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DER DOWNFALL ITALIENS: Warum die Azzurri schon wieder die WM verpassen · Amici Im Abseits

• Gennarino: Hello my friends and welcome to the second episode of our podcast on MeChim Upside. Today with us Andreas and Adriano, the two Juventini, Michele and Giovanni, the two Milanese and my little Gennadino, the only Interista in the podcast. In last episode we talked about the downfall of Milan and Juve. If you missed that, then feel free it out and enjoy the episode. Amici: Hmph. Gennarino: Today we talking about a downfall of Italy. And we are what is the why we are not as strong as we used be. So, I will go straight to Andreas and I am excited to what you have about Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Welcome. And what can say? We screwed up. We for third time in a row. Why? We can a lot about what it was about. Because the end it's right, because the problem didn't solve Amici: Yes. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Gawina left, Buffon left, our head coach Rino Gattuso The problem still Now we have the opportunity to on young people with to away the pressure for the Senators or the older generation. J4Life: Okay. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: The current games we have on Wednesdays Mondays against Luxembourg, if I'm not mistaken, and Greece, Silvio Baldini, example, U21 coach, said, I'll my players with now. That means U21 will on Wednesdays Mondays. And as far I know, he'll these two games as... Amici: Thank you. Gennarino: Yeah, looks like a bridge then. And that's the question. Do you really think that the old Italy national team is no longer there? Because I don't The old players will end up back on the pitch. And that's the problem, I think. It can't be. They won't any pressure. They know exactly. In my opinion, they just a temporary holiday. They will end up back on pitch. Calcio_Unzensiert: Ich hoffe nicht. Amici: No, no. ⁓ Calcio_Unzensiert: But a question for you now. you agree or not agree that everyone is gone? I am also for Amici: Absolute. Absolute. Gennarino: Absolut! Absolut! Juve.talk.by.andr3as: So for these two games, yes. Calcio_Unzensiert: No, I mean in Gennarino: We can't forget it. We are doing very badly which is bad at But we can't forget that we didn't qualify In every other group, we are through. We didn't have to against Bosnia. We North Ireland. But... Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Ne allgemein nicht. J4Life: Okay. Gennarino: We have at the other side, we did 18 points and with 18 points we did qualify directly. J4Life: Exactly, every other band it wouldn't have happened, because they didn't strong second bands like us in the band. That's another Gennarino: Exactly. Absolutely. I just saw that the second-placed with the highest points had 17 points. The second-placed. That means we every group. Nevertheless, I would it again, Bosnia you to win, against Norway you actually to win as as Italy, four-time world champion. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: So it's also system. qualification system. Mm-hmm. Gennarino: So now I'm absolutely sure that all players need a break Nevertheless, we must forget that we still have good players in the national team. Even if most them are against and say that Inter are out, but we must forget that Dimarco. Amici: absoluteness Gennarino: one of the left wing defenders a bastoni one of the best inside defenders yes yes it is yes it is yes Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Let's start! Calcio_Unzensiert: Now comes this inter-politics Amici: Yeah, Vabonova. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah, it's so, it's so, it's and then Bastoni gets a red card and we... J4Life: So, now we a problem. Gennarino: Bastoni got the red card! But was he only one to If Keane had goal, then we would about else. You all talk about... I'm you, because most of you... Calcio_Unzensiert: Gennari no, Gennari no, Keane is, I the most aggressive in the whole game. So if someone something else, it happens. It happens. Gennari happens, every best voice. J4Life: Okay. Gennarino: But still, he the goal. If he had scored, it something completely different Juve.talk.by.andr3as: The strongest defender of Italy, in the the E-League, no where he plays, he could also for Juventus. an You, as the strongest defender, you don't in You don't go in after how many minutes and provoke a red card. Let him through. Let him 1-1. Gennarino: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. J4Life: Thank Gennarino: And then he scored, and everyone would said, yeah, Bastoni, what a bad defender, he didn't stop. Yeah, he just it now, because it happened now. Yes, after that, you can always well. But wait a briefly, with ten men, does that that you to lose with ten men? The Bosnians have already put the eggs on our heads Even with eleven men where we were. That has nothing with Bastoni. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: No! No! J4Life: What? What? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Maldini wouldn't have done that. Amici: Yeah. J4Life: You had a problem before, you had a problem before, when you the situation go. That shouldn't have to the card, if the defense had been It's not about Bastoni, it's not about Bastoni, it's about the complete defense. Amici: Buddha Buddha Gennarino: Who the mistake? Who made mistake? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Arella Gennarino: No, not Barela. I think was Río and Bío. Donald Ruhm shot the ball forward and made Or? Erich Wittgen. J4Life: But the complete defense, the complete defense has been overrun. So that it this situation at all. That Bassone is not the fastest, we know that. So that's wouldn't blame Bassone but the Do you That means that it comes to this situation it shouldn't all. Do you Gennarino: But as I said, you have to... Calcio_Unzensiert: Let Giovanni say about Amici: I don't to say anything, guys. No, Brother, I'm to right and you're right. But I'm trying to say and I can't say because they're all to hell. The whole team, Mastoni, Peroni, Gollioni, whatever they're called, to hell. They're players who aren't worthy. These colours... Calcio_Unzensiert: Jove, shoot! Gennarino: You're very very quiet, or am just you quiet? Amici: So, tell me. J4Life: you Amici: Finish, slicer. Calcio_Unzensiert: I'm not with you. Should I something? Look. I think it's good that everyone got Yeah. Do it, do J4Life: 9-11 is good. Amici: Okay, wait a minute. I wanted to the sentence. I wanted to the sentence. don't any of these 11 guys who walked there, that only half of these only half them, get the honor to this shirt. They were trash. They were all As they all say, I just said. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: I can't it anymore. Gennarino: I hear you very very quietly, sorry. Calcio_Unzensiert: have to repeat myself, Jova didn't hear Amici: Last one. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah, the connection... Amici: So, that's the stats. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: So don't worry guys, can edit this. So eighth minute, I've this mind. J4Life: Thank Amici: That's me. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yes, but about your bamboo line, I think. Gennarino: Echt? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: I don't what he says. J4Life: Yeah. Amici: So, what do you miss now? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Like I said, don't worry, we can edit It's not live. Amici: That's image. That's image. Calcio_Unzensiert: You have to do it again. Now, now. Now, perfect. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yes, yes, better. Motivate your brother. So, so from now on, from now again. I have to cut. Gennarino: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay. J4Life: It's best to from the beginning. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: You know. Gennarino: So question was what Giovanni about Amici: Bro, honestly, I'm listening you, I'm to follow you and I'm course in tune in everything you said. Okay? But I don't any of them in the national team. Bastoni, Peroni, Colloni and whatever they're They all to be They all have to be eliminated. Bro, wait a Wait a minute, please. Wait. None of these lackeys, these lums. Gennarino: But won't happen! That won't happen! And that's what I'm J4Life: Okay. Okay. Amici: They would have gotten hits no matter who. They would have gotten hits sooner, brother. None of these guys are worthy of these colors on their chest. End of Mickey Mouse, brother. None. None. Because you have to spit You have to spit when you for Italy, brother. And if you don't do that and you're not able to three seconds, get Get out. You are... Gennarino: absolute absolute Amici: The oath of the Italian national team. Each one you. For the Reconione. For it. Here. Very simple. Oh, we have to dig bro. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: We have to with the little ones. Gennarino: Yes, of course. But honestly, look at the Italian teams. You talk about Inter, Inter... Okay, if we put the Inter players aside, where do we the Italian players? Where do we Apel, Rom, Milan, Juve? Where do we Inter? Calcio_Unzensiert: Gennarino, this inter on the Gennarino: I am absolutely for it. I tell you honestly, a DiMarco doesn't as as an Inter. A Bastoni doesn't as well Inter. But it starts with the clubs that we can't an Italian up anymore. Where are the Italians? If a Bastoni had competition, if a DiMarco had competition, that would be quite different. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Geno Geno Amici: Do the interplayers... Exactly. And do players from the interplayers to the side. Yes, for example. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: The problem are the employees, the managers. That's the problem. That's the problem. Please at Komo. The employees of Komo. They have pressure because they don't Italian players. And they have to Champions League. We have to Italians so they Champions League. But before you a Spaniard through the Serie A. Gennarino: Yeah! Come on! Yeah. J4Life: Okay. Gennarino: That's cool. Amici: But, uh, Jenary, I get back you brother. It's not just a Bastoni from Inter, a DiMarco from Inter, who, as you said, don't for the national team, and Inter they're just exceptional players. Okay? same applies to a Politano. Politano against Bosnia was the last piece of that ran brother. Against Aztemailand, he plays like Maradona in his prime, brother. Gennarino: And that's, you know. Amici: and shoots us 1-0. Do you what I mean? So, guys, where are we? Gennarino: Yeah, absolutely! Calcio_Unzensiert: Should I say about it? Look, Serie A, you already noticed, they only foreign players. They buy a player who this whole package. But this little boy up to play and him this Italian game, this Italian league, they don't that. They want this whole package. J4Life: The whole problem is mental. Calcio_Unzensiert: Throw it in, here, it. But this big pull here for the national team... not Amici: No, this big sense... Brother! Gennarino: Now one question. How many years has Maldini debuted at Milan? J4Life: 16 or 17 Amici: With 17. 16, 17, yes, exactly. Gennarino: 16 and half I that was it. Yes, but it doesn't what the hate Donald Rumer is, Donald Rumer is a good goalkeeper. I wouldn't say he is the best goalkeeper we've because we've had goalkeepers with... But Donald Rumer is a good goalkeeper, I have to say. And he also debuted Juve.talk.by.andr3as: But Donnarumma too, at 16. With Donnarumma, shortly before 16. Calcio_Unzensiert: Natürlich. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: I bet. Buffon, for example, was the third goalkeeper. He was third choice for Barma. Then Peruzzi and Dings got injured. The second goalkeeper for Barma, I can't remember. But they got injured. Buffon played the game of life for Barma. ⁓ From there, up. And Cannavaro, for example. Gennarino: Yeah! Amici: So. J4Life: Yeah, the problem is, they mostly get songs. We usually don't a chance. Nowadays, do you do to a 16-year-old like La Minyamal? You don't a chance. They don't you in. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Hmm? Amici: What the? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: In Barcelona, yes, but not Italy. Gennarino: No, Eben! You no these foreigners because they just want ready-made games! J4Life: No, in Italy. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: But wait, not only foreigners. It's just about the foreigners. It's about the officials, I the managers, who prefer a 39-year-old in instead of an Italian 20-year-old who maybe hasn't fully but who brings enthusiasm, rhythm, courage, do you what I mean? These things that maybe... Now nothing against Modric, but... Amici: . Juve.talk.by.andr3as: If a Madrid player has he to his power. He has to 30-40 games a year, so he power under control. But an Italian Borja Botana, doesn't have that problem. He would 90 minutes a Gennarino: Yeah, let's split Calcio_Unzensiert: Richie. Richie. Amici: No, Leute. There is only one country in this world, one country, one country that tackled this problem to bone and showed that this how it And that is the country where I am now, in Spain. All other countries can't that. All other countries are losers, brother. Take away the other countries. They don't a from football, brother. Please, please, please. J4Life: Yeah. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah, it's so. Gennarino: onion. J4Life: The example is now Tresoldi. Tresoldi, you give the boy no chance. You have to to Belgium so that he many goals. So what is that? What is it to Do you Juve.talk.by.andr3as: in. over 16 goals and he also Champions League. He still not nominated. And what did Nagelsmann say? I Dressol with me, because otherwise I Undaft and others at But next time I'll him with so he for Germany. And we Italians, what do we We don't him with us. We don't him with us. Amici: Protect. We can it around and cry, Spain won the European Championship. A few years later we again, Spain won World Championship. But they it under control. If you want get some tempos from the DM and make sure that your loser country is again. Spain is number one. If I out now and my phone with me, J4Life: you Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Hahaha J4Life: So Amici: You see 30 kids kicking brother. You see 30 kids kicking. 30. 30. Gennarino: I think that happens in Italy too. In Italy, you see these children too. But they are not respected They are simply not respected. I think so. J4Life: Okay. Okay. Amici: No, no, the times are over. No, Not as bad as here, bro. Not as sick as here, bro. Believe me. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: But I have to say, in Italy the problem is not like in Germany where every 6 months 50 or 80 euros. There you pay 600 to 800 euros a year to in a club. Calcio_Unzensiert: Im Jahrzeit zu des Amici: for J4Life: Depending on the club, of course, but still, that's very high. Gennarino: Yeah, I can. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Logically, it's very high. Of course, it's very high. Amici: The problem was Allegri one and a half months ago at a press conference at Milan. He said... Did you hear me? Oh, I was at the microphone. It's No, everything's He said, how can that be? How can that be? It's now in Italy. It's now in Italy. J4Life: Does put him Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Can you repeat that? Yes, yes, can you... No, no, if you it back that... Sorry, sorry... Gennarino: you J4Life: LAMEN Amici: more youth have for tennis than for football. How can that be? I'll you that can Because we no longer a main character End of Mickey Mouse. In tennis we have a Yannick Sinner who everything backwards and the kids grab him. The kids have an idol again. Brother, beg you, what of idol Who do we as an idol? Who? Who? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Got say thank. J4Life: That's the... Right, when? Now I have a question. When did we have the last nine? When did we the last real nine? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Stony Gennarino: Andreas! Amici: I'm Calcio_Unzensiert: Heh, lange, das lange ja. Amici: Look at Tony. J4Life: So, so, so. And we were one of the best countries that had the best 9s a few years ago. You know what I mean? And that's the problem. Amici: Vergonya Gennarino: I'm out. Did you the interview of Baldini? Did you the press conference of Baldini? He exact right to say that this man has balls. man has balls. Namely, this man said that it doesn't in Italy because all clubs only about their shit. About their press. The national team about that. First of all, it's their interest. And that's it Italy anymore. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Other times. Yeah? Yeah. Amici: Apollo, it's been a show. J4Life: Make the man the first coach! Calcio_Unzensiert: Yeah. Bravo. J4Life: You know. Amici: Of course. Of course. Gennarino: is einfach so. Calcio_Unzensiert: I read that Spain, England and Germany have the best training centers to young players. And Italy is of them. Italy is in ⁓ Juve.talk.by.andr3as: That's also important. BWAH Gennarino: But Germany... Germany is stronger than Germany... You know that the last two World were the group stage, right? They are qualified, but they the group stage. Calcio_Unzensiert: Yes, Gennarino is... Germany has let up, but Germany has good training centers here. So the center... better than in Thailand, definitely. The center of Germany is okay. Bayern, VfB and everything. Amici: Germany has also left J4Life: Michael! Michael! Michael, tell me what you go on, to the right of the screen. Go on, go on, go on. Amici: Better than in Italy, definitely. about music. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: I see you. A bit further to there. Now repeat that please. I'll that. Repeat that please. Calcio_Unzensiert: Germany has better training centers to train the kids. Kickers, VfB, Bayern, Hoffenheim, BVB. They train the kids. In Italy, I don't anything Amici: Revacuzen. J4Life: Yeah, but look at this. Gennarino: What I don't understand is that we also have idols like Roberto Baggio and Paolo Maldini who are still active. Why aren't they those? That's what Roberto Baggio said. Why are they simply ignored? I don't J4Life: They don't them. They don't them. They don't them. Because such old sacks... Because such old sacks... Because such old sacks like Gravina... That are in a shit-dirt. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: He 900 pages! Amici: Bravo Gennarino: ⁓ I'm really pissed off! Calcio_Unzensiert: here. Amici: Bravo. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Do that Malagou will change anything with Malagou? Amici: Nein, Null. Null. J4Life: Auf mich, auf mich! Calcio_Unzensiert: I so. Gennarino: No, it won't change. It won't change. It's just like... I well, I can understand it with with Paolo Maldini, they're Chinese or... no, they're Americans. Americans, right? With Milan. They shit on the Italians and stuff. But we have a Paolo Maldini there, who's actually more or less free. I'm pretty sure with a Paolo Maldini we would... Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Thank you, ⁓ Amici: Please not here. Brother, a Polo Maldini... ⁓ Brother... Juve.talk.by.andr3as: You'd better go to Turkey. J4Life: Yes. ⁓ Gennarino: double as much success. Just because Paolo Maldini knows what he's That's what I saw I'm intervist, but I have to say that what Paolo Maldini at Milan has worked more or less. Amici: I'm Paulum or And also Paolo Maldini is a very smart man, He does this garbage as little as he Arz Meiland. If he wanted to it this, as soon as this one doll head is gone from Meiland, he'll be back. But he doesn't the garbage. He's looking. J4Life: Okay. Gennarino: Yeah, but I the way he was out. Amici: No, but also because of Italy. Also because of Italy. If he the chance to to Fenerbahce, where there structure, where everything regulated, where you a plan, then you Paulu Maldini, at Fenerbahce, my friend. Very simple. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: But you know... Do you know why Baldini... Amici: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, J4Life: Leshalish. Leshalish. Calcio_Unzensiert: But can I say about this 600 or 800€ you said? With the registration and this monthly contribution. Jürgen, I think it's really shitty. So look, you have to 800€ so you in a club. Now here for example at the VfB. At the VfB here in Germany it's like this. There one parent part, I've noticed, has to sign. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: And if this is. Gennarino: The of the Italian youth. Calcio_Unzensiert: that he always takes the child with him. So one part has to work, the other part of has to take him. To Augsburg, Karlsruhe. But why, why, and look, you have to invest invest, invest. For what? football. In the you support this child to the nation up with it. J4Life: you get something know, that's. Gennarino: We are about small clubs here, not about Bistutka. Small clubs can't afford they have pay bills. Calcio_Unzensiert: Yeah, but it doesn't matter. I'm just It's the same thing, but if you 600-800 euros... Amici: Oh, guys, we're about VFP. Don't do that. Andre, can you that out if possible? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yes. Okay, I'll it So, minute 23. Calcio_Unzensiert: It's not just about this club. It's not just about this club. Amici: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I know. Yeah, Devil, yeah. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: But we want to talk who is Daniel the Calcio_Unzensiert: But it's also possible... No, no, I don't mean apart from this club. Why do you so much money to go up there? To play But then you don't to be surprised. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Because they want that Because clubs that invest their time for a teenager. It's always about money. Nobody does anything for free. Except us. We're this out passion. J4Life: I do not. Amici: Thank J4Life: It's only about money, it's not about the person themselves. It's only about money. Calcio_Unzensiert: But every normal person knows... But look at this... Every normal person in Italy doesn't much money. How can you 600, 500 or 400 euros for your child to football? No one can You don't to wonder if no talent comes Right? J4Life: Not online. Amici: Bravo! ⁓ J4Life: For you, for you. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Then you don't That's the Then they don't play. Yes. Amici: Yeah, don't spilt so much, can I have a bravo? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Exactly. I know. But not everyone is like For Baldini as a coach. Why wasn't he successful? He's the only coach who took over a team La Carrarese, and he didn't his salary. He's the only one who said, if I get on... Amici: But bro... But bro... is Yeah. So Leute, brauchst du. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Okay, you me more money. If not, then not. He that a year. Think about And not only that, Baldini, why doesn't Baldini train big clubs now? Because he, I wrote that down now, I hope that's right, because he his own decisions of the club leadership. That's it. Exactly, exactly. He said, exactly, he said, if I don't Calcio_Unzensiert: Stuck. Stuck. J4Life: You. Gennarino: And that's what deserves! And that's what he And that's what he Juve.talk.by.andr3as: with the club management, with the manager, the same length of For example, young players, old players, which players do we have to play, etc. Then he said, you what, I'm going. I'm going. He trained 6,000 different teams. He also four teams in the C?A. He trained Tadania, he trained Barma. J4Life: Have a good day. Calcio_Unzensiert: Bravo! Right, right! Amici: Yeah. Gennarino: Yeah. Amici: Thanks Juve.talk.by.andr3as: In Italy Palermo was very successful. Then Zamparini was where he to a coach at the CDB. Then he locked up. Baldini is what is Italy. And I see many that they criticize because he just like that, because he impulsive, because he is an idealist and because he often unpredictable. J4Life: You know. Amici: No. J4Life: Look at the U21. They are one of the best teams in the U21 And that's not from anywhere. That's not from anywhere. That needs a coach who has You can see that in this moment, what he's how he's in front of the camera and saying Do you And that also means that he his team. And that's even more important. And you'll see how they the next two games. Do you they'll be like, okay, look... Amici: Yeah. Yeah. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah. Yeah. Amici: Yeah. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah. Gennarino: Yeah, but that's also the next one. J4Life: Luxemburg okay, wait, wait, Luxemburg okay? Don't me your backers are coming back, otherwise I'll you But wait a these players don't even a screen. Nobody has seen them yet, except when you the U21. That means now they more opportunities to show because more people are to it than before. Do you Who knows this guy from Bradford? Gennarino: No, no, it's not possible, no, it's not not up there, no, no, no Juve.talk.by.andr3as: I do it. I can do it. J4Life: Exactly, we know him from FIFA. Yes, congratulations. ⁓ Juve.talk.by.andr3as: But why didn't Rino Gattuso bring it? He it. Why he bring J4Life: Exactly. Why didn't half of the players get a chance to on a bench? Do what I mean? Exactly, that's you yourself. But now can show And now they'll see what kind of wood they're made No which team it's Do you Calcio_Unzensiert: Why? Why? Gennarino: Yes, but what's point of these friendly matches now? What's point of these friendly matches now? What's point? Against Luxembourg? Luxembourg is a district league team. Calcio_Unzensiert: I'm the truth! J4Life: But if you don't start now, when? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: I'll explain why. I'll explain what this makes Because, he said and I agree 100%. If you these colors, there are no friendship games. Because if you this color and this shirt, you play for the honor and for what you are. And as an Italian. There are no friendship games. Gennarino: Okay? J4Life: Zo, zo, zo. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: That's it. French players can clubs. Juventus do But if you wear you honor. You have to bleed And not if an interview comes up. What would you like to Champions League with Inter or the World Cup? I heard something else from someone else. Gennarino: Okay. Okay. J4Life: When should the boys show up? When should they... Gennarino: Absolut. World Championship. J4Life: So, so, and that's the difference, that's the difference, porco cazzo, that's the difference. Gennarino: What? No, for me, Italy is the best. Italy is ⁓ Juve.talk.by.andr3as: But not all! But not all think so! J4Life: Because he never a World Cup. That's he like that. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Guys, our last World Cup was in 2014 in Brazil, when we against Uruguay in And there was Buffon, Barca and Bonucci, as an J4Life: If you my 13 year old son... If you my 13 year old son, okay? If you my 13 year old son, you play for Juventus and you for the Italian national team. What is better He says 100 % Italian national team, okay? And that's the difference. Do you that? You have for the country. Fuck the club. Gennarino: You were spiela by the way Yeah, okay. Now I what you mean. There are enough people who just... who... who... who... who... J4Life: And that's we're where we are. That's why we're where we are. Three men behind each Not fucking WM. You're You're And never out Amici: But guys, can I... Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah. Amici: Okay guys, may I say We've many topics and I topic today because I it's an important part of everything that happened. Many people see or say that it's Gattuso's I think this statement... Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Again Yeah, yeah, again. Gennarino: That's it. J4Life: Okay. Okay. Calcio_Unzensiert: Fulch. Amici: We make it all too easy for ourselves, if we so. We have remember that Gattuso took over the national team in in a heap left behind by Spalletti. Right? And we weren't that bad. We weren't that bad. We had 5-0 against... Who was it? 5-0. Estonia, Israel, no idea. But won, did and we Okay? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: ⁓ huh. Calcio_Unzensiert: Yeah. J4Life: Okay. Amici: And now comes the important thing in the whole matter. I think that's my opinion. You don't have to share I think that Abagatuso, after I saw where we flew out, was on the and a point where he didn't what do anymore because we many individual players who didn't know how to with their ego. Of the national team, not everything was Of course, Gattuso had a huge share the He players with him, he replaced players he shouldn't have But just to go this weight, I is wrong. I think it's way too easy. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah. Gennarino: No, Gattuso is not alone guilty, but as you said, he also guilty. Very simple. Because for me, Gattuso actually good job. But against Bosnia, I blame him for bigger one. Because he has my... I mean, of after the game, everyone coach and everyone knows it better. I know it. But I think he made decision. Calcio_Unzensiert: It's not correct. It's not correct at No, no. Amici: His accomplice, yes. Gennarino: like example to in an Esposito instead of a super Keen. What does an Esposito young guy alone in the was a mistake After we the red card and we only with one storm, Keen stayed it and not Esposito. Why didn't Palestra in earlier? Calcio_Unzensiert: Mm. Amici: you Generally, you who said that? He should do that, do you that? Bonucci. Gennarino: Yeah. What? Because of Esposito? Amici: Yes, for example. He... Look, I don't him... I want him... Stop. Yes, yes, exactly. Apparently not. And we have the problem, what I'm Apparently he was at a point of despair. And I'm that because he's Calabria, an icon of AC Milan. Not all. I'm out it. Because... Because one color is one color. Let's put these teams aside, internal Italian teams. I think... Gennarino: Yeah, but at least he's the trainer that the decision. Yeah. For me, no colors in the national team. Amici: I thought it was that he, the one who has a mentality of a bull, came to a point with this team where he couldn't get I think a shame. And that's what he, Gattuso, the team, overcame. Because the team... Brother, Bosnia vs. Italy looked like Heidenheim vs. Bayern. I agree. You know? Gennarino: And that's what right? Calcio_Unzensiert: Yeah. Amici: So, and he told them. What did tell them? He told Why did he tell them? Because there no security. On no side, I, as an AC Milan fan, say Italy, the Italian national team and AC Milan are not that far apart, brother. It's same garbage. Believe me. J4Life: Yes, because the fish starts on the head and that's the problem. So, and you have to cut the head first so that the fish doesn't stink Amici: Bravo, bravo, bravo. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Have we already? Have we? Amici: Bravo. Gennarino: Yeah, and no, not really. The stinking body has grown. Amici: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Calcio_Unzensiert: Nah. J4Life: So. So. So. And that's the problem. The dots up there, won't get less, they'll get more. And you have to get of And as long that doesn't happen, we won't the fourth WM Amici: Bravo! Bravo! Calcio_Unzensiert: I think it doesn't matter, it doesn't them. Amici: That's why I it reminds me of AC Milan. You know what I mean? It reminds me AC Milan. It doesn't Look, who is it? Guys, just to a question. Who the guy who said in Italy? What's his J4Life: Zoop. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: pain. Calcio_Unzensiert: Bravo, bravo, yeah. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Kinda. Calcio_Unzensiert: I skip kind of rubbish. Amici: But there is also one who is likely to take What is of this bird? Malagor, please me about his life cycle. What he to do Who is that? I don't him. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Malago. Malago. Gennarino: Malago. J4Life: Zoom. I don't him, I'm you honestly. I don't even him. Gennarino: ⁓ Malagor, I didn't even who Aziz Who is Malagor? Calcio_Unzensiert: I don't this guy Juve.talk.by.andr3as: I know him from the youth department, as far I know. He was under Gravina. He also something with football. Calcio_Unzensiert: I don't- Gennarino: But if you ask the Italians how many percent will Malaga? Honestly! Calcio_Unzensiert: So a youth leader is now president J4Life: 95 % don't him. So. So, and if you do already... Amici: I'm bored. Bravo. Bravo. Gennarino: I also say yes. all hoped, 95 % of the people hoped that a Maldini, a Badjo, a Del Piero and no idea what to mix it. Nothing happened. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: I say so too. And don't forget, he's also an Interfan. Amici: Hehehehehe father Calcio_Unzensiert: I honestly don't a del Piero there. I a Maldini there, but not a del Piero or anything else. Maldini has already Milan and he Milan in the right direction. Gennarino: Yeah, but- Juve.talk.by.andr3as: No, that's the one. Amici: Mikke, should I you my combo? Roberto Baggio Maldini del Piero e Totti? Wouldn't you like brother? Wouldn't you like see that? Gennarino: BOMB! BOMB! Calcio_Unzensiert: Brother, Maldini, Bajo and so on, Yes. But... J4Life: You have the areas, sports management, youth department, what do know, second youth department, and so on. That has to from the beginning. Bajaj didn't write about 900 to 1,000 pages for so that someone understands. You can't just say, we'll in the middle and then we'll up. That doesn't You have to the peak upwards. You have to the 6-year-olds, 7-year-olds, 8-year-olds and keep working. Otherwise, doesn't Because they ignored They ignored what Bajudah wrote. They didn't even read through. Because it from them, but from someone else. Amici: Brown. Just. Calcio_Unzensiert: But why don't they that? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: But they can't structure. Calcio_Unzensiert: BAH! ALORA! J4Life: Okay? And that's the difference. they don't anyone in who doesn't belong in in their opinion. So. So. A Bajor has more experience than everyone in Everyone. Okay? A Del Piero, a Maldini, a... how he speaks, a Totti, he has thousand times more experience than anyone who's in Okay? And then they to tell me, that doesn't Normally, doesn't Normally. Calcio_Unzensiert: or out of the row. Amici: Yeah, ⁓ Yeah, yeah. Calcio_Unzensiert: If you don't try it... Amici: So that means... that So that we're to shit pants again. Right? J4Life: It says it doesn't work. If this doesn't change, a Baldini has to be a coach now and nothing else. And nothing else. Gennarino: as well. Bravo, Adriano, bravo! That's what I wanted to no matter what happens in of the league, we need a coach who has Who really balls and says, okay, I'll in a few young players If they don't work, then we have more young players. We'll test it. Amici: Geno, Geno. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Get on the- J4Life: Let her try, otherwise it won't Juve.talk.by.andr3as: That would be my question. Silvio Baldini is the coach for now, but he will stay the U21 coach. He will play the European Championship in 2027 and the 2028 in America. Amici: Thanks. Gennarino: video. Amici: Thank Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Until 22 he coach. Who comes that? Now the question. Who would you have as head coach of the national team? Now many names have fallen. Who would really fit Amici: See you I Baldini. Very simple. Calcio_Unzensiert: Peace out. Gennarino: He doesn't it. He doesn't it. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: He doesn't He said from the beginning that he doesn't to. He also in the conference that he wants to earn Amici: But J4Life: Honestly, as it is now, I would either take free cash or I would my luck again. Gennarino: No, I'm not that. Amici: Mancini. I'm Mancini. Gennarino: He already it my genie. I'm being honest, very honest. Amici: Yeah, and then... You don't have... J4Life: Yeah, but which trainer do you available? Who do you to That's the problem. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Then it like Lippi did back Then it like Lippi did back Then it happen like it could happen and what I know. Gennarino: That doesn't It doesn't the situation when we old coaches again! J4Life: You to a discount. You have to a discount. You have to discount. He wasn't yet. Calcio_Unzensiert: Wait, guys, wait a is available now? Who could this job? Just in some names. Just some names. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Guardiola Amici: Guardiola, okay, Guardiola. Guardiola. J4Life: But Guardiola... Guardiola will not happen. Will not happen. That's Will not happen. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Good job. He earns 20 million? Give him 20 million, he'll the team. Amici: Yeah. Gennarino: Klopp! What's Klopp? What's Klopp J4Life: Come on. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: No, Klopp is at Red Bull. J4Life: When Guardiola comes, I'll around the block with underpants. Gennarino: I'll do this time, mate. Hahaha! Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Like with underwear, with elephant armor, huh? Hello? J4Life: With socks on! Amici: No, no. Gennarino: Yeah, I'm bummed. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: With... with... a condom! Calcio_Unzensiert: No, but throw... But throw in some names now! Amici: I'm best in the spectrum. Gennarino: Now honestly, I don't think that a Guadjola will I don't so. Calcio_Unzensiert: There is a Count, Mancini, Guardiola, who else? Amici: No, I don't think so either. Gennarino: I don't what that Calcio_Unzensiert: The freeze. J4Life: Italiano Juve.talk.by.andr3as: No, Allegri Calcio_Unzensiert: It's not safe! That's not true! No, that's not true! He still a contract with Milan! Amici: No, no, no. Gennarino: and that's that's VIN! Juve.talk.by.andr3as: What fuck are you doing? J4Life: Vincenzo Italiano Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah, yeah, but Gennarino: ⁓ well, this is an official, ⁓ Calcio_Unzensiert: Noooo J4Life: Werde Ali, it's not fixed Juve.talk.by.andr3as: No, no, no, no, no, I think it's Atalanta, No, no, what for Atalanta? J4Life: But what about Italian? What about Italian? Amici: A yellow light. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, get of him. Get rid of him, please. J4Life: No, Atalanta is free. Vincenzo Italiano is free. Because Domenico Tedesco is going to Bologna. Calcio_Unzensiert: Sir? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah, but wait a minute... He has... Calcio_Unzensiert: Asp. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Exactly, Domenico de Disco is Bologna. Then Atalanta, if I'm mistaken, is Sarri. Exactly, Grosso is Florence. Amici: Cano. J4Life: Sorry, you know, there Juve.talk.by.andr3as: è italiano Calcio_Unzensiert: Fuckin' check, fuckin' check. Roberto Mancini, Maurizio Sarri, André Piolo, De Rossi, Baldini, Conte... Amici: BOLOGNA J4Life: He is free until now, I happy to talk to Amici: the ⁓ Juve.talk.by.andr3as: But I'm not if I'm to to like Genoa. Amici: I'll see the train at the gate January. Calcio_Unzensiert: It here on the it says here. Gennarino: ⁓ so I would even a pillow, you know that? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: That's JCPT, bro. Amici: No, bro, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah. J4Life: Pirlo is not good coach. Gennarino: But the biggest mistake of Juve was not the Pöööö Amici: Yeah, yeah, but that's why you were brought up. but you can't. Yeah, but you can't send me. J4Life: Yeah Juve.talk.by.andr3as: We won the race. Gennarino: Yes, that was honestly for me, I was happy it, because I believe that Pürdo would have more successful than all the coaches who came him. Amici: No bro, you're as shit as a cat's Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Giacomo, Tudor Calcio_Unzensiert: What did you Pioli? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Bad repugnant. Amici: You had the same shit as with Katusumepiro. Yes, the same shit. me. Yes, 100%. Calcio_Unzensiert: Bioli, bioli. Gennarino: Reinst du? J4Life: So... Fact... fact is yes... Fact is yes, you have to an Italian national coach. That means not that he in the club, that he an national coach. So, these are two different pairs of So, you have to... Gennarino: You have completely different... It's a difference if you team every day or just... Amici: Bravo. J4Life: You're just scouting, watching games long. You have to new talents. You can't just buy this, buy that. Gennarino: What's wrong with a Ranieri? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Ranier stopped He wants to of the family. He at Roma. But they threw They said they would go to 100 % And that's it. He he wouldn't anymore. Gennarino: Has completely stopped? J4Life: Okay. Amici: Now. Gennarino: But an Italian national team is not as complex as a club team. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: If you see like I see it as well, because as Denogatuso said in the conference, he watched more than 800 games. Gennarino: Yeah, good, okay, yeah, okay, sure. J4Life: Okay, Jungs. I would say... Gennarino, do the outro. Gennarino: and didn't anything. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Sean? J4Life: We have 45 minutes now. Calcio_Unzensiert: Auto the outro. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: I have to cut I 8 minutes, 20 minutes, 23 minutes to cut We could it to 48. We're not quite finished are What do you think? How do you I'm the 44 so I can cut J4Life: Yeah, okay. Dann kommen wir auf 40. Gennarino: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Amici: Yeah, yeah, come on. How many minutes? Three minutes J4Life: Okay good. Calcio_Unzensiert: But who do you think is the ideal coach? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Pep Guardiola. J4Life: There is no idea. Calcio_Unzensiert: See, Pequardio, it's Compton. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah. J4Life: Yeah, but look, it's not that different. Because he himself into the game. Don't that. He himself into game. Amici: Yeah, yeah, that's Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yes, he 10 years in I think 17 trophies or more. I don't But he everything with City. And not only with City, he also with Barcelona. Calcio_Unzensiert: But believe me, the Italian... Amici: Yeah, yeah, yeah. J4Life: Look, German federal league. Amici: Yeah. J4Life: Bundesliga, Spaniger Liga and Premier League. So, that means what's left? That means what's left? Do you he'll to the French Liga? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Tremelik Amici: So, that says it all. Nine. Nine. Calcio_Unzensiert: Meh. Meh. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: He has a life span, guys. And if he says, not 20 million 16 is also know what Okay, take it. Give him that and he does... He can Give him the team, he can do it. J4Life: Zoom. Amici: Yeah. Give him to him. Give him to Yes. Right. J4Life: Yes, because he has this eye for young players. That's exactly what we need. He has this eye for young players. Calcio_Unzensiert: Yeah, that's what he He can it. Yeah. Amici: Yeah, Yeah. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah. Amici: And the good thing is Pep Guardiola has with Italy. He played here, he knows the language Okay, his best friend is Roberto Baggio. We must not forget that. His best friend is Roberto Baggio, whom he plays The Italian god. Watch out, guys. I a flashback. Let Pep Guardiola the Italian national team and let's see what happens J4Life: They're gold. They're gold. Calcio_Unzensiert: It's it bad, Jermit. Yeah. Amici: with budget pass yet. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Bravo, Miguel. Bravo, Joa. J4Life: Amigo, claro que si. Que te pasa amigo? Amici: Of you Pep Guardiola, ⁓ Pep Guardiola will do this. So I think these players, these players from Italy, Roberto Baggio can come And he's a really good player, boy, because I think, I think, yes boy, bring this game, it's not childish, boy. So and then Roberto Baggio is also there, very simply. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Claro que sí, claro que sí. Dame una cerveza. J4Life: you I'll your polished glass when it arrives. I swear, I'll your polished glass. Amici: Geil Bruder, hier, Gennarino: I don't so. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Das wär Traum. We still to a month half, but we'll Amici: But the question was, who do we for? The question was, who do we for? Not who comes. So, who do we And I wish for a Pep Guardiola quite simply. Gennarino: I was going to tan, but it beautiful. Calcio_Unzensiert: But Gennari no... Yeah. Gennarino: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, me me too. Absolutely, it's about that, you something, then go Pep Guardiola. J4Life: Yes, 100%. 100%. He my favourite coach. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: ⁓ I mean the vice that they come, Philippe and Zaggy. The Fompa Lerma. ⁓ fine. Wow, wow, wow, cool, wow. Amici: So Gennarino: Aye. Yeah, I'm cool. J4Life: and I said it'd be. Calcio_Unzensiert: But look at Gennari, I think the only one can is Pep. I don't anyone else. J4Life: In this situation I you the right. Calcio_Unzensiert: I don't anyone else. I don't anyone else. Look what he achieved. His life is... J4Life: No one else can it. No one else can do it. Guys! Amici: Egal! Yeah, yeah. J4Life: Guys, write in the... Guys, ascoltaatisch, in the comments if you opinions. Or spam, spam, peguardiola in the comments please. I kiss your hearts. Thank you. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Amen, Bon Appetit! Amici: Hehehehehe Bitte. Bitte. Get on. Spam it. Calcio_Unzensiert: Mark it, mark it! Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah. Mark it for Pep Guardiola the whole time so he the video and then he'll come to us in Italy. Amici: Die, die! Exactly. dear ones, that's it, right? Auto. J4Life: Orka miseria, das muss doch zu machen sein hier. Gennarino: So dear friends, that's it. We start with the car. I hope you liked Don't to the comments that the players from Inter Milan were to for us being Give us a like and share our podcast. We would very happy See you next week when it's episode 3 with... Juve.talk.by.andr3as: So, outdoor, auto, a car, let's go, we need a car. J4Life: Kesto auto. Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Yeah, that's what I saw. Gennarino: Amici im UpSides! Bis dann, Freunde! Calcio_Unzensiert: And very briefly, who would be the coach for in Italy? Juve.talk.by.andr3as: Ciao Bentley!