Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Anahi Santiago, Chief Information Security Officer at ChristianaCare
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- 0:22This is Laura Dedo with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:25I'm thrilled today to be joined by Ani Santiago,
- 0:28chief Information Security Officer at Christiana Care. Ani,
- 0:31it's a pleasure to have you on the podcast today. Thanks.
- 0:34For having me.
- 0:36Now, I know we've got a lot to talk about.
- 0:38There's so much happening within the healthcare space and information security
- 0:42in general, but before we dive into my questions,
- 0:44can you tell us a little bit more about yourself and your background?
- 0:48Sure. Uh, so I, um, I have, I,
- 0:52I'm the CISO at Christiana Care. Um,
- 0:55Christiana is the largest health system in Delaware, um, also serving,
- 1:01um, in New Jersey, Maryland, and Pennsylvania.
- 1:04I had been there for eight years, a little over eight years.
- 1:09Prior to that,
- 1:10I spent 10 and a half years at Einstein Healthcare Network in North Philadelphia
- 1:15as their information security and privacy officer. So, um,
- 1:19little over, well,
- 1:21almost 19 years of cybersecurity leadership, healthcare experience.
- 1:29Amazing. Yeah. Wow,
- 1:31that's a lot of time that you've spent in the healthcare industry and, you know,
- 1:34from your perspective,
- 1:36where do you see some of the big opportunities today in the headwinds that you
- 1:40have your eye on?
- 1:42Uh, so, so I think that, you know, there,
- 1:45there are a lot of opportunities to really transform the way that healthcare's
- 1:49delivered through technology. You know, over the years,
- 1:53the industry has adapted electronic medical records,
- 1:57medical devices, um, you know, after the pandemic, um,
- 2:01many were pushed into, uh, telehealth. Um,
- 2:05we're now looking at hospital at home initiatives and really, you know,
- 2:10pushing care out to where the patients really wanna consume it,
- 2:13which is closer to their home. And,
- 2:16and I think that the opportunities there are to be able to really accomplish
- 2:20these things through the, through innovative solutions and,
- 2:25and technological solutions. Um, in terms of the headwind, uh,
- 2:30certainly, uh, um, as,
- 2:32as the proliferation of technology takes place in the healthcare
- 2:38industry. So it does the expansion of the, uh,
- 2:41threat landscape because, you know, each of,
- 2:44of those components of technology carries cybersecurity risk with it.
- 2:50And, and so as cybersecurity professionals, I,
- 2:52I think where we're seeing the headwinds beyond just the traditional,
- 2:57uh, threats, um, across industries is really in, um,
- 3:02being able to secure devices, um, more,
- 3:07more and more devices as they, you know,
- 3:09as their usage and adoption increases in the industry.
- 3:14Absolutely. I can imagine it's, uh, a lot to take in, especially as the,
- 3:18as the information security officer to stay on top of all the different devices
- 3:22that are coming through for medical, especially reasons, um, in,
- 3:26in making sure that they're secure as well as the partnerships that you have
- 3:29with the companies, um, whether it's vendors or, uh, device companies. So,
- 3:34you know, as time time goes on and things evolve, how do you keep track of that?
- 3:39How do you really make sure that the, um,
- 3:41organizations you're working with and devices that you're using are as secure as
- 3:45possible?
- 3:47I mean, it, it, it, it takes a methodology. Um, and,
- 3:51and so for us and consistency, some good prophecies and for us,
- 3:57um, you know, no new technology or partnership that,
- 4:01that our organization wants to adopt, um, all all of that technology,
- 4:06I should say, goes through our security risk assessment process.
- 4:10And so before we even engage in contracting,
- 4:14the expectation is that our team is reaching out to the vendors,
- 4:19um, assessing their security programs, uh, developing,
- 4:24um, you know, documentation and, uh,
- 4:28identification of risks that are then, um,
- 4:33they're shared with me. Um,
- 4:35and then I engage with the clinical leaders and business leaders and dialogue
- 4:40around risk treatment options, risk management capabilities.
- 4:44And once we agree on the overall risk management for any particular technology,
- 4:50uh, then we move to contracting at which time we, um,
- 4:55add a set of security contractual requirements that the vendors have to
- 5:00adhere to. Um, and, and then we get agreement on,
- 5:04on how they're going to employ security before we, you know,
- 5:07before we execute the contracts and then deploy the technology.
- 5:11So it's a rigorous process that that enables us to really, um,
- 5:16identify, uh,
- 5:17where we're introducing potential risk into the organization and how we're going
- 5:21to manage those risks. Uh, and then, you know, from a,
- 5:25from a team perspective,
- 5:27our team has technology that we leverage, um,
- 5:31to document all of this work and to manage the risks that we
- 5:36ultimately agree, uh, agree on. So it's, you know, it's,
- 5:41it's a life cycle. Um, it's incredibly time consuming,
- 5:44but it really does add value to the overall conversation and to the healthcare
- 5:49delivery system.
- 5:51That's such a great point.
- 5:52Thank you so much for going through that and really breaking down the process.
- 5:56Now, given what we've been talking about on the information security side,
- 6:01how do you think about growth and adding value to the organization?
- 6:05I know that cybersecurity is so important,
- 6:08information security is so important and changing on a daily basis. Um,
- 6:13so from your perspective, what are you doing kind of constantly,
- 6:17consistently to make sure that, you know, the,
- 6:19the skills you bring to the table and, um,
- 6:22the investments in health it are really adding value to the overall health
- 6:26system?
- 6:28I think that's a great question. I, I would say it,
- 6:32it starts with really having a strong partnership with the
- 6:38clinical and business leaders and really aligning the information security
- 6:42program with the overall organizational strategies.
- 6:46So it starts with dialoguing with our stakeholders,
- 6:50understanding, you know, what, what, what are the areas where the,
- 6:54where the organization wants to grow, how, what are the strategies for, for,
- 6:59for that growths?
- 7:00And then building an information security program that facilitates those,
- 7:06those initiatives. So, um,
- 7:08think about it less about building a security program
- 7:13in a silo,
- 7:14but more wrapping that security program around the overall
- 7:19organizational strategy. And in that way, you know, our,
- 7:24um,
- 7:24our vision mission can be carried out with a
- 7:29frictionless model that doesn't have security sort of getting in the way,
- 7:34but actually carrying the overall organizational strategy.
- 7:40I love that. I think that makes so much sense, you know,
- 7:42and really is very intuitive when you're trying to, um,
- 7:45that make sure that you're able to serve patients while you're able to keep
- 7:49their information safe. You're able to, uh,
- 7:51continue operationally running effectively without some of the challenges that
- 7:55come, um, with a cybersecurity incident. So I,
- 7:59I love that kind of way of looking at cybersecurity and,
- 8:02and I information security as well. Um, you know, I,
- 8:06I know in healthcare right now, cybersecurity obviously is very important and,
- 8:10you know,
- 8:11a lot of organizations would love to put a lot of resources towards that. Um,
- 8:15you know, there's never too much security that you can have,
- 8:17but right now a lot of hospitals and health systems too are experiencing a
- 8:22challenging financial year, uh,
- 8:24staffing shortages and inflation continues to make the budgets, you know,
- 8:29challenging for right now. So from your perspective,
- 8:31where do you see as it still being important to make investments within, uh,
- 8:36cybersecurity con security and information security?
- 8:39What is really important if you've got a limited resource pool.
- 8:44You know, making sure that you're prioritizing the basics.
- 8:49Cybersecurity can be very expensive,
- 8:51but basic cyber hygiene is something that doesn't cost a lot of money.
- 8:56And so I'm, I'm speaking in terms of vulnerability management,
- 9:01uh, patch management, uh,
- 9:04really having strong security operations, having, you know,
- 9:09building a efficiency into your processes,
- 9:12all of that actually can save money. Um,
- 9:17in terms of, you know, the,
- 9:19the limited budgets that I think we're all seeing across the industry, uh,
- 9:24just underline the importance of really finding a balance between, uh,
- 9:29care delivery, uh, and patient safety and cybersecurity.
- 9:34And, and so everything, everything we do is about risk management.
- 9:38It's about looking at the risk to the organization,
- 9:41prioritizing where we want to focus our, our, you know, our budget and,
- 9:46and our resources. And then ensuring that we're, you know,
- 9:51constantly putting our best foot forward. Uh, that,
- 9:54that doesn't change with constrained budgets.
- 9:56So it's still really looking at where does the organization wanna move, um,
- 10:01care delivery, and then what are the steps and,
- 10:04and the investments that we need to make in order to advance that work.
- 10:09And then dialoguing with our leadership to demonstrate, um, where,
- 10:14where we have risk,
- 10:15where we need to address risk and partnering with them on making decisions about
- 10:19priorities and investments.
- 10:23Got it. I love that. I think that makes a lot of sense, you know,
- 10:25and indefinitely is helpful to think about and understand,
- 10:28especially like you said, uh, having that good cyber hygiene really, um,
- 10:33can make a big difference in your vulnerability levels.
- 10:36So thank you so much for going through that. Now,
- 10:39before we wrap up our conversation,
- 10:40I'm wondering if you could talk about some of the best opportunities that you're
- 10:43seeing for growth and development in the future,
- 10:45both for yourself as well as the teams that you work with.
- 10:49So we are, uh, uh,
- 10:51Christiana Care is a very technology forward organization,
- 10:55meaning we, um,
- 10:57we really believe that through the digital means,
- 11:01we will be able to transform patient care and, and deliver better care.
- 11:05And so for, uh, from that perspective, we are doing, you know,
- 11:09things like hospital at home where we are, you know,
- 11:13admitting patients to their home as opposed to into a hospital room. Um,
- 11:17and if you think about, uh,
- 11:20if you've ever been in a hospital and you've visited somebody in a hospital, uh,
- 11:24on average inside a patient's room, there's about 17 different,
- 11:29um, medical devices that are attached to the patient or to the walls. Um,
- 11:34we're delivering all of that now to a patient's home, um,
- 11:38with the need to still, uh, secure all of that information.
- 11:43So that, that's one area where I'm really focused. I think that, you know,
- 11:47I agree with our organization's vision that this is the way to really improve
- 11:52patient care and grow our capabilities by expanding beyond the Ford Walls.
- 11:57Um,
- 11:58and the opportunity there is that we still have to secure all of those devices.
- 12:02I still need to do all that cyber hygiene that I referenced, um,
- 12:06whether it's inside the hospital or in somebody's home. So for me,
- 12:10the opportunities are really to be able to, um,
- 12:13be a leader in the healthcare cybersecurity space by identifying the
- 12:18architectures that are gonna be needed to do this kind of, you know, to, to,
- 12:22to meet the kind, the new care delivery model that, that,
- 12:26that I'm describing. It's not something that has been massively adapted.
- 12:31So from a cybersecurity perspective,
- 12:33there's still a lot of opportunity to be able to figure out how to do this and
- 12:37do this well. And what's exciting for me in my role is that I get to do it.
- 12:41I get to figure it out and hopefully, uh, hopefully, um,
- 12:46be able to then deliver a security architecture that healthcare organizations of
- 12:51the future, um, can, can adopt to, um,
- 12:55meet these new care delivery models.
- 12:59That's amazing. I I love that. What a,
- 13:01a great time to be in healthcare and in such a fun and interesting challenge,
- 13:05I'm sure. Honey, thank you so much for joining us on the podcast today, today.
- 13:09This has been a really awesome discussion. I've learned a lot,
- 13:12and I'm looking forward to meeting you in person as well at our Health IT
- 13:15Digital Health and Revenue Cycle event in October,
- 13:18where I know we'll just be able to continue this discussion, um, and,
- 13:21and really talk about a lot more as well. Well.
- 13:24It's been a true pleasure. Thank you for having me on this podcast,
- 13:28and I too am looking forward to continuing the conversation this fall and
- 13:32meeting you in person.
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