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Happy Hour #147: Running With Scissors (SATC S3, Ep. 11) · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Steffone
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  Speaker 1: Never Told You production by Her Radio.
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  Speaker 2: And we are back with another edition of Happy Hour
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  Speaker 2: where we watch Sex in the City and you get
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  Speaker 2: to hear our reactions. What's even better is that Annie
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  Speaker 2: has not seen many of these episodes, so I put
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  Speaker 2: her on the spot because I need to feel superior
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  Speaker 2: about some fictional things, and this is that moment.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I like that. This has been a year's long
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  Speaker 1: journey of you trying to get one up on.
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  Speaker 2: Me every day every day anyway, But yes, we are
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  Speaker 2: back and we are viewing Sex and the City. But yes,
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  Speaker 2: this is a Happy Hour as well. So if you
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  Speaker 2: are partaking, please partake responsibly. Whatever you are doing, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's just you know, getting away from the kids, do
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  Speaker 2: so responsible. Make sure the kids are okay. I would
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  Speaker 2: not listen with kids just FYI, because this is an
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  Speaker 2: adult show.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but it was on CW during.
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  Speaker 2: The daytime for a long time, so that was really weird.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, very edited, but still very heavily on the
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  Speaker 2: adult subjects. It wasn't hard to see the implications.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: We are not currently being sponsored by any of the
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  Speaker 2: things we were talking about as well, just put that
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  Speaker 2: out there. Things change, though. We would love to be
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  Speaker 2: sponsored by Sex in the City. They kind of did
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  Speaker 2: for a minute, kind of kind of yeah, anyway, any
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  Speaker 2: are you used to being on anything?
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  Speaker 1: Just just my good old light beer. I got my
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  Speaker 1: my vaccines. Oh this morning, so I'm waiting to see.
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  Speaker 1: That's brave what happens. It was the things that we
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  Speaker 1: had to do this week.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean not just the fact that, like
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  Speaker 2: an aftermath. That's why I've been holding off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why I went to go get them.
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  Speaker 1: Smith and I are about to travel together.
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  Speaker 2: To New York, New York, the city as some of
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  Speaker 2: the people would say.
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  Speaker 1: Some would say that maybe and again, if you have
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  Speaker 1: any recommendations of places we should go, let us know.
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  Speaker 1: But I was trying to get them before then. I
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  Speaker 1: had COVID three months ago. You're supposed to wait three months.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, I can't get But the person who gave
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  Speaker 1: me the vaccine, she did it so smoothly, like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel any pain or anything. But I'm waiting. I'm
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  Speaker 1: waiting for it to kick in. I am pretty tired.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's related or not, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty tired, but anyway, light.
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  Speaker 2: Beer for me, a light beer for you, and a COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Shot and flue shot.
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  Speaker 2: I got both and the flu shot I have stuck
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  Speaker 2: with my bubbly water. As as we said, we're kind
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  Speaker 2: of busy, so being sleepy, achy or any of the
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  Speaker 2: above is not an option for this week or next
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  Speaker 2: week or ever. Again, I'm just kidding, but yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: could y'all in. As you know, we will be doing
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  Speaker 2: an audience participation of this segment. Specifically, I have picked
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  Speaker 2: out an episode. It will be done in the new year.
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  Speaker 2: We are going to go ahead and select someone by
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  Speaker 2: the end of this year, twenty twenty four. So if
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  Speaker 2: you would like to participate, let us know, send us
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  Speaker 2: an email, send us a dm. Anie will tell you
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  Speaker 2: how to do that at the end of this because
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  Speaker 2: it's a very long spiel and I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: add it to the beginning. But yeah, so you just
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  Speaker 2: all you need is a laptop, an internet connection, and
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  Speaker 2: a microphone or headsets rather, yes, and an email.
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  Speaker 1: Although a microphone would be nice, but you don't need it.
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  Speaker 2: You don't need it, like you know, you know, you're fine.
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  Speaker 1: And if you have sent your name in. We are
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  Speaker 1: taking them. I promise. I am very behind answering listenermail,
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  Speaker 1: but I all the names are being accounted for. I
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  Speaker 1: believe you. Thank you, Samantha. I believe you.
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  Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope it's true. But yeah, So
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  Speaker 2: with that, we're going to jump in. We are on
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  Speaker 2: episode eleven of season three, Am I right? Yes? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: So Annie, can you give us a rundown of what
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  Speaker 2: has happened in season three thus far?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've said it for I'll say it again. I
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  Speaker 1: think season three has been one of a lot of changes,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of questions, a lot of forks in the road.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got Samantha doing her own thing generally. We've
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  Speaker 1: got Miranda, who was with Steve. Seemed like she had
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  Speaker 1: settled in with him and then kind of felt like
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  Speaker 1: he was too immature and he, after a long process,
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  Speaker 1: has moved out and now she's starting to date again.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of had an awkward like phone sex guy uh
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  Speaker 1: in the last episode, but she's, you know, branching out.
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  Speaker 1: We've got Charlotte who's been on the hunt for a
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  Speaker 1: husband and she has found one in Trey. It didn't
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  Speaker 1: quite go how she wanted in terms of the proposal,
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  Speaker 1: and then she had to deal with the mom, his
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  Speaker 1: mom being really controlling and wanting a prenup and all
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  Speaker 1: of this, and she asked for more than what was
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  Speaker 1: offered originally and she got it, so she feels like
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  Speaker 1: she's getting what she's worth. And then you've got Carrie
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  Speaker 1: who has found Aiden and it is a pretty stable,
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  Speaker 1: from what I've seen, healthy relationship after her relationship with
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  Speaker 1: Big that was very dramatic and uneven, but she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: seem to know how to deal with a relationship that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have drama in it. So she has fallen back
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  Speaker 1: in with Big and is cheating on Aiden with him,
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  Speaker 1: and he has said he was going to leave his wife.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember actually did, but anyway, they're sleeping together.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, she did not tell Aiden about that, and
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  Speaker 1: that's about where we are.
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  Speaker 2: You're not wrong. All of that was pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: All that was pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Now, as per usual, let me tell you the episode
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  Speaker 2: title and you let me know what you think is coming.
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  Speaker 2: It is Running with Scissors. I remember this title really
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  Speaker 2: during that time because at that point we had that
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  Speaker 2: book Running with Scissors by Augustin Burrows. I remember I'd
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  Speaker 2: read it around that time. No, really, yeah, anyway, it
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  Speaker 2: was very traumatic that book. But anyway, what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think this is about?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? My goodness, did you all? No? But because I've
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  Speaker 1: told there's a Taylor Swift song of course listen Affairs,
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  Speaker 1: But there's another Taylor Swift called a song called Augustine.
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  Speaker 1: Augustine's also about cheating. It's not the same name. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't know how to I actually don't know
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  Speaker 1: how to pronounce it because it's just august in the song.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a like more about it that I don't know. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: The answers, well, let me think, Okay, running with scissors
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  Speaker 1: is something you're not supposed to do. It's something your
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  Speaker 1: people tell you when you're a kid. You're not supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do it. So it's got to be something like
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  Speaker 1: I think Carrie's going to continue cheating and but people
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  Speaker 1: are going to start to get suspicious of her in
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  Speaker 1: this one. Like I feel like Aiden was already kind
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  Speaker 1: of a little suspicious, but I feel like it's really
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  Speaker 1: gonna amp up in this one. But she's going to
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  Speaker 1: keep going. Charlotte's planning this wedding, so something's gonna go
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  Speaker 1: a miss. I don't know. I feel like scissors are
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  Speaker 1: literally going to be involved in some sense, perhaps sexually
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  Speaker 1: involved in some sense. But I don't think so. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like this back and forth. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta think about it. I mean, I've seen these titles
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  Speaker 1: go all kinds of ways.
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  Speaker 2: It's true, it's true. They can be misleading. Sometimes they're
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  Speaker 2: really on point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like all of them are. So it's
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  Speaker 1: flirting with something dangerous that you shouldn't do, are Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you want to add anything else to that.
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  Speaker 1: They'll go to brunch. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't want you to miss out adding that one,
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  Speaker 2: Just making you didn't miss out on that part.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, are you ready to get into it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Our affair like our hotels had gone from elegant with
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  Speaker 3: crystal to ceed with plastic cups.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. This Taylor Swift song is so on point.
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  Speaker 1: That's what she says in the song. We used to
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  Speaker 1: meet in the fancy hotels, and now we meet the
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  Speaker 1: parking lot.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm just so confused. I mean, does he only
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  Speaker 3: want me now because he can't have me?
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  Speaker 2: See she's back in this existential crisis because of her mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: Like you should.
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  Speaker 3: See but everyone to get out of this without anyone
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  Speaker 3: getting hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's realistic.
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  Speaker 2: Why not how you've.
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  Speaker 3: Heard those stories about how about affairs where people realize
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  Speaker 3: how great their other relationship is and and end it
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  Speaker 3: without anyone being the wise.
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  Speaker 2: This is where I really think she's the worst lead character,
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  Speaker 2: Like this moment here pretending like she can do this
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  Speaker 2: and like she's not the problem and this is not
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  Speaker 2: going to cause all the heartache.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Samantha was judging the crowd at a new hotspot
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  Speaker 3: on the Lower West Side.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have gone with that club and they
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  Speaker 2: went to a club at least to a bar. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I pressured you too hard into the but to be
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  Speaker 2: if you had to guess anything, because you still have
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  Speaker 2: it's true a good twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. Things can change.
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  Speaker 3: Short the male Samantha, Hi, I'm Tom Raimi.
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  Speaker 1: I know who you are.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I know who you are.
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  Speaker 3: It's about time we met.
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  Speaker 1: We know the same people we should go to.
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  Speaker 2: When you know, like the other person is like it
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  Speaker 2: likes to have sex with everyone. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I know anything like I've had friends who like dated
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  Speaker 2: many of people, but that's not the same thing to
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  Speaker 2: the level.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had like a friend that was known for
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  Speaker 1: being down down to have like a one night stands. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't I wouldn't say that was what she
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  Speaker 1: was known. Yeah. I don't think like if somebody random
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  Speaker 1: came at a party, they'd be.
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  Speaker 2: Like, that's so yeah, because I think like within our
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  Speaker 2: own friends group, we might like have a conversation about this,
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  Speaker 2: but like it's not well known.
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  Speaker 1: I got hard in that club just from looking at you,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you and I both know what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. We get up in that.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: Swing by that swing looks complicated too.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, how does this work? I thought, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'm just too prudish in this level, Like but
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  Speaker 2: what how what? That looks really uncomfortable. It's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like people talking about sex on the beach or sex
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  Speaker 2: in the shower. The actual like the reality is like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm either first of all, I hate saying we know
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  Speaker 2: this skywalker, yes I know, and then then in the
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  Speaker 2: in the shower everything gets cold very quickly like no,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, Like I need to be.
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  Speaker 1: Natural loop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also the fact that people prefer different temperatures. I
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  Speaker 2: need mine scalding hot, especially right now while it's cold. Miranda,
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  Speaker 2: you take modern bride, Samantha, New York bride, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: take what annoying bride or carriage? Page two eleven paint posted,
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  Speaker 2: tell me what you think you know? Okay, people out
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  Speaker 2: there who have recently planned weddings, do y'all still look
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  Speaker 2: at Bridle magazines? Because that was a like marking everything
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  Speaker 2: like Charlotte's doing in here? Do we still do this?
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  Speaker 2: Not that I'm getting married, but is that still a thing?
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  Speaker 2: Or do we just internet like the internet things? No
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  Speaker 2: hard copy thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he won't sleep with me unless I have a test, Samantha, But.
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  Speaker 3: Looking at wedding gowns, could you please not talk about
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: AIDS right now? You've never had an HIV test?
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  Speaker 2: No? Have you too? I love that they normalize this
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  Speaker 2: during this time, like really being like, of course we did,
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  Speaker 2: come on, neverbody should like we might not talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: but why not? It's accessible and I feel like it's God,
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  Speaker 2: we're in a cycle, but it's coming back up as
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: like normalizing again because it's somehow being stigmatized again. Yeah,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: not that our listeners need to know, but getting checked
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  Speaker 2: for an STD is just smart.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I have a friend, good friend who won a
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  Speaker 1: speech essay and speech contest talking about her experience getting
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  Speaker 1: tested and then why it was so important. And I
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  Speaker 1: love that. If you're listening, that's amazing, amazing, it's so important.
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  Speaker 2: Don't be a Charlotte, be Miranda. I'll get several toughs.
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  Speaker 1: You want pasta, you go to Little Italy.
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  Speaker 2: You want wedding, you go wang.
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  Speaker 3: You want the perfect wedding dress, fast, go to Anthony
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  Speaker 3: Marantino stylist.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, Anthony Marantino is now being introduced. Then we will
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: know him forever.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Now there's a place in Atlanta that would let you
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: go try on wedding dresses even if you weren't getting married.
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  Speaker 1: And I almost did it once. I just want to
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  Speaker 1: try them all.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So again I would just be sleepy and panicky.
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  Speaker 1: This was back when I was more confident in my
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  Speaker 1: body and you wanted to see. Yeah, I was pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure I was never going to get married, so I
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  Speaker 1: was like, why not try it all?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I did have my perfect wedding dress. When I was young.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, really, like you picked one out?
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  Speaker 1: No, I just had an idea of it. Okay, it
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  Speaker 1: was just like a comfortable it was short, it was
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  Speaker 1: like knee length. I didn't want the whole thing. Mm hmmm,
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  Speaker 1: it's actually yellow, a yellow nineties.
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  Speaker 2: I've always said I would do like an empire waste
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  Speaker 2: because they all looked better on me. And then I
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  Speaker 2: still really liking like the pride prejudice levels, like let
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  Speaker 2: me get a cap and everything.
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  Speaker 1: I would never.
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  Speaker 2: Eat me.
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  Speaker 3: Three days later, Miranda had finally gotten her fill of
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  Speaker 3: the sandwich.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's it. You're not allowed to harass women like that.
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  Speaker 2: Eat me.
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  Speaker 1: This was a horror movie. You would have walked this.
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  Speaker 1: She's lost her mind. It's not I never talked to him.
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  Speaker 1: She's like the sandwich is talking.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, then listen, that sandwich out front is saying sexually
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  Speaker 2: explicit things to women as they walk by. What he's saying,
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  Speaker 2: eat me? Yeah, he's a sandwich. No, he didn't say
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  Speaker 2: it in the sandwich way. He said it in the
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  Speaker 2: sexual harassing way.
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  Speaker 1: Lady, he's a sandwich. Well, I mean that's close, Drope.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you're so great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared, right, now.
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  Speaker 3: I feel faces and shiny white teeth. To stop thinking
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  Speaker 3: about the sandwich and start wondering about the man inside
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  Speaker 3: the bun.
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  Speaker 2: No, no about a sandwich.
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  Speaker 3: You're telling me you're turned on by a sandwich.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the fact.
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  Speaker 2: That I can't see him dangerous something. Your horror is her.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently they did not see a face enticing for some.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was doing business in the area and
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  Speaker 3: we kind of bumped into each other.
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  Speaker 2: Charlotte, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: I was just I just checked on my wedding dress
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  Speaker 3: in sead of Taylor and Charlotte. Better go.
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  Speaker 1: Throat clear the judgment clear.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's a whole different thing to not know
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  Speaker 2: and then follow up like meeting a CD hotel, a
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  Speaker 2: fource bigger than me, and then her coming over here
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  Speaker 2: and making all these bad excuses.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't know he's married.
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  Speaker 3: I know he's married.
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  Speaker 1: That makes you's the other woman. You're the other woman.
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  Speaker 3: I am not the other woman.
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  Speaker 2: I mean someone needed to have this conversation with her
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  Speaker 2: instead of just enabling and being supportive. I get to
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  Speaker 2: a certain extent, but there's need one good come to
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  Speaker 2: Geese this moment and then moving on I'm calling her Monday.
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  Speaker 2: I have to go.
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  Speaker 1: You know how to let yourself out?
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't help it one day?
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  Speaker 2: Is that the relationship you want? Where he says, I
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  Speaker 2: have to go, you have to let your you know
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  Speaker 2: how to let yourself out? You? And then she's also
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: going through his refrigerator?
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  Speaker 1: What did I really know? What are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Natasha is a woman who likes t.
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  Speaker 1: Roses as someone who's very ridiculous about why refrigerator would
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  Speaker 1: be like you eat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Natasha is a woman who comes home from the Hampton's early.
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  Speaker 2: Honey, are you here? I took the chimney home, sweetheart.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Pary girl andraw.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty bad.
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  Speaker 2: In my house.
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  Speaker 1: To you, oh oh god. I had always assumed the
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  Speaker 1: one who would be hurt.
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  Speaker 2: In all this it would be me, would be me
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  Speaker 2: selfish narcissist. To comment, the only person who'd be hurting
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  Speaker 2: all this would be me? Are you mail get out?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: If you can't tell. I have very heavy opinions about
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  Speaker 2: these episodes.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people do.
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  Speaker 2: I think you have the option and you can grow
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  Speaker 2: from these situations. But but to have the statement the
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  Speaker 2: only person that I thought would get hurt because of
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: course nobody else has feelings so much roller coaster, so
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: much angers, yeah when it comes to this episode, so
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: there's not like this type of scenario is kind of
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the reason I was hesitant in bringing a listener one
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: of y'all to add to this conversation because it's so
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: heavy handed, and not that it doesn't continue on obviously,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: but we are going to have a little past that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: But it's just like a heavy moment of like, yeah,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that was the line she pulled
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: until now that whole like, I didn't think anybody would
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: get hurt with me. I thought the only one who
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: would get hurt was me, y'or like that's such a narcissistic,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: selfish comment, Like no, you didn't. You're only thinking about
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: yourself period, Like that's the whole point and why people
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: are hurt and the fact that you're not even defending
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: your man when he like, yeah, brings him up like
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: she does at one point, but come on, it takes
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: a long time.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: To get there.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Let's see dangerous. Yes, you brought Taylor Swift because she
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: apparently really likes the show as well and this season
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: really impacted her.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know not.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: If I should give you points for that or the
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: dug points for that.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I think you get a pass.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a pass.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Fell on this way, I'll give you a pass, all right.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Did they have brunch?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: No?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: No, they did not any.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: He rolled the dice and incorrectly. Incorrectly.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so a lot to be said. We have
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: a new not Maine. But actually, like reoccurring guests, reoccurring
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Star Anthony is now a part of the picture. We're
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: getting closer to the wedding date. A lot of things
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: are happening now. We had ax swing break.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: We did literally, we did, not just figuratively.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: A lot of conversations about testing for HIV and AIDS,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: which I think is still important in this conversation. I
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: don't know. I guess me being privileged to not feel
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: like I'm used as a scapegoat for those types of illnesses.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't notice until recently about how it's coming back
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: up as taboo ostracizing people once again and scaring people.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe it has been that way for a while and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I just didn't notice, And I just assumed because that
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the rhetoric had kind of quietened since the initial panic
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: in the nineties and then all of this that it
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: was the stigma had gotten better or lessened, I guess,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and I don't think. I think we're back to where
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: we were, because I know I've seen the billboards, which
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: kind of shocked me, but also bring an awareness that
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: is still important to test with all the options.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: So but I did.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, I remember watching this specific episode with
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: all of that really like encouraged and felt like it
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: was such a big moment for this type of television,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: this type of show to just normalize that type of
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: conversation and also not centered around like queer people, which
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: oftentimes happens because of the stereotypes. So I really think
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: that was pretty big and like being able to elevate
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the importance keeping.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: It normalized and.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Destigmatizing doing so like no matter what social you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: status you have or economic status. So it was it
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: was a lot.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it. I liked how it was. So
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you know, with your group of friends, you're like, have
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: should I get tested? I've never been tested, and they're like, oh, yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I've been tested, said you haven't been tested? Like it
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: was just so right, nonchalant, just a conversation you have
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: with your friends, were like, oh no, you should, you
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: should go do that. It was really I appreciated it,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and I liked that it was very honest about Samantha's
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: sexual experience. But also, you know, you got Miranda's thinking
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: about a sandwich.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: We got thinking about the sandwich.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Just because she's off of the I mean rightfully so,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: but she's off of the like most sexual one. But they,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I mean they all do go out and have these
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: sexual sex sexcapades. So I liked that, you know, even
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: though she's sort of the more sexual one openly, they
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: were all still like, oh no, no, no, you should
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I got one, you should go get one. All good?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: All good? I think.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Do you have any predictions of what's to come?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Well, mm hmmm. I think she Carrie is going to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: try to like do a cold Turkey situation with Big.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I think she's gonna end up. I think it's gonna culminate.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be like Aiden and Big at
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the end. I don't think he's out of the picture yet,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: but I think she's gonna I think she's gonna try
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: to for this season. I know he's not a picture yet,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: but for this season. But I think she's gonna try
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to like cut him off. Something's gonna happen at Charlotte's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: wedding because it's got to be traumatic. I don't know
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: what it is. It might be good. Something's gonna happen
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: at her wedding. I don't know when Steve's going to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: come back into the picture for Miranda, but I know
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: he'll be back. And Samantha do her own Samantha thing.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Samantha doing her own Samantha thing. Yeah, sometimes the Samanthas do.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's true.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about me.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Well I like it. Well, I like it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. I'm not gonna remember any of this,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: but I'm at.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: The episode picked out for the listener already, I do so.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's coming again. So if you are interested
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: in participating, coming on Skype with us or no, we'll
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: be on reverse.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I won't wait.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, you don't get the joys of Skype, of the
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: two early two thousand of Skype. No, we gonna be
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: on riverside. You don't even have to match record for
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: anything because it is handled.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, our super producer Christina will walk you through it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: It's very easy. You don't even have to be a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: subscriber to Netflix or Max or wherever Sex and the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: City is streaming now Netflix, Yeah, it's on both, which
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: strange to me. Yes, So if you are interested, we
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: are trying to. We are going to pick the name
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: by the end of the year and we're going to
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: record the episode in the new year. So if you're interested,
• 27:26
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• 27:30
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• 27:32
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• 27:34
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• 27:36
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• 27:39
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• 27:40
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• 27:44
  Speaker 1: our executive producer Maya, and our contributor Joey. Thank you
• 27:47
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• 27:50
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• 28:00
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