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The Late Debate | 26 December · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late Wait, welcome the Late Bait.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for your company this evening, I'm Gabriella Power
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  Speaker 3: and joining us is Joe Hildebrand and Freileach. Coming up,
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  Speaker 3: John Persudo's time as Victorian Liberal leader could be up
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  Speaker 3: by tomorrow morning. Shadow Minister for Crime Prevention Brad Batton
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  Speaker 3: is set to challenge John Persudo for the leadership, and
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  Speaker 3: Shadow Finance Minister Jess Wilson has also confirmed that she'll
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  Speaker 3: be throwing her hat in the ring too, although it
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  Speaker 3: appears that she won't have the numbers to win, and
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  Speaker 3: more redeeming could be allowed back to the party. Also tonight,
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  Speaker 3: we'll look at the University of Minnesota's new research project
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  Speaker 3: that's looking for gender diverse children as young as five
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  Speaker 3: to play with transgender dolls.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's seriously happening.
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  Speaker 3: But first let's go to the US because President elect
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump has shared his Christmas message and it is
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  Speaker 3: brilliant trolling the radical left to always try to find
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  Speaker 3: a way to ruin this special and holy day. Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump posted on Truth Social Merry Christmas to the radical
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  Speaker 3: left lunatics who are constantly trying to obstruct our court
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  Speaker 3: system and our elections.
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  Speaker 2: They know that their.
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  Speaker 3: Only chance of survival is getting pardons from a man
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  Speaker 3: who has absolutely no idea what he's doing. And also
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump wanted to take aim at Justin Toddeau. He
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  Speaker 3: said to Governor Justin Todeau of Canada, whose citizens taxes
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  Speaker 3: are far too high.
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  Speaker 2: But if Canada was to become our.
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  Speaker 3: Fist fifty first date, their taxes would be cut by
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  Speaker 3: more than sixty percent. Rather, we've also heard from President
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  Speaker 3: Joe Biden, if we can remember him, and he shared
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  Speaker 3: Christmas message and he.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't even feature in it. Let's take a look at this.
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  Speaker 4: There's a certain stillness at the center of christ restoring
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  Speaker 4: shale and night when all the world ruins quiet, all
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  Speaker 4: the noise, everything is the wisest, all fades away, and
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  Speaker 4: still listen to the winter's evening, and we looked to
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  Speaker 4: the sky, a long star shining bread and all the rest,
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  Speaker 4: guiding us to the birth of a child.
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  Speaker 3: It goes on for a couple of minutes, but that
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  Speaker 3: just gives me a headache. But this podcaster Joe Rogan
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  Speaker 3: has summed it up brilliantly.
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  Speaker 2: He has shared this video that really.
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  Speaker 3: Captures the difference between the left and the right tag
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  Speaker 3: a Look.
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  Speaker 5: How dare we speak Merry Christmas?
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  Speaker 6: How dare we well guess what we're saying?
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  Speaker 2: Mary Christmas again, Joe? How good is that? But it
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  Speaker 2: shows you what kind of different world we would be living.
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  Speaker 6: It is amazing. And you see all these things like
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  Speaker 6: how dare you have merry Christmas when there are people
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  Speaker 6: suffering in Palestine? It's like, are we not allowed to
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  Speaker 6: be happy about anything ever because someone somewhere is not happy?
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  Speaker 6: Because that would eliminate, eradicate all happiness among all people
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  Speaker 6: for all time. But look, I particularly enjoyed the Joe
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  Speaker 6: Biden one because it reminded me of that guy you're
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  Speaker 6: sitting next to at the dinner table at Christmas Day
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  Speaker 6: and you're not quite sure how you're related. You think
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  Speaker 6: maybe maybe your great Auntie might have hooked up with
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  Speaker 6: him at the Bowls club just because he's got nowhere
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  Speaker 6: else to go, and it just starts telling you what
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  Speaker 6: Christmas means to him, and you're goings and it It
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  Speaker 6: just makes no sense. And also that Christmas tree in
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  Speaker 6: the White House is an abomination. My mother in law
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  Speaker 6: who gave me this beautiful shirt that I'm wearing, by
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  Speaker 6: the way, thanks Jill, that has a little smaller one
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  Speaker 6: of the sort of wooden sort of I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: is it deco Is it the deconstructed Christmas tree where
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  Speaker 6: you know, each sort of little thing slides around and
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  Speaker 6: blah blah blah. It's like that is not a fir tree.
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  Speaker 6: That is not a Christmas tree. The whole idea of
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  Speaker 6: a Christmas tree is that it is an evergreen tree
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  Speaker 6: that even in the very depths of winter, still produces
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  Speaker 6: it as the song goes, it's lovely, lustrous branches, and
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  Speaker 6: you're just reducing it that.
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  Speaker 2: What that is metal.
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  Speaker 6: It's just I mean, firstly, it's a safety hazard. There
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  Speaker 6: are any children in the White House, they'd come out
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  Speaker 6: with eye patches. They'd be like long John Silver. And secondly,
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  Speaker 6: it's just not Christmas y. And I do appreciate the
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  Speaker 6: irony that every year I take an evergreen Christmas tree
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  Speaker 6: and cut it down so it immediately dies within about
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  Speaker 6: three weeks.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Simple it's Christmas. Have to get around the key traditions alive.
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  Speaker 2: But freyer.
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump also slammed the criminals that Joe Biden commuted
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  Speaker 3: earlier in the week, he said, also to the thirty
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  Speaker 3: seven most violent criminals who killed and raped people once before,
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  Speaker 3: who were just given a pardon in incredible will pardon
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  Speaker 3: by sleepy Joe Biden, he refuses to wish them a
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  Speaker 3: Merry Christmas. To those lucky souls that will instead say
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  Speaker 3: go to hell.
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  Speaker 2: We just had the greatest election.
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  Speaker 3: In history of our country, and the bright light is
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  Speaker 3: now shining over the USA, and in twenty six days
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  Speaker 3: we will.
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  Speaker 2: Make America a great again. Merry Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that message would be one that many
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  Speaker 3: of the families of those victims, who you know, would
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  Speaker 3: really appreciate, seeing as those violent criminals were part and
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  Speaker 3: just days before Christmas. It is the most quintessentially Trump
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  Speaker 3: Christmas message anyone could ever possibly produce.
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  Speaker 7: It's like you can just hear Trump through that tweet,
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  Speaker 7: which I love. And I think it's good that he's
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  Speaker 7: acknowledging the incredible commuting of thirty seven death row sentences,
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  Speaker 7: because that was pretty extraordinary. But I mean, Biden's Christmas
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  Speaker 7: message was also very strange. I actually have a theory
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  Speaker 7: that it could even be AI generated.
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  Speaker 2: It's just an AI generated.
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  Speaker 7: Voice at Biden the guy's on his deathbed. He's not
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  Speaker 7: getting out of bed this Christmas for anyone, let alone
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  Speaker 7: the American people. And so one of his staffers has
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  Speaker 7: just gone into chat GPT put in some inputs of
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  Speaker 7: his voice, his audio. There'd be plenty on the internet
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  Speaker 7: to make some sort of cogent voiceover, and then boom,
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  Speaker 7: that's the Christmas message, because why else is he not
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  Speaker 7: even appearing, not even a token Jill and Joe, nothing
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  Speaker 7: at all. So I think it's AI and he could
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  Speaker 7: actually be dead.
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  Speaker 6: That is ingenious. That is the best Biden take I've
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  Speaker 6: heard in all of twenty twenty four. And my only
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  Speaker 6: question is if they AI generated Biden's Christmas message, why
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  Speaker 6: didn't they just AI generate his entire presidency?
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  Speaker 5: Well, so much better off they kept him here instead
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  Speaker 5: of juiced up Joe, you know, and they didn't get
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  Speaker 5: the timing of his dosage quite right, going out and
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  Speaker 5: sort of crumbling.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe send out a hologram, Yes, just cut that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I do it via zoom. Oh yes, why hello Joe,
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  Speaker 6: Oh hello America.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that really struggle when he had to finally
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  Speaker 3: hold press conferences and had to finally never hold press conferences.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he refused to hold.
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  Speaker 6: Doors stopped on the way to Marine Wine. It's like, Oh,
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  Speaker 6: there's all these reporters. Do you the presidential helicopter. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I'm just going out to dick some ass for America. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: We're in for fun.
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  Speaker 6: Four years is.
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  Speaker 3: Going to be a lot better than the fall that
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  Speaker 3: we've had. But it is this special time of the
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  Speaker 3: year where we spend our precious time with our loved
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  Speaker 3: ones and celebrate with family and friends, except, of course,
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  Speaker 3: for those on the far left who cannot bring themselves
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  Speaker 3: to socialize with anyone who may vote differently to them.
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  Speaker 3: A new poll found that Democrats are almost five times
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  Speaker 3: as likely as Republicans to say that they'll spend less
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  Speaker 3: time with certain family members because of their political views.
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  Speaker 2: Shock horror.
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  Speaker 3: The survey from p r R I'm also found that
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  Speaker 3: Democrats are more likely to view the Republican Party as
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  Speaker 3: a serious threat to the country. Well, I wonder why
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  Speaker 3: they think that. Well, maybe because of the left wing
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  Speaker 3: media and you know who's also encouraging that politics should
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  Speaker 3: really come between relationships, this ivy league, psychiontrist.
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  Speaker 8: If you are going into a situation where you have
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  Speaker 8: family members, where you have close friends who you know
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  Speaker 8: have voted in ways that are against you. It's completely
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  Speaker 8: fine to not be around those people and to tell
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  Speaker 8: them why, you know, to say, I have a problem
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  Speaker 8: with the way that you voted. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 8: be around you this holiday.
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  Speaker 2: I need to take some space from me.
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  Speaker 3: Completely fine, completely healthy to just be in an echo
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  Speaker 3: chamber and essentially shut out anyone who votes differently to you.
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  Speaker 3: Comedian at Bill Meyer has a weight in on this
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  Speaker 3: and blasted his own side for behaving this way.
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  Speaker 9: Way back when a guy who crossed lines politically, who
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  Speaker 9: the worst thing you could ever do? Be friends with
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  Speaker 9: a Republican call nine one one. Yeah, this is what
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  Speaker 9: I hate about the left. Just the idea that you know,
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  Speaker 9: cut your family on for Thanksgiving, things luned for the wrong.
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  Speaker 2: He's making sense, Joe.
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  Speaker 3: How sad is it that we're living in this world
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  Speaker 3: that people actually believe that you don't need to invest
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  Speaker 3: in your relationships anymore because they vote a certain way.
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  Speaker 6: It's incredibly sad. It's incredibly ridiculous. This is a fight
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  Speaker 6: that Bill Maher has been fighting for it. Frankly, I
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  Speaker 6: feel like I'm a slightly more handsome and less famous version.
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  Speaker 6: It's the sort of stuff that I've been shouting from
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  Speaker 6: the rooftops, so he's been shouting from the rooftops. It is, obviously,
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  Speaker 6: it is. It is. And again I talk about sort
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  Speaker 6: of ideology and ideological extremism all the time, but it
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  Speaker 6: is that thing where you decide that your cause and
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  Speaker 6: what you believe in your politics are more important than
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  Speaker 6: human relationships and more important than the feelings. And it
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  Speaker 6: starts out with the feelings, and then it quickly escalates
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  Speaker 6: to the lives of other human beings, because you know,
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  Speaker 6: the greater good, the ideal is, the utopia, is more important.
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  Speaker 6: So again it's not that easy, difficult a step to make.
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  Speaker 6: From first you cut off people who you disagree with politically,
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  Speaker 6: who don't agree or rather who don't agree with you politically,
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  Speaker 6: then you gradually sort of dehumanizement. Pretty soon they're not
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  Speaker 6: really people, and pretty soon they're just impediments on the
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  Speaker 6: way to a glorious revolutionary utopia. And pretty soon that
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  Speaker 6: means you have to get rid of them. And this
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  Speaker 6: is the formula that has played out on the left
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  Speaker 6: and the right. But the right is at least kind
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  Speaker 6: of honest about it, but played out by the left,
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  Speaker 6: you know, in countless revolutions, But tens of millions of
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  Speaker 6: people have died from Mao's great leap forward and then
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  Speaker 6: the Cultural Revolution to the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and
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  Speaker 6: the civil war that followed. All these people are expendable.
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  Speaker 6: But it's okay because it's for the glorious revolution. The
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  Speaker 6: Nazi said, all these people are expendable because they're just
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  Speaker 6: not really human, and we hate them and we're superior
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  Speaker 6: to them. So at least there was a degree of
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  Speaker 6: honesty that. But the other interesting thing about this is
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  Speaker 6: that it represents the ultimate hypocrisy of the new Left,
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  Speaker 6: which is that it is no longer about the collective.
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  Speaker 6: It's no longer about the greater good. Now, if it
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  Speaker 6: was really about the greater good, what they'd be trying
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  Speaker 6: to do is find out why people were voting for
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  Speaker 6: Donald Trump and how they or their side of politics
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  Speaker 6: could make a more persuasive argument and therefore relieve the
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  Speaker 6: world of this tyrannical dictator, Donald Trump, who apparently is
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  Speaker 6: so harmful in topic.
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  Speaker 2: They will don't.
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  Speaker 6: Actually want to do that, That is the thing they're
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  Speaker 6: not interested in actually achieving a result that would benefit
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  Speaker 6: the collective, that would benefit the whole country. All they
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  Speaker 6: care about is themselves. They have become the ultimate individualists.
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  Speaker 6: And this psychiatrist from Yale University actually says that openly
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  Speaker 6: without even knowing that she's saying it, when she says,
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  Speaker 6: I need to take some space for me. I cannot
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  Speaker 6: tolerate your existence, cannot tolerate family or friendship because I
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  Speaker 6: need this for men.
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  Speaker 2: You know what important.
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  Speaker 6: This is. Greed is good stuff. This is the ultimate
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  Speaker 6: what I need is more important than the harmony of
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  Speaker 6: the family, than the harmony of the community, than Christmas
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  Speaker 6: Day being at several ens.
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  Speaker 1: And these people are saying that with a straight face,
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  Speaker 1: without even realizing what they're saying, and despite the fact
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  Speaker 1: the effing academics from Yale University, like, you cannot make
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  Speaker 1: this stuff up.
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  Speaker 6: This is beyond satire. It is just nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, that's happening over in the States, but we're feeling
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  Speaker 3: it here in Australia too. People on the left just
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  Speaker 3: shutting out anyone with different views.
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  Speaker 7: For sure, And I think it's part of this coddal
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  Speaker 7: culture that we've kind of developed in the West. It's
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  Speaker 7: like anybody who possibly disagrees with me, that that is
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  Speaker 7: interpreted as like a personal attack, and now I'm actually
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  Speaker 7: under threat and my personhood to my very core, is
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  Speaker 7: being challenged by just your presence and knowing that you
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  Speaker 7: somehow disagree with me. So to protect myself, my own security,
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  Speaker 7: I need to take some space for myself, as this
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  Speaker 7: Yale psychiatrist says, and it's completely ridiculous. It's like someone's
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  Speaker 7: political views are not going to hurt you, even if
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  Speaker 7: they disagree with you. We live in a democracy, that's
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  Speaker 7: the whole point. We can change governments, we can change
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  Speaker 7: policies through the ballot and without violence.
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  Speaker 2: Like actually in the.
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  Speaker 7: West, you can have disagreements with people and be safe
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  Speaker 7: because we have democracy. But when people retreat into their
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  Speaker 7: echo chambers and go, oh no, it's too hard, it's
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  Speaker 7: too much of a personal attack being around people that
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  Speaker 7: disagree with me. It's, as Joe says, over time that
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  Speaker 7: actually does creep into growing intolerance, and on the left
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  Speaker 7: it's resulted in the murder of tens of millions.
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  Speaker 6: That's right, and I will continue to be wiped out
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  Speaker 6: by Donald Trump forever as long as the Democrats are
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  Speaker 6: the party that represents that kind of thinking, which again,
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  Speaker 6: so they become parent. Well they have been, frankly, and
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  Speaker 6: they've lost the working class that will just keep losing.
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  Speaker 6: So again, these kinds of idiotic, self indulgent sooks are
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  Speaker 6: going to produce more Trumps, more jd Vanceys, more Tea
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  Speaker 6: Party Republican presidents than any prior movement before them. They
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  Speaker 6: are the greatest gift to the right.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, that psychiatrist was on MSNBC. They love that
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  Speaker 3: kind of viewpoint as well, and people have seemed to
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  Speaker 3: have forgotten that Christmas and Thanksgiving it's about giving thanks
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  Speaker 3: about spending precious, valuable time with the ones people you
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  Speaker 3: have in your life and I've got to be around
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  Speaker 3: forever anyway, it's about for them, it's.
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  Speaker 2: About the self.
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  Speaker 6: Actually, it's about taking care of me in the etaime,
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  Speaker 6: because I feel like you're not respecting my wishes to
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  Speaker 6: be the person that I want to be by being
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  Speaker 6: the person that you are, which to me is unacceptable.
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  Speaker 2: Good accent, that's it, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Bringing it back to Australia now, there's been chaos at
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  Speaker 3: Sydney Beaches. Thousands of people, including tourists and backpackers, have
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  Speaker 3: taken part in a Christmas Day party at Bronte Beach.
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  Speaker 2: And the bad thing about.
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  Speaker 3: This is just the disrespect rather shown by people going
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  Speaker 3: to these beautiful clean beaches and the amount of rubbish
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  Speaker 3: that has been left behind. Some of the images show
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  Speaker 3: bags of rubbish just everywhere, empty beer bottles, wine bottles left.
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  Speaker 2: At the usually clean beach park.
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  Speaker 3: More than two hundred and fifty additional garbage bins were
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  Speaker 3: placed at Bronze Beach by the council in.
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  Speaker 2: Anticipation for this event.
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  Speaker 3: That it appeared to have made no difference, and residents
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  Speaker 3: are really upset about this. They're voicing their concerns about
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  Speaker 3: who's paying for this cleanup. They're suggesting that next year
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  Speaker 3: partygoers should be charged.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty dollars for a cleaning fee.
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  Speaker 3: Just looking at all those images, it looks like a nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: But it's frustrating that there's also an alcohol bound in
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  Speaker 3: place and that appears to get ignored.
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  Speaker 2: Frayer for sure.
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  Speaker 7: I mean there were full on DJ booth set up
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  Speaker 7: like they're pretty enterprising.
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  Speaker 2: I must give them credit for that.
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  Speaker 7: And this is the challenge right Normally I'm pro fun
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  Speaker 7: I'm like all those people complaining about noise you know,
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  Speaker 7: they're shutting down live music left right and center. Pubs
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  Speaker 7: are having to close early. I just think that's the worst.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, come on, let us have fun. Young people
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  Speaker 7: are dealing with enough at the moment. Mental health is
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  Speaker 7: deteriorating rapidly. Like, just let people have fun. But when
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  Speaker 7: fifteen thousand people rock up at a relatively small beach
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  Speaker 7: and trash the place, I struggle to be pro fun
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  Speaker 7: in that instance. And I mean, if you had fifteen
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  Speaker 7: thousand people at any sort of other event, it would
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  Speaker 7: be a massive festival. This looks like a music festival.
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  Speaker 7: This was a huge should be a huge production that
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  Speaker 7: would have a multimillion dollar budget to manage crowds, to
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  Speaker 7: provide cleaning, poor to loose, like all the services that
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: we don't even think about, but that are required when
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  Speaker 7: you're dealing with this many thousands of people. And like,
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  Speaker 7: what happens if someone collapses because of heat stroke or
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: cardiacgress or something. Can you get an ambulance into a
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  Speaker 7: crowd of fifteen thousand people at Bronze Beach?
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  Speaker 2: So it's pretty it's pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 7: I have sympathy for the party goers because I'm like, yay,
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  Speaker 7: good on them, But at the same time it's like
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  Speaker 7: that is insane.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you being profun as much as we can,
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  Speaker 3: especially here in Australia. There are too many rules. But
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  Speaker 3: it's just so sad seeing Bronti Beach like this. And
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  Speaker 3: the difference is it is at a beach. It is
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  Speaker 3: a dangerous environment for tourists, for backpackers who aren't as
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  Speaker 3: familiar with our beaches, and it puts pressure on the lifeguard.
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  Speaker 6: I've got a feel this is something that happens every
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: year in Sydney and people around the country, but no,
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Brontie Beach is one of the most sort of exclusive ritzy,
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: second only probably to bond Die in terms of the
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: most exclusive neighborhood on those eastern beaches, which are the
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: most expensive real estate in the country. I have some
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: pretty strong insights into this. I'm pretty sure I know
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: who is responsible for this, just absolute drunken devastation. It's
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: the Irish, clearly out people. I know them when I
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: see them. I'm an Irish half Irish Catholic myself, and
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: that obviously means Irish Catholic is coded for alcoholic. And
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: what has happened is Ireland has gone so humorless and
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: woke to the point where they've got, you know, pro
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: Palestine protesters entering Christmas Catholic masses and then being applauded.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: It's like, I think you're in the wrong place, guys.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: So that's obviously become so boring that all the fun
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: drunken Irish have come over here in even greater numbers.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: And so you know, the Irish, the drunken Irish backpacker,
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: who is basically the national emblem of Bondi has now
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: descending on neighboring Bronze Beach. And they're not they're not,
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: you know, they're's like, na, how.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: To clean up after themselves?
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: They should learn how to. But this is the other
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: thing that I reckon might hear. So there's this is
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: alcohol ban at Bronte Beach, right, Something tells me it's
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: not working. Something tells me what they know that they
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: get these huge crowds of thousands of people here over
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: the holiday period every summer. Would it not be a
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: better idea? Decadedly send, Okay, we know that you're going
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: to come and get drunk on Christmas Day. They've got
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: no families to go to because they're Irish. And they're
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: fighting with all of them, and so they all come
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: to the one location. You have a controlled environment, you
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: have a regulated environment. You have heaps and heaps and
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: heats and heats and heats and heats at heaps of
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: recycling bins. They never seem to have enough of those.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: It never seem to be easy enough. And if they've
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: put in all these extra bins and there's still that
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: much rubbish there, clearly there's not enough. And again I
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: do not believe that like some people are just pigs,
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: right obviously, and I'm not just talking about the Irish,
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: I'm also talking about New Zealanders. But they all of
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: those bins I'm pretty sure would have been full and overflowing.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: So clearly people are trying to do the right thing,
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: trying to get it in there, and it is just
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: not having so even more bins. Acknowledge there's going to
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: be an alcohol thing, have ranges going through, getting rid
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: of all the paying.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Triple time, be a ticketed event then so they know
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: what they're signing up for that can all be included
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: in the ticket, not not.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: For a price, maybe just simply for crowd control numbers.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: So I don't think I don't like the idea of
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: charging people to go to the beach under any circumstances.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: That is a very you.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Know, drink. Well, they'll just move to the drink they
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: can bring.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: I'll bring their own birds. No, I'm not saying I'm
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: not saying sell them birds. We're saying, right, this is
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: the this is.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: The this is the the way.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: The alcohol.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: So you can come there. Yeah, perhaps with a special case.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: Acknowledge that this is an event that happens, whether council
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: approves it or not.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: You've got drunk people in the ocean, got.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Trunk pet in the ocean anyway, and you've got people who,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: even when they are stone cold sober, simply cannot swim.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: You've got rock fishermen who cannot swim for the love
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: of God and aren't wearing life jackets. That's where some
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: of the worst drownings occur. So that happens anyway. Better
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: to acknowledge the fact that it just happens, and to say, right,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: we're just going to make sure it's clean. We're going
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: to have people on hand to tell me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't really want to reward this behavior.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: People who turning out to these beaches and just completely
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: trashing these feaches.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: It's already anarchy, it's already happening. It's already anarchy. I'm saying,
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: put the resources in to manage it. So you've got
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: rangers that can tell public, keep the music down, if
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: they're bothering people, keep a check on anti social behaviors.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: Clean I acknowledge what you're saying, Joe, and I'm sympathetic
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: to your argument, but the challenge is right, you're it's
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: a public holiday. You're paying people what two point five
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: times are hourly rate. You've got policemen there, mounted policemen,
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: You've got council ranges, you've got all the people involved
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: in the cleanup. This is going to cost money and
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: it's the rate payers of Waverley Council the.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Country.
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: But maybe an answer is Waverley Council just owns this
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: as an iconic.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Institution that happens every cess.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: And then they put it on. But you could actually
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: have like food trucks selling alcohol, so at least you
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: have people with RSAs and then you could enforce the
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: band because if they're was a way for people to
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: get it, but in a responsible way, you would you
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: would be.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: The backpackers aren't going to.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Be I think a lot of people would be trying
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: to do you know food, noales and you know, drinks
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: at the at beaches, and then they go to the
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: backpackers on Christmas Day, I don't know.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: And they're probably not going to be paying for some
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: like gourmet Bronti and I mean, she's Chrissan.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: They just trying to get some French chick drunk enough
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: so they can both go to the back of the back.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: That's all I want to do.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Let's go to politics now that the are but easy.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: It could be in trouble next year's federal election. He's
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: continuing to poll badly. Newspole analysis in The Australian shows
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: that Labor has sheared critical support from middle Australia amid
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: the cost of living crisis. Not only that Labour's lost
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: its edge with female voters both genders and now split
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: fifty to fifty on the two major.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Parties for the first time.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: And the analysis shows that Labor is losing electoral territory
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: and key demographics as well in New South Wales and Victoria.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: So it indicates that Labor is really going to struggle
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: to retain a majority government at the twenty twenty five election,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: and the key issue really is the cost of living,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: especially as families have been struggling with their mortgage repayments
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: and interest rate rises. The Greens are also in trouble
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: according to this analysis, and having lost territory to Labor
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: among younger voters. And this also comes just after Adam
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Bant foolishly boasted about its stance on the on Israel
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: and the Middle East conflict. But it's interesting Albo is
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: really in trouble here.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: It seems.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I just think he's been too slow to act on
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: anti Semitism. He's already bought his retirement home. People are
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: voting with their wallets, They're probably not going to be
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: voting for him again.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: He can't seem to get a lift.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: As we see these news polls at time and time again,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: things aren't turning round for him.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: And I think this all really started with the Voice.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: He's spent a year on the Voice, five hundred million dollars.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: He's been trying to make his mark and he hasn't
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: been able to do it exactly.
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: We have been in a per capita recession for seven
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: quarters seven quarters.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Families have been going backwards.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: People have been taking home less pay after they pay
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: for all the essentials, which have been going up with
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: crazy high inflation. So we just have to think about
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: where is the average family sitting now.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Versus two years ago.
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: In under one hundred and fifty days, we will have
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: an election, and I think Albanez should be extremely worried.
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: And the other problem for Labor is that they really
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: have nothing else up their sleeve. In fact, I think
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: they will avoid releasing another budget before the election because
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: it will be so disastrous for them, and they have
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: zero policy vision or ideas to actually bring down the
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: cost of living other than energy subsidies to solve an
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: energy crisis that they are exacerbating. So the challenges for
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: Labor are immense. If they make if they do a
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: coalition with the Greens or any sort of appeasement of
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: the Greens, I think we'll just get worse because the
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: key areas of kind of policy interest for the Greens
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: are energy, ending all colon gas that is just going
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: to make the cost of living so much worse for families,
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: and so I think Labor is really in a very
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: difficult position now, and once the momentum.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Starts to swing. It is very hard to turn that around.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And we have been seeing.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: Every news poll the coalition has just been eating away
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: at their lead and I don't think that's going to change.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: We have He's just been continuing to poll badly, hasn't he, Joe.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he has. Look, it's not quite the interesting thing
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: about this, and I agree with just about everything. For
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: I said, firstly, there is no way they are going
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: to form a coalition with the Greens. There is no
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: way they are going to sign anything with the Greens.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: In most seats, the Greens probably won't even receive their
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: next preference. They will do a deal with the Cannabis
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: Party instead, who is much more sort of libertarian and
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: fun and they much nicer people. I can promise you
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: that the Greens the legalized cannabis party, and that is
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: something that happened in the Queensland state election, and we'll
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: be replicated at the federal state election. And you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: say the word cannabis is obviously it's very easy to
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: start giggling and have it. And it's even easy to
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: start giggling. But this is part of a serious strategy
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: for Labor to distance itself as much as possible from
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: the Greens. The PM, I can assure you personally hates them.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: They have ruined his life on Palestine. They found outside
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: his electric office. Is they've been you know, they or
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: their supporters have been harassing MPs and their elected officers
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: supporting the defacement of the Australian War Memorial. I mean
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: it's been, you know, it's been absolutely disgraceful and we've
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: seen them go backwards. And the fact that the Greens
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: are now coming out and begging Labor to basically give
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: them a little sugar just shows how desperate they are.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: It's a bit like, you know, you don't go out
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: with you know, you don't get a date with the
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: hottest chick at school by crying and.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: So please, please please, you are please.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: With which is exactly what Adam Bann is doing by
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: trying to say come on government with us, that Labor
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: is going to put itself as far away from the
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: Greens as it possibly can. It's already working according to
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: this newspot. And to be honest, the fact that they
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: are still fifty to fifty two party preferred, given everything
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: that's happened, I reckon that is actually a surprisingly good sign,
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: and that that has been holding that. This is an
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: analysis over I think the last three months of newspots,
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: because you need to add up all the data so
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: you can then break it down. You need that to
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: build that sample size up to about five thousand something
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: like that, And so this is an average of the
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: last three months, not necessarily the last month. It is possible,
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: and I live in hope that after Christmas, a brand
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: new year, people think, well, it can't get any worse.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Maybe there's a prospect of a rate cut, hopefully for
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: the labor before the election, at least almost definitely one
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: or two throughout the course of the year. Maybe that
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: will make people think, you know what, twenty four getting
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: the bin. But maybe things are going to get better.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: Who do I trust more to get me there? Maybe
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: we should give Albow another guard.
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: Instead of I think, I don't think that's going to happen.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: And I think all of the RBA commentary that we're seeing,
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: this was confirmed by the IMF a couple days ago,
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: is that the cost of living crisis we are experiencing
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: now is a result of huge government spending and fiscal expansion.
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: So even if we see a rate cut, it's not
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: actually dealing with the underlying issue, which is government spending,
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: and if labor carries that on all, we're just going
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: to have sustainably higher inflation. Government spending is now making
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: up twenty seven percent of the entire economy is coming
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: from government spending alone. That is one of the highest
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: levels on record. It is hard to see where they
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: go from here because the deficits and even the interest
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: payments on government debt and now one percent of the
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: total budget. So how is this sustainable? So if we do,
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: I think people will serious, they'll look at their wallets,
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: they'll go, Actually, I am poorer than I was two
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: and a half years ago. What is Labour's plan to
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: get me through this? Basically just spend more money on
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: a whole bunch of gimmick policies. Okay, that's not a
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: real solution, given they cause this whole problem. So I
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: don't think I don't think that's going to happen.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of the part and you're right, you're right. Part,
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: I think a lot of it has been though state
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: government spending and state labor governments.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: The problemly and that is it's all labor.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: Government labor governments. That's right, And you know, I often
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: left labor governments who have about as much understanding of
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: economic policy as you know, a horse does of quantum physics.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: But they you know, in Queensland, for example, they went
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: on a massive spending spread in the lead up to
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: election that's now gone and there's a new government in
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: that's going to trim that. Victoria as a result of
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: all it spending has gone flat stone broke, And again
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: you won't see that same excess in South Australia. WA
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: is obviously a different country and Labour's doing quite well there.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: So everything you say is completely correct. But I'm just
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: sort of got my glass half full in front of it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Interesting that we've also heard from Adam urging Anthony Albanesi
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: to cooperate with the Greens rather if there's no clue
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: winner after the election. But it's interesting commentary when the
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Greens are in total themselves.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the Greens are desperate. I think it is, as
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: Joe said, this is a cry for help. It's like
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: we want attention, we want relevance, we need some sort
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: of lifeline year. They know they're going back the campaigns
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: we saw against the Greens at a New South Wales
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: in the New South Wales Council elections run by Better
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: Council were very impressive and effective at pulling back some
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: of the votes and they often went to labor, which
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: I think is fine because I would rather have labor
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: than the Greens. And I think the Greens claim Israel
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: Palestine as a win. I think they are seriously misguided
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: on that. Even if people turn on the TV and see,
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: you know, pictures of dying babies, which is horrible.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: The social division, the.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: Anti Semitism, the fire bombings of synagogues that is not
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: Australia and anyone that promotes those ideas, and so's that division.
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: People like ordinary Aussies who we don't hear on ABC
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: and in the Guardian, they will get to the ballot
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: box and go no freaking way.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: See something even more sinister. And yes, absolutely every really
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: anti Israel candidate really suffered at those local government elections,
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: including not just the Greens but also some in some
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Southwest Sydney seats there more outspoken so anti Israel Muslim
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: candidates did not do well. The other interesting thing though,
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: is that the Greens, if they are smart enough to
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: know what they're doing, which is a big if, but
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: they know that labor. They are in the most powerful
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: position if they hurt labor, if they drag labor backwards.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: So it is actually in their interest to make labor
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: less popular, so that it's minority is so low that
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: they cannot avoid Green's MPs to give them confidence and
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: supply in the Parliament. And they I think how toxic
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: even they must know how toxic their stance on Israel
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: has been in the community, and so they hang that
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: like they know. They hang that up Max Chamber marsk.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Strangely enough, I did say we've got to figure this out.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Then again, they won't say it, but they know that
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: they won't say it, but they will have seen the
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: same polling numbers that everyone else has, and they know
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: that by hanging this and again this will talk about
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: these ideologues who actually don't care if the suffering gets worse,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: or if they even harm themselves, that it's much more
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: important to be ideologically pure. They want to hang that
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: like a millstone around labour. See, labor is just the
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: same as us on Israel Palestine. They know that hurts labor,
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: and when it hurts labor so much that the only
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: way they can possibly function is to crawl on bended
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: knee to the Greens and say, okay, we'll do a
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: deal which will never ever happen. So they're trying to
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: gaslight Labor into a position that it doesn't actually have.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: On Israel, well, let's.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Look at Victoria. The leadership spill is on.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Brad Baton has told John Pasudo that he's going to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: challenge him for the leadership at tomorrow's meeting. The Shadow
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Police Minister is the favorite to replace John Persudo, with
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: supporters estimating he has sixteen votes locked in. Despite this,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: though Shadow Finance Minister Jess Wilson has confirmed that she'll
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: also be throwing her hat in.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: The ring, but it's unlikely that she will win.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: She's someone who supported John Pursudo all the way and
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: voted to expel More Redeeming, but at tomorrow's high stakes
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: meeting one it comes rather just one week after the
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: party gathered to vote on readmitting More Redeeming to the
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Liberal Party, and as we know, John Pursudo used his
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: casting vote to block her return following her court victory
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: over him, and in an effort just to save himself,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: John Pursuito backflipped on Sunday, announcing another party room meeting
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: for January fifteen so Deeming could return, but five MPs,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: including Brad Batton, called for a meeting tomorrow morning to
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: bring the vote forward, so there could be as many
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: as thirty one members voting tomorrow if two absent MPs
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: are allowed to vote remotely And how desperate does John
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Persudo look just wanting two people who are overseas to
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: be allowed to vote when we know the rules are
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: except their exceptional circumstances. If you're not present, you can't vote.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: But tomorrow could really mark a significant turning point for
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: the Victorian Liberal Party, which has been desperate for a
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: new leader for a long time now, and you certainly
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: can't get much worse than what they've had. It would
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: be a big boost, of course to the Liberal Party
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: if it gets back Moiret Deeming tomorrow, who should have
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: never been kicked out in it the first place. But fray,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: the Liberal Party really needs to put this embarrassing chapter
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: behind them.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting what happens tomorrow.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: For sure, for sure, and I've heard some great things
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: about Jess Wilson, but my worry is really the Victorian
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: Liberals right now need a candidate who.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Backed Moira Deeming.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: She has been vindicated, she's one in her case against Persudo.
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: And I think the interesting factor that not many people
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: are considering here is also the Victorian Liberal parties support
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: a base they from my understanding, overwhelmingly stand with more
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: Redeeming and the Liberal Party in Victoria really since COVID
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: has lost a lot of members, a lot of campaigners
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: due to the More Redeeming staff, the sense of factional division,
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: and so I think they need someone who can come in,
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: who can unify the party, who can put that whole
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: terrible chapter behind them and bring back a lot of
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: the members really that they've lost and be a strong opposition.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was amazing. They obviously they made a sort
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: of tactical and strategic decision during COVID that they just
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: weren't going to arc up against Dan Andrews. That just
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: going to let, you know, let Dann be the hero.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: And at the time that same kind of sensible. I mean,
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: you had Dan Andrews being worshiped.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Have I tried to ka, Well, a couple of.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: Them did and and got sort of you know, pulled
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: into line. And then I think one of the most
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: outspoken members drove his car into something, but it was
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: literally a car crash. But again you can see that
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: while that might have been a tactically smart thing, it
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: was perhaps a strategically stupid thing because now that the
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: scales are peeling off people's eyes and think, oh my god,
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: we went through what you know, why weren't we told?
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Why wasn't someone out there? And the moderates of the
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Liberal Party would just had their heads down, and so,
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: you know, don't don't question, you know, just just let
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: Dan just sort of all out and then we'll come
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: back at the end. And so I can understand pursuitos,
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: but it's like the idea that sorry, so you know
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: that casting vote. I just I want to have a
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: do over? Can we have Hey guys, can we have
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: a do over? That wasn't live? Wasn't it? Can we
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: just just do a retake of that? It's just it
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: is so embarrassing. I cannot believe it. At every single
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: juncture of this he has made the wrong judgment call.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: It has just been foulfoul, foul, foul foul. And again
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: it has federal implications because the biggest turnaround for the
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: opposition leaders better. Dudn'sfortunes have been in Victoria. I think
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: they're trying to pick up maybe about four seats. And
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: if the Liberal Party continues as the clown show that
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: it has been recently and quite frankly for years, then
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: that could undermine the federal effort. I might not. I
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: think it's always overstated. Mostly Australian voters know the difference
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: and vote different ways. But you know it's just these
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: guys just need to just be shuffled and you know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: in a shoe box above a cupboard somewhere.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Well, you have to go to a break.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Coming up on the Late Debate, Beyonce has caused controversy
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: with her halftime performance. We'll show you why up to this.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Late Debate. Well, we know the
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: woke try to ruin Christmas for everyone who celebrates, and
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: now they're trying to ruin Christmas carols. Yes, the Church
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: of England priests in the UK have been told to
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: edit popular carols this Christmas in order to avoid unnecessary offense,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: and those.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Singled out as particularly concerning.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Ocmo Emmanuel and Lo He comes Clouds descending. They were
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: also advised to use language that won't add further confusion
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: or tension or take away anything from the good news
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: of the Nativity. Now, this is the last thing we
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: need for hymns to go.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: Work for up. I'm sorry. I had to hate to
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: interrupt there. They're not hymns, they're thems. I'm sorry.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So do you support this then?
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: No, no, you go I'm just I'll say myself, Oh.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: That's shocking, but no, you're one hundred percent spot on there.
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: To change hymns that have been written over hundreds of
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: years now, because all of a sudden we've decided that
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: we can't stand for the truth or for the Bible.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Is genuinely disgraceful.
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: And it's no wonder the Church of England's pews are
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: getting emptier and emptier because the Church no longer stands
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: for the Bible, which is its foundation. And it's interesting,
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: like the Gospels in the Bible open with Jesus saying
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: I am the Way. There are one million ways to
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: be wrong, but according to the Bible, there is one
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: way to be right, and it is through Jesus, and
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: that is what Christmas is all about. Jesus is the way,
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: the truth and the life. You cannot edit carols to
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: distort the entire premise of the Gospel, which is that
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: there maybe there are multiple ways, maybe there are multiple missiles,
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: multiple true religions. It's like, no, you can believe that
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: if you want, but that is contrary to the entire Gospel,
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: the entire church itself. So the fact that the Church
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: of England is now spouting this stuff is crazy. My
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: other the other thing that angered me about this story
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: is they're saying, you can't include any language that would
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: inflame tensions around the Israel Hamas war. And it's like, oh, sorry, yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: Jesus was Jewish, newsflash. And if you're an anti Semite
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: you might find that a bit offensive, but I'm sorry,
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: we don't really want you in the church anyway if
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: you can't deal with the fact that Jesus was a Jew.
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: And in this carol, O Come, O Come Emmanuel, they
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: say one of the lines is basically Jesus has come
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: to ransom captive Israel. And how relevant is that now
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: when you've got hostages who've been being held captive for
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: over four hundred days. This is a chance when the
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: Church should stand with Israel, I should stand against anti Semitism,
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: should be proud of the fact that Jesus was a
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: Jew and just own it. But instead they are cowering
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: and they're destroying the Gospel.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Here I would decay to the Church of England. This
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: is what you get when you break with Rome. Happy
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: Now it is obviously just redicause I was at at
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: Christmas yesterday. I was talking to my in laws and
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: they I said, what's woke? What's woke? You know, I
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: was trying to explain it to them, and in the
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: course of that, I said, look, it's basically all the
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: dumb stuff that people like me when I was at
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: UNI used to believe and spout, and our friends would
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: do it, and you know, the academic mix would do it,
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: and they would still stay there long after and we'd
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: leave and grow up, and the academics would still spout
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: the crazy, dumb stuff, and you know, and the next
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: generation would come out, and then they'd leave and grow
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: up and learn what the real world was like and
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: that will be fine. And then with the advent of
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: social media, of course, all these ideas take fire and
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: suddenly perfectly normal people who've never had to endure an
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: arts degree or a student union election are seeing all
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: this nuts stuff that just looks absolutely crazy, and so
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: of course they say you're crazy, this is insane, this
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: is nuts. And then of course the crazy lefties who
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: are all saying and say, well, then you're a fascist.
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: And then a way we go and you got your
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: first ready made culture. And basically, if you distilled that message,
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: it is know your audience. It's fine when you're saying,
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: you know, a bunch of students saying this crap to
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: each other on campus and out there little rallies, that's
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: fine when it breaks out. Sometimes fine when it breaks out.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: Sometimes it's terrible. But the point is it's usually relatively
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: contained in both time and space. It's usually on the campus,
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: and it's while you're a student, and then you move on.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: And the different between you know, the nineteen nineties and
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: now is that social media has set it ablaze and
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: sent it to people who had just never seen this
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: crazy stuff before. And again, no your audience. One of
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: the objections they have with Low. He comes with clouds
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: of the so called quote unquote problematic words that state
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: that Jesus is the quote unquote true Messiah. Now, if
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: you don't think that Jesus is the true Messiah. You're
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: probably not at that Anglican service on Christmas Day, right
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: If you are, if you think it's Muhammad, that's fine,
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: but you're probably lost. And the best thing instead of
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: editing the carols would be for a nice perission is
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: they know the mosters is down that way, have a
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: lovely day, you know, happy Ramadan whatever. And so these
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: people are just so preoc and again it becomes not
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: about the audience, not about the greater good, not about
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: the people, the service you do with the people, but
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: all about me. How I am so pure and thoughtful
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: and concerned about other people that I've identified this problem
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: that no one else as is insightful and sensitive and
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: concern and caring to identify. And then they talk about
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: you know, you know, we don't want anything that could
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: further inflame the situation between Israel and Palestine, the situation
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: in the Gaza strip. And here I'm not sure. I'm
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: not sure if the Archbishop of Canterbury has a television
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: or access to the internet. Maybe these and Wi Fi,
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: but it's already pretty inflamed. And I'm pretty sure it
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: wasn't started by a bunch of godless protties seeing Christmas carols.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: We have to move on to the US.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: The University of Minnesota is looking for gender davers children
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: as young as five years old to play with transgender dolls.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: For a research project. This is in Fox News today.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: The University of Minnesota is offering to pay parents of
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: transgender and gender diverse children to have their kids play
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: with unconventional dolls complete with genitals. The National Center for
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Gender Spectrum Health at the university said that we're looking
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: to hear from transgender and gender diverse children between the
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: ages of five and ten years old and their parents
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: about and new hands on activity to help talk about
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: gender and bodies.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: University noted that it'll pay.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Around twenty dollars or between twenty and sixty dollars per
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: group for the studies, and families will be asked for
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: their feedback on this so called new therapeutic tool called
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: my Gender Dolls.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Pray.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: This is so sick, gender diverse as young as five
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: young children. Why is this nonsense getting pushed on to
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: parents and young children.
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: The idea that a kid could even get a doll
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: with all these like different genitals and internal organs and
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: clothes and then somehow express their innermost feelings about their
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: identity through this doll in a really meaningful way. I
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: wanted to be a unicorn when I was five, Like,
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: come on, someone had taken me into a university been like, so,
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: how do you feel these wild animals express your inner identity?
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I would have been seriously confused.
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: The job of a parent is to teach a child
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: what is and isn't real and help them understand their
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: place within an objective and.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Very real reality.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: You cannot treat kids as though they are the parent
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: and they have this like internal expressive identity that just
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: needs to be let out through gender diverse dolls. It's
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: fantasy land and it will damage these children absolutely well.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Just quickly.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: The Internet has erupted after Beyonce's halftime performance at the
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Christmas Day game between the Houston Texans and the Baltimore Ravens,
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: and the singer entered the stadium on a horse and
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: performed songs from her most recent album. But the Internet
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: is reacting after the pop star made a gun.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Gesture with her hands.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: There she is and now so Several NFL stars have
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: made these gestures after a touchdown, but the league has
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: been cracking down on these demonstrations that potentially include gestures
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: of violence, and game officials have thrown flags at those
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: who have made them. We've heard from the NFL executive
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Troy Vincent in an October meeting saying that there's no
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: place in professional football for that. So now the Internet
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: is erupting Joe and people are saying, is Beyonce going
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: to get fined for this?
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: I just want to know she bloods or crips? I
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: thinking again, you know, just like the entire conflict between
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: Israel and Palestine started because of someone singing the old
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: lyrics of a Christmas carol. Gun violence in America is
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: a problem because Beyonce did this. Yeah, like, carry on, we.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Have to go to a break. But stay with us.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: We're going to look at how the Royal family celebrated Christmas.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the late debate. Well, Prince Louis. Vision
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: has emerged of him absolutely beaming as he accepted boxes
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: of Cadbury chocolate.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Take a look at that look and the smile says
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: it all.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I'll be smiling like that too if I was gifted
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Cadbury chocolates by members of the public. But there he
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: is enjoying his moment at Christmas. But on what grounds
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: should Christmas be canceled? My opinion, absolutely none. But a
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: wife has revealed that she has canceled Christmas after her
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: husband bought an expensive gift for his friend instead of her.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: So the twenty eight year old took to social.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Media to explain that her partner splashed out one hundred
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: and fifty dollars on the friend, but only twenty dollars
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: on her.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Look, Joe, what do you make of this?
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I think someone needs to remind her it's not all
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: about the Christmas present.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: Well, who we need to unpack this bit gab. Firstly,
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: it was not just a friend. It was a gaming buddy,
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: which I feel like undermines the whole thing. And the
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: twenty dollars gift was a candle. I like a candle,
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah I know, but the candle is also the quintessential
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: gift that a husband gets his wife when he has
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: no idea what she actually likes, what she does. No, no,
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: no no no. Women love candles. Men just men have
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: no respect for candles, and so by virtue, it's a
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: lack of respect for It's also foolish because she can
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: use it to set fire to him and shove it
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: where the Sundays.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Is she right though, to cancel Christmas is not hosting?
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: Yes? Absolutely, yep, yep, I'm an ally Yep.
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: No, I don't think cancel Christmas. But I think make
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: him feel really really bad that he's screwed it up,
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: and maybe shame him in front of all the other
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: guests that are coming over.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can actually cancel Christmas. And then
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: he's written about and on social media.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: If you really want to ask, lad.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: Cancel Christmas? Just ruin it?
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: But an online gaming friend, and what do you get
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: an online game friend? Is this like the AI chatbot
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: girlfriend situation? Because then I would really have sympathy for her.
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that his online gaming buddy is Foxy
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: bubble Toes.
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's the red flat and he's bought a
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: ninety minute chat session or something so.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: Bad listens to it. Candles, We have.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: To go thank you so much for your company this
• 49:04
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