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Halloween Week: 3 Urban Legends · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, and we do hope you've been enjoying Halloween Week
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  Speaker 1: with Wikied and Griham. I, of course, am your master
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  Speaker 1: of Ceremonies, Jacko and I will be playing this role
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  Speaker 1: for the next four days. We've explored paranormal murders and
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  Speaker 1: most recently, the story of Mary Shelley, an English novelist
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  Speaker 1: and the author of Frankenstein, who has quite the tragic love.
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  Speaker 2: Story to tell.
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  Speaker 1: But now we have three stories to share with you.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight, three legends, and we want to play a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a game with them. So we do hope
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  Speaker 3: that you're up for the challenge. But to play we
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  Speaker 3: must introduce Thosts. Here they are Ben and Nicole.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? How's it going?
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  Speaker 4: Hey?
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  Speaker 3: Hey?
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  Speaker 2: You got you got that? Ready? You got ready, ready,
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  Speaker 2: ready go. That was a robust chick.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that was a really good one.
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  Speaker 2: That was like spot on, well done.
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  Speaker 4: Well done. Welcome to Wicked.
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  Speaker 2: And Grim Halloween Week. Yeah, we've got we've got some
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  Speaker 2: cool stuff that we've talked about. We've got some cool
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  Speaker 2: stuff we're talking about today. Halloween is only a few
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  Speaker 2: days away.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's on Sunday, right, it's on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: So what day is today? Today's Thursday? Today is well
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  Speaker 2: today's when? Okay, but they're listening on Thursday when listening? Yes, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, that's what's close like.
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  Speaker 4: And people haven't even told us what the ship they're
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  Speaker 4: wearing for their Halloween costumes and stuff, like, let's get
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  Speaker 4: on this Halloween costumes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a Halloween costume. I just clued into that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, because.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going anywhere. We never thought of that.
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  Speaker 4: Last year. We just put our monkey onesies on. That
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  Speaker 4: was kind of fun. I was into that.
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  Speaker 2: We got to come up with something, we'll post something.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like us wearing the pumpkinheads is kind of
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  Speaker 4: a Halloween costume.
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  Speaker 3: Ish.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't even posted that on Instagram yet, so.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you kind of already dressed up.
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  Speaker 1: Ish.
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  Speaker 4: My head was covered in pumpkin goop, and I think
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that was that was put in an
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  Speaker 4: effort in there, that that was that was an effort
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  Speaker 4: because that was actually quite a photo shoot.
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  Speaker 2: That was fun.
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  Speaker 4: Though it was fun, but it was just like I
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  Speaker 4: had to keep taking my pumpkin head off because that
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  Speaker 4: was a lot of work.
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  Speaker 2: Have you guys, done those pumpkinhead photo shoots before? Literally,
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  Speaker 2: you just stuff your head in a pumpkin and you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna love the photos we got there.
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  Speaker 4: They're awesome, awesome.
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  Speaker 2: But we have more fun stuff happening right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited for this.
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  Speaker 2: We got a game.
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  Speaker 4: This is a cool idea.
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  Speaker 2: So what's gonna happen? I did some research on three
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  Speaker 2: urban legends. Okay, not one, not two, not four.
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  Speaker 4: But three?
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  Speaker 2: Three okay, okay, okay. Two of these three urban legends
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  Speaker 2: are true. One of them is false.
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  Speaker 4: Who are going to be bad at this? Now?
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  Speaker 2: It's may not be very hard for people who know
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  Speaker 2: their urban legends. I'm fairly easy ones, okay, okay, but
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  Speaker 2: we are going to talk about them, and it's up
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  Speaker 2: to you to figure out which are the real urban legends,
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  Speaker 2: which ones are actually true, and which one is the
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  Speaker 2: red herring, which one is false?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm assuming at some point, like on social media
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  Speaker 4: or something, you're going to tell us which ones are
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  Speaker 4: which or no, there has.
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  Speaker 2: To be well I'll put yeah, I'll post all the
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  Speaker 2: urban legends. But if you want to hear about it,
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  Speaker 2: you got to hear in this episode or look them
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  Speaker 2: up yourself.
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  Speaker 4: I guess, but yeah, but I think it's some Oh yeah, fine, Okay, Well.
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  Speaker 2: And what's the point of them listen to the episode
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  Speaker 2: if they just see on Instagram?
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's the real But I mean like a week later,
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  Speaker 4: but then who knows. Some people don't always like listen
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  Speaker 4: to right away.
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  Speaker 2: Right, just listen to the episode. You'll figure it out. Okay, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you're ready to hear them.
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  Speaker 4: I'm totally ready.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So we're gonna start off. I gotta scroll all
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  Speaker 2: the way up here. We are going to start off
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  Speaker 2: with the strange story of Elmer McCurdy. Okay, you ready
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  Speaker 2: for this?
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  Speaker 4: I'm totally ready.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So, first of all, imagine a carnival funhouse. All right,
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  Speaker 2: We're talking mirrors and ghosts and ghouls at like every turn.
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  Speaker 2: There's jump, scares and thrills all around you having a
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  Speaker 2: blast as you're walking through, and you come around the
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  Speaker 2: corner and you're face to face with a fake zombie
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  Speaker 2: strung up by a rope. Okay, now it's the same
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  Speaker 2: one you saw last year and the year before. There's
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  Speaker 2: mannekins and props all throughout the funhouse, and in fact,
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  Speaker 2: they were there the year before and the year before
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  Speaker 2: that too. The funhouse hasn't really changed much all over
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  Speaker 2: the years. In fact, it's pretty much always been the same.
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  Speaker 2: So you kind of laugh it off, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: same old, same old, And you walk past, and as
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  Speaker 2: you brush press past the prop, you knock it down
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  Speaker 2: on your way by, so you turn around to pick
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  Speaker 2: it up, and you find a piece is actually broken off. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: And inside the prop it's not paper mache or anything
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  Speaker 2: like that like you'd expect. Instead, you see tissue and bone.
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  Speaker 2: The mannequin is a real body there. Oh gosh, that's
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  Speaker 2: pretty much exactly what happened in the nineteen sixties. A
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  Speaker 2: body wound up in Long Beach, California, hanging from a
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  Speaker 2: rope in a funhouse. Thousands of visitors passed by the
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  Speaker 2: body over the years, thinking it was just another dummy
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  Speaker 2: hanging until film crew were filming a movie and someone
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  Speaker 2: accidentally knocked the prop down and it broke and they
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  Speaker 2: discovered the tissue inside, realizing it was a real human being.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That's urban legend number one.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, but just wait, so the name that you said, yes,
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  Speaker 4: is that the name of the dummy person?
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  Speaker 2: That's supposedly the name of the person.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sorry I should be calling them a dumb but
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  Speaker 4: like the person that was that was at diseased hanging there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently a man by the name of Elmer McCurdy. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: was strung up in a funhouse for years before people realized.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, that is a way to go. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of cool, but just really kind of shitty too.
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  Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts on that one? Are you
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  Speaker 2: leaning towards real or fake here?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, Like I kind of feel like
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  Speaker 4: I want to hear the other two because I feel
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  Speaker 4: like that's fake. I feel like that wouldn't go on
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  Speaker 4: that long before someone realized that it was a real person.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I just can't imagine that it would be hanging there
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  Speaker 4: for like that, like an extended period of time before
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  Speaker 4: someone noticed.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're leaning towards fake, but you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to pull that trigger yet. Correct. Okay, let's move on
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  Speaker 2: to the second urban legend.
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  Speaker 4: Ready, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 2: This is the legend of the Green Man. It goes
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  Speaker 2: that the green Man wanders around Washington, Pennsylvania late at
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  Speaker 2: night and chases anyone who's caught out after dark. The
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  Speaker 2: Green Man apparently glows green as a result of being
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  Speaker 2: struck by lightning in an industrial incident. Holy shit, if
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  Speaker 2: you are close enough to get a look at him.
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  Speaker 2: He also just so happens to have no face, no
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  Speaker 2: thank you. So apparently, in nineteen twenties, when a man
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  Speaker 2: by the name of Raymond was eight years old, he
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  Speaker 2: was playing out side and was climbing a telephone pole
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  Speaker 2: when he was suddenly shocked with eleven thousand vaults of
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  Speaker 2: electricity and was sent flying to the ground in a blinding.
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  Speaker 4: Flash that would kill you.
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  Speaker 2: I think the high vaulted shock burnt Raymond's face and arms,
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  Speaker 2: leaving holes where his eyes and nose once were. Raymond
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  Speaker 2: would become the ghostly figure known as the Green Man
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  Speaker 2: who walks the streets at night.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so he did die, but now he's.
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  Speaker 2: A ghost, so the legend goes.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm just gonna say, like, I'm not okay
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  Speaker 4: with things chase chasing. Okay, Like I can watch zombie
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  Speaker 4: shows and.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff, but when they're walking, it's okay.
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  Speaker 4: Fine if they're just like zombies speed, But if those
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  Speaker 4: zombies are fucking running, what.
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  Speaker 2: Is that that think? That's like twenty eight days later. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like Dawn of the Dead.
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  Speaker 4: I just think I would honestly just give up instantly,
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  Speaker 4: Like there's just no way. Yeah, so this thing chasing,
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  Speaker 4: like I just can't deal with chasing. There's just yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But okay, oh man, now I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: So only one of these stories is fake. So one
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  Speaker 2: of at least one of those has to be true.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, and I feel like they're both fake.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to think all three of them.
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  Speaker 2: Are fake, aren't the probably?
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  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, Okay, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Ready for the third?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah I am.
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  Speaker 2: You're stressing pretty hard.
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  Speaker 4: Oh actually, I'm stressing because I think I'm just like
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  Speaker 4: almost ninety nine percent sure I'm going to get this wrong.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's see if you can go and
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  Speaker 2: get the third one. Maybe might might help you out.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see. This is the legend of the blue Star tattoo. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So imagine you know you're a child, you know, growing
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  Speaker 2: up as as a child, many of us can recall temporary.
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  Speaker 4: Tattoos, right, Oh, those are the shit.
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  Speaker 2: They were the shit, they are the sh I WoT
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  Speaker 2: They're fun, you know, toy essentially, I guess, is the
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  Speaker 2: best way to put it. But they're fun to put
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  Speaker 2: on your arm, your legs, and you know, occasionally your
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  Speaker 2: forehead depending on who you are me Namely, they wear
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  Speaker 2: off pretty quick, you know, a day or two and
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  Speaker 2: they're good. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, that shit stays on longer than a day
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  Speaker 4: or two.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you scrub I guess anyways, Sorry, I'm off
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  Speaker 2: in a tangent here. Anyone who really wears these as
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  Speaker 2: a child, generally you feel cool, especially in today's age
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  Speaker 2: when increasing popularity and real tattoos, you kind of feel like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're just like mom or dad brandishing that
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  Speaker 2: new ink. So it may seem cool. But however, a
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  Speaker 2: scare came to many parents in the early two thousands
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  Speaker 2: when a harmless kid's temporary tattoo became much more to fear.
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  Speaker 2: It began with one family having their son come home
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  Speaker 2: from school one day waving a new tattoo to his
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  Speaker 2: mom as he came running into the kid. The boy, Jacob,
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  Speaker 2: explained that he was given the tattoo by a friend
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  Speaker 2: after school. Now, often the boy traded stickers and collectible
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  Speaker 2: cards with his friends, so this wasn't anything new.
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  Speaker 4: Makes sense, So.
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  Speaker 2: After helping her son put on the new tattoo on
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  Speaker 2: his hand. With a damp cloth, he proudly showcased the
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  Speaker 2: bright blue star as his face lit up with excitement. Soon, however,
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  Speaker 2: things took a bit of a turn. After Jacob's mum
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  Speaker 2: was hauling a basket of laundry upstairs to fold in
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  Speaker 2: the master bedroom. She walked past her seven year old
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  Speaker 2: son bedroom up on the second floor as well, and
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  Speaker 2: she caught a glimpse of him crawling out the second
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  Speaker 2: story window. She called out, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: I bet?
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  Speaker 2: He turned around said to his mum, Mum, I can fly,
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  Speaker 2: as he jumped from the window.
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  Speaker 4: No, he's seven seven. Holy shit.
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  Speaker 2: It was discovered later that the blue star tattoo was
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  Speaker 2: laid with LSD and it had been handed out to
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  Speaker 2: Jacob and several of his friends after school by a
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  Speaker 2: man dressed in black.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that is just terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the three urban legends?
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  Speaker 4: Is that just that? Like? I need to know a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more about that last one.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the three urban legends?
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  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, this is torture.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you got, ah? You have? Let me
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  Speaker 2: recap here the strange story of Elmer McCurdy, whose body
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  Speaker 2: was found several years after being strung up in a
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  Speaker 2: carnival funhouse. You have, sorry, I got to scroll here.
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  Speaker 2: The legend of the green Man, who is where's his name? Raymond,
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  Speaker 2: who was struck by eleven thousand volts of electricity and
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  Speaker 2: sent flying to the ground with holes where his eyes
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  Speaker 2: and nose should be, and is said to walk the
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  Speaker 2: streets of Pennsylvania at night chasing people. Or the Blue
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  Speaker 2: Star tattoo, which is said to be laced with LSD
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  Speaker 2: and affected many children once it was placed on their skin.
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  Speaker 4: That is quite the lineup, But I got my answer.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what you got?
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  Speaker 4: So I think the number one?
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  Speaker 2: Well you think number okay? Sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry. I already like forget their names and shit, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm just numbering them one, two, and three.
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  Speaker 2: Is that Elmer McCurdy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna forget Elmer mccurty. Okay, let's just talk about
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  Speaker 4: Elmer McCurdy. Okay, I'm changing my mind, and I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to say that one is true.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna say Elmer is true.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Elmer is true.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to go through these one by one? Then?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So you think Elmer mccurty's story is true. Drum roll,
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  Speaker 2: Elmer mccurty story is in fact true. Let's uh, let's
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  Speaker 2: tell you a little bit more about Elmer mccurty.
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  Speaker 4: My gosh, okay, I didn't actually realize. Sorry, I'm so confused.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that you were just gonna hold us in
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  Speaker 4: the sense forever.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you a little bit more shit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah mccurty, this shit just got real good.
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  Speaker 2: Since you figured out it's true.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I fail. No one gets to hear anything.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a strange afterlife of Almer mccurty. He
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  Speaker 2: was born New Year's Day in eighteen eighty to an
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  Speaker 2: unwed seventeen year old woman. He grew up in a
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  Speaker 2: as a troubled teen where he eventually discovered alcohol and
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  Speaker 2: everything went downhill from there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh shucks.
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  Speaker 2: Elmer was a plumber and drifted around the country in
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  Speaker 2: an alcoholic stupor. He did get a job once in
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  Speaker 2: a while as a plumber, but he just kind of
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  Speaker 2: lose it and drink and get another job and lose
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  Speaker 2: it and drink.
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  Speaker 4: To make a little bit of money to buy more
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  Speaker 4: booze kind of thing, and.
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  Speaker 2: He just repeat that process shocks. Now. In the early
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  Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds, he started trying his hand at train robbery
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  Speaker 2: and eventually bank robbery as well.
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  Speaker 4: Totally crap.
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  Speaker 2: He was a blundering buffoon at the best of times
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  Speaker 2: with both of them, and was never too successful. After
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  Speaker 2: one particular robbery, he made off with only forty six dollars,
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  Speaker 2: some whiskey and a watch. Elmer rode off in frustration,
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  Speaker 2: hold up in a barn, and drank his sorrows away.
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  Speaker 4: Can I just do like his tiny side out here?
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  Speaker 4: I've never heard of train robbery? Is that like where
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  Speaker 4: a train just like kind of going by and you
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  Speaker 4: just run and grab shit off it.
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  Speaker 2: You've never heard of a train robbery?
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  Speaker 4: No, what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Like a train's going down the tracks and you like
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  Speaker 2: hop on board the train and you gunpoint people off
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  Speaker 2: and go.
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  Speaker 4: Oh like you're hopping on there and robbing like civilians. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: oh shit, No, I haven't heard of that.
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  Speaker 2: Well now you have. You need to watch some some
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  Speaker 2: Western films, clearly, Yeah, I need.
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  Speaker 4: To like broad in my horizons here apparently.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so after his hold up in the barn drinking
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  Speaker 2: the whiskey, he was roaring drunk when a posse from
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  Speaker 2: the train found him and with a single bullet, ended
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  Speaker 2: his life. At the end of his life is clearly
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  Speaker 2: just the beginning of a story. His body was taken
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  Speaker 2: to a funeral home where he was never claimed by
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  Speaker 2: loved ones, so the undertaker filled him with strong dose
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  Speaker 2: of arsenic, which was used to at that time to
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  Speaker 2: preserve the body while waiting for people to pick him up,
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  Speaker 2: but no one ever did, so he decided to turn
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  Speaker 2: Elmer into a moneymaker to get his money back from
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  Speaker 2: the arsenic he spent in Elmer became an exhibit known
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  Speaker 2: as the Oklahoma Outlaw, where people would pay a nickel
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  Speaker 2: to get a glimpse at him. Five years later, however,
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  Speaker 2: a man showed up and claimed to be Almer's brother
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  Speaker 2: and took him away to bury him. However, the brother
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  Speaker 2: was actually the owner of the Great Patterson Traveling Carnival
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  Speaker 2: show and wanted to show the Outlaw's body off in
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  Speaker 2: his carnival as he heard of the success of his
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: body being shown off by this undertaker, So his body
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  Speaker 2: was lugged around the countryside being displayed as the outlaw
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  Speaker 2: who wouldn't be taken alive. From there, it bounced from
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  Speaker 2: freak show to freak show to another, and back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: It was briefly used as a display in a movie
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  Speaker 2: theater for a movie in nineteen thirty three.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: But because the undertaker used so much arsenic, Elmer's body
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  Speaker 2: became the energizer bunny and just like kept going and
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  Speaker 2: going and going and didn't really decomp. So over the decades,
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  Speaker 2: various owners mistakenly came across the body and assuming he
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  Speaker 2: was a mannequin, and eventually he was strung up as
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: a prop in a funhouse where he was there for
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: a few few years and eventually discovered.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I don't love that story, to be.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Honest, that is a true story.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Like I actually just feel so terrible for him, Like
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: that's just quite the afterlife. Yeah, my word, I'm oh,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: are you good? I'm good. But like I I just
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: have never imagined a story like that after someone has
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: passed away.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Well, you've imagined it now.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I couldn't make that ship up.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: That's you can't make that shit up, clearly, because it's true.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: That's wow.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So you're down to two left, the
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Legend of the Green Man and the Legend of the
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Blue Star. Tattoo.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I'm going to choose the next one that
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: I think is true, okay, and that one is the
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: blue Star tattoo.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: So you think the blue Star tattoo is true?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's true.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Drum roll. The blue Star tattoo is fake. It is
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: a proven urban legend.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Dang. That means that I like failed, you failed, I've failed.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Jacob never existed. I made up that name.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: It's very popular scenario for people to say that a
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: child was a stamp with the blue Star tattoo after
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: coming home from school and jump from a second story
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: window of the home. But however, there have never been
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: any proven cases of this.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Well, because I actually wonder, oh man, maybe I should
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: have thought about this, and I feel like an idiot,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: but that's okay. If a tattoo, if you put this
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: tattoo on there, could it actually if it was laced
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: with what did you say? LSD LSD, would it have
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: been like would it be strong enough that it would
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: actually affect a person or a child. I'm just wondering,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not too sure. I don't know my hallucinogenics very well.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but I just wonder if that could even
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: be a thing, I don't.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Know, but the urban legend goes that the blue star
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: tattoos were being used to get kids hooked on LSD
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: and drugs. LSD isn't even an addictive drug, so it's
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: right there, debunkable for sure.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, as you were just talking, I had the realization
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: that that means that number two is true yea, and
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: that shit is terrified.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: There is one detail that is false about this story though,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: so it is slightly misleading. The Green Man does not glow.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's it's a bit helpful because the glowing is
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: a bit creepy.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: That's the glowing is definitely creepy, although I can understand
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the perception of glowing because he does have no face
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: and street lamps reflecting off his face as just a
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: blank skin. I mean, we all know what overexposed faces
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: look like, right so from pictures and stuff. So anyways,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: let's dive into the legend of the Green Man. So,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: despite his horrific injury, we already know what happened to
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Raymond Robertson when he was only eight years old. It's
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: getting zapped by all that. Despite his horrific injuries, reports
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: at the time noted that he was in good spirits
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and could still hear and talk. For the next sixty
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: five years, he would sequester himself in his family home
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, making belts, wallets, and doormats, selling them to
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: rate a small income.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Wow, talk about like good for him.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Right, this is going to break your heart.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Oh great.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: He would only leave his home on walks he took
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: in the dead of night to avoid scaring people with
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: his appearance.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, my heart's really broken. That's sad.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: It was from these walks in the middle of the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: night that the legend of the green Man started to develop,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: when high school kids would spot him from their car
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: walking along State Route three point fifty one. It's likely
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: that the name green Man came from how car lights
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: would reflect off Robertson's flannel and face, passing through him
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and the passing him at the night. One resident remembers
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: seeing him on the way back from town to the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: swimming hole. From the swimming hole sorry and said she
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: was like completely scared because it just startled her. It
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: was not something she would ever expect to see at mind,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: though some people were frightful and cruel to him. Others
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: befriended him and they would bring him beers and cigarettes
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: on his nightwalks.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, I like those people.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One sixty year old man by the name of
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Pete have have lovick, I think. In nineteen ninety eight
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: an interview, he stated that he would often meet at
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: the diner, or people would often meet at the diner
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: he worked at before heading out to try and spot
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: the green man at night.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Hmm. Okay, that's actually really sad.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: That is.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I feel like some of these like little stories and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: stuff that we're telling her a little bit like sad.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeap. That story also goes by the name of Charlie
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: no face, So if you want to look that all, so.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Huh, but I'm sure you're going to put pictures on
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: her instant stuff, right or is there photos of him
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: out there? Yep? Okay, I'm actually intrigued to see.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: He's he's a real person, babe.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: And then well, yeah, I know, but then I was
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: just more meaning like because he wouldn't leave his house
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: and he could only kind of go out at night
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: kind of thing, so maybe he didn't want his photo
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: ever out or something, you know.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, there's photos of him. Well, I mean, I've
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: seen photos I haven't paid attention whether they're real or not.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm pretty sure there's real photos.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Out there of him, and then of this mannequin thing too.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Oh boy.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I did look for photos of his decomposed body, but
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: there are photos of his deceased body in a casket
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: where he looks very much alive.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Huh.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Interesting preserve that?
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Well, wow, look at that.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: So you played the game. Unfortunately you lost. I wonder
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: how you guys out there did did you lose? Did
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you know them all?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Let us know.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I want to know how you did.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's kind of interesting because I was just looking
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: in our other loft across from this one, and Kiwi
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: is walking towards me with like his green glowing eyes.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, okay, we gotta go.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, on that note, thank you guys for
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: being here. Check the description of the podcast for all
• 23:59
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• 24:03
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• 24:07
  Speaker 2: then make sure you guys stay wicked