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Episode #137: DIY Personal Care Product Line by Dr. Sina · Beyond Labels Premium

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  SPEAKER_00: So if this is in my toothpaste, what's in the rest of the personal care products that I'm using?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I started to really research diligently every chemical and every single personal care product from lip balm, deodorant to eye cream, shampoo, you know, um body butters, uh bar soaps, you know, body soaps, all of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't like any of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I just started creating my own.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what's amazing about it is once you create one, you realize how easy it is and how much money you save.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to another podcast of Beyond Labels with yours truly, Joel Salatin, the farmer, and our favorite researcher, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cena McCullough.
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  SPEAKER_01: For those of you who subscribe to the Epoch Times alternative newspaper, uh I've subscribed to it for some time and just love the alternative news source.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um Cena has just finished a nine-part series uh detailing recipes and all the ins, outs, and wherefores of a personal care product, kind of a do-it-yourself recipes for personal care products.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, these your your your cosmetics from you know, lip balm and and different things, uh, these are are very I find them very intimidating for most people.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, okay, I can I can cook a I got a crock pot, I can cook a roast, you know, uh, but but you know, fabricating, you know, uh personal care products is uh is a little more daunting.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so um, you know, for those of you who want, so we're going to dig into this on this podcast, but if you want the true skinny on it, um, you know, you can you can um grab the epoch times or subscribe to it and you can get the entire nine-part series.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: Cena, I mean, this thing was if you add all nine of them up, it was like half a book, wasn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was pretty extensive.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It took quite some time to write them because I I walk you through, so it's nine different products, and I walk you through uh potential hazardous ingredients in the mainstream products, and then I walk you through the alternative ingredients that I have chosen, including scientific studies to back up why I chose those.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: And then I include recipes of how to actually make them in your own kitchen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and I formulated each of the recipes so they're unique.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so the idea is um here's what's bad about here's what's bad about these brands.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you want better brands, you can buy these, these are better.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you want to make them yourself, here are the recipes you can do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you kind of have, you know, you kind of have three uh three basic, you know, ideas here uh to present.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: So uh you wanna you want to dig into this a little bit?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so um let me start out by saying explaining why I started creating personal care products for my family, because you know, it's not convenient, right?
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, in all the things that we're trying to juggle in our daily lives, and some of us are, you know, we're trying to cook all our foods even.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's already this long laundry list.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, why would you add one more thing to your list?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I I completely agree.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the reason why I started was because of my toothpaste.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I was buying a brand of toothpaste, it was um an organic brand, it was listed as all natural.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: But what I realized, and this was during my healing journey, that every time after I brushed my teeth, I started to feel kind of sick to my stomach, like a little notches and queasy.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it took a little bit of time to figure that out, the connection between that and the toothpaste.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: But when I did, I started to look at the ingredient list on the toothpaste uh label, and I realized that it contained um grain derivatives.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I was like, oh, well, I'm not supposed to be eating grains right now, you know, I'm trying to reverse this condition.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got to get a different toothpaste.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I went out searching online and like at some natural food stores, looking for a toothpaste that didn't have grain derivatives in it, and I couldn't find a good one.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: So um I started to make my own toothpaste, and it was like night and day, Joel.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, so obviously I didn't, I wasn't getting sick from using my own toothpaste, you know, it didn't have any grains in it.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it was amazing because my teeth got whiter from just using a homemade toothpaste, right?
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Teeth got whiter.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I would go to the dentist and she was like, What are you doing to your teeth?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, they look great.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: And like, are you using whitening strips here?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I wasn't having like the the of the tartar buildup, you know, the plaque or anything like that, and nothing.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, is you know, my husband had gum disease.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: I put him on my toothpaste.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was part of his protocol to reverse the gum disease.
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  SPEAKER_00: It worked.
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  SPEAKER_00: It got to the point where my dentist was like, give me your recipe for your for your toothpaste that you created, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm telling you, um, all it is, so I had two different recipes that I use.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: This is in the article.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, the one I use on a daily basis is bentonite clay, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that comes from the earth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's coconut oil.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you want, you can put a probiotic in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I put essential oils in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I like cinnamon, for instance, and clove essential oil.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, cinnamon has actually been shown by the Journal of Clinical and Diagnostic Research to decrease your risk of getting uh cavities and also decrease plaque formation, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Cinnamon.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh I mean bentonite clay, it's a natural tooth polisher.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's it contains antimicrobial properties, it can modulate the entire immune response of your body.
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  SPEAKER_00: And bentonite clay can actually inhibit growth of cancer cells, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: That was published in the um a journal of public health, like back in 2017.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, coconut oil is the same.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's anti-inflammatory, it's antimicrobial.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can actually help rebalance your oral microbiome.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the microbiome in your mouth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, it can reduce your risk of periodontal disease.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the list goes on and on, but these are natural and what we would call, you know, natural, minimally processed ingredients that you can find a lot like in your grocery store, for instance, or easily online.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mix it up in um in your kitchen.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, my my kids help me make my three-year-old helps me make my toothpaste, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: These are very easy.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're not cooking it, you're just mixing it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a recipe for whitening toothpaste in here.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's coconut oil, baking soda, and some essential oils, you know, based on your individual needs.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's another great thing about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can tailor each one of these based on your individual needs by changing the essential oil or changing the other ingredients that you're adding to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for me, that was the starting point.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was this realization that, oh, I've been reading all these food labels for so long, and now I grabbed this toothpaste that said organic and natural, and it made me sick.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, if this is in my toothpaste, what's in the rest of the personal care products that I'm using?
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I started to really research diligently every chemical and every single personal care product from lip balm, deodorant to eye cream, shampoo, you know, um body butters, uh bar soaps, you know, body soaps, all of this.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't like any of them.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I just started creating my own.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: And what's amazing about it is once you create one, you realize how easy it is and how much money you save.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: So, Joel, I save on average 50% by making my own.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm using high quality ingredients like organic ingredients, you know, like the best essential oils I can find.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I save 50%.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: And part of the way I do that is I buy in bulk, right?
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of these ingredients um tend to have long shelf lives.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I will buy in bulk, and that way, as an you know, inflation's running rampant, so I'm locked into today's prices, you know, even over time.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I buy in bulk and then um I make it as needed, and I save 50%, and I have this the feeling of uh I can trust the product that I'm giving to my to my family, you know, there's more transparency behind it.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: So um one thing I wanted to share is one of the big compelling reasons for me to start making my own pro personal care products was um as I was looking into the different ingredients that are commonly in these products, what I realized is that just like in the food, lots of these chemicals are man-made and they're not being adequately tested for long-term safety.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: And we're we're definitely not testing for cumulative effects, just like we talked about in the food supply, right?
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: So we don't actually know, for instance, what happens if you combine parabens that are in your body lotion with the formaldehyde releasing preservatives in your shampoo and the phthalates in your lip balm, right?
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: We don't actually know what happens long term when you combine all those because no one's actually looking at them.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we do know that the skin is the largest organ of the body.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's common for chemicals like phthalates and parabens to actually be absorbed through the skin, including your scalp.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: So Yeah, this is uh Zena, hold that, hold that thought because I know we have dealt with this before, but I'll tell you, this is this is probably one of the single uh biggest whatever uh um unknowns in the average person's life in America that when we expect the whatever, Food and Drug Administration, the FDA to test to test things, um they never test them as as as you mentioned, accumulative.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like the word cocktail.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: So so they they they only and I we see this in farming all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: They test one item like an herbicide.
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  SPEAKER_01: So USDA, you know, they they test an herbicide, but farmers don't use just one herbicide, they use that herbicide, then they use an insecticide, they use something else with it, and and and and virtually all this stuff is actually used as a cocktail, um, as our as our vaccines and all sorts of things.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, they test one vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, what what happens when you put 50 of them together, you know?
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  SPEAKER_01: And and and so all this supposed testing that happens is never testing in real life field field usage, in real field usage, where you're actually using a combination of things, a cocktail, if you will.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're not just using one specific chemical that's been tested in isolation by itself.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's that's exactly what you're talking about here.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the same thing that happens in farming, it's the same thing that happens in in food testing with ingredients.
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  SPEAKER_01: They test one ingredient.
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  SPEAKER_01: They don't they don't test, well, what if you combine this ingredient with this ingredient, this ingredient?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, suddenly you've got a whole concoction here, and nobody tests that because each one was tested individually.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is, I think, one of the one of the most the biggest missing understandings in our culture today.
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  SPEAKER_01: I run into it all the time, all the time, and people aren't aware that no testing is done in practical combined usage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm glad you brought up the term cocktail, because this will give you some concept of the cocktail that we put on our bodies every day through personal care products.
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  SPEAKER_00: The environmental working group conducted um a study, and what they concluded was women on average use 12 personal care products a day, which exposes them to an average of 168 chemical ingredients.
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  SPEAKER_00: They concluded men use six personal care products on average a day, exposing them to 85 different unique chemicals a day.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's the cocktail.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for women, an average 168 different chemical cocktails that we have that we're we're putting on our bodies every day.
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  SPEAKER_00: And these chemicals, they're largely man-made, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: In most part, they're man-made.
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  SPEAKER_00: They can include foaming agents, uh, like I said, formaldehyde releasing preservatives, the phthalates, artificial fragrances, that some of those have been linked to endocrine disruption.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, these ingredients, if you look in the scientific literature like I have, you'll see that they can lead to health issues and systemic imbalances.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, just one example, okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: You probably heard that word before.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are synthetic preservatives and they're used to enhance the shelf life of different personal care products.
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  SPEAKER_00: But studies have actually connected parabens with hormone disruption because they can emulate estrogen within the body.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: So this has set off an alarm with some people that uh wait, maybe we should be a little apprehensive when adding parabens to all these different products because what about the development of breast cancer, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So in 2004, the Journal of Applied Toxicology actually revealed the presence of parabens in 90% of breast tumors that were examined.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, a study in, I think it was uh pharmacological reports, they showed that these parabens can change the expression of the estrogen responsive genes that were inside the breast cancer cell.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: So they can actually modulate the gene expression inside the cancer cell.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, the list goes on and on.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: So where do you see parabens?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, body lotions, shampoos, face cream, eye cream, body soap, deodorant, lip balm, right?
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: So if you think, oh, it's like I I'm not, you know me, Joel, I'm not an alarmist by any means.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think the body's so resilient, it can handle so much.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: But my point is, if we have 168 of these chemicals that we're putting on our body a day, and you're getting, for instance, parabens in your shampoo and then the and your soap, and then you put it, you have thin your deodorant, you're putting on your lips, you're putting on your face and your body for your body lotion.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's a large exposure to parabens, and we don't test for long-term safely for this type of exposure.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it it brings to mind, I just read a uh quote lately, uh said that in 1940, America, Americans and uh the entire country consumed one million pounds of monosodium glutamate.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: I know this has nothing to do with skincare products, okay?
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: But but but you know, so this is food, but but it it's germane to the point.
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  SPEAKER_01: In 1940, the total American consumption of MSG was 1 million pounds.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: Today, it's 300 million pounds.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: Which means, which means that the average, so there's only what, there's only like 340 million Americans in the whole country.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: So if there's 300 million pounds of MSG being consumed, that means the average American is consuming almost, almost, let's say 0.9 pounds, almost a pound of MSG per year, every year, one pound of it.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: So when you add all this up, that cumulative effect, you know, what what seems tiny portions uh can actually build up over time, especially over a lifetime.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I mean you're exactly right.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: And if you think about, for instance, a child, right?
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: A child tends to be more sensitive to the different chemicals.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: And think about them using toothpaste, for instance.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: Children don't necessarily spit all the toothpaste out, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Especially when they're first learning how to brush their teeth.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: They have those toothpaste, the toothpaste where it's like, oh yeah, the child can swallow it, and even though it's got like fluoride in it and stuff.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: So um there's there's ingredients in toothpaste, even that I was surprised to see.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: So, for instance, some toothpaste can contain contain um titanium dioxide, right?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: This is a mineral that's used in whitening toothpaste, toothpaste.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was actually classified by the Internal Agency for Research on Cancer as a possible carcinogen to human.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, studies have shown it produces tumors in rats, you know, and that's just after them breathing in some of the titanium dioxide, right?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like here we're potentially swallowing it, and we know that it can be absorbed by the human gastrointestinal tract, right?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: So that's just I mean, would you ever think titanium dioxide would be in a toothpaste?
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on, like, do we need that?
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: Why can't we just use the baking soda?
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like Right, right, yeah, yeah.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but but bak baking soda, baking soda actually uh makes a pretty good toothpaste.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: It just basically, that's in my whitening toothpaste recipe.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yay, good job, Joel.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, you know, they even have artificial coloring in it, like a blue one.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: They said it's used to increase the appeal of the toothpaste.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, then we have these studies saying that it's a possible neurotoxin with cytotoxic and genotoxic effects, right?
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Attention deficit disorder has been linked in children with a blue one, but it's used in some of the toothpaste that that they're probably swallowing.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm just like, why?
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: We don't need to be doing this.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: The toothpaste is so easy to make.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like I said, my three-year-old can make this with me, you know, and and that's just one of the examples.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like the the um deodorant that I that I make, also super easy to create.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like all my kids can make these.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and you're not gonna have any of the aluminum.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, can you believe they still put aluminum in some deodorants?
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like mainstream deodorants.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I I don't get it, right?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, so my my suggestion here is don't be overwhelmed.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, once you start looking at what's in all these ingredients, um, take it one step at a time.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Just like we tell you with the food supply, do not be overwhelmed.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're not gonna die tomorrow, right?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're already using the products now if you're using them.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: So just do if you want to replace one at a time, right?
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can actually make uh my shampoo or my body wash, and you can use it for your hair and your body, right?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: So you can make the shampoo and then also use it for your body.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like you could interchange some of these products, okay?
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: So don't get overwhelmed.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Pick one product that you want to start with, maybe read through the ingredient labels on your personal care products and figure out which one you think is the worst, like you want to replace first, and start with that recipe and then wait until you've got it down, right?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to replace them all at one time, or you're just gonna get stressed and overwhelmed.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Sina, have you created a uh, you know, the environmental working group has their, they're very famous for their um their dirty dozen.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: They call it their dirty dozen.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's um it's produce, it's produce that is the most um where the most chemicals are used, the most chemical residue and produce.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think I think the number one at the top for many years has been uh strawberries.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: But uh anyway, they they've got the what we call their dirty dozen.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: Have you created a list of like the worst brands?
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I mean, so there's you know, there's there's like red light, yellow light, green light, you know.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh never use this, you know, use this with caution, you know.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: This is okay.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh or obviously best is you know uh uh make your own.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: But have you created like a a dirty, a dirty dozen or a dirty uh a dirty 50 of the uh of dirty all in totality?
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: They're all bad?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, just kidding.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: No, so I have not created it because I don't have to, it already exists.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: The environmental working group does have a list of personal care products and they have ranked them, and they do have red, orange, and green, like like the red, yellow, and green.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: So you're brilliant, Joel.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it has been manifested.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: So uh you can go to their site and and they have tons of products, not every product, but a vast array of personal care products, and you can look your product up, see where it ranks.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, of course, you're they're ranking it based on what they think is a priority and how important they think certain um studies are for certain different potential chemical toxins, you know?
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: So it's their guidelines, but it gives you a great starting point uh of to figure out where your current products are on this scale of acceptable to throw it out immediately, you know.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: So, how often, how often are you actually making your concoctions?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is something you do once a week, once a month.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I actually um, you know, I'm a big proponent of not only saving time but and save but saving money.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: So, like I said, I buy it in bulk, so it's there when I need it, locked in at today's prices.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: I save time by making like I'll I'll double or triple the recipe when I'm making it.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and part of that is also because my whole family uses it.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, there's five of us using these products.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I will batch the recipe.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so I probably only make so like my lotion, for instance, I'll make that once every three months.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the lip balm lasts me at least six months.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: The things that I go through the most are the shampoo and the body wash, you know, because we got five people in there shampooing and washing their bodies.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I make that uh about once a month.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not something I'm doing on a continual basis.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: I had to create a system that was sustainable for me.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: And for me, that's I need to batch it.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: And just like I do in the kitchen, batch cooking and freezing the food, I batch these products.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm not doing it any more than once a month at the most, you know.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: And like I said, they have a long shelf life.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: And if you want the shelf life to extend, you can put it in the refrigerator, like until you're ready to use it, you know.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like I made the deodorant that I make, um, I made enough deodorant to last for the entire year.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: So that one I'm only having to make one time.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, and then I make them for like little gifts for people.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like for Christmas, I like to give people um, you know, the song, a few of my favorite things.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I piggyback on that song.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: I like to give them like little my favorite things in a little bag.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I give them deodorant that I've made, you know.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but to give you an let me give you another example of one of the recipes so you can see how how common these ingredients are and how easy it is.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: So the the deodorant recipe contains shea butter, which have you ever tried shea butter, Joel?
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh no, I'm not sure that I have.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: I just I just used uh regular butter.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: Get a stick of butter and just put that.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, my grandma used to do that when she was cooking, she would just put the butter right, she'd rub it in her skin, you know, like it was lotion.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I I do that too, like with coconut oil when I'm cooking with that.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: I just rub that right into my skin.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: So that's an easy lotion to start with.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't want to start making a body lotion, you just run, you can rub coconut oil on your skin, you know.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, okay, deodorant is what we're on.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I love shea butter.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's a natural moisturizer, it contains high levels of lots of great fatty acids, like linoleic and oleic, palmitic.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it has anti-tumor properties, anti-inflammatory properties.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, shea butter is fantastic.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then I also use um coconut oil, um, baking soda, air root powder, uh, right, because mine are all grain-free.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: So all my products I formulate are grain-free.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then I use beeswax, and uh, you know, or these are all organic as well.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then I add my favorite essential oils.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: So um I might use tea tree oil, right?
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's the antimicrobial.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's actually been shown in studies to inhibit the specific type of bacteria that's that's contributed to malodor.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I, you know, I like lavender because it it uh it reduces anxiety, but it also has a great antimicrobial ability and a great aroma.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: So that's it.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's all that's in my deodorant.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I make it once for the whole entire year, you know?
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so what I do is I have a plan of what I'm gonna do.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like I don't just go out, oh, I'm gonna make everything all at one time and see how long it lasts me.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, this month I'm gonna make the deodorant and then I'm good for the year.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, next month, why don't I make my shampoo?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, that's that's one of that would be on the the top list of my dirty 50, right?
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: For the personal care products would be the shampoo and the body lotion.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'm gonna make that and then like I'm I'm gonna triple or quadruple the batch and see how long that lasts me.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'll just put it on my calendar when I have to do it the next time, you know.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that so I I break it up like that so it's not a burden.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: I get my kids in the kitchen doing it with me so that eventually they can just do it on their own, right?
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: And divide up the work.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: No, that that's great.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: And and you know, that this is this is uh basic, this is basic home economics, you know, uh just you where where you where you clump like things together.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, uh there was a there was a lady that uh wrote a book, um the the once a month cooking manual or something like that, uh years ago.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: She so so she cooked she she cooked everything for the month in two days.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: She spent two days fixing all the meals.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: And uh it was uh um this has been several years ago, and it was quite it was quite a big deal actually in the kind of you know the lifestyle uh home home movement community, homeschool community and all that of how to how to free up your time so you weren't you weren't fixing every day.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: Now, she she didn't she didn't fix all the salads for the month, but you know, it was the main things and she would then freeze them in baggies and then and then uh defrost as the month went on.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: And um it was it was a whole, you know, it was a whole a whole system, you know, a whole deal.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, but yeah, this this batching like this um completely changes it because when you hear per people think, well, personal care products, well, I use that every day.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: You mean I gotta, you know, I gotta make it, you know, it it's this, it's this kind of mentality.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: But if you batch it and it's once and it's quarterly or or uh you know biannually, then you know you just you just um take that take that little bit of time and um and and you know carve out some time, put it on your calendar and get it done.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can even try to make it more joyful of an experience by like doing it with a friend.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I do with my kids, you can do it with a friend or relative.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: I have a girlfriend who wants to learn how to do herbal remedies.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so now we do play dates.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: So the kids play, and you know, we're playing in the kitchen, making these herbal remedies together, and we're laughing, we're playing the music, we're having a good time with it.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: So it doesn't really seem like you're putting forth any effort, it just seems like you're hanging out with your girlfriend, you know, doing something fun, right?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: So so it doesn't have to be laborous or you know, daunting.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I can do it with my girlfriend, Teresa.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: So so um, so uh are these recipes where we're we're about out of time here.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Where where are they available?
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: How's the easiest way to get a hold of all these recipes?
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'm gonna they're posted on my website, and so in the show description, we'll include links where you can just click on the link and it will take you right to the article on my website.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it will have the recipes right there.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: You can access all of them.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and even you know what I suggest, um, because you never know when things get taken off the internet, you know, when they when they get censored.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um and and you never know when you might want it.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: So even if you don't start it, just print them out and then you'll have it if you need it.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you can even buy the ingredients.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, they have a long shelf life.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: You can start with one.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: And if there's another shortage or something, um, then you can just start creating them, um, you know, whenever you're ready to do it, but just have it on hand just in case.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, were were they were they pretty much all in the epoch times series as well?
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: So every single article of this nine nine part series uh has been in the epoch times.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then yeah, so you could, if you were a subscriber, you could go into the archives of the epoch times and and print off the print off the whole articles.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly right.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: Super, lot lots of opportunities there.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: Have we um we're about out of time?
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: Have we missed anything?
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: Is there any last word you want to, last parting shot you want to uh do on this?
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, no, I think you know, my the last thing I'd want to say is um, you know, aside from just take it slow, right?
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Do one step at a time.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: For me, like the most the most empowering thing for me was being able to figure out how to cook my own food, you know, how to read the labels, what foods fit well for our family.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: But I tell you, this was remarkably empowering and liberating for me, this experience of crafting these personal care products.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: It makes me feel so good when I see my, I'm like, like I'm getting emotional, like tears are coming up because it makes me feel so good to see my kids using a toothpaste, you know, every day that I have faith in.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, when they wash their hands, when they shampoo their hair, right?
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: When we put that lip balm on, I know some's going in their mouth.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: I have such a sense of peace now.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: And like, um, and not in a bad way, but like uh like I'm proud that I did that.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was able to provide that for my kids.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: And with the growing number of toxins that we're exposed to, just in the environment itself, I like to be proactive and try to set my family up for long-term success in as in as many ways as I can without stressing myself out.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: And this has been surprisingly a huge return on my investment.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's one of the most rewarding things I've done.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's a great uh great testimony.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's not too um not too out of line to mention that the whole um uh detoxing uh thread or theme or element is the theme of our of our Beyond Label summit that will be coming up here this year.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: And we will be um doing a lot more um whatever explanation or you know teasers about that coming up.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: We have some wonderful uh announcements to make on that.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you'll just have to wait for the next uh uh podcast to get those those latest, greatest.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: But um hopefully by the time this airs, you know, tickets will be available and we'll be up and running.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you, Cena, for this uh uh dive into the personal care uh product theme and uh just another way to um to disentangle and reduce the toxicity in your body.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: And uh it's been very, very helpful.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you all for being with us on another Beyond Labels podcast, and we look forward to visiting with you again next week.