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MULLIGAN LIKE A GOD?! 🤯 Going First vs Second — The Truth NO ONE Wants to Admit · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Okay, if I die at you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, we heard it here. Don't worry. Your insurance
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: will pay for a third of you.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want the top third, the bottom third, the
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  Speaker 3: middle third, the right third, or the left third.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's more than all everything that comes out more
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  Speaker 2: to more than a third.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, but I'm asking you got to determine. Oh so,
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  Speaker 3: if you're going top down, do you want the top third,
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  Speaker 3: middle third or bottom third or right to left? Do
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  Speaker 3: you want the right third, the left third or the
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  Speaker 3: middle third?
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  Speaker 2: So is the middle third like it's a busted to take.
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  Speaker 1: The center center third and turn me into a donut?
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  Speaker 2: Hmm. All these things can happen. But what's going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Only the w O O K I E joined here
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  Speaker 2: by the normal cast of misfits. We have driving on
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  Speaker 3: What are we gonna do tonight? Pinky?
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  Speaker 1: Keep them myself away?
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  Speaker 2: Is it the same thing we do every night? Sure?
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  Speaker 2: And we got the eks.
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  Speaker 3: Hello keyboard community, glad to be here. Hopefully you do
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  Speaker 3: know Pinky in the Brain. Man, If you don't, I'm
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  Speaker 3: so sad for you.
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  Speaker 4: When was that show on the air like this all
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  Speaker 4: our listeners legit?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Or like are we old? I and we are old?
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  Speaker 2: We are? And the Brain? Well, Pinky in the Brain
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  Speaker 2: wasn't an actual show, all right, guys? So the show.
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  Speaker 4: Animating, Yes, yep, nineteen ninety five and ran from four seasons,
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  Speaker 4: so it was it was a while ago, guys.
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  Speaker 3: It was not nine.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, last millennia. If my kids were.
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  Speaker 3: Back in the nineteen hundreds, guys.
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  Speaker 4: After the nineteen hundred's dad.
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  Speaker 2: Bill, So you guys want to hear a fun story.
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  Speaker 2: My my kids school had nineties day, right oh or not? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: It was nineties day and I forgot what what was it?
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  Speaker 2: She asked me. She's like, hey, dad, how did you
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  Speaker 2: guys get to school in the nineties? And I'm like,
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: we had cars? And she's like, you guys had cars? Bick.
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  Speaker 4: What is like? Like you know, kids will be like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: like use your phone right, Like I didn't have a
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  Speaker 4: cell phone in the nineties.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like telling your children like the phone was attached
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  Speaker 2: to the wall by a very long word phone like
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  Speaker 2: smartphones didn't exist, and if you were like later on,
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  Speaker 2: like a few years down the line, they came up
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  Speaker 2: with cordless like that was an option. Righth Yeah, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was wild by the bell and the big fat phone
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  Speaker 3: that was there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you couldn't you could not be on the
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  Speaker 2: phone at the same time as anyone else. Yep. And
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  Speaker 2: when somebody called, you did not know who it was. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: her mind was crazy her true.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a little bit though. I definitely.
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  Speaker 1: You know it if it's somebody you know, but after that,
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  Speaker 1: it's just nothing useful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do feel like, so what happens the
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  Speaker 2: first So the first time you see you look at
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  Speaker 2: you see your phone rings, what happens you look at it.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as you see it's not someone you know,
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  Speaker 2: you just hit the little button that just silences the
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  Speaker 2: ringer and then you let it to go to voicemail
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  Speaker 2: or hit that screen button, yeah whatever I mean, depending
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  Speaker 2: android or depending if you have an Android or an Apple.
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  Speaker 2: And then if you're my wife, you have three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and one uh voicemails that you just never answered mm hmmmm.
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  Speaker 2: And I honestly want to know how long it takes
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  Speaker 2: to get to three hundred and one voicemails.
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  Speaker 4: Long time, probably, or I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe
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  Speaker 4: they're trying to reach her about her extended warranty, her.
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  Speaker 2: Car is extended warranty, or maybe there's a there's a
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  Speaker 2: prince somewhere trying to get her her unpaid millions. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they reached out sometimes sometimes sometimes I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't gotten especially especially if you need to relay
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  Speaker 4: your Social Security number. That's sensitive so.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you should totally pay them. An Amazon gift
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  Speaker 2: are like Apple gift cards or out, yeah, Apple gift cards.
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  Speaker 2: Oh here's another fun this way to do it. Here's
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  Speaker 2: another fund.
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  Speaker 3: Your car warranty. They can always get a hold of you.
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  Speaker 2: My old man called me the other day and he goes, hey,
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  Speaker 2: somebody called me about she was everything okay. They were
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  Speaker 2: trying to get in touch with you. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: who was it? And I was and he's like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. They just say that they got my number.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, they found your number off of
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  Speaker 2: some thing for me. They're trying to scam you. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, whatever you do, I said, please. When you
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  Speaker 2: get I was like, you know you're getting up there
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  Speaker 2: in age. Please whatever you do, don't pay your taxes
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  Speaker 2: and Apple gift cards. Right if anybody asked you to
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  Speaker 2: run a target to grab them a bunch of kids
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  Speaker 2: gift cards, just say no, right, like, please do that
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  Speaker 2: for me? Do that for me? Mm hmmm. Oh man,
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  Speaker 2: the scams are real? You really? Are you guys gotten
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  Speaker 2: any of the uh? Any of the you have?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about if anybody has the unpaid tolls?
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  Speaker 2: An we got any unpaid tolls? Well, so I did.
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  Speaker 4: I did get this, but then it turned out it
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  Speaker 4: was real whether collection because my transmitter died so like
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  Speaker 4: and it was a huge pain of the ass because
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  Speaker 4: then because every eight it's like its own easy pass.
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  Speaker 4: So like I was like I realized, oh shit, like
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  Speaker 4: this actually is a problem. So then I delay, like
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  Speaker 4: where the hell was I? So that like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: because Pennsylvania. Then it's like New York is like sending
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  Speaker 4: a collection agency after me. I'm like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: I don't trying to figure out like is this really?
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  Speaker 2: My parents are New York is probably real? Right? I
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  Speaker 2: call them pin in the ass. You have no idea
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  Speaker 2: now if you're trying to be scammed or not.
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  Speaker 4: Right right right, It was very very very awkward.
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  Speaker 2: Now no, no, but let's get into it today. We
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  Speaker 2: got a few things we're going to go over kind
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: of an older school arcons corner. Today we're actually going
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  Speaker 2: to talk some strategy here. Weird, I know, right, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like it's weird. It almost feels we haven't we
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  Speaker 2: haven't had a strategy idea in a while. No, you
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  Speaker 2: feel like this is this is scam right.
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  Speaker 3: Here, and this this should go out next week. So
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  Speaker 3: April fools.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, but it'll go out on a Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: so it'll actually be March thirty first.
• 8:15
  Speaker 4: Uh, well, you know, so our advice beer before liquor
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  Speaker 4: nebro sicker the will it actually go before beer?
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  Speaker 2: In the clear? There you go, guys, isn't it the
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  Speaker 2: other way? You're welcome? I never remember you were welcome.
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  Speaker 2: I never remember.
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  Speaker 4: That's definitely made up though. I just mix them all
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  Speaker 4: and I jump on a trampo and you see it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you'll be fine, just fine. What you gotta do. Here's
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  Speaker 4: promoting Bubby still yeah, yeah, we're technically still Uh. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: I got to talk to you guy because he's like,
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  Speaker 2: Well, what's funny is like we're so we're we're we're
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  Speaker 2: on the internet lately. I don't know if it's a
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  Speaker 2: scamm or not, but now I want to try. Somebody tried,
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  Speaker 2: you know how. You know the old saying that if
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  Speaker 2: you put, if you take a Britta and you put
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  Speaker 2: liquor in a Brita, it'll make it taste better. I've
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  Speaker 2: heard this.
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  Speaker 4: I don't mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but supposedly it works with Molart too. I believe that.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you want to try to make muller taste better?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the point is right, Yeah, that's the whole point.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you could just buy a bottle of Scotch
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  Speaker 1: and be happier.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, that's true, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure that is why all of our
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  Speaker 3: key forge friends have made it to this cast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, But one day me and Drascar are going
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: to get together and figure out the appropriate appropriation of
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  Speaker 2: how to do things on the Patreon. But until then,
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  Speaker 2: drass Car, you've made some updates to drasscar dot com.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, what'd you do?
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  Speaker 1: So?
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, so draz score dot com. So uh d
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  Speaker 4: r a z draz that's me score s c O
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  Speaker 4: r E dot com. So I have created a uh well,
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  Speaker 4: I was joking that it was gonna be called the
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  Speaker 4: complain Feature, which kind of is, but I named it
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  Speaker 4: a little a little nicer. The complain feature is basically
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  Speaker 4: when you're when you think that we are bad at
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  Speaker 4: rating cards and you're like, I, I substitute you are
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  Speaker 4: rating with with my own. So basically, now there's a
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  Speaker 4: way to generate a my score, which is you go
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  Speaker 4: to the you go to the cards page, or you
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  Speaker 4: can actually do it straight from the when you load
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  Speaker 4: a deck, you can just go and if as long
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  Speaker 4: as you're logged in user, you can go and update
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  Speaker 4: the card scores. So if you go to the you
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  Speaker 4: all cards page, you can go to just rate the
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  Speaker 4: cards whatever you think they should be rated. Right if
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  Speaker 4: we rated something, you know, a four, and you're like,
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  Speaker 4: we're you know, we're idiots and this card's only a
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  Speaker 4: two or one, you can go do that. Or if
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  Speaker 4: you think it's a six and we're dummies for not
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  Speaker 4: knowing that, you can go and change the rating. This
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  Speaker 4: will do a few things, so you'll be able to
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  Speaker 4: see that score like on the deck information page, and
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  Speaker 4: it will go into a community score. So each card
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  Speaker 4: now is a community score. Was just the average of
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  Speaker 4: all of each user who has like rated cards, and
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: it'll just tell you right right now, let me just
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  Speaker 4: see here. So right now Bubbles is a four point seven.
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  Speaker 4: We rate it as a five, but a few users
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  Speaker 4: think that it's a four, I would guess, and don't
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  Speaker 4: actually see the individual scores. But right now the community
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  Speaker 4: is or for bubbles is four point seven. Let's see redacted.
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  Speaker 4: The draft scores are two, but the community scores a
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  Speaker 4: three point five, so people seem to like redacted more.
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  Speaker 2: Get out of here, mam. Yeah, that might be. That
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  Speaker 2: may or not be team that's one dude trying to
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  Speaker 2: just rop your jacket up jack the price.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so, but uh, I think it'd be really
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  Speaker 4: cool if more people came in rated the cards whatever
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  Speaker 4: you think they should be rated, and then we will
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  Speaker 4: use that in a future episode to look for the
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  Speaker 4: ones that are quite different from what we rated them
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  Speaker 4: and look to see if we should change our scores
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  Speaker 4: or if we should give you a really hard time
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  Speaker 4: for your.
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  Speaker 2: Bad ratings instead of our bad ratings. So both are possible, and.
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  Speaker 1: We have a weekly shaming session, ah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Said, Well, see, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I could write code that would figure out
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  Speaker 4: who specifically rated the scores all wa could do?
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  Speaker 2: I guess I could write that.
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  Speaker 3: We can just simply shame. We can shame how the
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  Speaker 3: card of the week.
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  Speaker 2: Shaming is never fun. You gotta shame, publicly public change.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we could definitely yeah, shame.
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  Speaker 1: We can just assume it's always mister perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Truly truly is we can see that the argument for
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  Speaker 2: Tutor ben Rylo being an okay card.
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  Speaker 4: Now, So, so you you go in, you score all
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  Speaker 4: the cards and whatnot. By the way, you don't have
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  Speaker 4: to score all the cards. You can just score the
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  Speaker 4: cards that you disagree with our score, or if you agree,
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  Speaker 4: if you want to, you can score it the same
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  Speaker 4: as our score. And then if we change our score,
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  Speaker 4: yours won't change. So both both are reason viable.
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  Speaker 2: Should we have one? Should we have a segment every
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  Speaker 2: week where we take, like, I don't know, five cards
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  Speaker 2: and bust them.
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  Speaker 3: Now are we going to three hours?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: No, five cards is too many? Well, you know if
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  Speaker 2: you walk us to read them, you know.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Again it is is this gift too old for you?
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Because is Monty Python also too old for you? All?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Monty Python is the best and totally showed my
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  Speaker 4: kids Monty Pythona shame shame, yep. The So all right,
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  Speaker 4: so you go you score these cards. You can see
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  Speaker 4: what the communities scored them. You can use this to
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  Speaker 4: think about think about the strength of these cards. Now,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: if you are a Patreon so this is the only
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: thing that is a Patreon feature, when you bring up
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  Speaker 4: a deck, it will it will actually give you a
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  Speaker 4: my score of value, so and you can see you
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  Speaker 4: can see that other value on the deck. So you
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  Speaker 4: could basically build as long as you're okay with kind
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  Speaker 4: of our rules, you can basically build your own scoring
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  Speaker 4: system and you can rate decks so you can see,
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  Speaker 4: based on your beliefs, what decks you think are particularly
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  Speaker 4: strong or weak.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to wait to see mister perfect. Can we
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  Speaker 2: publicly show mister perfect scores to show his I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I would have to.
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  Speaker 4: I can write a sort of code, and by by
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  Speaker 4: me writing any sort of code, I mean I can
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  Speaker 4: ask Claude to write any sort of code. Right now,
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  Speaker 4: I don't have a way to see what other people
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  Speaker 4: scored stuff, but it is technically possible, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure so.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: But bad yeah yeah, So go and UH rate rate
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  Speaker 4: some cards and then see where you can find decks
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  Speaker 4: that you think are underrated and UH are should actually
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  Speaker 4: be rated more highly. Maybe this will be a cool
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  Speaker 4: tool for you to help yourself figure out how to
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  Speaker 4: what to get what to buy and what to purchase
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  Speaker 4: for a for a vault or something.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you feel knowing that work instantly going
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  Speaker 1: to be trolled? Oh I'm excited, Like dive is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a six? Yeah yeah, well you know I did,
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: Off. Yeah, I think it's real wackado.
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  Speaker 4: I could force the community score to only be for patreons,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't know, I'm not I'm not there just yet.
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  Speaker 4: Let's let's see how this goes. Plus, if you get
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  Speaker 4: enough people rating normally, then then it'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Theory.
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  Speaker 4: I could also do like the Board Game Geek thing
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  Speaker 4: where they generate, you know, a whole bunch of you know,
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  Speaker 4: average scores or something. Uh, and then so that you know,
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  Speaker 4: one person can't go and totally you know, make some
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  Speaker 4: make you know, like the number one rated game on
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  Speaker 4: Board Game Geek or something.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But I mean, we have how many users? Do
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  Speaker 2: we have? Actually? Count?
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  Speaker 4: I have to scroll, but I don't know. Thirty forty
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  Speaker 4: users on the site. Now many of them have only
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  Speaker 4: logged ones.
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  Speaker 2: They checked it out.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, but now there's new features, so you should
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  Speaker 4: come back. So but I could see it looks like
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  Speaker 4: Denzig just logged in so he's checking it out right now,
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  Speaker 4: looks like, so, yeah, I see, we got a day's
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  Speaker 4: fault on here, Eric Waters Marty. You guys go check
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  Speaker 4: it out and tell me what you think. So you
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: you may or may not have accounts already, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, alrighty oh, you know what. Pretty excited, pretty excited
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  Speaker 2: about this. I that's a bummer. I just realized that
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  Speaker 2: I closed out my show organization notes to open the
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  Speaker 2: hell break tcg oh gosh. So so check go check
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  Speaker 2: out drazz score. Eventually me and Draz will do something
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  Speaker 2: for patrons. We've we've never talked about it. So one
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  Speaker 2: day we'll figure something out. But today's definitely stuff I'm
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  Speaker 2: doing for patrons. I just don't like.
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  Speaker 4: There's definitely a few things, but we don't have like
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  Speaker 4: the tears doesn't really.
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  Speaker 2: Our tears still don't match, you know. We yeah, stuff
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  Speaker 2: and things. One day we'll figure something out. Won't be today,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: probably won't be tomorrow. We'll get around to it. Checks
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  Speaker 2: in the mail. So moving forward, I wanted to talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about this, and this is due to
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: kind of Pete's piles. For those of you who aren't
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: aware of participating, Pete has started the SaaS champions. So
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: that is down in our discord where basically every SaaS
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: number has the ability I forget when it goes down
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: to thirty nine, is that right? Does that sound right?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Thirty one?
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Right? It's whatever whatever. The lowest SaaS deck in DK is.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So thirty one is the lowest SaaS deck, and then
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: he goes all the way up to one thirty four.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Each one of those has a champion as to who
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: is the one who owns owns the championship for that
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: SaaS score. A bunch of them are on Here are
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: these I don't know if these are going into Oh
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: no they are. Yeah, once you play a certain amount
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: of games like you get these do give you fake
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Internet points over on keychains.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: It says, current keychain results look like this, Dexter taking
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: home first wookie in last.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: At Yeah, I only played two games, ooh perfect.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Beating you at two and O man ool, I mean
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: he's taking the third spot, Dexter, really twenty four and fifteen?
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I mean I did take what did I take the
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember the forty eight slot?
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: You took the deuce?
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's which which I just which I just steered
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and nobody else had, you know, a forty eight neck
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: and I was wrong.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're crazy. So so the way this works is
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you come, you join the discard, and then at any
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: point that you don't have three decks on the spreadsheet
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: champion a SAS, you can claim another blank SaaS spot.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So like there's a there's a lot of spread rape
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: for each SAS. So you know I came in. When
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I joined, I took ninety four with fraud. You have
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to list the deck you're playing. I took seventy seven
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: with Master a big fire, and I don't remember I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: took a third slot with something and then uh, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: then so you can only claim three slots. You only
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: claim empty slots if you have less than three decks
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: on there.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: And then you took JML and TL suck.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Now, well that's because I got knocked out of one
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: of my slots, so then I added JML MTL sucks
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: afterwards an honor of JML. Yeah, gotta get a name
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: out there. But you at any point can challenge any
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: for their SAT's writing. So like I challenge Pete for
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: sixty five, for fifty six, fifty eight.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Whatever it was, fifty nine was you are in with
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Martine the stoneface. I'm looking at this, I mean, okay.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: So it was fifty nine, which that was Pete's very
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: favorite woe deck. That is multiple legionary trainers, then a
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Senate and a Senator token. So it's pretty good. But
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the thing is is with the way this works is
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: like you know what their deck is, so you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: like as it happened to be, I actually had three
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: fifty nine to pick from that I could play them with,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: So I picked one that had the most board clears
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: for little creatures and then went there and yeah, beat
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: them up and took a spot. They are best of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: three matches though, so you do got to plan to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: have a little time and then so you earn points
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: for winning, you earn quarter points for losing, and then
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: at the end of the month you'll earn points for
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: being the champion of different SaaS ratings. If a deck loses,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it is knocked out of It's out of competition for
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a time period. So once you said deck and assass
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: member loses, you can't like go back and re challenge
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: for for that one with the same deck. It's it's
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: out once it loses so it's it's a reason to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: play a lot of miscellaneous decks. It's been fun.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this got me thinking. Number one, It got
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: me thinking about how little I know about some of
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the cards from previous sets. Hey, guys, question for you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: without looking nobody look, I know she won't lump. As
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: he's driving, I think, what's the textbox on little Nif.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: It's like Omega Elusive, it's name Gain Fight Steel one.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Well you're better than I am. No.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: I said that with confidence and uh funny story. So
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: the you know, we were at the store tonight and
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Mammon has A had a Vietnamese a GR deck for
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: whatever reason sealed. It's like okay, so he opens it
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: and I opened a GR and like we're playing and
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: like every other card, we're like wait a second.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: So the problem is you start to question it. When
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I was playing you like you know the cards, but
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you start to question.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: It right in GR like it's just been long enough,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Like what's that that tendril card where it's like bouncing
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: creature and its neighbors if you're haunted. We were like, wait,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: does it say friendly or is it like any creature? Like,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: so we had to like go look it up. There
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: there was like a whole bunch at uh that we
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: had to look up, so we we did not remember
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: as well as we had thought.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I totally missed Omega on Little niff because
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, I was also doing because you don't read,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I was also doing house things. Yeah I didn't. I
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: didn't really look at it, and I was like, oh, oops,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: that's the little.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Earlier you're saying. Tendrils from beyond the unfathomable action with
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: an amber pep play choose a creature. If that creature's
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: controller is haunted, return that creature in each of its
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: neighbors to their owner's hand. Otherwise, return that creature to
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: its owner's hand.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Sounds right.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Oh so walk bot Reddit, I'm reading it. I'm not
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: cheating you. I'm looking at it, and.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Do have a Niffl Queen deck at fifty seven I
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: could take over, but I'm just like, ah, I haven't
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: seen some of these cards in so long because uh,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: you know, nobody cares. They're just they're not played.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: It is definitely the SaaS Champion thing is a fun
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: way when you have those decks with names or with
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: uh you know, something you like in it, that's of
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: an undesirable sass range. There's a reason to slap it
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: out there and make people play with it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and against you.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: It's been fun for that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It has been fun for that. But it got me
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: thinking over my couple of games with I Believe the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Cats and Dogs that I'm Mulligan completely differently, and going
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: first and second with a lot of the older GG
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: sets feels significantly different from going second from in a
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: lot of the Ghost Galaxy era. Anybody else felt seen like,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: am I crazy on this? I could be stupid. I
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: let's just this is just taking let's let's let's just
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: go straight on Mulligan's right, because you know you used
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: to open your hand, right you see you see that
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: to to to in in a in a in an
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: f FG set, and it was almost like, ugh, this
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: is the kiss of death. Right, I gotta I gotta
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: toss it back. I got some of my some of
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: my late game cards in here. I gotta I gotta
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: toss it back. Where I don't have that same feeling
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: in in the g G era, Right, I'm I'm definitely
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: able to at least I feel with some of the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: abilities to whether depending on whether it is make token creatures,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you know, archived cards or you know, use my use
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: my graveyard to my advantage in grim reminders, ember skies.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what that set is or even
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: just uh, it's.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Creatures, right, And what you're really looking at is efficiency
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: in all of those aspects. And that's saying I was
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: eating how like prophesying a card. This is all efficiency,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: gr being able to get haunted immediately, efficiency, recursion, that's there.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: But you have a major shift in efficiency with GG.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And I just feel like that's that's really swayed my mulliganing.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I don't I feel like I'm mulligan a lot more
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: in a GG. I'm sorry a in an FFG set,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: then I I'm sorry flip that I mulligan a lot
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: more in an f FG set that I do in
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a GG set. Especially going second, I feel like I
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: am almost I am almost. I can play my way
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: out of a subpar hand in a GG set, then
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I can going second than I can in an FFG set.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: I wonder if this is one of those things where
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: because Gigi is printing cards that are really stronger than
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: a six, that you could be like, well, I got
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: this card, like like, why wouldn't I play it right?
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Like like nothing in your deck is going to be
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: better than having that card.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: So well, but I think it comes I think it
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: comes down to timing, to be honest. We went ahead
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: at our locals on Tuesday, we played ARCon again because
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: our store championship is basically every other week. So a
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: couple of people had some things that just didn't allow
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: them to come out last week, which was sad, but
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: they wanted to play Arkon. We ended up playing Sealed.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: A couple of people had brought in Arkon just to
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: be able to try it out, and in that manner,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I will tell you that on one of my games,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: just playing against a very old school code of Rush,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I had a choice with my PV and I drew
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: into essentially two of my three large scaling amber control.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Now this deck that I was facing again, you have
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: to look at what's the situation, what are you playing?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: This deck has a chance to literally OTK, it can
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: go ahead and really burst with untamed. So having two
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: of those cards right away is kind of really good.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't necessarily like you got to actually question that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: But I still think that the efficiency that PV provided
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I tossed that back. Those are two cards that I
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: do not want to see, and they actually have more value.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: So one was Carver Fire, one was Hoodwink. They have
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: a lot more value later on, especially considering Hoodwink. Here,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna burst, I'm gonna bust it right away,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: but it's not going to be a full five that
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I'm taking. It's going to be here three. Now you're
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: playing a game of chance that, yes, Coda or certain
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: other sets can rush quickly, but I think that the
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: efficiency that Gigi offers allows you to be able to
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: get back to those key cards quicker in my opinion.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: And so I had no problem really discarding it, and
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: it had a half second thought on it. But it
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: is still I think it's a better long term move
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: to discard and play for the overall game.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Because like the fear of a discard in a GIG said,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't feel like there's there is a fear.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like you. I feel like there's enough efficiency
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: there where I feel like I can either swing background
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: to it or I'm going to have things that are
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: going to allow me to go grab maybe grab it
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: when I need it. Or be able to find it
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: when I need it, as opposed to well, let's you know,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: are you talking for lack of a better talking pull
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: out and pray sealed? Yeah, I mean, Wookie, are you talking?
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Arkhunter? Are you talking Sealed?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's really either way, right because
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: this is just playing Pete's Piles. We were literally going
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: to aoight.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: It was an AOA slapfest, right, like literally like one
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: game was I screwed up on a little Nef and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: that's my fault because you know, I did not read
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Omega on a little Nef and I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: he's Omega. Well you know that key Forge All Star
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: little Nef right like you see him in every deck.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I should have known better, but just it was one
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: of those things where I was just like, oh, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't think I had what it took
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: to do it anyways. I was probably more or less
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: delaying the inevitable, which I feel like there's not as
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: much swinginess in f FG sets as there is in
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: GG sets. I feel like, once you're once, you're yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: pretty far behind, and you you have your you know,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: there's you're not the comeback is possible but less less probable.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: So whyeah, I'm well, or it's based totally on randomness, right,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: because well that's and that's the thing. It's it's totally
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: well no, I'm saying even FFG is totally on randomness,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: no f FG, because you know, okay, so I've my
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: ember control is now back in my deck. Am I
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: going to get it in time? Right? Am? I? I
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: can push push push shards, but it could be back
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: on the bottom. So it's a lot of randomness in there,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: which we.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: All, I mean, that's every card game, right, but but
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: the GG, but the G has allowed me to.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: All right, I need this card. I'm just gonna stash
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it over here for later. You know. There there's a
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: lot more there's a lot more archiving. I feel like
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: in GG sets there's a lot more ways to do things.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, even with tokens and then being able to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: get tokens back into hand, gr'd a lot with archiving
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: tokens was obviously you know, the token sets AOA just
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: allows me to do weird things with strange stuff on
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the board, and that profits obviously prophet I'm sorry, ass
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: and prophecies allow me to kind of I can I
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: can plan it. You know, whether it pops or not,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I guess is random. You're still considering that random.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: That's fine, So I think what what you got there
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: is on what'd you guys say GG sets, They have
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a lot more higher value cards, which I think actually
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: means you do them all again a little less because
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: you don't need the FFG four mediocre creatures equals one
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: good Ghost Galaxies creature, right, especially in the in the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: current meta right the way we play these days, the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: typical FFG creature does not equal a typical Ghost Galaxy creature.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: So you can start often with a little bit shorter
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: hand in Ghost Galaxy, even when playing another Ghost Galaxy sets,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: just because if they don't answer the creature and you
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: get that one reap or that one fight with it,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it's it does often provide enough interesting value to keep
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you in the game, even without having a four to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: two hand or whatever. So so that's going on with GG.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: As you guys said, there's more efficiency in every set
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: through whatever it's new mechanic is, you know, house pips,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: so you're playing more cards. No matter what else you
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: call or PV efficiency or token efficiency, they all have
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: some sort of new efficiency that's a little different but
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: does move a lot more cards and traditional traditional FFG
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: decks did. And now you do have to probably mulligan
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: more aggressively if you're trying to play just in general
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: FFG decks, because you're used to a higher tempo of play.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: So a two two hand is is reals, especially if
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: you're playing against the Goost Galaxy deck it's too slow.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: You have to mulligan for more more value because you
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: just start that bar behind. But your whole your whole
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: play speed mentality if you play a lot of GG
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: stuff is different that when you go back and play
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: crummy FFG. On crummy FFG, you almost got to recalibrate
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: your brain on what you need to do a little
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: bit because there is not as high value of play
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: on anything, right, So it's a much more even tempered
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: play field. So yeah, how you mulligan has probably changed
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: since then going first and going second, it's been a
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: long time now since before Gost Galaxy that I am
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: firmly a go first player. Yeah, I do not like
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: calling second.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: So I mean, this is a whole other topic and
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I want to get into it. I guess for me,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: the Mulligan. It's been interesting. So I did join abr's
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: half league and we started this week with CODA. So
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: when you were talking about Pete's piles with kind of
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: we'll call them puy decks on Poohy decks, and it
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: does actually range from really bad sas to really really
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: good SaaS the whole ranges there. But I think you're
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: hitting different ranges. For AVR the half league, we're trying
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: out some new software. We're trying out some really cool items,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: So shout out to Aviator with all the work that's
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: being done in the background there that other people will
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: see in the future. But having played just good code
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: on good CODA, I think that our perspective from PV
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: and GR and WHOA has actually changed how I view
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: some of the old coded decks that I play. So
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: when we went back, it's interesting to have that feel
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: even good on good CODA or old FFG. On old FFG,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: you are looking for some more efficiency, but you're also
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: looking at okay, what are some of the different lines
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: that you want to take that I don't know, it's
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: a different feel for sure of what I was looking at.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I ended up playing a triple doorstep to heaven deck
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: and even trying to think what is the matchup going
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: to be? What would I expect to see either control
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: or high amber generation. But also the key sheets are
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: very very prevalent for CODA with that untamed, so it
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: was there on should you mulligan or should you not?
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: It's a hesitation being able to see if someone's going
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: first and if they mulligan even waiting. I know I
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: am really neglectful of this and often say I'm just like,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I'm going second, I'm mulligan. Well, I should really wait
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: until my opponent decides if they're going first or not,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and that should have an impact. If it's a bad hand,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: you're still going to mulligan it. But there's some kind
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: of wishy washy in the middle sections where you might
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: not want to actually mulligan if they're also mulliganing. So
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: some things I think about for sure, I've.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Just found it strange, and yeah I am, I am strictly.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I have found going first for me is also where
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I like to be. I don't like them on the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: second anymore. So why is that?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Boys? Why do you like to go first?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I think we actually touched on it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I think it's the efficiency, but you're you're playing the
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: one card and because you can drop the prophecy. Are
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: we talking just strictly PV Are you talking I've.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Been go first since Oh, probably World's Glide.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: And why and why is that.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: So? And even in the World's clyde Era. But the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: threat of putting down a truly strong reef creature and
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: forcing them into a less desirable house call to deal
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: with your creature potentially is great. But really what it
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: is the reason I prefer to go first is so
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: much of what isn't key forges response to your opponent. Right,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Creature control cards are only good if they have creatures.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Amber control cards are only good if they have amber,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: And by making them play the bigger hand first, there's
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: more stuff for you to take from them, is functionally
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: how it works. So you end up getting more value
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: from all of your cards, more likely because they played
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: something for you to interact with. Right if when you're
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: playing against an empty board you're just playing blank pips,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: which is not.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: As good.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: That I do agree with, Okay, And when you're at
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: when you're at ARCon level games, you know, like playing
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: lots of cards and not getting any value of them
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: outside of their PIP is not a recipe for success.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Usually, Yeah, you're not maximizing what the cards are doing,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: and as a result, you lose. You lose their potent
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: power they're minimized.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Right, So that's that is absolutely why I prefer playing first,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Like you can look at their dock and know if
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: you want to make an amber or not. Right, if
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: they got a lot of steel, you just don't make
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: an amber on turbline, you play creature. And if they
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: got a ton of creature control, then you play in action, right,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: and you can you can kind of play into them.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: But when you know in theory they've mulligin or whatever
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and they're going to have three or four cards are
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: going to play, and then you get to come back
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and respond, it does I mean, it obviously doesn't always work,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: because sometimes they play five good creatures and you have
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: no removal or one removal card and you're behind the ball.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: That happens for sure, But on average, I've just found
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: that going first and responding to their first big play
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: turn has been stronger.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I do think it's deck dependent, So I think on average,
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think there are some decks
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: that want to be the one pushing the board state,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: want to be the one that is forcing your opponents
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: to spend those those control cards early. And you know
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: decks that can just get to check on that first
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: turn with a with a burst right and really pressure.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So now now, yes, you're right that.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, if you're playing against a big steel deck like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: they also want you to do that, so it is, uh,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: you know, it definitely is a matchup game.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I mean I I've no doubt
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: even in situations I will sit down and there will
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: be some game where I'm like, oh no, going second
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: is my better choice, right, because because they're so much
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: of board centric deck, I really need that opportunity to
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: play creatures and be able to fight back into their
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: tokens because I know they're going to make a bunch
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of them because that's what their deck does. But they're
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like into a tokens deck where they often
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: don't get value out of the tokens on the turn
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: they play them. Means you being creatures ahead is good.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: But into most other sets outside of tokens and in
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the Ghost Galaxy area, good decks are getting value out
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: of their creatures on play, so you're not responding to
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: them to stop them. You're responding to stop them for
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: repeating because they've already got that first round of value.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: That's just how good ghost Scalty decks play. They get
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: so much value on play right now that you know
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you're responding by killing them or you know whatever, but
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: your your response isn't You're responding after they already got
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the value. So having the creatures on board to fight
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: them first is often not as critical because you're also
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: playing a deck that is getting value on play. So
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: they play their creatures and get value, and then you
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: play your creatures and get value killing what you have to,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: and you know it goes back and forth that way
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: these days, right right, It's not like in in Coda era,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the first person to go wide in a low board
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: clear deck made a big difference because you could control
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: the important creatures away from the game, leave them with
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: their generic rebirds that don't do anything, and win the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: game that way. Right. That's less of a thing in
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Ghost Galaxy because, like I said, the decks that see
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of play all have a lot of from
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: hand value.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: For you, guys, does the idea of here's your first
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: punch and here's your second punch. Play into your Mulligan
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: strategy when playing in an archid.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Game, What do you mean first time or second?
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: So I mean part of my Mulligan strategy is based
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: on the deck that I like. I can look at
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: the arc on card, I can tell what the overall
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: strategy for the most part the deck's going to try
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: and do. And so with that there, if I'm going
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: ahead in deciding if I need to mulligan, I need
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: to know what is essentially my first round of play
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: and what is going to be my second round of play.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: And there's some times where I get a great first
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: play but I have nothing to follow it up on
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: the second time, and essentially I'm going to lose massive
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: tempo and that's going to be extremely problematic for me.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: And vice versa.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I've had where hey, I don't have a great first
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: turn play, but going seconds like, I'm basically set up
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: to be able to respond or to be able to
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: deal with whatever threat is there. And so part of
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: that decision making comes into should I mulligan or should
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: I not? So I know it's kind of going back,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: but that helps me to be able to to see
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: does this deck and yes, it is deck dependant. Does
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: this deck want to go first or second? Does this
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: deck want to be able to have key cards? So
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: should I be mulliganing for that? Or am I really
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: looking at here's my first round of play and here's
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: my second round of play. All those things are taking
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: in consideration for me.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Guess why I still don't understand the second round because uh,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I expect to be playing half my hand and then
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you draw whatever you drop.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: You if you're if you're going first, especially you're playing
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: one card maybe two with being able to you know,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: tuck something, So in that manner, it really yeah, it
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: really matters there, Yes, if you're.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Always the The first play efficiency question is do I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: play the creature of the house I have three more
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: cards of hoping to get the re fight on my
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: second turn, or do I play the off house to
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: just get more play efficiency over my first major draw.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: That's always always a hard decision to make. And then
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: you make your guess based off of if you think
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: you're actually gonna get to use that creature, and still
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: half the time you you don't.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but right and in ARCon you can you can
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: do a little better job guessing here and sealed. It's
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: real hard, right, you have no idea, what kind of control?
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: I have no idea and sealed.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's way more often that I will
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: play a moderately high value creature as my first card
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: because I'm suspecting they don't have answers in every house
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: and plenty full and whatever, so they either have to
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: make a bad house called deal, like you drop a
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Marcella and they're like, okay, well I got to go
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: over to this bathhouse just to kill the Marcelo and
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: play one card because the chance of how fast you
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: ramp out from one Marcella or half the logos cards
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that exist in PV, you know, like they have to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: be answered there, which they're all witch level threats and sealed,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: so they're very strong first turn plays get sealed. I
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: don't know if I feel it's as good in Arcan,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: but sometimes, you know, you still still look at their
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: deck and they're not a high sea deck and you go, okay,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this, you know, a high value reek
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: creature and either you deal with it or don't, I'm
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: gonna get a ton of value. But they have a
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: ton of cee. You don't play into it generally.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: What's interesting in your statement, though, is that you're actually
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: taking into consideration what you're expecting from each of the
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: houses in the set, and like, we come with a
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: lot of background knowledge when we're playing this game, which
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: is is definitely how I see Sealed too. But if
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going against the logo stack, yes, I am looking
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: for those board creatures that are going to go ahead,
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: and if there's there's a number of them, they stack
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: up quickly and they have quite a bit of play
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: effects that will go ahead and really make it very
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: uncomfortable in right now. But I think you can see, okay,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: what am I expecting for Amber Skies with Mars, And
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: I can do that with the last couple of GG
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: sets where you're looking at some of these different houses,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: and that has an impact for what cards am I
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: looking for? Even in Sealed. I don't know if they
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: have said card, but if they're playing a house in
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: a specific set, there's a higher chance, especially at the
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: common rate, that I'm going to see certain things. And
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I do take that in consideration when I'm playing, like, uh, okay,
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: you're playing Skyborne, it's sealed and I'm probably gonna see
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: red line here, all my.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Red lines against all flags? Am I getting hit with
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: this game?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Correct?
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: And so, but that that has an impact? Okay, do
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I go to seven? Well? I still do at times,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: But but if you're being really smart, you probably want
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: to temper yourself and go does this is this amber needed?
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: The same thing was happening against you, sheep when I
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: was playing. Do I really need this generic creature that's
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: gonna set me one more over you for your little
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: dragon deck?
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: No?
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, well don't don't go ahead and play it. Then
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: don't do that because it's really gonna bite you in
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: the butt.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I do have a hope that that donkey measures will
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: actually when you're playing against another DM deck, you will
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: actually have to sit there and make decisions that wouldn't
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: typically be made based off of you know, creature count
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and again the amount of give and take of creatures
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: and amber in that set where like you gotta you know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: like it's it's been a little harder to set up
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and guarantee effects, I think in that set because there
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: are so many weird swing cards that trade control of stuff.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: So that's that's it should be fun to play. Still
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: not convinced it's going to be competitive against the PV
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: style back. But but we're we're still talking about Mulligan's
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: going first.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: So Wookie, what are you thinking?
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else to mention?
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Wookie, I'm kind of curious, which do you
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: think is better for going first or second?
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: I am so back of the FFG days. I feel
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: like the strategy of being able to be uh somewhat
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: reactionary more times than not was the most beneficial play.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: And I know at one time there was an actual
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: consensus over like, yes, going first is better, going seconds better.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was, but there was a
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: second was usually better going second.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: But that's because the creature control and the on lay
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: effects was so much lower. You had to have the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: stuff and play first.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Any big difference. That's where the efficiency was too, right,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: like your ability to you know, kill things and taking
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: take control was better. I believe going second that it
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: was going first. Now with with some of the card powers,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: it's I just you know again, I played Aria what
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: that two weeks ago at the Store Championships, and it's
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: just like it's one of those things where like, Okay,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I'm playing Aria and they you know, they know what
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to do. Right, it's like not a secret
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: at this point in time, and it's kind of like okay,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: going first allows me to you know, be like, all right,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I'm doing X, Y and Z your you need to react.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: So instead of being cautionary and being able to react
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: in a meaningful way, now it's well you need you
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: have to react to me in a meaningful way, and
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: if you cannot, I might run away with this.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Even when you're playing against Dariya, you do everything, you
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: keep their board clear, and it doesn't matter because two
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: out of the three houses like land their creatures and
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: get a ton of value out of them on the
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: turn they're landing, and.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Then get them.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Where.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I feel like being the aggressor now in GG days
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: is more is definitely more beneficial than being a little
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: bit passive.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Are you the aggressor in that second position or going first?
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like in GG days you are. You have
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: the ability and again deck dependent, but you have the
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: ability to be the aggressor much more efficiently going first
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: then second, because now with a lot of these you
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: have to you have to react to me or like
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: she said, with like Marcella, you have to react to
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: me or I'm going to run away with it because
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: of this creature. This creature, this this condition I have
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: now set for you of how I want to push
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: the game. I believe going first lets me set the tempo,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: as opposed to like letting my opponent set the tempo
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: and then being able to react to it. Like reacting
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: to it in FFG days was easier and you kind
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: of just wanted them to, I guess have it or
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: you know, not have it, and more times than not
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: they didn't. Just I feel like being the aggressor now
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: is definitely more more efficient than than vice versa.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think also like so, but it's also based
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: on set right, So I actual you think in gr
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: IT it was actually more well, I think the balance
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: is shift a little bit. In gr I was happier
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: to go second than I am in PV because in
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: gr A lot of the good decks you wanted to
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: be haunted first. Slash have the bigger discard pile, and
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: if you went second you had the advantage there, and
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: so you could protect against their winds of death and
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: leverage your winds of death. So like, but now that
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: you're not really playing into GR as much like there's
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: not as much need to race them for that condition
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: and PV with the extra efficiency, I feel like wants
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: to go first. So I feel like that goes second
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: in GR is less enticing than it used to be.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: This sounds like a guy who played way too much Aria.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there are definitely where I have to.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the gr stuff I was playing like I but
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I definitely used Winds of Death decks, but I didn't
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: definitely didn't count. I didn't use it in the same
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: way that Aria wants to use it. So and I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: mean a lot of decks could get haunted quick, but
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I mean Aria really really effectively does it. But there's
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: the way Boo, just the way one Boo works and
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: changes all that. I never worried about going second, or
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to go second to that because I
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I felt like I was always able to generally stay
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: haunted in A and A thing with the kind of
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: decks I was choosing to play.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it wasn't so much necessarily stay haunted per
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: se as much as it was be be ahead have
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: the advantageous discard pile position. But yes, that is something
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: I learned from playing Ari a lot, and I you know,
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: I have a I have a Wadka deck as well
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: that wants to do that. I don't play it nearly
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: as much because it it is too much watch me
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: play Aria is already a little borderline there sometimes with
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: the my yeah, my wad cadeck is definitely just just
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: watch me do stuff, which is uh not as fun
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: a play style in my opinion.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: So all right, guys, well I got back to my hotel,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: so I gotta go be an old man.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: He's going to be an old man, go into bed.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I am on, I am on Eastern time right now.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's like eleven o'clock with you. Yeah, yep, yep,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: that's right. I mean we hit our derogatory, our derogatory,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: our obligatory hour.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: We are kind of derogatory.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: We are a little derogatory hours. Probably accurate now, I
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: It's just again going back to older sets with Pete's things,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: just like it got me thinking, like, you know, this
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: whole going first shit sucks, you know, like where I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: was like wait a minute, you know, and then I'm
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: I'm playing Aria, and then I'm like, why is this
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: goal going first thing? Not so great, and it's just
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: it's a weird. It's it's just weird because like even
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: even now I'm looking at some of my decks and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, look at this uh whatever Sas deck, right,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: and it's like, huh it's got three uh three of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: this caught What was it? Let me I'm gonna scroll
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: back here real quick. It was a fifty was a
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  Speaker 2: fifty seven SaaS deck because I'm trying I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: take over that spot or I already did, as as
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  Speaker 2: you guys were talking with with my with my double
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  Speaker 2: Horseman deck that's somewhere because that's the thing that exists.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a fifty seven deck and it has
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  Speaker 2: yeah it Scott one two. Is it a quad? No,
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  Speaker 2: it's got three terms of readiness redress I'm sorry, terms
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  Speaker 2: of redress and yeah, but only three uh sanctum creatures.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't you just say it was double Horseman.
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  Speaker 2: Not that one. That's a fifty eighth, Okay, fifty seven.
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  Speaker 2: So like if you and there were oftentimes where you
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  Speaker 2: didn't have like and that was the thing, Like it
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  Speaker 2: was like this whole thing of like not having creatures
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  Speaker 2: on the board in Low sass Old sets like it
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  Speaker 2: was a nightmare to dig out of it was, and
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  Speaker 2: having like little c being in these lower SaaS numbers
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  Speaker 2: is just like it's a nightmare and it's you were losing.
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  Speaker 2: I still just can't believe somebody else had a forty
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  Speaker 2: eight SaaS deck. Shocked, Like, I'm like, oh these are
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  Speaker 2: these are more common than I thought.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, guys, you all have a good night.
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  Speaker 2: All right, sheep.
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  Speaker 4: The the I did as as a revenue, I did
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  Speaker 4: just look up Marcella the Younger since it was referenced
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  Speaker 4: a few times. So we gave Marcella the Younger a three.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: The community score is up to a three point five,
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  Speaker 4: so that.
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  Speaker 2: I think we were on the fence on her as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is is again ARCon versus uh going ahead
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  Speaker 3: and being sealed sealed plays out very very well, but
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  Speaker 3: you just don't see dinos going ahead and being played
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  Speaker 3: in pebe. You don't see it in an our con standpoint,
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  Speaker 3: and that that causes issues.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we did actually rated the dinos kind of high,
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  Speaker 4: and then we actually dropped the whole bunch of the
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  Speaker 4: whole point.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm looking again, I'm looking at this this
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  Speaker 2: double Horseman deck. The entire tire Sanctum house is the
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  Speaker 2: is the double Horseman. So eight create nine creatures with
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  Speaker 2: a staunch knight, and then it has the harder they come,
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  Speaker 2: and and and and I'm sorry it's two staunch knights.
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  Speaker 2: So a ten out of the twelve cards are creatures.
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  Speaker 2: It has a shoulder armor and the harder they come.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the horsemen are all two's, so yeah, not going
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  Speaker 4: to be scoring.
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  Speaker 2: That's so high. Yeah, this is a fifty seven.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you could go adjust the score if you
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  Speaker 4: like the Horseman.
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  Speaker 3: This deck I feel I have to challenge you. This
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  Speaker 3: deck is horrendously.
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  Speaker 2: I put it in there because I was like, double Horsemen.
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  Speaker 2: Someone will get a kick out of this. This deck's
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  Speaker 2: not great. It has one und of control. Yeah, fifty
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  Speaker 2: seven expected I put it. I put a drass score. Roxy.
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  Speaker 2: I put it in there because I was like, double Horseman.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody will somebody will find this funny, because I do
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  Speaker 2: you remember, like somebody remember double Horseman deck?
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  Speaker 4: Selling for oh yeah, just first deck I ever opened
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  Speaker 4: was a Horseman deck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I I sold a Horseman deck for like four hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars and it was like it had no business selling.
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  Speaker 2: I know it was a double right, No, it was
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  Speaker 2: a single Horseman deck. It was a single fight. It
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  Speaker 2: was right as KeyForge like came out and one of
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  Speaker 2: my first boxes I bought had a Horseman deck and
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  Speaker 2: I put it up. I think it was one of
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  Speaker 2: the key Forge auctions in Facebook because those were a thing,
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  Speaker 2: and like, yeah, I went all the way up to
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  Speaker 2: like four hundred bucks. I really try to do one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this deck is an eighty two in the draft score,
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  Speaker 4: which is real bad, real bad on that scale.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm measured in centimeters because it's bigger, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, sure, Yeah I should uh, I should go.
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  Speaker 4: I should find Oh, man, what is what is my
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  Speaker 4: x Ray sucks deck?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Let me say, hold hold on x Ray.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah this is this is Yeah, early Horseman's going for
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  Speaker 2: like seven to one thousand. I remember that on on
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  Speaker 2: eBay it was it was bananas.
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  Speaker 4: Alright, Master x Ray sucks, so seventy four sass uh
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  Speaker 4: fish deck.
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  Speaker 2: So we got that one seventy.
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  Speaker 4: Currently, the problem is with slow Walk is it's actually
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  Speaker 4: really my sass. Slow walk Slow is a ninety one
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  Speaker 4: sasas well.
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  Speaker 2: With Master x Ray Sucks. You could challenge dexter. Really,
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  Speaker 2: what did you say? It was seventy three or seventy four?
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  Speaker 2: Seventy four? Oh yeah, you could challenge. You could challenge dexter.
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  Speaker 2: And then what was the other one? Ninety three, ninety one,
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  Speaker 2: ninety ones open? You could just talk, I could just
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  Speaker 2: I could just throw a slow walk slow and there,
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  Speaker 2: just slide it into the ninety one DMS. Nice.
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  Speaker 4: Nice, and it's weird to see almost good.
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  Speaker 2: It's like this sheep, because of course it is sheep.
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  Speaker 2: Sheep's got the seventy eight sass, seventy eight sass held
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  Speaker 2: on with cham sucks of the barracks. What is slow
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  Speaker 2: walk slow in the dress score? Let's say it's a one.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good. Let's say it dark good. That's pretty
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  Speaker 2: good in dress? What anything one pretty good in dress? Score? Right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Anything one thirty above is worth looking at. I mean
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  Speaker 4: it's it's double boo, double junk with winds, double mars,
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  Speaker 4: first doctor, double target, double implanter. Uh, it's got double
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  Speaker 4: rot feast with a spooky charge. It's got invigorating shower,
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  Speaker 4: haunting witch, fang toothed cavern a penthe seed.
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  Speaker 2: I mean this, this, this is not bad is not bad.
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  Speaker 2: You could slide right again. No, nobody's got that spot taken. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's all yours. But let us know what you guys
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  Speaker 2: think down below. Uh do you like going first? Do
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  Speaker 2: you like going second? And uh are you mullig getting
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  Speaker 2: more more or less in the era. It's very very
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  Speaker 2: interesting to find out. But boys, I think with that
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  Speaker 2: being said, we're all gonna old man it and we
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  Speaker 2: will see you all next week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, go go score your cards on draz score, get
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  Speaker 4: your get the get that community score in the direction
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  Speaker 4: you want, and then uh yeah, just a happy fortune
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  Speaker 4: everything