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AEW Dynasty Review - AEW Dynamite Preview · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with the
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  aw Fat Hub podcast team. This is Kelson and this is Alex, and
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  we had a huge pay per view. I think some of us really enjoyed
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  it. Some of us maybe not so much. Spoiler alert. Yeah yeah,
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  so let's get into it. I think we're gonna start from the bottom
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  and work our way up. Yeah. First, you know, we had
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  a few matches on Zero Hour. I think Trent and Matt Sidell opened up
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  the show. I don't really have a lot to say about this match,
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  but I did enjoy the ending we had Trent getting a mic and calling out
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  Chuck e t and kind of seeing where he stands in there their feud,
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  so setting up for Dynamite. So I am excited about that. I mean
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  the match was just what it was. It was just to get Trent some
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  heel heat, I think, right. Yeah. I mean when you look
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  at Matt Sidel, you know, very talented wrestler. But let's face it,
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  between Matt Sidell and the next match, which was Shabbata and Cassidy against
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  STP, I mean you're looking at months and months and months and months of
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  win loss record mediocrity. You know they're gonna lose, so why have them
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  on even a zero hour at a pay per view? That just yeah,
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  I agree that you just don't put jobber matches in a pay per view.
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  Yeah, those are easily collisioned dynamite matches like yeah, nothing special absolutely,
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  yeah yeah, I mean that's just my point of view. I'm interested to
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  hear what your point of view is because I think you can lump in the
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  Orange Cassidy and Shabata match with Taylor Moriarty and yeah, yeah, to me,
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  the only interesting part, like I like seeing Shabata, I like seeing
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  Orange Cassidy and all these guys, But it was just about the staredown between
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  Krant and Orange Cassidy and that angle. Yeah, it was like a two
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  second bit with a fifteen minute of you know, wrestling built around it.
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  It was weird. They should have just lamp lumped them two matches together and
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  made it a six man mm hmmm, yeah, I guess, yeah,
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  that would be That would have made more sense because your your your Orige Castidy
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  match was a revenge match of sorts for Sabata because he got kind of screwed
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  over by Jericho. The weekend before, So that was kind of why that
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  match happened. You're right, those two matches would have been better to have
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  something else. Yeah, yeah, I think it just existed to yeah further
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  that storyline. Did you have something to say about it that, No,
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  No, I was just agreeing. I was thinking about it, and yeah,
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  I agree it It just kind of I don't know, it felt felt
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  a little flat to me, So I don't know. You you wrapped it
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  up really well when you said I was thinking about it and yeah. Yeah,
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  yeah, that's a good way to think about it. That we had
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  what was the next Yeah, so the highlight of zero hour it was the
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  acclaimed versus Bullet Club Gold. We had the titles unification match Bullet Club Gold
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  one day White got his pinned back ass. Yeah. I thought it was
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  a fun match. It wasn't like anything super amazing, but it was.
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  Yeah, it was just fun. I enjoyed it, But it wasn't you
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  know, the highlight of the card for me. Yeah. I mean,
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  look, this is what I'll say about this match. First of all,
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  I enjoyed, I really enjoyed this match. They're both terrific teams. What
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  I don't enjoy is trios matches at all ever. I mean, even when
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  you had the best triangle and the elite doing their best of seven and they
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  did pull off a few you know things to make those seven matches different from
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  one another, but they were trios matches and they don't translate the TV.
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  Well, I don't enjoy watching them. It doesn't matter. So I've never
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  to this day seen an a you know where I would give a trios match
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  an A. So what I'll say about this matches is that as a trios
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  match, it was actually very good. It was enjoyable. Now I don't
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  ever want to see a trios match ever again on AWTV. That's that's just
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  me. Mm hmm. Yeah. I doubt you will get that wish,
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  but I be. But at least now that there's only one set of trios
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  belts theoretically, I mean, and they might only be on Ring of Honor
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  now, they might be kind of retiring them softly from aw TV, so
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  you might get somewhat of your wish at least less trios matches. Oh well,
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  I had a side question kind of about the acclaimed in that match.
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  Does anyone think that Max Castor is trying to get fired with his rap.
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  Yeah, with his with his raps, because I remember reading that a few
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  weeks ago, and someone in the Reddit chat brought it up again after Dynasty
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  that they felt that he was purposely doing things and saying things to get fired,
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  and I hadn't gotten that feeling about him. But I was wondering if
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  any of you all maybe saw something that I had not seen yet. Well
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  after that fiasco they had that one day, the one time Tony approves everything
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  he does, right, So I don't think that, you know, people
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  can say, well, he's trying to get fired. Tony's approving the wraps,
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  so everything that he said before that, which I found very interesting,
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  He's getting that approved before he does it. He's not coming out and just
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  working on his own. So it might it might they might get the feeling
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  that he's trying to get fired, but I just think it's it's just what's
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  going on right now. Okay, Okay, Yeah, I've never like especially
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  the last rap he did, and he hasn't done a rap in a while,
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  but yeah, I enjoyed it, Like I like when he pushes boundaries.
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  I didn't think I never feel like he's crossing a line. I always
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  feel like he's probably getting permission from his opponent ahead of time. I think
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  it's just like in good fun. Okay, all right, well thank you,
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  because I thought maybe I was missing something. Yeah, I don't.
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  I don't think that, you know, the Reddit gods are right here,
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  but I do, you know, but they could be. But at this
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  point, I don't think he's trying to get fun. Yeah. Yeah.
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  I think the time that he had the issue there was that it was didn't
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  he have some kind of there was like a death inist family or something,
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  and there was some other stuff outside of it going on. His mother died.
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  Yeah, yeah, so I was Mike, you know that can that
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  can seriously affect what's going on? His father died. I'm sorry I thought
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  it was his father. Yeah. Well, moving right along to the UH
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  card. What better way to start than Jericho? Okay, I yeah,
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  I don't know. Something. I was at the aw show in Toronto,
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  UH and Cook was beating up Chris Jericho and all the fans were booing Chris
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  Jericho, wanting Hook to kill Chris Jericho, And something broke in me that
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  night that just made me decide that I'm gonna like Chris Jericho no matter what,
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  so I I was happy that he won. I didn't hate this match.
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  I see Consen's rated it quite low, but I didn't. I didn't
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  love it, but I would definitely put it above, you know, the
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  worst match of the night. I kind of like the ending. I like
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  Chris Jericho with the FTW Championship. Maybe he's going to retire it. I
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  don't think that would be a bad thing, but yeah, I don't.
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  I didn't hate this match. I'd give it like a D plus probably.
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  Yeah, you know, the only thing. The only thing I'll say about
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  this match is that today. Maybe Benu late last night, but I think
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  it was today. Chris Jericho went on Twitter x and made a post that
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  said thank you to everybody who Oh what did he say? He said,
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  thanking everybody who supported me it cheered for me at Dynasty. And I replied
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  to that tweet by saying, yeah, those two guys were really annoying.
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  I'm not sure. I'm not sure he really heard. He must not already
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  paid much attention to the teers he was getting, because it was a couple
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  of those you should retire or something. It was a pretty much a symphony
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  of it. What are you talking about a couple. Yeah, it was.
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  He's I just I just like the fact that he's actually doing my I
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  was talking to my son about it, and I said, you're missing the
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  point. He's doing the see them Punk stuff that see Him Punk did backstage
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  on TV on live. That's the difference. That's what makes it different and
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  makes it funny and makes it interesting because he's actually being and it's and it's
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  a it's definitely directed at that. Yeah, And you know, I have
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  a question. You know, so we heard the please retire and other stuff
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  that was said. Do you really think that the fans want Chris Jericho to
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  retire or do you think they're just playing into the you know, to the
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  gimmick that's going on right now because he is obviously playing the CM punk part
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  right now. And frankly, I don't, I'm not I'm not here for
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  it. I don't, I don't want I don't ever want to hear or
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  see CM punk again because of the media scrum. You know, I thought
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  he was very unprofessional. I have nothing to say about the all in backstage
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  footage or the brawl out because I wasn't there and I couldn't hear and see
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  everything and all in. I don't know what was said done beforehand at brawl
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  out. I wasn't in the room. The only thing I can say is
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  where you had the the press conference, the media scrum. Cmpunk was wrong,
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  and frankly so was Tony kan because he should have had security escort cmpunk
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  out of the building. You should have fired him on the spot right then,
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  and if he had done that, none of this other stuff would have
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  happened. This is true. Mm hmm. You know, so goddamn it.
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  You know, Chris Jericho, You're a legend. Shut the hell up
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  and do something different because this isn't working for me. It will never work
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  for me, and I hope you fail. I think it is interesting because
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  people are legitimately booing him because they don't like him, and mostly people boo
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  people for fun, like Don Kallis, So I don't know something there's some
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  value in that. Wait a minute. I don't think they mowed on Callas
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  for the fun of it. I think they mowed on Callus because they truly
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  hate him. But it's I think it's part of the gimmick. It's I
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  agree with Alex, it's they boo him because they're supposed to boo him and
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  they love doing it. Yeah, and it's fun when it's drowning him out.
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  It's Jericho. It is because they hate him and they want him to
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  get off their TV. Well, here's the thing, this is the way
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  I feel about it. I'm sorry for going on about this, but I
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  just have to say this. One last thing is that Damn Punk when Collisions
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  started, when he came back, he wasn't good. He was not in
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  good rest all right. Basically what combined see Him Punk not being good at
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  all when he came back when Collisions started, he was over exposed while not
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  being good at all. And this is where Chris Jericho is kind of emulating.
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  See Him Punk again. Now, Chris Jericho, to his credit,
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  can still go far better than see Him Punk can. I'm sorry, but
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  he can't. He could do moves still, He could do you know,
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  you know whatever he could do. He could do all of his signature moves
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  still, See him Punk can't even do his signature moves without thearing his byset.
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  I don't think he could pick his nose at this point without tearing his
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  byset. So or tri Sarah toops, I don't care you know, so
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  that's a I'm sorry, Yeah, Nett, did you have any thoughts on
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  like Chris Jericho Hook. I think that that entire match could have been maybe
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  maybe on Zero Hour. It's it didn't seem to go with the flow of
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  the main show. I like Jericho in and of himself, but whatever he's
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  doing right now, it's it's really ugh. It's really aggravating, and it's
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  it's not funny anymore or entertaining. It's just it's grating on my nerves.
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  For one. Well, Beth, let me ask you this. Do you
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  think that this is actually helping Hook in any way? Not really, No,
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  I don't. I don't see it helping Hook because Jericho has that that
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  way about him and I think we've all touched on that before, where he
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  kind of gets with younger talent and overshadows them a bit and takes away from
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  their shine. And even now with this match, all we're doing is talking
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  about Jericho, you know, who was there too, and I enjoyed what
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  Hook did, but I think what what Jericho is missing. The point is
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  he says he wants to do this, and if you listen to his interviews,
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  he does he wants to help the younger guys get where they want to
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  go or they need to go. The problem is his ego, he says,
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  he's like he says one thing and does something else. He does he
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  shouldn't be doing it on camera. He should be doing a backstage He's not
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  got the character the I love Jericho. I've always loved Jericho, but he
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  isn't someone that works well with other people. If you think about all the
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  great gimmicks he's done, it's Ben Jericho except for Jerishow, But it's always
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  been Jericho by himself, not with the group, not with the tag team,
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  not having somebody in his wing. So I think it's come to the
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  point where somebody needs to tell him, hey, dude, you gotta you
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  gotta stop doing it this way and do it the right way. Well,
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  you know, let's let's move on. We're gonna move on to the next
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  match was which was the trio's match between the whatever they call themselves is the
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  Rated Hard Raided R Chicken Farts and the House of Black Whatever. Full disclosure,
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  I always saw about the second I saw this about six seconds in this
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  match. I'm not gonna you know. The six seconds I saw was very
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  fortunate. I turned it on, turned off the TV, turned it back
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  on to see if it was over yet, and I saw Eddie Kings didn't
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  have his unfortunate you know, losing battle with the rig ropes, and I
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  turned it back off again. But what did you guys think of this match?
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  I thought it was a good match. I enjoyed. I mean,
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  it was good interaction. I thought it was a good a good match.
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  I would have given it a B minus the fact that House of Black didn't
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  lose made it a little bit better. Because they've been losing so many matches
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  for so long. It's nice to see them actually win something for a change.
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  And I think it's gonna get a good stepping stone to set up uh
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  Copeland versus Black eventually for the title. Okay, yeah, that seems to
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  be the prevailing thought of the Red at Gods. As I mentioned earlier,
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  you getting that, Yeah, somebody called us somebody we're doing this recording God
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  Discord and somebody called us in the middle of the what Yeah, yeah,
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  so MK is the is the guilty party? Ah? Anyway on my phone.
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  I heard it on my computer two rooms away. Yeah, there we
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  go. Let's continue to talk to talk about this trios matches. Anybody else
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  have anything to say about this? I don't even think that even chimed in,
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  I don't know. It wasn't that exciting to me. I mean,
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  I'm I think it was fun and action packed, but it wasn't really anything
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  over the top. I'm looking forward to seeing if that's what's going to happen
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  Malachi Black used more in singles matches and eventually fight Copeland. But you know,
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  it's good. I liked a lot of the the Mark Brisco action in
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  the match. It was nice to see him. I think he's getting back
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  to his old self and it's it's nice to see him again. So I
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  enjoyed that. But that was all right. I guess i'd give it a
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  B if I had to rate it. M hm, yeah, yeah,
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  I feel the same as Natt. I think it was a good, like
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  action packed, fun match. I really liked the ending with Malachi Black missing
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  Adam Copeland and Adam and Malachi Black was kind of like ducking Adam Copeland the
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  whole match, like avoiding fighting him. So yeah, I think they're very
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  clearly setting up a singles match with them, and I wonder, you know,
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  could we see a singles title reign for Malachi Black and consistent singles matches.
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  I'd be pretty interested in that. So, yeah, you think,
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  maybe Alex that this is a way to set up Malachi Black and maybe Brodie
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  Kinger Buddy Matthews for a tag team run against Christian and Copeland. Yeah,
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  I could see like House of Black being the villains, like putting Adam Copeland
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  in a situation where he needs back up and maybe they've already hurt Eddie and
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  Mark and anybody else that would help him out. And yeah, this could
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  lead to Christian being the one to make the save and return to aw Yeah,
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  because we haven't seen Christian in a long time now, Yes, since
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  he lost it, right, I was kind of wondering about that. Where
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  he's Where is Christian? Is he that devastated that he lost the match?
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  I guess Spike didn't do a little damage hanging out with Mother Wayne. He'll
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  be okay. Well, I have a little bit of a prediction about that,
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  but it'll be later on in the show when I make a prediction of
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  what's going on out with Christian and his patriarchy. M okay, So let's
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  switch to the next match. Moving up, we had Willow versus Julia Hart
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  in a very short match, with Willow winning the championship. Yeah. I
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  thought like Willow looked good, she had some good power moves, but it
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  was just short and weird, weirdly short. Whether Julia was injured or got
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  injured during the match, I don't know. Well, she's supposed to have
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  the shorter injuries, and you know that didn't make any sense to have.
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  She didn't do anything in the the tag match on Dynamite really except for coming
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  in and use the there was a chain for a minute. Uh. So
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  I was really disappointed that they did this match like they did. It didn't
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  do it, didn't do justice to either one of them. No, No,
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  I agree with you. I mean this match, frankly should have never
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  happened. One. Julia is injured, and you could clearly see that she
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  was injured based on the mixed tag team match last week and also Dynasty.
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  She did give Willow credit when Willow did any move on to Julia Hart.
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  She did protect Julia's shoulder. But the way I look at it again,
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  this match should have never happened. First of all, you don't put an
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  injured wrestler in the I'm surprised Juliet was cleared if that's even a thing to
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  wrestle, because she wasn't able to do it. And the second thing is
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  that Willow in no way, shape or form earned a shot at that title
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  to begin with. I meane it was just one of those that was a
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  means to an end to get Willow to face per cites tone double on nothing
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  and they basically threw Julia under the bus on this one. However, I
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  don't know if you saw the bit that she did meaning Julia after the show.
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  It was a very short spot where they had her standing in a dark
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  corner like she always is with the eerie lighting, and she was bawling her
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  eyes out and just literally, I mean really water works coming out, you
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  know. And she didn't say a word, but Brody King came up to
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  her, took off took off his jacket, which I don't know why he's
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  wearing a jacket, but he kind of wrapped it around Julia's shoulders and said
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  rebuild and somebody needs to mute please, said rebuild. And when Julia kind
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  of stopped sniffling and kind of looked up at the camera, with this ghastly
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  evil look at her eye. You know, so when Mercedes Monette, when
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  Julia was when Mercedes Monet came in, Remember Julia was kind of sort of
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  injured at that point too. This has been really rough month or so for
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  Julia. The problem was is that you know that was the problem. You
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  know that she was injured. But when Mercedes smoking and A came in,
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  they said that they had big plans for Julia in the future. This is
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  not over for Julia. I mean, I think the end game is.
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  I think I really do think Julia is going to get back this championship,
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  and I would not be surprised that Double or Nothing is either a three way
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  or a way for Julia could has that that rematch clause she could take on
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  the person right after Double or Nothing and take the championship back. But I
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  kind of don't want Julia to have this championship back. I think Julia should
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  go to UH to UH World title. I think I think Julie should be
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  going to going to start him anyway, like I think they should have added
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  a third person to this match. Then you're gonna have an actual match and
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  hid Julia's injury and then Julia doesn't even need to take the pin, Like,
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  yeah, it's kind of weird that they had it at all. Mm
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  hmm, Okay, anybody else said anything to say, I would say,
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  yeah, this is the weakest match of the curve. It was, you
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  know, I just did. I just didn't think that this match should have
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  happened at all. I mean, it wasn't fair to Julia, and Willow
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  did not earn it. Julia beat Willow twice recently. There was no reason
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  for this match to happen. Maybe this is why the week, why the
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  rankings are not working, and why they went away to begin with. Yeah,
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  yeah, I think one one other thing I'd say, like, if
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  you had high hopes for for the women's division after Mercedes Monique came in,
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  I think this would be a little bit extra disappointing on top of that,
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  because yeah, it was really a kind of a nothing match. And if
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  you're if you're if the plane goes to what it's supposed to go to,
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  will is going to have the title for a month because Mercedes is going to
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  probably beat her for it at double or nothing, and you really don't have
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  a reason to keep the title on her other than that I mean, she's
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  you know what I mean. They're not going to have Mercedes go against Willow
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  and lose. That would be crazy. Yeah, but that again, when
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  you look at it, why would Mercedes win the match at double or nothing
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  because everybody expects it. Would it be better to su perhaps make a surprise
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  and have Willow win it so that like will becomes kind of like Mercedes's scryptonite.
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  That could That could work, But I'm not I'm not counting that to
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  happen because that's not normally how Tony works things anymore. Yeah, you know
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  what I mean. I mean it. I get what you're saying, and
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  I agreed, I think that, but you I don't see him give him
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  money a loss in her first match. Mm hmm. Right. I think
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  it would be better. I think it would be great for Willow and be
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  more interesting, But yeah, I don't see it happening either. You gotta
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  feel bad for Willow. I mean, first of all, she didn't earn
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  this match. Second of all, she's winning it and then she's gonna lose
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  it within a month. Well, the only other thing, cycle, the
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  only thing that that that would make sense is if they did and this all
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  comes down to how hurt is Julia. Is it something that's like just a
• 27:52
  nagging injury that if she gets a month off it'll be okay, or just
• 27:56
  something more than that. But if they did add her in double or nothing
• 28:03
  could lead to a all in or all out I'm all out the London Show.
• 28:11
  It can lead all in, okay, it can lead to Julia versus
• 28:15
  Mercedes. Have Julia beat Willow at it for the title back and then have
• 28:22
  those two go at it at all out all in. That would be really
• 28:25
  I agree with you that Mercedes is going to be the biggest name as far
• 28:30
  as the women's division goes at all in and having her lose it all in
• 28:36
  will elevate whoever she loses to, whether it's Willow, whether it's somebody else,
• 28:40
  whether it's Julia, it's going to elevate them. It's going to be
• 28:44
  their moment and I will make and create a superstar in my opinion. You
• 28:48
  know, so I think that you're going down the right path there. It
• 28:56
  will definitely be an interesting month. Well let's move on because we've got actually
• 29:06
  the match that opened the actual pay per view, and you know, I'm
• 29:11
  gonna say his name this way because I do so enjoy saying it this way,
• 29:15
  Kazu Chica Okata against Paca Ka's Chica. I just I don't know why.
• 29:26
  I just enjoy saying that like that because I'm weird. But anyway,
• 29:32
  this was a great way to open the show, wouldn't you agree? Yeah?
• 29:36
  Yeah, this is a match second best match of the night. Yeah,
• 29:41
  I don't know, like I This and the FTR match I guess are
• 29:45
  like two A and two B for me. But yeah, this is a
• 29:48
  really good match. Okatta is such a star. He was so good when
• 29:55
  he did his pose in the middle, fingers and the lake. Yeah,
• 30:00
  this was a fantastic match. It was a great way to open the show.
• 30:06
  Great finish. Yeah, I loved it. It was great. Yeah,
• 30:12
  go ahead, I'm sorry. I think it was a great use of
• 30:17
  their time as well. It was a thirty minute match, and I think
• 30:21
  they used every minute of those thirty minutes to really put something fantastic together.
• 30:30
  I feel like it went by so fast because it was action pat and I
• 30:38
  really liked it. I thought that that pack was really good. Okada.
• 30:45
  I like him anyway. I like to see him when he faces shorter opponents.
• 30:53
  For some reason, he seems to do really well with those that are
• 30:57
  shorter than him. He knows how to balance things out, and I I
• 31:06
  just really like it. I think that Pax stood out a lot. You
• 31:10
  got to see a lot of what he can do. And I've missed him
• 31:15
  as he's been gone here and there, so it was really nice to see
• 31:18
  him back and remember why he stands out. So it was one of my
• 31:25
  favorites. I'm glad they opened with it. You hear that's po Net wanting
• 31:30
  to face Oda. I mean, your your short ass is gonna put on
• 31:34
  a fantastic match. Then yeah, you know, so who else wants to
• 31:47
  talk about this match? SnO oh? I thought it was a great match.
• 31:52
  I loved uh. You know, I've been watching Kada for about I
• 31:57
  started watching him the in twenty twenty in the January, right before the everything
• 32:06
  went broke all hell broke loose in the matches that we're going on there in
• 32:08
  Japan. My son got me into it. Then I thought, he is
• 32:14
  one of the best that's out there right now. He just is. So
• 32:16
  he's one of those guys that can just about do anything and can make anybody
• 32:21
  look good no matter what's going on, and that's impressive, especially for a
• 32:24
  guy his size, because he's a big guy. I mean, he really
• 32:29
  is a tall guy. So you know, sometimes when you have those things,
• 32:32
  and I'm six foot four, so I've always been considered a taller person,
• 32:37
  it's sometimes hard to make people look, you know, when you're that
• 32:40
  tall to be able to do some of the stuff that he can do.
• 32:44
  So he does do a very good job of it. I love watching him
• 32:46
  wrestle. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. I have to give
• 32:52
  props to Pack here because one of the things I've always said about AW as
• 32:57
  a whole is that my favorite wrestlers in the AW were the ones that can
• 33:00
  sell. Is a fantastic seller, and that's why I love him. Pack
• 33:06
  is an incredibly good seller. And I just love watching Pack get just like
• 33:12
  even a basic move, he acts like he just folds. He just folds
• 33:16
  upon himself. I mean he just puts it over so well. And I
• 33:21
  appreciate that so much. And I wish I could see I mentioned this last
• 33:25
  week. I hope this isn't the end of the Pack. At Kasuka Okaday
• 33:31
  story, they did that DDT on the outside of the ring where Okada had
• 33:39
  him draped over the barricade and pack. He took it so well, like
• 33:46
  just fully on the head and then flipped over and I think he was like
• 33:51
  shaking afterwards. Yeah, yeah, I thought he was. Yeah, it
• 33:55
  look really good, really really good. Yeah. I mean, when you
• 34:00
  can't tell whether they're selling or they're actually injured, you know who else does
• 34:02
  a really good job with that? And this may surprise you. But when
• 34:07
  it comes to are they injured or are they just selling? Brit Baker does
• 34:10
  a fantastic job of that. I'm sorry, but she does. Sorry elf,
• 34:14
  but Grit Baker, Rit Baker, Brit Baker can sell. She's really
• 34:21
  good. Of course a lot of times she's selling, you know the broken
• 34:23
  nose that actually did happen, because nobody was broken like Brit Baker. But
• 34:29
  I do appreciate that, I really do. I'm not even going to go
• 34:34
  there, going to go there, especial especially since today is Jamie Hayter.
• 34:42
  Yeah, and Brit Baker's birthday. So happy birthday, ladies, and I
• 34:45
  for one can't wait to get both of you back at the AW because they
• 34:50
  do have a lot to contribute. Happy birthday. I need a petition to
• 34:54
  having my birthday change My birthday is on Sunday, and I just don't know
• 34:58
  if I can share the same month. You just gotta find out, find
• 35:07
  out WHA's birthday is. You can share the month with him. It's sad
• 35:10
  because I share a birthday with Jay Leno and the late Despicable Hassan Saddam Hussein.
• 35:21
  So yeah, birthday you can't change now. I'm thinking about it for
• 35:28
  years. And this might be the the straw that broke the camel's back.
• 35:34
  Is that joke? It's a Baker dig But I agree with you. I
• 35:44
  mean, the the other one that's really good at that that's there now is
• 35:46
  Brian Danielson, although sometimes I think he does it a little too much.
• 35:52
  Yeah, we'll get to that there, Okay, Yeah, next match F
• 35:59
  t R versus the Bucks ladder match. So this was the second last match
• 36:04
  of the card, and you know, after the match before it, they
• 36:07
  had a tough job to do of pulling the crowd back, and I thought
• 36:12
  they they really went all out and put their bodies on the line and almost
• 36:17
  killed themselves. But they put on a great ladder match, I thought.
• 36:22
  And a lot of times, like we give ladder matches that are just kind
• 36:24
  of a cluster of like six guy ladder match that's not that memorable. But
• 36:30
  I thought this. I really liked this match. I liked it a lot.
• 36:34
  We had the crazy ending with probably not that crazy. I think a
• 36:37
  lot of us probably predicted it with Jack Perry coming out. Yeah, I
• 36:45
  like this match. It was maybe my second favorite match of the card,
• 36:49
  but uh probably tied at least with the the pawc Ocada match. I was
• 36:55
  disappointed. Go ahead, now, go I was. I love the match.
• 37:01
  Match was great. The bucks that I think that's their third ladder match
• 37:07
  that I've seen them in in a W and they always put on a great
• 37:10
  match in those. They rival Some of the ones they've done have rivaled the
• 37:15
  originals with the Hardy's and and those guys. But Jack Perry entrance, the
• 37:21
  whole thing with that, I just think they they totally should not have done
• 37:24
  it that way because it made no sense. They they blew They they could
• 37:29
  have and they should have and it would have. It depends. I guess
• 37:31
  it's gonna depend on where he comes in. If he's gonna you know,
• 37:35
  he helped them out, but that doesn't mean he's gonna be with him.
• 37:38
  The elite sign okay, so why not? And they've been doing This is
• 37:44
  where it disappointed me. The elite they he's they you know, he's going
• 37:47
  on about how, uh, he's not going the perry. No. The
• 37:55
  announcers, they're going on about how he's not there. He shouldn't be there.
• 38:00
  It's illegal. He jumped over the barrier. He's trespassing. It would
• 38:05
  have been the perfect opportunity because then the match is over. All they had
• 38:07
  to do is play the ladder. The EVPs should have went into EVP mode
• 38:13
  and told the guards leave him alone and then he celebrated, but they didn't.
• 38:17
  And now, to me, just it just ruined the whole thing.
• 38:22
  There's no sense in having him do it because he was there for two seconds,
• 38:27
  he knocked one guy off the ladder, gave him the win, but
• 38:30
  then he's being escorted out of the ring. It didn't make no sense because
• 38:34
  technically he's not out of contract with AW so it's not trespassing. I was
• 38:38
  just part of the show, I know, but it's just I know what
• 38:43
  you're saying because I'm big on logic. What about you and net, I
• 38:46
  mean, how did you feel about this match? I think that maybe the
• 38:52
  EVPs will address the behavior of Jack Perry next week. They'll give them something
• 38:59
  that's talk about about how you know he he broke some rules there. I
• 39:07
  I loved the match. I love seeing the e vps and ladder matches.
• 39:13
  It's some of my favorite thing in wrestling with them. They did a lot
• 39:22
  of good stuff. I like to throwback to the to the earlier matches when
• 39:30
  I was in Hardwood took off Matt Shoe. M h. Yeah, that's
• 39:35
  that's like a throwback to like one of their first matches together in a w
• 39:43
  and I caught it. I don't know how many other people people caught that,
• 39:47
  but I thought that that was pretty neat, and I like the chance
• 39:54
  from the crowds telling them to be careful. It's that everyone was into the
• 40:00
  match and enjoying what they were seeing. I really liked it. I thought
• 40:07
  FTR also really held their own and on a good performance. They didn't disappoint
• 40:14
  either. And you know, I I did not kind of spoil this one
• 40:20
  for myself, so I really didn't know who was going to win. So
• 40:23
  I was kind of on the edge of my seat during the whole match about
• 40:27
  who was really going to take it until Jack Perry with that porcelain face came
• 40:32
  running out there. It was was that porcelain like Dalface. Did you guys
• 40:42
  see the fan video that showed Jack Perry walking into the arena from yeah way
• 40:47
  and he was walking and the woman that was taken I guess it was the
• 40:52
  I know it was a woman. I don't know if she was actually taking
• 40:52
  a video, but I assumed she was taking the video he was. He
• 40:57
  walked in and he walked, you know, good between the aisles, like
• 41:00
  three hundred feet, and she as soon as she saw, she's like,
• 41:02
  there's there. He is, you know, she tagged it right away.
• 41:07
  I was pretty impressed with that look. Earlier in the show that I had
• 41:10
  said that I had a little bit of a prediction about Jack Perry. Here's
• 41:14
  my prediction. I think you're gonna see, and I'm going to base this
• 41:19
  on something that happened shortly after Jack Perry was suspended, and what he did
• 41:27
  was he trademarked Jurassic Express. I think you're going to see. I think
• 41:35
  you're going to see eventually, probably not right away, but I think you're
• 41:38
  going to see eventually Jack Perry get back together with Lucasaurus, not kill switch,
• 41:45
  because I think that patriarchy is going to go bye bye, because Christian
• 41:51
  is going to go with Copeland. So that tag team, though I don't
• 41:58
  know, you know, I'm just saying that they. I haven't gotten that
• 42:00
  far yet, you know, But I did say that. So let's get
• 42:04
  onto the nets match. Next next match, which featured Adam Cole getting out
• 42:09
  of his wheelchair and walking rather sprightly down the ramp to the ring. I
• 42:15
  say that about the match because I couldn't give a rats ass about this match.
• 42:21
  I'm sorry. Roderick Strong is just you know, Roderick Strong is the
• 42:28
  curity in security insomnia to me, And I'm sorry. I love Kyle O'Reilly
• 42:34
  when he was here before, but he's he just there's something odd about him.
• 42:37
  He kind of looks like two day o cadaver to me. I mean,
• 42:42
  he just doesn't look right. I mean, yeah, but he was
• 42:45
  diabetic, but he looked good what he was here before. Yeah, he
• 42:49
  just I get nervous watching him. He just does not look right. His
• 42:52
  collar is off, his eyes are sunken. Uh, the long hair is
• 42:57
  doing nothing for him. He just looked like I mean, I mean it
• 43:00
  looks like if if I were going to cast a cadaver for a remake of
• 43:05
  Weekend at Bernie's, I would cast Kyle O'Reilly, you know, because I
• 43:08
  mean, he just looks the part. I mean, he's scared. I'm
• 43:10
  not saying that to be insulting. I'm really concerned for him. But you
• 43:15
  know, hey, we knew that Roderick Strong was going to win this match.
• 43:19
  The Undisputed Kingdom can't lose a belt like this, you know, on
• 43:23
  the first defense, because this was Roderick Strong's first defense. It's this match,
• 43:30
  This match one of the worst matches of the night, not for the
• 43:36
  wrestling, but because it was essentially a glorified jobber match. I'm sorry,
• 43:42
  but it was. Yeah, Like I enjoyed the match itself, Like I
• 43:46
  think, yeah, some of the storytelling around it, Undisputed Kingdom has not
• 43:52
  been a strong point of the show, and I think that being the main
• 43:58
  story behind this makes it less interesting. But like the match itself. Roderick
• 44:02
  Strong, like the announcers were saying that he's he's kind of like this generation's
• 44:07
  Dean Malenko, And I always think that when I look at him, just
• 44:10
  something about him looks like Dean Malenko like his body shape, but yeah,
• 44:15
  he's he's a super talented wrestler, and he's also a guy that's into like
• 44:21
  martial arts and carries a lot of that in how he wrestles. And same
• 44:25
  with Kyle o'reiley. They're both like hard hitting, technical wrestlers and that I
• 44:31
  find it really fun to watch that style of match. So I enjoyed the
• 44:37
  match itself. I'd probably say it's like the fifth best match of the go
• 44:40
  for me. I'd give it probably like a B plus rather than a D
• 44:45
  minus. And I thought when when Adam cole came out at the end and
• 44:52
  he looked at Wardlow, he gave him like a death stare, I thought
• 44:58
  that that was probably the most interesting thing that the Undisputed Kingdom has done in
• 45:04
  months. So yeah, thank god they have Adam Cole back, because he's
• 45:08
  a super talented guy and he's interesting and he can make that group a lot
• 45:15
  more exciting. No one else says anything to say thinking about it, I
• 45:25
  actually would have put that match on the pre show and moved the Trio's title
• 45:30
  match to the show compared to the two because I just don't see anything good
• 45:36
  about Roderick strong. Don't like his act. He's not a strong character in
• 45:42
  the group, you know, his whole Adam, that whole thing got on
• 45:47
  my nerves like two minutes after it started, because it's just it's just I
• 45:51
  don't know, it's just degrading on my nerves and it's just juvenile. Yeah,
• 45:54
  it's not only that, but a good way and huh yeah, well
• 46:00
  you know seriously though, because a lot of rustlers at their gimmicks, they
• 46:02
  do juvenile stuff, but it works. This just didn't work right, It
• 46:07
  didn't work. It's still not working, and it will continue not to work.
• 46:12
  I mean, he's not really changed from that. The thought the thing
• 46:15
  I thought was funny was or there was was good about it was the fact
• 46:21
  after the fact, finding out that Wardlow was in an accident before that happened,
• 46:25
  right his car up against the guard rail. He looked like you could
• 46:30
  have been in really bad shape, and uh you really couldn't tell anything was
• 46:32
  wrong with him. So that was kind of a good thing. But uh,
• 46:36
  I see, ah, I see a cutting of the strings with him,
• 46:39
  which would be a good thing for Wardlow. Yeah, but poor Wordlow,
• 46:44
  he had he's kind of lost, you know, so I hope he
• 46:45
  does find something to do, whether on his own or with other people.
• 46:50
  Not did you get a chance to think about it yet? Do you have
• 46:52
  anything to say about this match? I think that the problem with there was
• 46:58
  a problem with that match. I think it is overall quite good, but
• 47:01
  you have to really be the kind of wrestling fan that likes the hitting and
• 47:08
  the counters to the hitting and not. That's not everyone's cup of tea.
• 47:16
  So I think that's kind of where it fell flat. But I think the
• 47:22
  wrestling itself from them both was good. I agree roder Strong gets on my
• 47:29
  nerves beyond belief. And I don't know what's going on with Kyle O'Reilly.
• 47:35
  Maybe he's changing his look or something and we're kind of seeing the before stages
• 47:43
  with him. He's always been he's always been kind of weird and hunched over
• 47:49
  like you don't think of it, but he's always kind of been a weird
• 47:52
  guy. Yeah, it always reminded me of the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
• 48:00
  Yes, there's something about them. I think they were both good physically.
• 48:04
  There was like a lot of good physical action and I don't know what Wardlow
• 48:08
  was doing. They they've got to get some help out there for Wardlow.
• 48:14
  I don't know what though, and Adam Adams looks to Wardlow keep making me
• 48:21
  wonder what they're going to do, but they never seem to really execute whatever
• 48:25
  the plan is. So I hope they do that sooner than later. M
• 48:31
  Yeah, that's it. Well, let's move on to the AW Women's World
• 48:37
  Championship match between Timeless Stony's Timeless Stony listen to me, Timeless Tony Storm and
• 48:45
  thunder Rosa. Alex, what is your overall thoughts on this match? Okay?
• 48:52
  I thought it was probably one of Tony storms better matches than their last
• 48:58
  few, definitely better than the one against Tianna Piazzo. But it felt like
• 49:04
  once it got going, it went a little bit more and then it ended
• 49:09
  like it never hit that next gear that I really want to see them,
• 49:14
  especially compared to like Danielson or the FTR match or Pacocatta, Like, you
• 49:20
  know, they're not putting, they're not putting on that type of epic match
• 49:25
  and they should have with like Tony Storm and thunder Rosa. So I do
• 49:30
  feel myself wanting more and it does kind of take a back seat to some
• 49:36
  of those bigger matches because they're just not Yeah, they're just not kicking it
• 49:42
  up to that gear. So yeah, I was I didn't hate it,
• 49:45
  but I was a little bit disappointed. I was. I was disappointed also
• 49:51
  just because I didn't want that outcome. But I thought Thunder looked better in
• 49:54
  that match than she has in recent matches. I thought she she she really
• 50:00
  went after what she wanted to go after, and she was herself more than
• 50:04
  she's been in the past. But there, You're right, there's something that's
• 50:07
  I don't know if for me, if it's because Tony is only the fourth
• 50:12
  defense she's had it since she's had the title, and she's had it for
• 50:15
  a while. I mean, only to have four defenses in that amount of
• 50:19
  time seems kind of bad to me. But I think it's she when she's
• 50:23
  in her matches, her character that she is doing so well with is holding
• 50:29
  her back. It just seems that way to me in the ring, because
• 50:34
  before she became this character, I feel that she did it so much better
• 50:40
  and so much stronger in her matches than she's doing now. Just seem that
• 50:44
  way to me. Anyway, I agree with you, Yeah, her character
• 50:52
  work has been great in rings, she's not been good and this match was
• 50:55
  not good. It was just not good. I'm sorry, but it wasn't
• 50:59
  It never played toad like Alex said, Uh, it just never reached a
• 51:02
  crescendo. It just kind of like the adrenaline never hit, you know.
• 51:09
  And I don't know whose fault it was, or if it was one woman's
• 51:14
  fault or the other women's fault, but this match was a snooze fest.
• 51:16
  I'm sorry, but it was. What did you think that? Oh,
• 51:21
  I'm sorry. I like seeing Deanna come out and fight with Mariah May.
• 51:27
  That was one of the things I enjoyed. I thought. Then Rosa was
• 51:30
  really good. But one of the things I often wonder when I watch women's
• 51:37
  wrestling in AW is if the women are actually holding back a little bit.
• 51:44
  It's it makes me wonder across a couple of matches and if that's because of
• 51:52
  the the audience. I was reading an article about wrestling and it was why
• 52:00
  there are no intergender matches in AEW and it made me start to think about
• 52:06
  the women's division as well. And I've started to wonder if the women hold
• 52:10
  back because there's a perception that no one really wants to see women really fight
• 52:20
  and bloody one another, and you know, really get down and dirty and
• 52:27
  cheat and pull out all the tricks and you know, hit each other with
• 52:30
  chairs and put each other through tables. If they kind of hold back and
• 52:36
  everything is just put into a little box where you fight, but you don't
• 52:43
  fight. If that mats, I don't agree with that, because two of
• 52:47
  the best women's matches you've had on AEW was the Thunder rusat Baker Cage match
• 52:58
  and the street fight between J TJ and I can't remember who they wrestled,
• 53:02
  and the lights out match that was probably one money. Yeah, that was
• 53:09
  one hell of a match, and they didn't hold back. That was blood,
• 53:13
  sweat, tears everywhere. So I think, I think what the part
• 53:19
  of it that do agree with is. I think what happened with that match
• 53:22
  especially, is it seemed like to me that whenever Tony would take control,
• 53:27
  her playing in character would break the flow of the match. If you go
• 53:35
  back and you watch the match, Thunder would get the head of steam going
• 53:37
  and she would start to go where she goes. Tony would take over control
• 53:42
  and then instead of continuing like she used to do before she became this star,
• 53:47
  she would walk around the ring, walk away from Thunder, would talk
• 53:52
  to her, would play to the crowd more, and then it just breaks
• 53:57
  the flow of the match. At least that's what it seemed like to me.
• 54:00
  Right, Well, maybe she's on purpose. Yeah, well, look
• 54:04
  in the end, this is the way I feel about it. I hope
• 54:07
  that Jamie Hayter and or Britt Baker come back soon, because who in the
• 54:10
  hell is Tony Store going to go up against next? Heire Hogan? Seriously,
• 54:20
  you know, Percei's monet is and I just don't see it. I
• 54:27
  know, I just think that I think that Tony Storm has falling into almost
• 54:31
  the Jade Cargill kind of category, where her character is fine, her matches
• 54:40
  are stale, mm hmm, yeah, her promos are good. Yeah,
• 54:49
  but you know, I'm watching professional wrestling. I'm not watching from a world
• 54:53
  and I know, you know, the Mariah May stuff's been fun, and
• 54:58
  and Mina sher Kawan stuff it's been interesting. But yeah, this was a
• 55:02
  real chance to put on like a great match and show that they could hang
• 55:07
  with some of these other great wrestlers like Will Osprey. But they did definitely
• 55:13
  did not do that well. Speaking of Will Osprey, Alex, let's move
• 55:20
  on. Yeah, so yeah, Button, what did you think of this
• 55:24
  match? I'll let you go first before well, look, you know,
• 55:29
  I'm just gonna say this, this match was by far the best match of
• 55:34
  the night, best match of the year, maybe even the best match of
• 55:37
  the century so far. Uh. I'm just I don't want to repeat anything
• 55:44
  the one, you know, because everything we're gonna say is, oh,
• 55:47
  this was so good, it's so good, so good whatever. I want
• 55:51
  to get props to the crowd because they they didn't even touch each other,
• 55:57
  they were standing across from each other, just looking each other, and the
• 56:00
  crowd lost their ever loving minds. That was amazing. I got to give
• 56:06
  props to Saint Louis. The wrestling crowd at Saint Louis was fantastic. And
• 56:12
  you can't tell me that that did affect the match, because I think it
• 56:15
  hyped up both Danielson and Osprey to put on the best match they possibly could.
• 56:19
  They delivered. The crowd loved it. Every I've not heard anybody say,
• 56:22
  well that betch wasn't as good as people said it. It was every
• 56:25
  bit as good as everybody said. It would be, plain and simple.
• 56:29
  It was it was a fantastic match. The ending. I'm hoping that Brian
• 56:35
  Danielson went a little bit over the top and sold it, but they they
• 56:37
  did carry it. They did. You know, it's part of the story.
• 56:43
  So let's just see what happens. I told my son, I said
• 56:46
  Danielson might want to not wrestle in another pay per view match, because it
• 56:52
  seemed like every pay per view he wrestles in a big match like this,
• 56:55
  he gets hurt. Even if it's a work, he still worked that.
• 56:59
  He got hurt. Okada Forbidden Door last year broke his arm. This time
• 57:05
  it was it was a I loved everything about it. The ending kind of
• 57:09
  was a little worrisome. They both sold it really good though. If it's
• 57:14
  a work, and if you watch it close, it's a work because there's
• 57:19
  there. He didn't hit his head, he landed where he's supposed to land.
• 57:22
  It just looked bad. I mean, I watched it. I watched
• 57:25
  it. Uh. I watched it on a site I go to that I
• 57:29
  can get things from on their replay, and I went there and I washed
• 57:34
  it back and you clearly see him land on his shoulders like the move is
• 57:37
  supposed to. But it just he saw he sells that stuff so good.
• 57:43
  But I think, like you said, and we said I said earlier,
• 57:45
  I think he ever sold it a lot. Yeah. Yeah, it was
• 57:52
  a shocking moment and it seemed like, oh my god, is he really
• 57:55
  hurt. But the fact that he got up and walked out perfect for the
• 58:00
  Hidden Blade afterwards, I think that made me feel like, Okay, this
• 58:05
  is this is clearly just part of it, and they're kind of making that
• 58:08
  move more important and building some story around that, and it's maybe gonna lead
• 58:16
  to will ospray. You know, maybe in the future he loses a match
• 58:22
  because he's no longer willing to go to that level. He's retiring the move,
• 58:30
  yeah, he said. And I think that's probably just a storyline thing,
• 58:34
  like maybe now he can pull it out again and everyone's like, oh
• 58:37
  my god, he's he's pulled out the retired move. Yeah. I feel
• 58:42
  like it's all just part of the story. But I don't know. Sometimes
• 58:46
  I'm just completely wrong with that and he's really hurt though I don't know,
• 58:52
  we'll find out later. Yeah, but yeah, what I want to say,
• 58:59
  like, this is a thirty minute match. It was amazing. I
• 59:04
  know, it was great because the fact that I was able to watch it
• 59:07
  again with my wife because she missed it. So I watched it twice,
• 59:10
  and the second time I watched it, I wanted it to keep going longer
• 59:15
  than it was. Like I I could see the end was happening, and
• 59:19
  I was like, oh, like, that's too bad. I wanted to
• 59:22
  keep going, and I remembered it going longer though I don't know, Yeah,
• 59:25
  it was a really great match, and like fifteen minutes into it,
• 59:30
  I was watching and I was thinking in my head like, uh, you
• 59:35
  know, this isn't anything too special so far, and then it I think
• 59:39
  it was. I don't know, there was some point where it just really
• 59:44
  clicked for me, and I would like I thought it was like all good
• 59:47
  wrestling matches. It started off as a chess match and then turned into a
• 59:51
  hockey fight basically. So, but no, what did you think about this?
• 59:57
  It's one of the best matches I've scene I I liked it. I
• 1:00:02
  liked everything about it. I think that Don Callous did a very good job
• 1:00:10
  of planting the seeds that he has been doing about Osprey having too much that
• 1:00:22
  he likes his opponents too much to be in the callous family that he's not
• 1:00:30
  as disrespectful and as hardened. You know, he wants to be friends and
• 1:00:35
  respect everybody. I think that Danielson very well may be hurt because that was
• 1:00:42
  a hard hitting match. Maybe he sold it a little bit, went a
• 1:00:46
  little over the top with how much he's hurt, but I think he might
• 1:00:50
  be hurt. I really liked it all all around. I thought it was
• 1:00:55
  great. So yeah, as anybody else has anything to say about this match
• 1:01:04
  at all before we moved on to the main event. All right, so
• 1:01:09
  let's move on to the main event, which was We're Strickland against Samoa Joe
• 1:01:13
  for the aw Men's World Championship. Look, I'm just gonna go ahead and
• 1:01:19
  say it. This was a good moment, not a great match. I
• 1:01:24
  mean it was obvious Samoa Joe basically laid down for Swerve Strickland. I mean,
• 1:01:29
  there was nothing special about the match at all, but it provided a
• 1:01:34
  great moment. I'm happy for Swerve. I you know, I think Samoa
• 1:01:39
  Joe did a fantastic job with the belt and kept it interesting, and that's
• 1:01:46
  really all I have to say about it. Mm hmm, Yeah, I
• 1:01:51
  think I agree fully. It was like because the FTR Bucks match was so
• 1:01:57
  good and that was in the death spot. It's like, now the main
• 1:02:00
  event is now the death spot because for me, I can barely even remember
• 1:02:06
  this match after those two matches, Like you're coming down and I wasn't fully
• 1:02:14
  paying attention. I started paying attention when it was like close to the end
• 1:02:19
  and it looked like Swerve was finally taking it home. Nice for Swerve to
• 1:02:23
  win, But yeah, I think this match definitely suffered just from being the
• 1:02:29
  last match on a pretty stacked card, especially the last three matches being so
• 1:02:35
  good. Yeah, they need to start rethinking that a little bit in some
• 1:02:40
  ways, because they do that sometimes too much. But they'll have a very
• 1:02:45
  superior match, like the opening match with Akata and Pack was far better than
• 1:02:52
  the final match, and it just doesn't make any sense to put those matches
• 1:02:57
  in that order, especially when you're not going to give them people the match
• 1:03:01
  they want to see. Yeah, you know, it did. I don't
• 1:03:06
  really remember much of except I know that there was a a a was it
• 1:03:10
  a slam on the concrete on the outside The Swerve got slam in the concrete
• 1:03:15
  for a second, and then you just seemed to be the next thing,
• 1:03:19
  you know, within five or ten minutes he went in the title and that
• 1:03:22
  was like, okay, yeah, it was. It was. It was
• 1:03:27
  a cookie cutter match, It really was, you know, and I don't
• 1:03:30
  mean that disrespectfully, but they just to me, it was like, okay,
• 1:03:35
  let's just get this over with. M You know, there was nothing
• 1:03:38
  special about the match to me. I don't know how there you know,
• 1:03:40
  if you found anything special about it, but nope, you know you and
• 1:03:46
  I felt that way a lot about Samoa. Joe kind of in general,
• 1:03:51
  like he's he's great, he's he's believable as a champion. You believe he
• 1:03:57
  can beat anyone up, but in terms of like match quality, he's maybe
• 1:04:02
  not the greatest guy to put on awesome made event world title matches. Kind
• 1:04:09
  of get what you're saying. But you know what the thing about somehow with
• 1:04:11
  Joe is that he believes his character believes that it is believable. His character
• 1:04:17
  believes that he can beat anybody up, and you buy into that, even
• 1:04:21
  though he may not beat the most you know, flippity floppity athletics, handsprings
• 1:04:26
  and all that kind of stuff. Dives off the top of a rope kind
• 1:04:30
  of guy. You know, I was a little I don't even remember if
• 1:04:32
  he did his nope move during the match. I mean, the matches seemed
• 1:04:38
  there to me. M yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just too
• 1:04:45
  tired. Yeah yeah, yeah, when you're talking about zero hour and then
• 1:04:50
  a four hour pay per view, five hours worth of wrestling after we just
• 1:04:55
  had three hours of collision and rampage the night before. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:05:00
  and you're a little bit burned out, you know. But you know,
• 1:05:01
  I want to move on. Let's go ahead and do our Dynamite preview.
• 1:05:06
  There's really not a whole lot to talk about here, because, like
• 1:05:10
  we've already talked about Chris Jericho, who is going to be appearing on Dynamite
• 1:05:15
  for the Learning Tree segment. I guess is the best. But we've already
• 1:05:18
  talked about that, you know, So let's move on up to just a
• 1:05:24
  segment between Chuck Taylor and Trent Burretta and Orange Cassidy in what I can only
• 1:05:30
  describe as a eighth grade schoolgirl pow wow in the playground while playing Hopscotch,
• 1:05:36
  Who's your best friend? Yeah? I'm here for it. I like it.
• 1:05:46
  I like this version of Trent Evil. Trent I'm curious to see what
• 1:05:53
  happens because I really think Chuck Taylor could go with Trent. They've been friends
• 1:05:59
  longer. And also one thing that's interesting about this. It was like a
• 1:06:03
  Don Kallas tweet about looking for new members of the Don Kallis family and it
• 1:06:10
  might be people you don't think of. So I think Trent could be a
• 1:06:14
  good candidate for joining the Don Kallas family in the near future. You know,
• 1:06:19
  I really, I mean, I really kind of think you're right there,
• 1:06:23
  because he would look great on that painting. Yeah, and if they
• 1:06:31
  add him, we definitely know the painting is changing. But the problem with
• 1:06:36
  that part is if they're going to put him with Donkallas, you can't take
• 1:06:40
  Chuck with him, because Chuck, no way and hell fits with no Yeah,
• 1:06:45
  no, not Chucky. Somebody to take pins Callas's butler. Again,
• 1:06:53
  I guess I thought that they said that Chuck and Orange had been friends longer,
• 1:06:59
  but they but Chuck and Trent had been tagging for ten years. That's
• 1:07:03
  what I'm thinking. Yeah, wrestling wise, they were the best friends before
• 1:07:09
  Orange Cassidy. I must just I could have swore lest what they said,
• 1:07:14
  but I might have misheard it. But I don't know, this is just
• 1:07:16
  gonna be one of those things. It's I'm not really it doesn't really matter.
• 1:07:23
  Yeah, well, I mean who's your best friend? I mean I
• 1:07:30
  just mistake ever. Yeah, it's cool for you, But coming back in
• 1:07:34
  this one, well, you know ed Ka has joyed us now, so
• 1:07:38
  I want to let him. I mean, is there anything you want to
• 1:07:41
  talk about with Chris Jericho or even you could even talk about Chris Jericho,
• 1:07:45
  but of course we want to hear your thoughts on the who's your best friend?
• 1:07:50
  I you know, I'm interested in and in both of those honestly,
• 1:07:56
  because Jericho. I I'm just I'm sorry. I'm I'm a comment watcher everywhere
• 1:08:03
  I go and I like to see people reaction, and people are going ballistic
• 1:08:09
  over this Jericho winning, which we all predicted it would happen, I believe
• 1:08:12
  most of us did, and people are like, why did he win and
• 1:08:15
  said, well, du he hasn't continued this story. You know, Jericho's
• 1:08:17
  not gonna lose twice in a row. And he's eating this stuff up,
• 1:08:23
  and I hope he leans into it so much that he you know, he's
• 1:08:26
  turning into the very thing that CM Punk was saying that young wrestlers do and
• 1:08:30
  they don't listen to the learning tree and all this, and I think that's
• 1:08:33
  where it's going. Maybe is a little slight poke of fun at that thing.
• 1:08:38
  But I'm loving it. I know Alex loves it too. It's just
• 1:08:44
  different and people just want to grab all over Jericho for no reason. I'm
• 1:08:47
  sorry. I like the guy. I know people need to break from him,
• 1:08:50
  but he still does the job that he needs to do and with Orange
• 1:08:54
  Cassidy, and then I love this too. You know, I still don't
• 1:08:57
  know what was said between bat Lander and France. You know, something may
• 1:09:03
  have been whispered there about why, and maybe that's why that's really been silent
• 1:09:09
  on it too. Maybe there's something churning with Maybe Orange Cassidy may not be
• 1:09:16
  a baby face anymore as he once was. Maybe something's up with that too,
• 1:09:19
  So anything can happen. It's aw Orange Cassidy became a little stale a
• 1:09:26
  little bit, in my opinion. Maybe he needs some a good storyline that'll,
• 1:09:30
  you lit'll take him on for a little bit and give him a little
• 1:09:33
  more darker edge. So I don't know. Yeah, well, Orange Cassidy's
• 1:09:42
  been stale since his first run with the International Championship. That was preposterous.
• 1:09:45
  So, I mean it was like rinse repeat. You can't tell me you
• 1:09:48
  could tell one match from the other. During that whole, like two thirds
• 1:09:54
  of that entire run, everything was the same exact match over and over again.
• 1:09:57
  It's a waste of time. I disagree it. I don't think you
• 1:10:02
  should have had a second time in my opinion, that's where I would have
• 1:10:05
  drawn the line. But I think his first was good. That the second,
• 1:10:10
  to me, was better than the first because at least the second match
• 1:10:13
  had something different happened. The first one was the same match every week.
• 1:10:21
  I agree to disagree, but uh, that's a beautiful thing about wrestling.
• 1:10:28
  Yeah. Well, let's move on to John Moxley and Powerhouse Hobbs. Look,
• 1:10:33
  I mean, nobody expects Powerhouse Hobbs to beat John Moxley, but there
• 1:10:38
  may be some story here. I mean, Powerhouse Hobbs is not going to
• 1:10:42
  be the IWGP World Heavyweight Champion after tomorrow night, let's just face it.
• 1:10:46
  But could we see some story on on here? Yeah? I'm interested in.
• 1:10:54
  I know Powerhouse Hobbs is not gonna win, but he could be a
• 1:10:57
  really cool Japan, Like he could have a really cool run in Japan if
• 1:11:02
  he did win, like going back to like Vader or some of the big
• 1:11:10
  American wrestlers that they've had historically over there. Stan Hansen, he definitely fits
• 1:11:15
  in that mold. Yeah, yeah, at one point I believe I would.
• 1:11:27
  I would see him more though with the Strong title taking it from Eddie
• 1:11:33
  mm hmm, but that's more of like an American title. I'm just thinking,
• 1:11:39
  yeah, yeah, yeah, the Strong, the Strong Championships already American
• 1:11:43
  brand of the titles. M you know, I don't know his name,
• 1:11:49
  but there is that Japanese wrestler that I believe it was. Earlier today,
• 1:11:56
  uh issued a statement about Powerhouse Hobbs, saying that he could not come to
• 1:12:02
  Japan and defend a title, and Hobbs said, anybody can get it,
• 1:12:09
  So Yoda Yoda Suji. He's kind of one of the up and comer guys.
• 1:12:14
  He's probably like the next face of New Japan. Well maybe they're making
• 1:12:18
  them. Maybe maybe that's planning a seat for Forbidden Doormatch that. Yeah.
• 1:12:24
  I'm just saying, maybe he'll he'll be coming through, because it just seemed
• 1:12:28
  out of nowhere and it made me say, you know, I wouldn't mind
• 1:12:32
  saying hobbs in Japan, so who knows. Yeah, yeah, there is
• 1:12:39
  like some storylines going on in New Japan about how they're feel like, you
• 1:12:45
  know, Hiroshi Tanahashi, the president of New Japan, is favoring aw letting
• 1:12:49
  John Moxley win the title, and they're showing displeasure and and maybe they're setting
• 1:12:58
  up some more introting matches for Forbidden Door than they've had in the past,
• 1:13:01
  like moreaks behind them. And I have a theory about that too. But
• 1:13:10
  you know, let's move on because we're talking about John Moxley powers There's no
• 1:13:15
  way Powerhouse Off is winning the speaking speaking of no way that they're gonna win.
• 1:13:21
  Uh, spur Strickland is making his first title defense against Kyle Fletcher.
• 1:13:29
  Again, this is probably about story and probably just about giving Swerve a chance
• 1:13:34
  to come out there with his brand new shiny belt and show it off to
• 1:13:41
  the home crowd in Jacksonville, Florida. I mean, what else could it
• 1:13:44
  possibly be? Guys? Actually it's an eliminator match, so you already know
• 1:13:47
  what's gonna happen. Well, I don't know, I don't know. What's
• 1:13:55
  gonna happen? So tell us it's when have they had an eliminator match where
• 1:14:00
  the challenger is won? I don't think they've ever. I remember that me
• 1:14:08
  Yamashida beat on the Rosa an eliminator match in Japan. I remember that.
• 1:14:13
  But I think there's been a couple more one and so, I mean,
• 1:14:20
  it's gonna be good to see him come out as a champ and and but
• 1:14:25
  I I don't see where it makes any sense to get he's jumping right into
• 1:14:31
  the don Kallis family feud with them when he's had all this other stuff going
• 1:14:35
  with I guess, I guess you can't really do it with some mojo and
• 1:14:40
  nobody knows where cowboys at, so I guess there is a rule. I
• 1:14:45
  guess he's got to start his title run somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, And
• 1:14:50
  it's it's not even a feud, it's just that the Callus family jumps into
• 1:14:56
  everything. You can't wrestle one of them without all of to them getting involved
• 1:15:00
  there like ants. Yeah, they're like ants at the picnic. So yeah,
• 1:15:05
  Kyle Fletcher is like he's a level above Shane Taylor promotion Brian Keith,
• 1:15:12
  But he he's that guy that's Demi incredible, but he loses. But that's
• 1:15:17
  I think why he's there. He's really talented. He's he's got to go
• 1:15:21
  places. But we'll see tomorrow night. I think about that is they have
• 1:15:30
  the they still keep doing the United Empire. He keeps splashing the hands on
• 1:15:38
  and they're not talking about it. It's all about the Callous Family. What's
• 1:15:45
  that Bobbs at one point was mocking him and doing the symbol. Yeah,
• 1:15:51
  I mean, I think that they need to figure out what they're going to
• 1:15:56
  do there with that sooner than later, because it's starting to get to the
• 1:16:00
  point where I think they're getting the Callous Family a little stretched out into the
• 1:16:08
  thing because they're they're messing with the BCC, they're messing with uh now,
• 1:16:13
  the Champ. They're messing with all these different people, and it's going to
• 1:16:17
  start sending out the storylines and you need to get that to They're not they're
• 1:16:21
  not making a clear cut done with the storyline for that and then and moving
• 1:16:26
  on to something else, which I think is going to latin lessen the impact
• 1:16:30
  of the Callous Family. H m hmmm. Like one thing I can say
• 1:16:36
  is that don Kallis family. I guess before will Osprey showed up, they
• 1:16:41
  were just like m I A. They were just not featured at all on
• 1:16:45
  TV. So I'm happy that they're back, but it is kind of weird
• 1:16:50
  now they're going into major feuds seemingly if Swerve is going to feud with them
• 1:16:57
  as well. So I don't know, just yeah, maybe not yeah,
• 1:17:01
  but have you noticed that Swerve didn't come out two weeks in a row and
• 1:17:04
  just talk. Uh, not that I'm taking a chot at anything else,
• 1:17:10
  but you know, they're actually putting him out there like unlike some other companies
• 1:17:15
  that like to parade their world champion around, Swerve get into business and we'll
• 1:17:19
  see where where it heads. I really, I think it's just just a
• 1:17:29
  blow in the water. I don't think of have anything to do with the
• 1:17:31
  Calis family that much. They got their eyes on other things. Mm hmm.
• 1:17:40
  My question is who who's going to come out first on Dynamite? Is
• 1:17:45
  it going to be Swerve or John Moxley Moxley, because if it's it's going
• 1:17:53
  to be Moxley exactly without a twenty minute promo about how great is Yeah.
• 1:18:01
  Well look, okay, I'm gonna apologize to you right now because I'm gonna
• 1:18:05
  droll on about a woman's match now because I have a lot to say about
• 1:18:11
  this one. Uh. We're of course talking about Marina, I mean Marina
• 1:18:15
  Mina Shirakawa with Maria Mayner corner against Anna Jay. And this is going to
• 1:18:25
  go back to what we were talking about earlier about thunder Rosa and Tony Storm.
• 1:18:30
  And news broke yesterday that New Japan Pro Wrestling is actually acquiring their sister
• 1:18:36
  company, Stardom, So it's not really that big of a deal other than
• 1:18:43
  the fact that it's going to make things like International Wrestling and things like that
• 1:18:48
  a lot a lot easier. And they have run into conflicts in scheduling between
• 1:18:55
  the two companies in the past. Now they're not going to run into these
• 1:18:58
  conflicts, so the WGP Women's Championship will not be interfering with the Stardom Championships
• 1:19:05
  and things like that. Okay, So that being said, we have Mina
• 1:19:10
  shi Kawa against Anta Jay. Here is my spicy prediction of the night.
• 1:19:16
  There's actually a couple here. I would not be surprised if he Mellow showed
• 1:19:23
  up tomorrow night to help out a beatdown of Anna Jay by both Mina Shirkawa
• 1:19:29
  and Mariah May. But more importantly, I think that what we're going to
• 1:19:33
  see is possibly a double or nothing match between as was earlier stated, between
• 1:19:47
  Tony Storm and Chris Statlanders set up. Tony Storm is going to win that
• 1:19:54
  match. There is no way in hell that Chris Statlander is going to win
• 1:19:58
  a match, especially considering she's not really want a whole hell of a lot
• 1:20:00
  in the last few weeks. Okay, Ultimately, what's what I feel is
• 1:20:06
  going to happen, and this is the spicy prediction part. Mina Shirakawa will
• 1:20:12
  face Tony Storm at Forbidden Door, and Mina Shirakawa will defeat Tony Storm at
• 1:20:20
  Forbidden Door, and for a very brief period of time, you will have
• 1:20:26
  a stardom wrestler with the a W Women's World Championship, And like I said,
• 1:20:34
  this will open up the door for AW women to go to Japan and
• 1:20:41
  fight for it. I would say Mina Shirkawa will hold that title for about
• 1:20:46
  three or four weeks before somebody like thunder Rosa for example, goes over to
• 1:20:51
  Japan or here in the United States and and and wins it wins it back.
• 1:20:59
  But I do. I think it would be a great gesture and actually
• 1:21:04
  a really good move because Minna shi Kawa is over with American audiences already.
• 1:21:11
  They love her. How could you not? You know? I think it
• 1:21:14
  would be a great move for a American belt to go to Japan. I
• 1:21:19
  agree in just a little while, because look at we had Eddie Kingston had
• 1:21:25
  had the Strong Championship, although the Strong Championship isn't necessarily seen as as it's
• 1:21:31
  more of an Americanized Japanese belt, but John Boxley has the iw GP.
• 1:21:39
  Why not? That's all I'm saying is why not me to Mina shi Kawa
• 1:21:44
  is she's a great character. She's very polarizing. She's not like going to
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  be ever be as good in the ring as say it Tam Nakano you know,
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  or sorry or you know, maybe a couple others. But it's got
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  that big personality that transcends language barriers, and uh, I think she would
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  be a perfect match, a forbidden door for Tony Storm, which they've already
• 1:22:11
  started to set up. They already did, but I'll go you one better.
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  I'll go you one better. It starts that build up starts tomorrow night.
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  Because you have mirrorsir Kawa. With my brain's not working with uh,
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  I can't get yeah, miriamey. I'll get there eventually. And Tony is
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  not gonna like that at all. So I think that Tony's gonna come out
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  and there's gonna start the commentation. They're gonna start two things tomorrow night with
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  that. They're gonna set up the about that you mentioned that the thing,
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  and I agree, I think they should have that. Toime, it seems
• 1:22:54
  odd that they've never done that. You to do, don't You don't think
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  it's right? Yeah, because because New Japan has always had their titles here
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  but we've never had ours there. That makes no sense to me. And
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  and and it kind of goes back to it kind of for me, it
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  kind of goes back to part of the reason why in the old days when
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  we wanted like WWE, this doesn't exist, but WWE wanted to work with
• 1:23:19
  other people, but they wouldn't because it was always about WWE. And to
• 1:23:25
  me, they're partnering with New Japan and with this, you know that all
• 1:23:30
  these other places CML and all those but all we get is the talent.
• 1:23:35
  They don't get anything exchange for that, and it kind of seems odd to
• 1:23:39
  me that that's they I agree with you one hundred percent on that. I
• 1:23:43
  think that's what they should do. But I think tomorrow night we start Tony's
• 1:23:47
  meltdown because Mariah, she's gonna feel that. The whole interaction between Mariah and
• 1:23:55
  Nira are are going to start the meltdown for her, and I think that's
• 1:23:59
  what's going to end that character when she finally gets beat at at Forbidden Door.
• 1:24:05
  I really hope for it, I really do, because I think interesting,
• 1:24:09
  I think I don't see I don't see that character going away because it's
• 1:24:15
  a popular character. She won't devolve back into the regular Tony Storm. But
• 1:24:19
  I I had to say, I agree with it. It would be great
• 1:24:25
  because the Dominoes are now falling into place of a situation where they can trust
• 1:24:30
  each other enough to work together with New Japan, and hopefully we do we
• 1:24:35
  do see that and see some more wrestlers come over here. The women's division
• 1:24:42
  is great right now, but adding in other players from different countries can help
• 1:24:47
  us a lot to really, you know, the mainstream audience does not know
• 1:24:54
  New Japan wrestler. We're all, not like Kelson, who knows everything to
• 1:24:57
  know about New Japan wrestling. So I don't know a lot about the Japan
• 1:25:00
  wrestling at all. I do know about stardom because I love stardom. Yeah,
• 1:25:04
  it will start them. I mean, that's what we need. We
• 1:25:06
  need international flavor. We need no more. And for Rush to say,
• 1:25:11
  hey, we had the best, and they keep on saying the word we
• 1:25:15
  the best wrestle here, Well let's prove it with women's division and that other
• 1:25:19
  way that we can compete with international stars as well. Right, well,
• 1:25:26
  you know the only other option, you know, I will throw it out
• 1:25:28
  is Stephanie Becker, you know from CMML c MLL, who is the iw
• 1:25:32
  GP champion right now. But I don't want to see that belt for belt
• 1:25:39
  going with Tony Storm because I just don't want to see like the w Championship
• 1:25:45
  on Stephanie and I don't want to see the iw GP Championship on Tony.
• 1:25:48
  I would much rather see somebody like Mina Shiri Kawa take the belt to stardom.
• 1:25:55
  Who actually, you know, with Rossi Galla starting Mirrorgold, the the
• 1:26:00
  roster is a little bit depleted, not too bad, but it is somewhat
• 1:26:03
  depleted, you know, noticeably depleted. Having the aw Women's World Championship and
• 1:26:10
  stardom for if it's just a cup of coffee would be a huge deal,
• 1:26:17
  and it would make it deal, and it would make it a world title.
• 1:26:21
  Absolutely. I thought that was so funny when you had a company that
• 1:26:27
  worked in one place call their title a world title because it's not a world
• 1:26:32
  title. I'm sorry. WWE title is not a world title because it's only
• 1:26:36
  defended in the WWE. You don't have it go anywhere else. The only
• 1:26:42
  one that I can think of that as an actual world title is the new
• 1:26:45
  Japan IWGP title because Moxley's had it, you know, it's been everywhere.
• 1:26:51
  That title is definitely is definitely a world title because it's actually been defended all
• 1:26:56
  over the world. The international title didn't that start as something else and then
• 1:27:02
  because they defended it in the UK, it upgrade. It started as the
• 1:27:10
  yeah something like that, yeah, but yeah, yeah title maybe yeah yeah.
• 1:27:15
  But these titles are like the uh, the Miss Universe of wrestling.
• 1:27:19
  You know, let's face that. The Miss Universe pageant is really cool.
• 1:27:23
  I mean I haven't watched it in about twenty five years. But it's really
• 1:27:26
  cool. But let's face that, somebody from Earth always wins, grew to
• 1:27:30
  rest of the universe. Don't be too surprised about that. Something about that
• 1:27:32
  don't change soon. Told us they're here, so you know, you never
• 1:27:39
  know, but immediately wrestling, then you have a universal title. Somebody's gonna
• 1:27:45
  come up with a universal title. Well, we're from Venus and that is
• 1:27:48
  from Mars. No, wait a minute, no, that is from Venus
• 1:27:53
  and I we're from Mars. I messed that up. Wow, yes they're
• 1:27:57
  here. Learned to really think about that right now? Man, uh huh
• 1:28:02
  no, but I really do. I mean I do think aj Mayshaw they
• 1:28:08
  reunite tomorrow night. Okay. The only thing I gotta say about that is
• 1:28:12
  there was a vlog I think it was like this week's vlog that they are
• 1:28:17
  in Europe. They were in Italy and Rome on a family trips. So
• 1:28:23
  I don't know that there. Actually that might have been last weekend. They
• 1:28:27
  might be back now, but that might be they might be out of the
• 1:28:30
  country right now. Yeah, Well, things usually a week ahead, so
• 1:28:34
  well it used to be a week behind, so uh yeah, we'll see
• 1:28:40
  with her. What makes you think though that is coming back. She's been
• 1:28:45
  uh you know, she's has been showing pictures of her working out and she
• 1:28:50
  I believe she even made a post about three weeks ago where she says,
• 1:28:54
  I'm almost there. Yeah. Energy has kind of just been in the spot
• 1:29:00
  where she's there but not doing anything, so that would be at her story.
• 1:29:10
  Yeah. I mean, you know, I the women's division for me
• 1:29:15
  right now is more interesting than men's division because the men's division has there's not
• 1:29:21
  many options. But with the women's division, when you think about all the
• 1:29:26
  people I made a post about it last week. When you look at the
• 1:29:30
  uh the TBS Championship picture, you look at the World Championship picture, and
• 1:29:35
  even the Serita deeb and uh oh god Sa Deep and Yukaza Kazaki, which
• 1:29:45
  gosh, I hope she's okay. Uh thing. There were eleven different women
• 1:29:49
  involved in storylines for two belts and the thing. That's a lot, and
• 1:29:57
  they're doing it so well, you know so, and I think that's why
• 1:30:01
  you were so down on Dynasty because you know, for me, there was
• 1:30:05
  like thick, good to great matches and neither of them, neither of the
• 1:30:13
  women's matches were up there. Well now it wasn't even that. Look,
• 1:30:16
  here's here's why I was a little bit. Not that I was negative on
• 1:30:20
  Dynasty. I did enjoy Dynasty. I just don't think that it lived up
• 1:30:25
  to my expectations. And I think Shad's the Vibe said it the best,
• 1:30:30
  right. He said that there were a lot of great moments at Dynasty,
• 1:30:36
  and there were there were a lot of great moments at Dynasty. Willow winning
• 1:30:42
  the championship was a great moment. Swerve winning the championship was a great moment,
• 1:30:46
  you know, the unification of the of the Trio Spelts was a great
• 1:30:53
  moment. You know, things that happened. You know. You can even
• 1:30:57
  argue that Chris Jericho's little whatever he's trying to do is a moment as well.
• 1:31:01
  The fact of the matter, though, is that you're talking about moments,
• 1:31:05
  not matches. The only matches that I've really heard people, you know,
• 1:31:11
  Jack Perry showed up as a great moment, but those moments took away
• 1:31:15
  from most of the matches. The only match really that didn't have a moment
• 1:31:19
  take away from it was the Osprey and Danielson match, because that match in
• 1:31:25
  and of itself was a thirty minute moment match to me, yeah, absolutely,
• 1:31:35
  And I get what you're saying, but the only see I just don't
• 1:31:42
  see it that. I don't see that. I see what I get the
• 1:31:44
  whole thing, I just don't look at it that way because the only matches
• 1:31:48
  that really bothered me in that whole thing was the Kyler Rally, and in
• 1:31:53
  that match, that match could have just been not even there, and the
• 1:31:58
  the women's and in the main event ending as if the injuries were like,
• 1:32:04
  there's just they You could have did that whole pay per view without those three
• 1:32:10
  matches and it would have been as good as it was, right, I
• 1:32:14
  mean, three matches were nothing. Let me explain it to you the best
• 1:32:17
  way I can six months from now looking back, and you could just probably
• 1:32:21
  say, hey, do you remember that Brian Danielson and will Osprey match?
• 1:32:25
  Oh? Hell yeah? Who could forget that? Hey do you remember to
• 1:32:28
  Kyle O'Reilly and Roderk strong match, or to Willow Knightingale and Julia hart Maatcher,
• 1:32:32
  to Chris Jericho and Hook match, or the you know, Prett Berretta
• 1:32:36
  and Matt Sidel match, et cetera, et cetera, and so on and
• 1:32:40
  so on there are very fow the twelve matches that took place, there's maybe
• 1:32:44
  three, including maybe the Ocada Well not maybe, but I think that I
• 1:32:47
  would remember the Okada back match because I really hope that this is the first
• 1:32:53
  match in a series of matches between these guys. Uh, you're not gonna
• 1:32:57
  remember for the matches you remember you, I mean, are you gonna remember
• 1:33:01
  to match the ladder match between F t R and I think so? I
• 1:33:05
  think remember the moment without carry. Oh, I think I'm gonna remember Cash
• 1:33:12
  doing that dive through the table. Yeah, the pile driver on the ladder
• 1:33:17
  ladder. Yeah, that was a really good match, And I think those
• 1:33:21
  three will be remembered. But yeah, I mean the rest is any any
• 1:33:27
  pay per view, you could probably make a part and say that right,
• 1:33:30
  and and and it's not so. I mean, I can't even remember any
• 1:33:34
  of the damn matches from the last paper. Yeah that was everyone loved that.
• 1:33:40
  It was revolution, But yeah, I remember is the one that it
• 1:33:45
  was the title changed when Copeland won the title. That's the only one I
• 1:33:48
  can remember. And I missed the final part of it because it wasn't even
• 1:33:55
  that was dynamite. Yeah, oh yeah, that was no mine. But
• 1:34:01
  you see, it comes down to for me, when it comes to a
• 1:34:06
  pay per view, if I get seven matches and four of them are be
• 1:34:13
  plus be or better, then it's a successful pay per view. And there
• 1:34:17
  were enough moments and good matches. You have at least three very good matches.
• 1:34:23
  To me, three very good matches, four good. I mean even
• 1:34:28
  like for me, the trios match at the main event of the of the
• 1:34:30
  Zero Hour was a good match. I enjoyed the match, and I will
• 1:34:35
  remember that one because I think that it's gonna end up being that's gonna end.
• 1:34:42
  I wanted that the ends so different, but we won't go there.
• 1:34:45
  I actually wanted to see Billy turn on the acclaim and join his sons that
• 1:34:50
  I thought that would have been an amazing part way to do that. But
• 1:34:54
  I digress. As Task likes to say, I think it'll be that.
• 1:34:58
  I think it's just that that some of the pay per views gets so hyped
• 1:35:05
  that your your people's build up to them sometimes don't exactly meet the expectation.
• 1:35:15
  I think the final with the with the the World Championship match and the women's
• 1:35:21
  match didn't meet the expectation they were built to and that made it look seem
• 1:35:28
  like it wasn't as good as it could have been. By anyway, go
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• 1:35:45
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