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- 0:00Hello and welcome back to Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp, and today we're talking about a very important
- 0:10environmental variable that is often overlooked,
- 0:14and that is the red to far red ratio in your grow room or your greenhouse or
- 0:20anywhere where you're growing plants.
- 0:21Often we think about light levels, but the light quality is very important,
- 0:25so we're going to do a deep dive on the red to far red
- 0:28ratio which scientists have discovered is very
- 0:31critical in how plants grow and it's
- 0:34why some grow lights are ideally suited for
- 0:37growing basil whereas whereas those same lights
- 0:40are terrible for growing things like legal cannabis so
- 0:44we'll explain more in more detail or i'll explain more in more
- 0:47detail as we go along often you'll see lighting manufacturers
- 0:50oversimplifying things saying you know it's got high blue
- 0:53light for compact growth or red light for photosynthesis but
- 0:57it's actually the ratio of red light to far red
- 1:00that's more critical it's often
- 1:03abbreviated to capital r colon capital
- 1:07f capital r so red to far red ratio it's critical
- 1:11for steering your crop development and often you're hearing
- 1:13a lot more about crop steering in many different crops so
- 1:17plants perceive light not just as energy like the
- 1:21chlorophyll absorbs it and it photosynthesizes but more
- 1:24specifically they have photoreceptors that sense
- 1:28the surroundings and the most important one is a group of pigments called phytochrome
- 1:33and phytochrome is not involved in photosynthesis in harvesting it but it does
- 1:37absorb red light and far red light it's an it's a pigment that absorbs both
- 1:42and can switch its structure depending on which one it.
- 1:47Absorbs and then that stimulates metabolic processes and signaling further around the plant.
- 1:53So as you saw, the red to far red ratio can tell a plant if it's full sun,
- 1:57if it's shaded by other plants, if it's near the sunset.
- 2:00So high red to far red means open daylight,
- 2:04no shade, and more far red singles competition
- 2:07because the red will have been absorbed by
- 2:10the chlorophyll and as it goes through the canopy and so
- 2:14you the plants will receive more far red than
- 2:16red and so a shaded plant will grow differently to an unshaded plant
- 2:20it will have thicker leaves bigger
- 2:23leaves it will grow often many
- 2:26plants it will grow long and spindly spindly to
- 2:29to get out of the shade or it can be a sign of dusk there's much more far red
- 2:34at dusk and so plants perceive that it's now coming to dusk and it's going to
- 2:38go night soon and so that can be a critical signal as well so the red to far
- 2:42red ratio at the end of the day length can be important so they can change a
- 2:47growth strategy of the plant.
- 2:49In a greenhouse or a vertical farm we're not limited to just the sun spectrum
- 2:52and the light coming through canopies and things like this we can adjust the red to far red ratio.
- 2:58Used to be the case back when I was doing my PhD that really the
- 3:01only way of doing that was through filter films so you could
- 3:04have polytunnels with different filters on or glass with different filters
- 3:07glass with different filters was very expensive and
- 3:10and the poly tunnels were not much well
- 3:14they were cheaper but they were they weren't as good they didn't they only
- 3:17mildly affected the ratio of red to far red
- 3:20ratio whereas now you can get lights that just have
- 3:23the one wavelength that you're interested in emitting so i've got some lights
- 3:28in my gray room that are just red at 660 nanometers and you look at their spectrum
- 3:32the peak is just at that one wavelength or just a far red or just in the blue
- 3:37so you can massively change the red to far red ratio and it's not just red light in general,
- 3:44you have to be careful. There's one specific wavelength, 660 and 720 to 730 for far red.
- 3:51So there's specific wavelengths. It's not just red in general.
- 3:54That's important to note.
- 3:56So if you're looking at a light spectrum, then look at 660 and 720.
- 4:03Supplementary LEDs can add, you can manipulate them and you can change the LEDs.
- 4:09So grow lights now, you can really have
- 4:12a massive effect on the red to far red ratio and include
- 4:15blues for compact growth and greens to
- 4:18open stomata so there's a whole host of other things you can do with
- 4:21the spectrum you can still use selective grazing or inter canopy lighting or
- 4:27under canopy lighting as well if you're looking to increase the plant height
- 4:32such as increasing by increasing far red or by reducing canopy height by having
- 4:37red light so as a as opposed to using growth regulators and things like this,
- 4:42so light recipes you'll often hear referring to light
- 4:45refugee recipes depends on the crop you're growing so if
- 4:48you're growing lettuce and leafy greens too much far red can cause
- 4:50excessive stem elongation it's not what
- 4:53you want if you want a marketable head of lettuce however
- 4:57if you're growing basil especially if you're growing micro greens as i'm growing
- 5:01at the moment you don't want them to be too short because the compost or the
- 5:05grow media will get in the way of cutting them and they won't look as big so
- 5:10you want more far red in one where you're growing basil.
- 5:14Tomatoes and cucumbers, far red can improve light penetration,
- 5:18canopy structure can accelerate flowering as well and then in ornamental crops
- 5:23flowering in species like petunia and chrysanthemum can be strongly enhanced
- 5:27by end of day far red treatments.
- 5:30So a flowering crop you can get better flowering by just giving a spurt of far
- 5:36red at the end of the treatment.
- 5:37And then perhaps one of the most critical and powerful demonstrations of the
- 5:42importance of this is seeds and germination.
- 5:46Certain species use phytochrome status as a germination trigger.
- 5:50So far red light inhibits germination and then red light promotes it.
- 5:56So if you get a lettuce seed, normally things that promote.
- 6:00Plants need to germinate it's oxygen moisture and warmth
- 6:03you give them all three they'll germinate but in some plants
- 6:06they need light as well they are photoblastic
- 6:10i think that's the word i've googled that just off
- 6:13the top of my head yeah and so if you give lettuce plants
- 6:16far red and then put them in the dark they won't germinate
- 6:19but if you give them red light and then put them in the dark they will
- 6:22germinate and that's because the plant the phytochrome has been activated so
- 6:26that's really powerful and that's the way that phytochrome was
- 6:28discovered and then we found out about things like its
- 6:32effect on stem elongation and flowering later on so
- 6:36recent research has shown that far red is not just a signal but contributes
- 6:39to photosynthesis as well so by extending the use of light spectrum through
- 6:43what's called the emerson enhancement effect far red photons can increase photosynthetic
- 6:48efficiency when paired with red light so we used to think of it as just being
- 6:52this useless wavelength that wasn't actually useful because we can't see it really with our,
- 6:58our eyes far red it's you can just about see
- 7:00it it's it's not invisible to the naked eye but it's
- 7:03pretty dull we don't perceive it very well i think
- 7:06one of the areas that can really be exploited and probably could be exploited in
- 7:09the next few years by growers is end of day far red treatments giving plants
- 7:13a short pulse of far red at dusk used to be really difficult to do this but
- 7:17now it's really easy with modern led lights you could even have a grow light
- 7:20that was triggered to do this automatically so especially for flowering in long
- 7:25day crops promote elongation in young transplants.
- 7:29And reset phytogram status to mimic natural dusk so
- 7:32you can much more natural grow growing conditions so obviously
- 7:36it has to be applied carefully lettuce growers for instance you want to avoid that
- 7:39but for basil crops could be a good one and i
- 7:41think this is where i struggle when you see a
- 7:45lot of led grow lights that are marketed for
- 7:48legal cannabis growers or tomato
- 7:51growers for indoor growers that contain far red light as an
- 7:55as a as a benefit and i think why.
- 7:58Would you want far red light on that light
- 8:01because it's just going to increase stretch and the
- 8:03grower is going to be reaching for the growth regulators and i think we should be
- 8:06avoiding the use of growth regulators so maybe there's
- 8:10i'm not a light manufacturer maybe they found in studies
- 8:13that actually produces a better crop i don't know but for me it seems
- 8:16a bit counterintuitive to include far red light in
- 8:19in the in led grow lights for grow tents and
- 8:22probably that's been borne out by the fact that one of
- 8:25the main companies that that did include far red has
- 8:28now gone out of business so let me
- 8:31let me know your thoughts on the inclusion of far red
- 8:34lights in in lights for indoor growers especially for
- 8:37legal cannabis growers because that's seems a
- 8:40bit bonkers to me so we said that phytocremes are the primary sensor
- 8:43and then downstream effects involve changes in
- 8:46auxin distribution one of the key flower hormones gibberellins
- 8:51and transcription factors and things like this and these cascade
- 8:54and change stem elongation and leaf expansion
- 8:57flower initiation after that so that's been
- 9:00hydroponics daily for today the red to far red ratio
- 9:03i might do another couple of podcasts about spectral quality when the use of
- 9:07green lights as safe lights for going into your grow tent when you're trying
- 9:11to produce short day lengths and the effects of blue light and green light on
- 9:16photosynthesis and plant growth that should be interesting as well okay thanks
- 9:19very much for listening and i'll see you again tomorrow goodbye.