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Stewardship Over Success w/ Paul Hood · Something Extra

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  New Speaker: I'm delighted to have Paul Hood on the show today.
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  New Speaker: Paul is a CPA, personal financial specialist, and the CEO at
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  New Speaker: Paul Hood.
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  New Speaker: Well, Paul Hood, welcome to the S omething E xtra podcast.
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  New Speaker: I am so delighted to have you on the show today.
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  Paul Hood: Well, I appreciate your time.
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  Paul Hood: You know, I if people don't forget me because I say it's all good
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  Paul Hood: in the h ood.
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  Paul Hood: So, you know, they'll remember now, Paul Hood.
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  Lisa Nichols: All good in the hood.
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  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, I'm just gonna read a few things here, and then we're gonna jump
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  Lisa Nichols: in.
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  Lisa Nichols: But Paul's a CPA, an author, CEO who founded Hood and Associates
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  Lisa Nichols: over thirty years ago in 1992 .
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  Paul Hood: That's correct.
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  Lisa Nichols: Founded our company in '94 .
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  Paul Hood: There you go.
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  Lisa Nichols: So we're right in there.
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  Lisa Nichols: You have now grown this to the largest single owner CPA firm
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  Lisa Nichols: in the country,
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  Lisa Nichols: serving clients in more than thirty states.
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  Lisa Nichols: You're Forbes financial council member, regular TV financial
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  Lisa Nichols: expert, two time OSU, Oklahoma State University, top
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  Lisa Nichols: ten growth honoree.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, the list just goes on and on and on.
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  Lisa Nichols: And the most important part is you have been a husband to Lori
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  Lisa Nichols: for thirty five years or over thirty five years, a father to three
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  Lisa Nichols: sons.
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  Lisa Nichols: And we were just talking about this, your granddad to at least six.
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  Paul Hood: I've got seven.
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  Lisa Nichols: You've got
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  Lisa Nichols: seven now.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
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  Lisa Nichols: And we were just talking, and you said that there have been five generations
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  Lisa Nichols: of boys.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: And now you have all these little granddaughters who are in their little tutus.
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  Lisa Nichols: Like Oh,
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  Paul Hood: it's it's crazy.
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  Paul Hood: Kids.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: It's it's, I thought I knew love, but, oh my gosh,
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  Paul Hood: these little girls.
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  Paul Hood: And I love my grandsons as well.
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  Paul Hood: But, you know, I walk in, and I've got three grandsons.
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  Paul Hood: One of them's a year, but the other two attack me.
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  Paul Hood: You know?
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  Paul Hood: They just wanna fight and wrestle and, you know, And and these little girls
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  Paul Hood: just smile, and I just melt.
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  Paul Hood: It's it's you know?
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  Paul Hood: Which is a new movement for me.
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  Paul Hood: You know?
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  Paul Hood: I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks, and so, you know,
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  Paul Hood: you gotta be tough.
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  Paul Hood: And and Right.
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  Paul Hood: These little girls, though, it's it's it's not fair.
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  Paul Hood: I love it, but it's not fair.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: There it is.
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  Lisa Nichols: Precious.
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  Lisa Nichols: I know Greg always says with our grandson, he said, I thought I loved
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  Lisa Nichols: our kids with all my heart until Sawyer showed me the other
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  Lisa Nichols: seventy five percent.
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  Lisa Nichols: Oh,
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  Paul Hood: Absolutely.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: I love my boys and, you know, I'd die for them.
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  Paul Hood: But Mhmm.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: The it's, someone told me one time that the the reason we
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  Paul Hood: have such strong feelings towards our grandkids is you remember when
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  Paul Hood: you were your kids were little And, you know, all the things that now
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  Paul Hood: you miss, you're getting to redo.
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  Paul Hood: Plus you get to give them back, you know, and they start hollering and
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  Paul Hood: screaming.
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  Paul Hood: And and I can give them marshmallows for breakfast, and what what are they
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  Paul Hood: gonna do?
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  Lisa Nichols: It's awesome.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's awesome.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: We Greg and I are like, nope.
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  Lisa Nichols: We we're not the disciplinarians.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know?
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  Lisa Nichols: We're, you know, we're the we're the fun people.
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  Lisa Nichols: So
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  Paul Hood: Absolutely.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: I completely agree.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, you and I have not known each other that long.
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  Paul Hood: No.
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  Lisa Nichols: But I feel like we've known each other for a long time.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, we just immediately connected.
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  Lisa Nichols: I was asked to come to the ninety four x summit in Tulsa,
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  Lisa Nichols: and, you hosted the speakers the night before at your beautiful
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  Lisa Nichols: home and beautiful, home, beautiful family.
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  Lisa Nichols: I saw your grandkids doing cartwheels in your front yard.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: You got to see two of them.
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  Paul Hood: Yep.
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  Paul Hood: They live they're on the property with us.
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  Lisa Nichols: Which is so incredible.
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  Lisa Nichols: I just loved it.
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  Lisa Nichols: But this ninety four x summit, you know, I'd love we connected
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  Lisa Nichols: for a number of reasons, Paul.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, obviously, we're still we're entrepreneurs still in you know, we're in business.
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  Lisa Nichols: But I think the thing that really connected us the most is our faith
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  Lisa Nichols: in Jesus and our faith in Christ.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: But tell our listeners, if they have not heard about the ninety four x
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  Lisa Nichols: summit, this is really an amazing I would consider it a movement.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Started by Sean Copeland and Mitch Harris.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
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  Lisa Nichols: Mitch.
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  Lisa Nichols: Is that right?
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  Lisa Nichols: It's Mick.
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  Lisa Nichols: Did I get Mick.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: Mick.
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  Paul Hood: Mick.
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  Lisa Nichols: Mick.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: And just incredible.
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  Lisa Nichols: Tell tell our listeners just a little bit about that if you if you
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  Lisa Nichols: can.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: You know, so that Absolutely.
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  Paul Hood: So I, I met Sean, about a year ago, year and a half ago,
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  Paul Hood: and then I met Mick.
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  Paul Hood: And they've got a book.
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  Paul Hood: It's on 94X .
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  Paul Hood: And and he was driving one day, I believe, and and god just spoke
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  Paul Hood: to him that said, hey.
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  Paul Hood: And he got this these these numbers ninety four times.
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  Paul Hood: And the theory is is we spend ninety four times
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  Paul Hood: more time at work than we do at church.
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  Paul Hood: And so why can't we be disciples at work?
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  Paul Hood: And as you know and, again, I'm I'm the furthest qualified, the least
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  Paul Hood: qualified to be a preacher, but, you know, we're called to be disciples.
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  Paul Hood: And how do you be disciples?
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  Paul Hood: You abide in Christ, and and then the Holy Spirit
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  Paul Hood: gives you the fruit of the spirit.
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  Paul Hood: And so the fruit of the spirit is basically love.
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  Paul Hood: And so you lead with love, and you treat people a certain way.
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  Paul Hood: And so he they set off to to put together an organized
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  Paul Hood: group of business people to teach us how we could be Christ
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  Paul Hood: like at work, love people without you know, and
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  Paul Hood: doing it in in a legal way to where, you know, you you you
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  Paul Hood: you don't get sued or whatever.
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  Paul Hood: But it's an incredible thing.
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  Paul Hood: And and one of the most thing things that touched me the most is
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  Paul Hood: is when they kick this off at at their bank, they had a lady
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  Paul Hood: that said, you know what?
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  Paul Hood: This is the first time I felt loved in twenty five years.
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  Paul Hood: And she had worked for Sean and the the team forever.
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  Paul Hood: And so how how do you live your life not feeling
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  Paul Hood: loved?
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  Paul Hood: And so it's it's really just simple bringing the principles of
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  Paul Hood: of Christianity, not the church because we as humans
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  Paul Hood: screw up the church.
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  Paul Hood: Yes.
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  Paul Hood: But being Christlike and loving people and and all of that into the
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  Paul Hood: into the workplace so that people, and and it's led people to Christ.
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  Paul Hood: You know?
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  Paul Hood: You don't have to get them in a headlock and smack them around and
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  Paul Hood: say, you're gonna know Jesus or else.
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  Paul Hood: You just Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: You just be you and be show love, and and and
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  Paul Hood: it's up between them and Jesus to come together.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's is incredible.
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  Lisa Nichols: And they are you know, their goal is to start chapters all over.
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  Paul Hood: Yep.
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  Lisa Nichols: So, you know, if you're a listener out there and you want to hear
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  Lisa Nichols: more, I mean, we'll put information in the snow show notes.
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  Lisa Nichols: You can reach out to either Paul or myself, and we'll connect you to
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  Lisa Nichols: Sean, and, away you go.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: Yep.
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  Lisa Nichols: Hundred percent.
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  Lisa Nichols: So amazing.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, you know, let me let me ask you this.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you've built this amazing firm,
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  Lisa Nichols: like I said, largest single owner firm in the in the country.
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  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, before all of the growth, the awards, you know, take us
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  Lisa Nichols: back.
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  Lisa Nichols: What did you see or believe early on, Paul, that made
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  Lisa Nichols: you think I can really build something meaningful here?
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  Paul Hood: Well,
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  Paul Hood: I don't know that I ever thought that until about three years ago.
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  Paul Hood: You know?
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  Paul Hood: I grew up,
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  Paul Hood: at least, I think you know, I'm the first person in my immediate family
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  Paul Hood: not to go to prison.
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  Paul Hood: I'm the first person, not to be, on my dad's side, alcoholic.
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  Paul Hood: Even my mom's father was an alcoholic.
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  Paul Hood: I'm the first person not to smack a woman around.
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  Paul Hood: Now married to a beautiful German girl.
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  Paul Hood: If I even thought about that, she would cut me.
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  Paul Hood: She would hurt me.
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  Paul Hood: So there's that motivation.
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  Paul Hood: First person to go to college.
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  Paul Hood: And, you know, it's, it's it's I know a lot of very
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  Paul Hood: successful people, and most of us,
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  Paul Hood: we're running away from something we didn't want versus towards
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  Paul Hood: something that we wanted.
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  Paul Hood: And, you know, I just knew I wanted to be a better father than
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  Paul Hood: mine was.
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  Paul Hood: I you know, my dad was homeless most of his life, and he
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  Paul Hood: was never there for me.
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  Paul Hood: Single mom, she was married six times.
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  Paul Hood: My dad was married five times.
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  Paul Hood: I want to be a a a better husband.
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  Paul Hood: And, really what created the success is and and,
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  Paul Hood: again, not to get political, but JD Vance's book, he talks
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  Paul Hood: about his people.
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  Paul Hood: And Mhmm.
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  Paul Hood: You know, in his book, he talks about seeing people put Mountain Dew in
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  Paul Hood: baby bottles.
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  Paul Hood: I've seen that.
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  Paul Hood: And the but the thing that that got me there that that I realized
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  Paul Hood: is JD Vance says, sometimes it takes an outsider to get you away from
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  Paul Hood: from your people.
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  Paul Hood: In my book Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: I call it pigs don't know pigs stink.
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  Paul Hood: You know, my cousins taught me how to fight and drink and smoke.
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  Paul Hood: And at ten years old, I knew how to use certain contraptions to
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  Paul Hood: smoke and fight and steal.
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  Paul Hood: And Lisa, one day and this is you know, there's a lot of men
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  Paul Hood: that say, I owe all my success to my wife.
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  Paul Hood: Well, at twelve years old, I saw this smoking,
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  Paul Hood: beautiful, little cheerleader with the smile that never
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  Paul Hood: ended.
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  Paul Hood: And I went, oh my gosh.
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  Paul Hood: What do I gotta do to get her attention?
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  Paul Hood: Right.
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  Paul Hood: And, you know, it took me a while.
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  Paul Hood: You know, I did, you know, there's there's all kinds of stories with that.
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  Paul Hood: But, ultimately, I convinced her to give me a chance.
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  Paul Hood: And then I met her family, and her parents were married, and they liked
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  Paul Hood: each other.
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  Paul Hood: And
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  Paul Hood: college.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: I never heard of college.
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  Paul Hood: No.
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  Paul Hood: My family ever went to college.
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  Paul Hood: Most of them didn't graduate high school.
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  Paul Hood: And so she kinda was that motivating factor for me to turn and
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  Paul Hood: say, alright.
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  Paul Hood: I can do this.
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  Paul Hood: Now I was always good in school and a pretty good athlete.
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  Paul Hood: But, you know, I was on a path like everybody else, you know,
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  Paul Hood: in my family to probably end up in prison or, you know, some alcoholic,
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  Paul Hood: you know, smacking a woman around.
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  Paul Hood: But she literally changed my life.
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  Paul Hood: And Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: And so I I had to perform, Lisa.
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  Paul Hood: I had to be better.
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  Paul Hood: This I I felt so unworthy
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  Paul Hood: that I had to do more.
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  Paul Hood: I had to perform.
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  Paul Hood: I had to create.
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  Paul Hood: And forever, you know, we we we committed ourselves to Jesus,
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  Paul Hood: to to Christianity probably thirty years ago, but
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  Paul Hood: it was very cursory.
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  Paul Hood: You know, we went to church, but, you know, I grew up My
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  Paul Hood: grandfather on my mom's side was a Pentecostal preacher.
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  Paul Hood: And, you know, I thought the holy spirit was when somebody's flopped around on
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  Paul Hood: the floor talking in tongues, and, you know, what is that?
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  Paul Hood: You know?
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  Paul Hood: And I've learned since, you know, what he really is.
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  Paul Hood: But, you know, really, my motivation was to be good enough
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  Paul Hood: for Lori.
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  Lisa Nichols: For Lori.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: And, you know, there was a period there that I went through, and ,
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  Paul Hood: you know, we can talk about if you want to where I you know,
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  Paul Hood: like most men and I'm not being sexist, but most men, you know, I
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  Paul Hood: got in my thirties and forties and said, look at me.
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  Paul Hood: You know?
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  Paul Hood: Look what I've created.
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  Paul Hood: Look what I've done.
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  Paul Hood: Oh my gosh.
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  Paul Hood: And I deserve.
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  Paul Hood: I deserve.
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  Paul Hood: I deserve.
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  Paul Hood: I deserve.
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  Paul Hood: And so,
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  Paul Hood: God had to do some pruning through that period.
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  Paul Hood: And, thankfully, I had a wife.
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  Paul Hood: We filed for divorce, but she was prayed.
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  Paul Hood: She didn't give up.
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  Paul Hood: And so we pulled through that.
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  Paul Hood: And then, you know, there was a period that I went through that
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  Paul Hood: of learning that, Lisa, that you know, because I I I
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  Paul Hood: felt like I didn't have anybody.
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  Paul Hood: You know?
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  Paul Hood: My dad, I didn't have anybody teach me how to be a good man,
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  Paul Hood: how to be a good father, how to be a good Right.
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  Paul Hood: You know, husband, business person.
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  Paul Hood: And so there was a lot of pruning that went through in my in
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  Paul Hood: my forties, for sure.
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  Paul Hood: And and and about three years ago, I started you know,
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  Paul Hood: I realized, hey.
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  Paul Hood: You know, I may be meant to do some pretty incredible things to to
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: Sow seeds into the kingdom.
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  Lisa Nichols: And it's the stewardship.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: You get to the point where you realize, oh, gosh.
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  Lisa Nichols: All of these gifts are given to me by the god
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  Lisa Nichols: almighty.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: And how am I gonna store these gifts?
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Paul Hood: Exactly right.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: It's all his, and I'm just here to to handle it.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: And and Right.
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  Paul Hood: There's peace in that, though.
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  Paul Hood: There there really is because so many people, you know, they they
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  Paul Hood: can't find contentment.
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  Paul Hood: They can't find joy, and they can't find love
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  Paul Hood: is because they just, you know, they've they just try to hang on to
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  Paul Hood: it.
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  Paul Hood: They've they're fear based, but it's his.
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  Paul Hood: So if he wants it back, he can have it.
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  Paul Hood: You know, Lisa, I I've lived in a trailer house.
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  Paul Hood: I drove a car to college.
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  Paul Hood: I had to start with a screwdriver.
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  Paul Hood: And Mhmm.
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  Paul Hood: Okay.
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  Paul Hood: Yeah.
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  Paul Hood: The the wealth is great, but it's his.
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  Paul Hood: You know?
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  Paul Hood: If he wants to take it back, he can hope he doesn't.
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  Paul Hood: But if he does, he that's fine.
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  Paul Hood: You know?
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: No.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's there's so much about what you've just shared that I love, Paul.
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  Lisa Nichols: First of all, like, Laurie, you just never know in somebody else's
• 14:39
  Lisa Nichols: life how your presence, how your words really,
• 14:44
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, can change the trajectory of their lives.
• 14:46
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 14:46
  Lisa Nichols: We need to be on the lookout for that daily, I think.
• 14:50
  Paul Hood: Yep.
• 14:51
  Lisa Nichols: I just told somebody this morning, I said I just wanna be more and
• 14:54
  Lisa Nichols: more surrendered because when I realize and I you you do
• 14:58
  Lisa Nichols: the same thing.
• 14:59
  Lisa Nichols: I come in contact with people every single day, and I know
• 15:03
  Lisa Nichols: in my own strength, I have no ability to
• 15:07
  Lisa Nichols: influence or impact, you know, but when
• 15:11
  Lisa Nichols: you abide, you've already said the word abide, then you
• 15:15
  Lisa Nichols: do have the power Yeah.
• 15:17
  Lisa Nichols: Of the holy spirit Yeah.
• 15:18
  Lisa Nichols: That lives in you, and then you can rely on him.
• 15:22
  Lisa Nichols: And I think yeah.
• 15:23
  Lisa Nichols: And I think what you said about, you know,
• 15:27
  Lisa Nichols: gosh, there's so much that you said.
• 15:28
  Lisa Nichols: But even, like, getting to that point where you think, look what I've done,
• 15:32
  Lisa Nichols: you know, pride is really dangerous.
• 15:34
  Paul Hood: It is.
• 15:35
  Paul Hood: It is.
• 15:35
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, the bible says pride comes before destruction and destruction before the fall.
• 15:40
  Lisa Nichols: Listen.
• 15:41
  Lisa Nichols: We've got to always keep checking ourselves.
• 15:43
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 15:44
  Lisa Nichols: Is pride?
• 15:45
  Lisa Nichols: You know, what what's my motivation for doing what I'm doing?
• 15:48
  Lisa Nichols: Is it pride?
• 15:50
  Lisa Nichols: And then you gotta eradicate that because I mean, we're you know, humility.
• 15:54
  Paul Hood: I was gonna tell you the story.
• 15:55
  Paul Hood: When when Laurie and I first met, you know, her and her best
• 15:59
  Paul Hood: friend had a birthday party.
• 16:01
  Paul Hood: They were turning thirteen.
• 16:03
  Paul Hood: And, to this day, nobody knows how I ended up there.
• 16:07
  Paul Hood: I don't know if I snuck in.
• 16:09
  Paul Hood: They didn't know me.
• 16:10
  Paul Hood: I knew who she was.
• 16:13
  Paul Hood: And but they they played this game, Lisa, to where the the girls got
• 16:17
  Paul Hood: on the outside of the circle facing out, the boys on the inside facing
• 16:20
  Paul Hood: in, and you went separate directions.
• 16:23
  Paul Hood: And when the music stopped, that's who you danced with.
• 16:26
  Paul Hood: And I'm telling you, Lisa, I was not a praying guy.
• 16:28
  Paul Hood: I mean, I'm twelve years old.
• 16:32
  Paul Hood: And for whatever reason, I said, oh my gosh, god.
• 16:34
  Paul Hood: I need to dance with this girl.
• 16:37
  Paul Hood: And and the music stopped, and I turned around,
• 16:41
  Paul Hood: and there she was.
• 16:43
  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
• 16:44
  Paul Hood: I can tell you, her reaction to me, she was not very happy, but
• 16:49
  Paul Hood: I was walking on water.
• 16:52
  Paul Hood: And and, I was twelve years old.
• 16:55
  Paul Hood: And then, you know, at fourteen, I saw her again, and I asked her
• 16:58
  Paul Hood: to marry me.
• 16:58
  Paul Hood: And she laughed at me and said no.
• 17:01
  Lisa Nichols: When you were fourteen?
• 17:02
  Lisa Nichols: Fourteen.
• 17:02
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 17:04
  Paul Hood: I said, I'm telling you.
• 17:05
  Paul Hood: Now I I you know, I've never been bashful, and that's why I've created,
• 17:08
  Paul Hood: you know, some success, I think.
• 17:10
  Paul Hood: But Right.
• 17:11
  Paul Hood: Finally so then I started going out with or whatever her best best friend.
• 17:16
  Paul Hood: And and then at at fifteen, you know, we kinda got together
• 17:20
  Paul Hood: and, dated for four years and got married at nineteen.
• 17:24
  Paul Hood: And and then, you know, like I said, I I when I was in
• 17:28
  Paul Hood: my forties,
• 17:30
  Paul Hood: I I just felt like, you know, look at me.
• 17:32
  Paul Hood: Oh my gosh.
• 17:33
  Paul Hood: I'm created greatness.
• 17:34
  Paul Hood: Nobody in my family has ever done anything.
• 17:37
  Paul Hood: And this woman should meet me at the door naked, carrying a homemade
• 17:42
  Paul Hood: lasagna.
• 17:42
  Paul Hood: I deserve, I did you know, the life I gave her.
• 17:46
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 17:46
  Paul Hood: And and so we did.
• 17:48
  Paul Hood: We separated and divorced, filed for divorce, and then, you know, a series
• 17:52
  Paul Hood: of things happened.
• 17:55
  Paul Hood: I I, we my middle son lost a baby at thirty
• 17:59
  Paul Hood: eight weeks.
• 18:01
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 18:02
  Paul Hood: And,
• 18:03
  Paul Hood: it humbled me.
• 18:05
  Paul Hood: Unfortunately or fortunately, someone took a picture of me holding my son's face.
• 18:10
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 18:13
  Paul Hood: While he held this baby.
• 18:16
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 18:17
  Paul Hood: And I just felt lost.
• 18:18
  Paul Hood: I just felt, oh my gosh.
• 18:19
  Paul Hood: I am totally alone.
• 18:21
  Paul Hood: I've got nobody.
• 18:22
  Paul Hood: How am I supposed to react and to be a good father here?
• 18:29
  Paul Hood: And during this period, you know, God was working on me, and I went
• 18:32
  Paul Hood: to a a a Christian counselor,
• 18:37
  Paul Hood: Dawn Marie Cola.
• 18:39
  Paul Hood: She has no idea what she did for me.
• 18:41
  Paul Hood: She was little five foot tall.
• 18:43
  Paul Hood: Her husband was the pastor at Wesleyan church.
• 18:47
  Paul Hood: And I was talking to her and she said, so, Paul, what what you're
• 18:49
  Paul Hood: saying is you deserve for Lori to act a certain way.
• 18:53
  Paul Hood: I said, well, yeah.
• 18:54
  Paul Hood: I I mean, you see my house.
• 18:56
  Paul Hood: You see what you know, she can do anything.
• 18:59
  Paul Hood: And and Lisa, she said, do you know this guy named Jesus?
• 19:04
  Paul Hood: And I said, yeah.
• 19:06
  Paul Hood: What did he do for you?
• 19:08
  Paul Hood: And so I said what he did for me.
• 19:11
  Paul Hood: At least she looked me right in the eyes with the the sweetest smile
• 19:15
  Paul Hood: and said, what did you do to deserve that?
• 19:19
  Paul Hood: And I went, oh my gosh.
• 19:22
  Paul Hood: And I got punched right in the mouth.
• 19:23
  Paul Hood: And and, you know, that started a series of of
• 19:28
  Paul Hood: growth and pruning and and things like that.
• 19:31
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 19:31
  Paul Hood: And,
• 19:33
  Lisa Nichols: And ultimately healing.
• 19:34
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 19:34
  Paul Hood: Hundred percent.
• 19:35
  Lisa Nichols: Ultimately healing.
• 19:36
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 19:36
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 19:37
  Lisa Nichols: For your for your marriage, and you guys are you know, have been married
• 19:41
  Lisa Nichols: for over thirty five years now.
• 19:42
  Paul Hood: So We're on we've been together forty two years, married with thirty eight.
• 19:46
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 19:47
  Paul Hood: And and it's it's, I've got a big passion now for men
• 19:51
  Paul Hood: and and, just because I don't understand women.
• 19:54
  Paul Hood: I've been married to one for thirty eight years.
• 19:56
  Paul Hood: I still can't keep up.
• 19:58
  Paul Hood: I I do know she's mentally,
• 20:01
  Paul Hood: emotionally stronger than me.
• 20:03
  Paul Hood: I mean, literally, Lisa, she'll be sitting over there.
• 20:05
  Paul Hood: She's left handed.
• 20:06
  Paul Hood: She's an artist.
• 20:07
  Paul Hood: She paints, and and she's doing a crossword puzzle or or a a
• 20:11
  Paul Hood: puzzle and looking at her phone and watching TV and carrying on the conversation
• 20:15
  Paul Hood: with me.
• 20:16
  Paul Hood: And I'm going, wait.
• 20:18
  Paul Hood: Don't talk to me.
• 20:18
  Paul Hood: I gotta turn from the TV.
• 20:20
  Paul Hood: It was so simple.
• 20:21
  Paul Hood: Right.
• 20:21
  Paul Hood: And she just, like, years years ahead of me.
• 20:24
  Paul Hood: And so I'm very, very, very blessed for sure.
• 20:28
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 20:28
  Lisa Nichols: Well,
• 20:30
  Lisa Nichols: I I'm just thinking, you know, to back to that story.
• 20:33
  Lisa Nichols: I love that story that you told about the thirteenth birthday party
• 20:36
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 20:37
  Lisa Nichols: Because God was working Yeah.
• 20:39
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Lisa Nichols: Even though you didn't realize it, you know, that, that when the
• 20:43
  Lisa Nichols: music stopped.
• 20:45
  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, I read something in your book.
• 20:47
  Lisa Nichols: I've read your book, and we're gonna talk about your book.
• 20:49
  Lisa Nichols: But, you you kinda had this, philosophy, I'm
• 20:53
  Lisa Nichols: going to win or I'm gonna die trying.
• 20:56
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 20:57
  Lisa Nichols: And just the grit and the perseverance and the, you know,
• 21:01
  Lisa Nichols: never give up.
• 21:02
  Lisa Nichols: Right, Paul?
• 21:03
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, that's really important for entrepreneurs
• 21:06
  Paul Hood: It is.
• 21:06
  Lisa Nichols: Because there are some days where you're like, this is just too hard.
• 21:11
  Lisa Nichols: Too hard.
• 21:11
  Paul Hood: Well, what Right?
• 21:13
  Paul Hood: The thing for me, Lisa and and just to to correct you a little
• 21:16
  Paul Hood: bit.
• 21:16
  Paul Hood: So we've split our company between the CPA side,
• 21:20
  Paul Hood: the not it it's called attestation services, and then we have a very large
• 21:24
  Paul Hood: non CPA firm, does tax and consulting and everything.
• 21:28
  Paul Hood: And, and we're doing pretty something pretty amazing in in the industry, and we'll
• 21:32
  Paul Hood: talk about that maybe in a little bit that, I I tell my team
• 21:35
  Paul Hood: they're gonna write books about us.
• 21:36
  Paul Hood: We are changing the industry for sure.
• 21:39
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 21:39
  Paul Hood: But, you know, when you
• 21:42
  Paul Hood: you grow up a fighter, you you grow up no you know, thinking I've
• 21:46
  Paul Hood: got nobody.
• 21:47
  Paul Hood: Even though Laurie was always there, and I have three beautiful sons and
• 21:51
  Paul Hood: but I got nobody.
• 21:52
  Paul Hood: You know?
• 21:53
  Paul Hood: And that that realization
• 21:56
  Paul Hood: that, you know, when I was holding my son's face and
• 22:01
  Paul Hood: you don't know pain.
• 22:03
  Paul Hood: You do.
• 22:04
  Paul Hood: You don't know pain until your kids have pain, and you can't
• 22:08
  Paul Hood: solve that.
• 22:09
  Paul Hood: And I've always been that I can I I will carry the burden
• 22:13
  Paul Hood: for my entire family?
• 22:15
  Paul Hood: But when you don't and what I realized, Lisa,
• 22:20
  Paul Hood: because I you know, in that moment, I have a father who's gonna teach
• 22:24
  Paul Hood: me how to be a good man, a good husband.
• 22:27
  Paul Hood: But when I after the series of events,
• 22:31
  Paul Hood: I realized I did have a father.
• 22:34
  Paul Hood: I did have a business partner.
• 22:38
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 22:38
  Paul Hood: I did have a counselor to teach me how to be a good husband.
• 22:42
  Paul Hood: And it's written in the book.
• 22:44
  Paul Hood: I mean, it's it's literally, just go to the book.
• 22:47
  Lisa Nichols: In the book.
• 22:48
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 22:48
  Paul Hood: And and that changed everything.
• 22:50
  Paul Hood: That that was a pivotal point to where, you know, up to that point,
• 22:54
  Paul Hood: I was growing partly out of fear, being unworthy.
• 22:59
  Paul Hood: I was you know, I would not be out work.
• 23:02
  Paul Hood: You can you know, times are tough.
• 23:04
  Paul Hood: I get excited because I know weaker people are gonna quit.
• 23:09
  Paul Hood: So it's partly out of fear.
• 23:10
  Paul Hood: It's partly out of, as you create success in a world like
• 23:14
  Paul Hood: mine, out of guilt.
• 23:15
  Paul Hood: You know, why me, god?
• 23:16
  Paul Hood: I mean, why why not all these other people in my family?
• 23:20
  Paul Hood: Why me?
• 23:22
  Paul Hood: And and then, you you know, just created that mentality.
• 23:26
  Paul Hood: I gotta win for wins to win's sake, for win's sake.
• 23:31
  Paul Hood: And Right.
• 23:31
  Paul Hood: And that all changed a few years ago, and and it it's it's been
• 23:35
  Paul Hood: just absolutely amazing because, you know, you put so much pressure on yourself when
• 23:39
  Paul Hood: you when you have a drive to succeed because of
• 23:43
  Paul Hood: issues like that, because of fear and because of, guilt.
• 23:47
  Paul Hood: I I it'll never be good enough.
• 23:49
  Paul Hood: I'll never have enough.
• 23:50
  Paul Hood: I've I've gotta be the best.
• 23:52
  Paul Hood: I've you know?
• 23:53
  Paul Hood: And
• 23:54
  Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
• 23:55
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Lisa Nichols: That's so good, Paul.
• 23:56
  Lisa Nichols: And, the scripture comes to me when when you're talking about that in in
• 24:01
  Lisa Nichols: our weakness, he is strong.
• 24:03
  Lisa Nichols: Yep.
• 24:03
  Lisa Nichols: It's his strength.
• 24:04
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 24:05
  Lisa Nichols: And I see so many people burn out because they're trying to do it
• 24:09
  Lisa Nichols: in their own strength.
• 24:10
  Lisa Nichols: And just that surrender
• 24:13
  Lisa Nichols: that you're talking about and for our listeners who may not know the book
• 24:17
  Lisa Nichols: that Paul's talking about, he's talking about the bible, the holy bible.
• 24:21
  Lisa Nichols: And it's all in there.
• 24:22
  Paul Hood: It's all in there.
• 24:23
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 24:23
  Paul Hood: You you wanna you wanna know how to have a good marriage?
• 24:25
  Paul Hood: It's right there.
• 24:26
  Paul Hood: It's written down.
• 24:27
  Paul Hood: You wanna have a good business, good relationships?
• 24:30
  Paul Hood: It's right there.
• 24:32
  Paul Hood: It's and, you know, and I can laugh at it now and and so
• 24:35
  Paul Hood: I don't cry.
• 24:36
  Paul Hood: But literally, the woman I prayed to to have a little dance with,
• 24:41
  Paul Hood: I thought I was too good for.
• 24:42
  Paul Hood: The gift that God gave me that created that I had no problem
• 24:47
  Paul Hood: acknowledging allowed me to create at least the motivation
• 24:51
  Paul Hood: and the, you know, the the structure to create all this success.
• 24:55
  Paul Hood: He was no longer good enough, and it's comical.
• 24:59
  Paul Hood: It's Yeah.
• 25:01
  Paul Hood: It's so silly, but and so many men do that.
• 25:04
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Lisa Nichols: Thank you so much, and I'm so grateful that God took you through that,
• 25:09
  Lisa Nichols: Paul.
• 25:10
  Lisa Nichols: Now you can build into other men because, it's it's not
• 25:14
  Lisa Nichols: it's more of a universal thing
• 25:16
  Paul Hood: It is.
• 25:16
  Paul Hood: It is.
• 25:18
  Paul Hood: Well and they don't know.
• 25:19
  Paul Hood: They don't know.
• 25:20
  Paul Hood: We we have this me, me, me, me, me, me, and I deserve, and
• 25:23
  Paul Hood: I fell out of love, and she should do this.
• 25:26
  Paul Hood: And I no.
• 25:27
  Paul Hood: That that that's it's it's counterintuitive
• 25:31
  Paul Hood: is is is when you when you get when you think about me, you
• 25:35
  Paul Hood: will never find joy and happiness.
• 25:37
  Paul Hood: And so it's it's not about me.
• 25:40
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 25:40
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
• 25:42
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I know that you know Horace Schultze.
• 25:44
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 25:45
  Lisa Nichols: And Horace was on my podcast.
• 25:47
  Lisa Nichols: And I tell you, I think Horace is, like, eighty four, eighty
• 25:51
  Lisa Nichols: five now.
• 25:52
  Lisa Nichols: Yep.
• 25:52
  Lisa Nichols: Maybe eighty six.
• 25:54
  Lisa Nichols: But I just I love that interview with him, Paul.
• 25:56
  Lisa Nichols: But at the very end, you know, he's just talking about choices.
• 26:00
  Lisa Nichols: Your life is a series of choices.
• 26:02
  Lisa Nichols: You make a decision.
• 26:03
  Lisa Nichols: You have the choice.
• 26:05
  Lisa Nichols: God gives you the choice every day.
• 26:07
  Lisa Nichols: How you're gonna respond.
• 26:08
  Lisa Nichols: How you're gonna show up.
• 26:09
  Lisa Nichols: And at the very end, he just he just cracked me up.
• 26:13
  Lisa Nichols: He said, and for you men out there that say, oh, I've fallen
• 26:17
  Lisa Nichols: out of love or whatever.
• 26:18
  Lisa Nichols: He goes, well, whose choice is that?
• 26:21
  Lisa Nichols: Amen.
• 26:21
  Lisa Nichols: It is.
• 26:23
  Lisa Nichols: And, just he he was just so funny, but, it just reminds
• 26:27
  Lisa Nichols: me of him.
• 26:27
  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, and I just wanna tell our our listeners this.
• 26:31
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you gosh.
• 26:33
  Lisa Nichols: And I want you to talk more about, Hood.
• 26:36
  Lisa Nichols: I want you to talk more about the company.
• 26:38
  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, this is funny to me.
• 26:40
  Lisa Nichols: So you started the company in nineteen ninety two?
• 26:43
  Paul Hood: Correct.
• 26:44
  Lisa Nichols: I believe.
• 26:45
  Lisa Nichols: Okay.
• 26:45
  Lisa Nichols: Just three years after you graduated.
• 26:48
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 26:49
  Lisa Nichols: But you also bought a company.
• 26:51
  Lisa Nichols: You bought another CPA firm, I think, because you were working at Deloitte.
• 26:54
  Lisa Nichols: Yep.
• 26:55
  Lisa Nichols: And you bought a CPA firm, like, in Bartlesville or something, like,
• 26:59
  Lisa Nichols: in nineteen eighty nine.
• 27:00
  Lisa Nichols: The year you're right.
• 27:01
  Lisa Nichols: And I'm thinking, oh my goodness.
• 27:03
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you just, you just had some grit about you, Paul.
• 27:08
  Lisa Nichols: Well Like, you know No.
• 27:09
  Paul Hood: Again what do you know?
• 27:10
  Paul Hood: I don't know about grit.
• 27:11
  Paul Hood: For you.
• 27:11
  Paul Hood: Well, let me kinda tell you that little story.
• 27:13
  Paul Hood: So, yeah, I graduated in eighty nine, went to work with Deloitte in two,
• 27:16
  Paul Hood: second largest accounting firm in the world.
• 27:19
  Paul Hood: And, Lori and I you know?
• 27:22
  Paul Hood: So
• 27:24
  Paul Hood: when Lori and I got married, she got on birth control, and then
• 27:28
  Paul Hood: she had a a mini stroke because she can't some people can't handle the
• 27:32
  Paul Hood: hormones.
• 27:34
  Paul Hood: And our, ever so intelligent doctor said it'll
• 27:38
  Paul Hood: take six months for that to get out of her system.
• 27:41
  Paul Hood: Well,
• 27:43
  Paul Hood: ten months later, here's a little baby, and we're still in college.
• 27:46
  Paul Hood: So
• 27:47
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 27:48
  Paul Hood: You know, I I I we were at Oklahoma State University, and
• 27:52
  Paul Hood: and it was my senior year.
• 27:53
  Paul Hood: We had a little baby.
• 27:54
  Paul Hood: He was born in eighty eight and graduated in eighty nine, went to work
• 27:57
  Paul Hood: for Deloitte and Touche in Tulsa.
• 28:00
  Paul Hood: Two years later, one of their partners and senior managers convinced me to leave
• 28:04
  Paul Hood: with them, and they started their own practice.
• 28:07
  Paul Hood: And I left with them to be able to move Laurie, and our second
• 28:10
  Paul Hood: child was on the way back to Bartlesville, which where her family was.
• 28:14
  Paul Hood: And and and so I worked for them for about a year,
• 28:18
  Paul Hood: and they, they said, well, we want you to move back to bar back
• 28:22
  Paul Hood: to Tulsa.
• 28:23
  Paul Hood: We're gonna close that office because and and no.
• 28:27
  Paul Hood: I'm I moved my wife and kids right there with grandma and
• 28:31
  Paul Hood: and everything, and so I didn't.
• 28:32
  Paul Hood: But that little practice so I bought them out, but it wasn't big
• 28:36
  Paul Hood: enough to sustain me.
• 28:38
  Paul Hood: So Mhmm.
• 28:39
  Paul Hood: I went to work for a a private company and was doing the tax
• 28:42
  Paul Hood: things on the side.
• 28:44
  Paul Hood: And, Lisa, god bless the people that can do that as far
• 28:48
  Paul Hood: as working for corporate America.
• 28:50
  Paul Hood: I can't.
• 28:51
  Paul Hood: You know, two weeks into it, I'm looking around these people, and it's it's
• 28:54
  Paul Hood: and they were beautiful people, but I felt like I was in a zombie
• 28:57
  Paul Hood: movie.
• 28:58
  Paul Hood: You know?
• 28:59
  Paul Hood: I had no way on earth can I do the same thing over and
• 29:02
  Paul Hood: over and over?
• 29:03
  Paul Hood: So then and I had a good job.
• 29:05
  Paul Hood: I was, like, third, two people away from the CFO, but I just couldn't
• 29:09
  Paul Hood: handle it.
• 29:10
  Paul Hood: So then I bought another practice in ninety three, was
• 29:14
  Paul Hood: out on my own.
• 29:16
  Paul Hood: And so, you know, it was really out of necessity because my wife,
• 29:20
  Paul Hood: we we needed to stay in in in Bartlesville.
• 29:22
  Paul Hood: And then I bought another and bought another and bought another and bought another
• 29:25
  Paul Hood: one.
• 29:26
  Paul Hood: And about three years ago, I, you know, started getting calls from private
• 29:30
  Paul Hood: equity people.
• 29:31
  Paul Hood: And, apparently, I had done something pretty magnificent because my industry
• 29:36
  Paul Hood: has always been built in a in a a centralized management
• 29:40
  Paul Hood: model, which is a partnership.
• 29:42
  Paul Hood: So I was, we were doing about eighteen million in business,
• 29:46
  Paul Hood: had offices in in four states, and I own ninety nine percent of the
• 29:50
  Paul Hood: business.
• 29:52
  Paul Hood: And a typical CPA firm that does eighteen million dollars
• 29:56
  Paul Hood: in business has fifteen, eighteen partners.
• 29:59
  Paul Hood: I I had a one percent shareholder because I don't wanna sign up
• 30:03
  Paul Hood: on audits.
• 30:05
  Paul Hood: And and so we we kinda changed that industry,
• 30:09
  Paul Hood: and so we built it in a decentralized management model.
• 30:12
  Paul Hood: But in one year, Lisa, we went from eight to eighteen million dollars in
• 30:16
  Paul Hood: revenue through acquisition and organic growth, and I realized
• 30:20
  Paul Hood: I'm a horrible manager.
• 30:23
  Paul Hood: There's a difference between being a manager and a leader big time.
• 30:26
  Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
• 30:27
  Lisa Nichols: And
• 30:28
  Paul Hood: and, you know, my I used to say my management style is I'm a
• 30:31
  Paul Hood: take off running every now and then look back and see who's following.
• 30:34
  Paul Hood: That's leadership.
• 30:35
  Paul Hood: That's not management.
• 30:37
  Paul Hood: And so about three years ago, we started on a it was again, God
• 30:41
  Paul Hood: put these things in place, and I hired,
• 30:45
  Paul Hood: a implementer.
• 30:46
  Paul Hood: She had just sold her company.
• 30:48
  Paul Hood: And I'm gonna tell you what's what's really great, Lisa.
• 30:51
  Paul Hood: And I say this right to her face.
• 30:52
  Paul Hood: She's not a Christian, and she don't have to be a Christian.
• 30:56
  Paul Hood: I'm a a conservative Christian cowboy from Oklahoma,
• 31:00
  Paul Hood: and she's a liberal Buddhist from England and Austin.
• 31:05
  Paul Hood: But she's one of the most Christ like people I've ever met.
• 31:08
  Paul Hood: And I've told her, Lisa, straight to her face, God brought you to me.
• 31:12
  Paul Hood: It's my job to bring you to him, and she just smiles and everything.
• 31:15
  Paul Hood: But she's an implementer.
• 31:16
  Paul Hood: And there's a book called Rocket Fuel that,
• 31:20
  Paul Hood: she it it's kind of like I in my vision, I know what this
• 31:23
  Paul Hood: thing's supposed to look like.
• 31:25
  Paul Hood: I know exactly what it's supposed to look like.
• 31:27
  Paul Hood: And so if you think of maybe a fifty story building, I know
• 31:31
  Paul Hood: what it's gonna look like.
• 31:33
  Paul Hood: I can't I would couldn't.
• 31:35
  Paul Hood: I don't want to determine, are we on pace?
• 31:38
  Paul Hood: When do we need the plumbers?
• 31:40
  Paul Hood: When do we need this?
• 31:40
  Paul Hood: When do we OKRs and KPR KPIs and and management
• 31:45
  Paul Hood: cadence and making sure and
• 31:48
  Paul Hood: so but the two of us together is a powerhouse.
• 31:53
  Paul Hood: It it's absolutely god sent, and and we're really excited.
• 31:57
  Paul Hood: We're on pace to go from a twenty million in revenue to about a
• 32:00
  Paul Hood: hundred million in revenue in the next three to four years and,
• 32:04
  Paul Hood: gonna do some really great things for the kingdom of god.
• 32:08
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 32:09
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 32:09
  Lisa Nichols: So cool.
• 32:10
  Lisa Nichols: Well, Paul, we've got I've got lots more.
• 32:13
  Lisa Nichols: I wanna get into your book.
• 32:14
  Lisa Nichols: There's lots more questions.
• 32:15
  Lisa Nichols: We do need to take a quick break, and we'll be right back with
• 32:17
  Lisa Nichols: Paul Hood on the Something Extra podcast.
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• 32:50
  Lisa Nichols: So welcome back, everyone, to the Something Extra podcast with my friend,
• 32:54
  Lisa Nichols: Paul Hood.
• 32:55
  Lisa Nichols: So here is his book.
• 32:57
  Lisa Nichols: It's called he's written two, but I've got the one in front of me,
• 33:01
  Lisa Nichols: Roadkill Tastes Like Chicken.
• 33:04
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 33:04
  Lisa Nichols: And it is a really good book.
• 33:07
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you know, that one gets everybody's attention.
• 33:10
  Lisa Nichols: I'm sure, that title alone.
• 33:13
  Lisa Nichols: But what is the deeper, you know, story and lesson
• 33:17
  Lisa Nichols: you want people to take away?
• 33:18
  Lisa Nichols: And I would highly recommend our leaders get the book.
• 33:21
  Lisa Nichols: You will laugh.
• 33:22
  Lisa Nichols: You will cry.
• 33:24
  Lisa Nichols: You will be inspired.
• 33:25
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, it's all of those things.
• 33:27
  Lisa Nichols: But, you know,
• 33:29
  Lisa Nichols: I'm I'm in I'm gonna put I'm gonna put one thought in your brain.
• 33:33
  Lisa Nichols: Okay?
• 33:33
  Lisa Nichols: K.
• 33:34
  Lisa Nichols: Paul.
• 33:34
  Lisa Nichols: But maybe other things.
• 33:35
  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, one of the things that really stuck out to me, it's
• 33:38
  Lisa Nichols: not your circumstances that determines your attitude.
• 33:42
  Lisa Nichols: It's how you choose to react to your circumstances or to respond
• 33:46
  Lisa Nichols: to your circumstances.
• 33:47
  Lisa Nichols: Because your circumstances were not ideal.
• 33:51
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 33:51
  Lisa Nichols: But you responded in a different way.
• 33:54
  Lisa Nichols: So, you know, what other lessons what are some of the lessons you want
• 33:58
  Lisa Nichols: people to take away when they read your book?
• 34:00
  Paul Hood: Well, you know, roadkill tastes like chicken.
• 34:02
  Paul Hood: The title came from because we were so poor.
• 34:04
  Paul Hood: We literally have stories of eating roadkill.
• 34:06
  Paul Hood: And I don't mean we stopped and picked up a dead animal, but my
• 34:09
  Paul Hood: grandfather was full blooded and then my dad was half.
• 34:12
  Paul Hood: And whether he shot a squirrel with a gun, an arrow, ran over the
• 34:15
  Paul Hood: car, that's dinner.
• 34:17
  Paul Hood: And, the the yeah.
• 34:19
  Paul Hood: I I I'm sure you've heard you know, Jim Stovall.
• 34:23
  Paul Hood: And Jim Stovall is my buddy, and he's got some incredible books.
• 34:26
  Paul Hood: And and he's a client, and I get to meet with him, periodically.
• 34:31
  Paul Hood: And, he's very generous.
• 34:33
  Paul Hood: Gen he's great with his time.
• 34:36
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 34:37
  Paul Hood: And he said, Paul, you need to write a book.
• 34:39
  Paul Hood: I said, no.
• 34:41
  Paul Hood: I don't need to write a book.
• 34:42
  Paul Hood: I'm a CPA and a financial planner.
• 34:44
  Paul Hood: Nobody wants to read that book.
• 34:45
  Paul Hood: And Jim said, what are the ten to twelve things that you learned
• 34:50
  Paul Hood: from where you went where you were to where you came, where you're at
• 34:54
  Paul Hood: now?
• 34:54
  Paul Hood: What are the ten to twelve things you've learned on this path that if
• 34:56
  Paul Hood: other people knew, it might change their lives?
• 34:59
  Paul Hood: How did you learn it, and and how would they apply it?
• 35:02
  Paul Hood: And, you know, the the, the emphasis of the
• 35:06
  Paul Hood: book and, again, when I wrote it, it was kind of like, I'm not
• 35:10
  Paul Hood: good enough to write this.
• 35:13
  Paul Hood: A little bit out of guilt.
• 35:14
  Paul Hood: You know?
• 35:14
  Paul Hood: I I I don't know why I've got this, but there you know, I
• 35:17
  Paul Hood: made a list of ten things.
• 35:19
  Paul Hood: And and, one of them is, Lisa,
• 35:24
  Paul Hood: my ultimate goal in life.
• 35:25
  Paul Hood: I had the opportunity to sell half of my company in March for fifty
• 35:29
  Paul Hood: million dollars.
• 35:30
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 35:31
  Paul Hood: Broke deal everything.
• 35:32
  Paul Hood: Fifty million dollar.
• 35:32
  Paul Hood: If I can't live on fifty million dollars, there's a problem.
• 35:35
  Paul Hood: You you got a big problem.
• 35:36
  Paul Hood: I felt like Satan was tempting me because I know what we're gonna do
• 35:40
  Paul Hood: with on the back end.
• 35:42
  Paul Hood: And but the whole that that section, especially that quote is,
• 35:48
  Paul Hood: there there's a there's a there's a thing called the I call it maybe
• 35:52
  Paul Hood: is the, scarcity principle, Lisa.
• 35:55
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 35:56
  Paul Hood: That's why gold and silver and diamonds are so valuable.
• 35:58
  Paul Hood: It's scarce.
• 36:00
  Paul Hood: What I've come to discover, one of the things I want, spend my life
• 36:04
  Paul Hood: doing is, like, I I periodically will talk to urban
• 36:08
  Paul Hood: football teams, and and their coach, this last one, he said, Paul, not a
• 36:11
  Paul Hood: single one of these boys know what success actually looks like.
• 36:16
  Paul Hood: And, Lisa, if I'm talking to you, you talk about scarcity.
• 36:19
  Paul Hood: In the history of mankind, from Adam to today
• 36:25
  Paul Hood: and for the entire future, there has never been and never
• 36:29
  Paul Hood: will be another Lisa.
• 36:31
  Paul Hood: You are the the the definition
• 36:33
  Paul Hood: of scarcity, of value.
• 36:36
  Paul Hood: And God put in you the the desire and the ability
• 36:41
  Paul Hood: and to be to do amazing things, things that nobody else
• 36:45
  Paul Hood: on the planet has ever been able or ever will be able
• 36:49
  Paul Hood: to do.
• 36:50
  Paul Hood: It's in you.
• 36:51
  Paul Hood: But we live in this world, and I come from that world of
• 36:55
  Paul Hood: of this victim mentality,
• 36:59
  Paul Hood: blaming other people.
• 37:00
  Paul Hood: I can't do this because of where I grew up or my family or
• 37:04
  Paul Hood: my race or, you know, whatever.
• 37:08
  Paul Hood: And it's it's just it hurts my heart
• 37:12
  Paul Hood: that there is so much talent tied up in poverty.
• 37:16
  Paul Hood: And the people that the the biggest hindrance to people being who they
• 37:20
  Paul Hood: god created them to be is themselves.
• 37:23
  Paul Hood: Is that self talk?
• 37:24
  Paul Hood: Right.
• 37:24
  Paul Hood: Is that self talk?
• 37:25
  Paul Hood: And Yes.
• 37:26
  Paul Hood: And they get the affirmation from the people.
• 37:28
  Paul Hood: Nobody's ever done this, and, no, we you know, we our our kind just
• 37:32
  Paul Hood: don't do that.
• 37:34
  Paul Hood: And we have this entitlement attitude that's pervasive and this victim
• 37:38
  Paul Hood: mentality.
• 37:40
  Paul Hood: And it's it's it's a lie.
• 37:43
  Paul Hood: Lisa, it's a lie.
• 37:45
  Paul Hood: And and my intent was, especially with that quote, was
• 37:49
  Paul Hood: to try to start that process to to you are
• 37:53
  Paul Hood: your biggest asset.
• 37:54
  Paul Hood: And, you know, if I wanna play professional
• 37:59
  Paul Hood: basketball, then I'm gonna study.
• 38:01
  Paul Hood: I'm gonna learn.
• 38:02
  Paul Hood: I'm a videotape myself.
• 38:04
  Paul Hood: What are my movements?
• 38:05
  Paul Hood: I'm gonna go get coaching.
• 38:06
  Paul Hood: I'm gonna work work work work work work because it's proven,
• 38:10
  Paul Hood: that it it's it takes about ten thousand hours, and you can be a
• 38:14
  Paul Hood: a an expert in anything.
• 38:17
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 38:17
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 38:17
  Paul Hood: Right.
• 38:18
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 38:18
  Paul Hood: I believe yeah.
• 38:19
  Paul Hood: That's in the outliers, the book The Outliers, which is amazing book.
• 38:23
  Paul Hood: And and you'll see for me that that I quote
• 38:27
  Paul Hood: books all the time.
• 38:28
  Paul Hood: I quote your book all the time.
• 38:30
  Paul Hood: And and because I I don't want people to see it's not
• 38:34
  Paul Hood: me.
• 38:35
  Paul Hood: You know?
• 38:35
  Paul Hood: I I just have learned things, and I intentional.
• 38:39
  Paul Hood: I I sent you this note, you know, that I sent to my boys
• 38:43
  Paul Hood: this morning or the other morning that my my my
• 38:47
  Paul Hood: hope for them that is at one point at some point in time in
• 38:51
  Paul Hood: their life, they have a goal and and or a purpose
• 38:55
  Paul Hood: that is so big that it scares them.
• 38:58
  Paul Hood: That that, they know if they complete this,
• 39:02
  Paul Hood: it has to be got.
• 39:03
  Paul Hood: There's no way they could have done it themselves.
• 39:06
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 39:07
  Paul Hood: And Yes.
• 39:08
  Paul Hood: But what it does is it it puts you in a position to where
• 39:12
  Paul Hood: you can't quit.
• 39:13
  Paul Hood: You you can't you know, because there's so many people relying on you
• 39:17
  Paul Hood: that you do.
• 39:18
  Paul Hood: And that's basically my life.
• 39:20
  Paul Hood: From the beginning of of this amazingly beautiful woman that I
• 39:24
  Paul Hood: did not deserve to have, to my kids, to my grandkids, to
• 39:28
  Paul Hood: the the calling is it's so much bigger than me.
• 39:32
  Paul Hood: That's gotta be God.
• 39:33
  Paul Hood: And
• 39:34
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 39:35
  Paul Hood: I want that for my kids.
• 39:36
  Paul Hood: And, you know, and that's a that's a worry for people.
• 39:39
  Paul Hood: I don't know if you've thought about this.
• 39:40
  Paul Hood: I'm sure you have.
• 39:41
  Paul Hood: But,
• 39:43
  Paul Hood: on one hand, I I get very emotional thinking about what I missed
• 39:47
  Paul Hood: out having not having my dad around or, you know, the
• 39:51
  Paul Hood: times, you know, I my mom, who was an angel at the end of
• 39:54
  Paul Hood: her life, but, you know, she'd take me to beer joints.
• 39:58
  Paul Hood: And, you know, I'd be around drunk people and cigarettes
• 40:02
  Paul Hood: and pool.
• 40:02
  Paul Hood: I can hear and but, Lisa, that's what made me me.
• 40:07
  Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
• 40:08
  Lisa Nichols: And Yeah.
• 40:09
  Paul Hood: I don't regret it.
• 40:10
  Paul Hood: I I regret it, but I don't regret it.
• 40:13
  Lisa Nichols: Well, if you hadn't gone through those things, Paul, you might not be the
• 40:15
  Lisa Nichols: person you are today.
• 40:16
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 40:17
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 40:17
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you know, be yes.
• 40:20
  Lisa Nichols: I but I just love that.
• 40:21
  Lisa Nichols: And I think you are so right that, yes, we are our biggest asset,
• 40:25
  Lisa Nichols: but we can also be our biggest roadblock.
• 40:27
  Paul Hood: The roadblock.
• 40:28
  Paul Hood: Hundred percent.
• 40:29
  Lisa Nichols: You could be the roadblock.
• 40:30
  Lisa Nichols: So,
• 40:33
  Lisa Nichols: gosh, I've got so much here that I want to to talk about.
• 40:38
  Lisa Nichols: You know, this is cool.
• 40:40
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, your boys now are, you know, not just your sons,
• 40:44
  Lisa Nichols: but they're also with you in the business Yep.
• 40:47
  Lisa Nichols: Which is really cool.
• 40:48
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 40:50
  Lisa Nichols: You know, is there, like, one particular like, if there is a listener
• 40:54
  Lisa Nichols: out there, Paul, and they're thinking about possibly bringing their
• 40:58
  Lisa Nichols: children into the business, because sometimes, I mean, sometimes that works and sometimes it
• 41:02
  Lisa Nichols: doesn't.
• 41:02
  Lisa Nichols: Sure.
• 41:03
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 41:03
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 41:04
  Lisa Nichols: I've seen the generational thing does not work sometimes.
• 41:07
  Lisa Nichols: You know, is there one piece of advice that you would give them?
• 41:10
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, like, as the founder, this was your baby, but what what had
• 41:14
  Lisa Nichols: to change in you, you know, to to make room for for your boys
• 41:18
  Lisa Nichols: to be in in the business?
• 41:20
  Paul Hood: Well, you know, I don't know that I ever even thought that they would
• 41:23
  Paul Hood: come into business with me, you know, and and they kinda I kind of,
• 41:27
  Paul Hood: tricked them because
• 41:29
  Lisa Nichols: You tricked them.
• 41:30
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 41:31
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 41:31
  Paul Hood: Because, you know, I coached everything.
• 41:33
  Paul Hood: I coached them in sports, and I created a pretty good lifestyle.
• 41:36
  Paul Hood: We had a nice house, and and and I coached them.
• 41:40
  Paul Hood: I didn't I I did miss my youngest son still won't let me forget
• 41:43
  Paul Hood: this.
• 41:43
  Paul Hood: I missed one football game in high school, and he gives me all kinds
• 41:48
  Paul Hood: of grief about that.
• 41:49
  Paul Hood: But but back then, the technology didn't exist.
• 41:52
  Paul Hood: So I would work and then do my dad thing and coach him and
• 41:56
  Paul Hood: do all that kind of stuff, and then put them to bed.
• 41:59
  Paul Hood: And then I'd go back to work at eleven, twelve o'clock until two, three
• 42:03
  Paul Hood: o'clock in the morning.
• 42:04
  Paul Hood: And it was just a price I I wanted to pay.
• 42:07
  Paul Hood: Well so what they saw, Lisa, was this great lifestyle, and dude
• 42:11
  Paul Hood: only works forty hours a week.
• 42:12
  Paul Hood: Let's go.
• 42:15
  Paul Hood: But the the thing that I would tell people is there's a separation
• 42:20
  Paul Hood: between if I'm a dad or not and
• 42:24
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 42:24
  Paul Hood: To a degree.
• 42:25
  Paul Hood: But the reality is is I'm harder on my sons than I am on
• 42:29
  Paul Hood: anybody else.
• 42:30
  Paul Hood: I've told them, your last name is Hood, so there's more expected
• 42:34
  Paul Hood: of you.
• 42:34
  Paul Hood: You will get every one of my sons have started off answering the phone,
• 42:39
  Paul Hood: you know, shredding, copying.
• 42:42
  Paul Hood: I've never given my sons an allowance, because I have a big fear,
• 42:46
  Paul Hood: Lisa.
• 42:46
  Paul Hood: Like what I was saying earlier, the struggle that I went through, I
• 42:50
  Paul Hood: didn't know it was struggle.
• 42:52
  Paul Hood: It made me who I am.
• 42:54
  Paul Hood: And I don't want the lack of struggle for them to make them
• 42:58
  Paul Hood: who they become.
• 43:00
  Paul Hood: And so, I don't know how other than, you know,
• 43:04
  Paul Hood: divine interference because they're all three just amazing
• 43:08
  Paul Hood: young men, great fathers, great parents,
• 43:13
  Paul Hood: serving, God.
• 43:14
  Paul Hood: And and so, I didn't give to them.
• 43:19
  Paul Hood: I made them earn what they get.
• 43:22
  Paul Hood: They acknowledge that they had a you know, they may have been born on
• 43:25
  Paul Hood: third base.
• 43:26
  Paul Hood: Now my first one, we were poor, so he he was probably born on
• 43:29
  Paul Hood: in the dugout, if you will.
• 43:32
  Paul Hood: But just because you're born on third base doesn't mean you had a triple.
• 43:36
  Paul Hood: But they know they know, even to the point of, you
• 43:40
  Paul Hood: know, we're creating some pretty significant inherit you know, wealth.
• 43:43
  Paul Hood: And I've told them, don't count on inheriting anything.
• 43:47
  Paul Hood: Now my grandkids, that's a different story.
• 43:49
  Paul Hood: They're they're That's new.
• 43:51
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 43:51
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 43:52
  Lisa Nichols: There may be some trust funds there.
• 43:54
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 43:54
  Lisa Nichols: But, yeah, no.
• 43:55
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, we've told our kids the same thing, you know.
• 43:57
  Lisa Nichols: And, I mean, we wanna, build into the kingdom.
• 44:00
  Lisa Nichols: We wanna, you know, give away.
• 44:02
  Lisa Nichols: But
• 44:02
  Paul Hood: They've gotta
• 44:02
  Lisa Nichols: earn it.
• 44:04
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 44:04
  Lisa Nichols: I just remember you just reminded me long time ago,
• 44:09
  Lisa Nichols: Paul, I heard Crawford Larrutz speak.
• 44:12
  Lisa Nichols: And his son was speaking alongside him and,
• 44:17
  Lisa Nichols: kind of the same thing.
• 44:18
  Lisa Nichols: He said, you know I mean, he goes, at the time, he goes, I'm
• 44:22
  Lisa Nichols: like, what?
• 44:23
  Lisa Nichols: You know, he goes, dad wouldn't help me with college.
• 44:25
  Lisa Nichols: He wouldn't help me.
• 44:26
  Lisa Nichols: But he said, you know, what I realize now is dad
• 44:30
  Lisa Nichols: refused to remove the struggle.
• 44:32
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 44:33
  Lisa Nichols: Because there is something really transformational that happens in the
• 44:37
  Lisa Nichols: struggle.
• 44:37
  Paul Hood: Unearned wealth is always negative.
• 44:39
  Paul Hood: Always.
• 44:40
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 44:40
  Paul Hood: You know, if you if you research people that won the win the lottery,
• 44:45
  Paul Hood: vast majority of them say it's the worst thing that's ever happened to them.
• 44:49
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 44:49
  Paul Hood: And and so we're focused on financial counseling as where well, it's tax.
• 44:53
  Paul Hood: And so, you know, somebody comes in and, hey.
• 44:55
  Paul Hood: I my mom died.
• 44:56
  Paul Hood: I inherited a hundred thousand dollars.
• 44:59
  Paul Hood: I'm a pay off my credit cards.
• 45:01
  Paul Hood: I tell them don't do it, Lisa.
• 45:03
  Paul Hood: You put that money in the bank, and Dave Ramsey may get upset with
• 45:06
  Paul Hood: me, but I don't think so.
• 45:07
  Paul Hood: Because I tell them, you gotta go six months.
• 45:09
  Paul Hood: You show me six months or a year to where you don't charge those
• 45:13
  Paul Hood: credit cards up, then pay them off.
• 45:16
  Paul Hood: Because within five years, you're gonna be back.
• 45:18
  Paul Hood: And
• 45:19
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 45:19
  Lisa Nichols: Back to those habits.
• 45:21
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 45:21
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 45:21
  Paul Hood: So you you've gotta create opportunities
• 45:25
  Paul Hood: for your kids to struggle.
• 45:26
  Paul Hood: You've gotta create opportunities for them to learn.
• 45:29
  Paul Hood: And in my industry, it's great because they've gotta take all these tests and
• 45:34
  Paul Hood: become licensed and do this.
• 45:35
  Paul Hood: And so they there is a badge of honor that they passed, you
• 45:39
  Paul Hood: know, these tests and and to be a financial planner and a CPA and
• 45:44
  Paul Hood: all of that.
• 45:44
  Paul Hood: But you
• 45:45
  Lisa Nichols: just Right.
• 45:46
  Paul Hood: It's it's, it's a hard thing.
• 45:48
  Paul Hood: It really is not to,
• 45:51
  Paul Hood: take away their pain, take away their struggle, but you
• 45:55
  Paul Hood: are hurting them big time.
• 45:57
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 45:57
  Lisa Nichols: That's such great advice.
• 45:59
  Lisa Nichols: That is such great advice.
• 46:00
  Lisa Nichols: I love that.
• 46:01
  Lisa Nichols: Well, thank you.
• 46:02
  Lisa Nichols: Thank you for sharing that.
• 46:03
  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
• 46:04
  Lisa Nichols: There's so many things other things, but I know that we're, running out of
• 46:08
  Lisa Nichols: time here.
• 46:10
  Lisa Nichols: You know, I mean, you know, I'm just gonna tell our listeners.
• 46:13
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you're very deeply invested in a community.
• 46:16
  Lisa Nichols: You know, giving back is really important to both you and Lori.
• 46:19
  Lisa Nichols: You've done things with the boy scouts, arts council, employee education
• 46:23
  Lisa Nichols: ministry, big brothers, big sisters.
• 46:25
  Lisa Nichols: The list goes on.
• 46:26
  Lisa Nichols: It's important.
• 46:27
  Lisa Nichols: Yep.
• 46:27
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 46:28
  Lisa Nichols: You know, I was gonna ask you what grounds you when the stakes are
• 46:32
  Lisa Nichols: high, but I think I know what grounds you.
• 46:33
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 46:34
  Lisa Nichols: We've already talked about it.
• 46:36
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 46:36
  Lisa Nichols: Go to the the book.
• 46:37
  Paul Hood: The book.
• 46:38
  Lisa Nichols: Okay.
• 46:38
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 46:39
  Lisa Nichols: Go to the book, people.
• 46:40
  Lisa Nichols: Go to the book.
• 46:42
  Lisa Nichols: Go to prayer.
• 46:43
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 46:45
  Lisa Nichols: So let me ask you this.
• 46:46
  Lisa Nichols: What okay.
• 46:47
  Lisa Nichols: For somebody listener out there that is building a business today
• 46:52
  Lisa Nichols: and they feel this overwhelmed by growth, competition,
• 46:56
  Lisa Nichols: comparison, what advice would you give to them, Paul?
• 46:59
  Paul Hood: Well and and I don't know, Lisa, if if this is a point to
• 47:02
  Paul Hood: where I can tie into where, you know, the something extra type scenario.
• 47:07
  Paul Hood: So here's what I learned.
• 47:09
  Paul Hood: First off, there's two things.
• 47:10
  Paul Hood: One, like we established earlier, you're your own best
• 47:15
  Paul Hood: asset.
• 47:16
  Paul Hood: So if you're not do getting up every day
• 47:21
  Paul Hood: with an attitude that I'm gonna win today physically, emotionally, spiritually,
• 47:25
  Paul Hood: and financially.
• 47:26
  Paul Hood: Meaning Mhmm.
• 47:28
  Paul Hood: I I get up in the mornings and I'm
• 47:29
  Lisa Nichols: Say that again.
• 47:30
  Lisa Nichols: Keep Say that again.
• 47:31
  Lisa Nichols: What are the pillars?
• 47:32
  Paul Hood: The pillars are gonna be you you gotta get up and win the day
• 47:35
  Paul Hood: physically, emotionally, spiritually, and financially.
• 47:40
  Paul Hood: So regardless of what happens, you have to have habits of taking
• 47:44
  Paul Hood: care of your body.
• 47:45
  Paul Hood: You've gotta be reading everything you can get your hands
• 47:49
  Paul Hood: on.
• 47:50
  Paul Hood: And there's lists.
• 47:51
  Paul Hood: There's people, you know, to be a better person because you can't
• 47:55
  Paul Hood: grow.
• 47:56
  Paul Hood: I'm not equipped to run a business today that does a hundred million dollars.
• 48:00
  Paul Hood: So I am just devouring,
• 48:03
  Paul Hood: work.
• 48:03
  Paul Hood: And I'll tell you, you need to go further than just reading.
• 48:07
  Paul Hood: I go through and I mark the books and flag them and mark this
• 48:10
  Paul Hood: is your book.
• 48:11
  Paul Hood: This is one of my favorite new books, and I mark it.
• 48:14
  Paul Hood: And I've got an assistant now that will go in and type my notes.
• 48:17
  Paul Hood: I've got notebooks.
• 48:18
  Paul Hood: So
• 48:20
  Paul Hood: treat reading and everything as like you're in college.
• 48:24
  Paul Hood: Never stop learning.
• 48:27
  Paul Hood: And the key though, Lisa, to this whole story
• 48:31
  Paul Hood: is when I when I lost my grandchild, I'm out went through divorce,
• 48:36
  Paul Hood: and Don Marie Colos smacked me in the eye with with it's not about
• 48:40
  Paul Hood: you.
• 48:41
  Paul Hood: And then I read another book by Andy Stanley.
• 48:44
  Paul Hood: It's called Better Decisions, Pure Regrets.
• 48:47
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 48:48
  Lisa Nichols: You recommended that book to me, and I've got that book and have been
• 48:51
  Lisa Nichols: reading that.
• 48:51
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 48:52
  Paul Hood: Well, one of the last questions it's a series of five questions, and it's
• 48:55
  Paul Hood: great.
• 48:56
  Paul Hood: It's not it's a faith based book, but everybody should read that book just
• 48:59
  Paul Hood: like everybody should read your book because it's it goes beyond.
• 49:03
  Paul Hood: It's it's it's it's developing as a person.
• 49:05
  Paul Hood: But one of the questions, Lisa, that he says, what does love
• 49:10
  Paul Hood: require of me?
• 49:12
  Paul Hood: And
• 49:14
  Paul Hood: I also read another book.
• 49:15
  Paul Hood: It's called Living Life Backwards.
• 49:18
  Paul Hood: And and God took me through all of these steps and all these books
• 49:22
  Paul Hood: and one called Visioneering by I think it was by Andy Stanley also.
• 49:27
  Paul Hood: And the the total focus is is
• 49:31
  Paul Hood: it's not about me.
• 49:33
  Paul Hood: Lisa, if you wanna be if if you wanna create greatness in this world,
• 49:38
  Paul Hood: it's not about you.
• 49:39
  Paul Hood: If you wanna have a great marriage, it's not about you.
• 49:44
  Paul Hood: It's not.
• 49:44
  Paul Hood: And if you wanna have great kids, it's not about you.
• 49:48
  Paul Hood: You get home at night and you're tired, get your butt up off the
• 49:50
  Paul Hood: couch and go wrestle with them.
• 49:51
  Paul Hood: Go play.
• 49:52
  Paul Hood: Play games.
• 49:53
  Paul Hood: Read to them.
• 49:54
  Paul Hood: If you wanna have a great business, it's not about you.
• 49:58
  Paul Hood: It's it's about helping other people and Serving your people.
• 50:02
  Paul Hood: Exactly.
• 50:03
  Paul Hood: Mhmm.
• 50:04
  Paul Hood: And what I found and and it's just so amazing.
• 50:08
  Paul Hood: There is no fear of failure,
• 50:11
  Paul Hood: Lisa, because it's not about me.
• 50:14
  Paul Hood: It it whatever god wants me to do and people always talk about, well,
• 50:18
  Paul Hood: what's God's will for my life?
• 50:19
  Paul Hood: God's will for your life is in the book.
• 50:21
  Paul Hood: And in the book, he says abide in me, and that means seek his
• 50:24
  Paul Hood: word every day.
• 50:26
  Paul Hood: And work and love and and you lead with love,
• 50:31
  Paul Hood: and you can't fail.
• 50:32
  Paul Hood: Because there in that moment, Lisa, when when I was holding
• 50:36
  Paul Hood: my son's head thinking I got nobody,
• 50:41
  Paul Hood: then I realized I've always had somebody.
• 50:45
  Paul Hood: And the the crazy thing is and right now, Lisa, I'll just tell you,
• 50:49
  Paul Hood: any man listening to this is thinking about divorce, you call me.
• 50:52
  Paul Hood: I'll give you my personal cell phone number.
• 50:54
  Paul Hood: You call me because it's a lie.
• 50:56
  Paul Hood: It's a lie.
• 50:57
  Paul Hood: I Lori and I, she thinks I'm a freak now.
• 51:00
  Paul Hood: I just I just stare at her, because
• 51:04
  Paul Hood: when you get to a point to where it's not about you,
• 51:08
  Paul Hood: life is great.
• 51:10
  Paul Hood: You know, that that book, Living Life Backwards, it talks about some
• 51:14
  Paul Hood: of the happiest people on the planet have a terminal disease.
• 51:17
  Paul Hood: They don't worry about somebody cut them off in traffic.
• 51:20
  Paul Hood: They don't worry about this and that.
• 51:22
  Paul Hood: They they see the moment as joy.
• 51:25
  Lisa Nichols: They live in the present.
• 51:27
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 51:28
  Lisa Nichols: So And every moment's a gift.
• 51:30
  Lisa Nichols: Yep.
• 51:30
  Lisa Nichols: You're looking at her when you're staring at her now, Paul.
• 51:33
  Lisa Nichols: You're looking at her and just thanking God for the gift.
• 51:36
  Paul Hood: Oh my gosh.
• 51:36
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 51:37
  Paul Hood: Well and and so but it it it permeates my entire life.
• 51:41
  Paul Hood: And if somebody wants to know the secret to success, it's those
• 51:45
  Paul Hood: words, is is to read and and be
• 51:49
  Paul Hood: understand it's not about me.
• 51:51
  Paul Hood: Because what does Jesus say?
• 51:52
  Paul Hood: You know, we as humans kind of pollute Christianity.
• 51:57
  Paul Hood: Jesus says, love God, love your neighbor.
• 52:00
  Paul Hood: And then he directs us to be his disciple by abiding in the spirit.
• 52:03
  Paul Hood: And if you abide in the spirit means read his word and be with
• 52:06
  Paul Hood: him all the time.
• 52:07
  Paul Hood: You do that, and you get what's called the fruit of the spirit, which
• 52:10
  Paul Hood: is love, Lisa.
• 52:12
  Paul Hood: Yes.
• 52:13
  Paul Hood: And when you look and I've got a one final story to tell you,
• 52:17
  Paul Hood: that is just the most amazing thing that one of the most amazing things
• 52:21
  Paul Hood: that's ever happened to me.
• 52:23
  Paul Hood: And,
• 52:24
  Paul Hood: and it all happened after this, after God showed me, it's not about
• 52:29
  Paul Hood: you.
• 52:30
  Paul Hood: Every fight I've ever had with my wife, it's because I'm thinking of me.
• 52:34
  Paul Hood: Every disagreement in business, at work, I'm thinking about me.
• 52:37
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 52:38
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 52:38
  Paul Hood: Stop it.
• 52:39
  Paul Hood: Just relax.
• 52:40
  Paul Hood: It doesn't mean it's gonna go away.
• 52:42
  Paul Hood: So one day, I'm in, in Starbucks,
• 52:47
  Paul Hood: and and this guy walks in.
• 52:48
  Paul Hood: He's obviously homeless.
• 52:50
  Paul Hood: And,
• 52:53
  Paul Hood: I I just go I felt god said, go buy him some food or
• 52:56
  Paul Hood: whatever.
• 52:57
  Paul Hood: And so I went over and said, hey, brother.
• 52:59
  Paul Hood: You want something?
• 53:00
  Paul Hood: He said, yeah.
• 53:01
  Paul Hood: And he said, thank you.
• 53:02
  Paul Hood: And he he got this little protein bar.
• 53:05
  Paul Hood: I said, oh, no.
• 53:06
  Paul Hood: I said, let's go.
• 53:07
  Paul Hood: Let's go.
• 53:07
  Paul Hood: Get you a sandwich, a drink, a cup sandwich.
• 53:09
  Paul Hood: I got him a gift card thinking I've done some really
• 53:13
  Paul Hood: good stuff here, Lisa.
• 53:17
  Paul Hood: And he says, sir, may I ask your name?
• 53:21
  Paul Hood: And and I said, my name is Paul.
• 53:26
  Paul Hood: And Lisa, I said, what's your name?
• 53:30
  Paul Hood: Lisa, his name was Dennis.
• 53:33
  Paul Hood: Dennis was my father's name who was homeless most of his life.
• 53:38
  Paul Hood: Oh, wow.
• 53:40
  Paul Hood: And in that moment, when I'm thinking, look at me.
• 53:44
  Paul Hood: I've done something really good.
• 53:45
  Paul Hood: God showed me a gift.
• 53:48
  Paul Hood: I just hugged the man, and I'm sure he thought I was a freak
• 53:52
  Paul Hood: because tears started flowing.
• 53:56
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 53:57
  Paul Hood: And that's the epitome.
• 53:58
  Paul Hood: It's not about me.
• 53:59
  Paul Hood: But you know what?
• 54:00
  Paul Hood: When it when it's not about you,
• 54:03
  Paul Hood: that's when you find joy.
• 54:05
  Paul Hood: That's when you find contentment.
• 54:06
  Paul Hood: That's when you find success.
• 54:09
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 54:10
  Paul Hood: And it's not about me.
• 54:12
  Lisa Nichols: And Yeah.
• 54:12
  Lisa Nichols: But, Paul, you know, I'm just thinking, you know, here's the thing.
• 54:16
  Lisa Nichols: You had your eyes open, your ears open, your heart open.
• 54:21
  Lisa Nichols: You know, it's not about me.
• 54:22
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, just really, truly you know, you could have missed that.
• 54:25
  Lisa Nichols: Yep.
• 54:26
  Lisa Nichols: You could have missed that man so easily.
• 54:28
  Lisa Nichols: And how many times do we walk into Starbucks and we miss it?
• 54:32
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 54:33
  Lisa Nichols: But when you're in tune, when you're walking,
• 54:37
  Lisa Nichols: you know, the holy spirit will prompt you.
• 54:40
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 54:40
  Lisa Nichols: And then you acted on that.
• 54:42
  Lisa Nichols: You know, you're obedient to what you
• 54:43
  Paul Hood: have to do.
• 54:44
  Paul Hood: Wife, with your husband, with your kids, with your work.
• 54:48
  Paul Hood: Just stop.
• 54:50
  Paul Hood: It's not about you.
• 54:51
  Paul Hood: You'll get yours.
• 54:52
  Paul Hood: You create goals.
• 54:53
  Paul Hood: It's the old Zig Ziglar.
• 54:55
  Paul Hood: We wanna be earthly.
• 54:56
  Paul Hood: Zig Ziglar said, you help you'll get what you want in life.
• 54:59
  Paul Hood: If you open up, other people get what they want.
• 55:00
  Lisa Nichols: Person get what they want.
• 55:02
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 55:02
  Lisa Nichols: One of my favorites.
• 55:03
  Paul Hood: It's all it's all biblical, and it's real simple.
• 55:05
  Paul Hood: It's right there in the book.
• 55:07
  Paul Hood: Love.
• 55:07
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 55:07
  Paul Hood: Lead with love.
• 55:08
  Paul Hood: It's not about you.
• 55:10
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 55:11
  Lisa Nichols: That is so good.
• 55:12
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I love it, and I don't think I've ever had anybody say that
• 55:15
  Lisa Nichols: that that's the something extra.
• 55:17
  Lisa Nichols: So thank you so much for that.
• 55:19
  Lisa Nichols: You know, I just wanna tell our listeners because I know because I've gotten
• 55:23
  Lisa Nichols: pictures of you on your your elliptical or your treadmill with
• 55:27
  Lisa Nichols: a book Yep.
• 55:28
  Lisa Nichols: There.
• 55:29
  Lisa Nichols: But you read all the time, Paul.
• 55:31
  Lisa Nichols: And if our listeners would get the book, Roadkill
• 55:35
  Lisa Nichols: Tastes Like Chicken by Paul Hood, in the back I love this.
• 55:39
  Lisa Nichols: You have the whole suggested reading.
• 55:41
  Lisa Nichols: And Paul's got a whole list of books in the back.
• 55:45
  Lisa Nichols: I've read many of them.
• 55:46
  Lisa Nichols: Some, I have not.
• 55:47
  Lisa Nichols: So I'm gonna be, checking some of those out, but you've got,
• 55:51
  Lisa Nichols: like, pages and pages of
• 55:52
  Paul Hood: books
• 55:52
  Lisa Nichols: here Yep.
• 55:54
  Lisa Nichols: Recommended reading.
• 55:54
  Lisa Nichols: But, yeah, I know that you are that physical.
• 55:57
  Lisa Nichols: You're you're working out every day.
• 55:59
  Lisa Nichols: You have a, you know, some equipment in your home.
• 56:02
  Lisa Nichols: You're working out every day.
• 56:03
  Lisa Nichols: You're working your mind.
• 56:05
  Lisa Nichols: You're definitely spending time in the word, and, I just I love
• 56:09
  Lisa Nichols: I've just loved every bit of our, conversation here, and there's
• 56:14
  Lisa Nichols: so much more we could talk about.
• 56:15
  Lisa Nichols: We we may have to do a part two.
• 56:17
  Paul Hood: I would love that.
• 56:17
  Paul Hood: I would love that.
• 56:18
  Paul Hood: You know?
• 56:19
  Paul Hood: I wanna talk about everybody writing a book.
• 56:22
  Paul Hood: You know?
• 56:22
  Paul Hood: I was told, Nick, I can't pronounce his last name.
• 56:26
  Paul Hood: He was at ninety four
• 56:27
  Lisa Nichols: eight.
• 56:27
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 56:28
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 56:29
  Paul Hood: Yeah.
• 56:29
  Paul Hood: I believe he told me that the the biggest library in the world
• 56:34
  Paul Hood: is in a, cemetery.
• 56:38
  Paul Hood: There's so much knowledge that people die with.
• 56:42
  Paul Hood: Everybody should write a book.
• 56:44
  Paul Hood: You change one person's life, and that ripple effect through humanity
• 56:48
  Paul Hood: is huge.
• 56:50
  Paul Hood: Yep.
• 56:50
  Lisa Nichols: It's so huge.
• 56:51
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 56:51
  Lisa Nichols: I love it.
• 56:52
  Lisa Nichols: Well, Paul, thank you so much for making the time.
• 56:55
  Lisa Nichols: I know how busy you are, and I can't wait to see you in
• 56:58
  Lisa Nichols: person again.
• 56:58
  Paul Hood: Take care.
• 56:59
  Lisa Nichols: Either you got you and Laurie come to Saint Louis or Greg and I
• 57:02
  Lisa Nichols: will come to Tulsa.
• 57:03
  Paul Hood: Absolutely.
• 57:03
  Paul Hood: I love that.
• 57:04
  Paul Hood: Let's make it happen.
• 57:05
  Lisa Nichols: Okay.
• 57:06
  Paul Hood: Alright.
• 57:07
  Paul Hood: You're a blessing.
• 57:08
  Paul Hood: I appreciate you.
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