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Richmond Game Recap · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian C Club, buddy, Sunday
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night, we watched the Richmond game yesterday.
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We did it was a w but how we feeling how we feeling man 9:39
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when probably the second ugliest win to an FCS team?
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Since the twenties been here, Fuhrman was obviously the worst
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when literally, if not for a procedure penalty they could
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have recovered an onside kick. Not great, not great at all.
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Everyone will also see my head turn like this quite a few times
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tonight is the 49ers are playing and they're not doing great.
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Either throwing picks down only 10 somehow but you know, Braun.
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It's it seems like it's a similar thing when there is
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lower competition. Coaching staff can't get guys up
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to go for blood. And it's a good to continued.
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It's no longer it's a trend now it's no longer a well just this
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will know. It's a trend and you hate to see
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it because games like this You know man if it's crucial for
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getting younger players on field to see actual speed of games.
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Yeah, this is supposed to be one of those games where you get
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guys on the field that are going to be one of those guys that are
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going to Redshirt. But you want to get get their
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four games in there. But in their four games, you
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want to have one game like this where they see, you know, at
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least a solid 15 or 20 Right, exactly.
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That'd be ideal, get guys out there.
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You let them see, at least, you know, probably to live Series,
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right? And we didn't get to do that.
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It was. It wasn't like we had to run the
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clock out against Richmond against, right?
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That's where we are. At this point, we were out there
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with, with our starting offense, running the clock out against
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Richmond. So they didn't have a chance to
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get a last-minute score and then go for an onside kick, which one
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I put us. In infirm and territory, right?
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It would have been in Furman territory.
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They would have scored then get the kick, so not quite there but
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still an 11-point win is even over a good FCS team.
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Like Richmond is, it's not great.
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Now, what we're going to do guys before we jump into some
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observations from the game we're going to go back and we're going
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to talk about two quotes that was made last Monday that coach
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Fuente and then to postgame quotes.
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So and I'm just going to read them also a lot to unload and
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then we're going to get into it last Monday.
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We said this on Wednesdays podcast, concerning red zone
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offense and Kyle fence in general, we stunk, you don't go
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down there three times and Come Away with nothing.
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Not re-evaluate, talk about and look at all aspects of it.
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Top to bottom. We weren't very good then the
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next quote, but I would also say there's nobody better to iron
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out the minutiae. It takes to give our guys a
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chance to be successful. Then Brad.
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Kohn was a little bit different Saturday after the game and
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these were coach for Wednesday's quotes, not making these a thin
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air. They often struggle, we were
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pretty inconsistent to say the least.
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We haven't not been consistent enough to score like this and we
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need to score as the season goes along.
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Well, chunk agent demeanor Humber on.
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Yeah, it's one thing to struggle off fensively against.
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What is, as we saw this week against Oklahoma.
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A pretty solid West Virginia Defense overall.
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That's one thing. It was a road game.
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It was a big test. You know, whatever you're at
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home against Richmond. Yep.
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You can't put up 21 points. Points.
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No, and sorry 14. Offensive point 14 offensive
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points. It just can't I mean it's
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acceptable in the here the change in the tone of being
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inconsistent and you know we've got to kind of find something.
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It sounds like the stuff on Monday was lip service.
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To the Press lip service to the fans, the fans that are still
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completely on his side and it went to Saturday, just saying
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we're inconsistent essentially. He came out and just said it,
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we're not good on offense and you did.
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He said we cannot continue to be bad on offense because we're
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going to have to score in certain games.
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As we look ahead, especially starting Notre Dame, two weeks
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for 13 days from now. Yep.
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Low, the question is, will he follow through with anything?
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And again, if I take the stuff from Monday, And then the stuff
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from Saturday, there was a change in tone, at least yet.
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You see the change in tone. And some point we just gotta
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There's just got to be ownership because I know we talked about
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this. A lot.
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We talked about, you know, the difference between the play
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calling issues, the execution issues, it all goes back to
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coaching and if you're not getting it done on the field
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consistently, there's a coaching problem.
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Well what can we can? We just look real quick college
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football World. Auburn's first-year head coach.
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First year head coach hired his fired his wide.
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Coach today. We're four games in a season and
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he's already hired somebody. Yeah, I mean, if you're not
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cutting the mustard, you got to go.
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This is this is a division. One football isn't the the frat
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boy club? No, he's convinced you want
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football and you're getting paid a lot of money, and I'm going to
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say this because in terms of the play calling, this was not a
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awful game by Brad. But the problem that we have is
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that This is essentially the quarterback more or less
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handpicked by Brad cornelison. Yeah.
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Brad cornelison is the offensive coordinator for Justin Fuente.
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You think what we're now seeing is had a is also the
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quarterbacks coach the area where we are struggling the most
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right now is two areas, right? So we haven't been able to run
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the ball consistently but our offensive line has been a
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fucking Patchwork. In our hand-picked quarterback
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is struggling to find open receivers And you're saying open
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receivers not throwing into Tight Windows, not seeing the
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Reeds. We're talking guys who were open
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and he did a better job Saturday and we'll get into him but it's
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still going back to what the tone has been with us and what
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that tone was Monday compared to what that Tom was Saturday.
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He has to do something and he has to Justin Fuente needs to
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verbally, come out and say something is changing.
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Don't don't, don't try to hide it.
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Because the thing is we're smart enough fans and there's more
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smart fans there that are going to see.
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If you start calling plays, they're going to see you have
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the place Sheets if Notre Dame comes and we're tearing it up
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and they show you six times and you consistently have a place
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sheet there. We know that because if you're
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saying it, you're admitting there's a problem, right?
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Your yeah. That's been the big big thing is
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that, this this is kind of close to saying there's a problem.
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But, you know, the first, the first instance of trying to
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solve a problem is admitting that there is one.
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Yeah. And that's what we have not
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done. Consistently is that we have.
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Yeah, coach Fuente is not one up there and said there is a
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problem. We're going to try to Take care
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of it. Yeah, and you know the center
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part Braun. This is this is kind of what I
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want to make a point about he literally he is friends with
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this guy. There's no doubt about it.
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You don't keep someone in your life.
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Roughly what? 15, 16 years that and not have a
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friendship. He is doing his friend to
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disservice because the thing is, when this ends in that, you
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know, it's going to end one way or the other in a few short
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months when this ends. Him not getting on him earlier
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taken away. Responsibilities trying to
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highlight what he does. Good what he does.
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Bad. People are going to look like
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we're not hiring you like we looked at what you had offensive
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ly. You should have been scoring 35
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Plus a game and you have some great designs.
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The people never tell you you were wrong in your life.
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Yeah, and that's the issues that, you know, as you said,
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he's going to struggle to find work after this because you're
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putting a product on the field that consistently has played
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down to competition, especially on the offensive side of the
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ball. Well like how effective we are
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on offense is almost dictated by the strength of the opponent
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we're playing. And that that should never be
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the case. You know, you can we can talk
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about the situational play calling and we can talk about
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all that other stuff because that but that's individual
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focuses. The big problem in the big
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picture I have is that we don't seem to have a good grasp of
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What we want from the quarterback position and how to
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develop it and once we put the product on the field for
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whatever reason that unit almost like clockwork, playing to the
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strength of whatever the opponent is.
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We're not going out there and dictating terms to to folks that
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we have the strength of our roster is significantly higher
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than that of the opponent. Well, And that's on the
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individual who's doing that again.
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Like I've said now numerous times that I've got to make
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enough stand on it, it's Justin more than its Brad.
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I'm past Brad now and it's Justin you have to do something,
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you know, I mean there hasn't been a change and you know I
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will say it again. The thing that is for me and the
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reason why I say this is this is coaching not just play your
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execution players, not executing in a one-off scenario.
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So like one game Here. One game there.
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Yeah, that happens. Regardless of what the coaches
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are doing having consistently. This problem crop up multiple
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times a year every year that's in coaching thing.
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It's telling me your coat that methodology.
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This is sowing his coaching / teaching.
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Methodology is not a good is not good, you know, you hate to say
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it, Brian. But you know, You've seen some
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people who essentially go to school to become teachers,
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right? And they start getting to those
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teaching method classes and lesson planning and what you do
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in the classroom and they don't know what to do it, right.
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They don't like like I know the subject matter and it's like
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okay but you're teaching somewhere between a
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five-year-old or if you get into the Collegiate level people in
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their 20s and you know even grad school in their 30s you if you
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do not know how to teach them. Then it doesn't matter if you
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know how to do it all or you know, exactly what's going to
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happen and I'll always go back to my experiences.
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I mean I'll be straight up. I failed geometry Always felt
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the teacher, like my style didn't work.
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Next year, took it again. Got a 98 average.
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It was like, you teacher you how to present it better, light bulb
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moment, a light bulb moment and, and, and I think that's the what
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you're kind of saying here is. It's because we've seen it even
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when Gerard was here five years ago, there were some games where
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there are some things that were done that just didn't look right
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now. In after you take a dive his
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talent level out, you saw a little more, Josh Jackson.
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You saw it a hell of a lot more with Ryan Willis because of not
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having the mobility. Yep.
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And then it really showed displayed Willis in nineteen.
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You had hooker come in and believe it.
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Say, what you will, we go through 2019 and as we get near
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the end of the season, it shows its face right last year, we'll
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throw that out but still It was teaching we had games where we
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were doing some just in things that baggage and you're just
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like, why? Teaching.
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So now He might be a guy that understands offensive design.
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How to get players open. He doesn't understand situation
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situation of Lake calling in the way.
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It's looking for evidence is mounting more right Ron.
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Yeah, he can't teach and coach the position.
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Yeah, I mean it's getting to a point.
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Now when we look at the entire big picture of the quarterback
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situation since Justin Fuente and Brad cornelison have been in
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Blacksburg, it's been a complete cluster and and I'm not just
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saying the play, the play has at times been good but the whole
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situation around how we get, there has been a cluster you
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have You bring in Jerrod and that worked out great for a
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season. But there were still some, some,
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some things that you were looking at it was like, okay but
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he played well, he played his ass off, then you had JJ and
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then you have him coming back, getting injured.
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And then just there's been so much dysfunction of Of the
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quarterback position. It makes you wonder, like, at
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some point where there's smoke. There's fire, right?
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I mean, you've had Jerrod leave early.
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Yeah, I've had JJ transfer out, you've had two other
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quarterbacks transfer owl. Like at some point, whether
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smoke? There's fire.
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There's a reason, these things are happening.
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You know, you had Jerrod best Juco quarterback in the country.
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Yeah. Other four stars and they're
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gone. And then JJ, who was a, at least
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as very that the very least, a solid starter Jenna, let's start
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the whole piece that goes is Brian.
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We can sit here and you know, talk about that room but we just
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kind of look And let's just start blowing through running
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back position. Yep, we had changed when there
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were issues. Yeah, yeah, wide receiver
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position, unfortunately. The best coach in the room.
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We have turn over there. This is essential to making
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break here for that guy, and it's looking more break than
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make the offensive line and tight end.
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Say what you will, they have their moments.
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But overall, good, right, good. I'd say in this in the scheme of
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the of the five to six years. Now, you know, you give them at
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least a passing grade, right? You give them probably somewhere
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between a b - probably be - be not terrible, because you're,
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they put some guys in the leave you Two.
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Good years. You've had one great year a good
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year to average years and then two years that you like B&B -
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and then you look on the other side of the bowl.
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And obviously there's been a complete turn over there.
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A complete turn over in a what are we seeing we're seeing eye
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defensive backs. Guys, get freshman all Americans
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Jermaine wohlers working his way towards being a high around
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graphic and Green Bay scored. We need to put Tre Lansing
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Sidebar. No, just do it, just do it 80s.
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You know, we we've seen the safety plan or some people were
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not impressed with Jam last year, safety plays look better.
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This year, it's not where I want it.
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And obviously, Jack Tyler coming building.
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JC Billington built. We've seen turnover at all those
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positions. Yeah, he's one position.
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There's one J&J. See, wasn't even on the field
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for this game because that wasn't the covid pole.
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So, there's one position there has been zero.
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No, turn over it. And super not, not average play,
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not average play at times failure.
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Play Because I would give that room ad a solid D.
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Right, I mean right now. Absolutely, yeah, yeah.
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It's borderline F. It's D - right now in my eyes,
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it's tough, it's tough. All right, Ron.
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Before we get on to looking at some highlights of the game,
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some things we noticed. There we are going to take a
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quick balls, pause for a message from our digital Partners.
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All right, Brian. Let's start with this.
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Can we just say this? And we can argue who creates it.
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Our opening game Drive scripts, 90% of the time, or money.
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I'm getting money. We script a hell of a hell of a
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drive. And then after that, we don't
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know what to do. And if the script doesn't work,
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we really don't know what to do. So, for example, of the script
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not working, see, Middle Tennessee State.
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Yeah. Which look what?
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When we see the skirt, not working.
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We also see very plain vanilla, But in this case Brian I mean
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some just a good mix of pass and runs what did you see on that
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opening drive that really caught your eye?
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What plays? So the big plate of tree out the
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gate, the little cross country, Sprint out, good play at the
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gate to get some big yards, get us on the Move.
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We had outside Zone to Holston 19 yards.
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Got us into the Red Zone and then we had play action pose to
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Trey Turner gets the Toe tap there in the back of the end
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zone. Good guys, up 7.
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Nothing really good drive out. The gate and everyone in Hokie
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nation is thinking all right. This is what we like to see.
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This is you know at that point the expectations went.
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Okay this is this is going to be a traditional FCS type game.
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We're going to go out there and make some noise and then the
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rest of the game happen Exactly. So we're not going to focus on
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game by game. We're going to start out here
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after that. Let's talk about Bryce and we've
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already mentioned you know sort of criticizing the room hold on
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a second. All you have to do at the
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kicker, get you Shannon huge run back on the board.
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Let's talk about BB and we've already mentioned it coaching is
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not all play calling. We've already covered that
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point. So, but, you know, we've been
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questioning for weeks for on, you know, is he injured as you
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entered? We're not seeing the read
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option. We're not seeing the read
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option. I think that's off the table
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now. It seems so even though we put
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some design runs back into the offense this week, the read
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option is still a non-existent factor, you know, all those
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handoffs to Holston and Blackshear, I mean BB's pretty
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much just carrying out a fake. That's not, that's not him,
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making decision to keep their. I'm thinking.
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I don't know if they're taking it out to keep him healthy, or
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just play it safe or what but not having that.
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Element in our offense is a detriment to the offense.
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Well, hold on. If you're, if you're going to
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say that run then why are you designing sweeps and having him
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run a power? If he's to like hurt or you're
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trying to protect him, you wouldn't even put those in the
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Playbook. You would just say scramble and
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you can, you would think so. And I think another problem is
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that, you know, sometimes he's scrambling when he shouldn't.
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So I'll give you an example here.
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Okay, I'll give an example here. Second drive we could have been
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up. Nothing.
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Because at our 32-yard line it was about think like eight
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minutes left in the first quarter.
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Okay, play to ended up Braxton kept it ran outside.
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Got a first down. I mean look like a good run on
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but looking at looking back at it.
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Caleb ran wide wide fucking wide open, the quarterback came on a
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blitz, the safety jumped in the box, and Caleb Smith is running
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wide. Open down the left sideline and
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Braxton did not even look his way.
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And it was open at the snap. It wasn't like it came open.
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It was open. All the way.
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So even if he doesn't do the launch downfield, he could hit
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him like 15 yards in stride and just kept running.
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If he looked his way any point of his drop back, he would have
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been able to throw the ball to him.
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He wears his first read. Where did look like his first
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read was because well it looked like his first read was in the
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middle of the field. Was it raised his eyes weren't
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turned this way. Was it to his blind side or was
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it to his face side? So it looked like, it'd be like
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I said, looked like he was right down the middle.
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Like looking down the middle, I don't know, I'm asking.
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Where is it a blitz come from? I'm you got to remember.
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I'm the blitz come from Blindside.
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Okay, so it will still if he's looking in the middle and if
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it's that safety coming down into the box that he should have
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immediately recognized to go here.
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Why is the safety here? Look left.
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And seeing okay, let's digress on that he's missed.
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I'll give this to him. He's making some, he's making
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some boneheaded reads. So again, we've already hit on
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it. What's being discussed behind
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closed doors but I'll say this, he gives his Guys, an
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opportunity, he gets the pass his right.
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He gives the guys an opportunity to catch the ball.
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That tray that deep last a trade in the second half, right?
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And then, like the crossing pattern, some of the plays to
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Tavian think about it. He called those guys in stride.
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So when he gets his read and throws on time, it looks good.
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The problem is that, it's so inconsistent with both of those
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things, and, again, at this point, I'm not, I'm not even mad
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at Braxton, because Either, this should have been recognized way
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before. Now we shouldn't, we shouldn't
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be in week 4 and we're still At this point, he hasn't been
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coached enough to say, hey Braxton, you need to keep, you
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know, be a little more cognizant of the pocket.
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Not try to look to run out of the pocket as fast.
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Hey make sure you're getting these reads.
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We saw that you missed a couple here.
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You got to make sure you going through your progressions before
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you make a decision to tuck and run or do something different.
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Yeah, unless his we mean, unless you just the pressures there and
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you can't yeah, your s and Sometimes it's just you know,
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antsy feet in the in the pocket like it and that's it.
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These are coachable things, but it hasn't been coached, it seems
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like keep right now and I think that's where my frustration is.
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And like I said, if it was a one-off game where we saw some
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of these things it is it's not, it's not that it's not one off
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and we see him the Carolina game with the play with Trey.
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That the coverage was blown. He throws it.
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Yeah, down back game is a lot is a lot easier.
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Thank you for throwing that. Sorry, it's a new In The End
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Zone. 19 seconds left. We have no time outs but I'm
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cool with. There we go.
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People are gonna be like San Francisco fan.
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Yeah, if the Colts are playing I'll trust me.
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When we do this in a few weeks, Brian with the Colts and Niners
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playing. That's going to be a fun one for
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us. Three hours later.
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Yeah. Y'all are going to enjoy that
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one. All right, so Brian's already
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mentioned it. But where the f is the read
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option play. It's freaking absolutely killing
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killing. I run game because there's no
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threat of it. They're keying in on wherever
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they're running, back is going and they are attacking it, the
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defensive ends are crashing and you feel Ron if nothing else.
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If? If we just did it one time Lanes
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would start reopening. And I know this isn't Khalil
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Herbert. We we have some vision problems
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you know, somebody quit one out there today about King missing a
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wide open hole, but that's again that's a teachable thing but
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we're thinking our Playbook one of the ways we can significantly
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help this offense in this corner back.
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You're putting more pressure on the running backs than you need
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to Yes, you're putting more pressure on the offensive line
27:35
than you need to. And I'm not sure what the
27:37
endgame benefit is for Braxton because he still running the
27:42
football in design runs and scrambling like unless you're
27:47
treating the entire situation with kid gloves, take the
27:50
training wheels off. And let's run this mother for
27:54
like at some point. At some point, we just we have
28:01
to take the training wheels off of Offense because we've seen
28:05
that he's been struggling, picking up some of the reeds in
28:09
the passing game, but we're also, we're not fully
28:13
unleashing, his potential in the running game, we're not and I'd
28:17
and we said preseason, we don't want to run him to the point
28:20
where we're we're getting him hurt because we need, you know,
28:24
and I said it last week. The problem is that this offense
28:29
is held back by Braxton's play. This offense is also buoyed by
28:32
By Braxton's play because of his ability to run the ball and the
28:37
classic is a classic Catch-22. And, but we're still, we're
28:44
training wheels. The, the running game because
28:46
we're not using the read option, and it makes no sense, it
28:52
doesn't no sense because if that was starting, this is me being
28:57
again, the novice and I say that a lot, but folks, but if that
29:01
read option element, Was there easier runs easier play fakes
29:07
easier for for that first reader that second read because you're
29:12
running something guys aren't going to be right in their spot.
29:16
So instead of having to throw a perfect ball Can we just catch a
29:21
freaking ball in the end zone instead of having to catch a
29:23
perfect, throw a perfect ball? You don't dip and it makes no
29:28
sense in embalming. If we come out in two weeks and
29:32
we are were doing it and it's in it's just confusing Notre Dame
29:35
to know, ends, great, you held it out a month.
29:38
You also lost a game in that month where we know for a fact
29:43
that there were somewhere between at least one touchdown
29:45
and probably 40 to 50 more yards. if we had held at all
29:50
times, all right, yeah, that that's a big problem, you know,
29:56
when we talk about The read option.
29:59
The big thing that we need to look at is that you know who's
30:03
paying attention to the read option, right?
30:05
So we know what, we know that there's the option guy that and
30:09
that Defenders always going to have to honor it to a degree
30:13
you're probably going to. You usually see that kind of
30:16
squeeze and pop technique that Oregon made famous and and
30:20
pretty much any four-man front defense.
30:24
That that that's the type of technique they employ 22.
30:28
Stop the read option. But usually also the linebackers
30:35
have to have some sort of play on that as well.
30:38
You don't want to get over influenced in the, in the, in
30:44
the Run game. But right now they're paying
30:46
their giving absolutely no. No respect to Braxton keeping it
30:51
in the read option. None.
30:53
Well, we just saw, there was a little jet motion.
30:57
Little option, play trailer, Lance runs it.
31:00
Watch What Happens right here. Just that's beautiful.
31:08
All right, Ron, that was a great play.
31:10
By the offensive line by the Silverback himself just killing
31:15
somebody. Let's talk about our offensive
31:17
line. It's a patchwork right now,
31:20
buddy. We had we had Lucy this Smith
31:24
slide over to the left. Tackle this week, we had Brock
31:28
slide over to left guard. Then we had Johnny Jordan at
31:32
Center. We had Caden more at Right Guard
31:37
and then we had Luke 2, Nu du out there, right?
31:40
Tackle back to his old stomping grounds.
31:42
So it was, it was definitely a switch up there and There were
31:50
some good things. I saw with this new lineup,
31:52
there was some bad. I mean, the good.
31:56
I think, let's see this Smith held up as good as any tackle
32:00
that we've played this whole season.
32:02
So okay, good job there. I didn't see any major problems
32:07
with and past Pro for him. There was a couple I think
32:12
Braxton took, maybe one or two hits because because everybody I
32:15
don't think he gave up a sack. Did a pretty good job holding it
32:18
down. Brock had a better game, not
32:23
having to play tackle so good for him.
32:29
We still had a little bit more penetration than I'd like to on
32:33
on the runs and that kind of stopped some of what we were
32:36
trying to do on the interior there.
32:37
So I think some of that is a work in progress.
32:41
You're probably not getting quite as as good of a Interior
32:47
combo with moving. Lizzie this out there to tackle.
32:52
The Interiors, probably taking a little step back here.
32:55
Okay, can I ask this question? Yep.
33:00
Do you see a better combo being when Silas comes back because it
33:04
was mentioned that they don't think his foot is a long-term
33:07
deal. I hear that.
33:08
I think he's probably back by Notre Dame because that would be
33:11
essentially, three weeks, help out.
33:14
Yep. Do you see us?
33:15
Back and going to new to see this Johnny Brock Silas.
33:23
That's the big question, man. I think tenuta is the better of
33:32
the two between Silas and and, and loot.
33:42
It's going it's going to be tough, man, because we said at
33:45
the beginning of the year that depth especially tackled depth,
33:48
is the problem and we're already seeing it in four games in.
33:53
It didn't take very long and we knew that they would have some
33:57
ability to swap guys around. So I feel like we're still,
34:02
we're not underwater yet but we're officially in Treading
34:06
Water mode. Until Silas is good to go again
34:09
and even then I think there's still some question marks about
34:12
what that that that line that's going to look like is too new to
34:15
moving back over like What are we going to see there?
34:20
Yeah, I mean because 22 new to has had ups and downs at left
34:25
tackle. He hasn't looked great.
34:27
He hasn't looked awful, he's just looked mid and that's kind
34:31
of what we thought he was going to be at left.
34:33
Tackle is Because, unless we saw him take a big step, you know,
34:37
past Pro was still a problem for him last year and it's been a
34:40
little bit of a problem this year.
34:41
He hasn't taken a big step. It's been a baby step and
34:46
unfortunately that's When you lose a Christian Daris, all who
34:50
was in past Pro, as good as they get, probably, the best left
34:57
tackle last year in college football, because you can give
34:59
us some credit. I mean, that's that's a big drop
35:03
off and, you know, some of that is hurt.
35:06
Braxton's play. I think, you know, when we saw
35:10
Braxton play last year, the end of last year he was playing
35:14
behind at that point. We had gotten as healthy as we
35:18
had been all year on the offensive line and the offensive
35:21
line was a strength of ours throughout the year was.
35:25
But at that point and usually don't see it that late.
35:28
But the offensive line had actually gotten back into
35:31
healthy because Had missed two new to for several games during
35:34
the year because a 1 because the covid he had a Nick.
35:37
At one point we had other guys that were kind of in and out
35:41
because the covid in and out for other reasons.
35:43
Yeah. And we had finally gotten what
35:46
it seemed like you know as healthy and we saw behind that
35:50
Braixen having some success. And so I don't know if the not
35:56
being comfortable in the pocket is an extension of this line.
35:59
Just not being what would last year's was Or what?
36:02
But he really interesting to see what what it looks like once.
36:06
Al's is healthy. Again, whether we stick with Le
36:08
cetus at one of the tackle positions or whether something
36:12
else happens, all right. It's going to be really
36:15
interesting to see what line rolls out from Notre, Dame,
36:20
what? Yeah, I'm Nation you go with
36:23
again, I think Katie Maurice plate.
36:25
Followed for a redshirt freshman, or is it again, do
36:29
they make that sort of change to wear like, And we need to get
36:33
our A's in gear. And you know what, the seat us
36:37
is our better combos going to see this left to neuter, right?
36:42
We'll put Silas down at Right Guard.
36:45
Will keep Johnny at Center and we'll let brought play left
36:48
guard. Or something in that combination
36:53
because I don't think the offensive line has been terrible
36:55
this year. No, no, it's been, it's been a
37:00
roller coaster. It's been a roller coaster and I
37:02
think that's, that's the big issue is that you don't know
37:06
what to expect from it snap by snap because they'll have a have
37:11
one Snapper, they're doing everything, right?
37:13
And then they turn around and you know, you got pressure,
37:18
that's Blowing up a running play or you got somebody coming on
37:23
blocked off the edge and sacking Braxton.
37:27
I mean, there's, there's just so many inconsistent plays and not
37:30
just the inconsistent that you see over the course of a
37:32
standard game but just really, really high highs and low lows,
37:37
very true. No, well, let's say this brine
37:40
two guys that when they get the balls in their hands have done
37:45
it very well. This year tray and tape both
37:48
really good days catching the ball.
37:50
Tray over 110 a with 76, and then you don't take on top of
37:56
what he did in the punt game, over 140 yards from scrimmage
38:00
and it's again, I have some people say, well we don't have
38:03
talent. We can't.
38:05
When you get these guys in the right positions and today they
38:09
were put out yesterday, they were put in the right position
38:12
we can, we can have nice things. Yeah, the question is, is they
38:17
don't get put in right positions enough We actually ran some.
38:22
Well, that's just say. Initially on the first drive, we
38:25
ran some routes over the middle of the field and then they
38:27
completely went away for a quarter and a half.
38:31
And then we finally went back. Another post, we had a dig and
38:36
we had a slant and I'm like we can throw to the middle again
38:41
because I thought, I thought somebody upstairs said, all
38:46
right we're not throwing in the middle of the rest of the damn
38:48
game. Everything's outside the
38:49
numbers. We finally started throwing back
38:52
to the middle of the field. And we started getting a little
38:53
bit more success. The problem was that nothing was
38:56
sustained. And You know, Trey had about
39:01
three big plays and was pretty steady throughout the day, you
39:06
note a had a couple balls that were threat that where he was
39:08
open in the ball wasn't thrown well to him a couple other
39:11
places where he was opening just in get there.
39:15
So I mean, these are, these are good days.
39:17
That could have been great days if we would have been a little
39:20
bit more consistent execution-wise.
39:24
And you know, what can we say about tail on that?
39:27
That kick return? I mean, that punt return.
39:29
I mean, that was just all that wide, cut up field, cut back,
39:34
touchdown and beautiful. It was absent watch and, and
39:39
that punter, got completely railed on the sidelines, because
39:43
he out kicked his coverage. And then he did a very bad job
39:48
of being the last line of defense.
39:54
Honors, our last line, but offense Ron.
39:56
But again, those two guys were great days.
39:58
All right, let's go to gigantic screw-ups or what the hell
40:03
moments less sorts of all. I listen to the presser
40:07
afterwards, the fake punt for, when they took absolutely 1000%
40:12
responsibility for, he said that they had noticed that with
40:16
Richmond, anytime they punted their Gunners essentially left.
40:21
The guys. Yep.
40:23
So they would just leave their guys.
40:26
I'm assuming setting up blocking.
40:28
He says, we punted the first time and they did it.
40:31
So on the second time we punted, we felt there was an opportunity
40:35
there, and then he said, kind of the way he said, did you hear
40:42
his voice was more of a joking thing of Peter had slung the
40:46
ball? Good.
40:46
All week. When we were trying these fakes
40:49
hell, I told him. You know, if you hadn't thrown
40:53
the ball so good. All week, I don't even thought
40:55
about, you know, calling for calls for the guys open.
41:00
It's a bad pass, you know, if it was Dorian strong, he was, he
41:05
was targeting their bad. And I mean, he came open, just
41:08
like, they had seen on tape. And, you know, I think the weird
41:13
thing is number one, you felt the need to do that.
41:16
Number two, Did you rep? I mean, did you wrap it enough?
41:21
We're more was comfortable with it, because obviously, what was
41:26
it? Look ready to throw?
41:27
A 25 yard pass? My looks okay with that.
41:36
I'm okay with that. If the pass is completed,
41:48
actually, regardless, whether the past was completed or
41:50
incomplete, every time we are in a plus situation, was it plus
41:55
42? I think that's where we were,
41:58
that sound, right? Simpler it.
42:02
Let me pull up the summary here on my phone.
42:05
Efforting, efforting efforts. He had 14 after teen.
42:09
This is it right here? Yes, second part.
42:15
We were at their 41. So we were in plus territory.
42:20
I think what you can do by putting it on tape?
42:22
Regardless of outcome is if it's a situation like that in plus
42:28
territory and you go back and show pot, there does have to be
42:32
a respect, right? There has to be a respect to
42:36
show. Okay.
42:37
Listen these dummies, you know, they ran a fake punt against
42:42
Richmond. Would they do it against us?
42:45
Let's, let's play. Let's Play A prevent or let's
42:48
play. Very cautious punt, return or
42:52
punt. Block.
42:53
I'm okay with that. And I'm also going to the
42:56
ownership. Yeah, I've got no problem with
42:59
the ownership. I've got a problem with.
43:02
You've got Notre. Dame up next.
43:05
And I would much rather them not show their hand and spring
43:09
something like that against Notre Dame.
43:11
And whether they work or not, then put it on tape and maybe
43:16
gain an extra five to seven yards of field position because
43:20
they honored the The fake, that's all where they punted
43:27
from Braun 527 yards. Could mean being from the tend
43:30
to be in at like the to. So you know I can argue with you
43:36
that way because the way the defense is played.
43:38
If you tell me we have a team with the quarterback like Jack
43:41
cone who can't run. We could probably get him down
43:44
in the end zone or something. Yeah but if we're kicking from
43:47
the 41 I like Peter Morris chances of getting it, okay?
43:51
There regardless of what's Happening.
43:54
You got it. Got you got you because he is a
43:56
stud. All right, let's go to the other
43:58
mind-boggling thing. I didn't get to see this live.
44:02
So Brian, we're inside the 10-yard line.
44:05
It's only a seven. Nothing game.
44:07
Yeah, we come out of commercial. And they talk about knocks Kata
44:12
me quarterback. Let me ask the first.
44:14
Words are the first thing that popped in your mind.
44:18
What the hell are we doing? And in this is no knock on Knox.
44:25
I mean, I thought this was a game where and even based on the
44:29
the explanation we got regardless of score getting
44:32
knocked snaps would have been a good thing in this game.
44:36
The problem is when you did it, you did it when you're only up a
44:40
touchdown. So the game is definitely not in
44:42
hand, and you did it inside the test again.
44:48
Well and this is where I feel like it was more of the
44:52
different tones to brag because he said it in the pressure.
44:55
The timing of him going in was not prescribed, you know, it
44:59
wasn't a deal where one guy has to be looking over his shoulder.
45:02
The facts were, he was going to play, and it's going to the
45:05
whole not. Prescribed thing, is they hadn't
45:07
determined before, this wasn't third drive or fourth drive,
45:12
whatever it was Knox is going in.
45:14
This was for whatever reason. They decided that this was the
45:17
best time. Put in knocks kadem.
45:20
Well in the question is who decided?
45:23
Yeah it sounds like it wasn't fuu.
45:27
No, no no just too because of the way he said it right there
45:32
is decision but again he sounds like he lets Brad do do what he
45:37
wants. Yeah.
45:39
So I mean that was the big thing because he gets down there and I
45:44
feel like the play calling wasn't great.
45:46
We had a the where he threw Who the Pick?
45:49
It was kind of like a little quick Sprint, right.
45:52
Yeah. Which a quick Sprint on the
45:55
6-yard line, puts you in the end zone and he was getting Bear
46:00
Down on and didn't throw the the route on time and then once he
46:05
saw he was in the end zone and might take a sack panicked and
46:09
chucked it choked it and it was it was about two seconds, too
46:13
late. If he'd have thrown that on
46:15
time, it would have probably been a completion, but he threw
46:17
it late. Corner undercut, the route or
46:20
sorry, safety, undercut the route.
46:21
And and you gotta got interception if he takes it on
46:25
his third step from sprinting and puts it at a, it's a 15-yard
46:29
gain. All is all is well, but he
46:32
didn't. And essentially it said up
46:33
there, only touchdown of the day and for what they went on like
46:38
oh, he's got to be secure, it's like you put the back up in a
46:42
terrible y'all put the back up in a terrible situation.
46:45
Now if you're if you're a good head coach, when you see Enochs
46:48
coming going out there or coming to you to discuss.
46:51
And I don't know how that would go since it was, you know, it
46:54
wasn't the beginning of a drive. It was a punt.
46:57
I know things are done differently.
46:59
I would have went on my headset when we put my headset on here.
47:03
What the hell are you thinking? I'm Knox isn't going to go out
47:06
here at the 10th if we're at the 40.
47:08
Yeah let's let him go. We're at the 10-yard line.
47:11
This is the one touchdown me and essentially it it it made the
47:15
game even more uncomfortable or than it was.
47:19
So yeah. In the the problem that I had
47:23
with that is that when you bring in a quarterback, your second
47:27
string quarterback what you want to do is give him some play
47:31
calls that get him comfortable. When you're at the 6-yard line
47:35
you cannot make those calls. Everything is tight.
47:39
And you made tight calls and then he played tight because he
47:43
was put in the situation where he's almost set up to fail.
47:47
It was they hate that for Knox. I mean, regardless of the
47:50
outcome of the game or how it impacted the game, I hate that
47:54
for Knox and his confidence because you put him in a
47:57
scenario where he either feels really good or really bad about
48:01
himself. There wasn't going to be any
48:03
sort of Middle Ground there, right?
48:05
Well he's either going to he was either going to throw them out
48:08
of the Shadows. Do their own goal post or he's
48:13
going to make the play he made and not really not see the field
48:16
the rest of the game. And that's the unfortunate thing
48:19
there because you put him in that scenario where more than
48:24
likely he's going to, he's going to have a failure.
48:27
So I don't like that at all. Well, Brian, we finally saw the
48:32
third quarter back again this week.
48:36
Kind of Berlin scores a touchdown.
48:38
And all I thought was a nice all that.
48:40
Where the hell was that? When we play West Virginia,
48:43
fourth and one inside the five like it, which I'm inside the
48:47
five, all three of them. And every time you go to is,
48:55
especially when we were down inside the three twice, the
48:59
that's when it just. It boggles me because you saw
49:01
the play, we're an easy touchdown.
49:04
I want to make a bet. That one work would have
49:07
probably got it in at least once if not twice it, put in those
49:11
situations again guy running the show, don't know what he doing,
49:16
but can we just, can we continue to use the guy right?
49:20
Brian. I mean situationally like we've
49:23
been calling for that we were calling for for two years, when
49:27
Quincy Patterson was here. And we were calling or against
49:32
West Virginia and we were saying from jump, Treat let.
49:36
I mean Braxton's. Not the biggest quarterback in
49:38
the world you know, you're already gunshot on the read
49:43
option. If you want to actually have
49:45
some of those elements in the offense, you need to get Connor
49:48
blumberg on the field as much as you can.
49:50
Absolutely, this is all I'm going to say, Notre Dame game in
49:54
two weeks. If we are third and one or
49:59
fourth and one or inside the three in Connors, not in with
50:02
some sort of play. I'm going to swing by your house
50:06
middle of the game. We're going to turn on radio
50:08
Wilson to laze, burn up in West. We're going to drive to
50:11
Blacksburg, and we're going to sit outside merryman, great for
50:16
Brad to come out. And be light.
50:19
Seriously like Perfect Situation.
50:22
Exactly. LeBron all is not lost.
50:26
The defense, played exceptionally well again and I
50:28
tell you the more I watch this defense.
50:31
This defense is reminding me of the 2016 defense.
50:34
Not one of the elite defense has not not not what 17 was or the
50:39
mid 2000's or the you know late 90s but it reminded me of 2016.
50:43
We're at defense gave up roughly about 22 points a game.
50:49
About. I think they were 29th or 30th
50:51
in Total Defense so they, you know, that upper third of the
50:57
thing. This is what they're really
50:58
reminded me of, because they're Bend or break, you can get some
51:04
yards on them, but eventually you're going to get to a point
51:07
of field, you can Get to a point of the field.
51:09
You can't get to a point in the field where they make a play
51:13
you're up. And now you're either out of
51:14
field goal range, or you, you forced a turnover.
51:19
Yeah, we've seen that a couple times so far with this defense
51:22
where you know they get they get inside the 30 but all of a
51:25
sudden they end up fourth down there, they're back at the 32
51:28
33, yard line, forced a couple turnovers once they cross the
51:33
50. So I mean you like what the
51:35
defense is doing on that regard, still really good.
51:38
Good play out of Waller, solid. Play out of Dax.
51:47
Tisdale was a little more up doubt.
51:49
He had a good game but Tisdale was up and down in terms of his
51:53
his Gap fits but overall, good game, he had a good game with
51:59
with his tackling tackling overall was improved this week.
52:04
It wasn't as good as I'd like to see but definitely a lot better
52:06
than it was against West Virginia.
52:09
I mentioned this earlier and I don't think you ever answer
52:12
someone put you on the spot. If we bring the tackling game
52:16
this week to last week, is it a different outcome?
52:22
It's close. I mean, it's hard to tell.
52:26
It's hard to tell, okay. It's hard to tell if we give up
52:30
some it was those like the crippling first downs?
52:34
Like you see what we did this week?
52:36
Like that. Tomorrow, we can try to take
52:37
that shot from the tackles. He had this week.
52:40
If that was the tackle there, they don't get that first down.
52:44
Yeah, I'm going to school. Yeah.
52:48
What else? I got a couple points of worry.
52:52
Tell me if I'm right or wrong. Braun the running, okay, that
52:55
kind of scared me. Some of the plays he get good
52:57
and just in general some of the run, some of the gashes and I
53:01
know it and it certain points in time we were mixing and
53:04
matching, you know, trying to get some guys, some reps.
53:10
So, you know, it was a different sort of depth and I saw Keyshawn
53:14
out there. It's all some of the younger
53:16
defensive linemen out there. Should I be worried about those
53:19
things? I'd say overall I would be too
53:25
worried the running quarterback. I know that was kind of a little
53:33
bit of an anomaly because the first big run that their
53:37
starting quarterback got injured on that was kind of a busted
53:41
play that he just kind of made something happen.
53:45
So, sometimes things like that happen.
53:48
I mean, that's just not, that's not something that I would be
53:51
overly concerned. About there were a couple QB
53:54
runs where we were just a little bit out of position but overall
53:59
I mean we probably had the face, the better of the rushing
54:05
quarterbacks. Yeah.
54:07
On that roster and did a pretty good job of holding him in check
54:12
for most of the game. I'd like to see us be a little
54:16
bit better in some of our fits in the Run game.
54:21
We had a couple Couple spots where we were out of the Gap and
54:25
they were able to kind of get to the second level and our
54:27
safeties had to make a play one in particular, where I can't
54:32
remember which safety it was. But they had a kind of make a
54:35
shoestring tackle to avoid a touchdown run.
54:39
Right up the gut. So we got to do better about
54:42
that. It's got to get cleaned up, but
54:45
overall it was good, but we can't let one or two misfires
54:50
turn into really big plays that. That cost of the game because we
54:54
don't if our offense keeps playing like this, we don't have
54:57
a ton of room for error no and and big sudden plays are going
55:02
to be bad for us because we've seen that if we get into the
55:06
tighter area, we tend to Bow up and force field goals.
55:10
We can't let them score from from 40 plus yards out.
55:14
Yeah. And the next eight games, the
55:15
way they're seeing teams, is, it can happen and one guy got back
55:21
in the stack, On this week. So I'm a little more in the
55:24
action was a Mars bar. No, definitely got to get him
55:27
back to what he was doing early. I mean t key in on him the man
55:31
you can just see it in every snap they know where he is and
55:35
they are adjusting to him. They're keying on him, they're
55:38
running at him in there in the Rush game.
55:41
I will say I saw him doing some good things in terms of when he
55:45
was blocked, he kept working. He ran down a running back.
55:52
Back down the field, like eight yards down field, he walked him
55:57
down. So yeah, that was impressive
56:01
just seeing him flash that athleticism is pretty, pretty
56:04
impactful. And I'm hoping that he gets a
56:06
little bit more involved in the kind of the tackle for loss
56:10
game. Like we saw him in game one
56:13
because, you know, we saw that game rely.
56:17
All right. This is what we're going to get
56:18
all year and we have a really, really seen that since, since
56:21
you See, and some of that it looks like unc's offensive line
56:26
is just bad. True.
56:29
Their veteran is hell, and they're just bad.
56:32
Not a good offensive on whatsoever.
56:35
All right. Brian last night.
56:37
Me, you dropped the pole out on the twittersphere, got over 100
56:41
votes and basically, we were asking Hokie Nation out on
56:46
Twitter that are followers, you know, after the Richmond game
56:49
and after the first month of the season, Where do you feel with
56:53
the last eight games of the season?
56:54
And, you know, the answers were three or less for five or six or
56:58
more. And brine mean you already
57:02
talked about it? I went and I'm at the beginning
57:05
of the season, I felt good about it after the first, I felt good
57:09
about it, even after West Virginia I'm at for now because
57:13
now you've seen Syracuse is better than we thought.
57:19
Yeah, it was better than we thought a, we think.
57:21
I don't know what it is. It's like Georgia Tech when
57:24
you're picking there. An anomaly for you pit.
57:27
Lives and dies by, how good of a game, can he pick it can have
57:30
against any given defense? They really, they still don't
57:36
have a running game, their offensive line is still suspect.
57:40
Their defense is not as good as it was last year, but if Penny,
57:44
if Kenny pick, it goes out and has a good game there.
57:47
Potentially going to have a chance to win.
57:50
And especially when they play lesser competition, like, they
57:52
did this week, but you said it Syracuse their defense looks
57:56
good. Their running game is on track.
57:59
Georgia Tech has been playing significant Up with the Georgia
58:04
Tech yet, even if it is, it first two weeks, Georgia, Tech
58:07
or is it lasts two weeks, Georgia Tech because they're
58:10
completely different teams exhaust top-to-bottom,
58:14
completely different teams on. So I'm going to just say this,
58:20
that might be the worst events in the country.
58:23
I mean it's up there. If you talk about the four is
58:25
the worst Power. It might be the worst Power 5
58:27
defense in the country. I mean, it's not even a joke.
58:30
I don't think that's that much of a hyperbola.
58:32
Lee. We're both of big.
58:34
They can't get pressure on the quarterback anymore, and their
58:37
secondary is god-awful gahbage. All right?
58:41
So just so, you know, if you guys are known where other
58:43
people are standing for, is the winner at 35 percent.
58:48
Yep. Second kind of shocking.
58:50
To me was five wins at 28% three or less at 25 percent.
58:56
And there is about 10, people who voted in this.
59:00
That say, we can win six or more.
59:03
More. What tackle on that.
59:06
So they're actually got some positive folks out there. 10% of
59:09
y'all are still leaning positive.
59:12
I'm right at I'm saying for I can see five, I could you know
59:18
what I'll be. I mean this is the true optimist
59:20
in me. If we hear that there are
59:22
significant changes being made on offense.
59:26
I think I can lean more toward higher side but I don't have
59:29
faith in that and that's why I got to stick with for saying,
59:32
will probably be Eva will probably beat Georgia Tech just
59:37
because I think the defense on those two games Kenny pick it
59:41
has nightmares of Lane stadium. So I think he does it.
59:46
Kenny picking hates playing in Lane.
59:49
I'd feel better about Georgia Tech.
59:51
If we were playing in Lane I feel better about Syracuse only
59:54
because you're playing Elaine. That's right.
59:59
It's one of the screwed up ones. They get back to back home
1:00:01
games. Yep.
1:00:02
Because of covid. Okay.
1:00:04
Alright. So we're feeling a seven and
1:00:07
five season coming on and less changes are made and
1:00:11
implemented. All right, buddy, did you watch
1:00:17
any other work up? I watch some of it.
1:00:19
I watch some of it. I know you watched a lot of it.
1:00:25
All day Friday. You digested.
1:00:27
It, I died yesterday Saturday, as much as we could before we
1:00:31
add some mom afternoon activities and then I came back
1:00:35
continue to watch it. It literally was on my.
1:00:38
Like, I told I told y'all Thursday night, it was on the
1:00:41
big screen here at the house and then today, literally from lunch
1:00:47
time until they were doing the presser and the guys had their
1:00:51
champagne bottle. The US team, by the way.
1:00:55
Unbelievable, and it's a core group.
1:00:59
I know I'm being golf, nerdy, the oldest person on that team
1:01:01
is 37 in the youngest is 24. Essentially, this is a team that
1:01:06
for the next four Ryder cups could be together and they're
1:01:10
good, and they're passionate, and they've got fight in them,
1:01:15
they've got grit in them, but they also have the whole listen
1:01:20
to Patrick can't late. Like, Patrick can't lay is just
1:01:23
like, cold-blooded. Like he was Like we want to
1:01:25
bleep and put 20 on them today and it's like Jesus.
1:01:28
Like we wouldn't break the scoring record.
1:01:30
We want to blow them out of the water and it's just like, this
1:01:35
is great to me. The other part that was really
1:01:38
awesome and it happens every Ryder Cup.
1:01:41
When they whoever wins gets absolutely hammered hammered
1:01:47
from the time. The last match ends until about
1:01:49
an hour and 20 minutes later, the press conference and it's
1:01:52
like the best press conference of the Year.
1:01:54
Oh yeah. Yeah.
1:01:56
So I saw that Brooks and Bryce and hugged it out.
1:02:01
Point it out and you know what I think maybe having two guys who
1:02:05
have a little Feud going on, might be one of those good
1:02:08
things for a team because it what it essentially for a if
1:02:14
you're the captain it's like, okay, I got to get these guys on
1:02:16
the same page before I worry about anything else.
1:02:18
Once I get them on the same page, then we start working with
1:02:21
the other details and whatnot but great when 8:42 essentially
1:02:29
a unbelievable. All right out.
1:02:32
And, you know, now, I got to wait two years and in two years,
1:02:35
I'll be getting up. I think it's in Rome 2.
1:02:38
That means the for like we a and I will be up at like, I might
1:02:41
not make it the first hour, but I'll eat beliefs beyond my for,
1:02:44
am watching it, because you're crazy person, but I respect it
1:02:51
is just that it's, you know, it's just one of its one of
1:02:54
those scores. For me, it's a pain difference
1:02:57
for me. Or that early to watch events.
1:03:04
So, you know, I'm not like out here.
1:03:07
You know, every Thursday waking up at 3 a.m. watching the Euro
1:03:11
Tour on Golf Channel. Yeah.
1:03:13
Although you know, someone paid me to like Golf.
1:03:16
And by out there have a golf ball location.
1:03:19
I'd wake up at 3 and do it if you want to pay me, I'm 500.
1:03:27
I'm 500 now. My you are two games above 500
1:03:31
in the Saturday. Pick them's.
1:03:33
Yes sir. I lost world through the list
1:03:36
here. Brian you started off with the
1:03:38
rough Friday night. You took UVA.
1:03:41
You laid the for it was probably a good feeling of losing though.
1:03:45
I mean, yeah, I was like, okay, well, I mean wakes up somewhat
1:03:50
like, I think I said it even on the, on the podcast when we
1:03:53
recorded like wakes a likable team.
1:03:55
So if I lose that when I'm fine with that one, he awakes looking
1:04:00
like, you know, potentially an example, B team in the Atlantic
1:04:06
will see how that shakes out, I guess then we're BC with Clemson
1:04:12
in there. But I mean, we actually have
1:04:14
some drama in the Atlantic this year.
1:04:17
So you like to see that Yeah, I chose wake because again you
1:04:22
cannot have that bad of a defense.
1:04:24
I don't care how good your offense is, your offense is
1:04:27
going to have to score every possession.
1:04:28
I think wait to have to punt until like late 3rd, which is
1:04:33
alright. The next one we both nailed Hugh
1:04:36
freeze and Malik. Willis at Liberty, go up to the
1:04:39
Dome and find out playing at that place is just not fun cuse
1:04:43
wins out right? You said it earlier.
1:04:45
Brian their defense look good. There Run game.
1:04:48
Looks in shape. Um, and you know that game it
1:04:54
luckily it is at Lane. It is not at the Dome that year.
1:04:59
I think that that's the big thing we can hang our hat on is
1:05:03
that? Yes.
1:05:04
Syracuse looks better than we thought.
1:05:07
They'd at least look, competent. Even that mean I don't think
1:05:09
they're going to make any sort of noise anywhere, but they're
1:05:13
they're not an easy out anymore and having them at Lane I think
1:05:17
is going to work in our favor. I think we'll have enough.
1:05:20
Enough juice to get through that one.
1:05:23
But it's definitely, it's not one that I'm necessarily saying
1:05:28
book a win anymore. No, no, it's going to be
1:05:30
probably a probably be a ugly defensive War unless we made
1:05:33
changes by then. All right.
1:05:35
Brian you. And with the ACC I went with the
1:05:38
SEC, BC, pulls out the overtime, win in, and I need to see more
1:05:47
about Mizzou. Then BC because I want to see
1:05:53
how bad Mizzou is now, because the 2p five teams they played,
1:06:00
they've lost to Kentucky, they lost a BC.
1:06:03
So are they really just a bad team or what?
1:06:07
But ju you believed in BC and you nailed that one though.
1:06:13
Yeah, I know me and I don't think Kentucky is a bad team
1:06:15
either. I mean they're sitting What they
1:06:19
are for know, so far. So I mean I know they have laid
1:06:23
the tuna they'd be they be a still rebuilding South Carolina
1:06:28
team they beat Mizzou and they be Chattanooga and Louisiana
1:06:33
Monroe. So, yeah.
1:06:35
Alright, the next one was one. We didn't even take any time to
1:06:38
pull the trigger for Louisville, blow the doors off of ss U FS.
1:06:44
You might win one game this year.
1:06:46
If they don't beat you, man. Fast.
1:06:48
I don't maybe two. Who are you giving them one or
1:06:52
two even Syracuse anymore? Yeah, Florida.
1:07:00
So they're NC State essentially, pulling the huge upset over.
1:07:06
Clemson Clemson, How much of that game?
1:07:10
Did you watch? Most of it.
1:07:14
All right, everybody's talking about all DJ's, not that good
1:07:20
and the alley. Their offensive line looks worse
1:07:25
than ours. It definitely looks not what it
1:07:29
should and that's what that's part of what's holding them
1:07:32
back. DJ's play overall is holding
1:07:35
them back. I think.
1:07:42
They're not as deep at wide receiver, as they're used to.
1:07:47
There's just a lot of factors their defense is still good, but
1:07:50
they're deaf ends isn't going to win them games.
1:07:53
When they play teams, that can still at least put up 20 points
1:07:56
against them. Bingo, bango bongo.
1:07:59
That's the honest truth. Right there, man.
1:08:01
So we taking a look together on that one.
1:08:06
I hate Duke, I swear, I'm not there.
1:08:08
Ha ha ha that game, I look at that game in 3rd Corps, like I
1:08:13
got this, this looks good. Kansas at 16 and cans.
1:08:16
It was like up or down like one, I'm like, who's going to win the
1:08:19
game? Do you just like open the
1:08:21
floodgates? The last quarter.
1:08:23
So good, job Ryan. Good job.
1:08:27
Duke has been what I picked against someone time and ever
1:08:31
since then. I've been I was like, I'm not
1:08:33
going to pick against Duke anymore.
1:08:35
I'm just gonna go duke every time.
1:08:37
Now, the other ones it got you again.
1:08:40
Yeah, I told you bitch, I told you hangover you didn't want to
1:08:44
believe me. Brandon believe in hangovers,
1:08:47
Georgia Tech laid, the smackdown on UNC.
1:08:50
And now it looks like anyone with a cervical defense is
1:08:53
probably going to beat you in C or at worst being a shootout
1:08:56
with them, so, you know, but bronze anomaly is Georgia Tech.
1:09:03
Literally, we might take those off the board for ourselves yet,
1:09:09
unless we're playing them Dukes. Can George attacker off.
1:09:12
Not going to discuss them at all.
1:09:14
Alright? Now, the last couple of the big
1:09:17
games of the weekend, we both took the Irish against Wisconsin
1:09:20
in Chicago. That look if e going through the
1:09:24
4th and then just Notre Dame, went insane in the fourth
1:09:29
quarter. Well, let's let's compare this
1:09:32
because that gain kind of went the same way.
1:09:36
Wisconsin played Ohio State, right?
1:09:40
Penn State Penn State didn't play.
1:09:42
Yeah. Sorry Penn State Penn State.
1:09:43
Sorry. Yeah.
1:09:45
So except except Notre Dame. Every time they touch the ball
1:09:50
that late they they scored a weapon state couldn't get itself
1:09:56
moving against them. Yep.
1:09:58
So craziness there and then Arkansas and saying Pittman
1:10:03
they're for real. Yeah, they're for real we were
1:10:07
on top of that one. Yeah, I was thinking Arkansas.
1:10:11
Could win that one out, right? And I mean, they went out there
1:10:14
and they stuck it to him, man. Exactly.
1:10:19
And then finally, the big game, Saturday night West, Virginia,
1:10:22
Oklahoma, we both took Oklahoma, Oklahoma.
1:10:25
I don't know what's wrong with them.
1:10:26
I didn't see enough of that game.
1:10:27
Saturday night, I saw a piece of it here and there saw the ending
1:10:31
botched snap West. Virginia West Virginia
1:10:34
essentially should have won that game probably lost a tech.
1:10:38
So, Their car most kind of balancing out there.
1:10:43
You know, we took the L on that it's just I'd rather be on the
1:10:47
other side of that. Damn right?
1:10:50
Yeah. West Virginia was going to be a
1:10:51
to Lost team. I wish you would have been, you
1:10:53
know, we'd have been one of those laws losses.
1:10:56
But at least you know what, you know what I mean.
1:11:00
I think one of the things that shown Is that West Virginia is,
1:11:03
at least on defense and good defense.
1:11:06
We scored more points than Ivana If you know, so they've got two
1:11:11
losses but one of those is to Maryland where they gave them, a
1:11:14
short feel two times. And they've actually got a
1:11:16
quarterback that can throw the ball downfield.
1:11:18
Yep. And you know they took an L2
1:11:22
Oklahoma that went down to the wire and a low scoring Affair in
1:11:26
Norman. Yeah.
1:11:27
And your material, they did that in Norman.
1:11:29
They didn't do that and they're there.
1:11:31
They have not been historically, a good road team know, in the
1:11:35
last several years. So very fact that they took a
1:11:39
game that was big and took that team to the wire was good for
1:11:43
them. Even though we're not sure how
1:11:46
good this Oklahoma team. And let's since we're here let's
1:11:50
talk about just college football as a whole man because there's
1:11:53
about three teams that I trust right now.
1:11:55
And then everybody else. I trust Bama, I trust ugga and I
1:12:01
trust Oregon those are the only three teams that if they're
1:12:06
playing a game where they have Any sort of advantage that I'd
1:12:11
say. Okay, they're probably going to
1:12:12
win that game. Yep, everybody else.
1:12:16
It is the right now. The way it looks is the fourth
1:12:19
playoff spot. No one knows.
1:12:22
No one wants to go. I mean, no one wants that.
1:12:26
You've had every other team that normally is, at least in this
1:12:29
conversation through, at least mid-october.
1:12:32
If not early, November already has one loss.
1:12:36
Well, they already have a lot of them.
1:12:38
Have two losses. Some have two and then those
1:12:41
without what else that's garbage.
1:12:46
So I watched Red Warriors play. They called a pi on him but it's
1:12:49
not. But anyway, and then you have
1:12:52
like your Ohio State's, right? Yeah.
1:12:55
Lost organ already at home. Kind of got dominated trying to
1:12:59
do quarterback changes just the way they've looked against their
1:13:02
last two. Opponents have just and even the
1:13:05
way it looked against Minnesota in Minnesota.
1:13:08
Oh God. That loss eat makes it look even
1:13:11
worse. Yeah, I mean it's if it is a
1:13:15
true, it's a week-to-week. I have I have no confidence like
1:13:20
we just ran through a pick em and I'm lean.
1:13:23
At least picking ACC I at least am in my comfort zone, but even
1:13:29
there it's, it's dicey, Georgia Tech doing stuff.
1:13:33
You don't expect, dudes doing stuff, you don't expect, you
1:13:37
know, Louisville, being a little bit better than we thought they
1:13:40
were out the gate BC still. Having a solid team despite
1:13:44
losing their starting quarterback.
1:13:46
I mean, there's so many unpredictable things that are
1:13:49
happening UNC with two conference losses already.
1:13:52
I mean, NC State beating Clemson.
1:13:56
All of this is just, it's shit that we didn't see to start the
1:14:02
season. Usually college football is
1:14:04
unpredictable, but not this unpredictable.
1:14:06
All right, I'm going to throw this at you before we sign off
1:14:09
the night. This has every makings of 2007.
1:14:16
Yeah, every makings of 2007, that's all I'm going to say.
1:14:21
I think it's going to be some stuff that happens.
1:14:23
These next two months, you know what?
1:14:26
Whether you're whether you if you love the team, you know
1:14:29
what, Justin Fuente, make the change.
1:14:31
Make yourself to play caller. Let's win out.
1:14:34
Let's make the playoffs. Ryan's like yeah, I just need to
1:14:42
see Signs of Life from the offense, where we can
1:14:44
consistently move the ball in the passing game.
1:14:50
Do decent things in the running game and at least average.
1:14:54
I mean, right now are points per game.
1:14:57
Average is garbage. We need to at least get close to
1:15:01
3000, go. Yeah, we're a full.
1:15:03
We're a full actually. We're more than a touchdown away
1:15:06
from that. Yeah.
1:15:08
What? Y'all come in, come in Wednesday
1:15:10
night, we're not going to be here next Sunday, we're not
1:15:12
playing. So we're going to we're going to
1:15:14
take about a week as well, but come in Wednesday night and what
1:15:17
we're going to take a look at guys is we're just going to do a
1:15:22
do a review of what was look like the first four games.
1:15:27
So y'all come back Wednesday night, Brian, anything drop.
1:15:30
Did anybody get fired? Not yet, man.
1:15:34
Still got a Monday pressure, though.
1:15:35
Got a bunch of mice. Zimmer saved his job today, I'm
1:15:39
pretty sure. And you know what Brian?
1:15:42
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lessons, buddy. Yes, sir could not have done
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this without you guys out there listening and following us.
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We really appreciate it. We're just two guys who love.
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Hope you football? Brian as as always Bud.
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Let's go Hokies.