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- 7evenThirty: boy, it's all coming back PropJosh: So the Odyssey. 7evenThirty: to you. PropJosh: So we're here. jason: my goodness. PropJosh: So we're going to talk about the Odyssey. All right. So wait. jason: my goodness. PropJosh: Wait a minute. 7evenThirty: Someone's a little late. jason: Josh was mad. Josh was mad that he he had to watch our talk about the Odyssey. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. jason: While he was on a plane away, while he was on a plane coming from Hawaii. PropJosh: Yeah, you say it like it's a good thing because I I you know, I told y'all this there was this guy, this short man, skinny man leaning all on my shoulder while I was watching jason: Yeah. PropJosh: y'all review and he's all watching it with me. But I got my headphones on. I guess so. jason: Well, at least we got a new fan. Yeah, at least we got a new fan. 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: Cause he was like staring at it. I'm like, keep like this guy did not believe in personal space and he was all watching y'all, not knowing who y'all are with no headphones on. jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: He he and he's engaged. He's all into it too. I don't know what that was about. jason: Maybe he was a fan of seven 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: thirty, you know, he'd be like, that's seven thirty, you know, he was listening to his music. Why would he know me? No, say he watched the video. He could 7evenThirty: Why it gotta be cause of 'cause of me. It could have been a fan of prop jar. I don't know shit. PropJosh: Well if he was a fan, well, maybe he was a fan of me because he was all on my shoulder breathing down my neck. jason: He's obviously a fan of you. PropJosh: Yeah. my quick review of 7evenThirty: Is that you there? PropJosh: my quick review of the Odyssey. I thought it was awesome. I also give it a sequel, like y'all did. Favorite characters jason: Okay. PropJosh: is a little harder because y'all named a lot of good characters. I was like, damn, every all these characters were good. But for me, jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: I would threw in Robert Pattison. 'Cause I thought he was a pretty good villain 'cause I hated him and I usually jason: Yeah. PropJosh: don't hate him in movies. And I was like, I hate this asshole. I kinda like him But jason: You like to hate him. PropJosh: I like yeah, I like to hate him, but yeah, I guess I like Od Odysseus was probably my favorite. and maybe John Leguizamo, he did really good because he he was very jason: Okay. PropJosh: serious and yeah. But you know, honorably mention Zendea as as Athena given that disappointed look. jason: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a meme. Meme, meme, meme, meme. Yeah. That's PropJosh: So jason: the face she gives. sp that's the face she's been given. PropJosh: I felt like she gives me that face every time I do something crazy. Just jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah. We all need a Athena. We we yeah, we all need that Athena jason: The disappointed face. Yes. PropJosh: on our shoulder every time we do something about to do something crazy. She just yeah, just looking at you. jason: Mathina on your shirt. Don't even say nothing. 7evenThirty: Make make jason: Just look at you. 7evenThirty: a a refrigerator magnet out of it. jason: Mm-hmm. Just like mm. Stand next to the PropJosh: right. I'll put her in my refrigerator 7evenThirty: With no words on it, just that face. PropJosh: instead of the other dude. Every time I'm about to get something jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: d something that shouldn't be eaten, got her disappointed look at me. You gonna 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: eat that? 7evenThirty: For a while I had there's a book I have that's got Prince on it's about Prince and he's on the cover he's given this like d attitude look. And jason: Mm. 7evenThirty: I used to have it when I was practicing guitar. I would have him in the corner looking at me in disappointment. So it'll motivate me to get better. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: Yep. PropJosh: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: Speaking of looks of disappointment. jason: And Zendaya. What are we talking about this time? 7evenThirty: And Zendaya and PropJosh: Yeah. Yeah. We are talking about the new Zendaya movie. Spider-Man Brand New Day starring Zendaya. 7evenThirty: Like Tom Allen was it. Odyssey. jason: Yep. Yeah, exactly. We even mentioned Tom Holland. He was also an Odyssey. So PropJosh: And I like this character in there too. 7evenThirty: And your boy, John B John Bernthal. PropJosh: John Berthaw. jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They all they all Yeah. PropJosh: So yeah, the s it's yeah, they just walked over to the next set. 7evenThirty: Right. jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: So let's introduce ourselves. I am Josh, aka Prop Josh, joined by Jason, aka Smiley. jason: What else? PropJosh: And Marcus, aka seven thirty. 7evenThirty: What it do? PropJosh: So yeah, let's talk about this movie. We don't got no time to waste, do we? jason: Yeah, y'all just literally walked out the theater and watched it just a few minutes ago. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, we all I was the last one. So this is different because 7evenThirty: Did we all see this today? jason: I watched it yesterday, actually. 7evenThirty: okay. PropJosh: So what Josh got this time, I don't know if y'all see this. jason: I always got something. 7evenThirty: Ain't nobody asked what the hell Josh get yeah, what he got? PropJosh: I don't know if y'all see my three figures right here. jason: course. 7evenThirty: I see Spider Man, the Hulk, and the Punishelle. PropJosh: Yo Guys, we're in a movie. 7evenThirty: And then a big ass Spider Man. PropJosh: Yep. jason: It's a really good Punisher. 7evenThirty: Hell yeah, he looks like just like that motherfucker. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, it is. He really does. 7evenThirty: John Burnthal. jason: Yep. 7evenThirty: I ain't say you guys can use my likeness on the action figure. Who the fuck is Josh jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: anyway? jason: He seems like he just plays the Punisher as himself. I feel like that's his, that's who he is. PropJosh: But it feel it definitely feels like that. Then I got Spider Man. Specifically for the brand new day. 7evenThirty: Is that the brand new day, Spider Man? PropJosh: Yeah, that's specifically the brand new day Spider-Man. his colors a little darker. And then jason: made that one. PropJosh: huh? Which is jason: who made that toy. PropJosh: these are all Marvel Legends, Hasbro. jason: you PropJosh: And then Hulk, big giant angry Hulk. Which one jason: Ultimate Hulk. PropJosh: Yeah, this one kinda grew on me because I I I saw it at the store, I didn't really want it, and then when I bought it, I was like, yeah, this is an awesome ass Hulk. 'Cause 7evenThirty: Yeah, he's huge. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: he's the biggest Hulk I got, I think. So yeah. That's what I have with these guys. jason: Those are all new figures. PropJosh: Yeah, these are all new. 'Cause otherwise I'll bring out my MJ figure 'cause she's in the movie too. And my Ned. But they're old. So jason: Josh McShawing off his action figures for the last 40 years. Yep. That's PropJosh: Yeah. jason: what he does. PropJosh: So we don't have to talk about what we thought of the last Spider Man movie 'cause there's a whole podcast about it. jason: we did have a podcast about it. Go listen to PropJosh: But jason: it. PropJosh: but we did well, me and Marcus both rewatched No Way Home. 7evenThirty: Yeah, like last night I watched No Way Home. Like yesterday. Mm-hmm. And it's Yeah, yeah. The juxtaposition jason: And wow. Okay. Approaching. Interesting. I would love to see the juxtaposition of how you feel about the tune back to back like that. PropJosh: Yeah, I watched it last night as well. 7evenThirty: was juxtaposizing real nicely. It was it was real nicely. jason: Mmm. PropJosh: rewatching it, especially 'cause the movie is five years old now, which I is crazy. jason: Right. PropJosh: It still feels like it's kinda new. And I I think I haven't watched it in like two and a half years. And jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: re watching it, I love Doctor 7evenThirty: Same. PropJosh: Strange. I think he was my favorite character in the movie. Yeah. 7evenThirty: Absolutely. Yeah. I really do relate I think that if I was any character in the Marvel universe I would probably be Doctor Strange. I relate to him a lot. jason: Yeah, PropJosh: He was annoyed a lot, but he was hilarious. 7evenThirty: Yeah, he was so annoyed with the teenagers. But he had to but he PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: he was friends with them and w once was gonna help them anyway, of course. jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: Like the like his annoying PropJosh: And also re 7evenThirty: nephew. PropJosh: Also rewatching it, I realized all the villains didn't really do nothing until Green Goblin did something. And then it's like as soon as Green Goblin did something, the 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: rest of the villains like, all right, we're out. All right, let's do stuff. Immediately. It's like jason: Hmm. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: they were just kind of on edge waiting for something to happen. Cause jason: Yeah. PropJosh: if Green Goblin never did nothing, none of them would did anything. They only had to contain Doc Ock and once they did that thing to him, he was good for the rest of the movie. jason: Mm-hmm. That's 7evenThirty: Mm. jason: true. PropJosh: But still an A Place still an A plus movie and it was cool to watch it right before Brand New Day. jason: Yeah. So I mean, Spider-Man, think as we get going into the spoilers of stuff, but like, think the, the, the buildup of the Spider-Man franchise is amazing. I watched the, think it was a special on Disney. was like a documentary, like a 30 minute documentary about the Spider-Man's becoming Spider-Man. And so it talked about with interviewed Topin McGuire and Andrew Garfield, of course, Tom, and just seeing the different embodiments over the years and then honoring the different people that love Spider-Man. The world loves Spider-Man. I that's just like, PropJosh: Yes. 7evenThirty: Mm. jason: I think that we talk a little bit about that in different reasons why we believe that the world loves Spider-Man, but I love seeing the memes. That's been something helpful. So. It was funny because 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: I shared it and I shared it as much as I saw it and my algorithm kept feeding me more things. So it was like pictures 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha ha ha. PropJosh: No huh. jason: of like your outfit. like the day before Spider-Man. mean, I was doing it. I PropJosh: Mm-hmm. jason: had my outfit already ready with my pants and my shoes and my Spider-Man shirt set aside. 7evenThirty: But you had you wore spider stuff? jason: I wore a Spider-Man shirt, which is the Spider-Man shirt from Todd McFarlane's drawing, which 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: they they kind of recreate a little bit. And then I had some yellow, I some red shorts in my red and white and black Jordans. And so I was like, I'm ready. PropJosh: So I do remember that day. I remember that day that we all saw Spider Man because we did all watch it the same day. The jason: for the first Spider-Man. PropJosh: first Spider Man, yes. Cause Marcus watched it ahead of us and I think he watched it again with us. and you were dressed up, Jason. Yeah. I think Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause Marcus I remember Mark 7evenThirty: The same day. Yeah. Yeah. jason: Right. In Cinemark. Yeah. PropJosh: being upset about a girl that he liked at the time. 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah, 'cause I went jason: This was 2002. 7evenThirty: Yeah, I think so. PropJosh: Yeah, 'cause I remember jason: May 3rd, 2002, that was the day came out. And I was wearing this suit. PropJosh: Yeah, we saw the day it came out. Marcus was watching it the second time with us, so he already watched it because he was all heartbroken over a girl 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: So he had to watch Spider-Man twice. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. While feeling like Spider Man. jason: That's funny. That's hilarious. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, I definitely remember wearing that. That was before, like, wearing it, I remember wearing that Spiderman suit a couple, because that was yours at first, and then it PropJosh: Yeah. jason: was in the closet for a while, and I wore it because I could fit it. And I wore it a couple times. I think we had it, like, on campus. I mean, at school, high school, and then I wore it for the movie. And I'm like, you know. This was before everybody was cosplaying as much as they do now. PropJosh: Right, 'cause they looked at you crazy. But but for real, I saw a kid and they got better Spider Man costumes now than they did back then. Way better jason: They're way better. Yeah. PropJosh: now. Cause I saw a kid walking around like a little little five year old boy walking around all completely dressed up as Spider Man. I like, That's so cute. That was so cool. I just 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: saw him walking around like Yeah, yeah, real life. Yeah. I walked right jason: like you saw in real life or online. Okay. Nice. PropJosh: past him. We were at the mall right after 'cause we went to see the movie at the mall and just walked past this little Spider Man, completely in Spider jason: Mmm. PropJosh: Man gear. One hundred percent better than your Halloween costume. So it's like they make the costumes way jason: Wow. Yeah. PropJosh: better now. jason: Yeah. I mean, there's been a lot. mean, there's a lot of great costumes. That's one of the good cosplays that you see at the cons and stuff like that. But I'm going to ask this question as we jump into it. But like, why do you think everybody loves Spider-Man? PropJosh: He is the he's everybody he's the everyday well, he's your friendly neighborhood Spider Man. He's the one that everybody relates to. That that's why. jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: I mean, why does everybody relate to him though? jason: Yeah. PropJosh: He has regular problems. And that's the kind of problems that everybody has. Like, you know, he's be s most versions of Spider-Man, he's just trying to make rent while he's battling battling supervillains, you know? jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Like, for me personally, why I like Spider-Man, because you know, Spider-Man's been my favorite superhero since I was a kid. the reason why I like him so much is he he he never wins in his life. It's like he's gonna do the right thing no matter what. even if it sucks for him, but he knows he's gonna do the right thing. And that's what I admire the most about him. Like, his life will be shit. He like he could do better on his own 'cause he got the powers and stuff. Like he can do some stuff, but he's he's like, no, I'm gonna do the right thing every time. jason: Mm-hmm. Yeah, makes sense. Yeah. 7evenThirty: And the right thing is always what sucks for me. PropJosh: Yeah, pretty much. jason: Got to sacrifice, make the sacrifices. 7evenThirty: Apparently. jason: Yeah, no, he's a, I mean, he's, I think that I like it when you see the world like Spider-Man in the movies. So that's like, cause you kind of think of it like the hero that everybody likes, you know, you think about that cares about that city. Cause it's kind of like, it's kind of like. If we think about it, the best way to describe that would be like if we had some kind of a basketball player that the city loved, you know, and that's like the one that everybody loves. It's like, this is one everybody loves. It's hard because everybody's, everybody's got haters too. So that's a thing. PropJosh: Yeah, but well, I mean, that's kind of a good example 'cause when Kobe Bryant died, man, I mean, you know, I'm in LA. W the city mourned for him, for real. But yeah, exactly. And it was more than just a city. Everybody mourned for him, so 'cause like it did feel like you Yeah. So that's a jason: Everybody loved Kobe. Yeah. Yeah. Like you LA or not, everybody do love Kobe. Yeah. That's a good point. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: pretty good example. jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: Yep. Yep. I think that that's a perfect example because he, he, ride or die for his city, you know? And so I think that is where it's like, okay, you know, Spider-Man is New York all day. And that was the thing I was remembering when New York won the, won the NBA. finals, I saw the Spider-Man dude dressed up like Spider-Man, you know, doing some cosplay in the city. That was some of my favorite PropJosh: Right. jason: pictures. I realized that I loved, I really, I was thinking about my favorite superhero and I'm like, I don't think that there's a, I don't know if I can honestly hold a candle to outside us. I know Spider-Man is yours, Josh. Like I know that's obviously like you look behind him. PropJosh: Really? How can you tell? 7evenThirty: Hmm. Hmm. jason: I wasn't wearing his shirt. I would love to see your drawer. and tubs full of Spider-Man action figures. He's got so many different figures. But I 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: yeah, well, well well, yeah. jason: think that like at the end of the day, I really do. think Spider-Man, the excitement that I had building up to watching this, I was like, yeah, Spider-Man is my favorite superhero. Just all of it, like the whole thing. Like, of course I love Miles, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: love Peter Parker, I love everything about Spider-Man. So yeah. 7evenThirty: I agree with with everything. Yeah. Yeah, with with all jason: Let's talk about this movie. You agree? You like them? 7evenThirty: that. Mm-hmm. jason: so PropJosh: I just agree. I mean, what do you like about Spider Man, Marcus? 7evenThirty: God, what do you what do you fightin' special Marcus? jason: He's looking like PropJosh: Ha jason: Spider-Man, but he's looking PropJosh: ha ha ha. jason: like Spider-Punk right now with his afro ass. 7evenThirty: Well Spider Punk, yeah. Spider Punk is PropJosh: Ha ha ha 7evenThirty: probably my favorite version of Spider Man. Yeah. But jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: yeah, I've always liked Spider Man since I was a kid. I I wouldn't I wouldn't say that I recognized him as being my favorite back then, but I always liked him. You know what I mean? I always liked his color scheme, always liked jason: Hmm. Hmm. 7evenThirty: the costume. I liked the fact that he didn't have a cape. I thought that was interesting. I thought it was interesting that he could stick to a wall. That was more interesting than swinging to me. The sticking to the wall was crazy. Like you can go upside PropJosh: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: down. I was always fascinated with that. He PropJosh: Right. 7evenThirty: just had some weird powers, really. PropJosh: Mm-hmm. jason: Hmm. 7evenThirty: and he's just a nerd, yeah. Like, you know, jason: Mmm. 7evenThirty: he's so I related to him as a nerd. and then he's he's pretty awkward about his powers. So That's what I always liked about him. But it was funny back in the day when he was supposed to be a teenager. He had that deep ass voice. Like a Yeah. Yeah. No, the animated one yeah, from the sixties now. Aunt May. I'm just a I'm just PropJosh: Talk about the nineteen sixties Spider Man. My Spider Senses my Spider Senses is Tangling. jason: The first live action one or the cartoon? 7evenThirty: a teenager. jason: On May, I'm just 13 years old. no, I have a pimple. PropJosh: I have to go to high school. I have to study for my test. 7evenThirty: So no, I don't want to get detention because I'm going through puberty. jason: My voice is changing because I puberty 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. jason: almost. I'm afraid. Yeah. Yeah. 7evenThirty: So that that shit was fun. That shit was fun. So, you know, I always liked him and then I ended up my first tattoo was a spider web. And then for a while people were jason: Mmm. 7evenThirty: calling me Spider Man on campus because I had the I was the only kid with a spider web on his elbow. But jason: Mmm. 7evenThirty: many tattoos later, I Spider Man is recognizably my favorite hero. Yeah, that I could point to. jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: Just over time, he's he's always l he's like tried and true hero. And jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: I feel like in this movie he officially becomes that like s that guy. You know what I mean? Like we'll get into it though, yeah. jason: Yeah. That's what we gonna get into it, because that's what we here for. PropJosh: Yep, let's talk about it now. So spoiler spoilers. Spoilers, 'cause there's spoilers, yes. Cause I got spoiled by something. jason: Spoiler alert. Spoiler, spoiler, spoiler. See? Yep, we're dropping this immediately. I didn't. 7evenThirty: Damn. jason: I watched it at 12.30 on Thursday. 7evenThirty: I didn't give sport. jason: So yesterday. So I'm like, I was excited because I got off the internet after I was sharing my memes. And then I said, I'm not watching until I'm getting them back on until I finish. And so 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: I didn't get nothing spoiled. I would like to know what you guys spoiled when we get to the part, but. PropJosh: Okay. It's at the very, very, very, very end. So I was okay through the entire movie till the very jason: okay. PropJosh: very end. And I was like, Wait a minute and I didn't realize I was spoiled. So so I didn't jason: You knew exactly that happened. 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: until it happened. So then I was like so it wasn't too bad. It didn't jason: Okay, so it didn't ruin the movie. PropJosh: ruin the movie for me. It was just something I kinda looked back at like, Ooh, I can't believe folks are spoiling shit on the internet already. jason: They definitely spooling. They showing everything. There's clips, there's pictures, there's images that's not in the trailers. I think that they did good without spooling it through the trailer. They actually did a good job giving you enough 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah, they did. jason: in the trailer without telling you everything about what the movie's about. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: True, but there's a character that shows up in this movie that I think most people knew this character was gonna be there. So all right, let's talk about it. jason: Most people, 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah, let's see let's get in. jason: I didn't know unless they were on the trailer. 7evenThirty: Yeah, let's say it was on PropJosh: Technically they were 7evenThirty: the motherfucking PropJosh: the trailer. 7evenThirty: trailer. I ain't know who the fuck. Let's just get into it. Shit. Spoiler alert. PropJosh: So all right, so this movie, so this movie jason: We gonna talk about it. Spoiler alert. We sit telling PropJosh: picks jason: it. PropJosh: up so this movie picks up exactly where No Way Home left off, and then it just kind of showed what happened over the years. Cause I I d I did too. jason: I love the way they did that. That was great. That was great. That was 7evenThirty: I love that. That was the dopest montage. jason: like, that was so cool. Cause I'm like. 7evenThirty: There was technically a montage, but it was dope. And PropJosh: Yeah, it was. 7evenThirty: it was dope because are we talking about this now? We talking about this now. All right, yeah. So it was dope jason: They timed it. Yeah, we talking about it. We're spoiling everything. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, we're talking we're in it now. 7evenThirty: because they took all them comic book poses that they were like, hey, they recreated these comic book poses in the movie. See that? See that? See that? And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they rolled out all them shots first thing in the movie. And then it's like, now on with the movie. And I thought that was great. They just use those shots jason: That was amazing. 7evenThirty: to sh to tell the montage. He took down this guy, that guy, jason: That was perfect. 7evenThirty: this guy, this guy, and he he started with street level stuff and he did this, took out the scorpion, blah, blah, blah. That shit was tight. PropJosh: I love that they showed tombstone real quick. He wasn't in the movie long, jason: It was beautiful. It was really beautiful. That was amazing. PropJosh: but it was great to 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: see Tombstone real quick showing that he's fighting different supervillains. I like that he's jason: Beautiful, beautiful tune style. PropJosh: he keeps battling Scorpion. Scorpion is almost like his arch enemy because he's been battling Scorpion since he was in high school. So that was cool. They kinda keep bumping to him. Yeah. jason: Yeah, yeah. That's true. Yep. It's great actor who plays them. I love 7evenThirty: Mm. jason: how, I love how they had the him like watching Ned's Instagram or whatever. And it kind of PropJosh: Instagram? Yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah. jason: like, it was kind of the narration of the montage, like, you know, get internal to our second year, you know, because people do that, you know, and they did it in a way that was organic, where you can tell that he's right. 7evenThirty: Right. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, 'cause you could tell years went by. So it's like about maybe at least four years went by at this point. 7evenThirty: They were so tight, man. I jason: I mean, 7evenThirty: was like, man. Four years went by. They right. jason: they graduated. went from freshman year to they graduated. 7evenThirty: Right. PropJosh: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. jason: So they were like, they went and they moved back to New York. So was like, okay, this was a complete montage. 7evenThirty: That was time. jason: Cause I was wondering, I was like, are they going to go to Boston? Cause he, I mean, you know, cause they're at MIT. Yeah. They were in MIT. Yeah. In New York. Yep. PropJosh: So okay, so Ned and MJ were in Boston the entire time while Peter was saving doing his Spider Man stuff. 7evenThirty: Yeah, at C. Mm-mm. And the way he kept up with them was through their Instagram. That was so brilliant. That was so tight. That was so tight, man. PropJosh: Right. That's why he never bumped it to them. Okay. jason: Which makes sense. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I love that. I love that. Go ahead, Josh. PropJosh: I was gonna say my only thing is what was he doing for work? They never jason: That's what I was going to say too. Cause I was like, he didn't, you mentioned it earlier about one thing you like about Spider-Man was that he has everyday problems. This one, he didn't. My theory is that maybe he got inheritance from, from Iron Man. PropJosh: Nobody remembers Peter Parker, though. So he can't get it if you don't remember it. If nobody remembers him. jason: But mean, maybe he got, but he probably, 7evenThirty: But I I also what I think is happening is jason: Dr. Strange would figure that out. Maybe he got some money from that. I don't know. 7evenThirty: No, I th I think he 'cause he was working with the police. I think he getting broke off a little something. From from the PropJosh: Maybe. Probably. 7evenThirty: from the precinct or something. You know what I mean? PropJosh: This movie basically established that whatever he did for work wasn't that important. He was just mostly focused as Spider Man and he wasn't in school at all. jason: It was a hundred percent though. Yeah. He wasn't doing nothing else but Spider-Man. Like he PropJosh: Right. jason: wouldn't, 7evenThirty: Well. jason: he wouldn't even have time for work. That's the thing. Nothing. PropJosh: He wasn't even telling people his real name at all. Nobody knew Peter Parker at all. He would not even introduce himself as Peter Parker. Yeah. Yeah. jason: He never did, yeah. Which was weird, because I'm like, if they didn't know who Peter Parker was, then why would it even matter if he introduced himself as Peter? PropJosh: Maybe because he's being extra secretive, because I like I do like the fact that he would not remove his mask. Because the earlier movies, he took off that mask every five seconds in front of people. jason: Yeah, was complete opposite. Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah. So it's like now he went through a traumatic thing. It's like, no, I'm keeping my mask on and I'm not even going tell you who I am, even when you see me unmasked. jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: So I kinda I 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: like that. because like All right, this reminded me of the video game. Did it kinda remind you of the video game a little bit, Jason? 7evenThirty: Yes, thank you for saying that. Cause I ain't e jason: yeah, that was a couple of scenes. That was definitely a couple of moments. 7evenThirty: I don't even own the game and I was like this like the PropJosh: Ha 7evenThirty: video game, but like just from what I seen, that like he pulled they pull so much from the game. jason: They absolutely made it. was, there was a couple, the specific part that felt the most video game, of course, was the car chasing. Cause you literally have to do that in the video game. Like you have to PropJosh: Yes, yes. 7evenThirty: Mm. jason: stop a moving vehicle. And the way he did that was like, it felt like the video game. And I watched it in D-Box where the seats were moving. And so it was like, I felt like I was in the game, you know, in the movie. So that was really good. PropJosh: And talking to his friend, you know, new character. 7evenThirty: Jason got a strong back, everybody. jason: The 4xD was looks like that was more intense. I was like the seats was flying in the air and jumping upside down. It's like a roller coaster for two and a half, three hours. Yeah, you get punched in the face and kicked in the stomach. Some dude comes up, one of the utterances comes up and just punches you in the stomach. 7evenThirty: I know like they gonna kill somebody on that thing It was violently shaking PropJosh: Yeah, I would not want to be in there. No, thank you. You get to be Spider Man if you watch it. Come out with black eye and 7evenThirty: A movie experience you'll never forget. jason: Yup, that's 4D. That's what that is. PropJosh: But they introduced 7evenThirty: Great. PropJosh: a new character that in the show that Peter was talking to on the phone a lot, the cop, detective Jane DeWolf. She's actually jason: You know this character? PropJosh: Yeah, she's in the comics. I don't know much about her. All I know is that she got killed in the comics. So jason: Mmm. PropJosh: but he's always had a cop friend that he can talk to, because that's what happens in the video games. It wasn't the same jason: Mm-hmm. Right. PropJosh: character, but he did have a character that a person that he could talk to. And jason: Yeah. PropJosh: oddly enough, I did a stop motion Spider-Man series and I did the same thing where Spider-Man would talk to a detective. jason: Mmm. PropJosh: I had it, I I'm had him talk to Misty Knight in my version, where jason: Yeah. PropJosh: she would like talk to him and like say, like, are we got this thing going on, Spider Man? You and then he comes over and and helps and stops the villain and stuff. So but yeah, that's why it reminded me of the video game because he did that a lot in the game, talking to the cop lady and stuff. jason: Mm-hmm. That was good. So bass part for you. PropJosh: Yeah, even some of the web attacks that he did, those web bombs and stuff, Yes, that was definitely a video game thing. jason: That was a video game. Yeah, that was definitely that. So 7evenThirty: That's cool. jason: are we just walking through pros then? So that's kind of what you got on the outline. PropJosh: I I got a lot of pros. There's barely any cons. I'm just naming stuff that I I was putting stuff down that yeah, 'cause jason: Just listing, just listing the stuff. PropJosh: yeah. Cause I mean like I definitely want to talk about Punisher, but I'm kinda saving him for later to talk 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: about him 'cause he he's a big, big character. But jason: Okay. Yeah. PropJosh: I wanted to talk about the other stuff. 7evenThirty: I enjoyed the the soundtrack. The soundtrack was cool. I loved the song that came on when he went to the party, when he went to the house party. jason: Hmm, I don't even, I don't think I noticed the soundtrack. 7evenThirty: That stood out to me. Yeah, that stood PropJosh: Yeah, Marcus be noticing the music. He definitely jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: out to me, that song. I I couldn't I couldn't quite pick out who it was and I didn't want to be an asshole and be Shazamin' the movie, but I must just had to look up the soundtrack and it hit me again. jason: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Mm-hmm. jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: But that was a good scene. Man, I don't know. I like the chemistry between every pairing of characters in this movie, man. jason: Yep. PropJosh: I did too. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: So I, when, when they, when they get back and Peter crashes the, party, that's the scene you talking about. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: And they're walking in, you know, kind of engaging, he's engaging, know, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: Ned and MJ for the first time since. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: As soon as MJ's boyfriend shows up on the screen, everybody was like, jerk, my dude, dude, he'll sit next to me. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: It was next week, just beat him up, Peter. That's what he said. PropJosh: Ha ha ha ha! 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. jason: It's like nobody like him. Yeah, it's like, we just don't even know. He's probably a super nice guy. Yeah, it was horrible. Yeah, was like, we hated it. Everybody hated that. That was good directing. PropJosh: Man, and when he kisses her, Peter just runs out. I felt that pain. I felt that pain. I was like, Of course. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: We were like, man, you know? 7evenThirty: Yeah. Felt PropJosh: Especially if you 7evenThirty: it felt like me the first time I watched PropJosh: know they're in together in real life too. 7evenThirty: Spider Man. PropJosh: Ha ha. jason: Goodness. That's funny. That's hilarious. 7evenThirty: That's exactly how I feel after the first time I watched. jason: man, the first Spidey man ever. But yeah, 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: that's funny. PropJosh: Yeah, it kinda yeah, it hits you. Yeah. For me, it hit me it hit me a lot watching that. I was like, maybe jason: Hmm. PropJosh: 'cause also probably cause you see Tom Holland and Zendaya a lot together in real life, so jason: Yeah. Yeah. PropJosh: much that you can't imagine them with other people. Okay. So you just seeing their characters. It's like, no, why are you kids? No, they it's supposed to be those two together, not this who's this dude. 7evenThirty: So have have that ever happened to y'all? PropJosh: What? jason: seeing another girl, seeing a girl kiss another dude. Like 7evenThirty: Seein' the girl you like. jason: kiss another dude. 7evenThirty: Right. Or the girl or the girl PropJosh: I mean, who has that not happened to? 7evenThirty: or the girl you love, better yet, kissing another dude. I haven't I haven't quite had that happen. I haven't had the girl I love kissing another dude. Cause in this movie, jason: I don't know if I actually seen that. I don't think I've seen it. Yeah, I don't think I've seen that. PropJosh: Not quite a girl I love. 7evenThirty: that's the magnitude, right? Cause he loves her. He saved jason: He love her. Yeah, yes. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: her life several times and he has his whole adolescent memory is jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: involve involving her. And his whole coming PropJosh: Right. 7evenThirty: of age and coming into being Spider Man revolves around her specifically. And jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Right. Right. 7evenThirty: so it's it's we kinda know what it feels like, but we don't really know what it feels like. You know what I mean? jason: Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah, especially when you just watched No Way Home and you s really got to see them have their chemistry and yeah, and they're like they're like a really good couple and everything. 7evenThirty: And they was all yeah, yeah. All three of them was best friends and shit. jason: together. Yeah, the Noah Helm. PropJosh: Yeah, exactly. They're not just a couple, they're best friends. 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: And then it's like they are meant to be together, then it's like they're not, and it's like some dude is here with her instead. And it's like, ooh, that hurts. Right. And you be this dude only has one scene too in the whole movie. jason: Who is this dude? Nobody wants him. One scene, that's it. 7evenThirty: It was it was so many moments. jason: That was more than enough, more than enough. We did not want him, but we knew PropJosh: We did not want to see him again. jason: why he was there, but we also was glad that he only had one scene. Because the other time she mentioned him, it was kind of like, yeah, he's like, you know, he thinks I'm what controlled, what's the word she used? Overbearing or something? Yeah, so. And he was like, yeah, she don't like him either. So good. He ain't nobody to break up. Like, it's not like a big deal when they, you know, you kind of see that there's hope. So, but yeah, this, the, the chemistry between the different characters were really great. Cause even when they first, even in that scene, there is this like natural comradery. Like, of course they've been acting together for over like a decade and they're in a PropJosh: Decade now, yeah. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: literal relationship, but like all three of them, Ned, MJ and Peter still have this like camaraderie that, 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: but they embrace him as a stranger, but he's a friend because he's a neighbor. So it's interesting. And there's like this, there's, you know, a couple of funny little jokes in that they do show in the trailer, but. PropJosh: Well, it's it's what's cool about it is like 'cause Ned 'cause like Peter is in Ned's apartment and he sees all these pictures of Spider Man and Ned, you know, did his was doing his research on Spider Man. But the 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: scene with, you know, Ned and Peter talk and stuff, you you already felt their friendship, even though they don't know each other. jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Like I feel like if me and Marcus lost our memories of each other, we will still be friends if we just met jason: Yeah. PropJosh: like, you know. It's like that natural friendship will come out kind of thing. That's what it kind of felt like. 7evenThirty: So, so it was funny though, because he knew Ned, right? And my jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: favorite scene was like literally one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie was when him and Ned were talking about he was Spider Man and he was they were joking back and forth in the room. I bust out laughing on that part. I'm like, man, that's like Yeah. jason: Listen, as that scene, as that scene played, I was like, this is my favorite scene in the movie. 7evenThirty: It was such a good scene, man. jason: I was just like, this is my favorite scene in the movie. Like, I was like, this is it. This is it. Yes. 7evenThirty: 'Cause because it was like Ned's dream come true, like, my god, PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: like I'm just kicking it with Spider Man, man shit crazy. But then to find out, yeah, it's like a whole deeper jason: Right. Which it kind of goes to... 7evenThirty: layer to it because that literally is his best friend. He just don't know it. Like that's crazy. PropJosh: Well, another deep jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: cut that y'all probably even notice, and I've noticed and I only notice this because I rewatched No Way Home last night. I loved it when Peter found the little Chewbacca Lego. jason: Mm-mm. PropJosh: I love that. I've I I've smiled when I saw that because the last thing that happens in No Way Home after the memories are erased and everything, Peter has the little he has the little Emperor Lego jason: Hmm. PropJosh: at his place. So it's like 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: they They're still connected because they jason: Yeah. PropJosh: have that 'cause that Death Star has been a thing a theme between since the first movie with those two. So it's kind of cool that he they still both have those le Lego jason: since the first one, since Homecoming. Yep, because that was the Lego thing that he dropped. Yeah. 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: pieces each and don't even and he doesn't even remember him. jason: Yep. When he found out when he was Spider-Man, after he found out in Homecoming, and he's just asking him a bunch of questions like, did you PropJosh: Yeah. jason: hang out with him? Did you know him? Yeah, yeah. So that kind of was a shout out. PropJosh: Well, he dropped that dead the Death Star right when he saw Peter as Spider jason: Right. PropJosh: Man in that first movie. jason: Well, I talking about the, was, I was 7evenThirty: yeah, that's right. jason: referring to the way that Ned was talking to him when in the gym, when he was like geeking out over the fact, like they were just, Peter and they were talking and he was asking a bunch of questions. And that's, that PropJosh: Right, right, of course. jason: was like, they kind of gave me a reminder of that scene in the, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: when they were hanging out in the apartment. Cause he's just like asking them, you know, just random questions. And MJ is like, that's what you want to ask Spider-Man? 7evenThirty: Hmm. jason: So. of, yeah, that was just, that just was a, it definitely showed the friendship 7evenThirty: Mm. jason: and the need for Spider-Man to have friends. That's something I think was, you know, was good. That's why I love this series. I think all of the, all of the series, it just shows that friendship, like he's like, okay, Nes, the guy in the chair. Like there's just a dynamic that we see about friendship and Spider-Man. PropJosh: Yeah, 'cause and we said this before with cause you know the other one that had friends was Toby McGuire's Spider-Man. He had, you know, he had MJ 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: and Harry, and we always talk about how they were terrible friends. That is a terrible toxic friendship three three yeah, triangle. Yeah. jason: No, they weren't good friends at all. They were not good friends. None of them were good friends. I was like, what do mean they were friends? They weren't friends. 7evenThirty: That was a toxic relationship. It was a toxic triangle. PropJosh: Well th they were though. They were qu quote quote friends or whatever. But it's like Peter, jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Ned and MJ are way better. Triangle, three friends, jason: yeah. Yep. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: way better trio. jason: And that's obvious that they stayed frank. Like I liked that MJ and Ned were still like tight because they had that connection. 7evenThirty: Yes. Mm-hmm. Right. Right. They they became PropJosh: yeah, yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: basically best friends while they was in school. You know what I'm saying? Like I thought that was hella cool. PropJosh: Right, right. jason: Mm, okay. 7evenThirty: But they yeah, there were so many moments where I was like, Man, I'm so glad I watched No Way Home just last night. You know, to see the contrast of like jason: Hehehehe. Mmm. PropJosh: Yeah, same, same. 7evenThirty: their friendship. Cause like We, the audience, know all this, that they were best friends. And then on this movie, jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: it's like that, like you said, that pull, they still that chemistry that still make you gravitate to somebody that's you're the same like, you know, like the same type jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: of person, you know, like like yo you're a like kind of person, you know what mean? So I think that's that was a cool concept 'cause I believe in that. jason: that I think that's part of the, I think that's part of the moral of the movie. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: you know, cause I think that we're going to jump, not going in chronological order, but like the specific part where he's talking to, I'm not going to spoil a lot. We'll mention it, but like the moment where he's in acting, he there's interacting with Aunt May and he says like, I'm not doing this alone. You know, like I'm not going to do this alone. And so there's something about that where we see Spider-Man. doing it alone, being the basically lonely vigilante, throwing 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: his 100 % PropJosh: Yeah. jason: self into work, not wanting to, because he don't want anybody to be hurt. And so he's like, can't do, you know, and so I think there's a dynamic that grows in that. PropJosh: Well, and there's there's definitely clues dropped as well from like well, 'cause yeah, when he's talking on the phone with Detective DeWolf, she's like telling him like you should go and hang out with people and stuff. And he's like, No, jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: I'm all right, I'm I'm I'm good, I'm gonna do my job. jason: Yep. PropJosh: And then also when we get a cameo from Yelena, who we did not know was in the movie at all, probably 'cause she's like naked every time she's in the movie. So they didn't advertise that she that you know, that she was in the movie. jason: They definitely didn't advertise. Yeah. She's a hundred percent. Every time you see her, is in, she is in the, in the spa or whatever. PropJosh: I love Marcus' right now. Marcus watch Oppenheimer. That's all I gotta say. 7evenThirty: No to sit off. PropJosh: Well yeah, Yelena pointed out that he should be yeah. 7evenThirty: That was a cool scene though jason: with people. 7evenThirty: because he had his mask. PropJosh: Yeah, that was another video game thing, like Andy kinda whispered that to me 'cause they're like, that's a that was an option. There's a you know, you got different clothes options for Spider Man. I think one of is in his in his underwear with just the mask jason: Hmm. PropJosh: on. And they 7evenThirty: That's funny. PropJosh: literally did that. jason: Yeah. Yeah, they did. They did some cruel things. His costume, we didn't talk about his costume, but his costume was amazing. So yeah, that was dope. PropJosh: yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that he's doing his own tech. He's like he 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: he learned from Stark and it's like now he's doing his own thing. So he still have that jason: It just shows more how 7evenThirty: It shows how smart jason: genius he is. 7evenThirty: he yeah, yeah. Cause he PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: when he was talking science with Dr. Banner, and jason: Dude. 7evenThirty: Dr. Banner's like, Man, this is a bright kid. All every scientist he jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: comes across just really admires him. Like, man, like Dr. Octavius, jason: He's genius. 7evenThirty: Osborne, jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: Banner, and and Stark. they all look to him like, man, this dude's PropJosh: Yeah, they they really need to put 7evenThirty: smart as hell. PropJosh: they really need to put Peter and Reed Richards in the same scene at some point. Some some point. 7evenThirty: They need to put Peter Reed jason: you 7evenThirty: Richards and Re Reed Williams in in in a scene together. Mm-hmm. jason: yeah, she brilliant too. Yeah, that's, PropJosh: Yeah. jason: I think that's one of the, one of the underrated aspects of Spider-Man is how brilliant he is. I think that 7evenThirty: Right. jason: like, because he's, you know, a kid vigilante, I mean, most people would know that he's good, but I don't think that they realize how brilliant he really is. You know, they do. 7evenThirty: I think they highlight that more in this movie though. cause he's PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: more hands on, like you said, with his own tech. And then in No Way Home, he did outsmart the mirror realm. Mm-hmm. jason: Yeah, I was going to say No Way Home kind of showed it a little bit more for this character. Cause I think that the other characters, have each day have their own little version of Spider-Man that they put together. And I feel like PropJosh: Yeah. jason: this brand new day put a lot of those pieces together and made it all one. Cause you know, one thing also about this Peter Parker of this Spider-Man that I think this Tom Holland's version He did way more quips than he's ever done. PropJosh: Yeah, we have to point out the fact that he has officially played Spider Man the longest. The most. He has had the most movies, the longest, all that stuff. To the point it's like, this boy is Spider Man. Like, yeah. Yeah. jason: Mm-hmm. The most, the longest, more movies than anybody else. Straight up. Yeah, he grew up as it, but he had a lot 7evenThirty: Some Holly. jason: more, a lot more side commentary, a lot more, you know, like he felt like he was just a hundred percent Spider-Man, just like this is him all day. So. PropJosh: This is what we needed because the other movies, it was always a big spectacle that he has to fight, like this big thing. And plus he had Tony Stark behind him, or he had Doctor Strange behind him. Yeah. 7evenThirty: Are they tech? Yeah. jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: And all this tech and all this extra stuff behind him, where this one, it's like he's just on the streets and he's doing it by himself. And I 7evenThirty: Okay. jason: Yeah. PropJosh: like that's what I loved about it. I said, This is Spider-Man. This is the Spider-Man we've been waiting on. 7evenThirty: So this is Spider Man. This this is Spider. Like, because that time passed by, we now we ain't no teenagers no more. We ain't no college age. We jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: 22, 23 now. You jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: know what I'm saying? We out here. I've been doing this shit on my own every day in, day out, 24-7, sun up, sundown. PropJosh: Right. 7evenThirty: I'm badassed now. And this jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: is. He's become It's almost like he's become Spider Man that on the cartoon that from the nineties. He's a he's a cartoon PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. He's the one from the nineties pretty much. 7evenThirty: from he he's the Spider Man from the video game, from the PS five video jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: game, but he's also Spider Man straight out of the comic books now. And he's PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: like all of together. Like they they jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: this yeah, like this is Spider Man the PropJosh: This is the one. 7evenThirty: way the way jason: This was the ultimate Spider-Man. 7evenThirty: Downey was Iron Man. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Right. The way Downey was Iron Man, the way Hugh Jackman is Wolverine, you know what mean? Like jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: that's so can I that you kind of touched on one of my things. Is this your favorite costume? Because this is my favorite costume. This is my favorite, this is my favorite all time Spider Man costume. jason: Yes. Yeah, I, a hundred percent. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah, I think it is for me too. jason: It's feels like the best. 7evenThirty: Up up until now it was I think it was the what's his name? Simon and Garfunkel. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Andrew Garfield, he had a dope ass costume because he looked like the Todd McFarlane one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this one was crazy. Yeah. jason: I liked Andrew Garfield. Yeah. I liked Andrew Garfield's costume the best until this one. Yeah. He did. Yeah. So, I mean, this was definitely the best. PropJosh: Simon a Garflow. yeah, yeah. jason: And you know, he does, I love, mean, you talking about Tom Holland and body and Spider-Man, it's like the fact that he does all his own, a lot of his own stunts is 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: amazing. Like it's so cool to hear when he's talking about. the different poses, because they talk about things like I was, you know, like, yeah, Tom Holland did this at the third take. Like it was like he did like that's him jumping and flipping and doing all that stuff, which is so cool to see like even though he's in the mask. I remember hearing about that. Yeah, that's true. PropJosh: Mhm. Yeah, 'cause he did hurt himself while making this movie. I remember that. Yeah. jason: which is like, man, dude, you really trying to Tom Cruise this thing. Yeah, yeah, PropJosh: I know. He's thirty. He's thirty now. He's not a kid anymore. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: yeah. So, and he ripped. I was like, okay, Tom, hollin'. Yeah, I was like, all right. 7evenThirty: Yeah, he's ripped. PropJosh: Yeah, he did get bigger. I was like, yeah, he ain't no kid. He got he got yeah, he got ripped. He's really been working out, boy. Spider-Man's jason: Yeah. PropJosh: bulky now. That's why it's the nineties one, because he's a little he's not skinny anymore. jason: Yep. yeah, yeah. Which makes sense. I mean, Spider-Man doing all that 7evenThirty: Right, right, right. He's shaped like the nineties one. jason: jumping and flipping and picking up cars, like he ain't gonna be skinny. 7evenThirty: Mountain climbing and shit. PropJosh: I mean it makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense because you have two types of body you jason: Yeah, he climbing walls. Yeah, of course it makes sense to be strong. PropJosh: got two types of body types for Spider Man. You got the skinny one and then you got the bulkier one and this was the bulkier one. Which makes sense because he was younger in 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So he jason: Yeah. PropJosh: those of the movies. 7evenThirty: when I say video game, to me, he reminded me also of the gamer verse version of Spider-Man, like the the Marvel versus Capcom. Cause he he was he was like he was buffed too. You know what I mean? And he was like down here with the poses, and yeah, that one jason: yeah. Yeah. They'll pose it. Yep. That pose. 7evenThirty: right there. He looked like that. He looked like that. You know what I'm saying? I expected. jason: That action figure is amazing. I just had to pull that out. That's probably one of my favorite action figures. Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah you did. Of course I had to. You brought it up, so why not? 7evenThirty: When he was fighting the hand, I expected him to do that maximum spider move. jason: Yep. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Maximum Spider. 7evenThirty: Maximum Spider. jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: That's the dopest Spider-Man figure ever, right there in your hand. That shit is so dope. Show it one more time. jason: Man, it is. I agree 100%. That figure, I saw that. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. This one. Yeah, the Spider Verse, the gamerverse. Yeah. 7evenThirty: Cause I saw it online. Yeah, that shit is cold. They got the big eyes and everything. Yeah, the game reverse. Yep. jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I saw it on, I think I saw it on Instagram. I sent it to Josh. I was like, you have this one right? He's like, and then he just took a picture of it with. Because I don't, I already know, I you know, I assumed that you had it. I knew better. PropJosh: Like you already know, I'm I'm one of the biggest Spider-Man fans. Of course I have this figure already. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: I knew better than me. Like, Josh, look at the extra figure that I discovered. PropJosh: You should probably get it. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. There were several moments in this movie where like I was like, I love Spider Man. I should get a spider tattoo. PropJosh: Mm. jason: Mm-hmm. Yup. PropJosh: So I wanna talk about one of his friendships that we just talked of that that I was saving. I jason: the rest of the plot. okay. The dynamics. All right. All right. PropJosh: wanna talk about Punisher. jason: Okay. Have you seen the Punisher TV show? PropJosh: I did not watch the Punisher TV show. I jason: Okay. PropJosh: did watch the Punisher. they did a one episode thing that came out recently. Yeah, yeah. I watched that. 7evenThirty: The one last kill thing? I didn't watch that one. PropJosh: I did watch that. That was okay. And jason: Okay. PropJosh: I saw him on Daredevil. He wasn't on Daredevil this past season, but he was on it the season before. So 7evenThirty: So I didn't jason: So has. 7evenThirty: watch Daredevil or One Last Kill, but I watched like I think like the first season of the Punisher show. jason: think it's only one season, right? PropJosh: okay. jason: Or is it two? PropJosh: It's only one season, I think. really I I think it's just one season that was on Netflix for a while. 7evenThirty: I thought it was two seasons. it's only one? Yeah, well I seen that. Yeah. jason: Yeah. So this is the first time we've actually seen Tom Holland and John Berthinaugh as Punisher together. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: I thought you were gonna say this the first time we've seen jason: No. PropJosh: Tom Holland and John Berth on a movie together. I'm like, jason: They were hanging out last week in Odyssey. watched them hanging out in Odyssey. were literally having a couple scenes together. So, PropJosh: Ha ha ha. jason: Tom Holland and Zendaya didn't have no scenes together really in Odyssey, PropJosh: Yeah, and obviously, no they didn't. jason: but Jon Bertholdt had a couple. I meant like as Punisher because as you talk about the PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, it is. jason: dynamic of them, I love it because it's like they had a whole series that we didn't see. PropJosh: Right, it did. 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: I love their banter, man. I love it. Cause like Punisher shows up 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: It's like, was great. PropJosh: because like this cause like this tank is going through the street and then Punisher shows up and he's just shooting and stuff is happening. Spider-Man's stopping him. Like, hey, Frank, get out of the way. Like, Frank, let me handle jason: Yep. PropJosh: this. Like, get out of the way, man. Like they're arguing with each other and stuff. It's like, jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: and then they just getting all extra with each other. Like they've have clashed several times. Like, that's jason: several times. PropJosh: what you can tell from that. 7evenThirty: But it's funny 'cause we'll never get a show of it. jason: Nope, we don't need it. We don't need it. But the PropJosh: I wish we would, 'cause it was great just seeing them. jason: dynamic was great, especially was like, they talked about Staten Island. It's like, I'm talking about Staten Island. 7evenThirty: They treated it like that, like the that was their backstory. PropJosh: I love that part. When they were arguing about that, I saved you. You owe me. You owe me. I wasn't 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: I didn't owe you. What you talking Yeah, stand down. What are you talking about? I didn't just save me. Yeah, I did save you. I loved it. It was. jason: Yeah, that was great. That was definitely. 7evenThirty: And that was so so that was so New York the way they were arguing. jason: Yo, yo, goodness, 100%. And then MJ was 7evenThirty: But I I do jason: like, you need to save him like he did with you 7evenThirty: like that too. Spider Man is jason: and Staten Island. So go ahead, Mark, what you say? 7evenThirty: Sp Spider Man is a lot more New York in this movie to me. Just the way PropJosh: He is, he is, he said. jason: Absolutely. 100%. 7evenThirty: he talks to the cop, just see you can hear his New York accent coming out more on this like, jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: you know. PropJosh: He was he was channeling jason: Why, he feels New York. PropJosh: he was channeling his Andrew Garfield 'cause Andrew Garfield was jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: the most New York Spider Man out of the three before this. 7evenThirty: Now jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: the real actual New York City embraces Spider Man so much and I love it. Like they they interwe jason: Yeah, that's so true. 7evenThirty: like I remember walking by a newsstand and it was like Spider Man on the newspaper, like somebody had jason: Bye. 7evenThirty: like they painted him on this stack of newspaper. It was I I took a picture of it, it was crazy though. It was jason: Hmm. Hmm. 7evenThirty: like PropJosh: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: New York Love Spider Man or something like that. It was it was like New York has embraced that character. as a neighborhood folk hero, you know? jason: Yeah. I mean, and they definitely PropJosh: Yeah, makes sense. jason: mentioned that in this movie, like he gets the key to the city. You know, they talk about how he just saves all boroughs, like he cares about the whole, you know, all of Brooklyn, New York, you know, Manhattan, you all the, all the boroughs. And I think that's really cool. And so having that dynamic between Punisher just emphasized that New Yorkness. But it was a, it was a, it was definitely like a banter in a way that was like. They weren't enemies, but they were, know, that's that like the, was that dynamic. Like it didn't feel like they were enemies. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause in the trailer it felt like they were enemies, but then you actually watch it and I was like, no, these guys they'll help each other out. They just kind of get in each other's way sometimes. That's what I got from it. jason: Yeah. Yeah, like it's 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: obviously that Punisher is lethal. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. jason: Like he shoots to kill and Hardman's like, no, don't do that. You know? PropJosh: Yeah, which is which is funny because this is the second superhero that gets in Punisher's way 'cause he's like this with Daredevil. Cause every time Daredevil 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: Hmm. PropJosh: and Punisher are fighting people, Daredevil's always stopping Punisher from killing people. And he and and jason: Killing people, yeah. PropJosh: Punisher always gets angry at him because he calls Daredevil Red. He'll be like, Get out of my way, Red. Like, no, you no killing. Get out my way, Red. And so they do that a lot, but this one jason: Yeah 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: felt a little bit more friendlier with Spider Man, probably 'cause Spider Man's younger. jason: Yeah, yeah, and he saved them in Staten Island. He saved them in Staten 7evenThirty: Right. 'Cause he still refers to Spider Man as a kid, right. jason: Island, so you know. PropJosh: Yeah, and Punisher's a big softy. Even though he is ruthless, he's a ruthless killer, he's also a little bit of a softie. jason: You can definitely see that when he has to, he's taken in MJ at that moment. There's like a, there is that rugged environment, that tension, but the willingness that he's like, hey, like, okay, yeah, he kind of takes her in, in the way that I think shows his heart. PropJosh: Right. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: So, let's talk about other stuff, right? So we got other things in the movie. The whole point of the movie, I think, the main plot was not spoiled PropJosh: Well, the main plot yeah, we haven't talked about the plot of the movie. jason: to me. I didn't get it. I did not get that spoiled. You said you did. You said you guessed it. 7evenThirty: I wasn't spoiled whatsoever. I was in there like Yeah. jason: I was like, my goodness. So I thought the villain was like a demon. Cause I was like, okay, it's gotta be, you know, like jumping from bodies. 7evenThirty: I was not spoiled whatsoever, and I was so glad. jason: And so I'm like, this reminds me of, what's the movie? Absolutely. 100%. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. PropJosh: So y'all were surprised. th that that 7evenThirty: I was so I was 100% surprised and not because that's the good thing about being a a reclusive anti social media person is I ain't get spoiled on none of that shit. jason: but you guessed it because of the powers that was happening. 7evenThirty: Who? Who guessed? PropJosh: Well see for me talk about me. I I jason: Josh, did you get spoiled by it or did you guess it? PropJosh: I wa I more like I guessed. it wasn't a social media thing that got me. It was like putting clues together. Cause like, you know, I knew Sadie Sink was cast in it. She's a redhead. So you didn't even know that Sadie Sink was in this. Really? okay. Well, I knew Sadie Sink was cast and jason: I didn't. I did not know. I did not know that. No, at all. Until I saw her on the screen. Yeah, I did not know. And when they showed her on the screen, they gave her a name immediately. So that's when I was 7evenThirty: I had I had no idea she was in that movie. Nope. I had no idea. Yep. I had no idea. jason: like, 7evenThirty: But even when they said when they said that, it was just like, that's a familiar name. And it just went. I was like Well, cause jason: You didn't get that, you didn't get that, my goodness. You didn't get it when they the name. 7evenThirty: I thought I thought I was like, man, there's a mutant name Gene. Nah. My brain my brain literally was like, nah. I'm like, no, it's not her. jason: They literally said Jean Grey, you know? my goodness. So they said the whole, her whole middle name and everything. They said her whole full name and they showed it. 7evenThirty: Did they say her last name? They didn't say her PropJosh: Yes, yes, say her whole name. Yeah. 7evenThirty: I must a I must have wasn't paying attention to the to the last name. I just remember PropJosh: They yeah, they showed it. They definitely jason: They even showed it written out. 7evenThirty: s I just remember he said at one point said her name out loud. 'Cause jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: at one point I spilled popcorn and had to look down. PropJosh: maybe that's when they showed her name on screen. jason: Yeah, that's probably the best 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: spot in most of that moment. 7evenThirty: And I still messed up my shirt with popcorn butter and I was pissed. jason: popcorn. PropJosh: So for me I saw the trailer and I saw the people leaping to different bodies, which was a very cool effect. Really cool, how people were just moving like that and it was yeah, the way she did that. jason: Mm-hmm. was like, what was that? 7evenThirty: Yeah, I love the choreography of that. jason: That was like, wasn't that Denzel Washington movie? yeah, PropJosh: Yeah, it was a dense fallen, I think. That's what it's called. jason: that's what it reminded me of. PropJosh: Yeah, it reminded me of that too. So when I I mean I you know, I think I watched people breaking down trailers too and stuff. Maybe I did that. So I jason: I didn't watch any of that. PropJosh: so somebody had some, you know, theories that it was Jean Grey because like, you Sad Sadie Sink was cast and they didn't say who she was, and it was rumored that she could be some people said black cat. It's like, no, she ain't gonna be black cat. She got red hair, she's known for her red hair. Hey, who's a Marvel character that has red 7evenThirty: I had no idea it was Sadie sink. PropJosh: hair? Jean Gray. jason: Jean Grey is the Marvel character with red hair. So when you saw it, you just made that guess in your mind. You were thinking Jean Grey is going to be, this is Jean Grey. PropJosh: Yep, this is Jean Curry. Yeah. jason: So did that feel like that spoiled it for you? Because I love not knowing that. PropJosh: No. It I didn't feel spoiled or disappointed or nothing like that. So that was 7evenThirty: Yeah, I wasn't yeah. Yeah. PropJosh: a big old like What for you? Yeah. jason: It was huge because I was because it was it was halfway through the movie. Like it was like we were 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: we didn't even see this character because I was thinking when they were like, we got to go. My thought was I've got to get this behind this door. was like, they got to she got to or whoever is looking for their body. 7evenThirty: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Kim sorry to interrupt, but when did they show her name? jason: It was about halfway through the movie. PropJosh: So when I 7evenThirty: Was it was it before or after they were trying to jason: It was the moment they showed her face. PropJosh: Well, when they showed her face, Peter was s researching her face. He was trying to figure out who she was and then he figured 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: it out and said 'cause that's when MJ jason: It was pretty quick. PropJosh: read it with him or something like that. It's like her name is Jean, I forgot her middle name, Jean something something gray. And that's when they s they showed her name. jason: Yeah, he's researching and thinking Punisher's hideout. 7evenThirty: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. jason: That's when I research and Punisher's hideout. So this is before he confronts the Hulk or like connects with the Hulk, like before that scene. PropJosh: We gotta talk about the Hulk, by the way, obviously. 7evenThirty: Okay. jason: So, but I'm like, I was surprised, I was completely surprised and I was pleasantly surprised because I was like, this was not where I was thinking was going to go. And I was thinking, I didn't know who the villain was going to be. 7evenThirty: Right. jason: But I was like, maybe they're trying to, when they... I think mentioned that I gotta get behind that door in damage control. I was thinking that what's behind that door was the person's body. And they were jumping through between a bunch of bodies because they couldn't get their real body. And that's what I was thinking. So that was my theory that was completely wrong. And I was glad. Cause I was like, this was nice. I liked it. It was Jean PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: Grey. That was a really interesting dynamic they did. and as soon as we found out it was Jean Grey, I was already suspicious of damage control. mean, Truman, Truman, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah, nobody likes damage control anyway. jason: is amazing actor. PropJosh: Right. jason: and so, you know, he's likable. Yup. Yup. He's, but he, he plays, he basically exactly a hundred percent like that's typecasted. 7evenThirty: Mr Mr. Milchick. Yeah, he's basically the same kind of character on this movie. That's the only thing I was like, he's kind of Mr. Milchick in this movie. PropJosh: Yeah. Now we got two people. Now we got two people from Severance in the the Spider Man universe. Spider Man do a flip jason: Yeah, so yeah, he definitely played. 7evenThirty: Right. Which was funny. I reali I did not realize that there was ADR of him saying do a flip in no way home. PropJosh: Yeah, homecoming. 7evenThirty: The no, no way, and no way home when when they're when he's the most famous person in the world and they're going in, he's going into the school to go like test for college or whatever. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: And it's everybody's like, hey, Spider-Man, Spider-Man. Somebody say, Hey, do a flip. Like it's just the audio of it. It's just like he's nowhere PropJosh: okay, yeah. 7evenThirty: on screen. But it's that audio is hilarious. PropJosh: okay, so it jason: Wow. PropJosh: was 7evenThirty: 'Cause I just called it and headphones I happened to be wearing headphones and I was like, shit, that's jason: you 7evenThirty: the audio from the jason: That's crazy. PropJosh: So Mr. Milchek was in the movie playing Mr. Milchek, basically. jason: Yeah, yeah, he did it. And 7evenThirty: Yep. Pretty much. jason: yeah, so I was, I mean, I kind of was thinking that they weren't bad. Like, I was like, okay, maybe they reformed everybody. Like, wasn't, I wasn't super, but I was still kind of a little suspicious. So was like, you know, I was following the movie up until the confrontation when you knew who Jean Grey was. And I was like, there's something else going on here, you know? So that was when I was thinking. PropJosh: Right, 'cause Jean Grey is not usually shown as a villain unless she's like a phoenix. jason: Right. Right. And she wasn't the Phoenix, but it's like, but the way that she did this stuff, she was very, very villainry. Like it was like, it was scary. Like the worst part was PropJosh: She was, yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: 'Cause some people were getting shot. Some people got shot. jason: folks got shot, but I hate it and hated love. It was a great scene, but I called it out immediately. Like when she jumped into MJ, when she jumped into MJ, I said, when PropJosh: when yeah, somebody yelled in the audience in my audience, they was like, no. jason: she felt like when she jumped into MJ after he like, after he saved MJ, And then he's PropJosh: Yeah. jason: thinking he's far away and then she's talking to him and then they kiss. said, no, no, this is, the, it's the monster. Like that's not, it's way too quick. I was like, yeah. Yeah. I was like, that's way too quick. I was like, no, 7evenThirty: Cause it was too convenient. Cause she was like, Hey, maybe I can remember. Just kiss me and I can remember. And it was like, Come on. PropJosh: Yeah. Right, right, yeah. jason: no, no, no, no. And that was like, yep. No, that wasn't it. As soon as you said his name, I knew it was wrong. was like, nah. PropJosh: And she was all like, Peter? And I was like and it's just I was like, that was that was heartbreaking. Like I felt like it was too early. I was like, This is too early in the movie. Like, mm, something's jason: It was too early, too quick. Yep. 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah, it was way too early for her to be figuring that shit out. Like, yeah, what the fuck is this a Disney movie? wait. jason: Yes, it is. And then when she 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: fell off the cliff, I was like, please don't kill her off. I know they weren't going to do that. They did it already. But it still gave me tension. It 7evenThirty: No, they weren't gonna do that 'cause they already did that in the Simon and Garfunkel Spider Man. PropJosh: I didn't think they was gonna do that. Yeah, they ain't gonna do that. Simon Garfunkel, the Andrew Garfield one. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: still gave me a lot of anxiety when she was falling. PropJosh: A little bit, yeah. But then they're they're not gonna pull an Andrew Garfield. 7evenThirty: Yeah, I knew she was safe. Yeah, I knew they weren't going. jason: not in the middle of the movie either too, that would have been bad. PropJosh: Yeah, been real bad. let's talk about the Hulk. Yes. I'm glad jason: We can talk about them. The end. All right. Move on. Next person, right now. 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha ha. PropJosh: so I'm glad they show Professor Hulk first. jason: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we've seen him for a little while. Right. PropJosh: So it like, you know, 'cause that's what we were used to. And he was being controlled that he wasn't that big, but he was still dangerous. jason: Yeah. PropJosh: And then I like the fact that Raging Hulk did not need Gene Gray to come out. He came out on jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: his own. 'Cause the previews 7evenThirty: Right. PropJosh: made it look like that the pert the villain was g bringing out the Hulk out of Banner, but it was like, no, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: he just lost control and Raging Hulk is finally back. Cause I love that he had that close up. I wanted to applaud 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: myself. I was only one in the theater one to do that. When he was like, no, no banner. Hulk. I was like, 7evenThirty: Mm-mm. PropJosh: I'm going to applaud because it's like, it's been years since we seen the Hulk. jason: When was the last time we'd seen him right there? Because he was, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: he was, was he smart, Professor Hoke, when he, when he snapped? PropJosh: No, no, he was he was Bruce Banner. He was regul yeah, 7evenThirty: No. Yeah. PropJosh: he was Mark Ruffalo, regular Bruce Banner when he snapped. jason: when he did the snap. Like when he did 7evenThirty: So yeah, 'cause so I was jason: the... 7evenThirty: When he did the jason: Go ahead. 7evenThirty: snap and the Thano snap? jason: Right, didn't he have a glove and snap? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. PropJosh: yeah, yeah. He was he was Professor Hulk when he did the Thanos snap. Okay. 7evenThirty: Yeah, that was Professor Hall. PropJosh: okay. I thought you were talking about when he snapped in his mind, like in this movie. Yeah, yeah. He was yeah, he jason: No, I meant when he did the glove snap. PropJosh: was yeah, he was 7evenThirty: Yeah, I thought you was meant snapped in his mind too. jason: No, he was Professor Hulk when he did the glove snap. So we hadn't PropJosh: Yeah. Yes. jason: seen Ragenhulk before then. PropJosh: Right. We saw him go against Thano, so that's the last time we saw him. Which we technically saw him in the end game when they went back in time. Yeah. But jason: because it was like a flashback. Yeah. Okay. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: yeah, as canon. 7evenThirty: Have we seen has Spider Man and any version of the Hulk been on screen together before? Cause jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: I don't remember them on screen in the ink PropJosh: Infinity War 7evenThirty: game and when? PropJosh: Yeah, they they they were in Infinity War 'cause when Banner couldn't t transform to the Hulk, then Spider Man showed up and he was helping fight he was helping Iron Man fight those yeah. jason: But then he turned into Hulk. Hulk. 7evenThirty: No, I'm talking about but he never turned into the hook in that scene though. I'm talking about Green PropJosh: No, he didn't. 7evenThirty: Hook and Spider Man on jason: Spider-Man 7evenThirty: the screen together. Have we ever seen that? PropJosh: Sorta. We saw Professor Hulk in the endgame when everybody was on the field. They showed Spider Man and Professor Hulk out in the field together. Probably jason: I see. PropJosh: not right next to each other, but they were like when they showed all the heroes at once. Yes. So that and then so we never exactly. So this is the first time we actually got one on 7evenThirty: They were in the same shot. And that don't that don't really count. Yeah. jason: I get it. All right. PropJosh: one with Spider-Man and the Hulk. Live action. I did jason: I love that though, I love that. 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: too. I love I my only con for that scene, it didn't last long enough. I felt like it was too short. It was too short. But I love the fact that jason: of course it would, yeah. So the fight scene. 7evenThirty: Right. Yeah. PropJosh: like I love that Spider-Man was on his shoulder. He couldn't get to him. And he was webbing him up a lot. jason: That was beautiful. That reminded me of, I was, that was gonna say 7evenThirty: Yeah. Yeah, that felt like I was playing with toys. That's what that felt like. jason: that. 7evenThirty: I f it felt like I was going pew PropJosh: Ha ha ha! 7evenThirty: pew Like that shit was dope as hell. PropJosh: Yes. Probably my favorite fight scene. I would say that's probably my favorite fight scene. 7evenThirty: Yeah, I reverted to a ten jason: I mean, it was pretty dope. 7evenThirty: year old on that fight. jason: It was pretty dope on that. pretty dope on that. His, him trying to put the inhibitor on him. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: but not working. it's like, yeah, Hulk is like indestructible. And I think the only way, PropJosh: Right. jason: the only way that he was able to slow him down was trying to talk through him, which was like, that was it. He couldn't PropJosh: Right, right. jason: fight him. Like he really couldn't. Cause he had the whole entire, skyscraper on his back, you know? But he's 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: That was so yeah, that was a trip. It was all dragging him down. He's that strong. I'm like jason: like, no, you can't stop the Hulk. You really can't. He is unstoppable. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. jason: But I loved, and we talked about it earlier, but I just love the dynamic of when Peter Parker is trying to learn how to inhibit Cause we see that like inhibitor that Bruce Banner has on earlier in the movie. that's, that's kind of the, another part plot point in 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: the movie is that throughout the movie, Peter Parker, Spider-Man is evolving. and so PropJosh: Yeah. jason: he's like trying to control the arachnid version of himself. So that's the, which is, that's a brilliant writing, for the movie 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: because it's like, he ends up inventing this inhibitor that actually is used. It helps him, but. It also hurts him, but it also is used against the other characters, which is actually really interesting. So yeah, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: I like that piece. PropJosh: Yeah, that's how they catch Gene. That's how you stop Jean. jason: Which I felt relieved. It was kind of like there was a sense of relief when he did that, when he stopped her. But it's also a sense of like, what is going to happen worse? PropJosh: I felt like 'cause Jean Gene was flipping back and forth a lot. Cause she was a villain and then sh 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. As Jean does. jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: right, right. Cause she was jason: Yeah, you ain't be doing that. PropJosh: a villain. She was a straight villain of the movie and then she would flip over and be like his ally. And then she's a villain 7evenThirty: Well, yeah. PropJosh: again. It was weird. 7evenThirty: So I was asking myself throughout the movie, I don't think villain is the word for her. I think she's the antagonist of the movie. You know what I'm saying? Right. Kinda like Killmonger. Like, PropJosh: Right, yeah. jason: Mmm. Yeah. Because she has her own motivation, which is clear and makes sense. 7evenThirty: you know what I mean? Like PropJosh: Killmonger's a villain though. jason: Yeah, because Jean Grey's motivation isn't to like rule, isn't to, you know, become, you know, queen of whatever it is to murder. She wants to kill people, but she really just wants to find her sister. She's like, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Right. jason: it's kind of like, I mean, it's the same, it's the same character as Kimmy on... 7evenThirty: I knew you were gonna say that. You so stupid. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: I knew you were gonna say that. Where's my sister? That's basic that's basically Gene Gray in this movie. Yeah. PropJosh: Where's my sister? Where's my sister? jason: I mean, Grey was like that. She was coming in there PropJosh: Ha jason: knocking down PropJosh: ha ha. jason: doors, you know, with the guns and saying, where's my sister? You know what saying? She's beating everybody up. Where's my sister? So Beauty in Black, shout out, 7evenThirty: That's funny. jason: you know. So yeah, same thing. Which man, yup. So yeah. Of course, that was obvious. That was 100%. 7evenThirty: Where's my sister? PropJosh: yeah, I knew Mr. Milchake lied though. I knew he lied immediately. jason: As soon as he said what he said, was like, that's 100 % a lie. It was like, yeah, he was like, yeah. 7evenThirty: yeah. I was like, I just don't trust this guy. Well, parti I was partially thinking maybe I'm just thinking about Mr. Milchick, you know what I'm saying? But it jason: Paranoid? Mm-hmm. Just suspicious of him. PropJosh: Ha ha. 7evenThirty: ended up being one and the same. jason: He's all like, Sarah, I was thinking about Sarah and then she must've just read, it's a hundred percent a lie. As soon as she said what, quit. But PropJosh: got into my mind for a second and it was yeah, I was like, liar. You lying. Right. You could t he lied so quick like that too. Yeah. 7evenThirty: Mm. jason: it gave us a, it gave us a moment to breathe for a few minutes, which allowed that, you know, friendship dynamic to happen and all that stuff. So it was kind of like, okay, now we can breathe. But then it's like, wait a minute. That was just beautiful writing too. Cause it was like the plot points of being not knowing. who you are when you're possessed by Jean Grey. And man, her power, she's a kid, but her power is strong. So, and I it 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: was a good casting. I thought that Sadie did a great job as you know, teen Jean Grey. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Teen Jean. PropJosh: Even though she's like in her mid twenties now, ain't she? 7evenThirty: Wait wait, is she supposed PropJosh: Ha ha. 7evenThirty: to be younger than Peter? PropJosh: I think so 'cause he was calling her a kid. I think she is definitely supposed to be younger. 7evenThirty: Mm. jason: I she looked like she was 15. mean, you know. PropJosh: Sadie's Saint looks young anyway. jason: So yeah. PropJosh: She was the only Stranger Things kid that didn't age while the rest of them looked all extra old and she looked the same. So let's jason: Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yep. PropJosh: talk about MJ, like when MJ found out that about Peter and everything. jason: She found the letter? Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah, which was a little bit of a heartbreaking 7evenThirty: I like that scene. PropJosh: scene as well, because he tells her that he loves her and she's like, I don't even I don't even know you. It's like, well, what do you expect to hear? jason: I don't love you and I don't know you. I was like, man, yeah. 7evenThirty: Right. jason: I mean, that was what you kind of knew that, but it's also like, I don't know you. PropJosh: Hearing it out loud. Yeah. Like there's no chance. It's like the girl you love basically saying there's no chance for us. jason: I don't even know you. PropJosh: it hurts, it hurts. jason: But they had a rapport. 7evenThirty: That quiet swing home. jason: Yeah, that was kind of awkward. 7evenThirty: Yeah, I need you to take me home. I don't got my phone, huh? jason: That was so funny. That was so funny. Cause she walked out, right? She walked out. Then come back. PropJosh: By the way I know. Yeah, she walked out after rejected him and said, by the way, 7evenThirty: But that's what's like, if you've ever, you know, been in a fight with your with your with your woman and like you going home, that's a long ass car ride home. But I can't imagine swinging in close proximity. She had to hold on to him. Or quietly swinging, trying to keep jason: Mm-mm. Just in silence. Just like she hold on to him. Yeah, the whole time. Just swinging in. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: his dick from being hard. jason: My goodness. 7evenThirty: That'll be the main thing. It's the main thing I think about. Like, I have to fight it on the well. jason: It's too heartbroken, but she did. She did. goodness. 7evenThirty: Hey look, you're just gonna have to ignore that, okay? It's well completely natural. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: I have a completely functioning blood flow. PropJosh: Just ignore my spider penis. jason: goodness. The Peter Tingle. That's what he called it. The Peter Tingle. PropJosh: Yep, that Peter Tinker 7evenThirty: Mater tangle. jason: We talked about that last time. The Peter Tingle. 7evenThirty: How sick? jason: But yeah. I think we covered all the main things, right? What about the, we didn't talk about any cons. 7evenThirty: I I tell you what the con was for me. The only con to me, and I got over it super fast, by the way. jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: The only con is he didn't turn into the spider the man spider thing. That's the only thing I was like, man, he about to PropJosh: Yeah, I was like, this plot is not complet. 7evenThirty: cause they they teased it the whole movie. jason: They teased it in our movie. Yeah, they did. PropJosh: They did, yeah. And we didn't see the six arms. We didn't see the man spider. They teased 7evenThirty: Right. PropJosh: it even when it was in his brain in his mind. And it showed jason: Yeah. PropJosh: something coming toward them and stuff. And I was like and I was like, we're gonna get the man spider and it didn't show it. 7evenThirty: I thought he was gonna at least do the six on like I thought all right, here's what I guess, Jason. jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: I mean smiley. my prediction was that when he fought the hand, which was a dope ass fight, by the way. That was a ri that thank you. That was the best fight thing. It was even he had to stop and say, Man, that's so cool. Cause the way they choreograph with each other, the way they jason: That was my favorite fight scene. That's what I'm glad that was good. PropJosh: Yeah. Ha ha ha ha! Right, right. jason: Yeah. was, that was good. Yeah. 7evenThirty: The way they flow with each other, it's like five of or whatever, and they all flow like a hand, like a fist. Like that shit is crazy. But jason: Mm-hmm. That was amazing. PropJosh: Yeah. Yep. 7evenThirty: like I thought when he had the he heard the voice in his head and was like, you just gotta let go and reach inside of yourself or whatever the fuck the voice said in his head, he had jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: a flashback of s like his aunt mayor or something saying jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: some shit. And so like PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: I thought that at that point. Two more two R's were gonna buzz out of PropJosh: Ha ha! 7evenThirty: this size. He was gonna go And then I was gonna be like, PropJosh: Ha ha ha ha! 7evenThirty: shit. I thought that was gonna be so tight, man. I was like, man. Yeah, and then he was that's what I literally jason: That would have been interesting. I would have been here for that. I would have been here for it. Cause then he would have been able to fight everybody. It would all have sit down, you know. 7evenThirty: thought he was gonna be shooting the web and punching everybody with all his different arms. But that didn't happen. jason: Mm-hmm. They could have did that. PropJosh: So I I wanted it, but I didn't want it at the same time. I didn't want jason: Yeah. Why didn't you want it? PropJosh: it because this is the first time we got to see Tom Holland Spider-Man as Spider-Man, your friendly jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: neighborhood Spider-Man, safe in the city, by jason: Yeah. PropJosh: himself, doing his thing, no help from Stark, no help from the Avengers, just him. And I jason: That's true. That's true. Yeah. PropJosh: felt like this movie would be in a little ruin if we jump right into the 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: man spider. And so even though I was kinda expecting the man spider, jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: and so I'm like, okay, I'm glad they this kind of definitely shows that we're definitely getting a sequel and he's gonna probably evolve even more in the sequel. Cause they jason: He could. Yeah, he definitely could. PropJosh: definitely hinted at the man spider. This is they showed 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah, yeah. PropJosh: that he got more arachnate in his blood than human. So which means he's transforming 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. And I think that PropJosh: to the man spider. 7evenThirty: yeah, he's gonna go Maximum Spider too at some point. Cause they be grabbing from these games. I'm determined jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: for him. I thought he was gonna go Maximum Spider. Yeah, I thought when he was PropJosh: I mean all those webs that he had. 7evenThirty: doing that shit, I'm like, that's real close to that maximum spider move. jason: that when PropJosh: It really jason: he was PropJosh: is. jason: twirling down and shooting all the 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: spider webs out, that was definitely a finishing move on Marvel versus Capcom. yeah, that was beautiful. Like I said, was definitely my favorite 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Cause he went all the way up like that. Yeah, that shit was tight. I was like, that's kind of Marvel versus Capcom right there. You're pulling from the game there. I like it. PropJosh: Yes, yes. Ha ha. jason: fight scene. That was so cool to see. 7evenThirty: I didn't expect that to be my favorite fight scene. I that's actually the fight I was looking least forward to, actually. Just jason: The hand. 7evenThirty: based based on the trailer. I'm like, PropJosh: I knew that scene I knew that fight was gonna Nah, when I saw jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: that trailer I I knew that fight scene with him and the hand was gonna be good. I already knew. The way they was jumping at each other jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: That was real good, and PropJosh: in the trailer, I like, this is gonna you know that's gonna be a good scene. 7evenThirty: But then you remember he took them down before, because they was they showed that in a montage, and I thought that was it. And then jason: They showed it in the flashback. Right. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah. 7evenThirty: I was like, no, I remember seeing in the trailer, he was in like a jason: Hmm. 7evenThirty: bigger room fighting them at one point. PropJosh: Right. I yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: But Gene Gray. PropJosh: But he was it was Jean using them, right? He was fighting them with Jean in their mind. 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah, Jean Grey. jason: Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Cause right before that scene is when jason: She's so powerful. 7evenThirty: I realized it was Gene Grey. 'Cause I think sh she said her name. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: She said her own name again at some point in the movie. jason: Yeah. Okay. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, she did. 7evenThirty: I was like, it's Gene Grey. It's probably like twenty minutes late. jason: Yeah PropJosh: Yeah. jason: good. 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah, it was it was cool. But they're not the f this isn't the first movie to bring the mutants into the MCU though. PropJosh: No. Well, Deadpool's from another jason: Well 7evenThirty: That's Fox. Yeah, the PropJosh: reality, yeah. jason: This is 7evenThirty: Fox reality. jason: Sony too. this is like a Sony slash, which you notice, you talked about some Easter eggs. Let's talk about some of the random ad placements that they had. They PropJosh: Okay. jason: definitely advertised in their flip phone. So they definitely wanted you to notice that. They absolutely advertise Little Caesar's. PropJosh: Never advertise Lil Caesars 'cause Lil Caesars got special with Spider Man. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: Little Caesar's was definitely sponsored and paid a lot for this movie. PropJosh: Yeah. jason: didn't see Amazon trucks. 7evenThirty: Is Lil Caesars what they would what they were delivering to the party? jason: No, he got that delivered to him when he was like in his room. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, that's what he had, yeah. 'Cause yeah, if you get a little Caesar's pizza right now, Spider Man's on the box right now. 7evenThirty: Cheap ass pizza. Yeah. jason: Mm-hmm. Yep. 7evenThirty: Yeah. jason: Now I want some Little Caesars. This is sponsored by Little Caesars. Type in the codes. That's what we're talking about this time for your discount. TBTT for your 20 % off for your discount code. PropJosh: Yeah. Just type in the code W W T V T T E Get twenty percent off your next order. We gotta stop and do an ad real quick, guys. Anyway. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: Little Caesars. Little Caesars is one of your best pizzas that you can have, you know, anytime you're topping. Hot and ready. Hot and ready. Anytime you want it, can be hot and ready. Yep. goodness. 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. PropJosh: Go to Lil Sisters dot com and type in the code for something like that. 7evenThirty: My code don't work. Code don't fucking work. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: who the fuck is Marcus and Josh? jason: That's the code you guys type here. That's the one you guys type here. Yeah. So, PropJosh: Ha ha ha. jason: man. So yeah, I think that's the only thing I noticed. 7evenThirty: what the fuck's marketing dot? PropJosh: Yeah. jason: my goodness. PropJosh: Yeah. man. jason: Marcus is gone. There he is. He's got a roll on the floor laughing. Literally PropJosh: I got it. jason: fell on the floor laughing. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: That's the best impression I could do. PropJosh: Whoa! jason: my goodness. 7evenThirty: Never heard him say a complacency. Well, he talks like that all the time. PropJosh: I'm not right. my gosh. 7evenThirty: the fucking market to not. PropJosh: man. 7evenThirty: My stomach my stomach hurts. jason: Y'all goofy. PropJosh: So Easter eggs, we don't want to talk about the product. I mean, Sony is always gonna do product placement. They're gonna always do that. Yeah, jason: Mm-hmm. Let you know this down. PropJosh: definitely. But did y'all catch any Easter eggs? other than the stuff we talked about? 7evenThirty: Mm-mm. I wasn't jason: I wasn't paying attention to any. Yeah, I don't know. I was enjoyed. Did you get, were you really that close? 7evenThirty: really paying attention. I was really close to the screen too, so I was like Yeah, I was I was in the seat where it's like it's the it's the handicap assistant seat. It's like right behind the front and then you got the yeah, yeah. PropJosh: It's kind of front row, but not quite. It's like right when you walk in. It's like, jason: Ohhhh Yeah, I got you. Mm-hmm. I see. PropJosh: yeah, right when you walk in. That's probably where he was at. 7evenThirty: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was in the middle of that. It was pretty cool though. jason: Was it crowded? 7evenThirty: No. Not re I mean, jason: you 7evenThirty: it didn't not in a way that it affected me. jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: so for me, I watched this in XD and I haven't watched the movie in XD in a while. 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: I want to say since Deadpool and Wolverine, probably. And I love this in XD because like when he when they first showed Peter sitting upside down with 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: the world, I felt like I was gonna fall. I love that jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: shot. And then of course they did a lot of POV shots of him swinging around through the city. I 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. jason: dude PropJosh: love those. jason: Man, I'm just going to tell you, like, 7evenThirty: Mm. jason: there are definitely multiple shots in this movie that just made me, like, have a neck bleak. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. jason: Go ahead and you now. Go ahead and tell you that. But I mean, it was a beautiful, it was just beautifully shot movie, like, hands down. So I don't, I don't think I noticed any. I mean, you know, there's, of course, the Empire State. university. mean, that's like where he went. So mean, that's, that's, that's kind of an Easter egg. Yeah, because he that's where, yeah, that's the college he goes to. Yeah. So PropJosh: yeah, ESU. Yeah, he had the ESU thing. That that wasn't Easter egg. Yeah, 'cause that's the college he went that's the college she goes to in a cartoon. Yeah. 7evenThirty: is is that a Easter is that the cause you went to? jason: that's the college that Banner was speak with, you know, was lecturing at. So which is hilarious 7evenThirty: Yeah. Yeah. jason: scene when he's lecturing, they just want to hear about his adventures. It's like, is that how it is? PropJosh: You think they'd be used to by now. jason: I was like, is that how it is? If like, when you have famous people teaching a class? that how their classes are? PropJosh: Maybe the first day, but I'm I'm I've heard of actors or whatever jason: Like Lupe Fiasco teaches a hip hop class at MIT, think. PropJosh: They probably 7evenThirty: What's called PropJosh: get geeked out the first day and then after a while they'd be like used to it, you know? 7evenThirty: Yeah, play from kid and play taught for for a while at at a college. jason: Yeah, so, but that's the only, I think the college, you mentioned the, that was kind of Easter eggs, but you mentioned the figurines. Did you notice PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: Legos. jason: the Lego, the Lego figures? PropJosh: Yeah. jason: Yeah, I think it was a couple of funny shots with seeing Flash and the professor as suspects for, for suspects for PropJosh: yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: Yeah, I laughed out loud on it. jason: Spider-Man. There's probably some other stuff on that wall that are Easter eggs that we didn't because it was quick. I didn't notice I Was trying to see if there was gonna be a hint of mouths in there Another fun, it's guess it's kind of kind of Easter egg, but the the we talked about the video game idea so like the Spidey that he has he has the the tracker of the well the spider PropJosh: Spider tracker? Yeah, the Spidey Tracker. jason: trackers one, but I meant the I meant when he's looking for the crime locator, basically, you know, so he has that 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: little thing that's on his computer on his phone that pops up. That's 7evenThirty: his phone? jason: like the video game, like he's able to track PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. jason: the crime on his phone or whatever. So that's about all I can think of. Do you notice anything? PropJosh: Too. 7evenThirty: Mm mm. I thought the the jason: I'm pretty sure there's some more stuff in there. 7evenThirty: black dude that talked to him, you know, as when Gene Gray was talking to him through that black guy, I thought he kinda looked like the video game miles a little bit. jason: Somebody did mention that they said they just made it in their mind. That's gonna be him. They told me that. They was like, that guy's gonna be the mouse. That we gonna say, PropJosh: Ha ha ha. jason: that's gonna be him. So 7evenThirty: No. jason: did you know Jean Grey had a sister? 7evenThirty: Nope. PropJosh: No, that's maybe written for the movie. Maybe there's a maybe there's a jason: Okay, multiverse. PropJosh: yeah, maybe there's a multiverse where she has a sister. jason: Yeah. PropJosh: my other thing was like they don't quite have mutants in this world, but they hinted at mutants. Cause Scarlet Witch has been hinted to be a mutant. Like she is a mutant in the comics, but in this universe see you 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah, that's right. And the MCU she's hinted as a mutant, yeah. PropJosh: Yeah, she's hinted and so is Miss Marvel. Miss Marvel is hinted at being a mutant as well, 'cause I think in comics jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: She's a mutant as well. So jason: Okay. PropJosh: they've been hinting at mutants, even though we've seen the trailer to doomsday and we're going to see the X Men, but the X Men are from jason: Right. 7evenThirty: Right. PropJosh: another universe. jason: Yeah, yeah, multiverse. 7evenThirty: So that's can I I that's what I want to ask, so maybe y'all can help me understand this. Cause there's so many fucking superhero verses out here. jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: So you got Fox, you got Sony, you got MCU. Fox got the X-Men and Deadpool. Right? PropJosh: And fantastic four. 7evenThirty: And Fantastic Okay, you just cleared up something. Sony just got Spider Man and Miles Morales. yeah. Miles and the villain, jason: That's it. Technically, yeah. Everything is Spider-Man. Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah, and all his villains and stuff. 7evenThirty: everything Spider Man is Sony. MCU got jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: pretty much everybody else. And then PropJosh: Right. 7evenThirty: now over the years we've seen jason: Disney owns all that. 7evenThirty: right and Disney own does Disney own Fox and Sony too? jason: Not Sony, but they own Fox. PropJosh: They don't own Sony. It's more of a agreement with Sony with Sony. 7evenThirty: Okay, yeah. So so d alright, so this is Disney. Damn right, motherfucker. jason: Sony would be stupid to sell, yeah, Disney would be, I mean, Sony would be stupid to sell Spider-Man. That's like, they not, and there's no reason, there is no reason for them to do that. PropJosh: Right. They will never sell Spider Man. They are not letting go. They've held on they've been holding on to 7evenThirty: Right. But PropJosh: Spider Man for over twenty five years. They're not letting go. Yeah. 7evenThirty: That's cool. So jason: Spider-Man is keeping Sony in business, so they ain't gonna sell that. 7evenThirty: But so so being that that's the case, MCU, what we've seen over the years is MCU has been pulling in and doing partnerships with or whatever the fuck and bringing in people from Fox and from Sony and putting them all together in MCU movies now. All right. So with this doomsday, is that the Fox universe? PropJosh: Doomsday look like it's a mixture between Fox and MCU. 7evenThirty: See, that's my point. That's what jason: I think the official 7evenThirty: that's exactly what I'm talking about right here. You got MCU is pulling in shit. They making deals and doing shit. And you know, the mouse is a part of this with the MCU and the fox. Is jason: Right. 7evenThirty: a mouse and a fox, and they got in bed together with the MCU. And then jason: Mm-hmm. Yep. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: now you got Doomsday. So fast forward to this fucking since we're not talking in Chronological order. Fast forward to the post credit scene where it's like another Spider Man was found in this place over here. Is that the fantastic jason: multiverse in another universe. 7evenThirty: for a universe they pointing at right there? The the fox. jason: That's a good question. PropJosh: I don't know what they're pointing at, but I think they're hinting jason: What's your theory? PropJosh: well. I heard rumors of in Doomsday, I keep hearing rumors that Toby Maguire might show up in that. I've heard many rumors about that that so it might be 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: So is that why? we PropJosh: s another Spider Man from another universe, so it could be Toby Maguire. jason: definitely seen No Way Home showed you that there's a bunch of Spider-Verse and Spider-Verse into the Spider-Verse, across the Spider-Verse. Yeah, mean, 7evenThirty: And they can all enter each other. Right. PropJosh: Yeah. jason: across the Spider-Verse shows that even the animation can bleed into the reality. they showed, you know, they had Prowler. So I mean, 7evenThirty: yeah, that's right. Mm-hmm. 'Cause they had Donald Glover on there. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yep. jason: like, there's definitely that. So who knows what they're going to do with that? PropJosh: At this point, it's no surprise. We already know about the multiverse. We've seen all the other Spider Man now. So it's like jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: it is it's a matter of which Spider Man is it that they saw at the end. But it but it might be in Doomsday. I don't know. That's the thing. I have no idea. jason: So is Tom Holland gonna be in? Because that was, yeah. Because that's what I was thinking they were gonna say that, that Spider-Man will return in Doomsday. They didn't say that at all. They didn't say it, PropJosh: Yeah, I was expecting that too in Doomsday, but it just says Spider-Man will return. Right. 7evenThirty: Right. PropJosh: So I'm thinking it might be Toby Maguire. He might make it a surprise thing. If not, you know. Either way, they hinted that. That's why I'm saying. Because it's like, especially jason: I mean, people love, people love Toby Maguire, Spider-Man. So. PropJosh: put because they got the original X-Men, and they always people always wanted to put the original X-Men with Toby Maguire's Spider-Man because they all came out at the same time. So jason: Yeah, yeah, that'll be a, that'll be, that would make it make sense. I can see them doing that. 7evenThirty: Interesting. jason: So yeah. PropJosh: I just don't know where these X Men are gonna be coming from because I jason: Yeah. PropJosh: thought they were all dead in the from the original X Men movie timeline. I know exactly, so I don't know where these extra guys 'cause we've seen Professor X die three times and jason: Multiverse everything's a multiverse. I I'm worried about nothing. It's a different universe because I mean Deadpool Wolverine Deadpool Wolverine showed you that there's infinite verses of them like the fact he was looking for Wolverine assault millions of them. So yeah, so I think that PropJosh: Right. But that gambit that gambit they showed in the trailer, I'm pretty sure that's the same gambit from from Deadpool and Wolverine. Yeah. jason: from that, actual guy. Yeah. Cause it was, that would make sense. so. 7evenThirty: So then that mean that Blade could come back. jason: He could. PropJosh: Yeah, he could. 7evenThirty: Wesley s nice, but jason: Right. PropJosh: Right. But one thing I was talking to Andy about this. We're at the point now where the MCU has so many fucking superheroes, it's hard to keep up now. It wasn't like how it was back in when the first Avengers movie happened. We only had what, six of at the time. Now jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: we have so many of it's hard to keep count. jason: They each have their own movies. Yeah. PropJosh: Right? It's really hard to keep count. Like it's so many of right now. So if they leave some people out, it's fine. 7evenThirty: But I think that's kinda the point right. I think that's kinda the point of like kinda jason: I don't need air, buddy. 7evenThirty: right. It's it's like just like when you walk into PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: the comic book store, there's so many Marvel comic Marvel heroes and D C heroes that it's like all it all of don't matter at the same time. You know what I'm saying? It's just PropJosh: Right. jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: kinda like whatever whatever level is like this you know when she was talking about the small potatoes and the big potatoes it's like it just depends on jason: Next one. 7evenThirty: what plate of potatoes you're dealing with who who's important you know jason: Mm-hmm. That's fair. So this PropJosh: Mm-hmm. jason: movie, what was y'all favorite character? Because we talk about the whole MCU at this point. So what was your favorite character of this movie? PropJosh: Punisher. I really like I really like Frank Castle. He was great. He was hilarious every time he was on jason: Yeah, no, that's fair. PropJosh: screen. jason: I'm not gonna, I know we always, we always don't, we often try to avoid talking about the main character, but I can't not say Tom Holland, Spider-Man. PropJosh: I mean, yeah, of course, of course. It goes without saying. jason: It does go without saying, but I just want to say it. So yes, I mean, yeah. That's another question. Who was your, what was your favorite? PropJosh: Yeah. That's why I liked them together. It was it was it were yeah, it was it was Punisher and Spider Man for me. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: What was your favorite duo then? Cause we talked about that. Like everybody loves Spider-Man, Spider-Man and Punisher. PropJosh: I mean sp yeah Yeah, Spider 7evenThirty: My favorite dynamic. PropJosh: Man and Punisher for me, definitely just them two together. jason: Honestly for me, I think I mentioned it earlier, but I love Spider-Man and Ned. Like that was my favorite scene. Duo. 7evenThirty: Thank you. Thank you, Jason. That was my favorite pet my favorite duo was Spidey, was Peter and Ned. I love that. jason: I specifically like Spider-Man and Ned. That was the scene. 7evenThirty: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Spider Man and they it was great. Yeah, that was great. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, Spider Man and then 7evenThirty: Thank you. And I I d I did enjoy the the pairing of Frank Castle and Spider Man. I thought jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: Frank Castle was alright, but you know, he was cool, but I'm like, jason: Yeah, you've. 7evenThirty: let's get back to Spider Man kind of thing. That's kinda jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: kinda how I felt, PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: but like I thought he was cool and I thought that banter was cool. I appreciated it. But I wasn't jason: Yeah, yeah, that was good. 7evenThirty: as hype about Punisher as I was about literally everything else in this movie. Like the dopest thing Punisher did was that slow-mo shot when he was still shooting that hook while Peter was while Spider was dragging him away. That was a good shot. jason: yeah, yeah, yeah. need to watch that again, but yeah, that's good. PropJosh: But yeah, I I mean Spider Man would definitely be my favorite character. I liked everything about him. This was an improvement jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: for for Tom Holland's Spider Man. I liked him jason: Mmm. PropJosh: the most 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: in this movie than any other of the other movies he's done. 7evenThirty: Yeah, I can jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: I can agree with that. Okay, yeah, I can agree with that. jason: How would you, how would you, we already answered that other question about favorite Spider-Man costume over the years, but how would you rate like, you don't have to. 7evenThirty: I'm not really done with my with my favorite character though. jason: okay. Okay, go ahead. 7evenThirty: My favorite character in this movie is, and I think it's very intentional that this is a character in the movie. My favorite character in this movie is New York City. New York fucking city. New York City got jason: That's a point. 7evenThirty: his back so much in this movie, and they love him. And it's jason: Man, that's a really good point. That's good. 7evenThirty: it's the city as a whole. It's like it's his home. It's the backdrop. The part jason: Yep. Yep. 7evenThirty: where Josh said felt like he was gonna fall. Like you feel like. This the most New York Spider Man I seen since the Simon and Garfunkel version. PropJosh: I'm in a Garfolk. Andrew Garfield. jason: Andrew Garfield. 7evenThirty: And I I really think jason: But yeah, that's a point. 7evenThirty: because they focus on the grittier New York, but this just feels like every day New York jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: and and they and the people feel authentic. And then ha do you notice at the end of the movie, like that, you know how they do like the early credits, where it's still showing images. It's nothing but New York. It's just New Yorkers ain't got nothing to do with Peter or Spidey or Ned or nobody. It's just New York being New York. And it's beautifully shot. jason: Biggest show in New York. Yeah. This is straight up. Beautiful. Yeah. Yup. I love it. PropJosh: Yeah. jason: Yup. 7evenThirty: my f my favorite actual character is probably Gene Gray. Yeah, Jean jason: Human. Okay. 7evenThirty: Gene Gray. I mean MJ was strong though. MJ was a very strong character. I love how jason: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 7evenThirty: her her dynamic with the Punisher was nice too. Yeah, yeah. jason: It was, PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. I like the MJ. Yeah. This is jason: she has some banter. 7evenThirty: Even Punisher was Man, I see PropJosh: this has been 7evenThirty: why you like her. Like you know, like it's like, Yeah, I like that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. jason: Right. Yep. PropJosh: This has definitely been a year for Zendaya. This has been Zendaya's year. jason: Yep. She absolutely 7evenThirty: Yep. For real. PropJosh: Mm-hmm. jason: hands down acted, yeah, she just acted her butt off this year. PropJosh: This is her year right now. She's she's doing she's doing really good this year. I was like, I'm binging a lot of Zendaya stuff this year. The drama, I have not watched that yet. I want to, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: Have you seen the... Yeah. PropJosh: but the other stuff I've watched Zendaya in, I've loved. jason: Euphoria, the drama. I mean, I watched it. PropJosh: I haven't watched the drama yet. 7evenThirty: Now what's who's in the drama besides Sandya? Is is anybody like jason: Robert Pattinson. 7evenThirty: Is that the bitch ass dude from yeah, okay. jason: The Batman. Yeah, PropJosh: Yeah. jason: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah. PropJosh: Yeah. jason: Yeah, because she's, she. Right. Because you got her dynamics with Coleman Domingo. Yeah. Is that coming out this year or is it out? Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah, Odyssey, her and Odyssey, her and Euphoria, her and Spider-Man. I was like, Well now I gotta watch Dune. Yeah, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Dune three comes out this year. I was like, Well shit, let me go watch Dune two so I can catch up and watch all these Zendaya stuff. jason: She's She's like, that's gotta be 7evenThirty: I haven't even seen Doom One. jason: a record. I ain't seen one of them. I don't know. Yeah, she's a great actress. PropJosh: 'Cause I'm enjoying Zendea and everything she's in. I was like, She's a really good actress. So yeah. jason: And it does, it really, I love just the relationship that they have, Tom Holland and Zendaya. just, you can see the chemistry on the screen. It's great. PropJosh: Yeah, 'cause before them I would say I was like Simon and Garf, uncle, Andrew 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Garfield and Emma Stone had good chemistry in s in Mason Spider Man, but now I'm like 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: There's no comparison at this point. Yeah. They got the best chemistry. PropJosh: I could put that to a side. Yeah, I could put that to the side now and say it's definitely Tom Holland and and Zendaya. It's definitely them. So 7evenThirty: Yeah, that's true. jason: hands down, no, there's no comparison. There's no other relationship of Spider-Man and a girlfriend than them. So it's like, that's definitely the one on the screen. So. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. 'Cause you hurt when he hurt, it was like, that hurt when Yeah. jason: yeah. Like every time we, we wanted it, like they, they, they drew the audience in to want that. but I did to echo a little bit of your New York backdrop. I loved that hospital scene. and so just the montage PropJosh: Me too. I was gonna mention it too. jason: right before when they were just like really wanting to see Peter, you know, it kind of reminded me of, which I was like, I was thinking in my mind, I said, they better not. I know they weren't going to, but I'm like, they better not. you know, take them out. It reminded me of when Peter Parker died in the, into the spider verse. 7evenThirty: I did that did cross my mind at one point, but I knew they wasn't gonna kill Peter. jason: so it was very, yeah. Yeah. I was like, no, we love them too much. I was thinking about that. That would have been too much. That would have been too much. would have, people would have been pissed off. PropJosh: What if they did? Can you imagine if they just actually killed him off and then the movie went off and it's a directed by so and so will not return. 7evenThirty: You tell you And then and then they said Spider Man will not return. jason: That's how you piss off everybody. That's like, 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. jason: they ain't going to get PropJosh: Yeah. jason: rid of that. That much money they making on Spider-Man ain't no way in the world. They gonna stop that right now when Tom Holland 7evenThirty: Wait, so which hospital scene you talking about? You talking about when he was in the hospital? jason: Well, I'm just talking about the overall, yeah, when he was in the house, I'm just talking about that overall up until that point. Cause I mean, they had the, I think it was the Statue of Liberty light up with the colors. And then they had different moments throughout the, just like the people's signs. was like, know, he'll Spider-Man. yeah. That was funny. Interesting. Yeah. PropJosh: Well, I like the end when he was leaving out and everybody was cheering, even though Frank Castle was wearing the Spider Man mask, acting all crazy, but Peter got to interact go and see the crowd himself. And and it's like he needed that. He needed that. Yeah, he jason: That definitely made me teary-eyed a little bit. 7evenThirty: Right, he he got to be in that energy and yeah, he needed that. jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: he definitely needed that. I I was glad. I was happy for that scene. 7evenThirty: Mm. jason: Yeah, no, that was a powerful moment. PropJosh: And then and it cause it's cause it's real. That's what's so fun about it, cause right when the movie ends and goes off, you you walking among people who love Spider-Man too, because like everybody's got a Spider-Man shirt on and wearing jason: yeah. Right. 7evenThirty: Right. PropJosh: stuff. So it's like it's the same thing as the as the screen. jason: It absolutely is. Cause I mean, I walked out, I walked out the theater. Was it good? 7evenThirty: That is fun. jason: Yep. Cause they can say, everybody know, they know what you want. PropJosh: Yeah, it was like that for us too. Andy's wearing her Spider Man jacket. I'm wearing my Spider Man shirt. Folks was like, yeah, everybody's wearing stuff. 7evenThirty: I wouldn't wear no goofy ass Spider Man shirt. PropJosh: It's like he's universally loved. Everybody loves him. jason: You ain't got no Spider-Man shirt, that's all. PropJosh: Okay. jason: Yep, that's funny. So, all right, say it, man. I mean, it's PropJosh: So rating. We go into ratings. So you are so it's a neck bleed for you for this one. jason: hard to not be. Yeah, like. 7evenThirty: Yeah, it is it's it's a fucking neck bleed, Josh. Just just deal with it. I'm gonna buy this movie the day. jason: Literally, we recorded the podcast immediately. Y'all watched it earlier today. We've never done that in the theater. It was like, okay, let's watch it. Let's talk about it right now. 7evenThirty: I this movie was so hype. I ran into the first person I ran into in the theater, I happened to take the day off and I went to the theater, and the first person I see is one of my favorite rappers, who also happens to have a business that I am a a client of. So I see him and it's not drugs, goodness. It's PropJosh: Ha ha ha. jason: You said it like it is. 7evenThirty: He d he does my he does my he does he does lawn he has a lawn service, goodness. so I did yeah, I I did say it weird, huh? But no. So PropJosh: The way he said it though, it was like jason: You said it definitely like, my goodness. 7evenThirty: This is Marcus's lawyer. But No, he was the first PropJosh: Ha ha ha ha. jason: You 7evenThirty: person I seen, and it was funny because he did have a Spider-Man shirt. I jason: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: was like, yo So it was funny, we were in the same theater and everything. So jason: Hmm. Yeah. 7evenThirty: like just to y'all point, Spider Man brings people together, you know what I'm saying? You jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: never know who you're gonna see at the theater. So jason: So you didn't give it, what's your rating then Josh? PropJosh: Well, it's Marcus's rating. 7evenThirty: A neck fucking bleed. PropJosh: Well, since I'm being peer pressured, a neck bleed as well. jason: We have peer pressure. Josh is being peer pressured. 7evenThirty: You better say it. Yeah. jason: You said, you literally said earlier, this was the best Spider-Man version of Tom Holland 7evenThirty: This is the jason: that you ever seen. PropJosh: It is. Yes, it is. I've this is my favorite version of Tom Holland, Spider Man, hands down. 7evenThirty: Okay. jason: But is it your 7evenThirty: Can I jason: favorite version of Spider-Man for all the movies? PropJosh: Like from are you talking about since Toby Maguire? jason: I 7evenThirty: Yes, yes, since jason: think it's about all Spider-Man movies. 7evenThirty: Tobin Maguire. PropJosh: Okay, you you got a point. I I I have to say yes because he did the quips this time. He's joking, he's jason: That's what I was saying. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. PropJosh: older, he's stronger, he's sad. This is this is almost a perfect Spider Man. jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, because he's mourning the loss of his Aunt May. It's everything you want in Spider-Man. PropJosh: Yeah, it's 7evenThirty: So, PropJosh: everything. So 7evenThirty: yeah, you answered my you jason: He's New York. 7evenThirty: answered what I was gonna ask you. Cause the last time that I felt this hype about a sing a s Spider-Man centric singular Spider-Man movie where he's just neighborhood Spider-Man grown. the last time I was like, man, this is Spider Man was Spider Man 2 with Toby McGuire when he was on that train. PropJosh: Mm. jason: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: When he was stuck to the side of the train and looking around. And that the when PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. jason: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: I saw that in the theater the first time, I was like, jason: Okay. 7evenThirty: my God, this is Spider-Man. jason: you PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Like they did, they brought it to life in a convincing way. In this movie, they cranked that up even more. It's like this is straight up and down motherfucking Spider Man. PropJosh: I mean, when they first showed him, jason: The montage you mentioned. PropJosh: when he first showed him swinging and he had that man with him, they redid the the the cover, the very first cover. I was I was me too, me too. I was like to actually see it, yeah, it was like, yeah, that was that's true. This is the only one to do it. 7evenThirty: Yes. I literally a chill went through my body when I saw that part. I was like, yeah, to actually see it on the screen was crazy. Yes. Now jason: Of course, that first cover? Same, same. That's the thing. That's the thing. There's no other Spider-Man movie that did it like that. So it's like there's, can't, that's the first, that's the cover. 7evenThirty: the Garfield, Garfield, they they did some really good spider poses in that one though. They did some Todd McFarlane drawing style type jason: Hmm. Hmm. 7evenThirty: things in PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: there. jason: you 7evenThirty: As a matter of fact, speaking of Tom McFarlane, when did they do that shot of this Todd McFarlane drawing? I didn't recall that in the movie. jason: Well, I think they did as a cover, but he was wrapped up. PropJosh: with the with the webs all around him when he at when he's swinging? 7evenThirty: Yeah, where he's just like this. No, not when he's swinging. He's just like kinda posted up in the web, like like Jason was in that picture. jason: I PropJosh: Seeing that. jason: think they just did that as a cover. Yeah, I think that was just like a mock cover or something like that. 7evenThirty: I remember seeing an image of it. okay. Like a poster. jason: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Okay. PropJosh: But yeah, even when he was fighting the scorpion, they did they yeah, they was doing a lot of covers and doing their montage. 7evenThirty: Yes. But they did that, yeah. They did that, man. jason: There's a lot. PropJosh: They were doing a lot of covers. jason: which is great. And I'm glad they didn't have to spend a lot of time with it. It just felt like he was just constantly saving the day. And it's like, yeah, I like it. 7evenThirty: And it was tight because they all those cover shots were slow mode to let you know it this is a cover. You know what I jason: Yeah. Yep. 7evenThirty: mean? Like you could tell. That one where he was this shit was tight. jason: Which Into the Spider-Verse and Across the Spider-Verse does covers. They do that a lot when they do like a montage of the character, they just kind of like show covers. So it was kind of like they 7evenThirty: Yeah. Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah. jason: did that, which yeah, that I have no notes other than that, but I'm definitely going to watch this again. I was trying to figure out if I was going to watch it again today, but I'll probably go ahead and maybe go to Tuesday. Yeah. PropJosh: I'm gonna try to watch it in Screen X. That's gonna be my next thing is Screen X, because they filmed it s just for Screen X. jason: Hmm 7evenThirty: What screen exists a like a big ass screen? PropJosh: So I'm gonna try it out. It's like a s yeah, it's like it surrounds screen. It's like this whole it's like around you. 7evenThirty: Is that that one, two, three thing? PropJosh: Yes. 7evenThirty: That looks dumb. PropJosh: Try it out. I I jason: you PropJosh: watched Mario in that. I watched it Mario Galaxy in it. Yeah, 'cause it's like it surrounds you. It's like you're in the movie. 7evenThirty: You seen that before? Whereas you got a screen in the front and then you got a screen on the left and a screen on the right. Like Yeah, like Seren. jason: I don't think I've watched anything. I don't think. 7evenThirty: But don't you gotta be jason: Hmm. 7evenThirty: sitting to get the full effect, wouldn't you need to sit like toward the center of the theater? PropJosh: Well, not really. What they do is like you still looking at the front. Like they're not moving it. S well sometimes they kinda move stuff. But they got like stuff on the side, but it's not part of the main plot. It's like let's just say like you got if it's like if they did the Odyssey like this and they're all riding on horses or something, you would have people on horses on the sides, but the main but you're in the middle watching Odysseus 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: on the horse, but you got stuff on the side as well. It's like you're right, right. It's like you're in the middle jason: So you can turn your head and look at this kind of like a three dimensional or VR or whatever. PropJosh: of it kinda thing. Yeah, it's like a VR, yeah. So I'm thinking jason: Marcus doesn't look entertained. Yeah. Where is it that I I think we got I think North Park has a screen X one. North Park has screen PropJosh: Try it out. Try it out one time. I mean, I don't go to it that often. That's but I want to try it with Spider Man. 7evenThirty: You know, we ain't got that shit over here. We we got that shit. jason: X. Yeah, North Park has it. But I don't know if I want to do it. Let me know how it is. know, the D-Box, the PropJosh: I'm sure it's great. Yeah. jason: D-Box reminded me of the Spider-Man ride at Universal Studios. So, PropJosh: Ha ha ha. jason: which is one of my favorites, even though I've been riding that ride for 25 years, it's still one of my favorites. It's still good. After PropJosh: And it's still good. It's still good after twenty something years. jason: 20 some years, it's still one of my, I can quote it, you know, yeah, 7evenThirty: I never been on that route. jason: it's one of my favorite rides at the Universal Studios. Yep. PropJosh: It's only in Florida. They don't have it out here in California. jason: So yeah, I went on there last, what, two weeks ago. So yeah, I was ready. So I've been ready for Spider-Man. So yeah, that's, that's, that's the show. Any final thoughts? There was a, I think I mentioned the message, but the, when Jean Grey enters into Spider-Man's mind and talks to Aunt May, that was a powerful scene. I feel like that was like the message of, know, beyond a great power come great responsibility, but really just embracing who you are and knowing that you're not alone. And so like, I love how they had it where Aunt May is talking to Peter, but then she's talking to James. Like, you're not alone. PropJosh: Yeah. jason: You're in this. Nobody's going to really understand you all the way. And I was like, you know, that was good writing that everybody can relate. And this is probably why people can relate to Spider-Man so much. Because I'm like, I was thinking about that. man. Yeah, I'm not alone. And, you know, maybe everybody's not going to understand all my craziness. You know, like all that stuff is something I think that is powerful. So just listeners. You're not alone. 7evenThirty: Right. jason: Everybody's gonna understand your craziness. But PropJosh: Ha ha ha jason: yeah, that's what I love about that. So watch this movie two or three more times in the theaters. Good night. PropJosh: Okay, okay.