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Best of Chuck in the Morning 8-4 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Morning on your home for the Super Bowl Champion twelve
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  Speaker 2: Hey, well, great morning to you. It is live radio
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  Speaker 2: programming here from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Welcome into
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  Speaker 2: the show here on this Tuesday. My name is Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan with you as well as our training camp
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  Speaker 2: coverage continues. And yes, a little bit of dampness in
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  Speaker 2: the air here this morning, a little overcast in the air,
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  Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that. I ain't gonna complain about that
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  Speaker 2: as we get ready for another practice here at the
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Mason Athletics Center. And Ashley Rilly, I'm kind of
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  Speaker 2: under the gun here because this is my last chance
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  Speaker 2: to get on the first a couple episodes of Hard Knocks.
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  Speaker 2: So far nobody, I mean, I realized they probably already
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  Speaker 2: have it shot and ready to go for tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tonight's episodes probably in the books.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is But if I did something spectacular
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  Speaker 2: today then maybe they couldn't resist like going back there,
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  Speaker 2: taking a few things out and putting me in there.
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  Speaker 3: That I didn't scratch the whole episode and make it
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  Speaker 3: more about you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gonna you know, I don't be ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, you know, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go that far. I'm not saying it
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  Speaker 2: should be about me. I'm just saying there could be
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  Speaker 2: something that I do today that's important and they don't
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  Speaker 2: want that to get in the hands of other media outlets.
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  Speaker 2: Let's face it. So if they fell asleep on the
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  Speaker 2: job after I did something spectacular, you know, like uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like like if a deer ran out onto
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  Speaker 2: the field and collapsed and I brought it back to life.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, now, that would be definitely beginaranteed.
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  Speaker 4: To be an episode two at least, or like maybe
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  Speaker 4: maybe we're like the the credits are rolling and they
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  Speaker 4: kind of are showing some things there at the end.
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  Speaker 2: If I turn out to be the beast Master, I
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  Speaker 2: think they're gonna want that on the first episode.
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  Speaker 3: Well that I could guarantee.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they want me going to you know,
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  Speaker 2: Stars or Netflix taking your.
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  Speaker 3: Skills there, No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: So Hulu. Hulu loves a beast Masters story. I've heard
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  Speaker 2: so anyway, well.
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  Speaker 3: Known amongst media outlets.
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  Speaker 2: Well see, we'll see. I mean, I think they kind
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  Speaker 2: of took me for granted, maybe didn't take advantage of
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  Speaker 2: a great resource over here. But I'll watch anyway tonight.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see. No cameras in my face, is the point.
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  Speaker 2: And I would have thought there would at least been
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  Speaker 2: they at least snooped around to see how interesting I
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  Speaker 2: could be.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he'll be in the background. I could be in
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  Speaker 4: the background, right like maybe, yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: That legitimately could happen. But I really haven't seen them
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  Speaker 2: other than like driving past them in the morning and
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  Speaker 2: watching the you know, the poop truck empty out their
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  Speaker 2: facility on their morning truck. They got their Yeah, well yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they got their own little operation back there. Okay, over
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  Speaker 2: on the train tracks deal when you on the tracks,
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  Speaker 2: I guess they just live over there. Yeah. I think
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  Speaker 2: they spend the night in trailers right right over by
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  Speaker 2: the tracks.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, great morning to you. Here we go on a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff to discuss today, including the Hard Knocks episode,
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  Speaker 2: which will debut the first one in Seahawk's history, which
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  Speaker 2: we'll preview a little bit later on in the show today,
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  Speaker 2: but we are of course going to start with the
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  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball trading deadline. It came and went yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and oh my goodness, was it busy. I think you
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  Speaker 2: might argue that's the busiest trade deadline day and the
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  Speaker 2: history of sports. There wasn't a lot of activity leading
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  Speaker 2: up to the weekend, and so they saved it all
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  Speaker 2: for the last three days, and particularly yesterday. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there were moves flying around. I've watched trade deadline days
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  Speaker 2: on MLB Network where they were begging for you know,
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  Speaker 2: that news breaking sounder to play, and last night it
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  Speaker 2: was interrupting, or yesterday afternoon, it was interrupting every conversation
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  Speaker 2: that they were trying to have about the last trade
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  Speaker 2: that was made. They would get interrupted by a new,
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  Speaker 2: updated deal. But it turns out the Mariners did not
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  Speaker 2: make another trade after our show we got in our
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  Speaker 2: nine o'clock hour yesterday. The last Mariner trade the Taylor
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  Speaker 2: Ward acquisition from the Baltimore Orioles for Alex Hoppey and
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  Speaker 2: two minor league prospects that weren't even among the top
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  Speaker 2: prospects in the organization to bring over Taylor Ward. And that,
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  Speaker 2: of course couples with the Luis Castillo trade that occurred
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  Speaker 2: over the weekend for Sir Anthony Dimingas Nolan Jones and
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  Speaker 2: another minor league prospect in Boston Smith, which I do
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  Speaker 2: find odd that you know here, you got your name,
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  Speaker 2: your kid, Boston Smith, and he grows up to play
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  Speaker 2: on the White Sox organization.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems like he shouldn't have been allowed.
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  Speaker 2: But now he's in the Mariners organization and it'll be
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  Speaker 2: a few years before we see him, if ever we
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  Speaker 2: shall see, but we do know that they have made
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  Speaker 2: a couple of moves that will affect the roster starting tonight,
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  Speaker 2: and Ashley got the opportunity possibly tonight where an offense
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  Speaker 2: that has struggled for the entire season has an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: here to activate Brendan Donovan and put Taylor Ward into
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  Speaker 2: the lineup. And man, you just add two you had
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  Speaker 2: two bats like that to a lineup, and it suddenly
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  Speaker 2: looks full, It suddenly looks robust, It certainly suddenly looks like, man,
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  Speaker 2: how do we not win with this lineup right now?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 4: And it's interesting because maybe maybe yesterday when we were
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  Speaker 4: talking about how we couldn't sleep because of the Major
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  Speaker 4: League Baseball trade deadline, that was tongue in cheek, or
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  Speaker 4: maybe those that being my first.
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  Speaker 3: Thoughts in the morning, that was, yeah, I couldn't either, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't take my nap, couldn't sleep last night.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I was so annoyed. I couldn't either, and I
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  Speaker 3: was so tired.
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  Speaker 4: But this morning when I woke up, my first thought
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  Speaker 4: was Mariner's play tonight.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm pretty pumped. I'm looking forward to it now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what will happen when we get on
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  Speaker 3: the field, but the optimism that I have is is
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  Speaker 3: very high.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know how they're going to
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  Speaker 2: arrange it, but theoretically, you could of Cole Young leading off,
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Ward hitting second, Randy or Rose Arena third. You
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  Speaker 2: could go Josh Naylor if you wanted to put a
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  Speaker 2: lefty fourth, Julio could drop all the way to fifth.
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  Speaker 2: You could have dom Can zone than sixth cal seventh,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Brendon Donovan eighth, than cold Emerson ninth. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that is a that's a better lineup than the Astros have.
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  Speaker 2: It's a better lineup than the Rangers have. And we
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  Speaker 2: already know that we have better pitching staffs than both
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  Speaker 2: of those two teams. So again, we just land at
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  Speaker 2: this exact same place. There is no reason not to
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  Speaker 2: win the American League West. There just isn't. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it certainly isn't on paper. The only way that you
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  Speaker 2: don't win this division is if you just dreadfully underperform
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  Speaker 2: for the entire six months of the Major League Baseball season.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, think about that, think about the specter of
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  Speaker 2: that the only way that you don't win the division
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  Speaker 2: because the other two organizations aren't exactly in a position
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  Speaker 2: to pounce at this point. The Astros are down more
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  Speaker 2: than they've been in over a decade, and the Rangers,
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  Speaker 2: even though they're in the equation, tried to sell off
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  Speaker 2: every piece that they had at the trading deadline, and
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  Speaker 2: that shows you how they feel about their roster. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: we have a team that almost every expert in the
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  Speaker 2: field picked to win the American League West this year.
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  Speaker 2: Vegas still thinks has a pretty good shot at getting
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  Speaker 2: to the World Series, maybe even winning the World Series
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  Speaker 2: at this point. So the only way you don't win
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  Speaker 2: this division is if you collectively got together and for
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  Speaker 2: six months underachieved every single day.
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  Speaker 3: And boy, would that be really effing disappointment.
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  Speaker 6: I just would be pissed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if we get to the end of the season
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  Speaker 4: and that's what happened, because it's been disappointing to watch
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  Speaker 4: them underperformed this far, and it, yeah, for sure, and
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  Speaker 4: we just keep waiting. And that's the one thing, though,
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  Speaker 4: is we have that that.
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  Speaker 3: Well they there's they're slow to start.
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  Speaker 4: We've got the second half. We usually warm up in July. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: well July's over. We're now in August, so well, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: let's get it going.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So how did they do? Did they do enough?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they certainly could have done more. I said
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  Speaker 2: yesterday at this time twenty four hours ago. You didn't
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  Speaker 2: get better with the Luis Castillo trade. You cleared money
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  Speaker 2: for this year and next. You so you got rid
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  Speaker 2: of your worst contract in your organization. You cleared up
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  Speaker 2: your starting rotation, which, despite the embarrassment of riches that
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  Speaker 2: you seem to have at the starting pitching position, you
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  Speaker 2: sure took that advantage and turned it into arguably a
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  Speaker 2: detriment with the ways that you creatively tried to implement
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  Speaker 2: having six starters on a roster. I don't think it worked.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it was a disaster like some others
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  Speaker 2: tend to believe the piggyback or the six man rotation.
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  Speaker 2: But it certainly didn't. It wasn't effective that it didn't
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  Speaker 2: make the team better, that's for sure. And so we're
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  Speaker 2: out from underneath that. So that's been clarified. We have
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  Speaker 2: a willing relief pitcher that we can add. Unlike Castillo.
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  Speaker 2: I think Castillo would have been a better relief pitcher
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  Speaker 2: than Sir Anthony Dominguez. I think had he accepted a
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  Speaker 2: demotion to the bullpen, and maybe he would have, you
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  Speaker 2: just didn't want him to suffer that indignity apparently well,
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  Speaker 2: I think Castillo could have been a very effective reliever.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that Sir Anthony Dominguez is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a very effective reliever, but he is better than
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  Speaker 2: what we had behind the Big four, which might not
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  Speaker 2: even be the Big four anymore the way Bizardo has
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  Speaker 2: been pitching as of late. So I think Diminguez is
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  Speaker 2: an upgrade over Alex Hoppy, who has left and gone
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  Speaker 2: to Baltimore, but maybe not overwhelmingly so. So bottom line,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we got better from the Castillo trade,
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  Speaker 2: even though there were some tremendous advantages to making that deal.
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  Speaker 2: I do believe we got better with Taylor Wards addition,
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  Speaker 2: and so I think that a team that had all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of troubles. It's the biggest problem with the team.
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  Speaker 2: They can't hit left handers. And now you bring in
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  Speaker 2: a professional hitter who's had a long career. He's been
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  Speaker 2: pretty productive for most of his career, and this season
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  Speaker 2: a reworked Taylor Ward does a couple of things that
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  Speaker 2: this lineup has not been good at. He gets on
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  Speaker 2: base at an extremely high clip. He leads the American
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  Speaker 2: League in walks, he's among the major league leaders, and
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  Speaker 2: on base percentage at three eighty three, and so that's
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  Speaker 2: something that this lineup has been missing. And he does
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  Speaker 2: actively hit left handed pitching. I mean, I defend and
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  Speaker 2: will always defend the ref Schneider, Pollock Garver decisions in
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  Speaker 2: the moment. Don't ever defend the way they performed here,
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  Speaker 2: because it's been a disaster for all three of those guys.
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  Speaker 2: But in the moment, you were taking three veterans who
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  Speaker 2: had years of proven track record of hitting left handed pitching,
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  Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, they got here and couldn't do
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  Speaker 2: it anymore. Well, Rob Reschneider, I suppose has the excuse of, ah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot that can happen in six months off
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  Speaker 2: from the last time that I played baseball. You don't
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  Speaker 2: have that with Taylor Ward. He is presently hitting left
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  Speaker 2: handers actively. Yesterday he was hitting left handers all right.
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  Speaker 2: And so if he comes here and cannot hit a
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  Speaker 2: left hander and cannot hit it all and suddenly can't
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  Speaker 2: get on base. I don't know how to explain that.
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  Speaker 2: All I can tell you is based off of the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: He should give the Mariners a couple of things that
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  Speaker 2: they sorely need in their lineup, and that is an
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  Speaker 2: ability to hit left handers and an ability to get
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  Speaker 2: on base, and to create more traffic and more run
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  Speaker 2: scoring opportunities. And so from that standpoint, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that we got aggressively better yesterday or over the course
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  Speaker 2: of the trade deadline. But I think already the best
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  Speaker 2: roster in the American League West that has done nothing
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  Speaker 2: but underachieve for the entire season this year did get
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  Speaker 2: better yesterday where the Rangers did not and the Astros
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  Speaker 2: really did not. And so from that standpoint, yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: a successful I'll give it a B trading deadline. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if we could have expected Ashley anything
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  Speaker 2: ultra aggressive. Yeah, a little more aggressive. I could have
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  Speaker 2: seen a little more aggressive. But when you're three games
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  Speaker 2: under five hundred and you really are just waiting for
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  Speaker 2: your guys, I mean, you know that the rest of
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  Speaker 2: this season is going to hinge on whether Cal Julio
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  Speaker 2: and Josh hit the baseball. The rest of the way
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  Speaker 2: that's even with the addition of Taylor Ward, it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: come down to it's going to come down to whether
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  Speaker 2: there are three best hitters are going to hit this
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  Speaker 2: year at any point with any consistency. So from that standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting a team three games under five hundred
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  Speaker 2: to be overly aggressive, And frankly, I'm just relieved at
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  Speaker 2: this moment that we still have George Kirby, Emerson, Hancock,
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  Speaker 2: and Randy or Rose Arena on the roster.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's the key, because that's what we
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  Speaker 4: talked about yesterday. That's what I was afraid of, is
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  Speaker 4: that we're going to get an update that one of
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  Speaker 4: those guys is gone, especially you know, to I would
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  Speaker 4: have I would have hated getting rid of Kirby. I
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  Speaker 4: could have I would have hated get getting rid of Emerson,
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  Speaker 4: although I could have understood that one more and I
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  Speaker 4: would I would have not understood why you're getting rid
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  Speaker 4: of the most consistent hitter in your lineup when hitting's
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  Speaker 4: been a problem. So to go into that trade deadline
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, not be overly aggressive, I'm fine with that,
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  Speaker 4: not even be aggressive, but you come away with a
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  Speaker 4: right handed hitter, which is what you needed.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't overpay for him. And there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, better team. Yeah, better team today than what
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  Speaker 2: they were at this time yesterday. And not again, not
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  Speaker 2: aggressively better, but better. And I don't think that they
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  Speaker 2: needed to get aggressively better. I mean, the Houston Astros
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  Speaker 2: added a Dalton VARs Show is a very He's a
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  Speaker 2: great defender and a good player. I mean, we got
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  Speaker 2: to know him with the Toronto Blue Jays last year
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  Speaker 2: in the ALCS uh very well. He's a good player.
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  Speaker 2: That's who they added at the trading deadline, despite the
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  Speaker 2: fact that they had a much bigger need to add
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  Speaker 2: a starting pitcher than we had. Think about this, then
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  Speaker 2: we had to add a hitter. Their their need to
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  Speaker 2: add a starting pitcher was far more dramatic than our
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  Speaker 2: need to add a hitter here. And you know how
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  Speaker 2: badly we needed a hitter here. And yet they traded
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  Speaker 2: a starting pitcher, one of the guys in their rotation
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  Speaker 2: for Dalton var Show. And again he's he's going to
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  Speaker 2: improve their defense and center field, and he gives them
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  Speaker 2: a weapon and their and their life lip, just like
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Ward gives us a new weapon in our lineup,
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  Speaker 2: but they didn't even address that. Their biggest issue and
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  Speaker 2: that is starting pitching. And as I said, the Texas Rangers,
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  Speaker 2: they the only news that they made yesterday is that
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  Speaker 2: Jacob de Gram, Nate Yvaldi, and Corey Seeger told them
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  Speaker 2: We're not waiving our no trade claus. They tried to
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  Speaker 2: trade them all yesterday. That's how confident they are now.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I'm a little worried about is that we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have like a major league situation here where they
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  Speaker 2: might rally around that, Yeah, they tried to trade us all.
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  Speaker 2: A bunch of veterans might rally the troops around the
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  Speaker 2: idea that ownership and management wanted to give up on
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  Speaker 2: them when they were only two and a half games
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  Speaker 2: out of first place, And so maybe they rally around
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  Speaker 2: that fact. But the truth of the matter is that
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  Speaker 2: shows you just how confident the Rangers are that they
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  Speaker 2: can hang with the Astros and the Mariners the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the way. So not only do I think we
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  Speaker 2: have a passing grade at the trading deadline, I'd give
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  Speaker 2: it a B. And compared to the Houston Astros, I
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  Speaker 2: mean they can't get any more than a C. And
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  Speaker 2: the Texas Rangers failed. They I mean they failed. I
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  Speaker 2: mean even the trades they tried to make got rebuked
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  Speaker 2: by the people they were trying to trade. So from
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  Speaker 2: my standpoint, you know, it was a fine trading deadline.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that Jerry and Justin weren't overly aggressive,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, just as I've thought all season long,
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  Speaker 2: they're still despite the two and a half game deficit
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  Speaker 2: in the division, zero reason why this team doesn't win
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  Speaker 2: the division, and if they don't, then it's just a
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  Speaker 2: case of six months of classic underachieving. There is nothing
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  Speaker 2: wrong with this roster compared to those within our division
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  Speaker 2: who are hunting for the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Right, They're and not saying that winning the division is
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  Speaker 4: the end goal, because we have some people who are like, wait,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: that we want more than that. Yeah you want, sure,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: but you should, but you should start by winning the
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: division and then go from there.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I say this repeatedly. I just want to get into.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: The dance, yes, exactly, and then you never know what happens.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in this sport, this is not the NBA, this
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: is not not even the National Football League. This is
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. I mean, the Los Angeles Dodgers have
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: won back to back world titles. They won by a cleat,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: literally a cleat over the Toronto Blue Jays last year.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Kiner Filefa didn't get his cleat to the bag
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: before he got tagged. That's how close the Blue Jays
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: came to beating the Dodgers. And the year before, the
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Dodgers weren't even the best team in their division. The
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Padres were better, and they absolutely blew a playoff series,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: absolutely blew it and allowed the Dodgers to get through
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: the door that they had no business passing through. So
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: anything can happen in the playoffs, especially when you have
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: great pitching. And I think that we are going to
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: have great pitching, not just starting pitching. I know that
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: there's this big conversation about we should have added another reliever.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I could have lived with adding another reliever, but I
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: don't think we needed to. And I'll explain that a
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: little bit later on in the show U at seven
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: thirty as a matter of fact, when I intend to
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: talk about the trade deadline again. But let's go ahead
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: and find out what is on tap for today's fantastic
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• 19:42
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• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, uh you get you gotta go an exercise larger.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I know, I don't know.
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• 19:52
  Speaker 2: A little more. Yeah, because these are made of cotton,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: these are nice. Yeah. Ryan Heally's gonna join us at
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: nine o'clock today to talk about the deadline and the
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: rest of the way. A lineup that will feature Taylor
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Ward and we are expecting Brendan Donovan to be activated
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: from the injury list and from his paternity leave in
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: time for tonight's game. Also, Sir Anthony Demingez should be
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: in a Mariner uniform tonight as well as the Mariners
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: get set to host the Detroit Tigers six forty. As
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: your first pitch, Emerson Hancock pitches for the Ems, Troy Melton,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: who actually gave us more trouble than Trek Scooble. If
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you remember in the series we played against the Tigers
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: last year, Melton's the guy we couldn't hit. Ray Polanco
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: owned Trek Schooble. Nobody could hit Troy Melton. I have
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: read that he's supposed to start tonight, but then I
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: also read this morning that they're undecided. So if we
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: get any update on that, I'll pass that along. But
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I'd like to avoid Troy Melton. I don't think there's
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: any way to do it over the course of the
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: next three days because he is really damn good. Trek
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Scooble's going to debut for the Dodge tonight in Chicago
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: against the Cubs. I have a little more to say
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: on school, because there was one thing about the whole
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Dodger conversation we had at nine o'clock that I really
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: think is important that I make clear. I'll just say
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: shortly quickly that I'm not blaming the Dodgers for acting
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: like the Dodgers. What I'm blaming is that there's a
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: system that is in place in Major League Baseball where
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers can be the Dodgers, if that makes any sense.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't, I'm going to explain that a little
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: bit later on. In the show Little League World Series
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Snowhomish Boy, there's something about Lake Mary. They just whooped
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: are local ladies of the snow and so it's an
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: elimination day against Texas. Seven am start. Yes, they're playing
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: at seven am today, Go Snowhomish celebrity won over the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Storm ninety five eighty three Brianna Stewart against her former
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: team twenty four points and eight rebounds. And the Seahawks
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: training camp continues. That's why we're here. Hard Knocks episode,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the first one is tonight. Kobe Bryant, by the way,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: injured and out six to eight weeks for the Chicago Bears,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: so his new team and the Hall of Fame game
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: will be played this Thursday. That's right. Preseason football to
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: be played this Thursday between the Panthers and the Cardinals
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: with Hall of Fame weekend coming up on Saturday. Coming
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: up next though, on our program, we're gonna go over
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: some NFL news and notes. We don't have Mariners morning after,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: but there are lots of NFL news and notes to
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: pass along, including b Jean Robinson breaking the bank. We'll
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: tell you about it next. Sports Radio ninety three point
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: three KJRFM. If we could have created that, we don't
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: have the manpower unfortunately, but we do have Brady Russell
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: joining us here at our set from your Seattle Seahawks
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: here at training camp. Always enjoyable to talk to the
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: big personality that is our full back slash tight end,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Brady Russell.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: How you doing many, sir? I'm good, happy to be here,
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: Great to see you. Yeah, it's good to see you.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: Feeling I feel great? Yeah, yeah, fresh fresh legs even
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: though it's day nine practice.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Nine eggs on day nine of practice. Well, that probably
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: speaks to either it's a soft camp, that's what you're
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: telling us, or you're saying that I did my work.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: No, I just did my work.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, punch the what do they say p's and q's
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: something like.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: That, something like that, something like that. All right, So,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't want to bury the lead here.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I mean football you would think would be the lead.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: It's not the lead in Brady Russell's life. Your wife
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: is due like any second now, are you distracted right now?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Because you're afraid you're gonna miss a text or a
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: phone call.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: No. No, she's got plenty of numbers in the building here,
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: so they can come get a hold of me in
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: meetings or something. But it is pretty crazy that it
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: could just be at any moment, all of a sudden,
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: I'm pulled out because my life's in labor or something.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: But we could be watching practice today and if you're
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: running off the field, we know what's going on.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: It's either that or I'm going pee of the two,
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: one of the two. That happened almost every practice. Nobody knows,
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: but most every practice.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: All right, so is this your first child?
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: Yes, sir, first child? Yeah?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: We got a little girl, yep, little Hadley Hadley Russell. Ye.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: Unless she doesn't look like a Hadley, then I don't
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: know what we're gonna do.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: How do you determine? I don't know.
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: It's a good question. People ask me that, though, they go,
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: what if she doesn't look like a Hadley?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: And I don't know.
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: I don't know what I'm gonna do.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: We don't have a plan B right now, right panic
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and just namer oots, Ye, I'm all right, We're gonna
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: go with oots.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: That's funny. Name of Robbie. Robbie be cute girl. Name
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: would be a cute girl. Yeah yeah, uh so are
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: you nervous excited? How you're feeling about because excited? Excited?
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: For sure, it's gonna be just a whole new phase
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: of life. And I'm sure give me a whole new
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: perspective on what it's like. I don't know the kind
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: of the I feel like I'm gonna get a crazy
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: person active on the way God sees us as his children,
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Like just being the creator and your creation and the
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: pride you have in that and the like the good
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: you want for it like that. I think that's gonna
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: be really cool.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: That is a cool that's a cool way to look
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: at things. Brady Russell is with us is hard knocks
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: following you around? Do they know this? Do they have? No?
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: I don't think they do, But I think it's kind
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: of funny. What a great storyline.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Keep it secret, your secret safe with me? Nobody listens
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: to this show, Secret safe with me, so I won't
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: tell anybody. Well, let's talk a little football. Then new
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator this year, and I keep hearing that man,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: he's doing some interesting things. With running backs and tight
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: ends and you're in both rooms. So is that true? Yeah?
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, He's using us in all sorts of ways, different
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: ways that are. It's so creative in the run game
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: and stuff and innovative too, So I think it's fun
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: getting to like you're running stuff and it might be
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: the sort of the first time it's ever really been run.
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: So it's like, hey, we want you to do X,
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: y Z this way instead of this way. Like it
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: might be like correcting things on the move because because
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: we haven't ever done it before.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So can you give us an example or would that
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: be a violation of turn?
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: I mean it could just be like a certain motion,
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: like you want me to motion in a certain way
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: so that it looks like something else and presents itself
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: in a different way than it actually is. Like they
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: might think I'm running a different play and then I
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: go do something totally different because it presents itself as
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: something and flip the script and is totally the opposite.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: It is it natural to when you when you get
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: introduced to a new offensive system where you're like this,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: does everybody just think this is really going to benefit
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: me personally?
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: I think everybody probably hopes that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but but but you're such a team guy,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: like does your is your first thought, Like, man, this
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: is a really good offense.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: It is really going to benefit Sam. I don't know
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: if that's my first thought really. I think it's more
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: like every year, my one of my goals for the
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: last three years, I'd say it's been the carve out
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: a role on offense, and it's never really happened, never
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: come to fruition. But that's been okay, Like we I'm
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: still here, I'm on the team, I'm loving ball, I'm
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: doing what I feel like Gods created me to do. Right.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: And just because that doesn't mean him involved in the
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: offensive scheme, that doesn't mean it's not a good thing.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: Like we won a super Bowl last year, right, Like
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: that doesn't Obviously that was good and I knew what
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: he was doing, right Yeah. So like while everybody wants
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: to be involved in while everybody wants their talents to
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: be presented, like at this end of the day, like
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: we all just want to win too. So I think
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: that seems to be a sentiment that's pretty like it
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: goes across the whole team. It's not just me.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It's thinking that way, how about Hadley will never have
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: to know a day where you're not a Super Bowl champion.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I know that. Good for.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: I'm actually planning on her calling me super Bowl champion
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: before she says father. Her first word, first word is
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: super Bowl change.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: That'd be quite the thing to pull off, right there. Yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: but you know, score a couple of touchdowns for this
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: year would be nice.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: That would be nice.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, special teams, You're not opposed to it. Special teams
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: is obviously a role that you've embraced, and it's it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: one thing to embrace that and to accept that. It's
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: another thing when your organization embraces that. I mean, I
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I'm not one of those guys. As
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: a sports talk show host, I kind of always laughed
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: at the three phases of the game, like there's no
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: way special teams is as important as defense and offense.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Until I watched your team play last year and win
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, and I'm like, this is all three
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: phases and they're all very good, too great, all three phases,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And by the end of the year, special teams was
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: off the charts. So what's it like to be somebody
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: that has embraced special teams for an organization that has
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: really embraced special teams.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's so cool to have. I mean, they
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: pour so much into me and in the way that
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: that like they trust me to lead a lot of
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: the players, and they trust me to coach guys that
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: are like the young guys and bring them along with me.
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: So it's like it's a really cool role to have
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: because while I don't get recognized by the public or
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: I'm not like a big name in the Seahawks organization, Like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: there's a whole lot of trust and a whole lot
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: of I guess value that they put into me that
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: is unseen, and like it's a cool it's a cool feeling.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: So is there inner competitions like you and tyrees have,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you know, tackle competitions on special teams play? I mean,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: does that that happens in special teams?
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: I'm sure everybody probably wants to lead the team in tackles.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: But also at the end of the day, like I
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: think this is a really evident thing on film that
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: I love, Like a lot of teams you'll see someone
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: get tackled and everybody just kind of someone gets up
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: and then the person gets up and they walk off
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: the field. But like every time someone makes a play
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: on our team, like almost all eleven are there just
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: freaking out, like celebrating. We just got to tackle inside
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: the twenty five, Like I don't care whether it was
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: me that set an edge and Tyrese got to go
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: make the play or Tyree's funneled it to me and
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: I got to make the play, Like I wouldn't have
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: made the play if it wasn't for the other team
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: that are out there with me. So at the end
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: of the day, like, yeah, everybody wants to tackle because
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: it's fun. Go smack somebody, But uh, we don't really
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: have competitions in that way. We're just we're just pumped
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: for each other to make plays.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: That said, there's uh you see all these turnover chains
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and everything. They have a special team like a bat
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: that you just put a notch on, Like you get
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: to notch the bat. Yeah, carried around on the sidelines.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: What do you think.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we need some kickoff tackle.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Bats, something, something to celebrate the big special team shit,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: because you guys as a collective, get a lot of those.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: They're there. Uh, well, man, you got a lot of
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: things going for you. You look, wean and yet you're heavier.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: So you've you've created the magical combo of the off season.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: You're a super Bowl champion, and you got you got
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a baby on the way. So life is good for
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Brady rs.
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: It's great.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. All right, Great to see you. Yep.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to have you on. Brady Russell joining
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: us right here on the radio program Back with More.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell joins us next Sports Radio ninety three point
• 31:16
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• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you here on this Tuesday. We're at the Virginia Mason
• 31:29
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• 31:32
  Speaker 2: As we move into our number two, we have a
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• 31:40
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  Speaker 2: We'll get the latest from yesterday, day eight of a
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: training camp from Greg here in about two minutes from now.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: But let me rip through your headlines here on a Tuesday,
• 31:53
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• 31:57
  Speaker 2: trading deadline came and went in Major League baseball. In
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: my goodness, was it busy. Perhaps the busiest deadline day
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: and any sport ever. Yesterday the Mariners did make a move.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: They added Taylor Ward from the Baltimore Orioles three eighty
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: three on base percentage this year for the thirty two
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: year old outfielder who has rebuilt himself into something we
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: don't even recognize in the American League West. He used
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: to be a power hitter with bad on base and
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: now he's an on base guy who has only seven
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: home runs this season. But he hits left handers and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: he also gets on base, which are two things that
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: this team sorely needs in its lineup. Yes, so nice
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: move Taylor Ward to the Mariners yesterday, added to the
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Luis Castillo trade for Sir Anthony Dominguez back on Saturday.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And that's all she wrote for the Mariners trading deadline
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. The team will be in action
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: tonight against the Detroit Tigers, who, of course will not
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: pitch Derek Schoolbell. He would have pitched today it was
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: his turn in the rotation to pitch against the Mariners,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: but he's now a Los Angeles Dodger who will debut
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: against the Cubs tonight at Wrigley. Meanwhile, Emerson Hancock will
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: go against what is believed to be Troy Melton, who's
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: been even better this season than Scooble. So not exactly
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: an upgrade there for us. But there's also a report
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that the Tigers are still undecided as to who will
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: start tonight, So I'm not exactly sure what to believe,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: but there's a chance that we're going to face a
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: guy that was much harder on us in the playoffs
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: a year ago in that Tiger series than even Scooble
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: was in Troy Melton first pitches at six forty. The
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Snawhomish Little League softball team in action today. They are
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: facing elimination against the team out of Texas. They are underway.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: They just started at seven am, and the Storm lost
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: their ninth consecutive game last night to the Liberty by
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: a final score of ninety five to eighty three. Brianna
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Stewart twenty four points eight rebounds against her former team.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: But the story here for US today Seahawks training camp
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: joining us now Greg Bell as.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Part of our continuing NFL coverage for the twelfth Man.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Greg, Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Well all right, Well, before we get into your Hard
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  Speaker 2: Knocks debut tonight, I want to talk about Brady Russell
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  Speaker 2: because we just have Brady Russell. How great is Brady Russell?
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 5: He's a personality kid. Yeah, a former marine pilot, just
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  Speaker 5: got married. He just got married this offseason. Yeah, guy
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  Speaker 5: who goes out shirtless no matter what the weather, no
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  Speaker 5: matter what the condition is.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't show up in his shirt today at the
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  Speaker 2: so I'll give him that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's different. But yeah, he's been a Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 5: type of guy, a Seahawks guy doing it Seahawk way,
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  Speaker 5: as McDonald likes to say, doing everything the coaches ask
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  Speaker 5: of him. Tireless worker, plays through pain. They got him
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  Speaker 5: off waivers from Philadelphia a few summers ago, and he
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  Speaker 5: just showed up and did everything. He fullback, he does,
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  Speaker 5: tight end, he does all the special teams and one
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  Speaker 5: of those jack of all trades guys that every NFL
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  Speaker 5: team needs to succeed. You gotta have a couple of those.
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  Speaker 5: It saves him and lets him use roster spots in
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  Speaker 5: other positions. And now that Robbie Hoots is out with
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  Speaker 5: the ominous sounding issue, that we'll find out. Mike McDonald says,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to learn more in a couple of days
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  Speaker 5: about Robbie Hoots. It could be Brady Russell back to
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  Speaker 5: some more fullback and more than he played last year
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  Speaker 5: with Robbie Hooots. But yeah, he's he's been signed back
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  Speaker 5: a couple times because they like him so much.
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  Speaker 2: Well, give us the details on Oots. I was going
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  Speaker 2: to transition and right into that. So what is going
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  Speaker 2: on there?
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  Speaker 5: Well, he had the next issue at the end of
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  Speaker 5: last season. He missed the last two regular season games
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  Speaker 5: because of it. And then he was practicing to start
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  Speaker 5: this training camp. I actually saw him as an inline
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  Speaker 5: tight end blocking with offensive tackles for a couple of
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  Speaker 5: practices and the position drills, and then Saturday he wasn't
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  Speaker 5: on the field, and yesterday wasn't on the field. And
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  Speaker 5: when we asked Mike McDonald after practice, he said, well,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to try to find out more information on
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  Speaker 5: Robbie's situation. We'll let you know sooner than later, and
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  Speaker 5: that's usually not good. When it's we're going to give
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  Speaker 5: you news sooner than later, that's often long term injury
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  Speaker 5: injury list type information. I don't want to put the
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  Speaker 5: car before the horse there. But he didn't sound very
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  Speaker 5: good about it. He's usually more vague or all just
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  Speaker 5: normal camp stuff is in the case of Julian Neil
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  Speaker 5: and Jake Bobo. But that's not what he said about
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  Speaker 5: Robbie Hoats yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they feel good up about Russell if it came
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  Speaker 2: to that, or would they be searching for another fullback?
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  Speaker 5: They could be searching for another fullback. I talked to
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  Speaker 5: Nick fan that last week about some fullback he's played
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  Speaker 5: in the past, and he hasn't done any yet in
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  Speaker 5: this camp. But they are using tight ends and fullback
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  Speaker 5: somewhat interchangeably in motion and setting up on offset wings
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  Speaker 5: and Brian Flurry at least the forty nine or system
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  Speaker 5: does this as well, sometimes using their tight ends in
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  Speaker 5: the backfield. But yeah, if it sounds as bad as
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  Speaker 5: it sounds, if it is as bad as it sounds,
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  Speaker 5: then they could be shopping for another fullback. They're hard
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  Speaker 5: to come by, of course, in this league, because the
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  Speaker 5: aren't many teams that use them, and there aren't many
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  Speaker 5: college programs that have them anymore. In fact, Oots was
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  Speaker 5: a tight end at Alabama two hundred and seventy five
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  Speaker 5: pounds that they converted the fullback last year. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's somewhat of a concern for an offense that wants
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  Speaker 5: to use fullbacks. It may end up being a hybrid.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think a J. Parner is going to line
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  Speaker 5: up back there. But they've got Salvert, who himself is
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  Speaker 5: injured not practicing right now. They've got Nick Finnett who's
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  Speaker 5: done a little bit of in the past. Nick calip
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  Speaker 5: has been on the practice squad. In the fringes of
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  Speaker 5: the roster. They could convert some of that, but in
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  Speaker 5: the short term, it looks like Brady Russell's tight end
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  Speaker 5: days might be numbered.
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  Speaker 2: head big contract in the offseason, and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: us wondered, is his offensive role gonna have to expand?
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  Speaker 2: Is he gonna have to be used a lot more
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  Speaker 2: to justify pandem seventeen million dollars per year? What are
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  Speaker 2: you seeing that might address that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, yes, they're Sam Darnold and Rashid Shiheed went to
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  Speaker 5: Southern California worked out at SATEBAC Junior College and Mission
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  Speaker 5: Viejo from the six weeks from the end of mini
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  Speaker 5: camp in June to the start of training camp in
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  Speaker 5: July to work on the timing of the speed getting
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  Speaker 5: Donald used to Shaheed's speed. There were a lot of
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  Speaker 5: times late last season, including the very second minute of
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  Speaker 5: the NFC Championship Game, that Donald under threw Shaheed because
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  Speaker 5: he just couldn't outthrow his speed and had he thrown
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  Speaker 5: that ball out the go route past Williams the corner
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  Speaker 5: on the very first there's two in FFNX in the
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  Speaker 5: NFC Title Game, I would have been a touchdown. He's
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  Speaker 5: somewhat underthrew him, being a fifty one yard game instead.
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  Speaker 5: So they worked a lot on that. But last year,
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  Speaker 5: if you could say, well he needed to be more
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  Speaker 5: to the offense, he didn't get here until November. He
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  Speaker 5: was merging into traffic mid stream and that's not an
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  Speaker 5: ideal place for a quarterback and a wide receiver to mess.
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  Speaker 5: Now they've had the time the off season working out
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  Speaker 5: on their own in California. You can see it every day.
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  Speaker 5: It's night and day difference from last year to this year,
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  Speaker 5: and how connected they are. Yesterday, Donald hit him and
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  Speaker 5: Stride at about fifty plus yards in a post route
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  Speaker 5: that sh just ran right by the rookie corner. Michael
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  Speaker 5: Dansby and Bud Clark misjudged the speed he was stead
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  Speaker 5: of inside leverage on the post route, and he just
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  Speaker 5: misjudged how fast shed she heated and she hed ran
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  Speaker 5: like five yards behind him. But Donald's throw. The most
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  Speaker 5: notable part of that play yesterday was that Donald's throw,
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  Speaker 5: fifty plus yards in the air, was in stride out
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  Speaker 5: in front of Shaheed instead of underthrown. So they've gotten
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  Speaker 5: much better at that. The idea is to have Shaheed
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  Speaker 5: and Horton, now that he's back off his shine surgery,
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  Speaker 5: both on the field at the same time to see
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  Speaker 5: how defenses react to that speed going down the field.
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  Speaker 5: In theory, open up everything for Smith and Jiglick, Cup, Barner,
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  Speaker 5: Price and everybody underneath. But when I brought that up
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  Speaker 5: Tommike McDonald yesterday, the coach said, yeah, that's true, but
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  Speaker 5: we need to be balanced on offense when we go
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  Speaker 5: to those both ghost guys in the field. We just
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  Speaker 5: can't be chucking it straight down the field or having
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  Speaker 5: those guys run down the fild. We have to be keeping
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  Speaker 5: defenses honest, so that defenses camp pigeonholes' into. Okay, the
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  Speaker 5: Seahawks are doing this because the speed guys are in.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of herbs for throw. Greg, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you have to use chuck. I don't know if that's
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's appropriate. A lot of different things, Charles,
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  Speaker 2: you can toss it, you can hurl it. There are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different things. I don't know. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: just I could give you a thisaurus if you'd like.
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  Speaker 2: When I see Greg bellis with us here on chug
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  Speaker 2: a Buck in the morning. All right, So Riley Mills,
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  Speaker 2: Riley Mills, Riley Mills. That seems to be the name
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  Speaker 2: that was brought up his talk of camp, but is
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  Speaker 2: Bud Clark starting to carve into that a little bit
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  Speaker 2: here in camp early on?
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  Speaker 5: Well, bud Clark's making his move. He's Yesterday was his
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  Speaker 5: most extensive day with the Ones yet as a deep
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  Speaker 5: safety for Tyle Katta, playing next to Julian Love with
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  Speaker 5: the starting defense, and then Bud Clark, second round pick
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  Speaker 5: from TCU, was in the Eamon Warri role and that
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  Speaker 5: was interesting to see it to start a camp when
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  Speaker 5: Emon Worry was put on the pup list if it
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  Speaker 5: would be blud Clark because when they drafted and they
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  Speaker 5: said he had Bud Clark or Nick Even Orrie type
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  Speaker 5: of talent and that he could tackle. He played close
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  Speaker 5: to the box of college. He's a good run supporter,
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  Speaker 5: run tackler, an additional cover guy and that sounded a
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  Speaker 5: little bit like the hybrid role that even Rorri started in.
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  Speaker 5: And sure enough, yesterday, for the first time on the
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  Speaker 5: starting defense, blud Clark was doing just that to Nick
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  Speaker 5: Even warrior role. It had been the Anthony Bell at
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  Speaker 5: the first week with the starting defense in that role,
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  Speaker 5: but yesterday Clark alternated with Bell. He also alternated with
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  Speaker 5: Okata and after practice McDonald's yep. We're trying to fire
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  Speaker 5: hose him and give him all we can and see
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  Speaker 5: how much he can handle, just like they did with
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  Speaker 5: Nick even Worriy twelve months ago. And of course even
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  Speaker 5: Worriy came out splendidly and was a star in the
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  Speaker 5: league guest last year doing all of that from defensive
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  Speaker 5: lineback to safety. They're trying to see how much Clark
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  Speaker 5: can handle. And McDonald said it's not perfect. He's got
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  Speaker 5: some things he still has to work on, assignment wise, whatnot.
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  Speaker 5: But that's so far, so good, So that sounds like
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  Speaker 5: that the experiment's going to continue. Nick emn Worry's positive
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  Speaker 5: news is what the coach says, But nothing new beyond well,
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  Speaker 5: he'll be ready when he's ready. He was signing autographs
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  Speaker 5: wearing a low race on that right ankle that hit
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  Speaker 5: surgery on early in July, and he had a crutch
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  Speaker 5: with him. He wasn't really using it when he was
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  Speaker 5: signing autographs for fans after practice on Saturday. But it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't look like it's going to be a day to
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  Speaker 5: day thing, but more of a week to week thing right.
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  Speaker 2: Now with emn Worry, well, they're already using a Hard
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  Speaker 2: Knocks clip of Mike McDonald to Nick Emon Worrey on
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  Speaker 2: social media right now, a little meeting between the two
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  Speaker 2: of them. So how big of a story has this
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  Speaker 2: been for you in covering the Seahawks? I mean, is
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  Speaker 2: this something that you're going to have to report about
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  Speaker 2: every single day after tonight? Are you going to get
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  Speaker 2: information that is not made available to you? Guys? Is
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  Speaker 2: HBO getting stuff that even the beat writers aren't getting?
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  Speaker 2: So how do you cover Hard Knocks tonight?
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  Speaker 5: Well? Yeah, HBO is getting stuff we're not thing because
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  Speaker 5: we're not in the locker room this time of year.
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  Speaker 5: We're not all allowed in the meeting rooms. We're not
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  Speaker 5: in Mike McDonald's office. We're not recording everything set in there.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, of course they're getting more than the beat
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  Speaker 5: writers do. So of course we have to watch it.
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  Speaker 5: I have to watch it to see if there's anything
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  Speaker 5: newsworthy that we can't get to. That's part and parcels
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  Speaker 5: NFL films and the billions of dollars a year the
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  Speaker 5: television contracts give the NFL, and yeah, all of that,
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  Speaker 5: but it's not an everyday thing. It's only every day
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  Speaker 5: thing when we ask the players and the coaches and
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  Speaker 5: they talk about it. The players are starting to get
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  Speaker 5: used to it. They were handled up for the cameras
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  Speaker 5: a little bit to start, and now there's it's kind
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: of like just plants in the office. I mean they're
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  Speaker 5: just there and we'll see tonight. Have already seen this
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  Speaker 5: first episode. I was told there was nothing objectable, something
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  Speaker 5: they had to go back to the producers and no
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  Speaker 5: O only of this that the Seahawks were happy with
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  Speaker 5: how it came out and how it portrayed the team's operations.
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  Speaker 5: So but yes, tonight six o'clock live, if you have
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  Speaker 5: HBO Max nine o'clock, if you're just going to watch
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  Speaker 5: it a cable HBO our time, that you're going to
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  Speaker 5: see things that unprecedented access to the Seahawks that we're
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  Speaker 5: not ever allowed to report.
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  Speaker 2: Are we going to see a different side of Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald than what he gives us publicly, what he gives
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  Speaker 2: the beat, or or is what you see what you
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  Speaker 2: get with Mike McDonald as far as you can.
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  Speaker 5: Tell, mostly is what you see is what you again,
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  Speaker 5: and some of the clips at HBO has put out
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  Speaker 5: his teasers and trailers sound very Mike McDonald and are
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  Speaker 5: consistent with how he is with us and saying he's
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  Speaker 5: the most awkward guy in America and all those things.
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  Speaker 5: But there will be interact just like the clip they
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  Speaker 5: released this morning with Emon Warry in his office. There
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  Speaker 5: will still be interactions in moments that we have not
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  Speaker 5: too that will be unique and will be a different
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  Speaker 5: side that the fans don't usually get to see. But
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  Speaker 5: McDonald himself, yeah, there's there's pretty much. He's pretty much
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  Speaker 5: who he is. There's not a lot of pretense to
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  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald or layers. He's pretty matter of fact and
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  Speaker 5: who he is. There shouldn't be too much revealing about
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  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald the person, at least not those of us
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  Speaker 5: who deal with them every workday.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna force the issue a little bit so you
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  Speaker 2: can get on the show. You're gonna ask some really
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  Speaker 2: controversial questions throughout camp. What do you think?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 5: I was stild? Chris Seegan and Paul Sylvie and the
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  Speaker 5: King five guys did a poll of which beat writers
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  Speaker 5: will be most featured on Hard Knocks, and they said
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: it was me because of my questions sometimes elicit some
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  Speaker 5: responses from people. Sometimes because I ask questions, maybe they
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  Speaker 5: don't want to be asked, But no, I'm not going
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  Speaker 5: out of my way to be I when I went
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  Speaker 5: to journalism school a long time ago, it was don't
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  Speaker 5: be a part of the story, at least the ones
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  Speaker 5: I right. So yeah, I don't think anyone's not even
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  Speaker 5: my wife will tune into Hard Knocks and say, oh,
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  Speaker 5: let's see if Greg from the show it's not a
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  Speaker 5: They'll probably even if I accidentally make it on some
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  Speaker 5: kind of scene, they'll cut that up.
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  Speaker 2: But are you gonna tune in tonight? Is it gonna
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: be uh, you know, Wendy and Greg with some popcorn
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  Speaker 2: out watching the show.
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  Speaker 5: It'll be Greg and Eric's son while I'm watching out
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: of curiosity more than anything. But yeah, I'm gonna look
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  Speaker 5: for stuff and in the pad. I have beat writers
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: around the league who've dealt with this in their training camps,
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: and they've told me that they watch it because there
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: are things on there that become newsworthy or things that
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: they couldn't otherwise get to that you then have to
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: follow up and ask people about or whatever. I hate
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: to do journalism that way. I mean, ye, off of
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: television or off of somebody else's reporting. That's really not
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: what it's supposed to be. I'll mostly watch it as
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: a fan and a viewer tonight with an eye toward
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: whoa that was newsworthy, though I'm not expecting too much
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: in that regard.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's gonna be our lead story tomorrow, so
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: you know we're not bashful about it. We're gonna we're
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: probably gonna do our whole show on it tomorrow. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: I just mean I no, I shouldn't be producing journalism
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  Speaker 5: up for someone else's journalism entirely.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Get what you're saying. Uh yeah, but but yeah, we're shameless.
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  Speaker 5: No, it'll be what everyone's talking about tomorrow. You should
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: be talking about it in the morning for sure.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: All right, what do you got for ten o'clock today?
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: Then we're I sat down with no ig Moinogamy after
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  Speaker 8: practices the Veteran Cornys in his eighth year. His parents
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  Speaker 8: both his parents his mother was a four x four
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  Speaker 8: the ninety two Olympics, or his father was a long
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  Speaker 8: in the ninety six Olympics.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: He himself. No ran track at Auburn on top of
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  Speaker 5: playing football, and he loves Dan quint And we're gonna
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  Speaker 5: talk about the former Seahawks defensive cord who got him
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: to Davis, then got him to Washington, made him a
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: full time NFL starter, has made him a lot of
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: money man. One of the bigger Dan Quinn fans I've
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: come across a long time. Noig ben Aga, He's gonna
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: make the team as an extra veteran safety corner. Excuse me,
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  Speaker 5: I could also play Nickel that they've had him in recently,
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  Speaker 5: and they need more veteran corners than a very young secondary.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Greg, Well we'll see at ten, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 2: have a good day.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Our own NFL insider Mike Sando from the athletic who
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  Speaker 2: lives right here among us in the great state of Washington. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he releases his NFL Quarterback Tiers, and the entire globe
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  Speaker 2: goes bonkers and joining us now to discuss his brand
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  Speaker 2: new list, fresh off the presses here this morning, is
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  Speaker 2: in fact, the author himself, Michael Sando.
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  Speaker 9: Hi, Mike, how are you doing. It's a great day.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great day. It's a great day. It's Tears day.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: It's Quarterback Tiers Day. All right. I'm gonna let you
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: explain this because I wouldn't do it nearly as well
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  Speaker 2: as you would. So why is your Quarterback Tiers list
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  Speaker 2: different than all the other lists that we've been reading
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: here for the last month from other publications, Lesser than publications.
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  Speaker 9: Lesser than yeah those listeh Vans. Yeah, well number one.
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  Speaker 10: I think it's the first quarterback tears, right, I mean,
• 51:55
  Speaker 10: you got the original, and then it's hard to do,
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  Speaker 10: you know, talk talking to fifty people that are coaches
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  Speaker 10: and executives in the league with the you know, I
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  Speaker 10: think I've got eight gms, five assistant gms, five former gms,
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  Speaker 10: a handful of better executives. I think there's nine head
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  Speaker 10: coaches this year, five offensive coordinators, ten defensive coordinators.
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  Speaker 9: Just having the trust with all of those.
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  Speaker 10: People and really, you know, able to get the unvarnished
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  Speaker 10: opinions and truths wasn't something that I could have done
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  Speaker 10: in you know, my first fifteen years of covering the
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  Speaker 10: league really, so it takes a lot of time and
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  Speaker 10: relationships to be able to do it, and I think
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  Speaker 10: it hopefully shows in the product that is differentiated from
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: you know, most of the stuff that's out there. Doesn't
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  Speaker 10: mean we're all going to agree with it, doesn't mean
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  Speaker 10: all those guys are right, but we do have a
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: criteria as well, and I think when you it's one
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: of the things that we stress about Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 10: voting is like if someone doesn't have a criteria for something,
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: then how good is the list?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 9: NFL one hundred lists, Okay, what's the criteria?
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  Speaker 10: I don't know, Wishman didn't make it any Yeah, sorry,
• 53:02
  Speaker 10: you know that type of stuff. And then the other
• 53:04
  Speaker 10: part that I think really separates it is everyone in
• 53:07
  Speaker 10: the league watches the quarterbacks. Like if I did this
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  Speaker 10: with you know, other positions or things, I think it's
• 53:15
  Speaker 10: harder to get the good results. I think quarterbacks really
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  Speaker 10: are something that everyone watches enough to have a good opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Now do they rank them an order like you end
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  Speaker 2: up doing, or did they just put them on teams?
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  Speaker 10: They just put the tier in. They'll tell me things
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  Speaker 10: like yeah, I think he's a low too or whatever.
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  Speaker 10: That doesn't really factor into the the math. You know,
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  Speaker 10: with fifty people, if he's a low two to someone,
• 53:37
  Speaker 10: he's going to be a high three to someone else
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  Speaker 10: and it'll all even out. So I average out those,
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: but no, everybody. We do him in alphabetical order by
• 53:44
  Speaker 10: the team. So we start with Atlanta in Arizona, and
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: if they're not ready to quit after doing Tua and
• 53:51
  Speaker 10: you know Panix and Jacoby Brissett and Gardner Minshew, then
• 53:54
  Speaker 10: they're good that we can do the rest of the
• 53:55
  Speaker 10: teams in alhabetic order.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Mike Sando is with us here, our NFL insider from
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the Athletic. His quarterback tiers are out, and it's time
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: to go over some of it. We don't want to
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: go through all of it. Yeah, want people to go
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: check it out and read it and get the insight
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  Speaker 2: from Mike. But I'll go ahead and ignore the local
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: quarterback to start the conversation. Let's go to that very
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: top tier where only four guys end up making it
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  Speaker 2: on the very top tier, and frankly, I'm a little
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: surprised that Patrick Mahomes is still number one. What about you.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, he's barely number one.
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  Speaker 10: He's got one Tier two vote forty nine and tier
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  Speaker 10: you know, Tier one, so it's only one way to
• 54:38
  Speaker 10: go is down basically. But yeah, I think it worked
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  Speaker 10: out good. Josh Allen Matthew Stafford two Tier two votes each.
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: I mean that's not many, but I like the order
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  Speaker 10: of Mahomes than Alan Stafford.
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  Speaker 9: Then Borrow.
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: I think you can make a case for Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 10: being there too. He was last year. He slipped to
• 54:53
  Speaker 10: the top of two, but as long as he's ahead
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: of the Justin Herberts of the world, I like it
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  Speaker 10: at the top. I think it's a good clean list.
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  Speaker 10: I feel like historically there's usually about four Tier one
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  Speaker 10: quarterbacks and then there's kind of a fifth or sixth
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  Speaker 10: guy sometimes who rotate in, you know, off of a
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  Speaker 10: great year, who are really Tier two over the course
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  Speaker 10: of their careers. So I like how it came out.
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  Speaker 10: I'm fine with Mahomes, you know, getting getting one tier
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  Speaker 10: two vote. I think if he got more than that,
• 55:19
  Speaker 10: I wouldn't have liked it as much, you know, if
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  Speaker 10: he was down below those guys.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned Lamar Jackson, and again I'm trying not
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to go through the entire list, but he can go
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: through a lot.
• 55:28
  Speaker 9: We just have to be off in another ten minutes.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: We can go through every one. He's just off the
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: top tier at number five, but then at number six
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: it's Justin Herbert. I think Justin Herbert is such an
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: interesting name to see at number six because the league
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and executives and coaches really seem to believe in this guy,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: and I do too. But the truth of the matter
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: is he's falling short. Whether it's because he's getting beat
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: up or because he can't stay healthy, or he's playing
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: with a cast and having to play one hand out
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  Speaker 2: on the football field, whatever the case may be. To me,
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  Speaker 2: just he's not producing like a top six quarterback in
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  Speaker 2: the National Football League. But it seems, Mike that everybody
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: believes he has the talent to do so.
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  Speaker 10: There's no question that he has a talent. I mean,
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  Speaker 10: just if you've ever watched him play, I mean, he's
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: huge and he can throw it well and he can
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: run it well, and you look at everything there and go, well,
• 56:22
  Speaker 10: there has to be a reason besides him that they're
• 56:24
  Speaker 10: not getting further right, And we've seen, you know, we've
• 56:27
  Speaker 10: seen shoot Peyton Mannings start of his career. He wasn't
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: killing it in the plass, but he had some MVP
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  Speaker 10: type years, right, I mean, had one of the greatest
• 56:34
  Speaker 10: seasons in the history of the league in two thousand
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  Speaker 10: and four. So I think that's what we're waiting to see.
• 56:38
  Speaker 10: And he's the highest ranked guy in this who got
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: votes in Tier three three people did Dingham there?
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  Speaker 2: You know.
• 56:44
  Speaker 10: I think the fear for him is he's taken so
• 56:46
  Speaker 10: many hits, is he going to is he going to
• 56:50
  Speaker 10: get a little gun shy?
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 56:52
  Speaker 10: Right, So I think this is a huge year for him.
• 56:55
  Speaker 10: I think they do have better weaponry. Obviously, Mike McDaniels
• 56:58
  Speaker 10: had success as a coordinator in the league. He's there now,
• 57:01
  Speaker 10: and so you know, for having this conversation next year
• 57:04
  Speaker 10: and he still hasn't done anything I expect him to have.
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  Speaker 9: I expect him to slide a little bit.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. I mean it's time and and yes,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I realize bad offensive lines and taking a beating. But
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: you know, I heard that throughout David Carr's career as well,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: and he was just a guy that couldn't get rid
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: of the football. You know, the bottom line, you just
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: couldn't get rid of the football. I don't care how
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: bad his offensive line was. And I'm getting to that
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: point where justin Herbert, you're kind of on the lip
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: of that. You either do it this year or I'm
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: just going to chalk you up as somebody that likes
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: to take a beating. Yeah.
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: Absolutely, Yeah.
• 57:37
  Speaker 10: If week one is what will probably happen is Week one,
• 57:40
  Speaker 10: his entire offensive line will retire or something, right, so
• 57:42
  Speaker 10: we'll never be able to get a clean, clean analysis
• 57:45
  Speaker 10: on this. I think that was one of the great
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: quotes in it was how long has he been in
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: the league now they've ever won a playoff game? I
• 57:51
  Speaker 10: get it, but like, if you're the guy at some
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: point I feel, you know, they've been stiffing around, you
• 57:54
  Speaker 10: should have more accolades at this point. And I totally,
• 57:57
  Speaker 10: I totally hear that. At the same time, I would
• 57:59
  Speaker 10: have a hard time giving him a three. You know,
• 58:02
  Speaker 10: I think he's probably a high tier two quarterback.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with it. Mike Sanda is with us, our
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: NFL insider, you could follow him. Matt Sando NFL. The
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six Quarterback Tiers t I e RS is live,
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  Speaker 2: It is out. We're breaking it down, all right, Let's
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: get to our guy, Sam Donald. We felt should have
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: silenced all of his critics. You've got him in tier
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: two or they have him in tier two, but he's
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: pretty close. He's a lot closer to Tier three than
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Tier one. Obviously, I don't agree with that. What are
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on Sam Donald here?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think he you know, he's definitely earned everybody's respect.
• 58:41
  Speaker 10: But let's not forget that. You know, they are a
• 58:43
  Speaker 10: team that had an amazing defense and special teams. Probably
• 58:47
  Speaker 10: they could arguably have the best defense of special teams
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: in the league. So when you have that, even Lamar
• 58:52
  Speaker 10: Jackson early in his career as a clear great talent,
• 58:55
  Speaker 10: you know you're not getting as much credit when you
• 58:57
  Speaker 10: win in those ways. And in the Super Bowl, they
• 59:00
  Speaker 10: didn't really need him to do a ton of but
• 59:01
  Speaker 10: they kind of it wasn't like they leaned into Sam Donald, right,
• 59:04
  Speaker 10: they kind of took the ball out of his hands
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  Speaker 10: and won it convincingly, but running the ball and playing
• 59:08
  Speaker 10: great defense. So I think people realize that if you
• 59:11
  Speaker 10: were to put it on him every week to really
• 59:13
  Speaker 10: spin it around and try to be the MVP, there'd
• 59:16
  Speaker 10: be limitations to that. It doesn't mean that he can't
• 59:19
  Speaker 10: do it when he needs to on occasion, you just
• 59:21
  Speaker 10: want to ask him. There's a whole or two in
• 59:23
  Speaker 10: his game, right, He's gonna probably turn it over a
• 59:26
  Speaker 10: little more. But when shoot NFC Championship game, he needed
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: a deal and he did. They're just not doing that
• 59:32
  Speaker 10: every week like the Rams, Harbis.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Stafford tied for fourteenth is where Sam Donald is on
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: that list, so behind Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Brock Purdy,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love, and many others. So that's where Sam Donald is.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: He haves some upward mobility. I mean, if it's the same,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: if he wins the same way this year with defense
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: and special teams and you go back to back, Oh yeah,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: does he still climb this list even though he still
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: has the same limitations. Potentially?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 10: I think he does, because right now he has eighteen
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 10: votes in Tier three and I think if you're you know,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: winning a Super Bowl and then do it again the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 10: next year. Not that he has to win the Super Bowl,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: but right let's just say playoff team, win a playoff
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: game type of a thing, and he has a good year.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: I think some of those people that were on the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 10: fans over you know, that terrible part of his career before,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 10: probably come off and give him his due in two
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: and he rises up. I think that's very much on
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 10: the table for him.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: I see Caleb Williams at eleven. I find that one
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: fascinating as well, because I know a lot of people
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: right now have him a lot higher than eleven for
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: some reason. Last year made them believers and obviously number
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: one overall, pick one of one an incredible talent here.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I'm curious what the input was from those that you interviewed.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: What was sort of the varying commentary when it came
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: to Caleb Williams and his growth. I thought one of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: the great quotes last year on him, and in the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: last year's quarterback tire says, I think he was in
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: tier three. This guy's either going to be a two
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: or a four real quick. People saw volatility in him,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: you know, and I think there was question marks of
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: how he would do with you know, by all accounts
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: a tough coach and Ben Johnson, but clearly he you know,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: was able to really make miraculous plays.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, he made some superstar plays last year. I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 10: think in the spotlight playoffs. Big games didn't necessarily have
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: you know, that consistency, and he may not because he's
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 10: going to hold the ball and run around, but he
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 10: dramatically reduced the number of sacks he took, I mean
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 10: just just slashed him even though he was still holding
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 10: the ball a long time. So I think he would
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 10: be higher in this if not only were the sacks down,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 10: but he was throwing on time, more in the rhythm
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 10: of the offense, and it looked a little bit more consistent.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 10: But you have to give him his due and his
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: ability to you know, go out and win the game,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 10: sometimes almost almost by himself in certain situations, in ways
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 10: making throws the other guy can't make. I mean that
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: one was against the Rams last year when he looks
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: like he was backpedaling and I don't know how he
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 10: lobbed it over the top. Yeah, it was like impossible,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 10: like and maybe in the history of the game, I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 10: don't know, did Elway ever do it?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 9: Like that. You know it was. It was unbelievable. It
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: was a one of one play.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 10: So I think that's why there's a little bit of
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 10: a you know, a little bit of a divide there,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 10: not just a more full throated endorsement and putting him
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 10: up there with Lamar Jackson at the top of your too.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. There's such a divide. I mean, if you
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: were going to go to a Jalen Hurts wedding, if
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: he was going to marry himself, there would be do
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: you want to sit on the side that thinks he's
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: overrated or do you want to sit on the side
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: that thinks he's underrated? Uh, all of the all of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: the he's underrated because he's got a championship ring. I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: mean they are convinced he's like a top five quarterback
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: because he won a championship out there. You question his credentials.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: But those that think he's overrated, man, they just don't
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: see a good quarterback at all who's a product of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: his environment. So he's right there on the list. He's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: barely in tear tier two. He almost slipped a tier three.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: What it was the commentary about Jalen Hurts status.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 10: Well, yes that you know, it fell off a little
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 10: bit around him last year and they still you know,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 10: they won eleven games, they still had a good record,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: but it wasn't like they were, you know, he was
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 10: getting over the top to win in the playoffs or
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 10: make a deep push. I think it's hard in these
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 10: situations when you have someone you know that there's some
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 10: limitations with Jalen Hurts, especially when when he has to
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 10: throw the ball. But they've won a Super Bowl, he's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 10: been the MVP. He can throw it over the top
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 10: with the best of them. I think he's not a
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 10: you know, consistent passer of the football without having a
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: great offensive line in a run game and having everything going.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 10: And by the way, they've had a great defense too,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 10: at least lately. So the feeling on Jalen Hurts says like,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 10: do you really think that, I mean, I know the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 10: Eagle's going to sign him to it. Are they going
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 10: to give him a raise on a big extension or
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 10: do you think maybe they have one eye on the horizon.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: I kind of feel like it could be the ladder, don't.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: You Yeah, I do, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: They acquired that first round pick in twenty twenty eight.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 9: Remember that.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 10: I was like when they did that, I was kind
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: of like, you know, I don't know how long has
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 10: Jalen Hurts their quarterback.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 9: That's kind of what I think.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Oh well, they got rid of a J Brown for him,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: so he better produced this year. He better be better
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: without that distraction this year. I know.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 10: But jeez, he's a perfect receiver for Jalen Hurts in
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 10: the ability to go you know, deep and make big
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: go snatch the football and all of that.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 9: So, you know, we'll see where they're at.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 10: I think they're in a little bit of a transition
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 10: period offensively, and if he plays well, he won't be
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 10: part of the transition, you know, if he meaning, they
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: won't transition him out of there eventually. But I think
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 10: for him to rise, you know, he's got to do
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 10: it more with us around him.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: You been doing this quarterback tiers thing for a while.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Have you seen anyone that more people were high on,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: like C. J. Stroud early in his career, that has
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: plummeted after this past season is far. I mean, you've
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: got him on tier number three and I would think
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: he's falling down the charts with the way that he
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: cused out twenty twenty five.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, somebody who really fell was Derek Carr.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: I think Derek Carr came in and had a little
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: bit of skepticism early, but then played well and showed
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: traits with his arm, and I think he rose pretty
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: high in the Tier two with some people thinking, oh,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: this guy could go to A one, and then we
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: sort of saw him kind of the exposed over the course.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 10: Now he had terrible situation with the Raiders. You know,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: the defense really fell off and he was gonna have
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 10: a harder time winning. But I think people just had
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 10: ambivalence about the way he played too, just a willingness
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: to stand in there, you know, and and some of
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 10: his leadership too. And so I think it's a big
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 10: year for Stroud on a very good team. It's won
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 10: a playoff game just about every year, I think, every
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 10: year he's been there. So I do think it's a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 10: really big year for him. And the key there, I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 10: think is I do think they've upgraded their offensive line,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 10: so I think I kind of think Stroud has a
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 10: better chance getting back into the bottom of two then
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: falling to the bottom of three after this year.
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  Speaker 2: Man, hey, I sure was a believer after that first season.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: But man, as that was about as painful a quarterback
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: performance as I think I've seen in the playoffs in
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: my entire lifetime, that most recently with c J. Stroud.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: So we'll see Michael Pennix junior. A lot of interest
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: in him, a lot invested in him here locally about
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: what kind of quarterback he's going to become. I thought
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: he was going to become a great quarterback in the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: National Football League, or at least a very good one,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: and yet here he is still not able to solidify
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: a starting job in the National Football League. So what's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: the overarching opinion of Michael Penni's junior quarter to your
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: executives and coaches.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 10: Well, I think number one durability injuries, that was an
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 10: issue coming out, and the number two he doesn't really
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 10: have that many pitches. He's kind of a fastball thrower,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: so you know, there's a lot of touch involved taking
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 10: known way to take the speed off and really being
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: able to kind of loft it in there when you
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 10: need to. And he just seems to be a guy
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 10: who throws fastball. So that look really impressive, but the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: consistency hasn't been there because of it, and now he's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 10: coming off of a you know, a major injury.
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  Speaker 2: All right, man, Well it's a great list as always.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time. I know you've
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: got a really busy morning, people pulling you in a
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: million different directions. So we'll let our audience pour over
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: the rest of it online and we will talk to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: you very soon.
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  Speaker 9: All right, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, job well done. All right, Mike Sando r NFL Insider.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Look at him, Look at him showing off with his
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: big quarterback tiers list and his time limitation.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he's already gone. Didn't even have time
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: to say by Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I got to get on. I got a lot of
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: people a lot more important than you, Powell. They want
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: to talk to me today. Basically, Oh if you heard
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: of this guy Ian forness, Yeah yeah, but the tears
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: are out, tears for fears, that's right. Patrick Malmes number one,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen number two, Matthew Stafford number three, Joe Burrow
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: number four. That's the top tier. Lamar Jackson no longer
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: on it. And I get that he did not play
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: well last year. He did not look good at all
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: last year, and then you got to go all the
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: way down to tied for fourteenth with Baker Mayfield to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: find the world champion Sam Darnold on the list, And
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: so I get it. I mean it's not I get
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: his argument. It's I just feel like this is a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: he's got to be closer to the top ten, top ten, right, Yeah,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: but fourteenth is a little low.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: Even other lists we've seen have put him low, and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: it shouldn't be surprising because everyone still thinks he hasn't
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: done anything.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: I think he's at least knocking on the door of
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: top ten. I put him in my top ten. I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: continuously think Dak Prescott gets overrated on these lists. But
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: he's got him at number fourteen, behind Jordan Love at
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: number ten, behind brock Party at number eleven. I guess
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: he was brock Perty's back cup. But then again, one
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: of them has a championship.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: Ring aim end of that.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you want to check it out, we
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  Speaker 2: urge you to do so. Always well done, always very thoughtful.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Mike Sando, you know pros pro, and he goes around
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: the league to fifty different executives and coaches and quizzes
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: them on their quarterback rankings and then creates his annual list,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: so check it out. You can follow Mike at Sando NFL.
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  Speaker 2: It'll lead you to all sorts of good stuff there
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: on his timeline, including the quarterback tiers which are fresh
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: hot off the presses here today. And we appreciate him
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: joining us. Coming up next on the radio program, it's
• 1:09:42
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  Speaker 4: That, and he really does. He really isn't much of
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  Speaker 4: He's not like a gardener. He's more of a oh that's.
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  Speaker 3: Got too many branches. I'm going to get out chainsaw.
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  Speaker 2: He's a trimmer.
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  Speaker 3: He's a trimmer.
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  Speaker 4: Big town everything can be fixed with some sort of
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  Speaker 4: saw apparatus.
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  Speaker 2: I've just sit in here thinking like, man, I could
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  Speaker 2: really use the Seahawks yard team, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have it at my house, but if I
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  Speaker 2: were sitting there at a house that had a big yard, man,
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  Speaker 2: that would be like the thing I think I'd save
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  Speaker 2: my money for to have just a team of five
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  Speaker 2: guys spend all morning making your making your yard look
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  Speaker 2: as beautiful as possible. And I mean they're going down
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  Speaker 2: to the every blade of grass. They'll just cut everything
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  Speaker 2: lake of grass for you.
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  Speaker 3: I take yeah, the Seahawks or the Mariners team either one.
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  Speaker 2: Then they have a couple of these like rumba things
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  Speaker 2: that go and they suck up all of the loose grass,
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  Speaker 2: so they just run out on the field the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: After the humans are done. It's like it's it's an
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  Speaker 2: AI operation around here to make this thing look as
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  Speaker 3: I love it. I'm jealous.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I am jealous, although actually I.
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  Speaker 3: Guess I have a bigger too, because then the golf
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  Speaker 3: course takes care of that part.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: I really get the best of all worlds.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, and they probably keep pretty good care of that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the ABC's of the MS
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  Speaker 2: and we start anew after all the deadline that's kind
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: of the end of the calendar year and of itself,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: so kind of feels like we're renewed now as we
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  Speaker 2: restart the ABC's of the MS, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: go a and that is for Anderson, Kate Anderson, because
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  Speaker 2: we are a step closer. Obviously, with the Castillo trade
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: of Kate Anderson being a part of this team, we
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: have felt they have told us with the Seattle Mariners
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  Speaker 2: that Kate Anderson will be part of this equation at
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  Speaker 2: some point this season as long as it seems feasible.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: In other words, you had to be in the race,
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  Speaker 2: which for a little while it felt like we weren't
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: going to be. I'm not sure they're going to use
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: them if we don't stay in the race, for example.
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  Speaker 2: But with Castillo being gone, he's obviously our sixth starter
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  Speaker 2: in our road at this point. If anything happens to
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: our top five guys, Ashley's knocking on her head right now,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: then Kate Anderson the first guy that is going to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: be added to that rotation. But obviously we want to
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  Speaker 2: keep those five guys healthy. We kept Kirby and Hancock
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  Speaker 2: for a reason, and so I still believe, and I've
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  Speaker 2: always felt it that Kate Anderson was going to play
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  Speaker 2: a role on this team. I nicknamed him the September
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: South Paul at the very beginning of the year because
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: I thought we would see him maybe in some critical
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: crucial situations going down the stretch. And now it's almost inevitable.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we have people saying that he has nothing
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: left to prove in the minor leagues. He is the
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  Speaker 2: number one rated prospect in the entire sport. He's not
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: giving up a run. I mean, he's pitching four nights
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  Speaker 2: every outing in Arkansas and he's not giving up any runs.
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  Speaker 2: And so I don't know. To me, he's got to
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: be like the third grader who has already mastered calculus
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: while the rest of the class is still working on
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: adding and subtracting. So Kate Anderson's gonna need for his
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: own sanity to be promoted and for the betterment of
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  Speaker 2: this team. And I'm sure they're trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: a role for him coming out of our pen, which
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: is why B is for bullpen. I'm not that concerned
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: about our bullpen like so many of you are out there.
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  Speaker 2: Our bullpen is the fourth best team ERA in the
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  Speaker 2: entire sport, and they've thrown the fewest innings. And I
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: know Bizardo's struggling right now, but Dominguez is here and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: that adds a little bit of depth to it. And
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  Speaker 2: I think Anderson's gonna be added to this team one
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  Speaker 2: way or the other before the end of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Plus you're gonna get Ryan Sloan potentially. We know Brash
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: is gonna come back as long as as rehab continues
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: to go. We haven't even seen Carlos Vargas this year,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: and Cooper Criswell cannot be forgotten about. So I think
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  Speaker 2: before the end of the season we're gonna have a
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  Speaker 2: dynamite bullpen, which is why I'm not that upset about
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: not adding to it yesterday. Would it have been nice, sure,
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  Speaker 2: I think it would have made everybody feel better, But
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  Speaker 2: I've never felt like this was some major primary need.
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  Speaker 2: The statistics don't show that. The evidence just isn't there
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  Speaker 2: that people should be, you know, standing on ledges because
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Jerry and Justin didn't add a second reliever at the
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  Speaker 2: trading deadline.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think a lot of people are like
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  Speaker 4: overly concerned by it. And we've had a lot of
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: people texting this morning, when will we see Caid? When
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: will we see Cad And they said something about, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they've got to change the way that they're pitching right
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  Speaker 4: because they're going right now every week once a week
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: I think for Sloan and Anderson and so Obviously they're
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: going to have to manipulate some things to get the
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  Speaker 4: guys ready if they're joining the bullpen, because that's different.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is a different experience, and obviously facing major
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  Speaker 2: league hitters is going to be different. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind at least from Anderson a week and
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  Speaker 2: Tacoma working at being a reliever and facing Triple A hitters.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Double A guys tend to be the
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  Speaker 2: most talented prospects in your organization, where the Triple A
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: guys seem to be the most like major leaguers. You're
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: gonna see a lot of like thirty year olds trying
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: to get back into the league down down at Triple A.
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  Speaker 2: But it is you are facing hitters who have faced
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  Speaker 2: a lot of hitters who have faced major league pitching
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  Speaker 2: which you have not faced at Double A Arkansas. And
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: so maybe, Kate Anderson, maybe you can kill two birds
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: with one stone. You get him operating out of the
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: bullpen at Triple A and also facing guys who have
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: seen major league pitching and see how he fares. Maybe
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: that's the last piece of this puzzle before he gets activated.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: I doubt that they're going to tournament. They're gonna unleash
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: him as a starter, considering that they kept Kirby and Hancock,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: But I don't rule that out either, uh, but I
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: think for sure he at least has to find a
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: role on this roster before the end of the regular season,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: and if it's September, if it's a September call up,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: it's a September call up. But we're not that far
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  Speaker 2: away from Kate Anderson contributing to this team.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited c is for Cal Cole and can Zone
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: because the lineup's gonna come out tonight, and I'm not
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: sure exactly how Dan and Jerry and Justin and they
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: will work on it together, just so everybody knows, so
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: nobody thinks Dan's a complete puppet. They will, I will
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: tell you right now. Justin and Jerry are gonna want
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: to have their say and on how it's lined out,
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  Speaker 2: But ultimately it is Dan's decision. They've all told me that,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: so it'll be curious to see how they do this.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: You have Donovan coming back, and yet Cole Young seems
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: to be flourishing in that leadoff spot. Cal of course,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: is the face of the franchise. And we know how
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: important he is down the stretch here to get back
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: to looking like Cal Raleigh again, and you'd like to
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: believe that he's your cleanup hitter in the new lineup
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: featuring Taylor Ward and Brenda Donovan returning, but with a
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: deeper lineup. Now mean I mean we're down to crunch time.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have to hit Cal lower in the lineup?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Does he have to drop all the way to maybe
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: seventh in the lineup to accommodate some of these new faces.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: And then you've got Tom who probably should be a
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: middle of the order hitter for us at this point,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: but it seems strange heading down the stretch that can
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Zone is our cleanup hitter and Cal is hitting seventh.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: But I think that might be what you see tonight.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Here's my mock up lineup for the new Mariners heading
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: down the season. I keep Cole Young hitting first. I
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: hit a Rose Arena second, I hit Julio third, I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: hit can Zone fourth, I put Taylor Ward fifth. I
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: like putting good on base guys in the five hole.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: And my reasons are that ideally your three and four
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: guys are cleaning up the bases, and so you might
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: be able to start anew with an on base guy.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: So I'm putting Ward fifth, Naylor sixth, Cow seventh, and
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: then Brendan Donovan because not only have we not seen
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: you for a while, but as soon as you were
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: ready to come off the injury list, you spent four
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: days with your wife and new kid, so you haven't
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: even really taken batting practice in four days. So I'm
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: not gonna put you at the top of the order
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: just yet. So I'll hit him eighth, and I'll hit
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Emerson ninth. That's a pretty damn good looking Nne up
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: right there, Ashley.
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  Speaker 4: I would think so, and I just, I mean, I
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: told you already. When I woke up this morning, my
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: first thought was all the Mariners played today, and I'm
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: so excited to see how this team looks with Brendan
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Donovan back, adding Taylor Ward, I just my optimism is
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: very high, and I hope this team can match it.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: There is no doubt that is a deeper lineup, and
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: we don't have a Yordan Alvarez in the middle of
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: our lineup like the Astros do, and he is single
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: handedly carrying them right now. But I would say one
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: through nine that is just a better looking lineup. And
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: I know what the statistics say, League, I know what
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: the statistics say, but I also believed in this lineup
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: from the beginning of the year and feel like it
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: is grossly underachieved. I mean, this is really gonna come
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: down to, not the trade deadline acquisitions the rest of
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: the way. It's gonna come down to whether Cal Raleigh,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Josh Naylor, and Julio Rodriguez, at least two of the
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: three step up and contribute mightily like they were supposed
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: to all season long, and we'll see all that unfolds. Finally,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Das four Detroit that's the opponent tonight. It's gonna be
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: an interesting one because the Tigers have obviously traded off
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: their face of their franchise, Trek Scuble. They sent the
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: message that they're not in it, even though they have
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: a very similar record to the Mariners, and they were
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: supposed to start Trek Scuble tonight. That was his time
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: in the rotation. We won't have to face him, I
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: know that for sure, but we might have to face
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: Troy Melton, who not only has had a better season
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: than Trek's scooble this year, he was tougher on us
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs last year than what Schooble was, So
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: we still are going to probably face a couple really
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: good pitchers in this series. And the last time the
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Tigers were told that we're not in it, they ended
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: up getting back in it and making the playoffs. So
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: this is no pushover tonight and for the next couple
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: of nights. Hopefully they're licking their wounds. Hopefully they're the
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: saddest team on the planet that Trek Scooble is no
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: longer a Tiger and they just cannot focus. Do you
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: declay I cannot focus on baseball? Hopefully that is the case,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: and we just run roughshot over a really sad, crying
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: team for the next three days. But my guess is
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: they're gonna have a little bit of nastiness to them
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: during this series.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they will. I don't think they'll be
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: as sad as we want.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: Them to be.
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  Speaker 3: But have you thought about this.
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  Speaker 2: He probably thought Polanka was still on the team. Everybody
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: knows Scooble doesn't keep up with current events.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: How are you, sir, Oh Chuck, You're such a schmoozer.
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  Speaker 11: I love, I always enjoy my nine am Tuesday morning
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 11: meetings with you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, God good. I look forward to it myself. And
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: we got a lot to discuss today. First of all,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: what's it like to face a trading deadline as a
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: major leaguer, whether you're worried you're going to be traded
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: or a teammate's going to be traded. Take us through
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: the emotions leading up to that window and throughout it.
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  Speaker 11: It's a whirlwind, and I felt it yesterday. Just even
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 11: in the last hour. I had a call from two
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 11: o'clock to three o'clock Pacific Saner time here, and I
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 11: had to put my phone away and turn the do
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 11: not disturb on because I was just urged to want
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 11: to scroll my phone and see what the trades were
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 11: being executed at the end during that last hour. But
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 11: I was never really in trade conversations. Maybe a little
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 11: bit in eighteen nineteen when more eighteen actually, when there
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 11: was a little bit of uncertainty with that roster and
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 11: the adjustments that were inevitably going to happen that offseason.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 11: I remember more as a player of desiring a specific
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 11: role on a team, like, man, this team really needs
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 11: a starting pitcher. I would love to see a starting pitcher.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 11: And then all of a sudden, you get like an
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 11: outfielder and a reliever walk in the door. You're like,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 11: that's not what I thought we needed. I guess I'm
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 11: also not the GM, so it's not my job. It's
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 11: I think nowadays like these players. I was thinking about
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 11: Emerson Hancock this morning, the whirlwind that he's had this
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 11: twenty twenty six season, and then to see his name
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 11: in the front line of what this trade conversation look like,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 11: how available, you know everyone was saying he was. I'm
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 11: wondering emotionally, how he's feeling waken up today knowing it's
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 11: over and that he is a part of this team
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 11: not just for this season but for the future as well.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can feelings be hurt that way even if you stay.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: Have you seen teammates like they tried to trade me,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: or they at least considered trading me. Why did I
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: have to have three interviews last week about how I
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: felt about being in trade rumors? Does that linger even
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: after the deadline is over? Is that something to be
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: worried about here?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 11: I wouldn't say it's something to be worried about, but
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 11: it's certainly something that has lingered. And there's examples, and
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 11: there's two examples that can really break the trust between
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 11: a front office and a player. It's arbitration when you
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 11: kind of hear all the negative things about you, and
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 11: then it's the trading deadline. So when your name gets
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 11: circulated year after year, I think the way the teams
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 11: mitigate this is obviously by communicating with their players ahead
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 11: of time. I think there's some teams out there that
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 11: do a really great job of it, and then also
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 11: after the fact, communicating with the players. So now the
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 11: deadline done, having a conversation with guys like Emerson Hancock like, Hey,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 11: I know your name was in the market, but we
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 11: really feel like your value is here. And if that's
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 11: like if I hear that from the front office as
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 11: a player's perspective, I'm like, oh wow, Like they didn't
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 11: want to get rid of me, Like they would have
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 11: done it if they needed to, because this is a
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 11: business I understand that. And when you come up with
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 11: an organization, you really want the best for them, Like
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 11: you're rooting for not just the major league team, but
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 11: every player within the org, and you want them to succeed.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 11: There's emotions that are kind of mixed up when all
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 11: of a sudden the business side of this game is
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 11: thrown in your face and burst that bubble, and now
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 11: you have to start thinking about things a little bit differently.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: Well, and then one last question about like the subject
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: of the emotions of it and its effect on the clubhouse,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: because I was listening to Sunday Night Baseball and all
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: the players were in agreement from Oral Hirshats or the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw too, I think lou Marloney was in the
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: booth with them, and they were all describing how what
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: a boost it is for it to see the front
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: office add at the trading deadline, even if it does
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: cost you a friend or two in the process. Taylor
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Ward walking into the Mariners clubhouse, what kind of a
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: greeting is he going to get here tonight?
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  Speaker 11: A lot of familiar familiarity with this organization and I
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 11: thought the AL West as well. What I'm thinking, obviously
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 11: he's not contracted through this season from at least what
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 11: I looked up and saw, but he knows Taylor Ward
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 11: knows the AL West so well and it's had so
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 11: much success, and a lot of the initial reactions from
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 11: fans and media was Taylor Ward's not the same player
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 11: this year as he was last year when he hit
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 11: thirty six some odd home runs. He's just not that
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 11: same guy. I think that was intentional though. I think
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 11: it was intentional for the Mariners to go get that
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 11: player that actually in Justin Hollander's word was churn the
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 11: on base skills and keep the lineup moving and put
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 11: a little bit more pressure on starting pitchers. How many
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 11: innings have you watched this your chuck when it's just
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 11: like a seven to nine pitch inning and like it's
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 11: the quickest bottom half of.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: The inning in the world, and you're like, what just
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: happened right there?
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 11: Like the pace of play all of a sudden was
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 11: through the roof because it's just weak contact put in
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 11: player or a three pitch strikeout. I think Taylor Ward
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 11: can be someone that breaks that cycle within this lineup.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 11: And I also believe that Brendan Donod when he comes back,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 11: he's a guy that can break down and maybe those
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 11: disruptions to an opposing starting pitcher is something that can
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 11: can spark this offense and maybe those solo home runs
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 11: turn into two or three run home runs and then
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 11: Mariners can go on a run.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ward definitely embodies in one player someone that can
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: address the two major weaknesses. We don't have enough guys
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: getting on base, and we don't have enough guys that
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: can hit left handed pitching. And he's done both of
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: those things to an extraordinary degree, especially the on base
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: part of it. But I would just ask you how
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  Speaker 2: difficult that is that you've been a home run hitter
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: at the major league level through your age thirty one season,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, on a one year
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: deal with the Orioles, you worked in the offseason on
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: becoming an on base guy and a contact hitter. I mean,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: how difficult is that to be a thirty six homer
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: guy one year and then the next year you're a
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: three to eighty on base guy. You've improved that skill set,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: even at the sacrifice of the power that you had
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: on display the previous two years.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: It can go one of two ways.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 11: One like, the ego gets involved, because if your value
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 11: has been driving the ball out of the ballpark and
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 11: then you're not able to do it, you almost feel
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 11: like you're less than. But also we're not certain what
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 11: Taylor Ward's intentions were for this offseason adjustment. So he
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 11: was stepping into the season, what were his personal goals,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 11: What were adjustments he wanted to make in the game.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 11: What were things that he learned, you know, throughout you know,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 11: the transition from one organization to another one that gave
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 11: him more information. Maybe what did he learn that He's like,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 11: maybe the league or teams are valuing this piece more
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 11: than the home runs. Like if I'm hitting thirty six
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 11: home runs driving in one hundred, maybe that's not you know,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 11: the direction the game is going. I think home runs
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 11: in and run production is always valuable. But if my
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 11: on base percentages is terrible, I'm making more outsend the
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 11: guy next to me. And if he hits fifteen home
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 11: runs and I hit thirty six, but he gets on
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 11: base more than me, the game is valuating that player more.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 11: So he's trying to make an adjustment, But sacrificing some
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 11: of the power. I think that power actually spikes a
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 11: little bit the last two months. Not the Mariners need
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 11: that are looking for it, but putting him back into
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 11: a division where he's very familiar with the opposing pitchers, starters,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 11: and relievers. I think you'll see a power search here
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 11: in the next two months for Taylor Ward.
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  Speaker 2: Could you have done it? Somebody came to you and said, Ryan,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: we really want you to sacrifice some power. Come back
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: next year as an on base machine. What would your
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: response have been?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: I tried, I listen.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 11: I worked endlessly the last couple of years of my
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 11: career because I saw the transition that the game was making.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 6: They were no longer valuing a.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 11: First base DH that could hit twenty five but struck
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 11: out a lot and didn't walk much. I've said this
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 11: the last two to three years of my career. While
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 11: I was overseas playing winter ball in Mexico, my Achilles heels,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 11: I couldn't walk, and if I didn't learn how to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 11: walk more than my opportunities in the game were going
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 11: to be gone. And that's essentially what happened, because when
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 11: I tried to walk more, I lost the power. Now
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 11: I had zero value to add to a lineup, and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 11: that's a really hard thing to swallow as a hitter.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Ryan Heally is with us a former Mariner, and of
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: course so with Mariners TV. Every Tuesday at nine, thanks
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: to e QC and Dino's Pub, we get our chance
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: to chat with Ryan about Mariners baseball. We're coming off
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: the trading deadline and the Mariners did make some moves
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: adding Taylor Ward that we've discussed. Ryan also mentioned Brendan
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Donovan coming back probably tonight. I would assume tonight. What
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: a nice boost that is to just add Brendan Donovan
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: and Taylor Ward to your lineup. I mean, I've just
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: mocked something up. I have no idea if this will
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: be the lineup, but you tell me if this doesn't
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: sound like a playoff caliber lineup. Cole Young, Randy a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: Rose Arena, Julio Rodriguez, dom Canzone, Taylor War, Josh Naylor,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: how Raleigh, Brendan Donovan and Colt Emerson. I mean, how full?
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: I know how bad they've been offensively, the numbers bear
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: that out, but how full? How promising does that lineup
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: sound to you?
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 11: It honestly sounds tremendous, and I part of my feeling
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 11: after this deadline was that the Mariners were willing to
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 11: explore any opportunities of trading Randy, trading George Kirby, trading Hancock,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 11: like they were willing to do whatever it took to
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 11: make this team better. But once they were able to
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 11: offload Luis Castillo, I think the runway became clear of
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 11: our solutions are already in house, and they're probably on
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 11: the injured list right now or they're underperforming. So the
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 11: players that we've already committed to need to get better,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 11: like that's not a negotiable right now for this team,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 11: and also the players that are going to give this
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 11: team a jolt just coming back from the injured list.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 11: I mocked something up similarly, Chuck, but it was more
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 11: for a bullpen, a full, healthy bullpen. It looks like
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 11: Sir Anthony Domingaz, Jose Ferreir Gabespyer, Matt Brash, Bizardo, Andres
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 11: Munos and then you have Cooper, Chris Well and Carlos Vargas.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 11: Does that sound like a playoff contender bullpen to you?
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: It does. Now add Kate Anderson potentially to it, and
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: maybe even Ryan Stingo.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: That's what we're talking about. And there's the option on
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: there of those two guys.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 11: And that's why I felt like what the market was
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 11: requesting for a high leverage arm If you saw the
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 11: Mason Miller request was they wanted Kate Anderson. They're like, no,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 11: thank you, that's that's uh, I understand it, but no,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 11: we're not that desperate. I think if you make the
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 11: addition of Kate or Ryan Sloan to come join this
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 11: major league bullpen, WHOA, you're talking about some electricity coming through,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 11: not just for stuff wise, but also just fan engagement
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 11: and energy.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: And if you make the playoffs add Emerson Hancock to
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: that group, I did not really feel like I mean,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: I would have liked to have seen another bullpen piece,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: but there are a lot of people that believe you
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: had to add something more. To Sir Anthony Demingez, I'm
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: not in that camp, and it doesn't sound like you
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: are either.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 11: I think Sir Anthony Diminga's fulfills the void that Carlos
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 11: Vargas has been has left kind of blank all season long.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 11: Like Vargas has electric stuff and has always done a
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 11: good job filling in that awkward like you know, six
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 11: maybe seventh inning, where he can come in and shut
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 11: the door in transition to the back end of the bullpen.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 11: I think Sir Anthony Dominga steps into that role with
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 11: the opportunity to earn higher leverage spots like a like
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 11: a Ferrare has with his success. I think the quality
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 11: of stuff, the experience that Dimingas brings is gonna be
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 11: really good. We know what the negatives are with the
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 11: walks and not gonna hide away from that, but I
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 11: think the upside and what the skill set of development
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 11: within this Maritor's organization is of strike throwing. That's a
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 11: picture of reliever that could really benefit from being with
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 11: the Marators overall.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Do you also agree that this is gonna come down
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: to your best three players, Cal, Julio and Josh at
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: least a couple of them returning to the form we expected.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Is that gonna be the difference or do you think
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: they don't even have to that there's enough here starting
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: pitching wise, the bullpen. You just went through the additions
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: of war Donovan returning that even if those three guys
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: don't step up and perform like we know they're capable
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: of that this team will still end up winning this division.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 11: I think Cal and I think Julia would tell you
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 11: to your face that they both need to do more.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 11: I don't think they're hiding from that fact. I would
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 11: say those two out of the three that you just named.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 11: I think Naylor has had multiple jolts throughout the course
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 11: of the season where you see spurts and road trips
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 11: and you know, maybe even a week or two stretches,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 11: We're like, that's a that's a threat right there. And
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 11: he's made some really hard contact over the last week.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 11: You saw what he can do on the base pass
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 11: with his first a third deacon, the centerfielder, and that
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 11: Sunday walk off as well. I think Josh has fulfilled
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 11: his role overall. I don't think he was ever meant
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 11: to be the face of this team. He was supposed
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 11: to be a role player that did his job, and
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 11: I think he's done that. Could he hit for more power, sure,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 11: but I'd also know he's dealt with some adversity and
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 11: different things that have gone on. I look more at
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 11: Julio and cow to say, if you guys can match
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: what Naylor has done of giving us a hot week
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: here and there. I think there's enough depth in this lineup,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 11: and I think depth that's coming where you know the
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 11: churn is going to start to happen. The quality innings
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 11: that put up crooked numbers, it's gonna start to happen.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 11: And I think that is a missing link that this
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 11: Marrinerstye needs desperately for the last few weeks or months
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 11: of the season.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: Do you think the return of the five man and
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: being out from underneath piggybacking and six man and who
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: should go where and what should happen there? Do you
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: think that that is going to be a huge benefit
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  Speaker 2: to this group.
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  Speaker 11: It removes some uncertainty that each one of the starting
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 11: pitchers have faced. It provides the routine and the normality
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 11: back to what they're used to being. I know the
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 11: presence of Luis Castill will be missed. If you listen
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 11: to Logan Gilbert talk about the impact that Louis has
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 11: had on his personal career. I think Logan said there
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 11: was one year in the big leagues that he was
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 11: up where Luise wasn't there. So you talk about a
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 11: mentor that has really guided him and nurtured him throughout
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 11: his success and everything he's done. The impact there will
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 11: be missed. But I also believe it's an opportunity for
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 11: one of those pictures to step up and be that leader,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 11: take the lessons that Luis has taught him, and be
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 11: able to now share that with the rest, maybe become
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 11: the rock for you know, the rest of this staff
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  Speaker 11: and be that voice of reason and certainty. It's a
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 11: tremendous opportunity for a new leader to arise in that
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  Speaker 11: starting rotation. So I'm excited to see who really takes
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  Speaker 11: that on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Ryan Heally is with us Joints every Tuesday
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: at nine o'clock former Marena to talk a little Mariner baseball.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of want to tap back into this because
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: I'm curious your thoughts within the division. Something that you
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: said a little bit earlier in the conversation when you
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: know you need this and then come walking through the
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: doors at trade deadline, is something that you didn't think
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: you really needed. The Astros sort of embody that they
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: need starting pitching, and they traded a starting pitcher for
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: a good player in Dalton var Show, but they didn't
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: really address their needs where I felt as many people
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: that thought that the Mariners didn't go far enough at
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: the trade deadline, they at least addressed their biggest need
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: and they added two pieces to the roster where the
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: Astros really didn't. And then you have the Rangers situation
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: where the Rangers tried to trade all of their veterans
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: and all that their veterans said, screw you, We're gonna
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: use our no trade clauses. I'm curious as to what
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: kind of effect that's gonna have on the two teams
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: that we're in this race with. Will it actually provide
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: some sort of a boost to the Rangers that all
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: of their veterans told the front office to, you know,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: screw off. Will Will it hurt the Astros that their
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: front office didn't seem to step up for them. What
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: is what's your take on that? Or am I making
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: too big a deal out of the emotions in the clubhouse?
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: And this is just gonna come down to talent.
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  Speaker 11: No, I think you're you're close enough to what the
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 11: truth could be. A lot of this is speculation anyways,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 11: You and I aren't in the Rangers of the Astros,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 11: you know, clubhouses asking these questions, So a lot of
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 11: the speculation. I know enough about the Rangers of what
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 11: happens behind the scenes there between the front office and
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 11: the players and the coaching staff in the front office,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 11: to have a decent grasp on what that dynamic looks like.
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  Speaker 6: I think it could affect them.
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  Speaker 11: I'm sure a lot of those veterans are like, no, dude,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 11: Like I waived my no trade clause to conk here,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 11: I brought my family. I settle in a little bit like,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 11: you're not You're not shipping me out again, because all
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 11: of a sudden we lost the series moving the Rangers.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 11: They lost the series of the Astros in You're not
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 11: just gonna sell the farm all of a sudden luxury
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 11: for them to have that ability to say no, because
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 11: how many players don't. So I'm curious how that affects
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 11: the Rangers. The Astros, I think are they're operating with
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 11: a level of confidence that they haven't had and probably
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 11: a year and a half, I would say, and I
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 11: think that's a danger to the Al West and just
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 11: the competition. But I didn't think the Mariners were going
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 11: to roll through this Al West easily. There was always
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 11: gonna be someone that was going to pope the bear
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 11: a little bit. The Rangers were that for a while.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 11: The Astros all of a sudden showed up. The A's
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 11: were that for a while and then they fell off.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 11: I think there's some big series. I think that I
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 11: know there's some big series coming up up against the Astros.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 11: I'll be up there in September for the one against
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 11: the Rangers. That's an opportunity for, you know, the Mariners
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 11: to right the wrongs that the Rangers have done to
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 11: them this season. So there's still a lot of big
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 11: games coming then. The secret for the Mariners is handle
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 11: your division and go on a type of run that
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 11: you did last September when they went seventeen to eight
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 11: and finished that season with so much momentum that carried
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 11: into the playoffs. For me, it's way more about keeping
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 11: yourselves close enough in August so you can go on
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 11: that run in September and use that momentum to catapult
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 11: you through what the playoffs could look like.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on what the Dodgers have done to Major
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: League Baseball, whether that's good or bad. They pretty much
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: are going to be used by MLB as the example
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: for why we need a salary cap. The Dodgers and
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: what they've done the last three years, the way they've spent,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: the way they've deferred money, the way that nothing seems
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: to be beyond their limits when so many other teams
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: are so financially limited with what they can spend. Baseball's
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: going to use that to try to get a salary
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: cap this offseason in the new collective bargaining agreement. I'm
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: curious what a former Major leaguer who knows how strong
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: the players Association is, what your opinion is on that
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: entire ordeal.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 11: You know what's interesting to me, Chuck, is I think
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 11: both sides is going to use it to their advantage,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 11: meaning the owners are going to use it their advantage,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 11: and then the players can use their advantage because the
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 11: players are going to say, this is what should be happening,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 11: this is what more teams should be doing, and the
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 11: owners are going to say, well, we can't afford to
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 11: do that, and I think you know how that conversation
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 11: goes back and forth.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, Like, we're not going to break
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: around here.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 11: I'm really interested to see what the effects are when
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 11: December first comes around, and then how that affects next season.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 11: And I think that's more motivation for me personally, Chuck
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 11: to just stay present and enjoy this season because we
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 11: don't know what's coming. When it comes to the Dodgers,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 11: there are so many organizations that want to operate the
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 11: way that they do, and a lot of organizations higher
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 11: from that organization in the Dodgers, and they'll take anyone
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 11: they can and player development, in the medical side, in
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 11: the front office side, and they'll promote them and pay
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 11: them more because they want to figure out the little
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 11: things that Dodgers do. It's not just the spending that
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 11: the Dodgers do. They do all the little things so
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 11: much better than everyone else. And I think that's a
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 11: true separator, which now makes the players that will make
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 11: more money want to come there because A they can
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 11: afford to pay them, and B they know they're going
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 11: to get the best information and care taken of them
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 11: and their families. That stuff matters to players, and that's
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 11: why they're gonna use it to their advantage when the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 11: CBA does come up.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the deferred payments. I mean, you already
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: have advantages, and now you're just going to spend monopoly
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: money I guess on free agents right now.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 11: And then if the mayors had that TV deal, they
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 11: would like if if any other team had that type
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 11: of TV deal and other promotions that they were able
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 11: to make not just stateside but internationally with the talent
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 11: they've signed, like, they would spend that money as well.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: But would they have as much to spend.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 11: That's where I think demographic matters a lot, like your location.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 11: Listen to the Yankees went on World Series runs doing
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 11: this same exact process, like it's been done before, We've
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 11: seen it.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: But that's the funniest part about all of this. Even
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: Yankee fans are crying that their owners don't spend enough money, Well,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: we gotta be more like the Dodgers. This is not fair.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: We have cheap owners. When Yankee fans are complaining about it,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: we might have a problem with customer relations. That if
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: nine out of ten baseball fans think our owner's cheap,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: we don't have a chance. That's not exactly the best
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: public relations for the sport.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 11: No, but I can't really think of a time when
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 11: the relationship between the owners and the fans were.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 6: At the highest.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 11: I don't that's not the product that the owners aren't
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 11: going on the field and playing the games like that
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 11: the fans are meant to fall in love with the team.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 6: That's that's the whole purpose of this.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see where it goes from here, but let's
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: put it this way. I'm written against the Dodgers, but
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: then again, I have been now for a number of years.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: So that's am I going to see you Friday? By
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 6: the way?
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: Uh oh, you are in town Friday? Is that right? Request? Okay?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm gonna. I will try, yeah, for sure,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: try all right?
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 6: Yea, what do you mean try?
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: You're catching me. I've got I don't even know if
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: I have any schedule. I don't think I have any flicks.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: I'll see you, I'll see you, I'll see you.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 7: Yea.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 11: I need you there, I need you. I need you
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 11: rooting for me instead of Bucky on Friday night.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, it's home run Derby Friday.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 11: Alright, wake up, it's dirty week, the biggest week of
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 11: my life.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm you know what. I'm just drunk with the
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: trade deadline hangover at this point, I wasn't even thinking
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: about this weekend. Are you ready to go? Well? I mean,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: how much time have you spent in the cage?
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 11: Quite a bit I'm gonna hit tonight as well. I mean, listen,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 11: I'm hitting balls one ten plus like the body hasn't
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 11: broken yet. I told you I have two goals for Friday.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 11: I can't get skunked and I don't want to blow out.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 11: If I can execute those two things, I'll be happy.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: What's gonna win it? Though? Where do you get ten pitches?
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Like four is gonna win it? Right?
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 6: I think we get like two minutes straight to hit.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 11: That's the biggest thing I'm worried about is it's like
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 11: I got two minutes straight up hitting.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 6: I don't know if my cardio is built up for
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 6: that enough.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 11: So I'm gonna need like pearl big league baseballs and
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 11: some good big league wood to be able to sneak
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 11: some over into two. Edgar's over there in left field line.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: It's usually someone's kid. Do you just want like some
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: old man broadcaster bringing you your gatorade and your towel
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: for you on Friday?
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know my wife is gonna be there. I
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 6: might ask her to do instead.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: Good choice, good strategy, good strategy. There. You're winning this
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: thing going away. Your only competition is eachio. That's it.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 6: It's Stephan America.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: Cameron's still pretty well put together though. Oh yes, Stefan
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: Romero too. Okay, America swing, okay, all right, all right,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: well we'll be rooting for you. How about that.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: I will see you Friday or I won't see you
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 6: next Tuesday. Okay? Is that fair?
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: Al Right? Okay, now that you negotiated.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: You just put that.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: That's all right, man, We'll talk to you later. All right,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: see you guys. All right, Ryan Healy joining us right
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: here on the program. Yeah, buck, He's not going to
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: be happy that we're rooting for Ryan. Then again, Ryan
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: contributes more to the show now, so here you go.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: That's just business.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: Hey, he's a teammate Emerald Quick Casino, Dino's pub and
• 1:46:21
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• 1:46:25
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• 1:46:27
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• 1:46:30
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