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Speaker 1: It really feels like it came out of nowhere, and
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Speaker 1: then also the dismissal kind of feels like it came
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Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Like we came in real hot and fiery,
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Speaker 1: and then it just kind of quietly washed away.
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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. We'll get into my conversation with Evan Real
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Speaker 2: right after these quick ads. Welcome to Reality with the King.
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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
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Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a
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Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with
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Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows,
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Speaker 2: and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and
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Speaker 2: tweeting about. Hey, rain Drops. Today's guests on Reality with
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Speaker 2: the King is my friend and journalist Evan Real from
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Speaker 2: The New York Post. Today we're talking about Nini Leaks,
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Speaker 2: who recently dismissed her lawsuit. Now, I know you guys
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Speaker 2: haven't asked me tons of questions about this particular situation,
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Speaker 2: and because I'm too close to it in terms of
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Speaker 2: knowing everybody involved, I never felt it was comfortable or
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Speaker 2: write for me to talk about it. You know, there's
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Speaker 2: some things that I think are off limits, and when
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Speaker 2: something like this happens, I think it's best for things
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Speaker 2: to play out on its own. I never wanted to
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Speaker 2: make light of this situation or do it for you know,
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Speaker 2: the podcast, just to have a conversation. I never wanted
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Speaker 2: to do that. So the reason why I've been quiet
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Speaker 2: about it in the sense of just not sharing my
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Speaker 2: opinion is because I felt, out of respect to all
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Speaker 2: parties involved, it was better us to see how things
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Speaker 2: played out first. And now that we see that the
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Speaker 2: lawsuit that she filed against the network and people has prejudice.
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Speaker 2: Now what does this mean for the future of Meini Leaks. Well, today,
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Speaker 2: ME and Evan Real are going to get into that conversation.
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Speaker 2: We all are fans of Nini Leaks and want her
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Speaker 2: back on television. We recently saw her star on the
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Speaker 2: College Here Reboot Celebrity Edition on BET and if you
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Speaker 2: watched it, it reminded you of how Nini is just
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Speaker 2: great television and how funny she is and how great
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Speaker 2: she is. So this conversation today, yes, we're going to
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Speaker 2: shed light on how this lawsuit became dismissed. But we're
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Speaker 2: also going to talk about the state of Nini Leaks
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Speaker 2: as a force multiplier in reality te television, and now
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Speaker 2: that this situation has seemed to come to an end,
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Speaker 2: where does that take Memi Leaks? So, without further ado,
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Speaker 2: here's my conversation with Eban Real. We got to talk
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Speaker 2: about my girl, who I called the greatest housewife of
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Speaker 2: all time number one, Meani Leaks, and the lawsuit that
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Speaker 2: was dropped recently, which to me, I'm like, okay, is
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Speaker 2: this a good sign for things to come? But I
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Speaker 2: cannot do this episode alone. So I decided to bring
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Speaker 2: on my friend who also has been covering this story
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Speaker 2: as a reporter, a journalist, and a correspondent for The
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Speaker 2: New York Post. I'm talking about every reality star's favorite journalist,
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Speaker 2: Evan Rel.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Carlos King, the king of reality TV.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for that glowing introduction.
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Speaker 1: It is an absolute honor to be here today and
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Speaker 1: talked about your favorite housewife of all time, Needy Leaks.
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Speaker 2: I know I can't wait to get into this. So
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Speaker 2: one thing about me. When this lawsuit first came about,
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Speaker 2: I respectfully never talked about it because it's such a
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Speaker 2: sensitive topic that I didn't want me, somebody who knows
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Speaker 2: all parties involved, to make lights of this serious issue.
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Speaker 2: I mean, any lawsuit, child is serious. I don't care
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Speaker 2: what's in it. If you've got time to go down
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Speaker 2: to the court, child to not get married like Jalo
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Speaker 2: and Ben the Justice of the piece, but you're going
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Speaker 2: down to to file something, honey. I take it seriously,
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Speaker 2: and I never wanted to mimic it or sound like
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Speaker 2: I was making fun of it. So that's why, guys,
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Speaker 2: my listeners, I have never talked about it. But now
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Speaker 2: that it's been dropped, in the words of Lisa Rena,
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Speaker 2: you best believe in talk about it. So Evan, this
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Speaker 2: is what we know, Okay. So at the end of
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Speaker 2: the day, what we know is the lawsuit was originally
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Speaker 2: filed in April of twenty twenty two in an Atlanta
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Speaker 2: federal court, where Nini Leased claimed she worked in a
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Speaker 2: hostile and racist environment. She sued NBC, Universal, Bravo Production Companies,
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Speaker 2: True Entertainment and Truly Original, and Andy Cohen, who was
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Speaker 2: all named in the suit. So before we get into
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Speaker 2: the fact that this lawsuit was dropped, talk to me
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Speaker 2: about what you learned the moment it was filed back
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Speaker 2: in April.
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Speaker 1: Well, I was just so shocked to learn that Nini
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Speaker 1: felt this way about the production companies, about Bravo, about
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Speaker 1: Andy Cohen, because you know, she is one of the
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Speaker 1: greatest housewives of all time.
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Speaker 3: She truly put Atlanta on the map.
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Speaker 1: I would say that she kind of put housewives on
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Speaker 1: the map in a way like to me, Nini Lakes,
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Speaker 1: this is just my personal opinion, taking off my journalist hat.
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Speaker 1: She is more iconic than Bethany Frankel. She is more
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Speaker 1: iconic than Lisa vander Pump. She is to me, like
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Speaker 1: like you, she is the most iconic housewife of all times.
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Speaker 1: So I was just shocked that there was something going
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Speaker 1: on with her and the production company and Andy and
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Speaker 1: Bravo that was not so great. So that's first and
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Speaker 1: foremost what I learned. And then I also learned that
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Speaker 1: Bravo and Andy they were absolutely blindsided by this because
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Speaker 1: even though you know, Nini had she'd been implying things
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Speaker 1: on social media for a while that she wasn't happy
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Speaker 1: with the network, she wasn't happy with Andy Cohen. But
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Speaker 1: I know that she and Andy were so close at
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Speaker 1: one point, So Andy and Bravo. They were absolutely blindsided
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Speaker 1: by this. So I think that it's really interesting that
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Speaker 1: it has been dropped. I mean, she was really like
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Speaker 1: standing in her conviction that she was like mistreated during
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Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Atlanta and Carlos. It took everything
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Speaker 1: inside of me not to give you a call about
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Speaker 1: this because you.
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Speaker 3: Could have been an incredible source. You probably know way
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Speaker 3: more than I do. So yeah, it was.
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Speaker 1: It was just a wild ride covering this whole situation
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Speaker 1: tops to bottom. And so now I'm glad that you're
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Speaker 1: finally talking about it because I feel like you probably
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Speaker 1: have the most meaningful perspective that anyone could, being a
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Speaker 1: friend of Nini, working on the show, working with the
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Speaker 1: production companies, knowing Andy quite well.
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Speaker 2: Now, Evan, this one was so interesting about this? I
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Speaker 2: a in real life in friends with Niini. Like Nani
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Speaker 2: and I have a great relationship. Yes, she and I
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Speaker 2: have had ups and downs and we have falling out.
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Speaker 2: I'm still blocked on Twitter, Nini. I mean, can you
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Speaker 2: please unblock me? Girl? I've been blocked Nani since season seven.
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Speaker 2: Damn that long. Please unblock me, Nini? Yeah, what happened?
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Speaker 2: What happened?
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Speaker 3: Season seven?
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Speaker 2: Ah, well, let's okay, let's I'll ask it that out
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Speaker 2: and then we'll get back into the topic at hand.
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Speaker 2: So I think people need to be reminded that Nini
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Speaker 2: Leets and I started out Real Housewives of Atlanta together,
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Speaker 2: she as a reality star and me as my first
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Speaker 2: time producing reality television. So we were both newbies the
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Speaker 2: first day of filming season one of the show, and
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Speaker 2: I was assigning leagues and the rest is history. Like
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Speaker 2: we just became bosom buddies. People would call us Will
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Speaker 2: and Grace. That's how close Nini and I were. Social
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Speaker 2: media started to happen around season four, but during season seven,
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Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan comes on the show. And the reason why
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Speaker 2: I brought up social media is because that's when you
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Speaker 2: started to see the stand culture that is housewives. I mean, now, honey,
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Speaker 2: that stand culture for housewives is severe up in here.
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Speaker 2: So mind you, seven years ago, it was just starting
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Speaker 2: to percolate where people would make these ridiculous accusations and
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Speaker 2: a lot of people said that I because of course
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Speaker 2: they think I have all the power. A lot of
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Speaker 2: people thought that I hire Claudia to single handily come
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Speaker 2: for Nini, and long story short, Nini would say things
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Speaker 2: and interviews about Claudia and I did an interview on
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Speaker 2: The Ricky Smiley Show where I said, like, Claudia is
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Speaker 2: a great housewife. She and Nini got this epic showdown.
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Speaker 2: They read each other like Claudia is great and Nini
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Speaker 2: leaks was on the radio and somebody asked her about
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Speaker 2: it and she made a shady comment towards me, But
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Speaker 2: that's Nini, so I took it as fun shade. But
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Speaker 2: apparently she blocked me and we didn't speak for a
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Speaker 2: few months. But that's who me and Nini are. Like
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Speaker 2: when Nini is mad, she'll block you, but then she unblock. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: I've been blocked for seven years. But we're good.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, do you know what people?
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Speaker 1: I feel like Twitter doesn't even matter, Like if she
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Speaker 1: blocked you on Instagram, that matters, you know.
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Speaker 2: Oh see that's okay. We still follow each other on Instagram,
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Speaker 2: so that's a good thing. So, unlike what other people say,
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Speaker 2: me and Nini do have a relationship. Ha. So look.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that was interesting when all of
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Speaker 2: this came about is I was surprised too when news
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Speaker 2: came about this lawsuit, did not see it coming, Yes,
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Speaker 2: ev when you're right in the sense of you know,
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Speaker 2: there was a little stuff percolating here and there, but
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Speaker 2: I didn't think it would go that far when it
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Speaker 2: did happen. And this is me telling you guys the truth.
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Speaker 2: I did not reach out to Nini in the sense
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Speaker 2: to talk to her about that specifically, because I respectfully
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Speaker 2: wanted her and the rest of the people who I
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Speaker 2: know to deal with that. I didn't want any involvement
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Speaker 2: in it. I wasn't named in it. Child, And in
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Speaker 2: the words of my old school grandmama and Proverbs three sixteen,
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Speaker 2: my name is Bennett and I'm not in it. I
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Speaker 2: didn't want no parts of it. But I did reach
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Speaker 2: out to Needy and say to her, you know, I
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Speaker 2: love you. I'm always here for you if you need anything.
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Speaker 2: And that was the extent of the conversation when it
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Speaker 2: was filed.
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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, okay, So your respect in Nini's space and boundaries.
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Speaker 1: But what did you think of Kim being named in
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Speaker 1: the lawsuit? I mean, you were in the trenches with
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Speaker 1: these women, you know how Kim and Neini are together.
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Speaker 1: Did you ever feel like there was any validity to
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Speaker 1: the things that Nini was claiming about Kim. I know
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Speaker 1: Kim came on The Nightcap and she said that Nini
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Speaker 1: knows what she said, isn't sure and that it's ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: What's your take on it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the thing. So again I didn't read
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Speaker 2: the entire document because I wanted to make sure I
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Speaker 2: stay farm away from it. But from my understanding, and Evan,
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Speaker 2: you tell me if this was included, but I believe
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Speaker 2: what was included was Kim allegedly using the N word.
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Speaker 2: And all I can say to you guys is I
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Speaker 2: never heard Kim say that, and if I did, I
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Speaker 2: would have never invited Kim on my late night show,
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Speaker 2: The Nightcap. And if the other women, meaning Deshauncenow, Lisa
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Speaker 2: Wu and Scharrey Whitfield, would have heard that, I don't
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Speaker 2: think they too would be around Kim. So based on
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Speaker 2: my relationship with Kim, I never heard it. And that's
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Speaker 2: the reason why I wanted to make sure that Kim
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Speaker 2: had the opportunity to say what she wanted to say.
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Speaker 2: And what she did say was when she's finished with
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Speaker 2: them is when I will start with her something along
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Speaker 2: those lines. So the jury no pun intended it's still
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Speaker 2: out as it relates to what Kim Zosiak is going
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Speaker 2: to do. But knowing that the lawsuit has been dismissed, right,
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Speaker 2: what have you been hearing Eva in terms of the
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Speaker 2: reasons behind this dismissal.
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Speaker 1: So the reasons remain are pretty unclear. No one seems
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Speaker 1: to have a grasp why it was dismissed. But it
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Speaker 1: was dismissed without prejudice, which means that she can reopen
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Speaker 1: it at a later date if she chooses to do so.
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Speaker 1: The parties involved in the case also agreed to not
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Speaker 1: seek recovery of costs or attorney fees, so it kind
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Speaker 1: of seems like both like all parties are just walking
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Speaker 1: away from this situation unscathed. It doesn't seem like Nini
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Speaker 1: received any sort of settlement outside of court. It just
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Speaker 1: kind of feels like they all decided to table this conversation.
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Speaker 1: I definitely don't think that the production companies in Brava
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Speaker 1: want to revisit this conversation, but the way it was
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Speaker 1: dismissed leaves the opportunity for Nini to revisit this in the.
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Speaker 3: Future, which I hope she doesn't.
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Speaker 1: I just hope we were all able to have some
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Speaker 1: sort of like secret peace meeting where everything was hashed
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Speaker 1: out and everyone's relationship is good right now, because I
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Speaker 1: want Nini to have the opportunity and ability to return
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Speaker 1: to the franchise in the future. I am hoping that
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Speaker 1: this was dismissed because there was an agreement made, there
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Speaker 1: was a reconciliation, and now Nini is back in the
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Speaker 1: good graces of Bravo and Andy Cohen. And I also
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Speaker 1: hope that you know, whatever Nini was feeling, because I
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Speaker 1: obviously she went through some sort of trouble and she
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Speaker 1: is upset over something. I hope that those concerns were
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Speaker 1: addressed and that they validated whatever issues she did experience
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Speaker 1: on the Real Housewives of Atlanta and throughout her time
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Speaker 1: on Bravo.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's the thing. A lot of people have
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Speaker 2: made the assumption that was their settlement, and from what
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Speaker 2: you said and from what I read, I mean, listen,
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Speaker 2: I'm not a lawyer. I work with one by the
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Speaker 2: name of Phaedra Parks, so I'll try to figure out,
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Speaker 2: you know, exactly what the legal language is the situation.
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Speaker 2: But according to the dismissal, apparently it means that because
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Speaker 2: she has the right to fall again. Then it goes
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Speaker 2: to show you that more than likely a settlement would
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Speaker 2: not have been reached, because if you're going to reach
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Speaker 2: a settlement, then more than likely, from the legal terms
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Speaker 2: and the legal ease that I have learned, they would
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Speaker 2: have never paid Nini off and allow her to fill again.
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Speaker 2: And that's the reason why I agree with you in
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Speaker 2: the sense of Look, the question still remains if we
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Speaker 2: believe that Nini Leaks can ever return to Bravo. That
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Speaker 2: remains the question now that this lawsuit has been dropped
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Speaker 2: and or dismissed. So my question to you, Evan, as
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Speaker 2: a Housewives connoisseur, as a lover of all things housewives,
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Speaker 2: and a journalist, do you think Niemi Lee's future on
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Speaker 2: Bravo is forever? Did?
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Speaker 1: I would like to think that the way that this
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Speaker 1: case or this lawsuit has been dismissed leaves hope for
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Speaker 1: her future on Bravo. But I do think that she
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Speaker 1: has muddied the waters a little bit. So if she
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Speaker 1: ever does return, we're gonna have to jump through this hurdle.
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Speaker 1: She's gonna have to address this and all of her
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Speaker 1: interviews about coming back. There's gonna have to be some
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Speaker 1: sort of like communications pr strategy put in place. It
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Speaker 1: would be like a lot of work, I think on
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Speaker 1: both ends for her to read. I think that she
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Speaker 1: needs to make peace with the feelings that she has
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Speaker 1: about her initial run on Housewise, I think that Bravo
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Speaker 1: has to take into consideration all the things that she
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Speaker 1: has said on Twitter, in court documents and figure out
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Speaker 1: how do we make this make sense, like we are
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Speaker 1: welcoming back Nini to the Bravo verse after she has
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Speaker 1: very heartily trashed the network. I think it would be
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Speaker 1: a lot of work, but I think it could happen.
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Speaker 1: And I think that Nini is such a powerhouse and
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Speaker 1: has that incredible star power that is obviously a value,
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Speaker 1: and I think that Bravo would put in the work
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Speaker 1: to have her come back.
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Speaker 3: Maybe I was a wishful thinking, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: This is my dream.
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Speaker 3: This is my dream.
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Speaker 1: My dream is that Nini does come back, and that
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Speaker 1: Bravo figures out how to tell the story of her
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Speaker 1: coming back and rejoining this group of women. Because as
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Speaker 1: much as I'm loving Atlanta this season, and I have
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Speaker 1: loved all the seasons without Nini, I love it better
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Speaker 1: when she's part of it.
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Speaker 2: No listen, I love Mimi, and again, Nini and I
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Speaker 2: are still cool. I did invite Nini on my late
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Speaker 2: night show, The Nightcap, and just to talk about that
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Speaker 2: a little bit, and then I'll answer the question as
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Speaker 2: well in terms of what I think about her future
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Speaker 2: on Bravo. But when I reached out to Nini to
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Speaker 2: appear on The Nightcap, I never told any of those
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Speaker 2: original housewives that I was going to invite the other
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Speaker 2: on the show. I wanted it to be a surprise
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Speaker 2: to all of them because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: I am a producer, so of course I have to
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Speaker 2: produce this iconic moment of getting my ogs back together
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Speaker 2: that I work with season one of the Atlanta Housewives show.
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Speaker 2: So when I reached out to Nimi, she kindly declined
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Speaker 2: and said that based on what she's going through, she
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Speaker 2: wasn't at the right place to do interviews. And I
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Speaker 2: respected that because she followed the lawsuit in April and
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Speaker 2: we taped that episode of my late night show in May,
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Speaker 2: so it was still fresh and she didn't want to
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Speaker 2: deal with it, and I respected that. So that was
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Speaker 2: the only reason why she did not show up. And
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Speaker 2: know she did not show up because she knew the
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Speaker 2: other women were going to be there. None of them
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Speaker 2: knew that the other was going to be there. I
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Speaker 2: wanted it to be a surprise, so I wanted to
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Speaker 2: address that first because I just want people to know
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Speaker 2: that she and I are in a good place. Now,
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Speaker 2: let's talk about her fate on the network. If you
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Speaker 2: look at historically, when an employee files a lawsuit against
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Speaker 2: a former employer, right and makes claims of a hostile environment.
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Speaker 2: So let's say in this case, Sally Ann decided to
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Speaker 2: sue Walmart because she felt that Walmart was a hostile
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Speaker 2: work environment. Right. The question that I have, because I
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Speaker 2: want to be realistic and fair and honest, do you
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Speaker 2: think Walmart will hire Sally Ann, asked back after she
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Speaker 2: made these accusations.
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, now that you put it that way, Carlos, Okay, yes,
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Speaker 1: Walmart's not gonna take her back. Probably ninety nine percent
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Speaker 1: chance she's not coming back to Walmart. And so yeah,
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Speaker 1: maybe Nini won't come back to Bravo. But you know,
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Speaker 1: you make that comparison of Sally Ann and Walmart. But
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Speaker 1: you you've also you've worked on these shows for so long,
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Speaker 1: you know how the network works, you know how the
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Speaker 1: production companies work.
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Speaker 3: Like if you had to guess, like taking that.
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Speaker 1: Into consideration, what is the percentage that you think Nini
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Speaker 1: would come back?
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Speaker 2: Well, this is the other side to my question that
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Speaker 2: I'm going to answer too. If Sally Ann, by the way,
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Speaker 2: Sally Ann is forty six, she lives in Idaho, and
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Speaker 2: she binges Indian matchmaker. So that's who Sally Ann is. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I got to pay the picture for my audience.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So she's not a star like Nini.
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Speaker 2: No, she's Sally you know, she's at home.
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Speaker 3: The difference, there's a difference.
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Speaker 2: There is a difference. Okay. So if Sally n is
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Speaker 2: making these accusations, why would Sally Ann want to go
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Speaker 2: back to the institution that she felt was a househole
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Speaker 2: work environment? So it kind of goes hand in hand.
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Speaker 2: Would you want to hire back the employee that made
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Speaker 2: these accusations and that's the employee? Do you want to
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Speaker 2: go back to the job where you said it was toxic?
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Speaker 2: So that's why I like to look at things from
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Speaker 2: a realistic standpoint and from the standpoint of something to
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Speaker 2: where my large audience of listeners are able to understand
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Speaker 2: and now that I said that, this is how I feel.
21:47
Speaker 2: I adore Nini. I want Niini to win in every
21:55
Speaker 2: single place in her life, and I mean that wholeheartedly.
21:58
Speaker 2: I made her the number one greatest housewife of all time,
22:03
Speaker 2: not because of our friendship, but because she deserved the crown,
22:07
Speaker 2: and she, to me, is the best that's ever done it.
22:11
Speaker 2: Now that this situation has been dismissed, I'm not sure
22:16
Speaker 2: what the future holds for Nini on the network because
22:21
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I haven't spoken to
22:24
Speaker 2: her about what she wanted to get out of it.
22:27
Speaker 2: I don't know, and it's not my place to ask her.
22:30
Speaker 2: But as someone who is in this business and as
22:35
Speaker 2: someone who knows our parties involved, I was very sad
22:40
Speaker 2: that it got to that because one thing I've always
22:43
Speaker 2: said is there was this amazing, loving relationship that Nini
22:48
Speaker 2: and Andy had that I've seen with these eyeballs, like
22:52
Speaker 2: he was enamored by her and vice versa. She would
22:57
Speaker 2: call him her buttercup, and they just had like this
23:00
Speaker 2: great rapport and I would see that whenever Andy would
23:03
Speaker 2: come to Atlanti to take reunions and during commercial breaks,
23:07
Speaker 2: they had a good old key key so it was
23:10
Speaker 2: sad to see that it got to that. And listen,
23:12
Speaker 2: one thing that I said to Nini is, at the
23:15
Speaker 2: end of the day, I don't know what it's like
23:17
Speaker 2: to walk in your shoes, so I'm not here to
23:19
Speaker 2: ever say what your experience is like in life in general.
23:23
Speaker 2: I'm not you. But the only thing I can say
23:27
Speaker 2: to you is that I just want you to be
23:29
Speaker 2: happy and I want you to win. And does that
23:32
Speaker 2: mean that her being happy and going back to the
23:36
Speaker 2: show makes her win? I'm not sure. I think, in
23:41
Speaker 2: my opinion, the best thing for Nimi is to take
23:45
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks to really figure things out,
23:48
Speaker 2: because she is such a formidable talent that I think
23:53
Speaker 2: the world has yet to see what she's capable of doing,
23:57
Speaker 2: and I really want her to get back to being
24:02
Speaker 2: this funny, whimsical personality that we fell in love with
24:07
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 3: Yes to all of that, I agree.
24:12
Speaker 1: And that's an interesting point that you bring up, Like,
24:15
Speaker 1: of course you don't need you to win, but is
24:17
Speaker 1: it on Bravo?
24:18
Speaker 3: Like maybe not?
24:19
Speaker 1: Like maybe the next chapter for her is bigger than Bravo,
24:22
Speaker 1: Like maybe coming back to Bravo would feel like a
24:25
Speaker 1: step back for her. The one thing that I find
24:27
Speaker 1: interesting about this whole situation is that I remember, several
24:30
Speaker 1: months before she filed the lawsuits, she went on I
24:33
Speaker 1: believe it was the Real and she said that she
24:36
Speaker 1: would like to come back to the Real Housewives of
24:39
Speaker 1: Atlanta because she felt like she had some unfinished business
24:42
Speaker 1: with the women. So that was also really interesting to
24:45
Speaker 1: me that after she said that, she filed this lawsuit,
24:48
Speaker 1: and it just makes me wonder what her strategy was
24:53
Speaker 1: or is.
24:54
Speaker 2: And what have you been hearing from your sources in
24:57
Speaker 2: terms of the making of this whole situation, Like have
25:03
Speaker 2: you heard that there was a strategy in place or
25:06
Speaker 2: that everybody feels like this came out of nowhere.
25:09
Speaker 1: Everyone feels like it came out of nowhere. No one
25:11
Speaker 1: can really pinpoint if she had a strategy. It's it
25:14
Speaker 1: just kind of like leaves the question open, like was
25:16
Speaker 1: there a strategy? Like what were you hoping to get
25:20
Speaker 1: out of this other than like the obvious that like,
25:22
Speaker 1: you know, clearly she felt she was mistreated and she
25:24
Speaker 1: wanted justice for that. It just was an interesting lawsuit
25:29
Speaker 1: to file after, you know, the comments were made about
25:32
Speaker 1: coming back to the franchise and possibly sitting down with
25:36
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen to discuss that, you know, and that was
25:39
Speaker 1: after she had said a bunch of stuff on social
25:42
Speaker 1: media already. So yeah, it just it really feels like
25:46
Speaker 1: it came out of nowhere. And then also the dismissal
25:48
Speaker 1: kind of feels like it came out of nowhere, Like
25:50
Speaker 1: we came in real hot and fiery, and then it
25:52
Speaker 1: just kind of quietly washed away.
25:55
Speaker 2: I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more of
25:58
Speaker 2: my conversation with Evan'll be right back after this quick break.
26:08
Speaker 2: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
26:12
Speaker 2: Let's get back into my chat with Evan Rail about
26:15
Speaker 2: Nini Leaks. So listen. My biggest thing is because I
26:23
Speaker 2: know the fans have been asking me this Evan for
26:26
Speaker 2: the longest time. Carlos, you brought Monique Samuels back on television.
26:34
Speaker 1: I was about to ask, because you have the power
26:37
Speaker 1: and the resources, Carlos King, if anyone, yeah, okay, Carlos,
26:42
Speaker 1: let's talk to you about this. Like, if anyone can
26:44
Speaker 1: make a Nini Leak's return to reality TV happen, it's you.
26:48
Speaker 3: So what's the plan? Have we texted Nini about that.
27:00
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Evan, I mean.
27:05
Speaker 3: A journalist needs to know are we dropping some news?
27:11
Speaker 2: So I know the biggest question is, Carlos King, you
27:14
Speaker 2: have a production company, Nini leaks, is you know number
27:19
Speaker 2: one on your lists of the greatest Housewives of all time?
27:22
Speaker 2: You reached out to Monique Samuel's after her stint on
27:27
Speaker 2: Potomac and you got her to be a part of
27:31
Speaker 2: your Love and Marriage franchise, which is Love and Marriage DC.
27:35
Speaker 2: So could there be a Love and Marriage Atlanta starring
27:38
Speaker 2: Niini Leagus. I will say this, I will be honored
27:44
Speaker 2: to work with Nini in any capacity. Nimi is very expensive.
27:52
Speaker 3: That part, that part, but worth it worth it?
27:56
Speaker 2: Oh no, listen, Nini is worth every single penny. Yes,
28:00
Speaker 2: I did you know gimmo Nique to be on Love
28:04
Speaker 2: and Marriage DC. I obviously had Claudia Jordan on the
28:07
Speaker 2: next fifteen. I had Shamar de Vot, although I have
28:11
Speaker 2: Shamari first. I had Shamar Devote on my show BT Presents.
28:16
Speaker 2: They encore. So y'all know me. I love to you.
28:19
Speaker 2: Don't reach out to my girls who I love and
28:21
Speaker 2: find them a bag. So Memi leaks, I will say
28:26
Speaker 2: this if Nimi Leaks is ready to return to television.
28:33
Speaker 2: Let me know from you guys, what show would you
28:39
Speaker 2: like to see Nimi Leaks in? And make sure you
28:44
Speaker 2: hashtag reality with the King and tweet me your answer. So, Evan,
28:51
Speaker 2: now that I have you face to face and ear
28:54
Speaker 2: to ear, honey, let me know what show would you
28:58
Speaker 2: like to see Nimi Leaks?
29:00
Speaker 1: I mean, I would love Love and Marriage Atlanta. I
29:03
Speaker 1: think she'd be the perfect girl to lead it. I
29:06
Speaker 1: mean I know that she is dating again after Greg's
29:10
Speaker 1: unfortunately pass away, and I think that would be a
29:12
Speaker 1: really interesting story to see, like Nini getting back into
29:17
Speaker 1: the dating pool, reviving her love life, maybe getting married again.
29:21
Speaker 1: Like I want to see Nini win in that way.
29:24
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, there's so many incredible women in
29:27
Speaker 1: Atlanta who will be able to round out the cast
29:28
Speaker 1: with like and Nini would just be that perfect central force,
29:31
Speaker 1: kind of like Monique was the perfect center point for DC.
29:36
Speaker 1: So that's what I would love to see. I think
29:37
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Or I also I also think
29:41
Speaker 1: that Nini, you know, she could carry her own show,
29:44
Speaker 1: Like what do you think about Nini just doing kind
29:46
Speaker 1: of like her own docuseries?
29:48
Speaker 2: Oh no, listen. There's something magnificent about Nini's mannerisms and
29:55
Speaker 2: how she is just as a personality, Like Nini doesn't
29:59
Speaker 2: try hard to be funny. So like Nimi's greatest memes
30:03
Speaker 2: and gifts of all time are things she's naturally doing,
30:07
Speaker 2: like talking about Kenya's white refrigerator, or telling Kenya I
30:12
Speaker 2: said what I said, or walking into a situation saying
30:17
Speaker 2: what is this, honey, like Nimi is a walking sound bite.
30:21
Speaker 2: So I do believe that there is a world where
30:25
Speaker 2: Nimi is able to just do what's show on her own.
30:28
Speaker 2: I would love to see what's happening with her lounge, Thelenithia.
30:33
Speaker 2: I would love to see this new relationship she has
30:36
Speaker 2: with Naomi, her boyfriend, and I want to see what's
30:40
Speaker 2: going on with her children, her grandchild, and how she's
30:46
Speaker 2: navigating through life post Greg Leeks. So I'll say this much,
30:52
Speaker 2: I know Nini and we still talk, so perhaps I'll
30:57
Speaker 2: get Nini to talk about it herself.
31:01
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I literally have full body shells you
31:05
Speaker 1: just saying that, like, I need to hear a conversation
31:08
Speaker 1: between you and need to go down. You don't even
31:10
Speaker 1: have to talk about reality TV. What you got planned.
31:12
Speaker 1: Could you could legitimately just say the ABCS together and
31:16
Speaker 1: I would be entertained, like I can't wait for that.
31:20
Speaker 2: Now, that'll be good, that that'll be good. But before
31:22
Speaker 2: I let you go, I know how to off the
31:25
Speaker 2: press is there's some breaking news going on on Vander
31:30
Speaker 2: pump Rules. Evan.
31:33
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:33
Speaker 1: So, apparently at Sheena's wedding, her her second wedding to Brock,
31:36
Speaker 1: which was a beautiful by the way, the photos were stunning.
31:39
Speaker 1: She redeemed herself from the crap top wedding dress. We
31:42
Speaker 1: got this gorgeous lace gown with this long avail she liked,
31:46
Speaker 1: absolutely stunning. But while she was out here looking stunning,
31:50
Speaker 1: apparently Tom Schwartz, who just is in the middle of
31:54
Speaker 1: his divorce from Katie Maloney, hooked up with Raquel, who
31:59
Speaker 1: was dating James, and they did this at the wedding.
32:03
Speaker 1: Apparently they went into a room together, there were some
32:05
Speaker 1: smooches and now I cannot wait for the next season
32:09
Speaker 1: of vander Pumper Roles. Just when you kind of thought
32:11
Speaker 1: like vander Pumperoles and may have been on its last leg,
32:14
Speaker 1: the kids are bringing the jama They know what to
32:16
Speaker 1: do to get me at the ropes right back into it.
32:19
Speaker 3: I cannot wait. I live for the mess.
32:22
Speaker 2: So can you confirm though, that this wedding was filmed
32:26
Speaker 2: for the show.
32:27
Speaker 1: Yes, the wedding was filmed for the show, so we
32:29
Speaker 1: will play We'll see this.
32:30
Speaker 3: Play out on the show. Definitely the wedding.
32:33
Speaker 1: I don't know if there were cameras and a micro
32:35
Speaker 1: around for this a secret makeout between Tom and Raquel,
32:39
Speaker 1: but I'm living for it because they've kind of been
32:41
Speaker 1: hinting at this. Like Tom was on Sheena's podcast recently
32:45
Speaker 1: and was like, yeah, like Raquel's kind of cute.
32:47
Speaker 3: I'm kind of feeling her. So I am. I'm not
32:50
Speaker 3: mad at it.
32:50
Speaker 1: I know that Katie is probably not very happy. They
32:54
Speaker 1: were spotted filming a few weeks back. Tom and Katie
32:58
Speaker 1: in a very intense argument, and apparently it was about
33:02
Speaker 1: him kind of flirting with other girls. So even though
33:06
Speaker 1: they're getting divorced, she's like, you're still my baby, and
33:10
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a minute before I'm gonna let you
33:12
Speaker 1: hook up with other girls. I mean, unfortunately that's not
33:14
Speaker 1: her choice now that she filed for divorce from him.
33:17
Speaker 3: So I'm glad.
33:18
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Tom seems to be able to move
33:20
Speaker 1: on because I was actually worried about him. I felt
33:23
Speaker 1: like he would be like stuck being single forever because
33:26
Speaker 1: I felt like he was so comfortable in his marriage
33:28
Speaker 1: with Tom Sports. And he's told me this as much
33:30
Speaker 1: like he was like, I do not feel ready to date.
33:33
Speaker 1: This was like back in April, he was like, I
33:34
Speaker 1: can't date. It's I can't even like take my wedding
33:37
Speaker 1: ring off. So he is making strides and Katie has
33:41
Speaker 1: been on a few dates since calling it quits with Schwartz,
33:44
Speaker 1: So like, if you're gonna spread your wings in fly,
33:46
Speaker 1: you gotta let him leave the nest to Katie.
33:49
Speaker 2: So Lisa banned upon present.
33:51
Speaker 1: Do you know that Actually, now that you say that,
33:54
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember seeing her in any
33:58
Speaker 1: of the pictures. I actually need to look into that
34:01
Speaker 1: because I feel like I've been seeing all these she
34:05
Speaker 1: Anda wedding photos and I'm like, where did Maybe I
34:07
Speaker 1: was so focused on the fact that Sina wasn't wearing
34:09
Speaker 1: a crop top wedding dress that I just like totally
34:12
Speaker 1: forgot that Lisa was there. But uh, yeah, thanks for
34:16
Speaker 1: bringing that up, Carlos, because now I'm like what she there.
34:18
Speaker 1: I feel like she would have been she wouldn't have
34:20
Speaker 1: missed that. But I don't know if she would have
34:23
Speaker 1: flown to Mexico because she's got a lot going on.
34:26
Speaker 3: Do you know what.
34:27
Speaker 1: Actually, I don't think she was there because my friend
34:30
Speaker 1: was just in Vegas at her restaurant in Vegas and
34:34
Speaker 1: she texted me She's like, oh my god, Lisa and
34:36
Speaker 1: kenn are here and they're taking pictures with fans. So
34:38
Speaker 1: I don't think she could have been in Vegas and
34:39
Speaker 1: Mexico at the same time.
34:41
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'm looking into this. I'm on it.
34:44
Speaker 2: You're on the job. See what happens on reality but
34:47
Speaker 2: the king when you get the exclusive, when you don't
34:50
Speaker 2: know that you're about this bill and exclusive. That's the
34:53
Speaker 2: purpose of this podcast, guy. So Evan, I adore you,
34:57
Speaker 2: I love you, and I'm sure my listeners want to
35:00
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35:03
Speaker 2: So let us know where we can follow you and
35:05
Speaker 2: where they can find you.
35:07
Speaker 1: So you can find me at Evan Reil on Instagram.
35:09
Speaker 1: I post a lot of my interviews there and also
35:12
Speaker 1: on page six dot com. You can check out what's
35:14
Speaker 1: going on there and then also I just launched my
35:19
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35:22
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35:26
Speaker 1: some fun guests. Recently Drew Sidora from Atlanta is the
35:29
Speaker 1: most recent guest. Her and Ralph Pittman came onto the
35:31
Speaker 1: show and that was a lot of fun. So I
35:33
Speaker 1: co host that with Danny Murphy at Page six and
35:36
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35:38
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35:41
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35:44
Speaker 2: I love that. But congratulations on the podcast. You know,
35:47
Speaker 2: I adore you. We will be following and subscribing and
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35:55
Speaker 2: you get, honey, you come back on Reality with the
35:58
Speaker 2: King and you give it to my fans.
36:01
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I'm always here for you.
36:03
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, but thank you Evan.
36:05
Speaker 3: All right, thanks Carlos.
36:06
Speaker 2: This was fun. Hey, rain drops. See, I really hope
36:13
Speaker 2: that you guys had a lot of insight based on
36:17
Speaker 2: the conversation between Eva and I. As you can see,
36:21
Speaker 2: even Evan Child wants me to do a Love and
36:24
Speaker 2: Marriage Atlanta starring Ninni leaks. Hey, Look, I'll say this once,
36:31
Speaker 2: I'll say it again. I'll say it over and over
36:33
Speaker 2: and over and over. I love me some Nini. I
36:36
Speaker 2: adore her, and if there's ever an opportunity for her
36:41
Speaker 2: and I to work together, trust me, I will jump
36:46
Speaker 2: at the chance. And that's all I will say. Okay,
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