Latest / Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast / Inside The Tape: Is Something Different About Jalen Hurts, Eagles Pass Offense?

Transcript

Inside The Tape: Is Something Different About Jalen Hurts, Eagles Pass Offense? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome back to Inside the Tape with Greg Cosell.
• 0:11
  On Inside the Birds, I'm Jeff Mosher with Adam Kaplan,
• 0:15
  and of course we bring back Greg Cosell to break
• 0:17
  down the tape of the eagles twenty to seventeen win
• 0:20
  over the Chiefs. We already did the defense, and as
• 0:23
  I mentioned in the last show, we are contractually obligated
• 0:26
  to have Greg break down the offense for us. Some
• 0:30
  might call it offensive, Greg, and not mean that as
• 0:33
  a compliment, but hey, once again, we talk about this
• 0:36
  a lot. The Eagles did what they needed to do
• 0:38
  to win, and they did not turn the ball over.
• 0:41
  But in general, as you watched the Eagle offense, what
• 0:44
  jumped out to you?
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm just trying to figure out the pass game.
• 0:49
  I mean, look, I'm not there, but you know, for
• 0:52
  two weeks now, the pass game has really not been
• 0:55
  very good. And I'm not blaming anyone because I'm not there.
• 0:58
  And you know, we know that the pass game has
• 1:01
  had success in years past. Are they a true passing
• 1:04
  team based on the way you think of the rest
• 1:06
  of the league. They're not. We know that. I mean,
• 1:08
  we spoke about this in the pregame show that. In
• 1:11
  the eighteen games that Jalen hurt started last year, not
• 1:15
  counting the Washington game when he got hurt early and
• 1:17
  left the game, he threw for under two hundred yards
• 1:21
  and eight of those games. So they're not a true
• 1:23
  pass they don't. That's not the way they validate their
• 1:26
  offense by coming out and tossing it all over the yard.
• 1:29
  But what they did against the Chiefs until that that
• 1:33
  final twenty eight yard or to divint to Smith against
• 1:36
  all that pressure, which Steve Spagnolo did more times than
• 1:40
  I can remember any team doing in recent years. He'd
• 1:44
  thrown for like seventy passing yards or something along those lines.
• 1:48
  So you know, it's and you know, it's always easy
• 1:51
  to say, well they won. You know, there's no way
• 1:54
  that the coaches in the building can feel great about
• 1:58
  their pass offense right now. They just came be I mean,
• 2:00
  I've been doing this too long. You guys have been
• 2:02
  doing it for a long time. You know it's going
• 2:04
  to have to get better. Now. They're they're a very
• 2:07
  very good football team, so they can win games. But
• 2:13
  you know, you know the way coaches are, they want
• 2:15
  perfection and strive for excellence along the way to use
• 2:19
  the old you know, Bobby Knight phrase or whoever first
• 2:21
  said it. But you know, the past game has got
• 2:25
  to get better. It's I know Adam loans when I
• 2:28
  say this, but I'll say it. The past game right
• 2:30
  now is a little bit of a tough watch.
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: Oh so let me ask you something off that because
• 2:38
  we know the fan you know, we see what's in
• 2:39
  social media. They want to blame Kevin Batulo and all that.
• 2:45
  You do, not want to criticize play calling or structure.
• 2:47
  But you you were honest last week because they got
• 2:50
  off to a good start that it just completely fell
• 2:52
  off against Dallas.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's things I noticed, and
• 2:56
  I'm just going to say what I noticed, and I'm
• 2:58
  not going to say whether it's good because again there's
• 3:01
  you know, having been fortunate enough to be in meetings,
• 3:03
  you know, at training camp, there's so much, there's so
• 3:06
  many variables to sit on the outside and say, oh,
• 3:09
  this is terrible. This guy's stink. You know, you guys
• 3:12
  know me. I don't do that, but I will say
• 3:14
  that they repeat a lot of plays, and even plays
• 3:17
  that don't work, they repeat them again. You know, there's
• 3:21
  definitely a sense watching the tape the first two weeks
• 3:25
  that there's not a lot of clean, defined throws for
• 3:27
  Jalen Hurts, you know, and he's and Jalen is not
• 3:30
  a necessarily a tight window thrower. That's not his game.
• 3:34
  Will he throw one on ones on the outside, which,
• 3:36
  by the way, he's not even doing now, which is
• 3:38
  very surprising. Again, I can't answer why, but you're not
• 3:43
  seeing that. There was one in particular to aj Brown
• 3:46
  in the first half where I was really surprised he
• 3:48
  didn't throw it to him. But again, no blame, just
• 3:52
  just what the tape showed. So you know, just like
• 3:56
  we talked about the Chiefs in our offensive in our
• 4:00
  when we talked about the Eagles defense, that they have
• 4:02
  some things to figure out. I think the Eagles have
• 4:04
  them things to figure out, because you know, they're not
• 4:07
  coaches are not going to be happy with what the
• 4:09
  past game looks like right now.
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: But Greg, on that real quick, Jeff, I thought, and
• 4:14
  it's kind of what you're saying, Greg. I thought the
• 4:16
  protection based comparably to the Dallas game where it was spotty.
• 4:20
  Seemed like Hertz had no a lot of time.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: I thought he had a lot at times obviously when
• 4:24
  they started just you know, jacking up and dialing up
• 4:27
  the pressure. You know, you don't have enough guys to block,
• 4:30
  and guys got there, and then Jalen just has to
• 4:32
  throw it to the one on ones and hey, fortunately
• 4:35
  they hit that last one to put them up by
• 4:37
  two scorers, which essentially sealed the game.
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: The only thing I will say, and I'm just going
• 4:44
  to say, based on my interpretation of the tape, I
• 4:47
  could be right, I could be wrong. There are times
• 4:49
  watching Jalen drop back when there isn't any pressure, you know,
• 4:53
  normal rush, and based on what I'm my understanding of
• 4:57
  the coverage, there were four five times or I felt
• 5:01
  his eyes were not in the right place. You know.
• 5:05
  That was my interpretation of what I saw. Now, if
• 5:09
  that's true, that's something you can work on. You know, Hey,
• 5:13
  you drop back, you see the safety. Like there was
• 5:15
  one in particular where he dropped back. It was a
• 5:18
  two man route I believe, to the boundary and they
• 5:21
  played cover two to that side, and one of the
• 5:25
  routes was vertical, so the receiver was running right at
• 5:28
  the safety and the other route was just being hugged
• 5:31
  up by the underneath coverage. It was clear the second
• 5:34
  he took the snap that that side was just not
• 5:37
  That's not where you want to be looking now, and
• 5:39
  he just stayed looking at that side. And you know,
• 5:42
  so again I'm thinking, I don't know, but I saw,
• 5:45
  like I said, I thought there were four or five
• 5:47
  examples of that where to me, his eyes just did
• 5:50
  not get to the right spot with the necessary speed
• 5:53
  and clarity.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: Would you say, because I know that there's already a
• 5:57
  lot of sentiment out there, Oh, this feels like more
• 6:00
  like a Brian Johnson offense and kell and the Kevin
• 6:03
  Petulo isn't calling the right place. But when I watched
• 6:06
  the Craig, I feel like it's the same. For the
• 6:09
  most part. They do the same things offensively, The routes
• 6:13
  are pretty similar. I mean, there's a reason why different
• 6:15
  coordinators come in here and eventually ran the routes and
• 6:18
  the play designs that the Eagles typically run. I don't
• 6:22
  see anything that makes me say, oh man, this is
• 6:24
  totally whacked and different than what they were doing last.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, you know the other thing which I've learned,
• 6:30
  you know, being around coaches and talking to more coaches
• 6:33
  year after year after year, is. You know, when a
• 6:36
  guy starts new, like Kevin Petullo, you know you got
• 6:41
  to let the guy grow into into what he's doing.
• 6:43
  I mean, this is you know, don't forget they go
• 6:45
  through a whole off season. All that's great, you know.
• 6:49
  You know, Tom Brady had this thing on social media
• 6:51
  where he talked about it went viral basically, I'm sure
• 6:53
  all you guys saw it where he said, not every
• 6:55
  quarterback coach is great, not every offensive coordinator is great.
• 6:58
  I'm sure that's true. He would certainly know better than I.
• 7:01
  But every coach can you know, draw stuff on the
• 7:04
  iPad or on the board or however teams you know
• 7:07
  do it these days. You know, you know, play calling
• 7:12
  is a different thing. And I never get into play calling,
• 7:15
  as you guys know, because you'd have to be there
• 7:17
  all week to understand what the whole thought process is,
• 7:21
  you know, because maybe fans don't understand that when you
• 7:24
  get to specific situations like let's say it's third and eight,
• 7:29
  the offensive coordinator isn't picking from fifty plays, right, He's
• 7:32
  picking from six plays that they worked on all week. Right,
• 7:36
  That's the way it works.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: And I kind of thought that the plays that they
• 7:40
  were running were plays that they've ran for the last
• 7:42
  right years.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: So I mean, it's not like you know, and I
• 7:45
  learned this from people a lot smarter than I am.
• 7:47
  I mean, I remember an Adam probably remembers just sitting
• 7:49
  with Jaws. He would always say, you know, I knew
• 7:51
  what coach remio or whether he was calling it or
• 7:54
  the coordinator. I knew when we got to third and seven,
• 7:57
  we was going to be one of four plays. You know,
• 7:59
  you know that this is the stuff you practice. You're
• 8:02
  not calling. You don't whip it out of you, you
• 8:04
  know what, and just call something you haven't practiced, you know,
• 8:07
  I mean, this is all practiced.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: Right, you know.
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: So you know, so I'm not going to sit here
• 8:12
  and say that you know it's good, bad, or and different.
• 8:16
  You know, you got to give Kevin Petullo a chance
• 8:19
  to kind of work through the process. This stuff's not easy.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: One of the things that I think is different about
• 8:25
  different just from a end result standpoint, Greg and that
• 8:29
  is probably it's been missing for two weeks and when
• 8:32
  it returns, everybody will probably be thinking back to normal.
• 8:34
  Is just the whole explosive element of Saquon Barkley I mean,
• 8:38
  he's he's run the ball fine, right, I haven't seen
• 8:41
  anything weird, and I'll ask you about it. But they
• 8:44
  just haven't had that one cut that he makes, especially
• 8:47
  in the second half of games last year, where he's
• 8:49
  off to the races and sort of takes the pressure
• 8:52
  off the rest in the difference.
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't forget Normally running backs, you know, very
• 8:58
  rarely do running backs have like four thirty yard runs
• 9:01
  in a game, you know, because Barkley, Barkley's had a
• 9:05
  number of seven yard runs, eight yard runs, nine yard runs.
• 9:07
  And then what was happening last year is in the
• 9:09
  second half, maybe he'd break off a twenty five yard
• 9:12
  and a fifty yarder and all of a sudden he'd
• 9:14
  done the game with twenty two for one forty five,
• 9:16
  and everybody would, you know, say, oh my god, you know,
• 9:19
  that's kind of you know, those plays haven't happened. I mean,
• 9:23
  the Eagles have played two games. They've only had five
• 9:26
  plays of fifteen or more yards and.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: Two games passing or rushing right, passing or rushing right.
• 9:32
  And that's me is the biggest, biggest thing right now.
• 9:35
  Everybody's got all these criticisms, but and you know, Hurts
• 9:38
  put the ball down the field maybe four or five
• 9:41
  times against Spags, right, right, and only one connected the
• 9:45
  twenty the one that mattered it connected. But you know,
• 9:47
  the point is it's almost like the same thing. It's
• 9:49
  just the results are a little bit different.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: Right, So, I mean, you know, look, they play the Rams.
• 9:54
  You know the Rams are gonna be well, we'll do
• 9:56
  that later in the week. Obviously we'll get into more detail.
• 9:58
  But who knows, maybe you know, breaks one and you know,
• 10:01
  everybody goes, oh, there, there we go. You know, you
• 10:03
  just and by the way, the Rams corners that that's
• 10:06
  a bit of a problem to Killer Witherspoon is going
• 10:08
  to be out. So now they're they're down to you know,
• 10:11
  you know, quote unquote backups. So you know, we'll see
• 10:15
  how it all plays out. But right now, I think,
• 10:18
  and don't forget you have to do. The other thing
• 10:20
  you have to understand is Kevin Petullo now is calling
• 10:25
  the plays, and he's the one in Jalen's ear, and
• 10:28
  Jalen did not play in the preseason. And no matter
• 10:30
  how much you do that in training camp or practice
• 10:34
  it in you know, in a meeting room and try
• 10:36
  to get the cadence, and it's not the same as
• 10:39
  doing it in a game. And when you're hearing a
• 10:42
  totally different voice in a different way, you know, sometimes
• 10:45
  it just takes a little time for all that to work.
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: By the way, Greg, this is Hurts a six different
• 10:51
  play caller the NFL career. Peterson was his first one.
• 10:54
  People forget that.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, you know, look, can people be happy, No,
• 10:59
  of course not, but they are too and zero and
• 11:03
  you know, the bottom line is they do not turn
• 11:05
  the ball over. That's right. That's so they don't They
• 11:10
  don't give the opponent short fields. They don't turn it over.
• 11:15
  And I mean they get to these short yardage situations.
• 11:19
  I mean, I believe there were eight push pushes in
• 11:21
  this game if I'm not.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: Mistaken, But either way, yes, yeah, I mean.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: They get into these short yardage situations and it's it's unstoppable.
• 11:31
  So you know, again, I'm not saying I'm not trying
• 11:35
  to defend anybody good or bad or say this is
• 11:38
  wonderful what their their past game is, it's not. But
• 11:41
  you know, it's it's a work in progress right now.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg, the more you talked about you started talking
• 11:47
  about this last year about being a four down offense. Yeah,
• 11:50
  I understood it, but I feel like I have a
• 11:52
  even deeper understanding now because from a from a quarterback standpoint,
• 11:57
  when you're third and eight or third and seven and
• 11:59
  you don't have have to throw to the sticks, which
• 12:02
  everybody is that, you can throw a six yarder or
• 12:05
  dump it off to sake on the flat and he
• 12:06
  can get five. And you're fourth and two and you
• 12:08
  can get that too, especially if you're on there so
• 12:11
  so easily. I don't say so easily, but honestly, it's
• 12:14
  not easy on the players, but the percentages say.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: They're getting it.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: That takes so much pressure.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: And that's where the factor with his legs is such
• 12:23
  a big deal, right, and that can never be discounted.
• 12:27
  I mean, people can say what they want and you know, look,
• 12:32
  you guys both know from talking to people in the building.
• 12:35
  I know this from that and from watching tape for
• 12:37
  one hundred years. Is Jalen Hurts the best passer in
• 12:40
  the game? Of course not. You know, can he make
• 12:43
  certain throws that are really high level, deep balls out
• 12:46
  you know, balls outside the numbers, really good at that?
• 12:49
  You know, is he gonna stick tight window throws between
• 12:51
  the numbers not very often, you know, and in fact,
• 12:54
  they don't call a lot of those because they know
• 12:56
  they know what he is and what he isn't. But
• 12:59
  the legs part that he brings to the table is
• 13:02
  so so critical and really changes the way defenses have
• 13:06
  to play.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: And he looks at Adam. You mentioned this, and after
• 13:10
  the opener he does look more explosively. When he runs.
• 13:13
  It's just a very decisive run. He's hard for whatever
• 13:16
  the reason. Two years ago he didn't run like that
• 13:18
  last year a little better this year he's running with.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Me and you think maybe it was seven touch pushes
• 13:24
  in not eight. But the point is, what how many
• 13:25
  short yardage situations they get into?
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: I mean think about how many teams get third and one,
• 13:30
  fourth and one seven times in a game?
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Right, amazing? All right, last thing before we get to
• 13:37
  the clips, real quick, just from a schematic and observation standpoint,
• 13:40
  without Dallas Goddart, the guy was was Kylin Grantson, Grantson
• 13:45
  and Calcatara. How did they use them? And Cam Latty
• 13:50
  and his snaps? What did you notice?
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a I have to only played six snaps.
• 13:54
  That was a couple of times he lined up as
• 13:55
  kind of an offset fallback.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Again they they were they weren't really used in the
• 14:02
  past game because the past game wasn't really I didn't
• 14:04
  know what to make of the past game as far
• 14:06
  as how they used players, you know, so that I
• 14:09
  think that this was not a good game to talk
• 14:11
  about that. No, I'm not the best. It's really not
• 14:15
  not deployed that way right now. You know, I did
• 14:19
  notice a couple of blocks where you know, he had
• 14:22
  to block and he was in line some Greg, Yeah, exactly,
• 14:25
  Well you have to it who else? Yeah?
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: I thought might I see, I thought they might do
• 14:30
  it with a lot too, But they use him as
• 14:31
  you said, yeah, a lot too, only played six naps.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know that one guy in the group chat
• 14:36
  who hit a five leg parlay week one and he
• 14:38
  wouldn't shut up about it for the rest of the season.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Sounds like Kaplin, right, Yeah, Yeah, it could be him.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: It could be you, and we would all want to
• 14:47
  be you. My bookie makes it stupid easy to get
• 14:52
  in on the action, whether it's college ball, NFL Super Contest,
• 14:56
  and Survivor pools. All the spreads player props and in
• 15:00
  game lines that you could want, all under one roof.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: What more could you want than that? If you're new
• 15:08
  to my Bookie, use our code the Birds thg B
• 15:14
  I RDS The Birds use the code and any bet
• 15:18
  you choose up to five hundred.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Dollars is fully covered.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Make your play and if it doesn't hit, you get
• 15:25
  it right back when you opt in using your bet
• 15:28
  back bonus token. There is no better time to jump
• 15:32
  in right now, no better place to play football is back.
• 15:36
  Let's make some money with my Bookie. Sports are all
• 15:40
  about competition. Every snap, every possession, every clutch moment matters.
• 15:45
  That same energy is what one v one me brings
• 15:48
  to video games. Every single day. You can watch in
• 15:51
  stake on matchups in Mad NBA two k FC and
• 15:55
  Call of Duty Search and Destroy. All the games are
• 15:58
  streamed live every match, refs and payouts are instant. And
• 16:02
  these aren't just random online lobbies. These are the best
• 16:06
  players in the scene, pro streamers and rivals. With season
• 16:09
  playoffs and the championship game on the line, every game matters. Overall,
• 16:14
  hundred million has already been paid out on the app,
• 16:17
  and the community is growing fast. If you're a sports,
• 16:21
  a gamer or just someone who loves having a little
• 16:24
  extra on the line. One v one me is where
• 16:27
  you need to be. It's not just about winning, it's
• 16:30
  about the bragging rights too. Every match has a chat
• 16:33
  going crazy and you can back your picks in real time.
• 16:36
  Download today and use code birds. Your first stake on
• 16:40
  the app is risk free. That's code birds for a
• 16:43
  risk free first stake. I felt like they used grantson
• 16:47
  Greg as a motion tight end to take defenders out
• 16:52
  of the box more so you.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Know what they really really I think it was them.
• 16:57
  I've watched so much Take today, I think my eyes
• 16:59
  are Oh here's what they did. It was then Ego
• 17:02
  throughout the game feature tight end motion away from weak
• 17:06
  side zone run game. And the reason they did that,
• 17:09
  if you notice what that did is it changed the
• 17:12
  strength of the offense. So in other words, the offense
• 17:15
  went from maybe two by two to a three by one.
• 17:18
  So when the tight end went, the linebackers would bump.
• 17:23
  So what that did is then they'd run back to
• 17:25
  the weak side where the tight end was because now
• 17:27
  it's the weak side and you'd have better angles and
• 17:30
  leverage to work up to the second level and block
• 17:33
  the linebackers. Because they bumped over to the strength of
• 17:36
  the formation.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I think I have a good example of that. You
• 17:39
  can tell me if I'm wrong. We'll bring it up.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: It is the Saquon Barkley fifteen yard touchdown, and I'll.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Just ran it. Go back, go back, yep, and look
• 17:48
  at that's grantson right.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, he's the wing tight end. Watch when he goes
• 17:53
  in motion, Watch Tranquill and Bolton. Tranquil is the key guy.
• 17:58
  But watch them they bump. So now look as you
• 18:01
  run it further, watch what did this allows Jurgens to do.
• 18:05
  Look at the angle on the leverage he has on
• 18:07
  on Tranquil because he bumped over. Yep, that's perfect. That's
• 18:11
  that's perfection.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: So something you said last week, Greg also allows Steen
• 18:17
  to be clean to get out to who he has
• 18:20
  to block, right, And something you said last week I
• 18:22
  think is illustrated with this because somebody asked you, I think,
• 18:25
  and ask Greg Cosell on Patreon. Are the Eagles seeing
• 18:28
  a lot of stacked boxes against Barkley?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And you're boar three basically right, because yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: But your point was it doesn't really matter to manipulate
• 18:37
  the numbers and to block.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: You don't have to block fifty four here. I mean,
• 18:41
  he's all right, I mean, he's irrelevant.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Even thirty two Bolton is kind of out of the
• 18:45
  play time.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I always laughed Greg when when fans will say, oh,
• 18:49
  you can't run against eight man, you don't.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Have to block our lock thise either because of the Hurtz.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Factor, right right. So those that motion and taking them out, Yeah.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, they played eight in the box, so they stopped
• 18:59
  the run game. That's the first sign that they have
• 19:01
  the the eye for idiot right on their head. I mean,
• 19:05
  I mean, come on, you know, you know.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: They got five on four here as you can say, yeah,
• 19:11
  and that's a nu miracle advantage. And Barkley as he daniel.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: It up to Connor, who by the way, is a
• 19:17
  very good football player.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: But look he doesn't get touched, not touched for the
• 19:21
  entire run.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: No. So I mean it's you know, that's why motion.
• 19:26
  You know, most people probably think motion in the past game,
• 19:28
  you know, but motion is a big deal that goes
• 19:31
  all the way back to Joe Gibbs with the Washington Redskins.
• 19:34
  With the use of motion. You know, he was a
• 19:36
  master because he changed his strength and and change his
• 19:40
  run support. And that's you know, one reason why you
• 19:43
  do it?
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely all right. I think the one you were
• 19:46
  talking about where he didn't throw it to a J.
• 19:49
  Brown might be here that you.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, that's it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: So let's go back and look what it was going on.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: The boundary acts. He's got press average. I'm kind of
• 20:01
  surprised they didn't convert this to a fade, but they didn't.
• 20:04
  But still he's one on one. It's like I almost
• 20:08
  can't remember the last time they didn't throw to him
• 20:09
  one all exactly.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, like that, when Hurts is
• 20:13
  on man that boss coming out, his eyes would pop
• 20:16
  out of his head. I know where I'm going now.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: His eyes didn't even I think if you see this
• 20:20
  from in front of Hertz, I don't he didn't even
• 20:24
  look there.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: No, I'm shocked because he had to anticipate pressure just
• 20:28
  from the press coverage here and.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: The play where he threw the quick out to Smith
• 20:33
  and he got tackled short of the first down.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I forget the end result of this play. We will
• 20:38
  say see.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: It, yes, yes, And he got tackled short of the
• 20:42
  first the first.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Down, it was third and like eight and he threw
• 20:45
  a five yard Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Now again, I don't want to sit here and say
• 20:49
  Jalen's right or wrong. I don't know how he's coached.
• 20:51
  But all I know is I remember talking to an
• 20:54
  offensive coach in the league who's been doing it for
• 20:56
  one hundred years, and we had a great four hour
• 20:59
  zoom like three years ago. Okay, we were just watching
• 21:02
  plays and it was as a good friend of mine,
• 21:04
  and he said, okay, and he showed a play like
• 21:07
  this where there was a boundary X, you know, and
• 21:09
  he said, all right, where does the ball go? And
• 21:11
  I started, you know, breaking down the whole plan and
• 21:14
  he said, you can stop breaking down the whole play.
• 21:16
  You're throwing it to the one on one. I mean,
• 21:18
  you know that's the way most teams, you know. So
• 21:21
  I was just surprised. Again, I don't want to sit
• 21:23
  here and say Hurts is right or wrong, because I
• 21:24
  don't know what he was told when they called this play. Right,
• 21:27
  Normally he goes to Brown if he's one on one.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And this, I feel like this is very similar
• 21:33
  to last year's NFC Championship game on the second drive,
• 21:37
  when he threw a beautiful ball down the left side
• 21:40
  of Land on third and long Brown, and we all
• 21:44
  did the tape and said, a lot of quarterbacks won't
• 21:46
  even try to throw that ball on third and eight
• 21:50
  long because it's a low percentage play. But he doesn't
• 21:53
  so well.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: By the way, I don't that's not even McDuffie. I
• 21:56
  think that's This was early in the game. I don't
• 21:58
  get Tuffy. It's no mcduffe's down below. Mcduffee might be
• 22:02
  blitzing here. So I think it's Fulton thirty. I think
• 22:05
  that's Fulton. Yeah, yep.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going after Kristen Fulton all day.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So again, no blame because I don't know. But
• 22:14
  we've just seen in the past where that's almost a
• 22:16
  given that that's where the ball goes. Right.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Hey, fall is planting season. Did you know that many
• 22:20
  plants and trees actually do better when planted this time
• 22:23
  of the year. But you got to know where to start,
• 22:26
  And that's why I love fast growing trees dot com.
• 22:30
  Does it matter if you live in the sunny South
• 22:32
  or if the air is getting a little chilly where
• 22:34
  you are. The plant experts can help you find the
• 22:37
  perfect fit for your space. They've got everything in your
• 22:40
  yard needs fruit trees, privacy trees, shrubs, flowering trees so
• 22:44
  much more, and Fast Growing Trees makes it so easy
• 22:47
  for you to have your dreamyard because you can order
• 22:50
  online and get your plants delivered directly to your door.
• 22:52
  If you're like me, you're tired of spending way too
• 22:55
  much money on landscaping. And if you walk into one
• 22:58
  of those nurseries and you look at all the stuff
• 23:00
  they have, you have no idea where to begin. That's
• 23:03
  why you need Fast Growing Trees dot Com. Doesn't matter
• 23:07
  about the size of your yard. They got over six
• 23:09
  thousand plants to fit any space, and a fourteen point
• 23:12
  quality checklist insures you will get the best quality plants
• 23:17
  possible this fall. They have the best deals for your yard,
• 23:20
  up to half off on select plants and other deals,
• 23:22
  and listeners to our show get fifteen percent off their
• 23:25
  first purchase when using the code birds at checkout fifteen
• 23:29
  percent off at Fast Growing Trees dot Com using the
• 23:33
  code birds at checkout. Now's the perfect time to plant.
• 23:36
  Use birds to save today. The offer's valid for a
• 23:39
  limited time. Terms and conditions may apply. Check out the
• 23:42
  link below. 're in the show notes and support the show.
• 23:45
  This is a third and five in the second quarter, guys,
• 23:51
  and it's gonna go. It's I pulled this one, Greg.
• 23:54
  I don't know if it was in your notes, but
• 23:56
  it was. It was advante wide open on a crosser there.
• 24:00
  And you remember how you said like he's just not
• 24:02
  looking in the I didn't even know if he saw
• 24:03
  it or looked at.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: It screaming at him. So what we would have to
• 24:09
  know again is when they called this play and practice
• 24:12
  this play, because obviously they didn't just call it on
• 24:14
  a women, you know, without having practiced it. You know
• 24:17
  who they felt was the primary? Who's secondary? You know?
• 24:21
  Where do they want him to go with the football?
• 24:24
  Just run it? Because I think they changed the picture
• 24:26
  post snap. Yeah, okay, let's see. So yeah, it looks
• 24:30
  like yeah, yeah, but it's not abnormal what they did.
• 24:36
  It's not like five guys moved and it's like, oh
• 24:38
  my god, where are people all right?
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day here, they
• 24:42
  rushed four right and drop and drop guys in the coverage,
• 24:45
  so he had plenty of time.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They're basically playing cover two. It's cover two inverted top,
• 24:50
  meaning the corner becomes the defab player and twenty one
• 24:53
  Hicks becomes the flat player and it's cover two down below,
• 24:56
  so it's not an abnormal coverage.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Right, And so what happens on this play is he
• 25:03
  runs straight forward and gets Cam Jurgens called for holding
• 25:06
  because Cam has no idea he's actually gonna run, uh,
• 25:10
  and then makes a block that that was considered holding here.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Now again, I don't know how he's coached, but you know, normally,
• 25:18
  normally when you see cover two, okay, normally, what you
• 25:23
  might do, you know, if if you're gonna throw with
• 25:25
  timing and anticipation and you know, and what we've seen
• 25:28
  him do, by the way, is you think cokatara down
• 25:30
  the scene because the middle is open, so ideally you
• 25:33
  throw it down the seam and you bend him in
• 25:35
  a little bit with your throat terror or.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Is that grant?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: This cock tar is right in the middle the forty
• 25:43
  yard line where.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: You've Yeah, when when when can you throw him that ball?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Because this is a timing anticipation throw.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you see he still has enough time to
• 25:55
  make the throw.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: It's got to be a great throw. It's a big guy. Yeah,
• 25:58
  But I mean that's the NFL. I mean that's and
• 26:00
  again it's not an easy I'm not saying that this
• 26:02
  is pitch and catch. That's quarterbacks see the middle open,
• 26:06
  and there's a seam route very often throw the safety
• 26:10
  is late. Six is late, whoever six is Yeah. Again,
• 26:13
  like I said, Jeff, I'm not saying this is routine
• 26:15
  that anybody could make it, but that's that's the way
• 26:18
  guys are taught. Middle open, you have a seam route
• 26:21
  that often where the ball goes right.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And then I think they're taught like you go, what's
• 26:25
  the furthest the shortest. So if you're not going to
• 26:28
  make that throw, you then come middle right.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right, Jeff. Right.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: If he doesn't like to throw, he's got six open,
• 26:35
  he's got DeVante open for first down.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean technically he could he probably should
• 26:39
  throw the ball here to DeVante at this point. Not here, well,
• 26:42
  you know when the fed I.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Mean there's a throat the bottom line point is there's
• 26:48
  a throw to be made here.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And then so the fact that he didn't even throw it,
• 26:53
  he just ran.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Middle again, you know, only he could tell you what
• 26:57
  he saw as this all happened. But there's a throw
• 27:00
  to be made. Here. But you know, like I said,
• 27:03
  you know, this was you know, one of the plays
• 27:04
  where I thought I wasn't sure where his eyes were
• 27:07
  and I wasn't sure, you know, based on the route
• 27:10
  concept versus this coverage, how he was coached and you
• 27:13
  know who who they felt he should have thrown the
• 27:16
  ball to. Sure, right, sure, all right.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: The last one was one that he uh this Now,
• 27:22
  this is a one that he throws Greg but I
• 27:25
  wanted to He's incomplete to DeVante down the left sideline here.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Well this was against zero yep, again zero, and this
• 27:34
  is he's just thrown it up, right, this is the
• 27:36
  same play that worked. He's just thrown it up. That's
• 27:39
  what I want to do.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: So this is the exactly play in the second in
• 27:41
  the fourth quarter of that wound up being.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: This is fine by Jalen. He has no choice. He's
• 27:45
  thrown to the one on ones, you know, to the guy.
• 27:48
  Look right now, Jalen is seeing that there's basically no
• 27:52
  safety that could possibly be involved in this throw. So
• 27:56
  you know, Smith is the boundary X here. So he's
• 27:59
  just throwing it off and you know, hoping he makes
• 28:01
  a play. That's all you can do here, you know,
• 28:03
  you don't have enough to you know, write time and
• 28:07
  everything for who to block here, so he kind of
• 28:09
  didn't block anybody.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Really good throw considered, he almost got his great.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Throw right, And that's why that's why I pointed this out.
• 28:15
  I want because everybody knows about the play that Davonte
• 28:18
  made that was important. And Andy Reid used to have
• 28:21
  a phrase he said, we're just a hair off, you know,
• 28:24
  when things weren't going well. And this is sort of
• 28:26
  an example because this is.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: A place to be a great throw by by Jalen.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Right, that's what I'm saying. It's not all on Jalen
• 28:32
  and this play like eight times out of ten, I
• 28:35
  feel like Davanta makes and he just didn't make that one.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I mean it was pretty well covered. It was it
• 28:41
  was that was the rookie too, No, no, Williams from
• 28:43
  cow Yeah. But uh but yeah, this was a great throw.
• 28:48
  I mean he had no choice. That's where you got
• 28:50
  to throw it. And you know, then you hope your
• 28:51
  guy makes a play, which he did later in the
• 28:53
  game against McDuffie. You know, so, uh, that's all you
• 28:56
  can do against zero like that. You know, you don't
• 28:58
  want to take a sack you're in field goal range,
• 29:00
  so you don't want to take a sack, so you
• 29:01
  get the ball out.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Right, And that that was my point. If if he
• 29:05
  catches that ball, they score either a field goal or
• 29:07
  a town Hurts has like one hundred and sixty yards
• 29:10
  instead of one hundred and ten or twenty whatever whatever
• 29:12
  he had. And then people, I also think it's more.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Normal reasons bags and he ultimately got burned with it
• 29:17
  one time, just kept increasing his blitz frequency in the
• 29:20
  zero is because the offense, the pass game was just
• 29:23
  he could tell that the Eagles pass game was out
• 29:25
  of saint I mean, right, you know, it had no
• 29:27
  rhythm to it at all.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Right, right, and I credit him. You know, he gave
• 29:30
  up a lot of big plays in the Super Bowl,
• 29:32
  but he didn't back down from trying to In fact,
• 29:35
  he blitzed more probably in this game than he even did.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, so he didn't back down. No, it's uh,
• 29:43
  you know, it's it's look, you'd rather be two and
• 29:45
  oh with things to work on than oh and two
• 29:46
  or one and one with things to work on. Definitely true.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: All right, So that was the snapshot of the Eagles offense.
• 29:52
  They won the game though they're two and oh and
• 29:55
  of course we will all talk about their next game,
• 29:57
  Week three versus the La Rams. Back at the link
• 30:01
  in the Inside the Birds pregame show, all three of us,
• 30:03
  Greg co Sell, Adam Kaplan and Jeff Mosher. Thanks for
• 30:06
  watching another edition of Inside the Tape with Greg Cosell
• 30:10
  on Inside the Birds