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Dare Sayest Thou Spirit-Guides with Michael Basham - Ministry X - 030 · Ministry X

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  In a tingya ministry X Fringe Radio Network. Sorry, I didn't mean to
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  startle you there. We're just going aducting a little sound check here. We'll
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  get started momentarily. We've got a special guest joining us today. Stay tuned
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  into these fringe realms. These yet to be explored. Nebulas of star creation
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  around. This is a growing community, and COVID woke up a lot of
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  people the younger generation, just like nine to eleven woke me up, and
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  just like the jfk assassination woke up a lot of the boomers. But we
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  don't just do conspiracies, whether we're talking about paranormal or ancient megaliths or whatever.
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  I was in Spokane, Washington last night and went to see Sam Tripoli
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  and Eddie Bravo do some tinfoil hat comedy and that was great, and honestly,
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  we have to laugh at some of the conspiracies. Eddie Bravo is flat
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  earther and he just catches so much it for it. It's funny. And
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  between that and the moon landing hoax, I mean, these guys believe anything
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  that sounds weird. It's not very skeptical. And Sam Tripley has other podcasts
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  and he talks about meditating and getting spiritual, but it's also like this bro
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  man, you know, self care message. In other words, it's totally
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  missing Jesus, but it's good for a laugh, and we'll talk some conspiracies
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  here, and of course the biggest conspiracy is Satan's conspiracy along with his angels
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  and his human adherents and slave armies. There's a grand conspiracy there against God
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  and God's anointed and God's people. And that's more of what we get into
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  here. And we're all mourning the passing of doctor Michael Heiser, whose research
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  and books and teachings on the Unseen Realm opened up this fringe space for all
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  of us and really a pillar of the fringe Christian movement. And it's nothing
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  sensational. It's just Bible daring to examine the more cryptic and strange passages in
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  the Bible and realizing this stuff wasn't strange to the Hebrews and the Greeks and
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  the Romans and all the cultures of the Near East. They all acknowledged a
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  spirit world. It was as real as this material world is to us.
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  And your religious practices, whatever those might be, were integrated into your daily
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  life, not separated out for Wednesday and Sunday like we do in America.
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  And Michael Heiser's greatest contribution to this movement, I think, and what was
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  A big key to me developing a greater understanding of the Bible is interpreting the
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  Bible through the eyes of the people who wrote it, not through our twenty
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  first century lens. But you can go back and listen to all those old
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  episodes on Fringe Radio Network, and maybe we can just go back and start
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  with episode one and rebroadcast them in order because it's so foundational. And there's
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  a lot of new people coming into the fringe Christian movement right now. And
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  we're gonna miss doctor Heiser here at Fringe Radio Network. Please continue to pray
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  for his family. But he's influenced so many of us and now spawned all
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  these other podcasts. And we still have Bible study podcasts here on Fringe Radio
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  Network, Faith and other oddities, Bible prophecy Talk, and new shows now
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  like the dig Bible podcast. So the fringe movement that doctor Heiser helped create
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  goes on, and our guest today certainly knows about that, taking it into
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  the mystic realms and just every day witnessing and every day taking time out for
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  God and prayer and just being active in your dream life in the spirit realms.
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  Talking about Michael Basham also with a podcast here on Fringe Radio Network,
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  Spirit Wars, Spirit Wars Frontlines, and we're gonna be talking to him today.
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  It's been a while since we've had a guest on the show. Michael
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  was actually my very first guest if we go back to spring summer twenty twenty
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  one, two years ago. So let's get Michael on the line here.
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  We're going to talk a little bit about spirit guides and helpful spirits and spirit
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  travels and wherever else the conversation takes us. Michael, can you hear me,
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  buddy, Let's see Okay, speaker sounded good there for Yeah, sounded
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  really good there for a second. Okay, how about this. That's much
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  better. Yeah, Okay, we'll just do this and you can hear me.
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  Okay, it's just uh speaker, Yes, I can hear you.
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  Great, Okay, perfect. Yeah. I'm sure you're gonna sound a lot
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  better than me tonight. I'm sorry, dude, I thought I had my
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  microphone set up and I dropped the ball. Daniel's son, That's okay,
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  I get it. You're least and do a show. Yes, absolutely know.
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  You're the one that you coined that. Thank you and thank you for
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  still posting everything. I'm pretty sure that's still you, right, did Johnny?
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  Johnny like uploaded one show. Every once in a while he'll put something
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  up, but I do the majority of it. For the Pea, there's
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  a lot of shows where they go and they post their own stuff. Oh
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  yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, I was just wondering if you
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  could just post all my shows too, just kid, No, I'm I
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  appreciate your hard works or and you know, I'm really impressed with the feed.
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  It's awesome and the numbers are really good, like best ever, like
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  one hundred thousand a month. It's the best numbers ever, I think.
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  Now there's like three new shows on the network now, Philo, Sophia West,
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  the other ones Unrefined podcast, and the Dig Bible podcast, which seemed
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  promising all three of them. I haven't heard the dig yet, but I
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  liked Philosophia. But anyway, what are we going to talk about tonight,
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  Brad Dah you want to go into the spirit? Yeah, get into some
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  crazy things. Yeah. Well, I this was all kind of prompted by
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  the fact that you had a show and you were talking about how, you
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  know, the fringe, you know, podcasters, the fringe community tended to
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  focus on like examining the enemy and all the kind of crazy, evil,
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  weird things, vampires, aliens, you know, and you were kind of
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  lamenting the fact that we didn't talk more about like you know, kingdom stuff,
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  just more less about the Antichrist, more about Jesus Christ. And it
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  got me thinking about, like we're always talking about, you know, spirit,
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  the spirit realm, spirit beings, but we never really talked too much
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  about, you know, the helpful spirits, the spirit guides, the spirit
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  helpers that you can encounter. And I just know that you've talked about that
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  subject on your show quite a bit, you know, the the spaceships and
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  the angel warriors and stuff that you've encountered, and how you encountered different spirit
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  helpers depending on you know, where you're at, whether it was Hawaii or
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  Asia or North Carolina. So I just wanted to kind of talk with you
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  about that, kind of get your take on some of your experiences, some
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  of the more like positive, helpful things that we can encounter in the spirit
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  world. Well, absolutely, you're speaking my language, brad Ah, Yeah,
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  and it's all by faith. It's like we can get into this right
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  away. I mean, right now if you want. I mean, there's
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  just so much to get into on that and it's kind of like trying to,
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  you know, clear off the the rubble of all the info and the
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  fear and getting into the spirit is it's not easy, especially when you have
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  relationships and family and kids and to top it all off, so it's like,
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  how do you get into that meditative place and then to top it all
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  off again? Then you got all the church people thinking you're new age.
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  When you even say the word spirit world or spirit helper, spaceship, it's
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  like, oh, you're definitely a new age. It's still not new age.
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  Yeah, don't say spirit guide or anything like that. They'll look at
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  you cross eyed. Right, it's all about the terminology, and you know,
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  the people are so religious and you know, but when it comes down
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  to it, God has his own system. So we should just explore that
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  tonight and yeah, let's let's definitely just pray and get in there. Is
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  there anything else you wanted to get into tonight or what you wanted to say
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  off air? That was kind of that was kind of our I guess,
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  our starting point and then wherever the spirit leads us from there. I told
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  you about the dream that I had you where you pulled up in the silver
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  Lamborghini, And I think that ties into this too, because in the dream,
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  you know, I was driving around, you know, in my beat
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  up truck and just trying to find a place to throw some trash away and
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  scouting, you know, for trash cans and stuff. And I pull off
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  the road and I'm thinking, this is a good spot. There's got to
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  be some garbage cans around here. I mean, who knows what why your
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  brain comes up with this stuff, right, And I pull off the road
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  and then I'm kind of peeking in my rear view mirror and I see,
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  you know, these floodwaters start to come in, kind of creeping in behind
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  me, and the water level is rising. I'm like, crap, I
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  gotta get out of here. Like I'm getting ready to throw it in reverse
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  and start backing out. And then this silver Lamborghini just pulls up beside me.
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  Ah, and it's you. You hop out of the Lamborghini and you
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  walk up to my window and you're like, come on, let's go.
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  I know how to get out of here. And I guess we take off
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  together and we wind up somewhere this really nice, plush carpeted home seems really
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  clean, and I'm just like overjoyed. I'm like coming down the staircase and
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  I can hear you. You're downstairs, sitting at the kitchen or something,
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  and you're reading, like I think it's like some kind of prophecy journal or
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  mo letters or something similar to, you know, what you would get into
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  on your show. So I'm kind of like, what does that dream mean?
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  You know? And I had to wake up and go to work and
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  stuff, and I'm just trying to like keep this dream together in my head
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  before I had a chance. I didn't have a chance to write it down
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  or anything like that, and usually by the end of the day, I've
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  forgotten like ninety percent of it. But I was determined to like remember the
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  details of this so I could talk to you about it. You know.
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  For me, that's like, okay, I'm getting rid of trash. Like
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  that's kind of symbolic like a in a in a dream or you know,
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  in a spirit sense. And then the way I look at your show sometimes
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  when I'm you know, I've got a lot of rubble and debris and stuff
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  to clean off those launch pads, like you say, you know, I
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  tune into your show and you were remind me of like spiritual warfare and you
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  know, getting into the spirit and just like being there in God's rest and
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  just letting God like show you all these wonderful things. And so to me,
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  that's what the dream was about. I'm trying to get rid of this
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  trash because my show I'm talking about you know, vampires and aliens and you
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  know, witches and all kinds of stuff, and I think for me,
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  you can get bogged down in that. You know, they say, like,
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  you know, you stare so long into the darkness it starts to like
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  affect you. And so I was like, I got to shift the focus.
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  I'm doing too many shows like this. I want to do a show
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  where we get into some more like positive things in the spirit. So that's
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  that dream kind of coincided with this idea that I had, which was interesting,
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  you know, to get you on the show to talk about that.
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  So yeah, where you want to start, Well, let's let's bounce off
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  that too, because I'm very flattered. I make jokes about like never needing
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  or wanting or lusting for a Lamborghini. So that's like the that's the irony.
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  First of all, it's like does it fly? Does it time travel?
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  Like what's what else does it do besides turned heads and go fast and
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  well compared to my old pickup truck, I think this it was symbolic of
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  something way more technologically advanced, like you know, a V twelve or whatever
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  the thing that had in it. Like it was like yeah, so yeah,
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  it didn't mean an actual Lamborghini symbolic. Well, am I allowed to
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  ask you? Like do you actually take your trash? Like do you have
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  to physically like take your trash to a dump or do you have a notice?
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  No? But I accumulate trash in my truck just back and forth to
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  work and here and there snacks and yeah, sure, but you don't actually
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  have to take all your households trash to the dump. No, physically no,
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  they pick it up at the curb. Okay, because I do,
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  and I we have like four babies and animals in a homestead, and it
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  takes forever, and sometimes the trash place is closed, and I literally like
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  look for dumpsters where I'm not going to get arrested, and sometimes where I
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  might get arrested. At like two o'clock in the morning to just like secretly
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  get rid of like tons of trash. So it's just funny that you had
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  that drink because that's literally my life in beat up truck. You know,
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  that's funny. So that's kind of interesting. Hey what you got in there?
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  Well yeah, ooh no, officer, it is just just it's just
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  no, no, it's like, oh, dirty diapers. You're going with
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  me, put your hands on the hood, you know, it's just my
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  kids and other dirty diapers. Wow. Well, let's let's do this,
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  man, let's let's go in there. I mean, my flesh, I
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  don't feel worthy to even be talking about this stuff. It's so glorious what
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  God has for us. And and you know that's why we need to talk
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  about it, you know, yeah, exactly, it's real. And I
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  mean we're all guilty of it, the Fringe people, and and we tip
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  our hat to Michael Heiser. We're not going to channel Michael Heiser here,
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  guys. He's not a spirit helper that's going to show up in your room,
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  but he might show up in your dreams. And all of us who
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  fall asleep listening to podcasts, how many times have you had a dream with
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  that person that is speaking or someone like them. I certainly have h with
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  a number of my favorite people that I listen to to fall asleep and it's
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  like you're talking to them in the dream. And maybe there is an interface
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  there in the spirit when I mean the power of the of the voice,
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  the power of words. And is Michael Heiser like in cryostasis now or is
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  he able to access somehow like all the people that he touched maybe and be
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  like a saint. I mean he is a saint. You know, how
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  does that work? What would Michael Heiser say about this? You know?
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  I mean I don't know, like how does that work? So I don't
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  know how that works. But I had that experience when Rustizdar died. He
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  came to me in a dream just like three days later, So I know
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  it's possible. But if not, if if you don't encounter you know,
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  Michael Heiser, then you have his body of work that he's left behind.
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  And it's just it's really ground zero for like the fringe Christian movement, the
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  unseen Realm, Like that's kind of required reading. And in my opinion,
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  like if if you really are a Christian and you really believe the Bible.
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  You really believe the words of Jesus, you kind of by default you have
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  a spiritual worldview. You have to. And like Jesus meeting with Moses and
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  Elijah on the Mountain of Transfiguration, did Jesus look freaked out? Was he
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  like demanding that they, you know, pass the test of not being a
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  false spirit? No, he was just he was already in that mode.
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  And I think that the disciples, they were freaked out. They never saw
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  anything like that. But maybe Jesus was doing that a lot. Like maybe
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  when he read the scriptures and he went away into the quiet place of the
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  Most High, he was able to commune with the cloud of witnesses and maybe
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  occasionally one of the prophets showed up or a random spiritual entity that he was
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  able to interface with. But he didn't talk about that because I think this
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  is the kind of stuff. It's like, this is the kind of stuff
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  that you get into once you've already covered all the bases, like you've forsaken
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  all you've I mean, you're not in this for the money, obviously.
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  I mean we're all like on death wish being disciples for Jesus. Anyway,
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  you know, there's no love of the world, there's no lust of the
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  flesh. You're not after a silver Lamborghini, which is why probably I actually
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  do, probably have one in the spirit somewhere. That's hilarious, even the
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  spaceships. Like I'm a total dork and I love Sci Fi. And there's
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  nothing cooler to me than a giant flying spaceship like whatever shape or size.
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  And whenever I encounter one in the spirit or in dreams or I meet a
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  prophet that talks about God having that, I am all ears because it's so
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  freaking cool. But that doesn't mean, you know, it's just God is
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  so big, why can't he give us those awesome things in the spirit?
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  And we certainly need them, and we certainly need an open heaven. We
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  certainly need to have a vision of heaven and to get out of the trash.
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  And I'm doing Airbnb flipping, so I go to these beautiful houses and
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  cabins that are just immaculately clean. When I get there and I'm like,
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  what do I have to clean here? Like this is already clean. And
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  that's actually a business, is flipping Airbnb's It's like twenty five an hour if
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  you're fast enough just to clean a house. So you know, all you
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  guys that are you know, you got your you got your registration to be
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  a professional dingle bopper. Congratulations. But I'm cleaning toilets for way too much
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  money. But I'll stop, I'll meditate, I'll pray, and I'll just
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  imagine. Like the gateway is through your imagination. It's not like you're making
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  it up, but it's like you're giving God that place where you know you
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  are engaging, and then He is engaging. And I was thinking about chat
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  GPT today because it's almost like chat GPT, like what is directing that answer?
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  It's almost like a Wiji board or something. It's so bizarre how real
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  it is. And now everybody's getting introduced to this divination through AI. Why
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  aren't we spending time in the presence of God recording our prophecies, prayers,
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  visions, dreams. I'm a stickler for writing down dreams as soon as I
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  wake up. I mean, I don't care even if I whatever. My
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  wife knows now, she's just like, let okay, I'll give you ten
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  twenty minutes, like yes, let me write this. I have these ridiculous
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  things like crazy and I forget about them, and then I go back and
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  listen to them through text aloud. I've got the voice to speech thing,
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  and I'm literally going to other planets. I'm doing time travel. I'm doing
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  various weird, cool angelic interactions. Some of them are just random silly details
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  that but you want to record, even those, like if you're going to
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  be a dream journaler, even if you only remember one little random thing,
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  it still encapsulates the whole dream, like the flavor of it. And even
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  if you only have time for one scripture, open your Bible. Get one
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  scripture. Even if you only have time to write down one sentence like thank
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  you Jesus for this day Amen, write it down, or one prophecy like
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  the Lord speaking, I Am with you, fear not. It's worth it.
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  But if you have a little bit more time, then you might actually
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  get a vision. You might actually step in. In twenty ten, I
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  broke through the door. I was like, God, I'm sick and tired
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  of all these new agers and all these psychics and all these witches having all
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  the fun. Why am I sitting here reading the Bible over and over again
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  and I never get to engage with the Bible. No, I'm going to
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  push down the I'm gonna keep knocking here. I'm going to push down the
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  door I want to get in. And it was a timeline that began.
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  I call it the Phoenix Prophecy Era, and I'm going to publish them someday,
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  but I have to weed out stuff that was unnecessary details. But like
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  I felt like there was something happening then, and it was the trifecta of
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  like energy coming up to the big earthquake in Japan. I got with my
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  wife at the time and we had a baby, and all kinds of stuff
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  was happening, and it was just months before that. It was like Enoch
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  was a big issue and the fringe Christian movement rust Dizdar. I just found
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  out about Russ that day, like a week before the day that I found
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  out about Russ. I lie down on my bed and I have an open
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  vision, the first ever, like where I'm not asleep but I'm actually seeing
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  a vision. And it was of a stargate with soldiers coming through the stargate
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  into my subconscious or my consciousness brain and they had guns and I was like
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  freaking out and I was using a prayer weapon. I used called the Keys
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  of the Kingdom turned to swords, very simple. As soon as I prayed
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  it, all their equipment broke off. The stargate closed and the soldiers were
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  all confused, and I'm like, what the heck was that? The vision
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  ended. I get out of my bunk bed. I'm in a dormitory.
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  I go to the cafeteria and my friend had given me a link it.
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  It was Rustistar. I'd never heard of him, and he got into the
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  fact that oh, there's this Unseatanic army, antichrist army super soldier program.
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  I'm like, oh my gosh, Like I know about the super Soldier program.
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  I didn't know there was Christians talking about this. So I believe Russ
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  Tissar and I've had a matter with him in the spirit too. I believe
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  he is very active and he wants to get back into this operation that we're
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  doing. So you have it, yeah, and then you have then you
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  have the interpretation like right after that, like I have this crazy dream,
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  and then the same day Rusti Istar is there on his podcast like explaining it
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  to you, like what what you saw? Well, it was a sign.
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  It wasn't Rustistar himself, it was the spirit saying you need to pay
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  attention to this right. And also the endem me was threatened because I was
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  about to step into the spirit at the time, and it was before a
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  very difficult time in my life, you know, getting into a marriage that
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  was not easy, and like the only outlet I would have was the spirit.
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  I found out that you can just go to the Spirit anytime you have
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  time, like we watch movies or we veg out on our phones with social
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  media. Instead of doing that, you can just step into the spirit and
• 31:29
  boom, I mean, God will take you places. Heaven is very big.
• 31:32
  It's much bigger than the earth, obviously, but we don't really think
• 31:37
  of it that way. We think of this golden street and a river and
• 31:41
  a throne and somewhere some mansions and apartment buildings and thrones or crowns or random
• 31:48
  beasts or angels and me it's just very ethereal. What if heaven was just
• 31:52
  like Earth in a way where you have property, you have acts to legit
• 32:01
  stuff, I mean, things like tangible things that exist, and what if
• 32:07
  you were to step into that place and to begin to engage with it and
• 32:10
  just take baby steps at first, if you're afraid but the visions will be
• 32:15
  all over the place in the beginning. You're not going to suddenly like just
• 32:20
  be in your heavenly mansion and I'm in the throne room. You're going to
• 32:23
  be seeing through a glass darkly. It's going to take faith, but I'm
• 32:27
  telling you, the more you do it, you will see the effects of
• 32:30
  it in your life. And most of all, the fruit is like the
• 32:31
  spirit of fruit of the spirit of peace, the fruits of the spirit peace,
• 32:37
  patients, love, joy, kindness that will trickle into your life,
• 32:40
  and spiritual warfare. To expect the enemy to come in and be like no,
• 32:45
  because you are like tapping in. You're turning into some kind of giant
• 32:52
  star commander position. When you start to access heaven all the time, You're
• 32:55
  literally going to be helping to direct stuff in history, in your town,
• 33:02
  geopolitically, in time space. I mean, you're going to be there with
• 33:07
  God helping to do stuff. It's crazy. It has nothing to do with
• 33:12
  your level of how spiritual you are. It's just because you show up to
• 33:15
  work. God puts you to work and he wants you to use the gifts
• 33:17
  that He gives you, and you, yes, you will begin to meet
• 33:22
  special spiritual entities, and you will begin to see patterns and names. It's
• 33:29
  going to look like a dang anime. At some point you'll get lost in
• 33:34
  the spirit and it's great. Oh crap, I got lost in heaven.
• 33:37
  Where I go? Oh wait, no, I'm in heaven. It's fine
• 33:38
  to be lost here, you know. Anyway, cut me off at any
• 33:42
  time. Brother, I'm well, I'm labor No, it's great. I
• 33:46
  was just thinking, Yeah, according to your faith. So if you have
• 33:52
  a small amount of faith to step into that, then God's going to show
• 33:54
  you a small little bit that you can handle at that time. And then
• 33:58
  I think the more faith, the more time investment you put into your time
• 34:04
  with God, and even setting like a do you believe in like dream seeding,
• 34:09
  kind of like setting an intention before you go to sleep, like God,
• 34:14
  show me something tonight like that I need to see. Show me,
• 34:16
  you know, give me a message tonight that I'll remember in the morning.
• 34:21
  The more you kind of foster that and grow that ability, I think God
• 34:25
  shows you more things, bigger things, more powerful things. Of course,
• 34:35
  everything is a back and forth with God. Read the Bible. Read how
• 34:39
  Abraham Moses dealt with God and Jacob even wrestling with God in a way like
• 34:47
  that's all there. And if you ask God a specific question, and I
• 34:52
  think we shy away from this and we kind of we decrease ourselves so that
• 34:59
  our own and you know what we want and say, oh, well,
• 35:04
  I'm just you know, a little nothing. No, you're what you say
• 35:08
  with your words. God, You'll notice he takes you exactly at your words.
• 35:14
  Sure, So I mean, at the very least, pray and ask
• 35:16
  God for dream seating, like God, I really need help with this.
• 35:22
  Please show me about that or whatever, and get specific, because he's not
• 35:27
  afraid of the details. He's not afraid to get into the muck and the
• 35:30
  meyer and the yucky and the pain. And I think that's where most Christians
• 35:35
  stop. And I should probably focus a little more on that. I mean,
• 35:38
  in many ways, my life is pretty messy because I've just been so
• 35:43
  all over the place and there's been so many ups and downs and just I've
• 35:47
  encountered so many different places and people and things that to try to organize all
• 35:53
  that is just ridiculous. But committee it all to God and then being like,
• 35:58
  well, God, what are you thinking about today? Right? And
• 36:02
  yeah, okay, I forgive everybody. Okay, yes I forgive, Yes,
• 36:06
  I forgive them, forgive me? Okay, Now where are we at
• 36:09
  and start from there? And don't you're not living in that fear. And
• 36:15
  I think we wake up and we're focused on does God love me or not
• 36:19
  because I screwed up or something, And there's a lot of work to be
• 36:23
  done in the forgiveness aspect of things. But what if you could step into
• 36:27
  the spirit and direct some of the the energies of heaven and rather in many
• 36:34
  ways, you show up and you are literally a baby, a child.
• 36:37
  You're not really like in control of heaven. So I feel like that's always
• 36:40
  the funny thing, like, oh yeah, I'm in heaven now, I'm
• 36:43
  so spiritual. All right, everybody's bound to me. The angels you up,
• 36:46
  you know, I mean, uh yeah. But kind of like when
• 36:52
  a baby comes in the room and everybody's like, oh so cute, Oh
• 36:55
  you should be cheat, Oh the chunky legs. Did you make a poop?
• 37:01
  You know? And that's a lot of times that's kind of how what
• 37:05
  happens. It's like, yes, you can direct angels and encounter wisdom the
• 37:08
  entity herself, which I had a long spat with wisdom in the last few
• 37:15
  months that I want to get into deeper detail with and release. I just
• 37:16
  need to edit some of those. But like a lot of it was just
• 37:21
  like, yeah, you're wounded, you need healing for this and that,
• 37:24
  and we're gonna basically, you know, take care of this stuff in your
• 37:28
  life and just lie out on this stretcher for a while and we're going to
• 37:31
  do some ivs and you know, you need to unlearn a lot of things.
• 37:37
  I got to go and eat from the tree of onknowledge of good and
• 37:39
  evil, or rather some certain knowledge that I didn't need. It was it
• 37:45
  was like a humbling, stupefying experience before wisdom, like because wisdom has more
• 37:52
  to show us, and we're we're so full of our own understanding, and
• 37:58
  there's things happening that are just off the charts. Like God is so active.
• 38:02
  I believe he's doing things that would make all of the sci fi movies
• 38:07
  and fantasy movies stumble in ignorance and be like wait, wait, wait,
• 38:12
  wait, what what? But it would also maybe fulfill some of the more
• 38:17
  bizarre kind of stuff that people have seen in these in these fictions and comic
• 38:23
  books and what we look at Marvel movies. You know, did you see
• 38:28
  the new ant Man yet or are you into any of those? No?
• 38:32
  I saw one of the ant Man, but not the most recent one,
• 38:38
  and my interest level is kind of like me, yeah, me too.
• 38:44
  I'll probably just watch like a downloaded version of it. But I kind of
• 38:49
  get the idea like he, you know, he can shrink down to the
• 38:52
  quantum level. And yeah, well we we live in a world now and
• 38:58
  we're so focused on and you know, the vaccine deaths and are you are
• 39:04
  you doing a YouTube channel by the way, or no? No, oh
• 39:08
  right, I can do what you want. Oh yeah, absolutely. Where
• 39:15
  are you posting ministry X right now? Besides Sprint Radio network. I'm like
• 39:20
  you, I have my I have my own uh speaker feed uh and then
• 39:25
  it gets posted also to Fringe Radio network. Oh no way, Oh I
• 39:31
  gotta I've got to follow that. That's great. Yeah, I think everybody
• 39:35
  should have their own feed like that, and then the network is a place
• 39:38
  for people to to kind of like just get everything. So I was thinking
• 39:44
  at some point maybe having you know, bright Tyon or rock Fin or something
• 39:49
  like that channel, but I just haven't got to the video aspect of it.
• 39:52
  Yet I like audio. It's it's simple, it's like direct, it's
• 39:59
  it's not as complicated as putting together video content. Well, when you have
• 40:06
  a life where when you're actively engaged in things and you don't want to pay
• 40:10
  for people to edit stuff, it's yeah. I mean there's been times in
• 40:15
  my life where I can do video editing, but it's not consistent enough to
• 40:19
  do it in any meaningful way. Except for TikTok. I guess that's the
• 40:24
  only place you can engage with people immediately and feel like a little bit of
• 40:28
  satisfaction. But writeon or you know, once in a while, rumble upload
• 40:32
  it's like, no, I don't have time for that. Cool. Well,
• 40:37
  what do you think about all this stuff? Man? I mean,
• 40:39
  what's what else? I mean as far as like, okay, so we're
• 40:43
  talking about vampires. Maybe there's ways to call down angelic reinforcements to deal with
• 40:51
  some of these topics of whatever things that go bump in the night and neflin
• 40:55
  you know, like, have you ever had any any connection there that yeah,
• 41:01
  or like even just ideas of how that could work. I've had some
• 41:08
  maybe you could say fleeting, you know, spiritual experiences where I believe I've
• 41:14
  encountered, you know, an angel. I've had a real life experience,
• 41:20
  you know, encountering an angel. As far as dreams, though my dreams
• 41:24
  seem to be like I'm in a labyrinth, or like I'm trying to solve
• 41:30
  a puzzle all the time, or I'm trying to escape a maze or something.
• 41:35
  It seems to be a very prominent theme in my dreams. So I
• 41:42
  don't know if I've if I've graduated to the point of, you know,
• 41:45
  launching off to these other realms and planets and stuff, although I've had you
• 41:51
  know, glimpses of that and and sort of these involuntary experiences like that where
• 41:57
  I feel like God just kind of uh plugged into my head, my channel,
• 42:02
  my frequency momentarily to tell me something very directly. But I still struggle
• 42:09
  with stuff like sorting out like, okay, is that the Holy Spirit speaking
• 42:15
  to me? Is that my own you know, sort of consciousness talking to
• 42:19
  me. So I'm always kind of wanting more clarification on that, I guess.
• 42:28
  But it's also uh, when you're sort of wrapped up in the day
• 42:31
  to day and you just barely have enough time when you get home from work
• 42:35
  to you know, cook something to eat and shower and get to bed,
• 42:39
  and then you're asleep and your alarm clock and you're up and you're rushing back
• 42:44
  to work the next day. It's kind of hard to set aside time where
• 42:49
  you can actually be in that more like meditative state to say, Okay,
• 42:52
  i'm gonna read a little Bible, i'm gonna pray, I'm gonna you know,
• 42:57
  close my eyes, I'm gonna see, you know, I'm gonna see
• 43:00
  if I can enter in, you know, to the spirit and if God
• 43:06
  has anything important to like reveal to me. Finding the time is kind of
• 43:13
  a difficult thing. That's always the challenge. But sorry, I lost you
• 43:22
  for just ten seconds. But I get the drift of the gist, and
• 43:25
  okay, like once you find out that you have access to like having your
• 43:31
  own spirit portal or like think of like an eighties movie that's really nostalgic,
• 43:37
  like something like the Flight of the Navigator type of movie, but maybe not
• 43:40
  that movie, but something akin to that era, right where a kid finds
• 43:47
  an alien spaceship in his barn and it's like literally ready to take him anywhere
• 43:53
  to do missions throughout the universe and all he has to do is sneak out
• 43:58
  after school or whatever, and he has access to this thing, and he
• 44:02
  still has his life, but this thing is always there waiting for him.
• 44:07
  And it's those movies were often really creepy, so you know, minus that
• 44:10
  kind of area. But but yeah, like just graduating from the labyrinth of
• 44:21
  being stuck in the in the Babylonian system and then when a lot of people
• 44:23
  leave that, and then it's the fear of oh my gosh, the real
• 44:27
  world is so scary, and like Neo getting unplugged from the Matrix without the
• 44:32
  Nebukadnezzer picking them up. You know, he's like flailing around. He's never
• 44:37
  used his muscles before, he has never used his eyes. He's just being
• 44:42
  flushed out into the toilet soup of the matrix place, you know, the
• 44:46
  big toilet thing underneath all the pods. But then this Nebu Kadezer ship shows
• 44:52
  up and they they rescue him and they bring him aboard this revolutionary group of
• 45:00
  well they don't look that glorious in real life, but then they have access
• 45:04
  to like Jack into the Matrix and they have all this technology and I look
• 45:07
  at the fringe pretio network, like one of those Nabuked Nezar's. But there's
• 45:10
  also other groups of Christians too that have learned how to jack into the spirit,
• 45:16
  and they're few and far between. I've studied under at least a dozen
• 45:24
  or so of these kind of guys, and I found that it's really just
• 45:29
  up to you and God, and you can jack into the spirit, and
• 45:34
  you can hack into the matrix, and we can be like my wife and
• 45:37
  I when we first got together, and we were long dist since dating at
• 45:42
  first, and we would just jack into the spirit and we were engaging with
• 45:45
  like Ai, like we were going in and trying to conquer this Ai spirit
• 45:51
  and doing all kinds of fun things. It was just there was no limit
• 45:53
  to what we could do. And then of course we actually got together and
• 45:55
  we got married, and we got babies, and we got busy and we
• 45:59
  got working. But that whole if you even just do it like a few
• 46:05
  times, it counts like you have to look at Him and then in your
• 46:07
  schedule, if you could just scratch out a little bubble of your life,
• 46:13
  like just to actually be conscious of it. Maybe you're just driving your car
• 46:15
  and you just start to worship God and your spirit. Give God everything and
• 46:21
  just devote yourself to him and ask him to take your life. Ask God
• 46:27
  to abduct you, you know, yes, Lord, just take me,
• 46:32
  you know, and possess me. As another thing we used to say in
• 46:37
  the family when I was with the Children of God, and I still meet
• 46:39
  a lot of the ex members and people that are still missionaries that were a
• 46:44
  part of that, but we used to just absolutely just demand God to possess
• 46:52
  us. And I'm not saying you lose your free will, but you willingly
• 46:54
  give God the reins of your life and then yeah, go ahead, go
• 47:00
  ahead, Sorry, no, no, no, no, you well,
• 47:05
  I think that that's the kind of the greatest challenge that Jesus gives to us,
• 47:09
  is He's like, Okay, I got one more task for you.
• 47:12
  Give up everything, sell everything you have and follow me. And I think
• 47:15
  that's the hardest thing for people like I can't, you know, give up
• 47:22
  this life that I have. And Jesus, you know, is like,
• 47:25
  okay, well, you know, if you're not at that point, then
• 47:30
  you know, if what's the other scripture where He's like, if I cannot
• 47:36
  explain earthly things to you, how can I show you these heavenly things like.
• 47:45
  I think that's a big challenge for a lot of people to leave the
• 47:47
  Matrix behind. Essentially, Well, it's getting easier now that the matrix is
• 47:55
  so terrible and we know that it's trying to kill us, and we know
• 48:00
  that it's toxic, and we're gonna be finding ourselves back in communities where we
• 48:08
  homeschool, we have our own little off grid kind of separated from the world.
• 48:15
  It doesn't have to be amish. I mean, you could still have
• 48:17
  the Internet usually. I mean, I still have a car. You can
• 48:22
  still have jobs. I mean I'm literally at a job right now, at
• 48:25
  a truck stop. In between me blabbering, I'm just portioning okra like frozen
• 48:34
  fried okra to like. I mean, I do all kinds of little gigs
• 48:39
  I'll do. I'll paint, I will pressure wash, I will fix my
• 48:46
  own car if I can. I mean, I'll do things so that I
• 48:49
  don't have to like join some weird CULTI club called a career and then lose
• 48:54
  my soul and take a vaccine. And the matrix is so dead now that
• 48:59
  anybodyody that still believes in it. My dad just literally quit his job.
• 49:02
  The best possible job for a violinist in southwest Florida. He quit his job.
• 49:08
  He let them fire him and force him into early retirement because they were
• 49:14
  making everybody take the death shot. And everybody there is miserable and flabbergasted.
• 49:19
  And wow, Glenn Basham left the Naples Philharmonic and quietly, only him and
• 49:24
  maybe a handful of other musicians. And those people are not happy that are
• 49:30
  staying there. But my dad and I we've been catching up on twenty years
• 49:34
  of lost time with a little bit of bourbon and a cigar around a bonfire
• 49:38
  or a woodburning stove and a cabin here in the smoky mountains. And it's
• 49:44
  glorious. And that's great. I mean, what do you want? You
• 49:46
  really want to live in the matrix and let it not just starve you spiritually
• 49:51
  but kill you physically, or do you want to live free? And yeah,
• 49:57
  it's it's been amazing. Meanwhile, the dreams have continued. I mean
• 50:01
  even when I'm not like, oh, I don't have like half the day
• 50:05
  to hide in a you know, cave somewhere. Although I will say this,
• 50:10
  if you have access to hikes, the best place you go for a
• 50:15
  hike bring a thermos, bring a thermos filled with coffee, and a notepad,
• 50:21
  a bible, a pen and just go up there. And it sounds
• 50:25
  so cliche, but I'm telling you, God speaks to his people on the
• 50:30
  mountain. Yeah, it's one of the best places to do it. Yeah,
• 50:35
  that's one of my favorite things to do when I have the time.
• 50:37
  Just get out for two or three hours, go for a hike, you
• 50:42
  know, find a quiet spot. Yeah, and just connect with God.
• 50:46
  And used to be able to do it a lot easier a long time ago.
• 50:52
  You know, when I was a teenager and you know, not so
• 50:55
  concerned about, you know, the things that the world. It was much
• 51:00
  easier to get spiritual insights now and now it's like you kind of I was
• 51:09
  raised like, you know, my father's very much you know, well,
• 51:15
  you get what you get in life, and you work hard and this is
• 51:16
  what you get and you know, but never any sort of spiritual instruction.
• 51:25
  So you know, my parents were like, well, I don't understand what
• 51:29
  you do when you go hiking and you just disappear all day, and you
• 51:32
  know, how do you explain that to your parents? I'm going to you
• 51:35
  know, so somewhere where it's quiet, so I can think, so I
• 51:37
  can just experience, like you know, nature, God. So just trying
• 51:46
  to find time to hold on to that is really important. And like you
• 51:51
  said, sometimes you have to just squeeze it into you know, your trips
• 51:54
  back and forth to work or whenever you can. But it is it's vital
• 52:00
  to keep going. It's almost like, you know, you're Frodo and you
• 52:07
  put on the ring and like you disappear out of the shire and you appear
• 52:15
  in the spirit world and all of a sudden, they're like, oh,
• 52:17
  looky here, what do we have here? They can see you all of
• 52:21
  a sudden, and then you're like, oh crap, and you take the
• 52:22
  ring off and you're like, oh, that was scary. You know,
• 52:25
  I don't want to do that again, Like that was weird. Learning to
• 52:30
  just like trust and get into that space and walk around in that space,
• 52:37
  that's something I've kind of set an intention to make that a more important part
• 52:44
  of my life. One of the mentors of which I speak is called doctor
• 52:52
  Oh, very famous. He's a x A lot of these people are ex
• 52:57
  witches and they understand the spirit realm from the dark and they're like, what
• 53:00
  the heck, why are the Christians not like doing anything in the spirit.
• 53:04
  They're just sitting there pretending to be spiritual and like they're not doing anything.
• 53:09
  So a lot of these X witches ex psychics, not all of them.
• 53:14
  Some of them are afraid of it and they go to like they think of
• 53:15
  the spirit as like AA meeting, like you should never touch it again,
• 53:21
  like just be a Christian, but don't touch the spirit, like what But
• 53:23
  some of them Doctor O, Ian Clayton, they're they're on it. And
• 53:30
  doctor O used to say, well, we need more Christians to go into
• 53:35
  the spirit. We need Christians to act Christian heaven and to travel the spirit.
• 53:39
  Not a good impression, but that when you do this, it's not
• 53:45
  being selfish. It's you being Clark Kent putting on the Superman costume. Not
• 53:51
  to have a like a narcissist complex. But the world needs us. The
• 53:57
  world is waiting for us. The world, I wouldn't say, is as
• 54:00
  much as important as God is waiting for us. God is like I'm doing
• 54:05
  things, what are you doing? I watched Black Panther Wakonda Forever part of
• 54:10
  it I just skipped through it. Can't watch these Marvel movies. Most of
• 54:14
  them are terrible, but I still I trudged through them to see what are
• 54:17
  they showing us? Right? And it was bang. It was like,
• 54:21
  oh my gosh, the marine kingdom, the undersea spirits, the beings that
• 54:27
  exist under the water, and it really shows you. It's like the I
• 54:30
  don't know, the Marvel version of Aquaman, like showing you these that under
• 54:37
  the sea, there are these kingdoms of beings and they're evil. A lot
• 54:42
  of them are evil. Oh yeah, all the way man. And then
• 54:49
  I'm thinking, man, this is so confirming because I've had so many dreams,
• 54:52
  visions prophecies about the undersea kingdoms and the marine spirits and they're all bad.
• 54:58
  On Earth. They're bad, like we don't have any good things,
• 55:00
  Like the marine kingdom on Earth is bad. The mermaids never met a good
• 55:07
  mermaid on Earth. But if you get trippy enough, you might have a
• 55:12
  dream prophecy vision trip with Jesus where he shows you something like, well,
• 55:15
  there's off off world kingdom planets where we actually have good marine kingdoms, and
• 55:23
  let's bring that here. Like I'm like, God, why am I pressure
• 55:27
  washing and hosing restaurant floors down and like literally like wiping toilets all day and
• 55:34
  killing myself doing this. I'm educated. I should be doing the Chinese podcasts
• 55:38
  that Omega Man commissioned me to do. I should be doing you know,
• 55:42
  important stuff. Why am I cleaning all the time? What the And he's
• 55:46
  showing me that the river of life, in the spirit, we are actually
• 55:52
  bringing stuff from other realms for the Kingdom realm first of all. But he's
• 55:55
  God likes to use things around him. He doesn't just do it. Look,
• 56:00
  we'll all good in there and do and roll up my sleeves. He'll
• 56:02
  use whatever is at hand, you know, bring me the loaves and the
• 56:07
  fishes. Sometimes he uses nature, he uses things that are there, and
• 56:13
  he uses Trump or he uses you know us, he uses the Fringe radio
• 56:17
  network and earthly forces. Well, he showed me that there are beings on
• 56:23
  other worlds that want to help us, that we can become like kind of
• 56:30
  like diplomats. And one of my recent trips was to meet with Kingdom realms
• 56:37
  of aquatic beings, like like realms of like they have stars under the water
• 56:45
  that light up everything, and they have farms and they have civilizations and it's
• 56:50
  just I mean, maybe it's my imagination I don't know, but I would
• 56:52
  go into prayer and I would literally see this and just write it down and
• 56:55
  then forget about it because it's too weird. But we're talking about this subject,
• 57:00
  and what was the purpose of that. I'm like, Lord, why
• 57:01
  am I seeing this? And he's saying, well, the seas of Earth
• 57:06
  are filled with wickedness and dark beings, the marine spirits that people talk about,
• 57:13
  the perverted, weird, yucky. I mean, all I do is
• 57:16
  live on islands. I go from Hawaii to Taiwan to Japan. Finally I'm
• 57:22
  getting a break. I'm living like far away from the seas in the mountains.
• 57:27
  You know, we got a lot of Cherokee Indian spirits here. But
• 57:30
  I kind of have a theory about the Earth. I kind of have a
• 57:34
  theory about that as far as the underwater spirits. Obviously, the sea is
• 57:42
  equated with chaos and Leviathan and evil in the Bible. It's like a symbol
• 57:52
  for that, and that could be. And I don't know what you think
• 57:55
  about this, but as you were talking, I was thinking, well,
• 57:59
  it's the only form of life that survived the flood. You know, a
• 58:04
  lot of the sea spirits or the rather the spirits like of the nepheline that
• 58:13
  perished in the flood, Well, they only have one escape route and that's
• 58:16
  the water, and a lot of it's still there. I think, I
• 58:24
  don't know if what you think about there, if there's any dots to connect
• 58:28
  there, Dude, that is that is mega, man, that is huge.
• 58:35
  I never thought about that. Wow. You know, like Jesus cast
• 58:39
  out Legion, here goes into Sorry, when Jesus casts out Legion, you
• 58:45
  know, they go into a herd of pigs and the first thing they do
• 58:50
  is go off a cliff into the water. Well, if those spirits don't
• 58:54
  perish, you know, the pigs perish, but the spirits remain. They're
• 58:59
  in the water, they're still there. I don't know. Maybe no,
• 59:07
  you're onto something, brother, that that is insanely, insanely important. So
• 59:14
  in other words, it would that makes sense that a lot of the evil
• 59:16
  spirits, that there's a high concentration of that in the oceans. But maybe,
• 59:22
  yeah, like you said, somewhere off world, you know, there's
• 59:24
  some clean waters with you know, a whole different civilization of beings that you
• 59:30
  know, God you know, created a long time before he created man or
• 59:35
  something you know, that's definitely in the realm of possibilities. Well and and
• 59:40
  so and people, the Christians that I interact with, they say, well,
• 59:44
  they're all bad. Okay, Well I agree, you know, and
• 59:46
  I see these things on Earth and I have dreams and visions about, you
• 59:52
  know, wicked dark things, and they there's psychic like they're able to camouflage
• 59:57
  themselves and to make you not see them. Yeah, kind of like gray
• 1:00:00
  aliens. A lot of people have actually encountered gray aliens and they don't know
• 1:00:05
  it because as you're looking at them, you're forgetting that you're seeing them.
• 1:00:08
  Yes, it's a very bizarre thing about the aliens. I'm not thinking about
• 1:00:14
  this all the time, guys. I am actually a practical person with a
• 1:00:17
  homestead with three kids, and you know, I know, I have a
• 1:00:21
  driver's license, and you know, I'm a very upstanding, tax paying American,
• 1:00:28
  trilingual and educated. And I'm just telling you because we're talking about this
• 1:00:32
  subject. But those things exist, and on the network we talk about this
• 1:00:37
  a lot, and we used to do a lot more. But alien abductions.
• 1:00:42
  Ala mar Zuli is still right on this, which is why we should
• 1:00:45
  all be listening. And we got to get La back on the network.
• 1:00:50
  I really need to reach out to him because yeah, another story, but
• 1:00:55
  these spirits and another realm. I mean, I'm just kind of touching on
• 1:01:00
  different things really fast because I know the interest of time. But is the
• 1:01:05
  pixty realm like the fairy realm? You're told, Oh, all the little
• 1:01:08
  people are evil, all the pixies and fairies are devilish, and they're all
• 1:01:13
  Nephelim and they're all bad. Well, okay, fine, but you know
• 1:01:19
  then you ask the Lord about that? What does God say about that?
• 1:01:22
  And remove the religious spirits? And He's like, I have my own connections
• 1:01:30
  with these beings otherworldly, not on earth, but in other places. And
• 1:01:37
  I am beginning to have some of these experiences where I could get into detail.
• 1:01:43
  But I mean, what do you think about fairies, dude? Like,
• 1:01:45
  I mean, are they all bad? Are fairies all trying to kill
• 1:01:47
  us all the time? What do you think diagnosed on? I think there's
• 1:01:51
  probably a spectrum of as far as how they interact with human beings. I
• 1:02:00
  think some of them are sort of ambivalent. It's almost like a trade off,
• 1:02:04
  like if you do something nice for me, you know, if you
• 1:02:07
  leave some cookies in the forest, you know, for me or something.
• 1:02:10
  I'll do something fun for you, I'll do something nice for you. I
• 1:02:17
  think when you study a lot of indigenous cultures and they talk about the little
• 1:02:22
  people, I tend to think that their spirits they're like remnants of like some
• 1:02:34
  chimeric creation that have kind of evolved. They've survived, they've become their own
• 1:02:40
  little species. But because some of their nature is divine and some of it
• 1:02:50
  is like material, they sort of exist in a different dimension, so we
• 1:02:53
  don't always perceive them. But I haven't personally had any experiences with anything good,
• 1:03:02
  like good as in aligned with God. I think they're out there and
• 1:03:07
  they have sort of their own set of rules, their own sort of moral
• 1:03:13
  structure and stuff. But yeah, very interesting. And then when you start
• 1:03:21
  to look into all the connections with the fae, the fairy realm, and
• 1:03:24
  and then get into the alien abduction conversation, there's a lot of parallels there
• 1:03:30
  that are that are very interesting. And like you said, some of these
• 1:03:35
  beings they can disguise themselves. One of their attributes, one of their skills
• 1:03:42
  is deception. Like they're they're not going to reveal who they really are.
• 1:03:46
  They're going their Their goal is to manipulate you in most cases, so they
• 1:03:54
  can appear as this or that. They can. You know, to a
• 1:03:59
  modern person, they might appear to be a gray. To someone who was
• 1:04:03
  living in the twelfth century, they may appear like a little gremlin or something.
• 1:04:09
  You know, it's very much like they appear. In other words,
• 1:04:16
  I don't think they exist without our conscious engagement with them. So it's very
• 1:04:23
  tied into our sort of mental perception of what they are and sort of the
• 1:04:26
  image that our brain creates for us when we experience them. So yeah,
• 1:04:34
  if there are more little helpful tribes of fairies and stuff that are actually working
• 1:04:41
  with God, and I'd like to, you know, I'd like to meet
• 1:04:44
  them and introduce myself. Well, and I don't mean to make this show
• 1:04:50
  only about like the controversial subject about well are there good gray aliens or mean
• 1:04:57
  the aliens are all bad? No, we should move it to heaven,
• 1:05:02
  but just to finish off on that, and we should do more shows about
• 1:05:05
  this. Man. I mean, this is really good to talk with you,
• 1:05:09
  and I appreciate it. I'm sorry, I don't know my good mic.
• 1:05:12
  I'm just recording this with my phone here, but I'm just telling you,
• 1:05:18
  like off the top of my head, and in the last few years,
• 1:05:20
  where we're going with my personal family friends that have encountered these beings,
• 1:05:29
  little girls that have been abused, encountering a small fairy kind of a being
• 1:05:35
  Pixie who consoled her through an abusive childhood and helped her to preserve her innocence.
• 1:05:43
  And she would be appearing any time that this individual needed to talk to
• 1:05:49
  her. And I have that recording Pixie talks on I haven't I think I
• 1:05:56
  may have put it on the Fringe radio network, but it may have gotten
• 1:05:59
  buried under the feed somewhere. But I've been looking for these kind of other
• 1:06:02
  things. Okay, okay, Well there's there's something to that. And I
• 1:06:08
  will say that it's it's like Japan. Like you guys don't know really what
• 1:06:13
  Japan is until you go to Japan and go there for like a few months.
• 1:06:15
  Don't just go there on vacation and go to the touristy places, like
• 1:06:18
  go live there and go stand somebody's house, go to the countryside, go
• 1:06:24
  to the matsudi, go to the I feel like fairyland or some of these
• 1:06:29
  off world fairylands, not the demonic, weird things that exist. This world
• 1:06:34
  is full of demons, guys. I mean this world. We live in
• 1:06:39
  a soup of filth in this planet. Although nature is beautiful, whatever,
• 1:06:45
  it's nice, Everything God made is perfect. But as far as the spirit
• 1:06:49
  goes, this is like a giant, simmering cooking pot of demons everywhere.
• 1:06:56
  And that's why when you go into the spirit here, if you're on drug
• 1:07:00
  or you're meditating the wrong religion or whatever, you're gonna encounter the wrong kind
• 1:07:05
  of thing. And I've been around the world. I've studied these religions.
• 1:07:10
  I've been, you know, through India and Nepal, and there's beautiful places.
• 1:07:14
  Everywhere I go, there's that feeling of something yucky. Sometimes there's a
• 1:07:18
  little bit more clean in this area, but all that area, no,
• 1:07:21
  that's really bad. And but if we get out of this world, if
• 1:07:27
  we get into the spirit, God will start to reveal things to you that
• 1:07:31
  you're like, No, God, we can't have nice giant lion beasts.
• 1:07:39
  Those are evil. And well, maybe on earth you encounter evil lions that
• 1:07:43
  will eat you and rip you apart, But in the heavenly there's there's the
• 1:07:45
  beast that is a lion. What about a cow? No, God,
• 1:07:49
  there can't be a cow. Remember the Israelig worshiped the Golden calv and it
• 1:07:55
  was something evil and demonic. You're all the bad well, but in heaven
• 1:07:58
  around the throne room, there's a giant cow beast that is helping worship God
• 1:08:04
  all the time. Same thing with the eagle. And you know that's why
• 1:08:09
  we I'm taking this to the to the other realms, like there is no
• 1:08:14
  limit with God. The angels that you meet, they don't always have wings,
• 1:08:18
  although I have encountered those two, and I think that the angelic is
• 1:08:24
  just it's so powerful if we just make rum in our life for it and
• 1:08:30
  and begin to encounter a little bit more the heavenly society. It's it's one
• 1:08:35
  of the things that we used to talk about in my old missionary days was
• 1:08:39
  the heavenly culture, that there is a heavenly culture of love, of protecting
• 1:08:44
  innocence, not raping it and neutering it like the libtards are now. There
• 1:08:53
  is there is is that innocence where you retain your innocence and that nostalgic feeling
• 1:08:58
  like oh, let's explain, or let's go into the caves and find some
• 1:09:01
  cool new things and let's go on to the stars. And I mean that
• 1:09:05
  exists in heaven and home base is the new Jerusalem, and you have access
• 1:09:13
  to the new Jerusalem and just start from there, like go to the throne
• 1:09:15
  room, have faith to ask God for specific details. I'm not in charge
• 1:09:23
  of heaven. Nobody is except for Jesus. So if you get a random
• 1:09:27
  vision, who am I to say it's not from God? And yes,
• 1:09:30
  again, you will engage through your imagination to a certain extent, Like there
• 1:09:34
  will be times where you're like, am I making this up? Or not?
• 1:09:39
  Who cares? Just go forward like it works actually, and you get
• 1:09:43
  out of that and you feel this peace. You feel like you just took
• 1:09:45
  a really long hot jacuzzie or sauna, you know, just went to the
• 1:09:50
  gym for five hours, and you're like, yeah, man, I'm ready
• 1:09:54
  to face the day. The heavens are open to us. The podcasts they're
• 1:09:58
  talking about Hell is open all the time. The heavens are open. The
• 1:10:02
  problem is if you have your religious spirit cap on, you're going to be
• 1:10:08
  questioning everything you see because there's going to be things in there that you didn't
• 1:10:13
  read about in the Bible, because the Bible is actually a really short book
• 1:10:16
  compared to what Heaven actually has for you. But you will never encounter anything
• 1:10:21
  that is against the Bible. Isn't that amazing to think that the Bible,
• 1:10:27
  like as much as there is written in the Bible, that that's that's just
• 1:10:30
  the basics. Yeah, well, because the Bible is not about learning all
• 1:10:39
  these mysteries. The mysteries are there's hints of the mysteries, but the Bible
• 1:10:43
  is about salvation, right, I mean that's really the point of the Bible.
• 1:10:45
  It's a very practical book and some history and some logistical things about you
• 1:10:50
  know, Old Testament law, and it's a very legal book. And yeah,
• 1:10:57
  sure everything you need to know is in the Bible for sure. But
• 1:11:00
  what if you could step into the Bible like a portal and one of the
• 1:11:04
  things that I will you know, it says let another man praise you and
• 1:11:08
  not your own mouth. So one of the things that people have given me
• 1:11:14
  positive feedback on is that when it comes to this mystic stuff, I stated
• 1:11:17
  the Bible like I'm very stickler with Okay, God, this is great,
• 1:11:24
  whatever off planet this is that, this is exciting, you know, new
• 1:11:28
  Jerusalem Logistics angel ships. How are we going to try to send rescue missions
• 1:11:34
  into the Turkey earthquake people that are being buried under there? And by the
• 1:11:40
  way, there are actual testimonies of white robed beings showing up in the fallen
• 1:11:47
  buildings, feeding the children, the survivors, and they're like, how did
• 1:11:51
  you survive so long? Well this, oh yeah, I got food and
• 1:11:55
  water. There are these people that came in my room with white clothes and
• 1:11:58
  they fed me and they I mean, we need to be on this,
• 1:12:00
  guys, like, this is not entertainment. This is not for your own
• 1:12:05
  flesh satisfaction that you're a great Christian, Like God needs an army in the
• 1:12:12
  spiritual forces of God to do stuff well, because one of those white robed
• 1:12:16
  people could have been sent by one of us, you know, interceding praying,
• 1:12:25
  you know, sending that emissary into that rubble. Yes, that being
• 1:12:31
  responding to a prayer from one of us, exactly exactly. And I mean
• 1:12:41
  I'm telling you this as a guilt. I'm guilty as charge. I'm not
• 1:12:43
  praying enough for the Turkey earthquake thing. No, we need to to be
• 1:12:47
  we need to be folk. When you look at the news. We need
• 1:12:50
  to be praying over Keem trails. We need to be praying over the war
• 1:12:55
  with Ukraine and Russia. I have had so many dreams with the run military.
• 1:13:00
  I can't tell you how many dreams I've had with them. And this
• 1:13:03
  is before the war started, like ministry kind of dreams. And but in
• 1:13:10
  my active prayer life, am I thinking about that or is that like a
• 1:13:14
  am I kind of disconnected? One thing you can do too that I've found
• 1:13:18
  a tactic that is effective is if you don't have enough time to step in
• 1:13:24
  and be all guruy and mystic ye and monkey. That's a new word.
• 1:13:30
  Monkey. Yeah. The adjective for monk is just if you can disassociate from
• 1:13:39
  your life and say, all right, I've got to focus on X,
• 1:13:44
  Y and Z in my life. Now, I've got taxes, whatever car
• 1:13:46
  needs to be fixed, got to drive here, stressful things, whatever wife
• 1:13:51
  isn't happy about this, or husband is, or you're in a dysfunctional family.
• 1:13:58
  I mean, whatever you can associate, you can literally, uh,
• 1:14:02
  what's the word. It's the mk ulter programming stuff. It's all the stuff
• 1:14:06
  that the enemy uses an mk ultra. You can create an alter no you
• 1:14:13
  can. And this is between you and me. We're not recording, right,
• 1:14:16
  this isn't live right, it's not live, but I am recording.
• 1:14:20
  I'm just kidding. No, you can. You can share this. Nobody
• 1:14:26
  else talks about this, but I believe that you can have heavenly altars.
• 1:14:30
  And sometimes I'll wake up from a dream where I had a life that is
• 1:14:33
  not my own, but it is my own. And you are doing things
• 1:14:36
  in the spirit and the good dreams, I mean really good dreams, but
• 1:14:41
  and visions and prophecies, and like I wish I was somewhere else doing that.
• 1:14:45
  Well, you can be somewhere else doing that. But you have to
• 1:14:47
  be willing to be broken and shattered. And if you want scriptures for that,
• 1:14:51
  I'll tell you, like Jesus Christ was broken for our transgressions. He
• 1:14:57
  was shattered at the cross, being not just tortured, but he was forsaken
• 1:15:02
  by the Father. There's no greater pain than what Jesus Christ endure for us
• 1:15:08
  the cross. We are crucified with Christ Galatians two twenty. Nevertheless, we
• 1:15:15
  live, so if you enter into the cross of Christ, you are also
• 1:15:19
  able to be shattered with him and to be locating in different places and doing
• 1:15:26
  different things at the same time. That's my faith. I'm not saying you
• 1:15:30
  guys have to believe that. I believe in it. I've had fruit from
• 1:15:33
  it. I'm still exploring it. That's really weird, bizarre stuff. But
• 1:15:38
  at the same time, it's not because you know what the Illuminati is doing
• 1:15:41
  this. You know the Satanic people, they use torture on kids. We
• 1:15:45
  don't have to torture kids. Wow, good news. Jesus Christ was tortured
• 1:15:49
  for us so that we can enter through the Cross. My friend calls it
• 1:15:56
  the gull Gotha protocol. It's at the core of one of his drives,
• 1:16:00
  of one of his spirit craft. Is like I just entered through the power
• 1:16:03
  of the Cross, and the ship is is directed by it. Well,
• 1:16:06
  the Bible has ships too. Wherever the spirit move moved, those wheels moved.
• 1:16:14
  And the throne of God likewise is a mobile throne. It's pretty cool.
• 1:16:17
  So the Cross is kind of like the flux capacitor sort of, Yes,
• 1:16:25
  dude, what shape was the fux the flux capacitor? Was that a
• 1:16:30
  y shape? Like it was like it was like a y like a y
• 1:16:34
  yet like had a three lines radiating out from the center. Yeah, if
• 1:16:41
  I remember correctly. Wow, Okay, and interesting, imagine if that was
• 1:16:49
  the cross, you know, and that's the energy and we can time travel
• 1:16:56
  and we don't change history necessarily, but I believe that we do time travel
• 1:17:00
  to heal maybe ancestral curses. I've had a lot of dreams with my my
• 1:17:06
  new mother in law that is absolutely a spirit traveler. She has more time
• 1:17:13
  to do it too, because she's retired and doesn't have her kids bothering her
• 1:17:15
  all the time. And I've had dreams where she'll give me the keys to
• 1:17:19
  certain stuff and then we'll be in courtrooms dealing with like like crimes from people
• 1:17:25
  from the Old West and stuff. And then like there's weird, cool things
• 1:17:31
  that you can do with time travel in the spirit of God. And I'm
• 1:17:33
  not trying to make this sound like, oh, I'm so spiritual. I'm
• 1:17:36
  just telling you dreams that I've had, Okay, And then you let your
• 1:17:40
  dreams bleed into your prayer life. Like I had a dream last night.
• 1:17:45
  I don't have time to get into the whole detail, but I'm just like,
• 1:17:46
  God, what was that? And he just starts explaining it. He's
• 1:17:49
  like, oh, yeah, well this is that, and this, this,
• 1:17:51
  this, and it's like, oh my gosh, thank you Lord.
• 1:17:54
  So one thing you need to do is pray. After you have a dream,
• 1:17:58
  pray and ask the Lord to show you give you a little bit more
• 1:18:00
  insight on your dreams so that you're not just like trusting your dreams, because
• 1:18:05
  those can also be sometimes they can be demonic, you know, I'm sure
• 1:18:10
  you know, you know, you've probably what do you think those those labyrinth
• 1:18:13
  dreams are? Though? That's very interesting, Like why do you think you
• 1:18:15
  would have those kind of dreams? Well? I used to think it was
• 1:18:20
  because there was something in my life I was trying to escape, like whether
• 1:18:25
  it was trying to I was trying to escape, you know, my responsibilities
• 1:18:29
  or something. But as I look at it now, I think it's like
• 1:18:35
  I'm I've I'm frequently in the mind state where I'm like puzzle solving, and
• 1:18:45
  my dreams always are sort of these elaborate escape routes and stuff. It always
• 1:18:51
  seems like I'm running from something. So I don't know that's something I should
• 1:19:00
  ask God, like what does this mean? Why is this theme always popping
• 1:19:03
  up in my dreams? I need some more clarity on this. Yeah,
• 1:19:12
  that's I mean, that's what I get from it. I used to have
• 1:19:19
  like a lot of prison labyrinth dreams when I was in college and working and
• 1:19:26
  when I was still in the system. So I mean, I feel like
• 1:19:29
  there's there is a labyrinth, there is a matrix that we're trying to break
• 1:19:33
  free from. And then when I got into missionary work and really broke free
• 1:19:39
  and had that lovely experience of community and Christian communities and just living free and
• 1:19:45
  having like Thor's hammer, like you just raise it to the sky and you
• 1:19:49
  can go anywhere and just boom. You're in China, you're in Taiwan,
• 1:19:53
  you're in India, anywhere, and you have people there that you know,
• 1:19:55
  and it was I never had a dream like that. Again. They became
• 1:20:00
  very different kind of problem solving, like dealing with more logistical things with our
• 1:20:08
  mission work and stuff, But it wasn't that feeling of like, oh,
• 1:20:11
  I'm I'm trapped in a prison. But now I have them sometimes again,
• 1:20:16
  because I guess America is a prison. We are living in this labyrinth of
• 1:20:20
  lies and upside down world in many ways. But anyway, I mean,
• 1:20:28
  just the kingdom is open to us, guys, it's an open heaven.
• 1:20:30
  It's like God is just waiting for us to engage. And I'm a little
• 1:20:35
  bit annoyed with a lot of my mystic Christian friends who they're so addicted to
• 1:20:41
  the Kingdom that they just literally close their eyes to all the negative things that
• 1:20:45
  are happening and they don't want to know anything about it. So one of
• 1:20:47
  the best people you can listen to, who died three years ago, Neville
• 1:20:53
  Johnson, is one of the best. Like he sees both sides, like
• 1:20:57
  he'll read you the whole Bible, and he doesn't ever stray from the Bible.
• 1:21:02
  But he has the most unbelievable angelic encounters, and he's a broken man
• 1:21:08
  who lost his daughter at one point, and just really he's very controversial,
• 1:21:14
  but he really walks in the spirit of rest and of peace. And the
• 1:21:19
  people that I work with and various things like Paulaman, Gucci and Tony Floyd.
• 1:21:26
  Prayer for Tony his family's going through a huge mess. Alex Sadami,
• 1:21:31
  who I met in Vegas recently. I've done a bunch of shows with him.
• 1:21:35
  They are all they all swear by Neville Johnson. I mean, they
• 1:21:41
  all like Hey, you want to go mystic, you want to go heaven,
• 1:21:44
  you better start listening to Nevill Johnson's sermons I've taken. I'm not getting
• 1:21:47
  money or anything from this. I might get in trouble for this. Actually,
• 1:21:50
  I've taken all the YouTube videos of Neville that I can find, and
• 1:21:54
  I posted them to a podcast feed, so you can just download them and
• 1:21:57
  listen to them wherever you want. Neville Johnson podcast. So, but it's
• 1:22:04
  not stinctioned, please go to Academy of Light dot org, by the books,
• 1:22:09
  by the CDs. You know, I'm not trying to take away from
• 1:22:13
  that. Ministry Mark Johnson too, he's seen visions of like in the future,
• 1:22:16
  we're gonna be on spaceships fighting with like lightsabers against alien demons and things.
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  So his son, Mark Johnson is pretty cool. All right, Well,
• 1:22:26
  let's take a little break and we'll be right back with some more.
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  Michael Basham, you've been listening to Ministry X on Fringe Radio Network. That
• 1:23:28
  the the the the thet h But anyway, Yeah, I don't know how
• 1:24:13
  long we we went. There's a lot more everything we talked about. I
• 1:24:16
  feel like it's just the tip of the iceberg. Dude, like I always
• 1:24:19
  have that when I talked to you, like we're just scratching the surface.
• 1:24:26
  Yeah, I did want to ask you. I did want to ask you
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  if you have a little bit more time about like specific maybe if you want
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  to if you want to pick out a specific spirit helper that you've encountered,
• 1:24:41
  something that you've had multiple experiences with. I remember you talking about like the
• 1:24:45
  Spirit of Wisdom. I remember you talking about a certain you know, Chinese
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  or Japanese spirit that when you were in Asia you had a profound experience with.
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  If you want to focus on something that was, you know, maybe
• 1:25:00
  transformational in your life, yeah, man, okay, Oh well there was
• 1:25:13
  a time where all the fringe people were talking about Enoch for a while and
• 1:25:18
  everything was Enoch as Enoch that. And at that time I was single,
• 1:25:25
  and I was really just able to devote large portions of time to the spirit
• 1:25:31
  and wanting to delve in and explore more. And you know, I had
• 1:25:36
  angels for this and that, and I mean I was like, you can
• 1:25:40
  just mean, you can get an angel for everything. You can get angels
• 1:25:45
  for literally everything. But I really wanted to get to know Enoch and I
• 1:25:49
  started to tap in and just ask God and just frankly just to talk to
• 1:25:58
  him and develop a walk with Enoch at a very specific time in my life
• 1:26:01
  where it was almost like a kid wanting to find out what is his dad
• 1:26:09
  doing? What are you doing? Like, where are you doing that?
• 1:26:11
  Where is that? Where does this going? Oh? What's that thing?
• 1:26:14
  And almost to the point where I felt like I would be annoying And Enoch
• 1:26:19
  was so fun to be around. It was almost impossible that there could be
• 1:26:27
  a being with that much joy and that much youth and that much vitality,
• 1:26:30
  that much curiosity and just long story short, it was it was a period
• 1:26:34
  of time where trying to get to the bottom of like what Asia was and
• 1:26:42
  asking for more wisdom about how to deal with the Taiwanese people and this and
• 1:26:47
  that, and it was like, all right, Enoch the father of Asia,
• 1:26:51
  the father of Asian culture, Chinese culture is specific specifically, but like
• 1:27:00
  he hasn't stopped, like he's still going out there into all space and time.
• 1:27:04
  And this is before I ever saw the show Doctor Who. I don't
• 1:27:09
  know if you've ever seen Doctor Who, but it was literally Doctor Who was
• 1:27:13
  like Enoch. And I saw the show years later, and I'm like,
• 1:27:15
  oh my gosh, these are like all my Enoch prophecies. They're so random
• 1:27:18
  and weird and cool and fun and you're just going on these adventures and he's
• 1:27:24
  just always like, way ahead of you, but so innocent and funny at
• 1:27:29
  the same time. And Enoch was probably the most unforgettable stret being. And
• 1:27:38
  it wasn't like, oh, I've got Enoch in my back and call I
• 1:27:41
  can talk to you when I want. There was the desire mutually. It
• 1:27:43
  was like he was also prophesying into my life and telling me like, Okay,
• 1:27:47
  Michael, you've got some big storm clouds coming ahead of you, literally
• 1:27:51
  weeks before everything was about to go to hell. In so many ways,
• 1:27:56
  he would tell me this, and I would be I would just be like
• 1:27:59
  journaling in a Starbucks somewhere. It wasn't automatic writing. It was just I'm
• 1:28:02
  reading the Bible, I'm reading the Proverbs, and I kind of pictured where
• 1:28:09
  he spends his time and would go there and talk to his He has servants,
• 1:28:15
  he has like throne room, or he has like trophy rooms of relics
• 1:28:20
  that look brand new although you know they're really old. And you find out
• 1:28:26
  that he's he's time travel savvy, like he's he's going around everywhere like he
• 1:28:30
  left before the flood, like he has access to all places, just like
• 1:28:34
  God in many ways, And and he's so humble and so approachable. I
• 1:28:41
  would say Enoch is like my favorite of all the saints. And we have
• 1:28:45
  literally like almost no information about him. Well, but a lot of the
• 1:28:49
  mystics like to say they know all about him or whatever. I just I'm
• 1:28:51
  just saying that's one of the people that I've I feel like I really built
• 1:28:56
  a connection with back in the day. That's awesome. And if anyone's going
• 1:29:00
  to, you know, educate you about the spirit world, it would be
• 1:29:04
  Enoch, you know, because Enoch was basically taken on a tour by the
• 1:29:11
  angel Uriel. You know, if you read first Enoch and and We was
• 1:29:16
  shown like, these are the angels that worship God day and night, and
• 1:29:19
  these are the angels that are in prison, you know, until the end,
• 1:29:23
  and these are the these are the creatures that you find, these are
• 1:29:26
  the ones that are responsible for this and lays it all out for him.
• 1:29:31
  And I think Enoch probably at the time had the same sort of feeling that
• 1:29:35
  you did, like Wow, what's this do? What's this here for?
• 1:29:40
  Why is there a separation between this part of Tartarus and this part of Hades?
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  And uh yeah, I imagine he had the same experience being you know,
• 1:29:51
  shown around by you know, one of the arch angels. And Enoch
• 1:30:00
  is also kind of that he's the forerunner for spirit travel, because you know,
• 1:30:04
  the legend says the Book of en I don't take the Book of Enoch
• 1:30:08
  as canon scripture, but it does say like, okay, well he would
• 1:30:11
  spend one day a year and in the spirit. So how many days have
• 1:30:15
  you spent in this year in the spirit. I don't know, maybe not
• 1:30:18
  that many days, but hey, well he started out with one day a
• 1:30:21
  year, you know, and then he started doing two days a year,
• 1:30:27
  or like one day a month. I think it went it was one day
• 1:30:29
  year, and then it was one day a month. It's like, man,
• 1:30:31
  this is too good. I got to spend a whole day a month
• 1:30:33
  with Jesus and with God. And probably he was being shown the mystery of
• 1:30:39
  Jesus too, which not termining people knew about. And then it was like,
• 1:30:43
  well, who's this Jesus? And he was giving all this time.
• 1:30:45
  Then he would go one day a week, and then it was two days
• 1:30:48
  a week. Pretty soon it was six days a week. Pretty soon it
• 1:30:53
  was twenty nine days a month, and then it was three hundred and sixty
• 1:30:57
  four days a year. And legend says that when Enoch would come out of
• 1:31:03
  that secret place in the most High, the kings of the earth were waiting
• 1:31:10
  at that doorfront, that cave front to receive direction. The angels of God
• 1:31:17
  were coming to Enoch for help, you know, the fallen angels. Yeah,
• 1:31:23
  please ask God to forgive us. You know, God is mad,
• 1:31:26
  He's like no, but yeah, God, what was that? Yeah?
• 1:31:30
  God likes you. You go talk to him, Like, why can't we
• 1:31:35
  do that? Well, oh well I'm not close to God enough. Well
• 1:31:39
  why aren't you close to God? Why don't you spend more time with him?
• 1:31:43
  Well I'm busy. Well can you spend maybe one day a year with
• 1:31:45
  God? Because that's where Enoch started. I'm sure he was a normal guy,
• 1:31:50
  like Heaven is open, and we're the ones that are all. We're
• 1:31:55
  the ones that are like, well, my life is too important and I
• 1:31:57
  don't have telling for God. And you know, I'll go to church or
• 1:32:00
  we'll listen to podcasts and and my beef is that our podcast a lot of
• 1:32:04
  them are like more Nephlin plus Tomorrow's Day, Dune for more Neflin again,
• 1:32:14
  flim Giants, Nefflin vampires. Baby, you got Flin, You're bos we
• 1:32:18
  got Neflin. You name it demons for you, you know. And I'm
• 1:32:24
  like, gosh, like, why can't we talk about heaven just a little
• 1:32:29
  bit. No, We're talk about Neflin. God Game a year agoing So
• 1:32:34
  because nobody talks about Enoch, I wrote, I wrote a dang novel about
• 1:32:42
  Enoch. I was so afraid to publish any of those prophecies of the time
• 1:32:45
  that God showed me like, just write a novel, just have fun with
• 1:32:48
  this, And so I did. And it's it's not well written. It
• 1:32:53
  needs to be edited severely, but man like, when I was writing the
• 1:32:57
  novel, I felt like I was getting more revelation about him. Then when
• 1:33:00
  I would sit down in meditation and be all like, okay, why you
• 1:33:04
  know prophesiing wrong or seeing the wrong thing, Like, there's there's stuff out
• 1:33:12
  there and it's random a lot of it. It feels maybe you're tripping out.
• 1:33:16
  But look, if you ever watched Doctor Who and I believe doctor who
• 1:33:20
  is the Luciferian version of Enoch. That's a Satanic version because he lies a
• 1:33:26
  lot. If you watch the show and he has his tardists, Tartarous you
• 1:33:30
  just said, Tartarus, I'm like, oh my gosh, it's like stealing
• 1:33:36
  the the creative beauties of heaven and problem solving that I believe when we go
• 1:33:44
  into dream world we are all kind of like Enoch, like we get to
• 1:33:46
  go and help solve problems and deal with things and who knows, child trafficking.
• 1:33:54
  I think a lot of the QAnon stuff it kind of hijacked what we
• 1:33:57
  really do in the spiritual warfare, travel about underground bases and you know,
• 1:34:04
  I think we actually do deal with reptilian stuff and gray aliens and marine kingdoms
• 1:34:10
  and evil fairies and but there's also good stuff. So I'm really thankful dude,
• 1:34:15
  that you're excited about, you know, the good aspect of what heaven
• 1:34:19
  has to offer. And I mean, it's it's kind of waking me up
• 1:34:24
  out of my slumber too, because I am just like everybody else, like
• 1:34:27
  I'll just get busy and I'll be like, what's what's new, And I'll
• 1:34:30
  listen to you know, whatever's the new podcast about vampire Nephelin, Bloodsucker Demon,
• 1:34:36
  you know, marine spirits. Yeah, well, I'm kind of getting
• 1:34:41
  to the point where it's like, Okay, we spend so much time trying
• 1:34:45
  to figure out, you know, what's the enemy's next move. You know,
• 1:34:48
  how do we identify you know, the enemy blueprint, the enemy kingdom,
• 1:34:55
  like how this is laid out, you know what you know, the
• 1:34:58
  what their strategy. But it's like, okay, well, you've got some
• 1:35:01
  good ideas about what that's going to look like if you want to go over
• 1:35:04
  the you know, the end time, you know timeline. We have a
• 1:35:09
  good idea. We may not have it all nailed down perfectly, but then
• 1:35:13
  you know, assuming we figure all that out about the enemy, then what
• 1:35:15
  what do you you know, what are you going to do to combat it?
• 1:35:18
  What are you going to do to resist it? What are you going
• 1:35:21
  to do in opposition to it? And I don't think we talk enough about
• 1:35:27
  that that aspect of spiritual warfare, And like, like you said, I'm
• 1:35:31
  I'm guilty of the same thing. Well, one thing we can do is
• 1:35:38
  maybe listen to some more Bible audios, just pure Bible, like just get
• 1:35:43
  really really acquainted with your Bible, not Bible studies from your church pastor or
• 1:35:49
  not, but just you and God and the Bible. Read it, reread
• 1:35:54
  it. Get to the place where you're confident about the Bible, because before
• 1:35:58
  we blast off in this space stuff, you need to have that training of
• 1:36:03
  you know what the Bible says before you start to encounter these different things,
• 1:36:08
  so that you know, when you see something that's weird, you can still
• 1:36:14
  go and ask God for a confirmational scripture and He will always give you one.
• 1:36:17
  Then we can also subscribe to stuff that isn't necessarily like blasting on all
• 1:36:24
  the airwaves all day like Info Wars. Although I love Info Wars, it's
• 1:36:29
  it's the quality, it's the it's the tempered you know, like highlander like,
• 1:36:35
  well, I got this sword from Priceshmoka and half of here to ma
• 1:36:43
  Aarage two hundred times over, just smashed and reforge sword from years ago,
• 1:36:53
  and the highlanders like I thought you were from Spain. Yeah, I'm Spanish.
• 1:36:58
  He's gotta Irish acts. Scott has acted. But I mean that that
• 1:37:02
  tempered sword, the ancient I mean that took time. The Japanese took a
• 1:37:06
  lot of time, these these saints that I'm talking about, Neville Johnson.
• 1:37:13
  I appreciate Ian Clayton's teachings in many ways. I appreciate some of the mo
• 1:37:15
  letters that are you know that have an age too, well, some of
• 1:37:18
  them are really good. I appreciate Rick Joyner and broken vessels, broken bread,
• 1:37:26
  but they're not they're not being fed to you by your feed, by
• 1:37:30
  your aiphone. You have to actually go and search for these treasures because the
• 1:37:33
  Kingdom of God is like a hidden treasure. And when somebody told me about
• 1:37:38
  one of these guys, well I went, I sold all that I had,
• 1:37:42
  and I went and bought it multiple times. So I'm just here to
• 1:37:45
  tell you that, you know, I might sound crazy, and I do
• 1:37:49
  sound crazy even to me, but this stuff, it does hold water,
• 1:37:55
  it does work, and we need more, you know, spiritual warriors,
• 1:38:03
  Jedi or there's a word that is more biblical than that. But we need
• 1:38:10
  more people that are willing to go and fight and be the go through the
• 1:38:15
  school of hard knocks and like this this Asprey of Revival. I'll bet you
• 1:38:19
  we're going to get a lot of new warriors out of there. But it
• 1:38:21
  might not be millions, it might just be hundreds. And they're always few.
• 1:38:27
  The Jedi are always few, that the disciples are always few. But
• 1:38:30
  I'm looking for those kind of people. So you know, I mean,
• 1:38:33
  I think you're one. You understand you're picking up what I'm putting down,
• 1:38:36
  Brada, You're thinking about this stuff, and how can we I mean,
• 1:38:41
  we need need a brainstorm about this, like how do we happen to this
• 1:38:45
  practically? Well, for me, it someone who was really instrumental, you
• 1:38:50
  know, talking about you know, not just settling for what's in your feed,
• 1:38:57
  but going out and seeking wisdom was Derek Prince and finding his sermons and
• 1:39:03
  his teachings. I would just go to the Derek Prince Ministry's website and every
• 1:39:11
  YouTube video that was there, you know, would convert convert it into audio
• 1:39:15
  and just listen to that while I'm at work. And basically he laid out
• 1:39:20
  all the basics of spiritual warfare. You've got God's kingdom, you've got the
• 1:39:26
  enemy's kingdom, You've got this hierarchy. This is how it works. This
• 1:39:30
  is you know, the different things that can become attached to you, and
• 1:39:33
  this is how you deal with it. Just very matter of fact, I
• 1:39:38
  was like, wow, this is incredible, like, and as I'm listening
• 1:39:44
  when I was first exposed to Derek Prince, I'm at work listening to Derek
• 1:39:47
  Prince teachings on spiritual warfare or demon possession or something like that, and literally
• 1:39:56
  simultaneously, my wife at the time, my former wife, was at home
• 1:40:02
  being tormented in her dreams because I'm at work listening to Derek Prince and I'm
• 1:40:09
  having this epiphany. I'm having this awakening to this spiritual realm reality that he's
• 1:40:16
  laying down the enemy's going after my wife in her dream. But Derek Prince
• 1:40:24
  was very foundational, like gave me a very solid like understanding of the spirit
• 1:40:29
  world, and not in a sensational way, but just a very matter of
• 1:40:34
  fact. Oh yes, I was in South Africa and this happened and demon
• 1:40:41
  manifested right in front of our eyes. And this is incredible, incredible stuff.
• 1:40:47
  And if you have set your mind on obtaining wisdom, then God's not
• 1:40:58
  going to ignore that. I think God delights when you seek him, when
• 1:41:04
  you seek more understanding, when you seek wisdom. Wisdom's different than knowledge.
• 1:41:10
  Knowledge is information you can do lots of things with, but wisdom is like,
• 1:41:15
  you know, taking that knowledge, doing the right thing with it,
• 1:41:19
  you know, aligning yourself with God's will. That's wisdom. That's what bears
• 1:41:28
  fruit. Uh So that was a whole just spiritual education process for me.
• 1:41:34
  And then I found out later, like Derek about your grandfather. Yeah,
• 1:41:44
  yeah, was that Derek Prince fiftieth anniversary not even a year ago in Charlotte.
• 1:41:51
  A lot of Basham's work for that ministry today and guess who those Guess
• 1:41:57
  who My uncle who runs Derek Prince Ministries. He's grooming I hate that word,
• 1:42:01
  but whatever, prepping. He's prepping people to take the ministry forward.
• 1:42:08
  And we went to a Mexican restaurant and I'm getting to meet these guys,
• 1:42:14
  the new Dak Prince Ministry faculty people, and they're interested in Michael Heiser.
• 1:42:20
  They're like just discovering Michael Heiser stuff, and oh, you know, I'm
• 1:42:24
  really interested in the Book of Enoch. The ministry itself is all about foundational
• 1:42:29
  Christianity. Derek Prince teachings are very foundational and very necessary, but the people
• 1:42:33
  running it are listening to the unseen realms and they're telling me about it,
• 1:42:39
  like, have you ever heard of this. I'm like, brah, dude,
• 1:42:42
  hey, you don't even know. Like, though we're still going,
• 1:42:46
  I feel like we're doing a complete circle here, like the Kingdom of God
• 1:42:50
  really is one body. And so you know, And again I commend you,
• 1:42:57
  Daniel for carrying the Fringe Radio network. You are the single at list
• 1:43:01
  shrugs. Please don't shrug. At least tell me if you do need to,
• 1:43:04
  and I'll get up there. And but you are carrying this thing on
• 1:43:09
  your shoulders and I appreciate that so much, and we will be expanding.
• 1:43:15
  You'll be seeing that. I think everybody you should definitely subscribe and share the
• 1:43:23
  feed. And also apparently you have your own feed and your own Spreaker podcast
• 1:43:29
  on Spotify, I guess and iTunes and everything and leave ministry as a good
• 1:43:32
  way you did you put it on all the things. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:43:39
  do that. And Johnny's got some interesting things in the works and he's doing
• 1:43:44
  a lot of the behind the scenes stuff too, getting new shows on the
• 1:43:46
  network. It was there was a great moment and it was the the Philo
• 1:43:53
  Sophia podcast, which is new on Fringe and the one there's two co hosts
• 1:44:00
  and the one guy Trevor h just on the podcast found out about Genesis six
• 1:44:08
  and it was his first time, you know, hearing about you know,
• 1:44:12
  the Nephelim and and it was incredible to hear someone just discover that for the
• 1:44:15
  first time. And I think the Fringe Network, Fringe Radio Network is good
• 1:44:21
  because we're we're sucking in a lot of people. That sounds kind of bad,
• 1:44:28
  but like a black hole now, I think we attract a lot of
• 1:44:33
  people and and they keep landing on Genesis six and then they can kind of
• 1:44:43
  get sucked further down the funnel till we get to like, you know,
• 1:44:46
  the gospel, and then then we get to like the real meaty, interesting
• 1:44:50
  stuff like you know what we're talking about, you know, going into the
• 1:44:56
  spirit realm. And uh so you've got a strata of people at different places
• 1:45:02
  in their spiritual walk, all on the same network. And I think that's
• 1:45:08
  really a strength of the network. And it was instrumental for me to just
• 1:45:13
  have that support system of just all these different podcasts to listen to and consider.
• 1:45:18
  So I want that to be available to everybody out there, because when
• 1:45:23
  I found Fringe Radio Network, it was a blessing, you know to me
• 1:45:27
  for sure, just to know there's other people out there that like are interested
• 1:45:32
  in these like weird passages in the Bible, and I'm like, not the
• 1:45:38
  only person that has these weird dreams and stuff. Daniel, Yeah, how
• 1:45:45
  how did you first find out about the network? What was thet that you
• 1:45:51
  got on here? So I think it went something like this. I had
• 1:45:59
  been exposed those to Alex Jones, you know, somewhere in two thousand and
• 1:46:04
  eight, two thousand and seven or something, and I started listening to him.
• 1:46:11
  Actually, my wife at the time listened to Alex Jones all the time,
• 1:46:14
  and she would talk about him and I would just kind of glance over
• 1:46:16
  him, like, oh, yeah, I've heard about him that he's crazy,
• 1:46:19
  like you know, blows his top on the air and talks about conspiracies.
• 1:46:24
  And I was listening to the show and he had interviewed Steve Quayle.
• 1:46:31
  Steve quail was on Alex Jones show, and he was talking about aliens and
• 1:46:36
  Nephelim and stuff like that, and I'm like it just grabbed my ear and
• 1:46:41
  I was like, what wait, what you know? And so then I
• 1:46:45
  went looking for Steve Quayle stuff interviews and doing my searching I came across the
• 1:46:55
  Hagman and Hagman show, you know, and Steve's a regular guest on that
• 1:47:00
  show. I started listening to Hagman. Then I heard La mar Zuli,
• 1:47:05
  and somewhere around that time period, you know, I came across Fringe Radio
• 1:47:11
  Network, and then I listened to Iron Show, and then I heard you
• 1:47:19
  pop up, I think in twenty sixteen, started listening to your show,
• 1:47:26
  and yeah, so many great shows to listen to. And because of the
• 1:47:35
  type of work that I do during the day, you know, I can,
• 1:47:40
  you know, mindlessly labor away and I've just got my earbuds in listening
• 1:47:44
  to podcasts for you know, seven or eight hours and just absorbing all this
• 1:47:48
  information, just like sucking it all in and then coming to the conclusion like,
• 1:47:54
  hey, I need to like I need to have like an outlet.
• 1:47:57
  I'm I'm I. All this information is stuff is like blowing my mind.
• 1:48:02
  And so my podcast is just about kind of talking through that out loud,
• 1:48:06
  like it's it's my podcast is me sorting through all this stuff so that other
• 1:48:12
  people who are on a similar path, you know, can can do it
• 1:48:17
  along with me. And it's a fellowship thing. And I is Your podcast
• 1:48:25
  is absolutely brilliant, dude. I got to cut you off right there,
• 1:48:28
  and just you know, I'm sorry, I'm going to cut you off right
• 1:48:30
  there because it's absolutely brilliant. You're train of thought and your humor and you
• 1:48:38
  go on if you go on a tangent, you have like a button.
• 1:48:41
  It's like focus Tegno from Karate Kid. That's so funny. And no,
• 1:48:45
  it's not a button. He's like right here next to show. Oh right,
• 1:48:53
  he's your spirit helper. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, and your music
• 1:48:59
  is really cool too, man. I mean, I can't wait till thanks
• 1:49:02
  a lot more you your tracks, because you actually make your own music,
• 1:49:06
  unlike some people do. No, that is awesome. So we have a
• 1:49:13
  similar journey because I listened to Alex Jones that I found out about Steve Quayle
• 1:49:17
  in two thousand and eight, the same year two thousand and nine, and
• 1:49:21
  then I found him on Omega Man and I was listening to him through that,
• 1:49:27
  and then Omega Man recently we got to start doing shows with him.
• 1:49:31
  So it's kind of interesting how things all are circling back around. I hope
• 1:49:38
  you keep doing shows, dude. I know you're busy. And I have
• 1:49:41
  occasional jobs. I can just listen to podcasts all day and it's a nice
• 1:49:45
  day, you know, usually it's me with babies. And but it's so
• 1:49:53
  good that we have this technology and however long it lasts, and we should
• 1:49:58
  be downloading stuff and saving them to our archives. And I want that archive
• 1:50:01
  of Derek Prince MP three's if you have it, I want three archive.
• 1:50:06
  It's somewhere on a little USB drive or something. And yeah, oh man,
• 1:50:13
  because you know the Ministry, they are up to their eyeballs and projects
• 1:50:17
  like my aunt is helping transcribe books from audios. I don't know if they
• 1:50:23
  have anybody even like saving everything to MP three. So it's yeah, I
• 1:50:28
  was going and grabbing the YouTube videos and then I was just converting the audio.
• 1:50:32
  I was just ripping the audio off the YouTube videos and saving it as
• 1:50:35
  an MP three. Well, Derek Prince, Ministries needs to pay you,
• 1:50:43
  as does the French radio network for your hard work. And uh, it's
• 1:50:48
  a labor of love and we're you know, we're if you guys are listening.
• 1:50:53
  This is a missionary operation. This is something that will the whole hope
• 1:50:58
  of this has been to save souls. And I believe that Asbury Revival in
• 1:51:03
  many ways is due to the efforts of ministries like Derek Prince Ministries and French
• 1:51:11
  Radio Network aka Daniel X tirelessly and sometimes thanklessly doing what he does. Yeah,
• 1:51:21
  and I wouldn't be able to do it if it wasn't out of just
• 1:51:25
  the love for doing it and the desire for you know, wanting the network
• 1:51:30
  to reach more people. That's the motivation. You know. If if I
• 1:51:35
  get a little money out of it, or I get a nice mixer from
• 1:51:39
  Johnny McMahon out of it, then that's that's all I really need. Just
• 1:51:45
  knowing that people are out there and they're being exposed to you know, Spirit
• 1:51:47
  Wars, Ministry acts, let's get jacked up all these other shows, then
• 1:51:56
  that's you know, all the satisfaction that I need out of it. But
• 1:52:01
  uh, yeah, I mean we probably need to just Yeah, I've always
• 1:52:05
  had that feeling like we got to archive some of this stuff, and we
• 1:52:10
  got to put it on you know, CDRs, and we got to seal
• 1:52:13
  it up and bury it underground with a with a CD player in case you
• 1:52:16
  know, there's no CD players in the future, you know, and a
• 1:52:19
  power converter to make sure you can run it off a solar panel so that
• 1:52:24
  this knowledge just doesn't get lost, you know, and you know, the
• 1:52:28
  New World Order finally you know, clamps down or whatever. But it's such
• 1:52:31
  a it's such an overwhelming task. Like if I can manage to get you
• 1:52:36
  know, my podcast out and just get people thinking, you know, and
• 1:52:41
  and doing their little part, then you know, I call that a you
• 1:52:47
  know, a small success. Well, this is how I look at my
• 1:52:53
  house. It's it's a disaster with babies running around with dirty diapers and exhausted
• 1:52:59
  parents and constant visitors and people and exhausted parents because we work day and night.
• 1:53:05
  I'm working literally right now, I'm on the clock, so i'll probably
• 1:53:10
  like sign out. So it's not dishonest to be doing a podcast while working
• 1:53:15
  in I mean, I'm trying not to make noise obviously for the AO audio
• 1:53:21
  quality of our talk. But seriously, like as Steve Guile would stay Guard,
• 1:53:28
  I worry going, oh my gosh, that dog. It'said we're going
• 1:53:35
  into World War three because we are. And all of our little jobs,
• 1:53:40
  all of our little things, they're fine. But if you just do the
• 1:53:45
  minimum, like pick up one article of clothing off of the floor and put
• 1:53:51
  it where it belongs. Take one dish from the sink and put it where
• 1:53:57
  it goes, dishwasher empty, one dish at a time, one podcast at
• 1:54:01
  a time. If the audience would just download one podcast that spoke to them
• 1:54:08
  and keep it on a thumb drive, and yeah, share it too.
• 1:54:12
  But sharing, that's that's not all. Like have have things in store for
• 1:54:18
  you for a dark day ahead, Like you would save money for a day
• 1:54:21
  when you don't have money to pay the rent on a rainy day. Save
• 1:54:27
  up your prophecies, scriptures, prayer journals, podcasts, Yes, and buy
• 1:54:34
  a USB. Put that USB somewhere where you might forget about it, but
• 1:54:39
  you can find it in an emergency and just be like, Okay, this
• 1:54:41
  is a faith I have all these stem packs of faith building things. When
• 1:54:46
  I'm in a dark time in my life, I'll put those in. I'll
• 1:54:49
  listen to that. I have spiritual stimpacks. I've got to revive that my
• 1:54:55
  YouTube channel got deleted. But like, we aren't a war, it's all
• 1:55:00
  about keeping your faith first. You put your life preserver on. Then you
• 1:55:05
  can share with others the mystic stuff. That's I believe we can do that.
• 1:55:12
  That's part of your well balanced diet of being a Christian. We are
• 1:55:15
  all doing it. It's just one of those things that most Christian churches are
• 1:55:19
  so afraid of and they've beat it down to and even in many ways our
• 1:55:24
  fringe Christian friends they're also afraid of it, a lot of our mutual friends.
• 1:55:29
  So I'm really happy that you're interested in it. And I believe this
• 1:55:33
  is like talking about nuclear technology. There's a danger to it. The Jason
• 1:55:40
  Westerfield prototype, the failure of Bethel to try to get into this stuff,
• 1:55:45
  and they created this guy called Jason Westerfield, and he went way off the
• 1:55:49
  Westfield into like alien world and he basically is an apostate as far as I
• 1:55:56
  know. Yeah, but the way it was handled was terrible, so I
• 1:56:01
  don't want to I don't want to repeat that. So I'm very cautious in
• 1:56:05
  how I present this information. So my podcast is not about fluffy, mystic
• 1:56:11
  old revelations all day. I try to say very well what I can prove,
• 1:56:16
  what we all agree about, and then maybe touch on certain things.
• 1:56:20
  But if it were up to me, we would all be spirit traveling all
• 1:56:24
  the time, you know, Tony Floyd's style. And by the way,
• 1:56:29
  the owner of the Fringe Radio Network is a big fan of Spirit Warring,
• 1:56:33
  not necessarily just my show. I mean, he's very I think he puts
• 1:56:38
  up with me a lot of the time. But Johnny McMahon, what I
• 1:56:42
  asked him three or four years ago while I was riding my bike up a
• 1:56:45
  hill in Honolulu about what do you think is the future of the fringe Christian
• 1:56:51
  movement? Because everything's coming true? And he told me right away, he
• 1:56:55
  said, I believe that the kind of stuff that you hear Tony Floyd talk
• 1:56:59
  about spirit traveling, spirit wars is the future. That this is the next
• 1:57:05
  fringe Christian topic. When we see Nephelim running the street, roaming the streets,
• 1:57:11
  we see UFOs in the air, we see all this crap and it's
• 1:57:14
  all come true. And the DNA and the vaccine changing the DNA and all
• 1:57:18
  the garbage and the universal credit orders and all the crap. You know,
• 1:57:24
  it's all come true. What's next? What's the fringe? It's spirit travel
• 1:57:30
  It's it's not just mysticism, it's literally getting things done in the spirit with
• 1:57:34
  your angels, connecting to heaven, going to heaven. We need more heaven
• 1:57:41
  travelers have faith that you can go to heaven. Now any time you won
• 1:57:47
  it's an open door. Your father in heaven is waiting for you. He
• 1:57:50
  loves you. He will kill the fattened calf for you right now. Objectively
• 1:57:57
  speaking, I don't think they kill their fattened caps heaven. But you will
• 1:58:00
  put his signet ring on your finger every time you come to him, and
• 1:58:05
  he will say welcome back, and even good and faithful servant and all the
• 1:58:11
  good things, and maybe, oh, you don't need this, you don't
• 1:58:13
  need that. Let's let go of that way. Let's definitely get rid of
• 1:58:15
  that. Now, let's work together, let's do things. And that's how
• 1:58:20
  that's my vision of heaven and working with spirit helpers, because God will,
• 1:58:25
  He will introduce you to his cohorts, to his fellow angels or his underling
• 1:58:31
  angels. Yeah. But and going back to what you said earlier, the
• 1:58:36
  witches and the new agers, they take this seriously. A lot of witch
• 1:58:45
  is pagan's. They'll talk about the Bible and they'll regard it as you know,
• 1:58:49
  hey, the Bible is actually you know, a powerful book of magic.
• 1:58:55
  But they'll say like, well, we think, you know, Jesus
• 1:58:58
  was misunderstood or misinterpret it, and he's really not the son of God.
• 1:59:00
  But yeah, the Bible's full of like magical spells and all this power.
• 1:59:05
  And they don't understand why Christians aren't engaged in their faith the same way that
• 1:59:13
  they are. It's because Christians have fallen victim to this sort of materialistic worldview
• 1:59:21
  where you know, the spirit world well that's just the way the ancients saw
• 1:59:27
  it, and we know better now. I think that tends to dominate.
• 1:59:31
  Oh yeah, well Jesus talked about you know, casting out demons and stuff,
• 1:59:35
  but that was just sort of symbolic. And if we could you know,
• 1:59:41
  break into the spirit realm and and and readjust our worldview and and and
• 1:59:49
  see the world the way the ancients saw it, where you know, these
• 1:59:55
  things walked side by side, you know, the spirit experiences were a part
• 2:00:01
  of everyday life until this sort of modernist, postmodern worldview took over. So
• 2:00:15
  I think, yeah, the future of the fringe is getting more spiritual and
• 2:00:25
  connecting, you know, more often with God, our father. I think
• 2:00:28
  that's what God desires us to achieve. I think that's part of our inheritance.
• 2:00:34
  Also, you know, on the other side of armageddon, so to
• 2:00:39
  speak, that we're going to continue these heavenly missions and stuff for the people
• 2:00:46
  that want it, for the people that ask for it, for the people
• 2:00:50
  who seek it. So yeah, I agree with Johnny there as far as
• 2:01:00
  you know the future of the Fringe, we need to be talking, you
• 2:01:02
  know, more about this sort of thing. My brother in law, Amen,
• 2:01:09
  everything you just said, Amen, And I want to share this.
• 2:01:12
  I know we're running out of time, but my brother in law, Dustin
• 2:01:15
  said something profound today, and pray for him. He's about to go to
• 2:01:19
  Florida with his family. My sister and there are two kids and the dog,
• 2:01:24
  the legendary husky Cody. You could check out their travels road Abode YouTube
• 2:01:30
  channel their legendary I went for a job with Cody. Speaking about that last
• 2:01:34
  job with Cody, you were talking about that, I did go check out
• 2:01:38
  the YouTube channel. I was like, Wow, your sister looks just like
• 2:01:43
  you, Like you've got the same eyes, same eyebrows. Yeah, that
• 2:01:49
  was that was interesting. And then Cody, Yeah, yeah, the husky.
• 2:01:53
  Is this the same husky that attacked one of your goats? Uh yeah,
• 2:01:59
  my my a left pinky knuckle is still broken from removing Cody's jaws from
• 2:02:05
  one of my goats, but it's a lovingly broken knuckle, and I still
• 2:02:12
  love Cody. He's just crazy and a murderous husky. But white goats are
• 2:02:17
  fine, by the way, Yeah they are. But you were talking.
• 2:02:24
  You were talking about your brother in law. Oh yeah, well, yeah
• 2:02:30
  he was. We were talking about the Asbury Revival and they have a really
• 2:02:33
  nice church in Tennessee that they attend and listen to and are connected to via
• 2:02:39
  the internet. Funny thing is like, you move away from my town and
• 2:02:43
  you have a church, you can still be a part of their network through
• 2:02:45
  the internet. It's really weird, Like, oh yeah, I'm still in
• 2:02:47
  a chat with the group and the guys, and I still listen to sermons
• 2:02:50
  every Sunday. It's like, what the heck man, what happened to church?
• 2:02:55
  This reminds me of you network a little bit. But anyway, it
• 2:02:59
  was like the friend of a friend of a pastor or some networked person within
• 2:03:03
  their church was at the revival and said that the Asbury Revival is so legit.
• 2:03:12
  It's so unplanned, it's so unforced. It's so like the people wanted
• 2:03:16
  God is there. Boom. It's not like, oh okay, guys,
• 2:03:20
  it's all like all right, and you know, look to your left,
• 2:03:23
  you hug the guy you know whatever that you don't know, awkward, awkward,
• 2:03:28
  but he and then like ten minutes of breaking the eyes and the pastors
• 2:03:31
  trying to talk about sports and something and then well but then in the Bible
• 2:03:35
  and then it's just this really awkward thing. Like that's why I really can't
• 2:03:40
  stand going to church usually, but this revival thing is just God and it's
• 2:03:46
  so legit, it's so real, and I really I wanted to just give
• 2:03:51
  some credit to Dustin, my brother in law, for spring that up,
• 2:03:56
  Like Wow, this is this is real, Like this is really happening.
• 2:04:00
  This is not forced, it's not fake. Church. God is moving,
• 2:04:04
  it's spreading to other churches. Now. I think Asbury has carried the football
• 2:04:09
  long enough and now they're sharing it to other places. And it's just we
• 2:04:13
  need to be there, ready, you guys, be ready for new believers
• 2:04:17
  to enter into your circles that just met God this last few weeks, just
• 2:04:21
  like a lot of people met the Lord in the last couple of years because
• 2:04:25
  of COVID lockdowns. Oh my gosh, Like my job isn't the most important
• 2:04:28
  thing in the world or football, it's Wow, I need God. So
• 2:04:32
  guys get ready and the enemy's gonna lock down again. There's gonna be more
• 2:04:35
  weird things and we'll be reporting on it. But Heaven is open. Hell
• 2:04:42
  is open. But the more open Hell opens. The prophecies that I've been
• 2:04:46
  clinging to are that Heaven will open even wider than Hell for those of us
• 2:04:51
  who are open to heaven as hell opens too. I kind of butchered that,
• 2:04:59
  but yeah, you get what I'm saying, man, So yeah,
• 2:05:02
  you mean to tell me when people get together and they pray together and they
• 2:05:09
  ask God to show up, that he actually shows up. Yes, Yes,
• 2:05:20
  he actually shows up. You have and I think we have that to
• 2:05:26
  a certain extent right now, Daniel, even though I've never met you physically,
• 2:05:29
  and a lot of my friends that I talk to now i've never met
• 2:05:33
  too, But when I meet them, it's like, Yeah, we are
• 2:05:38
  in united purpose to ask God to show up and to come into our lives
• 2:05:44
  and to do stuff, and He's doing it. And when you have a
• 2:05:47
  bunch of twenty year roles in college that are sick and tired of all the
• 2:05:51
  garbage and they show up and they want to praise God. I'm sure it
• 2:05:57
  wasn't just that of like, well, we're so spiritual. It was I'm
• 2:06:00
  sure a lot of those people were broken. I'm sure a lot of people
• 2:06:03
  are pretty freaked out about the world and whatnot. They just wanted Jesus,
• 2:06:06
  and Jesus is doing it. And Aspray is a great school too. Mm
• 2:06:10
  hmmm. Dustin made the joke. He's like, yeah, it's a Christian
• 2:06:13
  school. What are they gonna do? Like, all right, guys,
• 2:06:15
  uh, time to stop praising God and experiencing God's spirit now get back to
• 2:06:18
  class to learn the Bible. No, they're like, of course they're going
• 2:06:23
  to cancel class. And that's the beauty of it. We should be canceling
• 2:06:27
  class and canceling work for God. When God is doing something, we need
• 2:06:33
  to pause whatever it is the world tells us we have to do. And
• 2:06:38
  pretty soon it's gonna be time to leave Egypt, guys. I mean,
• 2:06:41
  the bride has a place prepared for her in the wilderness as Babylon goes into
• 2:06:45
  total New world order. In Sanity Evil six seven eight g demon infested cannibalism,
• 2:06:53
  child sacrifice, like God's gonna take us out of here, So don't
• 2:06:59
  be too addicted to whatever you're doing right now to pay the bills, because
• 2:07:02
  you know it's almost time. I think he's raising Moses is. I think
• 2:07:06
  you're one of those moseses Daniel. I think your your voice and what you
• 2:07:12
  are doing to help so many people find the truth. You're going to help
• 2:07:15
  lead people to freedom. And you have a heart and you you love Heaven.
• 2:07:20
  You want more Heaven, me too. I mean, any time you
• 2:07:24
  want to do another show about this, brother, I'll prepare better next time.
• 2:07:28
  But there is so much to talk about when it comes to just the
• 2:07:30
  heavenly realms, and we're just we're on our journey through this dark world.
• 2:07:35
  We all somehow made the choice to get born into this world in this generation.
• 2:07:41
  And it's World War three all the time. Every day you know the
• 2:07:45
  end times and just but Heaven is there and God will give us like increased
• 2:07:53
  joy. The worst things get on earth, the closer you are to Jesus,
• 2:07:57
  the more joy you're going to have. Yes, and the provision in
• 2:08:00
  fearlessness. You're not gonna live in fear of death all the time. Okay,
• 2:08:03
  we die, we die, but you're gonna have this incredible provision of
• 2:08:09
  God's presence, not just the bread and the loaves and the fishes, but
• 2:08:15
  the presence of God as well, Because who wants to live in a bunker
• 2:08:18
  with some guy that never ever experienced the joy of the Lord? And you're
• 2:08:22
  like, what was that movie with John the Big guy, the Kentucky guy,
• 2:08:30
  what's his name? It's it's a one of these ends of the world
• 2:08:33
  movies, and there's these kids in a bunker with this dude and he's crazy
• 2:08:39
  and he's like paranoid and like it's the end of the world outside, but
• 2:08:43
  you're not really sure. And John Goodman he's like kind of good, but
• 2:08:50
  then he turns out really evil at the end and they have to kill him
• 2:08:54
  and escape, and it's like, gosh, like what if you were stuck
• 2:08:56
  in that kind of situation? Just look up John good movies. It was
• 2:09:00
  like twenty seventeen, great movie. Okay, I don't think I saw this
• 2:09:03
  field Lane, Like, I don't want to just live my life preparing for
• 2:09:11
  the end of the world and then end up in a dang bunker with John
• 2:09:13
  Goodman that wants to kill me and then we have to throw it into a
• 2:09:18
  vat of acid to survive and escape. And you know, right, besides,
• 2:09:24
  like God, it's going to judge us on on what we did in
• 2:09:28
  our flesh, and really our works of righteousness are filthy rags. Only the
• 2:09:31
  things that we did through His spirit are going to matter. So we have
• 2:09:35
  to operate in His kingdom, in His spirit for our works to even hold
• 2:09:41
  water, whether it's podcasting or witnessing on the streets, for starting a church,
• 2:09:48
  like we need to obey God and follow God to a tee every day.
• 2:09:52
  Yeah, through the to navigate in the end times. I think about
• 2:09:58
  revival. What does revival mean? Well, it's it's kind of like God,
• 2:10:03
  uh, recharging your batteries, like charging up your weapons. It's a
• 2:10:11
  it's a revival from all this, you know, trudging through the darkness and
• 2:10:13
  the swamps and stuff, and and you have revival. You have a reconnection
• 2:10:18
  with God and it's like you're plugging into the source. Like and that's all
• 2:10:26
  contingent on you know, your level of faith and how much you've developed your
• 2:10:31
  faith and how much you've stepped out in faith and your trust in the Lord.
• 2:10:39
  So maybe next time we can talk talk about you know, spiritual weapons.
• 2:10:41
  We've talked about kind of spirit helpers. Maybe we talk about spiritual weapons
• 2:10:46
  and charging up our you know, our ex calibers and and that sort of
• 2:10:52
  thing. Well, one of the weapons is the spirit helpers and general like
• 2:11:00
  we were trained, and I would like to bring out those prophecies again to
• 2:11:03
  learn how to call forth your angels for specific tasks and and not to worship
• 2:11:09
  them. I mean, it's a very functional weapon to be able to like
• 2:11:15
  draw forth the sword of EXCaliber to defeat the enemy, and the sword summons
• 2:11:20
  the ancient power of cozokh Dul that kills the ancient you know whatever. It's
• 2:11:28
  all kind of like a video game in a way. I mean video games
• 2:11:31
  are are copying the spirit realm, so that's a given. But there are
• 2:11:37
  specific tools weapons, there's scrolls, there's there's a there's training that is involved
• 2:11:46
  in all of this stuff. There are keys to open and shut doors,
• 2:11:52
  and it's all in the Bible. So people just read your Bibles. Don't
• 2:11:58
  be afraid to ask God, like who's my guardardian angel? Okay, And
• 2:12:01
  it might be a nickname, like for me, it was optimis kind of
• 2:12:05
  a joke. But I don't have to imagine very far to think about what
• 2:12:09
  Optimist was, like Giant Transformer, totally cool, never did a bad thing
• 2:12:16
  ever, Defender you know, so fine, I'll nickname I'll talk to all
• 2:12:24
  right. And whenever I'm driving down the road in a motorcycle or a moped
• 2:12:26
  and I think I'm gonna die, and then I see this huge semi truck
• 2:12:31
  in front of me, and I'm thinking, like, what if that was
• 2:12:33
  my guardian angel, like reminding me, like, just think of Optimists Prime,
• 2:12:37
  like from Transformers, that's your guardian angel. Don't be afraid, Like,
• 2:12:41
  Okay, I've never been in an accident since I was like sixteen years
• 2:12:45
  old. And is my guardian angel actually Optimist Prime. Probably not, But
• 2:12:50
  when the show, when the movies came out in two thousand and seven,
• 2:12:54
  after I got that prophecy, I couldn't help. But look at how Optimist
• 2:13:00
  Prime talks and acts and defends some wiki. You know, It's like,
• 2:13:05
  my gosh, that is a guardian angel if I've ever seen one. And
• 2:13:11
  don't be afraid to ask God, and don't be afraid to be a little
• 2:13:13
  bit goofy sometimes with God, and just just accept whatever he gives you and
• 2:13:18
  just go with that. Don't be afraid to be a child with God,
• 2:13:22
  and he will honor your faith. And according to Daniel X, like he'll
• 2:13:26
  even give you a silver Lamborghini apparently, like even if you don't want one,
• 2:13:33
  just to be funny, you can have that. By the way,
• 2:13:37
  I don't need that. I'll take your beat up truck any day. Okay.
• 2:13:39
  I can't take the trash out with a Lamborghini, so true, you
• 2:13:43
  know, but to twenty five miles an hour through like the Salt Flats or
• 2:13:52
  something, you could you could use the Lamborghini. Yeah, that would be
• 2:13:56
  fun. But why, hi, Daniel, why would you do that,
• 2:14:01
  Daniel? Why except you are trying to impress your girlfriend. Neville Johnson had
• 2:14:07
  a vision of Heaven and Jesus and he says that Jesus is really into cars
• 2:14:13
  apparently, so that's all interesting. Jesus is not against cars, No,
• 2:14:20
  I don't think so. I think he looks at the things that we managed
• 2:14:24
  to create and he's like, wow, you know, I gave them the
• 2:14:28
  power to create, and they've made some you know, miraculous achievements. If
• 2:14:33
  it just you know, if they can get over this problem of sin.
• 2:14:39
  You know all that I have like waiting for them so much more exact levels
• 2:14:45
  of advancement in the future because he just he loves us so much. Yes,
• 2:14:58
  and remember all the the gifts are for promoting that love and healing and
• 2:15:03
  blessing and just promoting his Father's kingdom. I will be done by Kingom come
• 2:15:09
  on earth as it doesn't have it they meant, and it's it's been a
• 2:15:13
  hard lesson, but you know, just praising God, praising Jesus for every
• 2:15:20
  difficult passage in your life, every traumatic thing that you have to go through.
• 2:15:28
  Just learning to sit in the center of that with the peace of God
• 2:15:33
  is it's a transformational experience God. Knowing that God's got it covered, even
• 2:15:41
  if it seems like you're going through hell, like you're going to come out
• 2:15:43
  on the other side. It's just tremendous like faith building. Oh, it's
• 2:15:50
  just it's great. It's indescribable. Amen. That is that is well,
• 2:15:56
  next show, we'll start from right where you left off right there. That
• 2:15:58
  is one of the main weapons of the spirit is extreme praise in the midst
• 2:16:05
  of whatever trauma God allows in your life. And yes, he does allow
• 2:16:09
  traumatic things sometimes, whether it's because of our sins or other people or whatever
• 2:16:15
  or job factor. But praising God, being in gratitude and thankfulness in the
• 2:16:20
  midst of mental breakdown situations. I'm telling you you will move mountains and God
• 2:16:30
  all heaven will take notice. Yeah, brilliant man. Well this was fun.
• 2:16:37
  I appreciate your your time and again just all your tireless efforts for the
• 2:16:41
  network. And anytime you want to do a show, just let me know
• 2:16:45
  and I'll I will cancel everything except this nighttime gig because I'm alone in a
• 2:16:52
  truck stop and I can do this and be on the show. Yeah,
• 2:16:54
  it's always great. Anything else, it's always great having you on. It's
• 2:16:58
  always great our conversations. Like you said, we're just scratching the surface here
• 2:17:03
  people. But we'll definitely have you back on again soon and we'll talk about
• 2:17:09
  spiritual weapons or whatever else we want to talk about. But it was great
• 2:17:13
  having you on. Thank you so much. Man. All right, We'll
• 2:17:18
  be in touch and I'll be following your your hard work and labor on the
• 2:17:24
  network. And you know, if you need to share the labor anytime,
• 2:17:28
  if you ever feel burdened by that, just let us know. Oh yeah,
• 2:17:31
  well we'll be forging forward. I still got like twenty more shows Spirit
• 2:17:37
  wore shows to post to the network too, So I'm trying to do like
• 2:17:41
  it just to a day, you know, to a days. Want to
• 2:17:43
  overwhelm the feed and thank you so much again and we'll be in touch.
• 2:17:50
  Absolutely. You want to plug your website and speaker channel and stuff real quick.
• 2:17:56
  Faithbooks dot com is my website that I built from scratch. I did
• 2:18:01
  not build the French radio network from scratch, but Johnny showed me a Gmail
• 2:18:09
  and we have a PayPal spirit Force zero one at gmail dot com. And
• 2:18:16
  we have a Patreon Michael Basham which I do not post you because they will
• 2:18:20
  delete you if they hear one word out of me. So I think they
• 2:18:24
  don't know who I am. But that has been a vial piece of our
• 2:18:31
  being able to finance having a downtown studio, which I know I don't broadcast
• 2:18:35
  from it enough, but we are hosting Bible studies and other missionary activities locally
• 2:18:39
  here in North Carolina. And that's it. Yeah, faithbook dot com.
• 2:18:46
  And what about ministry x dot com? Huh, where's that? Ministry xpodcast
• 2:18:52
  dot com is where you go, Oh, okay, there's not a whole
• 2:18:56
  lot there yet, pods dot com. Yes, I'm updating it, Pierre.
• 2:19:03
  You just to build that. Uh it's on the Fringe Radio Network.
• 2:19:07
  Uh servers. Oh my gosh, no way, no fear. Yeah yeah,
• 2:19:16
  okay, yeah, Johnny did all the back end, back end work
• 2:19:20
  for that. So thanks to Johnny for ministry xpodcast dot com. You can
• 2:19:24
  link to all the previous episodes there more. I'm updating it more and more,
• 2:19:33
  so keep checking back. Wonderful. I'm so happy to hear that.
• 2:19:39
  Well, thank you again. Yes, we must talk more about Asian scenes,
• 2:19:56
  so thank you. Well, it's just it's interesting how my podcast,
• 2:20:01
  like what I decide to talk about, kind of triangulates with a few different
• 2:20:05
  things, and I'll usually just send you a random message, Hey I had
• 2:20:09
  you know, I was thinking about this, and then I had a dream
• 2:20:11
  and this, and oh you got to come on the show. Yeah,
• 2:20:13
  next time we have that triangulation, I'll get you on and and people listen.
• 2:20:20
  This is called community. We got the Fringe Christian Radio Network community going
• 2:20:24
  on here, and we actually talk to each other and message each other and
• 2:20:28
  you know, sometimes argue about things behind the scenes, not me and Daniel,
• 2:20:33
  But hey, why'd you say that? Oh? No, I didn't
• 2:20:35
  mean that. No, Oh did you hear what that person said? But
• 2:20:39
  this is actual brothership, weapon of brothership, because Johnny is all about getting
• 2:20:50
  a big team together. And you know, we've got strange o'clock podcasts and
• 2:20:54
  those guys and and just a big community. It's gonna grow. Oh,
• 2:21:00
  I think this is going to grow into something bigger as the need increases and
• 2:21:05
  people become aware of this information, and like where do I go? And
• 2:21:09
  I think Michael Heiser might be the patron saint of Fringe Christian radio network stuff
• 2:21:13
  like I don't know, but we'll see. I'm not gonna say he isn't,
• 2:21:18
  but I don't want to claim it. Maybe he's like the patron saint
• 2:21:22
  of SkyWatch TV, not Fringe Radio network. But we'll see. But overall
• 2:21:28
  the movement is as we're still an inch community, so we need more unity
• 2:21:31
  and we need more interactions. So comment on the shows, meet other like
• 2:21:39
  minded people, try to get out of Facebook, and like, we'll actually
• 2:21:45
  build I think we're gonna build a real constellation, a nebula of good,
• 2:21:50
  good fellowship. But it's already there. And I thank you for helping keep
• 2:21:52
  that. All right. I'll let you go on man, all right forever.
• 2:21:56
  Yeah, have a good night, all right. That was Michael Basham
• 2:22:01
  Spirit Wars. You can find that here on Fringe Radio Network and go to
• 2:22:09
  faithbooks dot com to check out all this other stuff. We're gonna take a
• 2:22:16
  quick break here and we'll look at some news on the other side. You've
• 2:22:20
  been listening to Ministry X ten years on. Pope Francis faces challenges from the
• 2:25:26
  right and the left. This is coming from the New York Times, and
• 2:25:35
  rumors have been swirling that Francis may retire due to health concerns. Let's read
• 2:25:46
  Pope Francis wants envisioned serving only a few years as pontiff. On Monday,
• 2:25:50
  he commemorated his tenth anniversary as leader of the world's Roman Catholics, saying it
• 2:25:56
  seemed quote like yesterday that he took control of an ideologically divided church that has
• 2:26:03
  opposed him from the right for going too far and criticized him from the left
• 2:26:09
  for not going far enough. Throughout the past decade, Francis, now eighty
• 2:26:15
  six, has visited far flung countries and strode across the international stage as a
• 2:26:20
  major figure willing to use his moral capital on the major issues of the day.
• 2:26:28
  He has made the College of Cardinals, which will pick his successor,
• 2:26:31
  much more global, and his open doors to debate in the Church, seeking
• 2:26:37
  to make a torn institution more collegial, unified, and less centralized in Rome.
• 2:26:43
  But deep into Francis's longer than average papacy, many of the faithful or
• 2:26:50
  wondering whether the Pope slowed by a bad knee, but perhaps less inhibited after
• 2:26:54
  the death of his predecessor, Pope Benedict the sixteenth, will a concrete and
• 2:27:01
  transformative change, or decide once and for all that such shifts will not happen
• 2:27:05
  on his watch. Quote it's been ten and tense years unquote. Cardinal Pietro
• 2:27:13
  Perolin, the Vatican Secretary of State and second highest ranking figure after the Pope,
• 2:27:20
  told reporters on Monday evening. He said that the reform of the Roman
• 2:27:24
  bureaucracy that governs the Church, which is deeply resistant to change, took a
• 2:27:31
  lot of time and a lot of energy. Cardinal Giovanni Battista Rey, dean
• 2:27:37
  of the College of Cardinals, added in a brief interview on Monday evening that
• 2:27:41
  the Pope quote realized many things unquote during his pontificate quote, mainly the new
• 2:27:48
  ideas building bridges unquote, But Francis has had less success in bringing bishops along
• 2:27:56
  with him, something he views as essential for making lasting change. Quote.
• 2:28:01
  In all these years, we didn't see a clear majority of reformers among the
• 2:28:07
  bishops and priests all over the world, said Marco Politi, a veteran Vatican
• 2:28:13
  analyst and author of Pope Francis among the Wolves, The Inside Story of a
• 2:28:18
  Revolution. While Francis has for a decade faced unrelenting pressure from conservatives, especially
• 2:28:26
  in the United States, who opposed his more inclusive style, social justice focus
• 2:28:31
  and de emphasis on the sexual culture wars, the latest pressure has come from
• 2:28:37
  Francis's left flank on an issue with which he made his mark as a transformative
• 2:28:43
  figure. This weekend, the opposition came from the powerful, wealthy and progressive
• 2:28:48
  German Roman Catholic Church, once a bedrock of European Catholicism that produced the last
• 2:28:54
  Pope, but that is now a deeply shaken institution that believed it needs to
• 2:29:00
  give lay people more of a voice. After devastating sexual abuse scandals accelerated an
• 2:29:07
  exodus of worshipers. Germany's Catholic bishops defied the Vatican by overwhelmingly voting this weekend
• 2:29:15
  to approve voluntary ceremonies to bless same sex relationships, as well as those of
• 2:29:20
  couples who divorced and remarried outside the Catholic Church. The Germans also voted to
• 2:29:26
  urge Francis to reconsider the question of priestly celibacy. The vote appeared to throw
• 2:29:33
  down a gauntlet for Francis, who has made outreach to marginalized gay Catholics a
• 2:29:39
  touchstone of his papacy, famously saying quote who am I to judge unquote.
• 2:29:48
  He is also ministered to transgender Catholics, counseled gay couples on the upbringing of
• 2:29:54
  their children, endorsed same sex civil unions, and recently asserted that quote being
• 2:29:58
  home sexual is not a crime unquote. But the church doctrine, which considers
• 2:30:05
  homosexuality intrinsically disordered, has not changed, and in twenty twenty one, the
• 2:30:11
  church's Orthodoxy watchdog banned the blessing of gay couples by arguing that God quote cannot
• 2:30:18
  bless sin unquote, and that it would be illicit for a priest to acknowledge
• 2:30:24
  same sex unions while blessing. Such relationships has become increasingly common in Germany in
• 2:30:31
  recent years, and has even included orchestrated live streamed ceremonies. The Vaticans sought
• 2:30:37
  to prevent the German bishops from officially moving ahead, and clearly did not appreciate
• 2:30:43
  their having done so. Asked on Monday evening if the German Church was in
• 2:30:48
  rebellion, Cardinal Perolyn said, quote, let's not speak of rebellion in the
• 2:30:54
  Church. There has always been tensions and different positions unquote. That the Germans
• 2:31:00
  were clearly making decisions that don't exactly correspond with what is the actual doctrine of
• 2:31:07
  the church unquote. Cardinal Perolyn said, the Holy See has made its position
• 2:31:11
  abundantly clear. In November, Vatican officials tried to shut down the German Assembly
• 2:31:18
  during a meeting in Rome. In January, top Vatican cardinals, with Francis's
• 2:31:24
  explicit approval, said they would accept no overhaul of church governance in Germany that
• 2:31:28
  gave lay people the potential to overrule bishops. Francis himself suggested he did not
• 2:31:35
  recognize the German Church's reform process and warned that it was quote very very ideological
• 2:31:43
  unquote and quote made by the elites unquote, a sign he was worried it
• 2:31:50
  did not reflect the Church's base. The Vatican need not look far to see
• 2:31:54
  the divisive power of the issue. Anglican Church has been split apart by gay
• 2:32:01
  rights, with conservative provinces, including many in Africa, breaking off relations with
• 2:32:07
  Western provinces that accept and bless same sex relationships. At the meeting of Catholics
• 2:32:13
  in Frankfort over the weekend, Bishop Gregor Maria Franz Hanky of Ekstadt warned during
• 2:32:22
  the debate over the proposed blessing that he hoped, quote this step is not
• 2:32:28
  going to tear us apart the way the Anglican Church finds itself unquote. Francis
• 2:32:33
  told the leader of Germany's Catholic bishops in twenty twenty two that the country already
• 2:32:37
  had quote a very good evangelical church unquote, and we don't need too.
• 2:32:48
  Francis would clearly prefer that the blessing of same sex couples be discussed with bishops
• 2:32:52
  at a major meeting a synod that he is organizing for October and next year.
• 2:33:00
  Some analysts have compared the meeting to a miniature Second Vatican Council, the
• 2:33:05
  landmark Church assembly of bishops in the nineteen sixties that opened up the church to
• 2:33:09
  the modern world. Francis has made it clear that he wants many, if
• 2:33:15
  not all, of his bishops behind him, and analysts say that the German
• 2:33:20
  Church risks not only raising the Pope's ire, but also exposing how alone it
• 2:33:26
  is on the issue of gay blessings in a global church. The German bishops
• 2:33:31
  did appear to bow to some papal pressure, delaying carrying out the blessings for
• 2:33:37
  three years, which will give Francis time to run the issues through his major
• 2:33:41
  meeting. Cardinal Peroln said it was a good sign because an individual national church
• 2:33:48
  needed to engage in earnest dialogue with Rome and the rest of the universal church
• 2:33:52
  quote to clarify what are the decisions to be taken unquote. It is the
• 2:34:00
  wider church meeting in Rome, experts say that will matter most. Quote.
• 2:34:03
  We will see the real situation with the Universal Synod. We can see the
• 2:34:09
  strengths of the different groups unquote, mister Polidi said. He added Francis has
• 2:34:15
  opened doors and windows and new paths which are and which will continue to be
• 2:34:20
  important for the Catholic Church. There is no going back, but the church's
• 2:34:26
  liberals remain frustrated by what they view as a hold up. Quote Today,
• 2:34:31
  it seems clear that Pope Francis has a Gorbachev problem, enormous acclaim outside the
• 2:34:37
  Catholic Church, but increasingly brazen opposition from within. Unquote. John L.
• 2:34:43
  Allen Junior, the editor of Crux, a new site specializing in coverage of
• 2:34:48
  the Vatican and the Catholic Church, wrote on Sunday comparing Francis to Mikhail Gorbachev,
• 2:34:54
  the former Soviet president. Quote. Also, like Gorbachev, Francis's foes
• 2:35:03
  come both from a traditionalist right unhappy with his progressive agenda, and an impatient
• 2:35:09
  left increasingly hungry for actual revolution rather than mere reform. Unquote. Francis has
• 2:35:16
  shifted from entertaining talk of resigning to speaking more about the papacy being a lifetime
• 2:35:22
  ministry. But after health ailments that have him leaning on a cane or using
• 2:35:28
  a wheelchair, some wonder how much time for change is left. Quote time
• 2:35:33
  flies, Francis said in a Vatican podcast on Monday. When you gather up
• 2:35:37
  today, it is already tomorrow. So and remember towards the end of last
• 2:35:46
  year the Pope's comments about an elegant demon inside the Vatican. I'm assuming he's
• 2:35:58
  not so subtly referring to his opponents inside Rome. So is he going to
• 2:36:11
  face this controversy, these controversies head on, or is he going to resign
• 2:36:20
  and let the next pope decide the course of the Catholic Church? Or is
• 2:36:28
  there going to be another pope? We shall see. Let's skip ahead to
• 2:36:35
  our next story, from the Vatican to the Pentagon. Pentagon UFO chief says
• 2:36:45
  alien mothership in our solar system possible. This is from the Military Times Military
• 2:36:54
  Times dot com. There is a possibility that extraterrestrial mother ships and smaller probes
• 2:37:01
  maybe visiting planets in our solar system, the head of the Pentagon's Unidentified Aerial
• 2:37:07
  Phenomenon Research Office noted in a report draft shared Tuesday. Quote an artificial interstellar
• 2:37:16
  object could potentially be a parent craft that releases many small probes during its close
• 2:37:24
  passage to Earth, an operational construct not too dissimilar from NASA missions. Quote
• 2:37:31
  Sean Kirkpatrick director of the Pentagon's All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, wrote in a
• 2:37:37
  research report co authored by Abraham Loeb, chairman of Harvard University's astronomy department,
• 2:37:46
  that's Avi Lobe. Kirkpatrick, who was appointed as director of the a ROW
• 2:37:52
  when it was founded in July twenty twenty two, previously served as the chief
• 2:37:58
  scientist at the Defense Intelligence Agencies Missile and Space Intelligence Center the a ROW.
• 2:38:03
  The aa ROW was established to investigate unidentified objects of interest around military installations,
• 2:38:13
  according to a Pentagon press release. Lobe, on the other hand, gained
• 2:38:18
  notoriety when he proposed our solar system had been traversed by its first extrasolar visitor
• 2:38:24
  in October twenty seventeen. At that time, the pan Star's telescope in Hawaii
• 2:38:31
  detected an object moving at a speed that caused some scientists to suggest that it
• 2:38:37
  originated outside our system. The object's orbit also hinted at other forces besides the
• 2:38:43
  Sun's gravitational pull influencing its movement. Scientists dubbed the object a mua mua,
• 2:38:50
  the Hawaiian term for scout, which Kirkpatrick and Lobe offer in their research paper
• 2:38:56
  as an example of a possible mothership with probe capabilities. With proper design,
• 2:39:03
  these tiny probes would reach the Earth or other Solar System planets for exploration as
• 2:39:09
  the parent craft passes by within a fraction of the Earth Sun's separation, just
• 2:39:16
  like a muamua did. The authors explained astronomers would not be able to notice
• 2:39:22
  the spray of many probes because they do not reflect enough sunlight for existing survey
• 2:39:28
  telescopes to notice them. The research paper, titled Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial
• 2:39:35
  Phenomena, comes following a month of intense scrutiny of unidentified flying objects. A
• 2:39:43
  stirring trend ignited when a Chinese spy balloon captivated the nation by drifting across US
• 2:39:48
  airspace. Three additional unidentified objects were subsequently found. Well, they weren't found.
• 2:39:56
  We didn't recover them. We shot them out of the sky. On
• 2:40:01
  February sixteenth, Senator's Marco Rubio of Florida, Kirsten Gillibrand of New York,
• 2:40:09
  and twelve other senators sent a letter to Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks and
• 2:40:16
  Deputy Director of National Intelligence Stacy Dixon calling for full funding for the a ROW.
• 2:40:24
  The Biden administration's previous funding request for fiscal year twenty twenty three failed to
• 2:40:30
  fund anything beyond the office's basic operating expenses. The lawmakers argued a ROW provides
• 2:40:39
  the opportunity to integrate and resolve threats and hazards to the US while also offering
• 2:40:45
  increased transparency to the American people and reducing the stigma. The lawmaker's letter stated
• 2:40:54
  a row's success will depend on robust funding for its activities and cooperation between between
• 2:41:00
  the Department of Defense and the intelligence community. Yeah, and that's like the
• 2:41:07
  exact opposite of what we've seen with these objects shot down recently. Were they
• 2:41:16
  really shot down? Uh? Was there anything recovered? Wouldn't you think we'd
• 2:41:24
  want to recover some of the debris or capture some of the debris to identify
• 2:41:28
  what these things are? And how does this compare to the craft that were
• 2:41:33
  cited, you know, on the Knimics, you know that defied the laws
• 2:41:41
  of physics and made maneuvers that were impossible for any known aircraft. To these
• 2:41:50
  things which are being shot down by sidewinder missiles. Very curious. And what
• 2:42:01
  I think is going on is they're just throwing anything and everything out there in
• 2:42:05
  the public for speculation. There's so much confusion revolving around this that will never
• 2:42:11
  understand the truth. Will never We're not supposed to understand the truth. This
• 2:42:18
  idea that this is supposed to create more transparency, well that's just nonsense.
• 2:42:28
  Let's move on to this. This is from Business insider. Rain Wilson called
• 2:42:37
  out The Last of Us for perpetuating an anti Christian bias in media, then
• 2:42:43
  slammed Fox News for writing about his comments. So we know Rain Wilson from
• 2:42:48
  the office. This is what he said. Actor Rain Wilson, who played
• 2:42:54
  Dwight Shroot in The Office, called out HBO's hit show The Last of Us
• 2:43:01
  for perpetuating an anti Christian bias in Hollywood, and when Fox News wrote about
• 2:43:07
  his comments, he criticized the news agency. Quote, I do think there
• 2:43:13
  is an anti Christian bias in Hollywood unquote, Wilson posted on Twitter over the
• 2:43:18
  weekend. Quote as soon as the David character in the Last of Us started
• 2:43:24
  reading from the Bible, I knew that he was going to be a horrific
• 2:43:28
  villain. Could there be a Bible reading preacher on a show who is actually
• 2:43:33
  loving and kind question mark unquote. Yeah, good point right. Wilson's tweet
• 2:43:41
  sparked a lengthy debate on the social media platform, with over thirty five hundred
• 2:43:46
  comments piling up in the post's comment section. Some users slammed Wilson's tweet as
• 2:43:52
  tone deaf, while others took his side, arguing that Christians don't fit into
• 2:43:58
  one stereotype. Others called him out for not paying close enough attention to the
• 2:44:03
  show's character quote did you stop watching the episode after that? Unquote? One
• 2:44:09
  user commented, Or did you miss the fact that he wasn't actually Christian and
• 2:44:13
  only assumed that role so he could have power in the community unquote. After
• 2:44:22
  Fox News reported on the ongoing debate, Wilson targeted the right wing organization with
• 2:44:26
  a further tweet thread saying, talk about bias an organization created as a corporate
• 2:44:33
  shill to create divisions solely for profit based on culture war outrage print that.
• 2:44:41
  In a tweet posted on Monday, Wilson hedged his previous statement, writing that,
• 2:44:46
  quote the evangelical slash political coalition is doing a great deal of damage to
• 2:44:52
  our country unquote, quote banning books, banning freedoms, denying inconvenient science,
• 2:45:01
  taking a grotesque anti LGBTQ plus platform, he wrote, but he added that
• 2:45:09
  quote most Christians that I know are kind, accepting and loving and seeking to
• 2:45:15
  make the world a better place. They should also be honored in the media
• 2:45:20
  unquote. He later posted also, I'm not even a Christian unquote. So
• 2:45:28
  more Twitter controversy, and it just appears as I'm kind of browsing around for
• 2:45:37
  news articles to cover this whole LGBTQ trans agenda is really coming to the forefront
• 2:45:48
  now. They are pushing this so hard, and it's for specifically this reason.
• 2:45:54
  It's to cause division and outrage and get us all fighting with each other.
• 2:46:03
  And I want to use this opportunity to bring up the Aspbury Revival because
• 2:46:07
  a lot of people have been talking about that. I heard a podcast by
• 2:46:13
  Chris pinto Noise of Thunder Radio, which I tune into from time to time,
• 2:46:18
  and he was questioning the legitimacy of the Ashbury Aspbury Revival because of some
• 2:46:26
  speakers that the school had brought on to speak at the campus, one of
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  which was an extremist feminist speaker, and I think one of the students was
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  openly gay, and in his comments he had said that he is gay he
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  has an attraction to males, but that he chose to be celibate and that
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  he believed in traditional marriage, which raises the question, I mean, there
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  are people out there that struggle with same sex attraction. Is that nature or
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  nurture? Is? What is that? I'm not sure if we know.
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  But if anything, if you have that sort of struggle and you also have
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  a connection to Jesus, you also believe in Jesus and you believe in his
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  sacrifice and that that's the necessity for your salvation. If you did have that
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  struggle, if you did have those tendencies, well, isn't it the responsible
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  thing to say, I'm taking on a life of celibacy. I admit that
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  I have this struggle, and I'm choosing to be celibate and serve Christ.
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  I mean, that's the position you would want to take. So I don't
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  know. It seems to me like this could very well be a legitimate revival,
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  But time will tell. Because don't we all have a predisposition towards sin,
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  whether it's you know, same sex attraction or you know, fornication,
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  adultery, addictions, anger rage. That's where we go wrong. We don't
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  pursue those lifestyles. We repent from those lifestyles. We don't encourage those lifestyles
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  or legitimize them in the church, but we don't refuse the people themselves who
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  are sinners, because we're all sinners. Imagine if we had a church where
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  we excluded anyone who had ever had pre marital sex or committed adultery, there'd
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  be hardly anybody in the church. So the same goes for the LGBTQ community.
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  If you are a follower of Christ and you are seeking to be right
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  with Him, then you repent of that lifestyle. So I think it comes
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  down to when the clergy, your pastor the priest is endorsing this sort of
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  lifestyle and saying it's okay. Gay marriage is okay, the gay lifestyle is
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  okay. You know, polygamy is okay, or whatever it might be,
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  polyamorous relationships, et cetera, et cetera. That's where the church loses its
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  way. We need to love these people and encourage them to align themselves with
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  God's prescription for our life because it's healthy. These alternative lifestyles are not healthy.
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  They're not healthy for human beings, they're not healthy for families. They're
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  just not. And this whole issue of who's a real Christian, who's not
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  a real Christian, Who's you know, what we're seeing and what we're going
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  to see more and more of is this schism within the church and this division
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  between the quote unquote nice Christians who accept gay marriage and accept the LGBTQ lifestyle
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  and you know, gender diversity and all this, and the traditional Christians who
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  don't, the nice, tolerant, accepting worldly Christians and the conservative traditional Christians
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  who actually take the Bible seriously and take the words of Jesus seriously. They're
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  gonna be pitted against each other. And so you're gonna see more fracturing in
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  the church like this, the Catholic Church, the Anglican Church, the Methodist
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  Church. And that's the real danger. The church is gonna be split asunder.
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  And you know, Rain Wilson isn't even a Christian, like he said,
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  of course he's not. Of course he's not. But even a liberal
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  Hollywood guy like him can see the bias that exists in the media and in
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  Hollywood. All right, Well, I'm gonna wrap it up there. I
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  had another story I wanted to talk about. I'm gonna have to save that
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  for our next episode because we're coming up on the three hour. Here.
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  Savior. Thanks for listening. Would you give her back less into the futship?
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  You would did? All I did was cry? And why what would
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  you do? That? Sacrifice? The only son follow me? And why
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  if you look at that all I said, Las Treen, you would need
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  cry? Why would you look at that? It loves the said is not
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  of a che even me, but it is he was crying