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  Speaker 1: Production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys. This is these Cowboys storylines with Nick Eapman, Tommy,
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  Speaker 2: what's up? This is another edition of Cowboys storyline. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Nick Eapman here, joined right off the jump here by
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  Speaker 2: Will McLay. We tried to get Will Long. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: let's do it right now. So usually have a guest
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  Speaker 2: to the second segment. And we are still expecting to
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  Speaker 2: have cornerback Deron Bland. But man, we'll start it off
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  Speaker 2: here the guy that that pretty much drafted him a
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  Speaker 2: smart draft in the fifth round getting Deron Bland. But
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  Speaker 2: here's Will McLay, the vice president of player personnel and
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  Speaker 2: runs that war room in there or one of them. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to get you in trouble, gets you
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  Speaker 2: in trouble. You guys are collaborative. Yes, First of all,
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  Speaker 2: house camp going so far. I mean guys seeing you know,
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  Speaker 2: showing you stuff that you want to see.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's very good. It's competitive.
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  Speaker 4: You're getting to see some things about him and now
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  Speaker 4: we're getting ready to play games, and that where it matters.
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  Speaker 3: To find out about the small guys. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the young.
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  Speaker 2: Guys soft spoken. Will McClay got to get the black
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  Speaker 2: up to you, soft spoken on the mic. I've seen
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  Speaker 2: you when you're not sometimes. But it doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: the defense is kicking the offenses ass or the offense
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  Speaker 2: kicks the defense. It feels like there's periods where one
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  Speaker 2: gets the better.
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  Speaker 4: But that's got to be healthy, right, Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 4: makes us. Uh, it's gonna make us a great team
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  Speaker 4: and an opportunity. It's the battle between the offense and
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  Speaker 4: defense and the competition and you know, iron Sharpen's iron
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  Speaker 4: and then let's get ready to play the preseason games
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  Speaker 4: and figure this out and figure out our fifty three.
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  Speaker 4: But these guys are competing well.
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  Speaker 2: It always look at the rookies. We look at the
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  Speaker 2: rookies that you guys draft and also the ones you
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  Speaker 2: bring in after the drafts, because you guys have a
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  Speaker 2: great track record of doing that. Can you give me
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  Speaker 2: some guys that are standing out more than others that
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  Speaker 2: you're just like, Wow, we maybe didn't expect that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to get into names, because there's also
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  Speaker 4: part of the scouting deals. I look at everybody's website
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  Speaker 4: to see who they're talking about. Oh, Uh, don't really
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  Speaker 4: want to bring up names of what we are doing.
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  Speaker 4: Is you know, for for a team to survive, young
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  Speaker 4: guys have to make it because of the salary cap
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  Speaker 4: and everything else. So it's about seeing the young guys,
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  Speaker 4: how they'll compete, how they mix in with the vets,
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  Speaker 4: and then how they compete that that's a big part
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  Speaker 4: of this whole deal. And how do you build a
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  Speaker 4: team with those young guys that can add something to you?
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  Speaker 2: So I can't ask you about like some seventh round
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  Speaker 2: receiver pick anything that's doing well.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of kids doing a lot of good things.
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  Speaker 4: But the game, the games will tell the story.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, so I won't I won't
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  Speaker 2: talk about that. Let's talk about the last year's drafted
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  Speaker 2: because those guys aren't going anywhere. We are expecting, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, to get drawn played And what did you
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  Speaker 2: see out of him? Fifth round? And he what a
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  Speaker 2: great rookie season he had, But but what were the
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  Speaker 2: traits that you saw there to take him?
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  Speaker 4: You know, Dan's come in here on the defense and
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  Speaker 4: they they go through and they tell us the type
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  Speaker 4: of players that they're looking for, and they say, okay,
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  Speaker 4: what can a guy do and then we try and
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  Speaker 4: use those strengths. So what you're looking at Doron when
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  Speaker 4: he was coming out, he's a guy who had athleticism,
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  Speaker 4: had size, length, and had a competitive spirit and that's
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  Speaker 4: a big part about it. And with him, when the
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  Speaker 4: balls in the air, he's competing for it, and so
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  Speaker 4: you got an opportunity to see that when he got
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  Speaker 4: a chance to play, he was ready for it.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't too big for him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know he certainly he's a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: played inside outside and seems like today's with the wide receivers,
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  Speaker 2: the great receivers are the ones that are lining up
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  Speaker 2: inside outside. So you need cornerbacks that can.
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  Speaker 4: Matt can do the same thing, that can match because
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  Speaker 4: you know offenses are going to try and get their
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  Speaker 4: best player moving around.
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  Speaker 3: See what you do defensively.
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  Speaker 4: The more pieces that you have that can match with that,
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  Speaker 4: the better your defenses. And that's what we strive to do.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, Dan and the defense putting them in
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  Speaker 4: the right position he was in. He came at the
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  Speaker 4: right time for us because we lost at that point
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  Speaker 4: in time a very big piece of our team in
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis. And you're looking for somebody step up, and
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  Speaker 4: this kid, rookie just steps up, and you know, it
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  Speaker 4: looks like he'd been here for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: So when you played at Rice, for you an inside outside.
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  Speaker 4: It was back in the Southwest Conference days, and people
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  Speaker 4: give me a hard time. I mean, there's a picture
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  Speaker 4: of me with a neck brace on. You can't play
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  Speaker 4: corner with a yeah conference I had to tackle like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I like I told you the other day,
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  Speaker 2: I saw a YouTube video of Rice versus Arkansas. They're
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  Speaker 2: running the wishbone, So it's hard for you to make.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of coverage.
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  Speaker 4: Skills were undervalue during the time where I played.
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  Speaker 2: You know, well, I'm guarantee you got tested in the
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  Speaker 2: Areada League because that's what they did. They threw the ball,
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  Speaker 2: throw it around. I know you played several years over
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  Speaker 2: there as we all right, well, let's let's also talk
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  Speaker 2: about I know you don't want to talk specifically about
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  Speaker 2: you some of your guys here, but Duce Vaughan is
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  Speaker 2: a guy that's called a lot of attention. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: you've known him since he was you know, in high school,
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  Speaker 2: right and even before that seventh grade I think is
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  Speaker 2: when you said what with parlor being out a couple
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  Speaker 2: of days. Personal reasons, Ronald Jones being out with a
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  Speaker 2: grown injury. He's getting some carries as a running back,
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  Speaker 2: not just a niche player. He's he's getting the ball
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  Speaker 2: right up the middle.
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  Speaker 4: Was drafting him because he's a running back, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and there's some things he can do. There's any thing
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  Speaker 4: he's missing. His height, you know, the heart, the speed,
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  Speaker 4: all those things he has and he's got great, great instincts.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what happens at training camp. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we talk about availability. So something happens to a guy
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  Speaker 4: who's gonna step up and take advantage of the reps
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  Speaker 4: that they get. And he's doing a good job with
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  Speaker 4: that taking those reps. And that's why we draft from
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  Speaker 4: the kid can play running back.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you obviously don't you talk with the Joneses apartment
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  Speaker 2: sure multiple times a day. You don't really get into
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  Speaker 2: the money stuff. So the Zach Martin situations out of
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  Speaker 2: your control, but it does open doors for other It
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  Speaker 2: gets you a good opportunity to see what these backup
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  Speaker 2: guards are doing.
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  Speaker 4: We'll give us an opportunity to evaluate. That's you know,
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  Speaker 4: going back to I always say it's Darwinism. So something happens,
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  Speaker 4: we need somebody to step in and and and uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, fill that void. So we're getting an opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to see guys and to see, you know, how they
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  Speaker 4: mix and match with the players that we have, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the starters. Zach's not here, but other guys are getting
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  Speaker 4: the opportunity. And you know, we got to show who
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  Speaker 4: if things don't work out, who's gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: In the six to eight guard? Right now? What we
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  Speaker 2: see and uh, and that that doesn't sound good in
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't sound right in the NBA, It doesn't even
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  Speaker 2: sound right in the NFL. But Josh Ball's trying to
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  Speaker 2: do that. Obviously, leverage is a big deal. But is
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  Speaker 2: he You like what you're seeing so far, the guy
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  Speaker 2: that's tall.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Football is a game of leverage and angles, and
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  Speaker 4: you've got to be able to play with leverage on
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  Speaker 4: the line, and so you got to be able.
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  Speaker 3: To bend, which is your angles. He can do all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: He's a big, powerful, athletic guy, and so we're putting
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  Speaker 4: him in a position to see if he can handle it.
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  Speaker 2: Well. I could probably ask a hundred questions here, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all day long. Of course, you don't have time for that,
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  Speaker 2: so I appreciated that the time. I know this was
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  Speaker 2: last second. So we really really excited to have you
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  Speaker 2: here and hopefully again sometime down during the season we
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  Speaker 2: can get and get your opinion.
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  Speaker 3: Always down to talk to you, all right.
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  Speaker 2: That's Will McLay, the vice president of player Personnel. We'll
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  Speaker 2: To Cowboys storylines. Welcome back to Cowboys storylines on Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 2: And as we just mentioned, we've got Cowboys second year
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  Speaker 2: cornerback on the land with this. Thanks for joining us
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  Speaker 2: here today, Thank you for having me. How's it going
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  Speaker 2: camp going so far?
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  Speaker 3: Here?
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  Speaker 2: We actually had some rain this morning. Yeah, it's crazy,
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy, right. We didn't expect that today, No, no,
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  Speaker 2: I think. I mean we've been coming out here since
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  Speaker 2: what twenty two years, you know, give or take probably
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  Speaker 2: about seventeen eighteen times. I only kind of like two
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  Speaker 2: or three times to seven rain, So this is this
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  Speaker 2: is rare. So something weird is probably gonna happen today,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully not, hopefully not. All right, So what how about
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  Speaker 2: on the field, about how's it gone so far?
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  Speaker 3: With you battling?
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  Speaker 2: You got some good receivers out there on the other side.
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  Speaker 2: Iron sharpens iron is what they say. So how's it
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  Speaker 2: going on from your side?
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  Speaker 9: It's been good going this year. It feels a lot
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  Speaker 9: more comfortable than last year. I know where I'm at now.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Good say that answer that for me a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: You know where you're at, you know we're at mentally, physically,
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  Speaker 2: you know the defense you understand?
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, just being where I'm where my feet are.
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  Speaker 9: So like we were like where the defense is, what
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  Speaker 9: we're doing. I'm not second guessing myself now and I
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  Speaker 9: know what I'm doing now.
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  Speaker 2: What is a year two jump? We always talked about
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  Speaker 2: year two jump? What does that mean for you? What
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  Speaker 2: was the biggest part? Is it weight room, how you feel?
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  Speaker 2: Is it just knowing what to expect coming into talks learned?
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  Speaker 9: For me, it was my mind. You know, I felt
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  Speaker 9: like sometimes like last year I was playing more so
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  Speaker 9: on instincts than anything. So I like, I'm just trying
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  Speaker 9: to get my mind speed up to part. So that's
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  Speaker 9: nothing on the defense. Knowing how offenses are attacking this
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  Speaker 9: in the situations.
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  Speaker 2: Your your confidence has got to be a lot different
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  Speaker 2: than it was last year. You come in now and
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  Speaker 2: when you led the team and picks last year and
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  Speaker 2: and and you know, really showed you could play inside outside.
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  Speaker 2: Confidence for corners gotta be the biggest thing, right.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, you gotta the top two things you gotta always
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  Speaker 9: have confidence, you know, because you know some players they
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  Speaker 9: don't get you, and some players are gonna get got
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  Speaker 9: I mean get your get your uh get them back.
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  Speaker 9: So you guy always had a top tier confidence.
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  Speaker 2: So and I also took been told you gotta have
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  Speaker 2: great confidence for corner. You also have to have a
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  Speaker 2: bad memory. So if you give up a play, gotta
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  Speaker 2: let it go. Now, how about the flip side. You
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  Speaker 2: have a great rookie season, now you're building off that.
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  Speaker 2: You got to have a bad memory too, and say
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is in
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  Speaker 2: front of me.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that's one of my One of our mottos
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  Speaker 9: was never get too high and never get too low.
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  Speaker 9: So I always had that neutral mindset where you're at,
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  Speaker 9: so you can't get too high, you don't forget.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, this is this is a fans show.
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  Speaker 2: This is one for you know, I can't it's not
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  Speaker 2: just me up here all the time. I get some
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  Speaker 2: fans that send stuff in and I was able to
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  Speaker 2: this is the last second thing to get you know,
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  Speaker 2: dern up here. So I sent out a tweet. Got
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  Speaker 2: some good questions already, so I want to throw something
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  Speaker 2: at you. From our fans, one of them from Mayo.
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  Speaker 2: He says, who's been harder to cover and practice out
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  Speaker 2: of Tolbert, Brooks and Turpin. Of course you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to single out anyone, But what's what's tell me a
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  Speaker 2: little bit quick about about all of them? What is
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  Speaker 2: what does Turpin give? You know that that's obviously it's quick,
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  Speaker 2: little little guy speed.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I'm got I haven't really got to go against
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  Speaker 9: Brooks on a lot, so I can't really say too
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  Speaker 9: much on Brooks, but yeah, I say he does have
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  Speaker 9: some uh some speed to him. It's real dece even. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I got out to Brooks and then.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're going off against Tobert.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I against Ober and uh turping car for you
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  Speaker 9: a few times. So I'll say about turning. You know
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  Speaker 9: his speed and quick too, so that's one thing that
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  Speaker 9: a lot of misunderstanding by him. He's quick, fast too,
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  Speaker 9: so and then Tobert that's how he gets in and
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  Speaker 9: out of his breaks. Yeah, that's what the hard parts
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  Speaker 9: about him.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen a year two jump for him as well?
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  Speaker 2: He's seen him a little much different than the receiver
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  Speaker 2: than last year.
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  Speaker 9: You always talked, so you always thought about how do you do.
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  Speaker 9: I'm going to you this year, so he has the
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  Speaker 9: right mindset this year.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, all right, Brett Bender has a question
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  Speaker 2: for you. Said, after a great rookie year, setting the
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  Speaker 2: bar high for yourself with five picks, what are the
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  Speaker 2: goals do you have this year for your growth as
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  Speaker 2: a player.
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  Speaker 9: Based off last year?
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm got individual goals?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I'm trying to at least get five
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  Speaker 9: or more, at least trying to get it, try to
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  Speaker 9: top of that game. So I'll probably say also get
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  Speaker 9: better at tackling the biggest things too.
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  Speaker 2: So you you've played inside, played some outside. What what
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  Speaker 2: is it? How tough is it to kind of go
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  Speaker 2: back and forth? Or is it because receivers are lined
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  Speaker 2: up inside and out? Is it? Is it much different
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  Speaker 2: when you line up inside and out?
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  Speaker 9: At first, it was definitely hard. You know, there's different
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  Speaker 9: views and being inside and outside. Some things on the
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  Speaker 9: inside come quicker than they are coming outside. So at
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  Speaker 9: first it was hard, but once you get the hang
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  Speaker 9: of it, it's kind of easy.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Here's a good one from Daniel Barnett. He said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, after your success as a rookie year, are
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  Speaker 2: you now you're your second year guy, you sharing some
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  Speaker 2: of the success you had to help? Uh maybe and
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  Speaker 2: Eric Scott other rookie dps like that.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely all the time. Always been a guy who's
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  Speaker 9: always trying to share what I know, what my ideas are,
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  Speaker 9: what I'm be thinking sometimes to other guys.
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  Speaker 2: And they'll flip that to the older guys that come in.
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  Speaker 2: So Stefan Gilmore comes in, what is he brought to
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  Speaker 2: the cornerback room?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Just it seems like he's got a lot of experience,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of and he's willing to help younger guys.
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  Speaker 2: What are you seeing so far out of Gilmore?
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  Speaker 9: Just how to be professional in general. He teaches how
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  Speaker 9: to uh, how he treats his body and everything, how
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  Speaker 9: he likes to practice, and what his mindset of practice do,
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  Speaker 9: like just being intentional every day in practice.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: There's been a lot of talk here at camp, probably
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of it unnecessary, but I'm going to bring
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: it up too. Digs and Deck they like to chirp
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, and but that's what cornerbacks do.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: The greatest one of all time talked all the time,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: of course, Dion, And that's my opinion. At least as
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: the best corner. How healthy is that for you guys
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: to to battle with with the receivers and the quarterbacks
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: and raise the level of competition and practice.
• 15:07
  Speaker 9: Let's show each other we're here to fight. You know,
• 15:09
  Speaker 9: we both got each other's backs and when it comes
• 15:11
  Speaker 9: to the game. But right now you're going against each other.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: We both dogs. What's each other? What's your level of
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: trash talk? From zero to ten? I mean, I honestly,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: I'm out there and I don't hear a lot out
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: of you. Do you do? You?
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: Do?
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: You bark a little bit? Now? What if a receiver
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: beats you and says, yeah, all day, Okay, that's good.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, everybody's got their own their own style.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: From what I hear, Diggs doesn't talk to receivers at all.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: It's only Dak that kind of gets him kind of
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: riled up for some reason. So but yeah, hey, what
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: works for you for anybody?
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I guess?
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: So all right, sorry, off the field here, what's it
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: been like second year here? I mean, as far as
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: roommate eating the weather all that, I mean? Is it
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: just is it a relaxed for last year? You were
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: rookie at your head. Must be spending.
• 16:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, definitely this year is more relaxed, you know,
• 16:07
  Speaker 9: to take into the scenery.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, it's great.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: So do you hope to play some here in the preseason?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: You want? I mean, does do those reps matter for you?
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Do you want to? I mean as a competitor, these
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: guys say always want to play. But do you need
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: three games? One game? Does it matter?
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: I don't know, but I do value I would value
• 16:28
  Speaker 9: the reps during the preseason get ready for the regular
• 16:32
  Speaker 9: season and then on. So I would like to get
• 16:35
  Speaker 9: some reps.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: All right, I can't probably say I really o. Nunez
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Junior shout out to Bland Way to represent Fresno. So
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you're from I mean, Fresno is not here here, but
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: but it is obviously California. Yeah, you got family and
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: friends that that kind of you've seen. I think you
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: had some family here a few days ago.
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: Few days going in, uh the first weekend?
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: What's that like to see? You know, people that come
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: here support you, and fans too, kind of shouting out
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: to you and and and you know you've earned some
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: respect not only from family but also fans and all that.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: That must be a great feeling.
• 17:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's blessing, you know, just to be in a
• 17:09
  Speaker 9: place where that's not too far from my family, to
• 17:12
  Speaker 9: be able to come and see what I'm doing and everything.
• 17:14
  Speaker 9: So it's been good.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: All right. So goals that he's got this year, five
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: or more picks, maybe a house call. Maybe maybe you
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: have a dance. Do you have a dance in place?
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: If you have, I gotta think of that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 9: I've been thinking about that one.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah is it what? What do you? Is it like
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: a night before thing or do you just got your.
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: I feel like you think about it too hard and
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: it don't really come to you.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean just the vibes I'm getting here
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: is just a hand the ball of the ref type
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: of thing. You just show out more than that, right,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: we see? All right, all right, I appreciate it. So
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: we're gonna we're working on it. On the touchdown dance,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna get five or more picks. And
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: obviously it's a team thing more than anything. You guys
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: are It seem like you have a great cornerback room there,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: young guys, older guys in between all that look looking
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: forward to that and that pass rushing from you. That
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: kind of helps you. Guys, they just coming waves though,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: helps getting picked all right, awesome, Well, doron, we really
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: appreciate you stopping by. That's the Ron Bland, second year cornerback.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Expect some big things out of him this year. We'll
• 18:14
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  Speaker 2: To Cowboys Storylines. Final segment Cowboys Storyline. We've got two
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: guests to start this thing off, man Will McLay and
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: then Doron Bland. Look to thank both of them for
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: coming by talking about everything training, camp, competition, battling with receivers,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: trash talk, all that good stuff. I told Will afterwards.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, both of them are really good at talking
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and being really nice with the with the answers and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: not seeing a whole lot. That's that's an art. That's
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: an art. Romo was really good at that as well. Now,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: but for Will McClay situation, I mean, what you know
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: he was, he was. His thing is is that he
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: don't want to talk about any receiver, any running but
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: any good player, because all that does is it exposes him.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I guess two other teams, but I can say right now,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think Jalen Brooks is going anywhere. I don't
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: think you're sneaking to him by anything. But we'll see,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with the games going on, all right,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: this is the last segment that we get the fans questions.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: We got a few of them here, so we're gonna
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: kind of roll through them. We've got him on the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: text line that have come in. We've got some from
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Twitter as well, so I'll start with this one. You know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: he's starting to see them some of the same name,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: some of these guys that are like committed to the show.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I like a little bit more, but I like, I
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: like what I'm seeing, you know, with the guy like
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a Brett Bender every time. He actually asked one earlier
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: to Doran, but he asked this one too. Though we
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: use a high pick on Kelvin Joseph. Could he be
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: a surprise Cup this year? I know he's been on
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: special teams. We have a bunch of young guys. I'm
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: not sure how much longer we hold on to Josel
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: thirty year guy. Obviously he's had his issues off the field.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: That hasn't had one and you know this year. But
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I mean it's always a matter of just what does
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: he provide? Does he provide for you? And he's a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: second round pick, so yeah, that's that's good. But you'd
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: like to think your second round pick would do more
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: than just special teams. He wasn't drafted to play special teams.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: He was drafted to be a really, really good corner,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: and you know he has his moments there. He is
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: a very athletic player. He's strong. So like any player,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: it comes down to is he the best option that
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you have? I think draft status at this point out
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: of the wind. You know, it's out the window at
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: this time, I really do. I think that it's if
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: he's not better then Nishan Wright and Eric Scott and
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: those guys, then I think the Cowboys probably could move
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: on from him if if that's what they would they
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: want to do. I'm sure Bones Fossil would love to
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: have him on special teams, but I think at this
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: point it's got to be a little bit more than that,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: all right, Daniel Vega from Austin, Texas. It does doesn't
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: seem like we've heard a lot about Jabril Cox this year.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: He's not a guy that could be on the outside
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: looking in, right right. I don't think he is on
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: the outside looking in. I think he's a part of
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the plans. Again, another draft pick that that they had
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: some high hopes for He's had some injury issues, but
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: he actually has looked pretty good. I know, if you
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: listen to Nate Newton, who watches a lot of you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the trenches and the inside stuff, he really likes what
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: he sees about Jabril Cox going in there filling the gap,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: making plays and run support, which for a smaller size linebacker.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: That that's one of those those areas that you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: can it can be dicey at times? Are you going
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to go up and fill? And he's done that pretty
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: good so far from what we've seen in practice. Another
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: good special teams guy linebackers. There's not a ton of
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: depth there. I just don't see it's anario where Jabrill
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Cox doesn't make this team. So a good question. You know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: sometimes not being heard is a good thing. It's not
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: always a good thing to be like getting talked about
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: all the time. So yeah, I think that's that's good.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Go to the text line here, George in DC he says,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: do you feel the starter should play at least a
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: couple of series during preseason games? No? I don't. I
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: don't feel that way. I just don't think they have
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to play hardly at all. I mean again, I've totally
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: changed my tune there. I just don't think that they
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: need to. I think an injuries injuries are just way
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: just the pros and cons that just it's too much
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: for now. If you really want to see some guys
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: play a certain position, that's fine, but that's not typically
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the case from your starters. So so your starters that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: that you know are making the team and and you
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: know are going to start, I'm not playing them. If
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: there's a guy that could start and maybe he's got
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: he's got to win the job, like I say a
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson or something, then then I'm for that because
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that's a good way to separate the two. But then
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: there's a domino effect though. It's like, well, you can't
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: say I want to play this starting running back, but
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I don't want to play the offensive line, because then
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: you're not getting a good getting, you know, a really
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: good stance on anything. If if you're not, you're not
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: seeing the running backs behind the first team line and
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: all that. So they kind of kind of go hand
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: in hand. Another question, the speaking of running back to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: another question, I'll stick with George from DC doubles up.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: He says, what do you guys think of the chances
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: of Zach Martin retiring this year? Where he says retiring
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: in general. Yeah, I think there's one hundred cent chances
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: he's going to retire at some point in his career
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: this year. I don't think that if you were gonna
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: do that, I mean, I don't know, do you get
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: your money back? I mean, because you're holding out now,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: you're not moved over to the list. But I mean,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: if you were gonna do that, maybe you just retire,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you know, getting you know, getting the eight hundred thousand
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: dollars fine and counting. I don't think that's happened. That's
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: not what the stance is. The stance is to make
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: more money. When you make more money because you're playing.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I think he's thinking about it, but not not right now,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: not this year. All right, Lena, keep going. M J. Stewart.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Any chance Will Greer beats out Cooper Rush for the
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: number two job? What has to happen for that? Yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: it could happen. Will Greer plays a lot better than
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Cooper Rush in the preseason games. They're both gonna play.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dak's not gonna play. There's only three quarterbacks.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: So those two guys are gonna play a lot. One
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: guy's gonna have to play considerably better than the other.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: If it's even Cooper Rush keeps it, If it's close,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Cooper Rush keeps it. Will Greer is gonna have to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: be head and shoulders better than Cooper Rush to probably
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: be the number two quarterback. And to do that, you're
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: gonna have to play, you know, with with the with
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: those guys, with those starters, or at least core players.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: So the Cowboys are going to have to decide if
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: that's what they want to do, all right, Looking for
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: some more questions here on the text line, Uh, this
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: one's just from a two five to four number. Phillip Jackson.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: He said, with the new faster Texas Coast offense, what
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: are the chances we see more two back sets? I
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: think that would create a lot of problems for defenses. Yeah,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, especially if Deuce is involved there, Deuce being
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: one of the backs, I mean, that's gonna be just
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: a kind of a weird dynamic for for defenses in general.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: They're gonna have to figure out how to stop him. So, uh, yeah,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I definitely think that you could see some two backs there.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Don't know if it's going to be. I couldn't see
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: like a Moleak and Pollard, but it's got to be
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: another back that does some dynamic things. All right, Cowboy
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Life for twelve. Do you remember when Turpin had the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: two returns last year and they pulled him for the
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: rest of the preseason. Do you think he will get
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the same treatment now? Well, if he takes two back
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: to the house in the first game, then yeah, probably.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think for him he needs to
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: play wide receiver. That's what we need to see him
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: in the preseason kick returns. Maybe not because Deuce Vaughan
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I think could do it and we'd like to see
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: him as well, But I want to see Cavante Turpin
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: as a wide receiver. That's the one thing that I
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: think he should really be used for in the preseason,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: all right. Julian Ramirez, San Angelo, Texas. It seems to
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: be a really quiet camp for DeMarcus Lawrence. Is he hurt?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: What should we expect from the tank?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Not hurt?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: It's been kind of quiet for him. Yeah, that's not
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: a bad thing all the time, you know, I mean,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I think he's he's played uh he's been he's been good,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: you know. But he's an older guy too. You know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he gets veteran days, but I think,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: you know, wearing him out and making him make all
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: these plays out here, that's not necessarily something that that
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: is needed right now. So now I don't I don't
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: think that you you have to have that him make
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of plays. Sorry, I'm trying to find this
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: one question he's got to do. You know, I don't
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: have another another hands up here, So I'm trying to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: find this really good question here I want to answer.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Going back to DeMarcus Lawrence, I think he's fine this
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's going to be Russian from the outside, Russian from
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the inside. Remember he's coming off of Pro Bowl season.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence is it's fine. They're just making sure that
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: they take care of him. But I can't say there's
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: been any issues with him. I expect another big season
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: out of him. All right, this is one I was
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: looking for here. Maurice McCrae, Danny's brother. Maybe no, maybe
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: not from Tacoma, Washington, longtime listener, lifetime Cowboys fan. All right,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: scenario here, it's fourth and two. The opponent has no timeouts,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: two minutes left on the clock. Who are you giving
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the ball to to seal the deal? No timeouts means
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: you get a first down, the game is over. I'm
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: not dodging the question, but I would like to know
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: what happened in the first fifty eight minutes of the game.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I mean free co Dadle has one hundred and thirty
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: seven yards. I mean, like, I think he's probably getting
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the ball. I mean, but I get Let's play along.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Let's play along with the spirit of the question. That's
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: a tough question because it's fourth and two, like you
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: gotta you gotta get it and it and it's you
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: want to pass it, but you have to keep the
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: clock started one hundred, keep the clock rolling. I'm sorry,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: So I think it's a bubble screen. I think it's
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: a bubble screen. To to CD or Cooks, that's what
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I think. We'll fake, little little little quick pass there.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: You got blockers in front, make sure you catch the football,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: and then that you got the guy in space. That's
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: what I do on fourth and two. Now fourth and one,
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  Speaker 2: let's change it to fourth and one. I know what
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  Speaker 2: you're really asking, who's running the football for fourth and
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: one because it's fourth and two. I don't know if
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I like Zeke doing that. Honestly,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: it's a lot when they know you're running the football.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So if it's fourth and two, I'm probably throwing a
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  Speaker 2: bubble screen something I can keep the keep the clock
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  Speaker 2: rolling safe pass, but also in in in the space
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  Speaker 2: I'm also fourth and one. I probably I'm going with Dak.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going back until the NFL changes the rules on
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: pushing from behind. I go with Dak and I let
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: somebody somebody shove him in the back and try to
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  Speaker 2: get that. I think he's your biggest back right now
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  Speaker 2: that can probably get the one yard. So that's what
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  Speaker 2: I would do. I hope that answered the question right.
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  Speaker 2: All right? Marcus Hunter from Shreveport, Louisiana, shout out my birthplace.
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  Speaker 2: First year of my life there was good year. All right,
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  Speaker 2: Marcus Hunter, any undrafted free agent standing out this year?
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  Speaker 2: Why do you think the Cowboys have had success? Here?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And then he doubles up and says, who are the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: top five in Cowboys history? All right, let's start with
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: who's standing out this year? TJ. Bass I think has
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: a chance to do some things at guard looks pretty good.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Jaylen Marino Cropper had a good start to training camp.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: He's kind of leveled off a little bit, but he's
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: made some nice place. Miles Brooks cornerback, seems to kind
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: of always do something positive there, So I like what
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing out of him. I haven't seen a ton
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: out of a hundred lipke just yet. But the guy
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: that's probably doing the most is a tight end slash
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: receiver John Stevens. That guy has has got something to
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: him and he's about sixty six, number forty nine. They've
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: lest ed him as a receiver. He's working with the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: tight ends, but that dynamic alone just tells you that
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: what he can do. And I talked to the tight
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: end coach, Lunda Wells the other day and he says
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: that he is blocking way better than maybe anticipated for
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: a guy with that is sixty six. He's kind of lean,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: and he actually mixes it up pretty good. So that
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: is a very good combination of a guy that can
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: catch from the outside not afraid to mix it up inside.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Why the Cowboys had success there, well, I mean it's recruiting,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: and that's a part of it, you know. I mean
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that's what it comes down to. I mean, the Cowboys
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: are a franchised that still people I think would want
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: to go to. And so when you get down to it,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: you are recruiting, and because you've had success, then they
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: know that agents know that the Cowboys have value in that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: So just because you're coming as an undrafted free chie
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're not gonna have a chance. I mean,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: there's guys that have done it, so I think that
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: they've they've developed players in the past and that that
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: kind of helps the pipeline. And you know, I just
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: also thinks, you know, it's it's it's a play and
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: no knock at other teams. I mean, if there's another
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: team that has an opening that running back could maybe
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: make the team or maybe even potential start, Like you
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: got to look at that. But I think there's a
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: lot of teams that are kind of the same and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: and the Cowboys still kind of have that, you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: they have that star, they have that mystique. So that's
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: part of it. And then but more than anything, it's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the success. Who are the top five of all time?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I mean it you know, you got your I mean
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Drew Pearson and Cliff Harris and Tony Romo and I
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: probably should have written these down. I mean, I know
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm missing some. I mean I think of Cole Beasley,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: and I think of Miles Austin and and Dan Bailey,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: who was it was a good one recent guys, Uh,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I mean Ron Leary, Lance Dunbar. You know, I'm just
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: thinking of some like that. I mean this team has
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: some some as well. Like currently I'm not thinking of
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: it as much, but I mean you asked for five.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, those are those are the guys there. I
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: mean you got you got your your Ring of Honor
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and some Hall of famers there, and uh, Andrew Pearson
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and Cliff Harris and you know, I mean Romo is
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: probably one of the very best of all time, just
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: because you know, you're the face of the franchise, your
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: guy from eastern Illinois, and you come in and and
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: you know, with Bill Parcells, and you sit for two
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: years or so and then you become, you know, in
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: the face of the franchise. And as I've said before,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you know he's the diaper. You know, that's where that's
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: the nickname I gave Tony Romo, and I've never you
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: can give it to other people. I've never given it
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: to anyone else. But Tony Romo was the diaper for
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: this team. And I can say that because I have kids.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I've had enough to know that if you take the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: diaper away, his thinks it doesn't look good. There's a
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: lot of crap in there that gets covered up by
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the diaper. The diaper can do that, and that's what happens.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: We saw when Romo wasn't there, the team was really
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: really bad, and it was the same season that they
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: were really good. So I think Romo is probably one
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: of the probably the greatest undrafted free agent of all time,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: because he was the face of the franchise and when
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: people like to compare him to Danny White, no disrespect
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: to Danny White, but Danny White took over a team
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty and the team went downhill, even though
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: they went to the NFC Championship game. They ever went
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. Stallback had that team and they
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: kind of were on the decline. Romo took over a team,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the team was better, and the team was better. And
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: then when Dak came in, same thing. Dak was ready
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: to go. And you got to give Dak credit to
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: but undrafted free agent. If that was the question, the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: best of our time, Uh, I say romo with with
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Pearson obviously Pearson and Cliff Harris right there as a
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: close second. All Right, that's that'll do it for today's show.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: We've had a lot of a lot of contributors here.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: We started off with Will McLay, then we had Deron
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Blant and we have a lot of great questions from
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: you guys. Uh this will be this will be our
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: last show of the week, but we will come back
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: next week and we hope to get that quarterback that's
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the one we're really looking for. But also we got
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: some other guests lined up for next week as well,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: so we're really excited about that. All right. So for
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Chris Beam, I'm Nick Keaman. Will we will see you
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  Speaker 2: next time on Cowboys Storyline.
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