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Barrios vs Garcia: Does Ryan Deserve Boxing's Respect? (No) · The Mixed Company Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In this corner, standing at six foot five, weight class unknowns,
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  Speaker 1: but hailing from the city of Sins. Put your hands
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  Speaker 1: together for Jamison will and in this then in his.
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  Speaker 2: Five foot ten, weighing in at pound and.
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  Speaker 1: Coming to us from his super secret bunker with no
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  Speaker 1: AC in Tucson, Arizona. Put your hands together for Luis Montemao.
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  Speaker 3: All right, thank you. Welcome back to another episode of
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  Speaker 3: Mix Coompany podcast. On one half of the show, I'm Jamison.
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  Speaker 3: I'm joined by Louise Luis uh, welcome to forty and
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  Speaker 3: how was your trip?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, holy crap amazing. So yes, I turned
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  Speaker 2: forty years old Sunday, February eighth, so this past Sunday
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  Speaker 2: before this is airing, and you know, I went to
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  Speaker 2: San Juan, Puerto Rico to celebrate, and honestly, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: even joking. It's probably the best birthday I've ever had.
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  Speaker 2: It was so fun. I had never been to the
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  Speaker 2: island before. I got to watch the Super Bowl with
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  Speaker 2: the Puerto Ricans watching Bad Buddy. And you know, we've
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  Speaker 2: talked on the show. But if we've said that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Puerto Rican boxing specifically there the Puerto Ricans will support
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  Speaker 2: their fighters. They'll come out for each other. And I
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  Speaker 2: knew that, but I didn't really know that until like
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  Speaker 2: I was there, and man, there everybody that was super friendly.
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  Speaker 2: They love their people, they love their island. They're so
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  Speaker 2: goddamn proud of of, you know, of being Puerto Rican,
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  Speaker 2: and it's it's a beautiful thing to to have experience.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's the eternal struggle of like, I want
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  Speaker 2: to go back, but I also want to travel somewhere
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  Speaker 2: new when I go somewhere else. But this is tell
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more detail. But you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: one of the best travel experiences I've ever had for
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  Speaker 2: a specific So yeah, yeah, but yeah, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: we'll we'll get into boxing and this will tie in
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  Speaker 2: with more boxing a bit. But uh, you know, this
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  Speaker 2: is the week where we can't ignore we are a
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  Speaker 2: sports show. You know, did you watch the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: Jamison or you an NFL guy at all? I know
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  Speaker 2: you're mostly basketball outside of it. Oh yeah, I follow
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. I definitely watched the game. The halftime show
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  Speaker 2: was really good, great production. Great.
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  Speaker 3: Even if you couldn't understand Spanish, you can appreciate the
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  Speaker 3: production and the energy of the show. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: what more people have to understand. It's not all about
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  Speaker 3: understanding the words of said songs. Because fit'sing different language
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  Speaker 3: than you're a customs then it's not gonna be that.
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  Speaker 3: But the energy, the production, the vision. It was tonight
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  Speaker 3: ten it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Like I.
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  Speaker 3: Knew bad, but it was not new. Benido was nice.
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  Speaker 3: I knew he was nice. I've seen the soldoul stadiums.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very aware, Like I'm very very I never wanted
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  Speaker 3: to a concert, but I've heard great things for people
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  Speaker 3: that are in the music game and that I take
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  Speaker 3: the news very seriously. When they called the best concert
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  Speaker 3: that they've ever been to and best before have ever seen,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay. And then I saw what I saw Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, ah, this is different, this is truly different.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was incredible. And I gotta say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all the people that were hitting on it because it's
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  Speaker 2: in Spanish blah blah, you know that there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stupid reactions where they were saying like, well, it's
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  Speaker 2: just because you know, we want to hear something in
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  Speaker 2: our language, like just or is it is it being
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  Speaker 2: racist that we just don't know this guy it's like,
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  Speaker 2: that's not what it's about. Okay, you can straight up
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  Speaker 2: say like I don't know who bad Money is. You
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  Speaker 2: can say I dislike his music. You can say I
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  Speaker 2: hate his music. That's fine, that's not a problem. But
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  Speaker 2: that's not what what y'all sons of bitches were doing.
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  Speaker 2: You were straight up mad that there was a brown
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  Speaker 2: man speaking Spanish and then you had to listen to it,
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  Speaker 2: And all I gotta say is you're idiots because you
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  Speaker 2: can't just experience joy, well, probably period, but specifically the
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  Speaker 2: joy of that show. Like, what's wrong with you all?
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  Speaker 2: You're just gonna die miserable?
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  Speaker 3: You know, Luis, you have a very energetic personality, especially
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  Speaker 3: when it comes about boxing, but it's in general you
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  Speaker 3: have a good spirit about yourself. A lot of people
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  Speaker 3: don't like they life, so when there's a chance in
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  Speaker 3: a poop poo on something, they going to do it
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  Speaker 3: to the umph degree. So a lot of people who
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  Speaker 3: are not happy in life, they look for things that
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  Speaker 3: they're not happy about and try to shut on it
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  Speaker 3: all the way through.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a big part of a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: people who are miserable.
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  Speaker 3: They're a miserable way before believing came about their lives
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  Speaker 3: aren't messed up one way or another regardless.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's great, that's fair, and I totally understand that.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I just when people, yeah, are miserable
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  Speaker 2: in their own lives, they always try to make everybody
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  Speaker 2: else miserable. And you know, I said that there's some
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  Speaker 2: people that just live their lives wrong. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: not a matter of like, you know, oh, I have
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  Speaker 2: different pinion that. No, if you're the kind of person
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  Speaker 2: who just wants to pooh poo things because you're miserable
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  Speaker 2: and make everybody's life grapy, you're just living in your
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  Speaker 2: life wrong. You're just bad at being an adult human person,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, has loosen up and has to God,
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  Speaker 2: get fun in your life. My God, right right right,
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  Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, so I got to tell you this,
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  Speaker 2: so one last thing about my trip, and we'll get
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  Speaker 2: into the stories in the news, but uh, I actually
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  Speaker 2: got to have the greatest experience while traveling because there's
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  Speaker 2: a neighborhood in San Juan called La Perla the Pearl.
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  Speaker 2: I'd heard about it from you know, my favorite band
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  Speaker 2: is Puerto Rican Cayetre say they sing about it. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's wild because it's not a toorist they placed at all.
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  Speaker 2: It's walled off from the rest of the city because
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  Speaker 2: back in the day, that's where the slaves used to
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  Speaker 2: have to be. Any people of color used to have
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  Speaker 2: to be there, apart from you know, the mainland. So
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  Speaker 2: it literally walled off. You have to take stairs to
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  Speaker 2: go down into La Pela, like there's a staircase. And
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  Speaker 2: I was told, you know, the conventional wisdom is dangerous,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just be there's drugs and there's gangs. So
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  Speaker 2: I asked the local like, what's like, what's the real
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  Speaker 2: story here, and they said, yes, there are drugs and gangs,
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  Speaker 2: but you have to be respectful and you know, do
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  Speaker 2: not take your phone out, do not take videos, do
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  Speaker 2: not take pictures. Someone will come up to you and say,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, buppy, and watch you delete that video off
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  Speaker 2: of your phone and go into the deleted files and
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  Speaker 2: trash can to make sure that it's gone. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they said, And by the way, they will not be asking.
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  Speaker 2: So I was even told this might be a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more visual for for you all who are watching
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube. But when you answer a phone call, you
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  Speaker 2: hold your phone covering the camera like this, right, so
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  Speaker 2: you don't answer your phone like this, you put the
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  Speaker 2: hand over the top part while you're talking and you're
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  Speaker 2: walking around that that neighborhood. So that's that's how serious
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  Speaker 2: it is. But Meda glasses. I saw a TikTok to
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  Speaker 2: somebody with the Meda glasses and I was like, Bro,
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  Speaker 2: that's you're gonna get in, Joel Bro, You're you're asking
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  Speaker 2: for trouble. So I think I think people are gonna
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  Speaker 2: start to get hip on the metaglasses and you might
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  Speaker 2: be told like, oh, your puppy was because that's what
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  Speaker 2: they got, a puppy. But yeah, so but I had
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  Speaker 2: the best time at an amazing time. They have a
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  Speaker 2: saying about that neighborhood, which is what the hardest thing
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  Speaker 2: I've ever heard is whistle mean there, which means if
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  Speaker 2: you go down there humble, you'll come back up humble.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair, right. So I told me that.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that's that's that's when we comble the
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  Speaker 2: fucking bars. But yeah, so I told him like, look, man, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know I one, I don't do drugs. My drug
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  Speaker 2: of choice is alcohol. So I just want to explore, travel,
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  Speaker 2: have a good time, you know, find some new bars
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  Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. So as long as everybody's cool with
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  Speaker 2: me saying no too drugs while I'm out and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to mess any with anybody, I'm cool. He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you should be fine. Went down there. I got to
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  Speaker 2: meet us a little nervous from the stories, but I
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  Speaker 2: met this friendly bartender. I told her I was visiting,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all humility, all due respect, and she actually said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you're with the local, you can actually
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  Speaker 2: take pictures of the area if you're given permission. Because
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  Speaker 2: oh one thing, I forgot the name to mention that
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  Speaker 2: neighborhood is where the video for this Basito was filmed.
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  Speaker 2: So that made it kind of popular, right, But they
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  Speaker 2: don't want like influencers or people coming in being like,
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  Speaker 2: oh this is this Parsiito neighborhood. They want to keep
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  Speaker 2: it locals only, so you know, it's very strict. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the bartender, she gave me a tour. They're like, you
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  Speaker 2: could take a photo here, do not take a photo
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  Speaker 2: over there. So I got to actually get tour the neighborhood,
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  Speaker 2: have pictures at a place you're not supposed to take
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  Speaker 2: your phone now with full permission, and it was just
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  Speaker 2: it was what it's an honor. I had a great
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  Speaker 2: time hit up an old and older gentleman that we
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  Speaker 2: were just chatting and drinking and having a great time.
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  Speaker 2: And that was Friday night, to the point where I
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  Speaker 2: went back to that neighborhood Sunday night for the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Oh right, very nice. Yeah, the old man that I saw,
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  Speaker 2: he remembered me, he said, I'll know us. So thousands
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  Speaker 2: of miles away from home, in a neighborhood where you know,
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  Speaker 2: people don't go got to it'd make a pal that
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  Speaker 2: was stoked to see me again. So right, right, So yeah, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: like one of the coolest things to be there. And
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  Speaker 2: the vibe of the neighborhood is just it's literally walled
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  Speaker 2: off with like another world. But it's everybody there is,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, so proud, so proud to be on
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  Speaker 2: that that everybody was so stoked about the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: and uh yeah, to sort of just be allowed to
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  Speaker 2: come in and be just a guest and you know,
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  Speaker 2: be allowed to be part of that experience with with
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  Speaker 2: with the Puerto Rican crowd. It was one of the
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  Speaker 2: coolest things ever happened to be in my life. So
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  Speaker 2: so shout out to Puerto Rico as they call it,
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  Speaker 2: and shout out specifically to la I really want to
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  Speaker 2: go back. Yeah, but if you're notoriusts, don't maybe you know,
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  Speaker 2: just ask around before, don't just don't just walk down there,
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  Speaker 2: you know. But right, But anyway, so, uh cool, So
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  Speaker 2: let's kind of keep this theme going, but also specifically
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  Speaker 2: talk about the fact that xander'ses and milianno Vodagas were
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  Speaker 2: in Bad Bunny super Bowl halftime show. So did you
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  Speaker 2: realize it was then when you watched it? Because I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't need these things were happening so fast. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know either.
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  Speaker 3: But as a person that has family from the islands,
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  Speaker 3: it was dope to see people from all different types, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I know, you're not a baseball guy, but Ronald Lacuna
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  Speaker 3: Junior was in there, Like it was just a lot
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  Speaker 3: of different people from a lot different places that was
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  Speaker 3: in it, and it was it was dope to see
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  Speaker 3: me after seeing the aftermath, like, oh they had this
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  Speaker 3: person in there because of this island and you had
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  Speaker 3: all I never get talked about. And obviously in Puerto Rico.
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  Speaker 3: Porto Rico is one of the most popular Caribbean islands,
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  Speaker 3: but there's a lot of other smaller islands that are
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  Speaker 3: very beautiful as well that I get very little talk talking.
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  Speaker 2: About, and I understand kind of why.
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  Speaker 3: But it was good to see every flag out there
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  Speaker 3: getting shine, even for thirteen minutes.
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  Speaker 2: It was really dope to see. Oh absolutely, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: know it's and the same thing too. There's things that
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  Speaker 2: I saw I was like, okay, this some of that,
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  Speaker 2: this means something. And things about the power lines and
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  Speaker 2: the power grid that I saw online afterwards, the reactions
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  Speaker 2: the lady from New York where he took a shot
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  Speaker 2: of a shot in the middle of the show was
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  Speaker 2: Puerto Rican Social Club in New York. I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: any of that, so, but I knew the crowd was.
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  Speaker 2: It was a good shed where I was. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so the fact that there were boxers in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the shit the performance and he went under them,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, uh, that's my thing. I like that,
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing I like. It was really awesome to see.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it was moving so fast that it was
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  Speaker 2: until after the fact that I realized that that was
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  Speaker 2: literally Eders is Puerto Rican fighter and Emiliano Vardagaz up
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  Speaker 2: and coming, you know, Mexican fighter going at it in
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  Speaker 2: the during the performance, which is really cool, you know.
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  Speaker 2: The I also learned firsthand that the Mexican Puerto Rico
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  Speaker 2: boxing rivalry is is it's a friendly one, but it's
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  Speaker 2: someone that people have really really strong opinions about.
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  Speaker 3: It's friendly today if that makes it right, Like it's friendly.
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  Speaker 3: Both both parties will fill out an arena. But it's
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  Speaker 3: friendly until it's championship rounds. It's a close fight, you know, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta fight. That's five four going on to the
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  Speaker 3: last few rounds. All, I bet we're gonna see how
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  Speaker 3: friendly it is, you know. So but yeah, no, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: You're definitely right. That's one of the more calmer rivalries,
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  Speaker 3: if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that does. I mean. I shout out to uh Ferrando,
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  Speaker 2: who's a young guy who was a server at a
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  Speaker 2: restaurant I went to. Place was not very packed, so
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  Speaker 2: he ended up he and I ended up having a
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  Speaker 2: good conversation. He brought up sports. I'm from Houston, so
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  Speaker 2: he said he was a fan of the ass Strows,
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  Speaker 2: which is cool, but he's we talked about boxing, and
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  Speaker 2: meant he went off straight up. He said if somebody
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  Speaker 2: talks bad about these that he'll he'll throw out, and
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  Speaker 2: you could tell he was not kidding. He was like,
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  Speaker 2: that's the kind of thing. Yeah, it's friendly until you
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  Speaker 2: you talk shit too much. Shit. Yeah, yeah yeah. My
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  Speaker 2: man specifically said that he dropped the bomb and says, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's millions and millions of people in Mexico,
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  Speaker 2: like whatever, over one hundred million. I don't know the population.
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  Speaker 2: And he was like, there's only three million million people
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  Speaker 2: in Puerto Rico and we have the same number of
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  Speaker 2: champions that y'all do. And I was like, okay, now
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  Speaker 2: let's getting real and that's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it makes sense though, because most of the
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  Speaker 3: islands are Third world countries. So whenever you have he wore,
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  Speaker 3: Puerto Rico's not a country, but you know what I
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  Speaker 3: mean whatever, So whenever you have poverty, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: people who are gonna do whatever takes to get off
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  Speaker 3: the island, which means boxing. So that makes total sense
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  Speaker 3: looking at the grand scheme of thing. When I think
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  Speaker 3: of I don't think of boxing off top. I think
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  Speaker 3: more of soccer more than anything first, but obviously gonna
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  Speaker 3: a lot of xkin boxers. But when whoever brought the
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  Speaker 3: argument up, it makes sense about Puerto Rico because yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to fight me off the island, like you're
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  Speaker 3: literally trying to get out any way you can. Baseball
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  Speaker 3: only goes so far. I don't really hear about Puerto
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  Speaker 3: Rican soccer like that. So boxing makes the most sense
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  Speaker 3: that that adds up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to be clear, apologies to buye people,
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  Speaker 2: but the Mexican population is like over one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: thirty million, just over Yeah, yeah, didn't know that off rip. Also,
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  Speaker 2: my man said that you know, he will go to
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  Speaker 2: his grave saying that Migho Koto was robbed against Floyd Mayweather.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about That's take Jameson and I
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  Speaker 2: watched the fight.
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  Speaker 3: I know that fight all of my my good friend
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  Speaker 3: who's very attractive, her name is Eric.
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  Speaker 2: She's bad still to this day.
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  Speaker 3: We were watching the fight of my boy who's actually
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  Speaker 3: a barching her out here in Vegas. We're watching at
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  Speaker 3: his spot with all his family, a couple of coworkers
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  Speaker 3: of his. I remember we're at Remember we had to eat.
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  Speaker 3: I remember everything. All his kids were either middle school
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  Speaker 3: or just start starting high school, and now they're all
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  Speaker 3: wrong with kids and stuff. So I remember everything about
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  Speaker 3: that whole night. Ain't no damn Wade, Ain't no damn
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  Speaker 3: wa anyone watched that fight. Going back at it, Andy
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  Speaker 3: being like Codo, Now, I will say Coto was competitive.
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  Speaker 3: He was a competitive when eighteen one twelve, it was competitive.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't like a blowout to where I'm wasting my time.
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  Speaker 3: Floyd had to work, but it wasn't no like I
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  Speaker 3: think Floyd may even swept a card on the decision,
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  Speaker 3: but it wasn't no clu like.
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  Speaker 2: Nah man nah no. You know, I'll let I'll let
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  Speaker 2: both of your opinions stand. I won't have any of
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  Speaker 2: my own. But you know that's goes to show you, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just how how invested. But yeah, but yeah, that kid
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  Speaker 2: also said that he was born in two thousand and six,
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  Speaker 2: which I think should be illegal. That should absolutely be
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  Speaker 2: illegal to be born that after too house Come.
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  Speaker 3: On, yeah, I mean I get it because if you're
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  Speaker 3: a kid back in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, and you
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  Speaker 3: saw that and you're from that, I can understand having
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  Speaker 3: some feelings about it.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, nah, we're not gonna do that like that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: We all got cultural repride, right, we all got pride
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  Speaker 3: and our people on our cultures. Ain't no way. I
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: mean you could say the flight was close. You could say, yeah,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: one eighteen, one twelve and one seventeen. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: that's why I figured, ain't no other way.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Ain't no, no, no, no, no, no. All right, Well,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if you're listening. I did tell
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: them to follow the show on social media. So that's
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: that's what we got. You know, if you you want
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: to come on the show and give us your takes,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: you know, that kid was very very much a boxing expert,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: so we'd love to have you.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: But yeah, can you ask them about old boy that
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: fought in the garden all last month? Beat in the
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: garden inside Joe walked out, No longo Herlina probably at no,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: I did not. Yeah, yeah, I act about him.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I forgot to. I forgot to mention. I often forget
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: to mention Edgar Burlega like in any context. So no,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't understand. It's easy, I understand, I get it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I get it. Well, here's the thing you could love
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: where we could support your people and and like you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: come out for them and root for them, etceteracea. But
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: at some point I can't imagine, like you have to
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: admit some of your what if your guy's gonna be asked?
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: You know, Black people support Adrian Barner for a long time,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: So I don't don't feel bad. Everybody's got thin people
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: that funk up and ain't good anymore. Like Black people
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: support Adrian Bonner till they couldn't. So it happens. We
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: all have our you.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Know, are we Yeah? But I think we're there yet
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: with Berlega like.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Was good at one point, right, at least Browner had
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: had a future at one point in time that was
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: not I've never seen what blo so certain box with
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: certain fighters. If I don't see it, I don't see it,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: like I force myself to see it. Well, I can't
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: force something. Ah, it's gonna know if it ain't there,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: it ain't there, Like I'm sorry, but I.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Just yeah, no, no, Well, and you know, we we've
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: said this about Edgar Langa before. You know, he very
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: specifically was hyped up because of his one round knockouts.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: You know, whatever it's nine ten in a row, et cetera.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I remember getting excited. I was like, oh, who the
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: hell is this guy who's doing this? So that's understandable
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, but it's also a very different landscape.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: That's because there's a social media clip reels of him,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: highlight reels of him doing that, right, which has passed around,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and that's what people watch, and you know that they
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: get they hyped off of that. Uh so yeah, I mean,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I guess like, here's the thing I would I actually
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: would love to talk to somebody from the island on
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: the show to ask them how they feel about Edgar
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: bed lying out right now.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Correct opinion too, not a fandom opinion is breakdown because
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: here's the thing here, here's the issue.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: We all have our natural.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Attachments to boxers from that it always happened, right, But
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: as a fan of the sport, there has to be
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: a decision that's made where hey, man, this just ain't
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: working out. Like I'll support you from a distance, but
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I can't keep supporting you know, bs performance in the ring.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I can't support this. It comes a time now. Some
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: people jump off the train earlier than others. Some people
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: never jump off me personally. Once you don't take the
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: fight seriously. Twice I jump off because here's the thing.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I'm taking time out of my life to watch you.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: If I'm making sacrifices, I think you'd make sacrifice become
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: a better boxer.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: If you're not gonna do that, then I gotta go.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I gotta go. I hope everything works out, but I can't.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: It gotta be both ways, you gotta especially when used
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: to paper you too. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: you got one bs paper fight for me? So that
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: fire stick, Yeah nah, you.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Got to to dis interested to be fights rights, I
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: had one.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I'm too precious, man, I ain't got time. And to
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: be honest with you, there's a lot of other younger
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: boxers I could spend time on to see who's gonna
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: be next to who's that guy? Like?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Why should we waste our time on me? The ocre?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: And we got guys that are out there trying to
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: prove themselves. Yeah, one hundred percent, you know. And I always,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: of course a very attached to Mexican boxers as well,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and being Mexican American, I have that you know, attachment too.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: But I'll say, you know, I try my best to
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: to really like focus on who I think is the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: better fighter and you know, the better skills. So what
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I mentioned to to this this this feetut server of ours,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I said, you know, an old Crawford. I'm the one
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: who said, not only do I think Crawford is gonna win,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: but I want him to win. I think I want
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: him to to to get his dues.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: So you know, so have you seen an interview since
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: with like Canello talk, I wish we had a rematch,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and any any noble person would give me a rematch
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: after they also big fire. Any person that won this
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: fight would have you know, she get the remats. Blah
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: blah blah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Have you seen all that stuff? Since I did see
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: him A man a salty My man is salty. So
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: but also if you were hurt, then you should have
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: pushed the fight back. That's true, that's right, he did say. Yeah.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: But I didn't realize is he said that he had
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: an injury prior. I thought it wasn't. He was injured
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: afterward the fact, so I thought so too.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: When he said prior, I was like, oh, well, you
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: should have said something because for this amount of money,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: for what was at stake, that night.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: You need to be one hundred percent. Now.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: With that being said, I don't think that changes would
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: happen from what I saw in that ring that night,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: unless it was a hand injury or eye injury.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think that really changed much.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I just feel like styles abilities at that particular time
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: of each other's careers.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I think the result would have been the result.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: We may have had a much closer fight, but I
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: don't think it changed the whole.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think it changes an overall result. Agreed, But
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: how easy is it to fight of that magnitude that's
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: at a football stadium. I mean they had trouble kind
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: of picking the date because of the football team. Anyway,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, the sooner the better.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: So if you notice something's not right, you have to
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: say something because you can. You can move the fight
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: a month out.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: You can.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: There's enough time to make things shake, but you gotta
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: do it quicker, so everybody. So the hotels can adjust,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: the airlines can adjust, everybody can adjust. So sorry, so
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: some gonna get off quick. People that a first doesn't
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: know this Vegas. Whenever Vegas holds an event like this,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: the boxing promotion companies get paid a lot of money
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: from the City of Las Vegas and the transit Authority
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: because so many people are coming in town that vegat
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Obviously everybody's getting taken care of, so the promotion companies
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and networks, everybody gets a little piece of the pie
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: from Vegas because they're bringing so many people to town. Anytime
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: you have that, you can make whatever date work. Because
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: there's so much money involved. No one's passing that up,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: so you could have changed whatever date you needed. If
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: you needed to change for a month or two out,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: they could have put it in late October or November.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: There's enough open dates in that stadium for there'd have
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: been an adjustment to be done if necessary. There was
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: enough time to where, hey, you know what, my guy's
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: out for a month or six weeks. Let's push back.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Let's push back the fight till the end of November
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Thanksgiving week and or leaking before Thanksgiving, whatever it needed
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: to be. Because there's so much money involved, they just
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: would have made it work. The TV networks would have
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: everybody would have made it work. So there wouldn't have
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: been no uh we can't, no, no, no, no no. When
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: you have that kind of fight on the table, with
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: that kind of money involved. If they want to fight
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: that show on Tuesday, they would have had on Tuesday.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: There's a way to get it done, so to me,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and is old enough to know that. So to me,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I feel kind of disrespected and slide when he says
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: that because you knew you were hurt, you still thought
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: a lost. If you would have won, we would have
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: never heard that. So that he was like, nah, bru.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: But you were the first person to mention the type
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: of bulpy that Canelo was. You called him stocky, not lean,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: and those kind of fighters do not work versus Tane Crawford.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: If you're gonna beat a Tance Crawford type, you need
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: to be athletic. You need to be able to move,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: You need to be able to beat him to the
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: punch consistently. And Canelo was not to be that guy.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Looking back on it, on that night, at this stage
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: of his career, maybe earlier, but at this stage, the
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: energy and athleticism he would have needed was not there.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what I what I've always said is that Canelo
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: was a little guy that beefed up. He got beefy
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and he moved better. As a little guy. He had
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to wait a great run when he became undisputed at
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: super middleweight, don't get me wrong, but didn't didn't move
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the same as he did at middleweight, and then didn't
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: move the same you know, the year after he became
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: a disputed that came a plant flight was fantastic, you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that's that's still one of the most fun I had
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: going out to watch boxing. Uh so, not to anything
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: way from that, but after that you could tell it
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: was night and day essentially from the way he moved.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: So yeah, agreed. I mean, at the end of the day, yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you're right, he could have said something. He knows. You know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: he's not a newbie, he's not a baby in this industry.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: So I have no sympathy. I mean, you chose to
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: fight with an injury or you know, not at one
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: hundred percent and you didn't have to, So you take
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the l and walk away and just accept that. Budd
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: is walk away up. There's a clip going around of
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I forget who the interview was, asking Bud, you have
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: to have a number to come back, right, one hundred million,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty whatever, and Bud said no, because then
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: you're selling your soul and money's not everything. You clearly
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: are perfectly fine selling your soul, he told the interview,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: which I was like, damn, But here's the thing. You
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: wouldn't fault. But if he decided to come back, I
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: don't think he is.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: But if he decided to come back, I don't think
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: he would now that one hundred million dollars on the table.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I do think if if he he was the.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: A side of a rematch and he was getting on
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: a hundred plus million, I would not be surprised if
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: he came back. I don't think he does, though, but
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I would understand because the reason why Canal is really
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: upset there's no other nine figure fight for Canelo anymore.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: That's the issue.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Obviously, with Jake Paul getting his jaw broke to there's
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: definitely no more there's no more opponents for him to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: get that kind of payday with that's out there anymore.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: That's the biggest reason why Canal is pissed. Is not
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: because he lost, is because they're not up heyday has
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: drastically changed because with him it is profit rematching. It's
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: another two hundred plus million dollar fight. Altogether, both guys
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: probably get nine figures this time. That is not the
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: case going forward, and who can really fight Canela right
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: now where it's like a big fight. He's not fighting Benavidez.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: We know that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: We ain't gonna waste no more time on that that
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: ain't happening. So who else does he fight? Who else
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: is he gonna garner enough attention and energy with to fight?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I don't see it, agreed, and just sorry. I'm not
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: sure who that person was you mentioned who got his
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: job broke, and I don't recognize that name, but I
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: heard I heard you. Yeah, yeah, shout out. I'm not
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: sure from the.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: UK, the big heavyweight from the UK that dude is.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go name, We were gonna have descriptions, so
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: it's all good.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: But no, Yeah, I'm agreed with you. Here's the thing
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: about Canelo losing to Bud. I agree that he would
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: not fight him, but did not retire. I don't think
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: he's going to rematch people before Canelo retires. I think
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna fight Benavidez because again, these are feeble
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: and Benavidez are big dudes. Uh, but as a little
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: dude that beefed up but still has that athleticism in
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: the way the movement of a little guy and Canelo
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: stuck in the middle is like he's in the worst
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: possible position right now for him. Uh and here's the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: hey man, I just turned forty and you're from nineteen
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: eighty six as well. Let's come in for you as well.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I bet it's really hard for Canelo to trip down
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: too too much with his age, even though obviously he's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: an excellent shape and didn't just spend his entire weekend
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: getting shithouse drunk on the Porter can rum. Even so
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: for somebody who works out all the time, it's it
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: can't be that easy. It can't. It just can't. Definitely.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, So now that's that's a really good point
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: about just where he is kind of in limbo. A
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Chris you Bank Junior potential matchup was was thrown out there,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: hard to say, I mean, here's but you're I guess
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter at the end of the day, whoever
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: he fights. You're right. The point is it's not going
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to be a major payday and he's gonna get his
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: fans come out to support him. I will watch him,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I will support him because I'm still a Canello fanboy.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: But it's not the same it's not the same as
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: him fighting uh, you know, a big name as opposed
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: to uh, just one of those in between fights that
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: he has. Sometimes you're like, I'm gonna see my guy
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and then he's fighting some other nobody. You know. Ah,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I say nobody. I've already said that. I hate when
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: a boxing fans say that. I'll take that back. But
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the interesting thing about Christy Bank Junior. Another thing that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I said is that maybe if there's like a something
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: about one of his fights that is different to get
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: people hyped up, if he fights in London. He said
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: he's always wanted to do that. You know, his fight
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: against the Cuban guy that was very boring. That was
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: in Saudi Arabia. You know, that was kind of an
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: exciting thing that him. They used to kind of sell
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: that it's like Canelo's first fight in Riad. Maybe they'll
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: say Canelo overseas in London. Another thing, when he fought
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: in Mexico and waller Ja against John Ryder, the British
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: guy that I had never heard of. Same thing. This
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: thing is sold out in like five minutes, right, you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: and that and that fight was cut pretty pointless, Like
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: John Ryder had no chance, and it was just getting
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: dominated the entire the entire match. So I don't know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: maybe that's where he goes and you know, kind of
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: makes that one of his last two fights fighting overseas
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: and gives a just gives a little bit more flair,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I guess, is what you say. Most definitely, Yeah, but
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with that guy. You know, still
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: a fan still, you know, I agree that we're not
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: going to see someone of his caliber anytime soon. Mexican
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Mexican American. So yeah, let's move on here. I got
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: my notes. Okay, So if y'all did not notice, we
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: dropped a minisode last week. Typically it's our off week,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: but we wanted to talk about the Shaq Corse Stephens
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: and fight versus Tophi Malopez. We didn't want to wait,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and we only talked about that. I do kind of
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: want to mention Keishon Davis specifically from that night as well,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: because you know, there's a big controversy about him missing
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: weight at his previous fight in his hometown, his hometown show.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: His fight got canceled, and neither of us were happy. Jamison,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you were a lot less happy than I was. We
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: talked about it beforehand. You know what we needed to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: see to welcome Kishan back into the fold. You said,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: dominating performance based on what you saw. I mean, where
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: are you at? Do you think he's back in our
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: good graces? Are you still kind of like? But he is.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Because the boxing is good, right, As long as the
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: boxing is good, he'll be in our good races. He's
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: gonna hope if he ever throws something in his hometown again,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: hopefully it's on point. Hopefull there's no more Shenanigans. But
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: for the most part, boxing wise, he's fine. Got to
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: you to get better because what happens. There's a lot
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: of these young guys. They don't always progress. Sometimes they
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: say stagnant. Sometimes he gets too big. So hopefully he's
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: a younger guy, Hopefully things keep progressing. Hopefully he stays
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: active too. That's a guy that needs to fight most.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: He has a type of fighting style to where if
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: he fights three times a year, he can get casual.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Fans can't say it. Can't say that about everybody, but
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: he's one of the few guys where if he's fighting
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: once a fiscal quarter, you might be able to catch him.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Some random sports fans that randomly come across his clips,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what's missing from boxing in general,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: is we don't have guys being active enough to capture
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the random sports fan that is eager to no name,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: they're eager, but hey, I follow boxing occasionally. So a
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: guy like that, that's that talented and that's dominating a ring. Yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: he has actionally. The reason why I am so mad
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: about that whole thing in his hometown last year, it
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: wasn't because you know, he was lazy or just dispectful.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: He has true star talent and right now, we don't
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: have a lot of boxers that have true star talent
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: that could carry a car. We don't have that many.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: So to see one fuck things up, excuse my language,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: was very disappointing. On a grand scheme. It wasn't the
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: box and the box is gonna be what's gonna be.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: He's gonna be a very good boxer. We need stars,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: let's say star sport. We don't come to box for
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: the Gurneman. No one really cared about the German like that,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Like it's cute when they have a good fighter, they
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: have a lucky night, But we're here for the stars.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: When we have a star potential.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: We got to groom that star, get them ready for startup,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: and he's on that trajectory. Hopefully he's back on that
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and going forward he's able to get to that level
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: because right now, well, Davonte Davis getting caught up in
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: a situation he's caught up in really sucks. You gave
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: your opinion of him as a boxer, but him getting
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: caught up and not fighting when he's probably the most
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: attractive boxer to the casual fan there is because Alice
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: style is him not boxing really sucks. We can't have
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: any more Misshouse for anybody else that's really good.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: We just can't. So that's why I was really mad
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: at Keishaana.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Sorry for rambling on, but that's why I was so
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: furious at Keshan Davis. It wasn't because an error happened,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: and no, it's because when you you don't get these
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: opportunities that often you don't get the stardom approach van often,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: so when you do, you better take advantage of it
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: or else it's not gonna work out.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Sure, I'm not trying to like, you know, downplay you
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: know your you being upset. It was more definitely that.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I was just like, well, you know, he missed, waited,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: and he picked the wrong weight class, and yes, he
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: should have said something early again, and you know he's
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: got to deal with the consequences of not speaking up
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: and being shun So I was never anything, you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: but he also didn't he didn't do anything the fucking
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: take has done, you know, definitely yeah, so so yeah,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: so yeah, you know, something like that for me. You
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: know that type of I guess derision is reserved for
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: somebody that's like really really uh just it's really a
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: fucking asshole. Let's just say it being a scumbag and
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So you know, he fucked up,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: you know, he's uh you know. The one thing he
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: did is he went up in weight class to super
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: super lightweight correct, Yeah, so excuse yeah, because he was
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: at lightweight against he was supposed to find ou when
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Dela Sento's couldn't make it, so he went to go
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: up and be goes all right, well, I mean you
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: should have done this in the first first place if
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: you realize you're having trouble. I mean, how many boxers
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: do that as they get older, Like that's what they do.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So so you know, not
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: trying to excuse any of that, again, not trying to
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: try to diminish what you were what you said on
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: the show, but yeah, and he definitely would have diff
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: was very different at this weight. You know, he seemed
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: to be taking it a little more easy, you know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: kind of playing a little but safe for at the beginning.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Definitely wasn't the stoppage early Keisha on that we saw
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: against Dennis Barncheck, which was a four round stoppage with
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the body shot, which is awesome. But he did get
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: the stoppage, which is actually amazing because it was ten
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: seconds before the end of the final round for the
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: end of the actual fight. So you know, powers there,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: maybe he was feeling out the weight early on. So
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: maybe his next fight, when he's like even more comfortable
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: at that weight in that ring, his next opponent might
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: be might be put on the ground a lot earlier, right,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: and that next opponent might be Devin Haney. He called
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: him out after that fight.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: What do you think, Hey, that's a good matchup. That's
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: a very good that's a on paper, it's a very
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: good matchup. That's one of those ones where whoever wins
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: goes to a different level in terms of like everything
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: It's a very very good matchup. Agreed, I want to
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: see it. I would. I want to see that more
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: than the Devin Haney Ryan Garcia that we don't need that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I'm still I've been on record that I want to
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: see it based on how Devin Haney progressed. So I'll
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: take it. You know, I'd be happy to see it,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: but I would much rather see him fight.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I think that's a good challenge for both guys. I
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: think that's one of those ones where you've got to
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: kind of dig deep the win that fight. You're not
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: going to show up and win. I think Khan would
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: probably favor in that. But that's a good fight. I
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: think overall it's a good, good fight.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I would bet my money on Keishan only because of
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: we've seen what David Devin Haney cannot do. We've seen
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: him falter more than once now uh again, you know,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: really excited about how he looked in that ring against
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: uh Brian Norman Jr. So respect him for that, let's
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: not take it take any of that away from him.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: But we've we've seen him at his worst. We have
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: not seen Keishan at his worst in the ring. We
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: saw him fuck up and not being able to get
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: in the ring, So it's a different kind of kind
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: of screw up, if that makes sense. That's correct. Speaking
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: of Devin Haney's former opponent who just keeps popping up
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: and we have to keep talking about him, even though
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like I'm over the sky, right Garcia? We
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: mentioned before we'll be back against Mario Barrios on February
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: twenty first, which is our off week, so kind of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: talked about before of where rang Garcia is and how
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: he really needs to win and needs to get back himself,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: get back into good graces himself because he had two
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: losses in a no contest. He's still getting these opportunities
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: because his name, he has a following. I'm kind of
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: just I'm hoping that he loses me we kind of
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: stop having to talk about him as a as a
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: main event fighter. But I mean, we're gonna We're gonna
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: make a prediction on this fight. But Jameson, what do
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: you think, what's uh, how do you think he's going
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: to stack up against Money Boters, who is a good fighter,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: probably could be better, definitely should have looked definitely should
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: have defeated old men Pecchiel.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I honestly don't know, Like I don't know what Ryan
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I'm getting. I truly do not know, Like it's from
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: what I've heard. I've heard the preparation has been better
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: this time around, but I don't know. I can't trust him,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: that's the thing, and not trust like you know, I
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: trust what my prediction right if I pick him to win,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I don't trust him like that, Like I don't trust
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: him with my word, because he's one of those guys
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: where if it's a close fight, he gets rattled. The
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: whole game plans out the window to where if it's
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: a competitive fight and there's a little bit adversity, all
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: bets are off.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: However, talent wise and athleticism wise, there's something there that
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: versus most opponents he has an advantage over, so it's
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: tough to not pick Ryan. However, like you mentioned here,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Else's last fight was pretty impressive.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: It wasn't bad, so I don't know.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: I'd probably I mean, also, this is Ryan's last chance,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: so I'd probably go Ryan based off of that and
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: just being like hey, like you're not headlining anything else,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: after this, you might be on cards because you're popular,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: but headlining this is probably the last one. So I
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: would probably go with Ryan if I had to find
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: a guess.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And I just realized that you'd probably clarify
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: something I said. My dew Butter should look better against Pacquiao, who,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, the man's living legend, one of the greatest
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: boxers ever. I just say, because he's forty seven. I mean,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: come on, man, if.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: We didn't have we had expectations what pak Yao would
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: look like in that matchup. That's why it was so surprising.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: But like you mentioned, Pakia was in shape. He didn't
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: look old, and normally that's not the case for most
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: forty seven year old boxers. Most of the time they
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: are out of shape or they're not sharp. That was
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: the opposite for that. So yeah, by at the same time,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: you're right, like, you're absolutely correct.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's that eternal struggle of like, you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: living an absolute living legend who you know, time comes
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: for everybody, so uh, it's I also don't want to
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: take anything away from you know, pacchia skills. Obviously he
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: showed up and he looked great in that ring against
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: the younger dude. So, but here's the thing. I've always said,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: we learned more from our losses than our wins. I
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: believe that in boxing, and I believe it in life.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that Madrio Bardios he has better a
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: ring i Q than Rangercia, and ring IQ is a
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: thing that's definitely got him in Jove before. I'm hoping
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: that Badrio's learned from his fight against Pacio, learned, you
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: know what, how to how to increase his ring i
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Q against Ryan, and if he he just doesn't get
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: caught with a really really strong punch because Ryan has
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: that undeniable power. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anybody can get caught.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: It only takes one punch. We've said this a million times.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: But if I definitely I'm gonna I would get picked boys. Also,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: part of it is because I kind of want to
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: see Ryan Garcia kind of his his esteem lowered him him,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: but his name being no longer at the top of
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: the cards, let's let's get some other, some other more talent.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: It won't it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Won't change because he's a guy. For amount of guys
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: in his weight class that are still prevalent, he will
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: always be a guy that even if he's not the
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: main event guy, he's gonna be on the sec or
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: a third fight, just because he is a name and
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: he can fill a fight. So if he's a if
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: he's people will still tune in to watch him fight,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: even if he's not good.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: It's a thing. Oh, don't get me wrong. That's that's
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: what I want. I when I say see his name
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: no longer be in the top, I'm fine with him
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: being second and third and I'll tune in. Don't get
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: me wrong, I'm just saying, how about here's what Here's
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: what I want to say. There are much more talented
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: fighters who deserve to be at the in the main cards,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: and Ryan Garcia I agree. So I'm perfectly happy with
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: him being the second name on that list. That's cool,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: And I think we've kind of kind of stretched it
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: as far as we could again, especially because he had
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: two losses in a no contest, and because you know
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: that we've talked many times about how the sport is
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: so unforgiving. I think we should be more forgiving. But
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: if he loses this one, that's as much forgive forgiveness
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: as he should be getting.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, at that point, we can't
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: take you seriously no more because you're not taking the
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: craft seriously.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, you got no contests and losses. What we're doing, like,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: what are we what are we doing here? And you've
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: said this for I'll like a way, you know, no
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: disrespect against Roly Romero, but uh, he he lost it
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: because he was just he's snoozing in that ring. So
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: losing with all due respect, Yeah, so I kind of
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: think he the sport hasn't been disrespectful to Ryan Garcia enough,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: has that? Uh perfectly said. Yeah, So I'm gonna I'm
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: betting on a Barrios win because not only I think
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: he could, he could potentially pull it off with ring
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: a cu but I just want it. That's what I
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: want to see. I think. Also, Ryan Garcia, you said
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you've been hearing that the prep is better. But I've
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: heard that like a few times now. Prep has been
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: better and better and better, even though after the fights
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: that he's lost, he's been the new Ryan, you know,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: three or four times now. It's true. Plus you know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: not to say this, he's the only one, but you
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: know he's got a huge ego. He's probably gonna go
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: in and thinking, well, I'm gonna win. But even if
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I don't, I'm still a name, I still have falling,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I'm still gonna be making money. So that's kind of
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: why if that happens, I can see a Barrios win,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: and that's actually, you know what we should be not
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: the odds. Do you have that? I keep it putting
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: moment here because the way the way I bet when
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I do, and it's not often, you know, I've always
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I tried to bet on the underdog because I don't
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: want to. I want to make more return for my money.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, I always have to really
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: really want to believe that the underdog could win. So
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I right, if Ryan Garcia is favored, I personally would
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: put money on a Barrios win. For Yeah, he's minus
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: two sixty three eighty. Yeah, Ryan's favorite, Bile.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: That's a healthy amount of favoritism.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't necessarily agree with that.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: That's kind of high, but I get it because he's
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: a name, so I get it.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't I wouldn't bet him. I would go brio,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: so I had to bet it. Yeah, And that's kind
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: of what if I really believe. If I can't believe
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: the underdog could pull it off, if I don't feel
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: it in my heart of hearts, I wouldn't put money
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: on it. Uh so I think you could, so yeah, yeah,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: well we definitely want to gonna have to start putting
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: up the odds during these fights more often, because just
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I'm curious. I always like to put money on a draw,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: just because you can put a dollar with like what
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: thirties times they've changed.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: It's not as dramatic as it used to be back
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: in the day, a draw by like fifty to one, right,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: because this is so rare. You do always have split
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: decisions and majority of decisions all that. Now the draw
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: is so much more common. If you bet it on
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the night of the fight, the number's gonna be so
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: low because it gets bet down so much. But you
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: bet when the line originally comes out, you're probably like
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: twenty five to one, thirty to one, which is a
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: good number, which is a very good number.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I put I put five bucks on a
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: draw between Shakuri and to Femo, and then between Kishan
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and Jermaine Ortiz the last time, just because if I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: lose ten bucks, then you know, it's not gonna hurt me.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: But if I win one of those, it'd be like
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: eighty eighty five, is what I was making. Facts. Facts. Yeah,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: so yeah, that's usually no matter what, I'm gonna start
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: putting a couple on to draw just in case because
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be an amount that it's not gonna
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna feel it. Thanks so much,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: So cool. Well, that's uh, that fight for ran Garcia
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: versus Mario Badios is the twenty first and so you
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: know our episode after that will be a recap of
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: what happened. And if as long as you know, plans
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: don't change and nothing out of the ordinary happens, well,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I don't have a special guest to discuss that fight with,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: so be sure to tune in. All right, speaking of guests,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that we brought this up
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: because you know, two episodes ago we had a roundtable
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: with a buddy of mine, Tony Samorano, absolutely crushed it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: He is gonna be back on the show, big boxing expert,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: you know, big fan. He and I would just chat
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: about it every time I would run into him, typically
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: at a craft beer bar in Tucson and decided to have
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: him on the show and meant his amazing uh the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Three of Us, you know, the chemistry between him and
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: the three the two of Us was super super cool.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: So I can't recommend that episode enough. Go check it
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: out and I post clips on social media and his
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: you know, his spicy take on Mexican boxer is getting
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: some some you know, nice feedback. Not a lot of
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: people being really like assholes yet about it or want
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: to argue, which is cool. We want to make sure
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: that don't be mean, don't be rude. We're all here
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: to discuss the best sport in the world, all right,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Like you can disagree, you know, you can strongly disagree,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: but just make sure you know. But the comments have
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: been cool. I'm just saying for the future. But let's
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: check out this this short and then we're read off
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: a couple comments because I want to give people shout
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: outs because I really appreciate them commenting from Mexico. But
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Oscarili is Mexican American. Yeah, we have another Mexican American
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: coming over to take over the rains.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Like the so there's a dude who is straight out
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: of Mexico. There's no equation in which a Mexican American
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: fighter can carry the weight of a true Mexican fighter
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: in regard to popularity and relevance.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And make sure that if you are on listening to
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: this on audio, check us out on YouTube. Can check
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: out those handsome mugs that are on the screen just now.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean that's a really interesting take. You know. Also,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: none of this is really like it's not an argument
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: or a debate really like we're not speaking here because
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: you know, we're trying to be proven right or take
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: take an l on a conversation. We just wanted to
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: share how we're feeling. And I'm glad that people are too.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: You know, Spider is in the mail on YouTube, which
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: is a hilarious user name said bs us Chicanos can
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: handle the way plus stand and say next. So definitely
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: appreciate that take, because hey, you know, I was born
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: in Texas. I'm text mex My parents are from both
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: from Mexico. They crossed the border and I was born.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: So it's not one of those things like people say, oh, yeah,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: my grandma, great grandma immigrated from wherever years ago, like now, bro,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Like Spanish was my first language, so again, you know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: We're not saying this to start a fight. I'm saying that,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: you know we I have a lot of pride in
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: our Mexican American Chicino fighters as well. But let's see,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Nico said Oscar was led. This is on TikTok by
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: the way, he says, Oscar was loving the boxing world
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: either from the USA, Mexico all over. People that love
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: boxing are not into boxing, and there will never be
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: another Oscar and Oscar is a born American. Really good point,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: because we talked about just how popular and mainstream Oscar
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Deelia was. The thing that I always kind of wanted
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: to add in context. Again, not arguing, but Oscar got
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of hate from from Mexico. Why hate?
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: I remember Fanlfargus told everybody he was not a real
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Mexican and that was a big deal before their fight.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: It was a very it was a very, very big
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: deal before they matched up in early two thousands.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's hard for me to say so I'm
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: from the inside looking out because my mother will still
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: talk shit about oscardell Oh yeah, and I have to
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: be like mom, you can't say that anymore. Twenty twenty six,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Come on, we're all woke up. Bro, you can't talk
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: about him like that. So but yeah, she she may
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: colas about him being an authentic and just not very
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: madly let's say so. But I don't know. I mean,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: you know, there's still that other side of it. He
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: was being streaming loved by a lot of people. But
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the way I always thought in my experience, it was
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: always that, yeah, Mexicans from Mexico saw him as not
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Mexican enough. He didn't speak Spanish, and he just wasn't
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: He wasn't really a part of the culture. I mean,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: what's what's your take on it? Seeing it as a
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: as a black boxing fan, it's.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Tough because it's like you don't want to overstep because
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: certain conversations should not include outsiders. But it's one of
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: those things where I look at Oscar as like the
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: face of boxing at that time, So without knowing that
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: inner politics of things, it was like, oh, and then
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: you hear when I think made those comments, like that's interesting,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: and then you hear other people like, yeah, like Oscar's cool,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: but I rock with child Goes, you know, like so
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: you always or some people rock with Varga. There's a
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: lot of different people who had different fighters that they
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: rocked with at the time. It wasn't just all Oscar
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: house looking a you like what Oscar was marketing. He
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: always fought. It was always a big deal. As a
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: matter of fact, Oscar was like the first person that
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: had the beer specials on the pay per view where
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: if you've got if you get the free twelve pack
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: or twenty four like that's why I like so all
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: that stuff was like Oscar was like the face of
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: so seeing him fighte so many times, bringing a lot
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: of Mexicans to the arena. Every time he fought, you
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: automatically thought, oh, he's the man people and they come
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: to find out it's like, nah, that ain't It's no
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: further away from the truth.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: So so yeah, yeah, And here's the thing, speaking to
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: someone again who grew up Mexican American and not you know,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: from having uh you know grandparents are great parents from Mexico.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: You know what Spanish is my first language. I personally
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: would never say somebody is that Mexican enough because they
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: don't speak Spanish. You know, the the Noo kids as
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: as they call them. Now. Man, you know, it's like
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: you can, of course, as long as you feel you're
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: part of the culture and you celebrate the culture. If
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: you're an assholes like learn English and go to hell,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: you know, we don't want you. If you're I'll say it,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: if you're a Mexican support size, we don't want you.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: But other than that discussion that we can't have on
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: the show. But I'll leave it there. I'll leave it there.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I'll leave it there. But my point is that I'm
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: saying this in a very positive way. Yeah, you know there,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: and I'll say this, you know, shame on the actual
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Mechicanos who shut out, you know, brown kids from this
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: side of the border and say, oh, you're not you're
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: not Mexican enough. Because here's the thing that you know
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of kids in my position are going to
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: be in that we're not going to be American enough
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: for some people. You know what I'm saying. We just
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: saw the goddamn the Super Bowl halftimes. She'll get criticized
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: because it's Spanish, even though Bad Bunny is fucking American,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: you know, so like we're getting it, We're already getting
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: it from the racist in the US, Like we don't
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: need to get bullshit from the Mexicans who were like, oh,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: you grew up not speaking Spanish. Oh you grew up
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: on the American side. Yeah, I'm sorry, bro, Like I
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't ask to be born on either side and
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: has to be born at all, So like, what do
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: you want from me? You know, I grew up going
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: back to Mexico, like grew up going to Mexico across
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: the border. But I've never been to a haka. You know,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you can always find a reason to critique a Mexican
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: American or hey, Hispanic American. Let's not leave everybody else out,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: you know, right, somebody born from you know, Melos one
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: in Chilean parents or in the US who don't speak Spanish, Like,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: screw that, man. I don't really messed with any of that,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: like oh you're not this enough, or you're not part
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: of the culture. You know, as long as, like I said,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: you rock with with your people, you celebrate it, you
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: love everybody, like bad Bunny showed on the on this
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: halftime show, that's awesome. So I will absolutely push back
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: on any Mexicans from Mexico, even if they're my own
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: deos and primos or anything like that. I'll push back
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: against that so I feel, yeah, so just a couple
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: more here to give a shout out to all the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: people commenting this guy. It's hard to see what this is.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: This is supposed to be. So it's Louis five two
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: zero en, so maybe he's like supposed to be Louis
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: twenty end something like that. I five was supposed to
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: be NS. I don't know. I'm sorry, I don't know
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: what your handle means. But he says, true words, only
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: a Mexican born fighter carries that weight. We may never
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: see a Chavis Senior or Canelo again. It's kind of
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: the point that Tony was making. Then we got Eric here.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: He's got a really long one. So he's bringing his
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: opinion just as long as you're cool and not getting into,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: you know, fights on our common session. But he says,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Mexican American fighters, more talented, bring way more fans. Canelo
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: was scared of losing his glory and getting it took
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: from a Mexican American from the US. Benavidez, I can't
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: really disagree with that. I can't. I can't really push
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: back against that, man. I mean, yeah, you gotta understand,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: but also you got to understand where your limits are right,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: you know, facts facts, So yeah, and then let's see
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: the last one here. That's a funny one. And I'm
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I missed a couple, so you know, please
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: are our TikTok is popping, Our YouTube is popping, so
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: please comment. It was a like follow jd Getnagodeo seventy
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: six says take what you can get kind of kind
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: of mesa, to which I replied, considering that the worst
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: kind of as tacos of my life were ones that
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I had during a layover at a Chicago airport, I
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: can't say that. I agree.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nah, that ain't right, That ain't Nope, Nope, nope, nope, nope,
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: that ain't it.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, man, I've had some. I've had some not
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: great cut of a side. I've had some terrible, kind
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: of an awful I've had.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Man, we have so there's so many spots in Vegas.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: We have like a taco shop on every corner basically right,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Some are fire, some are or mid, some just ain't it.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: And I've had too many at it's in the city.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: But also I live in part of the city where
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: it's like the anti tacos spot, So it makes sense,
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: like the East side of Vegas has the best ones,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: but that's like a thirty minute drive, and I don't
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: fight driving all that time for tacos. But you know,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: but yeah, for the most part. Yeah, but I've had
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: bad car insid that ain't it?
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Wait, so what's why are you? Is your are in
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: and not have much good ones because there's not that.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: More so it's a better it's a nicer area, it's
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: more expensive with like, so most of the good taco
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: shops are in places where the restaurant rent or the
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: space is a lot cheaper. So on the east side
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: of town, you can rent a restaurant for probably a
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: thousand a month, just tw hypothetically speak, you probably get
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: away with one thousand a month, maybe even twelve hundred
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: a month.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Out here.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: You're not getting anything under two at certain shopping centers,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: so it makes sense. Now, Luckily, we have a lot
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: of taco trucks here that'd be all over so you'll
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: catch a random taco shop in the parking lot of
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: a bank after hours. So if you go to the
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: bank or you're just driving around, you'll see a taco
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: truck posted in a random parking lot and they selling
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: tacos from six to ten. So there's a lot of
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: good taco spots out here, but a lot of very
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: o ratus spot And the what you off done to
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: King Taco is outrageous, the one on the strip y'alled
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: on bast ride that spot so much to where it's
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: cool if you don't know no better. But we have
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: so many good places, man, we have so many more
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: options than that. I hope people that come to Vegas
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: that have you have if you have a car, if
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: you're driving, there's so many other options that are close
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: enough to where you can get way better than that.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, respect respect.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing that I've always said, Uh, the
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: foods of poor people food is always going to be
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: better than anything else. And when somebody takes poor people
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: food and tries to make it fancier, it's never going
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: to be that good. I'm sorry, I saw a TikTok video.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: This is something like if your Mexican restaurant has like
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: a vibe or theme and there's like techi shit on
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: the walls, like a neon sign that says tequila please
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: or whatever, and if they serve the tacos in that
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: wavy little metal holder thing. I'm cool. Yeah, oh thank you.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Don't do that. Yeah, so you know, take it. Yes,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you might have to go into the
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: dicier parts of town to get to the food trucks,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: to get to the places that are a little Like
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: you said, the rent is cheaper, but that food is
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: let's say, like ninety nine percent of the time, is
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: gonna be way more fire. You know. Everybody can have
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: missus of course, but yeah, definitely don't don't settle, don't
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: don't buy fancy Mexican food, don't buy fancy Indian food, like,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: come on, honestly, I think Indian food might be the
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: best food in the world. Sorry, sorry, make but it's
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: got to be from the from the hole in the wall,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: poor spots. So cool. But yeah, shout out to everybody commenting, uh,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: you know, and thanks for all being for being respectful.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Anybody who comes in, I'll either call you out or
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: delete your delete your stuff if you're you know, saying
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: anything messed up, just just anything disrespectful or inappropriate. So
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: just you know, I'm I keep a close eye on that,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: so we don't we don't fuck with that around here.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: The only people you can be disrespectful to is Jake,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Paul and his brother Paul Logan go nuts, go nuts.
• 58:05
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• 58:08
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• 58:10
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• 58:14
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• 58:16
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• 58:19
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• 58:22
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• 58:25
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• 58:28
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• 58:32
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• 58:35
  Speaker 3: so definitely it's a Mason's fighting as well.
• 58:38
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• 58:42
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