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- 0:00Speaker 1: The reason why there's twenty different podcasts is simple. In radio,
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- 0:32Speaker 1: You're in progress, you know.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I mean the oneters are so cold and then the
- 0:36Speaker 2: summers are so holl I mean, it's it really is extremes.
- 0:39Speaker 2: There isn't it? Well?
- 0:40Speaker 1: You know, and talk about extremes. This guy right here
- 0:43Speaker 1: and Charlotte, he goes to extremes. One day it's rainy.
- 0:46Speaker 1: One day, it's for this day, it's the tornadoes coming through.
- 0:51Speaker 1: You forgot the biggest one though. One day you're walking
- 0:53Speaker 1: around backstage at a concert and there's Ringo star who says,
- 0:57Speaker 1: come over and play some ping pong with me, And
- 1:00Speaker 1: I did it. He's always he's always been a playful guy.
- 1:06Speaker 2: How was the ping pong skills? Though? This is what
- 1:08Speaker 2: I want he's.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Pretty good because he was up against Joe Walsh and
- 1:11Speaker 1: this is back on their All Star tour and and
- 1:13Speaker 1: Joe Walsh and he were playing ping pong, and it
- 1:15Speaker 1: was just so fascinating to see these these magical, musical
- 1:19Speaker 1: wonders of life sit there and play a game that
- 1:22Speaker 1: because they obviously do it, they did it so well.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well this is it. Yeah, they were obviously
- 1:28Speaker 2: getting about sneaky practice. At home.
- 1:30Speaker 1: I would say, Oh my god, I'm so grateful that
- 1:35Speaker 1: you wrote this book. And the reason why is because
- 1:38Speaker 1: I was not part of the Beatles generation. I was
- 1:41Speaker 1: the solo Beatles. That meant that Ringo star was huge
- 1:44Speaker 1: in my life during my teen years. And and so
- 1:47Speaker 1: when I read these stories that Ringo sold more songs
- 1:50Speaker 1: and Ringo and I'm going, of course he did, because
- 1:52Speaker 1: we filtered as fans.
- 1:55Speaker 2: That's interesting actually, because I mean, he was the most
- 1:59Speaker 2: popular beat So in America right, which a lot of
- 2:02Speaker 2: people are surprised by. But I think that that had
- 2:05Speaker 2: something to do with his film appearances, where he was
- 2:08Speaker 2: always the cuddly one. And I think it also had
- 2:11Speaker 2: something to do with the fact that at the GfK
- 2:14Speaker 2: Press conference, when they first came over in sixty four.
- 2:18Speaker 2: He may have had a whiskey or two on the
- 2:19Speaker 2: plane because he's doing a lot of chatting. I mean,
- 2:22Speaker 2: he doesn't look intimidated by the American press hoards there.
- 2:25Speaker 2: But yeah, when the band splits up, I mean, I'm
- 2:28Speaker 2: sure everybody would have thought it would have been Paul
- 2:30Speaker 2: or John or George who'd have had this sort of
- 2:33Speaker 2: pop chart success. But at first there was actually Ringo.
- 2:37Speaker 2: He was the one that was having the top tens
- 2:39Speaker 2: with it Don't Come Easy and Photograph and those songs.
- 2:43Speaker 1: And to this day, I still can't get enough of
- 2:45Speaker 1: him because I'll call out to Alexa to have her
- 2:47Speaker 1: play all of my Ringo star songs, and it puts
- 2:50Speaker 1: me in a moment where I truly feel peace and love,
- 2:53Speaker 1: peace and love, And I don't know if that's the
- 2:55Speaker 1: reason why I do it, because I can just always
- 2:57Speaker 1: hear Ringo saying that peace and love.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean I did ask him about the
- 3:01Speaker 2: peace and love thing, because I mean, it can be
- 3:03Speaker 2: so easily dismissed. There's a sort of snappy gimmick or
- 3:06Speaker 2: a hippie hangover or any of that stuff. But actually
- 3:10Speaker 2: Ringo is quite a spiritual dude, you know. I mean
- 3:12Speaker 2: when the Beatles went to India nineteen sixty eight, I mean,
- 3:17Speaker 2: everybody thinks, all, well, he left after ten days and
- 3:20Speaker 2: he hated the food, and you know, he'd run out
- 3:22Speaker 2: of baked beans because apparently he took a whole suitcase
- 3:25Speaker 2: full of baked beans over, which is hilarious. You know.
- 3:28Speaker 2: So maybe the others were quite happy when he left,
- 3:31Speaker 2: you know, but you know it was one of those
- 3:33Speaker 2: things that actually he wasn't the least spiritual because the
- 3:36Speaker 2: Maharis she gave him a mantra which he still uses
- 3:39Speaker 2: when he meditates daily now. And he's very fun. I mean,
- 3:43Speaker 2: at one point he talks about Jainism, which is, you know,
- 3:46Speaker 2: a Buddhism thing where you're basically you know, it's preaching
- 3:50Speaker 2: non violence to all living things. So that comes back
- 3:53Speaker 2: round to peace and love. So it ain't a sort
- 3:56Speaker 2: of just snappy slogan or whatever. This is something that
- 3:59Speaker 2: he really leaves. And let's be honest and the world
- 4:02Speaker 2: that we've done at the moment, I mean, someone, particularly
- 4:05Speaker 2: an ex Beatle, promoting peace and love, that's got to
- 4:07Speaker 2: be something we'll all think.
- 4:09Speaker 1: And yet I have to have it. I mean, and
- 4:11Speaker 1: that's the one thing that Ringo led me because I
- 4:13Speaker 1: was also studying Buddhism. And it is those single words
- 4:16Speaker 1: that become the empowerment. Because my single word is enjoy
- 4:19Speaker 1: the whole. There could be k chaos all around me,
- 4:22Speaker 1: and I'll go enjoy and because that takes me back
- 4:25Speaker 1: to peace and love from Ringo and and and I
- 4:27Speaker 1: think that's because because he has touched me as as
- 4:31Speaker 1: a performer and as a human being, whereas everybody else
- 4:34Speaker 1: in the music industry, Ah, I got a great song today,
- 4:36Speaker 1: This is so cool. But Ringo continues even today to
- 4:40Speaker 1: be that force.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Well absolutely, I mean I'm a drama and stuff. And
- 4:44Speaker 2: I mean, Rindo's had a huge effect on my life. Yeah, totally, man,
- 4:48Speaker 2: you know. And I mean the Beatles actually, I mean
- 4:50Speaker 2: that's one of my first memories is setting with a
- 4:52Speaker 2: pile of Beatles singles and playing them, but actually land
- 4:56Speaker 2: into reads, you know, off the labels like this boy
- 4:59Speaker 2: and yes it is and all this sort of stuff,
- 5:02Speaker 2: and that was you know, I was born in Scotland.
- 5:03Speaker 2: We lived in London for a little while and that's
- 5:06Speaker 2: my that is my main memory of living in London
- 5:08Speaker 2: as a four year old or whatever is So, the
- 5:11Speaker 2: Beatles have had a huge effect on my life. And
- 5:13Speaker 2: then obviously I became a musician there and a music
- 5:18Speaker 2: journalist and AUSO, and then obviously I aimed up in
- 5:21Speaker 2: this amazing position where I'm able to meet the surviving
- 5:24Speaker 2: Beatles and you Cool and George Martin and stuff. So
- 5:28Speaker 2: I mean, like a lot of your listeners who are
- 5:31Speaker 2: Beatles fans or whatever, and the Beatles have had a
- 5:33Speaker 2: huge effect on their life. I mean it's had a
- 5:35Speaker 2: huge effect on my life as well.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Tom Doyle coming
- 5:39Speaker 1: up next. The name of his book, Ringo A fab Life.
- 5:45Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. We are back with Tom Doyle.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Aren't you really kind of playing into where we are
- 5:50Speaker 1: today when when it comes to society, Because I've had
- 5:53Speaker 1: more business leaders say that the older generation is in
- 5:56Speaker 1: that transition period and we need a book like this
- 5:58Speaker 1: that not only remind of our past and the peace
- 6:01Speaker 1: and love that we've had throughout our past, but this
- 6:03Speaker 1: book says that at eighty four, Ringo Star is still
- 6:07Speaker 1: very happy, he's still very dedicated. And it's that message
- 6:10Speaker 1: that I feel in this book of yours that says,
- 6:13Speaker 1: keep going and growing while you're at it.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Well, I'm really glad you get that, because that is
- 6:19Speaker 2: a theme that is running through the book, you know,
- 6:22Speaker 2: and the fact that he was so oil as a
- 6:24Speaker 2: kid's and then obviously he's survived this phenomenon and then
- 6:29Speaker 2: he has survived addiction issues, and yeah, that is it.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Keep going you know us. Dorry says, just keep.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Swimming now, Now, what is the story behind the seventy chapters?
- 6:38Speaker 1: There's got to be something very ringo star about that,
- 6:41Speaker 1: because so many people would rather just kind of just
- 6:43Speaker 1: let him spread out and have Okay, it's only got
- 6:45Speaker 1: four chapters. You'll love this book. But my god, you,
- 6:48Speaker 1: I mean you, I gotta be honest with you. I
- 6:50Speaker 1: was in that index and I'm going which one do
- 6:53Speaker 1: I want to read? Which one do I want to read?
- 6:55Speaker 1: And you gave me the power of choice, and God,
- 6:57Speaker 1: I love you for that.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, because that is what is
- 7:01Speaker 2: interesting about this It's not a straight biography. I mean
- 7:05Speaker 2: it's called a mosaic biography, the style which means that
- 7:08Speaker 2: you're basically using little, well little portraits of people to
- 7:12Speaker 2: build up the bigger portrait and actually that is interesting
- 7:15Speaker 2: because you don't have to read it in order, you
- 7:17Speaker 2: can sort of dippening out at will. But it means
- 7:20Speaker 2: that each chapter is a theme or it's an episode,
- 7:25Speaker 2: you know. So I can write about, say, Ringo going
- 7:28Speaker 2: a wall right in sixty four Onto, which is a
- 7:31Speaker 2: hilary story where you know, he's staying up all night
- 7:35Speaker 2: basically there's a lot been going on, let's put it
- 7:37Speaker 2: that way, and he ends up hanging out with the
- 7:39Speaker 2: police and they take him out driving, you know, and
- 7:42Speaker 2: then he nearly misses the next Beatles gig because he's
- 7:45Speaker 2: you know, worse for wear and stuff. Or do you know,
- 7:48Speaker 2: I can dedicate a chapter to Ringo's sort of space
- 7:52Speaker 2: age interior design company, which I mean most people had
- 7:56Speaker 2: no idea that he I mean I didn't, being honest
- 7:59Speaker 2: with you, I didn't know that Rango had a space
- 8:01Speaker 2: agency design company, do you know. It's so there you go.
- 8:05Speaker 2: So there's hopefully lots, you know, for your listeners to
- 8:08Speaker 2: dig in and find out new things about w RNGO
- 8:10Speaker 2: in this book. Wow.
- 8:11Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, though, is that it
- 8:13Speaker 1: all begins with this unbelievable book cover because you capture
- 8:18Speaker 1: that Ringo Star that one moment in our life where
- 8:21Speaker 1: I mean he's going to be frozen in our imaginations
- 8:24Speaker 1: and heart forever. And this photograph on the cover, that's it,
- 8:27Speaker 1: you got it. I mean, how did you decide on
- 8:29Speaker 1: this one?
- 8:31Speaker 2: Well, we'll look to lots of photographs and actually, do
- 8:33Speaker 2: you know, we thought a fab life? Which one looks
- 8:37Speaker 2: like Ringo is having a fab life? Yeah, and that
- 8:40Speaker 2: was the one, you know, because it's not big sort
- 8:41Speaker 2: of gren that is so familiar to so many people,
- 8:45Speaker 2: you know, from behind the care and in those films
- 8:48Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So yes, he just looks like
- 8:50Speaker 2: he's having a fab life in this one. Wrango God.
- 8:52Speaker 1: And then Barbara adds right to it too. I mean
- 8:55Speaker 1: I remember I remember reading in the National Inquirer about
- 8:59Speaker 1: Barbara becoming a part of his life and we're all going,
- 9:01Speaker 1: oh my god, you mean a Beatle could be getting
- 9:03Speaker 1: married again? Whoa I mean? And I was once again,
- 9:06Speaker 1: it wasn't even my generation, but yet it was affecting me.
- 9:10Speaker 2: Yeah, Beetle Maris bone Ghetto. I think that's quite a story,
- 9:14Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah?
- 9:16Speaker 1: Yeah, you with your words, You've got a great way
- 9:18Speaker 1: to play with words.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Man, I mean that.
- 9:20Speaker 1: I mean, every every literary class needs to be studying
- 9:23Speaker 1: how you can plant words and make them stick.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know what to say about
- 9:29Speaker 2: but I wouldn't like to agree, you know, because obviously
- 9:32Speaker 2: that would seem to out again. But I do like
- 9:35Speaker 2: my ons and I do like my Beatles.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
- 9:41Speaker 1: Because seven or eight minutes with you is never going
- 9:43Speaker 1: to be enough, and I just want them to really
- 9:45Speaker 1: discover where your passion is, where your heart is, and
- 9:48Speaker 1: why this story has got to continue growing forward.
- 9:52Speaker 2: But Illian, well, they can find me on social media
- 9:54Speaker 2: channels and stuff like that. And the book is out
- 9:57Speaker 2: today in America, so yes, go ahead and get it.
- 10:01Speaker 2: If you like what you've had.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Well, please come back anytime because the door is always
- 10:05Speaker 1: going to be open for you.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Dude, cheers. I thought you were a tat man.
- 10:10Speaker 1: You'd be brilliant today, okay, sir, thank you you too, mine,
- 10:14Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Tears