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Sit & Chat: Becoming Rejection Proof · The Aligned Actor

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  SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to The Aligned Actor podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm Amy Schloerb, your friendly fellow actor and mindfulness and mindset coach.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is the podcast where I offer practical mindfulness tools and mindset shifts
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  SPEAKER_00: to help us all thrive in our full actor lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am doing an episode in a new area again because I'm calling this type of episode
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  SPEAKER_00: a chat and chill.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, that wasn't it.
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  SPEAKER_00: A sit and chat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Chat and chill is the name, incidentally, of a...
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  SPEAKER_00: Bar restaurant in the Bahamas where my husband and I had our honeymoon.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's why I'm thinking of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's not a chat and chill,
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  SPEAKER_00: although we are chatting and chilling because we can't do a walk and talk.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's way too hot in Los Angeles to be walking outside.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I decided to do this sort of impromptu episode and just do it sitting in
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  SPEAKER_00: a different space in my office because it's much more loose and casual,
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  SPEAKER_00: much like a walk and talk episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, so that's what you're getting.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm currently sitting in my dog's favorite chair in my office.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had to make him leave my office and he didn't like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But hopefully he found another soft surface to sit on in the house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, on this episode, I want to tell you a little story.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm part of my neighborhood WhatsApp group.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you have this in your neighborhood.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, it's this big group chat of a bunch of neighbors in the neighborhood,
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  SPEAKER_00: and we tend to warn each other about different things,
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  SPEAKER_00: like skunks,
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  SPEAKER_00: if they're in the area,
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  SPEAKER_00: or coyotes,
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  SPEAKER_00: if they're in the area,
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  SPEAKER_00: or door-to-door salespeople, because those are the most frightening of all.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the other week,
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  SPEAKER_00: there was apparently a group of relentless door-to-door salespeople,
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  SPEAKER_00: at least a few of them,
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  SPEAKER_00: And I actually saw them when I was out on walks with my dogs.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they would just not take no for an answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, people were talking about how, like, I had to just close the door.
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  SPEAKER_00: He just kept talking.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't know what else to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, yeah, I mean, that's what they're trained to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then one person in the group actually commented and said, Well,
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  SPEAKER_00: what he had been hearing was that a lot of people,
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  SPEAKER_00: a lot of like sales teams are using former missionaries
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  SPEAKER_00: who just like finished their big like mission trip and they employ them
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  SPEAKER_00: because they've realized that these people have become really,
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  SPEAKER_00: really good at not caring about rejection.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like they're literally rejection proof.
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  SPEAKER_00: They are kind of trained in their own training around the missionary stuff
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  SPEAKER_00: to not take no for an answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And also to not care if people say no.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if people don't want to hear what you have to say,
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  SPEAKER_00: you just either keep talking about it or you move on to the next place.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so they started realizing that like, oh,
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  SPEAKER_00: these people make really good salespeople,
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  SPEAKER_00: especially in the door to door space,
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  SPEAKER_00: because they They don't care if you close the door in their face.
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  SPEAKER_00: They'll just move on to the next house.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I bet you're wondering why the heck I'm talking about this on a podcast for actors.
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  SPEAKER_00: Am I now all of a sudden going to be like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you should definitely use this tactic when trying to book work as an actor.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, don't take no for an answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just don't let them say no.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just keep talking and talking and talking and talking.
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  SPEAKER_00: Until they say yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Until you just finally wear them down.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just wear down casting and production until they hire you.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is not what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I do think we have something to learn from the door-to-door salespeople
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  SPEAKER_00: when it comes to becoming rejection-proof.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what I really wanted to talk about in this episode is how do we get to
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  SPEAKER_00: that space of Oh, okay, that door closed in my face.
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  SPEAKER_00: Guess I'll just move on to the next door.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would watch them in the neighborhood.
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  SPEAKER_00: They would just literally,
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  SPEAKER_00: like, that door would get closed right in the face, and then they would get on...
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  SPEAKER_00: They had these little wheel...
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  SPEAKER_00: One of them,
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  SPEAKER_00: at least,
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  SPEAKER_00: had the little wheelie thing that,
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  SPEAKER_00: like, it's like a Segway, but not because it doesn't have, like, the upper part.
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  SPEAKER_00: The wheelie things.
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  SPEAKER_00: The wheelie things that, like, you wheel around on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, he would just pop right back on that,
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  SPEAKER_00: wheel over to the next house, start the whole process over again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did not give an F.
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  SPEAKER_00: That people didn't want to hear what he had to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I really do think there's a lesson here for actors.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I totally,
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  SPEAKER_00: totally realize that being an actor is very different from being
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  SPEAKER_00: a door-to-door salesman.
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  SPEAKER_00: In that we are the product.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it is really hard to separate out yourself from...
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  SPEAKER_00: The sting of the rejection.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, it feels personal.
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  SPEAKER_00: It feels like they're rejecting you because it is you in the audition, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, I think that there are ways to do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it makes me remember in my life coach training program,
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  SPEAKER_00: we talked about compassion fatigue and how...
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  SPEAKER_00: How to deal with it as coaches because we would hear things
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  SPEAKER_00: where people were very vulnerable and you would hear maybe uncomfortable things
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  SPEAKER_00: from them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it would make the coaches sometimes uncomfortable and you just have to kind
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  SPEAKER_00: of sit with people and hold space for people when they're being vulnerable.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it can lead to compassion fatigue if we're not careful.
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  SPEAKER_00: And my mentor's best advice for us was basically to lean all the way in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really do care.
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  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, like empathy, all of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lean in as much as possible and then lean all the way back out.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the idea here, I think it very much is the same for actors.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lean all the way in on that audition.
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  SPEAKER_00: Go all the way for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Love your work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Love your craft.
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  SPEAKER_00: Love everything that you do as an actor.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really go for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't hold back.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then when it's done, get the heck out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's done.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's over.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mic drop.
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  SPEAKER_00: Done.
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  SPEAKER_00: Over.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bye-bye.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in that way,
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  SPEAKER_00: releasing it,
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  SPEAKER_00: sort of then seeing it as like, okay, that work now is separate from me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even though I'm in that tape,
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  SPEAKER_00: I produced that tape, or I was in that audition, I did the work in that audition.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's me there.
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  SPEAKER_00: As much as you can separate yourself from it, I think that really helps.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to go back actually to my episode that I did a couple weeks ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: How long ago was this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, this was the May 7th episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you leaving your auditions unfinished?
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is the episode where I talked about closing the loop.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because when we close the loop, Then we have decided like, okay, that is finished.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is separate from me.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is over.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is complete.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I can then move on.
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  SPEAKER_00: It makes it easier to move on.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's the same.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's part of becoming rejection proof is being like, okay,
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  SPEAKER_00: well, I did that and it didn't, you know, maybe it'll get me the result that I want.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it won't.
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  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter, but it's over.
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  SPEAKER_00: And even if it does get me not
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  SPEAKER_00: Not the result that I want.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even if it gets me a result I don't want, i.e.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't book,
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  SPEAKER_00: I can still work on being rejection proof around it by separating myself from that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really hope this is making sense because I really think that there's all these ideas here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, we're doing this as a sit and chat because it's a little bit more informal.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just wanted to kind of have a conversation around this.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, this idea of becoming rejection-proof because it's really, really important.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so ways that we can separate ourselves out,
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  SPEAKER_00: ways that we can go, okay,
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  SPEAKER_00: that door got closed in my face and that's okay,
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  SPEAKER_00: are very similar to all the ways that we close the loop.
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  SPEAKER_00: On an audition that we have.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here, here are some of the ones that I came up with for that episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: So mentally or physically crossing that audition off your to-do list.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it's literally, it's done.
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  SPEAKER_00: You put a big old check mark next to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You cross it off.
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  SPEAKER_00: The human brain is really interesting in that we,
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  SPEAKER_00: a dopamine hit will come from being like, haha, I crossed that off my list.
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  SPEAKER_00: I literally bought myself today a notebook that will save my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Has anybody else done that?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it's a little like academic planner for students,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I was like,
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  SPEAKER_00: wait a sec,
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  SPEAKER_00: if I just write down like two or three personal things,
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  SPEAKER_00: two or three career type things,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then I just cross them off, I wonder what that will do.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that will help.
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  SPEAKER_00: Keep me just a little bit more organized and a little bit more dopamine in my life,
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  SPEAKER_00: which also the good.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it worked.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like today I've been like crossing things off and I'm like, okay, yeah, see, there you go.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel done.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel complete.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel separate from those things that I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't feel quite as personal, maybe.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do think that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think they feel complete, let's say.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can move on from them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Another idea that I had in that episode about closing the loop was give yourself
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  SPEAKER_00: a little pat on the back.
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  SPEAKER_00: Say, good job, me.
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  SPEAKER_00: For the work that you just did.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a little bit of self-acknowledgement and celebration further activates dopamine
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  SPEAKER_00: in the brain.
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  SPEAKER_00: Reinforces the idea, that audition is done.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's separate from me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can move on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whatever happens with that is not a reflection of me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can become, I can work on my rejection proofing around myself by being like, that is over.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is done.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whatever happens with that is okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Throw your hands up in the air like they do on the Great British Bake Off when
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  SPEAKER_00: the host says, Bakers, your time is up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're all like, okay, yeah, step away from the bake.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because that physical action, again,
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  SPEAKER_00: also reinforces the it's done energy that is going in your mind and your body.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's like embodying, basically.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I also had use a post-audition affirmation
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  SPEAKER_00: and mindfully redirect your focus back to that phrase whenever your mind drifts into
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  SPEAKER_00: that limbo of like, oh, I wonder if, did I book that?
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope I booked that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And these are the same things we can use,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, when we actually figure out like, oh, I didn't book that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, I didn't book it, but my work is done.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did good work.
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  SPEAKER_00: I finished that audition and that was my job.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did my job in that audition.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, it didn't lead where I wanted it to lead, but that's okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Move on to the next house, as the door-to-door salespeople would say.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then my last one was about practicing knowing that each tape that you submit
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  SPEAKER_00: and every audition you go on strengthens your reputation in
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  SPEAKER_00: the entertainment industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: You never know who will see your tape.
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  SPEAKER_00: You never know what it's leading to.
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  SPEAKER_00: A big phrase that actors like to use is book the room, not the job.
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  SPEAKER_00: This industry is about relationships.
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  SPEAKER_00: And really,
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  SPEAKER_00: so many times it's happened to me that I didn't get a job,
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  SPEAKER_00: but then I got, like,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
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  SPEAKER_00: a bunch more auditions with that same office and eventually booked a job or didn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I'm just building a reputation.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just becoming known by casting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when the time is right,
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  SPEAKER_00: when everything works out,
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  SPEAKER_00: when the stars all align and it's Amy Schloerb that they want,
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  SPEAKER_00: they know where to find Amy Schloerb.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's how this business works.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what I like to do is I practice knowing that my audition tapes are good and
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  SPEAKER_00: that they are out there doing the work that they need to be doing for me
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  SPEAKER_00: in this industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: So how did I phrase this in here?
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, you never know who will see your tape and what it will lead to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thinking that this is,
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  SPEAKER_00: booking this job is the only amazing outcome of the audition could be leading to
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  SPEAKER_00: a lack of imagination or could be, yeah, is a lack of imagination.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and I told the story that in that episode,
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  SPEAKER_00: you should go back and just listen to that episode, watch that episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I told the story about how I booked a web series That was being cast by
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  SPEAKER_00: a commercial casting director who I don't think I ever have booked a commercial
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  SPEAKER_00: with him.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think I ever booked a commercial with him.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: He just called me up and was like, you want to do this web series?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm casting it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like a legit web series.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it paid, had big stars in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, because he knew my reputation.
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  SPEAKER_00: He knew my work.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would go in all the time for him commercially.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I did book something with him.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember.
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  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not the point of the story.
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  SPEAKER_00: The point of the story is around becoming rejection proof.
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  SPEAKER_00: So those are some tricks that you can do to close the loop, to separate yourself from your work.
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  SPEAKER_00: But overall,
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  SPEAKER_00: the idea here is if that door gets closed in your face,
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  SPEAKER_00: and that's going to happen a lot to us as actors,
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  SPEAKER_00: I just want you to move on to the next house.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just move on to the next house.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not personal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nothing in this business is personal.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact,
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  SPEAKER_00: the people in my neighborhood who were rejecting the door-to-door salespeople,
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  SPEAKER_00: that really wasn't personal either.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like, we don't want to buy pest control service.
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  SPEAKER_00: Please stop talking about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like you as a human being are a horrible person and I reject you, slam door in face.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just don't want what you're selling.
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  SPEAKER_00: And here's the good news that also separates actors from door-to-door salespeople.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're never going to go ring Casting's doorbell and just be like,
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  SPEAKER_00: hello, would you like to buy some acting?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not how this business works.
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  SPEAKER_00: What are we going to do?
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  SPEAKER_00: We are going to respond to the request to be sold some of our acting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Literally,
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  SPEAKER_00: casting directors are out there being like,
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  SPEAKER_00: okay, I have these roles that I have to cast.
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  SPEAKER_00: You, you, you, you, and you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Could you sell me some acting?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I think you might have the acting that I need to be able to fix this problem
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  SPEAKER_00: that I have with all these casting things that I have to do over here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So could you sell me some acting, please?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's literally what casting is doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was looking over there as if there were more actors here.
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  SPEAKER_00: There aren't.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm alone in this room.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fun times, guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so casting literally is asking us to sell them our acting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think the more we can separate our acting,
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  SPEAKER_00: the work that we do from our physical bodies,
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  SPEAKER_00: and again,
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  SPEAKER_00: I understand that is not easy to do because we love it so much
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  SPEAKER_00: and it is our physical body doing the thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are our product.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it is very hard to separate yourself from that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But also you need to recognize that this is not personal.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a business.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a business.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a business.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a business.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact,
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  SPEAKER_00: the woman,
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  SPEAKER_00: the same woman who said that,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: there's no separation between the product and the creator of the product,
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: when I heard her say this, she also said, you have to remember this is a business.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's always a business.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's not personal.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so she also obviously was very empathetic to the fact of like,
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: it is hard because, you know, we are our product.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah,
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: so as much as we can separate ourselves,
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: as much as we can go, that is my acting work that I just did that I'm very proud of.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I then put it into this self-tape that I did or I left it in the room with you
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: for that audition,
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: that commercial audition maybe,
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: or I left it in the voice thing that I sent out for a voiceover audition.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: I gave that to you.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's what I sold you.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: And now I'm separate from that.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: As much as we can do that, I think that's good.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: And then remember, move on to the next house.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: You can become a door-to-door salesperson in the best way possible.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that will serve all of us very, very well.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: So this episode got a little long for a chat and chill.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Chat and chill again with the chat and chill.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: That just got in my mind because I thought about calling these that, but I'm not going to.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: So a sit and chat.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: What did I call this?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Hang on.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: I have it on another page.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: A sit and chat because that's literally what we're doing.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: We're sitting and chatting about becoming rejection proof, which is what I want us all to do.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Just to bring us all back around to the main point of this episode.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: So hopefully that wasn't too long-winded, too swirly, twirly gumdrops and things.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, that's what I have for you today.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for joining me.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: And if you want to find out more about me and my work, you can go to thealignedactor.com.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: And if you have been enjoying these episodes and you want to support my work,
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: There are cool ways to do that.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I have a book out currently that's basically a mindfulness toolkit for actors.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: So it gives you a bunch of tools that you can use to calm your nerves
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: before auditions or deal with rejection and uncertainty and unpredictability
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: and urgency and all that stuff.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Those tools will help you with all of that.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: And that book is on my website.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's just $7.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I am actually planning a massive update to it.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, to make it even more of an e-book and even more of a, like, maybe an audio book as well.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then the price will probably go up on that.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: So right now it's $7, uh,
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: and you'll get that version and then when I update it,
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: you'll just be, you'll automatically get that version as well.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so you might as well go grab it,
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: start using the tools that are there because the tools are really good and
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: then you'll get an even more expansive copy, um, Probably later this fall.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: So go to my website and enjoy that.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, thank you so much for joining me, like I said before, and I will see you next time.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.