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Patriots Unfiltered 9/15: Thursday Practice Report, Steelers Preview, NFL Week 2 Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: patri Get's Unfiltered. No Fred today. Just this is Paul
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  Speaker 1: and Mike. This is the A one team A one.
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  Speaker 1: I like the original A team was, was it? We
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  Speaker 1: know who that was? But you're right there, Duce. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't really grilled Evan yet on the practice report too,
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  Speaker 1: Like what's the mood? I don't have mood on all
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  Speaker 1: twenty two? Yeah, have you been on the show, the
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  Speaker 1: whole show or did you come of You just came
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  Speaker 1: in from Oh you just came in. Good, so I
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  Speaker 1: didn't miss much? How disrespectful to us. Well, and before
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  Speaker 1: you came in, Fred, I know that you didn't really
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  Speaker 1: care about anything until practice was over. But because you
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  Speaker 1: said you didn't miss anything, and because Evan just got
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  Speaker 1: you like the rocket track, you took it me and
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  Speaker 1: Mike very very hurt. Mike brings up Robert evidently he said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, took note of it, seem in the owner's box.
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  Speaker 1: Was like, no, no, no, hat right little pencil born
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  Speaker 1: question mark? Question mark, question mark? If you want to
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  Speaker 1: tell me that they weren't a problem. I want to
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  Speaker 1: disagree with that. You want to tell me they weren't
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  Speaker 1: as big a problem as the offense tell you both.
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  Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All Right, welcome
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots Unfiltered. It's Thursday here at Gillette Stadium, and
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  Speaker 1: it's Deuce, it's Alex, it's Paul, it's myself, and it's
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  Speaker 1: Matt and the booth, and we're gonna be talking Patriots
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  Speaker 1: for the next two hours plus. We're gonna be doing
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  Speaker 1: our weekly picks, of which I had an historically bad week.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to apologize because evidently I didn't offer
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  Speaker 1: the instructions properly last week. I thought it went on
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  Speaker 1: said that we were trying to win the games, not
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  Speaker 1: not all um contestants in the contest. Yeah, I said,
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  Speaker 1: I've lost that NFL feeling week ones. I don't have it.
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  Speaker 1: You put new excuse, new methodology, you're installing a new methodology. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I changed all the terminology on myself before. I Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: sharp parlance. Yeah, I no excuses, just a bad week,
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  Speaker 1: all right. Anyway, Um, so what do we got? What
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  Speaker 1: do we got? We got the Steelers, So we're going
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  Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh on Sunday for a big game and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: diving a little more into Pittsburgh. Their offense is pretty
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  Speaker 1: bad too. It made me feel like I'm used to
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  Speaker 1: watching it, you know, not really having weapons and feeling like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have weapons, and it's like you
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  Speaker 1: just feel like Trabisky can't can't get it to them
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  Speaker 1: at all. I mean, you know, it was as much
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  Speaker 1: as it was a struggle with the Patriots, it was
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  Speaker 1: a struggle with the Steelers too, So maybe you have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more confidence that they'll find something with
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  Speaker 1: with those guys, they'd certainly have talented receiver, but so
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  Speaker 1: they look frustrated. So given that whoever wins this game,
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  Speaker 1: how many points do they need to score? Is it
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  Speaker 1: like it's twenty two? I think number that's the number
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  Speaker 1: of the like low twenties. I think I probably probably do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, every prediction I've seen mostly are in the seventeen, fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: sixteen thirteen. So if you get in the twenties, you
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  Speaker 1: win this game. Is that what we're saying? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think, oh, come on, that's I mean, pick a
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  Speaker 1: sixteen thirty out of the right now, I'll keep the
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  Speaker 1: suspense and let you know who I think is it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a Burman's score sixteen thirteen. Yeah, it's regular.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little bit. Yeah, you know. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: makes sense to me given what we saw last week
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  Speaker 1: from from both of these offenses. It was a great
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  Speaker 1: scoring college football a couple of weeks ago, Iowa won
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  Speaker 1: a game seven to three. Yeah, with a field goal
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  Speaker 1: and two safeties. Wow, that's great. Yeah, that's that's something
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  Speaker 1: sounds normal, but it's didn't really, they didn't really get
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  Speaker 1: their conventional methodology. Yep. So, Um, so we think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a low scoring game, do we? I think so?
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  Speaker 1: I think too. To point out Jawan Bentley missed practice
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  Speaker 1: yesterday with a toe injury. I think that's significant. We'll see, Um,
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  Speaker 1: Evan will stop in and say hello after practice. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see if he's able to get out there today. But
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was, you know, one of the bright
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  Speaker 1: spots on the defense. I think he's been one of
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  Speaker 1: the bright spots on the defense all kind of preseason.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that'd be a little bit of a blow. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't here right away when Evan came, but was
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  Speaker 1: yesterday A padded practice. Who I think so, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was that you didn't we didn't ask him the mood.
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  Speaker 1: I know, we didn't. We didn't have the problem. Mike
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  Speaker 1: had mentioned that we don't have Fred to get all
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  Speaker 1: of the because they had pads on. Alex was there. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that's a good thing because Adrian Phillips was out
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  Speaker 1: there and he was limited. Yeah, but the rim if
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  Speaker 1: if it was usually if it was if he was
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  Speaker 1: going to be out like padded practice, he wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: out there, you know, right, if it was a walk through,
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  Speaker 1: then everybody is usually there. But if you know, so,
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  Speaker 1: that's a good sign for Phillips. Definitely a good sign.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Bentley thing just took me
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  Speaker 1: by surprise. He didn't really see him get dinged at
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  Speaker 1: all during the during the game. So well, when they
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  Speaker 1: say so if it's that turf toe, those things can linger. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, speaking of like Marcus Cannon, who they just
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  Speaker 1: signed to the practice squad, was a victim of that
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  Speaker 1: at least at least once, maybe twice in his career,
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  Speaker 1: where you know, three or four games it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: a toe injury, get back. But those things can be tough. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, those things that linger hamstrings, those kind
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  Speaker 1: of early Yeah, bizarre. What exactly is turf toe? I've
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  Speaker 1: never actually I think it's torn ligament in your toe,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, I think, yeah, something like that. I
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  Speaker 1: think it bends back a certain way and tears the ligaments.
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  Speaker 1: It's very painful. It sounds a lot less worse than
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  Speaker 1: it actually probably is. Like turf toe. It sounds kind
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  Speaker 1: of right, Oh, get green stuff on my toe? No,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's on the turf. Yeah. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: they call it turf toe, but it's it's a like
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  Speaker 1: a Yeah, it's a very painful injury. Yeah. Well, hopefully
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  Speaker 1: it's not that. Maybe he just got stepped on and
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  Speaker 1: he's got a tonnail issue or something. Yeah, hangnail, hangnail.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds worse. Um all right, so we got that.
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  Speaker 1: We had our first UM practice participation report yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: um mac spoke at the podium yesterday. What did you
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  Speaker 1: think about what he was saying. Yeah, it sounds sounds
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  Speaker 1: like he's good to go for the most part. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much he's being limited as a
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  Speaker 1: full participant. As Paul kind of predicted, but there was
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  Speaker 1: one question I definitely waffled though. After Bill's press conference,
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  Speaker 1: I predicted it and then Bill was like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see it. I was like, oh, maybe I'm wrong, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, he was full participant, like it
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  Speaker 1: was nothing. There was one question that he was asked
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  Speaker 1: that It's not that the answer wasn't expected, but the
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  Speaker 1: way he answered it gave me optimism him. The question was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're talking about the mistakes that were made,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, are they fixable? And bang he was like, yes, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so of course he's gonna say that. But
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  Speaker 1: the way he said it, I was like, Okay, he
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  Speaker 1: honestly believes that they're fixable. He's not just saying that
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  Speaker 1: because I agree. I do, but I also would say, like,
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  Speaker 1: there's really not there's no such thing really as a
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  Speaker 1: non fixable. Well, if you're the quarterback and in your
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  Speaker 1: heart you believe I don't have guys around me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you might hesitate, you might you know, so on a
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  Speaker 1: podium in front of the media especially, I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't see it. There's one answer there, and it's yes, no,
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  Speaker 1: I know, But it's how it's how you say, we're
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  Speaker 1: going into week two of an NFL season, the problem
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  Speaker 1: is correctable. I don't really think no, no, no no, But
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  Speaker 1: if I don't see if you think your offensive line
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  Speaker 1: truly stinks, you're not gonna say you might know. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't say that. I said, of course, the answer he
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  Speaker 1: gave is the only answer. But it's how he said it.
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  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that's the only way he
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  Speaker 1: can say. I think there's other ways. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: telling you that he thinks that it's fixable. I think
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  Speaker 1: he believes it's fix I am a keen observer of
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  Speaker 1: the human condition. Okay, well, the last half hour of
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  Speaker 1: the show, we're gonna dispute not the human condition. That's
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  Speaker 1: not the human I I can detect the slightest hesitation,
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  Speaker 1: and there was nothing was like. But I what I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you is I wouldn't expect anybody to give a
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  Speaker 1: slight hesitation. I'm with Alex on this, like there's First
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  Speaker 1: of all, let me stay I don't think that he
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  Speaker 1: doubts that they can fix it. I think he's the
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  Speaker 1: quarter back of the team. I think he believes they
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  Speaker 1: can fix it. I think you're right I think he
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  Speaker 1: believes it can be fixed. I'm just telling you, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know an example of a guy who plays in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL who doesn't think they can have success. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna play this week, but I don't think I can
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  Speaker 1: do it. I don't think the guys around me you
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  Speaker 1: are good. Now he might eventually to and how they
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  Speaker 1: do after. I think he didn't think that they could win.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think he cut to a point where
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  Speaker 1: he was worried. Of course, of course he was worried.
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  Speaker 1: But they went twelve and four. But but do you
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  Speaker 1: think that he had that immediate He didn't think it
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  Speaker 1: was like the best team that he's had. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: you could detect that from his answers, right right, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't detect anything like that from that, because so this
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  Speaker 1: is better than that? Then No, I'm saying Mac is
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  Speaker 1: more sure than Tom was. I'm saying Mac is more
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  Speaker 1: confident than Tom was. I said, I think you're out
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  Speaker 1: of your mind. But that's okay. I feel like too,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's been given the same press conference for about
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  Speaker 1: a month and a half now at this point of like,
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  Speaker 1: you guys never really made able to do anything. You
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  Speaker 1: think you're gonna be able to. I mean, that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of been the gym. Yeah, and I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the next time we go out there, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: be better in I don't know. I was actually there,
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  Speaker 1: so I was I was actually here like working, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can say what you want. You know,
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  Speaker 1: at least I was present. It's a good point for
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  Speaker 1: that was so anyway, anyway, I figured that would get
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  Speaker 1: a rise out of everybody. Yeah, I do. I do
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  Speaker 1: agree with your premise. I think he believes that it's fixable.
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  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the issues seem at least
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  Speaker 1: like offensive wise, seem like disciplinary communication. So you hope
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  Speaker 1: that that's a quick answer that yeah we can. Now
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  Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna play the other side of the fence.
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  Speaker 1: We know that mistakes happened, you know, whether they're pre
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  Speaker 1: snap mistakes, turnovers, communication, Every team in every game makes them.
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  Speaker 1: This team right now is not good enough to overcome them.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem. Like the best team in the league
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  Speaker 1: has communication breakdowns, they have pre snap penalty, they have
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  Speaker 1: a turnover or two, but they overcome them. It's not
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  Speaker 1: a big deal for us right now. Every mistake is
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  Speaker 1: a big deal. That's the problem. It's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: I forget who said it on Tuesday, but one of
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  Speaker 1: you guys said that this isn't a team where like
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  Speaker 1: the personnel can make up for those mistakes, so you
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  Speaker 1: almost have to play perfectly just to be like even
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  Speaker 1: incompetitive and yeah, yeah, and you saw too, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the takeaways, you know, like they mean they didn't get
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  Speaker 1: any takeaways and that, I mean, that's all we've seen
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  Speaker 1: in the last couple of years that they need. That
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  Speaker 1: that needs to be the boost that they need to
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  Speaker 1: kind of help them produce some feel position or at
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  Speaker 1: the least point was it was it the Bengals that
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  Speaker 1: have five turnovers in the first half yet last week
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. Well, I don't know when they
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  Speaker 1: all they had five turnovers and they got sacked seven times,
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  Speaker 1: right and they and they still should have one thing,
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  Speaker 1: we're still in the game and overtime. Yeah, I mean again,
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's offense was I mean, like inside the ten yard line,
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  Speaker 1: like it's a grind, same thing. It's Cincinnati's defense is
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  Speaker 1: pretty good, um, but yeah, I mean, yeah, Pittsburgh doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have much offense. And the one thing that I'll say
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  Speaker 1: about the whole I think we all think low scoring,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I see Current has a thing up right
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  Speaker 1: now saying he thinks that Pittsburgh will be hard pressed
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  Speaker 1: to hit double double digits. I agree. Turnovers can always
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  Speaker 1: be the equalizer and all that stuff, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: for a for as bad as Pittsburgh's offense was, they
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  Speaker 1: get ended up with twenty whatever was it, twenty three points,
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  Speaker 1: you know when at the end of the day, because
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  Speaker 1: the other team turned the ball over five times. That's
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  Speaker 1: how they got most of their points. One of them
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  Speaker 1: was a pick six. It was like the second second
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  Speaker 1: play of the game, I think says nothing. So if
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots go out there and turn the ball over,
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  Speaker 1: then Pittsburgh is probably going to be in the mid
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  Speaker 1: twenties again, you know. And if conversely, if Pittsburgh does that,
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  Speaker 1: I think the Patriots will be up in the mid
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  Speaker 1: twenties or higher. That's always the equalizer. Yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Why I'm leaning Pittsburgh by a slight
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  Speaker 1: edge is just I think their defense is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more just rub I mean, the production last week
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  Speaker 1: speaks for itself, but I think the Patriots defense will
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  Speaker 1: have to outproduce the Pittsburgh defens on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of feel position, stop, are you surprised that
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots are, you know, as far as the Sharp's
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  Speaker 1: concern favorite in this game, I'm definitely surprised. But I
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  Speaker 1: mean I do feel because of just T J. Watts out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think they looked at both offenses it
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  Speaker 1: felt like they stunk. But I still don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't get it. I mean, I think Fittsburgh should.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a little because you get three.
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  Speaker 1: So really the Patriots are four and a half point favorites. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I accurately predicted that that line would come up today
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  Speaker 1: joining this show. Um, but I but I agree with you, friend,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of an odd line,
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  Speaker 1: like so, but why, like what do they know? What
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  Speaker 1: the sharps? What do they know? Do they? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to bring up the sharps of the
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: gambling Patriots history idea? Is that what it's called? I've editor,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be the getting getting
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  Speaker 1: What are the sharp snow ports? Like? At one point
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  Speaker 1: last week, I think she was stressing so much about
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  Speaker 1: her picks and Fred goes, you know, there's no ramifications.
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  Speaker 1: You got them wrong. It's just maybe some guys at
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  Speaker 1: home listening to us Bett and his kid's college tuition
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  Speaker 1: on her picks. Yeah, I hope, but I felt for
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  Speaker 1: it because I think she was really like she probably
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  Speaker 1: agonizing over every single game she I mean everybody, But Fred, seriously,
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  Speaker 1: I don't ever remember in the history of our contest
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  Speaker 1: a week that you've had. I know I had. I'll
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  Speaker 1: just I'll get lay that out there for the teams
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  Speaker 1: for later on. When I go bad, I go bad
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  Speaker 1: it tweek one, tweek one. It's a process. I'm in
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  Speaker 1: a holeville now, I can tell you that much. Anyway. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised. Point and a half is what I'm hearing,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But I think, I mean, I think everybody's
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  Speaker 1: kind of in the same ballpark of teens to teens.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't seen anybody out of the teens
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  Speaker 1: and in a close game, but you just would think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, two similar teams, right, right. But to Fred's point,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that they view these similar teams on
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  Speaker 1: the same exact level. I think in Vegas anyway, it's
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  Speaker 1: viewed that the Patriots are above Yeah. So we'll see
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  Speaker 1: it's weird. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you
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  Speaker 1: look at that Pittsburgh defense and not pick them too well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, I guess they see think that
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  Speaker 1: there's some hope with the Patriots offense and there's none
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  Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh offense. Maybe I don't know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about it too, Like, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think like the game plans against Pittsburgh during the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Old Dynasty years were always so interesting to me
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  Speaker 1: of you know, a lot of trying to use their
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  Speaker 1: aggression against them, trying you know, um, misdirections stuff. The
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver passed to Moss in Oh seven that was
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Smith, was that when they went after him the
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  Speaker 1: branch catching in the Old four championship, Like they just
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  Speaker 1: they always seem to kind of know how a bead
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  Speaker 1: for what this defense does. And I'm just I'll be
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  Speaker 1: interested to see are they still able to do those things?
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  Speaker 1: Everything we talked about yesterday with you know, there's not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of creativity. It feels like coming up the
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  Speaker 1: play call, are those things going to exist? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Are there is there going to be little trick plays,
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  Speaker 1: a little you know misdirection, more screen passes, trying to
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  Speaker 1: get them coming up field and get behind them, those
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  Speaker 1: kind of things. I just you know, we became so
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  Speaker 1: familiar with how they've attacked this defense in the past.
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  Speaker 1: What does it look like now after all the flak
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  Speaker 1: that they've taken for their offensive game plan last week
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  Speaker 1: that you know, lacked imagination and diversity and all those things.
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  Speaker 1: I remember last year or even the year before, we
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  Speaker 1: criticize the people, Well, they have to use trick plays
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: in order to you know, get momentum. They can't just
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: do it, you know, they're not good enough. Yeah, now
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: they don't have those. I mean, that was Pittsburgh last
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: week too, which had like a double reverse play. It
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: was one of their best. To Mike's point, though, like
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: we're talking about an end a round for Dion Branch
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: in the four AFC Championship game, in a game that
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: they had forty one points. You know, like the Oh
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: seven team didn't need trick plays just to break it
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: the all time record for points scored, right last year,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: That's how they scored their points. I know, Like, how
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: did the nineteen thirty three on them in the opener?
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like that. That was
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the night. Remember we were all like because there was
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: some trepidation about where are they going to find the offense? Yeah,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: and in nineteen and then all of a sudden everything
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: looked great. That night you had and they had just
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: signed Antonio Brown. You're like, we're gonna have him next week?
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Remember that week? Well that was then during the broadcast
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: we had we remember they what was the year we
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: had we had Gordon that we signed? We had Antonio Brown,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: right and whoever you know, Edelman, Gronk. We were like Thomas, Yeah,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: that was that was later. I don't think Josh Gordon
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown didn't overlap, did they didn't they? I mean,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Josh Gordon was here in nineteen. I lost track with
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: his suspensions, but I think I don't know if I
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: just thought it was eight I thought down the stretch
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: of the eighteen season was the year where you got
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: suspended and they didn't have him in the playoffs, but
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: maybe that they had him at some point in nineteen CTE.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of a lot of like suspensions
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and stuff too final he makes it hard to remember.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones so moment Rhode Island, says Turf toe was
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: simply a sprain of the toe. I received this injury
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: in my very first indoor soccer game. Uh. It still
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: bothers me to this day. The problem is that it
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: seems to heal and when I go to plate immediately
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: gets reaggravated. I have had knee injuries related to sports,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and I gotta say the toe injury maybe the most frustrating. Yeah.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: So Paul he was. He was on them, the Patriots
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. Then they, I guess
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: released him and he went to Seattle. But he had
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: three catches in that opener against Pittsburgh, two against Josh Gordon.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Did Josh Gordon did? Okay? Yeah, I don't remember him
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: being at the same time. Oh, I mean I was
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the whole reason why I Am sold a shirt that
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: just had the list of all the receivers they had.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And then I remember, like three days later, I think
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: they got rid of him, and then Edelman had to
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: send an email to everyone that bought the shirt. I
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: was like, I just remember we were in the names.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: We were in Detroit for preseason, I believe when it
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: came down and we were all like, oh, this offense,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: good luck. Wait the Antonio Brown thing, I think so, No,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: that was during that I remember that was the night
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: because that opener was the Sunday night game al Michaels
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: was talking about and Tom Brady is, you know, all excited.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: He's had me going to have him at his house.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: That all came about on the Saturday before the like
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the Sunday night opener or whatever it was. Um was
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it a Thursday night game at the time. Maybe, I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't remember they raised the raised the banner,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: so I don't remember that the time frame, but I
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: remember Al Michael specifically talking about Antonio Brown coming, and
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I remember finding out about it on a Saturday because
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I was golfing and it was probably like my last Yeah,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh great, I gotta deal with this
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in every hole and and I remember it was probably
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: gonna be my last golfing round of the year, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: now I got to deal with this guy. But you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: fortunately I didn't have to deal with him too much longer. No,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: that was a quick one. Yeah. I also remember when
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: we released him, we were all up in the bullpen
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and all that, like just like what happened? That's doness.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: That was a sigh of relief. For me, I just
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: do not there at the same time not have to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: deal with that soap opera. Yeah, because he had he
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: had gone like nuclear at that point. I think on
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: every he had gone nuclear before he got here. Remember
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: how he thank you, Alex. Those insane just my favorite
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: stories were just the bulleted lists of all the drama
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that took place between him, like freezing, what was the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: thing his feet? And he just showed the way he
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: left Pittsburgh, the way he left the Raiders and then
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and and that's why we have believe we took him.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: That's why we have more respect from Mike Tomlin because
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: this prop stuff was probably going on there and he
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: kept it Underlin look really good. Yeah, he kept it
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: on the control. You know. Oh my god. But what
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you know, that's he's another one that gets into the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: coffee book. You know, Antonio Brown, what could he he
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: agrees with put himself in numbers, but like he could
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: have been like one of the all times. He could
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: have been one of the all time greats if his
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: head was screwed on right, be like Jesus at Red Rocks, Yeah,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Jesus and the Beatles, all right, five five Pats five
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Night five five Pass five hundred web radio at Patriots
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: dot Com. We got our first Uh is it the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: first Amazon game tonight? I believe? So yeah, are you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: guys all set for that? I'm gonna watch I'm gonna
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: try to watch it. Um, I'm still uh you know me,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I don't like to like get locked into two you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm just still wondering, like how I change the
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: channel pause? Can't change the channel rights? Invention? A man?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Is that remote control for the TV? He believes that?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Was it better than the printing press or anything else
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you can talk to? Yeah? Oh yeah, those are great. Yeah,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: but isn't every remote like that? Now? When you get
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: to Amazon Prime, that's just an I well it's I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: think it's an Exfinity thing. Oh um, so you're you're young, Alex.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So how do I watch the game? Rant? Coming? No? No,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: not a rant. I don't I can't figure it out
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: this thing out? How do I? I can't change channels
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: right now, like I'm stuck. I'm gonna watch it. I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: have to take a long time, right, like during commercial breaks,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you can't flip through the channels, right you're saying, no,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you're entering a third party app. Right, that's there is
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: no way around that. Right, I'm not just doing it wrong.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: There's no way around that. Okay. You know, I wish
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: they had the thing like you have on your iPhone
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: now where you can still watch a video and you
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: can scroll social media in the video will just kind
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of staying. You can just flick it around and it'll
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: stay playing the whole time. That's one of my favorite
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: developments of the iPhone recently. Yeah, I wish I could
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: sort of split it and then you know, when the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: commercials over and now I'm gonna go back to the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: game side screen. You need a second screen ahead, watch
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: it on the laptop again. Yeah. Or you could be
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: like one of the frat boys that you walk into
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: like a college kids apartment and they have three televisions
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: in the living room. Is that what they do now? Yeah?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It is, oh boys, and then laptops pause. Living room
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: turns into like NASA control. You know he's got it's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like a sports book. You gonna get me one of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: those green visors. I apologize in advance for Beth to
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: planting planning that. Oh no, she'd she'd be all, she'd
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: be down for that. She turned her living room into
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: like three televisions since she does what I Teleson, Oh yeah,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I'll bet reverse that. Just kidding me, all right? Um,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So anything else before we turn it over to the listeners. Uh,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: looking forward to that game, looking forward to talking about
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it this afternoon. It's a good AFC West matchup. How's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: this starting to play out? I'm interested? I mean, Kansas
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: City was ridiculous last week. Again. Yeah, I thought there
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: were some signs and you know, probably probably talk a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: little bit about the league and large later, but I
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: thought there was some Charger like signs again. Like, I
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: thought they played a good game. I thought Herbert looked
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: great again, and then somehow the end of the game
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: they're having to come up with a stop to save
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the win. I thought they were the better team for
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the vast majority of the game, but they couldn't put
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: it away. Yeah, and Keenan Allen getting a hamstring injury,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: what's that he's part for the course with them? I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: just I think that they're really good. I think the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Chargers are really good. But there's something missing. And I
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: hope that it's not something about Herbert that he's missing,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Like he's just like one of those stat compilers, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: not like the ultimate winner, because he wasn't really a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: great winner at Oregon either. I remember watching the game
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: when when he first when he first came on my
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: radar as a as a top pick. No. I remember
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: watching a game early in the year. I think it
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: was the last year he was at Oregon against Auburn,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and Oregon was so much better than Auburn. They just
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: they were controlling the game throughout, and sure enough, it
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: stayed close enough and they lost it at the end.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And I hope that's not one of these things that
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: he just kind of has, like he doesn't put it
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: away for whatever reason. I am a little bit higher
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: on the coach read that I think most. I think
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: he makes some moves like a lot of guys do
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that that are strange. You know, his propensity to go
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: for every fourth down. I don't think that's wise. But
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I think he knows what he's doing in terms of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: putting together a team and x's and nose and stuff
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: like that. I think the analytics get away from a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: little bit sometimes, But they should have won that game
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: going away. The other day against the Raiders, and the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Raiders ended up getting the three and l got the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: ball back and they had a chance. Now, give Khalil
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: mack all the credit. He destroyed that last drive almost
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: single handedly. Yeah, I love. I mean that's just all
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the highlights from Herbert too. I mean just there's always
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: kicking around Twitter highlights of throws that he made, the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: throw that he made, like down to the right side,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: down the scene. We saw that one live on Red
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Zone during the postgame show, and like me and Mike,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, we weren't all that enraptured
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: with what we were talking about at the time, but
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: that throw was just sick, yeah, and just so effortless.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, did Josh Allen a few
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: years to really get to the next level. I don't think.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think Herbert has that like bullish quality of
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: as a runner, Like where at Josh Allen is that
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: beast running with the ball in his hands. But as
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: far as size and ability to deliver it, man, I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: think he's he's right there with with Josh Allen. All Right,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: let's get to the phones. Five five pass five hundred
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: is the ace ticket outline. We'll start with Mike and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. What's up? Mike. Hey, how y'all doing great
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: over here? Hey Mike here? Can I make up a jin? Sure?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Make a comment? Yeah? Okay. Can you know how you
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: have that rich Stone promo adjust to every every week? Yeah?
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Speaking of that now, yeah, yeah I do. Yeah. It
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be one of you guys. Does it
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: have to be the talent that does it? They want
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to they want a live read. Yeah that's there. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: guess live reads more effective than than you know, uh
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: tape commercials. No, No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: saying so like you hold some sort of competition amongst
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the callers and the person that says the best uh
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: promo tieing doing their call talking about the game, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: then maybe at the end of the month or whatever,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: maybe you guys get them like a pro shop I'll
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: pro shop Boucher or something like that. Okay, what does
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that have to do with Bridge Stone, right, it's a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: competent promo to Bridgetont Tire is the promo people that
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you have to do? Right? Why do they want a
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: fan to read their their ad to make it fun? No,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: not to read it, just to tie it into their
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: comment or whatever their observations are for the game. So
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: in other words, having a bridge stone contest, you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: sponsored by Bridgestone or something. Correct. So if somebody calls
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: them and said, oh, these guys were so tired they
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: look like a bus with Bridgetone tires roll over them
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: during the game or something like that, So who can
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: be the most clever month? Yeah, yeah, we'll look at it. Yeah,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: we work, we'll workshop that. Yeah, here's one. We landed
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: on the landed got back here, um from the Providence Airport.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I had a flat tire. You did, I did? Oh?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I had I the air Sorry, oh yeah, thanks somebody
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: slash So yeah, I wish I had some bridge stones.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I had to go put air in
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: my tire when I left here. Oh my god, that's
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: why I didn't wait around for my suitcase. So when
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I was talking to you, you knew that you had
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: that flat time. I had not noticed yet. I turned
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: my car on, I saw the little little exclamation point
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: let it up on my dash and I was like,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that's that's just because of the weather. It got unseasonably
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that night. Yeah, we got a problem with get it fixed.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You know what's going on? Well, I put some air
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: in the tire. I need to make an appointment because
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: they're new tires and this is oh BS warranty. Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I just got a new one for free for Will,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: who was I think gone through six tires and about
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a year and a half. Yeah, just a week sitting
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: in the parking lot and I was at like two PSI. Oh,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it's not good. It's got around thirty three four two
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: twenty one whatever. It takes a ball bearings all right,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: So sorry, Mike, what's what's your foot YEP? No, My
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: comment is I think I mentioned this in the pastile
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: four but um as a Patriots fan since the year
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: before the exacted Blessed Soo um and all the ways
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to hear, there was always things you could count on.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: You know, you could always count on our QVP, either
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Blessed Soo or Brady to just give us a chance
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: at the very end. Um, you could count on our
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the way our team plays, that they will be disciplined,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: it'll be clean, they won't kill our kills themselves with
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: either penalties or dumb plays. And then you could always
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: rely on the coaching, meaning that we always had a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you know, an advantage of coaching advantage. But giving the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: last game to us the season and giving this game,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: uh last week. I mean, all of those are off
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: of the table other than Patriots unsiltered. Don't we have
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: to hold onto Well that's the thing. I mean, but
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Like you know, here's the thing
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: about the you know, the discipline and being able to
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: count on them not killing themselves. Even with Brady, they
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: made mistakes. It's just it didn't matter. Now the mistakes matter,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you know. It seems like they're killing themselves because the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: mistakes do. But they made mistakes with Brady too. There
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: are unblocked rushers that creamed him from time to time.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: It happened, they hit Brady, had interceptions. We just you
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: have more than pre snap penalties, but they were able
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to overcome them. Yeah, and you had more than two
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: drives that you move the ball like, you would move
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the ball five, six, seven times and you would come
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: away with four or five scoring drives and you know,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and maybe you had one was not so it circuited
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: because of some pre snap penalties or whatever. But friends, right,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've made mistakes in the past. I think
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: they're probably more penalties that they have. Last game, they
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of penalties last game, but they
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: were all pre snap penalties, which are the ones that
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: they don't generally get. Yeah, they had another you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: too many men on the field on defense penalty. Yeah,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: which that happens seemingly once every other game. Outsides Hunter
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Henry with a false start. Yeah, there was three of them,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: but Cody Davis, Cody Cold. That was no should Soon
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: as I realized what you were talking about, the quality,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: not the quantity. Yeah, um, okay, let's go to now
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Melvin and Tennessee. Hey, Melvin, sweet kid, I want to
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: know what you're gonna He is fixating on this bet.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Melvin is what's on the line. He said that they
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: won't win more than six games like normal, and I said,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I'm over six games. So and Paul, you know me
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: so weird because I said that at least get seven.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So we've been arguing for an hour probably I was
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: vone over a game. I talked my people, well, yeah,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Paul knows me bear. I heard that
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: on the post game, So I was like, he knows
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: me very well. I've been calling himself ten plus years,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: but he knows that what we were gonna be arguing
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: about what are the states? So that's what the argument
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: is about. He didn't realize that obviously. That he owes
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: me one lunch already from he was wrong the cam year.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: But he's just gonna keep talking about whatever he whatever
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: he feels, and they're gonna lose all these games. I said,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I they'll got the Jets, the Bears stink. The Lions
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: kind of scamed me a little bit. Cleveland. There's teams
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: in there to day. I feel like they're gonna probably
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: be but it would be really good for them to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: start two and two. I picked the Stealers and the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Packers for them to be maybe the ones that I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: feel the most confident about. Um, But I don't know.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: It's a little when you taught me a long time ago, Paul,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: two craft teams, you take the home team. So that's
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: why that's why Fred and I are or like, have
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: our eyebrows raised over the spread. I mean, not that
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: it's an enormous spread or anything. I mean, they're basically
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: telling you it could go either way. But I'm a
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: little surprised with two teams that are struggling. You know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: for all the time Pittsburgh's offen stinks Pittsburgh's offen stinks
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and they just had a graphic up. Patriots are
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: twenty fifth, the Steals a twenty sixth and went in
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the first week. There was a difference of four yards.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Um so, Yeah, both of the offenses a stink. Why
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you know, why is the home team not getting the support?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So I think they know something? Yeah, it's it's it's
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: um so, So I think let's get that stop making.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I was about the curtain mistake, the mistakes of one
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: thing that bring that out of a lot of people
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: deal with. I mean it's really weird for but seeing
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: this type of team with so many constant dumb mistakes,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: So eliminate those, you might have a shot to beat
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you might, I mean basically gonna get that one of
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: last thing I want to say, why I get off
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: um it, I'm kind of I'm gonna be tuning into
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: this forty nine Ers and the Hawks thing. I like
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: for things to blow up, especially on not my team,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: just blow up on other teams. It was gonna be
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: pressing for the forty nine is to lose the Geno
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Smith and this whole tray Lance thing. I'm rooting for
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: them to lose so bad it's it's gonna be wonderfully
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: if they do. I just want them to. I think
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be it. It's an interesting thing. I'm folding
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco in my opinion. But all right, you
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: can't really call yourself a Patriots fan if you're not
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: rooting for something really bad to happen to somebody else.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: That's the essence of being a Patriots. One of the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: joys Gino Smith, he just hung on huh like crazy.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I don't believe he's still even in the league. He
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: was drafted to replace Mark Sanchez Like that was so
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: so remember seeing him play eight years between week one starts.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Eight years. Wow. I was like Van Winkly
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: wakes up and it's like wow. Twenty twenty two, Brian's
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: in Maine. Hey Brian, A good afternoon, lady in gentle
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Before I get to my Pittsburgh point, I wanted to
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: compliment Alexandra for the article she wrote about the Blue
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Hills Boys and Girls Club with one of the Patriots,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: David Gelboeah okay, yeah. It was a very good article,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and it prompted me to send off a small contribution
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: just building Bridges Alex. They're doing great work over there.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I was amazed by everything they're doing for the kids.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It's so cool. The head of recording studio at that
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Boys and Girls club like a whole music room with
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: drums and like they're kids like in the booth recording music.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I thought, we think it can be in there. Wonderful
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: he could record his next album available. Well, that's nice
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: of you to say that, Brian. Well, the two people
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that you've hired through this big bump, I think have
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: made it a smooth transition. I've been listening for a
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: couple of years and have insomnia, so I listened to
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: them over and over. I wanted to encourage my fellow
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: listeners to read some of the articles. It prompted me
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to go on, thank you, Do you read my articles
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to put yourself to sleep? That's why I took out
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: maybe it's unfiltered to go to sleep? Can I tell
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you don't twist my words. I'm just teasing. This is
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: one of the nicest calls we've gotten. We don't usually
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: get nice calls like this. Well, I appreciate I may
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: have missed this in the first minute, and they have,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: but I would think the Patriots would have a much
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: easier time to plan their offense with J. J. Watts out.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: That has to be a big thing to not have
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: to worry about. Dude, I was wondering what you think
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, I think it's it can't be ignored.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: It's the number one thing for any opposing offense would
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: be to worry about T. J. Watt playing Pittsburgh. And
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: then the numbers back it up. I mean, he's missed
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: periodic games over the years, and I think it's something
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: like four or five less quarterback pressures when he's not playing.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: They allow, on average about seventy or eighty more yards
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: when he's not playing. They don't win obviously as often
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: when he doesn't play. It's a it's a huge, huge
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: break for the page. He's not to have to worry
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: about the rating, big deal. I think I attended the
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: first Patriots game in nineteen sixty at Bracefield, and I've
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: been a fan since. So good team of bad. I'm
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: always rooting for them and never Tampa Day. Oh did
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you get Did Fred give you his tickets to that game?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Is that how you got there? I haven't been there
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: since it was Sullivan Stadium, right, I moved up to me.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks a lot, Bryan, appreciate the call.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian. Yeah, nice stuff, Alex, good job Alex.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: People raising money putting money on him. That more can
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you ask for? Yeah? And your checking Yeah right, Josh
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: is in Dallas. What's up everyone? Thanks for having me
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: on a long time, first time, all that good stuff.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I'll be quick and take it off line, but I
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: just wanted to get y'all thoughts on after seeing just
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the way that the offense performed this past weekend, it
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: was felt like a lot of the same to me
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: as last year, even with the addition of nikkiel Parker.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: As Paul likes to say, um, I just think we
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I know we've talked about a lot in the offseason,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: but to Fred's point that he always says, this offense
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: seems easy to defend, there's no true wide receiver one
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: that we've we've talked about all offseason and even last offseason.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to see if you guys thought that
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: they would go out and maybe splurge a little bit
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: and get a true wide receiver one. I just don't
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: feel like after watching some of the other games on Sundays.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: You know, Burrows got the ball with ninety seconds less.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Everyone in the stadium knows he's going to Jamar Chase,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and there's some some other players in the league dislike that.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: So um, I just feel like that's kind of the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: missing piece that we have because when we have the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: ball with I need ninety seconds, like like Burrowwood, I
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: didn't have any confidence that we'd be able to march
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: down the field and put some some points one on board.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll add is Freddy. I just
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: wanted to point out that the Rams didn't force the
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Bills to point last Thursday, So right, I think McVeigh
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and might be And yeah, even with Donald and of
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: course they did force four turnovers the secondary digress. Maybe
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: they're pretty good those Bills. All right, thanks Josh, appreciate it. Yeah,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I have d sent me that right after the game.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: He's like, the Bills didn't punt again. I go, they
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: did turn it over four times, though, I mean, there
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: is a difference. Didn't even Matt, Yeah, it didn't seem
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the same. It didn't. It didn't have to be honest,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: didn't it seem the same because all the turnovers just
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: seemed to like interrupt the drive right right, start over,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: just turn one over? What are you gonna do? Yeah?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: What was his questions? Wide Receiver one. I think next year,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they splurge and spend a
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: little money on a guy who was a true wr one.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: As they said, I need to know what happens the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: rest of the year with Thorty. Yeah, you know, if
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: he counts back and shows, you know that, you know
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of promise, then you know, maybe they don't
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: necessarily go that way. Yeah, I would be surprised if
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: they splurged at that spot. I think they could do
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: again what they did last year and get a couple
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: of the middle tier kind of guys. Yeah, I mean
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I I like that. I like that style. I mean,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I just are they gonna have a top ten pack?
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Are they gonna have to pick a receiver? I don't
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: think so. Are they gonna go splurge and grab somebody
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: else's in free agency? I mean, I just I just
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: don't see them doing that. I don't either, you know,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And I mean I look kind of I was looking
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit ahead of at Baltimore, and it feels
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: like they're kind of doing what we wanted in that
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: one game at a time, but drafting a lot of
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: those Day two receivers that we liked, you know, like
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Devin Duverney, like all these names that you're like, Oh,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: these guys kind of fast. James Prochet another one, you know,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: like these sometimes connected to the pat I think he
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: was Southern Mississippi. Perhaps. I do like Texas, no question.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: They probably have issues right now with their weaponry and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: all that um tight end base, but you know, I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: like that, and I don't know what we're gonna need
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: after the season, Like there's so many potential things I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: could be banging the table for we If we don't
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: get a tackle, Mac Jones ain't gonna make it to
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: your four, so that could be something consider as well.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Just looking over the shoulder here, there's a report evidently
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones will not be practicing today due to an illness.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Oh that's I see it on the banner here on
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the Sports Hub. But it's citing a report, so I'm
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: not sure who's reporting that. If it's Mike Reese or
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Jim McBride or Tom Curran, Phil Perry, those guys, I
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: would take it to the said. Mike Rees says, according
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: to the Patriots, so perhaps okay, notified, it's not a
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: reportead of time. Okay. So not practicing due to an
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: illness not good, not good at all because he looked
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: okay yesterday. Of that, I don't know how he Like
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: everyone there at practice, I was so but this is
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: like you like to get a field for things. So
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Mike and I were like on Twitter and it's like
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: everybody says, Max moving around great, you know, Evan comes in,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: he goes, but we didn't really get a chance to
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: see any anybody do anything. They didn't get a chance
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to move around. So we're like, now, I don't know what, Like,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: how was he moving right? Like everybody saw him out there,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: so they just assumed he was moving well. And Evan says,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: like they didn't really really well, whether it's a cold
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Not practicing before the game, it's not good. No,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you know, no, missing practice time is not not good.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: And it's a whole new world with illness. Oh what
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: are we doing? What are we doing? I got a
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: headache now, this is bothering me. I just hope it
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: is an illness if that's why he's not practicing and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: not the COVID. The back I know Evan back one day,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have gone up and give him back that kiss.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I guess that's Fritz, that's and stuff. So I mean,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: let's can we can we talk for a second though,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: because some people I've seen questions of like, well, Bailey's appy,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: well could you? I mean it'd be it would be
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Brian hoy right, we can put to bed Bailey's appy
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: getting getting a shot? Why? I think it would would
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: be the guy like that's not even a I mean
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Bailey's I mean, come on, what happened? People are asking?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like, fine, four fifteen, he would look fine,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: comes quick? What's poisoning sushi? Who knows? Well? I hope
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: that's it because that can get I don't know, everything
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: comes out. Actually that's great, you know bad. But if
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: it's like COVID or something else, that's not good. That's
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a tough one. Uh yeah, not good, Bob, What is
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: it not good? I mean he's at least missing today, right,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you know? I mean yeah, I mean it's alright today
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: then yesterday, because I think Wednesday is the more important day.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: But it's not like to Fred's point, it's not good,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I believe, ideal, just quick aside I think it is.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: It usually practice first second down, Wednesday's third day, Thursdays Wednesday,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that's when they figure out what they're doing that. I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: was a little surprised they were in pads yesterday, right,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: well if they usually in pads on the web, but
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: they moved that, wasn't it? Like Mike, it's become very sporadic.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: And I know it's usually only one a week, right,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and then some weeks they don't because once you get
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: into what is it like eleven and fourteen weeks or
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: something like that, right, right, it's they got to pick
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: their spots with him. But it seemed like, I mean,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, last year, it was more more
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the because it you should always
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: be Wednesday. But then I thought they changed it to
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: thumping Thursday or something like that. I don't know, but yeah, man, yeah,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: well I guess we got to watch out too if
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: if anybody else pops up with an illness. One other
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say too, is, you know, I
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: think Brian Hoyer must have a really interesting perspective on
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: this whole offensive change, just because he's been around the league,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: he's been in different offenses. He's played for a number
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: of different teams. He's played in the offense. We're trying
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: to mimic like supposedly, you know, like, but I'd just
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: be curious that might be maybe something to talk chat
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: with him about just what's his perspective. Well, I think
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: it's funny how he's such a sounding board for Mac
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Jones and that was where he went after the game.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: During the game, Alex, you had said that you noticed
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: that too, right on the sideline being there alive. I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: just think he's talked, and I know I've talked to
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Mike Reese about this, and Mike is pretty tight with
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer, and he Hoyder has told him like unequivocally
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: he has no interest whatsoever in coaching, but yet he
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: certainly fills that sort of mentor kind of a role. Now,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that is X's and knows,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and how much of that is, you know, just being
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: a sounding board, you know, to you know, this is
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: what I saw? What did you see from over here?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: You know that kind of thing which you know, rare,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: but no disrespect intended. I think Brian Hoyter's knowing what
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: he sees from the sideline more than Matt Patrician and
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Joe Judge. At this stage of an you know, from
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the offensive side, Matt patricia is used to looking at
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: things from the other side. Number one and number two,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: He's got to focus on the offensive line, which is
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: an important job. Yeah, as we've seen, Yeah, yeah, is
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: this a must win? No, in terms of what I mean,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: it really isn't. Like that's my question because I usually
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: we talk about must win. It's like, well, playoffs, That's
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: what I don't mean by the definition of the term.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: It's obviously not a must win. I think it's at
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: this season's going to go off the rails if they
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: lose this one. It's a confident standpoint. I think I
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: think the season could go off, go off the rails
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: if they lose them, because then you get Baltimore coming
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: in at home and well, like to your point, Fred
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the like, Matt can't keep saying like, no, we're gonna
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: get it now, We're gonna get like every week, like
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: it's at some point, at some point he'll start to
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: hesitate whenn't Jeremy shap Channel, pat Riley Oh yeah, it's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit like that Salton Pepper pulled back. Looks good.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Bill has an email that he had to get this
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: off his chest. He says, I've listened to since oh seven,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: heard every show since then. Don't email much work during
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the show, can't call live. I wanted to respond to
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: all the Belichick hate slash coordinator nonsense. I hope you
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: read my email. You drove me to it, he said one.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Patricia and Judge are good coaches, not the retread fired
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: losers you guys make them out to be. They were
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: both such great coordinators that they were hired at other programs.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Did you forget that they weren't such hot commodities because
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: they don't know how to coach? Yes, they got fired,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: were unsuccessful as head coaches. Yeah so our most first
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: time head coaches. Right. McDaniels was fired, retread loser head
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: coach as well. Remember he came back and did a
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: great job. Oh and by the way, he started on
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: defense and special teams as well, and seems like he
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: figured it out. They are good coaches, have the most
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: experienced coaching staff in the damn league. Stop trashing them.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Number two? Can we stop after number one take them individually, Well, sure,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: if you want to. Does that mean every guy who
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: was ever a coordinator becomes a head coach they're all
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: good coaches? No, but he's saying is not every you know, No,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: he said that that they were successful coaches, otherwise they
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten head coaching jobs. But he should we
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: talk about guys that we think are bad coaches. But
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: he's also saying that because they weren't unsuccessful, because they
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: weren't successful as head coaches, doesn't mean that they're bad coaches. Okay,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: so like as rich coach had a good coach, No,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: he's one that isn't. So how do you draw the line.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: But he's saying that everyone like this nine thousand guys
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that became head coaches that couldn't do it. They were
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: all successful coordinators, right, or they would have never gotten
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: their jobs. Right. But what he's saying is now he's
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: saying because they were hired as a Patriots coordinator makes
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: them a good coach. That's what he said. Most most
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: failed head coaches when they come back are pretty good coaches,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: not head coaches. And I'm I'm asking you based on
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: what well they don't fail in their in their second job,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you know, not as head coach. But going back, Okay,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue the semantics of it, but anyway,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: just to just say that he's a good coach because
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: he was a Patriots coach is silly. But that's what
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: he's saying. They were hired as Patriots coaches and that's
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: why they're good. That's what he said. You can read it,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: and that's that's what he's telling you. No, I don't
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: think so. I don't think. I think they achieved. They
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: achieved the level of a head coach based on their
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: work with the Patriots. That's what he said, based on
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: their work with the Patriots. Well, it happened. All the
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: guys that achieved level of head coach that were coordinated
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: to somewhere else, they might not have been good coaches,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: They just might have gotten the job. Well, who said that, Like,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: how didn't do what? He didn't say that? How did
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Eric Mania? But that's not what this guy just said,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: though it is what he said. I heard what he said. No,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: it's not that's not what he said. And I just
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: hate the guy who can't accept the fact that it's
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: unconventional to take a defensive coach and make him an
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: offensive assistant. Well, that's a that's a that can't stand that.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: That's a you can't accept the fact that that's odd
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: in causing problems. You're not paying attention that. That's another story.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: That's another story. Number two on the Belichick verse TV
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: twelve bit was was his offense the one that won
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: us last Super Bowl? Or was it Belichick in the
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: defense Tom didn't do crap offense? Belichick took the Patriots
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs last year with a freaking rookie and
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: went ten and six with Castle. He freaking led the
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Browns to the playoffs once out of five years. Do
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: you I mean, do you need to have his records
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: spit back at you? Well, I can also you know
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the context of those five years, Paul, that was a
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: pretty bad ten games below five hundred nine years. I
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: mean the last year was the carpet was thrown out
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: from under his feet. I mean it was a bad situation.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, if he had more stable loan of ship, um,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I think he would have been fine at Cleveland. Well,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I mean he's I mean, he's an example. Just make
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: stuff up too. I mean, my my brain just goes
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: to Adam Gase. He's a failed head coach, but he's
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: an experienced offensive coordinator, and I think if he was
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: here coordinating the offense, it wouldn't be the same. What
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the hell is this? No, everybody would say he's terrible
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: because he was a terrible head coach. Correct. No, Yes,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: that's not what this guy's saying. I think a lot
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: of that's what he is say. No, he's saying he'd
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, because the Patriots hired him. That's what
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: he was saying. Words in his mouth, missed a straw man,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: that's what he would say. You're putting words in his
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting words in his mouth. That's what he's saying. Okay,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I mean listen, that's what you're that's what you're reading
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: in summarizes email. The Patriots did it, so it's good. No,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: that's his email in a nutshell. No, that's like Tom
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Brady didn't do anything in twenty eighteen. You are they
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: didn't have They didn't get to a Super Bowl because
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: of offen You are reading into it when they're in
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Kansas City in overtime having to score thirty seven points
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: to get to the Superowl is it was defense that
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: won that Superowl is given Now now he's onto another thing.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: That was his second point. He is giving credit to
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: anybody who rises to the level of being offered a
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: head coaching. No, he's anybody who ever rose to the
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: level of being with the Patriots organization in twenty twenty two.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's what he's given credits. You're reading
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: into that, Fred, reread number two. You read reread point
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: number two. Point number two is a separate issue, right,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: so re read it. Okay, But but that's not what
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: we're talking about. When we talked about head coaches being
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: you know, that was point number one. I already made
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: my archie for that. I've moved on to number two, okay,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: So I just want to make sure that that I've
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: moved on to number two. The Patriots offense didn't do
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: anything in twenty eighteen. Yeah, Tom Brady two for three
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards against the Chargers and three hundred
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: fifty yards against the Chiefs, he said, and they lose
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: both games if he doesn't do that, he says, And
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with that, by the way, But
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: they had one game where the offense didn't score points
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and it happened to be the Super Bowl, and suddenly
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: defense want to say I agree with that. I think
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: it's it's bad. And Brady was still here. This guy
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: would not say that I agree with that. That, Um, yes,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: you can't discount what the offense did. Brady was still here.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: In Belichick had left, it would have been about Brady,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: not Belichick. Wow, this guy is as I don't know,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: but I'll read it again. He says on the Belichick
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: versus TB twelve bit was it his offense? Was it
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the offense that won us the last Super Bowl? Or
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: was it BB in the defense? And I would say offense, Yeah,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the offense got us there. No. BB took the Patriots
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs last year with a freaking rookie and
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: went ten and six with Castle. You skipped a line
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: he said, Tom didn't do crap. Thank you. He meant
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. And I disagree with that too.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: They don't win the Super Bowl without Brady. Of course,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: of course got leading up to it that, No, they
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: don't win the Super Bowl game without Brady. But even
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: if you say, like the offense did nothing, you know
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: by the stats you can say that. But they wouldn't
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: be there without time. And you've also said many times
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: that you were never worried about that game while the
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: game was going on. It's true a comment by the
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: way that I happened to agree with. Yeah, I agree,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: And why didn't you worry about it? Because we had
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: the great defense, because we had Tom Brady and they
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: had Jared Gard and I just that's why I didn't
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: worry about it. I just at the time, I still
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: had the feeling for the league. That is true, And
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: and you know what, I have to defend Fred. He
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: used to still have the feeling for the league until
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: last week three on Belichick the GM. Yes, he has
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: missed so of others. The Raiders missed their last three
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: first round picks. He also drafted Brady, Brady, Gron, Hernanda's
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: High Tower, Chandler Jones Man can see more, Mayor Mayo, Edelman, White,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Verene Chung, Devin Freakin, mccordy. Do you want to contrast
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: that with someone you consider a good GM. I would
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: put that record against anyone you got. He has drafted
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: more impact players than anyone. They all don't work out,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and you need to be honest about all of its success.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: In this area. How about percentages instead of amount because
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: he's been around for twenty three years, so he's drafted
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: more players than everybody else too. Ps. I remember the
• 54:03
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• 54:07
  Speaker 1: the mccordy pick and called him a special teamer. Guess
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: you were wrong. That's not true. I think it's not true.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I remember that we were wrong. No, we weren't. Yeah,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Bill called him a four down player and people took
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: that as that he was a special teamer, right, and
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: we defended Bill by saying that's not what he meant. Yeah,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: that's right, that's what happened. I do remember like people
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: criticizing that pick. I do, yes, I remember, it just
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't us. Yeah. Was she killed it? She killed the pick.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I remember it very well because I was really adamant
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: about it because he was picked exactly where he was
• 54:46
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• 54:50
  Speaker 1: said it, and I was like, no, we do a
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: lot of draft preparation, right, that's exactly where Devin mccordy
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: was supposed to go late first early second round, and
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: everybody was all over and they picked a gunner in
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: the first round. That's not what Bill said. He said
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: he can play on all four downs. That doesn't mean
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: he's a special teamer. That means he's a defensive player
• 55:10
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• 55:13
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• 55:16
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  Speaker 1: joins us, and he's fresh from practice. We gonna we
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  Speaker 1: He's got to get a proper Fred grilling. Now, okay, practice,
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  Speaker 1: what's up even aw you guys doing? So? We just
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: learned that Mac was sick. Mac has an illness who
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: was not at practice today. We were actually informed of
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: that before we even got out to practice. That in
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: itself is curious. Yes, I wasn't sure how much we
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: wanted to delve into that. You guys were, No, it's
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: it's all over now, it's all yeah TV. So we
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: we're standing out before we were going in. I a
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: little inside baseball. We wait outside the practice, outside the gate,
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  Speaker 1: and we're told when we're invited into the practice field
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: to take attendance. And as we were standing there, we
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: were told to tweet that Mac was not going to
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: be at practice before we went into practice, which is
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: usually a non tweeting time of the covering of practice,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: and we were told that he was not going to
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: be at practice due to an illness. Tom Pelocero later
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: reported that it is a stomach bug of some sort,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: upset stomach and Mac was not out there sure enough.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me interesting, I mean, you're missing Thursday before a game.
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  Speaker 1: Can't be good, you know, I imagine. I mean, I
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: have respect for Max's toughness. I probably think it's some
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: significant he's probably yeah, I can't believe all the haze
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: in the barn as they say, No, definitely not now.
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  Speaker 1: Usually Thursday is a big third down day for them,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: where they go into the third down install and get
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: into some of the different things that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: see from the game plan. And that's a huge day
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  Speaker 1: for preparation, of course, because really on first and second down,
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, you're just kind of running your
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: offense and calling plays that you think my work against
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  Speaker 1: the coverage, but it's not necessarily anything very hyper specific
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  Speaker 1: to what the opponent is doing. But on third down,
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  Speaker 1: especially with Brian Flores now in Pittsburgh, you know you're
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: going to get some pressure looks. You know you might
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  Speaker 1: get some zeros. There's some different things that he's going
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: to throw at the Patriots like Miami did last week,
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  Speaker 1: and from a pressure standpoint, and that all usually comes
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  Speaker 1: on third down situations. So third down big day on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday for practice. Friday's usually red zone installing, you know,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: just kind of final preparations and final tweaks and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. So there is a big practice to miss. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if Saturday walkthrough has more urgency now that
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: they use this form makeup time. But anyway, I assume
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: they weren't in pads today, is that correct? They were
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: not in pads today, Shorts and shells type of look
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  Speaker 1: to practice in turn of that, So I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that it changes much for everybody else because Brian Hoyer
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  Speaker 1: is probably going to run the first team offense, you
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  Speaker 1: would think, and they're going to run what they would
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  Speaker 1: have ran if Mac was out there, So it's not
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  Speaker 1: like that really changes for the other ten guys on
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  Speaker 1: the field. And I'm sure that Mac, whether it's virtual
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  Speaker 1: or he's physically here, can still do the meetings after
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  Speaker 1: practice and still get into the tape study and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. Other than Mac, who wasn't available, everybody else
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  Speaker 1: was there from the fifty three man roster. Juan Bentley
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  Speaker 1: was there. They said that he was a DMP yesterday
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  Speaker 1: with that toe injury. Adrian Phillips continues to be at practice,
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  Speaker 1: so from what's been reported in the fact that he's
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  Speaker 1: been out there the last two days. It sounds like
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  Speaker 1: Phillips avoided a severe injury when it looked a little
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  Speaker 1: bit dicey there when he was on the field laying
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  Speaker 1: on the field against Miami. They're still missing three guys
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  Speaker 1: from the practice squad at Bill Murray to Cameron mcgron
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  Speaker 1: and Lebrin Ray today. Mcgron and Lebrin Ray didn't practice
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  Speaker 1: yesterday either, and Cameron mcgron hasn't practiced in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks. If I'm not mistaken, he's been absent a
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  Speaker 1: little bit for a while now, so I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with him either. But they're practice squad
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  Speaker 1: down three guys right now. Another one of the normal
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  Speaker 1: practice questions we asked so that you're media contingent. Was
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  Speaker 1: it a large one or a small one or what
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  Speaker 1: would you say, normal normal, normal amount of media. I
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: would say the group that was initially informed of max
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  Speaker 1: absence before practice was a little bit on the smaller side.
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  Speaker 1: Some later rivals. I'm not going to call out anybody
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  Speaker 1: by name, but but some how did you know some
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: late some later rivals. But for the most part, it
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: was about the same as it usually and in the
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: mood of the team. Could you detect a certain mood
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  Speaker 1: out there? It's okay if you say no, but find
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: some good adjectives. Honestly, they still still seem pretty loose,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: which I think is a good thing. Jonathan Jones was
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: dancing out there with Matt june on a little bit
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: from what we saw. You like when you see some dancing,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: like when you see some energy. I did. I did
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: watch Kendrick Borden a little bit to see because he's
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys that always love to dance, or
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: you know, Cam was here. He was big into that
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  Speaker 1: too during training camp with Cam and they would dance
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  Speaker 1: during stretching and get into it and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily not to like go on a
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  Speaker 1: whole conspiracy of Kendrick boorn uh here, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily see him popping around as much as he used to,
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  Speaker 1: which is a little bit interesting. Yeah, because you know,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: we we actually we see so little a practice. I
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  Speaker 1: need to know all these other things, you know. You know,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, how did they look on
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: third down situational plays? You know, so Mike and I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: dropped the ball yesterday. We didn't ask the Fred Staples,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: and Fred was very upset with us, disappointed him myself. Yeah,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: we talked about it later. We talked. Didn't even ask
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  Speaker 1: him all the pertinent questions Mood had. Who was media?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: What the movie? Right? I will say Jack Jones against
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Air It was actually against one of those pads that
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: they try to whack the guys with to kind of
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: simulate that it's a receiver going up against spectacular one
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: handed catch. There we go, girls, It was actually a
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  Speaker 1: pretty sick catch. I will say. So there's a coming
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: for you. There's a highlight for you, all right. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: this is a development, though, I wonder if it's going
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: to do anything to the spread. It's gone up. It's
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: gone up, so max out. We get from one and
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: a half to two. So now we're favored by two
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: on ESPN. I just saw on the scroll it said
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: minus two, so it's probably different places, different number. Is
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: that weird to you? The spread? Patriots minus two. I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: will say that the Steelers offensive performance got overshadowed by
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: how great their defense was. The Steeler's offense was terrible
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: on Sunday against Cincinnati. A lot of their points came
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: in drives. It started in plus territory or started it
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: with great in the Patriots. Yeah, yeah, it had great feel.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Patriots. Who's saying that the Patriots
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: offense was good last but everybody's saying Pittsburgh's offense is abysmal. Yeah,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: like Trubisky was awful. They stay. I agree, by the way,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: hand up in the back. I agree, But the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: were the same and favored. Do you think the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: defense is the same as Pittsburghs. I don't know. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Depends on how they play without t J. Watt, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know how the Steelers are going
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  Speaker 1: to make up for that loss. I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the things that they did against Cincinnati they're really
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: only rushing four or five guys at a time because
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  Speaker 1: they're playing a ton of zone coverage zone zone. There
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: are blit zones and things like that, obviously, but you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to take too many guys out of zone
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: coverage because you're trying to cover space with defenders in
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: the back end. So they had a lot more four
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: or five man rushes and you might expect, and I
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: think a lot of those get home because a lot
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: of eyes are on t J. Watt and now that
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: isn't out there. How does that at distribution look and
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: is there really as much of a stretch? You know,
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  Speaker 1: Alex Hi Smith had a really good game for them
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  Speaker 1: last week, but he's on the other side of t J.
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  Speaker 1: Watt rushing off the edge, so all the pressure is
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: going over or all the you know, blocking is going
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: over to Watt. Cameron Hayward is always spectacular. He had
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: another good game against the Bengals, and he's just like
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: an ageless wonder. It doesn't matter how old that guy is,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: so he's going to get after the quarterback on the interior.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: But you wonder about some of the edge pressure that
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: they were able to generate against the Bengals and how
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: much of that was really because all the protections sliding
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  Speaker 1: over to t J. Watt And now they're not going
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: to have to do that. Yeah. Yeah, Hayward on Cole Strange.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's one to watch. I think I think that
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: was one of my matchups. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: a Yeah, that's a good one. He's got to hold
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: hold up. Good matchup. Hayward on Cole Strange, Well, I had,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: uh you know, Hayward and the other guy who's their
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: uh nose tackle, Tyson. I said, they're those two guys
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: against our interior line. Yeah, you know, that's the game
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: to me, honestly, because Cameron Hayward five quarterback pressures, sacked
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: two QB hits in that game against Cincinnati. He's a
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: spectacular player. And the Patriots have had some trouble with
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: interior pressure, not just picking up guys, but also handling
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: different things on the interior and getting two bodies on
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: some of those situations as well. And I do worry
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: about Cameron Hayward against Cole Strange. It's Cole Strange's second
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: career game in the NFL against one of the best
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: interior pass rushers of the last decade. That's a mismatch
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh. And on top of that, Cincinnati was really
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: unable to run the ball at all on the Steeler
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: front as well. And as much as t J. Watts
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: a factor and that the interior guys, there was not
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of push on the inside that they were
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback. And you know, and Watt and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: high Smith are coming off the edge and Burrows trying
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: to step up there's no place to step up into
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: because those guys are pushing the pocket in the middle.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: So Paul, if cole Strange has a good game, what
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: will be the reason why that's not a big deal. Oh,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: I think that would be a good Okay, I think
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just making it well. I know you would like
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: friends patting himself on the back for being cerebral with
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: his little matchup. I think the key to the game
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: is the play of the offensive line. Like you have
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: to protect the passer better than you have throughout the preseason.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: In the first regular season game, I think both offensive
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: lines have been really bad, Pittsburgh's and the Patriots. Which
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: one plays better on Sunday It might be as simple
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: as that. If you the offensive line that plays better
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: might win. Yeah, it could be as simple as that. Yeah.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Like I saw some of the Trabisky on Pro Football
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Talk talking about Flora has given him some insight into,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: you know, potentially what the Patriots defense might do. But
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you haven't, but like
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: it doesn't want to look like a Patriots defense obviously Pittsburgh.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: It's just an interesting influence to have Flores there. I
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: think he kind of touched on a little bit with
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe throwing some of the secondary blitzes. But
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: they blit blitz the crap out of Mac last year
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: when he was with Miami. You know, I wonder how
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: much they're gonna have to do without what to bring,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: you know, extra guys and try to you know, I
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: don't know, but what's going on in Pittsburgh but here locally?
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Are you surprised that there's not more talk about the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: Belichick Flores thing? And like, I was thinking about that
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: little they talk to each other, like the text smesh
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: snaffu with Brian Dable and all that stuff, And I
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: do I wonder what that relationships like right now. I
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: wonder if they're if they're copasetic or not. Yeah, you
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: wonder what the Steelers game plan on defense. So Terrell
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: Austin their defensive coordinator. He's a Cover two guy. He
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: comes from a Tampa two background and he played a
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: lot of Cover two against the Bengals. But they have
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chaise, they have te Higgins, they have Tyler Boy,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: they have weapons that you want to keep the safeties
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: over the top. The Patriots might not scare you vertically
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: as much as those guys scare you, So I wonder
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: there were It kind of felt like at times like, Okay,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: here's you know, Austin's turn to call the defense, and
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: now here's Brian Flores is turning to call the defense
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: because they're calling cover two a lot, and then the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: next five players are all man coverage, five man rush,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, there's Brian Flores. So it's kind
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: of like a meld of the two different systems. So
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: with this game plan with Flores is I wouldn't necessarily
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: say the institutional knowledge is that big of a deal anymore.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: He hasn't been here in a couple of years and
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: never coached against Mac and practice or anything like that.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: But his success, certainly with Miami last year. Is this
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: a Flores game plan? Does Terrell Austin say to Brian Flores,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: how did you beat him? You know the Patriots better
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: than I do. You had success against them in Miami. Here,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: it's your game plan this week? Because then they do
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: have that capability of playing more man coverage, they just
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: lean more heavily on zone against Cincinnati. I also think
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: that Brian Flores may look at it and say, like
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: that first game last year, Mike is right. He came
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: out on with double barrels. As the season wore on,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I think people kind of realize we don't have to
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: do that to sort of contain this offense. We don't
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: have to put ourselves in harms way that recklessly. And
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think Miami did it, you know anywhere near
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: was much last week is they did in the first
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: week in twenty twenty one. Yea, So maybe Brian Flores
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: looks at it and says some of the stuff that
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Evan just said. You know, you know five man rushes.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I know that's technically a blitz if you bring more
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: than four, But that's not the same kind of thing
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: that we saw from the Dolphins in Week one last year,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: when you know, as anybody and everybody was coming to Bill,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that I've asked my question. It's another
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: reason why he again, back when he used to talk
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: to me, he used to say things like that he technically,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: in his mind, a blitz is when you have one
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: more when they bring more than you have, right blocking, right, yes,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: And I agree with that that mindset, and even like
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: I understand that it was a safety blitz because it's
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: an unconventional guy. But it's still they only sent five
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: on that play right last week, and that's why Bill
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: was kind of short in the post game when he
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: said we had we had five guys they had to
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: block him. We didn't block it up. Yep. Yeah, I
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: will say last year, in the last game against Miami,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: they played a little bit more zone against the Patriots
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: than what they did in the opener. Opener was all
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: man and man blitz right. In the second game, they
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: played a little bit more zone, probably thinking that McDaniels
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: would have him ready for the man stuff, so they
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: pivoted a little bit with Brian Flores. So I wonder
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: how that goes this week. I think that that for
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: the Patriots offense, it feels a little bit of right
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: or we wanted me has no idea what Matt Patrician's
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: gonna do. It feels a little bit premature to get
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: into what is the defense gonna do against them and
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: game planning and stuff when you got to go out
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: there and execute surprises. Just the part that I was
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: saying about Flores, he might not feel like they're gonna
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: do enough damage to you have to, you know, blitz
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: as much. And the other part that I think Flores
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: could be interesting here is again with Evans point about
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: him not maybe necessarily having the institutional knowledge you know,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: in that, but he was around when the Patriots annually
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: went against Pittsburgh and he knew how Bill and Josh
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: attacked the Steelers defense. I think you could be of
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: some value there. Yeah, you know, just sort of knowing
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: what they have done in the past, you know, on
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: both sides, you know, against Roethlisberger, and this is what
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: they used to do, and this is how they used
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: to try to go about it. So let's make sure
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: we have Drubisky prepared for some of those things. And
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: on the flip side, they had great offensive game plans
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh when they needed So if we want to
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: sit back and do all the things that you guys
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: used to do, this is what he's going to do.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if mac Jones is the same as
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady in terms of being able to, you know,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: take advantage of all that stuff. You know, like that,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: if he's going to sit back and cover two, we
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: all know that that was suicide against Tom Brady. I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: don't know that that's suicide with Matt. I just think
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: you know, as great as Pittsburgh's defense has been over
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: the years, they also had some good weapons on offense.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know remember Levon Bell and even when
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was there and you always had a worry
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: about them and Ben Roethlisberger and yeah, I mean you
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: don't need to do that now as of late. Yeah,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: they had some great game like seventeen and eighteen were
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: like great games in Pittsburgh. I mean the one in
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: nineteen we blew doors off here in that opening that
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Mike talked about earlier in the show. But those two
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: remember the game the ground game where he went off.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: But then that controversial play games. Ye, they changed the
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: rule as a result of that play um And then
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I think that was seventeen. I think the Steelers beat
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: them in eighteen. Um in a lower shot. It was
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: like a seventeen ten game. Ye. That was a give
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: me the look. No, no, it's it's it's one of
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: those Pal moments. I know. I'm sure you love is
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: um is all the Patriots fans making fun of the
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Steelers for like lionizing the interception from that game where
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: they like, I think that sealed the game if I
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: if I remember correctly last and then the Patriots went
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: on to win the Super Bowl, and you know, so
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: it was one of those things of I don't know, okay, good,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: sorry for you don't remember that, do you? The Steelers interception? No,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I do remember the play in the end zone. They
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: like put up a picture of it in the Steelers
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: like Joe Hayden, wasn't it Yeah, a locker room or
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: something like. It was like they made a big deal
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: out of like we finally did it, you know, like
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: like they blew it up. It was one of those things.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: This is a weird matchup though from a coach, Fred
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: voices it's a weird matchup because the Patriots and the
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Steelers coaching staffs are very, very different from the last
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: time that these two teams played. Keith Butler was their
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for a really long time. He they parted
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: ways because they struggled last year. I wouldn't know. I
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: don't know enough about Pittsburgh in or working so know
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: if it was a true firing or not. But they
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: did not have a good defensive year last year. So
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: he leaves, Tara Lawson comes in, Matt Canada on offense.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about Trubisky as a drop back passer.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: He was abysmal in that game against Cincinnati, but Matt
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Canada is known for having some tricks up as sleeve.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: They ran a reverse flee flicker against the Bengals for
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: a big play. Yeah. They had four explosives. All of
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: them had some sort of like trick or bell and
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: whistle or I think Deonta Johnson had one insane like
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Odell one handed catch along the sideline and overtime that
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: was a great catch. I saw that on red zone. Yeah,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: to get them down the field. So they had They
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: had a flee flicker, reverse flee flicker that goes for
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: a big play, a tight end screen went for a
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: big play. Deontay Johnson mosses somebody on the sideline for
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: a big play, and then Dribrisky had one scrambled drill
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: broken play in overtime. But they had two explosives in
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: regulation and that was it. And they were both off
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: of like scheme gimmick type of plays. So Canada is
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: a he's a schemer, He's somebody that's going to drop
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: some things. Chase Claypool had six carries for them on
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: end a rounds and reverses, so they're gonna get him
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: involved in the running game as well. But when they
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: go to just their straight stuff like turn around and
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: give the ball to Nagy Harris or throw the ball
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: in a drop back passing game, they were terrible again Cincinnati,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: so they really had to be smoking mirrors. If the
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: Patriots defense is more on top of some of those
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: things that Canada is going to do, I don't really
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: see how Robisky strings positive play together, and I don't
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: know if the Patriots offense gonna be able to string
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: a positive place together either. But I'd picked seventeen thirteen
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: for a reason. I think love scoring game, all right,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: eighteen thirteen? Who pats? Oh wow? Uh yeah, that's that's key.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: You know who gets the seventeen eight five five past
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: five hundred ticket outline. Let's get back to the phones.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: We'll start with Matt and Ohio. What's up, Matt, Matt, guys,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: how's it going good? So I took Ball's advice yesterday
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: and listened to Felger and Matt later on the day,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: But I wasn't able to hear your take on the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne because it only posted the first hour of
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: their show. UM, but I wanted to talk about UM
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: kind of their opinions about it. I mean they brought
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: some stories up with Kendrick Bourne, how him and Patricia
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: got into it UM during practice and then he him
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: missing the meeting, and then it all stems back to
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: in the off season when he was talking to Mike
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Reef about you know that the offense and how he's
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: going to be more involved in it and how he's
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: going to be used as a running back and how
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: excited he is. I don't understand and where this pettiness
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: is coming from. I guess it comes back to I
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: mean it's it's totally different story. I guess with Malcolm Butler,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: when you know, being benched in the Super Bowl, I mean,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: is Matt Patricia that petty and that he can't have
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: a conversation with these guys to do what's best for
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: this team. I mean, we're gonna take a divisional loss
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna I mean, obviously you lost the
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but that's obviously not the reason, and still
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't have won the game. Kendrick Warren went to play,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: but come on, now, three plays and DeVante Parker plays
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: every snap. I mean, it makes absolutely no sense. How
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: we just can't be adults about this and get over
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: our fighting. I mean, I just I just don't understand.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, if like his bill pushing portray, should you
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: know be that he's he's the guy everybody needs to
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: listen to him or else or I mean, Patricia, is
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: that like that much? I mean, he's getting all the blame.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we don't know what's going on. We don't know.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're trending into the Felgram zone here,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: where they were an alternate state of react exactly. So
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: if you say it enough, it becomes fact. Why is
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: anybody surprised by this? I just don't understand if you
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: followed this team and Paul is better at remembering all
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: of the different instances where this has gone on. It's
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: not just Malcolm Butler, and it's not just Kendrick Boorne,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: like Wes Welker got bench for a quarter because he
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: said Rex Ryan likes feet or something like that to
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: the media, like this has been going on for twenty
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: years that guys that aren't following the program don't play
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: like I don't understand why this is so? What is
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: the example of and I don't you know why that.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: I don't This is not a Kendrick boy thing. But
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: what is the example of him not following the program late? Okay,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: but that's why he didn't playing in practice? No, No,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: he showed up late. That's why he didn't play against
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Carolina that night. True, that's it. Like, but those those
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: are we know, like Otterer than anybody at their strikes
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: with Bill right like you you have. I don't know
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: how many he gives people. You know, some people I
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: don't think have any, like Jonah's Gray. He shows up
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: late to one practice, but even he it wasn't just
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: one lot more than Yeah, it was a lot. And
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: that's why. And that's why I believe even with it
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: wasn't just that there had to be other things. Yeah,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: and I and like I find it weird. And again
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Evan talked about when we did the whole sort of
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Kendrick bone timeline during practice in the Carolina practices. Do
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: you remember the very first practice of training camp the
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: shoulders that it was basically otherwise known as the only
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: day that the offense had success? Yeah? Yeah, who had
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: success that day? Parker and h not Ja Kobe. They
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: were jumping all over the place. It was all the
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: energy they were creating, Kendrick Bourne whipping the crowd up,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: to Davante Parker making contested catches in the end zone,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: and to the point where when Bourne talked about it,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, the defense was getting a little
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: mad after a while. And remember the defense like blink
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: them the rest of the weekend. So he opened camp,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: he was getting balls thrown to him and he was
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: a part of things. And then as camp went on,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: we were all sort of noticing, like, he's not getting
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: any passes thrown to him. He's coming in as like
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: the fourth guy. He's sort of sometimes like in the
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: second group with Trey Nixon and little Jordan Humphrey. You know,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: he wasn't out there as much with Parker, Myers and Agalore,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: and you sort of wondered what happened. These are the
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: kinds of things we don't know, but something did. They
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: didn't just decide all of a sudden, you know what,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: we don't like this guy. Anybody everybody's pointing the fingering
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: yeah and ill, this has been going on for twenty
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: years with the head coach's So why are we saying
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: that this is Patricia's problem. That's and that's what starts
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: to bump me is just that, well, we're going to
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: establish this now, what what we're going to say happened
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: was that that Matt Pete doesn't like him and that's
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: and it's all his choice, and he's and they had
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: beef and it's still going and Matt Patricia's that's hearing
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: it like you're just like watching the But that's off
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: of a report. That's a different to me, that's a
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: different well, but but that's a simple like Matt Patricia's decision.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: But now it's becoming that this is an ongoing Patrician
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: you know, they was, I mean, according to Tom Kerran
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: there was some some kind of strife between Patricia and Born.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. That's I mean, that's
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: that's the way the report came out that he was
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: sort of um during wide Receiver meetings. He was sort
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: of correcting things like that's not how that's not how
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: it's done. That's not you're not doing it right, and
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: that got back to Patricia and Patricia was really upset
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: about it. That's sort of the behind the scenes. But
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: that ever, than I have this right like, this is
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: not about Matt. Patricia just decided, you know what, Bill,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: this guy, he ain't playing anymore. That's not how it works.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: That's not how that's not how things work. Paul and
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: talk about over the last twenty years, how many guys
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: have gotten into the dock house with Bill? How many
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: times have we gone through this? And like then everybody's
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: saying it's Matt Patricia, who's actually the guy that But
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say even more so, give me an
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: example of a guy who got in a doghouse with
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: a positional coach or one of the coordinators, Michael Bennett,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: and that's why he ended up never playing. You know,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: like if that lists a lot smaller, right, and Michael
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: Bennett might be one of them. I don't know. You
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: need to happen to Ray Hamilton. But that was a
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: long time. Didn't he get in a fight with Bill? Yes,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: that's what That's the way I remember it. At least. Yeah,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: dock house traded three weeks later. Let's go back to
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: the ticket, right, we're got a hurry fed you got
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: a home? Yeah, well you gotta hurry. Oh she's okay,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: I can't do that. Then we gotta go to pill No,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: you gotta get you gotta cli off there. You can't
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: leaves on the phone. All right, all right, quickly Stephen,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: New York. What's up? Yeah, I guess they'll be quick,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: you know. One first one want to say, Evan, a
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: huge fan of your work in your film Breakdown, would
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: love to see a video series on the Patriots YouTube page.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: One of the things that's concerning to me, and I'm
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: wondering if you guys can write some insight and how
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: they fix this. But you and another individents have mentioned
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: that the wide receivers weren't were running routes that didn't
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: make sense, whether crowding areas or you know, almost running
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: into each other. And I'm wondering, is that the communication thing?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Is that a coaching like a wide receiver coach? Is
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: that a scheme thing? Like? Why is that happening? Thanks
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: for the call, Steve. Patriots were in concept called nish
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: probably like six times against Miami where you have the
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: shallow crossers coming over the middle and usually leaked to
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: running back and on fourth down, the fourth down play
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: that Zavan Howard got called for a legal contact and
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: it ended up going for a first down to the Patriots,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers and Damian Harris collided in the middle of
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: the field. They ran into each other when they're supposed
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: to intersect, they ran into each other. And Mac was
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: looking to work through that part of the concept as
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: it was like fourth and three, Like they're not trying
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: to bomb it down the field on fourth and three,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: and the two receivers he was trying to throw the
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: football too, collided and fell to the ground, so he
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't able to throw the ball to the four yard
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: pass to get it past the sticks versus bombing it
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: down the field. They were in Mesha half a dozen
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: other times and the same thing. Everything was happening in
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: like a little pocket of space on top of each other,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: and you just don't see any route space. It's spacing
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: of the field, and I think in a lot of
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: cases it's a detriment to the fact that they can't
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: take the top off. And so these guys, these these
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: defenders were getting in the way because they're crowding the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: box within fifteen yards of the line of scrimmage. So
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I it's an interesting question of you know, what's the
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: what why? Like why is this happening. I think there's
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: probably a million different reasons as to why, but that
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: fourth down play stuck out to me so much because
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: they tried to get they tried to have they had
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: the right idea, but they ended up just running into
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: each other and it was kind of a mess of
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: a play and Mac ends up having to throw a
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: bomb to Davante Parker in the end zone against Avian
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Howard and they got bailed out by the flag. NAT's
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: in Santa Cruz. What's up, nat, Hey, guys. I just
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to follow up on some of the talk about
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: the coaches, and I think that in some ways they're,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: you know, built in danger of losing the locker room.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: He brought in two coaches who had both had lost
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: the locker room as head coaches, and he brought it
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: and you know, it's like a lot of the guys
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: would have gotten in line when the team was going
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: to the last twenty years, like Evan said, going to
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: the championship in the Super Bowl. That's how it's gonna
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: work anymore. And these guys are different, young men are
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: different from they were twenty years ago. They were you know,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: they're millionaires now, they're treated differently, and if Bill doesn't
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: adapt and stop making everybody fall in line in the
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: same way that works when you were constantly winning games
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: and winning championships, he's just gonna, like, guys are just
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: gonna say, Okay, can I get out of here, how
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: my last a year in New England and be done
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: with my contract and then move on. So I really
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: hope Bill adapts and like just learns the human being
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: side of the players and changes the way he interacts,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: because right now it seems like this is maybe not
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: a must win, but it's a must play good because
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're at a precipice in the next
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks of you know, whether Bill can even
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: remain as a functioning leader of this team. Wow, I
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: know that's tell a dire but I'll take it off
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: fine team, all right, Yeah, I mean it's it's a
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: good conversation to have, and you've had it before. But
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: I think Bill has acknowledged that he needs to adapt
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: and things have changed, and I think, you know, I
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: think he has in certain areas, you know, but yeah,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: I think he has two. But I think what's like,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: you know, what's concerning to me is just all this
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: talk of installing an offense that is rudimentary and isn't
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: going to do the job in the NFL. Like I'm
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: fine with like the personnel stuff and pushing the right
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: buttons off the field, like I'm sure he's changed plenty
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: of stuff we don't know. We don't know how he
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: talks to the team. But what really makes me apprehensive
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: about this whole thing is just the fact that why
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: would this guy, who's the greatest coach of all time,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: it knows everything there is to know about football put
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: in an offense that is not going to be functional
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: and successful at the NFL level. That that's what's mind
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: blowing to me, and the thing I'll be watching it
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: to me, Yeah, it's it's less about how he's community
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: because I think communication has always been sort of a
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: challenge for him, but it's been able. I think he's
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: been able to get his message across to the team
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: obviously for twenty plus years, you know, as well as
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: anybody needs to, right, I mean, they've won more than
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: any team ever. So I think the differences now are
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: when you do things like that, Mike, you're changing the offense.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I know this upset the guy who
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: wrote in earlier. But when you're doing it with guys
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: that have no offensive background, people are going to question
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: you when they haven't been around for when you won
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: those six super Bowls, And most of the people that
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: are involved in this transition weren't around when you were
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: winning all your games. So, yes, Bill Belichick comes with
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: an enormous reputation that everybody would love to play for.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: But when you're starting to do things that are a
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: little bit unconventional, it's harder to get the buy in
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: from people who haven't been around when you've wanted a
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: high level And I think that's the kind of stuff
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: that I think Nat might be talking about. But I
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: still I think he could still communicate with the team
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: and get his message across. It's whether or not they
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: believe in what they're doing. All right, it's a good conversation,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: but we have to hurry. I know, you gotta it's
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: that time of the week because you gotta put a
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: lot of you gotta put a lot of thought into
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: your performance. All right. As we previewed, it was a
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: bad week for Fred last week. Yes, a bad really
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't begin to describe it, but it wasn't bad for everybody,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: because Paul went ten five and one, which was not
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: bad for a week one performance. Yeah, followed by Tamara
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: at seven, eight and one. Of course, then Mike gets six,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: nine and one, and Fred evan, I want you to
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: listening to this. This is overall just picking winners, sixteen games,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: just picking the winner, no spread, no nothing, two thirteen
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: and one, Oh my god, as go the Patriots, so
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: um with the spread. I screwed up. I picked Cincinnati.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I never picked Cincinnati. I forgot that rule. I shouldn't
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: have picked them. That was one. Okay, yeah he does.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: That's why he goes to thirteen and one because he
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: has about eleven grudges and sometimes all of those grudges
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: don't work, and it all happened to not work in
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: the same week he has. He has arguments with a
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: lot of teams at the same time I do. With
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: the spread. Paul also won that at ten and six,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: followed by I'm sorry, followed by Mike at seven and nine.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Good job, Mike, good for you. Uh yeah, it's good
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: for you. Samara at five and eleven, and Fred four
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: and twelve. Yeah, not bad compared to two thirteen and one.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: That's awful. Yeah, I just don't the feeling I knew
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: going into the season. It didn't. I didn't have that
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: I honest to god, I I've never remember a week
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: like that with um just the overall no picks spread
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: that can happen to you in the spread. You pick
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: a bunch of upsets one week and none of them happened.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: Just it makes me feel good. The rest of the
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: year ISAs no matter how bad I do, hopefully you'll
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: always have two thirteen and one. Yeah. Well, you know,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: in my defense, there were a lot of close games,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: so they could have gone either. So this was funny,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: like when it was you know, I compiled the sheet
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: and I and I looked and I was like, I
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: had to do something wrong. So I went back and
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: I did them all again, just to make sure. I
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: was like, no, that's right, that's right, all right, we
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: gotta we got fifteen The one and O Chargers visit
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: the one and oh Chiefs eight fifteen on Prime video.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs by four and a half, four and a Hay,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: they were great last week. I really do like Justin Herbert,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to take the Chiefs at home. I
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: will lay the points Tamara slash Alex. So are we
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: really just going to be looped together? Yes? Okay, Well
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: I will separate her. No, he's got a two rook Okay,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not prepared. Okay, he didn't get to watch the
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: All twenty two on all the other games. You don't
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: really need to prepare, as I've shown you don't. I
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: will separate. I will separate your record. I know that
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: you're picking this week, Okay, Okay, I promise. I don't
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: want you getting drawn down into that testing you, Paul,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go h Chargers plus three and a half.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: You do you like them to win the game? You
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: have to say who you think is gonna win in cover? Okay,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: So you like the Chargers out right? Yeah, Chargers out right? Okay.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: I am gonna split it. I am gonna take Kansas
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: City to win, but I'll take the hook Freddie and
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: I'll say that they'll the Chargers will keep it close. Yeah,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Chiefs both ways. Sunday at one the
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: one in Old Dolphins, visit the one in Old Ravens.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: Good scouting game for the Patriots. Ravens buy three and
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: a half at the Dolphins four. I again not impressed
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: with two. I'm gonna take Baltimore at home. I lay
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: the points Ravens all the way. I am going to
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: do the same thing. I will take the Ravens to win.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: I will take the hook and I will take Miami
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: to cover. Um. Whose quarterbacking for the Ravens? Lamarch at
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: March's pretty good? Right? Yes? Yeah, yes, he had a
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: good week last week. I was so start but he
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: picked it up. He was okay, pretty good player. Um yeah,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: I'll go with the twelve. I know you don't have
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: much use for him. I'll go with the Ravens. Uh.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: Sunday at one the oh and one Jets visit the
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: one in oh Browns. Yeah? Uh? What was that? Jets
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: and brown Jets and Browns? Did I did? I skip
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: the Jets and Browns game? So will everybody else? Oh?
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: Here we go? Sorry it was right below. Uh, Cleveland
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: by five and a half, five and a half. I
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: do not have the same list that you. I'm gonna
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: take Cleveland and win. Um, but I'm gonna grab those
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: points for the Jets. I think it'll be close. Cleveland
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: to win. Cleveland covers. Yes, I'm with Alex Cleveland both ways.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Jets outright? Yeah? Really, yea, what is
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: going on? Jets? Jets both ways? Say this is why
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: you're two thirteen and one. That's one of the games
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: that you always picked the other way. I know, what
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: are you doing doing the Castanza thing? Okay? Yeah? Sunday
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: at one, the one and oh Commanders visit the oh
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: and one Lions. Okay, so I want you to pay attention.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: Lions by one and a half. Lions by one and
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: a half. That's a tough one. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: take you know what. I'm gonna take Detroit. I watched
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. I liked it. That's enough for me, Alex. Yeah,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Detroit to win Detroit minus one and a half. Yeah,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Detroit too. I'm probably gonna live to
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: regret it because every time I take the Lions, I lose.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: But I'll take Detroit. Detroit. Can yell at Hardy? You two, yep,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: me too? It's good, Ammo to yell at Hardy after
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: our game. Sunday at one, the OO and one Colts
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: visit the oh and one Jaguars. Colts by four and
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: a half. Hmm that I just I can't pick Jacksonville. Um,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis was up and down. I'm gonna take Indie on
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: the road. That's the favorite retweet by the points retweet. Yeah,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: I want to take Indie, but I don't feel great
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: about it. I just they looked like the same kind
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: of team. I thought Matt Ryan played well. He threw
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: for a lot of yards. Uh one of the receivers
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: taken after Taykwon throw it and had a terrible drop
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: in the end zone. And Alec Pierce. Oh, yeah, that's
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: never nady guy. Right. Oh. I don't like him at all,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: but he's one of those guys. Yeah, Fred, you liked him, Yeah,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: you don't like him. I didn't think the Colts look
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: great in that game. I thought they were very lucky
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: to tie. They probably should have been won in overtime.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: But I'll take the Colts to bounce. What's the number?
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Four and a half Colts favored. Yes, I'll take the
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: Colts to win, but I'll take the number and the hook. Okay,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: all right? Um Sunday at one, the one and oh
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Buccaneers travel to the one in oh Saints Tampa by
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: two and a half. And I think New Orleans has
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: won something stupid like seventh straight or something, not cleaning
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: the playoff game against these four regular against Brady. I
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: think that's gonna change this week. I'm gonna take Tampa Bay.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna we'll lay those points. I'm going to take
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: the Bucks Bucks two minus two and a half. Yeah,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: I will take the Saints. I think that they have
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: their number. I think they know how to defend Brady,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: and I think that that offensive line is going to
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: be under siege against the Saints front. You hate Brady, Yeah,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I picked against Brady last week.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: That's another one of my rules that I went against.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go back to picking with Tom Brady,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: back to the well, back to swapping spit with Tom Brady. Yeah,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: like you did once on Day at one, the Owen
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: one Panthers visit the one and oh, Brian Dable led
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: Giants Giants by two and a half. Yeah, I like
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: what they did. Say, Quan obviously looked good. I'm gonna
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: take the Giants and Brian Dable. Um, I can't pick Carolina.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's gonna end pretty soon with with
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: Matt rule there, so, yeah, Giants lay the points same,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: I will take the Panthers. I think the Giants were
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: very fortunate and they had something on their side that
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: I can't really talk about. That's the only reason why
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: they won. Why can't you talk about I had Tennessee
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: and knockout. Oh. I'll go with the Giants to win
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: this game Sunday at one oh No, we're gonna skip
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: over the Patriots um and we're gonna go to four
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: oh five. I thought they got rid of the four
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: oh five. I thought they did too. I believed you
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: last week. I guess not. I didn't um the Owen
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: one Falcons. Visit the Owen one ran the Rams by
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: ten and a half blowsers. That's a lot of points.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: It is a lot of points. Do you want to
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: lay them or not? I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Rams,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take the points. Why I'm gonna take
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: the Rams to win, I'm gonna switch it up or no, uh,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: Rams to win Rams eleven and a half decisive. I
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: am going to take the Rams both ways too. I
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: think they bounced back after a poor performance in the opener.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: Me too, Rams both ways four oh five one and
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: oh Seahawks at the and one forty nine Ers Noiners
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: by nine and a half. And we had a caller
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: who was very excited on this game about Gino Smith
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: going to San Fran. Uh. I am gonna take San
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: fran to win, but I'm gonna take those points from Seattle.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be close. I'm gonna do the same.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: I want to see, uh some chaos. Yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: take San Francisco both ways. I was not very impressed
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: with Seattle the other night. I thought Denver handed them
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: the game. I think this is a suckers bet. Forty
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: nine is win, but they don't cover. Okay. Uh. Four
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: twenty five The Owen one Bengals at the Owen one
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: Cowboys without Dak Prescott Bengals by seven and a half,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: seven and a half. And who and who is quarterbacking rush?
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: What is that? Yeah, I'm gonna take Minnesota last year.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Cincinnati. I'll lay the points. Bounce back
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: week for them. Yeah, Cincinnati to win, Cincinnati to cover. Yeah,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Cincinnati both ways too. I think they
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: bounced back me too. Cincinnati both ways. Four twenty five
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: The oo and one Texans at the Owen one Broncos
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: Broncos by nine and a half. Noine at home. Of course,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: this is your upset pick of the week for Duce.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: Can we Denver at home? They're at home? Yeah there,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: of course there. I'm gonna take Houston to win. I
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: don't worry. I'm gonna take Denver to win, but Houston
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: to cover. And I am going to do Denver both
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: ways and at least Fred to break the tie Denver
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: both ways. Okay. Four twenty five the Owen one Cardinals
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: at the one Raids Rates by five and a half,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: five and a hey, let's go Raiders. Josh lost a
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: close one in the division last week. I think they
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: bounced back get their first win. Yep, Vegas, Vegas. I'll
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: take Vegas both ways. I thought about taking the points,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: but the Cardinals just didn't look very good. Tyler Marie
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: just doesn't do it for me. He runs too much,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: little tips, a little silly man running fast. Yeah, I'm
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: gonna go with the Raiders as well. Although was there
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: criticism of the play calling by Josh McDonald. I heard
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: criticism from one place in one place only, and that
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: your favorite betting show on this hot side Lift Shafts
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: was like viscerated Josh McCoy targeting Davanta Adams like seventeen times.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, like the problem, He's like
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: a kidney candy stories I have and week in a row,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: the expert betting had the Patriots this week, um eight
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: twenty Sunday night on and be sure um is he's
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: still doing those games al Michaels. No, he's doing the
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: game tonight right right. I think it's al Michaels and
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Herb Street on the now and oh so I can't
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: remember anymore because al Michael doesn't hear Tarrico impression. That's
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: pretty good A little bit I have to work at
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: I'll work shop or shop Um bears one and but
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: I let it go Bears one and no at the
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: pack one pack bite nine and a half pack. Wow,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: nine and a half. That's a big number. But I
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: think Chicago stinks, So I'm gonna I'm gonna take the
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: pack and I'll lay those points. Yeah, I'm going with
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: green Bay. I think Aaron Rodgers is probably a little
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: embarrassed after last week, so I'm gonna take green Bay
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: across the board. Yeah, I'm gonna do that too. Um,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: they just maybe Chicago can't do anything against Rogers, seems
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: I am gonna take those points. Paul. Packers win, but
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: they do not cover at home. All right, Monday night
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: is a double header. I'm sorry you took Green Bay
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: and then you took Chicago to cover. Yep uh, Monday
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: night is a double header. The first one seven fifteen
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: on ESPN, the Owen One Titans visit the one in
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: Oh Bills Bills by ten. I'm definitely going Bills here. Yeah,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the points. I'm gonna lay
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: the points. Bills win. H Philly. Tennessee played has played
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: them tough recently, they've dominated. Yeah, Bills win, Tennessee covers. Yeah,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: I'm mad at Tennessee, so I'm just gonna take the
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: Bills to cover. I'm mad at rabel my boy, because
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: you get to me last week. Randy Bullock. I'll find
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: him like I find Lee Evan did it on purpose.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: I'll find Lee Evan someday and I'll find Randy Bullock
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: because that's the second year that Randy Bullock did that
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: to me. Folks, here's your upset of the way folks,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: Titans outright, Titans outright. I like it. I like the confidence.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, unlike his normal upsets. That's an upset. They're
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: getting ten points. That's an upset. Eight thirty, so they
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: didn't even wait for the other one to finish eight.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: They're ones on ESPN and on the one to know
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: Vikings at the one to know Eagles eggles by two. Yeah,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: this is Minnesota. I always got the wrong beat on them.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: I'll probably be wrong again, but I'm gonna take Philly.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: I'll lay the points Philly, Philly. Oh, I see what
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: you did there? Took me. It took me a second.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: The CTE again, we don't talk about that here. Here's
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  Speaker 1: my my wonder, Like, do I just allow Minnesota to
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: abuse me like they do every other year and then
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: do the opposite? You know what, screw it, I'm gonna
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: take Minnesota. I want to get hurt again. Yeah, I
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: want to be an abusive relationship. Yeah. I fear that
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be. I fear that I'm going to
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: be caught underrating the Eagles this year. I think the
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Eagles are very good, but I want to I'm gonna
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: pick them to get it out of my sister, and
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: if they screw me, then I'll on them. I think
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: the Eagles has some talent. I don't believe in the
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: passer Jalen Hurts, but it finds ways to win. So
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Eagles in that game. All right. Now,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: we go back to one o'clock on Sunday. Amazingly, we
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: have seven minutes to get this game and it's the
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: oh and one Patriots at the one and oh Steelers. Now, Paul,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: what's the handle? Okay? In this game? The spread is
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are favored by one and a half. I
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: know that we were talking about two a little bit.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: What I have, we're gonna go about one. What I
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: had this morning out of the paper was one and
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: a half. So that's what we're going with one and
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: a half. Patriots are favored. Didn't answer my question, what's
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  Speaker 1: the handle on this game? I don't know what that means.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: That means like the amount of money bet? How the
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: hell do I know? You don't know? It's got to
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: be in there. What do you think I'm taking books?
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  Speaker 1: Seven figures? Like? Is it a big handle? I don't know?
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: Probably what do you think I'm stay away from it,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: like Caesar's mean, how do I know what? How much
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: is one sharps? The sharps? No? And where's the money falling?
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like the offenses are kind of a wash
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: at this point, and I got to give the edge
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh defense. I agree with what everybody's been saying.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a's teens to teens kind
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  Speaker 1: of a game. I'm gonna go with Pittsburgh seventeen thirteen. Evan,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: you already said sixteen thirteen. I said seventeen thirteen Patriots.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: I like the Patriots in this game without t J Watt.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: I ain't at that really to I think t J
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: Watt we're playing the Patriots might put up negative yardage.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a coin flip game,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: and I think the fact that t J. Watt's not
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: playing in the game, I give it fifty Patriots winless.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna pick over that Patriots? We're doing scores
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: for this one too, right, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Patriots twenty one Pittsburgh fourteen. Okay, we're in the twenties, baby,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah. I work for the Patriots, so I
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: like the Patriots in this game. Um, I don't feel
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: great about it. I don't feel great about either team.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: I think the offenses are both bad. I think that
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: Wad injury is big for Pittsburgh. I don't think that
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: the Patriots turned the ball over multiple times again. And
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: if Pittsburgh needs to put drives together to score, I
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a lot more difficult than it
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: was for them to get to twenty last week sixteen
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: thirteen Patriots. I think it could go either way. You know,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: turn and overs obviously can can rec havoc on these games.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: I don't see either team mounting a lot of sustained
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: offense in this game. I think the Patriots will have
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: just enough to get by Nick Folk. Everybody, what's the
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: name of this new stadium now? It's nothin. Yeah. I
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: think the Steelers have a bad season and the fans
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: blame this name change on that. But anyway, I'm the
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: kind of analysis you can only find here on Patriots.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: This is a This turns out to be a get
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: right game for the Patriots. Um So I'm looking at
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: twenty seven ten Patriots win this game two stands alone. Yeah,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: I think the Sharps did know something. They didn't want
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: to go all the way with this spread, but I
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: think they did know something, and that's why the Patriots
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: are favored in this game. So you might be right
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: twenty seven ten. I might be right, but more likely
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong judge based on last week. So just keep
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: that in mind if you do tend to um, you know,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: bet on these game. Yeah, that the Pittsburgh offens or
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: performance last week sort of worried me in terms of
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: like their improvement. I still think Trubisky is better than
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Roethlisberger, but he really didn't do anything.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: He just kind of avoided mistakes and stayed out of
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: the way and they didn't move the ball all day. Yeah,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, as a result, you can't play like that.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: It looked a lot like the Patriots. I mean it's
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: just you know, and and and that's as I said
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: at the top, but it's like striking when you have
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: like Chase Claypool and like, you know, pieces that you're like,
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: they should be able to get the ball. I kind
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: of think of those guys as kind of like I
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: think they're good, Like I think Deanta Johnson's a good
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: slot guy. I like them a lot, yeah, but I
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: don't like think of them as game breaking kind of players.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: Do you think of Claypool? And I think maybe you're
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: a little higher on Clayton No. I mean I think
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: he had a couple of moments last year that maybe
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: skew the vision of them a little bit. You know.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: But and if I if I thought that like Nagi
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: Harris was looking in you know, good, yeah, that I'd say, well,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: he could be a factor. I think I think they
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: need to throw the ball to him more. Yeah, I
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: mean even the touchdown they threw Room was just like awkward,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: you know, similar Patriots stuff. All right, Well that's gonna
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. The John
• 1:58:19
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• 1:58:22
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• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: social ten FT five and then the post game immediately
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: following the game. Hopefully we won't have to take away
• 1:58:32
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