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The Most Disturbing Cases We have Covered How I Caught the Killer Full True Crime Documentary · Weird Darkness:True crime & The unexplained

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: When a murder is discovered.
• 0:03
  Speaker 2: What we found in Monica's home was pretty disturbing based
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: on how violent of a scene that we found.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Lives are torn apart.
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  Speaker 3: It was the most gruesome homicide scene that I'd ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: The sheer amount of trauma caused to Monica's body by
• 0:19
  Speaker 3: another human being took me back.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: It's up to the police to track down the killer.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have a gun?
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  Speaker 5: Yes. Okay, what kind of gun? Did you tell?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 2: When you want to build a case against someone in
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  Speaker 2: a homicide case, you need to establish the.
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  Speaker 7: Means, motive, and opportunity. And if it was a random person,
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  Speaker 7: what was the motive?
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  Speaker 1: Meet the murder detectives who reveal how they caught the killer.
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  Speaker 3: This crime will forever be written about in Bloomsbury's history books.
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  Speaker 3: This is by far the worst crime that ever took place.
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  Speaker 2: What I learned is all the fake things that your
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: parents told you, like don't be afraid of the boogeyman,
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: don't be afraid of that noise in the other room.
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  Speaker 2: There could be someone in your house. It happened in
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  Speaker 2: this case, and I saw it. A case like this
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  Speaker 2: is different than the movies because it doesn't happen in
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  Speaker 2: an hour and a half. This took every minute of
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  Speaker 2: four weeks and a lot of luck. It was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of procedure. It was a lot of slow movement,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of interviews that in the end meant nothing
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  Speaker 2: and led nowhere. I'm Lieutenant Nicholas Auriello. I was the
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  Speaker 2: lead detective on the Monica Massaro homicide back in 2007.
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  Speaker 2: Bloomsbury is a small rural town about four miles from
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  Speaker 2: the Pennsylvania border. It's a little farm town. There's one
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  Speaker 2: light in town, very slow moving.
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  Speaker 8: Bloomsbury doesn't have a local police department, so we are
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  Speaker 8: policed by the New Jersey State Police. The police would
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  Speaker 8: deal with, you know, very minor property offenses, a stolen
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  Speaker 8: garden gnome or.
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  Speaker 9: Things like that.
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  Speaker 8: Certainly nothing of this magnitude. But thankfully, the state police
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  Speaker 8: have experience as an agency dealing with larger crimes. But
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  Speaker 8: in Bloomsbury, this would not be in their expected regular duty.
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  Speaker 3: On July 30th of 2007, the state police received a
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  Speaker 3: 911 call from a concerned citizen who requested a well-being
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  Speaker 3: check be done on his house cleaner. She was supposed
• 2:59
  Speaker 3: to clean his house. But he hadn't seen or heard
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  Speaker 3: from her in several days.
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  Speaker 2: Perryville Station also received a second call for service that
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  Speaker 2: a woman's driver's registration to her vehicle and some personal
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  Speaker 2: belongings were found around some railroad tracks in Bloomsbury. And coincidentally,
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  Speaker 2: they happened to be the same address on Main Street.
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  Speaker 2: When the troopers responded to the two calls, they gained
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  Speaker 2: entry to the house and found a deceased body lying
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  Speaker 2: in the bedroom. So they called back to the station
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  Speaker 2: and requested a detective respond.
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  Speaker 7: To the scene.
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  Speaker 3: I received a call from a sergeant at Perryville Station.
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  Speaker 3: I had a newborn son at home that was two
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  Speaker 3: weeks old. And the sergeant said, Justin, we need you
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  Speaker 3: to come back to work. I think we have a homicide.
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  Speaker 2: Upon gathering information on the house, we learned it was
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  Speaker 2: Monica Massaro. Monica was a 37-year-old female, the same person
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  Speaker 2: who was the cleaning lady that the well-being check was
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: called on, and the same person whose vehicle registration and
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: car insurance were found about a block and a half
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  Speaker 2: behind the house. We were able to pull her picture
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  Speaker 2: up and identify her that way.
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  Speaker 1: As the detectives traveled to the scene, nothing could prepare
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  Speaker 1: them for what they would find.
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  Speaker 3: My name is Justin Blackwell. I'm a captain with the
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  Speaker 3: New Jersey State Police. In 2007, I was assigned to
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  Speaker 3: the Monica Massaro Homicide Investigation as a number two detective
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  Speaker 3: in the investigation.
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  Speaker 2: When I got here, I decided to do a walkthrough
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  Speaker 2: so I understood what I was working with. Upon entering
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  Speaker 2: the house, most of the house was very clean, in order.
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  Speaker 2: I made my way to the bedroom where Monica's body
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  Speaker 2: was found on top of the bed, having suffered many,
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  Speaker 2: many stab wounds.
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  Speaker 7: Blood had soaked through the.
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  Speaker 2: Entire bed and mattress, and it was apparent that something
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  Speaker 2: very violent had happened inside.
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  Speaker 3: This was the first homicide that I had investigated, so
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  Speaker 3: I was shocked by the sheer amount of blood and
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  Speaker 3: the injuries to Monica's body.
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  Speaker 2: She was found laying in her bed on her back
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  Speaker 2: with her T-shirt cut open and no pants on. She
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  Speaker 2: had a very apparent deep knife wound to her throat
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  Speaker 2: and a very big knife wound.
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  Speaker 7: To her chest. It was a shocking scene.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not what you go into your normal day
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  Speaker 2: expecting to see or encounter. So it definitely was very
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  Speaker 2: surprising when I got here.
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  Speaker 3: It seemed as though it was a personal attack. Someone
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  Speaker 3: that knew Monica had possibly gotten into an argument with her.
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  Speaker 3: Someone in her inner circle that would have done a
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  Speaker 3: personal attack on her.
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  Speaker 2: I noticed right away that there was not forced entry.
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  Speaker 2: The inside of the house was in order.
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  Speaker 7: It was pretty clean.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing had been turned upside down or trashed. So I
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  Speaker 2: found that very weird for such a bloody scene.
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  Speaker 1: Initial inquiries into Monica Massaro revealed she was a well-known
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  Speaker 1: and popular member of the community.
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  Speaker 8: I am Mark Peck. I was the mayor of Bloomsbury,
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  Speaker 8: New Jersey for almost nine years. Monica and I were
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  Speaker 8: friendly acquaintances. We would see each other, you know, walking
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  Speaker 8: on the sidewalk and would, you know, wave and say hello,
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  Speaker 8: maybe stop and make small talk for a minute or two.
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  Speaker 8: Monica was a very outgoing person. you know, bubbly person.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know anyone in town who met her who
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  Speaker 8: didn't like her.
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  Speaker 3: At the time of the killing, the local community was
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  Speaker 3: in shock. Everyone in that community in Bloomsbury knows each other.
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  Speaker 3: Families have raised their children in that community together for
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: generations to come. Everyone was scared, thinking it could be
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  Speaker 3: someone in their community that caused this murder.
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  Speaker 1: As police combed the crime scene, Items of evidence were
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: gathered for closer examination.
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  Speaker 10: I was a bench scientist and my responsibilities at that
• 7:26
  Speaker 10: time would have been to work on the items that
• 7:29
  Speaker 10: were submitted for that particular case. My name is Dolores Coniglio-Rivera.
• 7:37
  Speaker 10: I'm a forensic scientist with the New Jersey State Police
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  Speaker 10: Office of Forensic Sciences in the DNA Laboratory.
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  Speaker 7: We held the crime scene for many days.
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  Speaker 2: Our crime scene technicians processed every inch of Monica's apartment,
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  Speaker 2: from her office to the kitchen to the bedroom. The
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  Speaker 2: bedroom was a very bloody mess. One thing that we
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  Speaker 2: did find that seemed out of place was that there
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: was tissues. There was one on the floor and one
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  Speaker 2: in the wastebasket that appeared to have blood on them.
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  Speaker 2: We immediately sent those blood samples down to our forensic
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  Speaker 2: laboratory and We learned that it was Monica's blood and
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  Speaker 2: not the blood of.
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  Speaker 7: Whoever killed her.
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  Speaker 10: It was a pretty violent murder. And judging by the
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  Speaker 10: crimes that were committed upon Monica Massaro's body, there was
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  Speaker 10: some suspicion that there may have been a sexual element involved.
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  Speaker 10: This information would help determine the types of specimens that
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  Speaker 10: should have been collected from the crime scene and submitted
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  Speaker 10: to the laboratory for testing.
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  Speaker 2: Through all our processing, several days, we came up with
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  Speaker 2: no DNA that would link the crime to another person.
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  Speaker 2: So there were no fingerprints found at the scene. There
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  Speaker 2: was no blood. There were no foreign hairs. There was
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  Speaker 2: no saliva. We found no evidence of a person that
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: went in here.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: While detectives arranged an official warrant to search the rest
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  Speaker 1: of her home for additional clues, Monica's body was taken
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  Speaker 1: for autopsy.
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  Speaker 2: So the coroner estimated that it was probably a day
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  Speaker 2: before we found her body that she.
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  Speaker 7: Had been murdered.
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  Speaker 2: Monica's autopsy showed that she was killed by a cutting
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  Speaker 2: to her throat, which was the initial cut that led
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: to the almost decapitation. She was stabbed 17 times. However,
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: the throat cut caused her to bleed out and expire.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: The rest of the stab wounds were post-mortem. There was
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  Speaker 2: a giant cut down the middle of Monica exposing her
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: chest plate and her stomach and also appeared as though
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  Speaker 2: whoever had done this attempted to cut her breast off.
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  Speaker 3: The stab wounds appeared to be personal, as if someone
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  Speaker 3: was trying to send a message. It led us to
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  Speaker 3: believe that it was someone that she was intimately involved
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: in that had killed her.
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  Speaker 11: Monica's body showed that she wasn't just killed.
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  Speaker 12: She was literally desecrated.
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  Speaker 11: There are stab wounds that are really just indicating the
• 10:24
  Speaker 11: anger and the rage of the offender. So any additional
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  Speaker 11: stab wounds, especially those that occurred after she was already dead,
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  Speaker 11: really were just for the fun and the excitement and
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  Speaker 11: thrill of the offender.
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  Speaker 1: In what seemed such an aggressively motivated murder, officers delved
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  Speaker 1: into Monica's personal life and who could possibly want to
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  Speaker 1: kill her.
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  Speaker 3: Looking into Monica's history through her social media accounts, Monica
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: maintained a personal diary that she wrote about everything in.
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  Speaker 3: We learned that Monica had friends all over the country.
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  Speaker 3: She was an avid fan of the band Aerosmith and
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: frequently followed them around the country going to their various
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: tour dates. And she would sometimes go to motorcycle rallies
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  Speaker 3: and gatherings across New Jersey and Pennsylvania. So Monica knew
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people. She had a lot of friends.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't find many enemies, people that wished Monica harm.
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  Speaker 1: With a victim so well-liked, but with no forced entry
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  Speaker 1: into her home, police turned their attention to people Monica trusted.
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  Speaker 2: Monica had an ex-boyfriend that she was still seeing. He
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: had a fiancé who had recently threatened Monica and told
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  Speaker 2: her to stay away from her man.
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  Speaker 3: We came to find out that this ex-boyfriend had maintained
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: an intimate sexual relationship with Monica. up until the point
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  Speaker 3: of her death. But we were able to rule him
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: out through an alibi. Another suspect that we had was
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: the person who actually initially requested us to check on
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  Speaker 3: her well-being. We didn't think it was too common where
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: people would ask for their house cleaners to be checked
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: on at their home.
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  Speaker 2: He was very frantic. He had shown up at her house.
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  Speaker 2: His family was down the Jersey Shore at the time,
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  Speaker 2: so he was alone. He got interviewed for several hours
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  Speaker 2: and he was very confrontational. And that individual showed up
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: at the crime scene in his vehicle. When detectives went
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: to approach him, he took off and we had to
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  Speaker 2: chase him down and find out why he was showing
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: up at the crime scene again. So I found that
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  Speaker 2: to be an unusual behavior. But we were able to
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: use cellular telephone data and a timeline to establish that
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: he was not around at the time when the coroner
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  Speaker 2: believed that Monica was killed and when she was last
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: seen alive.
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  Speaker 7: After a couple of days, we were able to rule
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  Speaker 7: them out.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: As the search for a suspect widened beyond Monica's inner circle,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: police took a closer look around her home.
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  Speaker 2: Monica had a very quaint bedroom. You could tell it
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: was a single person lived there. She had stuffed animals
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: on her bed. You could tell, like, She was kind
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  Speaker 2: at heart. She just had what appeared to be a
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: pretty simple life.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things that sticks out to me is
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: that at the time of her death, Monica had been
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: reading the latest release of the Harry Potter book series,
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: and that book was laying next to Monica in the bedroom.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that there was no sign of a struggle,
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: it didn't appear to be a forced entry into the house...
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  Speaker 3: led me to believe that it must have been somebody
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: who knew Monica that committed this crime. Making next to
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  Speaker 3: kid notifications in law enforcement is one of the most
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  Speaker 3: difficult things that a law enforcement officer can ever experience.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of those things that no matter how many
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: times that you do it, it never gets any easier.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: And you often carry that with you in the memories
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: of the notifications for the rest of your career.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: Monica's family was heartbroken when they learned about her murder.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: They had bought the house out in Bloomsbury, rented it
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: out to her so she could.
• 14:29
  Speaker 7: Have her own life, have her own business. Nobody wanted
• 14:33
  Speaker 7: to hurt Monica.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: There was no apparent person out there that wanted to
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: cause her harm.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: At a dead end with their investigation into Monica's murder,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: police looked into any reports made in recent days that
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: could indicate a stranger being present in Bloomsbury at the time.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: People started reporting things to the state police that had
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: not been reported prior. On Saturday night, which would have
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: been July 28th, There was a mother and daughter who
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: said they were watching TV and thought they heard a
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: prowler outside of their window in the bushes. They looked
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: outside the window, didn't see anything, thought nothing of it.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: And several other similar reports were brought to our attention.
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  Speaker 3: At the time, people dismissed what they thought were prowling
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: reports to possibly the wind blowing branches or causing noises
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: outside their home. Nobody would have ever thought there would
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: have been a prowler lurking through Bloomsbury. So for the
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: first time in a long time, people started locking their
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: doors to their cars and their homes and really looking
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: over their shoulders as they walked through town.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: As police attempted to track down the anonymous night prowler,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: one of their suspects, a man who Monica knew, raised
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: alarm bells.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Between Monica's journals, her call detail records, her calendar that
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: she left notes on, we had determined that she had
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: gone to a club in central New Jersey and met
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: a man there and This person was not from the
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Bloomsbury area, and he was just someone that Monica had
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: mentioned to her friends. They had hooked up and spoken
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: on the phone a couple times, and Monica wasn't.
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  Speaker 7: Interested in pursuing a relationship with him.
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  Speaker 3: They had had dinner together once or twice, and he
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: just quickly appeared to grow very enamored with Monica. Prior
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: to Monica's death, he had left a cryptic voicemail on
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  Speaker 3: her phone that we came to describe as a breakup voicemail.
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  Speaker 3: And the tone of the voicemail that he left Monica
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: was essentially, if I can't be with you, then no
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: one can be with you. It was a very disturbing voicemail.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: We were able to identify him, track him down, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: he denied meeting her. And we had to play him
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: the voicemail for him to admit that it was him
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: on the phone, like whether he was going to harm
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: himself or harm her. And the fact that he wouldn't
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: own up to it originally made us very suspicious of him.
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  Speaker 7: But Based on his.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Work schedule and timeline, we were able to rule him
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: out as being involved in the murder.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: After we ruled out those initial suspects, we had to
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: start thinking outside of the box and we had to
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: start considering the fact that Monica had been murdered by
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: a total stranger. So we brought him to our search
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: outside of her immediate group of associates here in the
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: state of New Jersey.
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: We looked at.
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  Speaker 2: People that were part of her online community. Aeroforce One,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: which was the online Aerosmith group. We looked at people
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: in her business networking group.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: We knew we had an uphill climb and an uphill battle.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I had to start relying on analytics, various database searches,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: and good old investigative work, hoping to find a lucky
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: break in the case.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: As the investigation continued, the grieving community gathered for Monica's
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: memorial service.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: We knew there was a lot of people out there
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: that might show up to Monica's service, including the online community.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: So we had detectives show up in suits and we
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: also had detectives in plainclothes just kind of listening in
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: the conversations to see if.
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: We could learn something new that we didn't know about.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I think that we felt the most pressure trying to
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: find Monica's killer for her friends and family. We wanted
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: to bring closure to her parents who just lost their daughter.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: and we wanted to bring closure to some of her
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: closest friends. But the pressure also mounted from people who
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: didn't know Monica but lived in Bloomsbury. We wanted to
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: put the community at ease and to restore the town
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: of Bloomsbury to the sleepy little town in Hunterdon County
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that it once was.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: It was frightening to think that Monica was murdered by
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: a random person. Why would someone just randomly go into
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Monica's house and kill her? That could have led us
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: to anybody in the country Who was this random person
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: that could potentially have come into her house and killed
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: her and left without a trace?
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: As the investigation ran on, we started focusing on the
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: truck stop and did that have any impact or any
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: role in bringing someone to that area that was from
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the outside, someone that may have had a role in
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Monica's death.
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  Speaker 11: Truck stops are almost always in different police jurisdictions, if
• 19:19
  Speaker 11: not in different states.
• 19:21
  Speaker 12: And unless police are reaching out to.
• 19:24
  Speaker 11: Each other, there's really no way to notice patterns that
• 19:27
  Speaker 11: are going on across them. And the truck drivers who
• 19:31
  Speaker 11: are there one day and gone the next. Very difficult
• 19:34
  Speaker 11: for anyone to keep track of where they're going or
• 19:37
  Speaker 11: where they may have done the exact same thing in
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: the past.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: As the truck stop near to Monica's home became a
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: location of interest, police drafted in help from outside law
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: enforcement agencies.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: BICAP was a program that the FBI was running at
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: the time called the Violent Criminal Apprehension Program, which basically
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: you would give what we call an MO, a modus operandi,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: and some brief circumstances of your case you put into
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: the system and to see if there are any potential matches. Now,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: there were no matches for homicides during that timeframe, but
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: we did receive notification through that violent crime analysis program
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: that there had been the attempted murder and sexual assault
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: of a 15-year-old female in Chelmsford, Massachusetts on July 30th
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: of 2007, which happened to be the same day that
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: we discovered Monica Massaro deceased.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: 911 is wanted to report it. What is your emergency?
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Is there somebody still there?
• 20:53
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 20:54
  Speaker 14: Okay.
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: Is it a male party?
• 20:56
  Speaker 15: Yes.
• 20:56
  Speaker 16: He has a gun?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 20:58
  Speaker 14: What kind of gun?
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: Did you tell?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 21:01
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 16: Is it a knife and he held it to my throat?
• 21:03
  Speaker 17: Okay.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: A gun and a knife?
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 14: Okay.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: He's in the house?
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: He's threatening my parents.
• 21:09
  Speaker 11: Please.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: He's okay.
• 21:11
  Speaker 18: Do you know who he is?
• 21:12
  Speaker 19: I have no idea.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: He won't speak.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: She was sleeping in the bedroom next to her parents.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: She got woken up by this intruder. Her parents heard
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: their daughter, who was a teenager, whimpering, and they thought
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: that was weird.
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: So her father.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Came into the room, saw the individual standing above her,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: jumped on his back and put his arms around his
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: neck and started trying to restrain the individual, who was
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: much bigger. The victim's mom then came in the room
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and grabbed the intruder's knife with both of her bare
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: hands so that he couldn't stab her daughter.
• 21:47
  Speaker 16: What does he look like?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. He has a mask on.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I need you to stay on line with me.
• 21:53
  Speaker 15: He has a mask on, all black mask.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: He has a gun and a knife.
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: He's like a big guy.
• 21:58
  Speaker 16: Is he still in the house?
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he has a southern accent.
• 22:01
  Speaker 15: He has a southern accent.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: OK. The father has the guy held down right now.
• 22:08
  Speaker 16: We have cruisers coming.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: You see the cruiser? All right, go flag the cruiser down.
• 22:15
  Speaker 11: OK.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Where in the house is he, do you know?
• 22:20
  Speaker 11: OK.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 22:21
  Speaker 14: The officers in Massachusetts.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Entered the home and detained the intruder who was still
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: being held down by the victim's father. He was immediately
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: taken in for questioning at the local police station.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: They identified their suspect as Adam Leroy Lane. Adam did
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: some surveillance and did his background. He realized that he
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: was able to get into the McDonough home through an
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: unlocked back door. He then saw a vulnerable female sleeping
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: by herself inside of the house, and he took advantage
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Given the similarities in the break-in and attack, along with
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the matching dates of Monica's murder, the detectives in Bloomsbury
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: contacted Chelmsford Police Department.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Other facts that we learned about what happened up in
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Massachusetts when speaking with the detectives is that both the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: victim and her mother Jeannie's purses were taken out of
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the house... and left on the back table on the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: back deck while the person was inside the house. Kind
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: of similar to Monica's purse that was taken and thrown
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: on the roof of the warehouse by the train tracks
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: behind her house.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: They were keen to learn more about the man in custody.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: We called up and got a hold of the detective
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: that did the investigation. And we said, hey, just on
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: a hunch, we're spinning our wheels here in New Jersey.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Did you keep his truck?
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: He goes, yeah.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, do you have anything that links
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: him to New Jersey? And he pulls out a receipt
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: from the Bloomsbury truck stop on July 29th, 2007.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And they said to us, does a pilot truck stop
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: ring any bells? Is there a pilot truck stop near
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: your murder scene? And we said, absolutely. The pilot truck
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: stop is about a mile away from our murder scene.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: And we will be up in Massachusetts tomorrow to come
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: speak to you further about this case.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I actually jumped up out of my chair when they
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: said we have a receipt from Bloomsbury. And it was
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the first thing linking an outsider, a random person with
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: our At least our town, you know?
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I think I have a picture of the receipt in here.
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: Here it is.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Here you go.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: What's that say? It says.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: July 29th, right?
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: July 29th, 2007. It's 5.13 in the morning.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: Was he buying a radar detector?
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Bought a radar detector for $ 94.
• 25:11
  Speaker 15: 99.
• 25:11
  Speaker 20: Yeah. Right.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Incredible.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: With the receipt linking Adam Leroy Lane to Bloomsbury on
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the day of Monica's murder, detectives were optimistic he could
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: be their suspect.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: When Adam Lane was arrested in Massachusetts, he had with
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: him a black leather mask, several large knives, a military
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: knife with a serrated back, throwing stars, a choking rope,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and other assorted weapons.
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: There were a huge number of items submitted to the
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: laboratory for this particular case throughout the course of the investigation.
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: The pictures that I saw of that knife, it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: Was a very dangerous looking weapon.
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: From what I recall, both sides of the knife had
• 25:57
  Speaker 10: a serrated edge.
• 25:59
  Speaker 11: With a stabbing, the person has to be there and
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: actually feel bones and ligaments being cut and really watch
• 26:08
  Speaker 11: the person that they're inflicting this on suffer. A serrated
• 26:12
  Speaker 11: knife is literally intended not just to cut through... bone
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: and ligament and skin, but it's actually meant to tear
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: it apart and make sure that there's no chance of survival.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: The detectives were smart enough to realize there was something
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: more going on with Adam Lane. So they executed a
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: search warrant on his truck. And what was very startling,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: they found a DVD player with a little screen, and
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: inside that DVD player was a movie called Hunting Humans.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Hunting Humans is a movie that's about a serial killer
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: who goes around killing random victims with knives and choking
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: wires and going around and essentially hunting his prey for
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the thrill of the kill. During a search of Adam
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Lane's truck, the authorities up there found a necklace that
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: was very specific.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: It went around the neck.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Down the front and around the waist that we were
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: eventually able to confirm had belonged to Monica. So Adam
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Lane's truck went into a tow yard and the tow
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: yard emptied all of Adam Lane's remaining belongings into a dumpster.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: We were able to systematically search the dumpster for Adam's belongings.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: We found several sets of like black spandex clothing mixed
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: in with his belongings, we did find.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: Long blonde hair, which we believe could belong to Monaco.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: As detectives made arrangements to interview Adam Leroy Lane, Massachusetts
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: police sent their evidence to the New Jersey Forensics Lab
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: for DNA testing.
• 27:58
  Speaker 10: We were sent a sample from Adam Leroy Lane at
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: some point after he was arrested, and that sample was
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: used to generate a DNA profile. The key evidence were
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: a few knives that had been collected from the suspect.
• 28:14
  Speaker 10: And those items collectively had DNA from a number of
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: different victims, as well as from the suspect himself.
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: When the offender is bringing a murder weapon to that scene,
• 28:28
  Speaker 11: there is microscopic evidence from other locations that they've been.
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: And that could even be other crime scenes they've been at.
• 28:36
  Speaker 12: DNA from other victims.
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: That's exactly what happened in this case, where evidence found
• 28:42
  Speaker 11: at one crime scene not only identified the offender's blood,
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: but also multiple victims.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: This truck stops a little bit over half a mile
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: from Monica's house, right at the end of Main Street.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: This stop is a big hub for travelers and transients.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: They come in, they can stay overnight, and then they're gone.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: People come and go all day long. During Adam Lane's
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: interview up in Chelmsford, Massachusetts, he admitted to being at
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the truck stop here in Bloomsbury.
• 29:18
  Speaker 17: Adam, tell us what happened on the night when you
• 29:22
  Speaker 17: were in New Jersey and stopped at the restaurant or
• 29:24
  Speaker 17: food setting.
• 29:28
  Speaker 21: I was walking around, walking around all the way through.
• 29:34
  Speaker 21: That's how you go for a walk sometimes. I had
• 29:37
  Speaker 21: lots of time Amen. house and I was going through it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 21: I was going to walk through.
• 29:50
  Speaker 15: It.
• 29:50
  Speaker 20: I started screaming.
• 29:51
  Speaker 21: The first thing I did, it happened.
• 29:58
  Speaker 17: I wouldn't say it was so What happened?
• 30:03
  Speaker 21: What happened?
• 30:06
  Speaker 20: I guess I surprised her.
• 30:09
  Speaker 21: She surprised me. I didn't know what I was going
• 30:12
  Speaker 21: to do. I wasn't messing with anything.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Initial impressions were that he was kind of like an
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Aw shucks, truck driver. He was very soft-spoken. He wasn't
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: aggressive when he interacted with detectives. But he was also
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: willing to talk to us.
• 30:32
  Speaker 17: Just take me through, piece by piece, as you went
• 30:35
  Speaker 17: through the community and the houses.
• 30:37
  Speaker 20: I just walked down the street. Okay. Went through some yards.
• 30:42
  Speaker 20: Door was unlocked, and I went in.
• 30:44
  Speaker 17: You said how many houses?
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Did you try?
• 30:45
  Speaker 21: I don't know.
• 30:46
  Speaker 20: I don't know.
• 30:48
  Speaker 21: I just peeped right in and walked into the neighborhood.
• 30:52
  Speaker 21: He actually was pretty eager to tell his side of
• 30:54
  Speaker 21: the story.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Adam went so far as during that interview, he helped
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: them set up the video camera and tripod to capture
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: his confession on tape.
• 31:26
  Speaker 17: Where did you cut it? Where did you cut it?
• 31:30
  Speaker 17: What part of her body?
• 31:32
  Speaker 21: She had a knife that was on the bed.
• 31:35
  Speaker 20: It was about that long. She rolled against the cover
• 31:39
  Speaker 20: out here. There wasn't nothing to do.
• 31:43
  Speaker 21: You couldn't, I mean, it was definitely, you couldn't do
• 31:46
  Speaker 21: nothing with it. After that, when she died, I made
• 31:53
  Speaker 21: it look like somebody had been soldered her and everything.
• 31:57
  Speaker 20: I didn't know what else to do. Adam, let's, let's,
• 32:04
  Speaker 20: let's go through this, okay? It was an accident? Yeah,
• 32:09
  Speaker 20: it was an accident. I never meant to hurt nobody.
• 32:11
  Speaker 21: God knows I don't want to kill nobody.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: He confessed, and then he put his head in his hand.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: During that confession, one of the other things he wanted
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: us to know was that he was going to kill
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: the 15-year-old female in Chelmsford, Massachusetts, but he was not
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: going to sexually assault her because he did not want
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: to go to jail as a child rapist, but he
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: had no problem going to jail as a murderer.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Adam Lane eventually confessed to being involved in Monica Massaro's
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: death and insinuated that she had actually startled him. And
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: she began to struggle and she rolled her neck over
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: his knife, causing her to bleed out in a short
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: matter of time. Adam gave a very detailed explanation of
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the inside of Monica's residence and He actually drew us
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: a map of the layout of her residence, where her
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: bed was, where her kitchen was, where her living room was,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: where he went in.
• 33:26
  Speaker 20: This is the front door. This door was standing wide open.
• 33:29
  Speaker 20: She come down. Surprised me. I turned, I was in
• 33:34
  Speaker 20: the bathroom.
• 33:37
  Speaker 17: That's just, that's just her house. This is the bedroom.
• 33:44
  Speaker 17: There's a clock right here. Her bathroom is right here.
• 33:47
  Speaker 17: I tried to get her to be quiet. All I
• 33:49
  Speaker 17: wanted to do was get away. I was out there
• 33:52
  Speaker 17: hurting over there. When she first sees you, where exactly
• 33:58
  Speaker 17: are you?
• 33:58
  Speaker 21: When you realize she first sees you.
• 34:02
  Speaker 20: It's me. Yeah, she had jumped down.
• 34:06
  Speaker 21: Look, she laid down, but she sat straight up and
• 34:08
  Speaker 21: got out of bed when she seen me and started screaming.
• 34:11
  Speaker 20: Let me drop a little bit. Here, this is the house.
• 34:15
  Speaker 21: All right.
• 34:17
  Speaker 20: They all should get a conviction on this.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Adam also gave a very detailed explanation of all the
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: other stab wounds after Monica had died. And Adam explained
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: that he wanted to throw the police off as though
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: we were looking for a crazy person, and that's why
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: he mutilated her body.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: The masks were recovered at the time of Adam's arrest.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: He'd been wearing them when he broke into the McDonough house.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I just think they spoke to the creepy nature in
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: which Adam was obviously prowling through these neighborhoods looking for
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: his next victim.
• 34:57
  Speaker 11: The mask that was used, essentially the only thing that
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: the victim can see is their eyes. This is terrifying
• 35:04
  Speaker 11: for a victim to see coming at them. Any victim
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: that saw this would immediately know something bad is about
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: to happen to them.
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: This is one of the leather masks that was collected.
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: You can see the cutouts for the eyes and the
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: nose and the ears. The DNA profiles that were obtained
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: from some of these masks only matched back to Adam
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: Leroy Lane. There was no DNA on the masks that
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: were linked to any of the female victims in this case.
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: This is a picture of the double-edged knife. The DNA
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: testing showed us that there was DNA from both the
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: female victims, in this case, on this particular item.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: We had beliefs that Adam might have killed before based
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: on the desecration that he did to Monica's body. It
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: was almost as though he was comfortable with it, the
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: way he cut her, almost like trying things out. We
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: wouldn't know how many other cases there would be, but
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: to go from zero to that seemed very excessive.
• 36:16
  Speaker 11: Going so far beyond what's necessary to engage in the
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: death of a person, it really suggests to police, this
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: is somebody that has such a level of anger and
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: hatred and venom and such a capacity for murder, this
• 36:30
  Speaker 11: is not going to be a one-off event. They've either
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: done it before or they're going to.
• 36:34
  Speaker 14: Do it again.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Concerned they might be dealing with a serial killer, police
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: started looking for similar unsolved crimes that had occurred along
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Adam Leroy Lane's trucking route through the northeastern states during
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the summer of 2007.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: After we were done in Massachusetts, we went down to
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Adam's hometown in North Carolina. We did our investigation there
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: with the mother of his child, his girlfriend, his ex-wife,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the people in town. And as we were traveling back
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: to New Jersey, we got a call and we were
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: told to stop in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, that they had similar
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: cases to ours.
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: And Pennsylvania State Police wanted to meet with us.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: The cases involved a female who was murdered by the
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: name of Darlene Ewald, who was murdered while she was
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: talking on her phone on her back patio. And then
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: another one, she survived, but she was attacked while she
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: was sleeping on her couch.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Darlene Ewald was talking with close friends on the phone.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: just disgust in life, when during the phone conversation, the
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: phone went quiet and someone had come up behind her
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: and cut her throat. It was a random act. Her
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: son was home in the basement. Her husband was home
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: sleeping in bed. So a random person came onto her
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: property and cut her and then disappeared just like that.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: There was a second attack four days later, close to Harrisburg.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: The victim was lying on a couch inside her house.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: An individual entered through an unlocked back door while she
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: was sleeping on the couch, cut her throat and plunged
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: a knife into her chest.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: She survived by luck. She sustained injuries from her neck
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: across her collarbone and through her shoulder. Adam He quietly
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: and calmly left the house after thinking he had murdered her.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Her case was similar to Monica's in that she was
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: a female sleeping by herself at the time. After speaking
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: with the detectives in Pennsylvania, we thought there was a
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: strong likelihood that the murders of Monica Massaro, Darlene Ewald
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: were all connected.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: The police out in Pennsylvania had collected items of evidence
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: from the scene, including a glove that was left behind.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: At the attack.
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: The DNA that was found on this particular glove was
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: that of Adam Leroy Lane and Darlene Ewald, which was
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: a separate homicide in Pennsylvania.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Convinced they had their killer, police still couldn't determine the
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: reason behind the nature of some of the victims' injuries.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: None of the victims were sexually assaulted during these crimes.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Monica was stabbed in her genitals, but she was not
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: sexually assaulted in another way. And the victims of Pennsylvania
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: were not sexually assaulted. So it was significant that there
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: wasn't a sexual angle to these crimes.
• 39:50
  Speaker 11: The psychodynamic theory behind this is that for people that
• 39:56
  Speaker 11: actually are unable to engage in a sexual assault because
• 40:01
  Speaker 11: they are suffering from either some type of dysfunction or impotency,
• 40:05
  Speaker 11: they actually use the knife as a phallic tool and
• 40:10
  Speaker 11: use that to stab the person in the genitals as
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: if they were assaulting them sexually, which is even more
• 40:18
  Speaker 11: brutal and sadistic, but really comes from the same mental place.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Adam Lane had a small criminal history, nothing extensive. He
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: had no homicides on his record, minor assaults, minor things.
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: What we learned about.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Adam after the fact is that anytime he'd go home
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: after a long trucking trip, he'd wash his knives with bleach,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: clean his clothes.
• 40:46
  Speaker 14: So.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: We happened to catch him on the route that he
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: was running before he got back home.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: So do I know if we ever would have caught him?
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I can't say that we would have.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: We needed that little break in him getting caught in
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Massachusetts for us to put it all together.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Adam Leroy Lane was charged with homicide on August 28th
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: of 2007.
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: We felt an.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Immense amount of pride in our investigation and pride that
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: we could bring such a deviant and malicious killer to custody.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Adam Lane was charged with the murder of Monica Massaro,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the murder of Darlene Ewald. He was charged with the
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: attempted murder for the two Pennsylvania attacks.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Detective Warrior Olo and I had actually brought Adam Leroy
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Lane back into the state of New Jersey from Massachusetts.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: So it was a unique experience interacting with and transporting
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: a serial killer. And seeing a human being in court
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: and face to face that was capable of such violence
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: against people that he'd never met, such random violence, was
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a feeling I'll never forget. He's what nightmares are made
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: of and the type of person that needs to be
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: in jail for the rest of his life.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Adam Lane was eventually found guilty without a trial. There
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: was so much evidence against him between our case in
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: New Jersey and the other cases that he didn't even
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: try and fight the case. He just pled to 50
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: years in prison.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: He's currently serving his time in Pennsylvania. In the state
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania, he pled guilty to life in prison in
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: order to escape the death penalty. Adam Leroy Lane chose
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: his victims through physical surveillance. He spent a lot of
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: time in neighborhoods looking to find female victims who were alone.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: He certainly would have gone on to kill again.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: With her killer safely behind bars, Monica's family were finally
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: able to grieve.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I believe Monica's family got a sense of closure because
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: we were able to explain that it was a serial
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: killer going into females' houses. Monica didn't bring this on
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: to herself. This was a random killer that found an
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: unlocked door. It wasn't her doing that brought her end
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: to her.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: The Monica Massaro investigation means a lot to me. There's
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: not a day that goes by that I don't drive
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: past Monica's house or through the town of Bloomsbury and
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think of her memory and think about having
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: to find the killer of a female who I never
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: met before she died, but someone who I knew very
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: well after she was killed.
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: Adam Lane chose victims that were female. He didn't want
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: to fight a man.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: He found vulnerable victims that a large man as himself
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to fight back. I'm glad that the
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: boogeyman's off the street.
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: Does he potentially have other victims out there?
• 43:55
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 43:57
  Speaker 22: Absolutely.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: When a murder is discovered....
• 44:28
  Speaker 19: Tampa Police 911, what's the address of your emergency?
• 44:32
  Speaker 16: Well, I live at * * * Street where.
• 44:35
  Speaker 23: We're having all these murders and I just heard two
• 44:37
  Speaker 23: gunshots out towards Nebraska.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Lives are torn apart forever.
• 44:45
  Speaker 24: I can't talk to him.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: I can't see him.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I can't hug him.
• 44:48
  Speaker 12: I can't do nothing because he's not home.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: It's up to the police to track down the killer.
• 44:56
  Speaker 23: So when the fourth murder happened, we felt that we
• 44:58
  Speaker 23: were at war with a monster in this community trying
• 45:01
  Speaker 23: to kill people.
• 45:03
  Speaker 11: Nobody was safe. Everybody in the city of Tampa was
• 45:07
  Speaker 11: a suspect.
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: You worry about the safety of every officer. That was
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: a constant concern. Fear in the pit of your stomach
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: that someone's just going to walk up on one of
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: your officers and do something terrible.
• 45:22
  Speaker 24: These victims had really nothing in common other than the
• 45:25
  Speaker 24: fact that they were walking alone at night.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Meet the murder detectives who reveal how they caught the killer.
• 45:36
  Speaker 23: For me personally, I was extremely worried. What if he
• 45:39
  Speaker 23: doesn't end up stopping me?
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: What was so scary for so many people is that
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: you started to get the sense it could happen to anyone.
• 45:51
  Speaker 23: We didn't want to be labeled that city that has,
• 45:54
  Speaker 23: by definition, a serial killer. TV shows are interesting.
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: They somehow solve everything in 30 minutes.
• 46:17
  Speaker 23: I wish it was as easy as CSI makes it look,
• 46:20
  Speaker 23: but that's not reality. It may make for good TV,
• 46:23
  Speaker 23: but the cops that are doing it day in and
• 46:26
  Speaker 23: day out all around the country have to do it
• 46:28
  Speaker 23: a little differently.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: As prosecutors.
• 46:39
  Speaker 24: Difficult cases will go home with us, but we know
• 46:42
  Speaker 24: that it is our job to get justice for victims
• 46:44
  Speaker 24: and to get justice for victims' families. And so the
• 46:47
  Speaker 24: days can sometimes be very long and they can sometimes
• 46:50
  Speaker 24: be very hard and very emotionally taxing, but we know
• 46:53
  Speaker 24: that the work is important and that's what pushes us forward.
• 46:59
  Speaker 9: Seminole Heights will most certainly stay with me forever. It's
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: the the worst crime in ever trying to make someone
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: whole again. You can't bring them back to life. You
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: can't make their families whole again, ever.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: On October 9th of 2017, Benjamin Mitchell was waiting for
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: a city bus at about nine o'clock at night, and
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: he was shot and killed. My name is Jennifer Lee.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: I'm a television news anchor in Tampa, Florida. In 2017,
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: I was anchoring the evening news when this case started
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: to unfold.
• 47:45
  Speaker 22: Hello? Hello?
• 47:50
  Speaker 19: I'm on 15th Avenue. My guy just got shot.
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: He's laying here.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: I think you guys need to come fast.
• 48:07
  Speaker 23: I was already home when the sergeant of homicide called
• 48:09
  Speaker 23: me to brief me on what we had.
• 48:11
  Speaker 9: I knew there was a homicide.
• 48:13
  Speaker 23: Then he gave me some of the details to the case,
• 48:15
  Speaker 23: that a young black male that was standing by a
• 48:17
  Speaker 23: bus stop that got gunned down basically told me there
• 48:20
  Speaker 23: wasn't a whole lot of evidence that we knew of.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: At that point.
• 48:25
  Speaker 11: The most serious crime that had happened to that point
• 48:28
  Speaker 11: in my neighborhood, to my awareness, was bike theft.
• 48:31
  Speaker 12: So to have a murder occur was really shocking.
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: My name is Scott Harmon. I'm a homicide prosecutor. I
• 48:43
  Speaker 13: work in our homicide division. Benjamin Mitchell is 22 years old.
• 48:47
  Speaker 13: He was a native of Nevada who had moved here
• 48:50
  Speaker 13: to live with his father and his aunt. He was
• 48:53
  Speaker 13: on the evening of October 9th of 2017 waiting at
• 48:58
  Speaker 13: a bus stop just about a block away from his house.
• 49:03
  Speaker 13: While he was standing there, he was shot four times.
• 49:06
  Speaker 13: He was shot in his chest, in his stomach, in
• 49:08
  Speaker 13: his arm, and another shot above his ribcage.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: What was so shocking about Benjamin Mitchell's killing, it wasn't
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: extremely late. It was nine o'clock at night, a totally
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: reasonable time for a young person to be out in
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: Seminole Heights. He lived in that neighborhood. This was his neighborhood.
• 49:29
  Speaker 23: When you look at crime rate, Tampa is one of
• 49:30
  Speaker 23: the lowest in America. Seminole Heights is just north of
• 49:35
  Speaker 23: our downtown area. Shootings are not common in Seminole Heights.
• 49:39
  Speaker 23: It's a very family-oriented area. If you drive around at night,
• 49:42
  Speaker 23: you'll see people walking their dogs or jogging and just
• 49:45
  Speaker 23: doing things.
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: It's a very safe neighborhood.
• 49:49
  Speaker 23: Ben was living with his parents, had actually left his house,
• 49:52
  Speaker 23: was waiting on the bus, listening to his earphones, minding
• 49:55
  Speaker 23: his own business when he was gunned down for no
• 49:58
  Speaker 23: apparent reason and left to die right here on this sidewalk.
• 50:04
  Speaker 23: My name is Ruben Delgado. A lot of people know
• 50:06
  Speaker 23: me as Butch Delgado. I was the captain of the
• 50:10
  Speaker 23: Major Crimes Investigation Unit. When we got to this crime scene,
• 50:14
  Speaker 23: the only evidence we really had were a few bullet casings.
• 50:17
  Speaker 9: On the ground.
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: We were told by officers that 40 caliber shell casings
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: had been found at that scene at the time.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Shortly after the shooting, police canvassed the neighborhood for clues.
• 50:37
  Speaker 23: And we were fortunate enough to find a couple houses
• 50:39
  Speaker 23: down the street that had video of somebody walking to
• 50:42
  Speaker 23: the crime scene and then running.
• 50:43
  Speaker 9: From the crime scene. This is the video we got.
• 50:50
  Speaker 23: He's walking towards the homicide scene. He's walking to where
• 50:53
  Speaker 23: Ben is to murder him, basically. And he's casually looking
• 50:58
  Speaker 23: at his phone, just walking through the neighborhood. Can't explain
• 51:01
  Speaker 23: how somebody can be that calm. walking towards a person
• 51:05
  Speaker 23: he's getting ready to shoot three or four times. We
• 51:11
  Speaker 23: didn't know exactly what the motive was for Ben to
• 51:14
  Speaker 23: be murdered. His history didn't say that he had any
• 51:17
  Speaker 23: acts of gang activity or violence, so just a young,
• 51:21
  Speaker 23: innocent kid that had no enemies and was just trying
• 51:24
  Speaker 23: to go see his girlfriend.
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: We had a blurry video that showed sort of a
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: shadowy figure in a coat that had some reflective qualities
• 51:34
  Speaker 9: on the coat. It was not in any way clear
• 51:37
  Speaker 9: enough to identify a subject.
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: I'll be honest, when the initial very first shooting happened,
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: we all thought it was just a random crime that happened.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: There was nothing significant other than the fact it was tragic.
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: We knew someone was dead. We didn't have any other
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: significant information to suggest what we were all in for.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: Yes, there's a dead body out here.
• 52:14
  Speaker 15: It's a white woman.
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: She's wearing a red shirt.
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: It's a lot.
• 52:17
  Speaker 14: It's a lot.
• 52:17
  Speaker 25: Yes, it is.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: On October 13th, we found out Monica Hoffa had been murdered.
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: Monica is another young person, just like Benjamin Mitchell. It
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: got our attention because these were two people who were
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: just impossibly young to have their lives cut short. It
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: didn't make sense.
• 52:58
  Speaker 23: Monica Hoffa was leaving her house to go meet up
• 53:00
  Speaker 23: with a friend when she was encountered by our killer.
• 53:06
  Speaker 23: What we think is that she saw him, tried to
• 53:08
  Speaker 23: run away, and got shot in the back multiple times,
• 53:11
  Speaker 23: ending up in this field where we found her a
• 53:14
  Speaker 23: day later.
• 53:21
  Speaker 9: My name is Mike Stout. I was the captain of
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: the investigative branch at the Seminole Heights Task Force. I
• 53:28
  Speaker 9: was a third-generation Tampa police officer. My great-uncle started in
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: the 50s. My father was a detective. through the 80s, 90s,
• 53:37
  Speaker 9: and into the 2000s, so I knew I always wanted
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: to be a police officer. Monica Hoffa was not immediately found.
• 53:46
  Speaker 9: She had run after being shot and then had collapsed
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: in an overgrown lot where an old house had been
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: torn down. Monica had taken a couple of bullets to
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: the torso and then someone finished her off by shooting
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: her in the head.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Noticing a pattern between the two shootings, Tampa police turned
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: their attention to tracking the type of weapon and ammunition used.
• 54:23
  Speaker 23: We found some bullet casing at this scene as well.
• 54:26
  Speaker 23: After looking at them forensically, we were able to conclude
• 54:29
  Speaker 23: that the same gun was used in Monica Hoffa's shooting
• 54:32
  Speaker 23: as it was in Ben Mitchell's shooting.
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: We were worried beyond belief based on how close together
• 54:41
  Speaker 9: The first two shootings had been, well, we knew that
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: we felt the same person was doing it. We had
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: no idea who that person was at this point. He
• 54:50
  Speaker 9: obviously gave not a care about human life based on
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: the scenes that he left behind.
• 54:56
  Speaker 11: When the second murder had occurred in our neighborhood, my
• 55:04
  Speaker 11: instinct made me think these weren't unrelated.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: And in fact.
• 55:09
  Speaker 12: This was a serial killer at work.
• 55:14
  Speaker 23: At that point, it gets a little concerning for us
• 55:17
  Speaker 23: as detectives, hoping there's not another one coming the next day.
• 55:21
  Speaker 22: Seminole Heights is a neighborhood that in 2017 was enjoying.
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: A renaissance. Young people, older people were moving to that
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: community and they were revitalizing it. It was the kind
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: of place where you would buy a small bungalow and
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: refurbish it to its former glory. It was the kind
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: of place where people really felt they belonged, they felt safe,
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: they felt like they were neighbors.
• 56:00
  Speaker 23: So in Monica Hoffa's death, nothing indicated that she was
• 56:03
  Speaker 23: a violent person in criminal activity, drug activity. We didn't
• 56:07
  Speaker 23: think this was a gang activity. This was a random
• 56:09
  Speaker 23: act of violence similar to the first murder that we
• 56:11
  Speaker 23: worked four days prior. We knew that we were looking
• 56:16
  Speaker 23: for a.
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: 40 caliber Glock, and while that wasn't uncommon, what was
• 56:20
  Speaker 9: very uncommon was the type of ammunition, the brand. So
• 56:24
  Speaker 9: the brand of ammunition used in Seminole Heights was called
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: a V-Crown Elite, which is a nickel-plated round made by
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: Sig Sauer. And it's not a common bullet. So it's
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: not a bullet you find at our super stores or
• 56:39
  Speaker 9: even most sporting goods stores.
• 56:43
  Speaker 23: We had officers going door to door in this Seminole
• 56:45
  Speaker 23: Heights neighborhood, just identifying who lives there, if they've seen
• 56:48
  Speaker 23: anything suspicious. We had extra cameras that we wanted to
• 56:51
  Speaker 23: put up that we asked if we could put on
• 56:53
  Speaker 23: their houses to help get more surveillance in this area
• 56:56
  Speaker 23: to try to catch this killer. And the neighborhood responded
• 56:59
  Speaker 23: with a resounding help for us. Nothing but support from
• 57:02
  Speaker 23: this neighborhood.
• 57:08
  Speaker 11: People expect there to be so much DNA evidence and
• 57:13
  Speaker 11: CCTV and eyewitnesses every single time a murder occurs, but
• 57:16
  Speaker 11: that is not always the case. There was a police
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: helicopter in the air over our.
• 57:25
  Speaker 12: Homes 24 hours a day. It was like being in
• 57:28
  Speaker 12: a war zone.
• 57:29
  Speaker 11: You just heard that chopper going overhead with a searchlight
• 57:33
  Speaker 11: every hour of every day. And all the while, when
• 57:36
  Speaker 11: you're on the street, You're looking around thinking, are you
• 57:39
  Speaker 11: going to shoot me?
• 57:40
  Speaker 12: Are you the killer? Am I going to be the
• 57:42
  Speaker 12: victim to the next crime?
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: At this point, we had to release to the public
• 57:54
  Speaker 9: that we had a concern that the same person was
• 57:57
  Speaker 9: involved in these two murders. And we knew that the
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: minute we released that, the phones would begin ringing off
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: the hook.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Following the murder of the first victim, Benjamin Mitchell, police
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: released footage of a suspect running away from the scene.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I've come up with four reasons why this person is running.
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: One, they may be late for dinner.
• 58:23
  Speaker 15: Two, they're out exercising.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Three, they heard gunshots.
• 58:29
  Speaker 26: And number four, they just murdered Benjamin Mitchell.
• 58:40
  Speaker 13: The Tampa Police Department received thousands of tips from the
• 58:44
  Speaker 13: local community and from other law enforcement officers who worked
• 58:47
  Speaker 13: in that area as to potential suspects. What we discovered
• 58:53
  Speaker 13: through the first several weeks of the investigation was that
• 58:56
  Speaker 13: these victims were not related to each other. They didn't
• 59:00
  Speaker 13: know each other. Their families didn't know each other. So
• 59:03
  Speaker 13: we knew we had random killings. It was the randomness
• 59:07
  Speaker 13: of these murders that we really looked at when we
• 59:10
  Speaker 13: were investigating the case, and also the potential ways that
• 59:14
  Speaker 13: the killer was able to flee from the murders and
• 59:17
  Speaker 13: get away.
• 59:18
  Speaker 11: The fact that the killer would just shoot the victims,
• 59:23
  Speaker 11: often in the back when they didn't even know he
• 59:25
  Speaker 11: was coming, and never took anything from them, not their wallets,
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: not even their cash. It suggested that the motivation for
• 59:33
  Speaker 11: his crimes was the killing.
• 59:40
  Speaker 23: Now remember, this was getting close to times where the
• 59:43
  Speaker 23: weather's nice and people are out outside walking. So we
• 59:46
  Speaker 23: had a porch light campaign where we told them all
• 59:48
  Speaker 23: to put their porch lights on at night so there
• 59:51
  Speaker 23: was more light in the neighborhood. We encouraged our cops
• 59:54
  Speaker 23: to go eat at restaurants. up and down the Seminole
• 59:57
  Speaker 23: Heights area only because people would have felt safer going
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 23: in to eat or walking to a restaurant if the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 23: cops were around. So we tried to do those little things, again,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 23: to try to just keep it as normal as possible
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 23: for them.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: With two young victims killed within close proximity and with
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: no connection to each other, police had to pull in
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: resources and ramp up their search.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 9: Where that general neighborhood would have maybe four police officers
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 9: patrolling it, we would flood that area with over 100
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: police officers in cars with their lights on, just trying
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: to keep the killer at bay and at the same
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 9: time making the community feel safe in their own homes.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: Because we were very worried that he was showing no
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 9: signs of slowing down.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 21: On October 19th of 2017, we got word there was
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 21: a third victim in Seminole Heights.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 15: Anthony Naiboa is his name, and.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: He was shot and killed on 15th Street.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: And it's important to understand that's just four blocks away
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: from these other victims. So we knew right away, this
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: has got to be connected.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 11: Anthony was autistic. He was trying so hard to have
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 11: a great life. He took the wrong bus. He ended
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: up in the wrong place at the wrong time and
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 11: was murdered for it.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 9: That really hurt. We obviously now have 100 officers in
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 9: a geographical area trying to prevent a shooting, and we
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 9: weren't able to get it prevented.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 23: Our third victim, Anthony Nyboa, was walking this way. He
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 23: should have gotten off at the bus stop a little
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 23: bit north of here, but while he was walking to
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 23: that bus stop to meet his parents, he was unfortunately
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 23: gunned down right here by our serial killer.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: The term serial killer really started to gain traction and
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: in the news business we don't use that phrase lightly
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: because it has significant meaning a serial killer signals to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: us that someone is methodically routinely strategically taking aim at
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: victims with no mercy and no care for what impact
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: it has on the community music.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: As the death count rose to three innocent victims, Tampa
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: police were forced to confirm a serial killer was active
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: in Seminole Heights.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 11: From my training from the FBI, I knew that they
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: had changed the definition of serial murder from being three
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 11: killings with a cooling off period down to two. And
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 11: so I really wanted to jump on it after the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: second murder.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 9: I had never had any experience in a serial killer case.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 23: In fact, When we talked about it, I don't believe
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 23: anybody at the agency was here and working for the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 23: Tampa Police Department the last time Tampa experienced a serial killer.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: The thing that stood out to us about this case
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: was it happened just before eight o'clock at night. This
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: killer was getting more bold. This is a time of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: night when lots of people could potentially have been out.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: Someone could have seen the killer. So that struck us
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: as significant. Maybe this killer is getting more aggressive, losing
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: that sense of fear, now starting to hunt victims. That
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: was scary.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 9: After the third killing, we had again this lack of video.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: We knew we had to figure out a way to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: capture video of Almost every angle in a 20 block
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: by 10 block box.
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  Speaker 23: We reached out to the FBI, the ATF, Alcohol, Tobacco
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 23: and Firearms, who has a tremendous amount of resources in
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 23: helping identify ballistic evidence and trying to get DNA off
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 23: of casings.
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  Speaker 9: Dr. Brianna Fox, she came.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 23: From the FBI's Quantico division, so she was a good resource.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 23: She was working at the University of South Florida and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 23: specializes in criminal behavior and certain aspects of criminology.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 11: Random murders are literally the hardest to solve or prevent.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 11: One piece of evidence that was very telling was that
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 11: the killer would shoot his victims almost exclusively in the back.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 11: which really suggests a level of insecurity with this offender.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 11: And he just wanted it done and didn't even want
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 11: to face them as he did it. Another key feature
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 11: was the fact that he was targeting both African-American and
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 11: white victims, both male and female, young and old. And
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 11: typically when we're looking at victimology, a lot of, offenders
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 11: typically kill people that are the same race and demographics
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 11: as them. Based upon these demographics, it seemed like this
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 11: was likely a minority male who was younger in age
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 11: and who probably had a very little criminal background and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 11: probably was never arrested for anything serious like murder or
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 11: assault in the past. Until police caught him He was
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 11: going to keep killing.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: People were afraid to leave their homes. They were afraid
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: to let their kids walk to the school bus. I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: remember at the time, the mayor of Tampa said in
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: a press conference, bring his head to me. And I've
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: never heard a mayor of Tampa say anything like that.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: But that signaled just how significant the terror was in
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: this community. The cops had had enough. The mayor had
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: had enough. They wanted this person off the streets.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 9: There is growing concern.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: It's hard to find anyone around here who has not
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: heard about these three murders.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 14: People out here are scared. They want to know if
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 14: a murderer is lurking among them.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 13: The third victim in this case was our youngest victim,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 13: Anthony Nyboa, who was a 20-year-old. After that shooting, shell
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 13: casings from that scene were compared to the first two murders,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 13: and we knew we had a series of three murders
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 13: committed by the same killer.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: With Halloween approaching, there was a lot of fear. How
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: do you let your kids trick-or-treat in a community where
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: there is a serial killer on the loose? So the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: police flooded that neighborhood on October 31st.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 9: Halloween was probably the most stressful day in this investigation
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 9: that an act of murder hadn't taken place. You're going
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: to have all of these potential victims walking up and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 9: down every single roadway where he has murdered people. That night,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: every rank of that task force were out walking with
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 9: kids we'd never met before. making sure they got safely
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 9: from door to door as they trick-or-treated. This community made
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 9: so clear that we weren't going to live in fear
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 9: because of the actions of this one individual.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Tampa 9-1-1, what's the address for your emergency?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: It is an emotional day in Tampa Bay.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 9: Four murders in less than five weeks.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: Is there a serial killer in Seminole Heights?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 19: It is an emotional day in Tampa Bay. Four murders
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 19: in less than five weeks. Is there a serial killer
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 19: in Seminole Heights?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 11: While there was some question up until even the third murder,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 11: whether these were linked by the fourth murder in Seminole Heights,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 11: police instantly knew this was a serial killer and it
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 11: was linked to those other three murders that occurred.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 9: In 2017, this was a bus stop.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 23: And according to the video surveillance that we achieved in
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 23: this homicide, it appeared that the serial killer emerged from
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 23: behind the bus stop, chased our victim down in the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 23: middle of the street, and gunned him down. So when
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 23: we got the call about the fourth victim to getting shot,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 23: police officers were here within minutes. He was found laying
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 23: in the middle of the street with several gunshot wounds. Again,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 23: very little evidence other than the bullets that were used.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 11: It typically would have been already starting to bustle even
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 11: as early as 6 a.m.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 12: And so when Mr.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 11: Ronnie Felton was walking across the street, going to that
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 11: soup kitchen, as he always did, that was a very
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 11: busy road he was crossing. I would expect there would
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 11: have been some traffic. This did show a level of brazenness,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 11: almost confidence, in the ability to just keep committing murder
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 11: and getting away with it.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 12: He almost wanted to get caught.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 23: That took a toll on us because we were expecting
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 23: to catch him before he killed again. And unfortunately, he
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 23: killed Ronald Felton using the same exact gun he used
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 23: to kill the first three.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: It completely reignited everyone's fear, terror, and again, that sense
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: of paralysis. We can't leave our homes. We're not safe.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: What is happening to Seminole Heights? It was devastating.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 9: We all felt a constant dread of what are we missing?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 9: You start to think maybe you're just not asking the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 9: right questions. Maybe it's just one thing we're not thinking
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 9: of that would solve this entire thing for us. We've
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 9: all been at work every single day for over a month.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 9: Some days we just didn't even go home. You can't
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 9: even convince yourself, we'll just check that tip tomorrow because
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: you think to yourself, well, what if the tip that
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 9: I'm going to stop on tonight, what if the next
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 9: one is the tip that leads us to this killer?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: At that point, the reward had ballooned to $ 110, 000. There
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: was major money on the line. And investigators were counting
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: on the fact that somebody out there knew who this
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: person was and would turn them in, if for nothing else,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: for the cash.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 9: That day started like pretty much every other day. Myself
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 9: and Captain Delgado were trying to decide what we wanted
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 9: to concentrate the rest of our day on. A sergeant
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 9: who was working out on the street called me. He said, hey,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 9: there's this interesting thing that's just happened in the McDonald's
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: in Ybor City. The initial story that we're told is
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 9: that a homeless man has come into the McDonald's and
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 9: has given a gun to the manager and said that
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 9: he's done something really bad and he needs to go
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 9: to a local bank and get some money and get
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 9: out of Tampa. So I said, you know, what kind
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 9: of gun is it that she has? It's a Glock
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 9: 40 caliber. We knew that we were looking for a
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 9: Glock 40 caliber, but in 51 days, we have collected
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 9: hundreds of Glocks So I said, you know, what kind
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 9: of bullets are in the gun? And he says, they're
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 9: Sig Sauer silver bullets. And that is when I looked
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 9: over at Captain Delgado. I said, you know, hey, we've
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 9: got something. As we pulled into the parking lot of
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 9: the McDonald's, where the gun was supposed to be, we
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 9: got a call back from Sergeant Feltz. And he said, hey,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 9: I've got to tell you real quick, part of the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 9: original story was wrong. So what do you mean? And
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 9: he goes, well, he wasn't a homeless guy that came
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 9: in the McDonald's. He's a kid that works at the McDonald's.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 9: And he left in a red Mustang to go get
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 9: money to get out of town. As we were hearing
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 9: this on the phone, I looked up. And a red
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 9: Mustang had just parked about a row in. And this
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 9: young man in a McDonald's uniform got out and looked
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 9: right through the front window of our car at us.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 9: And I said, Butch, that's going to be him right there.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 23: We made a decision to stop him right there before
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 23: he could get to where we knew the gun was at.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 23: And take him into custody before he entered the McDonald's.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 9: When Captain Delgado and I first observed the suspect in
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 9: the red Mustang, exiting his vehicle in the parking spot
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 9: right behind me, he also saw us and began to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 9: move quickly towards the door of the McDonald's. At which point,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 9: we whipped around past the drive-through lane and encountered him
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 9: about 10 feet before he could get to the door.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 9: When I detained the suspect, he was compliant, and as
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 9: I moved in to handcuff him, he turned his head
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 9: and simply said, I'm sorry.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Howell, right?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 7: Howell.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 26: So what happened today is somebody brought to our attention
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 26: that you may have carried a handgun into the doll's restaurant,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 26: which brought, obviously, the presence you see before you because
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 26: we're dealing with a firearm. Can't be too careful with that.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 26: And so far, everything has gone along smooth.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 14: Okay.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 16: Okay? I hear you.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 27: The only thing was, I'm just trying to... I'm just
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 27: trying to get out of here so I can go
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 27: back to school.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 14: Okay.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: That's it. I mean, if you guys, I mean.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 20: I'll stay in here.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 27: You guys can go to the airport, and I'll just
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 27: have my father come pick up the car. I'm just
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 27: trying to get my education. I just want to further
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 27: my career. I just want to do good in the world.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 26: And I understand that. And I don't want to impede
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 26: that process.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 20: Right, right.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 9: He didn't admit to actually doing the killings. As time
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: went on, we were able to go back through an
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 9: old tip that actually had referenced a red Mustang, which
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 9: he drove. The jacket with the reflective material from the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 9: first homicide was located in his car at the McDonald's
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: as well. There was plenty of reasons to know it
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 9: was him, but in the beginning, it was the gun
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 9: and his admission of doing something very bad.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 24: My name is Susie Lopez, and I am the state
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 24: attorney in Hillsborough County, Florida. In the fall of 2017,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 24: four innocent lives were cut short. First, Ben Mitchell, and
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 24: then a couple of days later, Monica Hoffo. After that,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 24: Anthony Nyboa and Ronald Felton. The only things that they
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 24: had in common were the fact that they were alone
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 24: and they were walking at night.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 13: The first real break in this case was the ultimate
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 13: one that led to the arrest. The state attorney's office
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 13: received a call from the Tampa Police Department that they
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 13: had a person they believed could potentially be the killer
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 13: in these cases because of a firearm that had been
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 13: recovered that had been in his possession.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 12: I remember exactly where I was.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 11: I was making a late lunch and all of a sudden,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 11: out of nowhere, I heard the church bells ringing. And
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 11: they wouldn't stop. They just kept going on and on
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 11: and ringing and ringing. And I ran into my living
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 11: room and turned on the TV. And the first station
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 11: I had on, they were announcing the arrest of Trey Donaldson.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: As Tampa's Homicide Division began interviewing Donaldson, their suspect's motive
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: for the murders remained unclear.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 9: His nickname was Trey.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 23: Until that day, we had no idea who Hal Donaldson
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 23: III was. He didn't have a criminal past here in Tampa.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 23: He didn't have any serious criminal history at all.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 11: One of the first things I thought was, did this
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 11: person fit what I expected based off of research and
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 11: years of experience? Or is this a completely new, different
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 11: type of serial killer typology that we really didn't have
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 11: accounted for? You know, it just didn't make any sense
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 11: to us. This was what seemed like a nice boy
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 11: from a good family who went to St. John's University,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 11: a great school. He had this great trajectory in life.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 11: And to go from there to serial killer, this isn't
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 11: like your typical case where people find out uh the
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 11: murderer's name and and their history and think oh my
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 11: gosh i could totally see it or you know he's
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 11: the scary guy and i always got creeps around him
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 11: it was not like that with trey.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 25: Donaldson It is November 28th, 2017. It's 4.30 p.m. We're
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 25: here at the police headquarters serving State University.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 9: Hal Donaldson. Hal was having problems finding employment and had
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 9: come to work at the McDonald's there in Ybor City.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 25: Are you aware of the murder rate recently increasing in Tampa?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 20: I've heard people talking about people at my job. Yeah,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 20: tell me what you've heard. What are they talking about?
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 9: They're saying that, you know, people are dying. Something about
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 9: a serial killer. He admitted to purchasing this gun before
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 9: the first homicides, admitted that this gun had not been
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: out of his possession. He never admitted to killing anyone.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 9: He didn't admit to being at the locations of When
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 9: the four victims were killed?
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: The times these people were killed, you were up in
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: that area.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 20: But you haven't told me as to why. Can you
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 20: explain why? No, I just want to see my family
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 20: right now.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 16: All right.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 18: All right.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: His parents were there at the scene.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 23: They actually showed up when we were arresting him, and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 23: we had a chance to briefly talk to them about
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 23: what was going on.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 11: Trey Donaldson came from a fantastic family in Seminole Heights.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 11: He was admitted into a private school. His parents helped
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 11: pay for it. He started doing poorly in school. He
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 11: got cut from, as a walk-on from the basketball team
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 11: at St.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 12: John's, which was his dream. He ultimately dropped out of college.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 11: So here's this young man that come from this family
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 11: that just made it completely on their own talent and determination.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 11: And then there's a son who seems to have failed.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 11: And I think that generated a lot of the angst
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 11: and the anger towards society that came out in these murders.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: My understanding at the beginning was he didn't say a lot.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: And his parents immediately became sort of the mouthpiece for
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: their son and protecting him and understanding what was happening.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 9: Look at the camera. Let me look at your eyes.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: It's good to see you, man.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 20: Good to see you.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 9: Good to see y'all. Yeah, you look good.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: You look good.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 20: You look good.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 27: I feel like, I don't feel like it, trust me.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 9: I know you don't.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: I know you don't.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 9: It's just.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 9: I'm in pain every day. I know y'all. But yeah,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 9: it's just another day.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 23: You got to continue to pray and ask God to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 23: keep your spirit up.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 16: Because that's what we're doing.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 9: God has never let us down. Never let this family down.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 9: And you know that. Yeah, I got the Bible. I
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 9: read up on it a little bit.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 27: Just, you know, doing just, just literally just trying to
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 27: get through every day.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 14: I know.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 16: We're going to win this.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: God's going to see us through this and we'll win this.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 12: They were trying to be good parents.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 11: They were also trying to be cooperative with police until
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 11: it seemed like maybe their son was going to be
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 11: charged and receive the death penalty. And these parents just
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 11: could not imagine providing evidence that was going to help
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 11: sign the death warrant for their son. So they would
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 11: rather have been charged with contempt for not helping police,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 11: which they were.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 9: The ballistics on the firearm came back later that night,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 9: which was an incredibly nervous wait for us, as you
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 9: can imagine, because you think you have the right guy.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 9: But you need the ballistics to tell you for sure.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: We know it's you.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 20: Trey, we've got a picture of your face in this video.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 14: Trey.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 9: Do you see it?
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 26: For everybody that is listening, more importantly, the four families,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 26: please tell us why.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 20: I just don't know anything else to say.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 27: I just want to, I guess, talk to my attorney
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 27: and talk to who I need.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 16: To talk to.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 14: All right?
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  Speaker 11: All right.
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  Speaker 3: I hope, man, listen, I hope you get an answer
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 20: All right?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 25: Because it's the only questions they're going to have.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: This is human life.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 12: This is tragedy.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 20: This is real tragedy.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 11: It's 8.38 p.m.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 20: I'm stopping.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 9: After the ballistics indicated this was the gun used in
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 9: all four homicides, he was charged with four counts of murder,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 9: and that was later upgraded to first-degree premeditated murder.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: As the prosecution's case against Donaldson reached its conclusion, the
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: state of Florida confirmed they would be seeking the death penalty.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 24: I got involved as the state attorney when in mid-April
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 24: of 2023, the defendant's attorney approached me and asked if
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 24: we would consider sentencing the defendant to four consecutive life
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 24: sentences in avoidance of the death penalty.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: Prosecutors had a very strong case here They had the
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: shell casings. They had the surveillance video of Howell Donaldson III.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: They had the gun used in all four murders. They
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: had the cell phone data that put him in the
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: crime scene areas for all four killings. They had a
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: tight case. They didn't have to offer any kind of
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: deal to Howell Donaldson.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 24: We spoke to each family member And we asked them
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 24: how they felt about the defendant entering pleas to four
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 24: consecutive life sentences instead of getting the death penalty. The
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 24: death penalty is not a guarantee because that's a decision
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 24: that's made by a jury. And so these families wanted finality.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 23: When Donaldson pled guilty, for me personally, I was a
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 23: little conflicted with that. But the last thing we want
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 23: is for these families to have to relive what's happened
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 23: to their loved ones.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Six long years after Donaldson took the lives of four
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: innocent victims, judgment day arrived and his sentence was delivered.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: During the sentencing hearing, Mr.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 13: Donaldson sitting at this table over here did not appear
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 13: to show any remorse other than entering a guilty plea
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 13: and admitting his guilt.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 6: They were very brave. They were also very tired.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 24: They had been living through this for six years. Not
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 24: only had they lost their loved ones, but they lived
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 24: through the judicial process, which can often take a very
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 24: long time. There was a pandemic, and this case took
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 24: a very long time to bring closure for them.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: And so they were very brave.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 24: They were very patient and ultimately very relieved that this
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 24: killer will never have the opportunity to harm another person again.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 11: For Trey Donaldson to not have the worst penalty there is,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 11: I think, was difficult for some family members to understand.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 12: But the idea of.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 11: Waiving a trial, just seeking closure and finality, I think,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 11: ultimately was the right thing and what gave a lot
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 11: of the family members some sense of peace.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 23: I hope there's a day that myself or Captain Stout
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 23: or somebody can sit down in front of him and
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 23: do an interview with him and we can get down
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 23: to the truth as to exactly why he did what
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 23: he did to these four innocent people.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: I think Seminole Heights is a more tight-knit, resilient community
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: than it has ever been. These people's names become part
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: of your conversation. People I've never met personally, you know,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: Benjamin Mitchell, Monica Hoffa, Ronald Felton, and Anthony Naiboa. These
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: four names that are forever etched in the history of
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 6: the city of Tampa in the community of Seminole Heights.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: These are people we will always remember.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 23: It has an impact in your personal life. It does
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 23: consume you. It's something you'll never forget. He was a
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 23: monster that we were able to take off the street. Unfortunately,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 23: he took four lives before we caught him. Thankfully, we
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 23: caught him before he killed himself.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 9: More.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: When a murder is discovered.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 16: Frank Carlson was my older brother. He was my best friend.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 16: He was showing me the way, and he was taken
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 16: from us.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: Lives are torn apart forever.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 18: Grief hangs around my neck like a stone. The brutality
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 18: of the murder that visited my family has profoundly changed us,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 18: and we are not the same persons we once were.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: It's up to the police.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 14: If anybody thinks you're getting used to homicides, you never
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 14: get used to homicides.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: To track down the killer.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 15: This was a very demented man that caused this terrible, terrible,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 15: crazy act to these two people who were sweet and innocent,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 15: adorable young couple.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: And bring them to justice.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 19: Someone who engages in something of such depravity is unlikely
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 19: to not escalate.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: Meet the murder detectives.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 14: When you got an assignment, that was our job to
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 14: bring the person into custody if any way possible.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: Who revealed how they caught the killer.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 15: In my career, this will always be the single most
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 15: violent crime against a family. It's everybody's worst nightmare. Good
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 15: people have horrible things happen to them. And we as
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 15: a society, we always make excuses. We always think about statistics,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 15: not ever thinking a statistic is a real person. Annette Carlson,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 15: Frank Carlson were real people. They were good people. They
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 15: never deserved what happened to them on April the 19th. 1974.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: At 3.15 a.m., a 911 call was made from a
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: residential district in northern San Francisco.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 15: I was home with my wife. I was in bed.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 20: I was asleep.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 15: Operations center called and said there's been a murder. We've
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 15: already spoke to your partner, Jack Cleary. Jack says he'll
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 15: be by to pick you up in a few minutes.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 14: We got in our car. and we rolled over to
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 14: the scene in the Potrera District in San Francisco. We
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 14: got over there, and numerous police cars and an ambulance
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 14: and so forth was there when we arrived.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 15: It was total chaos. We had the San Francisco Fire
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 15: Department on the scene.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 14: Fire was out, and they were throwing a lot of
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 14: the debris out in the street and piling it up.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 14: Right away, the radio car that was in charge there
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 14: briefed us of what they'd seen. They took us through
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 14: each room. There's several rooms in the house. It's a
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 14: two-story Victorian home in a nice area of San Francisco.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 15: The initial information we had was someone came into their home,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 15: killed Frank Carlson, and then assaulted his wife in the
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 15: upstairs bedroom. The information we had is that the paramedics
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 15: and the fire department took her off the roof and
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 15: removed her to San Francisco General Hospital Hospital.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: The victims were 25-year-old Frank Carlson and his 24-year-old wife, Annette.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 16: My brother met Annette in 1965. He was an aspiring
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 16: journalist and was working different interviews. At one point with
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 16: Rolling Stone magazine, he was employed at Safeway stores. He
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 16: was an assistant manager at the Safeway store in San Mateo.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 16: But that was kind of a means to an end,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 16: as he really did want to be a journalist. Frank
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 16: and Annette got married in June of 1971. And they
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 16: bought the home in 1973 in Potrero Hill. Back in
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 16: the 70s, it was an up-and-coming area in the sense
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 16: that there was a lot of homes that needed attention,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 16: needed fixing up. And Frank and Annette found this home
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 16: and fell in love with it. and were doing a
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 16: lot of work to make it their own and make
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 16: it very special. April 19, 1974, I'll never forget that day.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 16: I was 16 years old. I had a clock radio
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 16: next to my bed, and it would go off usually
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 16: around 6.30 as I would get ready to go to school.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 16: And I heard my mother scream from my parents' bedroom.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 16: My Father had already gone to work, so he'd left
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 16: the house. And it turned out that my mom was
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 16: taking a shower, getting ready for her day, going to
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 16: her job. And she heard on the local news radio
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 16: station about this horrible crime. So I immediately went into
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 16: the bedroom and found her crouched next to the telephone.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 16: She was calling the police to try to find out
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 16: what happened.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 19: The notion that Frank's family found out about his death
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 19: on the radio is shocking today. You can imagine how
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 19: blindsided his family must have felt with this information. I'm
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 19: assuming this is something that the family still live with today,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 19: that kind of trauma, that kind of realization where you're
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 19: almost looking at yourself in the third person standing outside.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 19: I think that would have hugely impacted them and their
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 19: ability to process this horrific event.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: Detectives Frank Falzon and Jack Cleary were trying to unravel
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: the gruesome crime scene.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 15: When I saw Frank Carlson, all I could see was
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 15: a shattered head. His face was buried down in the carpet.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 15: And there was a burn spot in the carpet. And
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 15: there was coins strewn all over. There was a potted
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 15: plant that was turned upside down. There was a chopping
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 15: block that had the corner knocked off of it. I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 15: saw a hammer, and the claw had been knocked off
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 15: the hammer. All these instruments were used on Frank Carlson,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 15: who was tied to a chair with an electrical cord.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 19: I think given the state of Frank Carlson's body, the
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 19: police weren't looking for sort of a run-of-the-mill argument that
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 19: went wrong, someone who was just generally aggressive.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: This was someone.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 19: who had clear psychopathy. This was someone who took joy
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 19: and pleasure in inflicting the worst possible kind of pain.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 19: This was almost artfully done in terms of its depravity.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: The detectives needed to speak to Frank's wife, Annette. She
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: wasn't just a victim. She was also a crucial witness.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 15: I went over to San Francisco General Hospital. I'll never
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 15: forget when I arrived there, I'm looking for help And
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 15: then the doctor comes out. You're not going to believe
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 15: your eyes when you see Annette Carlson. He says she's
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 15: probably not going to live, but she wants to talk
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 15: to the police. I'd like to have you scrub up.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 15: We'll put you in gloves, put a mask on you,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 15: a cap and gown. And he says, I'm bringing you
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 15: into the operating room with me. Stuff like this doesn't happen.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 15: This was surreal. I was led into the operating room,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 15: and all I could see was these pieces of flesh
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 15: pulled out. I'd say at least 12 wounds, and she
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 15: had multiple fractures on her body. And all she kept
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 15: saying is, I want to help you. I want to
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 15: help you.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 14: When Frank was at the hospital, I went to the
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 14: scene to look at anything. There was a lot of
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 14: blood around. Near the cabinet that held the paint and
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 14: his tools to work around the house was It was
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 14: a footprint in blood and looked like an army type
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 14: boot with big open cleats in the bottom of the shoe.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 14: And it was a good, good heel print, a very
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 14: good heel print and nice and clear. So the lab
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 14: came out and photographed it and protected that scene.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: With the investigation underway, Frank's family were beginning to learn
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: the details of what had happened.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 16: Our house was kind of a state of confusion. Everyone
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 16: was just shocked beyond words because it was such an atrocious,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 16: horrible crime.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 9: It's the kind of.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 16: Thing that you think only happens to other people or
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 16: it happens in a movie or in a book. It
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 16: doesn't happen in real life. And everyone who was there
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 16: had the same sort of response. You can't even believe it.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 15: Early that morning, I met with Betty Carlson, Frank's mother,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 15: one dynamic woman. She was shocked that she heard about
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 15: her son's death on a news broadcast.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 16: They were very apologetic about the fact that they had
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 16: not been able to reach us with the news. The
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 16: crime happened over the course of the night. So when
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 16: the police were made aware... And the calls went out.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 16: You've got people listening to the radio, press correspondents, radio stations.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 16: So they immediately went to the scene of the crime
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 16: and reported from it.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 15: I felt disheartened. I can only imagine the love of
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 15: a mother. Betty Carlson had a tremendous love for her son, Frank.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 15: I can only imagine how that broke her heart.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 18: It is impossible to tell you how many times a
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 18: day he is in our thoughts and always in our prayers.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 18: We look back on the events of April 19th, 1974
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 18: with horror and despair. I will never be over it.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: Frank and Jack were starting to build up a fuller
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: picture of the events of the early hours of the
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: morning on the 19th of April.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 15: What happened was an individual decided He wanted to rape,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 15: he wanted to rob, and he wanted to murder. And
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 15: he entered the home of the Carlsons.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: From the hospital, Annette had told them everything she could.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 14: She gave it to us in detail, A to Z.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 14: She did not miss anything. She said how he was
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 14: tied up, where he was tied up. And the lock
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 14: in the door where he tried to, he locked it,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 14: took the key, turned the stereo up.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 15: So once Frank is tied to the chair, the sick
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 15: individual takes the hammer and starts to hit Frank over
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 15: the head. He just kept smashing Frank's head until Frank
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 15: fell over onto the floor, dead. And Annette was witnessing
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 15: all of this. The suspect then orders Annette upstairs and
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 15: he rapes her for three hours. All she wants to
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 15: do is live. This suspect laughs and he says, I
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 15: can't let you live. You know who I am. She says,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 15: I don't know you. I don't know you. She says
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 15: she faked like she was dead. He takes her wrist,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 15: slices her wrist. He then goes downstairs, gets paint thinner.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 15: pours it around her, pours it around her husband, sets
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 15: the house on fire, and walks out.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 19: I think what the attacker does to Frank serves two purposes.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 19: I think ultimately he wanted to incapacitate him so he
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 19: could sexually assault and horribly rape Annette. But I think
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 19: he also wanted to send the message to Annette that
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 19: this was going to be horrible. So he was setting
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 19: the scene for her. Sexual offenders oftentimes get off on
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 19: the pain and the fear that they inflict. So I
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 19: think it was this performative cat-and-mouse sort of game that
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 19: he was playing in order to heighten the fear that
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 19: Annette and Frank felt.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 15: This was probably one of the most shocking cases in
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 15: my 22-year career working homicide. It's everybody's worst nightmare that
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 15: a crazed individual... will enter your home and destroy everything
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 15: that you love and care for. The suspect was somebody
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 15: that we had to catch and we had to get
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 15: off the street very quickly.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: In 1974, in the Potrero Hill district of San Francisco,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: Frank Carlson had been brutally murdered and his wife Annette raped.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: and left for dead. The nature of the attack is
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: still shocking today. Evan Sanofsky is a crime reporter who
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: covered the story.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 28: When I learned the details of this attack, I was sickened.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 28: I like to study San Francisco history. I like to
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 28: get a sense when I report on crimes that happen nowadays,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 28: how that compares to cases from back in the day.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 28: And this one has to be one of the worst
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 28: that I've ever heard about. Annette Carlson agreed to do
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 28: an interview with me. Her identity remains anonymous, but she
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 28: still wanted to share her story. She was very.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: Much a traumatized woman.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 28: It was remarkable to see how this violence still resonated
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 28: inside of her 46 years later.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 19: I think it's important to note that this crime takes
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 19: place at a time that is chaotic in San Francisco.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 19: The 70s are notorious for kind of the lawlessness that's
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 19: going on. It's a city in transition. It's not as
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 19: if it necessarily directly caused what happened, but what it
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 19: did is it set a scene to make it easier
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 19: for it happening.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 28: The 1970s saw a lot of high-profile cases, particularly homicides
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 28: in San Francisco. It began with the Zodiac Killer in 1969.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 28: There were the zebra killings. There was the kidnapping of
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 28: Patty Hearst and the SLA. And above that, there was many,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 28: many killings that weren't high profile in the city. Serial
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 28: killers killing many people over and over again without ever
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 28: being caught. At the time, if you killed a stranger,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 28: it was very difficult for police to solve those cases.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 15: San Francisco was changing dramatically. And some of it was
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 15: for the good. A lot of it was not. And
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 15: the things I witnessed as a homicide cop was homicide
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 15: rate just escalated. We were handling 150 murders in a
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 15: small city every year.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: On the 19th of April 1974, in Potrero Hill, from
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: the moment Frank and Jack arrived at the crime scene,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: the clock was ticking.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 14: The first thing that runs through your mind, where am
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 14: I going to start? Because if you don't have that
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 14: suspect within 24 hours, you've got problems.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 15: The first thing we did, like we do on most
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 15: murder cases back in the 70s, you put it on
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 15: an all-points bulletin, everything about your case, everything that happened,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 15: and you put this out statewide. We knew we were
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 15: looking for a rapist, somebody that was also a burglar,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 15: somebody that was vicious and cruel. But we were looking
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 15: for a rapist.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: The detectives began to build up a profile of their suspect.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 14: Well, the first thing that came to both of our minds,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 14: the rape, we put together that it was the next convict,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 14: somebody that did time for that type of case.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 15: Right across the street was a halfway house. It's called Synanon,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 15: where prisoners that are recently released were housed. These people
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 15: heard our screams. They called the fire department, called the
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 15: police department. They got the paramedics there.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 14: That was where we thought, because there was 10 people
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 14: that was missing and didn't show up that night for
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 14: a bed call. And we thought, you know, geez, maybe
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 14: it's close by, this suspect. What we thought being that
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 14: there was 10 people missing, we started there.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 15: So Jack Cleary, my partner, myself, we were working and
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 15: interviewing these multiple people living in this home.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: Despite Annette's terrible injuries, she had been able to give
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: Frank some vital information.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 15: In her initial statement, Annette wanted me to know that
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 15: he kept saying, I want money, money, which is not
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 15: the way a San Franciscan would say the word money.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 15: So she felt he was from the South, that he
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 15: was not a local person that was born in San Francisco.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 15: At this time in San Francisco, we were dealing with
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 15: the kidnapping of Patty Hearst, And she thought he looked
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 15: like Sin Q, who was the head of the SLA
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 15: that had kidnapped Patty Hearst. So this is what we
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 15: were working off early on, a good-looking young black man.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 16: Annette is an amazing person. She had gone through an
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 16: experience that would destroy anyone. And it was her highest
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 16: priority to provide the information to the police. I can
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 16: only imagine the pain that she fought through to be
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 16: able to do that.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 19: So her need to kind of hold this man accountable,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 19: give as much as she could, would have maybe been
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 19: a way of taking back a little bit of control.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 19: She'd spent hours trying. with all of her control stripped away.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 19: She spent hours thinking she was going to die. What's
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 19: going on in her mind, I think, at that point
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 19: is how do I get something out of this, assert
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 19: some control, do something for Frank, do something to ensure
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 19: that this monster that did this is going to pay?
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: Even with Annette's eyewitness account of the crime, the investigation
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: was proving to be difficult, as Frank realised the residents
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: of the halfway house had been the ones to go
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: to her rescue.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 15: The people from Sydenham ended up being heroes and not suspects.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 15: The people from Synanon got the help that Annette needed
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 15: and probably saved her life.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 28: It's a lot easier for detectives to solve cases today
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 28: than it was in the 1970s. There's so much more
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 28: technology and so many more tools at their disposal. There's
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 28: video camera footage often. There's DNA technology. There's a fingerprint
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 28: database that they can go into and.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 16: Get matches on. None of that was available.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 14: Back in the 1970s.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 28: The only way to really solve crimes back then was
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 28: have an eyewitness or some kind of smoking gun.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 15: We were knocking on doors. We were bringing people in.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 15: We were taking on informants. We were trying to find
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 15: out who could do something. This deranged.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 14: We followed up on everything possible. Crimes that happened months back.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 14: Checked everybody out. Checked out what other police departments. Checked
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 14: out what any rapes and in the California Bay Area,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 14: see if they had any similar circumstances, and nothing even
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 14: came close. But then, I'll tell you, we got to
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 14: the point that Frank and I said, we're at the
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 14: end of this thing, because we were getting pressure. Our bosses,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 14: our captains, our chiefs, they wanted answers. We wanted answers.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 14: And our family wanted answers, and they were entitled to
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 14: an answer.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: As the police struggled with the investigation, Frank's family were
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: coming to terms with their loss.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 16: The day of the murder, I think the first stop
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 16: we made was my mom and my dad and I
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 16: drove to the hospital. Annette was in very, very bad condition.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 16: We felt much better once we knew that she was
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 16: going to be okay because we knew what was ahead.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 16: There would be her recuperation. There would be many events
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 16: that collectively we as a family would have to go through.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 16: And the fact that she lived, that she survived, it
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 16: meant so much to my mom, my dad, and to
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 16: me because there was a period of time where we
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 16: were concerned that she would not live.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: Frank's funeral took place on the Wednesday after the murder
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 4: in the church he and Annette had been married in.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 16: The church was full very quickly and they had to
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 16: accommodate the overflow crowds in the courtyard outside with speakers
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 16: so people could hear what was going on. There had
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 16: to have been 400 or 500 people at the funeral.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: Annette was unable to go to her husband's funeral as
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: her injuries were still too severe. But she continued to
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: help the investigation from her hospital bed.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 14: She gave a very good description of him, a very
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 14: good facial description. And we had a very good man
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 14: in San Francisco Police Department that was attached to the
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 14: homicide detail, and we asked him to go out and
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 14: talk to her, take his time with it, and see
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 14: if he could come up with a drawing.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 15: It was amazing for me to watch the artist working
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 15: with Annette, because Annette... would make changes after changes after
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 15: changes until she felt she had it right.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: As the attacker left Annette for dead in the burning house,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: he had also grabbed some jewelry from her dressing table.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 15: I'll never forget Annette's father looking at me, saying, I
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 15: want to help my daughter. I want to help you.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 15: How can I help you? And I spoke to him, nice,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 15: nice man. And I come to find out he was
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 15: this artist, mechanical engineer. It was his mother's jewelry that
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 15: was taken. He knew those pieces of jewelry as well
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 15: as Annette. So I asked him, would you mind drawing
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 15: the pieces that were stolen? After that, we came up
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 15: with an informational bulletin. This bulletin had the sketch of
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 15: Everything about the crime and on the backside was the
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 15: artist's rendition by Annette's father of all the stolen pieces
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 15: of jewellery. We disclosed the information on May 8th and
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 15: May 9th to both the Chronicle and Examiner newspapers in
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 15: San Francisco, asking for help.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 4: Finally, the detectives got their first credible lead.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 15: I received a phone call in the office. It was
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 15: a jeweler who identified himself, and he says, Inspector, I
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 15: cut out your article in today's paper, and I put
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 15: it by my workstation, and I think right now I'm
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 15: working on the ring that you're looking for. I said,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 15: I'll be right there.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 14: It was like the world opened up to you. Believe me,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 14: I'm here going day and night with nothing. Then all
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 14: of a sudden you hit a jackpot.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: In the search for Frank Coulson's killer, detectives Frank Falzon
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: and Jack Cleary had discovered a ring that was stolen
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: during the attack in a local jewellery shop.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 14: This gentleman came in and he wanted a ring changed.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 14: The owner of the store, he was most helpful. And
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 14: the ring was there and he showed it to us.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 14: And we said, now this become evidence.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 15: Annette was sitting up in bed, her arms in cast
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 15: and braces, her head all bandaged. And I showed her
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 15: the ring. Tears started coming down from her eyes. And
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 15: she said, Inspector, this is my grandmother's wedding ring. I
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 15: knew then this was the big break Jack and I
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 15: were waiting for.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 14: We got another break. The guy, when he left it there,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 14: he used his right name and address.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 15: All I remember is the adrenaline rush was huge. I'm thinking,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 15: this is the guy. This is the guy that killed Frank.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 15: This is the guy that raped Annette.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 14: I mean, you got the ring. It's the right ring.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 14: He uses his right name. That's like out of a movie.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 15: Most definitely he was a suspect. Immediately, the man with
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 15: that ring, he is an immediate suspect. How does he
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 15: get that ring? What's he doing with that ring? These
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 15: are all questions a homicide inspector wants to know. We
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 15: were able to find out that a man by the
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 15: name of Frank brought the ring in. So we went
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 15: looking for Frank. We found him. And you always hear
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 15: the story about the good cop, bad cop. Nobody was acting.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 15: I was the bad cop. I was very, very upset
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 15: with this man, that he could do something so horrible.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 15: Jack remained calm, and he was playing the good cop.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 14: Took him up to detail and told him this is
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 14: a very serious crime. Right now, all we got on
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 14: you is having possession of stolen property. So he says,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 14: I don't know it was stolen. What did you buy
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 14: it from? He said, I don't remember. So we took
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 14: him to the city prison, and we took him upstairs
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 14: and arrested him on receiving stolen property. So the next morning,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 14: after questioning him for quite a length of time, he
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 14: finally told us that he bought it from a guy
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 14: on the street down at the end of the block
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 14: from where the scene took place on Kansas Street.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 15: He provided us that the man worked for the post office,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 15: worked with his brother-in-law, and that he had this jewelry
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 15: and he needed money and he was going to sell
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 15: it cheap. We found out the man's name was Angelo Pavageau.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 15: He was the one that was selling the jewelry. He
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 15: is the man that Frank purchased it from. He's the
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 15: man that never showed up on April 19th for work.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 14: We got a copy of his driver's license, and we
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 14: had his picture from the post office. We found out
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 14: that he delivered a box truck. He used a box
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 14: truck to take a large amount of mail to the
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 14: San Francisco airport every day. So that gave us the
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 14: lead to him. And then Saturday morning, next morning, Frank
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 14: and I went to his residence.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 15: Angelo Pavagio died. came out of his house wearing his
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 15: mailman outfit, he lived one block away from the Carlson family.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 15: I remember being quite upset, and he immediately placed both
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 15: hands on top of our police car before Jack put
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 15: him in handcuffs I told Angelo I said I'm going
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 15: to give you a chance that you never gave the
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 15: Carlsons I'm going to let you run go ahead run
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 15: And he looked at me and his hands never came
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 15: off the car. Jack put the bracelets on him, put
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 15: him in handcuffs. We took him into custody.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 28: Angelo Pavago didn't fit the profile of someone who had
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 28: committed a crime like this. They were looking for somebody
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 28: maybe who had committed other violence in the past. They
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 28: were looking for somebody who fit this M.O. When it
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 28: turned out that it was the postal employee from down
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 28: the street, who didn't have a criminal record. He worked
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 28: for the U.S. Postal Service, so he couldn't have a
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 28: felony criminal record to get that job. It was surprising
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 28: to so many people.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 15: We later served a search warrant, and we found the
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 15: boots that he apparently was wearing the night he entered
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 15: the Carlson home.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 14: There was still blood on the boots. There were pleated heels,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 14: and it was inside the heels.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 15: We found the jewelry... additional pieces of jewelry that Annette's
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 15: father did the artist's renditions on. So our case was
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 15: only getting stronger and stronger. Pavageot was in complete denial.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 15: He would not admit to anything.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 19: So one of the things that we know about stranger
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 19: murders is that they usually kind of are done by
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 19: people who have an affinity towards violence. So we see
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 19: that in their past, in their relationships, perhaps in previous crimes.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 19: Usually we're speaking about a serious form of antisocial behavior,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 19: whether it's sociopathy or psychopathy. There's kind of a need
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 19: for subjugation, a pleasure out of taking control and hurting
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 19: and manipulating. Every part of the story up until the
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 19: point that he gets caught speaks to like a real
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 19: sense of narcissism. I think in his mind, he'd moved on.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 15: By that point.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: As soon as the suspect was in custody, the family
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 4: were notified.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 16: My mother had gotten a call from Frank Falzon. It
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 16: was in the afternoon, I was home from school, and
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 16: she cried after hearing that.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 18: I relived those few moments when Frank's life was pouring
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 18: out of him and Annette was in total immovable shock
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 18: and paralysis. How I wish I could have been there
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 18: to hold him in my arms, to comfort him and
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 18: to let him know how much.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 7: We love him.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 18: Knowing full well the end of the story. My outrage
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 18: against these unspeakable crimes remains an integral part of my life.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 18: If I've learned anything from this senseless tragedy, I've learned
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 18: how to live with ineffable sadness. What a waste of life.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 16: I remember Frank and Jack, not at our house. But
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 16: I remember meeting with them at the hospital and at
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 16: the police department. They were very nice and extremely considerate
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 16: to a very sad 16-year-old boy. And I will always,
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 16: always love them for that.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 4: For Frank, though, the job was far from over.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 15: I was sitting in the office thinking, what more could
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 15: we do? to make this a tighter case because Angelo
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 15: did not confess. When you're arrested, all the property that
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 15: you have on you, police officers log it, book it
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 15: into evidence, property clerk's office. So I signed all that out,
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 15: and I went through every piece meticulously looking for something,
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 15: not knowing what I might find. And what I found
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 15: was a little black address book with a bunch of
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 15: names and a bunch of phone numbers. I started calling
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 15: those phone numbers. The third or fourth number I called
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 15: was the woman known as Lucinda. And Lucinda said, I
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 15: knew you were going to find out about me. I've
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 15: been afraid to call. Please come and see me. I
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 15: have information I want to tell you.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 4: Lucinda revealed that she had encountered Angelo Pavagio on the
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 4: night of the murder.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 15: What we realized that happened was around 11 o'clock. He
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 15: was at Lucinda's house, and while he was there, he
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 15: told Lucinda he was going to rape her. She says,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 15: you're not going to rape me? He says, oh, yes,
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 15: I am. He took out a knife. The knife had
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 15: a broken tip. And so she reached in her drawer
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 15: and came out with a big butcher knife She says,
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 15: you want to rape me, I'll cut you to pieces.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 15: So he leaves there just around 11 o'clock. According to Annette,
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 15: minutes later, a man is climbing into her window with
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 15: a knife that has a broken tip. He had to
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 15: walk by Annette's house to get home. And that's when
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 15: he jumps up on the roof, climbs into the window.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 15: So having Lucinda... was a key part of the case
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 15: because it gives us a path and what he was after.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 15: He was after sex, he was after rape. In her
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 15: initial statement, Annette wanted me to know that he kept saying,
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 15: you know who I am. Well, in the end, he
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 15: was her mailman. He knew her, but she never paid
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 15: attention to him.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 4: The next stage of the investigation... was to see if
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 4: Annette could positively ID their number one suspect.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 28: Annette Carlson described having multiple broken bones, broken arms, broken fingers,
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 28: cuts on her head, cuts on her wrist. She was
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 28: brought in to the police station in that really injured
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 28: state and told me that she looked at the lineup
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 28: and knew exactly who her killer was before even hearing
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 28: him mention a word.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 15: Jack Cleary, I remember, ran the lineup. I sat in
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 15: the audience with Annette Carlson.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 14: I said, number one man, please step out. I got
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 14: one question to ask you. And the question was, repeat
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 14: after me, I want your money. So the man said,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 14: I want your money. Now, the number three man asked
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 14: him the same thing. I want you to repeat after me,
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 14: I want your money. And he said, I want your money.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 15: Only one of the six said, I want money. And
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 15: that was Angelo Pavagio.
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 4: Just over three weeks after the vicious murder of Frank
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  Speaker 4: Carlson and violent assault of his wife, Annette, detectives Jack
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  Speaker 4: Cleary and Frank Falzon had arrested and charged their prime suspect,
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  Speaker 4: Angelo Pavagio.
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  Speaker 15: The main points in a case, any case, is usually
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  Speaker 15: direct evidence, eyewitness testimony, circumstantial evidence, physical evidence. So this case,
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  Speaker 15: we had eyewitness testimony. We had the ring. We had Frank,
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  Speaker 15: the man that took the ring from Angelo and bought
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  Speaker 15: it from him. This was a very, very solid case.
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  Speaker 28: It was incredibly unnerving for Annette Carlson to learn that
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  Speaker 28: her husband's killer and her torturer rapist had lived just
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  Speaker 28: down the block from them and likely had watched them
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  Speaker 28: and seen them for a long time before this crime
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  Speaker 28: ever happened.
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  Speaker 4: In August 1974, the trial began.
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  Speaker 16: My parents did not attend the trial, but we did
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  Speaker 16: have people attending it. on their behalf, who paid attention
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  Speaker 16: and took notes. We also had the opportunity to hear
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  Speaker 16: from the witnesses. In this case, Annette was the main witness,
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  Speaker 16: how the process was playing out. And, of course, the
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  Speaker 16: court reporters, the newspaper reporters that were reporting on the
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  Speaker 16: activity basically on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 14: The defense attorney started out He says, Mrs. Carlson, the
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  Speaker 14: tragedy you went through, losing your husband, Frank Carlson, and
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  Speaker 14: then what you went through, Mrs. Carlson, that terrible tragedy,
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  Speaker 14: you suffered injuries. And she said, stop, sir. The person
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  Speaker 14: that caused all this is sitting next to you. That's
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  Speaker 14: heroin out of the courtroom. Absolutely suck the air out
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  Speaker 14: of the courtroom.
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  Speaker 15: She was soft-spoken. She was very kind. For somebody that
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  Speaker 15: went through what she did and what she witnessed, she
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 15: just had so much composure. She was the epitome of class.
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  Speaker 28: If Annette Carlson had died... Who knows if Angela Pabago
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  Speaker 28: would have ever been identified as her attacker and her
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  Speaker 28: husband's killer. We really don't know where the case would
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  Speaker 28: have gone. He could have gone on to kill many
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  Speaker 28: more people after that. I mean, people don't commit crimes
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  Speaker 28: like this and just stop.
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  Speaker 4: Despite the damning testimony, Pavago continued to plead his innocence.
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  Speaker 15: His defense was he didn't do it. That this mystery
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  Speaker 15: man running down the street, dropped a bag that had
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 15: the jewelry. The mystery man climbed in the window. The
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 15: mystery man killed Frank Carlson. The mystery man raped Annette
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  Speaker 15: for three hours. This is a woman that was face
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  Speaker 15: to face for three hours with this killer. Do you
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  Speaker 15: think Annette Carlson would ever forget what that man looked like?
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  Speaker 15: Of course not. And the jury knew that.
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  Speaker 19: I think him maintaining his innocence speaks to his psychopathy.
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  Speaker 19: So he thinks he can get away with this. I
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  Speaker 19: don't think there's any remorse there. So this very much
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  Speaker 19: fits in with who this person probably is. He's someone
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  Speaker 19: who has a hyperinflated sense of his control over a situation,
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  Speaker 19: of his intelligence. Probably, you know, not particularly intelligent. It
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  Speaker 19: was very clear to anyone sort of, you know, who
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  Speaker 19: had the evidence that he did do this.
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  Speaker 15: The jury found Angelo Pavageau guilty of murder in the
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  Speaker 15: first degree. They found him guilty of seven additional felonies.
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  Speaker 15: There was a special trial held for the death penalty.
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  Speaker 15: That same jury returned a verdict of guilty, special circumstances.
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  Speaker 15: He was sentenced to death.
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  Speaker 16: When the verdict was announced, I think my parents breathed
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 16: a certain sigh of relief because, like I did, we
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  Speaker 16: thought that would kind of remove us from the process
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  Speaker 16: and we would be able to continue healing and we
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 16: wouldn't have to deal with the problem anymore. And that's
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 16: not what happened.
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  Speaker 28: The Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty was unconstitutional
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 28: in the United States in 1976. So every case that
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 28: was pending, everybody who was on death row was taken
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  Speaker 28: off death row and given the next biggest sentence that
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 28: was available at the time, which was life with parole.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 28: We now have what's called LWOP or life without parole.
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  Speaker 28: That wasn't an option back then.
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  Speaker 16: The first parole hearing happened in 1980. So six years
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 16: after the crime was committed.
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  Speaker 15: The only hope and pray for somebody like Annette, that
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  Speaker 15: she could put it behind them. But with him coming
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  Speaker 15: up for parole, she never gets a chance to rest.
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  Speaker 15: And the family keeps fighting it. People that remember this
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 15: case keep fighting it. Jack Cleary and I keep fighting it.
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  Speaker 28: I interviewed Annette Carlson. It had been more than 40
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  Speaker 28: years since she was victimized. But the way I spoke
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  Speaker 28: to her and her reaction to the case, it seemed
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  Speaker 28: like it may have happened a couple weeks ago.
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  Speaker 16: She was visibly shaken.
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  Speaker 28: She was living in perpetual horror.
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  Speaker 19: Something as horrific as this blindsides us. It's as if
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 19: the brain pauses to try and make sense of it.
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  Speaker 19: The part of the brain that deals with emotions is
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 19: also the part of the brain that we kind of
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 19: consolidate memories with as well. So in many ways... Every
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 19: time you remember that, you feel this pain. It's almost
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 19: a whole body experience. And it's as if your life
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  Speaker 19: becomes a thing before the trauma and after the trauma.
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  Speaker 19: Your life is never the same.
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  Speaker 18: My name is Elizabeth Carlson, mother of the murdered victim,
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  Speaker 18: Frank Carlson, and mother-in-law of Annette, tortured victim, Please, I
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  Speaker 18: plead with you to see the truth regarding the prisoner
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  Speaker 18: that sits before you. Only in prison can he conform.
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  Speaker 18: Only in prison will society be safe. The cries of
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  Speaker 18: my heart stay quiet within me, giving me a whole
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 18: new dimension of grief. Most of us avoid looking at
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 18: the unbearable, but we do this on an all too
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  Speaker 18: frequent basis. Murder is evil and must not be tolerated
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  Speaker 18: in a society built on the law. It's the worst
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  Speaker 18: of all crimes. We must not be stopped from punishing
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 18: the guilty.
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  Speaker 14: He'll be up for parole again in a couple years.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 14: He'll be up again. He'll never quit to the day
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  Speaker 14: he dies. He belongs in there the rest of his life.
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  Speaker 14: Look what he caused. This is how many years ago now?
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  Speaker 14: People are still talking about it.
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  Speaker 15: This case rocked Jack and I because this was two
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  Speaker 15: people that didn't deserve it. Not that anybody deserves the
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 15: brutal killing, but definitely not Frank or Annette Carlson. They
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 15: did not deserve what happened to them. So it touched
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  Speaker 15: Jack's life and it touched my life. And it's remained
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  Speaker 15: that way all these years. I have a memory of
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 15: this case that will stay with me until the day
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  Speaker 15: I die.
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  Speaker 16: What do I think my brother would have done if
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 16: he was still alive? Well, he would have been a
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  Speaker 16: successful journalist. I have no doubt about that. He and
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  Speaker 16: Annette would have had children. He would have done good things.
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  Speaker 16: I mean, I think their outlook on life was all
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 16: about helping other people. It's just how they were wired.
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  Speaker 16: And it's a tragedy that he is no longer on
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  Speaker 16: this earth.