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S5 E7: Mafia Of Thrones · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Speaker 1: Fifteen de crazy. You can see you breath.
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Speaker 2: Out in the.
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Speaker 3: Lake Effect, breaking tables like Gisar would you.
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Speaker 1: Wherees would you have to be? And do Ron Elvis
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Speaker 1: in the lay pan show the members that you need
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Speaker 1: to know. I st you out here now your family?
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Speaker 1: Where's would you be? Where else would you have be?
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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I am your host,
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Speaker 1: Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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Speaker 1: Legacy Entertainment here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so
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Speaker 1: glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo
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Speaker 1: Bills and NFL content again today and as always, these
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Speaker 1: are my bills thoughts set out loud. It's about so ridiculous,
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Speaker 1: two three, six the show Where's would you like to be?
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get straight to it. Really really excited
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Speaker 1: for tonight's episode. It's funny because you know these are
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Speaker 1: what they call the dog days of summer that we're
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Speaker 1: getting ready to get into and respects the football wise,
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Speaker 1: and I know the bills have mandatory meaning camp. I
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Speaker 1: think it's next week and then DT and I have
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Speaker 1: already told you we're getting ready to take a break.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna put our hair down, go to the pool,
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Speaker 1: stick our toes in and then we will get right
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Speaker 1: back with you guys when training camp kicks off at
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Speaker 1: the end of July. I'm really excited for tonight's episode
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Speaker 1: for a multitude of reasons, and I will I will
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Speaker 1: definitely reveal that in a moment joining me tonight as
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Speaker 1: always my co host writing shot. Got Adam dump Trump
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Speaker 1: are you p c is e y K holla at
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Speaker 1: the crew, DT. We are. We're in the dog days.
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Speaker 1: I mean we're looking for content, but the content Gods
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Speaker 1: blessed us this week.
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Speaker 3: Nichol City, what's up, Rob, Good to be back man,
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Speaker 3: And finally some kind of creeping into the Buffalo area.
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Speaker 3: We got our first week air in the window. You
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Speaker 3: know something we've been to do. And I see my
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Speaker 3: playing golf last weekend, So we're we're getting closer the summer.
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Speaker 3: The boys are getting closer to the summer. Nice nice
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Speaker 3: little mini camp to get to get into some things
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Speaker 3: to discuss and really all around the league. Multiple leagues,
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Speaker 3: and we'll we'll get into it tonight. So happy to
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Speaker 3: be here as always, Rob.
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Speaker 1: Always man, I really appreciate your time tonight, and listen.
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Speaker 1: You know it's it's funny because I always laugh because
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Speaker 1: at the end of last season, we got more reviews
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Speaker 1: about that episode than pretty much any episode from season four.
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Speaker 1: And you know it was funny because how that episode started.
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Speaker 1: You know, I just I needed my mama, and I
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Speaker 1: just needed my mama, and and I am happy to
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Speaker 1: have my mama back. The official Mama of Nicol City
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Speaker 1: crew joining us tonight. We really really appreciate her time
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Speaker 1: and we always love chopping it up with her. The
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Speaker 1: editor in chief over at Buffalo fan Base, the Official
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Speaker 1: Bills Mampaia podcast Network at DT, and I simul cast
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Speaker 1: on the incomparable Mama Monday Robin Monday. Check her out
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Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Robin mondy w Yoh, how
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Speaker 1: at the crew, Mama Monday? How you doing?
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Speaker 2: I love at that pokeshat DT sporting.
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Speaker 1: I like it.
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Speaker 2: I like to tip they had to you. Happy to
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Speaker 2: be here, gentlemen. We have so much to discuss, don't we.
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Speaker 1: We sure do, we sure do. Let's jump right, into
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Speaker 1: it because it's funny, uh I said, the Dog days
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Speaker 1: of Summer because of the fact that you know this
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Speaker 1: is it's a slow period of time and baseball dominates
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Speaker 1: after the NHL and the NBA Finals get concluding in
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and then it's kind it's just nothing.
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Speaker 1: All you're doing really is praying that your athletes stay
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Speaker 1: out of trouble for NFL reasons, and playing that everybody praying,
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Speaker 1: excuse me, that everybody gets along. And then you get
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Speaker 1: ready for training camp, like I said, at the end
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Speaker 1: of July, and the Bills will be back and you
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Speaker 1: have bills will be back in Pittsford at Saint John
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Speaker 1: Fisher before you know it. But in the interim sometimes
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Speaker 1: you're wondering what to talk about and things like that. Well,
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Speaker 1: this week we didn't have anything to worry about in
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Speaker 1: that respect because the sports gods, the Dog Days of
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Speaker 1: Summer gods, gave us some good content. DT. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you've been paying attention or not, Sir Mama Monday.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you've been paying attention or not.
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Speaker 1: But the New York Knicks, one of the premier franchises
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Speaker 1: in the NBA fired their coach Tom Thibodeau to start
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Speaker 1: this week. Tom took them to the Eastern Conference Finals
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Speaker 1: for the first time in twenty five years now. When
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Speaker 1: they came out with the statement from the New York NIX,
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Speaker 1: it was direct from the general manager. He said, our
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Speaker 1: goal is to bring a championship to our fans, and
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Speaker 1: nothing else will do, and he thanked Tom Thibodeau that
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Speaker 1: obligatory thanks for everything you'd done, but hit the road
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Speaker 1: Jack today. I think it was. I think it was
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Speaker 1: this morning. Yeah. Peter de Boor, who is the head
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Speaker 1: coach of the Dallas Stars, for those who don't know,
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Speaker 1: has led his Dallas Stars club to three consecutive Western
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Speaker 1: Conference Finals appearances, shown the door this morning. I guess
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Speaker 1: there's been some riffs and some things that he did.
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Speaker 1: You know, he kind of threw the goalie under the
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Speaker 1: bus and then I don't know, but there had to
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Speaker 1: be some more things going on, because rumors are he
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Speaker 1: knew he was on his way out if he didn't
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Speaker 1: advance to the Stanley Cup Final, and that is why
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Speaker 1: he acted the way that he did in his end
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Speaker 1: of the year presser when he really did railroad and
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Speaker 1: throw the bus over his goalie. I was interested because
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Speaker 1: WGR has been talking about it all week and my
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Speaker 1: ear started percolating. So you already know my guilty pleasures
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Speaker 1: McDermott and I don't hide it. I have been scoring
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Speaker 1: since thirteen seconds and I but it really did lead
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Speaker 1: into an interesting conversation DT. What is the standard for
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills? And when I say standard, I mean
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Speaker 1: what is their expectation. We know that they are a
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Speaker 1: playoff team, we know that they're AFC East Kings. They
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Speaker 1: have proved it now what five years straight? Sean McDermott
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Speaker 1: is entering his ninth season as the Buffalo Bills head coach,
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Speaker 1: followed by Brandon Bean right behind him. I think, I
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Speaker 1: guess would be technically eight years because he wasn't there
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Speaker 1: for the draft and then he came in right after
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Speaker 1: the draft, so it'd be eight years for Brandon Bean.
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Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's been at the Helm DT for quite some time,
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Speaker 1: almost a decade leading the squad. We have enjoyed crazy
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Speaker 1: six success AFC Championship game appearance, we had thirteen seconds,
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Speaker 1: We've had some other heartbreaks in the Divisional round and
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Speaker 1: then the AFC Championship game loss again last year, So
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Speaker 1: two AFC championship games and then you've got three divisional
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Speaker 1: round losses DT. What is the expectation in your mind
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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills and it'll lead to a greater conversation.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you threw that in there at the
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Speaker 3: very end. What's the expectation in my mind? Because I
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Speaker 3: think what we'll get into tonight is how how it
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Speaker 3: differs depending on who you ask what the expectations is.
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Speaker 3: My personal expectation is is the parade, is the bull,
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Speaker 3: is the ring? Is everything? You know, and that's changed
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Speaker 3: over the years, you know, for something that through the
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Speaker 3: drought and in my younger Bills fandom days of not
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Speaker 3: even really thinking a Super Bowl as possible and just
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Speaker 3: going with the flow. And this is football in the NFL,
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Speaker 3: and my team's local and it's fun and and that's
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Speaker 3: obviously changed since seventeen came into the building, and you know,
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Speaker 3: it's a whole new dynamic. But yeah, I think at
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Speaker 3: this point it's an easy answer for me. It's the Bowl,
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Speaker 3: it's the ring, it's the parade. That's my expectation. I
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Speaker 3: have been, you know, happy over the last few years
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Speaker 3: of our success, but I've been disappointed obviously every time
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Speaker 3: we've we've walked out of that stadium or or walked
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Speaker 3: out over waking those Chiefs teams, you know, to end
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Speaker 3: it for us. So I think that's an easy one
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Speaker 3: for me. But as we'll get into tonight, I think
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Speaker 3: that answer is going to differ with who we'd like
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Speaker 3: to role play around.
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Speaker 1: Mama Monday. I brought you on this show for a
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Speaker 1: specific reason because you always shoot me straight. You always
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Speaker 1: tell me the things I need to hear, not what
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Speaker 1: I always want to hear. Before, as we set the
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Speaker 1: stage for tonight's episode, what are the expectations of the
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in your mind? Not not anyone else's. We're
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Speaker 1: talking about how Mama Monday.
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Speaker 2: Feels expectations for this upcoming season.
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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, twenty twenty five. We can only deal with
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Speaker 1: what we've got.
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Speaker 2: Right, and I would say a super Bowl trophy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, because it's time, okay.
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Speaker 2: And as far as anything less being substandard, yeah, I'm
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Speaker 2: ready to start talking about how we have to move
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Speaker 2: forward as an organization past raise the ceiling a little
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Speaker 2: bit higher going into this season. As far as what
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Speaker 2: happens as a result of if if we fall short,
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Speaker 2: does it fall on on Sean McDermott. I have something
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Speaker 2: to say, talk about perspective. Right. We've had this little
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Speaker 2: conversation about Terry Kagoula, right, and then his lack of
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Speaker 2: success with the Buffalo Sabers. One of my greatest fears,
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Speaker 2: to be completely honest with you, is that well that
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Speaker 2: Terry's managed to screw it up a lot with the Sabers.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 2: I'm he got it right with with Sean McDermott. I'm
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Speaker 2: afraid what happens if he's true to form, if he's
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Speaker 2: gotten how many coaches were wrong versus how many coaches right?
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Speaker 2: What are his odds? I would could he make it worse?
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Speaker 1: Hmmm? Interesting, because now you're stealing my notes, mama money,
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Speaker 1: and that is not fair because what here's Here's one
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Speaker 1: of the things that have been percolated through my mind
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Speaker 1: all week long. I listened to w g R. You
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Speaker 1: guys know that I'm an avid listener, and as they
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Speaker 1: were batting around this conversation kind of like a cat
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Speaker 1: with a ball of yarn. One of the things that
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Speaker 1: I keep hearing from fans. I even heard it from
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Speaker 1: some of the hosts in the morning show and the
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Speaker 1: afternoon show was not necessarily that it can't work. But
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Speaker 1: one of the things that I heard was that if
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Speaker 1: you fire McDermott after another failure, DT, who do you get?
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Speaker 1: And you know, for me, that's not really it's not
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Speaker 1: a question of who you get, because I think that
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Speaker 1: there would be a line, you know, around one Bill's
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Speaker 1: drive for coaches that would love to coach Josh Allen
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Speaker 1: if for some reason that Bill's decided to move in
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Speaker 1: a different direction. My problem with that type of theory,
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Speaker 1: DT is that you are moving in and you're kind
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Speaker 1: of operating in a level of fear because of the
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Speaker 1: fact that we didn't know that. We didn't know Sean
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Speaker 1: McDermott was going to be who he was. We didn't
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Speaker 1: know that, and neither did Terry Pigula when he signed
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Speaker 1: him and Adam to come to be the coach after
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Speaker 1: the Rex Ryan fiasco. My main issue, I think now
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Speaker 1: is that, and the reason I named the episode of the
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Speaker 1: way that it did is because if I've got the
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Speaker 1: New York Knicks saying that there's nothing but a championship
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Speaker 1: that will do, I've got the Dallas Stars in hockey,
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Speaker 1: which is a little bit different, but same thing that.
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Speaker 1: Hey man, we appreciate your success. Three straight conference finals,
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Speaker 1: you know, equivalent to three straight AFC championship game or
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Speaker 1: NFC championship game not good enough. We've got to move
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Speaker 1: in a different direction because we need to get over
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Speaker 1: that hump. I'm wondering as McDermott enters year nine, how
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Speaker 1: much longer until Terry asked himself that question of what
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Speaker 1: he expects from this team and what he expects now
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Speaker 1: we all know the Josh Allen's all world. He just
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Speaker 1: won the MVP. Congratulations to him and the new Queen
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Speaker 1: of the Mafia, Harley Steinfeld, that just got married this weekend.
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Speaker 1: So congratulations, shout out and salute to Josh Allen. We
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Speaker 1: know that Josh Allen is great. I don't think there's
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Speaker 1: anybody in the Mafia of DT that doesn't think Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen is good enough to lead us to a Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: I think we all can be in a consensus on
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Speaker 1: the fact that he is good enough to lead us.
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Speaker 1: But I do think that there is a question about
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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, and I've been asking that question since thirteen seconds.
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Speaker 1: I'm worried. And what Robin, what Mama Money just kind
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Speaker 1: of alluded to, is that I'm worried that because the
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Speaker 1: Shavers have been so shitty and they have had such
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Speaker 1: bad luck, now fourteen years, the longest drought in professional
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Speaker 1: American sports, I'm thinking that he could be worried about
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Speaker 1: making a change in the interest of fear of things
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Speaker 1: getting worse. And I do not necessarily agree with that.
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Speaker 1: With that approach, I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: I'm still well.
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Speaker 3: I think I mean it roots back to Tipergoulas here, right.
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Speaker 3: I think there's three levels of owners in professional sports.
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Speaker 3: You have your first level of you know, the hands on,
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Speaker 3: do everything, you know, intense owner, something somebody like a
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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones. Jones somebody you know, very very intricate to
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Speaker 3: the whole inner workings of the of the system itself.
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Speaker 1: His hands on everything, let's go.
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Speaker 3: You know, is in the media, is you know, is
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Speaker 3: a strong personality.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: The second level is you know somebody who's a little
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Speaker 3: less you know, on it, but still aggressive, you know,
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Speaker 3: and still you know this is we're doing this to
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Speaker 3: win championships. We're making these moves to to win, you know,
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Speaker 3: to win it all. And very assertive, and then you
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Speaker 3: have your your rich you're well, they're all rich.
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Speaker 1: But the.
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Speaker 3: I you know, it's just my rental property I'm collecting
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Speaker 3: money on. It's just my you know, it's just my
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Speaker 3: I'm just the side, my toy something. And I think
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Speaker 3: Terry easily falls into that third category of you know,
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Speaker 3: he cares, but he is just it's just it's just
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Speaker 3: the next It's just the next investment for him. Are
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Speaker 3: these two teams? Now what Robin was saying earlier about like,
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Speaker 3: you know, how bad he's done with the Sabers, how
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Speaker 3: good he's done with the bills? I think it just
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Speaker 3: you know, he hasn't the problem is there. He hasn't
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Speaker 3: done anything. It's just the it's the oh, we got
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Speaker 3: lucky on the bills, so we're gonna let it roll.
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Speaker 3: And then on the Sabers it's it's bad, not enough.
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Speaker 3: And then it's like now he's in the situation where
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Speaker 3: it's like, well, I don't know, should we fire somebody?
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Speaker 3: Should we keeping you know, Kevin Adams on board? I
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Speaker 3: don't know, what do you guys think? And it's like
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Speaker 3: it's always that and it's never been okay, this isn't acceptable,
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Speaker 3: we're moving on, you know, we got to do that.
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Speaker 3: He's far from his hands on and you know, telling
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Speaker 3: us about a draft pick that he likes and who
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Speaker 3: they're going after. But he's still also far from that
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Speaker 3: aggressive move of okay, this isn't good enough. We're you know,
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Speaker 3: our expectations championship or bust, and you know, and that's
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Speaker 3: what he's kind of dealing with with the Sabers. It's
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Speaker 3: very passive. And yes he's fired coaches because they've been
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Speaker 3: the worst team in the league and he's had to.
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Speaker 3: I don't you know. That's why we've always talked about
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's we're gonna see that with the Bills,
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Speaker 3: even if we continue, you know, this trend of getting
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Speaker 3: knocked out, you know, in the playoff rounds, being good
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Speaker 3: and getting knocked off in the playoff rounds because he
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Speaker 3: doesn't have that persona, he doesn't have that charisma. He's
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Speaker 3: he's gonna sit there until that gets so it gets
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Speaker 3: too loud to handle, and then eventually he'll move on.
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Speaker 3: But he's not gonna be one to step up and
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Speaker 3: set the expectation. He's not an expectation setter. He's a reactor.
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Speaker 1: Wow, Mama Monday, I know that you were you were
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Speaker 1: gone for a quick second, but you know you heard
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Speaker 1: what he said. I mean, it's I have a tough time.
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Speaker 1: I've got a tough time poking holes of what DT
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Speaker 1: just said. And and the proof would be in the
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Speaker 1: putting of the buffalo sabers Mama money, is it not?
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Speaker 1: Because he probably didn't want to fire what's his name,
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Speaker 1: I can't remember, Phil Housley. They were so bad, and
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Speaker 1: then the Krueger guy was even worse than him, and
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Speaker 1: he had, you know, it was like, man, this I
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Speaker 1: am being made fun of, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: because of the way that I'm running my operation, I
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Speaker 1: have to do something. He was emotional about finding Jason botterrel.
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Speaker 1: I am. I am worried, and I think that it's
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Speaker 1: only I think it's only human nature. And that's what
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Speaker 1: I wanted you to speak to because I think it's
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Speaker 1: only human nature because of the fact that he's one person.
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Speaker 1: You always obviously we know and and prayers are with
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Speaker 1: Kim k Pegoula about you know, the things that he's
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Speaker 1: gone through with her and her health and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: I think that because he's only one person, it's only
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Speaker 1: natural for what DT said to be said to be
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Speaker 1: the case, because listen, I've got one franchise that I
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Speaker 1: got lucky on and and we struck gold with McDermott
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Speaker 1: because he changed the frat house mentality from Rex Ryan.
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Speaker 1: He brought us back to professionalism, back to respectability. And
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Speaker 1: now I'm not going to rock that boat because look
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Speaker 1: at my other team. I can't. I can't get them
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Speaker 1: right any kind of way. There's nothing I could do
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Speaker 1: that get get them right. I think that there's something
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Speaker 1: to what DT's talking about with the type of owner
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Speaker 1: he is, which only speaks to the type of person
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Speaker 1: he is. Speak to that.
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Speaker 2: Who well, type of person he is is kind of
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Speaker 2: interesting because the man is a self made billionaire.
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Speaker 1: That's right, You're very right, kind of.
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Speaker 2: An unusual cat. This wasn't inherited money. This was self
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Speaker 2: made money. Came from Scranton, Pennsylvania, made his mark in
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Speaker 2: the world, and hit things pretty much right most of
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Speaker 2: the way. I suspect. I don't know his entire timeline
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Speaker 2: of life, but I suspect so so absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I know what you mean.
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Speaker 2: Dude comes along, does his thing, sells off for four
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Speaker 2: or five billion, whatever, he sold off to Shell Oil,
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Speaker 2: and he's sitting pretty He made a lot of right decisions.
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Speaker 2: He was lucky to some extent because he was in
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Speaker 2: the right place at the right time, with the right
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Speaker 2: idea of fracking and so on and so forth. So
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Speaker 2: he's used to being right. Okay, And if you listen
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Speaker 2: to him talk, he's the kind of person who trusts
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Speaker 2: his gut, probably takes some risky chances or whatever to
18:34
Speaker 2: be as successful as he is. Most people have to
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Speaker 2: take kind of risky chances.
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Speaker 1: Can't be a billionaire without taking risk, can't exactly.
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Speaker 2: So his track record being what it's been to that point,
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Speaker 2: he succeeded in almost everything that he's done. And then
18:51
Speaker 2: along come the sabers and the bills. But yeah, he
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Speaker 2: hit it with the bills because he got out him
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Speaker 2: out of the drought. You know, all the stuff we're
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Speaker 2: going to give McDermott all the credit in the world for.
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Speaker 2: But he, being Pagoula, is going to have a very
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Speaker 2: difficult time admitting when he's wrong.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I like that.
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Speaker 2: When he a person of his status, every yeah, you
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Speaker 2: want to call it. Whatever stratosphere billionaires live in, they
19:30
Speaker 2: are a different breed.
19:31
Speaker 4: Okay, And they don't like to be wrong and to
19:38
Speaker 4: be wrong, and to be wrong and to be wrong
19:41
Speaker 4: and to be wrong like.
19:42
Speaker 2: He has been with the Sabers.
19:46
Speaker 1: I can't believe you got to be a hit, got
19:47
Speaker 1: to be a hit on his pride. I mean, he's
19:50
Speaker 1: a man.
19:51
Speaker 2: And humiliated at this point, he's done everything but turn
19:57
Speaker 2: that team inside out, and they can't find their way
19:59
Speaker 2: out of a sock. They they just don't. And I
20:04
Speaker 2: could go on. There's one hundred different reasons why that's
20:07
Speaker 2: not important. What's important is understanding that this man has
20:11
Speaker 2: been humiliated to the nth degree and now he is
20:17
Speaker 2: sitting in going to be opening a new stadium, probably
20:22
Speaker 2: coming up on hard knocks here, we're going to get
20:25
Speaker 2: some brand recognition, some nice new minority owners making faces
20:31
Speaker 2: and pressing the flesh with people, because Terry doesn't do that.
20:36
Speaker 2: He doesn't press the flesh with people. So you know,
20:40
Speaker 2: things are, things are heating up there. Why would he
20:43
Speaker 2: even think about rocking that boat in terms of the
20:47
Speaker 2: German Why would he even think about it?
20:51
Speaker 1: Exactly?
20:52
Speaker 2: Just thing that he's got going is right now, what
20:56
Speaker 2: he's got going with the bills, because the Sabers aren't tired,
21:01
Speaker 2: and I don't know. They keep hiring people. I don't know.
21:04
Speaker 2: They've hired five or six different people in the last
21:07
Speaker 2: few weeks, none of whom I know much about. But
21:10
Speaker 2: I admit I'm more in the weeds with the Bills
21:13
Speaker 2: than I am with the Sabers. Understand the Sabers are
21:18
Speaker 2: another whole story. But I cannot believe that Terry Pugula
21:22
Speaker 2: is not absolutely humiliated. He was called the worst owner
21:27
Speaker 2: in the NHL. I don't know if you had caught that.
21:32
Speaker 2: It's the It's been harsh on him this year. The
21:36
Speaker 2: media has been harsh on him this year.
21:40
Speaker 1: Fourteen years of no playoffs will do that boo.
21:43
Speaker 2: Boo, and keeping the same you want to talk about
21:47
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, You're keeping the same general manager that has
21:50
Speaker 2: been last in the lead in the division for the
21:53
Speaker 2: last five years in a row and the worst team
21:56
Speaker 2: in the league twice.
21:58
Speaker 1: But that that dt is my point. Now you're struck
22:04
Speaker 1: on it because Mama Monday is right. Listen, he has
22:07
Speaker 1: been humiliated by them. My thing was that about the
22:10
Speaker 1: one man. Thing is that I think it's only natural
22:14
Speaker 1: that it bleeds over that they bleed. They are one.
22:17
Speaker 1: You know what, Remember they came up with that one
22:19
Speaker 1: campaign back in the day when Kim Bagoula came out
22:21
Speaker 1: and she said one buffalo and they got different things
22:23
Speaker 1: like that. DT. I am worried. I am worried that
22:27
Speaker 1: the sabers are paralyzing the Bills. And I can explain
22:30
Speaker 1: that because I know that everybody on Twitter and I'm like,
22:33
Speaker 1: oh my god, you said the Bills are being paralyzed.
22:35
Speaker 1: Look at all the success we've already talked about a DT.
22:38
Speaker 1: It's time to elevate our expectations. It's okay to elevate
22:43
Speaker 1: our standards. This is professional sports, by the way, the
22:46
Speaker 1: goal is to win a championship. When you have an
22:48
Speaker 1: all world quarterback like Josh Allen, my number one greatest
22:52
Speaker 1: fear DT is that we waste him, that we turn
22:54
Speaker 1: him into Philip Rivers or you know another quart of
22:57
Speaker 1: great Dan Marino. We turned him into a great quarterback
23:00
Speaker 1: who was undeniably great, and his franchise stood in the
23:04
Speaker 1: way in respects to not getting him all the help.
23:07
Speaker 1: Now I have to shut the fuck up about everybody
23:09
Speaker 1: eats for at least one year. I have to hush
23:13
Speaker 1: this coming up twenty twenty five season. I wasn't in favor.
23:16
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean did what he wanted to do and he
23:18
Speaker 1: got rid of Diggs and it worked. Set the franchise
23:21
Speaker 1: record in points and what did he tell gr They
23:23
Speaker 1: scored thirty points a game. I have, okay, hang a banner.
23:26
Speaker 1: If you want to hang a banner. I've got to
23:27
Speaker 1: be quiet and let twenty twenty five play out. DT
23:31
Speaker 1: If if the results are similar again divisional round loss
23:37
Speaker 1: or AFC Championship game loss, I just don't know if
23:41
Speaker 1: there's going to be more people that are thinking like
23:44
Speaker 1: me or not. I've been done with mcdermot's since thirteen seconds.
23:47
Speaker 1: I understand what he has done for the culture and
23:49
Speaker 1: how he is different than Rex Ryan. I think that
23:51
Speaker 1: he is eerily similar to Rex Ryan and his approach
23:55
Speaker 1: and the defensive approach and run, stop the run, different
23:57
Speaker 1: things like that. We don't have to get into all
23:59
Speaker 1: that because we've done that over the past couple of seasons.
24:01
Speaker 1: My main thing is that if it's the same result,
24:04
Speaker 1: how hollow is it? Because now we are entering this
24:07
Speaker 1: second phase of josh Allaen's career and you've talked about
24:10
Speaker 1: that DT. I'm I'm worried that Terry Is is gripped
24:14
Speaker 1: by fear because he does he doesn't. My money's right,
24:18
Speaker 1: I'm not rocking. I'm not rocking this boat. I've got
24:20
Speaker 1: a I've got a dumpster fire across the way. I'm
24:23
Speaker 1: not rocking this boat. I got a dumpster fire downtown
24:26
Speaker 1: Buffalo with the Sabers. I'm not rocking this boat. And
24:28
Speaker 1: I just don't know if that does the service to
24:31
Speaker 1: seventeen and all of his greatness and what he can
24:33
Speaker 1: achieve that we all know he can't achieve.
24:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll obviously find out. But that's that's a
24:39
Speaker 3: great point because it makes the room for error with
24:43
Speaker 3: the bills way way less, right, it makes it way
24:47
Speaker 3: less because already that bad to the Sabers. So if
24:50
Speaker 3: there's any sort of fall with the bills, you know,
24:53
Speaker 3: then you got then it's like double double trouble. Everything's
24:56
Speaker 3: coming at you from all directions, and it's gonna be.
24:58
Speaker 3: Then it's gonna be You're going to be forced, and
25:01
Speaker 3: who knows what you do then, and you start firing
25:03
Speaker 3: people and bringing people in and it doesn't change, doesn't help.
25:06
Speaker 3: Who knows if we get lucky again, like it's you're
25:09
Speaker 3: you're rolling the dice again there, And yeah, I I agree,
25:12
Speaker 3: you know that that was a good point, Robin. I'm
25:15
Speaker 3: bringing up like because I was kind of talking about
25:17
Speaker 3: how he he gives off like a softer vibe. But
25:21
Speaker 3: to be a self made billionaire, you got to be
25:24
Speaker 3: a killer somewhere along the line. You know that you
25:27
Speaker 3: gotta be you got to be stepping over people and
25:29
Speaker 3: have no regard for human life eventually, you know, to
25:33
Speaker 3: be able to get to that that level and freak
25:37
Speaker 3: people out, and that's that's business. But so as I
25:42
Speaker 3: think he's a passive owner, he might have the moxie
25:45
Speaker 3: that we don't see. But then there's just the room
25:48
Speaker 3: for error is so small because if the bills start
25:50
Speaker 3: to stink at all, you know, it's it's sell bull
25:53
Speaker 3: Team bon Jovi gets involved, you know, sort of like
25:57
Speaker 3: the whole the whole bullshit and everything in between that.
26:01
Speaker 3: So I think he you know, being kind of that
26:05
Speaker 3: hands off and passive and back from what I see,
26:08
Speaker 3: at least there's zero Yeah, he's not going to rock
26:10
Speaker 3: the boat. He's he's going to keep his cash out flowing.
26:13
Speaker 3: And that's a good point, rob It does it do
26:15
Speaker 3: seventeen the most service to do that will find out
26:18
Speaker 3: if it's the same old then no, it didn't do
26:21
Speaker 3: him service. It was just Terry Bogool's way to to
26:24
Speaker 3: be okay with being okay. And in a way, that's
26:27
Speaker 3: you you know, the business has to be a business
26:31
Speaker 3: has to be run at a profitable level. You know,
26:33
Speaker 3: it has to be run like we need to make
26:36
Speaker 3: over what we spend and that's how you make money
26:38
Speaker 3: in a business.
26:39
Speaker 1: In the NFL prints money, So the bills are not
26:42
Speaker 1: holding them that back from that, the bills, I mean,
26:44
Speaker 1: the NFL prints money, so that we're not holding them
26:46
Speaker 1: back from that.
26:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're they're doing that with the bills. But
26:50
Speaker 3: if they start to stink. It's a small market, it's
26:53
Speaker 3: a you know, it's there's a lot of things that
26:55
Speaker 3: are going to start, you know, going directly south for him,
26:58
Speaker 3: and he's going to be in a mode where he's
26:59
Speaker 3: gonna have to panic and clear house with everything. So
27:02
Speaker 3: he's trying to avoid that. And you know if in theory,
27:07
Speaker 3: I think I think his what I would say is
27:10
Speaker 3: thought process. That's the point of the show. We're speculating,
27:13
Speaker 3: you know, that's that's all we do right, speculate he
27:18
Speaker 3: is trying to get the Sabers somewhat decent so when
27:22
Speaker 3: the fall whenever that happens, obviously he is trying that.
27:25
Speaker 3: But in his his goals get the Sabers somewhat respectable.
27:29
Speaker 3: So if the Bills ever do start to fall off, oh,
27:32
Speaker 3: then the other side we got the it's a it's
27:33
Speaker 3: a seesaw right, like we got the Sabers, we're good
27:36
Speaker 3: and and so so on and so forth. So I
27:39
Speaker 3: think his goal is to try to maintain okayness as
27:44
Speaker 3: opposed to focus on greatness. And that's what we're talking about.
27:47
Speaker 3: And that's you Rob, You hit it on the head, like,
27:50
Speaker 3: is that doing the best service seventeen?
27:53
Speaker 1: I don't know.
27:54
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, it's I think it's been
27:56
Speaker 3: good enough, like we could have like we've been there,
27:59
Speaker 3: like we could have won any of those games with
28:03
Speaker 3: literally one player or another. It's not like we weren't
28:06
Speaker 3: you know, we weren't capable and didn't have the horses
28:09
Speaker 3: to do it. It's just in that, you know, we'll
28:11
Speaker 3: get a c in a McDermott. But it seems to
28:15
Speaker 3: me like he's okay with being okay and his next
28:18
Speaker 3: step isn't trying to get seventeen over the hump. His
28:21
Speaker 3: next step is, you know, avoiding humili damage control makes
28:27
Speaker 3: if worst case scenario happens, I can't have my worst
28:30
Speaker 3: thing being that bad. So we get the Sabers back up.
28:33
Speaker 3: So if the bills start to stink, and the Sabers
28:35
Speaker 3: are fine, and we're good. And that's I think the
28:38
Speaker 3: mindset of Terry Pagula.
28:39
Speaker 1: Ooh, Mama Monday, some of these things. It feels like
28:44
Speaker 1: he's stabbing me though he's hurting me because I'm a
28:47
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm buffalo through and through, boarded rays. I
28:50
Speaker 1: love the bills, love the Sabers, but like the bills,
28:53
Speaker 1: ru I mean, you don't see sabers stuf like me.
28:56
Speaker 1: It's the the bills of my juice, that's my energy.
28:58
Speaker 1: That's who I fell in love with the bills, Mama Monday.
29:02
Speaker 1: These these feel like cut wounds that DT's given me
29:04
Speaker 1: because I that is not that is not what I want.
29:08
Speaker 1: That is not good enough when you have a quarterback
29:11
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen, I'm sorry. And if somebody needs to
29:14
Speaker 1: talk me off the ledge, Mama Monda, you talked me
29:16
Speaker 1: off the ledge. I think we have an all world
29:19
Speaker 1: quarterback where in the professor, this is obviously entertainment, but
29:23
Speaker 1: it's professional sports. The goals to win the title. I
29:26
Speaker 1: think you should do everything at all times to find
29:30
Speaker 1: to bring or find a way to bring a championship.
29:32
Speaker 1: And I just wo that that's stings to make me.
29:35
Speaker 1: And again that brings back to the one person. He's
29:38
Speaker 1: only one person. He's got two franchises. That might be
29:40
Speaker 1: too much on his plate in that respect. That that
29:42
Speaker 1: one stings. Mama Monday here and DT talk like that,
29:45
Speaker 1: that's that hurts?
29:46
Speaker 3: Whoa?
29:47
Speaker 2: Well, well, well, well let's talk about how we can
29:51
Speaker 2: cheer you up a bit please. I know this is
29:56
Speaker 2: a little bit tangential to the discussion, but it flies
30:00
Speaker 2: because your concerns about this upcoming year, and you've stated
30:08
Speaker 2: your piece about wide receiver et cetera, et cetera. We've
30:11
Speaker 2: had that conversation before.
30:14
Speaker 1: Going to be quiet this year. I'm not going to
30:15
Speaker 1: say a word this year, but mean.
30:17
Speaker 2: Just point out that one of the things that they
30:22
Speaker 2: are doing for seventeen is giving him a defense.
30:28
Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay, that's what McDermott loved. We'll see the.
30:33
Speaker 2: Draft they gave him a draft, they gave him a
30:37
Speaker 2: defensive line. They get really fast corner. They have got
30:43
Speaker 2: the defense. I think this roster on defense could be
30:50
Speaker 2: as good as it's been in ten years. Really, yes,
30:56
Speaker 2: I think it has to be much better.
31:02
Speaker 1: So you're buying into Brandon Bean restocking the cupboard for
31:05
Speaker 1: for Saw mcdummot this offseason.
31:07
Speaker 2: Okay, because I think that is what will help Josh
31:13
Speaker 2: Allen the most. That's what's going to help Josh Allen
31:17
Speaker 2: the most. Josh Allen's offense did not let him down.
31:23
Speaker 2: The receivers didn't let him down. Everybody a blah blah
31:26
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. Offense was not the problem.
31:29
Speaker 2: The defense was the problem. And when the defense plays better,
31:35
Speaker 2: which it will with three hundred and forty pounds of
31:39
Speaker 2: hank of burn and love.
31:41
Speaker 1: With the Walker, Okay, okay.
31:47
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm telling you, the defensive line is going to
31:50
Speaker 2: be so much better. So that's what we have to
31:54
Speaker 2: look at. Can we build a championship team with this
32:00
Speaker 2: team that we have so far this year? Okay, down
32:04
Speaker 2: to fifty three? I think we can.
32:07
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with you.
32:10
Speaker 2: But I agree with you. The rubber meets the road
32:12
Speaker 2: here because this is the best, this is the best
32:15
Speaker 2: roster that. I mean, they built this one. They built
32:19
Speaker 2: this one to go all the way.
32:23
Speaker 1: I heard that after thirteen seconds, So I mean, I mean,
32:27
Speaker 1: now I'm not I mean, I'm playing Devil's advocate, but
32:29
Speaker 1: I mean I agree with you. I just don't know
32:32
Speaker 1: what they're going to do on defense. But I do
32:33
Speaker 1: agree with your premise. The Chiefs game was not lost
32:36
Speaker 1: because the offense twenty nine points in a playoff game
32:38
Speaker 1: should win you the game. So I'm not going to
32:40
Speaker 1: stand in your way thirty two points. You shouldn't give
32:42
Speaker 1: up thirty two points. I do feel like I do
32:45
Speaker 1: feel like we've done this before, and I've had some
32:47
Speaker 1: arguments with people on Twitter that you and I both follow.
32:51
Speaker 1: I think that we've restocked this covering before. So for me,
32:54
Speaker 1: it's the same. You're absolutely right the rubber damn sure
32:57
Speaker 1: road because I don't have any I don't have any
33:00
Speaker 1: more excuses.
33:01
Speaker 2: Because of there's been more than one set of screw
33:04
Speaker 2: ups all the way along with McDermott. We've seen it, okay,
33:09
Speaker 2: but this has been his first in fairness, okay, this
33:13
Speaker 2: is his first tenure as a head coach. Okay, how
33:17
Speaker 2: long did it take Andy Reid to get the job done?
33:21
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you're right, it took until he got
33:23
Speaker 1: to Kansas City. He went to four NFC championship games,
33:26
Speaker 1: but kind of our point, he lost them. So, I mean,
33:30
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I understand. I have to
33:31
Speaker 1: think consistent, go ahead.
33:33
Speaker 3: But then, but then there's other coaches like Sirianni who
33:36
Speaker 3: have you know, buens one.
33:38
Speaker 1: Light the world to Super Bowl?
33:42
Speaker 3: Because is that because there's some key a prodigy of
33:45
Speaker 3: Vince Lombardi and they're the best football coach ever. I
33:47
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe, but it is it a prodigy of
33:50
Speaker 3: you know, it's just talent. Yeah, I think.
33:53
Speaker 2: That that there's room for coaches to grow. And what
33:57
Speaker 2: I would say to you about Sean McDermott is this
34:01
Speaker 2: because I know how you feel about Sean McDermott. He
34:05
Speaker 2: has grown. I agree throughout his tenure. Now has the
34:10
Speaker 2: has the line been straight up? No, it hasn't. But
34:16
Speaker 2: to his credit, he has not. He's humbled himself enough,
34:21
Speaker 2: and he's learned from his mistakes enough to know what
34:25
Speaker 2: he doesn't do well, and he's hired people to take
34:31
Speaker 2: over things that he does not do well, like bringing
34:35
Speaker 2: a referee to figure out whether or not you want
34:37
Speaker 2: to challenge. Yes, John Perry. Now he's got another defensive
34:45
Speaker 2: line guru that he's brought in, Nielsen. Is that his name?
34:50
Speaker 1: New England. I'm with you, I'm following you. I'm still
34:53
Speaker 1: I'm on the road with you. Right.
34:55
Speaker 2: So, so I'm going to give him this year. Okay,
35:00
Speaker 2: I am going to give him this year to bring
35:03
Speaker 2: the Lombardi home because he can't screw up this year.
35:06
Speaker 2: There can be no thirteen seconds this year. Something directly
35:13
Speaker 2: attributable to him, A big mistake, a big screw up. No,
35:19
Speaker 2: I think there is.
35:19
Speaker 1: There is unacceptable. It's unacceptable in your book, interesting.
35:23
Speaker 2: Absolutely unacceptable. Can't go back and sit and make the
35:26
Speaker 2: same mistakes. Can't interesting?
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35:31
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36:26
Speaker 1: I am going to close the show tonight with a
36:30
Speaker 1: question to you all because of the fact that not
36:32
Speaker 1: only did I ask you what the expectations were, and
36:34
Speaker 1: just to be clear, my expectations it's not as grandiose
36:38
Speaker 1: as Mama Monday's. What have I've been saying since the
36:40
Speaker 1: beginning of the podcast DT, I just want to wake
36:44
Speaker 1: up on Sunday morning, Super Bowl Sunday, and my team
36:47
Speaker 1: is hosting and representing the conference in the Super Bowl.
36:51
Speaker 1: I will let the Chips fall, as they say. Don't
36:55
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm okay with them losing that game,
36:57
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Had the Bills beat the Chiefs,
36:58
Speaker 1: you know mean a couple of months ago, I would
37:00
Speaker 1: have wanted them, obviously to beat Philadelphia in the Super Bowl.
37:03
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not resigning to a loss. I'm just
37:06
Speaker 1: saying that I'm I'm gonna be okay regardless because I'm
37:09
Speaker 1: just gonna be so damn happy because I envy the
37:12
Speaker 1: nineties fans. I was five six, seven and eight Nicola
37:15
Speaker 1: City Crew, as you all know, for the Super Bowl run.
37:17
Speaker 1: I've got scattered memories. I cried during Super Bowl twenty
37:19
Speaker 1: five it's got thrown and mister Kick. I cried like
37:21
Speaker 1: a baby again in Super Bowl twenty seven when we
37:23
Speaker 1: got tour asked kick by Dallas fifty two seventeen. So
37:26
Speaker 1: I just want to wake up like an adult and
37:28
Speaker 1: smoke meats and fry turkeys and do everything and put
37:32
Speaker 1: balloons in the house and do I just want to
37:34
Speaker 1: experience it as an adult. I want to be a
37:36
Speaker 1: grown up. Not a not a kid that's got to
37:38
Speaker 1: go to bed early. DT. I have a have a
37:44
Speaker 1: question and I don't know, man, Just answer honestly, and
37:47
Speaker 1: I will pose the same question to Mama Monday. So
37:52
Speaker 1: you're nine correct? Where on that? It's year nine for McDermott. Okay?
37:57
Speaker 1: What is it? Okay? Is it okay? Is there a
38:02
Speaker 1: scenario that we lose in the divisional round or that
38:07
Speaker 1: we lose in the AFC Championship game where you say,
38:10
Speaker 1: you know what, it's okay, let's just run it back now?
38:13
Speaker 1: You could? I mean, I guess we need justice on
38:16
Speaker 1: it for this damn podcast. I mean you could be
38:17
Speaker 1: the refs sir, you could blame whatever is there? What
38:21
Speaker 1: is a scenario? And again, I'm not asking you guys
38:23
Speaker 1: to go into the deep water with me. Again. I've
38:25
Speaker 1: been done since thirteen seconds. I've been done with them
38:27
Speaker 1: because in my mind, Mama money just to give you
38:30
Speaker 1: and let you peer in. I don't hate John McDermott.
38:33
Speaker 1: I respected the fact that he didn't eat dog biscuits
38:35
Speaker 1: and that he wasn't he was more professional than the
38:37
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. I've said that in the podcast seasons ago.
38:39
Speaker 1: I respect what he has done to bring the Bills
38:42
Speaker 1: back to respectability. My thing is that it's still it's
38:46
Speaker 1: still professional sports. The goal is to win the title,
38:50
Speaker 1: and you don't get blessed with a quarterback like Josh
38:52
Speaker 1: Allen and just kind of him in Hall and we'll
38:55
Speaker 1: just stroll through the meadows. It's just not good enough
38:58
Speaker 1: for me. DT. What is the scenario where you're like,
39:01
Speaker 1: you know what, man, it's all it's it's all good, Sean,
39:04
Speaker 1: it's all good, Brandon, it's all good? Is it injuries again?
39:07
Speaker 1: Because then we hear that together we were at that game.
39:10
Speaker 1: We were at that game a couple of years ago,
39:12
Speaker 1: and what did everybody say? We had to get a J.
39:14
Speaker 1: Klein off the couch. I'm not saying that that wasn't
39:16
Speaker 1: a reason and that that didn't contribute to the loss
39:18
Speaker 1: that they I just didn't want to hear that ship
39:20
Speaker 1: as we were walking back to the car. I didn't
39:22
Speaker 1: want to hear it. Hey is this scenario where it's
39:25
Speaker 1: all it's it's all good.
39:27
Speaker 3: I'm going to say there's no scenario where I would
39:30
Speaker 3: say that, no matter if that happens, I'm disappointed. No
39:35
Speaker 3: matter what the one scenario I would say I could
39:39
Speaker 3: you know, I could be okay with would be if
39:42
Speaker 3: you just went out and you there was some a
39:45
Speaker 3: team came out and a team was super superior and
39:49
Speaker 3: they beat your ass, like the first time we played
39:52
Speaker 3: the Chiefs in the NFC Championship. Okay, but that doesn't
39:55
Speaker 3: exist right now. We nobody, nobody is that much better
40:01
Speaker 3: than the Buffalo Bills in seventeen. There might be some
40:04
Speaker 3: young guys coming up. There might be the new seventeen
40:06
Speaker 3: in one of these young guys, but he's not doing
40:08
Speaker 3: it this year, right, you know, they're too young. The
40:11
Speaker 3: team's not there. And then all the good teams, there's
40:15
Speaker 3: no team that is that much superior than us.
40:17
Speaker 1: And let's just keep it to the conference. Let's not
40:19
Speaker 1: talk about super Bowl because we can have a fun
40:20
Speaker 1: time talking about the super Bowl. Let's just keep it
40:23
Speaker 1: to the conference, Mama.
40:24
Speaker 3: In the so my one, my one answer to that
40:28
Speaker 3: where I would say it's okay, let's run it back,
40:31
Speaker 3: was if we just got superiorly outmatched. But that doesn't
40:34
Speaker 3: exist right now. In the ANFC. We we are the dogs.
40:37
Speaker 3: There's some dogs that are just as good, I think,
40:39
Speaker 3: and there's some young guy young teams that could be
40:42
Speaker 3: but you know that could be good in a few years,
40:44
Speaker 3: but that's not this year.
40:46
Speaker 1: So and as long as it wasn't attributed to Bigdermott
40:49
Speaker 1: that day, correct as well. He can't be he can't
40:52
Speaker 1: have his hand in that cookie jarrerect.
40:56
Speaker 3: Against Kansas, loss of whatever it was, injury, whatever, whatever
41:00
Speaker 3: it is that you know, whatever it could be. The
41:03
Speaker 3: only reason I would say I would deem it acceptable
41:06
Speaker 3: is if you just got out played and buy a
41:08
Speaker 3: better team. And there's not a better team in the conference.
41:11
Speaker 3: So no, My answer is no, there's nothing that will
41:14
Speaker 3: make me say let's run it back.
41:16
Speaker 1: It's okay, Mama Monday. I don't get in the habit
41:21
Speaker 1: of calling for people's jobs. I mean, I did it
41:23
Speaker 1: back after thirteen seconds because I was so upset. Is
41:27
Speaker 1: there a scenario where you're just you know now, you
41:30
Speaker 1: don't sound like me, so I'm not trying to force
41:32
Speaker 1: anything on you. Is there a scenario where you're just like,
41:33
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just run it back after this
41:36
Speaker 1: year because you told me you're further than me. You
41:38
Speaker 1: want a Lombardi. I want a Lombardi, but I won't
41:42
Speaker 1: hold McDermott to it. If we can get to wherever
41:44
Speaker 1: the super Bowl is, this year's Super Bowl sixty. If
41:47
Speaker 1: we can get there, I'll I will ease up because
41:50
Speaker 1: he will have shown me something that he hasn't been
41:52
Speaker 1: able to show me yet. What is there a scenario
41:55
Speaker 1: where you're just all you're all good with it.
41:58
Speaker 2: But let me just say the reason that our perspective
42:01
Speaker 2: may be different is age. Because we're gonna be seventy.
42:05
Speaker 1: Years old, absolutely, and I don't.
42:08
Speaker 2: Have a whole lot of time to wait, I understand.
42:12
Speaker 2: So that's where there's a sense of urgency on my
42:16
Speaker 2: part in terms of if you're gonna go.
42:18
Speaker 1: Go ahead and win it or how much. And there
42:24
Speaker 1: are many Bills Mafia members that feel like like you
42:26
Speaker 1: do in the age demographic, yes, fifty enough that they
42:30
Speaker 1: already felt that heartbreak up those four straight and they
42:33
Speaker 1: don't want to go there and lose again.
42:35
Speaker 2: Don't want to feel that again, don't want to feel that.
42:39
Speaker 1: I can respect that, I can respect that.
42:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that does
42:45
Speaker 3: anything more for me going to the super Bowl. Yeah,
42:47
Speaker 3: it'd be awesome and be great to wake up, like
42:50
Speaker 3: you said, Rob, But at the end of the day
42:52
Speaker 3: on that Monday, if it's a loss, I'm gonna feel
42:55
Speaker 3: I'm gonna feel like I have the last four years.
42:58
Speaker 3: Like I don't think it does it for me.
43:01
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's not that I'm not gonna feel bad.
43:03
Speaker 1: Because they talked about this on gr earlier this week.
43:06
Speaker 1: They talked about it, and Bulldog is younger than Mama Monday,
43:09
Speaker 1: but he's in that fifty.
43:11
Speaker 2: Range old person category.
43:13
Speaker 1: But and they talked about him. He said, he said,
43:16
Speaker 1: exactly what you said, DT was that I don't care
43:18
Speaker 1: about just getting there because it's gonna feel the same.
43:21
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not saying that I'm gonna feel okay
43:23
Speaker 1: that Monday. I just am. I think I want to
43:26
Speaker 1: let I'm like a dog on a bone. How about that,
43:28
Speaker 1: I will I reveal myself to the Nickel City crew.
43:32
Speaker 1: I am still so mad over thirteen seconds because there
43:35
Speaker 1: is no circumstance when you're kicking off to the opponent
43:39
Speaker 1: with thirteen seconds left in the game that you should
43:42
Speaker 1: lose the game, let alone even go to overtime that
43:44
Speaker 1: I can't you know, I'm not over it, and I'm
43:46
Speaker 1: not letting him off the hook. So because I'm still
43:48
Speaker 1: holding onto that so tightly, just get past that. Just
43:53
Speaker 1: get Pat, you know. And I understand that technically the
43:55
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game that was a division run. I get it.
43:57
Speaker 1: We've been to two. But it's the same. Get to
44:00
Speaker 1: the pinnacle and then I'll I'll just take my hands
44:03
Speaker 1: off of McDermott. I can't keep my hands off of him. Verbally,
44:07
Speaker 1: my Bill's thoughts always come back to him because of
44:10
Speaker 1: the fact that I am still Madden. How did you
44:12
Speaker 1: mess that game up? And to hear Patrick Mahomes telling
44:16
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, Hey, Pat, do it?
44:18
Speaker 3: Do it?
44:18
Speaker 1: Do it? Do it, Trafford, do do do it? Like that?
44:21
Speaker 1: It was embarrassing. It was embarrassing. I couldn't believe it.
44:24
Speaker 1: I mean, you play that game in Madden a thousand times,
44:27
Speaker 1: You're gonna win the game. They're gonna throw some hail
44:29
Speaker 1: Mary with two seconds left and it's gonna be batted
44:31
Speaker 1: down and that's game over. And then we're hosting Cincinnati.
44:34
Speaker 1: I understand, we don't know if we're gonna beat Cincinnati.
44:36
Speaker 1: I understand it. But we were getting ready to host
44:38
Speaker 1: AMC champion. I had already called DT and I was yelling.
44:42
Speaker 1: I didn't even watch the kickoff because I was playing
44:44
Speaker 1: the Shout song to its full capacity on my speaker,
44:48
Speaker 1: waking up neighbors and calling DT, like, Yo, man, what
44:52
Speaker 1: in the hell are we getting ready to cook next week?
44:53
Speaker 1: Because this is about to be a glorious I was
44:55
Speaker 1: about to live out my dream. I'm a dog on
44:59
Speaker 1: a bone. I can't let it go. So because of that,
45:01
Speaker 1: I agree DT, it won't feel good that next morning.
45:03
Speaker 1: But I just can I just get to Sunday warning,
45:07
Speaker 1: and I don't know what's gonna happen. I put one
45:09
Speaker 1: hundred bucks on the bills to win, and that's my like,
45:12
Speaker 1: I just want to feel it, man, And so I
45:14
Speaker 1: understand there's a lot of bills, mafia that are gonna
45:16
Speaker 1: feel hollow and and and feel empty if we go
45:19
Speaker 1: zero for five and Super Bowls. I'm just I just
45:23
Speaker 1: want to stop talking about mc dormott, Mama money. I
45:25
Speaker 1: just want to stop talking about this dude because I
45:27
Speaker 1: just don't genuinely think he can get he can get
45:29
Speaker 1: it done. I want Josh to have an offensive coach,
45:32
Speaker 1: and I do. I don't have any. I don't see
45:34
Speaker 1: the path to I think you guys have laid it
45:36
Speaker 1: out tonight. I don't see a path where Pegoula does it.
45:38
Speaker 1: I don't. I just I can't get to it. I
45:41
Speaker 1: think he's the coach as long as he wants to
45:43
Speaker 1: be the coach because for a lot of the factors
45:45
Speaker 1: that we talked about tonight, Mama, I really do, and
45:50
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that you talked about with the saverers,
45:52
Speaker 1: I think I think he's one person, Mama, So talk
45:54
Speaker 1: to it. I mean, I I is, what's the what's
45:56
Speaker 1: the scenario where you're okay running it back?
46:04
Speaker 2: I guess I want to understand completely what you mean
46:06
Speaker 2: by the question run it back?
46:08
Speaker 1: If we lose in the divisional round or the AFC
46:12
Speaker 1: Championship game again next year, are you ready for something different?
46:16
Speaker 1: Finally after ninety years, will you be ready for something different?
46:19
Speaker 1: Or will you just say, let's run it back? We
46:21
Speaker 1: can you know, they let's give them another crack.
46:24
Speaker 2: I think it's not. It's it's that's layered for me.
46:28
Speaker 2: But if I feel, if I feel that this was
46:33
Speaker 2: another bone headed thing that McDermott did, guess I can.
46:39
Speaker 2: I can say at that point I could walk away, right,
46:44
Speaker 2: But I guess it's kind of like what DT said.
46:47
Speaker 1: If there's a I was going to say if we
46:49
Speaker 1: just got beat that they flat out.
46:51
Speaker 2: If there's just a team that emerges that just is
46:54
Speaker 2: so much better, then yeah. But I also agree too
46:59
Speaker 2: with that. I don't think that there is that team
47:03
Speaker 2: in the as in the AFC, okay, And.
47:06
Speaker 3: That's not disrespect to all their teams that just were
47:09
Speaker 3: We're that team like we're is lining up. Nobody going
47:16
Speaker 3: to beat us down. Nobody's going to beat us down.
47:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the defense would have to have
47:21
Speaker 1: a major collapse. I think that Sean McDermott had his
47:24
Speaker 1: worst defense of his tenure, one of the worst. I mean,
47:28
Speaker 1: obviously the first year that doesn't really count for me,
47:31
Speaker 1: when we went to Jacksonville and broke the drought, but
47:33
Speaker 1: after he started getting his pieces in, I think that
47:35
Speaker 1: last year's defense was one of the worst defenses he
47:37
Speaker 1: had with the Bills, and they were still top ten
47:40
Speaker 1: or eleven whatever it was when DVOA. I do agree
47:43
Speaker 1: with with Mama Monday that the AFC Championship game was
47:47
Speaker 1: on the defense more than it was the offense. I
47:50
Speaker 1: do know that a guilty thing that we don't like
47:53
Speaker 1: to really talk about is that for the past two postseasons,
47:56
Speaker 1: Josh did have the ball with a chance to go
47:58
Speaker 1: win it. I know that that's not I'm not taking
48:00
Speaker 1: a shot at Josh Bill's obviously, don't crucify me. I'm
48:04
Speaker 1: just stating the facts that we had the ball the
48:06
Speaker 1: first time. DT and I were there together watching the
48:09
Speaker 1: game unfold at the Ralph, and we had a chance,
48:13
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, and it didn't work out,
48:15
Speaker 1: what the case may be, And then last year the
48:17
Speaker 1: same thing in Kansas, it just didn't work out. So
48:20
Speaker 1: I agree with you both in that respect, and I
48:23
Speaker 1: will agree with you, mama that the defense was the
48:25
Speaker 1: problem when it came to the playoffs. I think you
48:28
Speaker 1: have more confidence than me that this is this is
48:30
Speaker 1: getting ready to be fixed, because I think that we
48:33
Speaker 1: have we have filled the cover, We have restocked the
48:36
Speaker 1: cover for McDermott before, and it didn't work. Now, some
48:39
Speaker 1: of it's unfortunate, some of it's luck Von Miller goes
48:41
Speaker 1: down in Detroit. You can't you can't really you can't
48:44
Speaker 1: bank on that. You don't know and you can't foresee that.
48:47
Speaker 1: So I will give you some grace on that it
48:49
Speaker 1: better worked next month, Mama, money please tune it in
48:52
Speaker 1: when we do our Defensive preview. We got a special
48:54
Speaker 1: guest coming up for that episode when we get training
48:56
Speaker 1: camp underway. That for me, DT, it's I mean, if
49:00
Speaker 1: I've been done since thirteen seconds, then you know I've
49:02
Speaker 1: got more, no more. I mean, it's got this has
49:04
Speaker 1: got to be it. Now you just restock this coverard again.
49:06
Speaker 1: What do we say before the draft? Is this a
49:08
Speaker 1: good idea that we're gonna get ready to restock us
49:10
Speaker 1: covered again? Clearly Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott thought, so
49:14
Speaker 1: they restock the coboard this ship. Better work, DT, it
49:17
Speaker 1: it better. It better work. I didn't and I'm not
49:19
Speaker 1: saying top five defense, but it better. They better not
49:22
Speaker 1: be the culprit at any point in time this season
49:24
Speaker 1: when it comes.
49:25
Speaker 3: I agree, but I think it's going against what the
49:28
Speaker 3: reality is gonna be of. You know, Terry Brule is
49:31
Speaker 3: gonna sit in there and say, well, you know it's young.
49:33
Speaker 3: Let's let's give it another year to materialize and see,
49:36
Speaker 3: you know, there's always gonna be that, you know, because
49:39
Speaker 3: we're always going to be good enough. That's that's what's
49:41
Speaker 3: gonna be the biggest Devil's advocate. We're good enough. So
49:45
Speaker 3: let's give this idea another year to materialize, and that
49:48
Speaker 3: didn't work, So let's get a new defense or you know, hey,
49:51
Speaker 3: everybody eats doesn't work anymore, Let's go out and get
49:53
Speaker 3: some receivers. Like it's it's always gonna be, you know,
49:56
Speaker 3: there's always the.
49:57
Speaker 1: Biggest it'll never it'll never be is bad enough to
50:01
Speaker 1: make Terry exactly the fall back, you know.
50:03
Speaker 3: So Josh Allen in that case is a blessing and
50:06
Speaker 3: a curse, not a curse because you never wanted to happen.
50:08
Speaker 3: But you're not going to see that change you're looking
50:10
Speaker 3: for because you have the biggest safety net there is.
50:14
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the team will only be so bad
50:16
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. And I do agree with that. I
50:19
Speaker 1: hear that a lot, Mama Monday. Is that as long
50:21
Speaker 1: as Josh Allen is the quarterback, you're not going to
50:23
Speaker 1: win less than nine games, more more than likely when
50:26
Speaker 1: any giving year, if he has to.
50:29
Speaker 2: Put the team on his back and drag them by himself,
50:32
Speaker 2: he'll do it.
50:33
Speaker 3: And he's done it. We've seen it a lot. But
50:37
Speaker 3: what they're talking about with the Thibodeau and who's the
50:42
Speaker 3: stars coach? What's his name?
50:43
Speaker 2: Uh?
50:44
Speaker 1: The boar.
50:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, with these two guys who've been to you know,
50:47
Speaker 3: consecutive playoffs consecutive in the.
50:51
Speaker 1: Knicks having one ship, they went to the playoffs four
50:53
Speaker 1: out of five years with Thibodeau and then the first.
50:57
Speaker 3: Freaking But I think in a place of of like
51:06
Speaker 3: the NBA, especially now with the play in tournament and
51:09
Speaker 3: all that bs, like, the playoffs aren't as coveted as
51:12
Speaker 3: they used to be, right and now in the NFL
51:15
Speaker 3: you had that extra seed and the playoffs aren't as
51:18
Speaker 3: coveted as they used to be. But it's not the Bills.
51:22
Speaker 3: You know, getting in is a four or five every
51:24
Speaker 3: year and it's like, oh, we're a playoff team, but
51:26
Speaker 3: we're really we're really not a contender. There's you know,
51:28
Speaker 3: there's a team every year in the playoffs that is
51:30
Speaker 3: a playoff team, but they're not you know, no offense
51:33
Speaker 3: to the Broncos. This last year they got in, they
51:36
Speaker 3: weren't a contender, you know, and and so the playoff lost.
51:41
Speaker 3: You know, you can't just bank on, oh we're in
51:43
Speaker 3: the playoffs. But Thibodeau that and that route was more
51:47
Speaker 3: all right, the playoffs are so saturated now, like the
51:50
Speaker 3: playoffs really don't mean ship you got to win it
51:52
Speaker 3: our case. We are the top, we are a higher seed.
51:55
Speaker 3: We've never been the one, so, but losing in the
51:59
Speaker 3: high so I think it's a little different, little more
52:02
Speaker 3: minuscule because the sports themselves, like the playoffs don't mean
52:07
Speaker 3: as much in the NBA as they do in the NFL.
52:10
Speaker 3: But the NFL is getting watered down a little bit
52:12
Speaker 3: with that extra seed, and.
52:14
Speaker 1: We haven't less than half the teams though DT it's
52:17
Speaker 1: still only fourteen teams out of thirty two. I mean, so,
52:23
Speaker 1: are you saying so? You're saying so? Are you saying
52:26
Speaker 1: both sides of your mouth? Are you saying that Terry
52:28
Speaker 1: is happy?
52:28
Speaker 3: To other leagues in the NFL like of this, Oh,
52:31
Speaker 3: we we were successful, so we're going to keep it rolling.
52:34
Speaker 3: We're you're you're more apt to see that in the
52:36
Speaker 3: NFL as the other leagues of you know, hey, making
52:40
Speaker 3: the playoffs every year don't mean shit. In the NFL.
52:42
Speaker 3: Making the playoffs every year, I think means a little
52:44
Speaker 3: more to the general understanding of everyone. I think everyone, aren't.
52:49
Speaker 1: We are we not? Are we not tired? I think
52:53
Speaker 1: I think that that's I'm trying to check the temperature
52:55
Speaker 1: of bills Bonfi. I'm not Terry Pagoula. I don't have
52:57
Speaker 1: his ear. I can't talk to him. I can't give
52:59
Speaker 1: him my opinions. So that's my own thing is is
53:02
Speaker 1: the mafia? Are we? Are we okay with just being okay?
53:06
Speaker 1: Because I think I'm pretty sure that there's less and
53:08
Speaker 1: less people that are okay being okay. I think we've
53:11
Speaker 1: already given McDermott his flowers, Mama. We already have thanked
53:15
Speaker 1: him for taking us from the drought. We've already thanked
53:17
Speaker 1: him for being professional, not you know, being a jackass
53:20
Speaker 1: like Rex Ryan was and running a frat house. I
53:23
Speaker 1: think we've already how many times am I supposed to
53:25
Speaker 1: genue flect to you and thank you? Now? I'm looking
53:27
Speaker 1: for the baby. I need the I need the baby,
53:32
Speaker 1: the baby. I need the baby. How long are you
53:34
Speaker 1: going to be pregnant? We watch those sitcoms of those
53:36
Speaker 1: you know to mean, you know, family Guy and Simpsons,
53:39
Speaker 1: and they're pregnant for three seasons. You're like, when are
53:43
Speaker 1: they gonna have this damn baby? Like what I'm looking
53:45
Speaker 1: for the baby, Mama, Mondy. I'm looking for the baby
53:47
Speaker 1: DT And I think that that's that is my only point.
53:50
Speaker 1: I understand that Terry Pagoula is going through a lot.
53:54
Speaker 1: I understand that he has a team that is a
53:56
Speaker 1: dumpster fire. I get it. I am wondering if there's
53:59
Speaker 1: anyone in his circle that says, man, you you know,
54:03
Speaker 1: so you're just gonna You're gonna run it, but you're
54:04
Speaker 1: gonna And I don't I don't know if that person exists.
54:07
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's okay to have that,
54:09
Speaker 1: to have that opinion, but I do I do know
54:11
Speaker 1: that other organizations do feel that way. They're looking for
54:14
Speaker 1: a title.
54:15
Speaker 2: And I don't know what point one thing. I just
54:18
Speaker 2: mean to interrupt you, but it's something that it's worth
54:21
Speaker 2: it's really worth considering. Said something very important right there.
54:26
Speaker 2: Who speaks to Terry Poogoula. Kila used to speak to Terry.
54:35
Speaker 2: This team misses.
54:38
Speaker 1: They do. Both both teams miss her.
54:42
Speaker 2: Both teams miss her far more than because she was
54:49
Speaker 2: the one that had his ear m hm and she
54:53
Speaker 2: could tell him what she thought m hm.
54:57
Speaker 1: And listen, yes, his wife.
55:00
Speaker 3: This is like some game of throne ship, like the
55:03
Speaker 3: king that's like you know, the king that's you know,
55:07
Speaker 3: maybe a little out of touch, but like it's still
55:09
Speaker 3: the all powerful one, and the whole show is just
55:11
Speaker 3: about who's going to be the one to be who
55:14
Speaker 3: the King listens to, right, And I think once Kim left,
55:18
Speaker 3: that's probably what it is. You know, there's been you know,
55:21
Speaker 3: people might get out of character to be the one
55:23
Speaker 3: he listens to. What's that one? Dude? He was like
55:29
Speaker 3: the guy, like the main you know, the main marketing guy,
55:32
Speaker 3: the main like and then all of a sudden he
55:35
Speaker 3: was just yeah. And so I think there's a lot
55:37
Speaker 3: of you know, lobbying and.
55:39
Speaker 1: Poor They did fire him in a weird way, right
55:42
Speaker 1: right before the stadium stuff, right after the stadium stuff
55:44
Speaker 1: came out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you basically set up the whole like the
55:46
Speaker 3: stadium and then they were like, all right, thanks. You know,
55:50
Speaker 3: obviously we don't know the inner workings, but I think
55:52
Speaker 3: there's a lot of politicking and you know, and maneuvering
55:56
Speaker 3: to get to Terry's ear That wasn't possible when Kim
56:00
Speaker 3: was around, because that was already taken. Now it's a
56:02
Speaker 3: little you know, game of thronesy to get to his ear,
56:05
Speaker 3: and that might not lead to the most positive you
56:08
Speaker 3: know feedback. Because people are uncharacteristic just trying to get
56:11
Speaker 3: to that power role.
56:12
Speaker 1: Ooh that is really that is a really good way
56:15
Speaker 1: to end this episode. That I might have to change
56:17
Speaker 1: the damn name. That is really that's really good, DT,
56:21
Speaker 1: because yeah, because that that I didn't think about it
56:25
Speaker 1: that way, but I think that that is really really really,
56:29
Speaker 1: he's the closest person to you other than your spouse,
56:32
Speaker 1: because he's going to listen to her more than his kids.
56:34
Speaker 1: He's going to listen to her way more than any
56:37
Speaker 1: other strength. I mean it's it's wife, kids, and then
56:40
Speaker 1: all my employees. He's definitely listened to Kim before any
56:43
Speaker 1: of his employees. That's very interesting, DT, because there could
56:47
Speaker 1: be politics and you could see it for sure. I mean,
56:49
Speaker 1: you saw how they acted in COVID. They fired a
56:51
Speaker 1: lot of people at the Sabers organization. They fired a
56:54
Speaker 1: ton of people, and they did not fire.
56:58
Speaker 2: Sports and entertainment. They everything.
57:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's oh, DT, you are sending us
57:07
Speaker 1: off tonight with something to chew on, you know. And
57:09
Speaker 1: and for Nickel City Crew, Bill's mafia, I hope to
57:12
Speaker 1: this episode again it reaches you the right way, because again,
57:14
Speaker 1: this is the Dog Days this summer. We don't. I
57:16
Speaker 1: don't We're gonna break down minie camp and break down
57:19
Speaker 1: guys running routes on air Like I don't. That's not
57:22
Speaker 1: really what I'm here for here at nicchol City Crew.
57:24
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll we'll get to the stuff when it
57:26
Speaker 1: when it's actually stuff to talk about, and next month
57:28
Speaker 1: we'll obviously have some stuff to talk about with training camp.
57:31
Speaker 1: I do think that this Buffalo Bill's team is good
57:33
Speaker 1: enough to win the Super Bowl this year. Again, I've
57:35
Speaker 1: already put my hand up. I will be quiet this
57:37
Speaker 1: year about everybody eats. They already made me. They shoved
57:42
Speaker 1: the spoon in my mouth, the fork in my mouth
57:44
Speaker 1: last year and I had to just eat it, and
57:45
Speaker 1: I had to eat it all the way to the
57:47
Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game because it was working. So I will
57:49
Speaker 1: not say anything about Brandon Bean and his strategy this
57:52
Speaker 1: year until it doesn't work, because of the fact that
57:55
Speaker 1: it worked last year and Josh Allen it worked to
57:57
Speaker 1: the tune of an MVP for our star quarterback. So listen,
58:00
Speaker 1: I'll be quiet on that. I am. I am yearning
58:04
Speaker 1: for a parade. Nothing less for me is really acceptable
58:08
Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback of his caliber. If he
58:10
Speaker 1: did it was fits or a regular run of the
58:13
Speaker 1: mill quarterback, that I really would I really wouldn't care
58:15
Speaker 1: the same way that I do. I have never experienced
58:17
Speaker 1: a quarterback like this. I think that he is the
58:19
Speaker 1: most athletic quarterback that we have seen in many generations,
58:24
Speaker 1: and I just think that it would be a disservice
58:27
Speaker 1: to just I don't know.
58:29
Speaker 3: I think answer to this episode as well, our answer
58:33
Speaker 3: to this whole episode of what will it take that
58:36
Speaker 3: might be what it takes seventeen saying yo.
58:40
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the I fully think that's the only reason.
58:43
Speaker 1: That's the only way, Robin.
58:47
Speaker 3: Something.
58:48
Speaker 1: That's the only way, Mama Monday, Kim. You know, Kim
58:51
Speaker 1: is gone in that respect. She's not obviously passed away
58:54
Speaker 1: or anything like that. We were not speaking of her
58:56
Speaker 1: ill or anything like that. But we know what we
58:58
Speaker 1: mean by when we say that that, yes, she doesn't
58:59
Speaker 1: have the same type of ability to have his ear
59:02
Speaker 1: the same way. Mae, Yeah, I don't. I don't see
59:04
Speaker 1: another way. You guys have laid it out for me
59:06
Speaker 1: that that Terry is he is. He's worried about the
59:10
Speaker 1: other stuff, and maybe he was maybe he does feel
59:12
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit embarrassed. Like Mama Monday
59:15
Speaker 1: said about the Sabers and how crappy they are, fourteen
59:18
Speaker 1: years is a long time. We went through it with
59:20
Speaker 1: the Drop.
59:22
Speaker 3: You have to work so hard.
59:24
Speaker 2: The worst team in your division five years in a row,
59:28
Speaker 2: and twice the worst team in the whole league.
59:31
Speaker 1: It's really hard. It's really hard, and you get a
59:34
Speaker 1: generational player. He wasn't McDavid, but Ichol's damn good and
59:37
Speaker 1: he's you got to get me out of here. Then
59:39
Speaker 1: Reinhart getting ready to watch Reinhart play in the in
59:42
Speaker 1: the West India and the Stanley Cup finals again. And
59:44
Speaker 1: I mean, like, these guys were good, they had some
59:46
Speaker 1: players and they just could not get together. And I
59:48
Speaker 1: think that again, he's one person, and I think it's seeping.
59:51
Speaker 1: I think I think his his troubles with the Sabers
59:54
Speaker 1: are seeping into the Bills and he's operating from a
59:57
Speaker 1: place of fear. You don't have to be scared to
59:59
Speaker 1: be great when you got somebody like Josh Allen and
1:00:02
Speaker 1: I would love to see him with a I'd love
1:00:05
Speaker 1: to see him with an offensive a coordinator as his coach.
1:00:07
Speaker 1: I just think that there would be it would be different,
1:00:10
Speaker 1: but we'll see year nine. You guys are all signed
1:00:13
Speaker 1: up for it. Listen, Mama Monday. I really appreciate your
1:00:16
Speaker 1: time tonight. We really are so gracious and really appreciate you. Listen.
1:00:21
Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia out there. We love you, guys, nicol City Crew,
1:00:25
Speaker 1: we will be We're getting ready to take a break
1:00:27
Speaker 1: pretty soon, you guys. Listen. Look out for our director Olivia,
1:00:32
Speaker 1: Olivia Nagels. She will let you know about what's going on.
1:00:33
Speaker 1: But we're getting ready to take a break summers. Here.
1:00:36
Speaker 1: Give us a quick quick tailgate tale nicol City Crew,
1:00:40
Speaker 1: Tapet report DT. What you got going this weekend? Man?
1:00:43
Speaker 3: Well beautiful, wea they're finally back. It's gonna rain this weekend.
1:00:46
Speaker 3: It's rained or snowed every single weekend since November thirteenth
1:00:49
Speaker 3: in upstate New York, by the way.
1:00:52
Speaker 1: So that's sick.
1:00:54
Speaker 3: So it will probably rain a little this weekend, but
1:00:57
Speaker 3: should look okay. Getting fitted for a talks for a
1:01:00
Speaker 3: nice wedding I got coming up in the fall. I'm
1:01:03
Speaker 3: the best man and it's you know, fellow Vikings Kai
1:01:08
Speaker 3: and Page. They're getting married, So congratulations. Yep, we're hitting
1:01:14
Speaker 3: the so getting the tuxes tomorrow and and try to
1:01:17
Speaker 3: get some golf in and just just laying Low Man Landlow.
1:01:20
Speaker 3: We might have a little sneak trip down to Pittsburgh
1:01:24
Speaker 3: next week for the US Open. We'll see, we'll see.
1:01:28
Speaker 3: That's kind of in the works right now. So this
1:01:29
Speaker 3: weekend kind of take it easy, Gonna get my eyes
1:01:32
Speaker 3: on the playoffs in NHL, the Night NBA on Sunday,
1:01:37
Speaker 3: UFC Big UFC Fight tomorrow with Sugar Show.
1:01:41
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Kid right is from Lancaster. Lack of wan
1:01:44
Speaker 1: or something.
1:01:45
Speaker 3: Yet and the Sugar Show. So uh, you know, Laylow
1:01:49
Speaker 3: sports a Bachelor a Bachelor weekend for.
1:01:55
Speaker 1: Mama Monday, haling all the way from w y Oh
1:01:57
Speaker 1: that stands for y owning with Josh Atlan played his
1:02:00
Speaker 1: college ball go pokes. As we say, what you got
1:02:04
Speaker 1: going on this weekend? Out of money? Nicol City crutel
1:02:06
Speaker 1: Get reported, Yes.
1:02:07
Speaker 2: Weekend is all about catching up with what I didn't
1:02:10
Speaker 2: get done last weekend because we had some unexpected company.
1:02:14
Speaker 2: I see, you're sitting at the gateway of Yellowstone Park
1:02:17
Speaker 2: and so everyone that knows us where the pits stopped.
1:02:21
Speaker 2: Before you get.
1:02:22
Speaker 1: Sure absolutely makes sense, makes sense.
1:02:25
Speaker 2: So I got a lot of a ton of outside
1:02:28
Speaker 2: yardwork to do. That's what I'm going to be doing,
1:02:30
Speaker 2: all right.
1:02:30
Speaker 1: Well with the Kings. The cripp and Kings have haircuts
1:02:33
Speaker 1: Tomroll because Nate is having his graduation on next Tuesday,
1:02:37
Speaker 1: so I've got another one going in the middle school.
1:02:39
Speaker 1: So Bobby's in middle school now, Nate will be joining him.
1:02:42
Speaker 1: So I'm running out of kids in respects to the
1:02:45
Speaker 1: elementary school. But I mean, it seems like I've got
1:02:47
Speaker 1: a football team. Details I got, I've got three more
1:02:50
Speaker 1: coming through it, you know, before you know it. So
1:02:52
Speaker 1: Quincy is in elementary school, and then we got Flow
1:02:55
Speaker 1: coming up, and then before you know it, before we
1:02:56
Speaker 1: can blink, Ivy will be that old you know. I mean,
1:02:59
Speaker 1: I know, it seems forever a way now, but before
1:03:01
Speaker 1: you know it. So Nate is graduating going on in
1:03:04
Speaker 1: middle school. So we've got graduation. So we got to
1:03:05
Speaker 1: get off fresh and cut. Daddy, got to look nice
1:03:08
Speaker 1: and make sure everything is good to go for it
1:03:10
Speaker 1: next tuesday. But we're really excited. He's done a great
1:03:12
Speaker 1: job and he is. He cannot wait to get out
1:03:14
Speaker 1: of that damn school. I'm like Man, this middle school.
1:03:17
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's about to get out. Not because it's hard,
1:03:19
Speaker 1: he just this is annoying. This is annoying, And I'm like, man,
1:03:23
Speaker 1: you better get used. You got a lot, You got
1:03:24
Speaker 1: a lot more time to go before school's done. So
1:03:26
Speaker 1: just just hold off, relax. You're getting ready to go
1:03:29
Speaker 1: to middle school. So he's give a lot.
1:03:31
Speaker 3: I give a lot to get one more day in
1:03:33
Speaker 3: middle school.
1:03:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Yeah, so yep, he's finishing up. Elementary school's
1:03:36
Speaker 1: got graduation next week. So that's what we got to
1:03:38
Speaker 1: going tomorrow. Probably get some haircuts in the morning and
1:03:41
Speaker 1: then maybe hit the pool up. We got all the kids.
1:03:43
Speaker 1: I've got got all of them tomorrow, so we'll probably
1:03:45
Speaker 1: get some fun in the sun as long as it
1:03:47
Speaker 1: doesn't run down here in Charlotte. So listen, Nicol City Crew, Bills, Mafia.
1:03:51
Speaker 1: We really appreciate you guys, almost six hundred people again
1:03:54
Speaker 1: watching tonight on a Friday night. You guys could be
1:03:56
Speaker 1: doing anything, and we really do appreciate you guys joining
1:03:58
Speaker 1: us and appreciate it. Listen this this was a grown
1:04:00
Speaker 1: up conversation tonight. I just wanted to have a grown
1:04:02
Speaker 1: up conversation. Put the kids to bed. I wanted to
1:04:04
Speaker 1: talk about a few things. I really do appreciate you
1:04:06
Speaker 1: both indulging me for sure. Listen out there, spread love,
1:04:10
Speaker 1: not hate. These were my bills thoughts set out loud.
1:04:13
Speaker 1: Hit them with the gold bills. We want a Super Bowl.
1:04:16
Speaker 1: We want to hit them with the gold bills.
1:04:18
Speaker 2: Go bills, Bills.
1:04:20
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, I love it. Go bills.