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"In Sam We Trust" EP52 · DMV Mess Hall

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This is Will Montgomery former Washington Redskins center,
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y'all. Let's go folks.
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This is Troy Johnson, the headbang of y'all and you're
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listening to mess hall with Riley, captain, and tailgate
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Tech work. What's going on rally?
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How you doing, man? Yo, Ted I'm doing good, man.
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Just got off a bicycle and it about 20 miles, so I'm I'm a
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little winded, but feeling good. It's a food for the soul.
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Soul. Yeah, 20 miles is a little more
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than food for the soul. Man, that's a buffet.
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That's a big Feast, man. Well, that's the case.
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Then come May when I do that Century ride.
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What's that called? That's a smorgasbord.
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Well, yeah we got we got to figure that out, man.
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It's that's crazy. I still can't believe you're
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doing that hats off to you. You know, I know that you've
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been training for this thing for a while.
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That's exciting to see. I can't wait to hear about all
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that goes. I will be sitting on a beach
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someplace. Trying to learn how to surf and
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not break anything. So may okay.
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Oh yeah, yeah, II was last time we talked.
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I was hoping to get to the beach last week, got to the beach
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Mother Nature decided to make it 20 degrees out and I did not go
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in the water at all. You mean to tell me, he didn't
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want to be a part of the Polar Bear Plunge.
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I drove past all those crazy people.
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There was zero chance, it was 20 degrees out and then with the
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windchill was like six. Yeah, it's just no way.
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You Couldn't, I don't I get it's for charity, but I'm sorry.
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I'll think of other ways to raise money for charity.
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I don't need to turn myself into a Filipino popsicle.
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It's just does not make any sense to me, not the pp0 chance,
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man. Zero chance, but that you might
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motivate me to get back about palette.
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I know I got a green screen back here, but I got one sitting
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behind me in my little studio, so I might have to jump back on
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that thing and seeing them aboard.
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Chad. Dukes is getting back on his and
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amen. Your Your bike all over town.
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So I might get some inspiration from you guys you know will be.
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Mitch is my inspiration. You know, I always Drew.
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I used to ride last year. I rode with them a couple times
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and your your prior to that a couple times.
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So you know it's just hard with my schedule trying to catch up
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with those guys but Ryan 30 is a good group to be with.
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So are you? You could have stopped at catch
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up with those guys because B and then of asked me to go out as
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well. And I've got a hybrid bike.
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I bought it during covid just like everybody else did mmm.
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But I just Casually, go around town and yeah, I follow Beyond
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Strava, he follows me and my average miles per hour is
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nowhere near his and I'm glad I got to go back and look.
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I want to say it was maybe less than 10 miles an hour.
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Oh yeah. Yeah you'll get left.
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Yeah and I've heard how he's treated some of the guys that
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you know, ride with them. And that group might I'm gonna
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have to get an electric bike. Just to try and keep up with
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him. Yeah, those guys are huge man.
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I think sometimes 18 7:42 and to 19 miles an hour van.
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I'm pulled out my Strava right now to see what it says.
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But yeah, there was zero chance that I was averaging that and,
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you know, I don't mind riding because I enjoyed it going
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around town. I prefer to be on the water now
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just because it's easier on me. Yeah, but the last long ride, I
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did. and I think some of this is because I might stop and take
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pictures along the way but it was 21, .28 miles around
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Anacostia Park in DC and it didn't give me my speed so I'm
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thinking there might be a reason why But hey, you know, hats off
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to you guys and maybe one of these days.
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Like they've invited me to go out and play golf or them like
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be and JP and those guys like yeah, I don't want to embarrass
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myself man. You know, it's I know my role,
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I'll cook them food, all drink, some Scotch with it, and some
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liquor and smoke a cigar, but if you want me to try and do sports
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with a future Hall of Famer and a blogger, that's going to be
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pretty. It's, I mean ugly.
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I mean, yeah, I got you. Well, I tell you what.
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I'll take care of the riding for you, then it's, there you go.
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This isn't on imported, that's go, I'll be at the Finish Line,
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hanging out there where they are, wasn't a squirt bottle,
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full of like a vodka cocktail or something waiting for you guys.
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So that works for me, but speaking of in honor, Ron Rivera
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just got awarded the salute to service award from USA.
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So he is actually the 12th annual winner of the salute to
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service award. And he's Congrats to coach.
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I know the military means that under him, his dad was a warrant
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officer in the military for 32 years and the Commander's do a
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ton. They did a ton of what the
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military before we were the Commander's.
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So I'm thinking that's partially, why the name might
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have some what made sense considering we are in DC, and
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they always do a bunch of big stuff, but they gave Rivera the
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award and because of his efforts, seeing troops off as
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they departed for overseas, assignments hosting, 250,
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Military members and Veterans to training camp in contributions
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to my friends at operation. Warrior wishes Taps the tragedy
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assistance program for survivors and the Uso.
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So we criticize coach when he gets things wrong and I want to
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commend him, take this time to do give a round of applause for
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doing this and getting this, right?
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Because, you know it means a lot to the guys that they had at
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training camp and I know a bunch of those guys with Warrior
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wishes is they came To tailgate with me this season and getting
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a chance to have that one-on-one time with the players that meant
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the world to them. So really hats off to coach
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Rivera for doing that the job coach way to go.
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But interestingly enough coach actually did a press conference
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based on winning that award and the commanders have been quiet.
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They haven't actually said or done anything since the end of
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the season press conference with Rivera and Mayhew.
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So coach was on with, I want to say, it was a NFL Network.
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So he talked to Andrew Siciliano and a bunch of other Talking
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Heads on their one. Tidbit that came out of that.
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It was Rivera talking about to be one next year.
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I'm going to guess you haven't heard this sound by yet because
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there's just dropped, but no. All right, I want to but I'm
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waiting with bated breath brother.
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I was actually surprised to hear this so This is actually Rivera
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talking about qb1 for next season.
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Rod looking ahead. Do you think your starting
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quarterback week one is on your roster right now?
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Well, I think you most certainly can be.
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I know this. We will go into OTAs minicamp
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and training camp with Sam, Hell, more likely qb1 and we'll
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see what happens. I mean, is his opportunity.
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This is a challenge to him, you know, if he comes out and does
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the things that he's capable of, we believe he's capable of.
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He can, most certainly be our guy, but we'll find out.
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And again, that's what competition is going to do.
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It's going to bring out the best in all our guys.
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So, hearing that going into OTAs and many Camp and training camp.
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How will more than likely be qb1?
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So mad at that? I'm not mad that either.
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I'm actually happy to hear that because, you know, we've talked
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about it and for those wondering, it's Wednesday,
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February 8th. I don't want us to get a free
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agent quarterback. I don't want us to try and get
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Derek Carr or Geno Smith or some of these other guys out there.
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I don't want us to draft a quarterback, I want To roll with
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Sam and get a cheap back up some place and hearing that they're
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going to potentially give Sam that you be one spot.
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I'm all for that. You know, so am I and and the
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thing I like about it is it puts that young man's mind at ease?
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Even though they say they don't worry about it all, you know,
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it's just, I don't list be the media and all that nonsense, it
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puts his mind at ease and depending on who the offensive
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coordinator is, it will give him that much more to be able to get
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into that Playbook and get his mind, right?
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Because he knows what it takes to be a starter him.
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He was a starter in North Carolina, so I'm happy.
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Hear that because I know if it was me, I'd feel better knowing
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that. Hey, I'm the man and now it's up
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to me to put the city and the team on my back and make things
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happen. Yeah, I'm sure how was excited
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to hear that from coach that sound bite.
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And, you know, we often like to say less is more Rivera, but I
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appreciate this clip and what he said during this USA, a salute
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to service, basically press conference and he kind of did
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with NFL Network and no, the question is Who's the
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quarterback like to be to going to be because it's not going to
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be Carson Wentz. We all know he's getting cut
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hynek, he's a free agent. Scott, Turner landed in Las
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Vegas. So he's with the Raiders.
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So I was wondering if the Raiders are getting rid of Derek
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Carr, they're trading him or they're going to cut them.
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Think cars, owed, almost 30 million on his number but they
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can cut them for five million. So that's a no-brainer.
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So they gave him permission to start talking the team's car
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Talking to the Saints today. Think the Saints coach Carr has
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affiliation with, so they're going to try and trade them.
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But with that being said, the Raiders don't have a ton of
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people on their roster. So I'm kind of curious.
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If that means heinicke, might go out there with his former BFF
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Scott Turner and maybe compete for a backup role, interested to
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hear your thoughts on that because if that does happen that
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it, where does that leave us with heinicke?
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Potentially coming here? Because their quarterbacks right
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now RJ? Jarrett Stidham and she's Garber
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no idea who in the world Chase Garber is but Stidham.
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Obviously came in last year when car got benched.
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Well. It's a to me, it's a common
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sense type of thing. I mean, Scott Turner heinicke,
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you know, they've got that that Bromance going on.
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So, it only makes sense, I can see Taylor going in and holding
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a clipboard, it could be another Rex Grossman.
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I mean, we know Sexy Rexy held that clipboard for a long time
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with us, bro. So you know just waiting for his
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opportunity. I can see it happening.
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I really can. I can't sue and and with with
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him not got not really asking for a lot of money.
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You know, Las Vegas has money. So they're gonna spray bottle
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caps. Yes, they can throw something at
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them, you know, but better yet. I'm not even worried about that.
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I'm what I'm worried about. I should even said, worried I
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Echo what you said, I'm very happy that Sam how that's what
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I'm gonna focus on what I can focus on all that other stuff is
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going to happen. It's very unfold, it's going to
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unfold but but Sam being the man, Man, I'm happy with that
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because we know where our money lays with him and we know how
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much money we need to structure to get these hopefully three to
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four linemen. Yeah, linebackers in other in
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other other nuggets doobies? Yeah, I mean there's we got a
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lot of holes to fill and yeah, qb1 isn't one and, you know,
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hopefully with Hal being able to go in there.
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Granted, he had 169 yards against the Cowboys but he
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showed some Moxie he showed that he Do this and no I'm not saying
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he's going to take us to the promised land but what I am
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saying is I'm fine riding with Hal into next season and having
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him be qb1. And then we figure out, we got
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wear them because if Howell ain't it I hate to say about
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Rivera is going to get fired. Then the new guy can bring in
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someone. He wants that he hand-picked
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himself and we're not stuck in this vicious cycle again.
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So fingers crossed Rivera contradicts himself a lot.
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But fingers crossed, what he says here.
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Ali stays Pat all the way through.
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Now I know you're not going to like this and our listeners may
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be surprised with this but believe it or not based off of
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how last performance I equate him to jail Borough.
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I really do. I see, I see him in that realm.
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Just give the man an opportunity because if we remember, Earl
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line was terrible, but he was still getting things done.
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I see that being the case with how why?
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He definitely has some of those qualities.
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It's just borough has some intangibles.
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There's a reason why he was drafted.
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So high. There's also a reason why Howell
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drop from a first round pick to a fifth round pick.
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So I'm just hoping he's kind of got that Gilbert Arenas chip on
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his shoulder. Hmm.
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And he tries to prove everybody wrong and he actually gets a
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shot to do that, but he doesn't try to do too much.
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It's all going to come down to who won the world's are
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offensive coordinator, because they're holding off.
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Hope that they can interview be enemy after the Super Bowl, but
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he had to be, I come in here. I'm sorry.
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It just it's not happening. I mean.
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Do you think that they even have enough money to even entice?
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Him me. Come on, man.
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I did it. I think that they have a shot
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but it's just if you're being at me, you have so many options and
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be enemy was on record this past week.
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It's actually on Monday. The Super Bowl talking about how
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he's only talking about head coaching positions not offense.
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Recorded possessions, Okay. And the enemy actually said and
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it was a quote that a lot of people were kind of curious
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about but he talked about being where his feet are, which is
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something Rivera constantly says so, there was a lot of
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speculation about that but apparently that's something that
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Andy Reid has said and others have said in the past, but the
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enemy basically said that, you know, he's happy in Kansas City.
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Now his contract in Kansas city is up, so he can either re-up
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his contract or yeah. You go someplace else but the
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enemy's not coming here and coordinators are getting gobbled
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up left and right. So if you really want one of
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these other guys out there you gotta start doing something
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about it and I'm a little concerned.
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That's the guy who I wouldn't mind.
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The guy from San Francisco that they interviewed.
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He might get gobbled up by someone else to then they'll go
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back to Zambezi. Which I'll be fine with because
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that gives howl another shot of being in a similar system and
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not having to learn new language.
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Being, it is only second year in the league and I think this is
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all going to get blown up next year anyway, so it doesn't
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really matter but it's just the dragging and dragging on which
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is frustrating but it's also Super Bowl week.
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So not a lot of stuff happens, Super Bowl week but something
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that did happen is the Virginia government.
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So we passed a bill Governor yankin proposed setting aside
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five hundred thousand dollars, which doesn't sound like a lot
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in the VA state budget to plan a potential relocation of the
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team, the money would let Virginia Secretary of Finance,
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develop relevant capabilities, conduct planning and evaluate
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potential economic economic incentives in fiscal year 2024.
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So they're talking about creating Ting.
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Another Stadium Authority says you're the house of delegates.
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Appropriations Committee unanimously approved a budget
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proposal Sunday to create a football stadium Authority and
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study potential incentives to help, bring the team from
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Maryland to Virginia. So, we're in the cycle again.
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We're Virginia's trying to her that throw their hat back in the
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ring knowing that a potential ownership changes in play and
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that hey maybe if Bezos or someone else comes in they be
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easier to deal with and they might not have to take as many
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taxpayer dollars out of it to get a team to come.
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They're curious, what your thoughts are on the whole
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Virginia Stadium thing now, The only time that I was even
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vaguely interested in a stadium in Virginia is when they were
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talking about putting it in Alexandria and we know now that
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that's a long long gone idea from here, but I think that was
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what was that 90 if they were talking about that that that
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area in Alexandria. Yeah, that's the only place that
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to me would have made sense as far as location wise any other
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place in Virginia. I don't want it, not once again
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and we swam these waters before. Do what?
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I still go to the games. Yeah, I still would go to the
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games closer. You that Maybe not, maybe not as
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a season ticket holder, but I will still go to the games.
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The the bigger games are the, how about this?
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The opponents that I want to see?
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Yeah, okay, so I would still probably go but we if they want
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to create a bidding war. Fine fine.
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We all know where it needs to go.
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We all know. It pretty much.
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We'll go with the new owner. My fingers are crossed.
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I say that. So stop, you know, plan around
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and, and this is get past this first hurdle, which is when is
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DS going to go ahead and let the cat out of the bag that he's
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done done, you know, we know he's done, done done done and
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and go ahead and move forward. And then once We move forward if
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they want whether it's Maryland, Virginia DC RFK, they want to
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create a bidding war, whatever have you so be it.
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But we got to clear the first hurdle and yeah, five hundred
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thousand dollars. I mean, I don't have that, let
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me have it in assets but as far as you know, cash on hand, I
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don't have that. So they all that old Redskins
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gear can be worth something someday.
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It doesn't sound like a lot of money, bro.
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Now, if he said, hey, we're throwing up.
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A million over the 1 up, 2 million or higher, then you
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might have my ear but 500,000, that's just basically putting a
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fork on the table and you still are missing the plate, the
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placemat, you know. Yeah.
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You know what I'm saying? So young kitten.
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Yeah. It's they went through this last
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year and then they had a chance to vote on it and the vote never
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happened because People basically pull their
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constituents and nobody wanted to work with spider and breaking
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news. Roger Goodell just spoke at the
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Super Bowl and he was asked about the marriage of wedding.
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Biggest investigation and Goodell came out and said
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there's no timeline on the completion of the marriage of
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went investigation into Dan Snyder and the Washington
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commanders and there is no update on the same.
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So the Smoking Gun that everyone's been waiting for is
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potentially The marriage of white report.
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Well Goodell just said no timeline.
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So I feel that their straighten this out.
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Oh, yeah, to let Dan walk away on his own terms and sell the
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team. And this report may never see
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the light of day, that's just me, speculating tailgates.
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That I got no reason to believe that from anywhere else.
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That's just kind of what I'm thinking here because what's
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taking so long, you know, look up, they've already been
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investigated, it'll come out in a 30 for 30 That's what it looks
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come out on. The ESPN, 30 for 30.
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But like, use. I agree with you.
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I don't think that right now is the time for it to come out
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because we are basically a month out.
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You know, from from this thing basically being fully sold.
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So potentially at the potentially earlier at the
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earliest. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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So you know why poke the bear man?
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Just just just let him sleep in London.
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He doesn't mean. Oh, yeah, and that's, you know,
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we always say, well, I always say if our local be guys aren't
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the ones talking about it, I don't have time for it and
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Charles Gasper on. Oh, He is a fox business
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network. Analyst came out with a tweet
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today, saying, quote scoop NFL sources, say sale of commanders
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will take place weeks after Super Bowl and owners meeting in
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March, despite denials most people in NFL circles, think
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Jeff Bezos will bid after initial bids are in given his
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wealth. He's most capable to make
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numbers work for a purchase. Hey, Charles that's not a scoop
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brother. That's something that everybody.
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Who in their right? Mind knows.
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So yeah you get that check mark taken away from you on Twitter
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unless you actually paid for that thing because that was
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probably the worst case of breaking news I have ever seen
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before. Look, we talked about this
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several episodes back right now. Bezos is like I said, back in
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the day, when I was with eBay Hawk, he's just circle it.
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He's just circling in that. That last minute he's going.
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Throw it down, bam. I'm speculating people though,
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the dogs a real Captain said I'm speculating because that's what
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I would do if it was me, you know, I wait for that last
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minute. Just like when I, we were
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betting heavily on eBay and for everybody who remembers our our,
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our podcast that we put out there, I was at eBay Hawker.
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So that's uh, could have 10 seconds left and I'll put my bid
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down and I'm taking everybody to camp and I'm coming home with
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the prize. So that's what I see.
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Bezos do. When I see him just circling you
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like, okay, not yet, we still got, we still got a couple
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months on the bid let those guys go ahead and fight it out
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because I know when I put up my billion or whatever it is that I
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need, it'll be all good. It's purely speculation on my
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behalf so don't say I hear and I'm speculating that I don't
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think he's going to make it big, okay?
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I'm hearing that you know they really really don't want to sell
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it to them and Bank of America has been courting Bezos Bank of
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America, has a reaching out because they get a percentage of
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the sale. So if you're going to get paid
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Bank of America, you're going to reach out to one of the richest
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people in the world to try and get them to bid on it.
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But billionaires don't like being told.
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No. And imagine sniping the last
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thousand years, don't like being cold.
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I'm trying to buy a new surfboard and mrs.
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Tailgate saying that's way too expensive or not.
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I don't want to hear it. So I might just have to buy it
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and she'll just see me on it one day, but, you know, just year
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it's Snyder would get the last laugh on Bezos.
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If he sold it for less money, just out of spite and he will be
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able to just walk away to the sunset in London and just hang
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out there. So, it just makes me wonder,
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does he really get told, no, and Snyder.
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Basically, give them the cold shoulder ghost them because he
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doesn't have to sell, we actually got a couple text
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messages Asking if it has to go to the highest bidder.
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No, this is a private sale, he can sell it to whoever he wants
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to. Now keep that in mind it has to
23:55
be approved by the other owners, but the other owners aren't
23:58
going to not approve a sale that Snyder does to another person
24:03
that can actually afford it versus Jeff Bezos because then
24:06
that would be discrimination at that point so there's a lot of
24:09
moving parts and who knows but you know we've all been saying
24:13
we've been saying on our show, nothing's going to happen and so
24:16
the owners meetings March. So not really holding my breath,
24:19
don't even really care. But when you've got these
24:22
National guys, talking about Scoops whatever one here locally
24:26
has been saying that mean JP Finley.
24:28
John come all the guys here been saying that for months and a
24:32
disturbed man you need to listen to the DMV mess hall, maybe get
24:34
some of your news from Oscar's, we get told you that a couple
24:36
months ago. Yeah.
24:40
But we didn't get a chance to talk about it.
24:42
Last week, it was 22, 22. We recorded on 21 22 and it kind
24:50
of frustrated. Me hearing all their shows.
24:54
Talk about the Rebrand and just talk about some of the stuff
24:58
that happened during it. I wanted to hear a year in where
25:04
the Commander's, how have you felt about the name change?
25:08
Do you still slip up every once in awhile?
25:11
And what are your thoughts? Are you rented this and not
25:14
talking, particularly about, you know, how they're rolled it out.
25:17
Just the fact that we are the Commander's Now bump it up a
25:22
bum, did I? I said it in the beginning and
25:28
I'll continue to say it. I didn't have a dog in the fight
25:34
to begin with and as I told you, we could have been
25:37
hypothetically name, the Washington Pixies.
25:40
I'm okay with it. I'm because I'm okay with it
25:44
because I don't have a say about it. if that makes sense, if they
25:50
truly came to me and said rally captain, What do you want?
25:55
And, and I said, hypothetically red wolves and I was banking on
25:58
red wolves and then they came up with commanders then yeah, I
26:01
would be upset but I never had any say to begin with.
26:05
We knew they would do. The name was changing what it
26:07
was. We didn't know where the
26:09
Commander's now, and that's what it is.
26:12
So I'm not one of these guys who is still stuck on, I'll never
26:17
call them. The commanders are still
26:18
Redskins to me as. And I've always said it in my
26:22
heart, they I will never change. They will always be the risky
26:27
ins in my heart. However, the powers that be
26:32
above, my paygrade, have changed the name to the commanders, and
26:36
you've got one or two things that you can do with that.
26:39
Whether you want to hear it or not, you can either go with it.
26:43
Or you cannot go with it. But they're moving like they
26:47
moved on. So, What do you see on the on my
26:51
chest that W is for Washington commanders.
26:57
You I agree with you. Yeah, it's just I did get a
27:01
chance to talk to them and this was back when I had a better
27:04
relationship with the team before everything completely
27:07
flipped and turned over, you know, Jason right.
27:10
And come on board. We had a private meeting.
27:12
It was a zoom at that point to talk to him and then I got a
27:15
chance, the day we lost our name.
27:19
And the people that were there, they're no longer there with the
27:21
team anymore, but I went to FedEx, and I sat my parking spot
27:27
and I smoked a cigar and I hung out there and some of the
27:30
executives saw me there and they invited me in the stadium.
27:34
And we sat in my seats, in my section, for maybe, two hours.
27:39
And talked about the name and it changing and what we're going to
27:43
be in the interim, and I gave my recommendation.
27:46
And then they told me why that wouldn't work in my
27:48
recommendation which was based off of a recommendation from one
27:52
of my crew members from the tailgate was the Washington hail
27:57
So we get to keep hail at that point in the name but hail as in
28:02
a hailstorm you've got the Tampa Bay Lightning.
28:05
We would be the Washington hail and it kind of fits different
28:09
things. And some what an odd the answer
28:13
I got back from them was people would take it out of context and
28:18
turn it around into a Nazi type of name.
28:23
So I finally understood that At yeah.
28:26
Hi, Al exactly. So, they were saying I hear you,
28:31
okay? And that's why, you know,
28:33
remember when we did that event with Will missile Brooke.
28:36
The Rebrand guy and Jason and they talked about how Washington
28:41
Hogs was a name that women fans of this team did not want,
28:46
because it was a derogatory term in their eyes, and they didn't
28:50
want that backlash. So it immediately got shot down.
28:53
By that base, that they ended up.
28:56
Calling and taking surveys from so it.
28:58
Okay, but okay, hold on, hold on, hold on and I hate to
29:01
interrupt you but see you what bothers me about all that is
29:05
this what's our mascot measure toddy?
29:10
I hear. What is he?
29:11
He's a hard. Come on.
29:13
So don't don't don't see, don't do that to me.
29:15
That's what they said you were there.
29:18
Yes, I was. And I understand that.
29:21
But man, don't do that to me and that's why I say That to me is
29:28
look, they did what they did. So we have what we have but when
29:33
you say stuff like that then to me that the mascot should not
29:36
have been a hog. It was a cash grab.
29:40
In my opinion, they went to that because during this entire
29:44
Rebrand, you know, movies TV shows, like stranger things, you
29:50
know, then you've got, like, all these like that 90 show is now
29:53
on Netflix. It's Nostalgia people watch
29:57
those shows because of nostalgia, it reminds you of
29:59
stuff from growing up. So they kept the fight song with
30:04
the same lyrics to a degree because they wanted people to
30:08
Have that nostalgic feel to it. They kept the colors, burgundy
30:12
and gold, because they knew that the fanbase were V.
30:14
If you try to change this to red white and blue, you know, and
30:18
they use the hog to try and honor the past teams at that
30:24
point, what we're famous for. But in actuality all they did
30:28
was screw themselves up because the Hogs don't even own that
30:31
trademark. So it's just in my opinion, the
30:34
Rebrand was not done, right, but I have made peace with the name.
30:38
Mmmmm. I have stopped calling them.
30:41
The old Name by accident just because I have 240v.
30:44
I'm going to be on Fox 5 Friday, cooking up a Super Bowl, Feast
30:49
over there and you know going to get a chance to talk about the
30:51
commanders and I haven't been able to wear my old gear on TV
30:55
just because they didn't want to see it on TV so I get it and
30:59
those fans that are still holding out, you know, you guys
31:03
will come around whenever you come around and you don't you
31:05
don't. Hey, that's you, but Some people
31:09
are holding hope. That's a new owners going to
31:11
come in and change it again and you and I are on record saying
31:16
we are going to be down for that.
31:18
Nah, that's not going to happen. I mean, it's wishful thinking
31:22
and you can wish upon a star of with anything that you want, but
31:25
now I don't think it's going to happen.
31:27
So I don't hate the name. I really don't hate the name.
31:31
It does not bother me at all. Yeah, I don't hate it either
31:35
other, you know, the people that wanted red wolves, that whole
31:39
thing. I just if it wasn't for Smoot I
31:42
don't think it would have got that much traction but hey we're
31:46
not it and People wanted to keep that because you want to keep a
31:49
hashtag then they made our hashtag HTT.
31:52
See to try and go with that. Nostalgia, again, I just, I wish
31:57
they would have tried to move away and did some creative
32:00
stuff. You know, I got a friend, she
32:02
wrote a book and it was a 2021 like best hits on.
32:09
I can't remember what exactly it was, like New York Times
32:11
bestseller list and she has a deal to write another book.
32:15
She's not writing a sequel to her book that A bunch of awards.
32:18
She's running an all new original story, you know,
32:22
sometimes the sequel's don't really work out and I feel like
32:24
the commanders and what they're trying to do with us has been a
32:27
half a sequel. It's like years ago, TV had a
32:30
writer strike and you can tell the quality of the show's went
32:34
downhill during that stripe because you had like the scab
32:37
guys come in. I feel like that's what this has
32:40
been and I'm hoping that all those mistakes are kind of past
32:44
us and we can just move on to the Commander's.
32:47
I also so wish we would just come up with a nickname because
32:51
it's just it's a mouthful to say and it's a pain to tweet that
32:55
the entire time that there. But he's we have you.
33:00
How many times have we heard that?
33:02
We've heard all these crazy things.
33:03
Man, I just it's never-ending man, you know, it's just and
33:08
from these Eagles fans that are in the Super Bowl and you were
33:11
up there when we won that game, you know, it's just I can't
33:14
imagine the things that they were calling you when you are In
33:17
the stands after we ended up beating them that night up
33:20
there. But can you believe that there
33:23
are commanders fans that are pulling for the Eagles right now
33:26
in the Super Bowl? I can.
33:29
And, and the only reason why I can is because they are pretty
33:33
close to us. I mean, in proximity, it is only
33:36
about a two and a half hour drive to our drive, so in a are
33:40
NFC East. So that's the only reason why I
33:43
get asked all the time. So who you, who you rooting for
33:46
the game? And I said neither team, just
33:48
give me a good game. I'll come on, you gotta like
33:49
somebody ice. I don't, I just don't, I mean, I
33:54
it's nothing against Kansas City now.
33:57
Against the Eagles. I just don't have a dog in the
33:59
fight. Just give me a good game and
34:02
that's what I want to see. And no just will not.
34:05
I will not be doing anything with DraftKings this weekend.
34:13
I was so happy there was nothing to bet on this past weekend.
34:16
I mean I've ended up we went to the beach, I watch the Ovechkin
34:20
documentary on ABC. I watch some of the Pro Bowl.
34:24
I didn't mind the DodgeBall that they have for the Pro Bowl, the
34:28
flag football. I could have kind of done
34:29
without but I didn't really mind how to change the Pro Bowl game
34:32
up. It was That is put it up over
34:35
three days, I guess, actually four days, Thursday, Friday,
34:38
Saturday, and Sunday. So there's just a lot going on.
34:42
Did you get a chance of watching the Pro Bowl stuff?
34:45
Didn't know? Did you see Terry in the water,
34:50
balloon least on Instagram or Twitter, I saw a picture of him,
34:54
making a goofy face, trying what it looked like the catcher or
34:57
something to that effect, but that bro that stuff just doesn't
35:01
move me. So you know I I had so many
35:04
other things that I was working on that.
35:06
The Pro Bowl was just not one of my highlights that I was trying
35:11
to get sit down into in front of the television to watch it.
35:14
Just Pleasant. Yeah, for me, it was just
35:17
literally sitting around waiting to go out and go do stuff or it
35:21
was way too cold to go out. So I sat on my couch and watch
35:24
that but fans were upset because Terry basically kind of he
35:29
didn't sacrifice his body and dive for the water balloon but
35:33
he'll Has been caught the water balloon and people are kind of
35:36
judging it. Was it a catch?
35:37
Was it not a catch and this and that, and some people are
35:40
criticizing saying he could have, you know, hurt himself or
35:44
messed up his knee based upon the pictures and all this stuff
35:47
like these guys are out there. Having fun, let him have fun.
35:50
It is what it is, but I am not on board for rooting for the
35:55
Eagles. I mean, I think the Eagles are
35:57
going to win Sunday. Let me put that out.
36:00
I think that they are the better team.
36:02
I think that they have a chance to actually really pull this
36:06
off. I'm not rooting for them, but if
36:08
I was going to bet on FanDuel, which I'm going to on Friday,
36:13
when I'm in Maryland, I'm putting money on the Eagles
36:16
because I think they are going to win this game just because
36:20
Mahomes isn't 100%. They've got some banged-up
36:23
Corners, they've got to Brooke. He's starting and their defense,
36:27
the Eagles, have the better offensive line, they got the
36:29
better pass rush. It's just what can Andy Reid,
36:33
schema But I don't understand, like, Micah Parsons was on
36:39
Twitter the other day, saying he's rooting for the Eagles.
36:43
It's like, that's your rival. How can you be rooting for your
36:47
arrival to win a Super Bowl. I don't get that like the city
36:51
of New York. I'm sure you saw this, the
36:54
Empire State Building, they change their colors to the
36:57
Eagles colors, anyway, and I think it's just because inner
37:01
conference, that's all bro, I mean that's that's it unless
37:04
It's something unless I hear my why exactly.
37:06
Michael Parson says it? I'm just going to go with the
37:09
inner conference. Did it, does he say why?
37:12
I don't remember exactly why he did it at that point.
37:16
He go win a bowl for our division.
37:19
Okay? Yeah.
37:20
Conferring, I just, this isn't like college.
37:24
This isn't like the SEC wanting to keep it there.
37:27
You know, the one thing we had over the Eagles for years was
37:31
the fact that their trophy case was empty.
37:34
Yeah, right the last thing we need is for them to add a second
37:39
Lombardi to their trophy case when We've only got three, yes,
37:43
we've got five championships but we only got three.
37:46
So, the last thing I want is for them to be happy.
37:51
Add another Lombardi, their same division or not.
37:54
And then you've got these, I'm sorry.
37:57
Delusional Washington fans saying, well, the Eagles won the
38:00
Super Bowl and we beat the Eagles.
38:03
So does that mean we're better than them?
38:06
No, they didn't say that they do man, they do.
38:10
Come on, take that win. Or what it was or what it was.
38:13
I mean at the time it was it was a great win.
38:16
It was a great feeling but the better team is still playing so
38:21
don't even go there. Just just one guy.
38:24
Stop stop, that's the thing that's just and Pete.
38:28
Haley was on 1067 the fan today saying that he can see Ron
38:32
Rivera talking about if the Eagles win talking about how we
38:38
beat them. And that game plan because we
38:42
ran the ball 49 times. And see we should run to to one
38:46
because that's how we beat the eventual Super Bowl champions.
38:50
And I can actually see Rivera saying that too.
38:53
So that's another reason why I don't want them to win.
38:55
He's going to hang his hat on it and truthfully, that's one of
38:59
your highlights of the year in prime time, so I can see you
39:03
hanging your hat on it, but You know, as well as I do that.
39:08
We need more. Oh, yeah.
39:10
And we need a lot more, so why? That was a feel-good victory?
39:14
And yeah, I rub my face all in the Eagles fans of in Philly.
39:18
And yes, you can do that. Ladies and gentlemen, don't you
39:21
know, get it out of your mind that you can't go to Philly with
39:24
your colors on it, just stop it. All right because I did it.
39:28
I do it and I will continue as long as God allows me to or
39:31
whoever you pray to allows me to then.
39:34
That's what I'm going to continue to do.
39:36
Do so so, so just cancel that but I can see him doing that and
39:43
because it's a feel good story. It's a feel good story.
39:47
It is a feel-good story, but it's just and hey, people can
39:51
roof, whoever they want to root for.
39:53
I just don't get it and we'll never understand why you would
39:58
ever root for someone in your division because that is your
40:02
direct competition and to actively pull.
40:06
And be okay with them. And this came out of a poll that
40:10
was looking at geotags, from people, rooting for the Eagles.
40:14
So these are people in our area that are tweeting about it and
40:17
maybe all the Commander's fans have just had that mental
40:20
vacation like Rivera playing golf at the program and they
40:24
just haven't been on social media.
40:25
I don't know. I just, I am not okay with
40:29
commanders fans watching the fans, pulling for them.
40:31
But hey y'all do you? It is what it is.
40:34
I just don't want to see you at my tailgate next.
40:36
Because I'm going to feed you once you root for the Eagles.
40:38
To me, you're an Eagles fan and I don't like Eagles fans.
40:42
You can't keep up with every bite.
40:43
It was for you girls feel that it sounds good.
40:45
I know it does, but you can't keep up with everybody brother,
40:49
we used to it was alien, man. It was a Ravens game years ago,
40:53
man. And I actually ended up getting
40:56
a metal detector. So we would pat you down with a
41:00
metal detector. If you are a Ravens fan and you
41:03
came to the tailgate and then we had a Polaroid Camera and we put
41:07
up a wall of Shame and we took a picture of y'all.
41:10
And if you want to come eat and hang out with us, we pat you
41:13
down, we did the metal detector, just as a joke and we hung your
41:16
picture up there. And there were a couple fans
41:18
that we let join us. But I hate Ravens fans.
41:22
Maybe as much as I can't stand Cowboys fans.
41:25
Wow. In I know you've been to Mt.
41:30
Yes, I have they despise Washington.
41:33
I mean Baltimore does not like d.c.
41:36
They've got little brother syndrome and the vitriol that
41:40
they constantly throw with us because we get coverage.
41:43
And they don't even though their team wins and we don't, you
41:46
know, they just haven't got over it.
41:47
So, I'm just not a fan of other than Matt, Valdez from the
41:50
junkies. I can't stand Ravens fans.
41:53
You know, man, I honestly can say that.
41:59
Everywhere that I've been, I may start off getting jaw jacked but
42:06
once people talk to me that goes out the window so I can't, I
42:12
can't say that. I really have a hate.
42:19
Eagles, definitely, I can say that that their mouths.
42:22
Just just, no matter. Even if they get to know me,
42:25
they still feel. They can just talk to you and
42:27
your kind of way. So I don't like that but, and I
42:31
think Dallas is second, you know?
42:34
But and I just, I just I just let it go bro, but I will not be
42:40
rooting for the Eagles. I Will Not Just show me a good
42:43
game and whoever wins my hat's off to him.
42:48
And that's all I can say about that.
42:51
Yeah. It's it will be hopefully a good
42:53
game and that's what I'm praying for.
42:55
You know? You going out anywhere for you,
42:57
just hang it home. I'm chilling.
43:00
Like a villain brother. I still have never been in.
43:04
Actually, no. I've been invited to one Super
43:06
Bowl party. It just it goes back to my whole
43:09
no one invites me to a barbecue because they don't want to feed
43:12
me. They're worried about me
43:14
critiquing their food and you know people I'm not going to
43:18
critique your food at your face. Definitely going to be trash.
43:39
So, it's right because I would go to zzq and in Richmond and
43:43
bring it back, then I'm coming over.
43:45
I would not be there in a heartbeat.
43:47
It's just, I was at Costco today because I'm getting ready for my
43:50
Fox5 appearance. Yeah.
43:52
And I'm buying stuff and I had a bunch of people ask me like what
43:55
they should make for the Super Bowl.
43:56
Like, you know, I might have to start like a tip hotline or
44:00
something. If you guys want recipes for the
44:01
Super Bowl in a different part is, you can call me, you know,
44:04
at 20 to blah blah, blah. You know, we can figure that out
44:06
like a 900 number. Amber from back in the day.
44:09
But yeah I just I think I'm just hanging out at home, just
44:12
watching the game here with my leftovers from TV and then just
44:15
go on from there, can't go wrong with that, seven-layer dip.
44:19
Yeah, I'm actually going to be making a Cheesesteak queso so
44:23
instead of a regular case. So Philly cheesesteak style and
44:26
then a see some Kansas City pulled pork.
44:31
Sliders well, that sounds good with some Hawaiian bread and
44:35
some coleslaw on top and some jalapeno.
44:37
Jalapenos man. So what, what time are you
44:40
doing? Whatever time you want to come
44:41
over you know the address but that's not a problem and you can
44:44
critique my food and tell me the truth in front of me that's
44:46
fine. Well if let's see.
44:49
You already got my nod of approval from the greens so you
44:52
know that if it seemed like those greens, you know, it's all
44:55
gravy baby. That's not it.
44:57
I'm going to start prepping that when we get done with the show.
44:59
So fingers crossed but talking about not of approvals The
45:06
commanders have on May first. They have to see if they're
45:11
going to exercise. Chase Young's fifth year option.
45:16
So yeah, May first teams have to actually see if they want to
45:20
pick that option up, they decided not to pick up their own
45:24
pains option. This past year, Chase's option
45:28
is going to be Seventeen point four.
45:31
Five million dollars in 2024. So it's not this year's cap,
45:35
it's exercising if they're going to keep him on that.
45:38
Fifth year in 2024, Given the fact of what he's done that he
45:45
has had nine career sacks, seven and a half.
45:49
He got his rookie year and that he got hurt in twenty one and
45:54
only played three games this year and knowing what they've
45:58
got to do. Do you exercise as option?
46:03
Chase is one of these guys who I think for the longest time.
46:10
The team does a thing that's called.
46:15
What he could do this for hiki, possibly could do that.
46:21
But the upside is, that's where Chase is, I believe.
46:24
And so you're almost you're damned if you do damned if you
46:28
don't. And I hate to be in limbo like
46:30
that, but that's just how it is right now, man.
46:33
You know, we know the kid, if he, if he's right what he can
46:38
do. But we also know if he's wrong,
46:42
what he can do. And we've seen both sides of the
46:44
spectrum, and I kind of hate that they waited.
46:49
If he was healthy, that is that they waited to bring them in so
46:53
late in the season, if he wasn't healthy, then, okay?
46:56
I will, we've been over that already, you know, numerous of
46:59
times, but if he was healthy and they waited this long, then you
47:02
did yourself and you did him chase a disservice.
47:08
I think that So and I don't and I'm going to say this right now,
47:13
I don't know too much about or understand this show you the
47:16
fifth year option. So is it a situation where a
47:20
rookies out four-year deal? So rookies have a four-year deal
47:23
and First-round rookies and it is up to the team.
47:29
If at the end basically of not the end, but coming up to the
47:34
end of their deal, they can exercise a automatic fifth year
47:40
and the NFL comes out with the values, each year of that fifth
47:44
year, because they're technically not under contract.
47:48
The team has the option if they want to keep him under contract.
47:51
So they did this with Montez sweat they they exercised his
47:55
option for 11.5 million, they did this in April of last year,
48:01
they had a chance to do it with Geron pain and they decided not
48:04
to So, technically pain would be under contract next year, if the
48:09
team exercises option and they could have got them for cheaper
48:13
the franchise tag. I think we said was 17 million
48:16
or 18 million for Montez or sorry doron.
48:20
They could have exercised his option and got him for a lot
48:24
less than 18 million next year. But Rivera didn't want to do it.
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The martyrs didn't want to do it because they extended John Allen
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and they drafted Philip Mathis and they basically had a plan to
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get out. You have drawn pain business.
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Well, the team falls out. Yeah doron.
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Balls-out gets 11 and a half sacks.
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He's going to get paid easy to get paid by the commanders and
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on top of that Montez is getting paid.
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Do you also then want to spend almost 18 million dollars on
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Chase Young's potential? In the problem I have is I said
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you're damned if you do damned if you don't because the minute
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that you don't in hypothetically, he goes
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somewhere else and he balls out. What do we always have done?
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We've said it man, that guy was on our team where were you?
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We've said it so many times, but on the flip side, he wets the
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bed and he and we're say, whoo man.
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I'm glad we didn't do that, you just don't know.
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So I think I think if I had to roll a dice and that's that's
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all I can go by, I'm going to have to go ahead and and, and
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give it to him. And then he's going, he's going
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to heat. I'd have to give it to him and
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see where he is, and then I'd have to let him go.
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If he doesn't come up too, but I need him to be.
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So just for numbers wise, and these numbers are going to go up
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the 2023 salary. Cap tag number for a defensive
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end is Point seven million dollars.
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So let's say the commanders decide not to exercises option
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and Chase balls out, they're going to have to tag them or
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extend them if they want to keep them in that defensive end
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franchise tag number is going to be more than 19 million.
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It's going to be in the 20-something because it just
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always goes up because it's the average of the different
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defensive ends people your position.
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So, I'm with you. We don't know how Chase is going
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to be just hope that he gets it entire healthy offseason where
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he's not on the Ashburn cycling team and he's not coming back
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from something. You know, I hope Chase is not
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doing a century ride with you sitting out there, you know, on
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the turf field and they get a chance and they extend this guy
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and then during that they do what they did with Terry.
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And with John because he bawled out Out.
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They give him a legit extension, selfishly because I bought a 99
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black Commander Jersey, but I did like what I saw from Chase
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when he did come back in this season.
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Yeah. And I'm with you, hopefully, he
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is doing the right thing, this offseason to get himself
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together because he also has some demons in his head.
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Regardless of whether people want to be, he wants to admit it
51:23
or not. He in his mind needs to know
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that he can do it. And we had a small sample size
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for those that those couple games through, where he did show
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promise, but he still just did. Didn't.
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Uh, but it but we saw we saw he saw, you know, specs of it.
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We need to see a full swath of it instead of suspects.
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So hey man, I say you got to go ahead and sign them and you got
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to let the chips fall where they fall, but hopefully he's doing
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what he needs to do as a professional to get himself in
51:58
order to make it right. Yeah, I mean to me for Chase to
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live up to his draft pick. He's got to be Like what's his
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Joey Bosa or Nick Bells whichever the one place for the
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Niners. He's got to be disruptive like
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that for where we took him because he is always going to be
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compared to us, potentially taking her quarterback at that
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spot and his draft class and right now he hasn't lived up to
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it and we're still in QB hell, but extend the young man
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exercises option on Aesthetics exercises option because this
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team has 99 problems and let's not add Chase to be another one
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of them. Let's figure out the Rest of it,
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let's see what Sam does and what's his girlfriend bad.
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Man, I like how you didn't it like that.
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Well, I hear the music playing in the background, which lets me
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know that we have come to our time to close out another
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edition of the DMV mess hall. Ted I appreciated my brother.
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Thank you for always bringing the fun and the knowledge and
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everyone who's listening? Thank you guys, always say you
53:09
could be listening to any of the podcast, but you decide to To
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tune into the TV. Mess hall.
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So on behalf of rally, captain and tailgated.
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We're going to be. We're going to be.