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150. July 2023 Astrology & Human Design Transits · The Rochelle Christiane Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Emotional Mastery Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, rochelle.
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  Speaker 1: This podcast started as a space to really just share my journey, to share the experiences and the things that I was going through as I learned to self-regulate, as I learned to manage my emotions, and it has transformed into so much more.
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  Speaker 1: I am a 6'3 emotional manifesting generator in human design, and so this space is really just everything that I trial and error.
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  Speaker 1: It is beautiful, it is painful, it is joyful, it is love, it is all of the things And we are all of the things all at once, and so just have grace with yourself, have compassion with yourself through this, and I am so grateful that you are listening to this episode, wherever you are listening.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for allowing me into your day.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Emotional Messer podcast.
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: This is going to be a really quick introduction.
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  Speaker 1: I am in Colorado on vacation with my family And it's been really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: All of the work I've been doing been looking into the Jean Keys, because we are diving into that in the next module of the Holistic Human Design Academy.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: But what's been coming up for me is this theme of being present, and so I've been really tuning into that and being present in my space and where I'm at.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: So I also did not fully have everything I needed for this recording, so if there are audio imbalances or anything, forgive us.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of this interview, my parents' dog started going crazy And people started mowing the lawn outside.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully you can hear through all of that.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, i will definitely have a lot more to say next week in reflection of everything this week.
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: But again, i've just been really been working on presence And I think that's a big theme that's been coming up And allowing yourself to be present is sort of a meditation in of itself, and I think I've gotten that message through meditations before where I'll feel like my kids will run in.
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: I get frustrated And the message I get is just to go be with them and be present, because that's more of a meditation than sitting here being frustrated with them.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: And so as I'm here in this beautiful space, beautiful city, just like soaking up nature and being here, that's been a focus for me.
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  Speaker 1: It's just presence And I head back on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the episode.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy it and I will catch you next week.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, welcome back to the Emotional Mastery podcast.
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  Speaker 1: This week We have Jesse Eccles again to talk about the Transits for July.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited to get into this one.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've got some big ones And personally, for myself and my own chart, there are some big shifts coming that I feel like I've been feeling over the last couple of months.
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: So it's just like a really interesting I don't know, just really interesting to track and see what's happening And I'm trying to be really present during all of it instead of like anticipating what's coming.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: But I did listen to the astrology podcast from last month to listen to like sort of like all the current events that happened.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: What I found like really interesting was the whole like Titanic thing was right after Saturn when retrograded in Pisces It was the day after And I'm like I feel like right, like restriction and water is like Saturn and Pisces Wild.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i know that's actually something I wanted to try to do is look up like current events a little bit more.
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: But I'm glad that you did that because I think I mean like every month, but this month particular feels like some really big collective shifts as well.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, i mean, that's the only one that like stood out to me that I was like oh, that's interesting.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: So I can't say I'm updated on current politics, but I know that the Titanic went out, the little submarine went out and imploded.
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: Right, right, interesting.
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i went down.
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: I mean I already had gone down that rabbit hole, but I like went back down that rabbit hole and just like all the Titanic stuff in general And there's some interesting parallels of like Pisces and energy around it and just like with Neptune also in Pisces and like this kind of like illusion and delusion around, like what we hear and like what's real, what's not.
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: All of that kind of stuff.
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's what I'm going to say.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: I think you know, we were also like fixated on this, like little submarine imploding but then there was like 300 refugees that like died on a boat and like nobody heard about that, right, and I mean, even like my daughter, who's 13, but she was just like mom, i have to know what happened on the submarine.
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like they're dead, like, but like that fixation on something like that as opposed to like actual current, like real, not to say that that's not real life, but there's just like was other bigger things, like you said, that illusion, right, that Neptune, sort of like pulling the veil of like what's important and what's not.
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: Exactly, and I think that's going to be a continued big theme of like, okay, something's going to be really big and it might be important and relevant to some extent, and like maybe really sad or really a lot of emotions, but also then, like, what else are we not hearing?
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: So okay, so we missed the full moon, but I don't know if you have any insight.
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: We missed the full moon.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: We didn't miss it.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: We're recording this on what is today the fifth.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: I think we're recording us in the fifth, so the full moon.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: we're still like, i guess, within that like full moon window, but yeah, i don't know if there's any reflections on the full moon that came up or anything big that we can.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: you know, this comes out tomorrow.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: So, just for something, people that might be able to reflect and be like oh well, that makes sense, it resonates.
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i think and you honestly can speak to this a little bit more on like the human design front, but I thought it was an interesting like gate that it was in specifically.
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: But Capricorn Cancer Access is like home versus public image right, or home versus career, family versus career.
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: It's all that kind of stuff.
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: But it's also like kind of that balance between structure and flow.
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: It's like that earth, water dynamic and on top of that like, it's like attachments, achievements, that kind of thing.
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: So kind of finding balance between like, which is to it's my like nodal access as well.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: So this it just feels irrelevant to me.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: It was quite close to my North and South node but it's this balance between like your ambitions, your career and like this ability to surrender and like, let go and like in that more feminine energy And I'm sure a lot of that kind of those themes came up for a lot of people.
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: Being in it wasn't conjunct Pluto, but just being in Capricorn I think is like relevant to the larger story with Pluto retrograde in Capricorn right now.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: But what I think was like interesting with the human design component was like the gate of the fighter, which I feel like is very much that Kyron and Ares that North node moving into areas.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: So I felt like it's like, yes, capricorn Cancer Home.
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: But I was like, okay, this is like the start of what are we even fighting for, and that's going to be like, I think, the big theme moving forward.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that makes so much sense.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: I actually didn't even look at what gate the full moon was in, which is really bad on me, because I was like I was hoping for the rest of the month.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's past, we'll just like move on.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that that, because I was looking here and I'm like gate 58.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's, that's an interesting one.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: I have the opposite one, so I don't have that one.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: So it's like I have all the reasons in the drive, right, like I have the, i have the purpose and the intention, but I don't have the actual fight in me.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: And so I think when we're looking at things and even when you're looking at that cancer Capricorn access like people are here to fight.
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: You know, am I air quoting like in different ways?
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: right, we're all not meant to be on the front lines.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: Some of us are just meant to like maybe nourish in the home, or like nourish those who are fighting, right, taking care of those.
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: And so it's like understanding which side you're on and how you can balance those out, Cause I think we do need a healthy expression of both of them, right?
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: But yeah, i'm, yeah, i'm up in Colorado, and it's just like, yeah, i'm up in Colorado and it's just like we went hiking on the full moon day and it was just like so nice, like the out in nature and like with family, which, of course, is all cancer.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: But then like finding that structure right, cause I think, like you are probably experiencing too, like when you're on vacation, you have, you know, a business and the kids and like all these things.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: It's like finding that routine and that structure within, being able to be fluid in the home right.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: It's kind of it's been a challenge and even just like my normal routines and I have Mars and Capricorn right.
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: So it's like when I find myself like out of my normal routine, i almost feel like I get frustrated because I'm like, oh my gosh, but I haven't been feeling that so much, which is interesting, so I don't know.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about, but maybe it's just like the kids are coming in strong.
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: No, it is really good.
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like I'm normally just like I'm not doing this in the morning, I'm not doing that at night, And then people need my attention and it's just been like a lot more fluid this time, which is really nice.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: That allows me to like really actually relax in and like be with nature, like go on the walks or be present Then maybe in the past.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: So beautiful.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: So the next one and I've tried to put this in chronological order, so if I'm missing anything, please stop me and we'll go back, but these are the ones I have no doubt.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: So July 10th Am I going, is that okay?
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: So July 10th we actually we have two.
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  Speaker 1: We have Mars moving into Virgo and Mercury moving into Leo.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: And Mars and Virgo is going into gate 29.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: And so there are two like big themes for like ingresses and like major transits that I'm seeing of this month, and that's gate 29 and gate 56, but gate 29 is all about like commitment, right, it is doing things.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: It is not.
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: It's shadow is half-heartedness, right.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: So it's like, and gate 29 is in the sacral, so it's like when you're committing to something that you actually don't want to, you're going to do it half-assed, right, and so like, this is really asking us to be like to discern what we want to commit to and, especially in Virgo, being of service, right, making sure we're entering things and being of service to others in a way that really feels good for us, cause Mars will, like plow right in there.
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: So I think that's really really a big theme.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: This month is really watching what we're committing ourselves to and making sure that we're doing it in alignment and not just because we feel like we have to.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: I also have gate 29 and 56 and my chart very strongly.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: So it's yeah, it's the second one.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: I mean I have so much Leo, my chart, that like getting into Leo's season I always get like super activated in like every way.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so Mars is entering Virgo and Mercury is entering Leo, but with that as well.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: So I'll talk about kind of some of the astrology which obviously aligns with everything you said, but right before I don't know like the hours, but right before Mercury enters Leo, it'll be at 29 degrees cancer right before zero degrees Leo and it will form a grand cross with so Mercury.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: It'll form a grand cross with the moon, the nodal axis and Pluto, which is a big deal, i feel collectively, because it's 29 degrees of cardinal signs, which is just a big deal.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: It's also where, like where, yeah, i feel like it's with mercury involved right before it moves into Leo.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna be more information potentially.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: It's just getting into a lot more of this like uproar type energy with Pluto involved, just like a lot of collective shifts, so that Grand Cross people might feel personally as well.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: I do think it's a little bit more collective, but I did wanna highlight that because I think it's gonna be a big shift into like a little bit of a shit storm collectively.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: We can I mean again like I don't watch the news a ton, but like my sister works for the EPA, so the government, and so to all her friends in different capacities and they were like all talking about all this stuff that was coming up in like the Supreme Court and like all this other stuff, and I was like that's about to like I don't know exactly all the details, but I was like that's about to hit the fan because especially we'll talk about this more but like South No Moving into Libra justice system, like there's just gonna be so many shifts and I think this Grand Cross like triggers it where, like Mars and Mercury both enter Virgo and Leo like every year, so that's like always happens around Leo, season-ish, right, but it's like this Grand Cross that's related to like the North, north, south and Pluto that's gonna, i feel like, really start to expedite some of what we're gonna see the next year or so collectively.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: And then do we have?
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: so when we have the new moon, we have the cancer filling that role for the Grand Cross, correct?
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's the one I have ran down.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't have the Mars one ran down, but that makes sense, yeah.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, i know I wasn't so, like I knew that that was coming up, but I wasn't sure, like energetically, what we could expect from that.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: So I'm glad that you definitely like touched on that And I think, like there's just so much Yeah, i mean I know we keep talking about it like there just continues to be so much, especially like Pluto's been in the mix like every month, you know, and I don't know.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: It's just really interesting, exactly, yeah, yeah.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: But also so with like Mars and Virgo this is my natal placement as well.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: I love this placement.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: in general We can find ourselves a little bit more motivated to work.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: Like Virgo can be a little bit like health oriented, so even just like cleaning up some of our daily routines and like kind of focusing on that.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: And yeah, i think it's a good one.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, i have Mars and Capricorn in the sixth house, so would I experience it a little bit like Mars and Virgo just because it's within that area.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: So, like my, it's all like tied into Virgo.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, cause I always like, for me, right, like Mars and Capricorn.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: To me it's more like, like I was saying before, it's more of like that structure and like systems within like my daily routine, right, like being able to make sure I do these things in like my health that I've always had like such a fire for, like health and fitness and like all these things.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: So that's where, always, where I see it coming up That makes so much sense to me for you as well.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Where mine, my, like my Mars is in Virgo in the ninth house and I'm just like super organized with like spreadsheets And I just like see the big.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Now let me turn it into like something that's really organized and that's how like I operate my life, though too right, Like it's like yeah.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, That's interesting, Like I don't have, like I wish.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: I love organization but it's so hard for me to get things like organized in that way right.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Like I'm more of like the aesthetic sort of, as opposed to like the spreadsheets, like open a spreadsheet and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I love them when they're created for me, but like me creating it myself, i'm just like what?
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Totally, totally, it's funny, okay.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: And then so the same day, then we do have Mercury entering to Leo, and that's gate 56, with what you're really familiar with, and gate 56 again, and then the moon, or the sorry the sun, moves into Leo on the 22nd in the same gate.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: So this is a bigger theme for the month and for you personally.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: You have this right.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: So these are like big themes that are coming up, but that is all about to get a stimulation, and so it's shadow, is distracting, right, and here it's all about like it talks about like enrichment in the sense of like self-discipline.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: It's like we're distracting ourselves from like our God self, like the truth within our higher self, right, and it's in all these little ways, like, instead of sitting with ourselves, like for meditation or like if we're going for a walk, and just like being with nature.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, i gotta be on Instagram or I have to like I've even found myself doing that, right, where it's like I'm in these beautiful places and I'm over here like making an Instagram story and I'm like, wait, just put it down and like be you know.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: But it's like it's those distractions from the things that will actually like propel us to move us forward.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: And then coming into that gift of that self-discipline where we can actually find those times and intentionally set aside for us right To nourish ourselves and to nourish our higher self and to connect with source and nature or whatever.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: It is right That you're sort of distracting from And what Richard Rudd says in the Jean Keys, which I absolutely love, but he says inactivity is filled with magic.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: And it's like this idea right Where our kids are just like and I see mine like right on the devices and stuff and they're just not bored.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: We don't allow them to get bored.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: And it's like within that boredom is when, like we didn't have phones or anything when we were kids, right, i read books or we'd go outside and play.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And I feel like we're the last generation that was like you don't come in until, like, the sun's down, you know, but like we'd find things to do I don't know eat mud, play with sticks, like we're just like out there getting dirty.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, i love all that And I feel like it's I mean, i just said it's my gate So but like at the same time, for where I'm at in my life right now.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I'm also like on vacation.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I'm at my parents' house.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to like keep work going but also just enjoy, like the summer They this is where we summer vacationed as well Like we're on the beach and just being able to like, yeah, have that space and freedom to play.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: But also, weirdly enough, like I open Instagram because of the Zoom link right before this and like some random like posts that I don't even follow was like allow your kids to be bored, and that is such, that's such a in Leo.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: It's like the inner child, right, and it is that creativity and that playfulness and like that's what Leo season is all about.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: We'll also obviously have the Mercury and Leo, and I think that is just yeah, so beautiful for like me personally, but I think anyone obviously can take that right now and just like create that space to have like a fun time.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: That's all Leo is Yeah, and I think, like now in like modern times or like in our times, i guess like it's a lot harder for us to just like kick our kids outside and be like, have fun, like go distract yourself.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I think because, like now, so many of us like just don't feel safe in our communities and our environments, and so it's like even for me just being telling my kids, like go outside unless I can see them, i'm just like where are you, like what are you doing?
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Right, and it's it's.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: And so I think like there's an element of this generation more so being like, yeah, here's the tablet and stuff so I can see you, but you know, i don't know.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's where this comes into.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: It's like how can we then just be present with them and get creative and have those like Leo type fun things right And be creative and all those things, while we're if that's the issue right, if the issue is like not feeling safe with them outside, just creating space to do that with?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: them at home.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: That's so interesting during cancer season because with and with this new moon and cancer as well, like that is about safety, security, the home, and like I do think I mean obviously I didn't parent when I was a kid, but there was a lot more, yeah, ability to just like go, and now I'm a friend of my kids are younger.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, i'm sure I'll probably still feel similar when they're older, like, but like yeah, i need to like see them at all times And it freaks me out if I don't right And I'm always like, even like my mom's watching them right now.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, are they okay?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: No, it's when they're totally fine.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, that that space and freedom for children as well.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's technology, but also there's like a heightened level from the parents of like wanting to see them and kind of have a little bit of control, right Yeah?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Well, i also think, like this, moving into Aquarius, right, and I know, like I've watched your stories talking about creating this like more Aquarian, like community of women and mothers and, you know, systems where we can be feel more safe, and just like allowing your kids to go to someone's house, or like all eyes are on all the kids, because I don't know about you, like I don't even know my neighbors, like I know their names but I don't know them, i don't talk to them.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: You know, and that's partly because I'm busy, i work and I have the kids and I'm a single mom, and then I do this and you know it means so many days of like very full, but and that's completely on me, like I take responsibility for that, but I've never like knocked on the door and been like hey, nice to meet you, like how old are your kids?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Or you know, i've never done that right, and so I think it's creating these communities.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: We've moved away from that where I think, when we were younger, probably the reason why our parents felt safe to throw us outside is because they knew the neighbors too.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: They knew somebody somewhere had an eye on the kids, like all the kids were at someone's house or they all played together.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's just something we don't have in our society now.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely Yeah, and I don't know how or when that exactly shifted, but I really do hope that we'll be able to move back towards some of that with the Pluto and Aquarius energy.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that would be wonderful.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, so, so, mercury and Lego in that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Okay So, communicating that, and then, all right, the 17th is the big one.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I did I miss something.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: No, okay, new moon, and then is that's when the nose change, correct?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yes, oh my yeah, i had it like.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: yes, it's the same day, wild too, right Yeah.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: So I feel like that's a lot of big energy and I know I've talked about it before, but my North node is 29 degrees Aries access.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: So I've been like revving up for this and I know this is going to because I've just I've been feeling a lot of.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've just been feeling a lot of it in my business, right In taking that leadership role, which before felt very uncomfortable for me And when I did like lean more back to like well, you take the lead and I'll just follow your leader, or like what do you need?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Let me know when you need me to show up, as opposed to now I'm really feeling the call like like in me, like I need to show up in this space and also hold others within it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Right, like be curious and just have that like balance And I think again taking all those Libra qualities in there that we within the eye so that you can.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I don't even like the word lead, but it's like supporting your community as a whole and guiding them Maybe that's a better word like guiding them.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Guiding.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i love that.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Remind me what house it is for you The ninth.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: So for me I know it's like all the education and the travel like I love, like I have been blessed to travel a lot in my life and that's always expanded me.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because like the last nine years I've been in Dallas, like I have hardly traveled at all, which like makes me feel like really like confined, like I can't find my passport right now and like there's a part of me that's like Oh my.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: God I can't travel if I need to.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: But also I know that there's been a lesson in that right.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: There's a reason that I'm sort of where I'm at And I think it's maybe just to like step into this role and really fill myself in my authenticity so that when I do travel again it's in a more expansive way with my kids and stuff.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: So but yeah, yeah, I love that, but yeah, i mean with the.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: So the nodes moving into Aries and Libra, which is where they'll be for the next 18 months or so I don't have the exact date.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: They switch again, but it's about every 18 months.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: So that's where the Eclipse is will occur during Aries and Libra season for the next 18 months, and with the I mean that shift in and of itself.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: We can like break down a little bit more.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: But also with the new moon in cancer being on that same day, which is also a cardinal sign.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: It's this feeling that we kind of felt at the beginning of the year in Aries season, where it's like this, like the start of the start of the start, right, like it's like not just like new energy, it's like such new energy because cardinal is like the initiator, it's like the what starts, it's the one that comes up with the ideas, like fixed signs or what follow through on that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And with Cancer, aries, libra, it's all like that initiating energy, that new energy, and a new moon is new beginning.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: So I feel like there is it's just such a big shift and it's loose, but the new moon also opposes Pluto, just like not getting out of any of these transits at all.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So it's this transformation around that as well.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that would make it that like loosely cardinal brain cross, right, because it's 25 degrees and the rest are 29.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah the same.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Sorry now, my brain's like farting right now.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm like trying to see the chart in my head.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So did I say the Grand Cross earlier was in Cardinal.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I meant fixed right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: So it's like-.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Well, you said that, with Mars being at the end, of cancer would be a Grand Cross.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Right, right, okay.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: So let me pull up that chart again in a second, but with so it'll like where the nodes are and where Pluto is in general are going to be loosely squaring each other this whole year.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: The exactness changes And in fact at the end of July again, pluto will be like tightly squaring the North node, like the last 10 days of July or so.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, exactness, but yeah, with like the, so the North and South node will be moving into 29 degrees areas Libra, the and Pluto will be at 29, 28, like Capricorn.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: So it's like just, it'll be like loose.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: But that's sort of what I was saying.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, i know I've been like I know I've I don't know I've been feeling that just like that square.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: But I just think it's interesting that, like the collective is just having this big square as well, and I don't know it's really interesting with all that starter energy, especially on the new moon, i just feel like that's really powerful.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: And like we had the like double Aries, we had two Aries new moons during Aries season.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Right, it was like there's, all you know, two moons in one sign every year, and it happened to be an Aries this year as well, like it was, like all of this newness.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, being called to start and move, yeah, it's like huge.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: And like, and you know, in this it's around like it can be around family dynamics.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: It can be around this like balance between like achievement and flow, which, like again, like we're we're seeing, like on the flip side of that, we are still seeing so many people leave like their nine to five, so many people being like the amount of like people I've been doing readings for that are like in we're all in systems that are like in like deep and like hospital systems are deep in, like education systems are deep in these like systems that are like I need out Like there's just this real pull of like.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I just don't know what that looks like yet And I think we're going to see individually, a lot of people shifting from that I think there's also an interest, like a lot of people are also going back to the office.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like, too True, right.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So I think it's this weird, like in between phase where it's we're still like running off of this.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I guess more accessibility to remote working and also moving back into the office space, i don't know Yeah.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cause I don't even like personally have that many people in my life that like do that, I know right.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: What they do.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: It's more like like my, like husband's like manual labor, like they never left the office cause like yeah, so there's like that, but like yeah again, like my sister.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I was just around a bunch of my sister's friends who, like a lot of them, are like being asked to come back to the office and a lot of them are applying for remote work And if they don't get it, they're like I'm going to leave my job.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i know I heard, though a lot of people are like I'm not going back into an office, like, yeah, i'll find something else, yeah, Yeah, which is going to like we'll see if people follow through on that because that would be like a huge shift in the workforce as well.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, that's all like again like bigger systems and structures, just like kind of shifting and people being like kind of more aware of like.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: also just like how like exhausting it is to go into a nine to five and that you know, maybe they like their job enough, but it's not that they want to like have that commute or have that that type of structure.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's a balance.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like a hybrid system might be more supportive, right Cause it's like I understand the, the energy of being in an office.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Like when I worked in an office, it was nice to have that like social aspect, as opposed to like when I worked at home and I was like just at home and I would get distracted by everything in the house.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And I think that also comes back to just like having a different way.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Also, that was me working for somebody else in a corporate setting, like all those things.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different when you're like working for yourself and having more like fluidity and like you know your own routines.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I guess we'll see what happens because, like I can sort of see both sides of it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, totally Yeah.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Like the old company I works for, they like literally bought a whole building so that they could have like it was very millennial-y, like, like there was like one whole floor that was for happy hour, one whole floor that was like a gym, and they really wanted it to be like this, really like there was like little coffee shops everywhere, like they really wanted it to be this social thing.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: So I and I do get that, because there's more like camaraderie.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: But I think it's also like depending I mean depending on where you're at in your life, right, like what do you have kids to take care of Or are you just like kind of fresh out of college and trying to like figure out life and things like that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: But on top of that, i think it's moving into how do I explain this?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Like back to what we talked about in the beginning, this more kind of like we talked about in terms of like kids and neighbors, but like this more like everyone has their role, and like this more community aspect, where maybe some people in the community do go into the office, maybe some people in the community are gardening, maybe some people in the community are, you know, taking care of the kids and like we don't have to, like we do right now, but like, especially like you as a single mom, i feel this a lot like.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like we have to do it all And that, i feel like, is where, like, some of the shift needs to be.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Like, if you're the person going into the office, you can't also be the person like getting all the food and taking care of all the kids and like all of the things.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: There's kind of this like finding your role as well, and that's going to be some of that shift too.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Where, in with this like age of Aquarius, i feel like this part of the whole kind of idea.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe have like daycare within the office.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That's just what I was seeing right For, like those moms that just like having someone that can be there to support them in that way too.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there are some offices that have that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, so many ways to change, yeah, but yeah, I mean again like it's this shift is it's new?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: It's trying to figure out what that looks like And I don't think really anyone knows what it is.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: But being we talked a lot about the new and being Canceran, but I mean Cardinal, but it's Canceran.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: So it is still about our feelings, our emotions, our need to feel safe and secure, like all of these types of things.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Like what does it mean to feel at home?
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: And for some people that's traveling, and for some people that's a really stable like home that you know they feel safe and secure with and everything in between.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: But that feeling of what does it really feel to for you to feel at home and safe and secure?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also for that full moon, or, sorry, the new moon.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: it's training Neptune.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: So I mean I think that's really beautiful and part of it it's like connecting with your intuition on that, finding inspiration, like to support this new way of being.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Neptune is in gate 36, which is that collective theme of just like experiencing things for the collective, like always wanting to have those experiences.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of like goes along with what we talked about right, about like the collective theme of.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like so much of the energy right now is this like every time, there's a kind of more individual type energy.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: It's like supporting the collective, like this.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: It's still this like part of the whole, like you doing what's right for you in your home is what's right for the collective.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, i was listening to Pam Gregory talk about the full or sorry, i've seen the full moon, the new moon, but like she was saying and I just love this, it's like, um, like asking yourself where you're coming from, right, fear or love, and I think like within all of this right, It's asking that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And I even noticed that Pluto layer.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, especially with that.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, i think that's what she was talking about the square with Pluto on the nodes, but that's still.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: It's still happening, like during the new moon, right?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: So I think, like, just with a lot of this energy, that's been happening, it's, it's.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: It's asking ourselves those questions, right, is this coming from a space of fear or not?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: And just really entering it?
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: And again, like with that gate of commitment, right, how are we entering into things?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Are we entering because of obligation or fear based, because you're not going to be able to fully commit and, like, follow through on something that's coming from that space?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, so the nodes are still in gate three, which is that chaos?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, cause that's what my Right?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: But then the south node is in gate 50, right, which is all about responsibility, it's about being responsible for it's like the, the channel there, that's like sort of like the mother archetype, right, but then it's also filling your cup so that you can take responsibility and nurture others.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: That labor balance.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah Which can be hard to do and taking responsibility.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: A lot of people avoid that.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: So, Okay.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: And then we have the 22nd.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Am I skipping over anything?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, 22nd, the sun moves into Leo in gate 56.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: So this gate of stimulation that we were talking about distracting or, you know, leaning into the more self-discipline so that you can have, you can find those magical, still quiet moments and find yourself within that.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: So what can we expect with the sun and Leo?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I love the sun and Leo, But yeah, I mean and in the in the Northern Hemisphere, right like it's summer, right, it's like the height of summer, it is at best.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Leo is the inner child.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: It's playful, it's creative.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of what we talked about with Mercury entering Leo as well, and it's also a time that we can really like shine as an individual, like, really like the sun is rules Leo.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Right, it's very like happy there.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: It's very natural there.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: That's just a good point.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, i think it's just really a time to like tap into your inner child.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: But on the flip side of that like, if that needs support and if that needs healing, it's a time to like allow for that, allow for that space, allow for that time to just like be, whether it's like painting or like even just like if you can like be around children, like that can be a really good like energy to have around you during Leo season.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think about.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I think we were talking about gate 33, something was moving through gate 33 last time And I have that in my moon, right, and it's that the gate 33 is one of the gate of aloneness, and so I always think about that.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Now that you said, like because Leo is so like big and generous and all these things, like it is important to come back to yourself, and so like every time like I feel that like shadow coming up or whatever, i'm like no, this is needed, like this is part of, like literally part of Leo.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: You have to come back.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and it's why, like that Leo energy, there is really this, there's this bigness to it that is very generous, but also it's like they want to feel seen and loved in return as well.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And with that like, it can be like a romantic time as well.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: It can be, you know, i keep saying playful, but like in romance, it can be like a playful energy.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: It's a fire sign, it's very passionate And it's still it's the lion right.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: It's that King Queen energy, and so it's a time so you can also like kind of tamper yourself and just like treat yourself or treat those you love, like with bigness and like lots of, lots of love.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also on the same day, venus goes retrograde and Leo, and it's going to be in that gate 29.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And I was listening to that astrology podcast, right, and they were talking about Venus in retrograde and they were like, maybe don't make, because it, you know, it is about aesthetics and all this stuff like that.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: So they were talking about like, if they recommended people like change their hair or change their style or whatever, but they were like experiment with it, but maybe don't like commit to it, right.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, as you hear these key words, that it's actually in gate 29.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: So it is important not to commit to something until you actually fully know it's like a full body, like hell, yes, and that's a little example of like aesthetics, of like your hair or whatever, but like.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: But even in the big things, right, and in my understanding, like retrogrades aren't necessarily a time to commit anyway.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: It's a time to like, sort of like, maybe, like they said, like have that experimentation and then move into it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: And you know, leo is just big and shiny and like all the things that we talked about, right, and Venus being, i think it's a beautiful placement, but what can we expect with it in retrograde and Leo?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, as you know, like every kind of goes retrograde with Venus specifically, it retrogrades like only once every 18 months And so it's not and it's obviously not always in Leo, and I think you know my side a little bit.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I like to like look back at like the last time it was.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: So I'll talk a little bit about what that means in Leo.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: But also, the last time it was retrograde in Leo was in 2015.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: And so that can be a time period like that summer was the last time it was retrograde in Leo, like around I don't know the exact date So like July, august timeframe, so that can be a time period to just reflect back on and be like, okay, how does that apply to my life today?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, with it, with it being in Leo and Venus being like about aesthetics, there can be some of that like vagueness and like with which is totally okay, right, like I have this placement, it's fine and fun and beautiful, but like, yeah, not committing to.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I actually got a ton of questions.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Should I not cut my hair?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's one of like the very nameable right now And like, yeah, like maybe, maybe don't, or maybe you'll regret it, and that's fine too, Like you can play with it, but with it being retrograde.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: It is a reevaluation period, it is a time of reflection, and Venus is not only about the aesthetic beauty, but it's about that inner beauty, like how do I feel worthy?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: What's that self worth, self values like, self love, that kind of energy, and so we can really look back and reflect on, like what do I really value?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: What do what like really does make me feel worthy?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: And if that's a fresh haircut that makes me feel good, right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: And if it's taking time to yourself or playing with your children or working or whatever that means to you, it's really like putting that self first.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: And because Leo is, you know, high road, low road, whatever.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: There is this ego with Leo, right, it can be putting yourself first, like that's okay and allowing that, but as long as it's really in line with your values and allowing that space to like, reflect on, like what is this truly my value?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: And you said you have Venus and Leo.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, venus gate 29.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, so like exactly there.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Did you notice any patterns for?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: so I have.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: 2015 and 2007 were like the last two cycles of Venus and Leo.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So 2007 I was in high school I don't know I forget what was happening, messing around, yeah, yeah, but yeah, i mean 2015.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: It's, it's interesting.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: There's like a lot of full circle moments for me right now with literally like every transit.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: It's like whatever I look back to.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: But 2015 was, yeah, so many things.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: It's my but.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I had moved back from like I was teaching abroad and I had moved back and I just moved in with my now husband and father, my children.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: We just moved in together, which is funny because we're actually living across the country from each other right now.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: He will be coming here like in a couple of weeks, so it's like kind of like a weird like it's just funny there, yeah, but like it's just that he's doing construction in our house where before it was like we were moving in together, starting our lives together, like it was like that.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: 2015.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like weirdly is like when my life started, i don't know, it was like I yeah, i moved.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: It was the first time I had like my own apartment.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Like I started my master's degree.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I like all these things that I like started that now are interwoven in different ways, but like I'm definitely trying to make sense of with like a lot of layers in my chart.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting I have.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: So my ascendant is 11 or no?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my Senate is 11 degrees, leo, i think.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Actually I can't remember right now It's something around there.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be like crossing over my send in.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think is it 12 to 24 degrees?
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I looked it up the other day, i can't remember 12 to 28.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So my I don't know, my son is somewhere in there because I remember thinking it was going to cross over my Senate and back and over.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe I'm at 12 degrees or 13, something like that, but anyway, but I was like looking back to 2015, and that was the summer I got pregnant with my son, which is a big one, and then 2007 was my daughter's father was deployed And I think we got married the following June.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: But I think that was like the start of us deciding that it was going to go in that direction, because he was in the military and obviously I wasn't.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: So it was like one of those things where it's like we either get married and can travel together or not.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting, like over that ascendant line, right, cause it's all about like myself expression And I just feel like it's.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I know, i'm just like curious, i'm like what's going to happen this summer?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Cause it's just that's big energy right Over the ascendant.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i find ascendant transit being like very impactful, very burial for sure.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i think like just that gait of commitment as well, like speaking to both of our stories a little bit like an I.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It's such a big theme for me.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I have four planets like my son Venus, jupiter and Mercury all in gate 29,.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: All cars are all in gate 29.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: It's a big thing for me And I think, like I committed to a lot of things then that I didn't, i shouldn't have, and now I'm much more clear, partially, cause I'm like obviously much more in tune with like so much of myself, but like I'm much more clear on what I can and can't commit to.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: But I'm also almost on the other end of it, like where I'm like under committing right, like where I'm like, nope, don't want to do that, don't want to do that, don't want to do that.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I just want to like be in this, like presence, and partially like it's being with my children right now.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: But that's where you're committing.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, like I think about like, for example, i'm like oh, i started my master's degree, i finished my master's degree.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I don't use my master's degree right now, like technically, but at the same time I'm like, actually, i obviously must integrate that in so many different ways that I'm like not even aware of, because I still think that everything that we've done in our lives is still like part of us, right, It's?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: still like the reason for that, yeah, when I think the experience of it too right, like the very first time I went to college.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I went, i went to college in Spain and I didn't graduate from that.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I actually got kicked out because I just like partied too much, but like so in hindsight like I gained nothing from that but I didn't right, like it was.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: It was an experience Like I was 18 in the foreign country.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I was like there was so much life experience that was learned within that.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, exactly, you said like, even if you don't like using your master's, like, you're still using the tools or the lessons that you learned within that time frame, right?
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: So I think it's all.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know It's all.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: That's why I find it really hard personally sometimes to regret things, because I'm like it is all, like played a purpose, right, even in the things that I wake up and I'm like, oh my gosh, i can't believe that.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Like, i feel like embarrassment for it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: So do I regret them?
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, i've just I've always had a hard time regretting.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i don't, yeah, and I don't know that I, yeah, i agree, like I don't know that I ever regret anything, but it's like, oh, like I with the commitment piece and like really kind of putting that like 29th, like Jean Key and that gate, it's like I see so many times where I didn't need to continue that commitment right.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Do you have, because I don't have it in front of me.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Do you have gate 30?
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, do I?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: So you have all of that in Gate 29.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: yeah, i'm.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I am Wait, no, what am I talking about?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i have Gate 30.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Cause I have been so next week in the Holistic Community Design Academy, on Monday I'm coming, we're doing the gene keys, the activation sequence, the genius sequence, And so for me, my unconscious sun and earth is 3029.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And so I've been like uh-huh, that's my conscious sun and earth.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, there we go.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: We're opposite.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to look at our target.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I, yeah, right, but like, as I was going and this is part of like why I love teaching all this stuff too, and I'm sure you experienced it too Cause it's like sometimes even just like going back to the basics of those things, like you know, it's like it takes me back into it And I'm able to like then I'm like, ooh, let me re-listen to my like gene keys and re-listen to my gates and stuff like that, and so it's just like I feel like especially just, of course, timing is always perfect, right, but like being here and those gates are so much about like committing but also being really present, right, because Gate 30 is about like I find myself like Gate 30 gets the best of me so much, so often, right, cause it's like it's like those desires that just that explode when the expectation is not met, right, and it's like, can you actually just have the experience instead of holding onto the expectation?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: right, and I think like desire has different layers to it And and I don't know, and I think of desire like I feel it in my body more so than anything else, and I feel like it's more the shadow side of it, but it doesn't have to be right, it can be a driving force, and Richard Rudd talks about that desire and that Gate 30 and it's, and he's like, give into your desires right, but not like.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Not like an alcoholic giving into the drink right, like that's not.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: It's more like sitting with the feeling of desire in your body, allowing it and being like, okay, like, so what if I gave into this thing?
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Or maybe like giving into it in a little way or I don't know, like especially for me and you have a defined solar plexus too, right.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, that's what I'm looking for.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: it's Gate 30.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: So then it's like waiting.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: When you feel that desire, right, be like, okay, i accept this, i allow this, i'm not going to shame myself for like wanting this thing.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: And I think for me, like I have a Torah son, right.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: So it's like.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: It's always like the material things that I'm like, ooh, i have to have that thing, or like a one have that thing.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: But I'm like do I really need it?
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: That's what Richard Rudd says about.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Well, he talks about it with Gate 23 simplicity, right, but I think it can be applied to anything.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: It's like is this thing actually going to serve me?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Like, am I going to use it?
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Does it actually like be up?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: And that's where that desire is like in the moment, of course, everything is like, yes, i have to have this thing, right.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing with Gate 30.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: It's like this need and like drive for it now, but just like having that moment.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: And then, because 29 is a programming partner, so it's the opposite.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: So then, coming into Gate 29 and be like, okay, let me feel through this before I decide to commit to something, because then when you commit to it and you and you don't actually, and the desire is driving it as opposed to the actual like I don't know aligned need, i guess.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the right terminology there is, but I think that's like the beauty of these two gates.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: So No, i mean that obviously it's my consciousness on earth and like so much of it too, i've like kind of like been like, oh, part of my I'm sad rising and like Jupiter is sad rule.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Jupiter's also in Gate 29 for me And with that 30, like I feel like I just have so much I previously learned so spontaneously, and it just was like like life's a journey, not a destination, this whole, like that kind of thing, and I was like I would just say yes to literally any adventure, like I'll move to this country, i'll move to that country, i'll travel here like sure, sure, sure.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And like not realizing, like like not actually riding that emotional wave, not actually understanding what was like correct for me.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: What line quality is your six too right?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, six.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: So it's in that six line.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: So I mean, even though, like I mean, i think everything is an experience right And we have to like go through the journey to really come to like the wisdom of it, especially with that six line, you were operating as a third line So of course you were saying yes to everything, right, like you were just in that experimentation, like that chaotic, like I have to do everything and learn everything.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: So now that you're more in that six line, right, you can sort of like reflect and be like oh well, i did all of these things and now I can discern better like what to actually put my time and energy to.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: So I think it all has a place to it right.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: And for me that 29 is in the third line.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I'm a six three And so it's all, it's just always gonna be chaos.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I was like determining and like discerning me, like do I actually need this?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Like let's calm down.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: But, like also having compassion right And just knowing like it's for a reason like we're.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: that's just part of design, i think when we resist it so often, obviously that's when it becomes a thing as opposed to just and I think that's what Richard's, Richard Rudd's like logic behind, just like giving into the desire, right, It's just accepting it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Accept it, embrace it as part of who you are and it is what it is.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And then what do we have next?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: So that was Venus.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Venus retrograde Yeah yeah, venus retrograde Have Kairon goes retrograde in Aries.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, i don't know if you wanna talk about that, yeah, we can.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Like I'm really my eyes because it's another one in my chart that I'm just like back off.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: It's just like it's very close to my IC And every time Kairon, it's gonna hit my IC again.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: And all over the past couple of years, every time it's hit my IC like it's like I'm gonna cry, like it's just like that's what's like been really hitting home for me personally.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: But so Kairon, just like everything stations retrograde And Kairon has just been freaking, chilling in like it's like 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 degrees Aries for what feels like eternity, and so it's going to continue hitting like the same parts of our chart that it's already been hitting.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: The biggest difference right Is that when it's retrograde, it is much more of like a reflection period around those wounds And so it will move back through wounding that's happened over like the last six months or so, like it'll move backwards over some of that.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: But hopefully the ideal version of that is that you find clarity around whatever was like wounded there, and I do think collectively with Kairon being in Aries for many years, right now it's still around this wound of the self And that's gonna we're gonna have to be like right before Kairon station retrograde, the North Node moves into Aries, so we're like diving in head first, like focused on the self, and so it's kind of coming back to the self right, like it's still integrating that lever, integrating that other, but like really, what, what do you need to heal?
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: And really kind of like rise from the ashes and like be of service through that wounding.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: And that being over your IC, that's like the place of family, right?
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: So how is that?
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: if you care to share, how is that coming up for you specifically?
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the first like two times.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Well, i'm like having like a little some aha moments right now, but like the first two times it hit, one was like the last time I was on my parents and I found out my grandmother was sick, and then the second time it hit she died.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: And then literally everything associated with that my grandmother and I have like really intense, like sinistry as well, and I mean I'm never like ready for anyone to die, but I definitely was not Like there's just like a lot of layers there.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: So there's like and like my maternal lineage in general it's my mom's mom.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: There's just like a lot of, i guess, dynamics there.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: My natal Saturns can drug my natal moon And I just have like that's just like a lot of what I'm working through now as a mom as well.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: So there's that.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: But then like the flip side of that is also like the material home And we during this time period, we also every time basically Chiron has hit my IC, like my grandmother, the one that passed, she is also the one that helps me like pack up and sell our first home and move when my first born was two months old, and like we bought our new home And currently the reason I'm now at my mom's and dad's house is my husband's like doing construction on our home And I felt very unstable there And I didn't like that because it's like our walls are being torn out and there's like mold and like stuff like that And it's like just this weird physical manifestation of the material home as well And like there's obviously so much more to it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: But those are like really prime examples of like it hitting that.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: So you said your moon is there.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: So my moon is conjunct.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: my needle, saturn, it's an Aquarius, which is also where Pluto is and where Pluto will be Like I have zero degree Aquarius moon, so all it just feels very like the moon isn't always the mother, but I mean it is, but like that it just my mom's.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: my relationship with my mom is very relevant to like my Saturn return, which was over the last few years as well, with Saturn and Aquarius, and it's just all being like weirdly triggered out once, while I'm simultaneously become a mom And like my grandmother was someone who like really helped raise me in a lot of ways, and there's just yeah lots of-.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Did you have placements in your fourth house?
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you see, just cause I know people see it differently.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: but like, do you see the fourth house being like the mom and the 10th house being the father, or is it individual in like each person's chart?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I would say like yes and no, it is individual in different people's charts, like and I would also say the same about like the moon and Saturn too.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Like you know, i can see a couple of ways And you can.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: When you're looking at someone's chart, there starts to be patterns and all of a sudden it might be like more okay, maternal lineage, whereas like like, for example, i just did a reading for someone who I can't remember everything right now off her chart, but like it was, just there was so much with her maternal lineage, so much in her fourth house, like that was just so clear for her to unpack she had just had like a hysterectomy, like she had like cancer there.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: It was just like these weird like womb, mother, ancestral, like.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: So fourth house, like yes, it's the mom, but like I really see it as like that ancestral lineage piece.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: And that's also where, like with my IC too, like I was named after my grandmother's mother who died when she was nine, and like just so many like layers there, there's just like this real like lineage piece that I really see typically going through like the maternal lineage, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, i mean, that makes sense.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Especially too, i think like if you have like a mom that embodies more of the masculine right, then it would almost be like reversal and depending.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was my question.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: How do you like in your practice, like up until now, or like even currently, how do you track the transits Like, or like track things like this Cause, like I find myself like I try to do it more in reflection, right, but like I would love to, i guess, have more And I guess it's just more being intimate with my chart, because I think, like up until now, i've just really I've become very familiar with my chart and not necessarily layered on the other pieces, but like are you, do you have a good journaling practice around it, or you've just like looked at it so many times like now you know?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Both I go back and forth where, like when I first really got into it, i and I'm such like a, my brain just works in such patterns.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, like this, this and this, and I can just like, like when I first got into it, i just like pulled up every challenging part of my life or any big transition And I was like, oh, that's the astrology, so I like learned it by looking like that's really how I learned astrology was looking back at my old transits.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: And that's where I started and you know the whole like looking at friends and all that thing too.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: But then I got to a point where I think I needed to like really detach from a lot of it, because it was like that, that anticipation you're talking about.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: And then it's like I was just kind of like waiting for the ball to drop And it wasn't as.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I was like just chill, like you're fine, you know, and you know there there are obviously things that are challenging.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I do think like emotionally it's been like a really wild time, but also like I've been pregnant or postpartum for three years straight And so it's like you know, there's that that piece too.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: But in my honestly, since I've had children, that's also like I don't have time to do all the things I would love to be doing.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: But I've had to like kind of step away from like the anticipation of some of the transits.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: But I also can't like unknown certain things right.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Like I track the transits collectively and I know my chart and I'm like, oh yeah, that's how it's going to impact me.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: but I don't have any type of like really like daily or weekly practice.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: It's more like when I'm doing it for the collective and I'm like writing things down and checking all of that, like I'm always like, oh, where is that in my chart?
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: And every now and then, I'm like oh, and it's.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I also feel like certain things should be themselves when they're meant to, And like certain things, like I literally only just realized, like certain aspects of my chart, And I'm like no sorry the dog's barking.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I got it on my feet.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Now Her tail is going to be hidden in the table.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it's interesting because I have, like I'm trying to just like really layered on.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I think maybe I just need to go back and look more at like pivotal moments in my life, like, and I have done in certain points, like, i think, most of my relationship things have happened in Scorpio season, which is interesting.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I have, i mean, i have Pluto in Scorpio in my fourth house, which maybe makes sense for relationships, but I don't know, it's just interesting, like, and I want to do it like daily.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: But then there's also that part where I don't want to like get to the point where, like, i'm planning my life around the transits, right, so, like this is fun for me, i love doing this and like sort of like seeing I'm like anticipating that Pluto is going to square my nodes or it already has been, and so it's more like in that reflection piece.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: But like, even with like family stuff, like ancestral stuff, i think it's interesting because, as I've like been looking a little bit more into it, like there's just I don't know, it's just wild to me, and this is where I'm like you can't make this stuff up right, like where it's like my, my moon.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: My mom's North node is on my my moon.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: My North node is on my daughter's moon, like direct.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: And then I looked at my brother and my dad.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: My dad's node is on my brother's moon.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, like this is like and you know what I mean Like that's like deep stuff.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: So it's just like interesting.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, i just I want to like explore it all more and have more of like a bigger picture of like you know, sort of like what you were talking about with your grandmother and how that plays out, like with the transits and on your chart and stuff like that.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: So I think you just need to play, carve out maybe some more time to just like sit with it.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like certain ones are going to feel like more like relevant than others.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and more true to what you're moving through in the moment.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Right, because you know there's so many things we could look at.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, for me it's just, i really tried not to get too caught up in it while simultaneously being like, when I'm going through like, like again, like my moon is an Aquarius to jump sat and like I would say overall like I've joked about this.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: But when I found out I had emotional authority, i was like what the like, because I just feel so unemotional, so detached, when I but like I'm deeply emotional in a lot of ways and, you know, have different ways I ride and all that, but with Pluto, like it's just like that has been validating, being like, okay, this is not like a normal thing that go through every day, like it's going to be a period, it's going to be a cycle, it's going to move on, and like it's going to be an experience that I have to like move through, like simultaneously, like the nodes are going to move right over, like all the eclipses are going to be on my ICMC axis, and it's more like, okay, i don't need to necessarily do anything about that, i just need to be open to what I might need to let go of and what I might need to lean into in ways that I maybe didn't initially plan for.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and this is also the thing that I'm piecing together, and I'm because I'm always interested in emotions, right, like I'm an emotional authority.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I'm Leo Moon and I have feeling cognition, so it's all about the emotions for me And to me that's.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: It's so chaotic sometimes I mean it's better now, but it used to be, because I just had no understanding.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I noticed a sermon of like what was mine and what was someone else's, and I think, with that feeling cognition, i literally tap into it.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: But then you have people who have, you know, a courier, a moon or Capricorn moon, who don't necessarily feel in the same way, And then the concept of being emotional feels foreign.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: But yet you're still riding the wave, right, you're riding the moods of it, and I think people with the Capricorn moon, who have completely open solar plexus, are cut off, right?
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: They don't, they?
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: it's harder for them to understand that physical feeling of what emotions feel like, as opposed to, maybe, like someone with an Aquarius moon who has a soul, who has an emotional authority.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: You might not experience emotions in the same way that I do, but you understand and have compassion for the emotional wave and what that feels like, right?
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: So I think, like that's the way I've been sort of piecing together the way that your moon allows you to experience emotions if you're emotionally defined.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Totally Yeah, I love that.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I know that's something we've been talking about a lot about like the like, non-emotional moons, but like having these different, like open or defined solar plexus, yeah.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's just like my life's work too.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like I have to understand, like, how different people experience it.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Just they're never going to experience it the same way that I am.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Excuse the dog, i think the only the last one I had here was July 28th.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: We have Mercury moving into Virgo again in that gate 2029.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so Mercury enters Virgo as well, which, well, gate 29,.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: So more of that like interesting commitment and like with Mercury it is the mind, its communication, and with it being the mind, it's like being very mindful of what you're committing to, but also with Virgo being about our daily routines, our health, this type of thing.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: It's like truly like being really mindful of what you're committing to and what does your day to day look like and does it fit your needs for what you need to feel like healthy in your body?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will also say, like Mercury being all about communication, right, and I think like the sacral has a beautiful connection with the throat, right, and I think that in itself is communicating and that does hold, obviously, an archetype of Mercury and it holds a lot of that energy.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: So I would just say, too, like if you're a sacral, being like this really gives you an opportunity to like speak.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: That sacral All right.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Well, i think she's telling us we're done, they're just like it's not going to stop.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: But that's the vacation.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, i don't know.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you wanted to talk to that we didn't get to?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: I like hit on this briefly, but the end of July, like really starting July 23rd, is that really tight Pluto square the nodes And again I just think collectively it's going to continue to be chaotic, i hope in the best ways.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: It might feel challenging and like there's a lot of change, but I think it really is that start of the more shifting back to like community, shifting back to ways, not back to I don't want to say that it's forward to right, it's of living more sustainably.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: That is not so attached to these systems that we're stuck in right now.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, like all these transits, all these gates, like gate three right, chaos in the beginning, and just I think we have to go through all that discomfort, right, and Pluto's what, death, transformation or rebirth, right.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: So it's like we have to go through this in order to change.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: So it's like can we just like witness the discomfort and what it's actually showing us, instead of just like suppressing it or numbing it or we're escaping it right, And I think that's what all these transits Like, giving it a taste of all these different things.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: And then, yeah, just coming back to that question, like where, what, what?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: what energy am I coming from or am I approaching this from?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: And like what can I learn from this?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: That's always my question now, Like what is this showing me?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: right In my deep discomfort, like what is this showing me?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: How can I take a line to action?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: What do I need to learn?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: And sometimes it's so annoying, It's like I wish it just could be ignorantly in my bliss right.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: But it's just like not the path I chose in this life.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: But I think that's just like great, great questions, Like as we're moving through this, that if discomfort and challenge comes up, it's showing you something.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Exactly, yes, yeah, i love it So all right.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, and we'll talk to you next month for August.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much, of course.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: All the best you.