38:16
Speaker 3: FanDuel continuing to do a better job than DraftKings. Also,
38:20
Speaker 3: again we'll lead to AJ Brown, Debo Smith, even Terry
38:24
Speaker 3: McLaurin all lower owned because I think more people will
38:27
Speaker 3: go DJ Moore, Jayden Reed, Christian Watson the more middling
38:31
Speaker 3: builds because if you want Hurts, if you want Saquon, yeah,
38:34
Speaker 3: you gotta save at some position. I think it he
38:37
Speaker 3: can even get if you want to get real quick
38:39
Speaker 3: crazy like at Devin Duverney a Jalen Lane trailing Burks. Again,
38:44
Speaker 3: it's it's gross if somehow any of them outscores the
38:47
Speaker 3: kias though you could be looking at a lot less
38:50
Speaker 3: chops and if you want to spend up for a
38:53
Speaker 3: j Brown Saquon and just goes stars and scrubs again
38:56
Speaker 3: Jalen Lane trailing Burks. If they're trailing and they have
38:59
Speaker 3: to drop back a lot, we'll be on the field
39:00
Speaker 3: and mixing around five points could be enough from them
39:04
Speaker 3: down below. But yeah, I just think Romeo Dobbs golden Wicks,
39:08
Speaker 3: all of them, and that read DJ Moore Watson Price
39:12
Speaker 3: take ish like people are gonna find the five hundred
39:14
Speaker 3: to seven hundred and get to them. If you think
39:16
Speaker 3: any of Dobb's golden Wicks can outscore them, makes it
39:20
Speaker 3: pretty interesting. And again then brings me back to more
39:22
Speaker 3: Jordan love builds because if they do fully get there,
39:25
Speaker 3: they're going to catch a touchdown more than likely. That
39:27
Speaker 3: means Jordan loves throwing a touchdown. And it's late that
39:30
Speaker 3: we don't have a quarterback projected higher than like twenty.
39:33
Speaker 3: That means a lot on this slate, So yeah, fan
39:36
Speaker 3: duel shout out to Fandla definitely will be playing over
39:39
Speaker 3: there regardless, but I think they did a much better job.
39:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's check out tight ends, and probably
39:44
Speaker 1: not much you can do with the tight end position,
39:46
Speaker 1: Like there's it's tough to price these guys up anymore
39:50
Speaker 1: than like where they're at. Godard fifty nine, Loveland fifty three,
39:55
Speaker 1: Musgrave five, k Kolk Matt forty eight hundred. I think, yeah,
40:00
Speaker 1: obviously double tight ends always going to be more appealing
40:03
Speaker 1: on DK. I think you can do it here and
40:06
Speaker 1: might actually make a little more sense here because you're
40:08
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get some of those more expensive
40:10
Speaker 1: wide receivers if you do it. But I'm fine double
40:14
Speaker 1: tight end tire. It's just a tough position. But just
40:17
Speaker 1: going back to the DK thing as well, Like you
40:19
Speaker 1: mentioned Musgrave, and I think Musgrave is a really solid
40:22
Speaker 1: option on this, Like he's clearly going to be coming
40:25
Speaker 1: in way behind Goddard and Loveland six targets. Last week,
40:29
Speaker 1: Jordan Love had a great connection with Tucker Craft. Maybe
40:33
Speaker 1: he's starting to develop it a little bit more with Muskgrave.
40:35
Speaker 1: To me, I think he's a really good play at
40:38
Speaker 1: you know, we're showing ten percent here probably similar I
40:41
Speaker 1: can't remember what it was was.
40:42
Speaker 3: Ownerships can't even be right though, Like thirty one for
40:46
Speaker 3: Goddard twenty seven leveland like there's no way no one
40:49
Speaker 3: wants to click any of these names outside of Goddard
40:52
Speaker 3: and Loveland. Loveland's fifty three hundred Musgraves five k, Like
40:56
Speaker 3: you're gonna see a four x ownership discount from more So,
41:01
Speaker 3: which makes your appeal even more, like what you're talking about.
41:03
Speaker 1: But yeah, I like the play. I think it's solid
41:06
Speaker 1: for sure.
41:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just like, how how is Goddard in Loveland
41:10
Speaker 3: here not going to be ninety plus percent?
41:14
Speaker 2: Yeah? Loveland that close to Benson, not Luke Musk like
41:17
Speaker 2: there's cob So it makes cole Comet Musk Grave. Again,
41:21
Speaker 2: they're viable and two tight end bills.
41:22
Speaker 3: If they fall in the box once, they very well
41:25
Speaker 3: could be optimal if you just want to play one
41:27
Speaker 3: of them and you think Goddard and Loveland bust. If
41:29
Speaker 3: Loveland scores six, Godard scores six and Comet scores four,
41:33
Speaker 3: it very well could be Cole Comet on the winner
41:35
Speaker 3: right there. So when you do build those teams. Like,
41:39
Speaker 3: if you are leaving more than eight hundred and you're
41:41
Speaker 3: playing Comet over over Loveland, know what you're getting into
41:44
Speaker 3: you're telling yourself or it's five hundred excuse me, you're
41:47
Speaker 3: saying that he hass to outscore him straight up? Maybe
41:50
Speaker 3: not my favorite way to approach it. Maybe leave four
41:53
Speaker 3: hundred dollars and do something different. So if he does
41:55
Speaker 3: get outscored by point one, you know, a huge Loveland
41:59
Speaker 3: train is going to be ahead of you, and your
42:00
Speaker 3: Comet stuff is going to be dead. But yeah, I
42:02
Speaker 3: got are in love? When are going to be super
42:04
Speaker 3: super popular on both sites? Double tight ends in play though?
42:08
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, Defense, I'm assuming is it just about the
42:11
Speaker 1: same five k for the Eagles or forty four percent Bears,
42:18
Speaker 1: Packers forty five, forty three and then Commanders way down there,
42:23
Speaker 1: and I guess there's so much cheaper where you can
42:25
Speaker 1: probably project a little more ownership, which is what we're showing.
42:28
Speaker 1: So kind of makes sense. I think the conversation that
42:31
Speaker 1: we had on DK for Defense is definitely applicable here
42:35
Speaker 1: for sure.
42:36
Speaker 3: The thing is, yeah, like you said, Commanders though, like
42:39
Speaker 3: I don't to be honest, I think Commanders might even
42:41
Speaker 3: be higher than Packers. They might be second highest zone
42:44
Speaker 3: and it just comes down to how tight pricing is
42:46
Speaker 3: or like we talked about a lot of spend ups,
42:48
Speaker 3: I don't think too many are going to see a
42:50
Speaker 3: difference between packers commanders.
42:51
Speaker 2: Let me save that money, let me upgrade somewhere else.
42:54
Speaker 3: So bears Packers I think probably the lowest owned by
42:58
Speaker 3: no means, so I ever X how defense stuff like that,
43:01
Speaker 3: But just thinking Commanders, I think would be my least
43:04
Speaker 3: favored on FanDuel, just because I think they're over owned
43:07
Speaker 3: or get clicked on more due to people struggling with
43:10
Speaker 3: their pricing. So like most people you said you like
43:14
Speaker 3: they were your least favorite there, most people's least favored
43:17
Speaker 3: going against the biggest favorite in the Eagles if one
43:20
Speaker 3: of them, if they're not optimal, I think that could
43:22
Speaker 3: be like twive percent dead. So yeah, I think I'm
43:25
Speaker 3: more inclined to play Eagles than the other ones on fandor,
43:28
Speaker 3: Whereas I think Eagles are my least favorite on DK.
43:30
Speaker 3: But it's it's so random. I'm just trying to figure
43:33
Speaker 3: out ownership mainly.
43:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, I kind of touched on everything
43:38
Speaker 1: dk FanDuel. These two games slates, I love them. I
43:41
Speaker 1: have their fun. It's a little bit break from Showdown.
43:43
Speaker 1: We will have coverage for the Showdown slate. I think
43:46
Speaker 1: the main one is the Packers and Bears. We'll have
43:50
Speaker 1: to feature once. We'll have content for that well, of
43:52
Speaker 1: course for the two games slate. Like you said the opening,
43:55
Speaker 1: we're kind of doing this in place of the Cash Show.
43:57
Speaker 1: We'll still have cash Core on the web site, Fan
44:00
Speaker 1: Duel and DraftKings, and then we'll talk about it a
44:04
Speaker 1: little bit Sunday morning. And towards the end of the year,
44:07
Speaker 1: the cash stuff gets a little more difficult because that
44:09
Speaker 1: is when we start to see some of the inactive
44:11
Speaker 1: being impactful on cash plays and news starts breaking a
44:15
Speaker 1: little later in the week. So for the next two
44:17
Speaker 1: weeks we're gonna cover the two game slates and then
44:19
Speaker 1: the final of the week of the season. Everything's together,
44:21
Speaker 1: so everyone plays Sunday at either one Eastern or four Eastern.
44:25
Speaker 1: So yeah, looking forward to these games tomorrow. Any final
44:29
Speaker 1: thoughts before we get out of here.
44:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, just remember late swap, you will have all
44:33
Speaker 3: the information the Eagles or Eagles Washington game will be
44:37
Speaker 3: over before the Bears and Green Bay starts say with
44:41
Speaker 3: sim as their live projections, live ownership if you are
44:43
Speaker 3: on that, but just if you're in cash games, if
44:46
Speaker 3: you're in single entry stuff, you can be scrolling ahead,
44:48
Speaker 3: seeing what's ahead of you, kind of guessing and all
44:51
Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, I'm excited for these. We'll have cash
44:55
Speaker 3: cores for this two game slate, normal course for the
44:57
Speaker 3: two games slate, the slave plan and all the content.
44:59
Speaker 3: Again showed down the stones up right now, So what
45:02
Speaker 3: have you covered? Like usual, big prizes always find more football,
45:05
Speaker 3: the better.
45:06
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, good luck back when make
45:09
Speaker 1: sure tune in Sunday morning, ten am Eastern. Myself title
45:14
Speaker 1: Tambo and breaking down the main slate. Big main slate,
45:17
Speaker 1: I believe. I think thirteen games will make sure to
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Speaker 1: tune in. Good luck to everyone in your contest.