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Creepy People Chronicles: Headstones & Haunted Houses · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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  I'm glad you're not reading this one.
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  Oh my god.
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  Okay, I'm scared.
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  Okay.
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  I'm not usually like this.
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  I know.
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  I love it.
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  I pointed up and was like, I love that scary decoration of the man hanging from the banister.
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  We both gasped.
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  Probably just like that.
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  Hi, Caitlyn.
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  Hi, Cassie.
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  Hi, creepy people.
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  Hello.
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  If you're new to our creepy little corner of the world, this is little PNW Haunts and Homicides.
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  Everything's little today.
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  Where we chat about true crime, a little paranormal, little stories of little things, little spooky
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  stuff, creepy stuff, little and big stuff in the Pacific Northwest.
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  You know, PNW, if you're nasty.
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  And we know but you're nasty because you came here because you're here.
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  If you're not nasty, you might want to step out.
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  You may have chosen the wrong locale.
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  We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for a little bit of deeper insight
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  into our topic.
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  Sometimes an oracle reading, I think that's what we might do today.
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  Oh, really?
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  I want to play with a mushroom oracle deck that you got me.
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  Ooh, that does seem fitting.
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  Yeah.
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  I think so.
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  Okay.
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  I like to do oracle for creepy people chronicles.
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  The CPC, which is what this is.
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  I'm so excited.
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  We got some stories, y'all.
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  We got actually multiple, multiple.
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  Yes.
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  And this person DM'd and said, "I'm really sorry if Caitlyn accidentally reads this email.
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  Be for you guys.
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  Talk about it on the show."
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  There was a lot of warnings.
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  You missed all of the red flags, then I don't know what to say.
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  I know.
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  I was like, I didn't miss it in the subject line.
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  And even if I was curious, I feel like there were probably more warnings in the email itself.
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  They did their due diligence.
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  They DM'd us too though.
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  They were like, "Really though?
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  I've got.
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  I've got to stop her."
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  That's so cute.
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  I know.
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  I love it.
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  So I assume we do a permission to read it on air.
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  I haven't read the email.
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  Well, me neither.
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  So I guess we'll find out.
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  Yes, we're going to find out.
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  If you email us, okay, I guess we'll decide from the title.
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  But before we go into that story that we got emailed to us at
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  pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com.
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  I have a story.
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  I had the best morning ever.
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  Yeah.
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  Where were you, Cassie?
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  I was at the cemetery.
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  I went to Lone Fir Cemetery, which we've talked about episodes back.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't know how many.
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  Number.
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  Shhhhh.
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  That one.
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  We'll probably link it.
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  So anyway, I went to Lone Fir because I've just, I've never been.
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  I've been wanting to go forever, like forever and ever.
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  It looks really pretty.
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  Like why I live in the area.
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  Why I haven't.
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  I live in the area.
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  In the area.
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  Thereabouts.
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  Anyway, I've never gone.
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  So I went to help clean headstones.
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  So they do in the summertime.
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  They do headstone cleaning workshops.
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  It's like every couple of Saturdays.
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  I don't know the schedule, but it's on the website.
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  This is the only one I could make because Saturdays are recording day.
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  And it's just hard to get out and do things.
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  We had a bunch of shit to do.
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  So we have so much shit to do.
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  And the next one, yeah, we won't, I won't be able to make it either.
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  We won't be able to make it.
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  And that's the last one for the season.
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  So if you want to go, go look up.
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  There's one more in September.
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  I learned all about it.
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  It's not that hard.
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  You just like pour a bunch of water on and gently scrub.
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  So I cleaned like three little ground ones and then two bigger, bigger ones.
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  Okay.
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  Like sure, is if anyone wants them, I mean, personally, each one of you individually.
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  I mean, I feel like some of those might make it into the socials for sure.
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  Yeah.
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  So after we were done cleaning, I did talk to the head volunteer.
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  I think she does like most of the communications.
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  She said that she could probably get someone to come on the podcast and talk to us about
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  things.
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  Really?
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  Yeah.
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  Because I definitely, I like to verify my information.
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  Hell yeah.
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  I did pretty much get all of my information from like a loan for type site.
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  Yeah.
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  So I think everything was good except for one thing we'll talk about.
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  Oh, I'm not sure.
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  Okay.
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  I should have listened to the episode and like reviewed it.
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  Yeah.
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  So after we're done, I wanted to go naturally check out all the headstones that we talked
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  about.
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  So I went and found- [Loud Boom] oh, it's God it's thunder.
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  And we're going to have a thunderstorm today.
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  It was just a come later.
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  That's real.
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  That was terrifying.
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  Yeah, that's real.
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  I'm really glad that I was.
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  It was really close.
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  It was really close.
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  It was really close.
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  It was really close.
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  It was really close.
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  It was really close.
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  It was really close.
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  It was really close.
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  It was really close.
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  It was really close.
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  I bet the microphones picked that up.
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  Oh my God.
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  I saw your face.
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  Yeah, that was really close.
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  Oh my God.
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  That was like when we were in McMinnville for the batch.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Well, it looks like it's lasting a couple hours now.
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  So I'm glad I kind of, how do I get so calm in these situations?
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  It'll just add to the drama of the episode.
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  Yeah, I feel like if you couldn't see my face, you'd probably think that I was just normal.
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  I think it's, it's my face.
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  Your face just gives it away.
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  You know, some people have resting bitch face and mine just has like zero chill face.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like every thought, every feeling, it's just like, wow.
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  I'm interested to see my face because I don't, I feel like I didn't have a reaction, but
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  I might have.
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  I think I jumped a little bit.
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  I don't know.
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  I think that's why I immediately look to you because I think sometimes I'm like, well
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  I don't trust myself because I'm a hot dummy.
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  But I go and I'm like looking around like, did anybody else hear that?
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  What was that?
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  Did you do that too?
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  Was that just me?
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  Should I be scared?
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  And you're just like, you, honestly, I think your face was like, I thought, I don't know
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  if she heard that.
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  Was that just in my head?
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  Okay, well, at least now I know I'm not like hallucinating, lightening and thunder.
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  Yeah, no, you're not unless I am too.
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  And also the weather app.
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  Oh, I shared hallucination though.
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  That would be cool.
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  I'm glad I kept an eye on the weather because I was going to clean headstones, even though
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  I would have gotten in the rain.
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  But, and I think, ooh, thunder storms tonight.
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  So that's the only reason it was already in my brain as like thunder storms were coming
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  today.
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  Wow.
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  And they just came all early.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay, nature.
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  Can I get through my fucking story?
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  This was supposed to be quick.
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  No, both man and nature are against you.
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  Seriously.
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  Hi, where even was I?
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  Who knows?
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  So I wanted to walk around and look at all the headstones.
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  It's not like a huge cemetery, but it's pretty good size.
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  I sang a little, a couple steps in today.
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  Good, get your steps.
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  So I went and looked at the very creepy one of the husband and wife who were carved into
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  the, do you need a refresher?
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  Oh, I sent it to you.
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  It was the one I took a selfie with and sent it to earlier.
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  I think I just was like, oh, look, Cassie, so cute.
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  I'll show you the kind of far one.
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  Remember those guys?
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  Oh, yes.
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  Yes, I do.
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  I don't know why, but that is just so creepy to me.
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  Like, it's actually very sweet and it's objectively kind of cute, but it's also really,
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  it's really creepy.
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  It's creepy cute.
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  It's creepy cute.
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  I think we said that in the original episode, maybe.
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  Probably.
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  Yeah.
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  That is Elizabeth and James Stevens.
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  And oh, they have the cool quote on the back of like, we're here, we like here by consent.
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  And we were like, we need enthusiastic consent.
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  Oh, that's right.
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  I do remember that.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  And they use the word sojourning.
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  Yeah.
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  I love it.
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  It's so.
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  If you're curious about the quote, go listen to the original episode.
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  That's right.
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  So I visited them.
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  I went to Emore Stevens, which was like the first person buried there.
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  He's right next to them.
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  Wow.
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  I went to the Macleay, um, mausoleum, the big castle-y looking one.
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  I saw the Hawthorne monument.
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  Wow.
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  That's my mind is blown.
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  I know we talked about this.
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  And I've probably seen a lot of these pictures, not your pictures, but some exactly not your
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  pictures.
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  But those are just like they're, I mean, they're really, they're just remarkable.
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  I mean, it's just like, it's mind blowing to me.
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  I don't know why.
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  And it's kind of sad because they're all falling apart.
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  Like the Bottler brothers, they found theirs and it's still not.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  They got together from the roof caving in.
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  And then so the one I really wanted to see was Ada.
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  Or if you remember, she was the angel statue that I could stole it.
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  And I can't remember if I had said they found it and returned it or if it was still in storage
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  because I think it was still in storage.
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  Okay.
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  And it was not there and it made me so sad.
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  So this is a little a das.
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  There's only a foot of the angel left.
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  Oh.
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  I got people sad.
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  Barely read her name.
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  Like this is all zoomed in.
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  And we weren't in that area cleaning stones really.
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  And I didn't know where it was.
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  I went and found it afterwards.
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  But I really want to go back and like a roll scrub down.
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  Yeah.
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  But like the angels went there.
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  It's so sad.
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  Yeah.
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  And then I found play ball, Julius Caesar's.
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  Oh my God.
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  The head stuff.
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  Wow.
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  His looks like it's in pretty good shape.
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  I think it was cleaned recently.
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  Okay.
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  I feel like maybe someone can spider-tick her of it.
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  I don't know.
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  They have a little rose garden there with like bird baths and stuff.
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  Oh, that's cute.
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  And super interesting.
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  So I had my ghost tube on while I was walking around.
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  And I had went to the look at the roses and stuff and then I went and found a das.
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  And then when I was walking away, like leaving and the ghost tube said rose.
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  And I was like, oh, yeah, I was just over at the roses.
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  And then it fucking said like angel and play with me.
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  And I was like, no shit.
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  I really got the chills.
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  I have the chills right now.
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  And then I was walking away and I was like, okay, I'm leaving.
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  And it said goodbye.
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  And then it said don't leave.
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  And I was like, okay, and then that's kind of what reminded me to like say, okay, you have
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  to stay here.
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  And we'll come back and visit everyone's stay behind the gates.
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  Like do not follow me home.
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  I just like, I felt bad.
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  So the next time maybe I want to spend a little more time there.
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  I don't know maybe bring some toys or something and hang out with her.
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  Anyone want to go with me?
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  It's like a park.
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  Like a picnic.
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  It's a park for dead people.
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  I know you won't go.
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  Oh god.
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  No, I don't know what it is.
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  But I have always, like from a very, very young age, I have always been very uneasy if not
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  truly.
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  Yeah.
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  It runs the gamut.
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  Sometimes I'm truly terrified.
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  We talk about it.
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  I think because you can like feel the things.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Whereas I can like kind of block it out.
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  So it makes sense.
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  It makes sense.
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  We've talked about it.
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  You're too thirsty.
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  I'm not the only one who enjoys cemeteries.
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  Okay.
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  Because I met someone famous.
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  I met the squirrel guy, Rando.
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  He said he's the famous squirrel guy of Lone Fir Cemetery.
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  Stop it.
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  He was sitting there.
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  He has friends.
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  He like names them.
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  He brings little peanuts and they know him.
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  They come running to him.
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  He's like, they're my best friends.
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  He has crow friends too.
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  I'm just like, bro, this is where I'm headed.
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  I'm going to be the squirrel guy, Rando at the cemetery someday.
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  I love that.
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  I know it was very sweet.
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  I bothered him for a little bit.
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  He told me some stories and told me about him just loving to sit there and hang in there
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  and squirrels and how this place is so peaceful.
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  And I agree with you.
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  I love it here.
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  Doing squirrel guy stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  So that was cool.
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  I also met someone who was doing the cleaning of the stones.
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  Do I think her name was Victoria?
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  If I have that wrong, I apologize.
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  I really tried to remember your name.
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  But she heard me talking about the podcast was interested.
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  And then I was telling her about like, I'm going to block 14 to go check that out.
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  She's like, oh, what's that?
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  And I was like, I'll tell you.
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  And we went over there.
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  So we checked out block 14.
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  There's been no construction yet.
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  It's still ongoing.
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  I think you can vote on the designs now for the memorial garden.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Someone else came by and saw us looking at the sign and said that you can vote on designs.
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  So if anyone's interested in that, I'll link it.
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  Hopefully I can find it.
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  Yeah.
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  Because that would be cool.
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  So that means hopefully it's like, would start soon.
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  Yeah.
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  It's exciting.
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  It's also very eerie.
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  Okay.
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  Because there's signs on the fence.
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  I should pull it out.
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  I was going to say, I mean, I could have told you that.
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  So there's like a sign on the fence because it's fenced off.
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  And it says burial area.
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  Please stay outside chain.
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  Oh.
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  So it is kind of like eerie when you walk by all those signs that are like, this is a burial
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  area.
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  Don't just respect it even further than it already has been.
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  Seriously, like just don't be a dick.
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  Yeah.
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  So it was cool seeing all those things meeting so many different people.
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  Oh, and I signed up to they have nature journaling.
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  Oh, cute.
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  It's reminds me of outdoor school because we were going to go to the like journal in the
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  city in the nature and I signed up for one of those.
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  I'm excited to go to that.
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  And we're going to talk about our email from Jeannie.
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  Ooh.
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  Okay.
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  So title is spooky people chronicles.
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  She changed the name, I guess.
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  Okay.
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  Maybe we'll just officially change it to spooky people chronicles.
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  I mean, we're open to suggestion.
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  Creepy spooky same thing.
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  Also title.
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  Second part of the title says Caitlyn trigger warning.
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  Great.
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  In the title.
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  Should I just get my feet up here?
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  Get them up there.
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  All right.
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  All right.
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  All of them up there.
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  They all nice and tight.
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  Hello, Caitlyn and Cassie.
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  And I said it backwards.
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  This is Cassie and Caitlyn.
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  For some reason my brain likes to put you first.
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  So that's what it did.
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  That's so funny because I feel like whenever I type it out, I'm like, well, I don't want
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  it to always say Caitlyn first.
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  So I put your name first.
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  It is like alphabetically correct.
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  Yeah.
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  You're for yours to be first.
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  I guess tech.
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  Yeah.
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  Technically that's right.
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  So I think a, you know, I'm just going to listen.
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  We might have a power outage on our hands.
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  We don't have time for the ABC.
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  ABC.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  Have a listener.
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  I love your podcast.
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  Oh, thank you.
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  You are my commuting buddies.
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  Thank you for the laughs, the scares and the true crime entertainment.
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  I was wondering why I was so tired all the time.
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  It's all the driving.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's so much driving.
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  We're always on route.
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  We're on the go.
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  We're women on the go.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm a busy business lady.
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  So now it says Caitlyn, stop reading.
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  It's time for the three spooky happenings.
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  There have been more, but these three wiggled me out.
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  Okay.
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  So apparently like this was for you if you got into the email for you to stop reading,
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  but you're still going to have to sit here and listen to these stories.
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  Come from me.
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  Uh, Thunder in Lightning Storm.
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  Oh gosh.
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  Honestly, I have been so jealous of other podcasts that I've listened to and they live
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  in like the Midwest and they have really frequent thunder storms.
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  And sometimes you can hear it in their audio.
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  And I've been really jealous because I'm like, we've had so many like kind of weird spooky
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  things that we like our running joke now is pretty much like always be recording.
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  Yeah.
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  And I really, I'm like, I want it.
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  I want that Thunder Storm audio.
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  So you manifested the storm as what you're saying.
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  I mean, I've random summer storm Oregon.
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  I even thought about this in months.
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  This is not a recent thought that I've had.
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  It takes time.
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  Man, if it takes time, you guys, you don't know when it's going to happen.
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  I know, but don't you have to actively be like, no, set it and forget it.
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  You might have asked that shit and then you let it go and you don't think about it.
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  And then it comes true.
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  I did what you were supposed to do and it worked.
• 19:36
  This is just like proof.
• 19:39
  I cannot believe how loud it is.
• 19:41
  I'm going to be so disappointed if the mics are some reason.
• 19:45
  This is a loud.
• 19:46
  I don't think it'll pick this up.
• 19:48
  Maybe a little.
• 19:49
  Yeah, not like that first.
• 19:51
  That first one was like a closure.
• 19:53
  Okay.
• 19:54
  Oh my gosh.
• 19:55
  Okay, back to it.
• 19:56
  I just want to flashlight under my chin.
• 19:57
  I know.
• 20:00
  Story one.
• 20:01
  When I was in high school, I stayed overnight at a new friend's house.
• 20:05
  We were like 14 or 15.
• 20:07
  It was in the 80s.
• 20:08
  Ooh, we were just like the 80s earlier.
• 20:10
  Yeah.
• 20:11
  The fashion.
• 20:12
  The fashion.
• 20:14
  We had gone to a soccer game and had pizza for dinner.
• 20:18
  Everything was fine.
• 20:20
  It has a bunch of ease at the end.
• 20:23
  Fine.
• 20:24
  Listen, Jeannie.
• 20:25
  I don't believe you.
• 20:30
  Not for a second.
• 20:31
  No.
• 20:33
  I got up the next morning and went downstairs to have breakfast.
• 20:36
  I could hear her mom in the kitchen and smell breakfast.
• 20:40
  Ooh, I can smell it right now.
• 20:42
  I won't sit.
• 20:44
  It was an old house.
• 20:45
  I knew they inherited it from a great aunt.
• 20:48
  Oh, God.
• 20:49
  The dream.
• 20:50
  My God.
• 20:52
  When I got to the bottom of the stairs, I looked at the front sitting room.
• 20:56
  Are you ready?
• 20:57
  No.
• 20:58
  I've never been less ready.
• 21:02
  Can I just say I'm really impressed with my reading skills?
• 21:04
  Yeah, you're doing really good.
• 21:06
  Thank you.
• 21:07
  I would be so distracted right now because of the thunder.
• 21:11
  Obviously, I still am.
• 21:13
  I'm just not reading.
• 21:14
  So it makes me a better reader, I think.
• 21:16
  Oh, look at you.
• 21:18
  Are you ready?
• 21:19
  I'm ready for it.
• 21:20
  I think.
• 21:21
  Taylor.
• 21:22
  I should have brought the candle.
• 21:23
  Fuck.
• 21:24
  Wait, the candle.
• 21:26
  The Taylor candle.
• 21:27
  Oh, the Taylor candle.
• 21:28
  She'll make an appearance one day.
• 21:30
  Yeah, she'll be in here.
• 21:32
  There was a casket with an old lady in it.
• 21:34
  Flowers and chairs set up in the living room of their house.
• 21:38
  No, thank you.
• 21:39
  This is like my dream.
• 21:41
  I would love to have a funeral home.
• 21:44
  I think I'm going to have anxiety burps now.
• 21:48
  You see what you do to our people?
• 21:50
  Keep it coming.
• 21:51
  Honestly, the timing of this is just too much.
• 21:57
  Because number one, OK, you're out there cleaning gravestones
• 22:00
  today.
• 22:00
  And this is about--
• 22:02
  And then--
• 22:06
  Help me get my smile right now.
• 22:08
  Like I'm living today.
• 22:10
  I'm so happy.
• 22:13
  Do we need to stop?
• 22:14
  Do we need to stop to the day?
• 22:15
  And just like, you're killing a little less.
• 22:17
  Oh, you think you're going to traumatize me twice?
• 22:19
  Oh, oh, I think not.
• 22:23
  OK, so it's kind of like they have a funeral home, I guess.
• 22:26
  OK.
• 22:26
  Let me see.
• 22:27
  I could smell the flowers heavy in the air.
• 22:30
  I panicked and ran into the kitchen to my friend's mom.
• 22:34
  I was like, if I knew you were having a funeral or a wake
• 22:37
  in the house today, I would never have stayed legit.
• 22:43
  Yeah.
• 22:44
  I was kind of wondering that.
• 22:45
  Yeah.
• 22:46
  I'm sorry.
• 22:46
  I didn't know.
• 22:47
  Maybe I should go home.
• 22:48
  Sorry, it wasn't done reading your sentence.
• 22:50
  It seems like you're panicking, talking all of this,
• 22:53
  just spilling.
• 22:54
  I'm sorry.
• 22:55
  I saw this thing.
• 22:56
  You got to go home.
• 22:58
  I was really upset and agitated with this little thing.
• 23:01
  Yeah.
• 23:01
  No, it's a real Caitlin energy.
• 23:04
  She's a Caitlin-shaped hole out the wall.
• 23:07
  Her mom was like, what did you see?
• 23:11
  I told her-- I told her.
• 23:14
  [LAUGHS]
• 23:16
  Wait.
• 23:17
  I'm so--
• 23:18
  Why do you need her to describe it?
• 23:22
  Are you not seeing the lady with a casket?
• 23:26
  Are you not-- that whole situation?
• 23:28
  I think it's sinking in.
• 23:31
  OK, so she told her.
• 23:33
  She looked at me and said there hasn't
• 23:35
  been a funeral or a wake in this house since my great aunt died.
• 23:38
  Oh, and the thunder.
• 23:43
  Oh, no.
• 23:44
  Oh, good.
• 23:44
  Thunder roll.
• 23:45
  I was--
• 23:46
  [LAUGHS]
• 23:47
  Another lion instructs.
• 23:50
  Another love goes cold.
• 23:53
  Hit it.
• 23:54
  [LAUGHS]
• 23:55
  OK, anyway.
• 23:56
  Anyway.
• 23:58
  We're just trying to make this uncomfortable situation
• 24:00
  better by laughing.
• 24:01
  Yeah, let's make it more comfortable by being so uncomfortable.
• 24:07
  [LAUGHS]
• 24:08
  So Jeannie says, my friend wasn't even born at the time.
• 24:13
  She said, close your eyes and tell me everything you saw.
• 24:16
  I told her at all.
• 24:18
  We walked together into the sitting room.
• 24:21
  There was no casket and no flowers.
• 24:24
  The room was, as it had been the night before, totally normal.
• 24:29
  She showed me two different pictures of elderly ladies
• 24:32
  and asked me which one I saw.
• 24:35
  I immediately pointed to one which was the great aunt who
• 24:39
  had been dead for 20 years.
• 24:41
  OK, well, that's not how a proper lineup works, but I'll allow it.
• 24:45
  Oh.
• 24:46
  [LAUGHS]
• 24:48
  Although, apparently, not everyone will.
• 24:52
  Yeah, I think you need, like, at least four people in the lineup, right?
• 24:55
  Well, and you're not supposed to say which one of these was it?
• 25:00
  Also, I totally made up the four thing.
• 25:03
  It's way too suggestive.
• 25:06
  My grandma was half Native American and knew about the things
• 25:10
  I saw or knew.
• 25:12
  She told me not to tell the normal people
• 25:16
  or my brother because it would scare them, which
• 25:18
  is I think that a lot of the times, too.
• 25:20
  We can't tell the normal people this stuff.
• 25:22
  Yeah.
• 25:23
  The Normies.
• 25:25
  This happened in northern New England.
• 25:29
  Oh.
• 25:30
  So there was the first one.
• 25:32
  You ladies OK.
• 25:34
  Caitlin, you OK?
• 25:35
  I'm fine.
• 25:37
  I mean, the weather seems really upset about this story.
• 25:42
  That's all.
• 25:42
  I mean, I just--
• 25:45
  Oh my god.
• 25:46
  That's my concern.
• 25:47
  Are you an ex-man?
• 25:48
  Are you storm?
• 25:50
  You're emotional.
• 25:51
  I'm only just causing a storm.
• 25:53
  I'm just going to be a little bit more calm.
• 25:55
  I'm just going to be a little bit more calm.
• 25:57
  I'm just going to be a little bit more calm.
• 25:59
  I'm just going to be a little bit more calm.
• 26:01
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:03
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:05
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:07
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:09
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:11
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:13
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:15
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:17
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:19
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:21
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:22
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:24
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:26
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:28
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:30
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:32
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:34
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:36
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:38
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:40
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:42
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:44
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:46
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:48
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:50
  I'm just going to be a little bit calm.
• 26:51
  This is kind of surprised.
• 26:53
  The way that the mom reacted makes me think that maybe she did.
• 26:57
  Maybe she did.
• 26:59
  Maybe she did.
• 26:59
  Maybe she seen it before.
• 27:01
  She was just like, "Okay, tell me what you saw."
• 27:03
  I'm used to this.
• 27:05
  Yeah.
• 27:06
  It's either that she was seeing a residual type thing
• 27:09
  or she just casually slipped into a time warp.
• 27:13
  Okay.
• 27:14
  Yeah.
• 27:15
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:17
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:19
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:21
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:23
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:25
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:27
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:29
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:31
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:33
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:35
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:37
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:39
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:41
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:43
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:45
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:47
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:47
  She was walked into a little ripple in time.
• 27:48
  - Yeah.
• 27:49
  - Situation, but...
• 27:51
  - I also wonder if this house was,
• 27:53
  if it was, if you're in a real home
• 27:55
  or if they just did some of their families,
• 27:57
  - Like the way it acts. - the way the house is.
• 28:00
  - Yeah.
• 28:01
  - I'm curious to know.
• 28:02
  I don't know if you know that information
• 28:03
  since you never like stayed there again
• 28:05
  and you probably weren't one to like keep asking more questions.
• 28:09
  - Yeah, she's like,
• 28:09
  "Let's tell the information I need. Bye, forever."
• 28:12
  (kissing)
• 28:14
  "My uvers here."
• 28:15
  (laughing)
• 28:19
  (kissing)
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• 30:26
  So story two, two three.
• 30:31
  I got it, we're now we're just getting to two out of three.
• 30:34
  Okay, okay.
• 30:36
  Coastal North Carolina, 1994 or 1995.
• 30:40
  Wait, isn't North Carolina like really haunted?
• 30:42
  Yeah.
• 30:43
  Okay.
• 30:44
  What's it, Charlotte?
• 30:46
  Okay, Charlotte.
• 30:47
  I think that's how it's like old.
• 30:49
  Yeah, Savannah.
• 30:51
  Georgia is supposed to be like--
• 30:53
  But it's a place in North Carolina.
• 30:54
  Yeah, yeah.
• 30:55
  Okay.
• 30:56
  All right, I'm sure Savannah.
• 30:57
  Not, I just been to Savannah.
• 31:01
  Yeah, like kind of through it.
• 31:03
  We didn't link really stop and do anything,
• 31:04
  but it was a gorgeous--
• 31:06
  That's what I would do as well.
• 31:07
  (laughing)
• 31:09
  I wanted to stop all the trees.
• 31:11
  Oh, the Spanish beautiful.
• 31:13
  Yeah.
• 31:14
  Anyway.
• 31:15
  I made one.
• 31:16
  This was Coastal North Carolina, 1994 or 1995.
• 31:20
  Two weeks before Halloween, I worked with this fun
• 31:23
  social butterfly of a guy, a real peach ed.
• 31:27
  Ed?
• 31:28
  Yeah.
• 31:28
  We heard your peach.
• 31:30
  He asked me to help him take some things after work
• 31:32
  to a friend's house in the historic district of town
• 31:36
  for the haunted walk store.
• 31:39
  I had wanted to see the inside of this house
• 31:42
  and I had met his friend several times.
• 31:45
  We parked in the back and carried the stuff in.
• 31:47
  All was well for now.
• 31:49
  Okay, listen, we've already established
• 31:53
  that we don't believe you, but go on for now.
• 31:56
  We were in the kitchen in the back.
• 32:00
  His friend hugged me and thanked me.
• 32:02
  He was like, I'll give you a tour.
• 32:05
  Did Ed tell you my house is haunted?
• 32:07
  (laughing)
• 32:08
  I was like, yes, he did.
• 32:10
  Did he tell you I'm a witch?
• 32:13
  Oh my God.
• 32:14
  And I laughed about it.
• 32:15
  I was joking a little.
• 32:17
  There was another lady there who was helping
• 32:20
  set things up for the tours.
• 32:23
  She was a medium and not in size.
• 32:26
  (laughing)
• 32:27
  So a medium like psychic.
• 32:29
  I mean, like, talk to the day of.
• 32:31
  Yeah.
• 32:32
  I'm picking up what you're putting down.
• 32:35
  She was very watchful of me from the start.
• 32:38
  Ooh.
• 32:39
  Interesting.
• 32:40
  Okay.
• 32:41
  Wait, what did she know?
• 32:42
  (laughing)
• 32:44
  Too much.
• 32:46
  We walked down the hall to the foyer
• 32:48
  which had this cool staircase.
• 32:51
  Ooh.
• 32:51
  I like the Titanic staircase.
• 32:54
  Seriously.
• 32:55
  That is the beginning of my street of dreams.
• 32:59
  Love.
• 33:00
  What?
• 33:02
  Okay.
• 33:03
  What?
• 33:03
  Yeah.
• 33:04
  I'm like, what?
• 33:06
  Maybe we shouldn't read the rest.
• 33:08
  (laughing)
• 33:09
  I can do this.
• 33:10
  This whole thing is giving me like Hill House vibes.
• 33:14
  Okay.
• 33:15
  I don't know what that means.
• 33:16
  (gasping)
• 33:17
  It's because it's too scary for you to watch.
• 33:19
  Oh, fuck.
• 33:20
  We walked down the hall to this foyer
• 33:24
  which had this cool staircase.
• 33:26
  I pointed up and was.
• 33:29
  I think she wanted to say I was like, okay.
• 33:35
  You're talking like,
• 33:37
  is it, well, there's a missing word.
• 33:39
  I'm like you, I can't find brain things.
• 33:43
  Oh my God.
• 33:44
  It's as if I'm reading this story.
• 33:46
  I'm glad you're not reading this one.
• 33:48
  Oh my God.
• 33:49
  Okay.
• 33:50
  I'm scared.
• 33:51
  Okay.
• 33:52
  I'm not usually like this.
• 33:53
  I know.
• 33:54
  I love it.
• 33:55
  I pointed up and was like,
• 33:59
  I love that scary decoration of the man hanging
• 34:02
  from the banister.
• 34:03
  (screaming)
• 34:05
  We both gasped.
• 34:07
  Probably just like that.
• 34:09
  They both.
• 34:10
  The medium walked away I was standing.
• 34:14
  She said, do you like him?
• 34:15
  What was he wearing?
• 34:17
  I described this man in a colonial style.
• 34:21
  In colonial style clothes except he was in stalking feet.
• 34:26
  Oh, like he was not barefoot.
• 34:29
  He was like in his stalking feet.
• 34:31
  Yeah.
• 34:32
  That's what they didn't really,
• 34:33
  they didn't have socks.
• 34:36
  Okay.
• 34:37
  They had like stockings.
• 34:38
  I said, did his shoes keep falling off the mannequin?
• 34:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:44
  Yeah.
• 34:45
  Yeah.
• 34:46
  At the end.
• 34:49
  Yay!
• 34:51
  Yay!
• 34:52
  My friend Ed was quite pale and afraid.
• 34:57
  He's not peaching anymore.
• 34:59
  He's not a peach?
• 35:00
  He's one of the white peaches.
• 35:01
  (laughing)
• 35:02
  The pale ones.
• 35:03
  They're tasty.
• 35:05
  His friend gave a nervous laugh.
• 35:08
  The medium was like, okay, I want you to turn around
• 35:11
  and face the door and then turn back around and look up.
• 35:16
  I did and the hanging man was gone.
• 35:18
  Oh, gone.
• 35:19
  I was like, this is just gonna be exactly like that.
• 35:22
  Okay.
• 35:23
  I asked who moved him.
• 35:25
  How did they do it so fast without me hearing or seeing them?
• 35:28
  Uh-huh.
• 35:29
  Lotical.
• 35:30
  Lotical thing to ask.
• 35:31
  Jeannie, I have bad news about that.
• 35:34
  The owner of the house said, there was no mannequin hanging there.
• 35:38
  (screaming)
• 35:41
  And then he said, I need a drink.
• 35:43
  (laughing)
• 35:45
  Yeah.
• 35:46
  Yeah.
• 35:47
  Take a drink.
• 35:47
  Gonna need a refill.
• 35:48
  We went into the sitting room.
• 35:53
  Not the sitting room.
• 35:54
  Sitting rooms are bad for you.
• 35:56
  Yeah.
• 35:57
  We went into the sitting room where he had a bar car
• 36:00
  and he poured us all brandy.
• 36:02
  Okay, take it back.
• 36:03
  Go to the sitting room.
• 36:04
  Can I come over?
• 36:04
  (laughing)
• 36:06
  I was all, I don't drink.
• 36:08
  And he was like, you need this.
• 36:10
  Yeah, that's a real bummer in this situation.
• 36:14
  No judgment, but.
• 36:15
  So let me tell you the backstory of this house.
• 36:19
  The original builder built this house
• 36:22
  and the one next door.
• 36:25
  They were shipping merchants.
• 36:27
  His son and his family lived in this house.
• 36:29
  The son was away for business
• 36:31
  and his wife and two children died of yellow fever.
• 36:35
  Is it hailing?
• 36:37
  Yeah.
• 36:37
  Okay, we gotta get a picture of this
• 36:41
  because this is the weird organ weather that we speak of.
• 36:45
  So it was the original builder's son who lived in this house
• 36:50
  and his son was away for business
• 36:55
  when his wife and two children died of yellow fever.
• 36:58
  Oh my God, we see a way on real business
• 37:01
  or fake business.
• 37:03
  I hope it was real business.
• 37:05
  Business.
• 37:07
  But right when I was saying that
• 37:08
  is like when the hill storm happened, crazy.
• 37:12
  Oh my God.
• 37:13
  They had to be buried before he returned home
• 37:16
  because of the heat.
• 37:17
  I mean, that makes sense.
• 37:20
  So he returned home from his business trip
• 37:24
  to learn that his family had died.
• 37:26
  He was destroyed by it.
• 37:28
  So he didn't even know until he got home.
• 37:30
  Oh my God.
• 37:31
  By the way, your entire family is dead
• 37:33
  and we've already buried them.
• 37:36
  Jesus.
• 37:37
  Yeah, I would be destroyed.
• 37:38
  I can't.
• 37:39
  His family was worried about his mind.
• 37:43
  So his sister and husband moved in with him
• 37:45
  while he was mourning.
• 37:47
  That's good of them.
• 37:49
  I mean, probably for the best.
• 37:53
  I like for God at the beginning of this
• 37:56
  and I just remembered.
• 37:58
  Oh no.
• 38:00
  Yeah.
• 38:01
  Oh no.
• 38:02
  On the night of his wife's birthday,
• 38:06
  after everyone had gone to bed,
• 38:10
  he went out in his stalking feet
• 38:14
  because he didn't want his sister to hear him
• 38:17
  or his husband or sorry, his sister
• 38:20
  or her husband to hear him.
• 38:22
  He, oh God.
• 38:23
  And hung himself on the third floor banister.
• 38:27
  (sniffing)
• 38:28
  - Brociss.
• 38:29
  (sighs)
• 38:30
  - Shit.
• 38:30
  I blurred it out.
• 38:33
  Fuck me.
• 38:34
  - Yeah. - Yeah.
• 38:37
  That's fair.
• 38:37
  - The medium was like, that's what you saw.
• 38:40
  - Yeah.
• 38:41
  No, it's okay.
• 38:42
  We're familiar with French.
• 38:44
  Shit, dude.
• 38:45
  That's so sad.
• 38:48
  That's awful.
• 38:50
  That poor man.
• 38:52
  - Yeah, the birthday, that would be really hard.
• 38:55
  So hard.
• 38:56
  That means her birthday was right around the corner.
• 38:58
  Like I wonder if he planned his trip around her birthday.
• 39:03
  Like to be home for her birthday.
• 39:05
  - Oh.
• 39:06
  Yeah, I don't know how long after.
• 39:08
  - Yeah.
• 39:09
  - After this was.
• 39:10
  - Oh.
• 39:12
  Yeah, it seems like it would be pretty close
• 39:14
  'cause I don't know, it could have been like,
• 39:16
  then like almost a year later or whatever.
• 39:20
  - Yeah.
• 39:21
  - Based on the thunder claps.
• 39:23
  - I'm gonna say we're on to something.
• 39:26
  Uffta.
• 39:27
  - Now you think after this,
• 39:29
  I would have left the building screaming.
• 39:32
  - Yeah.
• 39:33
  - I did fact check this story at a later date
• 39:36
  and it was true.
• 39:37
  I did not leave.
• 39:38
  I finished the tour.
• 39:40
  I would finish.
• 39:42
  - Okay.
• 39:42
  My eye twitch has been activated.
• 39:45
  So, sorry about it, but like this is what happens.
• 39:49
  Do you see?
• 39:50
  Do you see?
• 39:51
  - Do you see the twitch and--
• 39:52
  - Oh God.
• 39:54
  My friend Ed was like,
• 39:55
  I won't sleep over because I'm spooked by this house's vibe.
• 39:59
  He went upstairs and on one of the beds was a doll.
• 40:03
  Yes, a freaking doll.
• 40:09
  An old-fashioned porcelain doll.
• 40:12
  - Mm.
• 40:13
  - And I looked at my friend's friend and said,
• 40:16
  this spooky beautiful house, of course,
• 40:19
  needs a haunted looking doll on a bed.
• 40:21
  - It doesn't need that.
• 40:23
  - All the house is needed.
• 40:26
  - It's already haunted enough.
• 40:28
  - Oh, stop it.
• 40:29
  Oh, stop it.
• 40:30
  He looked at me and said there is no doll on the bed.
• 40:34
  What?
• 40:35
  Okay, did not see that coming.
• 40:37
  - The only thing worse than a creepy doll
• 40:41
  is a creepy doll haunting.
• 40:44
  - Is it a ghost of the doll?
• 40:48
  Or...
• 40:49
  (sighs)
• 40:51
  - I don't know, oh my gosh, okay.
• 40:54
  I didn't see that coming.
• 40:55
  I was like shocked.
• 40:56
  - I just-- - I just--
• 40:57
  - Yeah, I just-- - Honestly,
• 40:58
  I don't wanna see that coming.
• 40:59
  I don't wanna see it coming or going.
• 41:02
  That's where I met.
• 41:03
  (sighs)
• 41:05
  Gonna plug my phone in in case we lose power.
• 41:08
  It's not moving away from us.
• 41:13
  - I shit you not.
• 41:13
  When I looked back again,
• 41:15
  there was no dandall on the bed.
• 41:17
  - Well, great.
• 41:18
  So now you are fine.
• 41:21
  Now everything is fine.
• 41:23
  He said, "I have two dolls in my room
• 41:28
  on a chest of drawers.
• 41:30
  When I saw those dolls, they were not the doll I saw."
• 41:34
  Okay, that's good, maybe.
• 41:35
  - Okay.
• 41:36
  - I looked at the medium and said was his daughter's--
• 41:40
  - Oh!
• 41:41
  - Yeah.
• 41:42
  - I looked at the medium and said that was his daughter's room,
• 41:44
  wasn't it?
• 41:46
  I feel like she has like flashing back in his time
• 41:49
  like having time warps.
• 41:50
  - And listen, this is positive
• 41:53
  because otherwise we're looking at more of a chucky situation
• 41:57
  which is that, that's my true trigger.
• 42:00
  - So this is the daughter.
• 42:01
  - That's just there because it was a little girl's room.
• 42:03
  - It was loved.
• 42:04
  - And she wanted her to see her beloved doll
• 42:08
  and the room the way it was.
• 42:09
  - That's just like that.
• 42:11
  It's an old mad TV sketch where he's like,
• 42:14
  "Well, what I didn't do."
• 42:16
  (laughing)
• 42:17
  - Old, oh my God.
• 42:19
  - I mean, I've only seen that on reruns.
• 42:21
  - Do it. - And basically a fetus.
• 42:23
  - Do it. - Do it.
• 42:24
  - Let me do it.
• 42:27
  Let me do it.
• 42:28
  - So the medium nodded yes to the question
• 42:31
  of what's at the daughter's room.
• 42:33
  At this point, I did not know the sex of these children,
• 42:36
  a girl and a boy.
• 42:38
  Then, oh, he said--
• 42:41
  - There was more than one child.
• 42:42
  - Yeah, there was, yeah, two children.
• 42:44
  - Oh, really?
• 42:46
  - Yeah, his wife and children passed it, so.
• 42:49
  Oh, God. - Oh, okay.
• 42:51
  - That's awful. - Okay.
• 42:52
  - Okay. - Shh.
• 42:53
  - He then told me about what he hears at night
• 42:56
  and he's seen some things.
• 42:58
  I've seen some things.
• 42:59
  - Yeah. - Yeah.
• 43:01
  - Yeah.
• 43:02
  - I was like, "You need to get a colonial style,
• 43:07
  "porsche and doll and put it on the bed."
• 43:09
  And the medium said, "See, I told you the same thing."
• 43:13
  So they both had told him.
• 43:14
  So she was like a medium too.
• 43:16
  Maybe that's part of her medium. - Okay.
• 43:18
  - She just sees it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:21
  Okay. - Interesting.
• 43:22
  - I mean, could your medium should be
• 43:27
  that you just feel stuff?
• 43:29
  - Yeah, there's different layers. - There's like,
• 43:32
  - like, clairvoyant, clair audience.
• 43:34
  Like, when you hear things, - Ah!
• 43:37
  - Interesting. - The other ones,
• 43:38
  I don't know the other. - I get mad.
• 43:40
  - I don't know. - I don't know.
• 43:41
  - I don't know, shit.
• 43:42
  - I don't look into shit about shit
• 43:44
  because I'm scared of that shit.
• 43:45
  - Google the layers.
• 43:47
  - I mine is annoying because I just know things
• 43:52
  and that's really annoying because I gaslight myself constantly.
• 43:55
  I trick myself and don't say that
• 43:57
  'cause it's like not true.
• 43:59
  Just like don't say it.
• 44:00
  And then someone else will say it.
• 44:01
  And I'll be like, "Fuck, I was gonna say that
• 44:03
  and then no one's ever gonna believe me."
• 44:06
  - Yeah, yeah. - I'm trying, I'm trying.
• 44:07
  - You're like suppressing it because you're like,
• 44:09
  I don't know, that's, is that a weird thing to say?
• 44:12
  - How would I ever know that?
• 44:13
  - Yeah, how could I possibly know that?
• 44:15
  He heard boots walking in the halls pacing.
• 44:18
  - I don't like that. - He had heard
• 44:20
  the noise of ropes creaking, children laughing
• 44:23
  and also crying.
• 44:25
  - Also, no.
• 44:26
  - He saw multiple times a,
• 44:29
  this is Caitlin's word, a visit.
• 44:32
  (laughing)
• 44:33
  - I like to-- - I'm a lady sitting in a chair
• 44:36
  looking out the window, holding the curtain open
• 44:39
  with her hand.
• 44:40
  - Ooh.
• 44:41
  - It was like, there is zero chance I'd live here
• 44:43
  or sleep over.
• 44:44
  - Zip. - Yeah.
• 44:45
  - Zero.
• 44:47
  - That's fair.
• 44:48
  That's the appropriate response.
• 44:50
  - Okay, I said nope several times,
• 44:52
  so I'm gonna need everyone to drink.
• 44:55
  - Drink up.
• 44:56
  - We did sit it out in his garden
• 44:59
  and have refreshments after all of this.
• 45:01
  I was invited back.
• 45:02
  I was like, nope.
• 45:04
  (laughing)
• 45:07
  - Well, listen to them rules.
• 45:11
  They do a candlelight Christmas tour as well.
• 45:14
  I wanna go.
• 45:16
  - Okay, that does sound cool.
• 45:17
  - Yeah, it does sound cool.
• 45:20
  - I was pretty done at this point
• 45:22
  and I'd had a headache.
• 45:24
  - Oh no.
• 45:25
  The medium said a cleansing per-over-me.
• 45:28
  I never went back to that house, ever, never, ever.
• 45:31
  Get more wine.
• 45:33
  (laughing)
• 45:35
  - Thank you for the wine reminders.
• 45:36
  - Yeah, that's really helpful.
• 45:38
  - It is.
• 45:40
  - Okay, so that's the end of that story.
• 45:42
  - Oh my God.
• 45:43
  - All right, are you ready for Genie's third story?
• 45:46
  Third time as a charm.
• 45:48
  - I was thinking that.
• 45:49
  - I think what they say.
• 45:50
  - Or say kick.
• 45:51
  - Or just Irish.
• 45:54
  (laughing)
• 45:56
  - Or just literally say that all of the time.
• 45:58
  - Yeah.
• 45:59
  (whistling)
• 46:02
  - If you haven't, nope, right out yet.
• 46:06
  Here we go.
• 46:08
  I am back in Northern New England.
• 46:10
  It is early 1990s before we lived in North Carolina.
• 46:14
  My former mother-in-law's house was haunted,
• 46:17
  or so they claimed, while I was dating my ex-husband,
• 46:21
  I didn't see her here anything.
• 46:24
  The old basement was creepy.
• 46:26
  - Mm-hmm.
• 46:27
  - As they tend to be.
• 46:28
  - Well, against creepy or this one.
• 46:30
  - Okay.
• 46:31
  - They show me. - They show me.
• 46:32
  - They show me.
• 46:32
  - They're the feedback of,
• 46:33
  'cause my daughter's going again.
• 46:34
  - You're not going to like this.
• 46:36
  - I think I'm so excited.
• 46:38
  Yay for me.
• 46:39
  - Don't make that face.
• 46:41
  - Hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 46:42
  Hold on, this is crazy.
• 46:44
  Weird.
• 46:45
  Okay, this is weird.
• 46:46
  (laughing)
• 46:47
  Okay.
• 46:48
  They showed me a stone they found that resembled a grave stone.
• 46:53
  We called him Mr. Smith.
• 46:55
  - Just for for...
• 46:56
  - Stop it.
• 46:57
  - Do you wanna know the name on one of the headstones
• 47:00
  I cleaned today?
• 47:01
  - Take just like a wildest guess.
• 47:04
  - Well, it is the most common last name in the history of ever.
• 47:09
  - But still, that's weird.
• 47:12
  - I cleaned a headstone that was Alfred Smith.
• 47:15
  Alfred?
• 47:16
  Alfred?
• 47:17
  - Alfred Smith.
• 47:18
  - Mr. Smith.
• 47:20
  - Mr. Smith.
• 47:22
  - How did it like, I didn't read this.
• 47:23
  I didn't know I was going to be cleaning a Smith headstone.
• 47:26
  - And literally talking about Mr. Smith's head,
• 47:28
  this is weird.
• 47:30
  I know it's a common name, but still.
• 47:31
  - Yeah, no, I mean you're right.
• 47:33
  'Cause honestly, who could have predicted
• 47:37
  that we would be reading this story
• 47:40
  on the day that you went and cleaned headstones?
• 47:44
  'Cause obviously, you know, I don't read these in advance.
• 47:48
  - Yeah.
• 47:49
  - 'Cause I'm only gonna do this shit once.
• 47:52
  (laughing)
• 47:53
  - Well, I mean theoretically, I could have pre-read this
• 47:56
  when I went, I'm gonna find a Smith headstone,
• 47:59
  but like, I didn't.
• 48:01
  - I know, well lately we've kind of been trying
• 48:04
  to do more of a cold reading with them.
• 48:07
  - I like it better.
• 48:08
  - Yeah.
• 48:09
  - Yeah.
• 48:10
  - 'Cause then I'm surprised, I'm not an actress, okay.
• 48:13
  That was like a real surprise shock on my face, you guys.
• 48:17
  - No, didn't we already talk about how the feelings,
• 48:19
  they just like happened on the face.
• 48:22
  - Okay.
• 48:23
  - So anyway.
• 48:24
  We called him Mr. Smith.
• 48:26
  - They said they moved it once out of the area
• 48:29
  and all sorts of bad things happened
• 48:31
  until they put it back in that area.
• 48:34
  It is a dirt and stone floor
• 48:37
  in that old corner of the basement.
• 48:40
  - Uh-huh.
• 48:42
  - It's typical of the area
• 48:44
  and original age of the house.
• 48:46
  - So how?
• 48:47
  - To have like those kinds of floors, I guess.
• 48:49
  - Very old.
• 48:50
  - The house had been extensively remodeled
• 48:52
  and added on to, so they could have built on overtop
• 48:56
  of someone's grave and they could have not known, you know.
• 48:59
  - No, they would never do that.
• 49:01
  - Mm-hmm.
• 49:02
  - Yeah, for eight, they would never.
• 49:03
  - They would never happen to that.
• 49:05
  - That's not a thing.
• 49:07
  You don't pay over grave stones
• 49:10
  and put it parking lots.
• 49:11
  - Huh.
• 49:12
  - Is that the song?
• 49:13
  - It's no, it's a cemetery.
• 49:15
  - Paradise.
• 49:16
  - It's a parking lot.
• 49:17
  - Not, it has nothing to do with cemeteries, how dare you.
• 49:20
  - It does now.
• 49:22
  We had moved back to the area.
• 49:24
  I went down into the basement alone, which I hated.
• 49:27
  - Why?
• 49:28
  - To get a roast for her former mill, mother and law.
• 49:32
  - Am I out?
• 49:33
  Am I out?
• 49:34
  - How about I set it wrong?
• 49:35
  Mother and law, mill, if you're nasty.
• 49:38
  - If you're nasty.
• 49:39
  (laughing)
• 49:40
  - There is a creaky door at the top of the stairs
• 49:44
  and the light switch is inside the door.
• 49:46
  I had to close the door at the top of the stairs
• 49:48
  behind me, which is unsettling.
• 49:51
  - Uh-huh.
• 49:52
  - I am digging around in the chest freezer,
• 49:54
  looking for the roast, when all of the overhead
• 49:58
  lights went out.
• 49:59
  - No.
• 50:00
  - How freak would it be if the power went out right now?
• 50:03
  - Oh my God.
• 50:04
  - Fucking divorce.
• 50:06
  - Okay, I know, obviously, from context,
• 50:09
  this is your ex-husband.
• 50:10
  - Maybe this is why.
• 50:11
  - Yeah.
• 50:12
  - She's like, "Divorce!
• 50:14
  Divorce, too much bad energy.
• 50:16
  - Yeah.
• 50:17
  - Divorce.
• 50:17
  The door at the top of the stairs never opened
• 50:20
  and the other switch I could see.
• 50:23
  The house's power breaker was within my line of sight.
• 50:26
  I tried to reason out of why the overhead lights were out.
• 50:31
  I am holding the roast and holding the freezer open
• 50:34
  because it was the only light on down there.
• 50:37
  Oh.
• 50:37
  - Okay.
• 50:38
  - So I got the roast in the door.
• 50:40
  - Yeah.
• 50:42
  - That's not gonna be very much light.
• 50:44
  - She freaking throws a roast at this ghost.
• 50:47
  I'm gonna die.
• 50:48
  I'm gonna die.
• 50:49
  - Is she gonna throw a roast?
• 50:51
  - I don't know, I really hope so.
• 50:52
  I hope so.
• 50:53
  I'm trying to find my spot, so I can keep reading.
• 50:56
  - Okay.
• 50:58
  But what if the ghost makes the roast taste weird?
• 51:03
  - Like it goes through the ectoplasm taste on it?
• 51:08
  - Yeah, it tastes like sulfur.
• 51:10
  Oh, that would be a demon.
• 51:12
  But you know, what it's like.
• 51:13
  - It could be a demon in the basement.
• 51:14
  - Could it be?
• 51:16
  That's a very demony place.
• 51:17
  - But if there was a headstone down there,
• 51:20
  it's probably a person.
• 51:21
  Okay.
• 51:22
  I don't know.
• 51:23
  She's holding this frozen roast.
• 51:26
  - Can the freezer open?
• 51:28
  She goes, "Lost my temper, I started yelling at Mr. Smith.
• 51:33
  If I break and fall my neck,
• 51:34
  trying to get this light switch,
• 51:36
  my dying words will be very me next to Mr. Smith.
• 51:40
  And you will be stuck with me for all of you turning in.
• 51:44
  The light suddenly came back on, so it worked.
• 51:48
  You just yell at him and tell him what's going on.
• 51:50
  - What?
• 51:51
  - Don't it.
• 51:51
  That was funny.
• 51:52
  - Yeah, definitely first step.
• 51:54
  Tell the ghost what you want.
• 51:56
  They say again, the door to the stairs was never opened.
• 52:00
  So they went shaking out of the basement.
• 52:03
  But I now knew how to handle Mr. Smith.
• 52:06
  - I met you, Dan.
• 52:06
  - So did Angelina.
• 52:07
  - I was just shut the fuck up.
• 52:11
  - Mr. and Mrs. Smith?
• 52:13
  - We're like on the same brain way.
• 52:15
  - We actually just have the one brain.
• 52:18
  Like just one of us is borrowing half of it.
• 52:22
  - From time to time.
• 52:23
  - Yeah.
• 52:24
  - That's what happens.
• 52:24
  - Yeah, I feel like that's why--
• 52:26
  - I feel like that's why--
• 52:26
  - Don't when I leave.
• 52:27
  (laughing)
• 52:29
  I was like, that's why sometimes when we're together,
• 52:31
  we're like, "Bro, whoa."
• 52:33
  'Cause we know things.
• 52:34
  How do we know?
• 52:35
  (laughing)
• 52:37
  - I have several stories about that house and him.
• 52:41
  I am no longer part of that family and the house was sold.
• 52:45
  I sure hope he's nice to the new owners.
• 52:47
  - Oh my gosh.
• 52:48
  - I should have left a little sticky note on the stone
• 52:51
  thing.
• 52:52
  Don't move me.
• 52:53
  Just be firm with me.
• 52:55
  Tell me what you want.
• 52:57
  So she says, "I did research on him."
• 53:00
  He was buried two towns away.
• 53:02
  He did survive the Civil War and lived for years after.
• 53:07
  But are you ready for this?
• 53:09
  The part of North Carolina where we ended up living for a time was the area where he fought
• 53:15
  and was stationed and possibly was a prisoner of war there.
• 53:19
  - Stop it.
• 53:20
  - Is it a coincidence?
• 53:21
  I don't know.
• 53:22
  So sure.
• 53:23
  - Yeah, me either.
• 53:26
  - Have a creepy ass day.
• 53:28
  Big hug.
• 53:29
  - Jeannie.
• 53:30
  - So was his name actually Smith though?
• 53:33
  If you researched.
• 53:34
  - I don't know.
• 53:37
  - Mr. Smith.
• 53:38
  Oh wow.
• 53:39
  Okay.
• 53:40
  Yeah.
• 53:41
  That was super interesting.
• 53:42
  - Yeah.
• 53:43
  - 'Cause you didn't see anything that time that like disappeared.
• 53:45
  It was.
• 53:46
  - Yeah, that's interesting.
• 53:47
  Yeah.
• 53:48
  - It was the lights were on the old time and you just slipped into the past where there was
• 53:53
  no electricity.
• 53:54
  - That's like the fucking twilight zone.
• 53:57
  No thank you.
• 53:58
  - What if that's what happened?
• 54:00
  - I don't believe it.
• 54:01
  - No.
• 54:02
  I don't.
• 54:03
  - You're just like anything you were touching went with you to the past.
• 54:06
  - Thank you.
• 54:07
  - So like the freezer and the roast.
• 54:09
  - Nope.
• 54:11
  - She's the one that DMmed me just briefly as an aside.
• 54:16
  She said, "Hey ladies, for a couple months on my Spotify, I couldn't see any new episodes.
• 54:22
  The absolute horror."
• 54:24
  - What the heck?
• 54:26
  - I know.
• 54:28
  Today I logged out and back in and saw all the episodes I need to catch up on.
• 54:36
  I was also following you and it said, "I wasn't."
• 54:41
  If you lost listeners, something weird happened.
• 54:45
  - Yeah, I think everyone fucking, everyone's fucking with shit.
• 54:50
  - Yeah.
• 54:51
  Yeah, between the Apple, Shanaean again, and then I was like, "Oh, I wasn't aware of the
• 54:57
  Spotify stuff being like, like this is crazy."
• 55:02
  I had heard there have been some weird buggy stuff with Spotify around, I think kind of a
• 55:07
  similar timeframe, but holy fucking shit.
• 55:13
  She says, "It didn't happen to others that I listened to."
• 55:16
  - They're probably paying for that.
• 55:20
  - Needless to say, you ladies will be my co-pilots for my commute.
• 55:27
  I can't wait to catch up.
• 55:30
  Thank you for all the episodes.
• 55:31
  - With a kissy face.
• 55:35
  - Thank you.
• 55:36
  - In case we were like, what's more?
• 55:39
  - I'm gonna sound it out and I'm a visual learner.
• 55:43
  I appreciate that you appealed to all of the potential learning styles essentially.
• 55:53
  She was like, "I didn't touch you," and say, "Wah."
• 55:57
  I guess that's the one, maybe.
• 55:59
  - Covet safe.
• 56:00
  - Yeah, exactly.
• 56:02
  Okay, so I had responded and let her know.
• 56:04
  I was like, "Wow, wasn't super aware that things were going awry with Spotify?"
• 56:12
  So that's great.
• 56:14
  - Great.
• 56:15
  - You know, Tony, the Tiger style.
• 56:18
  - All those festivals.
• 56:19
  - Yeah.
• 56:20
  - All the things that we did.
• 56:23
  Yep.
• 56:24
  But we're meeting new people every day and telling them about our podcast.
• 56:27
  - Yeah.
• 56:28
  - And you are too.
• 56:29
  - It's true, right?
• 56:30
  - Do it.
• 56:31
  Please.
• 56:32
  For the love of God.
• 56:33
  - I would make her hands, but I'm scared the computer will freeze.
• 56:36
  - I know, yeah, we couldn't do it.
• 56:38
  - I'm trauma-dumbed.
• 56:39
  - We have to not use our hands.
• 56:42
  And so then this is about a week after the wedding.
• 56:45
  I got a DM from Jeannie saying, "Ladies, I sent you an email of three of my creepy stories.
• 56:54
  Make sure Caitlin doesn't read them first."
• 56:58
  I put a warning on them, have some wine and buckle up.
• 57:03
  Big hugs.
• 57:04
  Keeps staying spooky.
• 57:06
  Goose emoji.
• 57:07
  - Oh.
• 57:08
  - And I said, "Ha ha, I saw it.
• 57:11
  Good thing I read the subject.
• 57:13
  So much wine."
• 57:15
  So excited to read them.
• 57:17
  Send us your address if you would like some stickers.
• 57:20
  And she did.
• 57:21
  I'm not going to read you her address.
• 57:23
  - She's really upset.
• 57:24
  - Yeah.
• 57:25
  Hello you guys.
• 57:26
  - You're in the mood.
• 57:27
  - True crime.
• 57:28
  What kind of a host would I be?
• 57:30
  A bubba.
• 57:31
  - So you can trust us with your address if you would like stickers for your stories.
• 57:36
  Just give us your address and we won't share it with people because we're that trustworthy.
• 57:40
  - We're so trustworthy.
• 57:41
  - We won't even sell it to like a mailing list company for money.
• 57:45
  You know, that we're desperate.
• 57:47
  - Honestly, we don't have enough of your addresses for it to be worth their time.
• 57:51
  One more thing I'm going to read that Jeannie said, "When these things happened or happened
• 57:58
  I used to be much more spooked and freaked out by it."
• 58:02
  Now I'm like, "Okay.
• 58:06
  What do you have to tell me?
• 58:08
  Because I hate to say you get used to it, but you sort of do."
• 58:12
  And there are a couple of emojis here.
• 58:16
  I'll normalize my trauma.
• 58:19
  Cheers, creepy people.
• 58:21
  And I'll...
• 58:23
  - You just get used to seeing dead people, you know?
• 58:26
  - Yeah, you just sort of do.
• 58:28
  You just sort of do.
• 58:30
  - Do.
• 58:31
  - I do.
• 58:32
  - A little bit.
• 58:33
  I don't know.
• 58:34
  I haven't really seen a lot of dead people.
• 58:36
  - Yeah.
• 58:37
  - I think you feel them.
• 58:38
  - You feel them.
• 58:39
  I just know things.
• 58:40
  - I think I get some flashes.
• 58:43
  I think I get like the dark, like a shadowy presence in like the corner of your, in like
• 58:51
  in your peripheral.
• 58:53
  I almost texted you earlier because I was like, "Listen, I don't know if it's because you're
• 58:56
  at a cemetery today."
• 58:59
  And like I can feel that.
• 59:02
  But like, I was just kidding when I said don't rush over because actually I'm starting
• 59:07
  to get real freaked out.
• 59:08
  Molly was barking.
• 59:09
  - Oh.
• 59:10
  - She was like barking off and on for like a...
• 59:14
  It started like kind of an isolated thing.
• 59:17
  And then about 10 minutes before I left, go to Trader Joe's, she got real burky.
• 59:25
  And it was just very sporadic.
• 59:26
  So I'd come out and be like, "What the fuck?"
• 59:29
  And she was also staring in a weird...
• 59:34
  She moved to a different spot and she was still staring off into the middle distance, into
• 59:39
  a weird spot.
• 59:40
  And I was like, "Listen, I have had enough of your shit today.
• 59:44
  You are a literal bitch because I'm talking to my female dog."
• 59:50
  Also she was being kind of a bitch.
• 59:54
  She was really freaking me out.
• 59:55
  I almost texted you like, "Are you ready to come over yet?
• 59:59
  Because actually I'm getting kind of freaked out."
• 1:00:01
  - I'm wondering like I know it was way earlier, but I'm wondering if she was like sensing
• 1:00:05
  the electrical change in the air from like the storm coming in.
• 1:00:09
  - You know, I didn't really think about that until now.
• 1:00:13
  Or it could have charged something up from the scene.
• 1:00:17
  - Also that, yeah.
• 1:00:18
  - And static electricity.
• 1:00:20
  - Honestly, before we even had like the thunder and lightning inhale.
• 1:00:25
  - Was there a bug on my head?
• 1:00:27
  - What?
• 1:00:28
  - Was there a bug on my head?
• 1:00:30
  - I don't think so.
• 1:00:31
  Why?
• 1:00:32
  - It's a static electricity and then I felt like my hair knew this.
• 1:00:36
  - Wait, like that?
• 1:00:38
  - I felt like it went like that.
• 1:00:39
  - No, no, don't say that, don't say that.
• 1:00:42
  - Don't say that.
• 1:00:43
  - Don't say that.
• 1:00:44
  - I'm telling you, I'm gonna show me a note too.
• 1:00:45
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:46
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:47
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:48
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:49
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:50
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:51
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:52
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:53
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:54
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:55
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:56
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:57
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:58
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:00:59
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:00
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
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  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
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  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
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  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:13
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
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  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:15
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
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  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:17
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:18
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:19
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:20
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:21
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:22
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:23
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:24
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:25
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:26
  - I'm gonna show you a note too.
• 1:01:27
  - So we're using the mushroom spirit or a cold deck
• 1:01:35
  that Katelyn got me for my birthday.
• 1:01:37
  - For your birthday.
• 1:01:38
  - Yeah, for your birthday.
• 1:01:39
  - I was like, what was the most recent holiday?
• 1:01:41
  - Holiday.
• 1:01:42
  - Why are we celebrating a thing?
• 1:01:43
  - Do we need a reason to celebrate me though?
• 1:01:45
  - No.
• 1:01:46
  - Oh.
• 1:01:47
  - Okay, did you think about the creepy stories?
• 1:01:50
  The three creepy stories?
• 1:01:52
  - Totally.
• 1:01:53
  - Ooh.
• 1:01:54
  - Ooh.
• 1:01:56
  - Blue pink hill.
• 1:01:58
  Okay.
• 1:02:00
  Do you have your mushroomy interpretation?
• 1:02:05
  - It's number 18, it looks like.
• 1:02:07
  - Okay.
• 1:02:09
  - We have a little mini tarot card sitting here
• 1:02:11
  which is what we put in our thank you cards
• 1:02:14
  for the Patreon.
• 1:02:16
  - Thank you.
• 1:02:17
  - Okay, I have no idea how to pronounce
• 1:02:19
  the scientific name of this mushroom.
• 1:02:23
  I would say, and to Lama,
• 1:02:27
  Hawks' Deteria.
• 1:02:30
  - Lama's and Hawks.
• 1:02:32
  - Yep.
• 1:02:33
  Lama's and Hawks.
• 1:02:34
  It is a blue pink gill.
• 1:02:37
  And I think this counts as our keyword.
• 1:02:41
  It's listed as a rarity.
• 1:02:43
  It's also inedible and poisonous.
• 1:02:47
  - Yeah, rarity is the word that's on the card.
• 1:02:50
  - Yeah.
• 1:02:51
  - So you said inedible and poisonous?
• 1:02:54
  - Yes.
• 1:02:55
  - Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  - Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  You would think that's redundant.
• 1:03:00
  Poisonous equals inedible.
• 1:03:02
  - But you know what?
• 1:03:03
  - Technically this is poison, too.
• 1:03:05
  - Okay.
• 1:03:06
  - You know?
• 1:03:07
  - I don't know.
• 1:03:08
  - Everything is a spectrum mushroom science.
• 1:03:12
  - Mushroom science.
• 1:03:14
  - So what does it say?
• 1:03:16
  - Featuring on the New Zealand $50 note
• 1:03:19
  is the blue pink gill,
• 1:03:21
  a small blue mushroom native to the country.
• 1:03:25
  It can be found in forests throughout New Zealand,
• 1:03:28
  residing among the leaf litter of broad leaf
• 1:03:32
  or pothacorp, pothacarp trees.
• 1:03:37
  - Oh.
• 1:03:38
  - With such a distinctive cobalt blue,
• 1:03:41
  it is truly a sight to see.
• 1:03:44
  - Oh.
• 1:03:45
  Wow.
• 1:03:46
  - I was seeing a lot of sights to see in her story.
• 1:03:49
  - What is she like?
• 1:03:51
  Blue in nature is a rare sight
• 1:03:54
  and blue pigment even rarer.
• 1:03:57
  - Yeah.
• 1:03:58
  - Rarer old jumper.
• 1:04:00
  - Plants don't normally exhibit blue in nature
• 1:04:04
  and generally have no blue pigment in them
• 1:04:07
  to create the blue color.
• 1:04:10
  The color is created by their structure
• 1:04:13
  that reflects the blue light wave,
• 1:04:16
  giving the impression it is blue.
• 1:04:19
  Blue pink gill, on the other hand,
• 1:04:22
  actually has three azure-ing pigments
• 1:04:25
  that make up its stunning color.
• 1:04:27
  - Oh.
• 1:04:28
  - So, wow.
• 1:04:29
  - A lot of blue.
• 1:04:30
  - Is an illusion.
• 1:04:31
  - Yeah.
• 1:04:32
  - Well, I'm sorry.
• 1:04:33
  I was thinking like a lot of blue things
• 1:04:37
  are like an illusion, it was saying.
• 1:04:39
  - Yeah.
• 1:04:40
  - And this one is actually blue.
• 1:04:41
  - It actually has blue pigment.
• 1:04:42
  - It's very interesting because
• 1:04:44
  her seeing these visions of things,
• 1:04:47
  it's like, is it an illusion?
• 1:04:50
  Is it actually there?
• 1:04:53
  Is she seeing an illusion?
• 1:04:55
  - Okay.
• 1:04:56
  This is really interesting though.
• 1:04:58
  Scientists are not sure why the mushroom
• 1:05:03
  needs to be blue.
• 1:05:05
  But generally, everything has a reason.
• 1:05:09
  - Oh.
• 1:05:11
  - It seems this mushroom has chosen blue
• 1:05:15
  for a reason we are yet to determine.
• 1:05:18
  Much like why any of the things
• 1:05:22
  in these three stories.
• 1:05:24
  - Yeah.
• 1:05:25
  It made me think of like the rarity of being blue
• 1:05:28
  is kind of the rarity of this gift.
• 1:05:31
  - Yeah.
• 1:05:32
  - It's like a gift that she has.
• 1:05:33
  - Yeah.
• 1:05:34
  - She's used to it now,
• 1:05:35
  so maybe she can refer to it as a gift.
• 1:05:37
  I don't know how you feel about it.
• 1:05:39
  - Yeah.
• 1:05:40
  - It's not common.
• 1:05:42
  And even seeing stuff like that
• 1:05:45
  is even less common, I feel like.
• 1:05:47
  - Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:48
  I definitely agree.
• 1:05:49
  And maybe there's a reason for it.
• 1:05:51
  - Maybe there's a reason.
• 1:05:53
  - She could write a story.
• 1:05:55
  - Yay!
• 1:05:56
  - Welcome.
• 1:05:57
  - These were good ones though.
• 1:05:59
  Very, very good.
• 1:06:01
  It may be that herbivores
• 1:06:04
  are not attracted to blue
• 1:06:06
  and therefore leave the mushrooms alone.
• 1:06:09
  But there may be other reasons.
• 1:06:12
  It's true though,
• 1:06:13
  because I mean,
• 1:06:15
  any herbivore that's eating all of these plants
• 1:06:18
  that are stereotypically green all day long,
• 1:06:21
  they're gonna look at something that's blue and go,
• 1:06:24
  "Mm, yeah, I don't know if I should put that in my mouth."
• 1:06:27
  - Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  - It is also poisonous though, right?
• 1:06:30
  - It is.
• 1:06:31
  - So are they looking out for these other creatures too?
• 1:06:33
  - Um, I--
• 1:06:34
  - Like, they don't eat me in poison.
• 1:06:36
  Also, like, don't kill me.
• 1:06:38
  - Yeah, I mean, that is a protective element of the plant, I think.
• 1:06:43
  - Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  - Which can first the blue or the poison.
• 1:06:46
  - Mm.
• 1:06:47
  - I don't know.
• 1:06:48
  - Interesting.
• 1:06:49
  - Okay, card meaning.
• 1:06:51
  Being a rarity doesn't necessarily mean
• 1:06:54
  that people fail to notice you.
• 1:06:57
  In fact, it can be quite the opposite,
• 1:07:00
  as seen in the blue pink gill.
• 1:07:04
  Standing out can be beautiful
• 1:07:06
  when you look different from everything around you.
• 1:07:09
  - Aww.
• 1:07:10
  - Or when you see everything different around you.
• 1:07:14
  Everyone serves a purpose,
• 1:07:18
  even if you don't understand what it is yet.
• 1:07:21
  - Wow.
• 1:07:22
  - Your purpose may be big, it may be small,
• 1:07:27
  but size doesn't equate to bigger and better.
• 1:07:30
  - That's right.
• 1:07:31
  - That's right.
• 1:07:32
  - The motion of the ocean, as we all know.
• 1:07:34
  - You know, the simple act of seeing the beauty
• 1:07:37
  in what is in front of you has an effect on the larger scale.
• 1:07:42
  Do you know what your purpose is?
• 1:07:45
  Do you see the beauty in your rarity?
• 1:07:49
  - Do you, Jeannie?
• 1:07:51
  - We do, obviously.
• 1:07:53
  - Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  - We think it's really cool, very terrifying experiences
• 1:07:58
  that you have though.
• 1:07:59
  - Yeah.
• 1:08:00
  - And seeing, especially the man.
• 1:08:03
  - Yeah.
• 1:08:04
  - That like seeing someone in that state
• 1:08:06
  who like that actually happened to him.
• 1:08:09
  - I'm gonna read the rest of the interpretation.
• 1:08:12
  - Okay.
• 1:08:13
  - For there are incredibly complex pieces
• 1:08:17
  that make up your whole.
• 1:08:19
  - Aww.
• 1:08:20
  - Rarity is beautiful,
• 1:08:22
  and rarity is not always unique.
• 1:08:25
  There will always be others just like you.
• 1:08:30
  - So you can still find your people.
• 1:08:33
  - Aww.
• 1:08:34
  - You're creepy people.
• 1:08:36
  That's us.
• 1:08:37
  - Yeah.
• 1:08:39
  - By being rare, you deter what you don't want finding you.
• 1:08:44
  - Aww.
• 1:08:45
  - You stand untouched by those who would normally try
• 1:08:50
  to take you down.
• 1:08:51
  You go unnoticed to some, but notice to others.
• 1:08:56
  - That's cool.
• 1:08:57
  - Oh, I just got to.
• 1:08:59
  - Yeah.
• 1:09:00
  - Blue was always a hard color to come by in olden days.
• 1:09:06
  And therefore, something only royalty could obtain.
• 1:09:11
  - Huh?
• 1:09:12
  - What is your uniqueness?
• 1:09:14
  And how can you utilize it to stand out in a sea of the same?
• 1:09:19
  - I love that.
• 1:09:21
  - I love that too.
• 1:09:22
  - Yeah, the visual of that.
• 1:09:24
  - Specifically with the blue.
• 1:09:26
  And tall and proud and enjoy being something special.
• 1:09:31
  Oh, these mushrooms are so cute.
• 1:09:34
  - They're really cute.
• 1:09:35
  - They are cute.
• 1:09:36
  - Is it weird to have a crush on a mushroom?
• 1:09:38
  - No.
• 1:09:39
  - They're so cute.
• 1:09:41
  - They're so cute.
• 1:09:42
  - I just keep for fading what you're saying.
• 1:09:46
  - No, they're really, they are though.
• 1:09:48
  They're very, they're very like, dainty, they're like very like.
• 1:09:52
  - I don't know who Jeannie, I don't know Jeannie.
• 1:09:55
  - Well, but I feel like, did these mushrooms represent you?
• 1:10:00
  - Do you like the color on the limb?
• 1:10:02
  - I don't know.
• 1:10:03
  - Do you like the color on the limb?
• 1:10:04
  - Yes.
• 1:10:05
  - Do you know Jeannie?
• 1:10:06
  - I know a few more things that the rest of you don't.
• 1:10:09
  Just from context, I'm gonna say, I feel like this resonates for me with Jeannie.
• 1:10:15
  I don't know.
• 1:10:16
  I can be wrong, maybe I'm crazy.
• 1:10:18
  - Definitely the cute part if anything.
• 1:10:20
  - Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  - Exactly.
• 1:10:22
  - I don't know.
• 1:10:25
  - You'll have to let us know if Lou means anything to you of any of this resonates with you.
• 1:10:31
  And we will definitely send you stickers for your story, which we do for anyone who gives us a story.
• 1:10:37
  Let's just read it and give us their address because we're not, we're not that psychic.
• 1:10:43
  - We're not trying to intuit that.
• 1:10:46
  - Yeah, it's just too much.
• 1:10:48
  There's only so many hours in the day.
• 1:10:52
  If you want us to keep creating content, that's just not how we're gonna be able to spend them.
• 1:10:59
  - And you can see on the altar here, we have one of the thank you cards, one of the little mini-terro envelopes that we send you with the teeny tiny card.
• 1:11:09
  It's so tiny, so don't lose it when you open it.
• 1:11:13
  Now, I realize some of you are familiar with how tiny that I am in terms of stature.
• 1:11:20
  Look at that.
• 1:11:21
  - I'm a giant.
• 1:11:22
  - It's a widow.
• 1:11:23
  I'm a giant.
• 1:11:24
  Holds like a tiny little derroga.
• 1:11:26
  - Yeah, so I think I said earlier, I just reached in the bag and ruffled around until I found one that was calling to me, thought about the stories or whatever happened today.
• 1:11:36
  So maybe we should read that interpretation.
• 1:11:39
  - The Wheel of Fortune.
• 1:11:42
  - I think you're my am.
• 1:11:43
  We get that one quite frequently.
• 1:11:45
  I feel like, and we just always relate it back to us because we are going to be so rich, so so.
• 1:11:53
  - Okay.
• 1:11:55
  The Wheel of Fortune, it's the 10th card in the major arcana.
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  Keywords, change, destiny, unexpected turn of events.
• 1:12:08
  Good luck.
• 1:12:09
  - I'm assuming you pulled this in the upright.
• 1:12:15
  - It was, yeah.
• 1:12:16
  - Okay.
• 1:12:17
  - Some decks depict the Wheel of Fortune with eight spokes, a reference to the eight pagan sabats or holidays that mark the Sun's annual passage across the sky and the ever turning cycles of life.
• 1:12:33
  - And we got an 18.
• 1:12:35
  - We did.
• 1:12:36
  - On the mushroom.
• 1:12:38
  - Other decks show human or mythological figures attached to the Wheel indicating we're all tied to the Wheel of Time and subject to life's ups and downs.
• 1:12:51
  - Oh.
• 1:12:52
  - The Wheel of Time though, because I was like, I'm always saying all time happens all at once and I was saying she was going into these time warps in some sort of situations.
• 1:13:02
  - I didn't even think about that.
• 1:13:04
  - I did.
• 1:13:05
  - Wow.
• 1:13:06
  - Look at you.
• 1:13:07
  - Great.
• 1:13:08
  - Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  - The Rider Weight Smith deck includes winged versions of astrological symbols, which represent the four elements in the card's corners, suggesting the influence of divine forces.
• 1:13:25
  - Consciously or unconsciously, you've put something in motion and you now have little or no control over the outcome.
• 1:13:34
  - I mean, that seems accurate.
• 1:13:37
  - Based on the stories.
• 1:13:38
  - Yeah, someone who sees dead people going into a bunch of haunted houses.
• 1:13:43
  - Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  - A new phase in your life is beginning.
• 1:13:47
  An important decision must be made or an upcoming circumstance will change your life.
• 1:13:54
  Destiny is at work and you have to accept whatever happens.
• 1:13:58
  All you can do is attune yourself to the forces operating now.
• 1:14:03
  The Wheel of Fortune is linked to the three fates, collectively called the Marai, I'm thinking.
• 1:14:12
  - I feel like you say it that way every time, yeah.
• 1:14:15
  - That's because that's my best guess.
• 1:14:17
  - In Greek mythology, one spins the thread of life, the second weaves it and the third cuts it.
• 1:14:25
  Thus, the Wheel of Fortune is a reminder of the mysterious cycles of life, death and rebirth.
• 1:14:32
  And of the invisible forces that measure them out to each of us.
• 1:14:39
  - Damn!
• 1:14:40
  Damn!
• 1:14:41
  - You're going to be like that, Leon.
• 1:14:43
  - You're going to be like that, Leon.
• 1:14:44
  - You're going to be like that, Leon.
• 1:14:45
  - Shit, three stories, too.
• 1:14:47
  - That's true.
• 1:14:48
  A favorable outcome awaits you.
• 1:14:50
  Circumstances are changing for the better.
• 1:14:52
  - Yeah.
• 1:14:53
  - The last story, is that not the one with the freezer?
• 1:14:57
  Circumstances are changing for the better because you left that dead way behind.
• 1:15:02
  I'm willing to bet you lost 160 pounds or better.
• 1:15:07
  - Oh.
• 1:15:08
  - Was the roast 160 pounds?
• 1:15:13
  - No, but a better axe has been lost.
• 1:15:15
  - Oh, I see.
• 1:15:16
  - I was still stuck on the roast.
• 1:15:18
  - I just heard roast.
• 1:15:19
  - I was like 160 pounds of roast, I'll be right there.
• 1:15:24
  - How did she hold that up and the freezer?
• 1:15:29
  - Even if you aren't totally aware of what you've done to initiate the process,
• 1:15:35
  you've started the ball rolling, or rather, the wheel turning.
• 1:15:40
  Don't resist.
• 1:15:41
  These changes will promote growth and bring valuable learning experiences for you.
• 1:15:48
  It can be hard to stay balanced, but go with the flow and trust the process.
• 1:15:54
  - I feel like she's kind of doing that by just accepting it and being like,
• 1:15:57
  "Okay, this is the thing that happens."
• 1:15:59
  - Yeah.
• 1:16:00
  - So I'm curious what's going to happen next.
• 1:16:03
  - Well, tell me.
• 1:16:04
  - It's going to be good.
• 1:16:05
  - I'm telling you.
• 1:16:06
  - In a reading about money, this card harolds good fortune coming your way
• 1:16:12
  as a result of what you've already put into motion.
• 1:16:16
  Perhaps through a stroke of good luck, your finances improve.
• 1:16:21
  Seize opportunities that present themselves.
• 1:16:25
  If the reading is about your job, you may get a lucky break.
• 1:16:30
  Unexpected turns of events are likely, such as meeting all my fucking God.
• 1:16:37
  I skipped a hard you guys.
• 1:16:39
  I'm scanning as I'm reading.
• 1:16:41
  I don't know how my brain does this, but it does.
• 1:16:43
  Except it, get on board.
• 1:16:45
  Okay, this is where we are.
• 1:16:48
  Unexpected turns of events are likely, such as meeting people who can help you
• 1:16:54
  or receiving an offer out of the blue.
• 1:16:57
  Weird.
• 1:16:59
  I'm freaking the fuck out.
• 1:17:02
  Out of the blue, like the mushrooms.
• 1:17:06
  All this may appear for to this.
• 1:17:09
  It's all part of the grand plan for your life.
• 1:17:13
  We did put a lot of blue behind me too, and there's blue in yours.
• 1:17:17
  Yeah.
• 1:17:18
  I don't know.
• 1:17:19
  I was feeling it today, I guess, but I like to mix it up and kind of keep the colors interesting
• 1:17:25
  and maybe do color change.
• 1:17:28
  And the lapper derailleur.
• 1:17:30
  Yes, thank you.
• 1:17:31
  I always try to say it wrong.
• 1:17:33
  Because blue flashes.
• 1:17:35
  It does.
• 1:17:37
  Oh my gosh.
• 1:17:40
  I'm reading about love.
• 1:17:43
  A new romance may begin or an existing relationship may improve.
• 1:17:47
  Your relationship by divorce.
• 1:17:50
  I think it's like the relationship with the ghosties.
• 1:17:53
  Yeah, maybe.
• 1:17:54
  I hope they improve.
• 1:17:55
  Yeah.
• 1:17:56
  Even if you don't think you've done anything to make that happen.
• 1:18:00
  The time is right for this change.
• 1:18:02
  Enjoy it.
• 1:18:03
  Okay, I have an extra excerpt.
• 1:18:06
  The weekend read.
• 1:18:08
  It's often linked with karma, which Wikens describe in what's known as the Wikens read.
• 1:18:15
  By the Wikens law, you must.
• 1:18:18
  In perfect love and perfect trust.
• 1:18:21
  Eight words, the Wikens read, fulfill.
• 1:18:25
  And you harm none.
• 1:18:27
  Do what you will.
• 1:18:29
  What ye send forth comes back to thee.
• 1:18:32
  So ever mind the rule of three.
• 1:18:35
  Three stories.
• 1:18:37
  Okay, everyone only has to send us three stories at a time.
• 1:18:42
  Oh my god.
• 1:18:44
  Wow.
• 1:18:46
  For it to have so many number parallels with these stories when they're very disparate.
• 1:18:56
  Okay.
• 1:18:59
  Follow this with mind and heart.
• 1:19:02
  And marry you, meet and marry you part.
• 1:19:05
  That happened.
• 1:19:07
  She married someone and she parted.
• 1:19:09
  Yeah, it's not that kind of marriage.
• 1:19:12
  No, I know.
• 1:19:13
  It's like, marry Christmas.
• 1:19:16
  To me, this is like, I think of, I think of her three stories.
• 1:19:21
  And I feel like it may not have felt like it was a marry, you meet.
• 1:19:28
  But marry your part.
• 1:19:30
  That's true.
• 1:19:32
  And it seemed like you part ways in sort of a positive way.
• 1:19:38
  Do you think?
• 1:19:39
  I think so.
• 1:19:40
  I think things are feeling positive.
• 1:19:42
  But I like it.
• 1:19:43
  Jeannie, you'll definitely have to let us know.
• 1:19:45
  Yeah, please let us know.
• 1:19:47
  I think they're positive for us too.
• 1:19:49
  Just let us know that everything's okay.
• 1:19:52
  Girl, are you okay?
• 1:19:54
  You good?
• 1:19:56
  Yeah, definitely.
• 1:19:57
  Well, I talked about my story today too.
• 1:20:00
  I think that card 100% also applies to me.
• 1:20:03
  I think so.
• 1:20:04
  And us because you're like a part of me.
• 1:20:07
  Yeah.
• 1:20:08
  I am actually pulling up a few names that we need to shout out.
• 1:20:13
  I want to read these stickers first real quick.
• 1:20:15
  Okay.
• 1:20:16
  So we put little stickers on that are going out to various Patreon story people.
• 1:20:22
  Whoever gets them.
• 1:20:23
  But I thought they totally related to our story today.
• 1:20:27
  So the one on my side says happiness can be found even in the darkest of times.
• 1:20:32
  If only one remembers to turn on the light.
• 1:20:36
  And that is Albus Dumbledore.
• 1:20:39
  We were talking about Harry Potter for like a second.
• 1:20:42
  Okay.
• 1:20:43
  And I'm oh my god.
• 1:20:45
  No, turn on the light because she lights it out on the basement.
• 1:20:50
  I literally didn't even think of that when I pulled that out.
• 1:20:53
  That's so funny.
• 1:20:54
  I just like grab the two clothes and I was like these I think these are late.
• 1:20:59
  I mean, I fully understand that you picked this one with me and Matt.
• 1:21:03
  And that's it's funny because it's like this.
• 1:21:05
  Okay.
• 1:21:06
  Yeah, read it.
• 1:21:07
  Okay.
• 1:21:08
  Okay.
• 1:21:09
  I'm a leader not a follower.
• 1:21:12
  Unless it's dark, then you're going first.
• 1:21:17
  And that is motto that I live by.
• 1:21:20
  Yeah.
• 1:21:21
  Yeah, I definitely picked not thinking about you and not the fact that she was like in the dark too.
• 1:21:26
  I feel like that's a super like empathic like feels this book.
• 1:21:34
  Yeah.
• 1:21:35
  Leo.
• 1:21:36
  Like it's very specific.
• 1:21:37
  It's so niche.
• 1:21:38
  It's so like, look at me.
• 1:21:40
  I'm such hot shit unless it's scary.
• 1:21:43
  Well, before we skiddattle out of here, we have a couple of Patreon shout outs to do.
• 1:21:49
  I mean, I think for as a few.
• 1:21:52
  For as a good number and how many like free ones have we had like.
• 1:21:56
  Oh my god.
• 1:21:57
  Just out taste test us a little bit, you know.
• 1:22:00
  I was blown away the other day.
• 1:22:01
  I was like, holy shit.
• 1:22:02
  We have so many people that are like checking out.
• 1:22:05
  And free members.
• 1:22:06
  Yeah.
• 1:22:07
  By the way, we will not be naming individually all of the people that are doing like the free membership
• 1:22:14
  and like trying it out.
• 1:22:15
  We just can't.
• 1:22:16
  It's so many names.
• 1:22:18
  So here your name come out of our beautiful lips.
• 1:22:21
  You're sorry.
• 1:22:22
  Yeah.
• 1:22:23
  Listen, time is money and I don't.
• 1:22:29
  Well, let's get this going.
• 1:22:31
  I know we got to go go go go.
• 1:22:33
  The first person gave us money is Sheila who subscribed at the creepy people tier, which is a dollar.
• 1:22:42
  And she did the annual membership.
• 1:22:47
  So you pay it all at once.
• 1:22:49
  You get committed to a full year with us.
• 1:22:52
  Who wouldn't want to do that.
• 1:22:54
  Hello.
• 1:22:55
  Put a ring on it.
• 1:22:56
  And it's like a little bit discounted, right?
• 1:22:58
  It is.
• 1:22:59
  Yeah, it's a discount.
• 1:23:00
  Yeah.
• 1:23:01
  So thank you Sheila.
• 1:23:02
  Sheila.
• 1:23:03
  She shows down by the she shore.
• 1:23:05
  Oh.
• 1:23:06
  In her she shows.
• 1:23:07
  Yeah.
• 1:23:08
  We've done this.
• 1:23:09
  She she she.
• 1:23:10
  Listen, you know what?
• 1:23:12
  It's new to us every time we sit down at these desks.
• 1:23:15
  So if we've done it before we have no recollection.
• 1:23:19
  We are goldfish and I'm going to be honest.
• 1:23:23
  I have to assume that's part of our charm.
• 1:23:25
  I feel like you guys are too.
• 1:23:27
  Yeah.
• 1:23:28
  So that's fine.
• 1:23:29
  You could just read, listen to every episode.
• 1:23:30
  Like a bunch of times.
• 1:23:32
  Okay.
• 1:23:33
  So we have Caroline.
• 1:23:35
  Ooh.
• 1:23:36
  Caroline.
• 1:23:37
  Caroline.
• 1:23:38
  Like from New Girl, like Nicksex Girlfriend Caroline.
• 1:23:42
  Totally.
• 1:23:43
  And like the subject of many many many many many songs.
• 1:23:48
  Sweet Caroline.
• 1:23:51
  Ba ba ba.
• 1:23:53
  [laughs]
• 1:23:56
  Um, she is joining us at the creepy people tier.
• 1:24:02
  And she too.
• 1:24:04
  I subscribe for a whole year.
• 1:24:06
  All the way from across the bone.
• 1:24:11
  What?
• 1:24:12
  Uh huh.
• 1:24:13
  Hi.
• 1:24:14
  Hey.
• 1:24:15
  Sorry about the terrible accents.
• 1:24:16
  I know what it is.
• 1:24:17
  I spent like three days in London and I was like,
• 1:24:20
  I'm never leaving.
• 1:24:22
  But you did.
• 1:24:23
  And then I did.
• 1:24:24
  I know.
• 1:24:25
  I'm a monster.
• 1:24:26
  Shh.
• 1:24:27
  I want subsettin Caroline to let us know how often people sing sweet Caroline at her.
• 1:24:33
  Because I feel like she might hate us after that.
• 1:24:37
  Sorry about it.
• 1:24:38
  You already committed to the full year.
• 1:24:40
  We do it from love.
• 1:24:41
  Yeah.
• 1:24:42
  Also, are you across the pond stone?
• 1:24:46
  I'm very curious.
• 1:24:48
  Because we don't get a lot of data.
• 1:24:51
  Okay.
• 1:24:52
  And I don't want to make it creepy.
• 1:24:53
  And we're not going to share too much with anybody else.
• 1:24:55
  Obviously.
• 1:24:56
  But I want to know how you found us.
• 1:24:59
  The internet.
• 1:25:00
  What?
• 1:25:01
  Uh huh.
• 1:25:02
  Yeah.
• 1:25:03
  You and everybody else.
• 1:25:04
  Tell me more.
• 1:25:05
  Yeah.
• 1:25:06
  Let us know.
• 1:25:07
  Let us know.
• 1:25:08
  We also have Bethany joining our ranks.
• 1:25:12
  She is a monthly subscriber at the creepy people tier.
• 1:25:17
  Thanks, Bethany.
• 1:25:18
  Hi, Bethany.
• 1:25:19
  I've always kind of liked the name Bethany.
• 1:25:22
  I do too.
• 1:25:23
  Yeah.
• 1:25:24
  I like it.
• 1:25:25
  I don't know.
• 1:25:26
  Do you go by Beth ever or is that more like a bell in Elizabeth thing?
• 1:25:29
  Yeah.
• 1:25:30
  I think I, if my name was Bethany, I think I would probably go by Beth.
• 1:25:34
  Yeah.
• 1:25:35
  Oh, really?
• 1:25:36
  I was like Bethany.
• 1:25:37
  I mean, I do too, but a lot of times people shorten it up, right?
• 1:25:40
  Yeah.
• 1:25:41
  It was like three syllables, right?
• 1:25:42
  Yeah.
• 1:25:43
  I did clap in my head.
• 1:25:44
  Yeah.
• 1:25:45
  Huh?
• 1:25:46
  Anyways.
• 1:25:47
  Bethany!
• 1:25:48
  Okay.
• 1:25:49
  Next we have Sue, who signed up as an annual member.
• 1:25:59
  Another one at the creepy people tier.
• 1:26:02
  Oh, love tier.
• 1:26:03
  So we have a lot of creepy people who have just committed to a year with us.
• 1:26:08
  Great.
• 1:26:09
  I mean, yeah.
• 1:26:10
  I'm over here like DJ Khaled.
• 1:26:13
  Sue, what's up?
• 1:26:14
  You know, another one.
• 1:26:16
  I don't know.
• 1:26:17
  Listen, there's a reason I'm not a, I'm not trying to make a rap career flourish.
• 1:26:25
  I gotta go.
• 1:26:26
  I know.
• 1:26:27
  I know.
• 1:26:28
  She's like, I gotta get a hold hostage here.
• 1:26:30
  I'll take a bye-bye.
• 1:26:31
  Sue, save me.
• 1:26:32
  Help me out of here.
• 1:26:34
  Thank you all so much for joining our Patreon.
• 1:26:41
  If anyone else interested, you can find the link to that in our link tree, which is always
• 1:26:45
  in the show notes.
• 1:26:46
  It's on our Instagram.
• 1:26:47
  It's everywhere.
• 1:26:48
  It's everywhere on everything.
• 1:26:49
  We have a website.
• 1:26:50
  Just type in the NW Johansson homicides into Google.
• 1:26:52
  It'll take you to the website and to everything.
• 1:26:55
  Yes.
• 1:26:56
  And the name of the show.
• 1:26:57
  So easy.
• 1:26:58
  So easy.
• 1:26:59
  Even a caveman could do it.
• 1:27:01
  Talked about you insulting them.
• 1:27:04
  Oh, I thought you were going to be a little bit worried about like if that was like trademark
• 1:27:09
  infringement with.
• 1:27:10
  I don't know.
• 1:27:11
  Maybe.
• 1:27:12
  Well, I guess we'll see what happens.
• 1:27:13
  If we get sued, bring it back to Sue.
• 1:27:17
  Sue.
• 1:27:18
  Listen, we can tie any two things together.
• 1:27:23
  We need are very good at connecting the invisible strings.
• 1:27:28
  Indeed.
• 1:27:29
  Indeed.
• 1:27:30
  Although this one I feel like some of this was just, I'm like, listen, okay, you don't have
• 1:27:35
  to be woo-woo, but you got to admit.
• 1:27:37
  That was kind of crazy.
• 1:27:38
  You got to admit.
• 1:27:39
  Come on.
• 1:27:40
  Well, let's, we should get out of here before anything else.
• 1:27:44
  Crazy.
• 1:27:45
  Crazy.
• 1:27:46
  I know I think the thunder and lightning is pretty much.
• 1:27:49
  Yeah.
• 1:27:50
  It's a non-event now.
• 1:27:51
  Yeah.
• 1:27:52
  I'm going to calm down a little bit.
• 1:27:54
  All the creepy stories were done and I was like, all right, well, I guess you don't need
• 1:27:57
  me anymore.
• 1:27:58
  Yeah.
• 1:27:59
  Have a creepy ass day.
• 1:28:03
  See you next Tuesday.
• 1:28:04
  See you next Tuesday.
• 1:28:05
  Unless I get hit by a hillstone.
• 1:28:08
  Oh, we were.
• 1:28:10
  Okay, listen, they're not that big, but like they're pretty big.
• 1:28:14
  They're pretty big.
• 1:28:15
  They could knock you out.
• 1:28:16
  If they hit you right in the table.
• 1:28:18
  It's a hit.
• 1:28:19
  Yeah.
• 1:28:20
  Not just hat racks, we are.
• 1:28:22
  No, we're sharing the same hat rack.
• 1:28:26
  Oh my God.
• 1:28:27
  I was going to say, um, we'll see you next Tuesday, unless we are from the past and you're
• 1:28:35
  seeing us in a time slip just real quick.
• 1:28:38
  And then you, you slip back into your future and then you don't see us anymore.
• 1:28:43
  Okay, great.
• 1:28:44
  Yeah.
• 1:28:45
  Everyone else have a good day.
• 1:28:46
  I don't actually really do.
• 1:28:47
  I feel like we should have stuck with mine.
• 1:28:49
  That was scary.
• 1:28:50
  I like mine.
• 1:28:51
  Okay.
• 1:28:52
  Okay.
• 1:28:53
  We'll end on scary.
• 1:28:54
  All right.
• 1:28:55
  Should I do a trigger warning?
• 1:28:56
  Oh my God.
• 1:28:57
  Okay.
• 1:28:58
  Let's get used to maybe profan, baby love.
• 1:29:01
  Oh my goodness.
• 1:29:02
  Bye.
• 1:29:03
  Thank you guys.
• 1:29:04
  But for real, so goodbye.
• 1:29:05
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• 1:29:06
  I'm not a good player.
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