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Semi-Psychic · Boozy Banter with Friends

• 0:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello and welcome to boozy banter.
• 0:20
  Diane Black: With friends.
• 0:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm Leyla.
• 0:22
  Trisha Smith: I'm Trisha.
• 0:23
  Diane Black: I'm Diane.
• 0:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Grab your favorite spirit and join us because shits about to get real.
• 0:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello.
• 0:39
  Diane Black: Hey there.
• 0:39
  Trisha Smith: Hi.
• 0:41
  Trisha Smith: Hello.
• 0:42
  Lynn: Hi.
• 0:42
  Trisha Smith: Hi.
• 0:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: How is everybody?
• 0:48
  Diane Black: Well, I'm well.
• 0:50
  Diane Black: Well.
• 0:52
  Diane Black: Trisha.
• 0:53
  Trisha Smith: I will never get used to that. Never, every time she says well. I'm like and, I feel like you're saying, well, let me tell ya.
• 1:01
  Diane Black: I'm just using proper english because my husband schooled me.
• 1:04
  Trisha Smith: You are. Still throws me off.
• 1:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: Still.
• 1:08
  Diane Black: I know.
• 1:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm adequate.
• 1:09
  Diane Black: Adequate.
• 1:11
  Leyla Zmeskal: Fair to partly cloudy.
• 1:14
  Trisha Smith: I'm doing pretty good.
• 1:15
  Diane Black: We've got it all covered.
• 1:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: How about our special guest?
• 1:20
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, we have a special guest today.
• 1:25
  Lynn: I'm good.
• 1:28
  Diane Black: Poor English.
• 1:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Diane, would you like to introduce our special guest?
• 1:31
  Unknown: Yes. Our special guest today is a longtime friend of mine, Lynne Pearman and we've known each other for,
• 1:42
  Lynn: 20 years.
• 1:43
  Diane Black: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:43
  Diane Black: She is multi talented. She's a sensitive. She's a smarty and she's very funny. We love her muchly. So she's here today to hare some of her insight tha she has being an RN in mu tiple facets and ICU and and wh
• 2:04
  Lynn: We'll see what, tever else she wants to share wi h us maybe even some of her se sitive insights that you've ha experiences along the way.
• 2:13
  Trisha Smith: Pops up.
• 2:13
  Diane Black: Well first of all, Leyla, you want to ask her?
• 2:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Ask her what?
• 2:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: What is she drinking?
• 2:22
  Trisha Smith: Because we're day drinking today.
• 2:23
  Lynn: I'm drinking a special concoction of rum. What was the name of the rum?
• 2:27
  Diane Black: Black Magic.
• 2:28
  Lynn: Black Magic Rum which is nice. It has a very cool pirate label and Black Magic Rum with a little bit of Bing Cherry Juice and a Bing Cherry and some ginger ale.
• 2:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Sounds really good.
• 2:43
  Lynn: It's kind of like a sweeter Dark and Stormy.
• 2:48
  Diane Black: That's one of Leyla's favorites.
• 2:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: I do like Dark and Stormies. Diane, what about you? What are you drinking?
• 2:52
  Diane Black: I am drinking today actually a glass of wine and it's kind of a big deal.
• 2:58
  Trisha Smith: Right. You're normally not,
• 3:00
  Diane Black: No,
• 3:00
  Trisha Smith: Wine drinker.
• 3:02
  Diane Black: Sulphurs give me headaches. But this is Keel and Curley, Peach. It's a winery that's not too far from us in Plant City, Florida and I'm drinking it because I was given this thing. It's actually called the wand. You put it in and it's like a little strainer and absorber charcoal thing I think.
• 3:23
  Diane Black: And it's supposed to absorb the sulfites.
• 3:26
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 3:26
  Diane Black: So I'm drinking it slowly because I'm just so nervous about it.
• 3:30
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 3:31
  Diane Black: Because it's I don't know, it's been 10-12 years since I had a glass of wine.
• 3:34
  Trisha Smith: Right. I use the drops.
• 3:37
  Diane Black: I remember you saying that.
• 3:39
  Trisha Smith: The sulfite neutralizer drops.
• 3:41
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 3:41
  Trisha Smith: And they help a lot. They really do.
• 3:45
  Diane Black: I'll have to try that next.
• 3:46
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 3:47
  Diane Black: So So yeah, it's tasty. It's sweet. What are you drinking Leyla?
• 3:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm drinking Sangria but It's a special Sangria. The recipe was given to us by Joe from the District in Oviedo.
• 3:59
  Trisha Smith: District Eat And Play.
• 4:01
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, and it's super tasty. He's made it for you a couple times now.
• 4:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, it's pretty good.
• 4:07
  Trisha Smith: Super simple for something that tastes so good.
• 4:10
  Trisha Smith: You wouldn't even know all the ingredients that are in it. It has some rum, some Tequila, Moscato, ginger ale, and we threw in a little simple syrup and a cherry.
• 4:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: And a Bing Cherry.
• 4:23
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, and it's it's super good. I mean it tastes like Moscato or sangria.
• 4:27
  Trisha Smith: But you can't you wouldn't know that it had the rum, tequila in it at all.
• 4:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: No, not at all.
• 4:35
  Diane Black: It actually looks like, it looks light and airy.
• 4:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's really good.
• 4:39
  Trisha Smith: It would be really good with if you pre made it with some fruit. But I just did it the way he did it when you ordered it and it just mixed it all together and it tastes like something that's been sitting overnight, so it's good. I like it.
• 4:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, I like it.
• 4:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: A lot.
• 5:02
  Trisha Smith: Anything new?
• 5:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: No.
• 5:06
  Diane Black: No,
• 5:07
  Lynn: No.
• 5:10
  Diane Black: Sometimes no is a good thing to say.
• 5:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, that's not a bad thing.
• 5:13
  Diane Black: No,
• 5:14
  Trisha Smith: I agree.
• 5:14
  Diane Black: We want to jump right in.
• 5:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
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  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 5:17
  Diane Black: With our guests who's taking time out to come and be with us today and share some of her experiences, thoughts, ideas, opinions. So I want to ask you first, so you I know that you worked many years in the ICU,
• 5:35
  Lynn: Correct, I did.
• 5:36
  Diane Black: How many?
• 5:37
  Lynn: Seven.
• 5:38
  Diane Black: So I I've heard that the ICU is a really tough place. And you get burned out pretty?
• 5:43
  Lynn: Yes, you do. And I worked in trauma ICU. So it was particularly rough.
• 5:48
  Diane Black: Yeah. So with that, knowing that you've had a lot of background and that I was, well, we were interested, in your perspective or your experience, because sadly so when does trauma ICU, there's a lot of death that occurres, what can you tell us? Have you ever had?
• 6:03
  Diane Black: What were some of your experiences that maybe has shaped your belief and whether there is a soul whether there's an afterlife,
• 6:14
  Lynn: You know, having people ask you questions, because you know, they're, you know, they're grappling with the same questions that we are, but they're the they're in there with their loved one in the bed while they're grappling with those questions. And they ask you your opinion, so it kind of does make you have to think about, you know, what do I believe and, but then at the same time, you try to be impartial as a nurse, and just represent your patient and not try to lead anybody in any particular direction. Yeah, there have been times where I was like, Well, it depends, you know, he was like, there was this one person who was asking me about a girl who had been declared brain dead, but her body was still alive, because we were keeping her alive so that she could donate her organs and a loved one was in the room with me. And you know, he's holding her hand and stroking her and she's already been declared in legal sense dead. Even though the machines are making her breathe and keeping her heart beating, and the guy's like, so if she's brain dead, but her body's still alive is you know, is she in there? And I was like, wow, what a question, you know, and I said, Well, it just depends on you know, what you believe, you know, you know, and I kind of tried to represent both sides about the spirit stays until the body's dead or the spirit leaves when it's ready, and you don't expect to have a heavy conversation you know about such existential matters. But it does really make you think I did one time asked my friends who are all nurses and like, do you all think you know you have and I'm not talking about people that die suddenly that are fine or talking or whatever. And I said, I'm talking about people that have just been in a comatose state not moving, not doing anything for a long time, and then they pass away I asked my nurse friends. I said, even though the only thing about this person that has changed is that they're no longer alive. I said, Do you guys think they look different? And every single one of my nurse friend said yes, even though there's still this person hooked up to all these wires not moving? You know, there's something there that is gone, you know,
• 8:28
  Diane Black: So would you classify that is like the soul?
• 8:32
  Lynn: I would, the soul, the spirit, life force, whatever you want to call it? Yeah.
• 8:38
  Diane Black: Have you ever seen like a life force or light leave, leave a person?
• 8:43
  Lynn: I haven't. I haven't. But uh, you know, we, I was also asking my friends and like, have you noticed like, there's some people that their life forces gone before they're actually dead? And all my nurse friends said, Yes, I've known a few people that it seemed like their soul was already gone, even before they passed away, it was like, they knew where they were going and just went on ahead.
• 9:03
  Lynn: You know, we kind of all agreed about the same thing about people look different. Some of them, you know, the soul or the spirit stays longer, in some people than others and in some, and you can see it, you know.
• 9:16
  Diane Black: Yeah. People will say, oh, they're, they're waiting until this family member arrives. Do you agree with that, or have,
• 9:24
  Lynn: Yes,
• 9:24
  Diane Black: And and witnessed like experiences like that.
• 9:26
  Lynn: I've seen it on both sides. I've seen people who he thought were going to pass and they would, they would hold on until that one loved one made it to the hospital to say goodbye.
• 9:36
  Lynn: And then I've seen it the other way, where a lot of times I've seen a person who's getting ready to pass away and all of their family and their loved ones are surrounding them. And it's almost like the energy in the love of their family keeps them here. And I've seen it more times than not though it's like late at night when most people are gone or the family member that you know, doing the bedside watch, just gets up and goes to the bathroom. And that's when the person's spirit will decide to leave when there's no one around the bed that's holding them here. I've seen that. See, a lot of times. I've seen that a lot of times, where the patient, they don't pass until everyone's gone.
• 10:20
  Diane Black: Yeah, that's so fascinating. you consider yourself a sensitive?
• 10:25
  Lynn: Yes, I do.
• 10:26
  Diane Black: Can you explain like, what that is? Like in what way? Because I have shared and my ways of how I consider myself a sensitive. I'm curious to hear how you consider yourself a sensitive.
• 10:40
  Lynn: Well, it was a thing that kind of revealed itself gradually, where you have a dream, and then that what you dream happens the next day, and you think, oh, that's just a coincidence. And then, you know, it develops into where you have a dream, and that day, the person calls and makes the plans for the thing that you dreamed that you guys were doing together, you know, stuff like that. And
• 11:04
  Diane Black: That's almost more like a psychic level.
• 11:06
  Lynn: Yeah. And getting feelings about things. But it's always never specific. I always say I'm semi psychic. Because, you know, I'll get, I'll get a bad feeling. But I can't tell you who it's about or what it is, you know, but I'll just know is something you know, bad is getting ready to happen. And sometimes they'll just pick up on energy in a place or in a room and I'll just have this, uncomfortable feeling that we need to leave. And I don't know what that is. It's real enough that it makes me leave.
• 11:40
  Diane Black: Yeah. How old were you when you first remember that happening? And then how,
• 11:45
  Lynn: Probably like six, I was like, five, six years?
• 11:49
  Diane Black: Yeah, and then, like, when did you come to the realization that or the understanding that, oh, okay, this is why these feelings happened to me. This is,
• 11:59
  Lynn: You know, I was able to dismiss it. And you know, just put it off as coincidence or whatever. But it was really Tam, who was the one who was like pointing things out, and she's like, this doesn't happen to everybody. Okay. you know, this is, this is kind of a big deal.
• 12:13
  Lynn: All these coincidences and they're too close. And it was, I would say, it's probably, you know, when I met Tam, and she started pointing things out to me, I predicted where my brother was going to have his wedding.
• 12:27
  Lynn: And I forgotten that I'd had the dream and my brother calls and tells us the place and you know,
• 12:33
  Diane Black: Oh, wow,
• 12:34
  Lynn: Tam's like OMG, OMG, like what? You dream that, don't you remember? And I was like, nah I forgot. I forget. But yeah, she's she's done a lot to kind of, because when you know, you have a thing that you've always had, you know, doesn't impress you. Sometimes. It takes somebody on the outside to say, hold up, this is not normal.
• 12:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: When you have these dreams, do you write them down? So that way you can kind of go back in and reference them?
• 13:03
  Lynn: No, I've never written them down, but I can remember them. And then you know, usually I always, I talk to Tam about the next day. So she helps me to talk it out.
• 13:14
  Diane Black: So this is an opportunity for me to do a little plug. So Leyla just created a dream journal.
• 13:22
  Lynn: Oh, wow.
• 13:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: I didn't mean to like you know, plug the dream journal,
• 13:28
  Lynn: Look at that.
• 13:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: It was just a question. Like, do you because you said sometimes you might forget. So I was wondering if you do write them down. You know, you can go back and say, Oh, yeah, that is exactly what happened in my dream.
• 13:41
  Diane Black: Yeah. And so it's available on Amazon. And Trisha just ordered it. And so she brought it today to show us and it's really cute.
• 13:51
  Trisha Smith: We'll have to put the link on our, on our Instagram. So if you also need to jot down your dreams,
• 13:58
  Diane Black: I need something where I can just log away the details.
• 14:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right, right.
• 14:02
  Diane Black: And that's really what I I like about your dream diary.
• 14:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's simple.
• 14:07
  Diane Black: Simple, straightforward. It's got beautiful purple color with a crescent moon with the girls sitting on it swinging on the moon.
• 14:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Swinging on the moon.
• 14:17
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 14:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: So is there anything that happened in your life working in the hospital that like changes your way of thinking about things as far as spiritually, or kind of maybe put you on a different path in life?
• 14:31
  Lynn: Wow.
• 14:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Talking about getting deep now.
• 14:35
  Lynn: Yeah. Well, certainly, you know, seeing people of all ages who come to the end of their life, some know that they're headed that way. And some people it's a split second trauma that they never saw coming. Whether whatever circumstance or age the person is, it always makes you think about your own mortality.
• 14:57
  Lynn: You can't escape that, people tend to romanticize death in a lot of ways but you know when you are doing post mortem care on someone, which is a job that nurses do, post mortem care, there's nothing romantic about it, you know, that really makes you think about a lot of things or really does.
• 15:18
  Diane Black: I can't imagine.
• 15:20
  Trisha Smith: I have friends who are also nurses, who some of them have become very spiritual since becoming a nurse whereas others are more realists. You know, they're less spiritual, but more family oriented, they're more in the moment type people but definitely less spiritual because of their, of their job.
• 15:46
  Lynn: But in a way that, that presence is kind of its own spirituality.
• 15:51
  Trisha Smith: Absolutely.
• 15:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: So you believe in reincarnation or the afterlife?
• 15:56
  Lynn: I do. I do I definitely believe in the afterlife I don't believe that this is that what that means after that? I'm not sure but I do believe that the the soul continues on.
• 16:09
  Lynn: Reincarnation, I don't know I'm certainly open to the idea that could be possible but I don't 100% know one way or the other.
• 16:17
  Lynn: I'm not a supporter or skeptic of that but I could totally see where it could totally be happening.
• 16:24
  Diane Black: So you're not in, you left the trauma, ICU trauma.
• 16:28
  Lynn: Yeah, it was just really intense and now,
• 16:31
  Diane Black: Seven years is a long time.
• 16:32
  Lynn: I work ing the recovery room, have people come out and after surgery.
• 16:36
  Diane Black: Which I would imagine is like night and day?
• 16:39
  Lynn: Yeah, but after trauma and before I had this job I did work for hospice.
• 16:44
  Diane Black: That's right, you did.
• 16:45
  Lynn: So I worked for people that were had a terminal condition.
• 16:48
  Diane Black: You, also I find it fascinating, now you don't have never worked for this department but you have some nursing friends, longtime nursing friends that actually, do they still work for the transplant team?
• 17:02
  Lynn: They no longer work for them.
• 17:04
  Diane Black: No,
• 17:04
  Lynn: But They did.
• 17:04
  Diane Black: So I'm very interested in that, like when an organ is, do we use the word harvest?
• 17:11
  Lynn: Yes. That's the word harvest, yes.
• 17:14
  Diane Black: So when a organ is harvested from the body and then it's put into ice, Icying pack right, and then it's rushed o
• 17:23
  Lynn: Right.
• 17:24
  Lynn: f to wherever it's got to o.
• 17:26
  Diane Black: Do you have any thoughts on that like regards to the spirit and removal of the organs?
• 17:33
  Lynn: Well, like I said before.
• 17:34
  Diane Black: Cause, energy like we're all energy right? So my my thinking is, does a part of that energy still exists within the heart or within the lung or within the organ? And then when it gets to the donor or the recipient Do you believe that a portion of that person's energy is also with that organ?
• 17:57
  Lynn: I do, I know there's nothing scientific about it.
• 18:00
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 18:00
  Lynn: But, I do. And I definitely would say that there's something about that life force of that beating heart, because I've been in the OR when they were harvesting organs and they do a lot of other things. Especially if they're donating the pancreas or digestive thing, when they finally get to that point where they're ready to do heart and lungs and they do cross clamp, which is they're clamping off the aorta and the heart, the heart and lungs are going to stop. I've been in there and at that moment is a person who's been legally dead for two days, it's a powerful moment when that heart stops. I think, I think each spirit chooses when they want to leave. I think some of them leave you know earlier and I think some of them wait until the body is dead. I think each spirit is unique and they do it the way they want to.
• 18:51
  Trisha Smith: Do you think that cause of death impacts that whole process? If I knew, I was dying and donating my organs I feel like it's easier to let them go. Versus if you're in a traumatic, you know, accident or something that causes your death where you weren't expecting it or you didn't know. I feel like it'd be harder for your spirit to leave your body because you don't really know what's going on and I wonder if that impacts how your spirit is attached to your body in some way shape or form. Because you talked in the beginning about people who are waiting with their loved ones and waiting to go or if they're in a coma where their their body is gone or their brain is gone but their bodies still there. Is their spirit there has it left and I feel like that kind of pertains to like your your organs as well. If you're just being kept alive, you know, for your organs to be donated. But were you conscious? Were you aware that was going to happen beforehand? Was it so traumatic, you didn't know, because I would feel like my spirit wouldn't have left my body yet. Does that make sense?
• 20:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: Absolutely,
• 20:07
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. So I don't know, I bet there's got to be
• 20:11
  Lynn: If not, there should be.
• 20:12
  Lynn: some kind of research on that by now. Right?
• 20:17
  Trisha Smith: Should be, doesn't say you just hear stories about people who have received a transplant of some sort having some kind of residual effects of the former person, or the person that their their organ came from, just makes you wonder.
• 20:33
  Diane Black: There's a Hallmark movie about that. I can't remember the name right now.
• 20:40
  Trisha Smith: The heart. Did somebody get a heart?
• 20:42
  Diane Black: Yes,
• 20:43
  Trisha Smith: I have not seen it. I'm just guessing. It's Hallmark.
• 20:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's Hallmark.
• 20:47
  Diane Black: No, this one is based on actual true events and person.
• 20:51
  Trisha Smith: Really?
• 20:51
  Diane Black: Yes, and at the end, they show you the picture Is Ted going to actually wants you to admit that, that he knows of the couple. The woman that went through it, that was the recipient, and Ted and I watched it, this a while ago, and we've and like, we were like, wanting to make sure that it was really liked. I just put a picture up there. So we went to the Googles, and yes, there was all kinds of stories on this woman and the accident that she had and how she received her heart and how the heart belonged to the other woman. I will ask Ted because he'll be able to tell you like that. The names of Hallmark movies, like it's nobody's business, the names of all Hallmark Movies.
• 21:37
  Lynn: Ted's like, thanks for that.
• 21:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: I told you, we were gonna watch this together, but you can't say anything.
• 21:47
  Diane Black: Don't don't believe that. He's out here watching them when I'll come out. And he's got him on. He says, Well, they're good to fall asleep, too. Okay, yeah, sure. But my point mean is as this was actually based on a true, true events and true people yeah. And that's kind of what was happening to her is she met this guy and she was like, I feel like I know you. I feel like I know you.
• 22:12
  Trisha Smith: Right?
• 22:13
  Diane Black: And it was the fiance for the woman that died and that she received her heart.
• 22:18
  Trisha Smith: Well, it's not hallmark, but do you remember that movie, The Eye?
• 22:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: Is it a scary movie?
• 22:23
  Trisha Smith: It's a scary movie, and it used to be, it was
• 22:26
  Lynn: I've never seen it.
• 22:26
  Lynn: a Koran movie first and then it was remade with Jessica Alba.
• 22:30
  Trisha Smith: And she's, she's blind and she has her eyes transplanted and she starts seeing things and then she finds out that there's like a something's gonna happen something bad is gonna happen because she keeps seeing it with her new eyes. And then she becomes blind again and she's happy because you can see this crazy shit with her new eyes.
• 22:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's sounds familiar.
• 22:56
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 22:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: Is it an older movie?
• 22:58
  Trisha Smith: It's, I guess.
• 22:58
  Trisha Smith: It's like 10 years old I would say, but came out about same time as like, The Grudge, The Ring, you know when they had all those, that influx of scary
• 23:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: There's no feel good at the end.
• 23:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: Asian remakes. Yeah, it was called, The Eye, it was not a Hallmark movie by any means, but it was good.
• 23:22
  Trisha Smith: Except for the fact that you know she's happy again cuz she's blind.
• 23:26
  Lynn: How's that for seeing things.
• 23:26
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 23:32
  Trisha Smith: I don't know how I would feel about having somebody else's body, I mean if it's going to help you to continue on, that's great, but it still be weird being the recipient of somebody else's organ.
• 23:44
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 23:45
  Trisha Smith: Wouldn't that be the weirdest thing wondering are you carring around,
• 23:48
  Lynn: Please don't make me make a receiving the organ joke right now because trying to class it up on this show.
• 23:58
  Trisha Smith: That's usually, Leyla. She's a better match, for inappropriate jokes.
• 24:12
  Diane Black: Yes, for sure. I think there might be like you said, Trisha, there's a sense of gratitude, but then a sense of like, knowing that somebody died in order for you to receive that and there's a family out there grieving. Well, I'm going on living my life. I mean, that's gotta be like, very conflicting,
• 24:33
  Trisha Smith: Right. I mean, I read a lot of stories about families of donors who seek out recipients,
• 24:42
  Diane Black: Yes,
• 24:42
  Trisha Smith: Because they feel like their child or their loved one is living on through this other person. I just don't read lot about how the recipients feel about that.
• 24:53
  Diane Black: So I know. This is like a little bit of an offshoot. I find it interesting because, Trisha has had activity
• 24:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's her boo-lief, in her house that she lives in now and in her previous home.
• 25:03
  Diane Black: It is her boo-lief.
• 25:03
  Diane Black: Yes, but you've had, you've had And although she's not, she's go lots of reasons, logic reason of what had caused variou things. You. We all know what i is, but she has to try to com up with some, things in your house.
• 25:27
  Lynn: Yeah, I have had a couple things.
• 25:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: In your current house?
• 25:32
  Lynn: One night I was asleep, and there's a clock on the dresser across the room, and I just all of a sudden had this feeling that there was you know, this, you could feel that there was someone in the room, but then, you know, like, am I imagining this, I don't know.
• 25:46
  Lynn: And then I said, well, I mean you no harm. Please mean, me no harm whoever you are. I'm just all about love and light. And if that's not your thing, please leave. And all I saw was something go by, and it blocked out the light from the digital clock across the room as it went by. And then it just left the room. And I was like, okay.
• 26:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: Guess you weren't all love and light.
• 26:16
  Lynn: Don't know what that was.
• 26:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: GTFO
• 26:21
  Lynn: Glad it left. So yeah, and then there was another time where I was just standing at the dining room table shuffling papers, and all of a sudden, the light went out over my head, the dining room light and at the same moment that the light went out. Someone like with the back of their fingers, like flicked the back of my neck and made my hair flick up. I felt it. I turned around and looked it was like there was it wasn't like oh, there's a ghost touching me.
• 26:49
  Lynn: It was no someone's back there.
• 26:52
  Lynn: That's what it felt like. So yeah, and it was not anything scary. The first one going across and blocking out the light from the clock. It was a little scary just because it didn't know what it was, but it didn't seem to want to mess with me. And then you know, this second time it was like, Okay,
• 27:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Were the two incidences close to each other?
• 27:14
  Lynn: Months, a few months?
• 27:14
  Lynn: Yeah.
• 27:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Was the light turned off? Or was the bulb unscrewed?
• 27:20
  Lynn: No, it just flickered off and I felt somebody like flick and play with my neck and the back of my my back of my neck and my hair. And then the light come on again.
• 27:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well, that's odd.
• 27:35
  Diane Black: Didn't our psychic friend, Margo, tell you that your, she was sensing like you had an Aunt?
• 27:40
  Lynn: She said well, she didn't know that, that she was my aunt.
• 27:43
  Lynn: She said there was someone here at this table and interacted with somebody and she goes I'm getting the name Jessica. And that was my aunt that passed away. She didn't know that.
• 27:55
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 27:55
  Lynn: That's totally something that she would do is like, you know, play with the light and flip back in my hair.
• 28:01
  Diane Black: You think it was your Aunt?
• 28:03
  Lynn: Very playful. That's a good guess.
• 28:05
  Diane Black: Yeah, I know.
• 28:06
  Lynn: I can't really think of anybody that'd be more of a candidate.
• 28:09
  Diane Black: So we've done some stories. I just want your opinion. We've done a few stories on like, old hospitals, old asylums, you know that have been abandoned, or we're back from back in the day like for during the plague, yellow fever and times like that. And you watch a lot of the ghost shows on TV.
• 28:34
  Lynn: Yeah, I have.
• 28:35
  Diane Black: Investigation stuff. So what if, like you work in a hospital, even though it's still active, like so. But you have people dying on a regular basis. These, you know, shows that we watch, some of the articles or stories that we've done the features? What is your thought on, you know, those abandoned hospitals or institutions that are filled with spirits, lost souls? Do you have a thought or feeling because you said in your years you didn't really see anything?
• 29:07
  Diane Black: I know you're very busy when you're working in the ICU trauma unit. So but you didn't ever see like anything wandering the hall or a strange person that maybe was from a different time period. So you think people's spirits and souls can be trapped in abandoned buildings?
• 29:25
  Lynn: Definitely, definitely.
• 29:25
  Lynn: And you know, just because, you know, I didn't see him that doesn't mean that they're not there. Even though you don't see apparitions. When you're working in a hospital, there's times where you can really feel the energy shift. There's days where you come down to your floor, and you know, something bad's happening and you don't know what what's going on. But you know, something bad is happening. And you know, there's a lot of a lot of different kinds of energy and there's always a lot of chaos in a hospital and people on energy and spinning around. Spinning around and it's like it's there you can feel the energy so sometimes it doesn't even necessarily have to be about life and death. Sometimes it's just you know, all that energy and emotion compacted in one space. Yeah. So yeah, I think the energy is what can,
• 30:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: Imprint on a building itself.
• 30:19
  Lynn: Or get trapped. Yeah,
• 30:21
  Trisha Smith: And I think that's the difference too, between these abandoned hospitals and asylums and things like that, that we see on TV, is the fact that they're abandoned. When you go into a hospital. Now, whether it's new, a new building, or an older hospital, if it's still fully functioning, you've got so much activity and so much distraction and so much other energy going on around you that you don't have time or the opportunity to focus like they do when they go into these abandoned buildings or empty buildings.
• 30:58
  Lynn: It's true.
• 30:58
  Diane Black: Did you ever wonder or or worry about someone attaching themselves to you or when you leave they're like when you're working in a space that's filled with a lot of pain and heartache and trauma. Did you ever feel like you were carrying a lot of that energy with you when you left? And what would you do like would you do something to protect yourself before you'd go into work or cleanse after?
• 31:25
  Lynn: I never worried about a spirit attaching to me, per se, but I did worry about because I can be so empathetic to just take on all that pain and all that energy of and all the sadness and I did do it a few times and it's horrible.
• 31:43
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 31:44
  Lynn: It takes you weeks to recover and and the but you have to just kind of learn that kind of professional distancing that they say. The real trick is to still be empathetic without, you know, absorbing the energy. So it's more than just keeping a professional distance you have I, for me, I had to negotiate a place where I could be an empath, but not absorb,
• 32:07
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 32:07
  Lynn: That was a fine line.
• 32:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: With that being said, do you practice any self care cleansing rituals? Or do you before you go into work? Do you do anything to protect yourself to maybe kind of block some of the heavier energies that may, you may encounter during your shift?
• 32:28
  Lynn: Every day before I leave, it kind of started out kind of as a joke, because me and Tam would do this little prayer that I would get off work early. And but then over time, it kind of morphed into like a real prayer and about. Let me have a good day and let there not be any, you know, body too sick or not, nothing bad happens. And I would say that's definitely become part of my routine now where it kind of just started as a joke, oh, please let me get off early, it's kind of turned into a real thing where we pray for for my day and for the you know, the best outcomes for every body.
• 33:03
  Lynn: I've been known to sit in my car for about an hour after I pull in the driveway, as some people might call it meditation, I don't know. But I just kind of sit there in the car. And it's really quiet in the if you shut all the doors, in your in your car in your driveway, it's pretty quiet, as long as you can stand that it's, you know, not too hot. You know, and I just kind of spaced out, I guess it is kind of a form of meditation where I just kind of, you know, I just kind of stare and I just zoned out for about an hour and then I seem to be better. So,
• 33:40
  Diane Black: Maybe like just sitting with all that and processing it out. And hopefully releasing it.
• 33:46
  Lynn: Maybe on some subconscious level, I'm processing but,
• 33:51
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 33:51
  Lynn: Mostly I'm just kind of looking at trees. But yeah, it's hard. You know, some patients you develop an attachment or camaraderie with sometimes with their family. Sometimes it's the person you have something in common with them. So you relate to them. You want the best for your patients, but there's certain ones that just for some reason really get you in the heart and you have a special bond with them. And it's you know, even harder when things go bad. It's really hard.
• 34:27
  Diane Black: Thanks for all you do.
• 34:28
  Trisha Smith: Absolutely.
• 34:29
  Diane Black: That's not a job everybody can do. And
• 34:32
  Lynn: Yeah, Is there time for one more quick story?
• 34:34
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 34:35
  Lynn: Okay. This is a it's not about ghosts, but it's about everything coming around and life being amazing coincidences that aren't. So I met a wedding and this woman comes over to me and she says, are you Lynn and I'm like, Yes, I don't know. I don't recognize the woman and she said you worked in the trauma unit at so and so hospital? I'm like, yes, and so anyway she goes you know i'm i'm Q's wife, I'm not gonna say his names, but I'm Q's wife, I'm like no way, as she goes he's here. And this was a patient who was very sick, very debilitated he had a bad electrocution injury, and all along I kept saying because all nurses have opinions. This is ridiculous, this we're not going to save his legs because from the knee down his legs were just destroyed from the electricity and just skin and bones. They were doing graphs and you know all kinds of everything they could think of, harvesting muscle tissue from another part of the body and and I just kept saying, you know this is ridiculous, this is ridiculous.
• 35:49
  Lynn: Cut to the wedding he walks over to me on the dance floor,
• 35:53
  Trisha Smith: Oh wow.
• 35:54
  Lynn: With his own legs, the guy kept saying he's never gonna get better. He got better and I stood there and watched him and his wife dance a slow dance at that wedding. I think that was a big thing that changed me as a nurse and just that you know, after a certain point you see in a lot of things you kind of develop this professional skepticism. You get a little bit like oh, you know, those that foot is wasted, where they really just to just amputate and get it over with you know and it's like those moments like that where you see somebody and you're like wow, you know.
• 36:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: It was nice to be wrong.
• 36:31
  Lynn: He kept,
• 36:32
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 36:33
  Lynn: I was wrong, his legs did heal, so.
• 36:36
  Diane Black: Wow.
• 36:37
  Lynn: Made me think twice about my opinions, about things, you know.
• 36:40
  Diane Black: Yeah, that's a good thing to question your own thoughts?
• 36:43
  Lynn: Yep.
• 36:44
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 36:44
  Diane Black: Well, I've got that had a happy ending.
• 36:46
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 36:47
  Diane Black: So on that note, who wants to,
• 36:50
  Trisha Smith: Grab another cocktail?
• 36:51
  Diane Black: Yes.
• 36:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: I think Lynn is empty.
• 36:53
  Trisha Smith: Yes.
• 36:53
  Diane Black: She is empty.
• 36:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: Lynn, thank you so much for being here with us today and sharing your insights.
• 37:01
  Trisha Smith: I know we've been waiting a long time.
• 37:03
  Lynn: I hope I had some good stories.
• 37:04
  Trisha Smith: Ah, yeah, you did.
• 37:05
  Lynn: I didn't have anything with you know, necromancy or anything really, exciting. I'm sorry.
• 37:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know, we can come up with something for another episoden for you.
• 37:14
  Lynn: Different guest for a diffent day for necromancy.
• 37:20
  Trisha Smith: All right. Well, until next time, then,
• 37:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: cheers.
• 37:22
  Diane Black: Cheers.
• 37:23
  Trisha Smith: Cheers.
• 37:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hey, like what you hear.
• 37:25
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• 37:26
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• 37:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thanks for listening.
• 37:31
  Trisha Smith: Until next time,
• 37:32
  Diane Black: Late-a.