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9-24: Seahawks QB decision, Mariners chances and Farhan Lalji · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, happy Thursday. I'm at the Virginia Mason Athletic
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  Speaker 2: Center at Seahawks headquarters again. Headlines brought to you by Frostbrook.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, as cold as the Rockies. The Mariners aren't
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  Speaker 2: mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, not yet. Here's why, because
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  Speaker 2: of what happened last night. Naylor winning run at third.
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  Speaker 3: And he lines it into center field.
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  Speaker 4: And Seattle walks off the Astros.
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  Speaker 2: Bases loaded single by Josh Naylor in the bottom of
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  Speaker 2: the 10th after the Astros, the trash cans, had scored
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  Speaker 2: a run in the top of the 10th to take
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  Speaker 2: a 5-4 lead. Mariners win 6-5. That was off of
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  Speaker 2: Josh Hader who went two innings for Houston to try
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  Speaker 2: to get the Mariners to put them to bed. They didn't.
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  Speaker 2: The M's are still in it somehow, but only by mathematics.
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  Speaker 2: They are four games out with four games left to play.
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  Speaker 2: The only way the Mariners can make the playoffs is
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  Speaker 2: to sweep the four-game series that begins tonight at the
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  Speaker 2: yard in Soto against the Angels. Plus, the trash cans
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  Speaker 2: must get swept in four games at the A's in Sacramento. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: the Rangers must lose the day at home to the Mets. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: the Rangers must get swept. You're telling me there's a chance.
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  Speaker 2: Then the Rangers would have to get swept in three
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  Speaker 2: this weekend by the Twins. If all that happens, if
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  Speaker 2: lightning strikes, if a blue moon comes out and hits
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  Speaker 2: a lightning. Sam Darnold practiced with the Seahawks for the
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  Speaker 2: first time in two full weeks since he'd injured his
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  Speaker 2: glute getting sacked on that fifth play of the season.
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  Speaker 2: September 9th, he divided the first-team reps with Drew Locke,
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  Speaker 2: limited practice participant for Darnold. How Darnold's body responds today
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  Speaker 2: to that work will determine if he gets more first-team
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  Speaker 2: reps in practice today, and that'll determine if it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be Darnold or Locke. That starts Sunday at Washington.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Mike McDonald says they'll make that decision by the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day Friday. The team leaves Friday for
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  Speaker 2: the game against the Commanders on Sunday in Maryland. Nicky
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  Speaker 2: Manwari was a full go. Yesterday in practice, first time
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  Speaker 2: in a game week he's been full go since two
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  Speaker 2: days before the Super Bowl. McDonald says Eamon Worry is
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  Speaker 2: going to get substantially more work and plays Sunday at Washington.
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  Speaker 2: Eamon Worry told me Sunday in Arizona, his nine-snap season debut,
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  Speaker 2: that that proves he's fully back and now he's playing
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  Speaker 2: all the rest of the plays the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Rookie running back Jadarian Price practiced yesterday on a limited
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  Speaker 2: basis three days after he left the Arizona game with
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  Speaker 2: a shoulder injury. From what I could tell, he looked
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  Speaker 2: pretty normal. Looks to me initially as if he's going
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  Speaker 2: to play Sunday, though. Emmanuel Wilson proved that with his
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  Speaker 2: 92-yard rushing day against the Cardinals, Price doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: do a full load Sunday if he's still hurting against
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  Speaker 2: the Commanders. Zach Sarbanet, he's not going to return to
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  Speaker 2: practice this week, as he is now eligible to. He
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  Speaker 2: can't come off the pup list until after the fourth game.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Mike McDonald said not this week for Sarbanet, so
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  Speaker 2: that means his return to practice, at least not until
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  Speaker 2: next week. That means pushes back his likely return to
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  Speaker 2: maybe week five or six, seven. Sounders won. Sounders won.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa! Franchise record 13 straight MLS matches without a win
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  Speaker 2: is over. 2-0 last night over Real Salt Lake at
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  Speaker 2: the stadium.
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  Speaker 5: The Fighting Feltz.
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  Speaker 2: Fighting Feltz is there. So he's not fighting as much
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  Speaker 2: this morning, I guess, after 14 matches.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, not fighting, not furious. I'm going to call him
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  Speaker 5: Genuine Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: I like the alliteration.
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  Speaker 2: That's a droid alliteration there. Thank you. A droid! Hold on!
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  Speaker 5: No, no, lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Just for you, Jessamyn. The storm ended their WNBA season
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  Speaker 2: with a loss at Dallas at Climate Pledge Arena. Seattle
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  Speaker 2: won 8th and 36th this season. That's a league record
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  Speaker 2: for losses. Now on with the Thursday show. Greg Bell
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  Speaker 2: here out at Seahawk headquarters. Jessamyn McIntyre is back at
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  Speaker 2: our LA-based studios in downtown Seattle. Good morning, ma'am.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning. It's a Thursday?
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Already?
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  Speaker 5: We have football tonight?
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  Speaker 2: We do.
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  Speaker 5: And baseball tonight?
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  Speaker 2: We do. That's right.
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  Speaker 5: I call that a plethora.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, that's another good word.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's from Three Amigos, so.
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  Speaker 2: Not exactly known as a highbrow show.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't go through thesaurus for that one.
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  Speaker 2: 5.15 tonight on KGR. The Green Bay Packers are hosting
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  Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. That's the first game of week three
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  Speaker 2: of the NFL season. And then, yes, the Mariners, mathematically
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  Speaker 2: still alive. It just makes you think, like, if they
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  Speaker 2: hadn't just punted, like, three months of the season, how
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  Speaker 2: much further they would be, like, 10 games up and
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  Speaker 2: clinched a couple weeks ago.
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  Speaker 5: They could have just moderately made it through.
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  Speaker 2: I said it. I was talking to Chris Egan and
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  Speaker 2: Ariel Osuto yesterday on King 5 on their ultimate sports
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  Speaker 2: show at 3 o'clock. And they were talking about the Mariners.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, you know what? They could have backed
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  Speaker 2: into this division title. And they could have backpedaled in
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  Speaker 2: to win this division. It's about as it is. Under 500,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, is the first place right now
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  Speaker 2: because the Rangers lost last night. And Houston lost last night.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, a 500 team would be in first place. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: they're four games back with four games left. The Angels
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  Speaker 2: are coming down tonight. Although we thought that was a
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  Speaker 2: soft touch in the schedule a couple weeks ago. And
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  Speaker 2: the Angels won the series down in Anaheim. But the
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  Speaker 2: Mariners have to win all four games against The Angels
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  Speaker 2: starting tonight through Sunday. While the Rangers have to lose
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  Speaker 2: all four down in Sacramento to the A's. While the
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  Speaker 2: Rangers have to lose tonight to the Mets. Today, actually.
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  Speaker 2: They play on this morning, our time. To the Mets
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  Speaker 2: and Arlington. And then have to lose three in a
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  Speaker 2: row to the Twins. So, yeah. They're mathematically alive.
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  Speaker 5: It would take one of those. Did you ever watch
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  Speaker 5: the movie Angels in the Outfield?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I did. Yeah, we just need those wings going. Or
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  Speaker 5: the tridents going. I don't know, like turn your arms
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  Speaker 5: into tridents and flap them.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what the similar situation would be for that.
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  Speaker 5: But they did it in Angels in the Outfield. Christopher
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  Speaker 5: Lloyd came down.
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  Speaker 2: Where's Christopher Lloyd when you need him? Back to the
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  Speaker 2: Future and Angels in the Outfield. On the show today.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little more about it. And
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  Speaker 2: Jessup and I were talking offline about this. Maybe we
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  Speaker 2: can put this story to bed today. But the Graham
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  Speaker 2: Benzinger controversy with Mike McDonald. Graham Benzinger has gotten way
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  Speaker 2: more than his five minutes of fame for this. And
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't deserve it. He lacked complete ethics.
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  Speaker 5: Fame cuts both ways, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. It's cutting the hard way for him right now.
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  Speaker 2: Graham Benzinger issued a statement last night describing his side
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  Speaker 2: of the story. He said he'd gotten so many media requests.
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  Speaker 2: Our show was trying to get him to. And he
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  Speaker 2: just put out a blanket statement, which is kind of
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  Speaker 2: a cop-out way to do it. Just write something on
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  Speaker 2: the internet and don't face music about questions or anything.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, he put out a statement. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: what he said. We'll talk about what Mike McDonald said about...
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  Speaker 2: McDonald called Sean Payton on Tuesday night after this all
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  Speaker 2: broke and apologized. Just told him, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 5: So classy.
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  Speaker 2: I screwed up. He owned it. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the vulnerability of Mike McDonald. He showed the world
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  Speaker 2: yesterday where he shows the players all the time. Cooper
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  Speaker 2: Cupp talked about that yesterday when I asked Cupp about it,
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  Speaker 2: about the vulnerability piece and how unique that is for
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald. But, yeah, McDonald just wore it. You'll hear
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  Speaker 2: what McDonald said. You'll hear what Benzinger said. Ugh. We'll
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  Speaker 2: also talk about where the Seahawks quarterback situation sits.
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  Speaker 5: We don't need to hear him again.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I will explain his side of the story. As
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  Speaker 2: a journalist, I'm going to get both sides. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: get Ben Suter's side.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, the statement, not his voice.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, I don't need to hear him. That guy,
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  Speaker 2: it still, it boggles my mind that I'm out here.
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  Speaker 2: We're out here. Not just me. What am I talking
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  Speaker 2: about me? All of us on the Seahawks beat are
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  Speaker 2: out here. Jessamyn's out here. Softie, Ian, all of us
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  Speaker 2: who cover the Seahawks are out here all the time.
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  Speaker 2: And nobody's bringing and inviting us to Mike McDonald's estate
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  Speaker 2: on the 10 acres outside Seattle. And here's Graham Benziger,
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  Speaker 2: who's never been here before. I've never seen him, ever.
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  Speaker 2: I've covered this team for 20 years. I've never seen
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  Speaker 2: this guy.
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  Speaker 5: He does sensationalist things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he gets entree into McDonald's house. He's sitting in
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  Speaker 2: the entryway to his home, and then he burns them
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  Speaker 2: like this. I mean, just, you don't, if you like,
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  Speaker 2: or just, Hugh and I were talking about this at
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  Speaker 2: the roundtable this morning with Chuck. You don't– if you're
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  Speaker 2: just a decent human being, you don't air that part
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  Speaker 2: of it, right? It was obvious.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked about it yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just be– you know what right and wrong is,
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  Speaker 2: and it's wrong. You're stabbing a dude in the back.
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  Speaker 2: You know that in the fraternity of NFL coaches, if
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  Speaker 2: you air that clip, it's going to be– to say
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  Speaker 2: the least, it's not going to reflect well on Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald if you air that clip. Yet you were invited
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  Speaker 2: into his home, and then you just stab him in
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  Speaker 2: the back by just airing this. It's crazy. I can't believe–
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  Speaker 2: forget about the journalism ethics part of it. How about
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  Speaker 2: just the human being part of it, just being a
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  Speaker 2: good dude? And I can't believe he didn't have a
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  Speaker 2: filter to say, well, if I air this, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to put a lot of undue garbage onto Mike McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: So let's just not air this part.
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  Speaker 5: I mean we just talked about it yesterday, the things
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  Speaker 5: that are not worth airing.
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  Speaker 2: Right. What's the risk-reward equation? I talk to my kids
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  Speaker 2: all the time about this. They're 23 now. So life's
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  Speaker 2: full of risk-reward calculations. First of all, life's full of decisions.
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  Speaker 2: As we all know, you make decisions every day.
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  Speaker 5: And you learn from the bad ones.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And if you make the wrong one, you learn and
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  Speaker 2: you face the consequences. It's part of accountability. But there
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  Speaker 2: are also value judgments of risk versus reward. What's the
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  Speaker 2: risk of doing this versus the reward of doing it?
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  Speaker 2: So he's going to risk-reward calculation of all the clicks
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  Speaker 2: and all the falling and all the notoriety we'll get
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  Speaker 2: by playing all of this interview with a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: champion head coach, including– This inside dirt, inside ball dirt
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  Speaker 2: on Sean Payton, another Super Bowl winning coach from his
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  Speaker 2: time at the Saints. I mean, the risk of it
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  Speaker 2: is burning a guy that you just went into his
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  Speaker 2: house and never being able to talk to him again,
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  Speaker 2: potentially burning your chance to talk to anybody. else in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. I don't know why anybody would grant an
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  Speaker 2: interview to this guy.
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  Speaker 5: No, that was a lesson learned by everyone who saw it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there should be nobody in sports who
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  Speaker 2: talks to this guy after this. How are you going
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  Speaker 2: to get, he just got Mike McDonald got burned by
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  Speaker 2: this guy. That's the risk reward calculation that Graham Benziger
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  Speaker 2: apparently made and He chose for the reward of clicks
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  Speaker 2: and notoriety, and now he's got his three days of
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  Speaker 2: fame over this. We'll talk about the Seahawks quarterback situation
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  Speaker 2: as it sits right now for the game Sunday at Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: It's still cloudy. Today's going to tell a lot more.
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  Speaker 2: And when I go on the field at about 115
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  Speaker 2: to watch the start of practice, it's going to tell
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  Speaker 2: me a lot more on how Sam Donald's body responded
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  Speaker 2: to his first practice in two weeks. We'll talk 11
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  Speaker 2: o'clock live to our guy Farhan Lalji, TSN Canada. He's
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  Speaker 2: on his way down from the border. to Seahawks practice today.
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  Speaker 2: He might get here in time to do this in
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  Speaker 2: person at 11 o'clock, our weekly visit with him to
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  Speaker 2: take us around. Oh, that'd be awesome. Yeah, he said
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  Speaker 2: he was on his way here, and he might be
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  Speaker 2: able to, but our instant Sarah Bell is listening. She's
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  Speaker 2: on temporary duty on training in Virginia right now, and
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  Speaker 2: she just sent me a text and said, Dad with
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  Speaker 2: the T. I think that means something to the kids.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a kid. She texted me a smiley face,
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  Speaker 2: Dad with the T.
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  Speaker 5: Dead with the tea?
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  Speaker 2: TEA, like I was sipping tea.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, with the tea. Yeah, that does mean something, yes.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean, Jessamyn?
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  Speaker 5: The inside scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 5: It's gossip, the inside scoop, that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: I see Kermit the Frog sipping tea on memes. Is
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  Speaker 2: that what they call it?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, memes, but that's a little bit different. This is
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  Speaker 5: none of my business. The meme is usually saying a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of things that are very obvious and that no
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  Speaker 5: one's talking about. But that's none of my business. And
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  Speaker 5: so I'm just going to be Kermit the Frog and
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  Speaker 5: sip some tea. But that's a different tea. That's a
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  Speaker 5: different tea.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you, Ensign Bell. I'm hip because I'm T-E-A-T.
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  Speaker 2: I got the T. 425, appreciate you. Greg and Jess Bessinger.
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  Speaker 2: Who is this guy? Exactly. Did any of you know
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  Speaker 2: him before his recent brouhaha, Ralph? in Bellevue Crossroads. I
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  Speaker 2: knew of him only because when Mariner Games would end,
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  Speaker 2: his syndicated show, Benzinger's syndicated show, would sometimes come on
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  Speaker 2: Root Sports. That's the only time, and I've seen him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, talking to like, I don't know who he
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  Speaker 2: talked to, Phil Mickelson, or he talked to people from
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  Speaker 2: around the sports world. That's the only time I've known him.
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  Speaker 2: I never watched his show, and I remember seeing him
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  Speaker 2: come on after Mariner Games and thinking, who's this cat?
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  Speaker 2: And then he had to go out to Mike McDonald's house,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, what?
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  Speaker 3: Who is that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's how I knew who he was because I
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  Speaker 5: would see these legendary interviews that he got. Legendary?
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  Speaker 2: With who?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he was a Kobe. Just like, I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: saying that his interviews were legendary. It's just the people
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  Speaker 5: he would get. And I would, yes, with legend. That
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  Speaker 5: is a very good correction there because I wasn't saying
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  Speaker 5: that he's a legendary interview. I have no idea, Greg.
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  Speaker 5: But that's my take on him was who the hell
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  Speaker 5: is this guy? Because he was getting these amazing interviews.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Is he paying? He must have some money. There could
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  Speaker 2: be that.
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  Speaker 5: I have been on his website, and he is with
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  Speaker 5: Nate Boyer on his website.
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  Speaker 2: Nate is a friend! We've got to talk to Nate
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  Speaker 2: Boyer about this, Kat. We're going to talk to Nate
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  Speaker 2: Boyer at the Army-Navy game. We do every year. In December,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk to Nate Boyer. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: ask him, who the hell is Graham Benzinger? Why is
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  Speaker 2: he going into Mike McDonald's house?
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  Speaker 5: Nate is a loyal person, and he is very true,
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  Speaker 5: and he will probably defend him. I'm not putting words
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  Speaker 5: in his mouth, but He will explain it in a very,
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  Speaker 5: very professional manner.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter, Ensign Bell, just said, like spilling a tea,
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  Speaker 2: like the tea is boiling hot. Ah, okay, Sarah. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you spill the tea. That's gossiping. That's putting it
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  Speaker 5: out there.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's usually my point.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, boiling hot. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So at 11 o'clock, we'll talk to Farhan Lalji.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about the Clint Kubiak Raiders. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to him about the Chargers. Are they as bad
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  Speaker 2: as they look? The Chargers have lost to the Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: at home. And now the Raiders to be 0-2. Why
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  Speaker 2: are we going to talk about the Chargers? Because that's
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  Speaker 2: who the Seahawks play after Washington when they come back
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  Speaker 2: home for a two-game homestand. They've got the Chargers and
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  Speaker 2: 49ers back-to-back before they go to Denver on a Thursday
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  Speaker 2: night on October the 15th to play the Broncos. At 1130,
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  Speaker 2: we'll read back your texts and talkbacks on the Tacoma
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  Speaker 2: Dodge text line 49451. And also your talkbacks. You go
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  Speaker 2: red microphone button under our show. And you leave a
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  Speaker 2: 30-second or shorter voicemail message. Jessamyn McIntyre loves talkbacks. So
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  Speaker 2: if you do a talkback, you're going to be on
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  Speaker 2: the air. Guaranteed. I mean, we've had people singing. It
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  Speaker 2: sounds like in the shower.
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  Speaker 5: I love those ones, though. The creativity really is fun.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: It is. I just poke fun at it. But yes,
• 15:00
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• 15:33
  Speaker 2: the first question for the Tacoma Dodge text line, this
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: whole Graham-Benzinger thing, it's serving as a distraction at the moment,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: but Your view of how Mike McDonald handled this and
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: apologizing and publicly declaring he apologized to Sean Payton, who
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: in Denver yesterday said, yep, he called me. We had
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: a great conversation. It's cool. I understand. And that was that. Jessamyn,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I saw what you wrote last night on Twitter X,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: and I agree with you that this is an example
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: of two coaches handling this in a very civil and
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: professional way. Yes. And moving on. Yes, exactly.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: And that's all they want to do. They clearly know
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: each other. And I thought that Mike McDonald's explanation of
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: it was kind of funny in the clip that aired
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: where they got through it. They got past it. It
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: was a funny gamesmanship thing. And there's friends and that,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: you know, Sean was saying that he would get a
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: beer with John Schneider. And there he was just angry
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: in the moment. And that's what best friends do. If
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: you're that close to someone, I'm not saying they're best friends,
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: but what friends do, sometimes they get mad at each other.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: And then you go have a beer. You just go
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: have a beer and everything's fine.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real life. Peyton said he misunderstood at the
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: start that he thought that McDonald had somebody in the
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: crowd filming, like a mall, like a plant, like the
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: whole Michigan stealing signs thing. And he didn't realize this
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: was open source. He said that this experience... The episode
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: made him go look at what's out there from Broncos fans.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: And Peyton explained yesterday it prompted him to change the
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Broncos policies at training camp that you can't film the
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: entire practice, just like the Seahawks now have that rule.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Stemming from this incident, he said at the time when
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: he heard about this, he thought that McDonald and the
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Seahawks were planting dudes in the crowd in Englewood, Colorado.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: Which is entirely possible as well. You can go as
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: a fan. I mean, it's pretty inexpensive to go to
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: those camps anyway.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Right. But no, he said when he looked into it,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: he was like, wait a minute. These are our Bronco
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: fans that are putting this stuff out. I didn't realize this.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: That's what McDonald was doing and what he's talking about.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: And that changed everything for Peyton. He said it. Sean
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Payton said after that, oh, wait a minute. I've got
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: to clean in my own house, and we've got to
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: fix our own rules here. And he said he's done that,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks do that too. But some of the–
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton made it clear yesterday that he misunderstood when
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: he thought the Seahawks were cheating. He thought that McDonald
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: was actually putting dudes into the crowd and stealing stuff
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: with people, and that's not at all what happened. And
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: so that's what the misunderstanding and all this came from.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: As we said, hopefully this is the last day we're
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: going to talk about this. But you are next going
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: to hear what Mike McDonald said yesterday because I thought
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: it was indicative of the vulnerability that he uses as
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: a leader. Cooper Cupp talked about that vulnerability as well.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: And we'll read, for the sake of journalism and playing
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: both sides of this, we'll read Graham Benzinger's statement next.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: At 11 o'clock, Farhan Lalji from TSN Canada will take
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• 18:46
  Speaker 2: on 93.3 KJRFM. Welcome back. Greg Bell, Justin McIntyre with you.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I'm at Seahawks headquarters three days before the Seahawks play
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the Commanders. We'll have a press conference with... It'll be
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: interesting today, actually. They're going to bring Sam Donald out
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: as the starting quarterback press conference. The weekly starting quarterback
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: press conference is usually noon and Thursday.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is kind of a breaking news situation.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I would suspect, since Donald's back practicing, it's going to
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: be Sam Donald we talk to at 12 noon, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: if so, Ian Frenes might have a say or two
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: on what Donald had to say, or I might pop
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: in and talk to Ian Furness. Look at you.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Team player.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been doing that a couple days. of weeks now,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: popping in and coming on the show about what the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: press conference has revealed. Yesterday, Mike McDonald had his weekly
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Wednesday press conference, and in it, he talked about what
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: he thought was off the record, not for public consumption
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: comments about Sean Payton alleging the Seahawks were cheating. when
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: they got open source fan video of Broncos training camp
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and cultivated a hundred plays that the Broncos were running
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: in training camp before the Broncos and Seahawks played the
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: 2024 opener. Sean Payton accused the Seahawks of cheating in that.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: And that wasn't supposed to air in McDonald's mind. He
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: made that clear yesterday. This was what Mike McDonald said
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: about the Graham Benzinger interview in his home, including the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: comments about Sean Payton. And then after that, you can
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: hear from Cooper Cup about the vulnerability the coach shows
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: here when he explained how he fell short mike what
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: was your reaction to the stuff that came out yesterday
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the video being released oh.
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah um you know it's um it's something that i
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: uh i didn't intend for for public use and um
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: but you know it just uh thought it was the
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: most appropriate thing to reach out to sean and really
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: just apologize to him for having that end up be
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: public where it wasn't meant to um So I just,
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: and you know, you're kind of something that they have
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: to deal with in real time. That wasn't really, you know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: on their end.
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: So that's, that's really where you're like crap.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: But, um, it's a lesson learned, you know, honestly, it's,
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: I gotta be, I gotta be better in that moment
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: for understanding. Like I'm look, I'm responsible for what I
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: say really no matter the circumstance, whether you're mic'd up,
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: whether you're not, whether you have some certain type of understanding, um, So,
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: you know, I fell short of that moment. So it's a, it's,
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: it stings for me, frankly, but it's something that I'm
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: definitely gonna learn from. And, uh, just a good example
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: that we just, you know, you got to take responsibility
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: for the things that we say.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: So. Can you tell us what was Sean's reaction?
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: Sean was great. Sean was great.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: He's, um, I just, I'll say, I really, I just,
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: I respect the heck out of him and his program.
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: I always have.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: He's a phenomenal football coach. It's been, it's been great
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: to get to know him at the owner's meetings the
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: last couple of years.
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: Um, And he was awesome.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: So I know we're both looking forward to moving forward
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: from it, but I really appreciate how he handled it.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Can you help us understand the circumstances?
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: Were you just kind of shooting the breeze with Graham
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: before you thought everything was rolling?
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Is it okay if this is all on the record?
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: I think it's fair to say if I'm talking, I'm
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: responsible for what I'm saying.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Did you hear from anybody from the show About how
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: it got out or anything like that?
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: It's not important on all those details.
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: It's just that it got out.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I was trying to make light of it and just
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: make him laugh when I said, is this all on
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the record?
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: I was hoping that he would open his presser saying that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Exactly. You did mention that yesterday. In fact, he did.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald did hear from Graham Benzinger's show. And knew
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: that this was coming out, and he actually found out
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: the morning of it coming out. And this was Graham
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Benzinger last night. He issued a statement on TwitterX in print.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Due to ongoing media requests for comment, I want to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: clarify the timeline surrounding a portion of our recent interview
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: with Mike McDonald that has received attention this week. The
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: complete Mike McDonald interview, including the conversation now at issue,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: was provided to Seahawks PR last Wednesday, September 16th, five
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: days before it was published on YouTube. During that time,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: no concern was raised about the exchange, and we were
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: never asked to remove it. For the last couple of years,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: our typical practice with long-form interview releases has been to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: include some of the pre-interview conversation.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Which some shows do, to be fair. Some shows do,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: but usually you're aware of it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, you better go to the subject and say, hey,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: we're going to air some of this pre-interview conversation. Are
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you cool with it? And McDonald, in this case, would
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: have said, no. That was off the record. That's not
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: meant for public. You heard the coach say yesterday I
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't meant for public consumption. Graham Bensinger's statement went on
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: to say, Coach McDonald reached out to me directly yesterday morning,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: meaning Tuesday morning, expressing concern. I immediately told him that
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: we would remove that portion, and we did. Unfortunately, it
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: had already been clipped from our interview by online outlets
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: and circulated elsewhere. I told Coach that in hindsight, excuse me,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: in hindsight, I regretted allowing that exchange to be included,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and it was my error in judgment. I have tremendous
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: respect for Coach. We spent significant time together in Seattle
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: one day, and I came away impressed not only by
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: what he has accomplished in such a short period of time,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: but by the person he is. The last thing I
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: want to do is for one exchange to overshadow that story.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I also have great respect for Sean Payton, whom I've
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: had the opportunity to profile previously from Graham Benzinger yesterday,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: for what that is worth. I asked Cooper Cup about
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: the vulnerability you heard Mike McDonald saying. I fell short
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: in that moment. And it stings, frankly. That's some vulnerability
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: for a head coach to say.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: It's honesty.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It is. It's true him. And that's what Mike McDonald
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: shows with his players. This was Cooper Cup talking about
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the vulnerability of the leader, Mike McDonald.
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: Mike McDonald's vulnerability that he shows the players. Is that
• 25:19
  Speaker 10: unusual in your football career? experience and leadership and what
• 25:22
  Speaker 10: is it what are you left thinking when he is
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: vulnerable and say i screwed up or if it's some shortcoming.
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah well i think that's uh you know mike is
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: um he chooses to be himself at all times and
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: i think that's a very powerful thing and something that
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: you know people have a lot of respect for um
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: because you know he's you're gonna get him you're gonna
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: get exactly what he thinks and know There's no smoke
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: and mirrors. It calls people up to a great standard.
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: When you're at the very top, you can be accountable.
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: When you're at the very top, you can be vulnerable.
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: When you can say, I messed up, I can be
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: better for you. When you have guys that just share
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: how they're feeling. It opens the door for everyone else
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: to step into that same spot. When you've got a
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: team of accountable players, you can be a very powerful unit.
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: you know, he leads the way for us and calls
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: everyone up to that standard.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, it's a very special thing. Have you had
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a leader in your football life like that?
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, there is, yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: I mean, Mike is very unique in terms of, like, his–
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: I think he is unique in terms of some of that, like,
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: vulnerability stuff that you've talked about. But, you know, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: think just about every great leader that– great coach, great
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: leader that I've been able to– either share the field
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: with or be coached by, has.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Some of those qualities. I'm 33 years old, two-time Super
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Bowl champion, NFL Offensive Player of the Year and Super
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Bowl MVP for the Rams in 2021. Talking about Mike
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: McDonald and the vulnerability he shows with the players, and
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: as he showed some of yesterday as well. 49451 on
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the Comodage text line. Your reaction to all of that,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: how you feel about how your Seattle Seahawks coach handled
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: this situation?
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Please give me the talk back. I'm sitting here by
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: my lonesome.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's in the studio by herself.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: By darkness retreat. I'm very Aaron Rodgers right now.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I'm over here at Seahawk headquarters. And you heard Mike
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: McDonald say it, but both he and Sean Payton are
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: very anxious to just, let's get on with the football now.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: This is a product of Jessamine not being games, but
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: One every seven days. From Sunday to Sunday. And what
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: do people talk about? What becomes news in between those games?
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: The news will shift here now from this. Now remember,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: it came out on a Tuesday, the off day of
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the NFL Sunday to Sunday game week. The players didn't practice.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: There were no injury reports. So this filled that void.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: This is how the NFL news cycle works. But now
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: we're getting into the game week. It's Thursday. There's three
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: days until they play at Washington. And now the story
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: will change to Sam Darnold, does he come back to
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: back for a second day in a row of practice
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: two weeks after the glute injury? How many snaps does
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: he get? And Thursday, first team reps, how much did
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: he get? He was limited yesterday. And that will point
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: toward how likely it is that he starts on Sunday.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And as we've said, and Mike McDonald himself has said,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: if he's healthy, Darnold is starting on Sunday against the commanders,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the 0-2 commanders who are going to start backup quarterback
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota. That will all now become And this will
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: recede to the back, at least we hope so. And
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: then it'll come back up again in three weeks because
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks and Broncos are going to play each other
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: on a Thursday night on Amazon Prime in a Thursday
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: night showcase game. And McDonald and Payton will probably be
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: revisiting this conversation and the apology and their relationship and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: all of that in a few weeks. But fortunately that week,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: there'll be only three days between games. The Seahawks and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the Broncos both play on that Sunday. The Seahawks play
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the 49ers in week five before Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, get
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: on a plane Wednesday to fly to Denver for a
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Thursday game. So at least the circus of this will
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: be much shorter without seven days between games. But that's
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the way it is. I mean, that's just how it is.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I'd be remiss if I didn't say what a great
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: question that was to Cooper Cupp. Just hearing a player
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: who is a veteran who played against the Seahawks for
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: a long time and now plays for them. to hear
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: him talk about a coach he clearly has a lot
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: of knowledge and experience with head coaches and I thought
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: that was a great question and a great person to
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: give his perspective on it so I really appreciate that
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: and I thought that Cooper said it perfectly.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. I thought Cup would
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: give a unique perspective to that, especially because he came
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: up to podium right after McDonald just talked about it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: But we've seen examples, you saw it on Hard Knocks,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: examples of McDonald being vulnerable. O.J. Brignance, his friend from
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens who passed away recently and talking about
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: that and tearing up in front of the team talking
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: about that. That's the vulnerability piece of the talking about
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: if you missed the context to that. But 49451, we
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: will read back your text. And Marcus, a longtime friend
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: of the show and the station at 206, writing, I
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: think they did send it to the Seahawks. That's what
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Graham Benziger claims. That's too easy to be verified as
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: false if they didn't. Well, that's true. And honestly, Marcus,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I'm at the point where I don't know if I
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: care enough to ask the PR director of the Seahawks
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: if that's true. I probably will and maybe in passing.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, some of you may want to know if
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Graham Benziger is telling the truth there.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's shuffling blame around.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: To be honest. It would certainly seem like it. I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: don't know why anyone in Seattle would give Graham Benzinger
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: some benefit of the doubt on this at this point,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: but whatever. But it bears repeating that those of us
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: that cover Mike McDonald every day know things that are
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: clearly off the record. Without Mike McDonald saying, hey, this
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: is off the record, he has told us stuff in
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: settings that were obviously not for public use. As recently
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: as last month in Nashville, when we sat with him
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: for an hour and a half in the team hotel
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: before the preseason game, a day before the preseason game
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: against the Titans, an hour and a half worth of
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: off-the-record talk, just informing the beat and getting to know
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the coach a little bit. And he revealed stuff in
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: there that none of us have revealed or talked about
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: or printed, and nor should we, because we would have
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a hard time doing our job, not to mention the
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: professional relationship that we have with the head coach of
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the team we cover. I mean, Graham Benzinger did what
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: he did because he doesn't have to face the music
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: of dealing with Mike McDonald every day. He goes on
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to his next interview in his next town and doesn't
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: have the accountability piece that those of us who deal
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: with Mike McDonald on a daily basis do. Right.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: So he doesn't need that access and he doesn't have
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: a relationship.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: And McDonald, you heard him say, no matter what I
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: thought the conditions were, He learned a hard lesson of
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: somebody who doesn't have a stake in daily coverage of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: me is not going to be like the beat writers are.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: He's got the trust.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's still new as a head coach.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. He's the first time head coach. It was 36
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: when he took the job. He had never had it
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: at any level been a head coach, not high school,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: not college, not pro. And now here he is. But
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: he has a level of trust with us as beat
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: writers that obviously he had projected onto others in journalism.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: And Graham Benzinger doesn't fit in that realm at all.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: And he doesn't have the same stakes that we do. So, no.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: He can feel like he doesn't. Maybe Graham Bensinger doesn't
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: even have the mental calculus to say, wait a minute.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to burn him if I use this in
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: air this. Where those of us who deal with Mike
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: McDonald and the Seahawks on a daily basis absolutely would
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: have that compass and say no. There have been a
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: couple things. I mentioned that story yesterday. There was something
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: about a player in practice about three weeks ago. that
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald didn't want us to see. And it came
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: out during the public portion of the practice. And he
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: came over and made it clear that to the PR
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: staff that he, they didn't want us to report this.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: And we shouldn't have been out here when this happened
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: and the viewing period. And we all as a beat decided, well,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: we're not printing this. We're not, we're not going to
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: show the video of this and we're not printing this
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: because I, as I said to the beat, why are
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: we going to burn the head coach before week one
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: of the season and that we've gotten along great with.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: It wasn't that bad.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Is this not worth it?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The risk-reward calculation there was not at all in
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: our favor to reveal it, so we didn't. None of
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: us wrote or printed or anything, and everything was fine.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: It was no big deal. And the next day, Mike
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: McDonald came up to us and said, hey guys, thanks
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: for doing me a solid there. He knew. He knew
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: we could have printed it. He knew we could have
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: run the video. None of us did. And he came
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: over and thanked us for it. And I've done this
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: for a few days, like 25 years, and I can
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: count on half of one hand how many times that's happened.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: So that's how the daily relationship between the media and
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the head coach of an NFL team work. This Graham
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Benzinger is just a parachuting in, hit piece, leave. Up next.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: What are we going to go to next? Not this.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Let's pivot.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I think we're done with Graham. We're done with Graham.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: He got his three minutes of fame. Again, I just
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: see on the text line, people say, you don't know
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: who Graham Benzinger is? It's a TV show. Well, just
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: because you have a TV show doesn't mean you should
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: be famous.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Nobody has cable anymore, man. Well, let's talk about who
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: the starting quarterback might be.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald's rear end, Drew Locke getting first-team reps in
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: practice still, and where the Seahawks quarterback situation is right now,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: three days before they play at Washington. That's next on
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJRFM. Hi, welcome back. Greg Bell is at the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Seahawks headquarters. Jessamyn McIntyre is back at LA Bay Studios.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Did you just start in person?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry. I, Greg Bell, am at the Mason Athletic Center.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: I'm just having fun with it. Yeah, no problem.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: You should. Check me at the door. Thank you. So
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: at Dune, the starting quarterback usually talks on Thursdays. for
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the week, but now who's the starting quarterback? Is it
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald? Is it Drew Locke? Are we going to
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: get both of them at the podium? One after the
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: other at the same time? I remember one time Richard
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Sherman and Doug Baldwin came to the podium at the
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: same time to rip on Roger Goodell in the NFL.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: That was epic.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: That was epic.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: That was great. He had a cardboard cutout of Pepsi.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: It was great. Anyway, who are they going to have?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Are they going to have Drew Locke? Because he took
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: first team reps yesterday. Well, today's how Sam Donald feels today.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: after practicing for the first time in two weeks after
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: his strained glute in the opener, how he feels today
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: is going to tell a lot because if he feels
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: good enough, he's going to get more first-team reps today.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: And if he gets more first-team reps, they're going to
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: point him towards starting because you don't give a quarterback
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: reps during the week if he's not going to play.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: So today will be the telltale. Here's where it stands.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Darnold coming back from practice was a limited participant yesterday.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: They officially listed him as that on the NFL practice
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: participation report because NFL rules are If you don't do
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: your normal load of repetitions in a practice, no matter
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: what player you are, then you have to be counted
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: as limited. And Sam Darnold, of course, normally when he practices,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: gets every one of the reps with the starting offense.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: So the fact that he didn't make him a limited
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: participant yesterday. So it's an unusual situation that the Seahawks
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: are going through right now of having Darnold and Locke splitting.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's splitting 50-50, maybe just
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: dividing is a more accurate term. The first team reps, Darnold,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: of course, has watched Locke complete 73% of his passes
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: and be the second best passer rating quarterback in the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: league in the seven and a half quarters he's played
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: this season for the injured Darnold. And so if Darnold
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: is not fully ready to play, as in today he
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: still feels sore, doesn't feel quite right, the Seahawks would
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: have no problem at all with Drew Locke starting against
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Washington on Sunday, not with the defense, especially the way
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: they're playing. But McDonald has said if the Sam Darnold
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: is healthy to play. He's playing. They're not going to
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: go extra cautious or because the 0-2 commanders are the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: backup quarterback or because the Seahawks defense is only allowed
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: 17 points total in two games. They're not going to
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: give Darnold another week just for the sake of giving
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: him another week. If he's ready to play, he's going
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to play. So that's where it stands. We'll know more today,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: but it will be interesting to see how the Seahawks
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: PR staff and team handles this.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: I was just going to ask you, too, because this
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: goes way beyond the PR staff and it goes to
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: the coaching and John Schneider as well. Just how much
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: gamesmanship do you think is being played right now?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: And we're going to find out at noon because if
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: they bring both Darnold and Sam Darnold and Drew Locke,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: that would be ultimate engagement.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: I would love it if they did that. I would
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: love it if they did that. And I know that
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels is hurt and Marcus Mariota is starting and
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: the commanders are 0-2. But just every edge. He chases
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: edges and I would love it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: If I was the head coach and the PR director,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: that's what I would do. I would bring them both out.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I would too. I would. I don't know if they'll
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: do that, but that's what I would do. We're going
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to find out in about an hour's time. Up next,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: we're going to find out from Farhan Lalji what's around
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the NFL, including Clint Kubiak's 2-0 Raiders, Jim Harbaugh's 0-2
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Chargers who come into Seattle next week, how he feels
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: about the quarterback injuries around the league and Seattle's situation
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: at backup quarterback that is better than anybody's. Farhan Lalji,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: TSN Canada. will join us next on his weekly segment
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: with us on 93.3 KJRFM. Good morning. Happy Thursday. Headlines
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: are brought to you by Frostbrew Coors Light. As cold
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: as the Rockies, the Mariners aren't mathematically eliminated. Not yet.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Josh Naylor's two-run single with the bases loaded in the
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: 10th inning last night off Houston closer Josh Hader sent
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the M's over to the trash cans at the yard
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: in Soto 6-5. The Mariners are four games out with
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: four games to play. The only way that they make
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: the playoffs is to sweep a four-game series that begins
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: tonight at the yard against the Angels while the trash
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: cans must get swept in four games at the A's
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: that starts tonight in Sacramento. Plus, the Rangers must lose
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: this morning, starting this morning, in about a half hour
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: at home against the Mets. plus get swept in three
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: straight this weekend by the Twins. That's the only way
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: they get in. Other than that, they're eliminated. Sam Darnold
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: practiced with his Seahawks for the first time in two
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: weeks yesterday since he injured his glute getting sacked on
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the fifth play of the season. Divided the first team
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: reps with Drew Locke, so he was listed as a
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: limited practice participant. How Darnold's body responds today to that
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: work is going to determine if he gets more first
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: team reps in practice today, and that will determine if
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: it's Darnold or Locke. Starts for the Seahawks Sunday at Washington.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Coach Mike McDonald says they'll make that decision by the
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: end of the day Friday. The team flies Friday to Washington,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: the D.C. area, for the game Sunday. Nick Emanuari was
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: full go yesterday at a game week practice for the
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: first time since days before the Super Bowl in February.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: McDonald says Emanuari is going to get substantially more work
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: in place Sunday at Washington than he did in a
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: nine-snap debut in Arizona last weekend. Emanuari told me after
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: that game in the desert he's fully back. and he
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: intends to play all the snaps with the starting defense
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the rest of the season. Rookie running back Jadarian Price
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: limited yesterday in practice three days after he left the
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Arizona game with a shoulder injury. He looked pretty normal
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: to me in the initial part of practice. Signs are
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: he may play on Sunday, though Emmanuel Wilson is going
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: to get some more run after his 92-yard rushing day
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: against the Cardinals. Zach Charbonnet is eligible to return to
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: practice off the Physically Unable to Perform list, but he
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: did not and will not return to practice this week.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: He can't play until after week four. Anyway, NFL week
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: three begins tonight. Falcons at Packers in Lambeau Field live
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: here on 93.3 KJR starting at 515. Hey, the Sounders won.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Their MLS record 13 straight matches without a win.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Let's go, genuine Jacksons.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they won. It's over. The winless streak is over
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: 2-0 of Real Salt Lake last night. The Storm ended
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: their WNBA season with a loss to Dallas at Climate
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Pledge Arena. Seattle went 8-36 this season. The Storm will
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: finish the exhibition season this weekend. They've got a game
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: tomorrow at Climate Pledge. They play a game this weekend.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: And then October 1st, Tuesday, is opening day for the
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Kraken at Calgary. Speaking of Canada, speaking of pucks, speaking
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: of the NFL. Farhan Laws, you can see us in Canada.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Our weekly guest joining us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: where I think he's somewhere in the Seattle metropolitan area
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: on his way here to Seahawks headquarters. Good morning, sir.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: How are you? I know you can't say speaking of
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: puck with me. You know me. I'm a football guy.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Hockey is my necessary evil when I'm only back in Canada.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: If I had come 15 minutes earlier, I could have
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: just sat down like I'm literally going to finish this
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: segment and then walk in and.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Give you a hug. That's how it's going to turn
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: out timing-wise.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Well, the cell phone reception is better in the Seattle
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: metro area, so that's good.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have cell phones in Canada. We still
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: use tin cans and strings.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: All these quarterback injuries around the league, Farhan. Caleb Williams
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: in Chicago. Here's another Jackson Dart Monday night, and now
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: it looks like he's out for the season. And yet
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Seattle rolls on with Drew Locke. Do the Seahawks have
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: the best backup quarterback situation in the league? And how
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: rare is it? for Locke doing what he's doing and
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: a team not missing the beat like this?
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's fair to put Locke in that discussion.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: You know, we haven't seen it yet, but I think
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: San Francisco is.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: A pretty good one with Mac Jones.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: But the reason the CX have such a great situation
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: is because their defense is the best in the league, right?
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: When you have the best defense in the league, you
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: don't have to put that kind of pressure on a
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: back at quarterback and look full marks to drew lock, right?
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Showed up in the fourth quarter when they needed him
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: in the first game. You look at this second game
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: and just, you know, three touchdown passes.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: He looks calm. He understands the offense. He's efficient. The
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: game doesn't look.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Too big for him. And again, he knows when he's
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: playing the game, right? I don't need to do too much, right?
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: You're playing from ahead. It's a comfortable place to live. And,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: you know, even though the, you know, the running game
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: hasn't completely blown up yet, the team is still committed
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: to it. And then you put him in favorable situations
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: all the time. So I think he's in a great
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: situation because of what's around him, but the team's also
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: in a very good situation to have him.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go right to the rest of the
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: NFC West to you. The Rams, the game the other
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: night that caught my eye when I was flying back
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: from Phoenix was that Aaron Donald played 58% of the snaps,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: way more than I would have figured he would have been.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: You were down at Rams training camp when the Donald
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: thing was he was coming back and working his way back.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Do you see this as sustainable? Do you see him
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: as being a three-down guy by the time the Seahawks
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: and Rams play on Christmas Day?
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it'll be an entirely different team. Both
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: teams could be entirely different by then. So I think
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: the plan is that at that point, yeah, he's going
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: to be that guy.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: 32 snaps in that game, I.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Think is reasonable for him. And I think he was
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: relatively productive, right? Had the tackle for loss, had a
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: couple of assists, one quarterback pressure, and he only got
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: double teamed seven times, right?
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: So.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: when he gets double teamed a little bit more, does
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: that take a little bit of a bit of a toll?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Eventually you're going to get miles Garrett back. Does that,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: you know, get him even, you know, easier matchups, right?
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Like those are all things that are going to factor in.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: But I think that, you know, it was always part
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: of the plan to ramp them up. And while it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: week one for him, it's week two for the team.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: And there was just a greater need, right? Because when
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: you don't have miles Garrett, you need to find ways
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: to rush the Sasha from inside out versus outside in.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: So that stuff that they're going to, uh, you know,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: work their way through.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: But I think he's going to be like, I thought
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: he looked good.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: I didn't think he looked like he was, um, out
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: of his depth. He didn't look out of shape. You know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: he only had two padded practices and it's not going
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: to get much better for him because it's just that
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: time of year. And we just don't do a lot
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: of padded practices anymore. So, you know, I think there's
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: just going to be a constant exercise in management and
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: getting them ready. But I think 32 will be the
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: bottom end and he is going to trend towards 60
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: plus snaps by the time they get to Christmas.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Rams at Broncos is the Sunday night game this week.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Also in the NFC West, the 49ers are two and
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: oh Brock, Purdy, 20 of 22 passing to beat the
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: terrible Dolphins in the home opener for San Francisco this
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: past weekend. You said in the preseason you weren't sure
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: this was a three-team race anymore because of all the
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: health issues for San Francisco. Is it surprising to start
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: off to the way they handled the Rams in Australia?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And Brock Purdy, we talk a lot about him in Seattle,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people up here don't give him
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of credit for being a good quarterback. What's
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: your view of Brock Purdy after his performance on Sunday
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: and the 49ers in general?
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Look, I think he's a very good quarterback and I
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: think he's the right quarterback.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: In a college Shanahan system.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: I'm really impressed with what he's done.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: And I think it's easy to say that.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: The schedule for them has been bad because the Rams were,
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: you know, as, as Sean McVay said, led by a
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: dumb ass coach, you put them in a bad situation.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: And I think that's real.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: So I think that you have to kind of grade
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: that game on a bit of a curve. The dolphins
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: are going to be in contention for the number one
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: pick overall in the draft next year. So that's kind
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: of a charity game. But at the same time, you
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: also have to factor in the injuries that Brock Purdy
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: has had at receiver, right? I mean, you know, to
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: lose Ricky Pearsall in training camp, Deshaun Stripling, who was
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: a guy they were really expecting some things from.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: This year, and, you know, Robinson as well.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: So, you know, George Kittle came back for that first
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: game and kind of eased his way back in a
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: So, you know, when you look at what.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: He's had to work with, I think you've got to
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: give him credit, despite the fact that he hasn't necessarily
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: played the best of defenses. Yeah. I like Brock Purdy.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: And he's got a lot to live up to because
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: of the contract.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: It just puts so much more pressure on him and
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: also prevented them from being able to add a lot
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: to his weaponry. Right now, he's playing as well as
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: any quarterback in the league. There's just no way around that.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: He is playing incredibly well. Who do you look at?
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, and who else is playing better?
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Than Brock Purdy right now.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Do you think... When I look at Christian McCaffrey's stats,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: his Farhan Laws, UTSN Canada, joining us at Beacon Plumbing Hotline,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: his weekly appearance with us around the NFL. When I
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: look at Christian McCaffrey's stats, 20 carries for 91 yards total,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: though he did have two touchdowns against the Dolphins. He
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: only had 23 yards. Do you think they're pacing him?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: He had a contract issue at the beginning of the
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: training camp, and he kind of made some noise about that.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: What do you think the long... I know he's getting
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: up there in age and he's had some injury issues,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: but the offense is so predicated on the run in
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: San Francisco. Christian McCaffrey is going to get more than
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: 10 carries and 23 yards in games going forward, no?
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: And I think they absolutely are pacing him. This is
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: a player that you can't expect to stay healthy because
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: even though he managed to get through all the games
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: last year, you know, going into the year, there were
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: questions about him a year ago. The previous year, there
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: were issues around him. He's always that guy that's going
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: to get those muscular type injuries. And, you know, as
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: we talk about quarterbacks, somebody was asking me that, you.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Know, is this because of the preseason? Nobody plays starters
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: in the preseason. I don't know that it's an.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Issue for quarterbacks because of the randomness of the type
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: of injury, but in Christian McCaffrey's case, it's always a
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: muscular injury with him.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Like he's so muscle bound that way that that's what
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: you've always got to worry about. So I think they
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: have to treat the first couple of regular season games
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: as preseason games for McCaffrey and ramp them up. He's
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: eventually going to play more, but that first game when,
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: what is it? Kalon Thomas said the line or Kalon, yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: from the Indiana rookie had the bulk of the carries for, for,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: for the 49ers.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: It raised my eyebrows, but it showed that they are
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: being smart with him. And I, More than any other
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: player in the NFL right now, I think he is
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: treating the early season, Paul Shannon is treating the early
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: season games for Christian McCaffrey as the preseason.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: So his workload is going to increase. It's going to
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: have to.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: And they've gotten two wins while doing that, like you said.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: And now the next three for San Francisco versus Arizona
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: versus Denver and at Seattle against the Seahawks in week five.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak and the Raiders are 2-0. There's some people
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: here that thought, well, Clint Kubiak's not a head coach.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: They saw his affect in press conferences and how stayed
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: and maybe just boring and plain he was, and how
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: can he lead men? Here the Raiders are 2-0. They
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: beat the Chargers, which most people at the beginning of
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: the season didn't think they would do. 2-0 in a division,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: of course, that still has Patrick Mahomes, has Bo Nix
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: in Denver. You're buying into the Raiders, and what do
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: you see is how they're 2-0 and beating, what did
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: they beat the Cardinals the first week? I can't even
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: remember if they beat the first week, and then they
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: handled the Chargers pretty easily.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I'm not buying into them as a contender
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: and a team that's going to finish above 500 and,
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: you know, be knocking on the playoff door. I don't
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: see that, but I am impressed with what's happening. And
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: I think that this is a step for them, right?
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Like a step for a team like this is to,
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: you know, go six and 11 and just be competitive
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: in every game. And I think that's That's a place
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: where they can get to. And Kirk cousins is, is
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: allowed them to be a little bit more stable with
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: what's happening offensively.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: And again, you know, we, we talk about the chargers.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Like I've, I've told you since day one, I think
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: the charges are fraudulent despite having the best quarterback in
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: the history of football, right? Like remember just to this
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: quarterback in the history of football, according to his head coach. But,
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: you know, and he's got no receivers to throw to
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: outside of Ladd-McCaulkey. But then I look at the Raiders
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: roster and you look at where they're at a receiver and,
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: you know, you've got Tucker with five catches for 119
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: yards and a touchdown in that last game. And they
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: don't even have Brock Bowers yet. and Ashton Genting hasn't
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: really launched yet, right? 21 carries for just 48 yards
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: in the last game. So in the first two games,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: I thought he would really take a step this year,
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: but they've still got some offensive line questions. So I
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: like the way Flint Kubiak has handled their offense and
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: is not exposing them to areas where they're not going
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: to be vulnerable, right? So he's putting Cousins in favorable situations.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: And even though Genting isn't It hasn't been overly dynamic yet.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: They're still fully committed to it. And that's part of
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: the Mike McDonald playbook, right? He doesn't care if you're
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: not great running the ball at this moment. I mean,
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: he does care, but he's not going to allow that
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: to prevent him from selling his offensive coordinator. You're going
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: to damn well run the ball, right? Because we saw
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: what happened with Ryan Grubb when he refused to run
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: the ball. So I think that Clint Kubiak has taken
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: some of that and said, look, no matter what, We're
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: going to be committed to this and we're going to
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: put our quarterback in advantageous.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Situations, right?
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: Uh, 19 of 29, you don't want her cousins throwing
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: in the high thirties on a game by game basis
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: because they're playing catch up from the early going. Right.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: So I, you know, I think it's been good. They
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: protected the ball. Their defense has.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Taken a step.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Matt Crosby's Max Crosby's found his game. Despite all of
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: that drama in the off season, what is he getting
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: traded to Baltimore or not?
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, he's been able to be really, really impactful.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: So, uh, You know, I think they're in a good place,
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: and I think for them, six to seven wins, be
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: competitive even in the losses, and then you can reset
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: your culture, which Pete Carroll was never able to do.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: You did say about the Chargers that you didn't think
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: they were this, but did you think they were this bad?
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, in L.A., they're talking like this is just
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: doomsday and trade everybody and fire everybody, and what's hard
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: about doing? Is it the offensive line? Is it the
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: fact they don't have a go-to receiver, which you've told
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: us about? The defense they've tried to remake. What do
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: you think the main issues are with the Chargers who
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: come in into Seattle next week to play the Seahawks?
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, I think that, yeah, they don't
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: have a difference maker at receiver, right? Like, you know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: we talked about Ladd McConk. He was a solid receiver,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: but shouldn't be a number one in my estimation. They've
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: got no targets around him. You know, it's been interesting watching...
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel, who I thought was going to be able
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: to unlock them and at least kind of use the
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: motions and use the shifts and kind of get them
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: into advantageous situations as far as matchups are concerned or
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: leverage is concerned. That hasn't really happened yet. They've tried,
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: but I just feel like it's very much a work
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: in progress for them. They don't have anything they can
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: kind of hang their hat on, right? I mean, even
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: in the last game, Omari and Hampton wasn't bad, 4.1
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: yards a carry in that game, but it's... Justin Herbert
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: is turning the ball over. He's taking sacks. The offensive
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: line's got some issues. They got healthy at offensive tackle,
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: but then all of a sudden they got banged up
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: in the interior. It hasn't worked the way they wanted. Defensively,
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: their defense isn't good.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Enough to keep them in games.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: It's a roster that's built around relying on Justin Herbert
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: and a coach who deep down wants to run the
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: football and an offensive coordinator who's comfortable running the football
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: but needs weapons to allow for some creases to be
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: taken in the running game, and it just hasn't happened yet.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: So I wouldn't fire everybody and throw the baby out
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: with the bathwater. I still think McDaniel's a good coach,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: but their front office needs to find a way to
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: add some speed in the receiving corps because they flat
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: out don't have it.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Fire and Lology, TSN Canada, joining us on the Beacon
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Plumbing Online. He's on his way here to Seahawk headquarters
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks practice day to see if Sam Donald is,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: in fact, going to practice for the second consecutive day
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: and then start Sunday at the Commander's. All right, tonight's
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: game is Atlanta at Green Bay. Michael Penix, Jr., it
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: looks like he's going to start a quarterback, whether he's
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: ready to or not, because everybody else is hurt in Atlanta.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: The Falcons, they've tried to remake themselves a couple times
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: here in the last couple years, including on defense, including
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: a quarterback, including a coach, including a general manager. Where
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: do you view them? And then there's the Packers, who
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: remain an NFC contender. When you think about down-the-road playoff contenders,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I think the Packers are right up there with someone
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks could meet in January. Just give us a
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: little forecast of what you're thinking about this game tonight
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: that's going to be on KGR at 515.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of like you in terms of my
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: bullishness on the Packers, but I just haven't liked the
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: way they played this season.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: And despite the results, I.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Think the process has been a bit of holding your breath, right?
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Like it just hasn't looked as clean as you thought
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: it might. You know, Jordan Love looks like he's still
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: got He's still trying to find his game this year.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: You know, in my mind, you know, they've had to
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: play from behind a little bit, but as far as
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: the Falcons and Panics are concerned, I think these are
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: really important times for him. And I'm a, you know me,
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: I'm a big Huskies fan and I'm a big Michael
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Panics fan. And I think that, you know, his first year,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: he showed so much promise and wasn't able to follow
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: it up. And now you're kind of dealing with a
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: different group of people around you. And you're trying to
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: make an impression on them that, you know, even though
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: they might not have been the ones that drafted you,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: they should believe in you. Um, you know, and, and
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: they haven't really unlocked Bijan Robinson yet.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: So two is also going to be healthy enough to
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: play as the backup in this game. But I, to me,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: I think they should invest in Penix a little more
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: and see what they've got, but they need to take
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: a page out of Clint Kubiak's playbook and just lean
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: on Bijan Robinson as much as you can and not
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: put the entire game in in Michael Penix's lap, right? So,
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: you know, I want to see what happens, but from
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: Penix's perspective, when you do throw the football, like you
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: just can't put the ball in harm's way.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: And even though he's, you.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Know, wired to be a big play down the field passer,
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: he needs to be a bit of a game manager
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: right now. And just because if you play from behind
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: and it all falls in your lap, bad things are
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: going to happen for them. So I think from a,
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: from an offensive coordinator standpoint, like just go with, with
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Bijan as much as humanly possible tonight. And, you know,
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: the Packers are still trying to find themselves defensively as well,
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: you know, without Parsons kind of, you know, playing where, where,
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: you know, they're expecting him yet.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: So, It should be an interesting game, right?
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, Lambeau's just the best place to watch
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: a football game. I know we love Lumen Field, but, like,
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: Lambeau is awesome. So I'm looking forward to watching it
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: and seeing what we get out of both teams. There's
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: just a lot of question marks in Atlanta, and I
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: think the Packers just have another level to get to.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: They haven't shown it yet.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: And now, all of a sudden, what we thought was
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: going to be just a really, really difficult division, wow,
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: it could fall back to them.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because the Bears aren't going
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: to be a factor yet.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: The Lions haven't done anything yet. Like, all of a sudden,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: This could be the Packers' division to lose.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Packers are 1-1 after losing, getting pulled away at the end.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: The Vikings beat them 39-22. And then last week, they
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: had to go to overtime to beat the Jets on
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: the road. This is their home opener night in Lambeau.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: The Falcons are 0-2. They lost 20-13 at the Steelers
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: when T.J. Watt intercepted a pass late in the game
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: and ran it back. And then, man, they got crushed
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: in their home opener by the Panthers, 34-3. And the
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Falcons get the Packers tonight at 5-15 here on KJR.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Anything else around the league that sticks out to you
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: or you want to mention about either a surprise, a disappointment, Seahawks-related,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: not Seahawks-related, just what sticks out to you through two
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: weeks of the season?
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Well, I want to ask you, and I think you
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: asked the question to Mike McDonald yesterday, but should the
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Seahawks take an even more cautious approach with Sam Darnold?
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about that. I would.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: I feel like he's going to start this game. Just
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: because he took at least half the reps yesterday from
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: what we're led to believe. You have to believe he's
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: going to take more as long as he kind of
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: came out of yesterday in good shape. So, but you've
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: got a Washington team that's already on their backup quarterback.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: And I mean, Marcus Mariota did reasonably well in the
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: second half of the last game against the Cowboys, but
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: you know, they're just, they were behind in that game.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: can you take Washington for granted enough where it's no
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: problem to put, uh, to go with drew lock for
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: one more game?
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: I think so. The way this defense is playing, I
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: don't know if there's anybody beside the Rams and 49ers
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: on the schedule that you wouldn't think that about. No.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, I tend to agree. And I think that
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: defense is only going to get better now that you've
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: got Nick and Manori back and eventually, um, you know, when,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: when Ty O'Connor gets back from his hamstring injury in
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: a few weeks here, um, They're only going to get better.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: So if it's me, I would probably take a real
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: cautious approach with it. But it doesn't sound like McDonald's
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: going to. And the fact that you've got a backup
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: quarterback you can trust allows you to take a little
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: bit of risk with your starter. But I would probably
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: wait one more game, but it doesn't sound like they're
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: going to.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: I agree with you there, and I agree with you
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: that it doesn't sound like they're going to either. Farhan,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: we're going to see you in like three minutes here
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: at Seahawk Headquarters. Thanks for being on again, man.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: What's for lunch today, buddy?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: No lunch on Thursday, man. You're going to be bereft
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: of food. You've got to bring your own. Stop on
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: your way in.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: There's a Subway and Starbucks across the street, my friend.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: There's a McDonald's. We've got some snack granola bars in here.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: That's it, man. All right, man.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon.
• 1:00:36
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• 1:00:38
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• 1:00:42
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• 1:01:01
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• 1:01:50
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  Speaker 11: You have the things you stand by. He's just a
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  Speaker 11: He's just a product of the internet and the media.
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  Speaker 12: Well, comment and understanding of on the record or off
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  Speaker 12: the record, what you're saying is that that the journalist
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  Speaker 12: is the one who decides whether it's going to be
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  Speaker 12: on the record or off the record after it's said.
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  Speaker 12: That kind of bothers me because it puts the power
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Us talk fans are unbelievably lucky to have this guy
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  Speaker 4: as our coach.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'll say. He's an amazing man. He's an
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  Speaker 2: amazing coach.
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  Speaker 3: Get the most out of his guys, out of our organization. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just can't say it enough.
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  Speaker 5: We're just incredibly lucky to have him.
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  Speaker 3: I hope he stays around until he dies.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he.
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  Speaker 3: Is just unbelievably awesome.
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  Speaker 8: And, yeah, go Hawks, go Mike.
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  Speaker 3: We got the one, man.
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  Speaker 12: Standing that the press, and again, entertainment press, versus true
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  Speaker 12: journalism are going to make a decision whether it should
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  Speaker 12: be reported to the public. The term unbecoming, if you
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  Speaker 12: saw something like that, would it get reported as a
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  Speaker 12: journalist or as an entertainer?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, it's me, Rodney.
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  Speaker 8: Rodney Dangerfield here again.
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  Speaker 6: I tell you what, this would have been a good
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  Speaker 6: story for that movie of mine, Meet Wally Sparks, because
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  Speaker 6: this is nothing. If I would have heard this story
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  Speaker 6: at a restaurant, I'd send it back, because it's a
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  Speaker 6: big nothing burger. I mean, tell you what, I did
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  Speaker 6: read this story, though, in the newspaper. I was surprised
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  Speaker 6: to see it in the obituaries. And then I realized
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  Speaker 6: the story's dead. No, no, tell you what, no respect.
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  Speaker 6: I get no respect in that Mike guy. He gets
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  Speaker 6: no respect, I tell you what.
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  Speaker 5: I do appreciate those, yes. Obviously, we found the lightning
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  Speaker 5: rod of the topic of the day.
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  Speaker 2: do you hate the Mariners? I hate them this season,
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  Speaker 2: And I wrote them back and saying, well, No, I
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  Speaker 2: want the Mariners to go to the World Series, and
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  Speaker 2: That's what makes this frustration and pain even more because
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  Speaker 2: of what happened last year and the fact that they
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  Speaker 2: got eight outs from the World Series and now they're
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  Speaker 2: 10 games under. 500 in a division that is just
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  Speaker 2: I said, they could have won this division going backwards,
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  Speaker 2: and they didn't. That boss P206 is a boss PR
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  Speaker 2: move for the Seahawks at noon would be to make
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  Speaker 5: That's what we were saying earlier.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. That's what I would do.
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  Speaker 5: Someone earlier had texted in and asked, you know, like,
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  Speaker 5: And there's some clarification you can provide.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, one, he doesn't have an injury, so he
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  Speaker 2: This is actually more than his normal reps. He's getting
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  Speaker 2: more first-team reps than he ever does when he's the
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  Speaker 5: It was an indicator, yes. I am going to take
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  Speaker 5: I kind of went deep on that one. You know,
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  Speaker 2: message about... Wanting Mike McDonald to be here until he dies. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was a little... He's only 39 years old. I know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, okay, okay. Let's just not talk about
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  Speaker 2: I hope he stays the rest of his life until
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  Speaker 2: 206 says, I'm dramatic about Mike. I hear you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. And I think the beginning of that text or
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  Speaker 5: voice message was that we are so lucky to have him.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Point made, point accepted, and point gotten. We got that
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  Speaker 5: It's either fact or fiction.
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  Speaker 2: Correct. So redo that if you did.
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  Speaker 5: And don't send in the pic either. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We already know what the pic was. Yes. 253 says,
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  Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks should still start block. It's a
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  Speaker 2: long season. Injuries can happen at any time. If you
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  Speaker 2: to put Darnold out there, you're in good shape. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I would do, especially with the way the
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• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: We'll see how Sam Darnold reacts today to practicing yesterday
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: for the first time since the injury two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 5: In reference to the Mariners, I love this from the 206,
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  Speaker 5: Was it over when Germany bombed Pearl Harbor?
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  Speaker 2: What's that reference from, text line? Come on. Those of
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  Speaker 5: Yes, but every time I say that quote on the air,
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  Speaker 5: It was a really inspiring speech, too.
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  Speaker 2: It was. That was his best. That's all he had
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  Speaker 5: 3-6-0.
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  Speaker 2: I think Darnold should play to shake off some rust
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather his game back be against the Commanders instead
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  Speaker 2: of a playoff caliber team. Well, that's an interesting point, too. Anyway, 4-9-4-5-1. Thanks,
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  Speaker 2: the starting quarterback press conference person that Seahawks present to us.
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  Speaker 2: I think they should put both Sam Donald and Drew Locke.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's an interesting one. Probably get it. Yeah, I think,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that would be the thing to do just
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  Speaker 8: to kind of mess with everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I forgot about that's the protocol today. Yeah, you get
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  Speaker 8: the starting quarterback, so who is it going to be?
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  Speaker 8: And will that person actually be the starting quarterback? I
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  Speaker 8: don't think they're not putting Sam out there. It's got
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  Speaker 8: to be Drew.
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  Speaker 2: You don't think? You don't think? I think now that
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  Speaker 2: he's back to practice, it's a good possibility. Limited, though.
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  Speaker 8: I think you leave it kind of open and open-ended
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  Speaker 8: because I think they like the little mystery.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh, I know they like the little mystery.
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  Speaker 8: That's why you do it. You say, hey, we'll put
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  Speaker 8: I'll be prepared. It's a simple thing. I'm prepared to start.
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  Speaker 8: You know, if Sam's ready to go, that's fine, but
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  Speaker 8: I'm preparing like I'm the starter. I mean, he must
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  Speaker 8: have taken most of the reps yesterday if Sam was limited, right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, by convention, it means that fewer 50% of the
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  Speaker 2: double snaps. Right, right. But Darnold takes 100% when he's practicing. Right, so. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's short of that. Today's the day. I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: Darnold's body's good enough where he's going to get more
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  Speaker 2: first-team reps, then he's going to start. Yeah. If he's not,
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  Speaker 2: then he's not.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I get it. Why do you hate the Mariners?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: That Bellingham guy and I actually went back and forth
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: and reached a common ground on that. Yeah, I just
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  Speaker 2: hate the opportunity they're wasting. I mean, I really like
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  Speaker 2: know a lot of people in the front office. I
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  Speaker 2: have been there for 20 years when I used to
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  Speaker 2: cover them daily for the AP. I want them to succeed.
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  Speaker 2: And it frustrates me when I go to the yard
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  Speaker 2: and just see stupid plays or Naylor not running out
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  Speaker 2: of ground ball or throwing balls in the stands. That
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  Speaker 2: just drives me crazy.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I think you can like the team and
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  Speaker 8: be a fan of the team and yet hate that
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  Speaker 8: particular version of the team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I've gone through that with Wazoo before a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Hey.
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  Speaker 8: Any Ernie Kent coach team, for example.
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  Speaker 2: You and Ernie Kent, man.
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  Speaker 8: Most of the Paul Wolf, well, he stole money. I mean,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: basically didn't do anything. But, you know, a lot of
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: the Paul Wolf teams hated, so forth. I hated the
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  Speaker 8: last half of the John Mateer era. That season, that
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: was fun.
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  Speaker 2: Although, you know what?
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  Speaker 8: Oklahoma's getting their taste of it now, so enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. How could you not, if you're a
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Mariner fan, not hate this season? I mean, it's the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: most disappointing in team history.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, too, like what Sheehan said last week,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 8: and that's based on his numbers and his research, the
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  Speaker 8: most disappointing team ever. in MLB in this century, since 2000.
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  Speaker 2: And that's based on what? Previous season versus.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and projected war. I mean, just all the projections
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  Speaker 8: and everything like that. I mean, there's no team that
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 8: has been worse that was expected to be better than
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  Speaker 8: this team. I mean, it's one thing if they missed
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: the playoffs this season and they had like 86 wins
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 8: or something, right? That's not the case, right? So, I mean,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: that's the hard part. That's definitely not the case. They're
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 8: a team that's... the division winner could end up having
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 8: a sub-500 record.
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  Speaker 11: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: And the Rangers are already losing 1-0 today.
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  Speaker 2: They are. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 8: You've got to be kidding me.
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  Speaker 2: Like, really?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's far-fetched to think that both
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 8: those teams are going to go winless in their Final Four.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Who knows? Two games under. 500 is first place right now.
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  Speaker 8: It's insane, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: The Trashcans and the Rangers are both 78-80. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. Oh, I lied.
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  Speaker 8: It's 2-1 Rangers now, bottom of the first. They've taken
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: the lead. They had a lead the other day and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 8: they blew it, so who knows.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: What do you got going today?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: Ross Tucker's going to join us. His weekly visit coming
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 8: up at 12.20. So we'll check in with Ross. We
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: got Eno Saris at 1.20 today, probably his second-to-last visit
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 8: of the season with him. We'll ask him about the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 8: disappointment of the baseball team. And then the unofficial star
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 8: of the weekend, Brandon Funston at 2 o'clock with Fantasy Football.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: The reminder once again, Text questions at 49451, not before noon.
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  Speaker 2: High noon.
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  Speaker 8: Last week we had two bullseyes and seven text messages
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 8: that came in one second after 12 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Seven.
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  Speaker 8: We had another five that were two seconds after.
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  Speaker 5: Noon last week. I love this audience so much.
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  Speaker 8: It's one of the fun experiments, things that I watch
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: for every week. It's just crazy. So 4-9-4-5-1, you've got
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 8: about four minutes. So there you go.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Ross Tucker is on the Cincinnati at Pittsburgh NFL game
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: on Sunday with the Iron Eagle on CBS. He ends
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: up next from 12 until 3 with that lineup. Thanks,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Jessamyn McIntyre, back in the studio. Thanks to you. Thanks
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: for the text. Thanks for the talkbacks. I'm going to
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: go find out what starting quarterback the Seahawks are going
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: to portray here this afternoon. He ends up next on
• 1:18:43
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