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- 0:00Still just staggering news, quite frankly coming out of the United States. I
- 0:03mean, some people might have expected President Joe Biden to drop out of the
- 0:08race. I was sort of at the fifty to fifty point. I did
- 0:10not know what to expect. I thought that he was steely and locked in
- 0:14and unwilling to budge. But I also thought that as the pressure continued to
- 0:19mount, it would be very interesting to see how things unfolded. And here
- 0:23we are now knowing for a fact that President Biden has dropped out of the
- 0:27race. He has endorsed Kamala Harris, the vice president, to be the
- 0:30Democratic nominee. It's a pretty big deal. It shakes up the election in
- 0:35ways, in more ways than one, in numerous ways. Joining me to
- 0:38discuss is someone who knows a little bit about presidential elections. He was the
- 0:44former twenty twenty Republican presidential candidate. He's a former Illinois congressman, a talk
- 0:48radio host, and a former social worker. Joe Walsh joins me right now,
- 0:52how you doing this morning, Good to be with you, my friend.
- 0:55Thank you, hey, thank you so much for joining me. Were
- 0:58you surprised when this news oh yesterday? No, you know that debate,
- 1:04right, John, That debate seems like it was ten years ago, But
- 1:07that debate was just over a month ago. But I woke up the morning
- 1:11after that debate and I said to myself, he can't last. Joe Biden
- 1:18had one thing to prove, and one thing only to prove in this campaign
- 1:23that he wasn't too old. He couldn't prove that a month ago. In
- 1:26fact, he disproved it, and America could never unsee that. So it
- 1:33took a month's worth of you know, gentle pressure. But I know Biden
- 1:38believes what I believe, that Donald Trump is an existential threat to our democracy.
- 1:45Joe Biden finally realized that he's not the guy who can beat Trump,
- 1:49and Trump has to lose. So you've been hitting this drum beat as to
- 1:53why you think that Donald Trump is not the guy, why he's dangerous.
- 1:57You are a Republican yourself? Still, are are you a cardcarring Republican or
- 2:00are you a conservative? Oh? I apologize, Yeah, No, I'm
- 2:05a conservative. I left the Republican Party four years ago after my don quixote
- 2:09Republican primary challenge against Trump. So I'm a conservative, A politically homeless guy.
- 2:15So then when you see what Donald Trump embodies and what he's running on,
- 2:21I guess why is it that he, in your opinion, is not
- 2:23the guy to lead the country at this moment. Or four years ago,
- 2:28Oh my gosh, you and I don't have enough time, So I'll cut
- 2:30to the chase. He doesn't believe in democracy. He believes he's above the
- 2:36rule of law. I say every day that he's a threat to democracy.
- 2:39And I try to give a bunch of examples. I'll give just one.
- 2:44Three and a half years ago, he refused to accept the results of an
- 2:47election that had never happened before in America. He then tried to overthrow the
- 2:53election. Here's what we know, like now, it's going to be Kamala
- 2:57Harris. Right. If Kamala Harris loses this is in November, she will
- 3:01concede and she'll accept the results. If Donald Trump loses in November, he
- 3:08won't, and he won't. That's a direct threat to our democratic process right
- 3:14there. How poignant is it that you know Donald Trump, you know,
- 3:17fomented the January sixth attack that occurred, didn't let go. And here you
- 3:23have, you know, Joe Biden, the president willingly walking away from the
- 3:29election months before it even occurs. I mean, it's a real stark difference
- 3:31between the two personalities. And as someone who was a lifelong Republican and I
- 3:37was a Republican congressman, it makes me immensely sad because it tells me where
- 3:40my former political party is right now. My former political party is a I've
- 3:46said it, a bunch an authoritarian embracing cult. Three and a half years
- 3:50ago, Trump overthrows an election. He should be a pariah in this country.
- 3:53He should have been tossed into Siberia. But here he is still the
- 3:58leader of that party and he's on the verge of getting elected again. It
- 4:01doesn't speak well of the party, and truthfully, it doesn't speak well of
- 4:05America. Does the Republican Party exist anymore outside of just you know, name
- 4:10and appearance. Has it become something irreparably damaged? Do you think it could
- 4:15ever go back to the party that you were a card caring member of that
- 4:17you ran for. It will never go back to what it was before Trump.
- 4:23And again, remember I voted for Trump in twenty sixteen. I was
- 4:27never kind of an establishment squishy Republican. I was a big Tea party guy.
- 4:31I believed in freedom and free markets. It'll never go back there.
- 4:35This party is a maga, trumpy party. It's going to stay this way
- 4:40for my lifetime. I think after this election, I think there's a decent
- 4:44chance a new political party, a third party, will come to America.
- 4:48Well, and is there an appetite for it? Yes, there are so
- 4:53many like me who are and you and I haven't talked about the Democratic Party.
- 4:57I'm not a Democratic man. Do they have their issues? There are
- 5:00so many people in the middle, and there are so many center right people
- 5:03like me who don't have a home that can't continue. It's a fracturous place
- 5:10to be. So let's talk then, briefly about the Democrats. I would
- 5:14love to get your take on it. With Vice President Harris looking like she
- 5:17is going to be the Democrat nominee, I don't think, absent some act
- 5:23of God, that that's not going to occur. What do you think about
- 5:26her bona fides and her potential candidacy, as well as the fact I suppose
- 5:30that whether or not we have a debate or not between her and President Trump
- 5:34former President Trump, it still is a prosecutor going up against a convicted felon.
- 5:40That's interesting, Yeah, very interesting. So I'm still I'm in the
- 5:45camp where it doesn't matter to me who the Democratic nominee is. I'm going
- 5:47to vote for the Democratic nominee. If Biden had stayed in Heck, if
- 5:51Joe Biden were one hundred and fifty one years old, I would have voted
- 5:54for him over Trump. Having said all of that, I think the fact
- 5:58that Biden is out Kamala Harris America. You know this hated this matchup Biden
- 6:06Trump. Are you telling that's the best America can do? I mean I
- 6:11heard that every day. You probably heard that every day. So taking Biden
- 6:14out of the equation, putting anyone new in, I think we all underestimate
- 6:18the enormous enthusiasm this will bring forth. I do a lot of speaking on
- 6:24college campuses in America. Young people didn't want to vote for either one of
- 6:27these two guys. They're going to be jazzed up for Harris. And finally,
- 6:30I don't think the Trump campaign fully knows how to deal I know Donald
- 6:35Trump doesn't know how to deal with Kamala Harris. Do you still talk with
- 6:40any currently elected Republicans like in the House yes, fewer and fewer every year.
- 6:46But I just very very very privately on background background, But yes I
- 6:51do. And there are still many who feel the same way about Trump.
- 6:58I do, but they can't say it public. But there are an increasing
- 7:01number of what I call real true believer crazies who do believe in all the
- 7:06trumpy stuff. It's very interesting our vantage point where we broadcast from and Windsor,
- 7:12Ontario, just across from Detroit, Michigan. We've got a front row
- 7:15seat to everything that's happening across the border. Of course, it seems like
- 7:18increasingly, at least from my perspective, America is fracturrous, that's becoming more
- 7:24polarized, more divisive. I'm wondering that do you think that there is the
- 7:28opportunity through renewal for maybe some kind of a healing and coming together or is
- 7:32that just Canadian optimism too high? Oh? Man, I love that question.
- 7:39Here's my answer. When I was in Congress ten years ago, actually
- 7:43I spoke about how I think we're too divided to ever stay together. I
- 7:46think the jury is still out in that question. America is going through what
- 7:50I've called our third revolutionary period. I don't know if this country can stay
- 7:56together. This is the most divided we've been since just for the Civil War.
- 8:01I think things are going to get much darker before they get before,
- 8:05or if they get better. This is a really, really rocky time,
- 8:09and I don't know. If this great experiment can stay together, it'll be
- 8:11quite fascinated. What keeps you optimistic about America? Well, I'm a dark
- 8:18irishman. If you'd asked me that question six years ago, I don't have
- 8:22a lot of opt I didn't have a lot of optimism. Part of me
- 8:24thinks like America has run its course. The only thing that keeps me optimistic
- 8:31is young people. Young people, though they may differ with me politically,
- 8:35they are very motivated and very engaged, and they're pissed off at older generations
- 8:41like myself. I hope they take that piss offness and they use it constructively
- 8:48to help unite this country. Should more young people get into politics, Yes,
- 8:54oh god, I preached that all the time. I get why they
- 8:56don't want to, because it sucks, I mean running through office down here,
- 8:58so you open up your life for the world to see. But here's
- 9:03the deal. We really are broken. I mean, think about it.
- 9:07How could a guy like Donald Trump ever get elected president in this country?
- 9:11A very broken country would do that. Our country is broken. We need
- 9:16a lot of reform the way we elect people, the electoral college. Most
- 9:18of the world still doesn't understand. I think we're at the precipice of a
- 9:24major, major reform period coming up in America after this election. You know
- 9:30what worries me. I look at America and, of course, you know,
- 9:33the the beacon of world security, the pillar of global policing to a
- 9:37certain extent, But with these fractuous divisions on the inside, it seems like
- 9:41it's harder and harder for the country to keep its eye on the ball.
- 9:45And there's a lot that's going on in the world that you know about,
- 9:48of course. I mean, we've got the Middle East, We've got Russia
- 9:50moving into Ukraine is continuing with that. I mean, it's China ascending even
- 9:54more so. I mean, it's a dangerous time. Oh, such a
- 9:58one thing to say. It's in an important point. It is a dangerous
- 10:03time. And we have one of our two major political parties is led by
- 10:07a philosophy that wants to build a wall around America and shut the rest of
- 10:11the world out. You can't do that, and America can't do that.
- 10:16I'm know, Neil Khan, like, I don't want America fighting everywhere,
- 10:18but America is a leader, is the leader, the indispensable leader. But
- 10:24you're right, we're at each other's throats in this country. We hate people
- 10:30that we politically disagree with. That's untenable in a democracy. Got to find
- 10:35a way to be able to still disagree with each other without hating each other.
- 10:39Man, Like, how we do. I disagree with you on some
- 10:41things, but I still like that we get to have a conversation like this
- 10:43one. Joemen, Hey, well, thank you so much for your time.
- 10:46Friend. I hope that we get to speak again sometime soon. Would
- 10:50love that. Thank you, my friend. Thank you. Joe Walsh is
- 10:52a former Illinois congressman and a twenty twenty Republican presidential candidate talk radio host.
- 10:58You can check him out at Wallhall Freedom