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- Breaking The Meta: answering to my, to my constituents. One thing that Mark Wayne Mullen, hold on, let me make sure nothing's love. ⁓ Everything good on your side. Everything's good over here. We're all right. ⁓ Hello everyone and welcome to Breaking the Meta. My name is Mike Wins and today we're sitting down with Jasmine Thomas who is running for Senate in Oklahoma. And I am so excited because I am not a big fan of the person that she is running against. So I'm very excited when I found out someone was running against him. Hello, Jasmine. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. I'm really excited to be here so much. ⁓ Normally I would say when I talk to congressional candidates, say, ⁓ give us an idea of what's encompassed in your district, but your district is the entire state, so we don't need to do that part so easy. We'll jump to the next part, which is, ⁓ would you mind giving us a little background on who you are and why you decided to run for Senate in the first place? Yes. So my name is Nakyla Jasmine Thomas, but everyone calls me Jasmine. I am a nurse, active duty military spouse, and I'm a mom. I have two children, one whom has autism. So I am also black, white, Native American. So I see the bigger picture of everyone's fights. I'm a part of the diasporas that have been underserved for so long. And I am APAC and corporate PAC free. So that means that most of my donations come from my community. So that means that I serve my community before I serve the big dogs. So with that being said, that's one of my... biggest platform things is that I take care of my community first and I make sure that my community understands that in so many ways that our current person, and I'm gonna say no names because every time I say his name something starts levitating in my house. It does, it does, it starts levitating. It's like some type of spell type name. That's fair, that's fair. So the man who we do not. We do not say his name around, but that's my whole, that's not my whole platform, but that's just a little bit about me. I've been a military spouse for seven years. My husband's been in for 11 and I have seen the ins and outs of all of the disparities that goes on within not just the military community, but also within the communities in Oklahoma. My community being black and native and also within the disability portion. So. I decided to run because there were so many obstacles that our Oklahomans were facing because we're 50th in education, which is embarrassing by the way. ⁓ We're 49th in healthcare and we're number one in domestic violence. Domestic violence. I tell people that that's because we don't have enough to do. We don't have enough jobs to even provide within our ⁓ job sector. So as you've gone around and talked... to people in Oklahoma, just to give people that may not live there an idea, what are the common pain points of the people of Oklahoma? I know you mentioned a few, but if you could go just maybe a little more into it, ⁓ what those kind of pain points are. Yeah, so healthcare is one of the biggest ones because we are a primarily native state. So what that means is that most of the tribes within their boundaries, they... have jurisdictions which we call normally like I said boundaries, but also ⁓ We're sovereign so they'll have their own health care. They'll have their own government there we go, that's what I was like for their government and They normally serve their tribal members and so we have small health care ⁓ Practices and we have hospitals, but they're closing down because of the lack of federal funding that goes towards ⁓ those hospitals and those care clinics. Oklahoma is one of the biggest utilizers of the ⁓ federal funding, because we're a red state. We don't have enough GDP coming in or out for us to even be able to sustain ourselves. So we utilize those fundings. And with all those fundings going away, or they're being locked out of them, We're seeing our hospitals close, these clinics close, and people who aren't necessarily Native, people don't have access to the Native benefit, they're not going to the doctor, they're not going to get their insulin, they're not going to go get their medications for them to sustain their livelihoods. So we're seeing a lot of the health disparities and we're seeing a lot ⁓ of our education and our kids being mistreated because of what adults are doing. I'm passionate about that. One thing about me is anyone knows that Auntie Senate candidate love the kids. And so our education is so poor and it's not because our teachers don't know what they're doing because I have friends who are teachers and they are incredible people. Known them because we're a small community in Oklahoma. So I've known them the vast majority of my life and I know that they are absolutely passionate about what they do, but they can't get the funding. They're not getting paid for everything that they're doing. to help out these kids. And they're not getting the support from the state. They're not getting the support. And I'm not going to say all parents, but some parents don't ⁓ support the teachers. So they're doing a lot of the things that they're doing for free. And no one's batting an eye about this. Like they're doing afterschool tutoring. They're doing, you know, helping the kids stay eligible for sports. Because one thing about Oklahoma is that they care about sports more than they care about education. And then fair wages, because we can't seem to bring in any opportunities. Yeah. And I'm assuming when you were talking about the health care side of things that the subsidies going away and even the Medicare cuts that are coming from the big, beautiful bill are affecting Oklahoma a lot, especially in rural ⁓ Oklahoma. Yes. ⁓ yes. It's especially the big, beautiful bill because no one ever thinks about the red states. Everyone is just so concerned about what the blue states have going on right now that they're not realizing that We do not have any money to sustain ourselves. So how are we supposed to keep all these things open? Yeah with this big but big beautiful bill budget. It's it's not feasible. Yeah So one of the big problems ⁓ that we are dealing with as a country especially when it comes to politics and we're talking both sides of the aisle in this case is the idea of accountability or the lack thereof ⁓ when it comes to anyone in office really at this point. So my question to you is what does the idea, what does accountability mean to you? How do you see your holding yourself accountable to the people of Oklahoma when you become Senator? to my constituents, one thing that Markway Mullen, hold on, let me make sure nothing's left. ⁓ Everything good on your side. Everything's good over here. We're all right. One thing that he doesn't do is he does not show up to Oklahoma. He has utilized every little bit of federal spending, government, every little bit of the tax dollars that goes into him getting paid for his own self-serving needs. So. He doesn't have to come into Oklahoma. He's told the Oklahomans that he does not have to answer to them. So like at literally at a I want to say like maybe a town hall that was a few years past that he said that they don't pay his bills. We don't pay his bills. And mind you, I'm a constituent, but I wasn't there. Yes. That's what he told them. He told them that they do not pay his bills and that he does not necessarily have to answer to anything that they are asking of him, which is not true. Right. because he gets paid off of our tax dollars. And he's supposed to serve us because he's a what? Public servant. He was elected to do this job and it's like, it's, it's, hold on, I'm looking for the word. I don't know why I keep going blank on these words, I apologize. It's an inconvenience to him. It is an inconvenience to him to actually serve the people who put their trust in him. to elect him to go out and do the right thing if he has not done the right thing for anyone. Now will say what he's really good at is picking fights with union bosses. Everyone talks about that. good at that. Yes, yes. As a man who grew up in Massachusetts watching him go up against a Boston union guy was hilarious to me, no offense. No, my- family that's from Boston. So I know how feisty boss is it Bostonian Bostonian. Yes. Bostonians can be anyway, especially with that cock keys. But no, yes, he, has a big attitude with a small frame. And that's what makes him feel like he's invincible because he, feels like he has ⁓ all these MMA skills or he's been a wrestler his whole life that because he has the physical strength that he has, the emotional or mental strength to even hold this position. And he doesn't. He does not have the emotional or the mental skills to be able to serve the Oklahomans. Because if you had any kind of emotional intelligence, you would have never said, for one, I do not you do not pay my bills. I do not serve you. I have to make sure that Oklahoma is on the right track. OK, well, that last part is true what you're saying. But where is Oklahoma right now? fifth in education. Yeah. And he's pushed a lot of the, I'm sorry, he's pushed a lot of the private schooling. So therefore he's a very religious man. So him going out and him pushing these private schools and then taking the funding out of public schools to fund those, my goodness, those vouchers. Private school vouchers. That's I was about to ask if they private school vouchers. Yes. Sorry that I got ahead of you. just get so passionate about these things. don't get ahead. This is about you. I'm just here to make it possible for people to learn about you. Yeah, but the private schooling, he tried to take all that money or he basically advocated to take that money when we had a different state superintendent over the school, which was Ryan Walsers. Yep. Horrible person, by the way. just so they can teach religion in school. Just so they can teach religion in school when religion was never not accessible in school. Bibles have always been in libraries while I was growing up in school. It's always been there. It was for leisure. It wasn't something that needed to be taught like the Ten Commandments. But nonetheless, his kids don't have to worry about public schooling. Mark Wayne, he doesn't. He, making sure nothing was floating. We're still good. We're still good. He don't have to worry about that because his kids are private schooled themselves and they're getting these here education while our kids are suffering. There should be no reason that we still have kids who can't afford their food at school. There's no reason that there should be a. A child that can't just walk into the cafeteria that may not have all the money at home and they can't get food stamps because we keep getting what resources cut that they can't just go into their school. and get an apple for free. Like, what's up with that? No argument whatsoever. Totally agree. 100 percent. ⁓ So obviously, Oklahoma is at least tends to be viewed as a very red state. Obviously, not everyone in Oklahoma is red, but there are a lot of people at least that consider themselves conservative and red for whatever reason. ⁓ As you walk around and you talk to them, what has your experience been like when you've interacted with someone who considers themselves a Republican and they see a D beside your name. So that's a great question because it's a hit or miss with them. So if we're online, well, they're big, brave and bold, and they're just like, I will never, ever vote for a demon. And they call you every type of name except your government name. I'll never vote for this type of demon craft or demon sh, you know, or They call you the devil. They call you everything but your government name. But when you're in person, and you actually, when I'm in person actually, and I sit down and I actually talk with them and I'm just like, hey, do you realize that your selfishness, and I don't necessarily just say your selfishness, but the selfishness of what our Republicans are doing. And I always lead with that. The Republicans have been in office for 10 plus years. There has not been a Democrat federally. So you cannot blame the Democrats for the downfall that's going on within our state because they haven't been there. so I actually start passionately talking about these things and they start realizing that I'm just a person. I'm just a person that's just passionate about the real things that are going on. You're worried about my guns. You're going to take them away. And I'm just like, no, because we as American citizens also exercise that right. We absolutely own a PPU ourselves. Now, do we just take it out and holster it and just go around and just start? No, but is it an AR-15? Yes. Is it an AR-15? No. Is it an AK-47? No. It's just a hand gun that we have for protection. And we will utilize that if we ever need it. So I'm not going to take away your gun rights if I am registered to have one, if that makes sense. So why would I put my, like that's using logic. Why would I take away my two, why would I take away your two way and then not realize that it's going to mine? Now, do I believe in, hold on, let me go back. Now, do I want gun reform? Absolutely. Percent, no doubt about it. Like I would be, I don't want, always put myself, when I'm in campaign zone, even when I am in Jasmine mode as well, I always put myself in other people's positions. Other moms that have faced the repercussions of people being able to get a hold of guns, right? I don't want my kids to have to go through that. They went through that, so I don't. And that's one of my slogans, is that I went through all the hardships of my life to get where I am right now so you don't have to. And that's how I feel about those families. I feel that those families, they went through those things and they're using their platforms to say, hey, let's stop gun violence. Let's be able to put in stronger placeholders in order for us to be able to keep our kids safe because we're not asking them for anything that's totally out the blue. We're asking them to protect our kids. Kids don't have to be here. So why are we arguing gun reform? when it comes to little minds, little eyes. Why? So that's what I think that I value about myself, even as a person, but also as a candidate, is because I'm so empathetic that I look at everyone's broad view through their lens. try to. And that's what I really, proud of myself for doing. And I think that's what a lot of people actually like about me. and how different my campaign is, is because it's not just one-sided. It's not just my way. It's everyone's way. That's why my campaign is people powered. It's because it's lensed through everyone's eyes. Obviously, for many states, one of which being Oklahoma, the idea of immigration is a big deal, regardless of whether... it's happening the way they believe it's happening, they still feel it. ⁓ How have the people of Oklahoma taken what's going on in Minnesota and Portland and Chicago and all the other cities that things have been going on in? And how would you how do you interact with them? Like how what's your perspective on all of this when you're interacting with them? My campaign and I I'm so proud of what I've built with my campaign because it's brought a lot of people together. There was a lot of people who say like, I'm the only Oklahoma blue dot here. I'm the only person, but then I start, I come out of the blue and I start bringing people together. So now there's hundreds of thousands of people who are Oklahoma blue dots. So I'll give you an example. Few days ago, there was, no, this is like maybe a week ago, actually. There was a, A big, and I wouldn't say hollow blue, but there was a big decision to bring an ICE facility into Oklahoma City. They were gonna put it in this warehouse and this warehouse was built maybe like a year two ago and it has stayed pretty much closed. And they were gonna put it on the south side of Oklahoma City, which is predominantly Hispanic community. We heard about that. And when we heard about that, I mean, people were just like, this is wrong. This is not what we should be. putting in here, we need to be bringing jobs, we need to be bringing actual things of substance instead of trying to put people in cages. I agree, 100%. When I heard about that, I made a video. I made a video that had a call to action. There is a, ⁓ hold on. I said that there is a city council meeting that is coming up on Tuesday, January XYZ. I need you guys to get there. Y'all need to be as loud about the mosque as they were. I'm not the mosque. I'm sorry. Let me go back. So let me just kind of piece this together because I do have to, you know, I'll have to tell you about the mosque. So couple like couple of weeks ago, the Muslim community wanted to build a mosque in Broken Arrow, right? And they had a city council meeting to rezone that is from from what I know. And When I tell you that people were so loud, the right had came out in droves. They said, we don't want to mosque because it's going to do X, Y, A lot of people came up with the most craziest ideas. They said, ⁓ it's going to block a stop sign. ⁓ it's going to, yeah, it's, don't need any more shopping centers. When we knew that the Muslim community was actually doing things outside of just the Muslim community, they were actually helping everyone, right? Sure. They provided healthcare, they provided jobs, they even provided, my goodness, there's a lot of things. I mean, they made sure that they donated back and they put money back into the community. Okay, so fast forward. I told the supporters, I said, they were just as loud as about it. You guys gotta stop, stop being afraid of what they're not afraid of. And they're not afraid to use their voice because they always use it now, don't they? They always do because they stop, ultimately stop that mosque from being, from being built, being rezoned. We can do the same with the ice facility. When I put that call to action out, I'm telling you with me and another person and his name is Fernando. He's an incredible person and he's big within the Hispanic community. He has a huge platform. He would, he would be a really good person to, to interview, even though he's not a politician, but he does a lot of call to actions and he's big within our community. I just wanted to do a little disclaimer with that one. ⁓ But yes, so we together, we made that call to action. They had overflow in the hallway at this city council meeting. People got up and they spoke and they talked about the harms that this would cause to our communities and how it was only three minutes away from a school and now kids can't even come to school. because they're afraid. Parents are afraid to bring their kids to school now. And that's an unfair advantage. That's taking away opportunities from little Oklahomans. We have to think about the broader picture of everything and they never do. They never realize the repercussions that falls behind here. And maybe they do. Maybe they do think about the repercussions because I mean, with the whole private school debacle that was going on. that would have drove people to putting their kids in private schools because private schools don't have as much oversight when it comes to these things. So they can teach their Bible. They can go about, ⁓ you know, telling ICE that they can't come into these facilities or they can do XYZ to these children, like whip them, you know, like I'd say corporal punishment. Is that what it's called? I believe so. Like they can do corporate. I wanted to say corporal. Corporate punishment. I, whatever. It's corporate punishment. Yes. Okay. ⁓ they can, they can just let kids go out of these schools and these kids won't get the education that they deserve. This is America. This is America. Why are we having to fight our governments? That's a great question, Jasmine. That's a great question. When I've been asking for a long time, it, yeah. ⁓ I appreciate that. And that's awesome that that your community is coming out. It's great seeing communities across the question. Yeah. No, I mean, that's great. That's perfect. Like I said, this idea is to help give people an idea of where you stand and what and what your values are. So that's perfect. ⁓ Obviously, also, ⁓ a lot has happened over the last year regarding the United States and. and ⁓ our foreign policies, whether we're talking tariffs, whether we're talking Venezuela, whether we're talking Greenland. ⁓ The last 80 years of the United States being at the head of the table ⁓ have pretty well been damaged, if not will be destroyed by the time this administration ⁓ leaves. How do you see America's place on the world stage going forward? with new leadership or as it stands now? like once the president is gone or once this administration is gone, how do you see America's place and even what is necessary to get back to be a part of the world stage? Because regardless of what this administration thinks, there is a supreme lack of trust and loss of respect for America as a whole. Because not only is this administration doing horrible things, but 77 million people voted to put this administration in and do a lot of these horrible things. there's a lot of fixing that's going to happen. So what do you see as part of the process of making that happen. Because if you become senator, you will still be senator after this president is out and you'll have to be part of fixing that. Yeah. So we don't want to go back to what America was once before. We want to structure and I'm in a coalition with so many people who are running for different positions within their communities, their state, know, whatever. We all are cohesively coming up with all these plans as to how we want to change the narrative and the dialogue in America. And we all can come to the mutual agreement that we don't want to go back to what it once was. This was our way of actually getting serious and actually saying, ⁓ my gosh, it's time for us to get that American dream that we were promised as children. what is the American dream? Let me ask you a question. What was the American dream that we were promised? ⁓ work hard, have a home, have a family. So white picket dance, right? Two, a dog, two kids or three. Right, 2.1 kids we always joked. 2.1. Where does the point one come from? I'm just joking. No, but yes. So we were, and to have, you know, two cars in your driveway, to have, you know, the fancy GE appliances that the trad wife can clean up, you know, like the woman stays home and the man goes out to work, right? That's kind of what the American dream was. But that's not what public schooling really instilled in the girls. Put girls in education, you know, put them in a room to be educated so they can go on and they can also be, you know, the breadwinners right along with their husbands because the whole trad wife thing was... Yep. Not in the 21st century. With that being said, we don't want to go back to that. We want to build a whole new dream. We want to build a dream where we have universal health care and it's funded. We want to make sure that there's universal child care and it's funded by us. We want to make sure that we still have the safeguards in place where if we need access to ⁓ healthy foods, food, SNAP benefits. or we need something such as, ⁓ my gosh, we need something such as down payment assistance on a house, we wanna work with that. We wanna be able to have a collective voice as well, such as citizens' impeachment, which I'm a part of. I'm part of their coalition and I'm endorsed by them and we wanna be able to have a say so in whether we get to impeach our elected officials or not. And I think that that is... the biggest thing of what America is going to look like. not, we're going to be able to have a say so, let me, okay. We're going to have a say so and how our government runs and not just the house and the Senate being able to make those decisions because we, the people, they are a part of the collective, the house and the Senate, they're part of the we, the people, but they don't make, they shouldn't be able to make all of the decisions based off of how we feel because right now, We're picking up the phone and we're calling all of our senators. We're calling our representatives and guess what? They're not answering. They don't answer to us. They've made that clear. So now we want to build a government that works for the people. And going forward, we're not going to have a president that thinks he's above everybody. We're going to have a president who's going to look at the collective of people and say, I was one of you at one point in time, so I understand. We're not going to keep electing billionaires. We're going to take money out of politics because money is the root of all evil when it comes to politics. I cannot stress that enough. There is not a reason why elections should not be federally funded either. Where they can make it easy. We're going to be able to, in the future, be able to make it a ranked choice for people instead of two party systems because our party systems are failing us. They felt us on the daily and I hate to say that, but I'm a person that's straightforward with a lot of things that I say. Absolutely. We need to be picking the people and not the party. So that's what a future kind of looks like for America because when we think, when we're thinking and we're in our coalitions and we're talking about all these things we want to do, such as making sure that housing is affordable, veterans aren't on the streets. struggling with mental health problems and they're homeless because our government won't help those that served us but it's We've got a lot of work to do the thing is is that this much work? Yes, if we just would have went In like let's say when Kamala had ⁓ if she had gotten elected, right then we there's no guarantee that everything would have changed But I mean she had some great policies that she wanted to implement. I was a huge Kamala fan and so She had all these things, but the thing is, is that that was going to hurt our homeless community, our underserved communities more than it was going to actually boost them up and push them out. Like we need to start from the ground up and that's what this new generation of politicians are trying to do. We don't actually want to be politicians. We want to be people with big voices that speak on behalf of our communities. Yeah. Yeah. I've definitely noticed that a lot of the people running are like, I don't want to do this. But I felt the need to do this. I felt the calling to do this. Yeah. It is. And I'm glad that that's brought up within all of our communities because the thing is, is that this is tedious work. This is not something that we absolutely just felt like this is like a walk in a park. It's not. This has been one of the hardest things. Mind you, I've given birth twice. Both hard. But this is why I'm going, and I went through nursing school. Not easy. That's a feat in itself, you know? This is hard. This is hard having to reach 77 counties. This is a hard reach on kuka shells because Oklahoma is detrimentally, and I'm not going to say poor because we're not poor. We just don't have a GDP that or jobs. Yeah. ⁓ But we are absolutely one of the poorest states. I'll say that just to be politically correct. So not everyone has the money to fund this thing. So me getting out and meeting people where they're at and taking $5, $10 and trying to make that stretch to feed my team, because I don't even have a professional team. And I say they're professional in my view. And they're probably professional to everyone else. But these are people who started out as volunteers that just turned into staff because they started making things shape within this, within this campaign. Absolutely. These people don't ask for anything. They don't ask for money. They don't ask for big cars. They don't ask for a place in my administration once I win, if I can call it administration. You know, they don't, they don't ask for these things. But the thing is, that I make sure that they're taken care of at all costs before myself. I make sure that they have gas in their cars because of that little five, $10, $15 that I get. And I say little, but it's a big impact. But it's not, you know, the max amount. It's not $3,500 here in Oklahoma where I can just keep the literature printed. We have to make sure that literature is printed. We have to make sure that we get little increments because we're frugal around here. Frugal is hell. Excuse my language. And we have to be because we're showing how one, responsible we can be. Fiscally, mean, I say fiscally, but financially responsible because we've seen a lot of people who weren't financially responsible in ⁓ their campaigns, but we're also showing people that it's possible to work on a budget without it being a million to $7 million. ⁓ It's worked, but it's also very, very concerning for me because some people are asking for yard signs. They want to get ahead of this. They want to make sure that They have, they're showing their support in so many ways, but a lot of people just can't afford those things. So they're so used to them getting handed to them or, you know, asking for these things where it's like, now you're asking for these things just for a donation and they can't show the support that they want to because my community is my billboards. They are my billboards. Yeah. They're my word of mouth. Which is one of the reasons that, that we're trying to do what we're doing on this podcast is to help people that are trying to do it the right way, trying to do it the grassroots way that don't have that corporate PAC money making them. Well now, and I see why no random person was ever just putting their hat in the ring. Because there's not enough resources for them to throw their hat in the ring. Because one, luckily I'm not working right now because I'm full-time campaigning. And to be on this trail, you cannot really have a job and also get out in the community and meet people where they're at. Get out and ask for donations, hold fundraisers, meet and greets, things like that. There's not enough time in the world to take care of a family, campaign, work, and also be there for your community. So I think that this was actually a good time in life for me to actually... throw my hat in the ring because I wasn't currently working and I have a spouse that absolutely is able to take care of the kids on his own when I have to go away, you know, or he's able to hold down our housing. He's able to put food on the table. A lot of people don't have that, so they can't just give up everything and say, I'm gonna run for office, but I have to juggle X, Y, Z. Now, do we struggle because I don't have... a job on the side, absolutely too, because I don't get paid from the funding that comes from the campaign. Because if my staff doesn't get paid first, I'm not getting paid. That money is not mine. That money is going to go to them once we ever get to a certain amount that we can actually pay my staff out, because they've put everything on the line to make sure that this campaign has been successful as it has been. Yeah. So let's do a little future casting. Okay. You get through the general election, you beat that guy whose name we won't say. January comes, you get sworn in. What's the first thing you do? Go to sleep for 12 hours. Okay, then what's the second thing you do? ⁓ that's a good question because there's so many things because I really So my grandma is still alive and she's my best girl and she's retired. And I really just want to go out and get her a new car. She deserves a new car because once she raised me, she made sure I was good. She's gotten me to this point where I'm just 10 toes down about everything that I say, where I'm just so strict. And I like to say that I'm like Judge Judy strict. She really painted what the next generation is going to look like. And so I do, I want to go out and I want to buy her a new car because hers is so broken down and raggedy. She's had it for almost 20 years now. So it's been giving her problems. I want to give back to her, but I also want to have a party for my community. I want to put on the biggest block party that anyone has ever seen. And I want to make sure that it is in, it is in our real place. ⁓ Everyone, our rural communities are coming, our urban, suburban, everyone's coming. And I want us to celebrate that we finally all came together. We stopped being disengaged. We stopped being apathetic because Oklahoma has one of the lowest voter turnouts. We do. And that's because no one ever believed that their voice matters. then... When people went to that meeting that I was talking about with the ICE and trying to stop the ICE facility, the mayor came out the next day and was like, we're not zoning for this. I've talked to the owners. They're actually going to give up the place. And we don't have to worry about this. That was community action. That was your voice in action. So now that you see that your voice works, let's change. Let's turn out midterms. Let's show them that we mean business this time. We let them speak for us for so long and that's just not going to happen anymore. Yeah. That's awesome. Simple as that. I love it. Let's have a party. When you win, I'll fly down to Oklahoma and party with you. Yes. Yes, please. If anybody is interested in learning more about you and supporting you, whether volunteering or financial, where can they find you? So you can find me at www.JasmineFOR. ⁓ and there you will find our volunteer forms, will find donation forms and you'll also find our merch forms, but you'll also find out a lot about me. You'll even find out my history, my background and what I actually stand for because I stand for a lot because in this day and age, civil rights is huge to me. Making sure that people are treated fairly and equally is what's on the ballot. So please check that out. Please see where I come from with a lot of my policies and legislation that I want to implement because I have a lot. And if you really, really want to go into depth with me, please follow me on Facebook because we go into depth about a lot of things. And I actually take a lot of my policies and legislation that I actually implement on my website and that I'm going to fight for from my community. My community is telling me how we should do things. They have incredible ideas. So find me there. You can also email. The email is also at inquiry at jazm4ok. If you want to, you know, talk about anything, get me out to meet, or if you just want to basically show your support in writing, because that's what I need sometimes. And I also want to make this disclaimer as well, is that snail mail. Please send your candidates snail mail. Send them donations. but also send them snail mail letting them know how much you support them, regardless if you're in their district, their state, even the country. If you send them snail mail and let them know that there's so much support and that you believe in them and that they're gonna go far, do you realize how big that is to us? We are absolutely at wit's end most of time. But when we see little comments or we see little messages or mail pieces, pieces of mail that says like, keep going. That pushes us so far. Jasmine, thank you so much for spending some time with us. Thank you for everyone who listened this far. We really appreciate you. Make sure you hit all those buttons below comments, all the stuff, help push this out. What the whole purpose of doing this is to help ⁓ help visibility for all of these people that ⁓ aren't doing things like taking pack money, aren't are doing things like running grassroots that want real change. They need visibility. They need name recognition. And when they're not getting millions of dollars, the best thing that you can do is help spread their word through social media in some way, or form. So please engage with this, engage with all of the people that we're talking with, engage with their social medias after. It really does help. ⁓ And for those of you that may be new to this podcast, just so you know, we are all about having hard conversations. We're all about ⁓ breaking the meta. We're all about living life and pushing for the idea that all people, no matter your race, religion, gender, or identity, deserve rights, respect, dignity, and safety. And that's something we will continue to push for. So again, Jasmine, thank you for being here. I really do appreciate it. And everyone else will see you next time on Breaking the Meta. Bye, guys. Bye.