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- 0:00Speaker 1: So we have an article today from the Miami Herald
- 0:03and it is by an author named Madeline Mahr, and
- 0:08it has to do with Jeffrey Epstein's New York mansion
- 0:11and how it used to be a school. Well, I
- 0:14haven't read the article yet. We're going to read it together,
- 0:16so I don't have any details to share with you
- 0:18until we do that. But if it's anything like the
- 0:21rest of the stuff that comes out of the Herald,
- 0:23we know that we have a good article on our
- 0:25hands here. As we're all aware, the Miami Herald was
- 0:29at the forefront of breaking the Jeffreys Epstein story from
- 0:32the beginning, you know, digging into this story to make
- 0:36to make sure that it was put into the public view.
- 0:39So I think that the Miami Herald deserves a lot of.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Credit, and especially Julie Brown. Julie K.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Brown deserves so much credit, folks. Make sure that you
- 0:48give her the love she deserves. Make sure you check
- 0:50out her work when it pops up, and you know,
- 0:54follow her on Twitter whatever it may be.
- 0:56Speaker 2: But she's very courageous.
- 0:58Speaker 1: She's a very courageous woman, and she's did great work
- 1:02here as a journalist. And I highly highly respect the
- 1:05work that she has done, because we all know how
- 1:08critical I am about journalists.
- 1:09Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm always willing to give.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Credit where credit is due because it's hard work. I
- 1:16understand how hard it is to be a journalist, how
- 1:18hard it is to, you know, facilitate these stories and
- 1:25make sure that you're really focused on what's going on.
- 1:29I understand that it's a difficult job, especially when you
- 1:32have outside forces attempting to make you quit, like Julie K.
- 1:36Brown dealing with Jeffrey Epstein's people and private investigators and
- 1:39you know, the whole flip. So I think it's important
- 1:43that we recognize Julie Brown as probably the most influential
- 1:48independent journalist of the year in my opinion, in this
- 1:52host's humble opinion, she is definitely the most influential journalist
- 1:55of the year because of her work with this story.
- 1:58All Right, so we're gonna jump right in. If you'd
- 2:01like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
- 2:03Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap U
- 2:08c CI at ProtonMail dot com. My replies might be
- 2:11a little bit slow today because I am I'm going
- 2:14to the mountains in a little while to do some climbing.
- 2:16See how that works out with a broken finger. But
- 2:19I haven't been climbing in about a week and I'm
- 2:22jones in big time. So if you email me and
- 2:26I don't email you back right away today, that's that's
- 2:29the reason I'll be out of service.
- 2:30Speaker 2: So all right, let's jump right into this article.
- 2:34Speaker 1: And it was originally published by the Miami Herald, but
- 2:37that's behind the paywall. So the Herald Sun also published
- 2:40it and that is not behind the paywall. So that
- 2:44is how I'll share it with you. That way, you
- 2:45can check out the article yourselves headline sad and disgusted.
- 2:51Before it was Jeffrey Epstein's mansion, it was my school campus.
- 2:56It was a post I never expected to see on
- 2:58my high school alumni facebook page back in July twenty
- 3:02and nineteen. Oh, excuse me before I go any further.
- 3:05The author is Madeline mar It was a post I
- 3:08never expected to see on my high school alumni facebook
- 3:11page back in July twenty and nineteen. A picture of
- 3:16birth a birch Wotham School with the New York Times
- 3:19headline the fifty six million dollar mansion at nine East
- 3:22seventy one Street, where Epstein allegedly abused girls. The photo
- 3:27was of a nineteen thirties era Beaux Arts limestone building
- 3:30on Manhattan's upper east Side. The majestic oak doors I
- 3:34walked through almost every day from seventh to twelfth grade
- 3:37looked almost identical to the one in my worn out
- 3:39yearbooks from my memories. So that's got to be kind
- 3:44of chilling, right. You go to this school and then
- 3:47you know later on in life the school is bought
- 3:49by this rich psychopath and he uses it to turn
- 3:53it into a house of hers. Epstein had just been
- 3:57arrested on suspicion of sexually trafficking underage girl. My Miami
- 4:01Herald colleague Julie K.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Brown was all over this story for so long.
- 4:06Speaker 1: She sat a few desks away while digging up the
- 4:08full scope of Epstein's sweetheart deal for pleading guilty in
- 4:11two thousand and seven to a reduced Florida state felony
- 4:14prostitution charge, and how the deal was engineered without the
- 4:18knowledge of his victims. Until the arrest, I had no
- 4:21idea this predator lived at least part of the time
- 4:24inside the former home of our alma mater alumni in
- 4:27my Facebook check didn't appear to have known either. Below
- 4:31a post, former students flooded the comments section appalled that
- 4:35their old school was now a crime scene. Pretty crazy
- 4:39how that works out, Huh. Imagine you went to this
- 4:41school and then you know, you moved away or whatever,
- 4:45and of course you never really thought about your school
- 4:47again for the most part. I mean, you did the
- 4:49times you had with your friends in high school blah
- 4:51blah blah blah blah blah blah. But the building itself,
- 4:53I mean, I never really think about the building from
- 4:57high school. Of course, the memories from high school are
- 4:59some of the best memories ever. But it still must
- 5:03be kind of crazy. It's really sickening to think about
- 5:09this happening in a place where, despite a fair bit
- 5:11of turmoil, I have had many happy memories. I feel
- 5:14ill every time it crosses my newsfeed. I just can't
- 5:17believe the horrors that building has witnessed, sad and disgusted
- 5:21on so many levels. Incredible, isn't it where we all
- 5:25spent our formative years. The last I had heard after
- 5:29I'd graduated in nineteen eighty five was four years later
- 5:32the twenty one thousand square foot building had been sold
- 5:35to the limited CEO leslie H. Wexner for thirteen point
- 5:38two million dollars. Wexner apparently spent very little time there
- 5:42before basically handing the mansion over to his financial advisor,
- 5:46Pedophile Epstein for a song in nineteen ninety six. And
- 5:50we all know that he wasn't charged for that place.
- 5:54And we all know when he moved in, Wexner already
- 5:57had a camera system set up and a whole media room,
- 6:00the whole flip folks. When Epstein moved into the Moguls Digs,
- 6:05they certainly did not resemble a staid schoolhouse. Architectural Architectural
- 6:10Digest featured the forty room home on the cover in
- 6:13December of two thousand and five. Architect Thieri de Spahn
- 6:18and interior designer John Stephanitis all but gutted the place,
- 6:22using Russian palaces as their inspiration, preserving the central spire
- 6:26staout the central spiral staircase as the anchor. That staircase
- 6:33where intrepid, read misbehaving students slid down the railing, irritating
- 6:37the receptionist on the ground floor. To no end, had
- 6:40we had cell phones. In that era before the selfie,
- 6:43those marble stairs would have been Instagram central, and of course,
- 6:48the stately entrance also remained intact. Those fifteen foot high,
- 6:53arched oak doors where we hung out after class, avoided
- 6:56teachers and swap. Siggi's images living forever on the Internet
- 7:01show investigators prying open those same doors with a crowbar
- 7:04before reportedly reportedly uncovering naked pictures of young girls. Seeing
- 7:09that scene a picture taken by a neighbor on the
- 7:12same block, felt like a kick to the gut, as
- 7:14if hearing an old friend had passed.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I could get that.
- 7:17Speaker 1: I could get that too, because I know if my
- 7:20high school ended up a place like this, it would
- 7:22make me a bit sick.
- 7:24Speaker 2: You know, you think about it.
- 7:25Speaker 1: You spent some of the best years of your life
- 7:26in high school, hopefully, and you know your formative years,
- 7:32like she says in the article, and you look back
- 7:35on stuff like that fondly, right, you want.
- 7:37Speaker 2: To look back on that and have a memory.
- 7:38Speaker 1: And I drive by my old high school on a
- 7:40regular basis, pretty much every single day, and every time
- 7:43I drive by my high school, a little smile creeps
- 7:45on my lips.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Now imagine you went to this.
- 7:47Speaker 1: School, how the feeling would probably be a lot different
- 7:51now that you know what occurred afterwards in this place.
- 7:54I know it would give me a different feeling, that
- 7:56is for sure. And then the widely circulated clip of
- 8:02Prince Andrew cheerily waving goodbye back in twenty ten to
- 8:06a young woman as she exits. Then the Royal shuts,
- 8:11the now infamous doors, the images of every floor and
- 8:14every corner of the former birch Wotton building. We Birchees
- 8:19have memories of will forever be tainted by horrific, grotesque
- 8:23images of this disgusting man, wrote burch Alum on their
- 8:27Facebook page. Someone else added the ironic twist that now
- 8:31convicted sex offender Bill Cosby lived for so many years
- 8:34at Number eighteen across the street for a time, unreal
- 8:39and right next door to them. Not that he's connected
- 8:42to any of this, I don't think anyway. My old
- 8:45boss Howard Lutnick from Cannor Fitzgerald, he is Jeffrey Epstein's
- 8:49next door neighbor.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Too bad.
- 8:51Speaker 1: I was never invited over to old Howie Lutnick's house
- 8:53for any dinner, huh. I for one choose to remember
- 8:57the building the way it was when it was in
- 8:59vision by Herbert N. Strauss, the Macy's air who commissioned
- 9:02it in the nineteen thirties but died before its completion.
- 9:06Between nineteen sixty two and nineteen eighty nine, it was
- 9:09home to Birch Wathon, founded by in nineteen twenty one by.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Luis Burch and Edith Waftin.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Over the years, the school's alumni included broadcaster Barbara Walters,
- 9:18novelist Judy Krantz, and book publisher Alfred Noff. Junior student
- 9:23life was chronicled in the birch bark Our School paper.
- 9:27After the sale to Wexner, Birch Wathton combined with the
- 9:30Lenox School to create Birch Watton Lennox in a new location.
- 9:35I won't allow myself to wrap my head around what
- 9:37Epstein reportedly did with our former campus, including inserting a
- 9:41female doll into a chandelier, hanging a mural of a
- 9:44prison scene starring Epstein himself, and displaying those famously framed
- 9:47eyeballs of injured soldiers. No, just no, don't forget the
- 9:51picture of Bill Clinton, and don't forget the picture of
- 9:54Gilanne Maxwell ma'am. Despite its vast size, the building that
- 9:58housed birch Wat Alwaton, a private K two school of
- 10:02a few hundred, it felt like the home it was
- 10:04built to be. Unfortunately for athletic types, that meant there
- 10:08was no gymnasium or athletic field, but having Central Park
- 10:11as your playground awesome. No theater either, We had to
- 10:15make do in some kind of parlor or sitting room.
- 10:17Our science lab was in the attic. We ate lunch
- 10:20in the windowless cafeteria in the basement. According to records,
- 10:24it used to be a laundry room and fittingly, a
- 10:27wine cellar. Birchees did fizzed in Central Park less than
- 10:31a block away. In colder months, we were busted to
- 10:34a nearby athletic center as upperclassmen. During lunch, we'd roam
- 10:38Madison Avenue, pop in for snacks at the long gone Cabetaria,
- 10:42tell secrets outside the Frick Art Museum, and lawyer around
- 10:45Ralph lorenz opulent boutique. Despite the notoriety that Epstein brought
- 10:51to the building, fun the fun running wild in New
- 10:54York City, Memories of many alumni remain resolutely intact. Hey, look,
- 10:59I get that again. When you go to high school,
- 11:03it should be a great time. It should be a
- 11:04time filled with memories, building great friendships, et cetera, et cetera.
- 11:09And for these people, you know, the knowing that that
- 11:12this building was used for what it was used for
- 11:15after is a bit disheartening for them, right, But you know,
- 11:20it's really disheartening. And what's really gross. These people are
- 11:24worried about their memories of their building. And I understand that.
- 11:27But the girls who were molested inside of that building,
- 11:30their memories are going to be something completely different. Their
- 11:33memories are going to be something completely darker. Their memories
- 11:36are going to be something that haunt them forever. Would
- 11:40volunteer to take over the property and transform it into
- 11:43a transitional home shelter for victims or trafficking, offered one
- 11:46from our group. Beautiful idea, But Manhattan real estate has
- 11:50a short memory. Neither historians nor experts think Epstein's crimes
- 11:54will affect the palatial building's worth. Because of the several
- 11:58lawsuits against the Epstein estate, it could be some time
- 12:01before the mansion is liquidated, The Post recently reported in July.
- 12:05Before his death in jail, and while he was seeking
- 12:07release on bond, Epstein offered to put up the home
- 12:10as well as its private jets, as collateral to guarantee
- 12:12his appearance at trial. With that in mind, it is
- 12:16possible that the estate could sell the property and simply
- 12:19hold the funds as part of the total estate to
- 12:21be dealt with as the legal battles play out, said
- 12:24New York City historian Tom Miller. Either way, it appears
- 12:29almost certain that the mansion will continue to be used
- 12:31as a single family residence. Here's hoping the new residents
- 12:35keep the stairway at least, well, not one of those
- 12:41pieces that give us new names or anything like that,
- 12:45none of that. But what it does is again, it
- 12:48adds context, shows us a little bit about the building,
- 12:51adds a little bit more to it, you know. And
- 12:57it's it's crazy to think that all of this was
- 13:02occurring in the middle of Manhattan, like this, a block
- 13:05away from Central Park, right in the hub of the
- 13:08upper crust of society. But like we've discussed, the people
- 13:12in New York City, the upper crusters in New York City,
- 13:15they don't care.
- 13:16Speaker 2: They'll accept Jeffrey.
- 13:17Speaker 1: They would have accepted Epstein back again, after his second arrest,
- 13:20if he got out. They do not care, folks, because
- 13:23they do not care about regular people. We are disposable
- 13:26to them. Their whole entire life revolves around consolidating their power,
- 13:34increasing their wealth, increasing their ability to control. And that's
- 13:39all people like Jeffrey Epstein care about at the end
- 13:42of the day. And the people who have protected him, well,
- 13:45they're just as bad. They're just as culpable for his actions, folks.
- 13:53Speaker 2: All Right, if you'd like to.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuci at
- 13:56protonmel dot com. That's bobbycap You c c I at
- 14:01ProtonMail dot com and