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3 Guys BeforeThe Game - Blowed Up Cyclones (Episode 609) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in, everybody, one and all. Yes, it is
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  Speaker 1: time for the next episode of Three Guys Before the Game.
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  Speaker 1: Despite incredibly cold temperatures and thanks to the Husky dogs
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  Speaker 1: that brought us in on sleds to do the show today,
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  Speaker 1: we are in studio and ready to roll. This is
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  Speaker 1: Three Guys Before the Game. Episode titled is Blowed Up Cyclones?
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  Speaker 1: What blowed up Cyclone? Blow them up? Yeah, just lined
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  Speaker 1: up blow them up. Now. If you're a first time listener,
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  Speaker 1: you might accuse us of not being able to use
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  Speaker 1: the the Queen's English properly. But if you know, you
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  Speaker 1: know right, blowed up Cyclones, we'll talk about the game.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about the encounter with the Wildcats of Arizona
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  Speaker 1: State coming up late Tuesday evening, late Tuesday evening, Arizona's
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  Speaker 1: already been here, Arizona State comes in. But each time
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  Speaker 1: one of these schools from like really far away come in,
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  Speaker 1: I still just I have to pause and just I
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  Speaker 1: have to reset, Like, okay, this actually this is a
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  Speaker 1: league game. It's not November, it's not December, this is
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  Speaker 1: not non conference, it's actually it's January league play.
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  Speaker 2: You think it's weird?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think.
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  Speaker 3: They think, they think, like, where are they?
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  Speaker 2: They've gone to the Great Alaska Shootout all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: they weren't expecting that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure that the Arizona Staters are having
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful time. They were in Cincinnati on Saturday. They
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  Speaker 1: came right over here after the game was over. They've
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  Speaker 1: been sitting in Morgantown with this delicious weather over the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of days. Probably feel right at home. Say
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  Speaker 1: why why weren't we in the this league before this?
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  Speaker 1: let's jump in here. Put this thing into perspective. If
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  Speaker 1: you are, and chances are you are a long time
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  Speaker 1: mountaineer fan, if you're engaging with us. But we do
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  Speaker 1: do have some newcomers as well. A couple of things
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  Speaker 1: just off the off the top of my head. I
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  Speaker 1: a long time mountaineer in the in the Kroger yesterday morning,
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  Speaker 1: got in early, knew it was gonna snow. I said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I got my plan, went
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  Speaker 1: in there about seven o'clock. I mean perfect, they already
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  Speaker 1: started snowing. Anyway, got in, got out, We're in into
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  Speaker 1: a mountaineer fan, and we were talking about the game
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Produce off and by the way, hell
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  Speaker 1: of a special on blood oranges in there right now.
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  Speaker 1: Really yeah, really good, sweet good, really good. Anyway, I said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that newcomers to mountaineer fandom, that includes
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  Speaker 1: new fans that may have moved here in the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years, or athletic administrators who have come in
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  Speaker 1: here in the last few years, I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: fully can wrap their arms around and embrace what what
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  Speaker 1: Saturday was. And a few other things that have already
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  Speaker 1: happened this season. Gonzaga, Gonzaga, Gonziga. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they fully understand it, because how many
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  Speaker 1: times has Mountaineer Nation right had its appetite whetted with
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  Speaker 1: the possibility of what could be? And on Saturday, could
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  Speaker 1: you have scripted any more of a game of significance
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  Speaker 1: honoring the greatest Mountaineer basketball player ever and then bringing in,
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  Speaker 1: by chance, the number two rated team that was not
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia picking that date that was the date that
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  Speaker 1: the West family could make it, just with all the
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  Speaker 1: different people coming in from different places, so I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I could have been anybody, but it was Iowa State.
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  Speaker 1: And then to have that performance I don't think fully
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  Speaker 1: appreciate because hoppy we've been. We've been to the altar before.
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  Speaker 1: We have been to the altar before, only to have
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  Speaker 1: your dream smushed like a bug. Obvious observations.
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  Speaker 3: I was looking for the right word, and some of
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  Speaker 3: the words that came to mind, guys were convergence, unification, synchronicity,
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  Speaker 3: when all these when all the pieces come together, just
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  Speaker 3: like you talked about Tony honoring Jerry West, I was
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  Speaker 3: thinking about Wes too, as not only like a great
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  Speaker 3: WVU and pro basketball player, but you think of the
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  Speaker 3: entirety of his career, the entirety of his career, one
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  Speaker 3: of the great sports figures in the nation's history. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's up there when you consider the body of his work.
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  Speaker 3: He's up there with Jordan and Ali and people like that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he is because of the body of his work.
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  Speaker 3: So and to play the number two team in the country.
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  Speaker 3: The way the game went, the crowd West family, there
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  Speaker 3: a great convergence that you don't get very often.
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  Speaker 1: Very rarely do you get that.
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  Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons too, that we keep
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  Speaker 3: coming back as fans, because as fans of any team,
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  Speaker 3: you have disappointment. Mountaineer Nation knows about disappointment. But every
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  Speaker 3: now and then something happens, and to be a part
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  Speaker 3: of it, like those fans were Saturday, They were an
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  Speaker 3: important part of their game. Oh and to be a
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  Speaker 3: part of it and to make a difference in what
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  Speaker 3: happened on that day made it for a I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's a stretch to say it was an historic
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  Speaker 3: day in Mountaineer sports history.
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  Speaker 1: No question, absolutely true, absolutely true.
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  Speaker 2: All timer day in the Coliseum. I mean it's right
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  Speaker 2: up in the all time great days for what you said, Hoppy,
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  Speaker 2: that all the stuff surrounding the Jerry West honoring of
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  Speaker 2: Jerry West was awesome, right, just awesome. All of the
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  Speaker 2: new gear it was out, the new uniforms that came out,
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  Speaker 2: it was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: You immediately went to the sway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I love seeing that, Stu. That makes it
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  Speaker 2: more of an event. That was a special event with
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  Speaker 2: all of that stuff that was out.
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  Speaker 1: Hop.
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  Speaker 2: I use this as my number three key to the
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  Speaker 2: game on Saturday. You ready, Yeah, I said, how about
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  Speaker 2: a little coliseum magic? Yeah, I would say, let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about Hilton magic. When there's a little WVU colisem magic. Two.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen that. So I said, it's an emotional special
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  Speaker 2: day today here in one of the toughest places to
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  Speaker 2: play in all of college basketball. We've seen days like
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  Speaker 2: this over the years when the crowd not only has
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  Speaker 2: an impact, but it becomes the difference in the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there was came through.
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  Speaker 2: Now the team has to do its part and give
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  Speaker 2: the crowd reasons to come through. And I thought they
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  Speaker 2: did and we'll get into some of those reasons coming up.
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  Speaker 2: And the way those guys played right from the very beginning. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I've said this about every one of West Virginia's top
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  Speaker 2: ten wins, which are now three, by the way, three
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  Speaker 2: on the season we're only in mid January. Said this
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  Speaker 2: each time. It wasn't fluky, No, that was grown man's
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  Speaker 2: basketball right there, Tony. That was an NCAA tournament type
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  Speaker 2: of game. That was I watched a lot of games
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  Speaker 2: before and after ours this weekend. That was about as
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  Speaker 2: good of a game as I've seen, when every possession matters.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't like first ten minutes kind of feel each
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  Speaker 2: other out. That was a heavyweight fight, throwing punches right
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  Speaker 2: from the very begin and every single one of those
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  Speaker 2: possessions mattered. I thought. It was just a wonderful game.
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  Speaker 2: So to come through on that day to beat that
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  Speaker 2: team number two in the country, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: with a coach that grew up an hour and forty
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  Speaker 2: five minutes from the campus of the team that he's
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  Speaker 2: about to knock off, and really put another exclamation point
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  Speaker 2: on what he has done Darren has done for this
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  Speaker 2: particular program. One of the all time days in the coliseum,
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  Speaker 2: I thought.
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  Speaker 3: And as you said, Brad, the way the game was
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  Speaker 3: played great defense by both teams, but particularly by West
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  Speaker 3: Virginia holding I was stayed to twenty points, fewer than
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  Speaker 3: an always score and Tony, I'm sure when you guys
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  Speaker 3: were calling the game, where every possession just felt monumental,
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  Speaker 3: and the crowd and what the crowd was doing, Eduardo
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  Speaker 3: Andre said after the game, you don't get tired because
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  Speaker 3: you're feeding off of the crowd, So that tells you
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  Speaker 3: that it made a difference. And also the defensive every
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  Speaker 3: by West Virginia and the fact that Small, the way
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  Speaker 3: Small finished in that game was just a performance for
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  Speaker 3: really for the ages as to how the game finished.
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  Speaker 3: With tim'scoin twelve of his twenty seven points in the
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  Speaker 3: last few minutes and that dunk I didn't know he
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  Speaker 3: could dunk.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh he ll ing it up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, he was about four and a half feet
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  Speaker 3: off the floor. That was amazing. So just so many
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  Speaker 3: things came together for that game.
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  Speaker 1: And as longtime mountaineer fans know, oftentimes, when you go
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  Speaker 1: into seasons where your expectations are high and nationally people
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  Speaker 1: think you're going to do really well. Right, we've had
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  Speaker 1: those only not to achieve those expectations. These kinds of
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  Speaker 1: seasons when you have zero expectation, when you're picked thirteen
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  Speaker 1: in a sixteen team league. I look back to the
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  Speaker 1: John Beeline start, same type of a deal, right, he
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  Speaker 1: was starting from scratch at that time, because you're playing
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  Speaker 1: with young guys, no transfer portal. These guys were like
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  Speaker 1: freshmen and they go out there and they just keep
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  Speaker 1: doing this and this and this. These types of seasons,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, are much more enjoyable than the ones
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  Speaker 1: where you know you're gonna be good, because when you
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  Speaker 1: know you're gonna be good, you always feel the pressure
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  Speaker 1: that we're supposed to win. It's relief when you win, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: it's not enjoyment, it's relief. But these kinds of games,
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  Speaker 1: when you're like, you know, you got no shot. Computer
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  Speaker 1: says this, percentage says this. No, you can't win here,
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  Speaker 1: you can't win there. You've never wonted. Allen Field iz,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna win. You're not gonna win here. And
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  Speaker 1: when you go get these these are the ones that
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  Speaker 1: put a permanent chip on your memory bank that you
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  Speaker 1: just will never forget. I talked to a guy this
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  Speaker 1: morning who brought his kids to the game, and he said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, those are the ones when those kids are
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  Speaker 1: fifty years old, that they're gonna be sitting around, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with the retirees brad Over in that corner at like
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  Speaker 1: you know, coffee shop or something like that, like he does,
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna be going like, I'm gonna tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four or twenty forty five. I always still
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  Speaker 1: came in here. I don't know they were one or two. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you get skiny, You know that Javon Small forty seven points, right,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna give a It was one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: games ever because people still today talk about West Virginia's
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  Speaker 1: win over UNLV like it happened four weeks ago. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: it was eighty three.
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  Speaker 3: So and people say, even even if there are greater games,
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  Speaker 3: it'll be well, there's nothing like the twenty twenty five games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And to Javon Small, Yeah, to Javon Small. And
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  Speaker 1: there's a couple of techs.
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  Speaker 2: I think twenty seven points, seven rebounds, five assists, four steals.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, So a couple of people are asking, like where
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  Speaker 1: does he rank as far as like all time performances
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  Speaker 1: among guards? Okay, okay, man like, I think you need
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  Speaker 1: to spend time on this, You need to break this down,
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  Speaker 1: you need to put your candidates in there. But I
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  Speaker 1: know this is like recency bias. But off the top
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  Speaker 1: of my head, what he's doing I haven't seen in
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  Speaker 1: forty years. I have not consistently seen a Mountaineer guard
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  Speaker 1: do what he is doing.
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  Speaker 2: He is at this point in the player of the
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  Speaker 2: Year conversation nationally. Now there'll be some brand bias and
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  Speaker 2: some other guys look votes what he has done to
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  Speaker 2: put this team on his back after losing Tucker Devrees.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing, guys, you lost a first team All
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  Speaker 2: Big Twelve performer, right, a potential pro, potential NBA pro
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  Speaker 2: in Tucker, and we just went, okay, let's just keep
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  Speaker 2: winning games. That's what's remarkable, the amount of game that
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  Speaker 2: he has the ball in his hands with high level,
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  Speaker 2: top ten defenses knowing he's looking for his shot and
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  Speaker 2: unable to stop him. He continues, Tony, I think I've
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  Speaker 2: mentioned this. Every game he's played, somebody falls down trying
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  Speaker 2: to guard him.
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  Speaker 1: Every game.
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  Speaker 2: His highlight reel plays every game he has been unguardable
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  Speaker 2: against every great defense that's come his way.
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  Speaker 3: Red there was one, well, there were multiple shots, but
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  Speaker 3: it was late in the game, and he's split twos
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  Speaker 3: and went up and hung in the air and made
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  Speaker 3: a shot because it was that was late in the game.
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  Speaker 3: But also that coach Devrees has done a really good
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  Speaker 3: job or did a really good job in a slice
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  Speaker 3: game of trying to get him rest, you know, because
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  Speaker 3: he's playing. He still I looked up and he still
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  Speaker 3: played I think like thirty eight minutes in that game,
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  Speaker 3: but thirty six thirty six, he got.
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  Speaker 2: Four minutes off instead of too but it.
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  Speaker 3: Looked like he got a little more, a little more rest.
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  Speaker 3: The way he worked him through time out for those
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  Speaker 3: kinds of things.
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  Speaker 1: Stole one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, other than the last two, he's he's been doing
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  Speaker 2: that up to this point. The last two prior to this,
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  Speaker 2: he just he just didn't and couldn't. But this one.
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  Speaker 2: Normally he likes to try and rest around that twelve
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  Speaker 2: minute mark, about twelve and a half, get him down
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  Speaker 2: for a few seconds. Then you go into the longer
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  Speaker 2: TV timeout and you try and get in. But the
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  Speaker 2: amount of things that he is asked to do on
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  Speaker 2: a nightly basis and then delivers and performs and can
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  Speaker 2: score in any way you want right, can make the three,
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  Speaker 2: can pull up for the mid range, can hit a floater,
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  Speaker 2: can go to the basket, hang and get fouled. As
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  Speaker 2: you saw against Iowa State, after what string loosened that
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  Speaker 2: defense up, then it made the lane drivable. But then
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  Speaker 2: his ability to pass as well as score, that's the
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  Speaker 2: other part of his game. He's just he has been
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  Speaker 2: simply unguardable here through what is the toughest part of
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia's schedule, against multiple really good.
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  Speaker 3: Teams and drawing double teams, fighting through double teams.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the other thing, guys, that just continues to impress me.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe more so than the raw numbers of individual performances,
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  Speaker 2: are the raw number of showy wins that this team
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  Speaker 2: has had for this staff and for Darren in particular,
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  Speaker 2: to take this group that had not played together, had
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  Speaker 2: come from all different kinds of programs, and have them
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  Speaker 2: playing the way, not just playing well, but playing the
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  Speaker 2: way in which Darren's going to want to play moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we always talk about all you got to
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  Speaker 2: establish your culture, You got to get your culture set.
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  Speaker 2: If he doesn't get the culture set right away, the
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  Speaker 2: culture is set right away. For guys that had no
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  Speaker 2: idea what the culture meant, except for Tucker coming in
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  Speaker 2: here in a little bit of Joe yesafu because he'd
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  Speaker 2: seen it in Darren. For these guys to be playing
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  Speaker 2: like they did at this level, and I give a
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  Speaker 2: lot of credit to the players. I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 2: just the coaching staff doing this. The guys buying in
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  Speaker 2: and playing at this level and playing their butts off
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  Speaker 2: and being willing to guard in a way in which
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  Speaker 2: a lot of them have never been asked to guard
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  Speaker 2: in their whole career, and they've just done it and
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  Speaker 2: executed it. That's probably the most miraculous thing about this
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  Speaker 2: program right now.
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  Speaker 1: I think what he did was he wanted to install
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  Speaker 1: his culture. He wanted to install his belief system. But
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  Speaker 1: the difference that I see is he was not one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys that was going to come in and say, hey, gradually,
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  Speaker 1: we want to reach up to this peak. Like he
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  Speaker 1: was just like, no, we're going to do it now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care who I'm inherent and I don't care
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  Speaker 1: if I've got shortcomings here. We're going to start it today,
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  Speaker 1: and I'd like to like to have it in by
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  Speaker 1: the time the season starts. So in other words, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to grow into this thing. There was no
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  Speaker 1: grow into this thing. He makes no I mean obviously
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  Speaker 1: he makes zero excuses. He lose Tucker and he says like, no,
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  Speaker 1: We're just going to keep on playing. I lose kJ
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  Speaker 1: Tenner for a game out Hansbury, so that's fine. We
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  Speaker 1: just keep going. And the.
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  Speaker 3: Fans have instantly warmed to this team because A the
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  Speaker 3: wins and be how they play, because they play in
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  Speaker 3: a way that Mountaineer fans enjoy, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Really really hard.
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  Speaker 3: The uh Brad, there might there probably is a stat
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  Speaker 3: somewhere of how many times they fought through a screen Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was just time after time after times.
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  Speaker 2: What they do, they just busted through, just what they
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  Speaker 2: do remarkable. I'm refreshing here because the latest poll should
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  Speaker 2: be out any minute. I'm anxiously awaiting that top fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: maybe top ten ranking that West Virginia's doll.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's going to happen, Brad, Excuse me, You're not
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  Speaker 1: going to go from not ranked to ten or fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: Black people not watching, No, they don't.
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  Speaker 3: You don't think he has been plus they're not seeing it. No,
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  Speaker 3: they don't the last two games when the ESPN plus
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  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 2: They don't watch, they don't know what's happening. No, we're
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  Speaker 2: not worried about how you're actually performing. No, that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get you ranked nose. Can I give you a couple
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: of numbers?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm not a voter, not a voter. How you
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: become a voter? I don't know who's voting. I don't
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: know who they are. But here's what I would say.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: You ready? Sure you know top ten wins this season
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: programs around college basketball? Alabama has three, Kentucky has three.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: They lead the country. You know who's tied with them,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: West Virginia. There's three teams that have three top ten wins.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: West Virginia is one of them. How about top twenty
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: five wins? Is that what you just asked me? Yes,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you asked me about top twenty five wins? Alabama has six,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Auburn has six, Kentucky has five. You know who's next?
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Who A and M in West Virginia with four. So
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: there's three teams right now that have more top twenty
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: five wins. There's no teams that have more top ten wins.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And you're telling me. This is in the top fifteen team.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that they're probably not going to go
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: from unranked to that high. I'm not saying they don't,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: so I should.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Pay attention to these rankings with that's the case, the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: loss is so far for West Virginia. Now, I'll flip
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: over to the Ken Palm rankings. Thirty three Pittsburgh sixteen,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Arizona three, Houston, twenty nine, Lewisville. You haven't lost to
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: anybody below thirty third in the Kenpom rankings, and you've
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: got all of those wins. This is a very balanced
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: and deep resume. For this team to not be ranked
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: right now is criminal. For it not to be ranked
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: in the fifteen is absolutely joke. There, I said it.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Glad you're coming. He's getting spirited. He is, tell you what,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: he's as hot as a cold is outside.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Three teams with more top twenty five wins. At this point,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I assume that NET, that real nebulous net formula that
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: nobody knows what goes into it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Not helping, Nah, not helping.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: It's not doing the calculations.
• 18:39
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• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, Tony. Huge part of the problem to what Brad's
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: talking about is that and you guys are concerned about
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: and do a wonderful job on the radio broadcast. The
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: game was on the ESPN Plus. Okay, and so it
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: has limited viewership.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Number one.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Number two is that at halftime they I think it's
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: a pre recorded segment. They don't talk about they don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: talk about the game. Okay, there there was they talked
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: about the the nominees for the Wooden Award.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: By the way, they talked about Javon Smallder and that
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and did not talk about Javon Small.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I think it was precol because they never gave the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: score the game, or it's it's pre recorded.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there, it's It's just it's not it's not visible.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: It's not Brad, I agree with you completely.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to make an observation as to why
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: you're you're just not getting you're not breaking through because
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: you're not getting the media coverage. If that game had
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: been why if that game had been on CBS nationally
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: and everybody had seen it, probably change a few minds.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't and nobody saw it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's all kidding his side. Why do you think
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: that's happening.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Here's what I think. I think there's a lot more
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: people looking. You know how much I love the numbers, Yes, right,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more people that have now
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: caught on to advanced analytics, but they almost use them
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: to the exclusion of watching the game. And when you
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: look at West Virginia's numbers, there's some losses like the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: loss to Arizona looks worse score wise than maybe what
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you thought. The loss to Houston wasn't. If you watch
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: that game, that was not a sixteen point game, but
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: it ended up saying sixteen points. Then you go to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: West Virginia's offense. The way it's playing suppresses some offense
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: in numbers sometimes right pace, style of play efficiency, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: so that lowers you in the computer rankings, which the
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: net takes into account, and which Ken Palm takes into account.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: So I think it drops West Virginia down. So they're
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: thirty sixth in Ken Palm right now. That is absolutely
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: not commiserate with the winning resume that I just gave you.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: So this is one of those times, and you know me,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I default to the numbers nine times out of ten,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: maybe nine and a half times out of ten. I
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: think this is one time when it's with a particular team,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: it is hurt West Virginia because its numbers haven't kept
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: pace with what it's doing on the floor wins and losses.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: We saw this in reverse just a couple of seasons ago,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: where West Virginia's numbers continued to look really good in
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Ken Palm. We kept look at it going sixteenth in
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the Ken Palm rankings. Right now they've lost six of ten,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and so that time the numbers were ahead of what
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the results were on the floor. So all joking aside.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: If you want an explanation as to why, that's certainly
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: not an indep explanation, but I think that's what it is.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of these voters. Listen, Tony, it's hard
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: when you're as in depth with one team as we
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: are to then watch all of these teams around the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: country and then have to put a top twenty five
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: vote in there. So there's a lot of surface level
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: looking when you fire your votes off, and I understand
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: why that is. But if you haven't watched this West
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Virginia team, there's no way to appreciate what it's doing.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And there.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: There is a program bias that is based on how
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: the poll starts at the beginning of the year, the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: teams that you're seeing and you go, oh, Michigan's lost
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: a couple games, but they're still Michigan in there starting.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: So that happens too.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: You're going to have equity that you're going to maintain
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: if you're up there in the beginning. I do think
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: what likely will happen and probably starts like right now,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it started a little bit this weekend. Is some of
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the respected national college basketball writers will start singing West
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Virginia's song. And when that happens, the others like trickle
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: down economy hopey or is that how they call it anyway,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: just like you know what I mean, like a sprinkler,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: it'll start to come down and it will hit others
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and then others will find over this Jeff Goodman, if
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Pat Forty is saying this, if Mike Decursi is saying this,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: then it becomes real whether it's fair or not. But
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that'll that's going to start happening. Darren Devriez is going
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: to start to become more and more requested for national interviews,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and as a result of that, the balloon will start
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to get a little bit bigger for WVO.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: And those things. We're in the midst of it now.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: They sort themselves out by tournament time. They because it's
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: going to be ultimately how you do in.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: The trunet they do and just keep again as well,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: always say keep winning and these rankings don't matter. But
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: it's it is. I get where it's frustrating from a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: fan perspective when you've had this start and this isn't
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: just oh, it's a great rebuilding job. This team's fun
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to watch, it's good. The results are there. I just
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: gave them to you.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: The wins over ranked teams are there. I go back
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: to Kansas for a second, and I'll use the Ken
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Palm rankings. They have wins over number thirteen in Ken Palm,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Michigan State and number one Duke excellent wins. Outside of that,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Kansas's next best win thirty two North Carolina and forty Cincinnati. Right,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: they're ranked ninth in the latest eight people not one
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that's out today, but last week's. They're ranked seventh in
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Ken Palm's ratings. That doesn't match what their resume tells you. Right,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: that's just to name one example. You don't want to
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: you don't want to get me going on the ACC teams, Tony,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I won't. I won't get into that.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: New rankings are out.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Can I guess West Virginia fourteenth.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess. Despite its loss in Morgantown, Iowa State
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: falls just one spot to number three because they lost. Well,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you when you lose to the number six
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: team in the country in West Virginia.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Then you only jopl in Scotlands by victory over West
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Virginia and UCF Houston up three to seven, up three.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Well, you beat a very good West Virginia team at home,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: you're gonna jump way up barely one on.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: The road, Kansas drop three to twelve.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Kansas could go Kansas could go twelve.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: And am I going to lose my mind? Yes, I'm
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: gonna lose my mind?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Do I need to shut your mic off?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: This is going to be outrageous. It's don't tell me
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Western is not ranked.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: You can't look at my mind.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: If West Virginia you're still in the others receiving votes category.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's ranked twenty fourth, three, twenty fourth, there's number
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: there are number twenty three too low at thirteen and four.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: We'll just go win, go in avoid a flat spot.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: On Tuesday, Well, I.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Was still beat two. What are two top ten teams?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: They beat Kansas and they come back and beat West
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and lose to West three.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty wild. Well, wait, coaches again, you don't
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: know on the coach's poll if the coaches are actually voting.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I think if the coaches actually voted, that's why West
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Virginia was ranked twenty fifth mess last week. At least
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: you were at least in their poll. If they If
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the coaches are actually voting, what you might be wonderful?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: What's the coaches voting me? The sports information directors oftentimes
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: go like either the SID will either do it himself
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: or herself, or they will go to the coach and say, hey, coach,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: here's my yeah twenty are you good with this? And
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: he might say, now, move this one here, move this
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: one here. So it's it's a little bit closer, but.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Hopefully you get a few coaches going, what's West virgin
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: jarened Dever's doing a great shot there? Hopefully respect Here's
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: here's the thing besides all the I get it because
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: you got to turnround play a gamermous, so you don't
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: want to scream about getting not ranked hoppy and then lose.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Go take care of your business wain again in Marrow'll
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: just keep waiting and they'll take care of itself. But
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: it's you're criminally underrated right now.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: This is perfect though for West Vintain. That's great. I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: mean this is classic West Virginia yes, put the chip
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: on the shoulder, keep putting to slap the chip on.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Slap it, give them something to go.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Not only did you have a his story unbelievable moment Saturday,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: but you're also disrespected, which is perfect, which is perfect
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: for West Virginia.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Right and surely, guys, I mean the AP ranking couldn't
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: mean less, right, It really mean not mean less correct,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So all due respect, of course, hoppy not mean less.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Keep winning.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Where does palm have you have West Virginia seated in
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the tournament?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: That's always he doesn't do that, but somebody does. You
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: did add up another twelve. Now you're projected twelve and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: eight in this conference, which would be just simply that's
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: coach of the year stuff. If you win it absolutely
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: if you win, if you go twelve and eight, quite frankly,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: if you're less than twelve and eight to be considered.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Coach of the years stiff, did you break down any
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of the numbers on the Iowa State game? Let's do
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: them then, So I checked the numbers. I'll just go
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: right to the numbers.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know what your number one number is,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I know what your two top two numbers are.
• 27:53
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• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Iowa State game, did you have any moments during the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: contest when you broke the game down afterward? Do we
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: are like, whoa anything? Smoke you?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: No? Because I mean there were a ton of impressive statistics.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: But I think, guys, all this stuff we talked about
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: going into this game, West Virginia did and that's why
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: it came out in terms of the win, and I
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: think a couple of the things. Let's start here with
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: one of the things we talked about is you had
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to control Iowa State in transition. First and foremost, you
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: had to keep them from running. They wanted to get
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: out and run, and they make a living off. What
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go into second is trapping the ball,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: creating turnovers and then pushing it up the floor for basket.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: So you had to first and Foremost's let's start there,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: let's control out of the traps. And I thought it
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: might help West Virginia to have just played Houston hobby
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: that wanted to do the same exact thing. They're going
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to not just hedge the ball screen in the middle
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: of the floor, They're going to jump and try and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: trap you and get the ball out of Jamal Javon
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Small's hands. So what you try and do there is
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: we talked about this on Thursday's episode. Handle it, don't
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: turn it over, first and foremost, and against Houston, there
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: were just too many of those twenty five points off
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: those twelve turnovers live ball turnovers. So handle that, don't
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: turn it over, then get the ball out of your hands.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And Iowa State's going to hard rotate up and try
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: and cut that next pass off. Stop right there for
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: a second. Iowa State didn't get up and cut that
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: next pass off for a while on Amani Hansbury and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Hansbury was outstanding guys that ability to pick and pop.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: So you set the pick and you turn for a
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: pop and ready to shoot that. He's done that really
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: really well the last two games against Houston and Iowa State.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: What do you have against Iowa State? Four threes? So
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: he does that. That changes West Virginia significantly because now
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the defense is in stress. What are you going to do?
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You want double team Javon, Fine, We're gonna kick it
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: to Amani am I. He's gonna make a three. So
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: what do you have to do? Hopy, You got to
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: make an adjustment? Right, You either got to back off Javon.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Now you're left with Javon one on one, which in
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the second half that paid dividends. That's where Javon started
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: to get into the lane and attack the rim and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: put pressure on the rim. Iowa State was in real
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: trouble as soon as the money started making threes. That
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: happens right there, and you've got significant problems. So that's
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: number one. Handle the trap, but then expose the trap
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and attack them. And even when they roll up on Amani,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: now you kick it to the third player that they've
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: over rotated on and it leaves another person opening. West
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Virginia had more points off on guarded catch and shoe
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: jumpers than it did off guarded catch and shoe jumpers,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: so it had the ability to get into space and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: make that work. The transition advantage was absolutely flabbergasting.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Flabbergasting, Hop flabergasting because you had to do is that
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: even a word? Yes? Absolutely, it's good.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: So two things happen, you shut them down. That's a
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: top fifteen offense in terms of transition points per game. Hop,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: you came into the game top twelve. You were number
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: twelve in defensive transition. I said this after the game, Tony,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: that's good on good and West Virginia's good was gooder
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: than Iowa States good.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: It was gooder.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Nineteen to two advantage in fast break points for West Virginia.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: So that's two parts. You totally shut off their fast
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: break and transition game number one and number two you
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: needed to run. Darren wanted to come into this one
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and push in transition as well, create your own turnovers
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: off a defensive red get up the floor and push
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: it before Iowa State had a chance to set up
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: that suffocating defense, before you had to set up an
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: offense that's only predicated on running good stuff. He wanted
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: to get down the floor against some easy buckets. A
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: nineteen to two fast break advantage against the team that's
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: fifteenth in the country in transition points remarkable.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: And Brad capitalized. I think the number related to that
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: is the steals.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Fourteen steals, fourteen steals against the number two team in
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the country. And that's part of what led and it's
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: mostly what led to that to getting those runouts and
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: those turnover problems for Iowa State. The other part of
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: this we keep talking about how if you give Darren
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: a chance to draw some stuff up that you're probably
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: going to get a good look. Not only did you
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: get good looks, you executed.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Are you ready for this number, guys, hm, Darren run's
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: good stuff.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: West Virginia got twenty nine of its points, which is
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: forty five percent, almost half of its points after timeouts
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: and off of out of bounds place.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Man, that's good stuff. That's a good number.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Forty five percent of its points came off those two things.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Add in the fast break points and you're up to
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: seventy five percent of West Virginia's points came off fast
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: breaks after time out your out of bounds play.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Can I ask a dumb question related to that be
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: the first time thank you?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Is?
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: What don't we talk about in sports a lot at
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: this level is that you know the other team makes
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: mistakes or making mistakes or trying to get everybody to
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: do the right thing. How does he get guys that
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: he just got a few months ago to that often
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: do the right thing?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Question, Yes, yes, I've been asking that all weekend. I've
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: been to. I can't tell you how many practices, hundreds
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: of hours of practice. The magic is in just that.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: The magic is in his ability to get these guys
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: and again the guys to buy in and play like
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Darren and this staff want you to. It's simply remarkable. Right,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: turnovers are down for you, way up for the other team.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: You play smart, you play gritty, you play gutty. It's
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: not perfect, but it's remarkable the style in which they're playing,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: in the effort they're giving.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You know what else is an unusual thing and an exception.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: We've been around this business a long time, all different
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: kinds of sports. Right, talk to coaches all the time.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: How many times has a coach said to you, I'm
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: gonna make you laugh here about three seconds, dumbest player
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I've ever coached, can't learn, can't run anything. We've been
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: trying to tell him the same thing, right, never ever,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: ever hear that once with these guys, like coaches always
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: put it on the other guy. I told him, he
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: comes to that screen today and what do they do.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: He has a way. It might be just with this
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: particular group, but chances are if you hit a look
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: at his history and his winning percentage, which is seventy
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: three percent, he has the ability to teach, and these
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: guys get it. And I've never seen a coach change
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: as much in the course of a game to a game,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to a game to a game. He's constantly changing what
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: they're doing. So that's why when you see these games
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: sometimes West Virginia gets off to a good start, it's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: because they're running things that the other team has not
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: scouted ever. They spent they spend all the reparation like Okay,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: this is what they're gonna do. They're gonna come off
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: here and the other and then they just completely change
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and they go, look, that's why you'll see guys out
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: of place, and it takes them a while to see
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: what they're doing.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Kansas is a great example that changed what he did.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: He also they also spend a great deal of time
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: on the particular matchup, but also putting guys into spots
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: where they can do things well. Right Sincere Harris, which
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: we got to talk about him defensively but offensively, he
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: struggled from three early, so they didn't just say, ah, well,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I just keep shooting sometimes it'll go in, and I'll
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: go in. At some point, they put Sincere in different
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: places so that the defense couldn't say, hey, you're only
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: shooting zero percent from three, we're gonna sag in the
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: lane and provide an extra helper. Darren says, was that right? Well,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: is that right? You're gona take your defense. Here's what
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: we're gonna do and move. Sincere doing totally different thing
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: than he had done to make the defense now have
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: to go, well, now we got to guard this guy.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: And then what happens then? Since Sarah gets some open
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: threes and he starts going from there because if.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: He don't do that, and if you don't do that,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you're basically saying, Okay, you can playoffs five against four. Sure,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: And so you just say the guy out there, oh,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you're not a threat.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: He just simply said, you're not gonna play us five
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: out of four. We're gonna make you guard him. A
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Joe Yesafu, for example, talk about a guy that has
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: come a long way from where he got here is
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: he's rehabbed from that hit hip injury and got himself
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: back into not just a playable Big twelve player, but
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: a massive contributor. Basically helped win you the game at Colorado.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Two of the last three games he has made monster shots.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Against Kansas, Yeah, then against Colorado and then on Saturday.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Saturday, the inside of two minutes to go, right around
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: two minutes ago, he comes in and hits that layup.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: That was a wow. No one's talking about that. That
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: was a massive bucket.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: He had a big three as well. But that's not
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: just random. That's running some things in some clear out
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: situations to get Joe and be able to take advantage
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: of what he can do. You find ways to get
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Powell open. Already talked about how you get Ammani
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Hansbury open. How about the progress of Eduardo Andre We
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: haven't talked about that enough. From where that kid was
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: in June to how much you're asking him to handle
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the ball hobby. You're feeding offense through him almost every possession.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: In his ability to distribute and to get to the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: basket and block shots. He's one of the top shot
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: blockers in the country defensively, So you're just getting ma's
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: effort out of all these guys. Toby o'connie. They spend
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of time with Toby on Toby's offense of
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: how to get Toby shots right when he's really good
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: at backing somebody down into the lane, How do we
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: get him the ball there? But he can hit an
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: open three, as he did on Saturday. So they just
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: do a great job of putting guys into spots where
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: they they can utilize their skills. It's really it can't
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: be more impressed with how they've put that together.
• 37:47
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  Speaker 3: I was stopped in at a local go Mart to
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: pick up three oh four and they did have three oh.
• 38:37
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• 38:39
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• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Took it up to the counter and the checkout individual
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: there said, hey, what's the deal on this three oh four?
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I said, I want it's a very good beer, so
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I could give that a try.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: That well, didn't know about it, so you're in there
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: selling it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a beer, ockening it. I just did you
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: fill up with gas because they got the three fourth
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: thing on the gas pumps. I didn't. Okay, that's still gone.
• 39:00
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• 39:01
  Speaker 2: in that you.
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  Speaker 1: Are the beer of the month and the month of January.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: We had gomart check it out. Did you have one
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• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I ran this snowblower yesterday. Did my driveway? Did two
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: of my two of my neighbors. Yeah, came in and said,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a tall, cool three oh four.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Awesome, very nice. He's pretty good. Refreshing, right, Yes, refreshing.
• 39:24
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• 39:26
  Speaker 1: a snowblower all through January.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Beer the month, the entire month, easy to find. What's
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: seventy some go Mart locations?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Beautiful?
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Can a couple more numbers. Let's go defense for a second,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and hoppy. You said this earlier. This team's winning because
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: of its defense. It has not just been kind of
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: good defensively, it has been absolutely elite. We mentioned the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: fourteen steals. Here, here's a number for you. Ready for this, Yes,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: steal personal foul ratio might be the first time we've
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: talked about this. You're steel to personal foul ratio important
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to get the steals, but you don't want to foul.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Can't be handsy SPF the last five games. The last
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: five games, West Virginia has been outstanding in this category.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: They've averaged point five steals a half a steal for
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: every foul committed. Okay, I'll put that in context. If
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the season had ended today and you finished with a
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: half a steal for every foul committed, point five, hop
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: you'd be in the eighty ninth percentile nationally.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: So pretty good.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: So it's been a good job by westerning last five
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: stealing without fouling versus Iowa State, So half a steal
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: per foul got you in the top eleven percent nationally
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: against Iowa State. One point zero eight steals per personal foul.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really good.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: That's that's really good. The flip side, Iowa State, which
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: came in as a top five defense on Kenpom top
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: they were top five, tony. Their rate was point five
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: to two steals to personal fouls on the air, basically
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: what West Virginia had been the last five games, So
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: extremely good versus West Virginia point two five steals per foul.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And that's aided by missing a bunch of alcohols that
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: West Virginia should have gained. But that's neither here nor there.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Well, the officials let the young men play about that though.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: The ability to play that level of defense, that physicality
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: come up with those steals that lead to the transition
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: points without fouling remarkable.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Red one stat you have not mentioned, and maybe it's
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: because it's too obvious Iowa State one of seventeen three pointers.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I was just getting there. Oh sorry, but thank you,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: you're right, thank you for the leading.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: That would also require some digging. I'd like to see
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: all time Coliseum poorst three point shooting performances. That obviously
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: is right there.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: A couple things. West Virginia is now sixth nationally and
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: opponent three point field goal percentage. Now, there's a lot
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: of people that do deep analytics, advanced analytics that will
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: tell you that's mostly a number reflective another team shooting
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: port that there's a lot of luck involved into a
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: team not making threes against you. So okay, I'll buy
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: that to an extent. I will also say it's a
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: trend with West Virginia. West Virginia's defense helps force teams
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: into missing some threes as well, so six nationally in
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: that category. Here's part of why you won as well, Hoppy,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: you should have taken this for your obvious observation. Threes
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: are worth more than twos. West Virginia had eight more
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: three pointers made than Iowa State did. Your plus twenty
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: four points. Iowa State had eleven more two point field
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: goals than West Virginia. Normally you have eleven more field
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: goals than somebody you're probably winning, but Iowa State, you
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: want to continue to try and pound inside. You want
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to back people down, You want to go at the rim,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: and I get why they did. They had a massive
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: size advantage have at it. West Virginia countered that by
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: making way more threes than you did ballgame.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: And just some superb under the basket defense in the
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: late going. Did not file made shots difficult, but they
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: had point blake shots. Monti Hansbury had a collection of
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: rebounds late in that game that would have swung the game,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: you know, certainly to Iowa State side. They got looks
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: and West Virginia just fortified itself right around the rim.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a Hansbury number. Brad. You were saying,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: does his three point shooting make a difference? Obvious answer, Yes,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: last four games he is shooting fifty percent from three.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: He's nine of eighteen. So to your point, these guys,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: these guys being the coaching staff when they recruited him
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: from Illinois, this is exactly what they thought he could do.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: He's an undersized five. He's really a power forward. They
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: thought we can bring the other teams big out. He
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: can make shots, and obviously when that happens, it forces
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of other things to an opposing defense. And
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: so it'll be really fun to see. I think only
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you know he'll only get better. He's still a baby.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: He's sophomore and making shots now over these last several games,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: he's got twenty on the season. His confidence is now
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: going to be peaking. He would be a whole he
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: could be. I'm not saying he's gonna be Kevin Pittsnagel,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: but he's going to be a guy that can really
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: hurt opposing defense.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And it just changes what you do. As I outlined earlier,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: now you're in some real stress with what you do
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: with Javon Small. That opens up the penetration. Now you
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: got to collapse. Now you got to kick for a
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Jonathan power at Joe Yesafu sitting on the wing. A
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: couple other numbers here and then we'll get moving. Amani's
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: also moved into the top sixteen percent of players nationally
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: in defensive rebounding rate. You mentioned those big ones he
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: had to seal that game. How about that top sixteen
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: percent offensively offensive rebounding He's in the top eleven percent nationally.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: How about Eduardo Andre He's got himself in the top
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: How about this, I'm doing math on the fly.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Here, always dangerous, top.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: One percent of players in blocked shot rate. He's ninth
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: nationally overall.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Well, he start playing games with that metal that he
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: was wearing after the games the change, I hope, So
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: that'd be kind of a nice addition. Yeah, Also off topic,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: stunningly uniforms. I don't get into the uniform thing. I
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: stay away from the uniform thing. People become extremely passionate
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and argumentative over uniforms. I'm just saying this. They need
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to wear those uniforms more often.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: They were good. I mean, I know it was beautiful,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: throwback to the very West era, and that's a.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Great look, Like I would say, necessarily gonna make people mad,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Like those grays don't do anything, No, no use those
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: as your sator.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I like both, Tony, I like the Grays. I like
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: that Blue a lot.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Him Again, while you're drifting, how about just the fact
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: that I mean you were. I think we use the
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: fact that ESPN Plus had a pre recorded halftime, so
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I missed what they did. I mean I saw a
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: couple they did a couple of cutaways to it, but
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: to have Karen West there and Johnny and Johnny's brother.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Ryan was there and his other brother, oh dog go
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: on it. And I'm sorry, I don't remember his name,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: is it Andrew? But his son, his brother's son's name
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: is Andrew.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: And I saw that the cutaways on TV a number
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: of times showed Karen tearing up. I mean, what a
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: what a special day that was, and you guys got
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: to be part of it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing. And really liked the idea about
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the university to permanently retire forty four across all sports.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's really really good. Yeah, really good.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: One other note, defensively, we got to mention Sincere Harris,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: who played extremely well. He had he was matched up
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: with Keishawn Gilbert most of the day, held him below
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: his average, held him below his assist total. I State
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: only had four assists on twenty five made baskets all day.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I'd seen that's usually about a fifty percent assist ratio.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Westfordinney locked that up pretty good. It became basically one
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: on one with Jones was her only offense or throw
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: it down into the low post for those easy shots.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: There was not a lot of passing and extra passes
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: being made. A lot of that had to do with
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Bucks defense out front on Gilbert then switching over to
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Jones late when you knew Jones was gonna want to
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: get a shot up there late. So Sincere continues to
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: take opposing point guards just out of the game plan.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, Jones is a smooth player. You can score he
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: can Oh, he can score it. He can score it
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: all three levels, as.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Like Jerry West's son Mark Mark. So Mark, Ryan and
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Johnny were here and Mark was joined by his wife,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Son Andrew I knew there was an Andrew in there.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Got to meet Michelle Wee Johnny Johnny's wife. Yeah, she's long.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's as you could say, man, you talk
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: about that, Yeah, you could just tell like, wow, hit
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: the ball, Yeah, yeah, got two nice little little kids.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Got the baby babies in the baby's still a baby baby. Well,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: it was just it was just yeah, very nice, it
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: was fantastic. Couldn't couldn't have been anything.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: But by the way, this is this doesn't mean anything,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: but I want to give it to you anyone West
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: his junior and senior year, he averaged thirty six minutes
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: in twenty seven points. Saturday, Javon played thirty five minutes
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: at twenty seven points. It is just well, nugget, that's well.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Here's the other one's the many things not correlation causation.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Just here's another. Whow So he hasn't played in over
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: sixty years. Here still holds seventeen school records. That's unbelievable.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Played three years. No three point shot, still the all
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: time leading score.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: That's pretty remarkable.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, are you kidding well?
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: I averaged twenty seven points hm hm, And like Javon,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: played thirty six thirty seven minutes a game, didn't get red,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: it didn't get much rest.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Didn't get much trest.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Pretty cool day, pretty amazing, cool, amazing. Yeah you guys
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: ready to do this? Yeah?
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: When I gotta do Arizona State preview?
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Oh my bad? Oh?
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Can I give an obvious in Arizona State sure in
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: a state likes to shoot the three. Brian correct a
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: little bit. They uh thirty seven percent from three. They
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: shoot a lot of threes. West Virginia number two in
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: the league on three point defense at twenty eight percent.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Is that a key?
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Brand? Is that a key?
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I'm asking you a key, all right, just asking a key.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: West range sixth nationally and three point percentage. As I
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: said earlier, they don't shoot as much as West Virginia
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: does from three, but yes, it'll be important. Here's here's
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: a couple of things that jump to me. This is
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: a spot where West Virginia's got to get its mind
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: right quickly. That's the first part. The fact that you're
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: at home helps nine o'clock game scares me a little bit.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Does that keep the crowd down some? But you've got
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: to get back and be ready to play.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: With the cold and the late start not conduce of right,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: there will be a significant difference in that building than
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: there was Saturday coming up here on Tuesday, and so
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you're right, you've got to be The staff has really
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: got to juice these guys back up, because.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Your guys have to just be expecting that and ready
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: to play. You got to bring a lot of your
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: own jew in this one. I expect the people that
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: do come will be extremely loud. We've talked about that
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: at football and basketball. I think the people in the
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: building will be really loud, but it won't be jam
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: packed like it was the other night. So you've got
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: to bring it. This is an Arizona State team, as
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, they've lost four in a row. They're
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: on the second leg of a long road swinging. They
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: lost to U SEE Cincinnata back on Saturday. So keep
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: them in the mindset that it's like, Oh, I just
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: want to get home, right, jump on them? Can you
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: jump early and get going? They have five players that
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: average in double figures. Here's where you've got to take
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: advantage of them. Can you get some offense going here?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: We've talked about how Westerning has had to win these
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: games on the defensive end. That'll be the hallmark of
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: this team. They'll still have to win it defensively, but
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: you're getting an Arizona State team that's twelve out of
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: sixteen in the Big Twelve and defensive points per possession.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: So they're twelfth in the Big twelve in offensive points
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: per possession as well, so your defense, can you win
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: that battle, which you win most battles in the Big
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: twelve so far defensively? Can you win it on the
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: offensive end as well? Here's where the defense can step up.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Arizona turns it over a lot. They're right around the
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: bottom one hundred teams in the country in turnover percentage.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Against a West Virginia defense that's top twenty percent in
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: terms of teams that force turnovers. So that'll be a
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: big one. Just like Iowa State. Can you get some
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: turnovers and get out on the break before Arizona State's
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: length gets a chance to set up this.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: This is one where obviously you gotta just get this,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: take care of business, avoid the letdown. This team, as
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: you said, it lost four in a row. Long road trip,
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: they've been gone forever. The game's not un till nine
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: o'clock at night. They're not gonna get home till six
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning. This one is set up for
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: you to get another win. Not an easy win, because
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: nothing in this league is easy, but this you would
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: pencil in as a win, correct.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a computer will. But I'm gonna say this,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: this is going to be harder than it is easier.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I agree, really hard.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of tech. This is an athletic talented
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: more talented. If they come in here and are jack
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: and ready to play, you're in for a hell of
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: a fight. I mean, they've got dudes. I'm gonna get
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: into a couple in a minute. They've got dudes. You
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: just need them to still be miserable from four losses
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: and on the second leg of a trip. If you
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: can get that mindset, I feel pretty good. But if
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: they decide to play, they've got guys. Here's a couple
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: of other things to watch. Their top one hundred nationally
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: and free throw attempt rate. So can you keep that
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: steals to personal foul ratio going hoppy because you don't
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: want to give them easy points for a team that
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: at times has struggled offensively outside of making threes. Another
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: area to watch, don't turn it over. Will say that
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: every game that's Darren's number one key. But if you
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: do watch for this, because Houston punished you on this.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Arizona likes to shoot threes off live ball turnovers forty
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: percent of their shots. When they create a turnover, they'll
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: come down and want to fire a three, they're making
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: nearly forty percent of those in the last five games.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Arizona State's making seventy percent of its threes off a
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: live ball turnover. So if you turn it over, somebody
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: better get back and try and force them into two,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: not three. The other part I want interested to see
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: how this works out. This hasn't killed West Virginia, but
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: you're getting a team that doesn't necessarily rebound it extremely
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: well on the offensive side. That's unusual for what West
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Virginia has faced. Arizona State's close to a bottom one
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: hundred team when it comes to offensive rebounding rate. Iowa
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: State was a top sixty, Houston was a top fifteen,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Arizona was twentieth, Oklahoma State was fiftieth. You've played nothing
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: but teams that really hit the offensive glass hard, and
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: you've held your own. Arizona State hasn't all season. Make
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: sure it stays that way.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Breaking news. What do you got? Javon Small named Big
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Twelve Conference Player of the Week again appropriate third time
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: in a massive sixteen team league. Yeah, third time.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Dude, seven year National Player of the Year votes.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson's won at three times he wanted In November eleven,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: November eighteen, wanted again December sixteen, and Javon has now
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: won the award twice in the last three weeks. And
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: when league plays.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, I was just going to say, give me, give
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: me some extra bonus points when playing in league play.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing, guys. Look at Look how West
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Verdane has started this league play Kansas, Arizona, Houston, Iowa
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: State in its first six games.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: And how often did we talk about, boy, that's going
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: to be brutal. And it has been brutal. But you've
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: come out of that much better than you would have expected.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Maybe not, you came.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Out of there was expected.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: He came out of four and two in that stretch.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: You can't stub your two. Here's the thing about in
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: this league, man, there's still fourteen of these suckers left.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: You know, two more league games this year. There's twenty
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: of these things.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Well you look at the results, though, and teams really
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: struggle on the road.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I mean they may get wins roads, tough road is hard, man.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Look at you look at Houston. You see it barely
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: got out of there. They travel Houston traveled. Should have
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: called the travel. Don't you agree to see the play.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to let one Roberts traveled when he scored
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: that go ahead bucket. Did you see it was watching
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you another thing you're noticing, with all due respect,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: four more teams in the league, that officiating gets thinner
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: gets thinner. In the past, you would have games like
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, where you would have two established dudes that
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: you knew, like, okay, we're fine, you can put a
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: third guy in there. He's coming along. That's fine. It
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: will work him in there and make sure he doesn't
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: screw things up. Now it's not the case. So that's
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: what he's saying now that the officiating isn't as good
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: because you've got sixteen teams and on Saturdays, you know
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of those officials who work both leagues. You're
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: not necessarily getting the best of the best of the best.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: You'd be better off playing a Sunday to get a
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: good crew, in my opinion, or a weird off day,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you know, a unique day when not everyone is playing.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: You got a better chance.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: So that Sunday game, though you had fifty six fifty
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: eight fouls.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was fine. Okay, it's fine. We have the
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: right guys I mean, okay, yeah, you had the right guys.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: I disagree, but it looks like it looked like that
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: both coaches were upset with the officiating.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Saturday. Here's how I yah, Saturday, Here's how I look
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: at it. Man, like they're going to get some wrong.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Totally get it. But at the end of the day,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: what I want knowing that at the end of the game,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I just need to have a guy or two there
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: that I know isn't going to jack the thing up. Now,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: there's a couple I tell him for the game start.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: So you see that guy right there. I said, you're
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: going to get a couple here, and it might even
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: be late. He's just here. You're going to go why.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: And then there are some guys that you know at
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the end of the game, even though they may have
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: had a few view off during the course of the game,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: like they'll take care of you.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: My stance on it is this, and it's really hard
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: and I would not want to do so let me
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: give every disclaimer up front. I get it as really
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: easy to sit in these chairs and criticize.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I don't mind a miscall here or there either, except
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: when it's late. I'll probably track that statement at some
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: point during the year. It's the style changing that gets me.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: And certain teams are allowed to play a certain way
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: without it being a foul called when you are not,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: meaning if you're going to drive to the basket and
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: someone jumps you and bangs you and prevents you from
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: getting to your spot, if that's not going to be
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: a foul, then it can't be the foul the other way.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: When West Virginia does it, it cannot. So you've got
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: to decide whether you're calling that or not calling it.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: And when games switch during the game on the style
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: or when it begins with another team is allowed to
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: do certain things physically that you're not allowed to. That's
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: where I have an issue.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Are you saying it was inconsistent Saturday.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's been inconsistent in a lot of
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: these games, and just in general, don't be inconsistent. Don't
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: assume because a team plays a certain way that they
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: should be allowed to play.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: That certain way.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. It's enough funly fishating.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: You good?
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got more of it? Run short on, you.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Know, Jonathan Powell growing in front of our eyes. Yes,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: not playing like a freshman, stick his face in the fan.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Let the team in minutes played on Saturday.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: They they really worked him to have a big tough
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: game on Saturday, and this is going to be for real.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: He stuck his face in there. Super encouraging. When you're
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: a young guy and you don't take a step back,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: but you take a step forward. Did you see well,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you did.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: You were there after the game where three of the guys,
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: it was Javonne and I forget who else, they jump
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: jumped up on top of them.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Sure, right in front of them, was standing in front
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: of me.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: This the joy.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: That's how it looked from my seat.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Let me see that.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I tweeted it out. So did I Did I see it?
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I did? I saw it? You saw?
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: In fact, had my hand on Toby's back at one
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: point so we wouldn't fall backwards into me. I did
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: not want to take a charge from Toby. Just great joy,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: great joy, great joy, great joy.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Just great joy, just great joy. All right, let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: shown on television during the Iowa State game, and fine
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  Speaker 1: looking Phil certainly outfits you too. To the nines. John
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  Speaker 1: in Saint Clairsville.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, John.
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  Speaker 1: You guys do look nice. Thank you gotta represent Hoppey
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  Speaker 1: final look. And Phil, I mean there's no question, no,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, there's really sure.
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  Speaker 2: Phil's got nice stuff, man, Yeah, he does terrific nice stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Scopes Senator and.
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  Speaker 2: Dan fine looking fil today? Is it?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Shirt? It's nice and warm? You know? I got a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: layer up? Yeah? Good John. I got a text from
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Phil say, I think it was you know, remember Logan
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  Speaker 1: from Greenborough County.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked to him after the game.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Remember him. You had your picture made with him when
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: we went down there. He was over there at Phil's.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Was he getting stuff? Scope? Senator and Dean Emeridith. Why
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: does there seem to be a consistent amount of astonishment
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: of how well the Mountaineers are doing despite having only
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: one returning player on the team along with the new staff.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Isn't the reason this year's team currently sits at thirteen
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: and four and four and two is because everyone on
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: the team is new. Let's be honest, it was a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: great thing. Darren wasn't saddled with returners from a team
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: that only won nine and lost to powerhouses of the likes.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: With all due respect of Monmouth and Radford. The success
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: we will see this season is because the new roster
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Darren put together, including a guy who's playing at national
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidate level, is not in spite
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: of it. The success comes not in spite of that.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Doug and Winfield. How about this one, Texter says, this
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: is Mike and Myrtle. I broke the seal on this
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night at seven oh five pm. I'm the deck
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  Speaker 1: in Myrtle Beach. I've been saving this for something special.
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  Speaker 1: What a great night to be a Mountaineer. Look at that.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: That's a bottle of eighteen sixty three. That's some very
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: very high level stuff right there. Very high level. I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: think Pat McAfee might have had one of those, Brad
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: when he came to town for the rich Rod.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Sures snow on that railing, I have a lot more
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: on mine.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Texter says. My wife and I are watching the Iowa
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: State game. She's reading a book. I tell her, hey,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: you're missing a good game. She responds, Tony has already
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: said six times the Mountaineer players knocked down to the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: floor and there's no call. She was actually counting. That's true.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: It was a rough game Texter says, I heard Jerry
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: West's family all got to the coliseum on a Lou
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Wendell pontoon boat. You know what, that is crazy? But
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what isn't that amazing? All the way
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: from the all the way in from the West coast,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, all the way in from the West coast.
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  Speaker 3: We went through the Panama Canal.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Probably came down and around, probably came down and around.
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  Speaker 1: You know, folks, it's amazing what Lou I think Rich
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Rod when he came back up from Jacksonville State for
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: the press conference, I think he I think he was
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: on it. Probably. I think all mountaineer coaches when they
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: go recruiting now they use lou Wendell pontoon boats. It's just,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: you know, airports are so time consuming, you get delays,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: you get in your lou Wendell pontoon right there, that's
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: where they leave from, no security. That's the court of
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: call right there, Brad. You see that, that's the court
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  Speaker 1: of call for lou Wendell pontoons. And folks, if you're
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: in the boating world, Lou Wendell is the premier pontoon
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• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Baker probably is smiling so big and so NonStop that
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: his face hurts.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: I saw he gave the coach a big hug after
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: the game, big extended hug he gave Darren one.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Darren was fired up after the game, Brad, he was,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: He's pretty.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: There's a guy who is really really into the game. Okay,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: I mean mean, I mean every possession offense, defense, He's
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: completely focused and always like giving you this like let's go,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: let's go, let's go. I mean he's he's focused.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Kind of like you. No, and I mean this snake
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: no no no no no no. I mean this in
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: this way like he would never ask his players to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: do anything that he wouldn't do, and so I think
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: the same thing kind of thing here right when you
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: were at work, like you would always be like, hey,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: this is what needs to be done, and we could
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: see you doing it. He leads by example, I want
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: you to play with energy. He's going to give you something.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: He gives you energy. Right.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't take a possession off either. No, the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: team does not take a possession off.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Mom and dad were there first time really yeah, first
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: time in in from Applington of course, nice Applington reference.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Good good for them?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: Was Now what another little nugget as to the how
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: special the day was?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Sure? Correct, you said, think about it, put it in perspective.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: You grow up, you say, it's less than two hours
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Brad from Applington to hour forty five to and here's
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: a kid growing up, hearing about him, hearing about him
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: here and finally gets a chance. You know, he played
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: him against he played them against him once when they
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: were when he was at Drake correct, But this is
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: like this is his first okay even up power for
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: power four and he gets them. Yeah you talked to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: him after the Yeah you did, obviously. Yeah. How was he?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: I mean he was he was as fired up as
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: he gets.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: He was, He was the as as most good ones do.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: He immediately went to He was excited for the guys.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: He was impressed how hard they played, played their bleep off.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah what he said after our interview, Yeah, yeah he was.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: He was fired enough. So I don't think he ever
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: gets giddy. I think he gets content. I think he
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: was a little giddy right after. But yeah, that then
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: it goes away, goes away. Yeah, hey, three guys, Dalton
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: from Rigidly. All I can say is Javon freaking small.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: This team exceeds expectations constantly. I know majority of West
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Virginia fans just love hard work by the players. It
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: feels like that culture is coming back or lost to Houston.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: We didn't love, but we have continued to see the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: team efforting. But tonight was awesome. Let's go Tony. How
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: was your calling the dunk? But you had a big
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: call in it. Yeah, those are pretty easy. It was
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: a good one.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: His last thirty seconds was really he won't say that,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: it was really really was really good.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: That was That was as exciting as two minutes can
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: be in basketball.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. The javan taking over from the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: one thirty nine mark to the ten second mark, twelve
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: straight points Tony I said ten on Saturday, it was
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: twelve in that stretch accentuated or punctuated with that dunk.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Oh the dunk was nice, but when he just stepped
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: back and shot that, Oh my gosh.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Have you gone back and watched the dunk anymore? You
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: need to go back and watch it might be one
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: of my favorite. Recently, Buias one of my favorite dunks
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: of all time. He hammers it and it doesn't pull
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: himself up, but pulls himself through almost like a dismount
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: on the high bars, and he looks like he's forty
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: five feet in the air. He hammers it, swings through
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: and sticks the landing like that lat The part after
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: the dunk is one of the cooler things you'll see.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Go back and watch Tall. He's listed six to three.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: That's he's six two six Straye.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Is that right? He's ever been of three? Is he?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I think he's ever been of three? You know, he's
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: had a couple of really nice leaps this year on dunks,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: one that he wasn't involved in. Remember Gonzaga.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable picture Sincere Harris going in Sarah dunk and he
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: goes up to dunk and there's a picture from behind.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: It's a great photo that that javan is up jumping
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: with Sincere. When Sincere goes up to dunk, Javon's jumping
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: with him and might be even higher than Sincere.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: What's I mean his vertical has to be Oh, he
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: can get up, you can get up some I remember
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: we met the photographer of that picture, Kevin. You met him,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: didn't next, Texter. It's a great day to be a mountaineer.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: How this team fights, plays, unselfish, tough as nails, d
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: with short bench unbelievable. I consider myself a delusional fan,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: as my expectations seemed to always be a touch unrealistic.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: But I never dreamed we would have wins over Gonzaga, Arizona,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Iowa State, and Kansas this early end of the season.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Thirteen wins never considered to possibility, even with a healthy Tucker.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Thank you coach Devree's staff team for returning the pride
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Jesse from the Woodlands, Texas. Do you realize what you
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: just read?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't get over that wins over Gonzaga, Arizona,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Iowa State, Kansas.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: He said this early in the season, Buddy, if you
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: got that in one season that would be unbelievable. What's
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: up with that? The Woodlands, Texas. It's kind of an
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: interesting name, isn't it? Like most cities don't have a
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: THU in front of it. Where do you live? I
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: mean the Woodlands? Why isn't it just Woodlands Texas? I'll research?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: I mean the Woodlands sounds like, you know, it sounds
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: like a retirement, like a housing development. Where do you leave?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I live in the Woodlands. Help you give me some
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: history on that? Not chicking Texter. Wow, I've never seen
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: anything like the victory over Iowa State. I got emotional,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: just like Brad and I wasn't even there. Amazing signed
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: by j D from the Southern coal Fields from Joe
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: in Texas. Allo, three guys. My eyes have almost dried
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: from the tears of joy at beating Iowa State. And
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: on the day when my childhood hero was being honored,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I was thrilled to hear you guys talk about Darren
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: winning the mid season Phalan Award. But there is another
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: mid season honor with a ridiculous omission. It's laughable that
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Javon Small is not on the Wooden Award mid season
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: watch list. Brad one hundred percent correct that Javon is
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: playing at the level of National Player of the Year.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Tony and Brad. Tony and Brad, We'll see you in
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Lubbock in a few weeks. I'll have a Texas treat
• 1:15:31
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• 1:15:34
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• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: National Championship tonight, Ohio State against Notre Dame Texter. Listener
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: from episode number one, first time I've ever texted, Wow,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: where does Javon Small's performance rank as the all time
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: single game mountaineer performance in the coliseum? If he continues
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: at this rate? Where could Javon rank as an all
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: time WVU guard? His performance against the Clones was special.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: Amen, It truly was. That was This is a little confusing,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: what's up with that? But the Woodlands is an area
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: just not far from Houston, and it was originally a
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: timbering area Woodlands, and then yeah, it became I think
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: it became almost like a bedroom community for Houston. And
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: it's a special purpose district, a special purpose district which
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: has a special designation in Texas government.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably more than I need to know. Sorry, you asked, No,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: it's fine. I'm glad doctor. Other two guys, we are
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: very likely at West Virginia to have three consecutive Hall
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: of Fame basketball coaches time. With all due respect to
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Josh Eiler, whom I give so much credit for the
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: impossible situation that he was put into. Has that ever
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: happened in the history of college basketball? Chris from Cape,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: formerly of Mullet. So what he's saying is John Bline,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Bob Huggins, and he's already got Darren. He's got Darren
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: penciled in for the Hall of Fame, So that'd be
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: kind of like that's a future bet. Yeah, Darren's got
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Darren's got a lot of years coach and left. But yeah,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: that possible. I mean I wouldn't. Yeah, very well, could happen. Hay,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: three guys, Craig and Winfield. My comment is about the
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: basketball team and coach Devreese's impact. The quality of the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: basketball that we have seen the team rise to in
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: such a short period of time is just remarkable. In
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: my opinion, especially as a non basketball guy, watching a
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: West Virginia game over the last several years has not
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: always been enjoyable, win or lose even in games, we
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: have lost this team and style of play enjoyable and
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: to speak, Coach Devrees has clearly earned whatever an appropriate
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: extension for a coach in his first time period at
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: the major level, and that's a huge understatement. Here's hoping
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: that Ren will continue his excellent administration and offer an
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: extension in the earliest and most appropriate timeframe. Maybe something
• 1:18:20
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• 1:18:23
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• 1:18:25
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• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I think long term, just you know, coaches and athletic
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: directors going forward are going to want to be at
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: places where they know they have the opportunity simply to compete.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I think you'll lose people when they feel that they
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: are walking up a mountain and can't and they're not
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: having at least I'm not saying they have to be
• 1:19:18
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• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: gives me a chance to be competitive. I think that's
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: when you'll lose people. If you, hey, we just can't
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: fund this or not, and you're looking at all the
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  Speaker 1: other schools on top of you that have it and
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: you don't have it, that's when you're going to lose people.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: I think as long as you give them those tools,
• 1:19:38
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  Speaker 1: Can somebody take a stab at explaining to me how
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: in the wide wide world of sports the net ranking
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: is calculated. Apparently this is well beyond rocket science. I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: am flummoxed. I understand it's too early to get the
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: ulcer over such things, but if the quad one wins,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: we've already collected including now Iowa State, don't make us
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• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: and sweet. Javon Small is the best WV basketball player
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: since fill in the blank. That's some Devon in the
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Goshen Road. We know him, right, we know Devin in
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: the Goshen Road. Is that one of your posse? No,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think. Okay, that's what.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm busy looking at quad one wins right now?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Of course you are, isn't uh.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Wes rg now with five of them?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, what you would have to do to say
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Javon Small's the best guard point guard since? So you
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: just start going down. Okay, who are the last ones? Right?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: So Deuce Deuce got a little bit longer, right, a
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: little bit longer of a tail. But numbers, Javon's numbers
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: are better than Deuce's right now.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: But again they'll play out well just that, I mean, see,
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  Speaker 3: it's still a long season, still out of games.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: But right now he's on it. He's on a heater. Yeah,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: he's on a vendor right now. Jeff from Sandyville. I
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: have been a Mountaineer fan for over fifty years, and
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: this has to be the best coaching job I've ever seen.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: You and Brad's call of the game makes you feel
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: like you're at the coliseum. Great job. Why do you
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: go start heading over there? Hop? Can we get you
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: in the building soon? Last basketball game you were attended?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Did you go when Zach came in? Or you were
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: out of town when Zach came in that time? I
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: was I wanted to go, and I was out of town.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: So what do you think it's?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: Man, gosh, fifteen years, maybe longer, maybe fifteen years maybe twenty.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: You know Rex hasn't been there about twenty Brad, Yeah, Ucla.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: He's thinking about going UCLA last time.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Did he tell you we guy that cuts our hair? Rex?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Do they have a fair weather fans section? That's probably
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: right that we should.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: No, Hey, hey, I understand you know. Schedules are Schedules
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: are tough. Sometimes they conflicts.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Pay attention, I pay attention. The fans come in all ways,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: you can be there, that's great. You can listen to
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: the radio broadcasts. We appreciate that too, or you.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Can follow, or you can watch halftime when they have
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: a pre recorded segment. That really, I thought, is Michael
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: and Clodin.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: So you just sink the radio broadcasts up to the
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: ten that. Yeah, it's easy.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: I did it yesterday on the women's game. Super easy.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: You can do it on the television, well, sure, I did.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: It yesterday Varsity Network app. Just put it on your phone,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: listen to the game, and then you just pause it.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Wait, way, play goes right the real perfect. Yeah, it's
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: first of both worlds.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: I'll do that. I listened to listen to Junior called
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: the game there yesterday. By the way, Junior gave me
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: a stat Saturday night after the game they won again,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah they did, but Junior gave me a men's stat.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: He said seven of Javon Small's nine field goals against
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: Iowa State came with West Virginia either down by one
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: possession or up by one possession. So seven of his
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: nine field goals came at crucial moments. And Junior picked
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: that one up. It's good. Then he came over and
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: picked up his laundry. That three pass exchange that ended
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: with a small dunk to seal the game had me
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: standing and fist pumping in my living room. I need
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: those kinds of moments in football again. Hopefully rich Rod
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: can bring those days back. Michael and Clodin. Rich gave
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: us a coach's clinic after the game was over. Yeah,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: he came over. He was very, very impressed with the defense.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: And the physical Yeah. I said that was a hard edge.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: He agreed. He like.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Those guy's busting through screens.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: He was a fan.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Senator Tony and Hopomnia. Hello. I had to cut
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: my basketball practice short at George Washington Middle School in
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Eleanor Saturday to let the boys catch the end of
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: the Iowa State game. As you can see, they enjoyed
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: the outcome. Keep up the amazing work. The assumed mayor
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: of Eleanor, so he did send a little video, and
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: what it was was after practice was over, they had
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: a big TV in their gym and Country Roads was
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: playing and his entire team grabbed each other arm in
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: arm and they were swaying back and forth singing Country Roads.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: It was very cute. Sorry about that, assumed Mayor, but
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: the video quality was less than good. Charlie from mid Lothian.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: You guys called a great game yesterday. In case Brad
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: ever decides to return serve based on what you did
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: to him on that last road trip, here's a new
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: one liner that you can use. He can use against
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: you lined up shamed him. Apparently he's referring to when
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: I showed you a picture of you sleeping in the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: plane with you, which you took.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Thanks Charlie, I had forgotten he did that. That's right,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: personal thank you.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: I've shared and we may or may not have this picture, Jacob.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe I shared this photo before, hoppy like, but given
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: the events on Saturday, maybe it's appropriate. Again. I was
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: in the fourth grade and I received my bitty basketball
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: certificate from Jerry West at the Charleston ymc IS. I
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: love those pictures man. So that's Charlie from minwethly so
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: West handy on the certificate. Little did Jerry know at
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: that time that mid that Charlie would become one of
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: the all time great Kroger gas thieves right onto a life.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Jerry thought he was just going to give a kid
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to play the game of basketball. Instead, he
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: became one of the greatest petroleum ripoff artists. Ever?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: Is that one of the Is that one of the
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: best pictures though?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Ever? I liked those pictures with Carrie West. YEA love
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: it Texter. Do you know if the long sleeve warm
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: up shirts the team more Saturday are going to be
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: available or are they team only. I've been to several
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: games and that was my first with floor seats and
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: it was a dandy let's go out here as I.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Think those are retail?
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Are they?
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: I think? Don't hold me to that, but I believe so.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Some of that. A lot of that gear was really
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: really nice, very nice, really nice specialty. The polo shirts
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: that these student managers were wearing, those were really nice.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: And the coaches quarter zips. I like the logo and
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: the thing was really nice.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: A lot of fans were making investments in that gear
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: and they had a nice day.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: My boy, my boy Chuck over at the team shop
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: sold out. Probably, he probably had a day. When you
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: think Brad not Probably him and Gavon Small were both hot.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: They had a day.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. So, all right, last to rate my plate.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: Here we go on before you do that, because that
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: kind of transitions can I give one shout out?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Please?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: So before the game, Jake Our's dad came up, was
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: down on the floor. I came out to say hello
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: from from wester Mooin. So we had a nice conversation
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: and he had another gentleman with him, and he said
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: to me John did John Hour when we got done,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: said here, you know this guy. So I assumed there's
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: a buddy he brought from Iowa. And I'm thinking, well, John,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know everybody from Iowa. I've been there a
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: long time. It's not like West Virginia, where you know,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: thirty some years have been there. John appreciate that though, no,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: don't know who this is. The guy steps forth and
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: introduces himself and it was an all time great introduction.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: He says, Hi, Brad, good to see again Eric Munson
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: Fair Meadows Elementary School. That Eric, I should have sent
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: this to Jake. There's a picture of Eric on the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: side there.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: You went to elementary elementary school together.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. He's friends with John back in West
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: Mooin and they hang out. John got him to come
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: out to a West Virginia game. He's decked out in
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: WV gear. So he shows up for this game and
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: gets a win in his first appearance, I said, I
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: still return you guys.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys went elementary school, metals elementary. Yeah. Oh
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: my gosh, that wild wild So thanks.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: Eric, good to see you, appreciate you. Uh, here's the picture, John,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: thanks for bringing Eric by.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's crazy. So, like you got all
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: these Iowa connections now, because you know you're from there.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Darren's from there. You know of Noby And I had
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: to say thing when John Beelan was here, he's from
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: my hometown. Yeah. So he would bring literally they would
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: bring a bus every year and all of his cronies
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: from up in Lockport would come down at least once
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: a year and they would just like relish in it.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: He was from Lockport.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to Yeah, oh yeah, go ahead with
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: rate your plate there.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Sorry. Anyway, he's just teena but he went the same
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: high school. Oh really, he went to Catholic high school.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: I went to public high school. It wouldn't let me
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: in the Catholic. Well I went. I went eight years
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: to Catholic school and then they said, now that's about enough,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: go over to the public school.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: Now. By the way, Eric verbally committed to be a
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: West Virginia fan for the rest of the season. Good
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: to have that, he said, his team his favorite team's
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: given up too many points. He likes the defensive style
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: of the Mountain Air see verbally committed.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Do you have to do any in?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: I'm committed as be a WV fan for the rest
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: of the twenty four to twenty five season, he.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Says, glad to have them. Welcome a board, aer, get
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: on the bandwagon. Here we go. Rate my plate. I've
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: got two for this show. This is really good smash
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: burgers made on a homemade breosh bun with homemade bacon jam,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: pimento cheese, and burger sauce from Tim in Vienna. And boys, No,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: that is a burger and right you can almost feel
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: that thing. Very tasty. That's well done. I mean, he
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: get it, dude. Homemade bacon jam. You ever heard of
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: bacon jam? Hoppy? I haven't. It might be a little
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: much for me. I'll tell you what. Uh probably out
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: No, it'll take yours.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can have mine.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Take both of them.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Now. This one's pretty intense too, man. Hey, guys, great
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: one in Morgantown against Number two cyclons. My mom is
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: in from Utah meeting our newborn for the first time.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: We watched the game. Then I made everyone some steaks.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: Rate my plate. Here we go, a little surf and
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: turf pan seared New York strip, spaghetti, alfredo, crab balls,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: and mixed vegetables. That sounds good, thoughts. Oh, and yeah,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I mean that's you got it all right? That's good. Yeah,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: everything's there, well done, well executed. I like your composition
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: on your shot. He goes up or left with the
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: pasta comes back over with the crab balls underneath that
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: he wedged in those mixed vegetables really good. I didn't
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: take any pictures of my plate yesterday. I spent the
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: entire day, entire day in the kitchen made lamb shoulder.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, you remember the young lady that I bought
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: that lamb from that does the three guys listener, Well,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: one of the pieces of the lamb was a lamb shoulder.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Did that yesterday with red potatoes that I convection roasted,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: gave him with some crispness, and then I did a
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: massive pan convection roasted broccoli, carrots and zucchini, and man,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: it's good. Perfect for the day, you know, cold, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: so that was good. Junior came over for that too.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: So comes gets his laundry, gets a free meal, then
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: uses takeout boxes and take some hary. We had a
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: beef vegetable soup that I made. Good, very good. I
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: think this retirement will get you into the kitchen a
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: little bit more, a little bit more. Yeah, I think
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: you'll like it more. I think more and more you'll
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: like it. I'm not I'm not worried.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not in your league.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: Just reps, just reps. Just do reps. Don't worry about it.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: Just do reps like anything else. You'll get better. We'll
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: get better, all right. So what do we got? We
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: play Tuesday, We're back Thursdays. I'll work for you guys.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Sure think so. So we'll recap Arizona State, will preview
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: K State. Got some important games this week, folks. I'm
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: not I'm saying games that maybe aren't going to be
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: on the national Hey watch this game, watch this game.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: But for your team, for West Virginia, these are huge opportunities.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: You just cannot stub toe take care of business. This
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: team has not toe stubbed. Keep it going and like
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: I said earlier, when you don't expect it, these are
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: the special seasons because a year from now there's going
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: to be high expectations with this team. Yes, right, so
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: like that won't be as fun. I'm just telling you
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: right now, this will be more fun. When you start
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: the house from the dirt and you're building the foundation
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: is always more fun just building them than putting all
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: of the detail work in. Just get the next game
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: might be helped if you come over to the game.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: They need your support. It's gonna be a cold late day.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: You got nothing going on. You can sleep till eleven
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: in the morning.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: Maybe I will.
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• 1:34:21
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• 1:34:25
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  Speaker 1: That would be fun, That would be funner and gooder.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: All Right, we're out special thanks to our producer doctor
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: Jake back on Thursday. Thanks for being with us pre
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: guys before the game. See it