Latest / Speaking 4 Profit Podcast / Mastering Influence as an Entrepreneur with Asa Leveaux
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- 0:00So for the
- 0:00longest time, I
- 0:01fought the idea
- 0:03of team because
- 0:06I took pleasure
- 0:09in overwhelming
- 0:10my clients with
- 0:12my own acumen.
- 0:20Welcome to the
- 0:21Speaking 4
- 0:22Profit podcast,
- 0:23where we talk
- 0:23about how to
- 0:24monetize your
- 0:24message and
- 0:25how to uplevel
- 0:26your income.
- 0:27I'm really
- 0:28looking forward
- 0:28to today's
- 0:29conversation
- 0:30with Asa Leveaux.
- 0:31We're going to
- 0:31talk a little bit
- 0:32about branding
- 0:33and how you
- 0:34yourself can
- 0:34become an icon.
- 0:36If you are
- 0:37listening now,
- 0:37then go on
- 0:38and subscribe.
- 0:39And if you're
- 0:40watching, go on
- 0:41and like, and
- 0:42subscribe here
- 0:42on YouTube.
- 0:43We're just really
- 0:44excited to have
- 0:44you using your
- 0:45most valuable
- 0:46resource with
- 0:46us, which is
- 0:47your time.
- 0:48And as we know,
- 0:48we can't get
- 0:49that back.
- 0:50So let's get
- 0:50into today's
- 0:51conversation.
- 0:52Welcome
- 0:53to the stage,
- 0:54Asa Leveaux
- 0:54How are you?
- 0:56I am great today.
- 0:58How are
- 0:58you doing?
- 1:00I'm good.
- 1:01You know, I
- 1:01was reading
- 1:01over your, your
- 1:02biofam and.
- 1:04Number one, black
- 1:05don't crack.
- 1:06I just want
- 1:06to say that as
- 1:07we start the
- 1:07conversation.
- 1:09But I was,
- 1:09I was loving
- 1:10that, you know,
- 1:11you have such an
- 1:12amazing journey
- 1:12from, from
- 1:13being a veteran
- 1:14to doing some
- 1:16pastor work, to
- 1:17supporting with
- 1:17some amazing
- 1:18brands around
- 1:19the world.
- 1:20And,
- 1:20and that's
- 1:21great, right?
- 1:21That's great.
- 1:22That's the
- 1:22branding.
- 1:23But what I
- 1:24always like
- 1:24to start these
- 1:25conversations
- 1:25off with is like,
- 1:26what's bringing
- 1:27you joy today?
- 1:29And what's
- 1:29keeping you
- 1:29joyful in
- 1:30your business?
- 1:31That's a podcast
- 1:32question.
- 1:33That's a good
- 1:33question.
- 1:34What's bringing
- 1:35me joy today?
- 1:37One thing that's
- 1:37bringing me joy
- 1:38in this moment
- 1:39is the gratitude
- 1:40of me still
- 1:42being here.
- 1:43Like, I'm
- 1:45still here.
- 1:47Yes.
- 1:47And if I think
- 1:48about it long
- 1:48enough, I'll
- 1:49start crying.
- 1:50Like I'm, I'm
- 1:52still here.
- 1:52Like there's
- 1:53definitely, if
- 1:54you ever, those
- 1:55of you who've
- 1:55seen the New
- 1:56Color Purple,
- 1:57movie,
- 1:59that's a musical,
- 2:00there's a part in
- 2:02there when Celie
- 2:02talks about still
- 2:03being here, but
- 2:04she's singing it.
- 2:05And I, I resonate
- 2:06with that a lot
- 2:08in this moment.
- 2:09Recently
- 2:11thinking about.
- 2:12What I've had
- 2:13to do to get
- 2:14here, what it's
- 2:15taking to stay
- 2:16here and just the
- 2:18different things,
- 2:19because it's not
- 2:20all branding.
- 2:21It's, it's those
- 2:22moments when
- 2:23you're like,
- 2:23I don't even
- 2:24know how to get
- 2:24out of this.
- 2:25Like, how do I
- 2:26get out of this?
- 2:30And yeah, and
- 2:31I'm still here.
- 2:31So the joy is in
- 2:32the gratitude.
- 2:35I love that
- 2:35so much.
- 2:36I was, I was
- 2:36recently on a
- 2:37coaching call
- 2:38being coached,
- 2:39not being the
- 2:39coach, which
- 2:40is always a
- 2:41beautiful moment.
- 2:41And, and one of
- 2:42my colleagues
- 2:43said that.
- 2:44When she started
- 2:45this year,
- 2:45she had to
- 2:46have a factory
- 2:47reset, right?
- 2:48And I've been
- 2:49really sitting
- 2:49with that process
- 2:50of like, what
- 2:51does it mean to
- 2:52reset something?
- 2:53And I feel like
- 2:54that's what
- 2:54you're speaking
- 2:54to as, as
- 2:55business owners,
- 2:56as entrepreneurs,
- 2:57we have to
- 2:58reset in order
- 2:59to be able to
- 2:59get clarity.
- 3:00But also to be
- 3:01able to be in
- 3:01joy because we
- 3:02got branding, we
- 3:03got marketing,
- 3:04we got pay
- 3:05people, we got
- 3:05pay ourselves,
- 3:06we got taxes,
- 3:07we, you know,
- 3:08there's just so
- 3:08many things that
- 3:09come in between
- 3:11us and sometimes
- 3:12the joy factor
- 3:13and the reasons
- 3:13that we started
- 3:14our brand.
- 3:15So.
- 3:15Let's talk a
- 3:16little bit about
- 3:16your brand,
- 3:17because, you
- 3:17know, to be
- 3:18transparent with
- 3:19you, fam, the
- 3:19reason I invited
- 3:20you here was
- 3:21because I've
- 3:21seen your brand,
- 3:21and I was like,
- 3:22this is powerful,
- 3:23like, just
- 3:24the fact that
- 3:24you're calling
- 3:25people icons,
- 3:28and many of the
- 3:28people probably
- 3:29don't even see
- 3:31themselves,
- 3:31right, as, as
- 3:33business owners
- 3:33yet, right?
- 3:34Like, it's just,
- 3:34it's just a call
- 3:35to action just
- 3:36in the name.
- 3:37So, tell our
- 3:38audience a little
- 3:39bit about, number
- 3:40one, how you
- 3:40started working
- 3:41with creators,
- 3:43How'd you start
- 3:43working with
- 3:44your number one
- 3:44creator, which is
- 3:45yourself, right?
- 3:46Like, how did
- 3:46you come up
- 3:47with, with
- 3:47this particular
- 3:48name, branding?
- 3:49Take us down
- 3:49the journey.
- 3:51Okay.
- 3:51So I will
- 3:52do this.
- 3:52I'll be mindful
- 3:53of time as I take
- 3:55you out through
- 3:55the journey of
- 3:55how to do it.
- 3:57Okay.
- 3:57So let's
- 3:59rewind over
- 4:01a decade ago.
- 4:02I had came out
- 4:03with two books
- 4:05and those two
- 4:05books are very,
- 4:06one is very
- 4:07controversial,
- 4:08even though the
- 4:08contents are not
- 4:09just the title.
- 4:11And then I
- 4:11came and so two
- 4:12books came out.
- 4:14I.
- 4:14I was introduced
- 4:16to a person at
- 4:17that time who was
- 4:17here in Oklahoma
- 4:18City, her name
- 4:19is April Franks.
- 4:21And she's like,
- 4:23so people keep
- 4:23talking about
- 4:24we need to get
- 4:24together because
- 4:25we are the only
- 4:26two black people
- 4:26in Oklahoma City
- 4:27who have written
- 4:27books recently.
- 4:29And so we did,
- 4:30and then about
- 4:31three months
- 4:31later she said,
- 4:32you know what,
- 4:33you should
- 4:34come with me
- 4:34to Lisa Nichols
- 4:35conference.
- 4:37I'm like, well,
- 4:37who was Lisa
- 4:38Nichols when
- 4:39this is 2013?
- 4:41And she says, you
- 4:42know, the secret.
- 4:43I said, I don't
- 4:44know anything
- 4:44about the secret.
- 4:45She said, well,
- 4:46she's the only
- 4:47black woman
- 4:47in the book
- 4:48and the movie.
- 4:49So I looked it
- 4:50up and I was
- 4:50like, okay,
- 4:51well, she's doing
- 4:51a conference.
- 4:52I went to the
- 4:52conference,
- 4:54had nothing
- 4:54to get there.
- 4:55I drove a 1998
- 4:59black Mustang
- 5:00from Oklahoma
- 5:00City to San
- 5:01Diego in one hit
- 5:02because I did
- 5:03not have money
- 5:03to Stay in a
- 5:05hotel to
- 5:06the point that
- 5:07when I got to San
- 5:08Diego, I came in
- 5:11and stayed at a
- 5:11hostel and could
- 5:12not even pay for
- 5:13early check in
- 5:14in the hostel
- 5:15that was down
- 5:16the street from
- 5:17the conference.
- 5:18So I slept in the
- 5:19parking lot of
- 5:20the conference
- 5:21and then asked
- 5:22them to use
- 5:22their bathroom
- 5:23so I could
- 5:24change clothes
- 5:25so I could look
- 5:25like a million
- 5:26bucks when I
- 5:26walked into
- 5:26the conference.
- 5:28And
- 5:29that changed
- 5:30everything.
- 5:31That conference
- 5:31changed
- 5:32absolutely
- 5:34everything
- 5:34for me because
- 5:35that's when I
- 5:36found out that
- 5:36people will pay
- 5:37you for what you
- 5:37know, and that
- 5:38is what you do.
- 5:40Changed
- 5:41everything.
- 5:42And then I
- 5:43started to take
- 5:44action with
- 5:45the information
- 5:46that I did have.
- 5:47And it just
- 5:48kept going and
- 5:48going and going.
- 5:49Fast forward,
- 5:51I'd say about
- 5:52four years
- 5:52ago, I've had
- 5:53multiple brands,
- 5:54by the way.
- 5:55So if you're
- 5:55out there like,
- 5:56well, it just has
- 5:57to be perfect.
- 5:58I'm here to
- 5:58tell you right
- 5:58now, I've had
- 5:59five brands.
- 6:01under what I
- 6:01do, because
- 6:03things clicked
- 6:03differently
- 6:04for me and
- 6:05the audience.
- 6:05Again, me and
- 6:07the audience.
- 6:08So at that, I
- 6:08started out with
- 6:09something called
- 6:09Genius Academy.
- 6:10At this time,
- 6:13it's still Genius
- 6:14Academy, and
- 6:14people are not
- 6:15working with me.
- 6:16Well, they're
- 6:16working with
- 6:16me, but they're
- 6:17not giving me
- 6:17testimonials.
- 6:18And I'm asking
- 6:19them, so why
- 6:20would you give
- 6:20me a testimonial?
- 6:21And they respond
- 6:22with, oh, because
- 6:23you're queer.
- 6:25Wow.
- 6:26And my church
- 6:27people know
- 6:28who you are.
- 6:29Because you're
- 6:29friends with them
- 6:30on social media,
- 6:32so I can do that,
- 6:33and that got me
- 6:35in a level of
- 6:35pissocity that
- 6:36was very real.
- 6:37And so because
- 6:38of that, what I
- 6:39did, I changed
- 6:40everything, and
- 6:41I went all, I
- 6:42went down the
- 6:43queer path.
- 6:44So I changed
- 6:45my channel.
- 6:46I did.
- 6:47Like it was the
- 6:48Queer Money Gang.
- 6:48You said, okay,
- 6:49I'm going to
- 6:49double down on
- 6:50it since that's
- 6:51what's happening.
- 6:52I'm just going
- 6:52to double down
- 6:53on this brand.
- 6:53I was like,
- 6:54let's go then.
- 6:55So it was the
- 6:56Queer Money Gang.
- 6:57I had the
- 6:58podcast was the
- 6:59Entrepreneur
- 6:59Show.
- 7:00Like it was
- 7:01just full hill.
- 7:02And the thing
- 7:04about it, I got
- 7:05a lot of traction
- 7:06that way.
- 7:06I was able to
- 7:07get into Forbes
- 7:08that way because
- 7:09I just owned it.
- 7:10I owned being
- 7:11black and queer
- 7:12and in the
- 7:13business space.
- 7:14And then I lost
- 7:17the trademark for
- 7:19a queer because
- 7:19at org there's
- 7:20a brand called
- 7:21Queer Money and
- 7:23It was too
- 7:23close to Queer
- 7:24Money Gang.
- 7:24Thank you.
- 7:26And I.
- 7:27Did not win
- 7:28that trademark.
- 7:29And so I'm
- 7:30thinking, okay,
- 7:30what do I do now?
- 7:32So then that
- 7:32went to,
- 7:35Leveaux Executive
- 7:36Solutions.
- 7:37I thought I
- 7:37was going to
- 7:37do it that way.
- 7:38Then I had to
- 7:38remember if I
- 7:39sell it where the
- 7:40values with me.
- 7:42That's a
- 7:42nugget there.
- 7:43Then I went
- 7:44to the Wealth
- 7:45Spa, and then
- 7:46when I put that
- 7:47up, people didn't
- 7:48say it right.
- 7:50And then when,
- 7:50and then when
- 7:51they were
- 7:51referring to
- 7:51that, like, oh,
- 7:52you own a spa?
- 7:52I'm like,
- 7:53no, I don't.
- 7:54It's the
- 7:54Wealth Spa.
- 7:55Oh, you're
- 7:56a financial
- 7:56industry?
- 7:57No.
- 7:58So then I just
- 7:59started to
- 7:59realize, what
- 8:00do I want to
- 8:01give people?
- 8:02I want people
- 8:03to know how
- 8:03divine they are.
- 8:04I desire to be
- 8:05a reminder to
- 8:06their divinity.
- 8:08However, for
- 8:08the most part,
- 8:09people won't
- 8:09call, won't allow
- 8:10me to call them
- 8:11gods because they
- 8:13think I'm being
- 8:13Kanye with it.
- 8:15But I'm not.
- 8:16If you know about
- 8:17Neville Goddard
- 8:17or Abraham Hicks,
- 8:19you know from
- 8:20the intention
- 8:22that I say that.
- 8:23I'm not saying
- 8:24that in an
- 8:25egotistical
- 8:26way or in a way
- 8:27that I'm bigger,
- 8:27you're smaller.
- 8:29I mean a
- 8:29collective
- 8:30god body.
- 8:32That's what I'm
- 8:32referring to.
- 8:33And the people don't really
- 8:36understand that,
- 8:37so I was like,
- 8:37if I can't call
- 8:38you a god, what
- 8:39can I call you?
- 8:40An icon.
- 8:42And then being
- 8:43queer identified
- 8:44completely
- 8:46brings on, you
- 8:47know, the house
- 8:48of, if you know
- 8:48anything about
- 8:50Ballroom, that
- 8:51Ballroom and, you
- 8:53know, the voguing
- 8:53scene and Paris
- 8:54is Burning, all
- 8:55of that played
- 8:57a direct part
- 8:58in me naming it
- 9:00what I named it.
- 9:02Beautiful,
- 9:02beautiful.
- 9:03And what's so
- 9:04really powerful
- 9:05about this,
- 9:05particularly
- 9:06about this
- 9:06story, is
- 9:08imperfect action.
- 9:09I feel like
- 9:09every time you
- 9:11led with that
- 9:12as your brand
- 9:12was shifting.
- 9:13So are there any
- 9:15things that Tips
- 9:16that you want to
- 9:16give like other
- 9:17entrepreneurs who
- 9:18might have, might
- 9:18be going through
- 9:19a rebrand right
- 9:20now, like one,
- 9:21how do you let go
- 9:22of the old brand?
- 9:23Cause sometimes
- 9:24they're that
- 9:24emotional
- 9:25attachment.
- 9:25Right.
- 9:26And then two,
- 9:27how do you
- 9:27create clarity
- 9:28for the new?
- 9:30So in, in.
- 9:31Regards to
- 9:32creating a
- 9:33new brand,
- 9:34so you have
- 9:34something and
- 9:35you found, you
- 9:36have clarity now
- 9:37that something
- 9:38else can work.
- 9:39First off, be
- 9:40grateful that
- 9:41you even had
- 9:42the ability
- 9:43to see that.
- 9:44A lot of times
- 9:44people don't see
- 9:45that and they're
- 9:4620 years behind
- 9:48because they're
- 9:48not willing
- 9:49to see that.
- 9:50So be grateful
- 9:50for that.
- 9:51Next thing
- 9:52is it's okay
- 9:54to start over.
- 9:57It's completely
- 9:58fine.
- 9:58Okay, how many
- 10:01tools, products,
- 10:02services did
- 10:05Apple put
- 10:05out, did Coca
- 10:06Cola put out?
- 10:08And McDonald's
- 10:08put out, they
- 10:09launched things
- 10:10that had multi
- 10:11million dollars
- 10:12behind those
- 10:13launch campaigns
- 10:14and they failed
- 10:15miserables,
- 10:16including movies.
- 10:17There are movies
- 10:18that done the
- 10:18same thing,
- 10:19totally bombed.
- 10:21And guess what?
- 10:22It, it, no
- 10:22one died.
- 10:23It's, it's
- 10:24completely okay.
- 10:25Everything
- 10:25will be okay.
- 10:26So remember
- 10:28that everything
- 10:29will be okay.
- 10:31But I need
- 10:31you to take,
- 10:33like she's, like
- 10:33you're saying,
- 10:34I need you to
- 10:34take complete.
- 10:36Action, imperfect
- 10:37action to make
- 10:38that happen.
- 10:38And to, as
- 10:41you're, there's
- 10:42something else
- 10:42I wanted to
- 10:43say, because
- 10:43along your
- 10:44last question,
- 10:45what was your
- 10:45last question
- 10:46just now?
- 10:47About getting
- 10:48the clarity or
- 10:49about letting go?
- 10:50The letting go,
- 10:51the letting go.
- 10:53So here's
- 10:53the thing.
- 10:54Well, let's
- 10:55take Welspa.
- 10:56Welspa had a
- 10:57direct relational
- 11:00tugging point
- 11:01with me and
- 11:02the reason
- 11:02why, because
- 11:03someone that I
- 11:04was engaged to
- 11:07helped me create
- 11:07the wealth spot.
- 11:09So not only am
- 11:11I releasing a
- 11:12logo, I know a
- 11:15brand board, a
- 11:17color scheme.
- 11:17No, I'm releasing
- 11:19something that
- 11:21was created in
- 11:22the midnight
- 11:23hours in a very
- 11:24intimate setting
- 11:26with someone
- 11:26I adore that
- 11:27I thought I'd
- 11:28spend the rest
- 11:28of my life with.
- 11:31And I, sometimes,
- 11:32I want
- 11:35people to be
- 11:35reminded that
- 11:36entrepreneurship,
- 11:36it sounds
- 11:37good that,
- 11:38you know, it's
- 11:39not personal,
- 11:39it's business.
- 11:40There are so
- 11:41many personal
- 11:42things that are
- 11:43happening along
- 11:43this business
- 11:44journey that
- 11:45people have
- 11:45no idea about.
- 11:46Like it took
- 11:47everything for me
- 11:48to let WellSpot
- 11:50go, because it
- 11:50meant I had to
- 11:51let them go too.
- 11:53You better
- 11:53preach.
- 11:54You better
- 11:55preach.
- 11:55So what I'm
- 11:56hearing, you
- 11:57know, is that you
- 11:58also are doing
- 11:59some healing work
- 12:00in this process
- 12:01and I often tell
- 12:02people, you know,
- 12:04I was talking
- 12:04to my dad about
- 12:05this around
- 12:05the holidays,
- 12:06because he
- 12:06asked me, how's
- 12:07business going?
- 12:07And I say, yeah,
- 12:08business is going
- 12:08well, but it's
- 12:10changing me.
- 12:10And he was like,
- 12:11kind of scared,
- 12:11like, oh, what
- 12:12kind of change?
- 12:13And I was like,
- 12:13you know, I'm
- 12:13doing a, you
- 12:14know, A lot of,
- 12:15like, healing,
- 12:15like, around,
- 12:16like, money and
- 12:17scarcity and fear
- 12:19and doubt and,
- 12:20you know, like,
- 12:20it's, it's more
- 12:21of a therapy
- 12:22process than
- 12:23it, than it's
- 12:24just me, like,
- 12:24running payroll
- 12:25and making
- 12:25money, like,
- 12:26you know, like,
- 12:27the framework
- 12:27side of it.
- 12:29So for
- 12:30you, it, it
- 12:31definitely seems
- 12:31like you've
- 12:32been on this
- 12:32healing process.
- 12:33Now, the ICON
- 12:34side, the GOD
- 12:35side, have the
- 12:37services changed
- 12:38or are they the
- 12:39same as what you
- 12:40were doing at
- 12:40the Wealth Spa?
- 12:41Are you
- 12:41providing?
- 12:42You know, more
- 12:43refined services
- 12:44or different
- 12:44services at
- 12:45this point in
- 12:46your journey.
- 12:47So, yes and no.
- 12:50It's like you
- 12:50just alluded to.
- 12:51It's the
- 12:52refinement of it.
- 12:54So, my very
- 12:54first, my very
- 12:55first coaching
- 12:57thing that I ever
- 12:57sold was for 500
- 12:59for a group of
- 13:00black men that
- 13:01were attending
- 13:01the University
- 13:02of Oklahoma that
- 13:02wanted to start
- 13:03a conglomerate
- 13:04and they wanted
- 13:05to hire me for
- 13:066 months and I
- 13:06charged them 500
- 13:08for 6 months.
- 13:08Let me just
- 13:09say, first off,
- 13:10Never again,
- 13:11baby Jesus.
- 13:11Never again.
- 13:12We all make
- 13:13the mistake.
- 13:16And I don't
- 13:16know what's so
- 13:17attractive about
- 13:17$500, but we all
- 13:19just, that's
- 13:20the number.
- 13:20That's the
- 13:21number.
- 13:22But I was in the
- 13:23commissary on
- 13:24base in Oklahoma
- 13:25city, jumping
- 13:26up and down.
- 13:27When it, when
- 13:28that thing
- 13:28came through,
- 13:29I'm like, I'm
- 13:29a real, it
- 13:30really happened.
- 13:31So I was ecstatic
- 13:33that it happened.
- 13:34However, it will
- 13:34never have to
- 13:35get in that way.
- 13:36So I say that
- 13:37because I
- 13:37supported them by
- 13:38making sure they
- 13:39had the business
- 13:39structure set up.
- 13:40I made sure they
- 13:40had understanding
- 13:41of what planning
- 13:42was making
- 13:44sure they
- 13:44understand a
- 13:45strategy versus
- 13:46a tactic, making
- 13:48sure that action
- 13:49steps were taken.
- 13:50KPIs were
- 13:51implemented.
- 13:52So those, so
- 13:53very, very
- 13:53business
- 13:54foundational
- 13:55type things was
- 13:56what I supported
- 13:57them with.
- 13:57Now.
- 13:59At this stage,
- 14:00I'm understanding
- 14:01that, yes, I'm
- 14:02doing all of that
- 14:02as well, from
- 14:03a consultancy
- 14:05standpoint.
- 14:06However, the
- 14:07whole point of
- 14:07being an Icon
- 14:08is for you to be
- 14:09able to create,
- 14:11position, and
- 14:13monetize your
- 14:14expertise.
- 14:16That's the
- 14:16entire point.
- 14:18Yes, there's
- 14:18a foundational
- 14:19aspect of
- 14:20business that
- 14:20must be talked
- 14:22about, must
- 14:23be nurtured.
- 14:24However, the
- 14:25whole point of
- 14:26why we're here is
- 14:27not just business
- 14:28in general.
- 14:29It is literally
- 14:29and only to
- 14:30create, position,
- 14:32and monetize
- 14:32your expertise
- 14:33so that you are
- 14:34known in your
- 14:35industry as what?
- 14:36An icon.
- 14:39Beautiful,
- 14:39beautiful.
- 14:40And I'm sure
- 14:40you spend time,
- 14:41right, like
- 14:41really refining
- 14:44and deciding
- 14:44who you want
- 14:45to work with.
- 14:45Yes.
- 14:45I know you
- 14:46mentioned.
- 14:47Military, I know
- 14:48you're a veteran.
- 14:49Thank you so much
- 14:50for your service.
- 14:50Number one,
- 14:52how do you feel
- 14:53the, the, the
- 14:54things that you
- 14:55learned in the
- 14:55military have
- 14:56informed you as
- 14:57an entrepreneur?
- 14:57Because so many
- 14:59folks that I meet
- 15:00that are killing
- 15:00it often have
- 15:02some background
- 15:03in the military.
- 15:04And I really
- 15:04believe it's
- 15:05because y'all
- 15:05got some kind
- 15:06of discipline.
- 15:07You know, that
- 15:08some of us
- 15:09others that,
- 15:10that have been
- 15:10civilians our
- 15:11whole life have
- 15:12to kind of, you
- 15:13know, get into,
- 15:14but y'all be
- 15:14up at five, you
- 15:15know, it's easy
- 15:16for you to get
- 15:17the work done.
- 15:18Um, you get to
- 15:19the bag a lot
- 15:20quicker just
- 15:20from some of
- 15:21that, but I'm
- 15:21sure there's some
- 15:22other things that
- 15:22you learned from
- 15:23that experience
- 15:23that have
- 15:24informed you as
- 15:25an entrepreneur
- 15:25as well.
- 15:27I'll say the
- 15:28two things that
- 15:28the military
- 15:29has blessed me
- 15:30with from an
- 15:31experiential
- 15:32point is number
- 15:34one, It was,
- 15:36well, first off,
- 15:36it was not the
- 15:37discipline
- 15:39because that
- 15:39whole making it
- 15:39to bed thing, in
- 15:40the middle of the
- 15:40time, I'm like,
- 15:41I still don't
- 15:41understand why I
- 15:43got to do this.
- 15:44If I'm going to
- 15:44do this, I need
- 15:45to get promoted.
- 15:45So, I'm not going
- 15:46to make this bed.
- 15:48However, what did
- 15:50work for me is
- 15:51the persistence.
- 15:53So, when you're,
- 15:54you know, when
- 15:55you're about to
- 15:55complete basic
- 15:56training and you
- 15:57have to go on
- 15:58a three mile,
- 16:00only three hour,
- 16:01Roadmarch
- 16:02in the sands of
- 16:04South Carolina
- 16:05uphill at two
- 16:06o'clock in the
- 16:07morning with the
- 16:09weapon and gear
- 16:11and a hundred,
- 16:11a hundred pound
- 16:13backpack on and
- 16:15you're tired
- 16:15cause you've
- 16:16been sleeping
- 16:16in the woods
- 16:16for the last
- 16:17three, four days
- 16:18and you're all
- 16:19this things and
- 16:20you're ready to
- 16:20leave all these
- 16:21people behind,
- 16:22like persistence,
- 16:24persistence.
- 16:26Being able
- 16:26to go through
- 16:28deployments
- 16:29successfully.
- 16:30Persistence.
- 16:31And then the
- 16:32next thing is,
- 16:34the persistence
- 16:34part of course
- 16:35is a me thing.
- 16:36The part that's
- 16:37for my clients
- 16:38is the ability
- 16:39to bring, to
- 16:40be completely
- 16:43obsessed by
- 16:44obsessed by
- 16:45your client.
- 16:46Overcoming.
- 16:47So in the
- 16:48military,
- 16:49especially as a
- 16:49commander, so I
- 16:51reached the rank
- 16:52of major, and so
- 16:54being, I've had
- 16:55command time, so
- 16:55I commanded three
- 16:56different units,
- 16:59and being able
- 17:00to ensure that
- 17:02the mission was
- 17:03done, but done in
- 17:04a way that no one
- 17:05was left behind.
- 17:07No matter what
- 17:07that took, if
- 17:08that took me
- 17:09respectfully
- 17:10declining what
- 17:12the colonel had
- 17:13to say at that
- 17:13moment, or
- 17:16moment, or
- 17:17standing with
- 17:18all feet and all
- 17:20knowing that the
- 17:21decision that I
- 17:21just made, even
- 17:22though we are in
- 17:23a combat zone, is
- 17:24going to work out
- 17:26for everyone's
- 17:26good, but not
- 17:28wavering in my
- 17:30decisiveness,
- 17:32it's because
- 17:33I am obsessed.
- 17:34By their, by my
- 17:36intention for
- 17:37them to overcome.
- 17:38So those two
- 17:39things have
- 17:39been the most
- 17:41significant
- 17:41for me.
- 19:28All right.
- 19:29Thank you so
- 19:29much for sharing.
- 19:30I love, I love
- 19:32to hear it.
- 19:32And I'm really
- 19:33thankful that
- 19:34you had that
- 19:35experience
- 19:35because you show
- 19:37up, you know,
- 19:38aesthetically,
- 19:39definitely as
- 19:39a leader and
- 19:40a powerhouse.
- 19:41And I know that
- 19:42that's a part
- 19:42of it, but I'm
- 19:44really just
- 19:44proud of you for
- 19:44making it through
- 19:45that journey.
- 19:45Because I don't
- 19:47know about all
- 19:47that two o'clock
- 19:48in the morning.
- 19:48That sounds
- 19:49like a lot.
- 19:50That sounds like
- 19:50me, you know,
- 19:51exiting stage
- 19:52left, to be
- 19:53honest with you.
- 19:53I can't make any
- 19:54promises there.
- 19:56That's
- 19:56understood.
- 19:57In no shade
- 19:58of a dozen on
- 19:58that at all.
- 20:00Okay.
- 20:00So let's, let's
- 20:01talk a little
- 20:02bit about what
- 20:05are, who are the
- 20:05clients you like
- 20:06working with
- 20:07and who are the
- 20:07folks you like?
- 20:08Nah, don't
- 20:08even get on the
- 20:09call with me.
- 20:10You know, because
- 20:11I'm going to
- 20:11be honest,
- 20:12like, who you
- 20:13love first, we
- 20:13start, we always
- 20:14start at love.
- 20:15And then, you
- 20:16know, there's
- 20:16some people it's
- 20:17like, Oh, I'm
- 20:18good, I'm good.
- 20:19What I have
- 20:20learned from all
- 20:21the clients that
- 20:23I've worked with
- 20:24and experiencing
- 20:26moments when they
- 20:27did not show up
- 20:28in their divinity
- 20:29and I did not
- 20:30show up in mine.
- 20:31Let's just be
- 20:31real about this.
- 20:33I am not Mr.
- 20:33Rogers.
- 20:34I am, I say
- 20:35again, I
- 20:36am not Mr.
- 20:36Rogers.
- 20:37So there have
- 20:38been times.
- 20:39Or it, it sounded
- 20:41like a Boys in
- 20:42the Hood scene,
- 20:43behind
- 20:44the scenes,
- 20:45things did
- 20:46not go well.
- 20:48Things did not
- 20:49go well at all.
- 20:51And because
- 20:51of those
- 20:52experiences,
- 20:52I now know the
- 20:53people that I
- 20:54love to work with
- 20:56are people that
- 20:57are coachable.
- 20:58People that
- 20:59are willing to
- 21:01do what I tell
- 21:03them to do.
- 21:06Because if you
- 21:07would have, if
- 21:07you know it all,
- 21:08you would have
- 21:09done it all.
- 21:11Why am I here?
- 21:12Put that on
- 21:12the shirt.
- 21:13Just put it
- 21:13on the shirt.
- 21:14That would
- 21:14be great.
- 21:15That would
- 21:15be great.
- 21:16If you know
- 21:17so much, why'd
- 21:18you hire me?
- 21:19Like, why'd
- 21:19you hire me?
- 21:20I'm telling
- 21:20you to do this
- 21:20thing and you're
- 21:21bucking me.
- 21:23Like, why would
- 21:23you buck the
- 21:25person that is
- 21:27committed to you?
- 21:28Like, why would
- 21:28you do that?
- 21:29Why are you
- 21:30sabotaging,
- 21:31like, the plan?
- 21:32That seems weird.
- 21:34That seems
- 21:34really weird.
- 21:35And I know there
- 21:35are layers to
- 21:36that that I don't
- 21:37desire to unpack.
- 21:39I don't.
- 21:40I don't desire
- 21:40to impact that.
- 21:41Even though I
- 21:42have the acumen
- 21:43to do so, I
- 21:44don't desire it.
- 21:45And I won't.
- 21:46So, those, and
- 21:47I can tell very
- 21:48early on, when I
- 21:49say, so I, yes,
- 21:51there are some
- 21:51times where it's
- 21:52just a simple,
- 21:54Asa, I want this,
- 21:55okay, here's
- 21:55the payment
- 21:56link, and go.
- 21:57Where if it's
- 21:57something like
- 21:58a one off, I
- 22:00can completely
- 22:00do that.
- 22:01I especially
- 22:02like, for
- 22:03instance, a
- 22:03social media
- 22:04content calendar
- 22:05for like 30 days.
- 22:06I'm going to
- 22:07send you a form,
- 22:08you're going
- 22:08to fill it out,
- 22:09I'm going to
- 22:09do it, be done.
- 22:11However, if
- 22:13we're going to be
- 22:13working together,
- 22:14I've learned
- 22:15that process
- 22:16just needs to
- 22:16be a little
- 22:17bit longer.
- 22:19So I love the
- 22:20fact, if you're
- 22:20listening and
- 22:21you haven't added
- 22:22an application
- 22:23process, I'm
- 22:25telling you right
- 22:25now, add it.
- 22:28If you, because
- 22:29the person who
- 22:30was unwilling
- 22:31to fill out the
- 22:31application will
- 22:32be unwilling
- 22:33to fill out
- 22:34the JWT form or
- 22:36the Google form
- 22:37or whatever in
- 22:38order for the
- 22:39onboarding to
- 22:40take place or
- 22:41in order for
- 22:42the brand to be
- 22:43made different
- 22:45or in order
- 22:45for the sales
- 22:46process to begin.
- 22:47I'm telling you,
- 22:48you can, there
- 22:49are so many
- 22:49things early on
- 22:51that you give,
- 22:52you lend
- 22:53a blind eye to
- 22:54because you're
- 22:55in, you're
- 22:56in financial
- 22:57excitement.
- 22:58But financial
- 22:59excitement,
- 23:00if you're, if
- 23:01you're not clear,
- 23:02will cloud your
- 23:04operational
- 23:06reality.
- 23:07Financial
- 23:08excitement will
- 23:08cloud operational
- 23:10reality.
- 23:11If you aren't
- 23:12looking at it.
- 23:13And a way that
- 23:14supports you.
- 23:15So yes, of
- 23:16course, ring
- 23:17the bell, do
- 23:18the clacking,
- 23:18go online.
- 23:19I made the sale
- 23:20happen for you
- 23:20and watch how
- 23:22and watch how
- 23:23they move now.
- 23:25Watch how
- 23:26they move.
- 23:26Cause you may
- 23:27need to do a 48
- 23:28hour, refund
- 23:31because they are
- 23:32not willing to
- 23:36be supported in
- 23:37the way you want
- 23:37to support them.
- 23:38Yeah, that's so
- 23:39real about the
- 23:39application.
- 23:41I remember when
- 23:41I first started,
- 23:43I would just
- 23:43send a Zoom link,
- 23:44like, you know,
- 23:46just get on the
- 23:47call with me.
- 23:48And then I
- 23:49remember I got on
- 23:49a call and this
- 23:50person talked
- 23:51me to something.
- 23:52I don't know
- 23:53what they were
- 23:53talking about.
- 23:54And I said,
- 23:54you know what?
- 23:55I got to get
- 23:55this together.
- 23:56And I was on a
- 23:57call with a coach
- 23:57and they said,
- 23:58if you don't have
- 23:58an application,
- 23:59it shows that
- 24:00you don't have
- 24:00any boundaries.
- 24:02Imagine who
- 24:03you're going to
- 24:03attract with that
- 24:04kind of energy.
- 24:05And it just,
- 24:05I mean.
- 24:07When I tell
- 24:07you it hit the
- 24:08heart, I said,
- 24:09Oh, let me get
- 24:10this together.
- 24:11So, you know,
- 24:11they don't want
- 24:12to look at other
- 24:12applications.
- 24:13I said, what
- 24:14questions are
- 24:14they asking?
- 24:15Cause I know
- 24:15some people
- 24:16are probably
- 24:16listening
- 24:16to this.
- 24:16What should
- 24:17I put down?
- 24:17It really depends
- 24:18on your brand,
- 24:19your service, and
- 24:19your business.
- 24:20We can't give
- 24:20that to you here
- 24:21on this episode,
- 24:22but go explore
- 24:23other people and
- 24:24what they have.
- 24:25And that's always
- 24:25fun for me to
- 24:26kind of funnel
- 24:27hack and see
- 24:27what's out there.
- 24:28Cause sometimes
- 24:29I'll be like,
- 24:29this is a
- 24:29great question.
- 24:30And sometimes
- 24:30I'll be like, you
- 24:31know what, like
- 24:31you said, I do
- 24:32not even choose.
- 24:34I don't even
- 24:34want to know the
- 24:34answer to that,
- 24:35because if I
- 24:35ask that, that
- 24:37means that's
- 24:37something we're
- 24:37going to have to
- 24:38talk more about,
- 24:38and I don't want
- 24:39to know that,
- 24:40like, right?
- 24:41So, so that's,
- 24:42that's, that's
- 24:42really beautiful
- 24:43for, for you
- 24:44and your brand.
- 24:45Tell me about,
- 24:46like, who you're
- 24:47working with
- 24:48right now that
- 24:49you're excited
- 24:49about, and,
- 24:50what does
- 24:51what does
- 24:52that look like
- 24:52in the day to
- 24:53day, right?
- 24:54Because I, what
- 24:54I want to know
- 24:55is, People are
- 24:56is, People are
- 24:56going to go and
- 24:57they're going
- 24:57to click on your
- 24:58page and they're
- 24:58going to be
- 24:59like, this brand
- 24:59is, is bomb.
- 25:00I'm, I'm never
- 25:01going to be that,
- 25:02but I want people
- 25:03to know like,
- 25:03what's your day
- 25:04to day, what
- 25:05you're doing with
- 25:05your clients so
- 25:06that they can
- 25:07see behind that
- 25:08it's a human, you
- 25:09know what I mean?
- 25:09Yes, yes.
- 25:11So there are two
- 25:11different worlds
- 25:13that, or two
- 25:14different avatars
- 25:15that we support.
- 25:16If you don't, if
- 25:16you never heard
- 25:17the word avatar,
- 25:18think, target
- 25:19market, hell,
- 25:21person, the
- 25:22person that we
- 25:23like to support.
- 25:24So on one end, we
- 25:26have individuals
- 25:27who, yes, they
- 25:29know things,
- 25:30but they have
- 25:31no idea how to
- 25:33create, position,
- 25:34and monetize
- 25:34that particular
- 25:35expertise.
- 25:36And so our.
- 25:37desire is
- 25:38to support them
- 25:39on either a
- 25:40do it yourself
- 25:41or a done with
- 25:42you, service
- 25:44or offering.
- 25:45Meaning, we're
- 25:46going to provide
- 25:47them so much
- 25:48content and so
- 25:49many action steps
- 25:51so that they
- 25:52can do what they
- 25:52need to do to
- 25:53make a difference
- 25:53for themselves,
- 25:54especially,
- 25:55monetarily
- 25:56in a revenues
- 25:57type of way.
- 25:58And so we give
- 25:59them all those
- 26:00different things.
- 26:00And those
- 26:01we call the
- 26:02emerging icons.
- 26:03Got it.
- 26:05Or, no, aspiring.
- 26:06If you are
- 26:07aspired to be
- 26:08an icon, that's
- 26:08where you start.
- 26:09Then we have
- 26:10another group
- 26:11over here.
- 26:12This group over
- 26:12here allows
- 26:13us to what?
- 26:15Be obsessed
- 26:15with them.
- 26:16We love to be
- 26:17obsessed with
- 26:17our clients.
- 26:18And so that looks
- 26:19like people that
- 26:20are allowing
- 26:21us to do more
- 26:22done for you
- 26:23type things.
- 26:24So that means
- 26:25we are actually
- 26:26creating the
- 26:26book for them.
- 26:27We are doing the
- 26:28brand shoot, we
- 26:30are doing the
- 26:31podcast show,
- 26:32like developing
- 26:33it from scratch,
- 26:34from the name
- 26:35to the art,
- 26:37everything for
- 26:38them even
- 26:40if we need to do
- 26:41a contract, like
- 26:42get them set up
- 26:43in a government
- 26:43contracted way,
- 26:44if that's what it
- 26:45takes for them to
- 26:46create a position
- 26:46and monetize
- 26:47their expertise,
- 26:48then that's
- 26:48what it takes.
- 26:49Everybody is
- 26:50a little bit
- 26:50different.
- 26:51However, we love
- 26:52those individuals
- 26:53and those
- 26:53individuals tend
- 26:55to be business
- 26:57owners who have
- 26:58million dollar
- 27:00in revenue
- 27:00businesses.
- 27:01So every year
- 27:02they're making a
- 27:02million minimum
- 27:04and what they
- 27:05desire, they
- 27:06want to, they
- 27:09really want for
- 27:11really want for
- 27:11me and my team to
- 27:13me and my team to
- 27:14understand on the
- 27:14back end that a
- 27:15million dollars
- 27:16just isn't enough
- 27:17for them and for
- 27:19us not to judge
- 27:20them about that.
- 27:22Because if a
- 27:23millionaire or
- 27:24million dollar
- 27:25business owner
- 27:25says that to
- 27:26the public, like
- 27:27a million just
- 27:27isn't enough, you
- 27:28already know the
- 27:30type of feedback,
- 27:31shade, comments
- 27:34that are about
- 27:35to come, but in
- 27:36reality, these
- 27:38individuals,
- 27:39it's not enough
- 27:40because when
- 27:41you're operating
- 27:42at that level,
- 27:44yes, you're
- 27:45making a Over
- 27:478, 333 every
- 27:49single month.
- 27:49And yes, I
- 27:50understand money
- 27:51because I know
- 27:51how to break
- 27:52down a million.
- 27:53$8, 333.
- 27:5533 every single
- 27:56month, at least.
- 27:57But guess what?
- 27:58A lot of that is
- 27:58going to team.
- 27:59A lot of that's
- 28:00going to rent, to
- 28:01leases, leasing
- 28:03vehicles, just
- 28:04the operational
- 28:05side of the
- 28:05business.
- 28:06And they are
- 28:07looking for
- 28:07something that
- 28:08doesn't, that
- 28:09can bring in more
- 28:10money without
- 28:10the overhead.
- 28:13And when you're
- 28:13able to monetize
- 28:14your expertise,
- 28:15the overhead
- 28:16goes away.
- 28:17So it's not
- 28:18the same.
- 28:18So if you're
- 28:19a day, so I'm
- 28:19working with,
- 28:20a woman who
- 28:21has a day, a
- 28:22chain of daycare
- 28:22centers, and
- 28:24she's been doing
- 28:25it for 25 years.
- 28:26And of course,
- 28:27what does
- 28:28she have?
- 28:28She has the,
- 28:29the brick and
- 28:30mortar of the,
- 28:31of the business.
- 28:31She has to
- 28:32pay all of
- 28:33her childcare
- 28:34providers,
- 28:35You know,
- 28:36everything that
- 28:37goes into that.
- 28:38But if I'm able
- 28:39to position her
- 28:41successfully
- 28:41with her book,
- 28:43with her course
- 28:44providing,
- 28:45her course
- 28:46offering her
- 28:49podcast show, her
- 28:50speaking tour,
- 28:52What is, what
- 28:53are we talking
- 28:53about as far
- 28:54as overhead?
- 28:54It's nothing
- 28:56compared to
- 28:57the business
- 28:57that they're
- 28:58already in.
- 28:59So that's the
- 28:59sweet part,
- 29:00sweet spot that
- 29:01we are going
- 29:02further in 2024.
- 29:04I even made a
- 29:05post about it,
- 29:05the King post
- 29:06yesterday or a
- 29:07day before, and
- 29:08I was like, it's
- 29:08531 and here
- 29:10I am with more
- 29:11clarity about my
- 29:13target market.
- 29:14And I did not
- 29:14ask for this and
- 29:15here it came,
- 29:17it just came.
- 29:18And that was what
- 29:19came like, wow.
- 29:20We really
- 29:20do support.
- 29:22Individuals
- 29:24that have
- 29:24million dollar
- 29:25businesses, we
- 29:27support them
- 29:28quicker, sooner,
- 29:28and faster
- 29:30than we do with
- 29:30those who are
- 29:31aspiring to be
- 29:32icons, because
- 29:33that's going
- 29:33to take a while
- 29:34because they're
- 29:35using their
- 29:36nine to five.
- 29:37We love that.
- 29:38We have something
- 29:39to support them,
- 29:40but it's going
- 29:41to take longer.
- 29:42Yeah, I love
- 29:44that difference
- 29:44that you're able
- 29:45to see within
- 29:45your avatar
- 29:47because what
- 29:48I find is that
- 29:49oftentimes people
- 29:49are at that
- 29:50aspiring mode
- 29:51and they want
- 29:52to have emerging
- 29:54problems, right?
- 29:55They're trying
- 29:55to fix emerging
- 29:56problems.
- 29:56It's like,
- 29:57that's not even
- 29:57something for
- 29:58you to even worry
- 29:58about, but like,
- 29:59let's just, let's
- 30:00just make a bag.
- 30:01Let's just
- 30:02secure a bag.
- 30:02Let's just get
- 30:03one bag, right?
- 30:04Yeah, let's not
- 30:06secure seven.
- 30:07Let's secure one.
- 30:09Right?
- 30:09Not seven.
- 30:10So, so that
- 30:11Man, because
- 30:12That's a whole
- 30:14other thing.
- 30:14No, go on.
- 30:16What were you
- 30:17going to say?
- 30:17Go on.
- 30:17No, that's a
- 30:17whole other
- 30:18thing about the
- 30:18conversations
- 30:19with a lot of,
- 30:20aspiring
- 30:21entrepreneurs,
- 30:22aspiring icons.
- 30:23And you
- 30:24are in this
- 30:25conversations
- 30:25around, I just,
- 30:26I just trying to
- 30:27be, I'm trying to
- 30:27get some wealth
- 30:29and some,
- 30:30some legacy.
- 30:31I'm like, you're
- 30:31using words.
- 30:33That you have
- 30:33not built a
- 30:34foundation to
- 30:35sustain and
- 30:37that's not shade
- 30:38and judgment.
- 30:39That's not
- 30:39humbling you.
- 30:40That's not
- 30:41anything.
- 30:41That's
- 30:41understanding
- 30:42where we are
- 30:44because you
- 30:44can't get to
- 30:46Vegas if you
- 30:46don't understand
- 30:47that you're in
- 30:47Oklahoma City
- 30:48right now.
- 30:49If you are in
- 30:50Oklahoma City and
- 30:50you think you're
- 30:51in LA, baby, you
- 30:52are delusional.
- 30:54And so I'm not
- 30:54trying to humble
- 30:55you, sugar.
- 30:55I just want
- 30:56to tell you
- 30:57where you at.
- 30:59I just want
- 30:59to tell you
- 30:59where you at.
- 31:00You just want
- 31:01to provide
- 31:01clarity, right?
- 31:02Clarity so that
- 31:03they can observe
- 31:04and do really
- 31:05good work, right?
- 31:06Because when we
- 31:06know where we're
- 31:07at, we can get to
- 31:07the next place.
- 31:08When we don't
- 31:09have that
- 31:09clarity, that's
- 31:10when we start to
- 31:11do things that
- 31:12are almost self
- 31:13sabotaging and
- 31:14doesn't allow for
- 31:15people to grow.
- 31:16So I'm excited
- 31:17to see what
- 31:17this is going
- 31:18to bring for the
- 31:19brand in 2024.
- 31:21One more thing
- 31:22and then,
- 31:23you know, I
- 31:23definitely want
- 31:23to give you your
- 31:24time because
- 31:25I know you got
- 31:25things and I
- 31:25got things, but
- 31:27you mentioned
- 31:28a team, right?
- 31:29And I think that
- 31:29that is a space
- 31:31where a lot of
- 31:31entrepreneurs
- 31:33are at.
- 31:34Maybe they need
- 31:34to just hire
- 31:35one person.
- 31:36I always say
- 31:36some people
- 31:36just, they afraid
- 31:37to delegate.
- 31:38And it's like,
- 31:38if you would just
- 31:39delegate this
- 31:39one thing, boo,
- 31:41your business
- 31:41would grow so
- 31:42much quicker.
- 31:42And then some
- 31:43folks don't
- 31:44even need to
- 31:44do it yet.
- 31:45So, When did
- 31:46you decide to
- 31:46bring on a team?
- 31:47What does your
- 31:47team look like?
- 31:48And what are
- 31:49some of your
- 31:49frameworks
- 31:50around supporting
- 31:51clients with that
- 31:52particular need?
- 31:54So let me, I'm
- 31:55going to be,
- 31:55I'm going to
- 31:55show y'all the
- 31:56dirt and dirty.
- 31:57All right, here
- 31:59come my laundry.
- 32:00All right.
- 32:01So for the
- 32:01longest time, I
- 32:03fought the idea
- 32:04of team because
- 32:07I took pleasure
- 32:10in overwhelming
- 32:11my clients with
- 32:13my own acumen.
- 32:15So my thing is,
- 32:17I op and that
- 32:18op that came
- 32:19from a place
- 32:19of in a fear
- 32:20of inadequacy.
- 32:22Because I was
- 32:23fearing that I
- 32:23was inadequate,
- 32:25I was doing my
- 32:26best to overwhelm
- 32:27my clients with
- 32:28action steps,
- 32:30and doing all
- 32:31of those from
- 32:32me, so that I
- 32:34can say, here
- 32:35is proof that
- 32:36I am wonderful.
- 32:38Yep, I did all
- 32:39that for years.
- 32:43Yeah, just
- 32:44out here, just
- 32:45looking crazy.
- 32:46Just outside,
- 32:47just outside.
- 32:48Just outside
- 32:51looking crazy.
- 32:52And thinking, um,
- 32:53all of that.
- 32:54I'm literally
- 32:55all of that.
- 32:56And I then
- 32:57realized, like,
- 32:58wow, I can stop
- 33:01having ulcers.
- 33:03You mean
- 33:04I can stop
- 33:04having ulcers?
- 33:05You mean I
- 33:06could go on a
- 33:07trip and not
- 33:09bring my laptop?
- 33:11What?
- 33:12Like,
- 33:14that's crazy.
- 33:15So team first
- 33:18started to look
- 33:19like outsourcing.
- 33:20I would maybe
- 33:21like do a webinar
- 33:22and I would
- 33:22outsource the
- 33:23entire webinar
- 33:24to a team just
- 33:25to see what
- 33:26it would feel.
- 33:26I wouldn't
- 33:26do anything
- 33:27long term.
- 33:27I just wanted
- 33:28to see what it
- 33:28could look like.
- 33:29And I didn't
- 33:30do it to say,
- 33:31now, this is
- 33:31why I don't
- 33:32have a team.
- 33:32No, I did it so
- 33:34that, I could
- 33:36know, okay, so
- 33:37maybe I, if I
- 33:38do it this way
- 33:39next about this
- 33:40next project,
- 33:41it'll go better.
- 33:43That was the
- 33:44whole point.
- 33:44Like, okay, if
- 33:45I do it on this
- 33:45small thing,
- 33:47how could life
- 33:48go bigger?
- 33:48Okay.
- 33:49Now let's talk
- 33:50about last year.
- 33:51Last year, I
- 33:53started because I
- 33:55was in the middle
- 33:55of a rebrand.
- 33:56Remember, I
- 33:56went from the
- 33:57Wealth Spot to
- 33:58House of Icons.
- 33:59Not only that,
- 34:01but I also joined
- 34:02a mastermind.
- 34:05Like a legitimate
- 34:06mastermind
- 34:07for the first
- 34:07time, like with
- 34:08community and
- 34:09all the things,
- 34:10I actually joined
- 34:10one and I was
- 34:12like, okay, okay,
- 34:13so I'm learning
- 34:14from everyone,
- 34:16but I didn't want
- 34:17to put team in
- 34:18the middle of
- 34:18that, all those
- 34:20growing pains
- 34:21of getting new
- 34:22information from
- 34:23the mastermind,
- 34:24from these new
- 34:25coaches that are
- 34:26coaching me, I
- 34:27didn't want to
- 34:28do that, I didn't
- 34:28know how to do
- 34:29that, let's just
- 34:30be very clear, I
- 34:30didn't know how,
- 34:31I didn't know how
- 34:31to take in all
- 34:32the information
- 34:33and then I Put
- 34:34that into someone
- 34:35stream in a very
- 34:37streamlined way.
- 34:38So it went back
- 34:39and forth with
- 34:40team last year
- 34:42in which looked
- 34:42like, well, which
- 34:44also looked like
- 34:44I didn't know
- 34:45how to run no
- 34:45damn agency.
- 34:47I had started one
- 34:49cause that was
- 34:50the first year
- 34:50that I actually
- 34:51had an agency.
- 34:53But what I found
- 34:54out, I had put
- 34:55a container
- 34:56around my labor.
- 34:58Oof.
- 34:59I am still
- 35:00dealing with.
- 35:03The decision to
- 35:04put a container
- 35:06around my
- 35:06labor and not
- 35:08truly having an
- 35:09agency in the
- 35:10most realist
- 35:11sense, an agency
- 35:13that allows me
- 35:14to move out.
- 35:16Because if I put
- 35:17a container in
- 35:18my labor, what
- 35:18I'm calling it an
- 35:19agency, I still
- 35:19do not have the
- 35:20freedom that
- 35:21is given to a
- 35:22business owner.
- 35:23I am still at a
- 35:24freelancer level.
- 35:26And I just
- 35:26made it pretty.
- 35:27That's all I did.
- 35:29I made it pretty.
- 35:31And that
- 35:31was 2023.
- 35:33Making crap
- 35:34look pretty.
- 35:39You did make it
- 35:39look pretty, too.
- 35:40It was looking
- 35:41real pretty.
- 35:42It was.
- 35:43It's just
- 35:43drowning.
- 35:45Black behind,
- 35:45just DRAM it.
- 35:46So, that
- 35:47was 2023.
- 35:49I don't desire
- 35:50to repeat that
- 35:51level of 2023.
- 35:53So now what
- 35:53it looks like
- 35:54is now we have
- 35:55already had the
- 35:55conversation.
- 35:57We have an
- 35:58organization
- 35:58that's going
- 35:59to support us
- 36:00with a online
- 36:02business manager.
- 36:03as well as the
- 36:04different core
- 36:05functions that it
- 36:06takes to run an
- 36:07organization, I.E.
- 36:09Operations,
- 36:10Finance,
- 36:10Sales, Marketing,
- 36:12Finance, and
- 36:13Operations.
- 36:14So, that's what's
- 36:16next for us,
- 36:17so that'll be
- 36:18finalized within
- 36:19the next 30 days,
- 36:20and so that we
- 36:21can finally move
- 36:21forward, because
- 36:22we didn't hear
- 36:23about them, we
- 36:24didn't know about
- 36:24them last year,
- 36:25we just found
- 36:25out about them.
- 36:27And so that's how
- 36:28we're going to
- 36:28be implementing
- 36:29Team in the
- 36:29future, because
- 36:30that's going
- 36:31to free me up.
- 36:32Because like I
- 36:33said, I'm just
- 36:34now getting out
- 36:35of that, even
- 36:36though I know
- 36:37what to do, I
- 36:37know how to do
- 36:38it, but in agency
- 36:42life and in
- 36:43coaching life,
- 36:43there has to
- 36:44be somebody to
- 36:46keep your behind
- 36:47accountable, to
- 36:49assist them, to
- 36:51the clients, to
- 36:53the overall work.
- 36:54Somebody got to
- 36:55be able to pull
- 36:55you on the carpet
- 36:57that you listen
- 36:58to, because you
- 36:59got a bunch of
- 37:00yes people that
- 37:00you hire, you're
- 37:01not listening
- 37:01to them.
- 37:02Then that
- 37:03defeats the
- 37:03whole purpose.
- 37:04I, I desire that.
- 37:06And the reason
- 37:06why I desire that
- 37:07because House of
- 37:08Icons, I'm not
- 37:09dying with, I'm
- 37:09not going to be
- 37:1080 years old with
- 37:11House of Icons.
- 37:12This is going to
- 37:12be sold one day.
- 37:15I understand my
- 37:16exit strategy.
- 37:17This will be
- 37:17sold, but I need
- 37:18to build it in a
- 37:19way that allows
- 37:21the viability
- 37:22to be there.
- 37:23Definitely.
- 37:24If it's not,
- 37:24Thanks for being
- 37:25so vulnerable.
- 37:29Thank you for
- 37:29being really
- 37:30vulnerable and
- 37:30sharing that.
- 37:31Cause.
- 37:32Imperfect action
- 37:33is the theme of
- 37:34this episode, but
- 37:35also like really
- 37:36being honest
- 37:37with yourself.
- 37:37And I think
- 37:38that that's why
- 37:39we're excelling,
- 37:40excelling
- 37:40as a leader.
- 37:41You're not like
- 37:41out here trying
- 37:42to perform.
- 37:43And that's why
- 37:43I love so many
- 37:44of your posts on
- 37:45Facebook because
- 37:47Oftentimes,
- 37:48they're posts
- 37:48that are
- 37:48challenging
- 37:49us and they're
- 37:50the reels
- 37:50that are going
- 37:51through your
- 37:51day or through
- 37:52your time.
- 37:52So that clarity,
- 37:53right, like
- 37:54you're pushing
- 37:54that out even
- 37:55in the content
- 37:56that you're
- 37:56producing and I'm
- 37:57just, I'm super
- 37:58appreciative
- 37:58of it.
- 38:00But I thank you
- 38:00for saying it
- 38:01because sometimes
- 38:02I don't know.
- 38:04How people
- 38:05are taking it
- 38:06because a lot
- 38:06of times people
- 38:07aren't just
- 38:07saying things.
- 38:08But my thing
- 38:10is I always seen
- 38:11when I first
- 38:12got into this
- 38:13industry over a
- 38:14decade ago and
- 38:15up to now, you
- 38:17know, there have
- 38:17been people that
- 38:18have been doing
- 38:19Kat Williams
- 38:20like things.
- 38:22in our industry
- 38:23for years, years
- 38:24and years, and I
- 38:26always thought,
- 38:27well, if I just
- 38:27tell them myself,
- 38:29well, nobody have
- 38:30nothing to say.
- 38:31Like, yep,
- 38:32I did it.
- 38:33I was, I was,
- 38:33I was not good.
- 38:35I was not
- 38:35delivered yet.
- 38:36I, yep, I
- 38:37did that.
- 38:38And I, now I
- 38:39know better and
- 38:41we're going to
- 38:41keep pushing.
- 38:42So yeah, I did,
- 38:43I might have done
- 38:43something that
- 38:44was unsavory,
- 38:46not unethical,
- 38:46not illegal,
- 38:47not immoral.
- 38:48Those are the
- 38:48three things that
- 38:49we just don't do.
- 38:50Not illegal,
- 38:50not unethical,
- 38:51not immoral.
- 38:52But yeah, I
- 38:53messed up.
- 38:54I really did.
- 38:55Or we
- 38:56collectively
- 38:56messed up, and I
- 38:57say we because it
- 38:58might have been
- 38:59that team member.
- 39:00I didn't even
- 39:00know about it,
- 39:01but guess what?
- 39:02I pay them.
- 39:04It is my
- 39:04organization.
- 39:05So, a leader
- 39:06is responsible
- 39:07for everything
- 39:07that does and
- 39:08does not happen.
- 39:10Exactly.
- 39:12How can folks
- 39:13work with you?
- 39:14How can they
- 39:14become an Icon?
- 39:16What do those
- 39:17steps look like?
- 39:18So, for first
- 39:19off, if you're
- 39:20interested in
- 39:20being an Icon,
- 39:22number one.
- 39:23Just know that
- 39:25everyone in the
- 39:26world doesn't
- 39:27even, doesn't
- 39:28have that sense
- 39:30about themselves,
- 39:31that knowing,
- 39:32that awareness
- 39:32about themselves,
- 39:34that something
- 39:34could be better.
- 39:36So honor the
- 39:38fact that you
- 39:39are blessed with,
- 39:41that doesn't have
- 39:41to be a burden
- 39:43of you wanting to
- 39:44be better, of you
- 39:45desiring more,
- 39:46that doesn't have
- 39:46to be a burden.
- 39:47So number one.
- 39:48Thank you, be
- 39:49grateful for
- 39:50that awareness,
- 39:51that there's
- 39:51more, because
- 39:52you can think
- 39:53it is there.
- 39:54That's just it,
- 39:55you can think
- 39:55it is there.
- 39:56So the next
- 39:57thing is, what I
- 39:58would love to do
- 39:59is, one of two
- 40:00things no,
- 40:01it's just one.
- 40:02It's just one.
- 40:03I would love
- 40:04to find
- 40:05out how we can
- 40:06support you.
- 40:07So the way we
- 40:08do that is,
- 40:09just go to
- 40:09www.iconuniversity.co
- 40:14and you will
- 40:15see, where
- 40:18You know, you
- 40:18can go ahead and
- 40:20enroll into Icon
- 40:22University and
- 40:24you'll also see
- 40:24a place where you
- 40:26can like, Ooh,
- 40:27Icon University,
- 40:28I don't know yet.
- 40:28Maybe you need to
- 40:29find out why this
- 40:31is going to help
- 40:31you specifically.
- 40:33So we have
- 40:33something
- 40:34called the Icon
- 40:34Prescription.
- 40:36The Icon
- 40:37Prescription
- 40:38literally says,
- 40:40okay, so this,
- 40:41we look at, okay,
- 40:42this is what
- 40:43hurts for you.
- 40:44This is what
- 40:44you want to do.
- 40:46Let's prescribe
- 40:46you something
- 40:47that may like the
- 40:48ICON University
- 40:48and may not.
- 40:50But you can get
- 40:50both of those
- 40:51by going to
- 40:51iconuniversity.co
- 40:54Because if
- 40:54you don't want
- 40:55to enroll, we
- 40:56can help you
- 40:57with what's next.
- 40:59Even if it's not
- 41:01Yes, yes, and
- 41:03that's the big
- 41:03thing, y'all.
- 41:04I want y'all to
- 41:04know number
- 41:06one, the people
- 41:06we bring on
- 41:07here are legit.
- 41:08And we trust,
- 41:09we're trusting
- 41:09them and we
- 41:10trust you to
- 41:10make your, your
- 41:11biggest choice.
- 41:12But sometimes
- 41:13these type of
- 41:13prescriptions
- 41:14or clarity calls
- 41:15will give you
- 41:15an opportunity
- 41:16to maybe work
- 41:17with that person
- 41:17or maybe be
- 41:18connected to
- 41:18someone else.
- 41:19So, take
- 41:20yourself, take
- 41:21some time, like
- 41:22you said, to get
- 41:23the clarity, but
- 41:23don't be afraid
- 41:25to Step in and
- 41:27move into the
- 41:27next version
- 41:28of yourself.
- 41:29I really
- 41:30do believe that
- 41:31Icon University
- 41:33is the space
- 41:33where you can
- 41:34explore some of
- 41:35that and it will
- 41:35be a beautiful
- 41:36opportunity.
- 41:37So I'm really
- 41:37excited.
- 41:38We're going to
- 41:38put it in the
- 41:39show notes y'all.
- 41:40So go on and
- 41:40click there.
- 41:41You'll get
- 41:42more information.
- 41:43Family, thank
- 41:44you so much
- 41:44for being here.
- 41:45Thank you for
- 41:45honoring us with
- 41:46your time, with
- 41:47your energy,
- 41:47with your story.
- 41:48And I'm already
- 41:49got my wheels
- 41:50turning.
- 41:50I think I'm
- 41:51going to have
- 41:51to bring you
- 41:51back maybe for,
- 41:52You know,
- 41:53a black queer
- 41:54entrepreneur
- 41:54panel in the near
- 41:55and dear future.
- 41:56It's just,
- 41:57it's just been
- 41:57amazing to, to
- 41:58hear the voice
- 41:59of the person
- 42:00I'm following
- 42:01on Facebook.
- 42:01That's inspiring
- 42:02and doing so
- 42:03much amazing work
- 42:04and to really
- 42:04be able to hear
- 42:05your story.
- 42:05So thank
- 42:06you so much.
- 42:07And welcome.
- 42:08And thank you
- 42:08for having me on.
- 42:09I do not take
- 42:10this lightly that
- 42:11you invited me,
- 42:12that you allowed
- 42:13me to talk
- 42:13to the people
- 42:14who love you.
- 42:15Um, cause I
- 42:16honor that
- 42:17relationship.
- 42:18So thank
- 42:19you as well.
- 44:06Oh, I forgot
- 44:07one more thing.
- 44:08One more thing.
- 44:08Yes, go.
- 44:09For those of
- 44:10you who are on,
- 44:12and you know,
- 44:13you love what
- 44:14Evolve is up to.
- 44:15I'm letting
- 44:16you know that
- 44:17right now, if
- 44:17you say it, I'll
- 44:19make sure that
- 44:19you all have 50
- 44:20percent off of
- 44:21Icon University.
- 44:22Just that's it.
- 44:23Oh, snap.
- 44:26Y'all we get,
- 44:27we out here
- 44:27giving gifts.
- 44:28So make sure
- 44:28I look at them
- 44:29show notes.
- 44:30Like that is
- 44:30a blessing.
- 44:31Thank you so much
- 44:31for, for honoring
- 44:32the community
- 44:33with that.
- 44:34That's
- 44:34really dope.
- 44:35But y'all,
- 44:35don't, don't
- 44:36slip up on that.
- 44:37That's a
- 44:37discount, but
- 44:38it's not a
- 44:39discount of
- 44:39your time, of
- 44:40your labor.
- 44:41And of the
- 44:41love of your
- 44:42business, it's
- 44:42a discount on
- 44:43the investment.
- 44:44We need you to
- 44:44still invest that
- 44:45time and show up
- 44:46as a bond person.
- 44:48Cause
- 44:49FAM is trusting
- 44:50you with this
- 44:51opportunity.
- 44:51So thank you so
- 44:52much for that.
- 44:53Y'all until next
- 44:54time, please
- 44:55get out there.
- 44:56Tell someone
- 44:56new about your
- 44:57business and
- 44:58about your
- 44:58craft today.
- 44:59We only grow
- 45:00with building
- 45:01our audience
- 45:01by letting more
- 45:02people know,
- 45:03and I can't wait
- 45:04until our next
- 45:04interview until
- 45:05next time, peace.