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84. How to Increase Your Energy as an Athlete · Eat More Carbs | A Period Recovery Podcast

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This is the Eat More Carbs podcast.
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Hello and welcome to the Eat More Carbs podcast.
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My name is Jenna Fischer and I'm here with my Co host Riley
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Beatty. This is a two-part series in
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which Riley and I will be talking with Doctor Aubrey
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Armento and Amanda McCarthy from the Sports Medicine Center at
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Children's Hospital in Colorado. We're going to be discussing
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Reds, or relative energy deficiency in sport, which
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includes topics like eating disorders and disordered eating.
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IF during this two-part series, you start to recognize some of
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the signs and symptoms that we're talking about in athletes,
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some you might be experiencing, we encourage you to reach out to
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Coaching if you have additional needs from a sports nutrition
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perspective. We hope you enjoy the series on
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Reds. So now let's jump into some of
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the nutrition for this. I would love to hear your
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opinions because we tell our athletes all the time this, but
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I would love to hear what you have to say.
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How long is it going to take for somebody to get out of Ritz, or
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how long is it going to take for some to get their period?
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Back it's such a great question. I get that question all the time
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and I don't have a great answer. It's very different depending on
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the athlete. It's very different on what the
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cause of the under fueling is. And so if it's strictly like a
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logistical under fueling, so they're exercising for four or
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five hours a day and they're also going to school and they
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also are in theater and all of the things that high school kids
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do, potentially we can plan and like change their their fueling
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patterns and get them to an adequate fueling status maybe
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within a month, depending on how underfueled they are, because
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we're going to step their nutrition up overtime, right?
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And then they have to maintain it.
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And so I think the hard part is if it's logistical, it's a
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little bit more straightforward. And it's like, yeah, if you are
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compliant and you do what I tell you to do, then we can we can
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probably resolve it within a month or two.
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And and then you have to continue to do that overtime.
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If it's something that's more disordered eating based and
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eating disorder diagnosis, there's the complexities of the
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mental health component with that.
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There's generally another provider working with us with
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that as well. And I would say those cases
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generally just to get to adequacy of fueling on average
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maybe take three to six months just to get to adequate fueling
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and maybe longer depending on the athlete.
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I'm thinking of one specific athlete that we share that we're
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still not there consistently, right.
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And it's been, it's been a long time.
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So it depends if we go back to that, if that answer, right, It
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really depends on the athlete. It depends on the situation,
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depends on the 'cause it depends on the family, how supportive
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the family is, how aggressive of an approach they want to take.
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Yeah, I would say. I would say that's generally
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what I see in my office, but I don't have a really good like
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straightforward answer. Yeah, I think a lot of it comes
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down to maintenance of adequate energy balance.
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So you have to maintain energy balance adequately in order for
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your body to reverse that negative adaptations that have
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been made in response to low energy availability.
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So what we know in the Triad literature more specifically is
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that when somebody's maintaining adequate energy balance, we can
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see hormonal disturbances and have normalized in anywhere
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between that three to six month period of time.
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But when it comes to restoring bone density or improvement in
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bone density, that can take years in a lot of cases.
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And again, is all about maintenance of energy status and
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maintenance of normal menstrual function in the female athlete.
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And so it's a, it's a long game. And I think that's a lot of
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where I find athletes having trouble really sticking to that
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treatment plan because it's not an immediate gratification
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situation, right? I mean, in some cases, I feel
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like we do see athletes who are like, Oh my God, feel so much
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better from an energy perspective and like, I'm doing
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better in my sport. And you know, they'll see some
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of those positive reinforcers a little bit sooner.
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But when it comes to getting your period back, when it comes
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to improvements and bone density and some of these things that
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just take longer from a physiologic perspective to
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improve, you really gotta stick to it for a long period of time.
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I think that's hard for a lot of athletes if they're not really
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seeing those results more quickly.
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Especially the beginning of getting refueled, it sucks.
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Like there is no other way to put it.
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Then it sucks. You feel like you're eating too
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much, you feel full, you feel gassy.
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It can be hard to poop because your GI tract has slowed down
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and it does not feel good. And everything in your body is
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saying this is not right. I am eating too much food.
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And it takes a really strong level of trust in the patient, I
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feel like, or the client to be able to trust the dietitian that
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they're doing the right thing for them.
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And it takes a lot of encouragement on our end to say,
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like, I promise you, this is going to pass and this is going
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to normalize and you're going to feel hungry and you're going to
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want to eat more than this. But there's a lot of a lot of
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surrendering that goes in that beginning of that process.
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And it is hard for athletes to do at the beginning a lot of
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times. Especially when you're not like
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really seeing a reward or you have like an exercise
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restriction as well, it can be just like so challenging.
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Yep. Totally not in the business of
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overnight success, no. Unfortunately, if I had a pill,
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I tell athletes, us all the time, I had a pill that would
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fix, I would give it to you for free.
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Like I will make your life easier, but I do not.
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And so we're going to do this the hard way.
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I think it is just so much harder than people realize.
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And especially with social media.
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And, you know, we're active on social media, so we like to say
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it's a good and a bad thing, but we've really simplified
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nutrition and it's this stuff is just so much more complicated.
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I get DMS all the time. They're like, how many calories
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should I eat to get my period back?
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And it's like, well, there's like so many other factors that
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go into this and there's, you know, so many deeper questions
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that we need to be asking and we need to be talking, talking
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about besides just a calorie now.
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Yeah, for sure. And I think when you add the
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layer of disordered eating or an eating disorder in the mix, I
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should take a step back and say I think another really important
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point to make is that having an eating disorder or disordered
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eating in Reds, they don't have to go together.
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You can have Reds without having an eating disorder or disordered
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eating. And I think there's a lot of
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stigma around all of it. But I have had some patients
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who've been resistant to the idea of having Reds because
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they're like, well, I don't have an, I don't have an eating
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disorder, right? Or I don't have a disordered
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relationship with food. And I think a lot of times that
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comes out overtime as you start to challenge an athlete with
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food and they start to have a lot of distress around the
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changes that you're recommending, right?
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And that's when we kind of dive into more of the psychological
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aspect of things. But I think when you do have
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those disordered eating behaviors or an eating disorder,
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that in and of itself just makes refueling even more challenging.
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Like everyone often deals with some of those physical
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consequences like Amanda was alluding to that are
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uncomfortable at the beginning. But if you're somebody who is
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just under fueled because of a lack of education or recognition
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of your nutrition needs and you're very willing to
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nutritionally restore and don't really have some of those more
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psychological challenges around making those changes.
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We'll often see people get to that positive energy or adequate
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energy balance sooner and they're able to maintain it more
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consistently than if we are working with an athlete who has
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disordered eating, anger and eating disorder.
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The road to get to that energy restored place is typically
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longer and windier and twistier and harder to stay on the road
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once you, you know, actually get to that point.
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And so that I think effects that journey a lot.
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I'm sure it depends from athlete to athlete, but there sounds
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like there's a lot of challenges for individuals to overcome.
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So where do you start? That's such a big question,
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Jenna, where do you start? Ask a lot of questions.
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By the time they get to me, usually they've seen doctor
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mentor or one of our sports vet physicians.
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And so I have a general idea of what the picture is that they've
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gotten. And so my role is really just to
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dig deeper and like see what is the actual picture of what's
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going on and try to give them more details and then figure out
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what are the barriers that are getting in the way of us
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adequately fueling. Is it logistics?
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Is it an education component? Is it availability of food?
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Is it an eating disorder? So like what, what's going on
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here? I find that each patient I see,
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I approach in a different way, just depending on, again, the
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family dynamic and the patient. And I feel like my role is a
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little, maybe a little bit more complex than others just because
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I am often educating both the family or the parent or the
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caregiver as well as the teen. And sometimes their nutrition
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views are all the same and sometimes they are not.
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And so I feel like that adds another layer of complexity.
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So I'm really just trying to figure out like where does
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everyone stand and what are your beliefs and what do you think
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that this should look like? How do you think you're doing
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right now? And let me show you what you're
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doing here and what I anticipate your needs to be.
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And then how do you feel about that?
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And then how can we start to build towards this more adequate
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fueling plan to address these concerns that we have about your
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under fueling in Reds? That's my approach.
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Yeah. And I think for me, you know, I
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start often with whatever sort of medical workup is indicated,
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what labs and imaging and that sort of thing are indicated
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based on each athlete's presentation.
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And then then I also am a very big proponent of this team
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approach to the athlete. So Amanda and I are very lucky
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and that we work super closely together.
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We share clinic space once a week.
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We see athletes often back-to-back in our clinics
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together. So we can have a conversation
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about this is what I'm seeing or worried about, this is what I'm
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seeing or worried about. OK, let's make a cohesive plan
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together. And then also bringing in that
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mental health resource we're indicated.
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So we work with a lot of community therapist,
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coordinating meetings amongst all the team members, making
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sure everybody is on the same page as far as the treatment
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plan goes and communication of that to athletes and families if
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they're a younger athlete. And so I think a lot of the
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initial steps are also sort of assembling the team and setting
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up these modes of communication so that we can have that sort of
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streamlined comprehensive care. So just like Reds can present so
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differently between athletes, the for each athlete is also
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super individualized. Yeah, I think so.
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I mean, though, what would you say do an athlete or I guess
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what are your recommendations for an athlete who maybe?
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Is meeting with a. Sports Dietitian has already
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gone to sports medicine and is looking for ways to increase
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their energy availability. What are like 3 maybe tips that
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you have from a nutritional perspective?
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Yeah, so #1 making sure they're eating consistently throughout
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the day, which a lot of our team athletes are not doing.
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So are you eating at minimum 3 meals?
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Are you eating one to three snacks depending where your
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season is at? Making sure that we're getting
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consistent meals in. So for most of my young
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athletes, that ends up being they need to eat every two to
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3:00-ish hours to meet their energy needs, especially while
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they're in season. So I would say consistency of
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fueling #1 #2 I use the athletes plate, the US OPC visual a lot.
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And so showing them like what that athletes plate looks like.
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And do you have half a plate of your grain and your carbohydrate
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foods? Do you have a full plate of
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food? Are you getting fat with your
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meal or does your plate look like a big salad with some
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chicken on it, which you know, sounds delicious, but as by
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number means an adequate meal for a highly active teenager.
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So making sure we're getting all food groups.
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So I like to focus on 4 items at the meal, protein, grain, fat
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and color. So we can get those four things
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in. And color, quite frankly, is
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optional because you're going out to eat and you don't have
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it. Then you can get an adequate
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meal with protein, grain and fat.
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So that would be tip #2 tip #3 I would say is fueling around
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workouts. And again, we see this a lot as
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well where kids will go to school all day.
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They might eat lunch, they may just have a peanut butter and
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Jelly sandwich for lunch and then they don't eat anything and
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then they go to practice and then they come home and have
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dinner and they may backload, OK, but they're going, you know,
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six to seven hours without food during the middle of the day.
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So again, that's kind of the consistency piece, but making
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sure that they're getting something both before and after
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practice. And if they don't feel super
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hungry after practice, that's one of my non negotiables.
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It's like, I don't really care if you don't feel hungry after
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practice. Like I need you to get some type
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of nutrition into your body. And so if that means you'll
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drink a glass of chocolate milk or, or a Gatorade or something,
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we have to get something into your body after practice so that
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we can start the refueling process.
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And quite frankly, when we do get those liquids into their
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body, usually they're just hot and their stomach shut down from
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their their activity, right? So once we get them hydrated and
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cooled off, then their appetite returns pretty quickly.
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So yeah, I would say those would be my top three to get athletes
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adequately fueled. As far as like steps from
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education for athletes, coaches, parents, other healthcare
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providers for what needs to be done in order to expand the
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awareness about in this population.
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I think we're talking a lot more about it.
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So I'm a big runner. I follow running and really into
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that running world. And Amanda and I actually have a
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running athlete clinic that we do together.
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And I would say I've been very happy to see from the
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professional athletes in running in particular, a lot more talk
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around Reds and athletes sharing their experiences with Reds and
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with eating disorders and disordered eating.
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And I think there's a lot of value and those professional
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athletes, especially those that have really strong social media
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followings to use their platform to increase awareness of Reds.
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And I think overall, there's been a movement towards
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optimizing like female athlete health and shining a light more
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on the female athlete in general.
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So I think that's a great step to take.
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And then I think more kind of on the ground level, like Amanda
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and I do a lot of combined educational talks to cross
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country and track teams because of our running athlete clinic.
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But you know, that's a great way.
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I mean that we recently had a school, I think there were like
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70 to 80, you know, it's a large school, 70 to 80 cross country
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track athletes that came to listen to us and they'll often
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bring parents and coaches as well.
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So for us just kind of in our local area, trying to get out to
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schools and spreading awareness about Reds and then Amanda's
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amazing and providing these like practical nutrition strategies
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that I think are easily digestible and can be taken home
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and implemented with our young athletes.
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I think as people all over the country and the world in general
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start to do that type of educational outreach, I do think
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we'll continue to sort of see this shift overtime where it's
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no longer normal to lose your period if you're training at a
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high level. You know, Amanda and I are also
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will do more like healthcare professional education on and
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things to to lookout for and how to refer and that sort of thing
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to optimize the care and access to care for athletes too.
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Yeah, I was gonna mention that piece.
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I think we within the University of Colorado, we have a
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fellowship and a residency program and within sports
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medicine we do a nutrition based lecture like what is helpful for
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the team physician to know for sports nutrition specifically.
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And I think that's helpful. But quite frankly, like that
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reaches like this many people, right?
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So sports are great at doing the education and I see sports
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statisticians all over the country like you guys who are
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out there and like doing the thing and fighting
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misinformation and like continue to do that.
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And I think that's necessary. But I think if on more of a
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systemic level, we could get more of this education put in
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for healthcare providers. Not that they don't already have
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a very big program to go through, but if we could just
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like give some Nuggets that are not just weight based and more
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like fueling based for those providers, I think that makes it
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easier for them to see it and then to refer to a professional
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that can then help that person. A lot of these things that we've
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kind of talked about might scare some athletes as far as like the
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long term implications, what that means for their athletic
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career, what that means for their overall health.
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Are there ways and what would those ways be from a
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preventative side of things? Like what do you recommend to
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like prevent Reds onset for an athlete that just like maybe
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wants to make sure that they're avoiding any type of a diagnosis
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in the future? Yeah.
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I mean, I think a general blanket recommendation is the
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idea of resisting diets or diet trends, right?
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I feel like there are so many out there and we're sort of
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battling all of the misinformation and everything
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that's read on social media, especially in that young athlete
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population. And so like Amanda says, you
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have a line, Amanda. I can't remember what it.
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What a lot of one liners. You're gonna have to be more
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specific. You're gonna.
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Have a great one liner about how like the best diet for a young
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athlete is like no specific diet at all.
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Like let's just not even jump into like using necessarily the
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term diet, but more so, you know, looking at food in a
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positive way to enhance sports performance.
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So I think just trying to sort of combat societal pressures of
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falling into these diet trap is sort of easier rule of thumb to
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apply to hopefully keep people from falling into that.
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Because I've seen so many athletes who just sort of
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innocently are like, I want to try whole 30 because you know,
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my friend is doing whole 30 or whatever.
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And then they end up in my office a year later, like with a
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clinical eating disorder, right? And obviously there's tons of
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factors that go into the development of an eating
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disorder, but it's not uncommon for us to hear this history of
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like, well, it all started when I decided I wanted to do XYZ
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diet. And so I think pushing back
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against that is one thing I would say.
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I do tell athletes often because I feel like there's this
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constant search for the healthiest diet that they can
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have as an athlete, right? I just want to be, I want to
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make sure I'm eating healthy things.
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And when they come into my office and they're so
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significantly underfueled, but they're eating a boatload of
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fruits and vegetables and they eat proteins and they eat some
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grains. You're like, oh, you're choosing
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all of these great Whole Foods, but you're eating 1200 calories
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a day and you need 3000 calories a day.
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So like they are shocked and usually quite upset when I say
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like, you're malnourished. You're choosing these great
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foods, but you have bad nutrition because you're not
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eating enough. And so it is actually more
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worthwhile for them to add in a scone, a bag of chips, you know,
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a slice of pizza, something that's high in calories to get
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their energy availability up while they have all of these
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other great food groups that are already available that is going
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to help them recover so much faster and be healthier for
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them. But there's such a stigma on
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adding in processed foods or, you know, all of the other
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things that we see on the Internet.
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So to Aubrey's point, I think if people can stay away from the
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trends that are in your face 100% of the time, all of the
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time, that's always the best strategy.
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But then my very biased statement is if an athlete's
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worried about it, go see a sports dietitian.
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We know, we know what you need as an athlete.
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We know what you need as a human with without being an athlete.
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We can kind of take all of those factors into play.
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We can talk through kind of what you're thinking and what you're
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wanting to do and talking through if that's the best
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decision for you. I would say largely our people
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don't judge. We just really like food and
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that's why we got into this field.
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There's obviously exceptions to that, but I think generally like
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we want people to feel well and to fuel their bodies well and to
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love what they're eating. And so that's really what our
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main goal is as dietitians. Yeah, I think just moving away
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from this very common practice of demonizing food and
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categorizing food as good food or bad food or healthy food or
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unhealthy food, and just like it's food, let's just call it
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food. And then how can we use food to
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the best of our ability to optimize health and performance
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as an athlete? One of the sports psychologists
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that we work with, instead of calling foods good or bad, she
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calls them either party. Foods or power foods to her kids
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when she was like doing some like food education with her
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young children and kind of how to message food in a way that
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doesn't demonize it. I love that I'm like power and
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party. They're both good, but like they
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serve different purposes at different times.
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I think also I really support this idea of moving away from
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like demonizing food or calling things good or bad, healthy,
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unhealthy, because I think that's sort of where all of this
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dieting starts is like the avoidance of certain types of
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food or making certain foods bad and then associating guilt or
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shame with eating those types of foods.
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I want to echo that because one of the biggest shocks I think
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for the athletes when they come like work with a sports
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dietitian is the foods that we're often recommending are not
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foods that you would think a dietitian would recommend.
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I always joke. I'm like, did you think that
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you're going to come see me and I was going to tell you to eat
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goldfish? Like probably not, but I'm
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recommending that to everybody because again, like everything
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has its purpose. And a lot of the time athletes
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are not fueling properly because they're not eating some of these
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energy rich foods. And it's impossible to meet your
21:08
energy needs without them. It is absolutely impossible,
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yes. People come in like, I'm eating
21:13
all this food and I'm like. Are you our red flag?
21:16
We joke about this a lot in our clinic as when a parent comes
21:19
in, they're like, they eat really healthy.
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And we're like, that's probably a red flag if we're thinking
21:24
that we're eating really healthy.
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Because oftentimes that means I'm eating a lot of Whole Foods
21:29
or a lot of vegetables or a lot of fruits, which yes, very
21:32
nutrient dense foods, not very energy dense foods.
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And we need both of those things and I think.
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It's hard because kind of going back to what we talked about
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earlier, not all of the stuff is intentional.
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A lot of times like athletes want the healthiest diet so that
21:43
they can perform the best. And unfortunately there's just
21:46
so much mis education out there when it comes to fueling as an
21:49
athlete, but they end up, you know, falling into under fueling
21:52
their Reds. So we ask these four questions
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to everybody who comes onto the podcast.
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And the first question is, because this is a more carbs
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podcast, we have to know what your favorite carbohydrate is.
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I would say it changes, but currently my favorite
22:06
carbohydrate is white rice. I've been eating a lot of rice
22:09
lately, but I'm also a big pasta fan so.
22:12
I have to say, these were the hardest questions for me.
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I was like, oh man, what is my favorite carb?
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I love cars. I settled on bread and basically
22:21
anything made with flour because if I'm hungry and I can't find
22:25
anything in the house, I will always go for a slice of bread
22:27
and butter. And maybe that's from my
22:28
childhood, but like man, a good slice of bread is is totally my
22:31
jam. Oh, do you like make your own
22:33
bread or do you like, do you have a specific?
22:35
Brand I have made my own bread, which I love, but I also have
22:39
two young children and so that that is not happening right now.
22:42
I really love the Bavarian bakery brand.
22:45
I don't know if you've heard of that.
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I don't know. I'm like advertising for them.
22:49
They should they can pay me for this if they they have a
22:53
delicious bread. I love sourdough of all like
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shapes and sizes. I love sourdough bread.
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But yeah, I'm, I'm brioche like bagels like I'm really not
23:03
picky. I will.
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If it's got flour in it, I'm gonna eat it.
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And really like it. I think bread or bagels are as
23:08
leading as our favorite carbohydrate.
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I'd have to go back and tally it up.
23:11
Nice. Have you ever tried to make your
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own sourdough? Or do you stick with other kinds
23:15
of bread when you're making? No, I am a failure.
23:18
I had a friend who gave me some sourdough starter and I have
23:21
really good intentions and then I just never, I never did it.
23:24
It was too intimidating for me. Have you done it?
23:26
I've never done it because I've heard that it's like a full time
23:29
job and I don't know if I'm ready for that so.
23:32
I'm just going to. Continue to buy it from the
23:33
store and be OK. Yeah, totally.
23:35
Same. Our next question is what is
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your favorite pre workout fuel? I am a toast and peanut butter
23:42
kind of gal. I also like like toaster waffles
23:46
and peanut butter as well. Kind of depends.
23:48
But lately, Speaking of sourdough, I've been on a big
23:50
sourdough bread kick. Toast and peanut butter is my
23:53
usual go to. I am usually not the most
23:56
organized before my workouts at this point in my life, thus the
23:59
little people living in my home. And so usually I have like
24:03
bananas that are available or like dates I love because I can
24:06
grab a handful of those and those feel great.
24:08
Or like some type of like granola oatmeal base to bar.
24:12
I love those too. What about after you workout?
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What's your favorite post workout feel?
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I would say oftentimes the way I time my workouts, I'm having a
24:19
meal right after. But if I'm not having a meal, I
24:24
like yogurt with berries and granola.
24:26
And then I've also been doing lately a glass of orange juice
24:30
and two hard boiled eggs. I'm not sure where that came
24:32
from. I just started to do it because
24:34
my husband's been making lots of hard boiled eggs, so they're
24:36
like easy to grab. Like got my carbs, got my
24:39
protein check. So that's what I have been doing
24:42
lately. Yeah, if I'm doing a snack,
24:45
chocolate milk is like, the most refreshing thing after a
24:48
workout. So I've gotten back into that.
24:50
It's been a while, but I've gotten back into that.
24:52
But if I'm having a meal, same with Aubrey, like there's
24:55
nothing better than, like, rice with soy sauce and fish.
24:58
So like, sushi rolls are my jam after a workout if I can get it.
25:02
I love that. Chocolate milk is definitely
25:04
winning for the post workout fuel question, there's no doubt.
25:07
So good. It's chocolate milk and a meal
25:10
that seems to be our. Talk to.
25:12
All right. Now this was always seems to be
25:13
the hardest question. So we're big shoe people.
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What is your favorite? Pair of kicks, OK.
25:18
If I'm doing a running shoe I would say my favorite pair.
25:24
I have a pair of the on running carbon plated shoes that I've
25:30
run my last couple marathons in and love them.
25:34
But if we're talking non running shoes, I love my Birkenstock
25:37
sandals. I basically live in them so
25:40
that's probably my other. I mean, I don't wear Birkenstock
25:44
sandals to work, but what I I'm not at work otherwise I am
25:48
wearing them. I would support you in that.
25:50
I'm happy to support like we'll figure that out.
25:52
I'm not. Sure, if that's like deemed
25:54
professional or like business professional wear to show up to
25:58
clinic in my birthday. To put a toe on them I think
26:01
which might be interesting. I have a pair of the Brooks
26:06
special edition like USA sneakers.
26:10
I think they're the Brooks launch brand.
26:12
So when she was white, 1 shoe is blue.
26:14
The soles are red on both of them, they're very loud, they
26:17
have stars all over them and I freaking love those things.
26:19
Like maybe I'll wear those to clinic.
26:21
That would be really fun. Thank you both so much for being
26:23
on this episode. I know that you've answered a
26:25
ton of questions that our listeners have.
26:27
We probably, like I said, have a billion more questions that we
26:29
could have asked you. Unfortunately, not all of our
26:32
listeners live in Colorado and have access to come and visit
26:34
you. But are there ways that they
26:35
could like find resources from Y'all or follow you on social
26:38
media? Anything that you're comfortable
26:40
sharing? So we have.
26:41
Our sports medicine center through Your Children's Hospital
26:44
Colorado has a web page. We do have some nutrition
26:47
resources on there. And then there's sports medicine
26:49
preventative resources for more targeted towards like the teen
26:52
and collegiate athlete. That's probably the best way.
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I don't have social media channels, That's probably.
26:57
What I would go to I only have a personal Instagram.
27:01
Amanda and I should probably up our social media game, but we
27:04
haven't. Thank you guys so much for being
27:06
on the podcast today. We so appreciate you guys
27:08
sharing all that you have shared.
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Yeah, thanks for having. US.
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Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the Eat More
27:14
Carbs podcast with Doctor Aubrey Armento and Amanda McCarthy.
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If you have questions for Riley and I, you can find us on
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