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Escape the Hamster Wheel: Making Intentional Choices for a More Joyful Life with Stephanie Riel · Let's Get Naked

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hey everyone, I'm Anne, and this is Let's Get Naked, the show where we expose the patterns, challenge the stories, and share the cheat codes that make life a whole lot easier.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: Most of us spend years becoming who we're supposed to be.
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  SPEAKER_02: We chase the career, the relationship, the achievement, the approval.
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  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes we get everything we thought we wanted and still feel something is missing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not because we've failed, but because somewhere along the way we stopped listening to ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today's conversation is about what happens when you start paying attention again to your body, to you and to your intuition, excuse me, to the quiet voice underneath all the noise telling you what you already know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because maybe the goal isn't becoming someone new, maybe it's coming home to who you've been all along.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's get naked.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today I'm stripping it all off with Stephanie Real.
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  SPEAKER_02: Stephanie is an entrepreneur, intuitive, excuse me, and somatic leadership mentor.
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  SPEAKER_02: She helps founders, executives, creatives, and high achievers create greater clarity, resilience, self-trust, and aligned success through the integration of business strategy, somatics, and personal growth.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the show, Stephanie.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's so good to be here.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: I love sharing your energy with you.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's like electric in this room right now.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: It feels really nice, doesn't it?
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's lovely.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if you would just maybe start by telling us a little bit about you, and we'll kind of dive in on, you know, whatever that looks like, whatever you feel like you want to share.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Tell us who you are and what your story is.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I loved that intro because you described me, who I was for probably the first three decades of my life.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: Doing all of the things that I thought I, quote, should do, um, winning the awards, getting good grades in school, uh, you know, having the success and the achievement, and really things feeling quite missing.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it's such a beautiful gift because it's led me to where I am.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll I'll explain what that is now, but it looked a lot different if we would have met five years ago, 10 years ago.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and what a beautiful gift that is to be able to come home to myself through a lot of losing my way and trying a lot of things that didn't work.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_00: So, what um what that looks like, I started my first business at 22, had no idea what I was doing.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, not like I know much more now.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we're always learning and growing.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, somewhere along the way, I got stuck in the achievement loop.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: I was really concerned about doing more, achieving more.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: My first business turned into a full service marketing agency for clients across the country.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: I had a remote team all over the country, and um, and we were doing really great things and rocking it for our clients.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I was crushing all the sales goals that were given to me.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: And um, all along, though, my body was telling me something was off.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't have the right language to listen because our body speaks in a very specific language, and it ended up causing a lot of a lot of dis-ease and a lot of um disorientation in my body and my spirit and my energy.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it it literally led to illness, uh, stress, misaligned clients, relationships, you name it.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that journey, even with all the success, I chose to walk away from it.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: And um, it was through a lot of different, what I know we'll talk a little bit about today, somatic practices, finding different things to help me come back to my truth, to my inner being, that really allowed me to wake up and remember who I really am and what I'm really here for, and have led me onto the path that I'm on today.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's been it's looking backward, it's always easy to see that it was all divinely orchestrated, I believe.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and also what a wild ride it's been.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's funny to me because when you talk about looking back, I feel the exact same way.
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  SPEAKER_02: My bestie and I always say, like, it's been a setup.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: Because when you look at like what I'm doing right now or where you are, it's like you couldn't have had, you know, all of the things that you have right now that you're supposed to be doing for the collective, for yourself, for helping other people heal, if you didn't have all of that garbage that kind of led up to.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and so how can you not look back with gratitude, even for all the hard things, uh, especially for all the hard things that have happened to you?
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because when you understand that those are meant to be happening for you, not to you, uh, it's pretty powerful stuff.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_02: Tell me how you got into somatic, like what led you to that?
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  SPEAKER_02: Have you always kind of been in touch with your body, or is that, you know?
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: I believe we're all intuitive, and we are as children.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I have been intuitive, but I don't say that in a in a special way.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: We truly all are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I would I would have different senses come to me when I was a kid, um, different information about people's families or family members.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: I experienced a lot of death as a kid, and I would know um before the family member was gonna pass, like the evening before I would know.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I didn't really have an outlet for that when I was younger, and it wasn't um maybe well well supported.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember one time I was telling uh an elementary school friend that their parents were gonna get divorced, and I got told I didn't know what I was talking about by both the child and their parent, and six months later they were divorced.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it, but it caused a lot of friction for me of not knowing if I could talk about it or not, but knowing and feeling so certain in my being.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: So when when I think of body connection, I think about that first.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but because of those experiences and being told, you know, oh, you don't know what you're talking about, or oh, this can't be true, and a lot of different ways that showed up in my life, I kind of lost a little bit of that connection, especially around like building my businesses and um being a lot in my masculine energy.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: I I I kind of lost my connection with with that as much because I was so focused on the 3D and putting emphasis outside of myself and in the external world, the achievements, the goals, the uh awards, you know, checking the boxes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it there was a little bit of a disconnection that came.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'll take you back to 2021 because I had grown my business 35% year over year, two years in a row.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: Nice, which is amazing.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I was so depleted.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: My body had been screaming at me for many years that something was off and I wasn't listening.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: I was pushing harder.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um that year, I injured my owner nerve, which is a nerve in your elbow.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think baseball players often get the injury to their owner area.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I got it from typing too much, from being on my computer for 16 to 18 hours a day, no exaggeration, wasn't taking breaks.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I had to completely change the way I was working for a while.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so um one of my spiritual mentors calls it the spiritual two by four when you're not listening and then you get hit and you have to stop.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: Very familiar.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: That was one of my spiritual two by fours.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, funny for me, uh looking back, um, I took that as an invitation to try harder at the time.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: And so I was trying to work from my couch using a pillow to prop up my arm.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: I could only work for about 20 minutes at a time.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I was taking breaks and doing different things.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I also had to do nine weeks of PT to get full function of my arm back because it was painful and it was cramping and all kinds of things were happening.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but in that time I launched six brands, two websites, and a whole new business for myself as well.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: And so I still wasn't listening.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so more lessons came.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: I had more health challenges coming, more um, more experiences, and really it all started to change in that year 2020, because I went to an event here in Phoenix, um, and there were 600 women in the room, and there was a sound healer on the stage.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of knew who she was, but I didn't really know her.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I heard a voice come to me and say, You need to know her, pay attention.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so I started following her on Instagram, uh, started to get connected, but she didn't have any way for us to work together.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: We had a lot of mutual friends, but I didn't like know her, know her.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: And within that year, she launched a one-on-one coaching and mentorship program, and I signed up immediately.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was through that process, and now around that same time, I was doing anything I could to manage my stress.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I was trying breath work.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: I I started to do meditation.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I had found sound healing and was trying to soak up more of that.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I had had a yoga practice for many years, but kind of fell away from it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I got back into a little bit of yoga, and it was through flexing that muscle of reconnecting to my body and giving myself breaks from just working all the time that I really found somatics and was really able to see, oh gosh, what am I doing here?
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: This is all out of alignment, and this is why this is manifesting in this way for me.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_02: When you realize that it's as well, because as you're speaking, I'm like, yep, same, yep, same, yep, same.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: Because it was like looking back, it's obviously, you know, hindsight is 2020, but I look at the same thing where it was like building and growing my businesses, and my body was screaming at me.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: Same exact thing, where it was like, you know, I'm working a job and starting my business and had two little kids at that time.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_02: And so I'm just trying to like, and and we, you know, very in my masculine, very into producing and and all of the things, but it's like your body is screaming at you.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_02: And back then it was the same thing, just try harder, just grind harder.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you talk about being misaligned with different clients and other things.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I've come to realize that in later years of how savage that affects your life when you have clients that don't align, work that doesn't align, uh, decisions that don't align, that you just think, oh, that's the next right thing from whatever your reason is, right?
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: For me, it was very performative of uh when I when I produce, I get accolades and kudos, I make more money.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: And so it was just produce, reward, produce, reward, produce, reward.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's very masculine.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't, I wasn't in my creative, I wasn't, you know, in touch with my feminine at all, which has uh led to lots of work.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: I have a lot of work, you know, I had a lot of work to kind of get through to bring it all together.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: How did you balance your masculine and your feminine when you kind of got through that point of realizing like this is way out of balance?
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know, at first, I'm a triple fire sign, so I do things really zero to a hundred.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: I like your stack, which is great and a lot of fun, and also maybe not the way that I would recommend others to do it.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: Unless you're also a triple fire sign, then it could be really fun.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I actually put a pause on everything.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: So um in 2022, I actually at the time I had breast implants.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: I looked very different.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: I wore hot pink everywhere, my hair was really long, and I had breast implants that were actually making me quite ill.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: And um, in addition to other things.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I'd made the choice to X-plant and I prepared for that X-plant.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I started my first business in 20, 2009.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and this was 2022, and I had never taken a real vacation because I was either working for other people's businesses, working for my clients on the side, nights and weekends, doing the side hustle thing before that was the thing.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Again, very my masculine.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: I very much relate with what you were sharing.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but that surgery was coming and I wasn't feeling great in my body to begin with.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: I was having a lot of fatigue and brain fog and headaches and all these other, I had like 30 mystery symptoms nobody could place.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't know how my body was really going to react to my X-Plant.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to be sure that I was really able to rest and recover because I knew my body needed that.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so um it was so beautiful.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: I there was an opening.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: I was on a wait list for quite a while, and um, my appointment wasn't supposed to be till the following year, but there was an opening, a last-minute cancellation that came to me the week before Thanksgiving in 2022.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so I planned for the first time in my life to take two weeks off.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've I had been working since I was 15 years old and helping my dad with his business when I was little, always strong work ethic.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I planned to take two weeks off.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: And to answer your question, the first thing that dropped in is I remember those two weeks.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: I started feeling great right after surgery, which was such a miracle and so incredible.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: And my body was clearly speaking.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I also didn't want to go back to work after those two weeks.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: I took a break and I was like, oh, wait, this is really misaligned.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: I had built that performance-based caricature of myself.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: I always had a hot pink blazer on.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if you go to my Instagram, you scroll back to then, you will see exactly how I had branded myself.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: I had a marketing and branding agency.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: I did a really great job with that using intentional colors, you know, to evoke certain emotions using color psychology.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: It was great.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: And also, it wasn't really me.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: I was playing a part.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: And when I took the mask off and stopped playing the part and allowed myself to rest, truly rest for the first time my whole life, I realized that was really nice and I liked that.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I really didn't want to go back to operating the same way I did before.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's really powerful.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't disagree.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: I've had something very similar that happened where it was just like when your body gets a taste of that and you it does feel aligned, or you're actually taking care of it or listening to it, um, the rewards are pretty, pretty profound in how it speaks to you.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: I also had an ex-plant about three years ago.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: And and it's wild because tell me how you, you know, maybe you can share a little bit about your experience with that if you don't mind.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: Of you said yes, you started feeling better right away.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: But what did that do for you as far as your self-esteem and your confidence and all of the things?
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: Because I talked to women who want to do it and don't want to do it and all of the things, and I I did it and could not be happier with that because I also felt like it was taking a mask off because I spent um a long time.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_02: I I probably had them for 15, 16 years and and big.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I had giant jugs, yeah, because I was like, fill the skin up, right?
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I had babies and the skin got, you know, whatever.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, fill the skin up.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so um I went from that to like, I mean, I'm like a eighth, eighth grade boy now, which is fine.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but but I'm really happy about it.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like for me, that was a big part of it.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't think I would be able to do the work that I do now had I left them in because it almost felt like a filter that I was behind.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: Share maybe a little bit with what your experience is and how that affected you.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I I had implants for about five and a half years, but from the week I had the surgery the first time to get them, I felt a difference in my body.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I had an intuitive hit before I even had the surgery that it likely wasn't aligned for me, but I already paid the down pop to payment and I didn't want to waste my hard-earned money by not going through with it.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I had always wanted boobs.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: I was the only woman in my family not to have like, you know, the womanly figure, the breasts, and um really always desired that and finally decided I was gonna do it.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, oh, it has to be something else.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it can't be the it can't be my implant.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then I also had doctors telling me, oh, it's not your implants, it's your thyroid, it's whatever else.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: You're working so much, you're stressed, you just got married, you just got, you know, just moved, you did all these things.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's clearly that.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: And um so I think it I I went into surgery really at a low confidence level of really wanting that external appearance to be something and to mean something.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then when I had surgery, I mean, having the big boobs, I had big boobs as well.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: It was great.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: It was fun for a while.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and also I realized it actually didn't really change that much.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, I think it was maybe perhaps for me personally worse for my confidence.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: And then I didn't feel good on top of it.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: And so it um it really ended up being a wake-up call, but I was concerned about the procedure as well.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, what if I don't feel better afterwards?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: What if the doctors are right and it really is in my head?
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or it really is just, you know, my stress and my work.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so I felt a lot of resistance in that.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember I was listening to, I don't remember what podcast, but I was listening to a podcast interview and somebody was sharing their X-Plant journey and their story and um all these symptoms that they were having that were unexplained, and how within a couple of days after surgery, things in their physical body started changing.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I had this, I at the time I was working a lot.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm finding my yes and my no inside my body, and that's a foundational thing I teach to my clients now.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I felt this overwhelming yes in my body of, yeah, this is for you, you gotta do it.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I called the surgeon later that day.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and afterwards, I am more confident now.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: I am more in my body, and you know, even thinking about the energetics of that foreign material on our chest, on our heart space, the blockage that it creates there and those vital organs that it's the weight is sitting on top of because I had physical pain and um my body had stopped producing oil and I didn't even realize it until I went for my post-op my two days.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I had surgery on a Tuesday, I'll never forget Thursday.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: I had my follow-up appointment and I went to go put on my button up to go to the surgeon's office.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, what is this on my face?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: This is so weird.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: It was oil.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: My bot my skin had stopped producing oil while I had implants and it already started back again.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: And it was just like, oh, okay, body, I hear you.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: And like my healing was amazing, and it really allowed me to establish a new connection with my body and to have a lot more love and reverence and respect for my body as it is.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that I believe, had I not made that decision, I don't know that I'd be as embodied in the work that I do now.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if for no other reason, then it's really hard to drop into your heart space when you have a foreign object literally sitting on your chest.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and I I look at it as you think about you get a splinter and what does your body do?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Because the human body's amazing, right?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: It tries to push that out.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't matter whether you have saline or silicone, it's still plastic in your body at the core of your, you know, the center of your chest.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: And again, I get it.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's like bring that confidence and all of the fun.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but at what cost?
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: Because for me, I got to the same point where it was like, I was having all of these symptoms, and they're like, no, these don't add up to it.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: There doesn't, there's no ex explanation for what they are.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: And yet somehow having the implants removed, I no longer have any of those symptoms.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's like, I mean, I think we should talk more about that.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: Because even the doctor that took them out, who is excellent, um, still was like, oh, I don't know that there's any findings that really, you know, lead to that, except all of these women who say we had them taken out and we don't have that anymore.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so for me, it's like highly recommend.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: I get it.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: Do you not get aware of the tops that make your, you know, look like you have giant jugs?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: But I think that that actually prevented connection for me with other people because it was like, you know, I was self-conscious about hugging people and whatever.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: Hugging felt very different.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: It did, right?
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's like now I'm like, get in here, you know?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I ended huggers.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I and I love that, you know, but I don't think I would have been able to do that.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: I do a lot of work with um with men, you know, and and I've been in the construction industry my entire career and all of the things.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, I don't think I could do the work with men that I do now if I still had those giant jugs where it's like you're I don't know, and I don't mean hiding behind, but there is definitely that barrier there where it just kind of doesn't didn't feel right.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: It didn't feel aligned for me, but I had them for a long time.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: Talk to me about kind of being in your body and how important that is, because I know that you talked about, you know, being intuitive when you were younger and then kind of maybe ignoring that a little bit and then coming coming back to that, which I think you referenced as coming home.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I agree with you a thousand percent.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: I had a further amount of time away than than that.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um but that's exactly what I felt like when I kind of started getting into my body.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: But tell me what that kind of looks like for our listeners so that it they can understand that a little bit more.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I when I think about the kind of the journey that I've been on and the time, what I would say outside of my body and inside of my body, um, which is a funny way to say it because people are like, you know, of course, I like I live, I'm I'm sleeping, I eat food every day.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like those are all body functions.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yes, and there's a big difference in the way that I live now than what I did before.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I won't even make a decision, like to even come on this podcast.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: I asked my body if I was meant to be here or not, if it's in my highest and best in good.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: And there's a I you can use your body as a pendulum, you can actually use a pendulum, you can do a lot of things to help establish that connection.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I think we live in a society that encourages us to do the opposite.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you need this serum, you need this outfit.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, getting even good grades as a child, the the programming and the messaging that we receive to place that worthiness and that um connection outside of ourselves.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: To me, when I think about being in my body, it's bringing the focus back inside and really sitting with for any decision, even if it's what am I gonna eat today?
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want that body?
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: How does that sound?
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: And instead of just being in your head space and thinking about it and and rationalizing or theorizing on it, um, really taking a moment to maybe take it a breath and bring it into the body.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: And you can do something simple like um even just feel the breath when it comes into your body.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: You probably feel, or maybe you feel the air underneath your nose when you're taking your breath in through your nose, or maybe you feel your rib cages.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Expand even a second for a breath that our bodies do just automatically.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: We're not even thinking about it.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: When we can bring some consciousness to that, it helps to establish that reconnection to the body.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's like a muscle.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like being in the gym.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: We don't start with the 25-pound weights, even though I would like to sometimes my trainer gets at me for that.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: But we have to start small and work up.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe it's bringing awareness to what it feels like for your breath to come into your rib cage and noticing that.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Then maybe it's asking a question: what color do I want to wear today?
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Seeing how it feels in your body.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and really just starting to bring that awareness.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because to me, that's what being in the body is.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's having that constant relationship and dialogue with the body because the body's always giving us information, whether it's pain or a sensation is another word I use for that.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's it's all information.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, maybe it's a gut feeling.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: One of the examples I use with with um people that are newer to this work is maybe you've been driving on the street and you're like, oh, you know, I usually go right, but I think I'm gonna go left today.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then you find out later that there was a bad accident to the right.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's being in your body too.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: And that's something I feel so many of us do without even thinking about it.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: But if we can bring some awareness of those those things, we can really see how we're in constant relationship with our body and everyone else around us too, and those energy bodies that are always connecting.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think, I think everything you say is the absolute truth.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I just I think so many people don't realize how important that connection to their body is because we live in a society of numbers where it's like, you know, you're not supposed to kind of be in tune with that.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: You push it down and numb on top of it, and push it down and numb on top of it.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then we just the sources of your numb are endless, right?
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: You can anything from scrolling and TV and food and alcohol and drugs and like shopping, porn, like anything.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: But what happens is you get so disconnected from your body from what I think is source, right?
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_02: Which is your gut, that um you everything feels out of alignment because you don't even know.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: You're just making decisions based on, you know, what's happening in your head or in our and our minds are terrible, right?
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: I think everybody, anybody listening to my show will understand that that's where I the position that I come from is our minds are really terrible.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: They're not good to us.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so you have to really, again, start with the lower weights to to work with that to get, you know, to get to a good place.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: But being in touch with your body is everything.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: It it guides you in a way where it's like, um, I don't even have to do any of the decision making anymore.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: I literally feel that and connected with myself, where it's like, I know that my gut is going to lead me on the path of whatever my highest and best is, and that that's going to serve the collective in whatever way it's supposed to.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I just think that that's so powerful to be able to be in touch with.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to share that knowledge with other people so that they can also understand that's a possibility and also easily attainable without something that's so crazy.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yes, you have to do the work, you know.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: For me, it's like the journaling and the just being still with yourself.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: Go take a blanket and lay under a tree with no phone.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like just see what and that's so uncomfortable for people.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: And for me, I'm like, that's my Saturday morning.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I crave that quiet time and really being able to just connect with myself and with nature.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we have to be able to unplug from what's going on.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: If not, you just then no wonder we all feel anxious and you know, over over everything, right?
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's like over overstimulated, overworked, over just over everything.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I feel like as a society, we're at that place right now.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: We have so much information, literally at our fingertips every day.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, I I get really curious about like the evolutionary standpoint of like why our body does things the way it does.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm really curious about neuroscience and all these other areas of um study that go into my work.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: And um, if we think back to like cavemen and evolution and our nervous system and um our our response and how we evolved as humans, our our nervous system, it's sad, is always surveying the environment for danger.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: When it was cavemen, there were predators, there were animals, you know, uh the the that was that was the experience.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: Now we don't really have that in our civilized world.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yes, if you live in in a remote area, absolutely there's amazing wildlife that could be a danger.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I think what's more dangerous is our phones and the constant notifications.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, do this.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Did you see this?
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you have however many emails.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, here's the social media notification.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it's and all the news that we have access to, it really shifts us into a state of chronic stress and uh disconnects us from that inner experience or just being able to connect in under the tree.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: I love trees.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you were talking about trees, I was like, that's my favorite thing to do too.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Same.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: And um and it's rare, it's more rare now for people.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: You might see people out in public, but they might be walking in on their phone the whole time.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I my belief is that further connects us more.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_02: Now I think I I encourage people to go on what I call awe walks, right?
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: Which is like just being an awe and wonder of the things that you see instead of having your phone and your or your face in your phone.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, I don't know if you guys realize this or not, but there's some really cool shit that's happening out, you know, out in nature, out in the world.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: If you're looking at birds or critters or, you know, tree leaves and the wind.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, just unplugging to that extent feels so good.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: Your body thanks you for it.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it literally thanks you for it.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, but it is still, I think people are so uh, oh God, just bombarded with everything that it is.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: And like when you're talking about the notifications, my whole entire body is just like I know.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: I know I saw your body contract.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: Because I do, I have all of mine turned off, and I look at I'm talking to my husband, and he's like, Oh, it doesn't bother me.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, how can it not?
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: Every time that something tings or buzzes or any, it doesn't even matter.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, and we're so in, you know, it pushed on us to like have the grocery store app notify you and have this app and it's and it's ding, and then it's a weather servant, and it's all this stuff.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, throw that thing in the trash.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and I and I realize that that's extreme, and I sound like a kooky old lady, and also I don't care because I know what the difference is when you plug into um just yourself and and nature and being in touch with that as opposed to just letting this phone completely uh drag you around while they while they steal your energy.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I talk about um energy being Skittles in in my book because it's like I want people to be able to understand their energy.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I think for the most part, if you're not kind of in this industry or whatever, you don't understand that your energy is your most valuable resource.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_02: And it's it's bigger than your time, than your money, than all of the things.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: And it is literally being robbed out from underneath you by anybody that is advertising, like the social media, the politics, the big pharma, like all of that stuff.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, they are literally robbing you of your most valuable resource and you don't even realize it.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: You just think you're being entertained.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: You just think you're being entertained.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's a lovely way to say that.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: You just think you're being entertained.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: But not once have I ever gotten off of social media and felt like, oh, I feel better.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: Zero times.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's happened zero times.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: If you're out there and you're listening and for some reason you're you feel refreshed after you're done doom scrolling, by all means reach out and let me know because it would be the first person that I've ever talked to.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not judging anybody.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: I ever we all like we're all sucked into it, and I totally get it.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: But when you realize that, it's like, do more things where you can shut off notifications, where you can make those small decisions where it's like, if you feel drained afterwards, replace that with an activity or something that you feel it energized after and just continue to make those changes until your life just keeps getting better and better.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_02: And it will start with super easy things, um, but you're worth doing that too until you get to this place where you just have so much energy that it's uh in abundance and you can spend it however you want to instead of just feeling drained as you're walking through your life the whole time.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: I got tired of watching people drag themselves through life half dead from exhaustion, comparison, and bullshit.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I built a system that flips the script.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: This book is for the ones who refuse to settle, who know deep down there's more, and who are ready to call themselves out to level up.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: If that's you, welcome.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_02: You can get your copy of the Life Hack Playbook on Amazon or on the podcast website, let's get nakedpodcast.com.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: How do you help people with a somatic?
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I've done stuff where it's like breath work or so, you know, share with me kind of what you what you suggest for people or what you guide your clients through, or what does that look like?
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think for anybody listening who wants to even just give it a try, I think even taking a mindful walk, that is absolutely a form of meditation without a phone or a device.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: You can bring a pet with you.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: I I have a dog.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: So, yes, you can walk your pet while you're doing it, but I would almost encourage you to take a walk alone and just notice five things you see on that walk.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: And notice how you feel when you're doing it.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that might be an invitation just to get started.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of the ways that I work with clients, it's all into intuitive of what my client needs in the moment.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: I get, I will physically feel what they're feeling in their bodies.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: I will hear what needs to come through.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I use a lot of the different modalities that I have practiced.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: So meditation is absolutely one.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, sound healing.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: And then I also do somatic movement and emotional release work too.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I use, I see it as a tool belt, just like uh anybody in in a home reno, you have your whole toolbox.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I see it as the different tools that could come through.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes things come through that I'm like, I don't even know what this means, but check it out.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so we we do first most of my sessions um that are one-on-one.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: We start with an energy reading first, and I get information um after an intake process, and then we we work through what they need.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: So it's all personal and customized to my clients.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: For my entrepreneur clients, sometimes they like to hire me for specific sprints that they're going through in their business, different growth seasons, um, and I help them build more mindfulness and capacity so that their nervous system can actually handle the level of growth they're going into.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have the language for this when I had my marketing agency.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but so often I would see my clients and we would crush a marketing campaign and bring them all kinds of leads, and then they wouldn't actually close many of them because they didn't have the sales structure, or that's what my human brain thought.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: And in years in reflection and meditation since, I've seen that so often their nervous system didn't have the capacity to hold the level of success that they were actually trying to bring in.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so it ends up being almost like it bounces off and it's a boomerang, it goes away.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't mean it can't come back again, but um, that capacity in our energy body and the frequency we're at, I believe, really impacts um our success in business too.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: So um my work looks a little different for everyone, but I use a lot of those core principles.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: And um the first thing I teach any client is how to feel into their yes and their no in their body because my my purpose and my mission, I love helping people come home to themselves, as we've talked about, but um I don't want anybody to be reliant on me to do that.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think some of the practitioners out there that, you know, really have those long-term relationships with their clients and and there's almost a codependency there.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that doesn't feel aligned for me.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: I want to empower people that they can make their own decisions and trust themselves and they don't need any other support outside of themselves.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I teach them that first, and then we see where the container goes from there.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and it's exciting once you do that work and you kind of get in tune in tune with your gut because it, you know, doing that work, it helps you get rid of anything out of your life that doesn't feel aligned because you feel it in your body and you're like, this doesn't feel right.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go this other direction.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: This doesn't feel right, I'm gonna go this other direction.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I've learned over the last couple of years, like things that I force where it's like it I didn't check in with my body, even not even like um, it feels wrong.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_02: Just I didn't check in with my body at all, and I'm doing things, and then I'm like, why does life feel hard right now?
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: Why do I feel like I'm pushing?
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: Why do I feel like I'm grinding?
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, once I figure out what that thing is that's out of alignment and I get rid of it, it literally just makes life easy.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how else to say that, but other than when you're in alignment, it's not difficult to just follow what your gut is telling you.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: And is it, you know, I don't know, is it right or wrong?
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: I now have this show and a book and a the and project, you know, where I'm like, I'm gonna change the world.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna bring, you know, all of these things that I'm doing.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like I have all of this energy and I'm so in tune with my knowing that I don't question anymore.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, go here, do that.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: When you talked about like, I need to have this person in my life or whatever your you know, intuition told you, yes, it's like it will talk to you just that clearly where it's like, you need to do this.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I have this funny story where it was like um there's these ladies in in old town Scottsdale and they're walking by and I'm in my car and I have this box of books, and my gut's telling me, like, go give those ladies a copy of your book.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I don't want to.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: And then it's like, hit me again.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I don't want to.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: And this whole time they're still walking down the street in Old Town Scottsdale, and it hit me the third time, and I'm like, God damn it.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm, you know, trying to get the books out of the back of the car and run after these ladies without looking like a lunatic.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like, your gut knows I don't know what the, I don't even know need to know what the connection was.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: It has nothing to do with me.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's like just literally following um, almost like a scavenger hunt is what it feels like to me.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I love that because I just kind of turn it into a game.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: And so when I'm out of alignment, I'm constantly trying to figure out what it is.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: So when I'm in alignment, I'm always like, okay, what am I doing right now that's making me feel so good?
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_02: And it is the meditations, the walks, the journaling, um, the reading, the making certain certain that I'm really rooted in deep gratitude.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_02: Not just like I'm thankful for this, but like, you know, just rooted so deeply in that.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_02: For me, that's so incredibly important so that I um don't lose sight of all of the important things.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like, yeah, that's that's savagely important.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: What do you do to stay in tune with yourself, or what do you feel like is part of the things that lead to you really feeling most connected to your knowing?
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: Time in nature.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: I love the birds and the trees, and even um, you know, getting time in nature as much as I can.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um meditation, absolutely.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: I I I go by what feels good in the moment and and what my body calls for.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: So sometimes it's a completely silent meditation.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I'll do a guided practice.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I recently I've been doing a lot of um somatic release work for myself, self-guided practice.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and it it shifts, it evolves.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I definitely I love journaling as well.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't often play the sound bowls for myself.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: I typically offer that for others, but I'll go to a sound bath and truly be able to be in receiving mode.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because there's something different when you're playing the bowls versus really just being able to lay down and receive.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I went to speak to a kid's school a couple years ago and I played the bowls for them, and they're like, Do you play these for yourself all the time?
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh, you know what?
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: I really don't.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's a little different, you know, when I'm doing it for myself and they're like, oh, we get it.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it was, it's a good reminder because we can always come back to those practices.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be, you know, some 17-step wellness routine or a fancy cold plunge or sauna machine and sauna, even though I do love those tools and their time and place as well.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but even taking, taking a couple of breaths can really bring you back into the present moment.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: And um I think especially in those moments where maybe we are feeling a little activated or triggered, or you know, a stressful situation came up and we're between meetings in our in the in the real world and our in our daily lives, um, we might not be able to jump into a full hour-long meditation, but we can probably take a couple of deep breaths.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: The breath work I think is huge.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_02: One of the things that that came into my awareness a couple of years ago that I feel like is really savagely important is, you know, in the morning when you start your day before you even get out of bed, you know, lay putting your hand on your stomach and your hand on your chest and just spending three minutes taking dig, you know, deep breaths and the same thing at the end of my day doing the same thing.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I think whenever throughout the day that you need to kind of connect back, doing that, shutting out everything and just taking a minute to yourself.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think when you realize how important that your nervous system regulation is to the everything, to the success of your happiness, the success of your life, the success of everything, um, you should treat your nervous system like it's its own business.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: And and whatever it is that it takes, because it isn't all of these things necessarily.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, there's all of these great modalities, but it also can be as simple as taking a walk, taking time for yourself, meditating.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I think a lot of people hear that and they think, oh, they have to have you know, that there's certain rules.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, no, no, no, there's no rules.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like listen to your body and just start making little uh micro deposits into listening to your body so that when it says do something, do that, you know, or if something isn't working, do the opposite of whatever that is and see how you feel in your body.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think that's really, really important.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's such a good reminder.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think even if it's a quick second, we can hum.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: Humming activates our vagus nerve and really helps our tone, the toning that we can do to bring some calm.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, thinking about, you know, uh what animals do, uh they shake, they shake it off.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I shake in public.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: You might see me in old town sometime just shaking it off.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it's I, you know, old an older version of me would have been like, oh, I wouldn't, you know, shake my body like that and walking down the street.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: But now I'm like, if I need it, if I feel that energy in the moment, I need to clear it, I'm gonna do that.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, it doesn't have to be something fancy.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: It might even just take a second.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: But um, but we can really change our state and really be kind to our nervous system and have good nervous system hygiene.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_02: Nervous system hygiene, what a lovely.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: I've never heard that term before.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_02: What that's a that's a good one.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's really important.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I do stuff where it's like I start my day um dancing, I to put music on and just it is the best, you know.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like I look at people when they when I'm talking to people about like, tell me about your day, like what are your habits, you know?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: And when people tell me, like, okay, so and I always want to know when at what point do you pick your phone up?
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's always key for me.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_02: How how many minutes into getting out of bed, if you're even out of bed by the time you reach for it for the first time, um, that tells you everything you need to know.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_02: You're starting your day off completely dysregulated, right?
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: Or I turn the news on, or you know, and it's like our minds are literally that you don't want to be putting that kind of garbage in there.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_02: No, you're gonna get out what you put into it.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so that's really, really important to not, I don't know.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: Tell what what were you gonna say?
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say it it's interesting because we're human, right?
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: So nothing's ever perfect.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: There are days where I wake up and I do look at my phone.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: Or um, you know, there's there's also days where I don't look at my phone for the first three hours of my day.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: But when I've brought some awareness into that, you can I can tell the difference for me of under how my body feels, how my brain feels, how my whole day goes and my energy is because we're setting that up.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the the thing I always come back to is the world is so noisy.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: And like I I work with some very successful entrepreneurs that, you know, they I and I have been one in in many phases too, where I was always on the phone and connected.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: But what a gift you can give to yourself, your family, your business.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: If you take just a few minutes for yourself in the morning, even if it's just the time that you wake up, you go to the bathroom, you brush your teeth, you maybe you stand outside for a couple moments, even if it's four minutes total, how that might actually shift your whole day, because you're not immediately jumping into whatever fires that um that the devices and the notifications have in store for us.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_02: I used to be this person who was like, I would get up and I would check my emails like from bed, you know, and I'm thinking, why am I doing that?
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: They're going to be there when I by the time I get to my desk to sit down.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's literally just being in tune with yourself to make those little adjustments.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_02: And anything that I ever, you know, say on the show or out and about, it's like no one is perfect.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's I'm just, these are suggestions because it's like some days there are days when I burn my life to the ground because, you know, whatever it is, right?
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_02: And an email that you got or a notification or something that you weren't ready for and you weren't regulated or whatever.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like when you realize that you have control over those choices, right?
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_02: You have choices, you have agency.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um use that to your advantage.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_02: You know.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_02: Tell me about uh, you know, do you have siblings, your parents?
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_02: How do they feel about all of the stuff that you're doing?
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: Are they on board with it?
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think my family a little bit is like they think I'm a wack-a-doo, and also I'm totally fine with that because I'm planting seeds the whole time.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_02: And also they're starting to come.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll do this show so that you can we're being the example myself.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm an only child.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: So, um, and my father died in 2013.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: So it's my mom and I.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and she's curious and also questioning.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she definitely, I grew up in the Midwest, so um, and her whole side of the family still lives in in Ohio.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it's just a different way of being, you know, they don't have as um access to as many um outdoor activities like we do here in Arizona, even for just like hiking or getting out in nature.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: I remember I told my one uncle to ground a couple of years ago, and he was like, huh?
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then he's like, I actually tried it and it was really nice.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Thank you.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so I think there's curiosity, but also a lot of a lot of questioning.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: And uncertainty because it isn't.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: And it and also, my life looks very different now than it did even five years ago.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think sometimes when we go through massive change and transformation and we have our own healing experiences, and our life looks different because we're making different choices or things have fallen away that aren't there any longer.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it can take the people in our lives a little while to catch up.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: Do you find that as you're going on your journey that you lose people?
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: So many.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_02: I I love to tell people that so that they know to expect that because we're meant to grow, you know?
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so when you have people that say you changed, I'm like, I know that's the goal.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's the goal.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the assignment.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: I am changing.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're all meant to do that.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to live the same year on repeat over and over again.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, I I've lost people too.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, you don't see people that are on this journey of um tapping into themselves and into their knowings and and going down this whole path.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_02: You don't see those people going, oh, I want back into the whatever you call it, right?
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: Into the herd or the muck or the what, like whatever.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_02: And again, no judgment.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: I've lived in there for decades.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: But once you see it, once you understand, you can't unsee that.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's like we need to have a forum to be able to gather folks like us together because I think it's it's pretty wild where it's like, I don't wanna, I don't want to plug in with folks that don't understand how savagely important this stuff is.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_02: Not from a I'm like, I want to share the knowledge.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: I want to help those people.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: That's I literally feel like everyone that has gotten out of it does the work to share, right?
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like I watch that I have no shortage of having folks like you come on the couch and say, Let me share with you the, you know, the way to be able to help.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: And everyone is literally like, life can be so much better.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: But let me, you know, show you some of the cheat codes or the ways.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: But I think it's I think it's one of those things where I get, for me personally, like really excited about sharing it with people.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_02: And then they're like, who's this way I could do, you know, over in the side, going, Oh my God, oh my God, let me share with you about Skittles and energy and you know, absolutely.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a childlike wonder though, even to see you talking about it.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_00: And that to me is like, yeah, that's true essence.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's true, I believe.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's true, source energy coming through you believe to share the magic.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, some people aren't ready to see that though, or their soul, I believe our souls before we come here, have a choice for our um uh life.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_00: And um, some people don't don't choose that.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that's okay too.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: And also, as I believe, as we're growing and evolving, our frequency shifts and we're changing.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then the law of attraction, whatever isn't in alignment, is naturally going to fall away.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: And that's an okay thing.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_02: People aren't meant to be in your life for the whole time, right?
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so when people realize that, um, it's okay.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's not like a sad thing when someone comes and goes.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's that is what it is.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I I've gotten to this place with the the work that I've done where I'm um I'm living my life through the eight-year-old perspective.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_02: I do too.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's um, what does my eight-year-old want to do?
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_02: And that's where I come from every day, every single day, because I just think it's the awe, the wonder.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I have play in my week every single week.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like when I talk to other people who feel like they're kind of trudging through life, I'm like, show me where play is on your calendar.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_02: And you're like, what are you talking about?
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, people look at me like I'm crazy.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yeah, no, no, no, where's the play?
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: Because yes, we were meant to like get older and have to adult, and I get it, but where's the play?
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because I can't get enough of it into my calendar.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was like, but why do we have to grow up and not have any fun?
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's like we're meant to still do that.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, sure, do we have to pay bills and all of the things?
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, but it's like I just think we've gotten so out of whack.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't, I think people maybe don't know how to set it down or get back to like the play.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because for me, what does it matter if you have this big house, that you have this huge mortgage and this fancy car if you can't afford to do play?
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'd rather live in a cardboard box and have the money to be able to do um the things that are play.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_02: And also play can be free, right?
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's like absolutely go for a walk, go for a bike ride.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: You know, if you're not, if you're not plugged into other things, you'll really begin to enjoy that from a from a cool perspective.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_02: What are things that you do that are like um that are play?
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what does play look like for you?
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think a lot of people as adults are like, what is she talking about?
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: I talk to my clients about this all the time.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because so often when we are accomplishing in business, it's another strategy, it's another goal, it's another benchmark.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: And um I say, Well, what do you do for fun?
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: And they're like, Well, I work on my business.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: And that was me.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_00: I was my hobby, it was my business.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_00: It was my whole personality.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we had a lot of success, but it was so boring.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: And so one of the invitations, and um, perhaps for our listeners today, one of the invitations I give clients often is make a list of things you enjoyed doing as a kid.
• 48:38
  unknown: Yes.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: Whether it was twirling around, making up your own dances.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: I loved to stare at the clouds and like picture the shapes.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_00: I still do that.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_02: We still do too.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um my nails are I asked my nail girl for unicorn nails.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: So they are very fun.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um and dancing around, I mean, dancing around the house.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: I I am a singer.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I did music at theater as a kid.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, having music and dance parties around my house, I I live alone with my dog and I'll use um, you know, whatever's handy as my microphone and I'll do a performance.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's so much fun.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, maybe it's the I was I was just in California a couple a couple days ago, actually, and um I was there with a friend and um we were doing some content, but she said, why don't you skip on the beach?
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, skip on the beach?
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I haven't skipped on the beach in years.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was doing it and it was still fun.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, but this is also hard.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: You have to like get your footing underneath you and everything.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think it's just really connecting back into some of those things that are just fun.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just in the moment, effortless.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_00: You're not even really thinking about it.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I love to dance, and um I've recently gotten back into art and creation and play in that way too.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's been really fun.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: And and it can also be small things too.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's a a puzzle or um, you know, telling a joke or whatever it might be that could be fun.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think the biggest thing is like, what did your what did you as a child, what did you love to do?
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I love to be outside.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_00: I loved animals, I loved dancing and singing.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: I made up a whole song and um I told my grandparents it was in German at the time, but it was not.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_00: But um they believed it and told, told my mom and dad, and it was a whole thing.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, but that's fun, you know?
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um and so get back to more of those things as an adult.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's so freeing to be able to just have fun.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_02: It is, and I think that's a great place to start.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: Of like, what did you love doing as a kid, right?
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_02: And and I talk to a lot of people that I work with from the same perspective, and that's where we start is like, what did you used to do as a kid that you loved doing?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_02: And if someone says, you know, uh, riding a bike or fishing or whatever, it's like go do those things.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_02: And when they start like, oh, but I no, no, no excuses, right?
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_02: You can rent a bike, you can, you know, steal a bike, just kidding.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's I know borrowing borrowing back.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but but no, it is it is those things where it's like, what makes you feel like that?
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: Because then when I when I see them next after that time and they say, I said, did you go for a bike ride or did you go fishing or whatever?
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I have I have grown men that send me pictures of fishing with little eight-year-old smiles on their faces, and I'm like, I love it.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's the shit I'm talking about, right?
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to uh introduce other human beings to their eight-year-old perspectives.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love that.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: Because you get to choose what POV you put, you know, what POV lens you decide you want to engage with this world from.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I just don't think people realize that that's a choice.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, absolutely.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and so it's like if you want to be the person that looks through the negative lens and hold your victim card and say, oh, how how terrible it, you know, your life is and all of the things, listen, everybody has it hard, right?
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_02: They you know, people think that like, oh, because you have money or oh, because you have this or oh, because you have that, it's not hard.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, it's hard for all of us, just so everyone knows.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_02: So go ahead and stop wasting any energy on that and figure out what it is that makes your life a little bit easier for you, a little bit more play, a little bit more fun.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_02: You know, if you have kiddos and and understanding that like having an impromptu dance, you know, party in the kitchen while you guys are doing dishes or whatever, it's like that's the fun.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's life.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we've been we've been given this assignment of um, you know, the house and the 2.3 kids and the perfect job and the fancy car and like all of this shit.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like when you stack all of that stuff up together, what does that get you?
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_02: It makes you realize very quickly that that's not the assignment, you know.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_02: Life has a lot of responsibility.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_02: It is, it's a lot of responsibility that feels like a noose around your neck.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_02: At least that's where I got to, right?
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because I got to this place in my life with my businesses too, where you know, 10 years ago I'm sitting there going, um is this it?
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and I had the fancy house in Paradise Valley and the big co like all the I had all the things.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_02: And it was like, is where do where's the happiness?
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_02: Because that's where I was told this this lived.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_02: And so you work all of this time to get to that place, and it's like, that's not what it's about.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_02: Now the things that are, you know, make me feel rich are time with my family, giggling, um, you know, playing Flip Uno.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_02: And and you know, I mean, just we need to bring game nights back.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, we do.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, think about that.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I look at my my daughters and they talk about bringing their friends together and and you know, playing games and all of that stuff.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_02: Or, you know, we go to comedy clubs quite a bit, like Tempi Improv.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like my I took my 19-year-old son the other day and he's like, What does this cost?
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, 30 bucks.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_02: He goes, 30 bucks for a whole night laughing?
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_02: This is a good investment.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_02: It is a great investment.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: It is a great, I know.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, that is, and it's like, why don't more people, you know, get intentional about doing that kind of stuff?
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_02: Because life is happening right now.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're living a gift right now, you will not get today back.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so when people sit and complain about their lives, it's like, God, you so much wasted potential.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, there's so much wasted potential to be tapped into for stuff.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_00: I know that it is also so much, so many people are stuck in survival mode.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: Just really trying to get to the next, the next day, uh, figuring out so many things.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I know that's challenging, yeah, but gosh, wouldn't it be cool if even after a hard day, maybe you loved working on uh working on your bike as a kid, maybe you you got a bike and you you got to work on it, and then you rode it around as an adult, or you're riding it around with your kids.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because those are the things, you know, that I often, like from my childhood, I I remember a lot of times that we were doing just fun stuff together, laughing, taking a drive.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, some of those those things, they don't cost necessarily, you know, any any money, maybe an investment in time.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, if you're in the car, of course, gas and very tangible things, but um giving yourself just a moment to breathe and be.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_02: And show your kids that.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like go to Target to the game aisle and just pick up an old game that you haven't played in a hundred years.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_02: Because when you see stuff like sorry or, you know, obviously whatever, whatever age-appropriate stuff you have going on with your kids, but it's like, I have a whole game closet at my house.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_02: And when the kids come over, it's like that's what we want to do.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody puts their phone away and we sit and do that.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_02: How beautiful is that, right?
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: Again, not from a perfect place.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's messy.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes we can't get everybody together.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes it's like, oh, we shit the bed and we never get to a game.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_02: We're just talking and hanging out.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like lean into more of those things because I I see these families and it's like everybody's on their own device, you know, out at restaurants.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, figure out how to implement, you know, for us, we do three questions.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, what's the the best part of your day, the worst part of your day?
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_02: And then each, you know, one person will pick whatever the third question is, and we'll go around and talk about that at the dinner table.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, that's the kind of stuff that we need more of that.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_02: We need more human connection.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: We need less of whatever's in your phone.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_02: I guarantee you there's not anything more interesting in there than what happens out in the wild, and you can just go plug into that whenever you want to.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and I know I just I look at people and they're just so twisted up in that grind and the hamster wheel.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I can't I can't do anything to help them get out other than just live this life that I do and and live so free that it makes you question the weight of your own chains.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that's that's what I feel like our mission is after we kind of get out of the out of the hamster hamster wheel ourselves, you know.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_02: Because it does.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's like when you when you're able to help someone and they have that aha moment where they understand and they're able to take control of their own, of their own agency, you know, and understand that they have choice and like all of that.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, does that just like feed your soul?
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it'll bring me to tears.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: So beautiful and so moving.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think about on my journey where I had the same mindset of them or a similar mindset and and the transformation and the power that it gave me to know, oh, I'm actually I'm choosing this.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_00: What if I just make a different choice?
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: So what you just said is so powerful.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_02: I want to come back to that.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm choosing this.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're listening and you're living in this hamster wheel, you're choosing that.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_02: And and it's not a it's not a you know, pointing fingers or any of that.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: But once you realize that you have the control to choose something different, choose something different.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: Just try it.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: Try it on for someone.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, exactly.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why wouldn't you?
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's like if you keep running into a brick wall, go the other way just for a minute.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_02: What does it hurt?
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's like so many people are like, but what if?
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then they fill it in with something from that's fear-based.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I know, but what if it works out?
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_02: How beautiful that is.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, Stephanie, thank you so much for coming and spending time with me today.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_02: I love this.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having me.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_00: Will you please tell our listeners how to connect with you?
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_00: The best way to get in touch with me is on my website at StephanieReal.com.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's R-I-E-L.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then on all social channels, I am I am Stephanie Real.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_00: So you can find me on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, everywhere.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it's all I am Stephanie Real.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: Excellent.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you so much.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_02: So that's a wrap.
• 57:46
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