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Feminism was always like that | Maintaining Frame 121 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: One.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Yes, you already interrupted me. Hello everybody, Welcome
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  Speaker 2: to Honeybadge Radio. My name is Brian he with Alison
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  Speaker 2: and this is maintaining frame number one twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: Feminism was always like that.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna be looking at a couple of vintage video
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  Speaker 2: from the you know about times of feminists past, the
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  Speaker 2: ghost of feminist past, which is more of a Christmas
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  Speaker 2: reference than a Halloween one.
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  Speaker 1: But it is scary. So I guess it's in tune
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  Speaker 1: with with the months of Spootober.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's it's spooky how nothing has changed.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is it's spooky that no one uh is
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  Speaker 2: taking notice, sort of like invasion of the body snatchers,
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  Speaker 2: like more people have become pod people, and yeah, not
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  Speaker 2: a lot has changed.
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  Speaker 4: But.
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  Speaker 2: We're here to nonetheless point the finger and say, look,
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  Speaker 2: this is what's going on, and hoping that people will
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  Speaker 2: you know, shake out of their their dream state.
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  Speaker 3: And not stop saying that there was some kind of
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  Speaker 3: feminists past.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's always been.
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  Speaker 1: This feminists of feminism of the past that was.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what's happened is that the toxic waste has
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  Speaker 3: now come to your community. So you're starting to notice it.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, but feminism has always been this bad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and we're going to take a look at that. And
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  Speaker 3: also I just wanna, I just want to point out
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  Speaker 3: that I am is it success rizing or decorating. I
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  Speaker 3: am decorating for the season I have.
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  Speaker 1: Before Christmas zero and for Christmas zero. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I don't know if you guys can see this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's one of the shirts, right, No, it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I have to go back, even brother, this is
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  Speaker 3: a nightmare before Elm Street.
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  Speaker 1: Follow your Dreams, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, follow your dreams.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of shirt too. But she won't show it off.
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  Speaker 2: But it's uh, it's got Jason from and it says
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  Speaker 2: t G I f thank god, thank god it's with
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  Speaker 2: Jason on it. We like, we like Jason Vorhees in
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  Speaker 2: this house.
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  Speaker 3: I see you're not a You're not a Freddy Krueger.
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  Speaker 3: Freddy Krueger appreciated.
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  Speaker 1: He's all right. No, I like Freddy Krueger too.
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  Speaker 2: I just prefer Jason that Jason is, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's not the og that would be Michael Myers or Leatherface,
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  Speaker 2: but he's one of the he's one of them. He's
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  Speaker 2: part of the you know, of the people who started it,
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  Speaker 2: and I include Freddy and Chucky in that as well.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, shout out to Freddy Krueger and Jason Vorhees.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, all right and Zero.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, of course Zero, who's also well, I guess he
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  Speaker 3: isn't really an og because the Nightmare before Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to hear like people are
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  Speaker 2: gonna it's it's considered vintage now it's considered retro, So
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to think about that. I mean, like
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  Speaker 2: the Force Awakens, the start of the end of Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars is almost ten years old. Let that that sync
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  Speaker 2: in how long it's been, how old we are. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so you were gonna ask me about my show yesterday
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  Speaker 2: with Blue.
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  Speaker 3: Orange, mm hmm, I was what exactly happened, because we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna try to do it, and.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna have him back on. Yes, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have him back on. But frankly, I don't have
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  Speaker 2: much more information than you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Like when we were done with the call, he just left.
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  Speaker 2: And then like I think late last night or early
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  Speaker 2: in the morning, I don't know, he sent me a
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  Speaker 2: message today. Man, I really filed that up. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I want to do this over, blah blah blah. So
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well we'll do it over. He
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  Speaker 2: wants to do it soon, and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: just get some rest. So he said that it was
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  Speaker 2: like jet lag. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go
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  Speaker 2: with it. I suspect something else. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: jet lag does to people, but it's fine, like whatever,
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  Speaker 2: as long as he's like, you know, gonna be better
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  Speaker 2: next time. Maybe what's Yeah, he said he was sleep
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  Speaker 2: deprived and jet lagged. So I've never been jet lagged.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, Like I guess, like I
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  Speaker 2: flew from Australia to home to Chicago and that was rough.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, could you be like, is
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  Speaker 2: that justifiable?
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  Speaker 1: Jet lag?
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  Speaker 2: Also fly from London to Chicago. We did it a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times. I think I was really tired because
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  Speaker 2: I think even though you're sitting on a plane, it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of exhausting. But I don't know, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what I always assumed jet lag meant that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: time zones are thrown off because you're going from one
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  Speaker 2: time zone to another and you haven't adapted to it,
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  Speaker 2: so like your sleep cycle is all screwed up. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I thought, But I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's also a really good topic because sometimes
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  Speaker 3: we need to look back. I know Hannah's also doing this,
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  Speaker 3: but we need to look back at feminists of Halloween's.
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  Speaker 2: Past, yesterday the Yeah, so feminists of the sixties. We
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  Speaker 2: have two videos and one of them is eight minutes long,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the one I have here displayed. This one
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  Speaker 2: is called oh, it's just called feminist footage, I think.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just like old footage from the feminist movement.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's another one called Miss America, which I
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  Speaker 2: think is a little bit more robust. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: got more stuff in it in it. So let's let's
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  Speaker 2: just watch this. You see, we're just going to open
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  Speaker 2: up with the opening.
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  Speaker 5: So experience which Black Americans were having did not go
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  Speaker 5: unnoticed by the rest of America. Something had started that
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  Speaker 5: was beginning to spread a new kind of pride, identity,
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  Speaker 5: and consciousness that was about to turn the mass movements
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  Speaker 5: of the nineteen sixties into new and different forms of activism.
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  Speaker 3: Now, we fought public accommodations fight ten years ago with
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  Speaker 3: the blacks, so we're gonna have to start all over
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  Speaker 3: again with women. About was like a sign up there,
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  Speaker 3: said blacks only or whites only. It's the same president there.
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  Speaker 6: We are women are persons, women.
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  Speaker 1: Are people, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So this is essentially the origin of the second wave
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  Speaker 2: feminist movement.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's what people call it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was called the second wave
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  Speaker 2: movement at the time that it was going on.
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  Speaker 7: Hm.
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  Speaker 1: And it basically attached this helf to the civil rights movement.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you.
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  Speaker 2: Have this, you know, where they're like, well, you did
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  Speaker 2: this for blacks, so you should do this for women.
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  Speaker 2: It was always parasitic in that way. I have criticisms
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  Speaker 2: of the civil rights movement too, don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 2: but we're not talking about that right now. So this
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  Speaker 2: is just like an uh you know, these are just
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  Speaker 2: clips of the periods you could see that. This is
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  Speaker 2: like like literally what's going on right now?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: So we had this movement. It still exists in a
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  Speaker 2: way we have Black Lives Matter. It was feminist women
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  Speaker 2: using black men to get power and money and resources
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  Speaker 2: and influence.
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  Speaker 1: And this is I mean, it's basically the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: They're just they're just.
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  Speaker 2: Changing, you know, uh, changing their hand in the deck.
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  Speaker 2: What's what's the hand I can use here?
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, well, yeah, I wanted to add to that
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  Speaker 3: because I've been thinking a lot about this and getting
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  Speaker 3: into these arguments, and a lot of feminists and people
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  Speaker 3: who are feminist leaning, or actually most people just use
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  Speaker 3: feminist framework in their day to day because it's it's
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's useful.
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  Speaker 8: It's useful.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a religion, it's got its uses. And when
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  Speaker 3: I was debating back and forth on Twitter, which is
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  Speaker 3: why I do this on Twitter, because I really want
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  Speaker 3: to understand where the thinking is coming from and sort
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  Speaker 3: of contrast it with my own thinking, I realize that
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  Speaker 3: this whole evolution of the situation with slavery in the
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  Speaker 3: US and how it sort of ended up falling down
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  Speaker 3: into two groups like black people and white people. The
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  Speaker 3: whole evolution of all of that and then the civil
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  Speaker 3: rights movement and then moving towards what's happening now is
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  Speaker 3: really beneficial in buttressing some of the arguments that feminists make.
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  Speaker 3: And one argument in particular that I've been going through
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  Speaker 3: and I probably do like maybe a solo video on this,
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  Speaker 3: is that for some reason they.
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  Speaker 8: Can look throughout history.
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  Speaker 3: Case what has happened, is this an oppressed people or
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  Speaker 3: a group that was being oppressed, usually through tribalism or
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  Speaker 3: you know, military stuff or what have you, but also
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  Speaker 3: you know, in terms of being like being slaves, they
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  Speaker 3: would either they would usually appeal to a third party
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  Speaker 3: that existed separate from their oppressor. So they would appeal
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  Speaker 3: to someone who was ethically, politically cultural, a group ethically
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  Speaker 3: or politically culturally distinct from the people oppressing them. And
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  Speaker 3: they would appeal to a political conflict or a political
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  Speaker 3: or military conflict between the two, and that's how they
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  Speaker 3: got their interests advanced. They never appealed directly to their oppressors.
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  Speaker 3: And the history of civil rights, the history of slavery
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  Speaker 3: and segregation and all of that, the initial situation when
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  Speaker 3: it sort of fell down into it being like an
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  Speaker 3: institution where white people were the slave owners and black
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  Speaker 3: people were the slaves, because before then there was a
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  Speaker 3: lot more. There was a period of time where it
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  Speaker 3: seemed like everything was up for grabs in a way,
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  Speaker 3: so that when that happened, what ended up having to
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  Speaker 3: happen to remove slavery in the States in particular. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm just focusing on the States because this is the
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  Speaker 3: one where we mostly look at in other cultures around
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  Speaker 3: the world. For example, Britain had been had outlawed slavery
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  Speaker 3: before then, but it took the North invading, breaking the
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  Speaker 3: military might of the South and forcing laws on the
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  Speaker 3: South in order to make this happen. And also the
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  Speaker 3: issue of slavery had to be on the table as
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  Speaker 3: being something beneficial for the North to get rid of
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  Speaker 3: in order to we in the South and in order
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  Speaker 3: to create uprisings in the South and create conflict in
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  Speaker 3: the South that it could then exploit go in militarily.
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  Speaker 3: So when you look at this, that's what had to
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  Speaker 3: happen in the situation with slavery. At no point did
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  Speaker 3: slaves necessarily on mass go up to the people who
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  Speaker 3: were oppressing them on mass and say, hey, we don't
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  Speaker 3: like this. Could you please stop?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: Or no, not even we don't like this. You are
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of bigots. How dare you oppress us?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 3: You will stop now. At no point did that happen.
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  Speaker 3: It was a conflate. It was like a whole bunch
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  Speaker 3: of military, political and other factors, and ultimately they had
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  Speaker 3: to appeal to a third party in terms of the North,
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  Speaker 3: which was culturally distinct and economically distinct from the South.
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  Speaker 3: And then the North had and the people who were
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  Speaker 3: a part of the system, the white people who were
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  Speaker 3: part of the slavery in the South, they took that
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  Speaker 3: shit to their grave. They never said that they were wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure some of them did, but there
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  Speaker 3: were quite a few who never would admit that. You know,
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  Speaker 3: and I think we can all agree that slavery is wrong,
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  Speaker 3: So I would say that they were wrong. But that
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  Speaker 3: has become over time going through the segregation process, which
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  Speaker 3: was again the people who involved in wanting to get
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  Speaker 3: rid of these laws, they had to appeal to a
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  Speaker 3: third part, a third party that was culturally distinct from
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  Speaker 3: the people who were putting these laws in place and
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  Speaker 3: enforcing these laws. So again they had to appeal to
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  Speaker 3: a third party. And then we get to the modern
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  Speaker 3: area where it's getting a lot different, shall we say,
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  Speaker 3: And this is where where feminism, I think comes in.
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  Speaker 3: So black people had done all of the work with
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  Speaker 3: white people who were or had the ethical concerns that
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  Speaker 3: were in line with opposing slavery, or the political concerns
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. So they did this work, and then the
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  Speaker 3: feminist movement comes up, come around, co opts this entire
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  Speaker 3: history and says women are as oppressed or more oppressed
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  Speaker 3: than black people were. And then it because of this
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  Speaker 3: evolution of generations upon generations upon generations of challenging this
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  Speaker 3: form of tribalism, now we're in a situation where I
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  Speaker 3: think the pendulum has swung too far the other way.
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  Speaker 3: And feminists can point to that and say, hey, it
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  Speaker 3: makes total sense that an oppressed people can walk up
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  Speaker 3: to their oppressors and simply demand stuff and get it.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't. It never did. But now that the situation
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  Speaker 3: is much more swung in the other direction, that's what
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  Speaker 3: feminists can do, and they can use that. They can
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  Speaker 3: use that to buttress their claims of oppression, because the
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  Speaker 3: most devastating argument against feminism's claim of oppression is your
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  Speaker 3: solution to it is simply to ask your oppressors stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And they'll say, all, that's what black people did with
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  Speaker 3: white people. No, that's not what they did. They had
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  Speaker 3: to ask completely culturally, ethic ethically, religiously, economically, and militarily
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  Speaker 3: distinct groups of people third parties to come in and
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  Speaker 3: make these changes, okay, And so they completely ignore the
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  Speaker 3: whole history of it. They look at the so they
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  Speaker 3: came in precisely when they could frame everything in terms
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  Speaker 3: that benefited them. That's what I'm trying to get at.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hm.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the process, they came in, at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the process, they said, well, look, look,
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  Speaker 3: look at look at black people. They just walk up
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  Speaker 3: to their oppressor and ask them for whatever they want,
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  Speaker 3: just like us, just like women. And it's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: but you're do did you see the whole history of
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  Speaker 3: sacrifice in war and appealing to white people who felt
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  Speaker 3: it was a violation of the human spirit to have
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  Speaker 3: you miss in all that, You're just gonna ignore it,
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  Speaker 3: and it is to buttress or hide or obscurificate the
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  Speaker 3: truth that they're dynamic. The dynamic between men and women
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  Speaker 3: that feminist exploit look nothing at all like the history
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  Speaker 3: of slavery, civil rights segregation, doesn't look at anything like it. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'll get on.
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  Speaker 2: But they're making the same basic case and this is well, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I also want to point out that at this point
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  Speaker 2: in time, even though this was going on with the
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  Speaker 2: civil rights movement, if you take a step away from
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  Speaker 2: what the civil rights movement was about and you just
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  Speaker 2: look at the condition of the black population, particularly the
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  Speaker 2: black family. They were doing very very well, and in fact,
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  Speaker 2: civil Rights did a lot of harm because that's when
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  Speaker 2: Lyndon Johnson came in and start.
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  Speaker 1: I have the whole thing up. I have a tab
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  Speaker 1: on it in case we need to look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Feminist on Twitter space and just proved my suspicion since
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  Speaker 2: first seeing her on your podcast. She's a lunatic feminist
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  Speaker 2: and a child. How was Brian able to be so
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  Speaker 2: generous when she was on your show? She doesn't deserve
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  Speaker 2: anyone's patience. I found it weird that her husband was
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  Speaker 2: on fireside Chat like she needed an emotional support animal. Well,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna throw any more shade than you already
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: did at that, But all I will say is, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Natty was really good when we were when we got along,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: she was a great person. I don't know what happened.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I have no explanation other than I think that COVID
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and the lockdowns and everything, it just did a real
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: number on her and she started going down rabbit holes
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: and maybe she's lost herself a little bit.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know so, but thank you for the super
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: child regardless.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Hmm. Yeah, I'm not going to say anything to that.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's Yeah, I don't why. The reason
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: why we did that was because we have she's done
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: good things for the men's rights movement. She has spoken
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: to her in the past, in the past, I'm not saying, right. Yeah, honestly,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to see if Brian could unearth what
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: it was, because I you know, Brian's a very uh
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: he can be very a gentle and diplomatic, shall we say,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: And I figured that was the best way to try.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people, I think we got flak
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: for being not so intrusive or not so like nailing
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: her on stuff.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: But I'm I didn't know.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I mean I would have, but I didn't. I didn't
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: really have any There wasn't much there though.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: It was all like gather. It was all.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Feelings and like, you know, suspicions and then like drama.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I think that and I you know, if look again,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I have nothing against Natty, but I think that she
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: had a goal of having she wanted me to condemn
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: like Peter Wright and these other people on Twitter, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: it's like, I'm not doing that. Like I you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: like people have their opinions, they're allowed to have them.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I have my own opinion.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I'm very opinionated, right, but I don't I don't say, well,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: you are excommunicated from the Men's movement because you don't
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: agree with me. I'm just like, well, whatever I mean,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I think I'm right. You go ahead and follow your
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: truth ten men or whoever. We'll see how that goes.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: That's all I say. I think that ultimately, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: it's okay that we don't agree. So anyway, so yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I hope that she, you know, figures it out. I
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: don't know, and maybe I maybe there is something there,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: but I I can't see it now. So I guess
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: that's that's all. And maybe I'll learn at some point
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: in the future. But anyway, Yeah, so let's listen to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: more of this.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: You want to be able to come and go through you.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: We don't want to be intimidated by signed to say
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: men's to.
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: Say, I have no intentions of taking your sign down
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: or changing your.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: Sign if you can get a court order to take
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: it down.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Fine, Yeah, this guy looks you know who this guy
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: looks like. I just gotta say, you know who this
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: guy looks like. He looks like Paul Simon.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm doing, you know, soft in the
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: middle now, so you know you can be my bodyguard.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: That's that's what he looks like.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Man, bam bam. You know the song?
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Yes they do.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, you can call me l y, call me ow.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I have nothing against him. I'm just saying he looks
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: like Paul.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I just want to point something out right in the middle,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: right right off the bat, what are they doing there?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: They are shutting down a men's space. M right off
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: the flipping back. And I just, like, a couple of
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: weeks ago, I just got through arguing with a feminine.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: They're demanding access to a men's space, which ultimately kills
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the men's space.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was arguing with the feminists. He said, well,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: why don't men make their own spaces if they're lonely, hurt, adurp.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, and I sent them all of the ship,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: like just starting from all of the stuff that cafe
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: had to deal with, all of the protests, all the
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: spitting in people's face and calling them a misogynist for
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: wanting to talk about men's issues, to all of the
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: people that I've known who've tried to have services for men,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: services for men dealing with domestic violence, sexual assault, who
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: have been either attacked literally attacked like physically attacked by feminists,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: or attacked in the media and forced to shut down
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: bomb threats. I mean, this is continual, and it's absolutely
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: the height of arrogance to say, well, why don't men
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: make their spaces when feminists continually shut them down, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: then they blame men for it. The result is that
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: men don't have their own spaces, that men are lonely,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: they can't establish friendships just with men without the oversight
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: of women, and feminists blame them for that. It's like,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: why don't you have men's spaces? As soon as the
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: men tries to make one, feminist comes down and starts
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: kicking it down. And here we see right off the
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: bat the first fifty five seconds of this video, what
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: are feminists doing?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: And remember this is a pro feminist video. So the
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: person who shared this clip doesn't see anything wrong with.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: This, Nope, So I would have told him to uh,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: fat woman.
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: All right, your policy, I'm say, you're getting facilities?
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: Is that correct sor you women are that hard up
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: for a glass of beer.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I'll be glad to hear at the barron.
• 25:36
  Speaker 12: You know, sometimes the events of decades can crystallize in
• 25:41
  Speaker 12: a moment, and it seems as if overnight there's this
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: historic change. When you look back at it, you say, oh, well,
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: this was building up and building up. And for years
• 25:49
  Speaker 12: there was this person and this person in this group
• 25:51
  Speaker 12: and they were networking in this, in this, and then
• 25:53
  Speaker 12: there was a shift. The women's movement had many orders.
• 26:01
  Speaker 12: In part, it owes its renewed birth to the civil
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: rights movement.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Oh that is ballsy, isn't it. She's got Yeah, she's
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: got some chesticles on her.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Oh that is ball Then of course, the renewed thing
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: is that they had a new narrative to bash men
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: over the head with, and and they co opted it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: And I think a lot of all of the crap,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you know, I'll defer to Brian to sign off on this.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of the crap that the black
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: community is dealing with is because women like this said,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: ooh that's useful, that's relevant to my interests, and they
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: distorted the politics around it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that I think that the Civil
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: this is my thing. Okay, I'm not going to go
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: into too much, but if you guys want to talk
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: to me about it another time. I know it's not related,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: but I think the Civil Rights Act it was unprincipled
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: in its design, and I think that feminists used that
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: to its advantage and it did it honestly. After that,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: after that and the and the Great Society Lyndon B.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Johnson putting all that together, feminists had a tremendous amount
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: of influence on that as well. Because remember you know
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: that they they there was that uh you know that
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: clause or that that Yeah, there was like a clause
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: you could say, in the social security system that said
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that if a woman wanted to get benefits, then there
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: could not be a man in the home. And so
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that was the The blacks were cooked from the beginning
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: because the feminists came in and a lot of the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: feminists were black themselves, so we're not just talking about
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: white women, and they basically like pushed this stuff in
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: and so like now, like you know, the black populations
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: in bad shape and a lot of it has to
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: do with the feminists, say, the feminist policies pushed under
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the guise of civil rights for blacks. That's all I'll
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: say about that, Okay. Richard Bierre gave us a superchow
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: a big one too, said for five bucks, there are
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: still laws in place that contributed to the Civil War.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's big.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying that like I don't have enough space
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: on the screen to show at all.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Oh oh comment comments.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: It's a big it's a large block of text. So anyway, yeah,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: thank you. Richard five bucks says there are still laws
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: in place that contributed to the Civil War kicking off,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: such as the Navigation Acts that are still in place today,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: which require that good ship between the US ports can
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: be transported only on ships built in the United States,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: registered in the United States, and crewed only by US
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: citizens only. This is one of the laws with a
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: supposed good intention that is another paving stone on the
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: road to hell. Because of this law, oil couldn't be
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: shipped from Texas to Puerto Rico due to their being
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: no oil tankers meeting the requirements of being US built,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: registration and crude.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: That was relatively recently that and the government had eliminated
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the tax on telephone lines that was put in place
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to pay for the Spanish American War.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, so and yeah, that's a part of it. Like,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: there's this whole complex network of factors that led to
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the end of slavery, the end you know, the civil
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: rights era, the end of segregation and all of that,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: and at no point in time was it ended because
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: people who were oppressed en mass asked their oppressors to
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: stop oppressing them or to give them stuff. That's my point.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: It's all a very complex It involved a lot of sacrifice,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of death on both sides, not just with
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: black people, but white people who wanted to end segregation
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: and wanted to end slavery also got in for a
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: lot of censure, a lot of violence, a lot of murder. So,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a very very complex and difficult
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: history with a lot of competing interests that led to
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: this result. And to simplify all that and say, oh,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: but it totally makes sense that if you're oppressed you
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: can just ask your oppressor to do stuff for you.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: That is such a cynical, callous whitewashing of history, that
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: feminists are engaging it, and they use it to justify
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: the obvious fact that the dynamic between men and women
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: looks nothing like oppression, just doesn't.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's play some more.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so, this is this whole series is
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: basically or this show. The theme of the show is
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: same as it ever was, same as it ever was.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: That's basically what you're gonna see is like you're gonna
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: see you're like, oh, they do that today, Yeah, because
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: it hasn't really changed.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: All right, So let's place.
• 31:05
  Speaker 12: Part it owes its renewed birth to the civil rights movement,
• 31:10
  Speaker 12: because there was then a lesson for the women of
• 31:13
  Speaker 12: America of how blacks at that time were taking their
• 31:17
  Speaker 12: life into their own hands.
• 31:18
  Speaker 13: My bacon?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Ready? Yet?
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: You mean you could appropriate the history of suffering of
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: another group of people and pretend that you experienced the
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: same thing because apparently your husband ask you for baking,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: so for a bait for bacon?
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: Do you know what?
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Here's the problem? Whose money is earning the bacon? Like? Literally,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: you understand that slaves create the material wealth for their
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: masters and mistresses, Like this is this is not slavery
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: and this and this is what's so freaking freaking hell.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: How did they get away with it? How did this
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: woman go up and say, yeah, this is slavery. It
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: is not slavery. It is not slavery. It is a
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: symbiotic relationship in which you get a roof over your
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: head and food and the freedom to raise your children
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: in a house that, no doubt the labors who run
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: it has been reduced to a part time job from
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: a full time job seven days a week, you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: and you call that slavery literally literally, this woman, as
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: a homemaker in this time period, went from a job
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: that was twelve hours a day, six days a week
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: to a job that was three hours a day, five
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: days a week because that man purchased mechanical labor to
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: serve her. And she's calling that slavery. His job didn't
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: decrease in the length of time he has to go
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: to work, didn't decrease in that amount of time. Can
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: you believe the audacity? And then they say, oh, yeah,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: this is equivalent to the history is slavery with black
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: people and white people in the No, it isn't. In
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: no freaking universe. You should have been laughed off the set.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Why were these women allowed to make this comparison? Why
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: were they allowed to assert this? Why were they allowed
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: to appropriate the suffering of actually oppressed people in the
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: past and compare this to that. And you know why
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: they were allowed because people listened. You know why they
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: listened because people are do not want to see women suffer.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: So women can go out and claim suffering and people
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: will be like, oh, I didn't know. Their brains turn off,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: their rational faculties turn off, and everybody tunes themselves to saying, oh,
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: we got to remove that's suffering. Wait, like, literally, she
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: has a three hour a day job. He still has,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: He still is working eight to ten hours a day
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: in order to pay for her to have additional leisure time.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: In no universe did slaves. Did the slave mistress or
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: master work eight to ten hours a day so the
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: slave could have five more hours of or nine more
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: hours of leisure time? Like what the like I said
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: before men made it so that women had more leisure
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: time than any group of people in human history in
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: the fifties and women have never forgiven them for it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, okay, sorry.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Pro Oh no, it's okay.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: So this is a clip from like a show, So
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: this is completely fictional. Yet another throwback thing, another example
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: of same as it ever was. Because feminist to day,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: when they want to make arguments, they reference fiction. That's
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: why they're always making references to pop culture stuff because
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: it's not real and it's actually created by people who
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: agree with them, like on these topics.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: So it's a really easy cherry pick. It's almost the same.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: It's exactly the same thing that happens in academia where
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: feminists all reference each other and they use each other
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: as proof of the things that they claim because look,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: it's consensus. All of my gender studies professors agree. It's
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the same. It's like it's consensus all of the Hollywood
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: people are making the content that agrees with my positions
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: because those people also agree with my positions. So we're
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: seeing something that is like literally doesn't happen, and they're
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: using it as evidence of something.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: So let's let's listen to it. Let's watch the clip.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of them because they love using this stuff.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: It's more toast pin.
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: Hey Pye, why don't you get cracking on us all
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: house cleaning campaign around here?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Get the floors wax, get the windows washed.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: Get this place looking as if civilized people are in residence.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: So this guy's basically a bit of.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: An asshole, but they're making him into one. But I mean,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: go ahead, let's be frank.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, who purchased the wonderful kitchen that she uses
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: that has reduced her labor from twelve hours a day,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: six days a week to three hours a day, five
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: days a week. You know who purchases the utilities, the
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: lighting that used to be something that women had to do.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Central heating. Women actually had to cut wood or at
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: least gather kindling. Right, laundry, women had to beat shirts
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: out on rocks and streams, or they had to use
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: the ringer when they had that, Like all of these things,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: massive labor reductions, right, and that was paid for by him.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: This is not slavery. This is resentment. This is creating resentment.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, the purpose of it. It's the purpose of it.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, I got a super child from Richard Pierre for
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: five bucks. Thank you, Richard, And says there's a bulldozer
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: that sits on a property outside of Philadelphia, Mississippi that
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: has been ordered by a judge to never be allowed
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to be moved from that spot because it was used
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: in the covering up of the murder of civil rights workers.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: The movie Mississippi Burning was made about that incident, Thank you, Richard.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: How many of those were men? Many? All right? Probably most?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, Yes. The funny thing is that when you talk
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: about lynching victims, there was a significant portion of them
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: who were immigrants like Italians and Irish and other things,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: but almost all of them, like ninety nine point nine
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: percent of them were men.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Mm hm, oh yeah, for sure, for sure. That's what
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Like you know, when you when you speak in terms
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: of like race or whatever, it just it just serves
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: to conceal, like the reality is that it's almost all men,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: like in almost every case, and so like it's hard.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: It makes it harder for me to.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Talk about men's issues because people are distracted by other stuff.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You know, Oh they were gay, they were black or whatever.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, but they were men. Like how many
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: lesbians got lynched, you know, not many, so I think.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I mean even in the Middle East, like the people
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: who usually you know, when they talk about what happens
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: to like, you know, gay people the Middle East, it's
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the men that they that they kill, I mean, not
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the women. They basically just tell the women, you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: stop doing that, go get married to a dude and
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: have kids, Like, stop stop pretending to be lesbian. I mean,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: sure that's offensive, but you're not. They're not throwing you
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: off a rooftop.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the whole thing with the Taliban, Like
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: somebody is getting on me in the Taliban. Well, first
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: of all, the Taliban is a huge outlier in terms
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: of societies because, honestly, I think it's more what a
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: culture becomes when it turns itself into something that is
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: purely militaristic in order to resist invaders. So what happens
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: is women end up being stuck in logistics and child
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: rearing and men are cannon fodder. Like literally, if Afghan
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: women became men tomorrow, three to five times more of
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: them would be dead. Okay, how is that a better situation? Yeah,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: it sucks. You know why it sucks because peaceful, prosperous,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: productive communities are able to afford more freedom for their women.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: When they cease to be peaceful, productive, and prosperous, then
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: women have to be restricted for the simple fact as
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: you're trying to keep them alive. Right, if you want
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: this place to improve, stop invading it, stop destroying it,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: let it, let it evolve on its own. And and
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: it's like, I am not going to sit here and
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: say that a situation if you put women in the
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: situation of men in Afghanistan, they would die five three
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: to five torns more often. Is an improvement? Is that
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: an improvement? Like, honestly, if you people who are looking
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: at the situation of women in the in Afghanistan, you
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: tell me that that's an improvement. Dying three to five
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: times more? Is that an improvement? Mm hmm, No, it
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: isn't by no metric.
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: Is it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 14: All right?
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Let's keep going.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: Sorry, I read it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Sweetie, have a little more.
• 40:44
  Speaker 11: Damn some pumperserse.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: That's it, that's all would happened.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: And to see that she's upset and and that's it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: It's funny because again they're appealing to the thing that
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: they claim doesn't exist. They show her reaction to his comment,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: which I didn't really quite get, but I guess it
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: was hurtful and that we're supposed to resonate with her feelings,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: but we don't care about women. But like, why would
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: you use that tool then if it doesn't work.
• 41:22
  Speaker 14: At last year, women, God, both here, but we just.
• 41:28
  Speaker 15: Sat on dusty shelves because we never helped ourselves.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Men. Wait, wait, wait, you gotta listen to the rest.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: This is cringe, man, this is awful. Okay, Harry, men.
• 41:45
  Speaker 14: Can still be breathe But what is she a servant
• 41:51
  Speaker 14: with no pay for life just so he can stay alive?
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Status symbol with a ring.
• 42:03
  Speaker 14: Tell me what that's break a go ride to bear
• 42:09
  Speaker 14: his kids while race?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, men go and like bang other chicks.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, go back there a bit where Okay, look
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: look at actually look at the video that they're using.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Video.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: No, not just that, watch it, watch it carefully, all right,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: he's resisting.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I guess so, I mean they don't care
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: about that, Allison.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: This is this is this is actual sexual assault. Okay, So, uh,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: you are oppressed by the fact that your husbands get
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: sexually assaulted? Yeah, Like, couldn't you have used video in
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: which he was a consenting partner? Like why would you
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: use this? And then be like, oh my god, look
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: at him, like are you freaking kidding me? There has
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: to if we let's do a gender swap here, Okay,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: a husband's talking or men are talking about how women
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: just they're disloyal and they can't be faithful. And they
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: show a video of a woman being sexually assaulted. Look
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: at that, Look at her. She can't be faithful. Yeah,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: she's being forced. This is exactly the same attitude. Like
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: and the funny thing is is they could have chosen
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: something that showed a consensual situation, but they didn't. Why
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: is that why the oversight? Like this is literally a.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Guy pray Harris. Yeah, maybe they think it's funny.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: But the but literally they're showing a guy being preyed
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: on and saying this is his fault and it's evidence
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: of all men, all men.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: What I would get I would gander would uh. I
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: would bet that this clip this is from an older film,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: maybe even a silent film, like a very early film.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I bet the woman on this is an empowered, independent
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: flapper girl character. Like I bet that that's a feminist
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: woman that's being sexually aggressive, because that was like a
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: big thing in the twenties and thirties was that women
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: were you know, like there was like a different there
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: was another kind of I don't know, like well, it
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: was like a feminist movement that was going on, but
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: it was more like a you know, like a.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Sexual revolution thing that was happening around that time.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So I bet I bet that because that was the
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Flapper Girls was like a very controversial thing in the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: in the twenties and thirties.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: But anyway, let's let's hear the rest of the song.
• 44:33
  Speaker 15: No, they stop, what the fuck?
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Men have made a mess of things. They should be
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: stopped by now.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile showing women using all of the labored saving devices
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: invented by men that took their job from twelve hours
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: a day to three. Oh boy, men made a mess
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: of things, all right, They certainly did. They unleashed the
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: principle of idle hands or a devil's playground.
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: Apparently.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: How did people fall for this back then?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think they did, Like.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's still it seemed to have gone through.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, it eventually did. But my father went
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: he was tangentially part of the feminist movement because my
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: mother was a big feminist in the seventies. He said
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: that when they were doing this stuff, most people didn't
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: believe that men oppressed women. They'd laugh at it. They
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: didn't believe it like it was like, uh no, but
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: that generation died and probably the reason why they didn't
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: believe it because because they knew who was dying in war,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: they knew they act actually had met and lost male
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: loved ones and setting up the culture.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny too because like you know, oh, well
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: what year, what deck are we talking about? The sixties
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: because we have Vietnam. Yeah, like we like Vietnam was
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: going on. I don't know about the seventies, there were
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: definitely war yeah, and.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cold War there was when it's a lot
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: more salient that men might have to give their lives,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: make the ultimate sacrifice to keep society going, to protect society,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: I guess the idea that women are oppressed isn't as
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: strong a sel mm hmm, even though we still have
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: a similar situation today, Like it's it's still an issue,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: like men will be put in the front lines if
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: and when politicians deem it necessary to protect society, and
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: there will be a whole bunch of people shaming men
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: into that role, into sacrificing everything that they are for
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: somebody else mhm. And and you know, and that will happen,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Like the underlying condition has not changed. Look at what
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: happened in the Ukraine. Men are legally unable to leave
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: the country if they're of military age. Yeah, and it's
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: it is, like, it's Ridiculous's absolutely in my opinion, it's
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: absolutely ridiculous to be in a society that can count
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: its survival and protection and also its infrastructure and many
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: of its larger building projects in the lives of men,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: and then assert that that society oppresses women. You have
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: to literally not care about the lives of men to
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: assert that.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: And it's funny how in the song when they talk
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: about how men are free and they show a guy working.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: What he's doing.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like when he's just on the phone with friends, Like,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: what are you talking about?
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I thought that's wage slavery.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Well, it is when women have to do it, but
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: it's also liberty.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't. I can't with all this.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: In nineteen seventy, America was still very much a man's world.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: More women than ever were joining the workforce, but at
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: the same time they were still expected to be the
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: traditional housewives and mothers of a generation earlier. In some states,
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: women could not obtain credit cards or mortgages without a
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: male co signer, and nationally they were paid an average
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: to pay for it.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Men were responsible for women's credit, so yeah.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Like literally men were legally expected to pay for the
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: credit like men were legally expected to pay. That is
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: in law for women's debts, right, So if she took
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: on a debt, they wanted to know the man who
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: was legally responsible for her debt could pay it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Also, same as it ever was the same argument as
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: ever was, Hey, they're going to mention the pay gap,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: and it's a bigger gap in this video, because I
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: guess back then it was worse. But the other thing
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: that's worth mentioning is that when women enter the workforce,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: they literally drove up the cost of living for everybody,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: so they made things worse in a way.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: Okay, so fifty nine cents.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: What I'm just looking at the Vietnam War, just checking
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: on the Oh yeah, so falls igne April thirtieth to
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: nineteen seventy five, so I think it was still on
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: in the seventies, so men were still being expected to
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: go and die in foreign wars to protect American interests.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: And don't give me this bullshit that women don't vote
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: in wars. They were the majority voters at the time.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: They became the majority voters in the sixties. So if
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: we went to Vietnam, if we went to war in Vietnam,
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: that's on women because they were the majority voters in
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties up to today. They were
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: voting for the men who are sending these men to
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: war for their own interests. And part of the interest
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: is is that people keep using the American dollar, which
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: then puts as the world reserve currency, which then puts
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: the US in a uniquely beneficial position to purchase goods.
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: From other countries.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: So this was directly beneficial to American women. Right, These
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: wars directly benefit American women, and they vote for politicians
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: who keep getting us into them. And when we see
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: the war in Afghanistan, we see the war in the Ukraine,
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: you see that. Who are the biggest warmongers? Women go
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: on Twitter. They have no interest in anything but the
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: narrative that we must go to war for whatever reason,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: whatever excuse. Even the Israeli Palestinian conflict, on both sides,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: the biggest agitators are women. Go look, go see who's
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: shouting death to Canada, Death to Palestine, Death to Israel.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: You know, it's women beating the war drums. So don't
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: give me this crap about women not wanting war. They
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: just don't have to die in them.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Well, that's it.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: It makes it a lot easier for them to like,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: you know, agitate for war because they're not risking anything.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: All right, let's play some more, and nationally they were
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: paid an average of fifty nine cents for every dollar
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: a man earned. In short, American women were still second
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: class citizens.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Really, it's hard for a kid. Way, let's address that directly.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Women were second class citizens. So the group of people
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: who is obligated and when just probably not even a
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: few years after this movie had actually been forced to
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: go and fight in the foreign wars protecting the interests
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: of this country that they're talking from, women were the
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: second class citizen. Really, No, you are victims of your
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: own choices. That's it. You're victims of your own choices.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: And every single thing, every single time a woman points
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: to the past, the limitation placed on women, you can
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: see there was that limitation put a corresponding obligation on men,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: limitations on credit, obligations to men, paying that credit off,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: all right, and it is disingenuous. This entire narrative has
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: been a lie from the start, a very very lucrative lie.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: To be sure. Maybe it was in some ways a
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: necessary life, but it is a lie.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: All right, This is Margot Adler, correspondent for NPR.
• 53:09
  Speaker 9: Realize that in nineteen sixty four or five six, whenever,
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: if a woman sat on a park bench reading a book,
• 53:20
  Speaker 9: chances were she would be interrupted, and that the man
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: who came up to her would assume that she would
• 53:28
  Speaker 9: rather talk to him than read the book. If two
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: women were in a restaurant eating together.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Oh no, the humanity, Well, this is the same place
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: we have.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Now this person.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you, this woman makes more money than me
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: and she gets to just that.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But it's just like, this is the same damn complaint.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: It is nothing. I have to interact men. I have
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: to interact with men. Yes, it ever.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Men come up to me and talk to me.
• 53:59
  Speaker 8: How dare?
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: How dare?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: She's basically like, don't you hate it when men?
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah? But seriously, was that really the cry of the
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: oppressed person? I have to interact with with my oppressed No,
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: that's that's the cry of the aristocrat having to walk
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: through a town and see the peasants. That's the cry
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: of the empress when the serf dares to lift his
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: eyes towards her. That's the cry of somebody who believes
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: that they should have an absolute right to decide who
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: communicates with them. No, you don't. You're in a public space.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Men want to come up to you and talk to you,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: so be it.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: You're in more. We need more of that extreme misogyny
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: that's going to be banned.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: People where men make like, you know, the man's plame
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: while doing skateboard tricks.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: This is extreme, are you right what you're saying?
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Paragliding and.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Pounding down a red bull and saying, you know, like
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: excuse me while I man explained this to you, honey.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: All right, anyways, let's listen to some more.
• 55:17
  Speaker 9: It was common for a man or a couple of
• 55:19
  Speaker 9: men to come up to them and assume that they
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: were there to be talked to, and that they weren't
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: there for any purpose of themselves. It's hard to believe
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: that this happened, because it doesn't. And that really has changed,
• 55:30
  Speaker 9: I mean, there really have been significant changes in our relationships.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: And yeah, men are avoiding you now because you're insufferable.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Well, there's been significant changes, and yet same complaint today has.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Nothing's changed, same as it.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Ever was, same as it ever was.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: All right, But that was not true in the sixties.
• 55:57
  Speaker 9: And so what began to happen in nineteen seventy seventy
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: one is that women began to they set up these
• 56:04
  Speaker 9: consciousness raising groups in which they would, for the first time,
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: not be interrupted, and everything was talked about, you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 9: everything from high school to your first menstruation, to your
• 56:15
  Speaker 9: first sex to go, you know, everything was talked about.
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: But the principle was that you went around in a
• 56:20
  Speaker 9: circle and no one interrupted you.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: So, consciousness raising do you guys know what this is?
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: This is a buzzword, This is a this is a
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: comedy buzzword. It's a form of activism popularized by feminists
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: in the late nineteen sixties. It often takes the form
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: of a group of people attempting to focus the attention
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: of a wider group on some cause or condition. Common
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: issues include diseases like breast cancer, conflicts like the global
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: warming movements like Greenpeace, peda Earth Hour, and political parties
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: or politicians. Since Informing the populace of a public concern
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: is often regarded as the first step to changing high
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: all the institutions handle it. Raising awareness is often the
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: first activity in which any advocacy group engages. So but
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: when they do these like sit ins, it's all about
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: essentially creating a sense of.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: How do we put this?
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Women, young women get together with these older women, the
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: older women, you know, bombarding to them with this consciousness
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: raising stuff, and they convince the younger women of the
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: the older women's narratives.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: They get pushed that way. It's the Hegelian dialectic, you know.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: And and uh so you see here, well you're you're
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: gonna see I'll play more. But consciousness raising is basically
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: like propagandizing women through struggle sessions. Essentially, I mean, they
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: may not be like opposed, they might be interested, but
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: this is to drive it home.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: So anyway, okank, which is.
• 57:53
  Speaker 8: Still effectually mean.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: As you know, I really like women, and I didn't
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: like women before.
• 57:59
  Speaker 12: Women were not usually educated, they were not usually.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: Very vital, they were usually passive.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: So I found men were cooler.
• 58:06
  Speaker 16: I don't want to see women adopting a lot of
• 58:09
  Speaker 16: these I think bad characteristic that you should consider masculine,
• 58:14
  Speaker 16: such as aggressiveness up to the point of fighting. And
• 58:19
  Speaker 16: I don't think that we do not want to become
• 58:22
  Speaker 16: that way, but we are in that way. Men become
• 58:25
  Speaker 16: false women.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: It was like a silence the woman that said, but
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: we are that.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Way, yeah, shut her down.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Down a way.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: They're like, oh, we'll just shove that in the closet.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: This reminds me of when it's another same as it
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: ever was when these all of these like protests.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Were going on in college campuses. You know, like I
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: need some muscle over here, like around that time period.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: And you would get a woman that would like basically
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: you you create. You have a room full.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Of of college students and they all want to say something,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: and so they gives one person the microphone or the megaphone,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: and they talked for a while, and then they hand
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: it to the next person. And what happens is they
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: stop talking about whatever the subject is, and they're all
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: just trying to one up each other because they're trying
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: to be the most profound, get the most like the
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: best SoundBite out of it, have the best story or
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: the best anecdote or whatever it is. And I think
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: that's what this does. It's like, you know, yeah, I
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: think that's what's happening here. It's like, oh, let's all
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: compete and see who's the most oppressed, and so like
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: all the women are going to engage in oppression Olympics
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: because they're in this. It's like they're kind of it's
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: like a kind of competition, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what I mean. Mm hm, I think that's what's
• 59:46
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's hear some more from her. This is almost
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: over flash ignition.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 10: It would be like lighting your gas furnace and you
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 10: just go boom, and all of a sudden you had
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 10: insight into things that happened in the past, and you
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 10: were able to move forward with this inside and it
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 10: changed your whole context. And it happened in a group
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: with other people who were experiencing the same thing. So
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 10: you felt validated. You didn't feel crazy anymore, and you
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 10: knew that.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: You are really No, they're not crazy, they're evil.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: You are absolutely one hundred percent fucking crazy or evil.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, how how did these consciousness raising sessions not
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: notice that they had time to do it? Where did
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: that time come? Where did that time come from? Where
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: did the time come from? It came from that really
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: expensive kitchen that that woman walked out of. Who paid
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: for that? The man right no appreciation for that. You
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: guys complained on time bought bought for you by men.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: It reminds me of this a while back. You might
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: have remembered these these events. We went I went to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: the Women's March. I think twenty sixteen, so eight years ago.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: I also in Washington, d C. I Wash before I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: was banned from the US, but I went to Washington,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: D C. And I went to the Women's march, and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: you know, you had the women going up on stage
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: beaking about crap, and the whole march, like thousands of
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: people marched, and I got video footage and I watched
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: the whole thing and afterwards, because I didn't I didn't
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: actually arrive at in time to watch the stadium that
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: all of these women stood up on. They walked up
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: to the stadium to be heard. I didn't actually watch
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: it assembled, but I watched it torn down. It was
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: all men.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 14: Men.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the stadium, the stage.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Men built the stage that the women's march stood on
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: to complain about men. And that does just really just
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: hit me.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: And they took everything down.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: To they cleaned up after them. They took everything down well,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: not to mention they built everything that they stepped up
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: on and complained. It just really struck me. I actually
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: thanked the guy. I was like, yeah, thank you for
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: doing this, and he's like, my job, you know, And
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: but it's like this is the absolute state of women's complaints.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Mm.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: They complain on a stage built by men so that
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: they can complain. These women complain using time, time paid
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: for them by their husbands.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Yep, and same as it ever was. They bring up
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: the past, same as it ever was. Yeah, And they
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: bring up the past and then they treat it like
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: the present. So it's like there's always history, but the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: history is always relevant to the present because it's necessary
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: to invoke history. So no matter how much how much
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: things get better, which I don't think they do really,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: the feminists are always have but there's still a lot
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: of work to be done, right, We still have a
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: long way to go. It's like the ultimate tagline of
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: I will always have a job. That's what it means, right,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: I'm always going to get paid because there will always
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: be something else to fine.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, let's finish this offing tally.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: What you were saying and feeling was the truth.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: And that's when women suddenly understood that their own personal
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 9: history was significant. And that's where the phrase the personal
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 9: is political came from.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 12: And that connection of realizing that the personal is political.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Same as it ever was, The personal is political, same
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: as it ever was because you.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Have no actual oppression, So you have to basically say
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: that your oppression is as a result of your personal
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: relationships that you chose to get into. I am oppressed
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: by my chosen personal relationships. Yep, that's literally what they're saying.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: I am oppressed by my relationship with a man because
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: and again because he created a situation in which my
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: leisure time increased by nine hours a day.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Yep. So that was the first video. I thought I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: had most of the meat.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Now this video is longer, but I think there's less
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: useful stuff. Although I will start with the beginning because
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: I like the bit about the women's role in World
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: War two. So let's look at that because I thought
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: that's kind of neat, because like, I missed that kind
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: of woman, even though I never knew her.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 17: When the United States joined the war, the same appeal was.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: Made, we must win this war, like, we can't win
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: this war unless you women take over the jobs that
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: men are leaving. English women have done it for three years.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: American women are now doing it all over the country.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: How do you like it?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is obvious propaganda, but it's really endearing anyway.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: So that's good, Muriel, you go ahead and drill those holes.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: But I mean that.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, though, the sentiment
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: is what it's about, because this is propaganda, but it's still,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: like I said, it's kind of appealing.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I know, people are gonna.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Come in and be like, well, actually, you know men
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: were doing like well yeah, yeah, we know, but they
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: were like literally the only thing that was asked of
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: women is to sort of help supply men with what
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: they needed while men were over there getting like the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: ship blown out of them, you know, like and I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I you know, it's obviously.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Not a fair trade, but that's not important.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: The point is is that women were at least like
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: expected to do their part, and there was they were
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: encouraged to do so.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: So yeah, there was still a sense of national well
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: it was it.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Was like it was like service, that was it.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: It was like women serving the men who are protecting
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: the country, right, They're dying for their country, and at
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: least there was some gratitude.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I think that.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: And of course, like men were the men who were overseas,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: you know, fighting in the wars, they watched these videos
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: and it was supposed to give them the same. Oh,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: the ladies are looking out for us, right, because, like,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, what else do you have. You're like in
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: a war country. You don't know the language that people
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: are speaking, and everyone's trying to kill you that doesn't
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: speak English.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, anyway, well.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 17: Let's but the temporary nature of it all was constantly emphasized.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: And Lee Dunning, who now wells one landing badges?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 12: And what about after this Warley, Well, this job belongs
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 12: to some soldier.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 10: When he comes back, he can have.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: All that's went.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Jesus.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, of course this is it's kind of Sacharine, but
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: it crazy.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Let's look at the situation when a soldier comes back
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: after having made the ultimate sacrifice, well, I mean, not
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: the second to ultimate sacrifice, because he sacrificed, he did
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: come back, and she's going to make sure that he
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: has a job to come back to, which incidentally is
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: essential for his future. He's not going to be able
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: to become a wife and sit on someone else's labor, right,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: So she's saying, I'm going to that this is this
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: job is going to go back to the men who
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: sacrifice their lives to uphold our economic interests that make
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: the job available. To anybody in the first place, Are
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: you like, this is your oppression? Is it the fact
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: that men get anything in exchange for their sacrifice? No,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: this is the consistent refrain. Men got the vote, well,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: not all men, only men who demonstrated a willingness to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: sacrifice for the cultures or the country, or the civilization
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: the society that had the vote. Those men got the vote.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, the whole history of having influence in the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: government is is the history of franchise. To start, well,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: in Rome, Roman male citizens fought. That's why they had
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: a vote. Right in the Middle Ages. After the fall
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: of Rome. What happened is as as society began to solidify,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: the there would be a levee of troops for the
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: for the lord, and those those people who were able,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: those men who were able to fight, got to say
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: in politics. And then going on further and further and further,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: you see that the franchise, it doesn't proceed. It actually
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: follows the willingness to sacrifice to uphold the system that
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: gives you the vote in the first place. Right, And
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: then feminists look back at that and frame that as
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: oppression of women, because it's a it is and it's
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: not even a privilege in response to sacrifice. It's necessary
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: for people, the men who are making the sacrifice, to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: have a say in how it's directed. Right, that is,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: that is the least you can do. And why should
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: women have a say if they're not making those sacrifices,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: and they frame that as oppression of women. And once again,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: this woman is going to give up her job because
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: she's going to go back to being a wife and mother,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: and she's going to allow a soldier to have a
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: place to return to after sacrificing or potentially sacrificing everything
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: for the culture that they both benefit from.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 8: Are you freaking men?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: I'm so freakin tired of the framing. If something is
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: given to men in response to an expected sacrifice, it
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: is not privilege, male privilege. M hm, it is not
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: oppression of women.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: I got a rumble rant from Nova fan twenty one.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: He gives us a dollar and says, it sure would
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: be a shame if this was the little remaining evidence
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: of a stable society the upcoming decade. Well, I hope
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: it doesn't take a war to do that, but yeah,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: I get it. Thank you for that, because I think
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: I think that there is like the war probably had
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: a large effect on our appreciation for men, and also
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: that just things were harder. I'm gonna jump ahead to
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: because a lot of this stuff is like the same.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, women were domesticated and men were criticizing.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: You want to hear the coffee thing. I love the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: coffee thing. Hold on, let's take a look at that.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: That's a hilarious commercial. Basically, these are the ways that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: they were trying to say women were put upon. Remember
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: this video opened up with World War two. I remember
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: that when we see what they're complaining about here.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 11: On the first morning of our honeymoon, I discovered my
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 11: beautiful bride didn't know the first thing about coffee, and
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 11: I love good coffee. Fis said, this is Maxwell house
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 11: so remember, be a good little Maxwell housewife, and this
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 11: honeymoon could last.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: For every base. We need more commercials like this. I
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: thought it was funny. Now be a good little Maxwell housewife.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Oh man, remember guys died in war so that that
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: commercial could be made.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Let's give her the sacrifice. You know, just this is
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: like make ten years earlier. Just you know, men the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: the D Day, you know, Juno Beach. That's Canadian. The
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: other one, what are the other ones? Normandy? You know
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: the invasion, all these men dying in war. But you know,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: this lady's being judged by her ability to create.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Coffee, I think is a yeah, like yeah.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is shut up.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: But she's being belittled.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: No, it isn't even that. It's about her own competition,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: competitive like feeling competitive with her spos social sphere, other wives, like,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is appealing to jealousy and competition and women.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: You know, it's still we still do it.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: But I just can't came as it ever was.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: Same and as it ever was. I just yeah, she's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: you had to make a cup of coffee, dear, Well, she.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Didn't make She doesn't know anything about coffee.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Her husband had to man explained to her how to
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: make coffee appropriately.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: And it involves Maxwell house. Oh miss he does another
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: another one here?
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: The hell's a men's lot?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Then I know it's cringe.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 18: I know, of course, which would lead to professional employment,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 18: but one would fitted her for that very very important
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 18: career of being missus Bill Johnson.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 17: And of course less technically competent.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a his girl Friday, I think it was,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: and it was in that movie. The basic premise is
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: that there's this real hot shot female newspaper woman and
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: she has a boss who is sort of an on again,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: off again lover who wants to keep her in the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: business because he likes how good she is at it
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: and he likes the fact that she makes her him money.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 8: Or she gets the scoop or whatever.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: And she's left him one of the ump team times
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: that she's left him for a guy who is going
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: to allow her to stay at home and be a mom,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: And it's presented like this guy who's allowing her to
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: become a mother, to take to be in the role
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: of mother, is actually elevating her status, like she is
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: like I am she He respects me as a woman
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: and a mother and a potential mother, and this other
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: dude is like, Yeah, I don't care. You're just you're
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: You're good at your job. That's what I like. And
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: he eventually seduces her back into position of being a
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: news you know, in the news, and it's obvious that
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: he's still going to continue to just use her for
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: her talents and not actually marry her or make her
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: a mother, a mother, and a wife, but that the
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: way that it's presented is that being a mother and
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: a wife is something that is has more status and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: more prestige than what she's currently doing, so she guys
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: has to be suckered into doing the work of being
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: a newswoman. And I just thought that was so striking
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: and it really got me thinking because I've seen other
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: things that sort of indicate the same thing in the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: past of just how much prestige and respect and status
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: women had for being wives and mothers. So, for example,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: there was a etiquette film from I think the sixties
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: about how to approach your superior officer in the navy,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: and it had all of these things like, you're not
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: supposed to do this, You're supposed to differ in this way,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: you're supposed to and this is too like a semen
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: to semen to his like like admiral or whatever, or
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: a captain, right, and you had to adoff your cap,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: you had to open the door. But when it came
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: to having a woman in the room, all of that
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: was thrown out because she socially outranked an admiral or
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: a captain or whatever, anybody, any man.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: They all had to defer to her.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: She was served first, she had the door open for her.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: The admiral had to defer to her, and that was
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: part of the etiquette. So the expectation was that deference
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: be given to a woman over a man of any rank.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: I want that to sync in. That was the situation
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: of women and mothers in the past. They had deference,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: they had respect. They were expected to be treated with
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: greater amounts of I guess servility than men of any
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: rank because they were a mother and a wife. Okay,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: so this wasn't just one sided, which is how it's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: being presented.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: So there was a couple of other examples, and then
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: it goes into a section that sort of reflects the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: previous one. We're running out of time, but I have
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: a couple of things I want to get to. So
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: this segment is about the feminine mystique. I believe that's
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: the book, right, I.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Mean, my husband or myself. I realized it wasn't us,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: it was the society.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 17: In nineteen sixty three, American society was changing fast. The
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 17: campaign for civil rights for black Americans was making real progress.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 17: Women's grievances became another cause. They called for an end
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 17: to discrimination on grounds of gender too. The Great March
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 17: in Washington that year led to a landmark victory for
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 17: all minorities and also.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: For women who are not minorities.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: But also they didn't have the same concerns, Like literally,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: they are conflating the situation for women with the situation
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: for black people and belittling segregation, slavery, and that whole
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: the whole long historical march towards correcting that and in
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: some cases overcorrecting. Right, they're belittling that whole thing by
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: comparing it to women. Every single restriction in law placed
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: on women came with the corresponding obligation on men. Somebody
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: complained about my wardrobes, so I'm putting my very fashionable
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: shades shades on.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's see, let's play some more.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 17: President Johnson, the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 17: guaranteed equal rights for everyone.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: And I looked into it.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: There's really nothing about rights, but this is how they
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: frame it. It was just like he made it illegal
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: to discriminate on the basis of race and stuff like that.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: I think that was a mistake because I think it's
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: it's an affront to freedom of association. I think that
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: we're feeling the downstream effects of that. Bake the cake,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: you bigot. But whatever, it doesn't matter. I'm just I'm
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: just saying that. And again, this was right after Kennedy's assassination.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Then it was sort of used to push this through,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: and I think it did way more damage than to
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: black than anything that came before, I mean, maybe excluding slavery.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 17: With the passing of the Act, women started to apply
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 17: for jobs they had previously been barred from. Telephone operator
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 17: Lorena Weeks saw her chance.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 13: I was very excited. I knew this would mean that
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 13: women could have better paying jobs. I bed on the
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 13: job for switchman, and my bid was returned stating that
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 13: though this was not a job being awarded to women.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: But I mean, like switch operator is well, anyway, that
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: was a landmark until it wasn't.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Then it was like, we need the next thing.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's never ending, It is never freaking ending.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: And also again, this was a time where men had
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: legal obligations to the financial upkeep of their wives. The
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: fact that they had any kind of privilege in the
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: career or in the workplace, I mean, yeah, sure, but
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: they still were financially obligated to their wives, and they
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: were in a way that they aren't anymore because they
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: had to. Like it wasn't even just they had to
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: upkeep at divorce.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 8: They had to pay alimony.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: They literally had to keep their wife. They had to
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: work to keep their wife when they were married. So
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: you couldn't be unemployed in a husband. I don't know
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: how that worked. I don't know if they jailed them
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: or find them, which would have made no sense. But
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, again, restriction on women, obligation on men.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: This is a highly effective means of contraception.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 14: I think the.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 18: Figures currently being used indicate that it's about ninety nine
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 18: points something effective.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 17: By preventing ovulation, the pill let women control their fertility
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 17: as never before. By nineteen sixty six, six million American
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 17: women used the contraceptive pill.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: By nineteen sixty eight, it invented it.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who invented the pill? Exactly?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: Like again, men liberate women from something from a biological
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: or a like women had to work in the home.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: It wasn't because of men. It was because the home
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: was where they could engage in the reproductive activities necessary
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: for a family. They could take care of kids, they
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: could nurse, they could give birth. I mean, it was
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: a safe place, and they could also pursue the kind
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: of jobs that were compatible with all of these activities.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: That's it. It was biology that kept women in the home.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: You got to hear this horror story about the pill.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: They're going to say they think it's clever, but it's
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: actually kind of horrifying.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 17: Almost overnight, long held constraints on sexual behavior could be
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 17: thrown aside. Moral latitudes were changing, and the sexual revolution
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 17: was underway. Starting at University in Michigan in nineteen sixty nine,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 17: Amy Cohen had freedom her mother's generation had never known.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 7: It was just like a new world had opened up
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 7: to me. I'm nineteen years old, I'm at a big university,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 7: and I'm the world is telling me, and Betty for
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 7: Dan is telling me I can do anything I want.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 7: It's like going from zero hard in your mind spins.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: All right, that's not the woman, but I want to
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: I'm pausing for the banana just in case this is
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: I had downloaded the video, so this is yeah, and.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: You get responsibility, but it's all about like the mentality. Yeah,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: is so juvenile.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: Where is the discussion of responsibilit mm.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Hmmm, same as it ever was.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: Same as it ever was.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: We didn't know quite what we were doing in our relationships,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 7: but they were going to be equal. Equal was our word. Well,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 7: one mistake, and you're you're off in the suburbs home
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 7: having having babies and starting.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: A family, and you were, yeah, babies are a mistake.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: One mistake, gentlemen, and you're ensuring the future of the
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: civilization that gave you all of these options in the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: first place.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: Gentlemen, I regret to inform you it was over.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 17: Amy Khen asked the student health clinic for the pill.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 7: I was raised that I wasn't going to have sex
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 7: until I was walking down the aisle. And so there
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 7: I sat, as a as a college student with my
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 7: wonderful partner in the waiting room, and I'm thinking, we're
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 7: all equal. Why am I here by myself?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: It's not good enough? Like, what do you.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Mean you're in there yourself? Because men were like literally,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: She's like, well, why is this a female old Why
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: can't my men come into a female only area?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 7: Having to choke out that I needed the birth control pill,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 7: it sounds funny. Now, but you know when I was,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: I was nineteen, and it.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Was real hard.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 17: Women now expected the pill would make it easier to
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 17: combine children with a career. Amy Cohen went on to graduate,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 17: married and planned her family with precision.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: I figured out exactly when I needed to get pregnant,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: so that this baby would be born two weeks after finals,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 7: and then I'd have a six week maternity leave, and
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 7: then I'd teach a class, and then i'd be full
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 7: time again in the fall I was, and it happened.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 11: Twins.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 17: And though nature could still confirm the best laid plans,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 17: the pill brought a new equality to relationships. Annie Louilias
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 17: was determined to have a small family.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: So mother nature. Mother nature creates a situation that women
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: have to deal with men. Fix it, and it's men
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: that are oppressing women.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's that. This is the bit that I
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: thought was interesting. So this is FRAE. Pay attention to
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: the framing of this anecdote.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 17: Okay, the pill brought a new equality to relationships. Annie
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 17: Luilias was determined to have a small family, though she
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 17: knew her husband wanted a large one.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: Taking the pill meant breaking with tradition. For one thing,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: I would have had or I should have had all
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: the children my husband want without the pill, he would
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: have been able to control me otherwise he didn't even
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: know when I took it.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 17: I hid them so well that.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 19: I could keep on taking them and said, I don't know.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 17: Why I'm not getting pregnant using the pill. Annie lue
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 17: Elias kept her children to two.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 19: It was like stopping the whole mechanism in the world
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 19: against women and against myself. I stopped being subject to
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 19: things and being a person.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: So she used the pill, didn't tell her husband about it,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: and basically just lied to him. She just lied to
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: her husband about like her fertility and then got two
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: kids and then stopped after that, And her her framing
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: of this is not I lied to my husband. I
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: didn't like to negotiate, like how many children I wanted
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: or whatever it was.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: I just lied to him. I use the pill to like.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: Control my fertility, which God knows what that did to
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: my hormones. But that doesn't really matter because we're only
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: learning about the effects of the pill today and I'm
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: okay with doing that because having children is oppression, like
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: on my body, and my husband shouldn't have that right.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: So maybe if he knew, he could have told her
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: to get a job.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe, I don't know. I just think it's like
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: a really messed up way to use the pill.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, it's like a really messed up way,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: I think that I'm not sure that it's really a
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: good idea to use. But anyway, there is one more
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: little section I guess we can get into and then
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: we can stop.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 17: In the age of the pill, and with Betty free
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 17: Dan as their bible, American activist began what soon became
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 17: a mass move.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 14: In the name I'm the Mother, the Daughter, I'm the
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 14: Holy Granddaughter a.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Women, same as it ever was, the same as.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: It ever was, Oh good Lord, in.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: The name of the Mother and of the Daughter and
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: of the Holy Grandmother.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: Oh Good Lord, and again women. All of the labor
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: saving devices that men invented, the pill that men invented,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: all of that is what liberated women. Feminism just gave
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: them an excuse to blame men for it. For some
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: reason that was absolutely critical. Yeah, we all men have
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: constructed these labor saving devices that have taken our job
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: in the home from twelve hours a day, six hours
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: a week, two or six days a week to three
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: hours a day, five days a week. How can we
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: blame men for that? Men have invented the pill? How
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: can we.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 8: Blame them for that? Unbelievable?
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, that's that's it. I mean, like there is else, Yeah, I.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: Mean there really isn't it gets It's like the same.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot of the stuff from the first.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: Video is in this video. You know, I don't notice,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: but feminists tend to repeat themselves.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 8: Of course.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: I mean they've been repeating themselves generation after generation and
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: after generation, and nobody seems to notice. And they also
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: appropriate the very next you notice that civil rights or
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: rights movement like they they they got they got in
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: on the civil rights movement like a dirty shirt.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: And then we're like, yeah, that's us. A history of
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: oppression in which you were forced to labor and forced
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: to to go to war and force to give up
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: your your income, and that's us that we totally see that,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: that's us, that's us, that's us. We were repressed just
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: like you. And now they're doing it again with trans
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: writes and the same screwed up stuff is happening because
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: they're turning what might be a legitimate issue to some
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: degree into a bullhorn and a talking point for women,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: which distorts everything about the original issue. And they turn
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: like in order to do that, they turn these activists
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: into lunatics. You notice that, Like it's just like I'm
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: going to rec I'm going to take the civil rights
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: movement and reconstruct it as a tool for feminism, and
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: in so doing, I'm going to basically destroy black men.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Well not only the destroy black men, but they use
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: black men as tools to get more stuff.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what BLM is all about.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, even before that, when Lyndon Johnson passed that thing,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: they were like, this isn't feminist enough. You know, you
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: got to protect the moms in there. And they well
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: specifically they promote single motherhood, abortion, basically everything that's that's
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: eating and destroying the black population in the United States.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean they've yeah, and it's it's because they
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: want to co opt. They want to get in there
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: like a dirty shirt and they want to call it
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: and they do this with everything. They do it with
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: workers' rights too. I hate to say it, I'm pretty
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: sure that found for sure communism, not the other way around.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Then they consume like they consume the issues around the vote.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: They did exactly the same thing when it came to
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: the vote, And they consume the issues around civil rights
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: and they twist assume yeah, and they consume the gay movement,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: and now they're consuming the trans movement. And the funny
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: thing is is that when these women get their hooks
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: into this movement, they create so much resentment towards the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: people who have legitimate grievances. You know, I'm not saying
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: that everything the trans movement says is right, or the
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: gay movement said is right, or the or the civil
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: rights movement at this point in time is said is right.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: But they take legitimate grievances and invite manipulating it into
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: the patriarchal framework. They actually create tremendous resentment towards these
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: these minority groups in the general population because they are
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: turning them into something they find useful, that can manipulate
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: the situation in ways that they find useful. And then
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: the people who see that manipulation and that destruction blame
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: the minority groups instead of blaming the feminist groups that
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: are parasitizing on them. That's a that's a pretty strong statement.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: So I'll let people just sort of cogitate.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: On that, right, that's all A.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: Women, we regret, gentlemen, we regret to inform you. Okay,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: You might be surprised to see this as such.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: A grainy image for something that from twenty twenty four.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: But it's not. It's from the nineteen sixties and seventies.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's change at.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: All, Okay, And I just I want to point out something.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: For some reason, we can understand why men need the
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: epic of Gilgamesh. So, for people who don't know, the
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: Epic of Gilgamesh is about how uh, a temple priestesses
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: and his friend Kadu took Gilgamesh from a selfish dipshit
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: into somebody who realized that he as a king, he
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: needed to serve as people and protect his people. So
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: that's the epic of taking masculinity and saying you need
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: to use the powers and abilities that you have in
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: service of others. And that is what it is to
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: grow up and become I'm mature man. Why do we
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: think women don't need that? Why do we think that
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: they do not need a to grow up? Apply an
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: external standard of service to others in order to become
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: good women or just women period adults. Why do we
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: think that we can just omit that for women? You
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: just be continue to talk about women's continuous liberation. More
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: shit that women deserve no, women deserve less until they
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: earn more. Okay, I'm done.
• 1:35:35
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• 1:35:38
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  Speaker 3: And we got something. Oh I think we got.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: A super sent one lesson. Did I miss it? I
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: don't see it here.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: Let me see where it's.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: I read the one about the Philadelphia, Mississippi thing.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: It might take a moment.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Here it is here, it is I see it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I see it. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So Richard Bierre gives us five bucks and says,
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  Speaker 2: have you seen that clip of the FEMA zoom meeting
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  Speaker 2: where they were playing oppression Olympics about just who should
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  Speaker 2: get aid for hurricane recovery?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? I did.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, men were actually just on the ground saving lives,
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  Speaker 2: m just like with whatever they had.
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  Speaker 3: But that was this a female clip about this explicit
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  Speaker 3: situation happening or something that they found about the the
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  Speaker 3: her doing a whole bunch of the FEMA director, which
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  Speaker 3: is a woman doing a whole bunch of corporate speak
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  Speaker 3: about uh DEI initiatives.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, was well, there were there was a there was
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  Speaker 2: a zoom call. I don't know if it was that thing,
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  Speaker 2: but I just saw I remember some of it where
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  Speaker 2: they were just talking about like how you know, they
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  Speaker 2: they basically were deciding how to prioritize, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: people who are more or less deserving of support based
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  Speaker 2: on their intersectional identity markers. And it was just like, meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: they were there were just like redneck white dudes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in helicopters trying to save people and rescue drowning dogs.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I guess it's just it's like women
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  Speaker 2: talk about ship and men just get the ship. They're like,
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  Speaker 2: let's just fix this, let's go, let's get it done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's that's actually that's like women assigning where resources
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  Speaker 3: should go is sort of like having control over resources
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  Speaker 3: is like the wind condition for women, and that's like
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  Speaker 3: it just comes right out of primatology. Like females compete
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  Speaker 3: over resources and to be in a position to decide
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  Speaker 3: where those resources go is just like it's it's it's
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  Speaker 3: just the wind condition for women, and that's where all
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  Speaker 3: this DEI crap comes from. It's deciding where the resources
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  Speaker 3: should go. It's just chef's kiss for women. It's catnip.
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  Speaker 3: And like I said, it just comes right out of primatology.
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  Speaker 3: What the two genders want to compete over women are resources.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how they attack other women. You notice with
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  Speaker 3: the ballerina, the woman with her egg apron right, the froggy,
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  Speaker 3: she did the whole relational aggression, but she didn't attack
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  Speaker 3: her directly. She attacked her husband, which is the source
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  Speaker 3: of her resources. Okay, all right, so I think I
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  Speaker 3: did the thing, so I'll hand it back to you.
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  Speaker 1: Brian.
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  Speaker 20: Men's right activists are machines, dude.
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  Speaker 1: All right, wait what happened? Oh that's right, one more time.
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  Speaker 20: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
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  Speaker 20: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to deal with,
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  Speaker 20: especially if you have liked especially if you have like
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  Speaker 20: a couple of dudes who have good memory. On top
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  Speaker 20: of that too, you shit, You're fucked.