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S1E16 - ' Las Dos Fridas' · Dished at Birth

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DANI: People are being really nice to me on Instagram
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today for some reason. You know when sometimes
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people are like really in the comments on Instagram
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and then sometimes they're not?
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KARA: Oh are they really
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in the comments today?
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: I think everyone's
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on their phone today because they don't want
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to work.
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DANI: Do you own business casual clothing?
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I guess you do.
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KARA: Yeah because I go to the office.
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DANI: I'm getting headshots taken tomorrow as part
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of a brand event.
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KARA: Okay.
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DANI: It's like one of the
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things they're offering and I have no idea what
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to wear.
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KARA: A button-up. Do you have, like, a nice
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blouse?
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DANI: I just, like, was thinking about our
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business casual queens.
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KARA: Oh, Bay and Daphne?
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DANI: And
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I don't know how to emanate that. Because I don't
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want to look like some LinkedIn fraud. I just
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want to look like me, but, like, the nicest version.
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KARA: My office is such a spectrum on that. Because we
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are the... corporate office so it ranges from
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people in full business suits but then there's
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guys in sneakers, jeans, and a hoodie.
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DANI: My office
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is really all over the place.
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DANI: I think the only
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thing is like I just try not to look sexy, like
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that's really my only outfit guidance.
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KARA: That must
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be so hard for you.
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DANI: Thank you.
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KARA: Anyway.
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DANI: Anyway.
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KARA: Should
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we get to the show?
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DANI: Yeah let's do it.
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KARA: Okay, cue
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music. MUSIC. Season 1, episode 16, Las Dos Fridas, or
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The Two Fridas. Have you seen this piece of artwork?
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DANI: I looked it up before watching the episode this
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time.
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KARA: Well, it's at MOMA.
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DANI: I don't know that
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I've seen it in person.
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KARA: It's beautiful.
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DANI: I'm gonna
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be honest, Frida Kahlo doesn't speak to me.
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KARA: As someone with a disability, she does speak to
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me.
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DANI: But my tastes are changing. I also used to
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really like Monet, and now I really don't.
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KARA: Same.
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KARA: Anyways, if you ever end up at MOMA, The Two
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Fridas is there. So go look at it. This episode
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came out February 7th, 2012. I like that we're
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recording right around the time these episodes
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came out.
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DANI: It's fun.
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KARA: I think this is actually
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the one painting that actually encapsulates the
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episode.
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DANI: Yeah, I was really glad I looked it
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up beforehand because then I was like, wait,
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this is perfect.
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KARA: For those of you who don't know
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the painting, it's a double -cell portrait of
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Frida Kahlo herself. There's a Frida on the left
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who's wearing this white European -style Victorian
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dress. And the Frida on the right is wearing
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a traditional Mexican dress and they're holding
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hands. And it's supposed to represent her dual
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heritage because she was half Mexican and half
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German. So yeah, Bay's new identity as a part
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Latina woman really comes into the forefront
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this episode.
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DANI: And Daphne's identity as a non
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-Latina.
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KARA: Also comes into the forefront.
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DANI: The amount
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of times she says, it's Vasquez in this episode,
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really.
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KARA: I know.
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DANI: I feel for her, but also.
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KARA: Yeah,
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let's get into it. We started off at the guest
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house and Regina is on the phone with immigration
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looking for Angelo. She's on the hunt for Angelo.
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KARA: No luck.
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DANI: She basically says they're so disorganized.
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DANI: He could be deported already. They wouldn't know.
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DANI: He could be lost in the system. They wouldn't
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know.
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KARA: Yeah, so. We don't know anything about
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Angelo, and we're not going to find out this
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episode. But Adrianna does say, well, after I
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called ICE, I warned Angelo, so he may have fled
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before ICE got to him.
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DANI: Probably would have been
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good to say that sooner.
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KARA: Yesterday.
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DANI: Yeah, it
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seems like it's at least the next day.
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KARA: Yeah,
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because it sounds like Regina's been on the phone
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all morning with immigration.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: So maybe Adrianna should
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have said this beforehand. But she's kind of,
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she's just satisfied he's gone.
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DANI: Yeah. But his
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door was kicked in. So I do feel like it was
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probably...
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KARA: Forced entry.
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DANI: Forced entry of some
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kind.
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KARA: That is true.
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DANI: I don't think he kicked in
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his own door.
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KARA: Also people who don't care about
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Angelo being gone are John and Kathryn kind
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of.
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DANI: Yeah. They do not care.
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KARA: Yeah, we're in the
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kitchen and Bay's arguing with them saying, can
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you try to help him get him back? And they're
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like, sorry.
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DANI: They're not being very supportive.
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KARA: These are people who have a lot of power and
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money.
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DANI: Yeah, they have so much. Like, these are
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not really things you can compare. But I'm thinking
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of when Daphne lied and said I lost my hearing
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aids. The way they were, like, ready to write
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a blank check. Ready to call whoever. Like, you're
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telling me that John Kennish doesn't have pull?
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KARA: Bay said you can't call an immigration lawyer?
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And they're like, no. Sorry.
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DANI: They don't have
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his number?
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KARA: It's so odd. But they're busy anyway,
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cleaning out the fridge, because Kathryn's
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mom is coming tomorrow. Exposition time.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Apparently she is very concerned and frightened
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by her mother.
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DANI: Yes, it's the third time she's
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cleaned out the fridge.
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: I felt a lot of
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sympathy for Kathryn this episode, and then
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also kind of bewilderment. I don't know.
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KARA: I think
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KARA: I did too.
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DANI: Like I would never be stressed in
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that way personally. And I can't imagine my mom
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being stressed in that way.
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KARA: Okay.
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DANI: She stresses
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in different ways, but it's never like they're
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going to judge my fridge.
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KARA: Okay. So you and I
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have different grandparents.
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DANI: Right. That's true.
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KARA: As I was watching this, I was like, so relatable
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to have a matriarch of the family that you're
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slightly afraid of.
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DANI: I think it's maybe just something
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I didn't grow up with. I think my parents were
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very much like...
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KARA: I think you have a nice grandma
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or grandmas. I think because my grandmother's
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an immigrant, I think the immigrant grandma experiences
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that they're the matriarch of the family because
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they fled their country to come here.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: We're all
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slightly afraid of them, they're quite stoic
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and have always been stoic. It's very hard to
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receive love from them and to learn anything
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about them.
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DANI: So are you actually afraid of her?
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KARA: I'm not afraid of her, but I do expect remarks
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to happen. Like when they say with Grandma Bonnie,
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like expect her to say something out of pocket
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or something inappropriate because that's who
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she is. That's something I also expect sometimes.
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DANI: Okay. And does that bother you?
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KARA: It depends.
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DANI: Yeah,
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I guess it depends on what it is she says.
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KARA: Yeah,
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I mean, yeah. When I told her I was gay, she
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cried, you know?
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DANI: Oh, tears of joy?
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KARA: No. LAUGHS.
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DANI: Well.
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I'm sorry.
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KARA: It's fine. But I took that personally
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at the time, I think because I was 20 or 21 when
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that happened. But now I'm like, here's my wife,
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whatever.
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DANI: I guess they're 16. They probably really
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care.
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KARA: I think when I was 16, I cared a lot about
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what my family thought of me and my extended
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family.
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DANI: I think because everyone in my family
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already thought my parents were weird for homeschooling
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us.
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KARA: Right.
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DANI: Like they're already judging us. So
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you can do whatever the fuck you want. So I think
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they always raised us like, it actually doesn't
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matter what they think.
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KARA: Okay.
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DANI: It matters what
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you think. Anyway, I just found it. I was struggling
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this episode to watch, but I know it is also
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a cultural thing.
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KARA: Yeah. Oh, and from this scene,
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we also learned that Grandma was a silent investor
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in John's car wash business.
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DANI: Yes.
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KARA: Which is going
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to come up later.
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DANI: So it's very clear John hates
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Kathryn's mom.
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KARA: Yes. Yeah. It is strange why
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it happened because he made millions from being
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a baseball player.
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DANI: Yeah he explicitly says we
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did not need her money like.
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KARA: But she wanted to
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get involved in some way and this is how they
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could help her get involved.
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DANI: That is so crazy
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I would never do that.
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KARA: Why get your family involved
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in the business?
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DANI: That seems like something Kathryn
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talked John into. And I'm so curious as to how
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she talked him into it.
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KARA: Silent invest is funny
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because she has so many ideas.
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DANI: Yeah, she has
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a lot to say.
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KARA: Yeah. Exterior driveway. Bay comes
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up to Daphne and says, have you heard anything
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from Angelo? And Daphne's like, no, girl. And
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don't expect an answer.
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DANI: Yeah, but she does say,
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for the record, I'm not happy that he's gone.
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KARA: Yeah, she is sympathizing with Bay.
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DANI: And she says,
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don't expect an answer, but kind of in a way
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of like, I sat by the phone as a child waiting
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for him to come back.
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KARA: Yes.
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DANI: And I don't want you
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to do the same. So things seem good between them.
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DANI: Also, Daphne looks gorgeous in her blue cardigan.
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KARA: Yes.
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DANI: Finally.
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KARA: The only good outfit here. Some
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color.
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DANI: Well, I thought Bay looked cute, but I
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was confused because she's wearing like a button
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down blousey situation.
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KARA: Okay.
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DANI: And then a jean
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miniskirt.
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KARA: You know I didn't even clock that.
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DANI: And
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then tights and like high boots. But then her
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Buckner vest. So I've put notes throughout the
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episode because we're at Buckner like a fair
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amount this episode. And every time I'm starting
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to notice, I don't know if they changed this
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in the show. I feel like Bay used to rock like
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a full traditional private school uniform.
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KARA: And
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now it's just, like, the hint.
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DANI: And now it's,
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like, a piece of clothing with the crest sewn
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in, and the clothing can be, like, anything.
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KARA: Anything.
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DANI: Because Toby also is in, like, a brightly
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colored checkered button -down and then has,
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like, a Buckner blazer over that and then
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jeans, so I'm like what is this just like you
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have to rep the school and that's the uniform?
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KARA: Maybe they have an extensive line of Buckner
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clothing.
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DANI: Maybe and they all have to purchase
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multiple things because yeah Simone later also
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is wearing like a regular t -shirt and then a
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Buckner hoodie.
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KARA: Yeah Buckner has so many clothes.
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DANI: I mean I remember the thrill in college, did you
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own a lot of merch for your college?
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KARA: I owned A sweater
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that I still have and one or two t -shirts.
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DANI: I
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remember being like, I will be hitting the student
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store. I will be getting some merch. I was big
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on the merch.
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KARA: Yep, I get it.
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DANI: Maybe because I
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didn't, I don't root for any sports teams and
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I didn't back then. So I was like stoked to have.
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KARA: It's also that preppy girl look.
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DANI: Yes, exactly.
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Totally. Well, I didn't go to as prestigious
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a college as you, so it was cooler for you to
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rep it than it was mine.
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KARA: Okay, you still went
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to college.
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DANI: Yeah, I just mean like. It wasn't
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that New England -y type prep.
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KARA: That's true. I
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did not go to Harvard, guys.
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DANI: But almost.
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KARA: Not
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even close. Okay, what else happens? Oh, yeah.
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Toby comes up in the driveway and he says, Hey,
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Daphne, I'm going to pick up Grandma from the
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airport soon. Just a heads up. She might say
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something stupid about you being deaf. And Daphne's
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like, that's fine. Story of my life.
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DANI: I really
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liked that Toby was looking out.
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: No one
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else said anything. And he was very frank about
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it.
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KARA: I would love a heads up.
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DANI: He was just like,
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she's going to be stupid.
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KARA: I would love a heads
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up if someone is going to say something stupid
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about my hearing aids.
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DANI: He wasn't delicate about
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it. I really appreciated that.
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KARA: Yeah. So thank
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you, Toby. And then Bay is in her bedroom putting
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on her lace -up shoes that go all the way up
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to her knee when in walks Kathryn. And Bay
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apparently has been chosen to paint a mural at
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Buckner. But she hasn't shared with Kathryn.
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KARA: She was planning on telling the family at that
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dinner with Angelo, but then he got deported.
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So plans went awry.
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DANI: So the mural's a bit tainted
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for her now.
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KARA: It is. But Grandma Bonnie has arrived.
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KARA: Hi, Grandma Bonnie. Played by Meredith Baxter,
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who's in the show Family Ties, which I've never
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seen. But she's a lesbian in real life.
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DANI: Oh, shout
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out.
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KARA: Yay. Go gays. And she usually calls Bay
11:19
Cookie as a term of endearment.
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DANI: This was crazy.
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KARA: She goes up to Bay and says, hi, Cookie. Or should
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I say empanada?
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DANI: Empanada.
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KARA: Bay's first microaggression,
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guys.
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BOTH: Aww.
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DANI: God.
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KARA: Crazy.
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DANI: Yeah. Sets the tone right
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away.
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KARA: Immediately. Bay is like, I guess. Okay.
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But then Daphne comes in the room and Bonnie
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is immediately smitten. And does not say anything
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stupid about her hearing aids. She's very nice
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about it.
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DANI: She says my friend Lucille has the
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same ones.
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KARA: Yeah. And you rock. I love you.
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Obsessed with you.
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DANI: I feel bad for Bay, although
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I feel like Bay is having mixed emotions watching
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this exchange. But I do feel that with how absentee
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Adrianna has been in Daphne's life lately, it
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is quite nice for Daphne to be like, oh, cool.
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I have like this nice random grandma.
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: Bonus
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grandma.
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KARA: That is true. And she also was lucky
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that she didn't get to hear the empanada comment.
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DANI: So true. Yeah, she misses several stupid things
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that Bonnie says.
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KARA: Yeah, she's going to miss a
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lot of microaggressions. It's time to give out
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gifts. Very grandma thing to do. She gives gifts
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out to Daphne, Bay, and Toby, and Toby gets a
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poker set. Oops. I think it's also reflective
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of Kathryn's relationship with Bonnie because
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Bonnie did not know that he has an issue. But
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John basically rips the poker set out of his
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hand. He's like, no. Bay gets a Latin American
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art book, which is nice considering that she
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does like art, but a little on the nose.
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DANI: Little
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on the nose. She thinks it's perfect, though.
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KARA: Yeah, because she is doing the mural. And she
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was like, great, this is going to be perfect
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inspiration. By the way, Grandma, I'm doing a
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mural for the school. And Grandma could not give
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a flying fuck.
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DANI: Well, OK, so she hands out presents.
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And Toby and Bay, she hands out like wrapped
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presents, which is very sweet. My grandparents
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weren't really bring presents type of people.
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KARA: I also lived close to my grandparents.
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DANI: Yeah anyway
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they're unwrapping presents. They do it the same
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way that Paolo's family does it where everyone
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like unwraps at the same time.
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KARA: Oh.
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DANI: Which really
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throws me off because my family is a.
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KARA: You do one at a time.
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DANI: You place it, you all watch the person open the
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present.
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KARA: I hate that.
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DANI: I now that I've experienced
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it differently also kind of hate that because
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I don't like all the attention on me and the
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pressure. But it is, it is also, like, overwhelming.
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KARA: With the sound of the paper unraveling.
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DANI: Daphne
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is clearly a wait and go around the table and
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everyone open their own presents type of person.
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KARA: Right.
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DANI: So she's still waiting with her box.
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KARA: Yeah,
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she doesn't get a wrapped gift. She gets a box.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: And Bonnie's like, please open. And Daphne
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opens it, and it's a cameo. Like a little brooch.
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DANI: Yeah, it's a brooch, yeah.
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KARA: Yeah. And apparently
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it's a family heirloom. It belonged to Bonnie's
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grandmother or great -grandmother, something
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like that. And we can tell immediately from the
14:11
body language that this was going to be meant
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for Bay.
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DANI: Mm -hmm.
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KARA: Everyone is uncomfortable.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Not good.
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DANI: Even Daphne.
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KARA: This is a poor Bay
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episode.
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DANI: It really is.
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KARA: Yeah. Daphne's like, oh,
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I just met you two minutes ago. Thank you for
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this.
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DANI: Family heirloom.
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KARA: Yeah. Also, so many remarks
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on Mexico in this episode when Bay is a quarter
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Puerto Rican.
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DANI: I know.
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KARA: So Bay says, I want to
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do like a Latin American inspired mural. And
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then Toby makes a weird racist comment like,
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you should do the mascot, the bulldog wearing
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the sombrero.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: That's not Puerto Rico, guys.
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And then later on, when Regina gives Bay a
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drink and says oh it's Mexican, and Bay's like
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oh I should have known that. Why would you have
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to know that?
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DANI: It's Mexican style and Bay's like probably
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should have known that but Regina is like well
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I didn't fucking know that because I'm not Mexican.
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: Until I was living in a Mexican neighborhood.
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KARA: Yeah, it's just a lot of references to Mexico
15:09
specifically.
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DANI: Do we think that in 2012 they were
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like these ABC Family viewers do not know the
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difference so it's not going to matter.
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KARA: Maybe
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but I also worry that the writers didn't know
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the difference.
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DANI: They probably didn't.
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KARA: Great. Cool.
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Okay, well, we're at Buckner now. Toby is working
15:25
on his solo music. And it sounds like he gave
15:28
Simone, like, a CD of his tunes. And she's coming
15:32
back to critique them harshly.
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DANI: Very harshly.
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KARA: Yeah, she says, it sounds too much like Guitar
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Face. This is not new. This is not fresh.
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DANI: I thought
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she liked Guitar Face.
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KARA: This is a complete 180
15:43
from the last episode. When she was like, I love
15:46
your band. I've been to every concert.
15:46
DANI: She said,
15:48
when you play, you're magic.
15:48
KARA: Yeah.
15:48
DANI: Where's that
15:51
now?
15:51
KARA: I don't know. Okay, now we're at the Buckner
15:54
locker room. Did you see what Daphne was wearing?
15:57
DANI: Something purple.
15:57
KARA: Yes. So she's wearing, there's
16:01
a lot of orange and gray on her. The costume
16:03
department loves to put orange and gray on her.
16:05
KARA: An orange and gray striped three -quarter sleeve
16:07
shirt, and then a cropped purple cardigan over
16:11
that.
16:11
DANI: Ugh.
16:11
KARA: And then the sleeves are rolled up
16:13
on the purple cardigan, so you can see. The orange
16:16
and gray quarter sleeve is poking out.
16:16
DANI: And you know
16:19
she wore that to school at Carlton too. That's
16:22
not just like her ugly workout outfit.
16:22
KARA: Someone
16:24
save her from the orange and gray. An old friend
16:26
from East Riverside's there. Her name is Monica.
16:29
And she's coming from East Riverside because
16:32
the school lets them use the track. White guilt.
16:35
DANI: Yeah.
16:35
KARA: It sounds like they used to play basketball
16:37
as kids from their conversation. And then Simone
16:41
approaches the two of them chatting. And she's
16:43
like, guys, my watch is missing. Like, pretty
16:46
much alerts the entire locker room. My watch
16:49
is missing.
16:49
DANI: Yeah.
16:49
KARA: And looks right at Monica,
16:51
implying that Monica stole the watch from the
16:54
locker.
16:54
DANI: This was so uncomfortable. Like, I hate
16:57
Simone so much this episode.
16:57
KARA: Yeah, I wrote in
16:59
my notes, Simone is being a racist bitch.
16:59
DANI: Yeah,
17:02
she picks a fight immediately.
17:02
KARA: And Monica rightfully
17:05
is like well, I'm going to fight back. And
17:07
I wanted so bad for her to just clock her in
17:10
the nose.
17:10
DANI: I mean, she gets a pretty good shove
17:12
in at least.
17:12
KARA: Yeah, she shoves her against the
17:14
wall. They're fighting. And Daphne breaks up
17:17
the altercation just when the Buckner basketball
17:21
coach walks in.
17:21
DANI: Is he allowed to be in that locker
17:23
room?
17:23
KARA: I was thinking the exact same thing.
17:23
DANI: He
17:26
ran in there pretty fast. I don't know.
17:26
KARA: It's
17:28
a girl's locker room.
17:28
DANI: It's a girl's locker room.
17:30
KARA: If you hear something, tell someone else to go
17:32
in and check it out.
17:32
DANI: Also, like, did someone
17:34
snitch? I don't know. I think Daphne had it handled.
17:36
She'd gotten them separated.
17:36
KARA: He thinks she's
17:38
involved in the fight.
17:38
DANI: Yes.
17:38
KARA: Immediately.
17:38
DANI: Yeah.
17:41
DANI: He pulls her into the office, too, and is like,
17:43
I can't believe how racist you're being against
17:45
the people from East Riverside. It's actually
17:47
a great neighborhood. And you guys are going
17:49
to go there this weekend and volunteer so that
17:52
you can learn that. I understand he won't let
17:54
Daphne get a word in edgewise.
17:54
KARA: I just needed her
17:57
to say. I grew up in -
17:57
DANI: From there, fuckhead.
18:00
Also, he's still not playing her. Like, she has
18:03
so many reasons to fucking go off on this coach.
18:06
DANI: You wouldn't take this one?
18:06
KARA: Yeah, this one's
18:08
- this was crazy. Also, Simone was pissing me
18:11
off so much because she's sitting in the office
18:12
like, I did nothing wrong. All I did was just
18:14
accuse them of stealing.
18:14
DANI: Yeah, she said, I didn't
18:16
say she took my watch. I said, it's missing and
18:20
it has never been missing before today when she
18:23
got there. Like, it's so like, well, nothing's
18:25
ever been missing from my locker before.
18:25
KARA: Oh,
18:28
and he calls her, he calls her Kennish, but she
18:30
corrects him and says Vasquez.
18:30
DANI: It's Vasquez.
18:32
KARA: It's Vasquez.
18:32
DANI: I think that she's right here.
18:36
It's just I remember some of the shit that Daphne
18:38
pulls later.
18:38
KARA: I know what she's going to do later.
18:41
DANI: Which colors the way I view the way she's
18:44
behaving in this episode.
18:44
KARA: Okay. I think at this
18:47
point, though, this is fine.
18:47
DANI: Yes, I think that
18:50
this is fine, too. Yeah, that's her name. That's
18:52
the name she was raised with.
18:52
KARA: I also feel like
18:54
wouldn't everyone know that she was switched?
18:57
And that she came from East Riverside?
18:57
DANI: Well,
18:59
so she says something later and Simone says,
19:01
oh yeah, I read that article. I just thought
19:03
it said you came from Brookside or something.
19:05
KARA: Yeah, that's true.
19:05
DANI: And also Simone seems like
19:07
very shaken about the fact that Daphne's from
19:10
East Riverside. Like Simone is truly like an
19:12
evil racist bitch.
19:12
KARA: I know.
19:12
DANI: Because she's like,
19:15
yeah, I fucking hate it here. This place is terrible.
19:18
Aren't you glad you live in Mission Hills with
19:19
like classy people now?
19:19
KARA: Absolutely insane. But
19:22
before we do the community service, Kathryn,
19:25
Bay, and Bonnie go to the guest house. I guess
19:28
without warning? But they go to meet Regina and
19:31
Adrianna.
19:31
DANI: Yeah, maybe send a text.
19:31
KARA: Like, hey,
19:33
we're coming over. No, none of that. But anyways,
19:36
Bonnie greets Adrianna in like the one word in
19:39
Spanish that she knows.
19:39
DANI: And then pulls it back
19:42
to say, that's the only Spanish I know.
19:42
KARA: And Adrianna's
19:45
like, good news is I speak English.
19:45
DANI: Yeah.
19:45
KARA: And
19:48
then Kathryn is really trying to get Bonnie
19:50
to engage with Bay a little bit more. She's pointing
19:52
out Regina's art and saying, look, this is where
19:54
Bay's talent came from. Isn't this cool?
19:54
DANI: Right.
19:57
Yeah. I would hope you'd be curious to meet the
20:01
biological mother of your grandchild.
20:01
KARA: Well then
20:04
Bonnie's like well what about her father? What
20:07
did she get from her father? And then the room
20:09
goes silent. It's too soon. He just got deported
20:12
yesterday. We can't do this.
20:12
DANI: Kind of crazy that
20:14
Bonnie like doesn't know that. You know what I
20:16
mean? Like, she has no knowledge of Angelo. You
20:18
know Kathryn hasn't mentioned it to her.
20:18
KARA: No.
20:20
And then Kathryn's like, anyway, let's diffuse
20:22
this situation. And she shows Bonnie baby pictures
20:25
of Daphne. And this time it's real baby pictures
20:28
of Daphne instead of a model.
20:28
DANI: Those were very
20:30
cute.
20:30
KARA: And Bonnie agrees. She's like, this is
20:33
awesome. I want copies and copies of this. And
20:36
also I want pictures of her from her first baptism
20:39
and communion. Because I assume you guys are
20:41
Catholic. Because all Latinos are Catholic, I
20:43
guess.
20:43
DANI: I think I don't have enough religious
20:46
knowledge. I assumed it was racist, but I didn't
20:48
really know why.
20:48
KARA: It's racist.
20:48
DANI: Yeah.
20:48
KARA: It is quite
20:50
racist.
20:50
DANI: I was just like, oh, I don't know.
20:50
KARA: And
20:52
we also know from the second episode.
20:52
DANI: What are
20:55
the Kennishes? Not Catholic? What are they?
20:55
KARA: Remember
20:57
they prayed over dinner once?
20:57
DANI: Yeah.
20:57
KARA: I think they're
21:01
Christian of some sort.
21:01
DANI: Well, aren't Catholics
21:03
Christian?
21:03
KARA: Yes, but it's a different kind of
21:06
Christianity.
21:06
DANI: Yeah, but if you say they're Christian.
21:09
That's like a blanket statement. They could be
21:10
Catholic.
21:10
KARA: That's true.
21:10
DANI: I feel like John and Kathryn
21:13
Kennish could be Catholic.
21:13
KARA: I could see that for
21:15
them.
21:15
DANI: What's like the more, like, what would
21:18
they be? What's the more like country club, white
21:20
ass Christianity?
21:20
KARA: Protestant.
21:20
DANI: Oh, okay.
21:20
KARA: Yeah.
21:20
DANI: I don't know.
21:24
KARA: I just assumed they were like Protestant Christians
21:27
that go to church only on the holidays or something.
21:29
DANI: Right. And then what does Adrianna says like,
21:32
I am Catholic. Regina's reformed.
21:32
KARA: Recovering.
21:36
Because remember in the second episode, they
21:38
all pray over dinner and Regina's like, I don't
21:41
pray to God for salmon and asparagus.
21:41
DANI: Yeah.
21:41
KARA: So
21:43
we know that she's not religious. So. Okay, next
21:47
scene, Bay is in her art studio and she's looking
21:50
at the Latin American art book that Bonnie got
21:53
her. And she turns to the Two Fridas artwork page.
21:56
DANI: Yeah, that was crazy. I think this is the first
21:58
time we've seen the painting behind the episode
22:02
title in the episode.
22:02
KARA: I know. I was like, this
22:05
is awesome. It's like when you watch a movie
22:06
and they say the title of the movie in the movie.
22:08
DANI: Love that moment.
22:08
KARA: I'm like, oh my god, there
22:10
it is. That's awesome. But then she's distracted
22:12
by Toby's jamming. And she goes in to tell him
22:16
to shut up, basically. And then he makes the
22:18
racist sombrero joke again. And she goes, so
22:22
it's not funny the second time.
22:22
DANI: And Toby said,
22:24
well, dad laughed. And she said, exactly.
22:24
KARA: And
22:27
then he is heeding Simone's advice about going
22:31
solo and Bay gives him a little warning that
22:34
Simone has the tendency to mold people in what
22:37
she wants them to be so. See what happens with
22:40
that.
22:40
DANI: Toby's a little defensive about it.
22:40
KARA: Yeah.
22:43
But he listens. Yeah he takes it.
22:43
DANI: He takes it. He
22:46
takes it under consideration.
22:46
KARA: Now we're at the car
22:49
wash and Bonnie's offering unsolicited car wash
22:52
ideas. I did like her recycled water idea.
22:52
DANI: I
22:55
liked it too, but then I thought it was so funny
22:58
that she was like, obviously I don't care about
22:59
recycling water, but we can get some of these
23:02
green heads.
23:02
KARA: These liberals.
23:02
DANI: Yeah, these liberals
23:05
will love the idea of it.
23:05
KARA: How would you recycle
23:08
water? A lot of the water just goes on the ground,
23:10
on the pavement.
23:10
DANI: Maybe like sourcing, sourcing
23:14
the water that they use to begin with from secondary
23:18
recycling sources.
23:18
KARA: Oh nice.
23:18
DANI: Like I don't know that
23:21
they themselves are recycling the water but the
23:24
water they're getting maybe is from?
23:24
KARA: It doesn't
23:26
matter because John does not care about her advice.
23:28
DANI: No he's not interested in her advice or her cruise
23:32
friend who did the mock -ups.
23:32
KARA: For the billboard
23:34
campaign. He said great thank you okay. Now it's
23:38
community service time.
23:38
DANI: Yes.
23:38
KARA: Simone and Daphne
23:41
are in East Riverside doing the community service.
23:43
They're painting over some graffiti.
23:43
DANI: Yeah, I
23:46
know that the show was just like, make them look
23:48
like they're doing stuff. But why are these Buckner
23:53
kids? They're in like a gravel lot next to a
23:56
house and they are planting flowers.
23:56
KARA: They're
24:00
planting flowers. They were cleaning up trash.
24:03
DANI: Right. The trash is gone. Like, that's what they
24:05
did is they cleaned up the trash. Fine, I guess.
24:07
Whatever. They're planting flowers, like, in
24:09
the middle of the gravel lot.
24:09
KARA: It looks like it's
24:12
supposed to be a community garden.
24:12
DANI: Right. But
24:14
it looks like initially that was maybe a parking
24:16
lot.
24:16
KARA: Yes.
24:16
DANI: Who has asked them to do this? Who
24:19
was like, you know what we should have?
24:19
KARA: They
24:22
said it's a school project and the coach just
24:24
invited them to go along as their punishment.
24:27
DANI: Yeah.
24:27
KARA: I don't know what kind of school project
24:29
this was. Maybe this was like an environmental
24:31
sciences school project where you have to go
24:33
plant things.
24:33
DANI: It just, I mean, unsurprising for
24:36
a private school to go into a underprivileged
24:40
community and do a project that would not actually
24:42
be helpful. But it doesn't seem like it's that
24:45
helpful.
24:45
KARA: No.
24:45
DANI: But yeah, Daphne and Simone are
24:49
painting over graffiti on the side of the house.
24:53
KARA: Yeah. And then this is when Daphne mentions to
24:55
Simone, like, I grew up here. That's why I know
24:57
all the shortcuts and where to go.
24:57
DANI: Kind of weird
25:00
that Daphne hasn't mentioned it before now.
25:00
KARA: Again,
25:03
she loses all semblance of her East Riverside
25:06
life the second she moves to Mission Hills.
25:06
DANI: Yeah.
25:09
KARA: So, yeah. Why would she?
25:09
DANI: Hey, the name's Vasquez.
25:12
KARA: Monica and her little posse come up. And they
25:15
come say hi, sort of. I think they're just like...
25:18
DANI: It seemed like Monica almost had good intentions
25:21
to say hi to Daphne. And then she saw that Simone
25:24
was there.
25:24
KARA: And then she saw Simone was there
25:25
and she was like, oh, this bitch again.
25:25
DANI: Yeah.
25:27
KARA: And then Simone is not helping because she says,
25:29
I want my watch back if you haven't pawned it
25:32
already.
25:32
DANI: Jesus Christ.
25:32
KARA: And again, this would
25:36
have been a great place for Monica to bury Simone
25:38
alive into one of those flower beds. But then
25:40
Daphne's like, okay, Simone. Go away. And then
25:44
she tries to rebond with Monica a little bit,
25:47
but Monica is not having it, which was interesting.
25:50
KARA: I don't think Monica was being very nice here.
25:52
She should know Daphne's character if they grew
25:55
up together.
25:55
DANI: It's unclear to me how much of a
25:57
relationship they really had.
25:57
KARA: It just seems like
26:00
they lived in the same neighborhood and knew
26:03
each other a little bit, but they didn't go to
26:04
the same school because Daphne always went to
26:06
Carlton.
26:06
DANI: Well, not always. The dark years.
26:06
KARA: Tea.
26:11
KARA: But yeah, we really don't know their relationship
26:14
and they never express that but she is making
26:18
the assumption basically that Daphne has changed
26:20
and is judging her and that her whole defense
26:23
is that just because she is from East Riverside,
26:25
people are going to be making assumptions about
26:27
her and her life but she's doing the same thing
26:29
to Daphne now.
26:29
DANI: She is but I don't know that they're
26:32
completely wrong.
26:32
KARA: But she's not wrong. But she
26:35
doesn't know that yet.
26:35
DANI: That's true.
26:35
KARA: Daphne hasn't
26:38
done anything except break up a fight and say
26:41
hi to Monica.
26:41
DANI: And also not come back to East
26:44
Riverside a single time since moving.
26:44
KARA: She doesn't
26:46
have any family there anymore.
26:46
DANI: I guess that's
26:48
also true.
26:48
KARA: Yeah. Adrianna and Regina are living
26:51
with her. And Emmett, I guess, doesn't live in
26:53
East Riverside.
26:53
DANI: No. But if they were already,
26:55
if they were friends, like, didn't Daphne have
26:57
other friends?
26:57
KARA: Apparently not.
26:57
DANI: Okay.
26:57
KARA: Yeah. No
27:01
one from Carlton lives in East Riverside, I guess.
27:03
Yeah. But this girl Monica says, like, you're
27:06
a Mission Hills girl now. And you never looked
27:08
like any Vasquez I knew.
27:08
DANI: Damn. That was a good
27:11
line.
27:11
KARA: That was a good line. Now we are back at
27:14
the Kennish house and Bonnie's being a grandma
27:15
because she's organizing her pills.
27:15
DANI: Oh.
27:15
KARA: Which
27:18
I really liked. Nice touch.
27:18
DANI: Everything about
27:21
her was overshadowed by all the crazy shit she's
27:24
about to say.
27:24
KARA: So Kathryn's like, hey mom, so
27:28
why'd you give the cameo to Daphne?
27:28
DANI: Can I say
27:31
one thing? I do think that Bay would never wear
27:34
it, respectfully.
27:34
KARA: I think she would.
27:34
DANI: You think
27:37
it's her style?
27:37
KARA: She can turn it into a necklace
27:39
or something cool.
27:39
DANI: I guess so. Okay. Like, I
27:42
still think it should go to her out of principle.
27:45
KARA: I don't think Daphne would wear it. I think Bay's
27:48
more likely to wear it than Daphne.
27:48
DANI: You know
27:50
what? Maybe you're right.
27:50
KARA: Thank you.
27:50
DANI: Okay.
27:50
KARA: So
27:52
she says to Bonnie, why'd you give Daphne the
27:55
cameo and not Bay? And Bonnie goes into this
27:58
spiel about, well, it's for family. And family
28:02
is basically who you are related to by blood.
28:05
So therefore, the cameo should go to Daphne.
28:08
And biology tells us who we are. She goes even
28:12
deeper. And she's like, Daphne is so much better
28:16
at math. It just makes more sense for her to
28:18
be part of the family. And Bay is different.
28:20
And don't you see her as different now? Because
28:22
you found out she's not blood related to you.
28:25
And then she confesses that, like, now that she
28:28
knows Bay is not biologically related to her,
28:30
she sees her as someone different. And poor
28:32
Bay is hearing this whole conversation. Kathryn,
28:35
thank God, is defending her.
28:35
DANI: Yeah.
28:35
KARA: She is standing
28:39
up to her mom. She's like, no. And I think the
28:42
whole theme of this episode is that family is
28:45
not just who you're biologically related to.
28:47
DANI: No, and also your DNA does not determine who
28:50
you are.
28:50
KARA: Yeah, Bonnie's giving a little eugenics.
28:53
KARA: It was crazy.
28:53
DANI: Yeah, like...
28:53
KARA: She was giving like
28:56
all these weird racist references too. Like the
28:59
family that adopted a Korean kid.
28:59
DANI: Yeah. And she's
29:03
like, and he was a merit scholar. They don't
29:05
even know what a merit scholar is.
29:05
KARA: Implying that
29:08
all Korean kids are just inherently good at math.
29:11
DANI: Yeah.
29:11
KARA: It was so odd. And Kathryn is like beside
29:14
herself. She's so confused and so upset.
29:14
DANI: I think
29:18
that she does say like, I didn't see Bay differently
29:20
in the slightest. And I understand what she's
29:24
saying. But I think it's okay for her to be like,
29:26
well, now I see more of Bay. It's not different.
29:29
DANI: It's more. Now I can understand. It's true. She's
29:33
artistically talented, and she didn't fucking
29:35
get that from us. There's more answers to her
29:39
roots, but that should be an expansive thing.
29:42
DANI: It shouldn't be like, we'll take her out of this
29:43
box.
29:43
KARA: Yeah, so we're going to pick her up and
29:45
put her somewhere else.
29:45
DANI: Yeah, I think this was
29:47
a good episode for 2012. Maybe not ahead of its
29:51
time, but definitely pushing forward for ABC
29:54
Family.
29:54
KARA: Yeah. Well, apparently when Bonnie comes
29:57
to Mission Hills, they do this tradition where
30:00
they dress in really stupid clothes and go for
30:02
tea.
30:02
DANI: I like Daphne's dress.
30:02
KARA: Did you like the
30:04
hat?
30:04
DANI: No, I fucking hated the hat. Also, then
30:07
Bay later at tea is wearing a hat that I like.
30:11
I think it's cute. But it would go with Daphne's
30:14
dress way better.
30:14
KARA: Yeah, she's wearing a bright
30:17
red hat.
30:17
DANI: Yeah, I think it's cute. I like the
30:19
hat. I don't like it for... Like none of them
30:22
are wearing the right hats for a tea like that.
30:25
KARA: They look like they're going to the Kentucky
30:26
Derby.
30:26
DANI: But the thing is, is that they don't because
30:29
those hats would be more acceptable. They're
30:31
wearing like a hat you walk around in the cold
30:34
winter in. They're wearing like cozy protect
30:37
my hair hats, like wool hats. Yeah.
30:37
KARA: Yeah.
30:37
DANI: Like
30:41
1950s walking around in New York hats, not like,
30:45
garden party hats, which I think is what they're
30:47
going for.
30:47
KARA: The costume department really messed
30:50
up.
30:50
DANI: But also, they're the only ones. They do
30:53
not have to be doing this. They're the only ones
30:55
at tea that dress up. If you're going to do it,
30:57
at least go for it.
30:57
KARA: And do it right.
30:57
DANI: Do it right.
31:00
KARA: Well, Kathryn and Daphne are dressing up for
31:02
tea. They're wearing very nice dresses. They're
31:04
putting on the silly hats.
31:04
DANI: Yeah, I like Daphne
31:06
in red. I thought she looked nice.
31:06
KARA: Daphne does
31:08
look nice in red. Not orange. No. Red. And Daphne's
31:12
wearing the cameo as a necklace. It's cute.
31:12
DANI: You're
31:14
right. I see it. It would look better on Bay.
31:16
KARA: Yeah. Thank you. And then Daphne's like, where's
31:18
Bay? And Kathryn goes, shit, where is Bay?
31:21
KARA: And understandably, Bay's like, I'm not going
31:24
in this thing. I'm going to work on my mural
31:25
at Buckner.
31:25
DANI: Yeah.
31:25
KARA: She's at the school, covered
31:28
in paint, painting away. And Kathryn comes
31:31
storming in in her dress and high heels. And
31:33
is like, get your ass up.
31:33
DANI: Yeah, she's being so
31:36
mean.
31:36
KARA: Yells at her. This is the first time she
31:39
raises her voice at her.
31:39
DANI: I think it's just the
31:42
stress of her mom being there. But like, Kathryn,
31:44
don't let your evil bitch mom make you evil.
31:47
KARA: I know. So yeah, Bay is now at this tea thing
31:51
against her will. Let's just go to tea time.
31:53
DANI: Let's just go to tea time.
31:53
KARA: The four of them are
31:55
sitting down and Bonnie decides to remark on
31:57
how brave Daphne is for growing up in East Riverside
32:00
and that -
32:00
DANI: She won't let it go.
32:00
KARA: Won't let it
32:03
go. In that dangerous environment. And Bay calls
32:06
it out immediately. She's like, oh, is it because
32:09
that environment was filled with non -white people
32:11
like me?
32:11
DANI: Good for her.
32:11
KARA: I know. And then immediately
32:13
storms out.
32:13
DANI: I feel, Bay, that you could have
32:16
saved yourself a lot of time by just telling
32:17
Kathryn that you heard what your grandma said.
32:20
DANI: Like, when she stormed in at Buckner, you could
32:22
have just said - No, I'm not going because I
32:25
heard that grandma's fucking racist and a shithead.
32:27
KARA: Yeah.
32:27
DANI: And you can tell her that. And I feel like
32:31
Kathryn would have been like, okay.
32:31
KARA: I agree.
32:33
But instead, Bay storms out of the tea thing
32:36
and then tells Kathryn she heard about the
32:38
conversation.
32:38
DANI: And then takes a cab back to Buckner.
32:41
KARA: Yeah.
32:41
DANI: To finish her art. Anyway, back at the
32:45
guest house, Regina is on the phone. She's selling
32:49
all of the stuff for the salon.
32:49
KARA: Yeah, the salon
32:52
is officially gone.
32:52
DANI: Dude, let's talk about this
32:54
first.
32:54
KARA: I'm so confused.
32:54
DANI: She couldn't. She wasn't
32:57
allowed to get out of the lease when she called
32:59
about it. They already bought all the stuff for
33:02
the salon. Angelo already gave her all that money.
33:05
KARA: Yes.
33:05
DANI: I feel like the logical thing to do here
33:07
is just to continue on, especially after Angelo
33:10
was like, I don't want you to stop doing the
33:13
salon.
33:13
KARA: Because of me.
33:13
DANI: Because of me. The thing
33:16
to do would be to carry on and do the salon.
33:19
You already have everything you need. Angelo
33:20
got you all the stuff you need.
33:20
KARA: But instead,
33:23
she calls the equipment vendors and sells everything.
33:26
DANI: At a loss.
33:26
KARA: At a loss.
33:26
DANI: So she's not even getting
33:29
all that money back.
33:29
KARA: And what's going to happen
33:31
with the space? Did she get out of the lease?
33:31
DANI: Right?
33:34
DANI: Like, I'm pretty sure no. So now she's just going
33:37
to have an empty storefront. She's not being
33:39
logical here. I know that's the point. But it's
33:41
making me so mad.
33:41
KARA: It's insane. And then Adrianna's
33:45
like, well, I was just trying to help.
33:45
DANI: I was
33:47
just trying to help.
33:47
KARA: Yeah. Basically, Regina's
33:50
like, I lost the salon and it's all your fault.
33:52
And Adrianna's like, so it wasn't my fault and
33:54
I was trying to help. All right.
33:54
DANI: I think she
33:57
maybe could have not called immigration.
33:57
KARA: Yeah.
33:59
KARA: I think my hot take is don't call ICE. Okay.
34:02
Bay is back at Buckner now after the tea time
34:05
fight and she's working on the mural and then decides
34:08
to throw white paint over it.
34:08
DANI: She's like, she's
34:11
angry. She's like, this isn't good enough, whatever.
34:15
Throws white paint all over it. Can I say? I
34:18
thought it was ugly.
34:18
KARA: You thought the mural was
34:20
ugly?
34:20
DANI: The mural was pretty ugly. I think that
34:22
throwing the white paint over it was a good call.
34:25
KARA: I think it looked fun with the white paint over
34:27
it. Very Pollock -esque.
34:27
DANI: Yeah, it was an improvement
34:31
for sure.
34:31
KARA: There was one point where I was like,
34:32
stop, it looks good.
34:32
DANI: Yeah, leave it there. Yeah,
34:35
didn't love it.
34:35
KARA: Yeah. That's okay. She'll fix
34:39
it up later.
34:39
DANI: But it is a great scene of her angrily
34:41
throwing the paint.
34:41
KARA: Yeah, I was proud of her.
34:43
KARA: Toby is performing his new music that he wrote,
34:47
performing it for Simone.
34:47
DANI: Yeah, wellness check.
34:49
Were you okay watching this after being like,
34:51
I was cringed out the last episode? Because this
34:53
cringed me out.
34:53
KARA: I think this was better because
34:56
he was singing to Simone instead of alone outside.
35:00
DANI: No, I thought it was so much worse. I feel like
35:02
it's so awkward when it just pans to just her
35:04
sitting.
35:04
KARA: And, like, grinning.
35:04
DANI: Oh, yeah.
35:04
KARA: Anyway,
35:09
she's thrilled. She loves whatever this song
35:11
is.
35:11
DANI: I didn't think it was that good.
35:11
KARA: Yeah, it
35:14
has some lyric about, put your hand in my winter
35:16
coat to keep warm. I don't know. But she's like,
35:20
amazing, love you. And then she's like, by the
35:22
way, got you a gig at this fashion event. But
35:26
we need to work on your look.
35:26
DANI: She's like, I'm
35:28
going to take you shopping. And he's like, okay,
35:30
let's stop there.
35:30
KARA: Pause, I don't want to shop.
35:32
And he goes. I feel like you're trying to mold
35:35
me into something that you want me to be. Basically
35:38
parroting Bay's words. And Simone catches on
35:41
immediately and goes, wow, that sounds really
35:43
familiar. It sounds like something Bay told me
35:46
when we had our friend breakup. And she storms
35:48
out.
35:48
DANI: When do we find out what the heck happened
35:50
with Bay and Simone?
35:50
KARA: I have no idea. Next episode,
35:53
I hope.
35:53
DANI: I hope so. Because I can't remember.
35:56
KARA: Me neither. I don't remember the friend breakup.
35:58
DANI: I really want to know.
35:58
KARA: Me neither.
35:58
DANI: Obviously,
36:00
Bay was in the right because Simone is an evil
36:03
crazy person.
36:03
KARA: And racist.
36:03
DANI: And yeah.
36:03
KARA: And dines and
36:07
dashes.
36:07
DANI: And dines and dashes and makes fun of
36:10
people with colostomy bags. So.
36:10
KARA: Canceled.
36:10
DANI: Hate her.
36:14
DANI: I'm sad for Toby that he likes her.
36:14
KARA: I know he
36:16
doesn't know any of these things though which
36:18
is so unfortunate.
36:18
DANI: I, I guess I'm not an older
36:21
brother so I wouldn't know but I do feel that
36:23
if I was like, hey to my older brother, like don't
36:26
date this girl because I guess Bay doesn't tell
36:29
him not to date her but like. I also don't think
36:31
they know.
36:31
KARA: I don't think they know yet.
36:31
DANI: That he's
36:34
dating her? He says to Bay, I'm dating her. That's
36:37
when she's like, just be careful.
36:37
KARA: Oh, you're
36:39
right. You're right.
36:39
DANI: But I feel like, imagine
36:42
I'm single and I start dating BLEEP. You know what
36:46
I mean? And you'd be like, hey, that's like kind
36:49
of like, I know those are different relationships,
36:51
but that's kind of weird.
36:51
KARA: Yeah.
36:51
DANI: I feel like I
36:54
would never do that.
36:54
KARA: Yeah, you're right. So.
36:57
KARA: Toby, you couldn't get any other girl?
36:57
DANI: I know,
36:59
he's a cutie.
36:59
KARA: He is.
36:59
DANI: Maybe in Wilke's shadow.
37:03
Maybe he doesn't, well, I was going to say he
37:05
doesn't want Wilke's leftovers, but Simone did
37:07
date Wilke.
37:07
KARA: Yeah.
37:07
DANI: Yeah, maybe he's just having
37:09
a hard time shining.
37:09
KARA: Maybe.
37:09
DANI: He deserves more.
37:13
KARA: Now we're in East Riverside and Monica and some
37:15
of the other locals are playing some pickup basketball.
37:18
DANI: Wait, we should call out the fact that Simone
37:20
breaks up with him.
37:20
KARA: Does she break up with him?
37:22
DANI: Yes.
37:22
KARA: Oh, she goes, we're done. That's right.
37:24
DANI: She says, he's like, I don't want you to like
37:28
be in charge of my career. And she says, well,
37:30
I think you're going to have to find someone
37:32
to be your new manager and your new girlfriend
37:35
then because I quit.
37:35
KARA: Oh, I didn't hear that line.
37:37
DANI: Yeah. And she, she storms out.
37:37
KARA: So much storming
37:41
out in the show.
37:41
DANI: Yeah, it's a really stormy episode.
37:44
KARA: Now we're in East Riverside.
37:44
DANI: Yeah.
37:44
KARA And Monica
37:47
and the other East Riverside locals are playing
37:50
pickup basketball. And Daphne approaches and
37:52
says, hey, can I play?
37:52
DANI: She looks lame walking
37:55
up. Sorry, I'm a hater.
37:55
KARA: She's got her hands in
37:58
her pocket and her head down like, hi, can I
38:00
play?
38:00
DANI: Yeah, she looks like the Debbie Ryan.
38:00
KARA: I
38:03
know. She looks exactly like that. And Monica is
38:06
like, no.
38:06
DANI: Yeah, she says, fuck you. This isn't
38:09
The Wizard of Oz. You can't go home again. Ouch.
38:12
DANI: Also love the concept of Midnight Madness basketball.
38:16
KARA: It's just five girls playing basketball.
38:16
DANI: Yeah.
38:18
It's cute.
38:18
KARA: It is cute.
38:18
DANI: Daphne needs friends.
38:21
KARA: She does.
38:21
DANI: She just came because she's lonely.
38:25
KARA: Yeah. And Simone's a bitch.
38:25
DANI: Yeah.
38:25
KARA: Yeah. I know.
38:29
DANI: That's like her only friend right now.
38:29
KARA: I know.
38:31
DANI: Because Emmett is not in this episode at all.
38:33
KARA: Emmett, Wilke, and Angelo are not in this episode.
38:36
DANI: They said, get those male leads out of here.
38:38
KARA: Literally.
38:38
DANI: Or male guest stars.
38:38
KARA: Everyone except
38:40
John.
38:40
DANI: Side characters. This is a John Kennish
38:42
episode.
38:42
KARA: Everyone except John and Toby. Yeah.
38:45
All right. Now we're back at the Kennish house
38:47
and Kathryn approaches Bonnie. They're in the
38:50
kitchen again. And Kathryn is approaching Bonnie
38:53
pretty much about the same conversation they
38:55
had the day prior about biology and family.
38:59
KARA: And Bonnie doubles down.
38:59
DANI: Yeah. Kathryn gives
39:02
her so many chances.
39:02
KARA: I know. But Bonnie doubles
39:05
down and says, but you carried Daphne and Regina
39:09
carried Bay, doesn't that account for something?
39:11
You guys share the same DNA and that's why I
39:15
view Bay differently, obviously.
39:15
DANI: Yeah. And Kathryn
39:17
drops the coldest line in this episode.
39:17
KARA: It was
39:19
awesome. She goes, well you carried me and we share
39:22
the same DNA but I couldn't feel less connected
39:25
to you.
39:25
DANI: What a killing. And this does upset Bonnie
39:29
very much.
39:29
KARA: Good.
39:29
DANI: Yeah, good.
39:29
KARA: And then Kathryn immediately
39:32
goes to the bedroom with John brushing his teeth,
39:34
confides in him, and then she goes, I may not be
39:38
biologically related to Bay, but I feel so much
39:40
closer to her.
39:40
DANI: Yeah.
39:40
KARA: Which makes sense because
39:42
they raised her for 16 years.
39:42
DANI: Yeah. She says
39:45
sometimes Daphne feels like a stranger, which
39:47
Kathryn doesn't express very often. So it was
39:49
nice to see behind the curtain.
39:49
KARA: And I could see
39:52
that. I think I could see that when they were
39:53
getting ready for tea.
39:53
DANI: Yeah, totally.
39:53
KARA: Like, they
39:56
just weren't in sync.
39:56
DANI: Yeah. And then John, he's
40:00
so sexy in this scene, I think. He's so take
40:03
charge. He's like, so fuck your mom. I'm buying
40:06
her out of the car dealership.
40:06
KARA: Yeah. He's like,
40:09
if he's going to treat our daughter like this,
40:10
we're buying her out.
40:10
DANI: Yeah. And Kathryn kind
40:12
of tries to get defensive. She's like, hey, she's
40:14
still my mother. And he goes, and Bay is my daughter.
40:17
And she will not be treated like that.
40:19
And like, that's the right call.
40:19
KARA: This was kind
40:22
of hot of him.
40:22
DANI: It was hot. And then Kathryn's
40:24
like, you know what? Let me give her the check.
40:26
KARA: Yeah. But before that, Kathryn's like, I used
40:29
to be racist.
40:29
DANI: LAUGHS - I forgot about that - LAUGHS. Oh, man.
40:29
KARA: She's
40:34
like, I'm not. Well, this is the first time now
40:36
that Bay is experiencing prejudice because of
40:39
her ethnicity.
40:39
DANI: Yes.
40:39
KARA: And I think Kathryn is
40:42
also witnessing this. And she's like, oh, shit,
40:44
I have also done this. And she's recalling an
40:47
experience she had where Felipe and his painters
40:50
came to paint the house. And she hid the silver
40:53
because she was.
40:53
DANI: She locked it up.
40:53
KARAA: She locked
40:56
up the silver. I guess she had some bias that
40:58
they were going to steal it. But then when the
41:00
white electrician came in, she didn't lock up
41:02
the silver. But then I think what John says
41:05
is, you are not as bad as your mom. Like, you
41:07
are not your mother. Like, you learn from these
41:10
things and you can change.
41:10
DANI: And I think the fact
41:13
that she's having those reflections now is evidence
41:16
of that.
41:16
KARA: And hugely different from Bonnie, because
41:19
Bonnie just five minutes ago doubled down and
41:22
was like, well, Bay's different and not white.
41:25
DANI: Yeah. I know. Kathryn's trying to be like,
41:27
how can I be a better ally to my quarter Puerto
41:30
Rican daughter?
41:30
KARA: Literally. But they're going
41:32
to buy Bonnie out of the car wash. That'll be fun.
41:34
KARA: After Bay throws white paint at her mural, she
41:37
comes to Regina in tears.
41:37
DANI: I know. She has streaks
41:41
down her face from the white paint in the tear
41:44
lines.
41:44
KARA: Love that. But Regina is being nice for
41:47
once. Invites her in.
41:47
DANI: Yes. This is a really great
41:50
Bay and Regina bonding. We don't get a lot of
41:53
these.
41:53
KARA: Rare. Rare sighting. Bay invites her in,
41:57
and they're drinking their hot chocolate, I think?
42:00
DANI: Yeah, it's hot chocolate with cinnamon sticks
42:02
in it.
42:02
KARA: Yeah, it's Mexican, guys.
42:02
DANI: It's Mexican
42:04
hot chocolate.
42:04
DANI: And that's really what sets Bay
42:06
off.
42:06
KARA: Yeah, she's like, well, I didn't know that.
42:09
And Regina is like, why would you? You grew up
42:12
here.
42:12
DANI: She's like, I didn't learn it until I went
42:15
to the cafe. Because we're not Mexican.
42:15
KARA: And also,
42:18
being Puerto Rican is a culture, and the way
42:20
you learn about culture is from living in it,
42:22
not just having it in your blood. And it's tough
42:25
because they've been there for months, and Bay
42:28
has not been taught a single thing about her
42:30
Puerto Rican heritage.
42:30
DANI: No, and it should be up
42:33
to Regina. Like, that's on Regina.
42:33
KARA: And Adrianna,
42:35
I would say, too.
42:35
DANI: I just am, like, counting Adrianna
42:38
out. Like, she does not seem invested in either
42:41
of these teen girls at this point.
42:41
KARA: I just think...
42:44
DANI: It would be up to her, but, like, I don't think
42:46
she's going to step up.
42:46
KARA: That's true. I was just
42:49
thinking, like, the only time Bay really tries
42:51
to connect with her Puerto Rican heritage is
42:53
Frida Kahlo, who she liked beforehand.
42:53
DANI: Yeah.
42:57
KARA: Because her bedroom is decorated with her quote.
42:59
And going to that authentic Mexican restaurant
43:01
with Ty.
43:01
DANI: With Ty.
43:01
KARA: That's kind of it. She learns
43:04
more about her heritage from Angelo, really.
43:08
DANI: Yeah.
43:08
KARA: Because they have that whole date at the
43:10
hotel where he explains where the family is from.
43:12
DANI: Where she says, like, I'm Arab? Cool.
43:12
KARA: Cool. And
43:16
we even know about Daphne's heritage and the
43:18
specific town where Kathryn's family is from.
43:21
KARA: But we know nothing about Bay's Puerto Rican
43:25
heritage, especially when Adrianna is there, who
43:28
was born and raised in Puerto Rico.
43:28
DANI: Yeah, you
43:31
would think.
43:31
KARA: We don't see family recipes.
43:31
DANI: No.
43:35
Well, Regina doesn't cook.
43:35
KARA: Adrianna?
43:35
DANI: We've never
43:38
seen her cook.
43:38
KARA: That's true.
43:38
DANI: Daphne carries that
43:42
household.
43:42
KARA: That's true. Maybe Daphne knows the
43:45
family recipes and can pass them on, I guess.
43:47
DANI: Maybe.
43:47
KARA: The meatless enchiladas, you know? But
43:50
like, Bay's so frustrated. But I was like, why
43:53
would you know? No one has helped you.
43:53
DANI: There's
43:56
just been so much drama about her dad.
43:56
KARA: Yeah.
43:59
DANI: And then also she's been learning sign language
44:02
for Emmett.
44:02
KARA: I know.
44:02
DANI: She's immersing herself in
44:04
different cultures that aren't what she is.
44:04
KARA: Yeah,
44:07
she's immersing herself in Deaf culture, which
44:08
is also rightfully important, considering that
44:10
her new sister and boyfriend are deaf, which
44:13
is great. Maybe learn a few Spanish phrases.
44:16
I don't know.
44:16
DANI: I know. She doesn't express any
44:18
interest in that.
44:18
KARA: She doesn't. And I don't think
44:21
that's something the show will ever go into.
44:24
DANI: Interesting.
44:24
KARA: Okay, Regina and Bay are chatting
44:27
over their Mexican-style hot chocolate. And
44:30
Regina's like, okay, you just found out you're
44:34
a quarter Puerto Rican. Like, here's the rule book,
44:36
basically. Bonnie is behaving the way she is
44:39
because she's doing this out of ignorance. She's
44:41
not doing it to be mean. And then she shares
44:43
a story, which I want to get into a little more.
44:46
KARA: She shares a story and says when Daphne got her
44:49
hearing aids and they were first starting to
44:50
sign, she would confront people who stared, but
44:53
then that never helped. But we know that Daphne
44:57
didn't start signing until she was eight. Did
44:59
she then get her hearing aids at the same time
45:02
when she was also eight? And was she just being
45:05
deaf in the dark years from ages three to eight?
45:08
DANI: Dude, yes. I think yes. I think that confirms
45:11
that.
45:11
KARA: That's fucking crazy.
45:11
DANI: I know. I also thought
45:13
that was crazy. We never get that information.
45:16
KARA: Yeah. Because from that sentence she shared,
45:19
hearing aids and sign happened at the same time.
45:22
DANI: Like, did she? Was she just like so stupidly
45:25
ignorant?
45:25
KARA: Like she's deaf, there's nothing we can
45:27
do.
45:27
DANI: This is why it's so hard, like she owes that
45:30
girl an apology.
45:30
KARA: Like she's having such a nice
45:33
time with Bay in the scene and in this entire
45:36
episode but then I'm like what the hell happened
45:39
with Daphne.
45:39
DANI: Literally.
45:39
KARA: It's so, it's so frustrating.
45:42
KARA: But we have to back away from it or else I'm
45:45
gonna get too mad. But Regina says you're gonna
45:48
experience racism again and you're gonna learn
45:50
how to handle it. I think I wish Regina offered
45:53
some advice on like how she would have handled
45:56
things instead of just being like you'll figure
45:58
it out.
45:58
DANI: She likes a hands-off approach.
45:58
KARA: Yeah, but
46:01
then Bay's like well thank you for that, thank
46:03
you for the hot chocolate. One more thing, can
46:05
you help me fix the mural? And Regina says yes.
46:08
And then they go and fix the mural.
46:08
DANI: Yeah and there's
46:11
a moment before they start where Bay has this
46:14
look on her face and Regina's like what is it?
46:16
Bay's like No one in my family has ever painted
46:18
with me before.
46:18
KARA: She is thrilled. It's kind of
46:21
beautiful.
46:21
DANI: It's really sweet.
46:21
KARA: And it sounds like
46:23
they spent the whole night doing this. Because
46:25
apparently the mural was due tomorrow, like a
46:27
project.
46:27
DANI: Like an assignment. We don't get to
46:30
see it in this episode, do we?
46:30
KARA: No. It's the next
46:32
morning at the Kennish house, and Daphne hands
46:35
the cameo back to Bonnie. She says, this is not
46:38
for me.
46:38
DANI: Yeah. She doesn't even say that, though.
46:40
She walks in, she goes, good morning, and she
46:43
just slides it wordlessly.
46:43
KARA: And walks away. That's
46:46
the end of that scene. Then, we're at some random
46:49
park, and Toby and Simone are there.
46:49
DANI: So random.
46:52
KARA: It looks like the country club, actually.
46:52
DANI: Maybe
46:53
it is. Okay. Anyway.
46:53
KARA: They are talking outside
46:57
this park, and he apologizes for calling her
47:01
out, I guess.
47:01
DANI: Which I don't think he should have.
47:04
KARA: Me neither.
47:04
DANI: And she's like, I can't believe you're
47:06
letting Bay get between us already. That's his
47:08
sister who you clearly fucked over. I think it's
47:12
okay for him to listen to her. Also, side note,
47:15
Simone is wearing.
47:15
KARA: Oh no.
47:15
DANI: She's wearing like
47:18
a sheer tan long sleeve, a denim vest, and then
47:25
a skinny bold pattern scarf.
47:25
KARA: Hate that.
47:25
DANI: I was
47:29
like, what temperature is it outside? The
47:32
scarf looks so unnecessary.
47:32
KARA: It's a statement
47:34
piece. But then Toby lays down the law. He lays
47:37
down some boundaries. He says, I can dress myself.
47:40
I've been doing it since I was three. And I can
47:42
do music myself. But I still want to be your
47:44
boyfriend.
47:44
DANI: Yeah. Just don't get involved in my
47:46
music and we'll be good.
47:46
KARA: And then she goes, I
47:50
can't dress you, but I can undress you.
47:50
DANI: Gross.
47:54
KARA: I know. I wrote ew.
47:54
DANI: I can't wait for them to
47:56
break up.
47:56
KARA: Me too. Then Regina arrives home from
48:00
the mural painting with Bay, and she sees that
48:02
Adrianna is moving out. I guess to just cool things
48:05
down, since she did literally call ICE.
48:05
DANI: Yeah,
48:09
it feels like that's the right move. But Regina's
48:11
pretty upset by this. She doesn't let her mom
48:13
see it.
48:13
KARA: Yeah, she's just like, oh, you're leaving.
48:16
DANI: Yeah, she's moving back to East Riverside.
48:16
KARA: In
48:19
with a friend. And this is the scene where Regina's
48:22
wearing her cropped purple cardigan.
48:22
DANI: Yes.
48:22
KARA: Anyway.
48:25
KARA: Now, this is an interesting scene because now
48:27
we're in Bay's room and Bonnie comes in and she
48:30
gives Bay the cameo. And then she explains Daphne
48:35
returned it because she feels like it belongs
48:37
to you, which does not feel like an apology.
48:40
KARA: She's like, well, I don't know what to do with
48:42
this. So here you go.
48:42
DANI: Well, she says, I agree.
48:44
And I agree with her. But yeah, I agree with
48:47
you too.
48:47
KARA: But she didn't even think about it until
48:49
Daphne gave it back.
48:49
DANI: Yeah, I know. Even after
48:53
Kathryn said what she said.
48:53
KARA: She's only doing
48:55
this because Daphne gave the cameo back and because
48:57
Kathryn yelled at her on like three separate
48:59
occasions. She's like, fine. But then later she
49:02
does say like, you know, this whole switch must
49:05
have been the hardest on you.
49:05
DANI: Bay gets emotional
49:07
about the brooch and then she asks Bonnie.
49:07
KARA: She
49:10
doesn't reach for it though.
49:10
DANI: No. She asks Bonnie,
49:14
do you really see me differently now? And Bonnie
49:17
says, well, don't you see yourself differently
49:18
now? And I think it's so fair for Bay to see
49:21
herself differently.
49:21
KARA: But I think Bonnie needs
49:24
to keep her mouth shut.
49:24
DANI: Yeah, I think Bonnie
49:25
needs to keep those feelings to herself if she
49:27
has them and maybe work through them.
49:27
KARA: Yeah. Because
49:30
Bonnie's not saying, I still love you and I still
49:34
see you as my granddaughter. She's like, well,
49:36
you are different.
49:36
DANI: Yeah. Yeah. Bonnie really
49:38
doesn't learn anything from this episode. There's
49:41
not a lot of growth.
49:41
KARA: She hands out the brooch
49:43
or the cameo to Bay. Bay just stares at her and
49:47
then Bonnie puts it on the table next to her
49:49
and walks away.
49:49
DANI: And is headed home.
49:49
KARA: Yeah. Let's
49:53
just wrap this up. So Bay politely says goodbye,
49:57
but that's kind of it. And then Kathryn hands
50:00
the check to Bonnie to buy her out of the car
50:03
wash. And she looks dejected. And that's it.
50:06
Bye, Bonnie.
50:06
DANI: Bye, both grandmas. Bye-bye to
50:09
both grandmas in this episode. Because then the
50:11
next scene is Adrianna moving. Daphne's driven
50:14
Adrianna to East Riverside.
50:14
KARA: And then timeline
50:16
check. Daphne says, we've been gone a few months.
50:19
DANI: This is not lining up with what we just talked
50:22
about. Okay, so then Cameron Bledsoe has been
50:26
living with that woman. Like moved in with that
50:28
woman after like six weeks, basically.
50:28
KARA: Yeah,
50:31
seems like it. Because Daphne's helping Adrianna
50:34
move in and back into East Riverside. She looks
50:36
around. She says, we've only been gone a few
50:38
months. The place looks worse. Well, like their
50:40
neighborhood looks worse.
50:40
DANI: She said, damn, it
50:42
looks bad here.
50:42
KARA: And Adrianna says, so it's the
50:45
same. You're just looking at things through Mission
50:48
Hills eyes now. And then Daphne goes, do you
50:51
think I changed? And then this was interesting
50:53
because Adrianna says, The only thing that's changed
50:55
is your zip code. You're still a Vasquez. But
50:58
I disagree.
50:58
DANI: Yeah.
50:58
KARA: Because she just said, you're
51:02
looking at this neighborhood through Mission
51:04
Hills eyes now. So I think she has changed.
51:07
DANI: Yeah, it's a little bit, yeah, contradictory.
51:10
I think there's no nice way for anyone to be
51:13
like, Daphne. You're kind of a white bitch now.
51:15
KARA: You're not Latina.
51:15
DANI: But you're not! Sorry, girl!
51:18
KARA: No, you're not. You're a Vasquez, but you're
51:20
not Latina. You were raised with the culture, that's
51:22
wonderful, but you're not Latina.
51:22
DANI: Yeah.
51:22
KARA: Ethnically.
51:25
DANI: Which should I say?
51:25
KARA: Say it.
51:25
DANI: Was she raised with
51:29
the culture? It doesn't feel...
51:29
KARA: She spoke like
51:32
one sentence of Spanish with Monica.
51:32
DANI: In the pilot
51:34
episode. Oh.
51:34
KARA: At the locker room with Monica.
51:37
She said, La Paloma del Barrio.
51:37
DANI: Okay. So she
51:41
made one joke.
51:41
KARA: She made one joke.
51:41
DANI: I know that
51:44
in the pilot episode, they really wanted to play
51:47
up, like, Daphne's from all these different worlds.
51:49
Like, look at her understanding Spanish and sign
51:53
language and English and blah, blah, blah. But
51:56
I feel like it's never come up again.
51:56
KARA: Yeah, Daphne,
51:59
not Daphne, Regina and Adrianna argue in Spanish
52:02
in this episode. But we don't really see if Daphne
52:06
can understand what they're saying.
52:06
DANI: No.
52:06
KARA: Or she
52:09
doesn't even interject in Spanish. She doesn't
52:11
say a word in Spanish. And this is probably because
52:13
the actor doesn't know Spanish.
52:13
DANI: Right. Well,
52:16
she learned sign language for this role. I think
52:19
they could have given her some lines in Spanish.
52:20
She could have been okay.
52:20
KARA: She could have said
52:22
stop.
52:22
DANI: I just don't feel like they've done a good
52:25
enough job showing us that Daphne really, the
52:30
fact that it's been a few months, she hasn't
52:32
been back a single time?
52:32
KARA: Yeah, I don't know.
52:34
DANI: Isn't East Riverside like 20 minutes from Mission
52:36
Hills?
52:36
KARA: It's the next town over.
52:36
DANI: Yeah.
52:36
KARA: Yeah. Because
52:39
Adrianna says, I'm not far. I'm only across town.
52:42
DANI: Yeah. I don't know. Like, again, it's colored
52:45
by how she's going to act in season two about
52:48
being a Latina woman.
52:48
KARA: Yes.
52:48
DANI: Which she feels very
52:50
strongly about.
52:50
KARA: But we just have no proof of
52:53
that right now.
52:53
DANI: Yeah. Or like ever. They don't
52:56
show that side of her on the show. And Katie
52:59
LeClerc is just like the whitest woman ever.
53:02
KARA: And you know who else is white? Vanessa Marano.
53:04
DANI: Really?
53:04
KARA: She's like 100% Italian.
53:04
DANI: Wow.
53:04
KARA: Or she's
53:08
like Italian and like other half is white, European.
53:11
DANI: Sure.
53:11
KARA: Yeah.
53:11
DANI: Kind of just like you.
53:11
KARA: No, the other
53:15
half is Middle Eastern.
53:15
DANI: Oh. Kind of just like
53:18
Bay.
53:18
KARA: Like I'm Arab?
53:18
DANI: You're like Bay.
53:18
KARA: Cool.
53:18
DANI: Yeah. BOTH LAUGH.
53:22
DANI: Wow. What an episode.
53:22
KARA: I know.
53:22
DANI: Lots about identity.
53:26
KARA: Lots about identity. The discussions on race
53:29
were quite heavy handed.
53:29
DANI: Well, it was 2012.
53:29
KARA: That's
53:32
true. I wish Emmett was here and that Bonnie got
53:34
to meet him.
53:34
DANI: Oh, would have loved that. Also,
53:38
I think that this episode has the least amount
53:41
of sign language in it of all the ones we've
53:43
watched so far.
53:43
KARA: Agreed.
53:43
DANI: Like there's no...
53:43
KARA: There's
53:47
a tiny bit of simcom in the beginning with Regina
53:50
and Daphne, and that's kind of it, because everyone
53:52
else is hearing.
53:52
DANI: Yeah, Bay is also simcomming
53:55
to Daphne, but, like, real lazy. Like, she goes,
53:58
like, what if he calls? And it's like, okay.
54:01
KARA: Yeah, that is it. So hopefully there's more signing
54:03
in the next episode.
54:03
DANI: Yeah, I miss the deaf people.
54:07
KARA: I'm feeling deprived.
54:07
DANI: That is kind of the heart
54:09
of the show.
54:09
KARA: I know. That's truly the best part
54:12
of the show is the deaf culture and deaf identity
54:13
stuff. And maybe that's why we don't have any
54:16
Latina heritage stuff.
54:16
DANI: Maybe. They were like,
54:19
it's too many things. It was 2012.
54:19
KARA: They said
54:22
we can only have one culture and it's Deaf
54:24
culture. God forbid people are both. But whatever.
54:28
DANI: Yeah. I guess that was part of why I was like,
54:31
I don't really believe that Daphne and Monica
54:33
are friends. Because why doesn't Monica know
54:35
anything about sign language or being deaf? Like,
54:38
she was like, don't you go to that special school?
54:40
It's like, okay.
54:40
KARA: She said, don't you go to that
54:42
deaf school?
54:42
DANI: Yeah.
54:42
KARA: With the other deafies?
54:42
DANI: Yeah.
54:45
DANI: And I was like, if she's your friend and you
54:47
guys play together as kids, what, she doesn't
54:49
know any signs? Any basic?
54:49
KARA: Neither did Ty, remember?
54:54
DANI: Basketball? Yeah, I do remember that.
54:54
KARA: Yeah, when
54:57
Ty said goodbye, he said, like, miss you, or
55:01
something like that.
55:01
DANI: Yeah, he says, I will miss
55:03
you. And it's like a big moment. The music swells
55:05
because it's like the first time he's signed
55:07
her.
55:07
KARA: Like he looked it up on YouTube. Yeah, it's
55:09
so strange.
55:09
DANI: That just is confusing to me.
55:09
KARA: Guys,
55:12
if you have a deaf person in your life, you don't
55:14
need to be fluent. Just learn like maybe the
55:16
alphabet and a couple phrases. It's really not
55:18
that hard. And we have links in our show notes.
55:21
DANI: We have so many links in the show notes.
55:21
KARA: Please
55:23
use the links.
55:23
DANI: Please check them out.
55:23
KARA: Yeah.
55:23
DANI: Anything
55:25
else?
55:25
KARA: I think that's it for me. What about you?
55:28
DANI: Good episode. I had a good time.
55:28
KARA: Yeah, I was
55:31
mostly furious watching this.
55:31
DANI: Well, that's sort
55:34
of my default emotion when watching this show.
55:36
KARA: That is so true. I'm just angry when I start
55:38
it.
55:38
DANI: I start it already seething. MUSIC.