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Panthers Top 30 Visits Revealed & Saints Free Agency Recap with Bob Rose · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

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  [SPEAKER_05]: King!
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Redrin from the C.P.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Legion Only one line of Anthos The world is delicious The longest Redrin can have this fine fast On the internet It's the C.3 Panthers podcast
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Greg, I, I, y'all $100.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: One year ago, today, Tet Mcmillan visited the Carolina Panthers for one of their 30 official visits.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He was drafted number one by the Carolina Panthers.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to be looking at visits, surprise giveaways by the Panthers hidden in the streets and the bushes of Charlotte problematic fans and coaching rankings that may surprise you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We've also got a great guest tonight in Bob Rose, tell plus recap or look into our opponents, the Saints.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And their free agency, Bob Rose, a writer for Saints Wire and podcast or from Bayou Blitz, podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: My name's Tony Dunn.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: This is the C3 Panthers podcast, the longest run in Panthers podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We're live on Tuesday nights marching towards the draft.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes it's a quick step.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes it's a slow trudge.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: to lock arms in March along with all pair of their fans out there and locked arms with me on Tuesday night marching along is C. K my good friend.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: How are you brother?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, you know for for a week where nothing to talk about I'm I'm glad we find at least a little something to talk about Panthers related today on this evening.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, it's it's another, you know, one of these weeks where I'm happy to be here just to talk about the
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I move forward with maybe some insight on what's going on with the enemy in the enemy camp.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So do us a favor.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It sounds like we've got everybody in the chat.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We got a lot of the people on YouTube.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We had a notification that YouTube might not be good to go.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So it sounds looks like we're good.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: If everybody in the chat can confirm that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, man, just happy to be here with you and everybody in chat from
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  [SPEAKER_04]: have been in here I know he's got his new life he started so I know that's uh you know getting in here every single Tuesday on one of season's tough but glad to have you here man Kev.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: V. R. the Hulk Hope dealer John B. Jenkins, uh loud pack Luke, um who else do we have here Harvey London we got uh
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess all we got so far, if I'm missing somebody in my apologies, but welcome in guys and make sure to get your calls and so that way we can have you guys also direct the conversation because tell you, Tony gave you the the run down on all of the work we're going to be talking about this evening.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, sometimes it's okay for things to be short and sweet.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: The numbers two five two two two eight fifty ninety eight that's two five two two eight fifty ninety eight.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see what should we just do.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess we should just jump in right now and start with the lead.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: One year ago, this week, Joe person wrote on X to make mail in Tettaroa, because that's what is mama likes him to be called, make mail in.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Came to Charlotte on a 30 visit and made a strong impression on Dave Canalison, Dan Morgan, but T-Mac had caught Morgan's eyes months earlier.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is from Brant Tillis, who are not from Brant Tillis, but Brant Tillis quoted in this athletic article.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We watched the film several times.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It was all very good, but Dan was very convicted, like way early, like late September.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So we've talked about the importance of visits and forecasting.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: the NFL draft and you know, there are so much speculation and so many hours that people put into scouting all of these players, CK, to predicting and running model after model.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: mock draft draft after mock draft, and you get these slow times and even the panther start posting about these mock drafts, but just to tell the fans a little bit about or recap what the panther's actually having stored in this draft, they have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 picks.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: count that again.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 picks.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: First round pick, number 19 overall, got second round pick 51.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's like we're kind of just middle of the way all the way through, right?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: 1119 and then we get a cool the fifth round is going to be fun back to back picks.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I can probably see the Panthers packaging goes and moving up maybe or something somehow or we find to have two picks and ounce right in a row and they get a pick at number 200 overall.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So CK the thoughts on this is the Panthers is like everybody always wants a hydraph pick.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Panthers are just picking down the fairway here but fairway means your team is better than it was.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's the way I look at it, it's, you know, every year we have at least over the past three years, we have gotten better the next year.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, part of that has been where we've been drafting, we've gotten, you know, the higher draft pick, and obviously that worked last year with Team Ag.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: This being one that is really going to have to test Dan Morgan.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You're not talking about a sure fire hit by being a top 10 pick location.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So you really have to do your new diligence.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You have to pull in every position, every person that's caught your eye within reason.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And look at everybody and give yourself the best possible chance at getting these
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  [SPEAKER_04]: making sure whatever you're picking at the 19 or in the second round or any of these many draft things we have and you've got to give every single one of them the deep dive and making sure that it's giving you've got to be certain that you're picking a good player at 19 because you've got to continue the momentum that you've had if you're Dan Morgan.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it really is about having, um, in a draft, right?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not about nailing just a pick, but nailing, but getting a lot of picks, right?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Or, or them being contributors.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you've seen drafts with the Carolina Pethers under the Marty Hearny era.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I have landed that number one pick every single time it felt like, but it was the mid rounds that there was just no, nobody that pierced through and you had somebody
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  [SPEAKER_03]: that you found like a grunk in the thir, or a puka in the thir, or something.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Every now and then a team can get somebody in the second thir, fourths, fifth round that all of a sudden becomes in a redraw five years later.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Star.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so you look at these drafts that really make impacts for teams and make a big change is it's not just getting one pick right it's really I think that I've always said this is you can't miss your first round pick right like that's like fantasy football with fantasy football your first round pick has to hit.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But that does not win you the fantasy football league, you know, is missing your first round pick.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Really can be a detriment.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But that's not enough.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's got a great first round pick.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And while the 19th pick is not as sure fire you would think as a top 10.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: to where you are looking at the top one percent of the draft.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You kind of are and you got to nail that first round pick, but to hit a home run draft or even a double or triple, you got to nail some picks in the in the mid rounds and and the panthers are going to be interested in doing that and they've kind of done that last year and started that that cycle.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully we can package that
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  [SPEAKER_03]: draft people that they haven't met with.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And courtesy of not courtesy, it took it off as a Twitter.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So, man, yeah, thank you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: At Panther analyst Edmer Edgar Selamongo Jr. writer for Panther's wire I believe he's been keeping up with the draft tracker and I am correct on this the way he had tweeted it out is that this chart right here has 18 total, but there were four more today added.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No, not everybody is not some people on the list.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: D. A. Diego Pavla is not on this list that I can say, not everybody's here.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, 18.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: 18 people they met with that means 12 more to go.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, and so you're looking at guys right now that the Panthers are seriously interested.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And you can probably identify where they're roughly going to go.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: board rake.
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you've got some 39 and 40s here, uh, 55, 65, 31, 96.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So you're looking at first and maybe second round picks there, you know, maybe a third round pick.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: If you're looking at it of some guys that are interested in, um, see, I couldn't tell you much about any of these players.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's the
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: before the show started.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, neither of us are the draft guys, neither of us the guys who are looking at these guys before, you know, while they were in college and saying, like, we really want this guy, I really want that guy, but even with the very rudimentary, you know, understanding of who is from what players are the guy in the college,
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: None of these people stick out to me, names that I would write.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that is a thing like.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Pepsi on isn't name I've heard.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Trying to think of anybody else that's really, I'd be deonberks.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: What I would say is this is, and for me, I would look at this.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And where are the linebackers up here?
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I swear we, oh, so we haven't met with Rodriguez, but we went to his pro day.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: So there's still maybe they're holding some back right now.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, all I could do is this is kind of look at where, um, what the position groups and the volume of position groups they're looking at right here.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, if you're looking at the most is you're looking at quarterbacks, tight ends and wide receivers.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Now we know a quarterback that they're not trying to nail anybody that is a real burner.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So that means that potentially they might see that 200's pick.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: as an opportunity to get a practice squad type quarterback.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Three safety's three tight ends, three wide receivers, pretty consistent.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like the Panthers and you know what, you can probably go ahead and say three linebackers in three offensive linemen.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: by the time it's over.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, if you're looking at that CK, where do you think how much of this is it is interesting that the wide receiver hunt still continues.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah, I mean, I'm not sure if I'd say that's super interesting just because I think that
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm, it's interesting just because it's, you know, I feel like we do have somewhat of a stacked room.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I, I feel like we're still just scratching the surface of what, you know, jailing poker is a player.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I, yeah, I, maybe I don't disagree with you all that much on the, on the fact that that's maybe a bit of a,
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's not passing interest, you know, like it, you know, how sometimes when, you know, if we look at the quarterback side of things, right?
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: None of us think that we're taking a quarterback super early.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And honestly, I think many of us wouldn't be shocked if we don't take a single quarterback.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But I think the wide receiver is the is the one that is, yeah, just they do look
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I just wouldn't like the focus to be other places.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not if you see their projected board ranking though.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: The three receivers they're looking at are guys that are going to fall potentially in the second round.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And also the safety
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  [SPEAKER_03]: prospects are pretty high up there.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You got this one offensive lineman that's a high projection and offensive tackles get to 46 and 36.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So it looks like I can look at these later numbers, you know, this like these quarterbacks is the what is it the most what's the the last pick of the draft the least important person in the draft the most irrelevant Mr. irrelevant
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But if you look at that when they're looking at these safeties and they're looking at the wide receivers, they're top 100 players and maybe top 75 overall.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And offensive linemen.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So to me, those are three true areas of interest, not giving away a number one pick by any means at this point, but really showing your interest in the middle, like early middle rounds as in we want to upgrade safety, wide receiver and offensive lines still.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not upset with those.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I do think that.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought that the Panthers would try to squeak out more with the Y receiver room that they have.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: But to me, it says, like, hey, is load up, keep loadin' up, don't wait on these guys forever.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So if you jump ahead to Peter Schrager's mock draft,
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: which, um, I guess, you know, I was watching a little maybe 10 seconds of his interview a Pat McAfee.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And Pat McAfee asked if he got pushed back.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he actually had suggested that GMs were like, no, we're not interested.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We went pick this high like that, that these GMs care about these guys, mock drafts, which I think is wild to be.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: It has right now, let's just run down the list of what some of these guys are looking like.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Mendoza.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: overall looks like to be the guy that the Raiders are going to get.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, they say consensus.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, that if, honestly, if they didn't go with a Mendoza number one, I'd, I almost think you just fire that GM on the spot.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I don't know, I just,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: that's been one of the biggest areas of of problems for that team and to be drafted number one and have a what most people can see a can consider a a a consensus number one overall I think that'd be that would really not be a smart decision by the Raiders do not take a minute.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: It might be a hair older you know then some of these guys with maybe I don't know if by he's a monster's physical can move again
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And his accuracy is on point.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I was watching some of that pro day paper work.
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, not paper work, but I'm sorry.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Think about work, pro day, you know, highlights and the dude seems to be like a legit like.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, 10 point type of a passer, which I think could be helpful when you have, when you have, you know, the likes of Brock powers and many other, you know, which I'm assuming they're looking at getting the few additional weapons in the draft, but yeah, that that that's that would be priority number one of on the Raiders.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: David Bailey, Edge to the Jets, Averyl Reese, Edge to the Cardinals, run him back.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jeremiah, Jeremiah love.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: People love this guy, Notre Dame, four to the Titans.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: offensive tackle Francis Magua to the giant Spencer Fanner, which was a name that people were throwing around with the Panthers just a week ago in mock drafts, shoots up the board to number six years, so any styles to the commanders, Ruben, Bane, Jr. to the same too.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: We don't want that Jordan Tyson.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Also that's that's the I think he may have had some injuries I believe but shoot high pick right there for the chiefs Mancer delaying to the Bengals carnell tate another maybe it was tate it was either tate or tice and that has had
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: injuries, I think it was Tyson.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cornel Tate from Ohio State to the Dolphins, Caleb Downs, but Kyle Liman, so goes Caleb Downs to the Cowboys, Rams taking the Kyle Liman.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kignan Sadik who some people were, who we were all inch, I mean, a lot of people of us in that tight ends interested in.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Looks like a cordon this list out of the range to the Ravens,
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Jamad McCoy, corner back to the bucks, jet skit, a Mark Cooper in this draft.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not familiar with of of lava, uh, loan to the lions, safety, Emmanuel McNeil Warren, uh, to the Vikings.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then you get to the Panthers, Monroe Freeling, who is not, they have not met with yet.
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: But again, Panther showing some interest or a lot of people think that that
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, could be a value to the Carolina Panthers and certainly so one year deal for Rashid Walker uncertainty with your former first room pick in uh, be picky, uh, aging big free agents that are still my agent Taylor Moton, but, you know, continuing to need to upgrade that offensive line before it is aged out.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: not upset with the parents are drafted offensive line at any point in these first three rounds, but you also saw that somebody who they meet with, they met with KK KC concepts, you know, he's got him going in the first round there.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So,
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  [SPEAKER_03]: One of the many draft mock drafts that you guys can focus on and think about.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'd like to hear for you guys who you think, the Carolina Panthers, maybe will draft where they can benefit, maybe think the position group that they'll go after.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: The numbers 252, 228, 1598, C.K., around across this.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who John Friends and Friends Sella.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but I just had coach rankings.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I wanted to look at it.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And he's a Mike primary a Twitter personality.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right to 32 kid coaches and your very own Panthers head coach Dave can now listen the top is 12th overall.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's an interesting list here.
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, for the most part, I'm looking at these names and I'm not overly like, there's only a few that I'm like, okay, why are they that low or something along those lines?
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: But at the end of the day, I think that, I think this isn't the worst ranking, but I do think, I don't know that I'd be mad if he was down to 20, then,
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I'm not, I just don't know that I feel like our head coach has been the difference maker and us being a good team or not, not yet at least.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you like the idea of team ascending and given the excitement of a young coach continuing to get better and, you know, I mean, you like that is like you're kind of forecasting what they are going to be a little bit, you also need any time you want to make a good list.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: CK that gets people riled up and go in you leave something off or you miss ranked something and that really can get people riled up you know I'm saying here are the learning names that surprise you that are behind
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like that you go I mean because there's a couple that stick out to me that go wow that was really friendly to Dave can Alice in a bit rude.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do how about this is how is Kellen more ahead of some of these names even if you don't.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, how do we get changed my doing that by accident knows I'm trying to.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why are we, it's for me, I'm showing us on the, uh, 30.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's a nice change.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I changed it on my computer and I didn't put it on.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Those ones are looking at this list every here because I got two screens.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got to pull up on my notes and I don't have it pulled up.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, for you guys, wow, now it's a real surprise here.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: We can look at this list as you get, Dave can Alice, number 12, overall head coach, according to this list, I didn't really have a problem terribly with the list until I looked at, Kellon Moore ahead of some of these other names.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, because I was like, hey, I mean, I'll work up in commerce.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: To Happy Smiley, Dave can Alice, put them up there.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: But give me a name that Kellen Moore should be ahead of.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I would put Nick Seriani.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm fucking super ball coach.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: uh... Dan Campbell who had one bad year with a lot of injuries on a on a lines team uh... with that we're trying to figure out a quite a few things uh... i mean do i'm not even like let's look at john harbour other the harbors this is where i get and where i'm gonna go like this is is jim harbour really that far down the list
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why Jim Horma has been a success every single place he's bit that part doesn't make sense to me.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what they make the playoffs the first year he came with the chargers every year.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, again, I know that that's, you know, he inherited a team that had been to the playoffs.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't like he was going to a team that needed to figure out its quarterback situation.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, it's you could argue that he didn't have as much work as others, but
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there have been people who've taken over franchises that seemed to be poised for a breakout and still were not able to accomplish anything.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, I'm, I'm, I for one, I'm kind of lamborgasted by how low they have him on that list.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: It does not seem, how about the Dolphins head coach, Jeff Halfley, who's never had been a head coach before.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is it head of Jim Horbow?
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: that's the name.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I told you you wanted to make a list that got people charged up.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the bait right there.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, um, your thoughts guys on Dave Canala is being a better coach.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then Super Bowl head coach, Nick Seriani, which nobody, nobody likes my pies on there, even though he's been to what in FC Championship and Super Bowl.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jim Harba, John Harba,
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dan Quinn's also taken a team to a Superbowl.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Mike, what are these?
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Dan, yeah, Dan, we are right here.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: With the Falcons, Mike McCarthy has won a Superbowl.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Joe Brady ahead of these guys.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, let's just add, I think it's going to keep in mind, let's list.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a list that I think is intended to do exactly what it's doing right now.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's really all that it is.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is a Twitter personality that's known for going out some kind of crazy claims or what have you and, you know, getting people's reaction just like this.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not, again, it's not anything that I'm concerned with doesn't offend me at all because it's meant to get this reaction.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, CK, we've got only one call.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Our guests show an up in a couple of minutes, next five minutes, probably.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: So why don't we just go ahead and knock this call out of the park, the numbers two, five, two, two, eight, 15, 98, the are the hope dealer.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: The only one in the holes, there's hope that more may call.
• 26:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: So what do your thoughts on cat calling?
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's pretty sh**t, you shouldn't do that to somebody.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And how do that make you feel?
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Very uncomfortable.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: How do you think cat calling makes the person feel?
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It feels good, like,
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, well, well, let's top 30 visit season, and I'm excited, just to hope they'll check it out real quick.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I was looking at some of our top 30 names, man, and I'm really excited about a few of these, and I'll tell y'all, man, in particular, for me, I'm looking at Anthony
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: so impressive.
• 26:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also like Jacob Rodriguez.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Although I've been here in rumors that they made look at at why receivers will, you know, somebody like Casey conception or Omar Cooper Jr. You know, I'm just glad that we got a GM and Dan Morgan that has put us in a position where we truly can go best player available.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: But something I've been thinking about that I wanted to get
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: But maybe in the later rounds, I'm thinking y'all, we sneakily sneakily, if that's a word, we sneaky need a defense of tackle, man, to replace Asian Robinson.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know we got there at Brown, you know, which is a beast, but I've been think about it, man, that's actually a pretty big law.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: She was our second best, that's a tackle, so some of the top 30 names that I was looking at, you know, Jayden loving or Kaden McDonald,
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, uh, uh, uh, I think his name is Kevin.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just to Joe Bitty, Jr. Kevin, Joe Bitty, Jr.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a few on that man, but give me all thoughts on defensive tackle.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you all feel like that is a need that we haven't really talked too much about, um, but anybody, just a whole deal of man, everybody stay hopeful, keep pounding.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Keep down to Dave get them and say, and you can never have too many hog mollies, right?
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is that the Panthers, well, Aishan Robinson strong player for them, right?
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of expensive for an aging, you know, aging veteran, but they invested a lot or a significant amount in Turk, Wharton, and Bobby Brown, Jr.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: The third of it or no, Bobby Brown, the third.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bobby Brown, which one, whatever, Bobby Brown, um, and that they're going to lean into those guys, but they do have two top, uh, two, um, visits with kind of the 114th, 2112th projection in Chris McClannan and Tyler of Nymidim, Mden.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever, or you know, but the two defensive line and you got to believe that those Might be like the hope dealers say and kind of loading up in there He mentioned some players too that have not actually met just officially yet, but appear to be on the radar because they've been at the pro days And you got to expect him to add Rodriguez who we've heard of interest as well as Anthony Junior a lot of people
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: going around of those names with those players.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So great call.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: VR, the hope dealer always dealing hope.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: CKS, all of this.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: This was fun to me.
• 29:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Panthers, but or hiding, where he did their own little Easter egg hunt.
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they hid a signed jersey of J.C. horn.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe this was today, and in the bushes, and they said, tag us when you find it, and immediately I went to the comments to see if anybody have found it, but I love this comment right here.
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: C.K.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: is armchair QB at Hoover 84 on Twitter said,
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know the exact spot.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't get an uptown right now, but he posted a picture.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you watch the video, it looks pretty close.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Panthers hide in little Easter jerseys around the town.
• 30:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they won't call it Easter jersey, but that is where we're at.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of fun.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's a fun little thing to get people excited and you know, listen, if they can do that whenever we're in town, I don't mind going a little scavenger hunt it'd be it'd be interesting to have them do that for a podcast or so like a little podcast or make it a content creator thing and, you know, let us all and you know, I'm trying to
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: meaning or like one of those little breaking down the field with Thomas Davis is give one of those out to a podcast or final thing on the books Bob Rose actually two quick things and we'll move in on Bob Rose coming on in just a moment to help us from Saints
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: offseason and free agency.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Quick things here.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I saw this.
• 31:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: We've been talking about my favorite guy who has suffered through injury.
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I saw this posted Jonathan Brooks tweeted this.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll never understand how the fan base you play for can not only tear you down as a person and a player but bring your significant other into it.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: The world needs a lot of Jesus.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Amen.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Amen.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I say to you.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: them not real friends fans just people miserable with their own life and ain't got nothing better to do keep going 100 CK fans being problematic to players Jonathan Brooks a star in the making who is dealt with many injuries uh who is brok going after Jonathan Brooks right now why
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's well, I'm worried about who's going after a significant other.
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's probably more like he talked about like that's that's more problematic in my mind.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, it's it's it's every here's the thing is it's just like the internet is going to internet it's not.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's not anything that I think is a personal thing that's coming just for Jonathan Brooks or you know, it's it's happened to J.C. Horn, it's happened to some of the most beloved, you know, players and panther's history and probably still happens to many of them, um, it just to have it be in a situation where you ask to publicly kind of address it, not a great look, but you know, we we can all move on and, you know, hopefully make the best of of his comeback season this year.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Final bit of news, I guess is about what is going to skip it, but you just gave me the segue right away.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: One player that has happened to for the Carolina Panthers, where people fans came after him, andcessantly, was a free agent tied in Ian Thomas, who is signed today.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... with uh... the raiders to a one-year deal uh... seven seasons with carolina getting pillaged on the internet by panther fans um... eentomis uh... uh... man he probably took it on the nose a couple of times on so you can be in all right thanks uh... for hanging out guys now it's time to get where all for bobberos
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sates wire by you blitz podcast man Bob it's been a long time since we've gotten a hangout and it's good to see you know hope you had a tremendous vacation the pictures were beautiful.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well thank you and thank you guys for having me on yet has been too long so glad you give me the opportunity to catch up with y'all you know we we have a love hate relationship with our with our football teams but not the love for what you guys and what you guys do
• 34:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much.
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's been a long time before we get to free agencies.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's it has been a long time.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, no love loss between division rival fans.
• 34:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it is always fun, right?
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's fun.
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a healthy banter in some ways, unless people are jerks.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: But
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Saints with a terrible start last year to the season where that offense just could not do anything and so much so that the defense even people were starting to think was not as good as it was.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: But man, you put in a quarterback change, a little late in the season and the defense as long as they don't have to play 98% of the game turned out to be really dang good and the Saints made it run.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about the season?
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it felt like a mirror a little bit with some of the panther season some bit and it's just that slow start, but
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Very difficult, but the team really rallied around in, I mean, I was listed a podcast in the guys where like, man, this coach states that he's supposed to be an offensive guy, the offense kids do anything and they couldn't through six games and then boom, it put in shook and it goes bananas.
• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about last year's season, the Saints?
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Overall.
• 35:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll tell you, it was probably the funnest six and 11 season.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could imagine, you know, the team showed so much heart and quite a bit of talent considering their injury hits down the stretch, like you said, you know, that this
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: This felt like a more fun team to cover, fit at any point during the Dennis Allen era.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And even the last couple of seasons under Sean Payton, you finally felt like, okay, this team has a young core to build around.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now don't get me wrong, there's still work to be done.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I am far from crowning this team as a Super Bowl contender.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think with another good draft and if he's free agent signings pan out, you could see the Saints make a push for the playoffs as early as this coming season.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like you said, they put in shock.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's getting a lot of credit and he deserves much of it.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, for how well he played and you know, kind of turn around that team.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: But Chris Alabe, the switch turned on.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Cam Jordan found the fountain at youth and a secondary that had a ton of young pieces and new faces really came together.
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, to be what I felt was the best overall unit on the entire team.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, say this.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think you can you can confidently say that the arrow is pointing up for the Saints.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, still work to be done, but it feels like this team turned the corner as far as momentum and rebuilding is concerned.
• 37:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, most important question the night for me important overall is, how do you say Tyler shook his name?
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's the shock?
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Shut.
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Shut.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, shuck in corn.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Shut.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: A Tyler shook.
• 37:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I mean, it isn't it great.
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I always talk about it's a terrible place to walk through a land without a quarterback.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like a land without a quarterback is an awful place to be and just being in the land with a quarterback is a better place that you can then go forward.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: How much of.
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm impressed where you would tell a shock and a little agey they say oh that's been in every draft just like 5 he's been in college for 10 years or whatever but boy really turned it on what do you think of them?
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, first of all, wouldn't you guys sell your soul to be called old at 25?
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's a young man.
• 37:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 38:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I loved Chuck's film coming out of Louisville.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I loved watching his film at Texas Tech too.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I really liked him as a prospect coming in.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know a lot of people were downgrading the age and the injury history that he had in college.
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and
• 38:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, to take my own jab at the internet experts and the one to be, you know, GMs at home because I caught the last part of your segment while I was waiting Everybody feels like they're a draft expert you guys get it in your and your line of work to and I was having arguments with so many people during this draft process I'll we want to quarterback we want to quarterback but not that one
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, oh, wait a minute.
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Helen Moore's a new head coach.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Helen Moore's run in the offense.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: If Helen Moore believes that Tyler shook is the guy, is the guy he wants to take his offense to the levels that he wants him to go to, then who are we to argue?
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, Chuck certainly did that.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, kids showed a ton of guts, ton of, you know, very good pocket awareness.
• 39:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the arm strength wasn't a question coming, you know, coming into the league.
• 39:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, remember, guys, he did all this without Alvin Camara, without Rashid Shahid, Devon Vailay went down after two or three games, you know, when they looked like they had a good rapport.
• 39:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: He basically did it with Chris Alave, John Johnson, and a cast of street free agents and practice squad players.
• 39:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not ready to say the shock is the next Hall of Famer or anything like that.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He certainly still has work to do.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're talking about less than half of a season of a body of work.
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like you said, there are only two categories of NFL teams.
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: One that has your franchise quarterback and one that's desperately looking for a franchise quarterback.
• 39:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: and it's so nice not to go into this draft, thinking the Saints need to draft a quarterback and my God, the quarterback prospects are slim thickens.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: What are we going to do?
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are they going to take a roll, the dice on this guy, or that guy, or sign another street free agent?
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: So at least, kind of, you don't believe in.
• 40:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the other side of the coin is having a quarterback, not willing to, you know,
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you don't really believe in that guy at all.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, that was the situation that you were in with ret, but really last year, I mean, the year before last, is he came or he wasn't, yeah, I mean, car, car might even be worse just because of the contract that was paid to him for you guys to bring him over.
• 40:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I think that was kind of, would you agree?
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that was where you guys were, ultimately, for the past five years, I mean, since Drew Brie's left, right?
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And even the last couple years of the Breeze era, you knew it was coming to an end.
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You could see his decline on the field.
• 40:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was just so frustrating covering this team.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've seen opportunities go by to draft perhaps his era parent.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: and, you know, just passing up on quarterbacks and, you know, going with the veteran retread such as James Winston, Andy Dalton, Derrick Carr, you know, and, you know, then half and, you know, being forced to turn to a day three pick like Spencer Rattler and hoping you might have the next direct press got or Brock Party.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, that happened so rarely and it was, it was, it really was such an awful situation to be in.
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're talking to the end of the fan.
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we understand that he was not talking about James Winston on this podcast.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: We love him.
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you know what?
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love James.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was rooting for him so hard to succeed.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was the Carolina Tarr Hills used to have that came to play.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: God, who was it?
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Was it that he was a prospect?
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: He can went to that if I think he's a coach or something, but he was the morale coach.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: for the Carolina Tar Hills when they played my EC Pirates and I was like I want James Winston to be the morale coach for the kid for any team for my life.
• 42:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want him to be my life morale coach.
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is when we get to say you're welcome Bob Rose because I believe the Tyler shook.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: first game was against the Carolina Panthers after we had won against Green Bay and we're favored for the first time it felt like it was the first time I had come out and I said well maybe not the first time but first time since last season or the last time I said this is going to be Bryce's coming out party.
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Today is the day.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: We beat a good team.
• 42:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: We got a team that's kind of on the ropes here.
• 42:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: One in six or whatever you guys were at the time and Tyler shook came on in that second half and just put it on the Carolina Parathars.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: didn't get mad mad, but also won't mad at Latham Ransom for just blasted that mug.
• 43:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Boy, what a coming out party, it must have felt good to do against the Division Rival.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it really was, and you know, in knowing that you guys were competing for the Division Championship at the time, you know, and you don't get me wrong, I was rooting for Carolina over Tampa Bay any day of the week, you know, but, you know, yeah,
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: still to still be able to stick it to a division rival and you're kind of put in behind the able, you know, and you know, not only in that game, but then you know, then the Saints got the season sweep later on, you know, it really caused the Panthers to scramble and, you know, they needed to count on a little bit a lot by Tampa Bay losing.
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, I mean, in both games against Carolina, you know, Tyler just balled out and you know, that was for the most part that is the way he played as soon as he got into the lineup.
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, where does he drafted?
• 43:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, second round, uh, pick 40 overall like, you know, 9th, 10th.
• 44:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean, you don't have.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no fifth year option, which of course now fans are bitching about, you know, and even throughout, hey, the Saints made a mistake and not trading up to get shook in the first round last year, and I just, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: You probably would have done that they would have gone nuts.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: That might have been the revisionist history for draft people is always fun.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: The other one you mentioned to draft guys that make draft view nuts.
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: My draft guy that makes it because I don't like the draft anymore.
• 44:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just tired of trying to calculate everything and none of it works out.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the guy that makes me bad is love the player, love the player,
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and my response is if you like the player.
• 44:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why not grab them while he's still there.
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, you trade back to get him.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: You trade back to get him.
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then someone two picks ahead of you take some and then what do you got.
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, that's one of the real uh huh worth a 48 not a 46 right and that might be okay to talk about in the first rounds.
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'll give you a little second round.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: But when we're a pick 116.
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's the difference between 1-10, 1-16, and 1-50?
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the same.
• 45:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or your team picks a running back, you know, when you might be loaded at the running back position in the fifth or sixth round, and they say, what, you know, why are they wasting a pick?
• 45:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, look, when you're picking in day three, you're picking nothing but value and potential.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, screw the position.
• 45:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say, you know, I want to train this.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just to be talking about the season.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll say this much.
• 45:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're at the end of the season.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: It became pretty clear to us.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Number one, the Panthers, obviously were the jackal and, you know, high type of every week.
• 46:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, every week last year.
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was one week.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: We could we couldn't be stopped the next week.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, our offense couldn't muster more than, you know, 150 yards overall and then the other times when our offense could do something in those mad, bad weeks, it was our defense that looked like they just couldn't stop a nose bleed.
• 46:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was just we couldn't get in consistency, but they're towards the end.
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: We were always joking.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was pretty clear to us.
• 46:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: The two people that were the two teams that were in the running for the NFC South were not the better teams in the NFC South.
• 46:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, because the Falcons and the Saints began playing exceptional football toward the end of the year Yeah, they play if those two clubs had played that well throughout the year I don't think there was a doubt that they were gonna be the ones fighting for the division there at the end But that leads me to my next question because that does mean there's a lot of upside you guys are have come into this offseason with a lot of Optimism and I think there's a lot of people that have like this
• 47:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: They think the saints maybe have like one of the quietest like best off season, you know, free agencies of any of many teams in the NFL and I look and I don't disagree because I do think you guys got a lot of pieces and built your team from a depth perspective and it wasn't it wasn't hand, you know, wasn't handcuffing you with what you had because you were already dealing with a lot when you look at who you guys brought in.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just wanted to ask you I know it was a long way to get to this point, but who is the most exciting edition so far this offseason for the Saints and who do you think has the biggest impact?
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean the it's easy answer would be you know Travis ATN at the artist the running back formally known as at Travis ATN because it now wants to be called a chant.
• 47:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah that's the easy right and I got your back on that one.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: You should have said that five years ago.
• 47:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I got your back on that one.
• 48:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the easy answer and I do think he's going to do some exciting things.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the signing, the addition I'm most pleased with is David Edwards, the guard from the Buffalo Bills.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a guard offensive guard was still as a gaping hole.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: As long as Cesar Ruiz is on this football team, there is going to be a giant freeway into the backfield where number 51.
• 48:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: The left card spot has been a literal revolving door for the last four or five years, and as long as Edward stays healthy, that gives you an upgrade and past protection, run blocking for sure.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: You put him next to, you know, Calvin Banks a really exciting left tackle last year, and hope that Eric McCoy stays healthy at center.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about a pre-formitable left-handed football team now.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, yeah, ATN, he's going to do some exciting things.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to see what Kelly Moore does with him.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, yeah, then bringing back Caden Alice.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: You not only weaken a division rival and the Falcons by doing so, but they move very decisively.
• 49:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: to replace the loss of DiMario Davis.
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now I think Davis is heads and shoulders still a better player than Ellis.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But Ellis could do some things for this defense and I don't think you're going to see a major drop-off at the Limebacking Corps because Brandon Staley and outstanding defense of coordinator.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to know how to shuffle Ellis and last year's rookie Danny Stutsman
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I might not be as complimentary as C.K.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: was, is that I'm not super scared of Etienne.
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a good player.
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if, you know, have you seen the best of them?
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm also just still so scared of Alvacamara for the years.
• 49:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then like I'm like, okay.
• 49:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: But.
• 49:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: You guys have had a lot of, you do the Voodoo cap stuff every year, you were behind.
• 50:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think you were over the cap, I mean, it was the cap was impossible.
• 50:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I guess, did you really, was this a great, good or great or good free agency?
• 50:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I guess you could look at that two ways is great with what you had to use and play with or good overall.
• 50:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm going to grade the free agency signings, the overall free agency moves on an ABC grade, I'm going to give them a BB plus I don't hand out A's easily.
• 50:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because like you said, CK, you needed a running back.
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got one of the better ones on the market.
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You needed a guard.
• 50:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got one of the better ones on the market.
• 50:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You moved decisively to fill Davis's hole with Alice, a proven starter, a proven producer.
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, this is a luxury, too.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're now going into the draft saying, oh my God, we need to draft a running back and we need to get it taken care of as soon as possible and you're not thinking that at guard and you're not thinking that at linebacker.
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, could they add pieces at any or all of those spots?
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you're not forced to now.
• 51:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can address other team needs.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think the Saints missed the boat.
• 51:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Add drusher and I know cam is still out there and I would not be surprised to see cam come back But you know you still need an ad drusher.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: You lost a long-tailer and you didn't really do anything back in the secondary to fill that hole I think the saints are banking on you know again Both of these needs ad drusher and corner back their positions that in the draft at least on paper I feel is pretty strong and You know you can
• 51:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: you can address those early while not feeling like you're ignoring running back guard linebacker because you already got those needs checked off.
• 52:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: What tell us what's going on with Cam Jordan?
• 52:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I think's going to happen.
• 52:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cam, I can like to make it sound like it's about the money and he's throwing a lot of comments out like I just want to be paid what I feel like I'm worth.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: At the very core of it, Cam's a competitor and he wants to play.
• 52:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's looking at the saints who are here in the chiefs.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, have some strong interest.
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have no doubt that the Denver Broncos have strong interest.
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I've heard Arizona Cardinals too.
• 52:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cam has the luxury of sitting back waiting to see what these teams do in the draft.
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if
• 52:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: any or all of those teams don't grab an eddresser with a first or a second round pick.
• 52:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now all of a sudden, they're need for an eddresser, for an established eddresser, like Cam Jordan goes up, therefore.
• 53:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: the price tag goes up a little bit uh... you know so i would be a little bit surprised to see cam signed before the draft uh... if it if he signs anywhere before the draft it's going to be to come back to new Orleans and finish out his career but i think cam the business man is sitting back saying exactly what i just said to you guys waiting to see how the draft plays out and he'll find a landing spot probably within less than two weeks afterward
• 53:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I was good.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say I wouldn't be shocked if he does the Geneva and clowning thing and just waits till middle of training camp.
• 53:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: He could have been to go to that whole process.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what a lot of veterans do, right?
• 53:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, no, he very much could because I mean, he's I'll be entering his 15th year and up until the last two years.
• 53:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's always played at least 80 to 85 percent of the snaps.
• 53:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of beating on a body, you know, so.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think one of the reasons why Kim was so productive last year is Brandon Staley kind of limited his usage, not necessarily a specialized past Russia, but just cut down on his overall snap count.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so yeah, yeah, save him wearing terror on the body and you know, waiting until early training camp or just before training camp to sign, that'd be another business decision and yeah, Kim's a smart guy, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't, I mean, my Kevin's did sign with the 49ers, you know, I mean, it's like, is there is, I mean, I guess there's a time for these players to move on to another team.
• 54:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, I Cam Jordan has always been with those guys as I hate them, but I wish he was on my team.
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 54:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got like him.
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like I like don't like him, but I do secretly like him.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, tell you this Bob is right now.
• 54:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got a ESPN.
• 54:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: You look at the futures for the NFC South.
• 54:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You've got the bucks for plus 150.
• 54:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got the same plus 290.
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Carolina Panthers.
• 55:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: coming third on ESPN plus 320 and the falcons plus 425.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: But if you jump over to Fando, a little shake up there on fam, it's Bucks, Falcons, Saints, Panthers.
• 55:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: We have seen the Panthers a month ago before free agency at the bottom of the pack.
• 55:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: The
• 55:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: at the front of the pack, and where do you think the list is wrong?
• 55:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're panther fans.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we think that we should be at the bottom.
• 55:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know, and you shouldn't be.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, first of all, we live in the NSC South and the Falcons are always going to Falcons.
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they are always going to be at the bottom of the list.
• 55:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I don't see how
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: how any analyst could think otherwise with what the Falcons have done and not done this off season.
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the the Panthers frankly are getting a lot of disrespect.
• 56:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, yeah, they didn't make any splashing moves Carolina didn't outside of Jalen Phillips.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: My opinion, Devon Lloyd, the most overrated linebacker and free agency, yeah, yeah, and there were a lot of reports that had Devon's decision coming down to New Orleans or Carolina.
• 56:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was praying to be you guys.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He has all the open field agility in the world.
• 56:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he takes a lot of poor angles to the football.
• 56:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I question his instincts and his overall awareness.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I see the logic behind the signing and I saw the logic behind the saint's interest in him too after losing tomorrow.
• 56:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: To me, I think the biggest signing you guys had was Jane one Phillips.
• 56:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I can't believe the disrespect.
• 56:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: the Carolina is getting from the national media because you're talking about a pretty young team that just won the NSC South albeit not with a great record but they push the Rams right to the end you know and in the playoffs it looks like brace young yeah yeah yeah one incredible catch
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and yeah, you're you're talking about a quarterback in Bryce Young who a lot of people feel finally is turned the corner.
• 57:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: The, you know, the defending rookie of the year in Tent McMillan and outstanding receiver.
• 57:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand the disrespect to me.
• 57:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Before the, yeah, this is pre-draft mind you.
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Carolina and New Orleans are the teams to beat in the NSC South.
• 57:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sending.
• 57:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, very much is sending.
• 57:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tampa Bay looks like a team in transition.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Tampa made the box made a flurry of moves.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested to see how quickly all those pieces are coming together.
• 57:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because some of those moves, you know, makes the team younger.
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, if they work out, but that's always a big if when you push all your chips in the middle of the table and free agency.
• 58:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I would rather be in the position.
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: of what the Saints were, of what the Panthers were saying, you know what, we're going into free agency targeting these needs with these specific players.
• 58:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: If we get them great, now we'll focus on the draft, you know, Tampa Bay looked like they were banking a lot more on free agency.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: See, Katie, you got another question before we do the head coaching ranking.
• 58:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, no, let's actually go into the head coach.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think that's interesting about this.
• 58:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: We found this.
• 58:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is what we talked about earlier in the show.
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, John, friend, cello, uh, CK says the internet.
• 58:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, dude, but, uh, at NFL.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I'm not from a familiar with him that all that much.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, he put out his coach rankings for the 32 NFL teams.
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Carolina Panthers, shooting up the right.
• 58:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dave Kennellis, number 12.
• 59:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kevin Moore, 13.
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of love for the NFC South here.
• 59:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have a buddy that always says you want to make a great list that says sets the internet on fire.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: You put something completely out of place or you leave something off the list entirely.
• 59:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we were looking at this list and we had a couple of names that just we went nuts about and it was not of anybody ahead, but how are some of these guys so far behind are you able to read this at all?
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can you see it?
• 59:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Visual is it too small.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't because I'm getting old.
• 59:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't read that.
• 59:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, let me let me see here.
• 59:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can help you.
• 59:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can assist you if they let me see.
• 59:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, these by focusing health.
• 59:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's it.
• 59:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, all right.
• 59:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So here we go, let's just look at the team.
• 59:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this is 12, 12 is the Dave can Alice, 13, Kelli Moore, 14, Raiders, Clint Kubieck, 15, Shane Steiken.
• 1:00:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Eagles Super Bowl Coach, Nick Seriani at 16, Dan Campbell at 17, Ravens Jesse Minter at 18, 19 John Harbob, Bills Joe Brady, 20, Mike McCarthy, 21, Brian Shottenheimer for the Cowboys at 22.
• 1:00:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Zack Taylor, Todd Monkin, 25 Commanders, Dan Quinn, Mike LaFlor, this is where we went nuts on the list, 26 and no, 27 and 28.
• 1:00:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jeff Hathley, the dolphins had coaches been ranked 27.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: While Charger's head coach Jim Harbaugh is at 28, this is the plant.
• 1:00:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: How is he not?
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is the name, Jim Harbaugh, the Harbaugh brothers, both, but Jim shouldn't be a head, like I would not be up.
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would be like, man, put him ahead of Canalus.
• 1:01:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, I love Canalus and I despise Jim Harbaugh as a human being.
• 1:01:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: but you cannot deny that Jim R. Bach and Coach of football team, whether it's college or pro.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I don't understand those rankings.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But now, Kelly Moore at 13.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Little high, don't you think?
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do.
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, you can't, Kelly and impressed me down the stretch.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, keep in that team together after such an awful, awful start.
• 1:01:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of galvanizing them.
• 1:01:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: enough can't be said about how well this team played when you're talking about street free agents and practice squad players at wide receiver running back and a couple of spots on the offensive line.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I thought Kelley Moore didn't now standing job, but yet to rank him in the top half at the league, I think it's a little bit too early to do.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: So anxious to see,
• 1:02:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: what he can do with a full off season under his belt.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, because remember, he got hired late in the process because of the equal Super Bowl run.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so, you know, he really couldn't get the work in free agency and, you know, draft scouting, you know, and so weeks after a lot of teams had already finished up their jobs.
• 1:02:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so with a full off season of putting his program into place, I'm looking forward to seeing what Kalamor can do, but yeah, 13 to me is a little bit too high right now.
• 1:02:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Here's a little throwback for you.
• 1:02:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ben Johnson is number four ahead of Andy Reed, Mike Rayble, Demiko Ryan's, but Demiko Ryan's is ahead of Sean Payton.
• 1:02:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I guess this is about the future, not the past.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I can kind of understand that, you know, but, you know, Fran, Fran, shella's famous for, you know, for putting, I'm not gonna say bogus rankings or bogus opinions, but, you know, you could tell who he likes personally and who he doesn't, I'll just lead out at that.
• 1:03:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I was saying.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: That was my entire thing.
• 1:03:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like this has does not do anything for my blood pressure at all.
• 1:03:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just because this source is 100% coming from somebody who who's entire existence online is to try to get reactions like we're giving this guy right now.
• 1:03:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dave can now.
• 1:03:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's way too high if in my opinion, according to some of those other names and coaches who have never had coached way too high on that list.
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: for me.
• 1:03:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but that it is a it's a great list according to my buddy is you put a couple of names out of order and leave a couple of people off and pour you get people talking about it on podcasts.
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bobberos with, uh, bioblits and, uh, saints wire, right?
• 1:04:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been a while.
• 1:04:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was, you know, two two employers ago is the last time we talk.
• 1:04:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
• 1:04:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
• 1:04:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I had it wrong earlier today when I was thinking about what we were going to be plugging.
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad to check it out the last second.
• 1:04:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It has been a while.
• 1:04:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we were back now at that.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's going to be a big push of us doing a lot of connecting with.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Division and Division talk because it's the NFC South and we're so close Bob, thanks so much for your time and I appreciate you coming on can you plug where you're at what you need to get plugged in, go enjoy your family.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it'd be my pleasure.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, first of all, you know, Tony, C.K., I'd like to have you both on the buy you blitz to, you know, certainly during the regular seasons.
• 1:04:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as we lead up, but yeah, but yeah, let's stay in touch in the off season too.
• 1:04:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to, you know, folks, you can follow my work.
• 1:05:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: My written work.
• 1:05:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do entrenched with the saints' wire now.
• 1:05:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a USA Today publication.
• 1:05:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: It can be found on all platforms.
• 1:05:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I also post all my articles and I'm doing a lot of draft analysis pieces Tony know as know me for years So we know as I do this like mad You're crazy for it.
• 1:05:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I am and I you you could see the black circles under the eyes And the yeah is that the draft ages me greatly every year and it's a frustrating process too because you know
• 1:05:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've done film study on, and I, as my co-hosted by you Blitz, Brandon says I do it old school.
• 1:05:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm my handy-dandy notebook.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've done film analysis on 110 prospects so far.
• 1:05:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Knowing damn well that my team might get two of them.
• 1:05:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: maybe if I'm fortunate.
• 1:05:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I do.
• 1:05:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I post all of my written articles on my social media platforms, which is Bob Rose on Facebook, have Bobby R. 26, 13 and catch our show too.
• 1:06:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's called the Bayou Blitz.
• 1:06:07
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• 1:06:11
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• 1:06:16
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• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, oh, I do have one, actually one question since you brought up the 117 prospects.
• 1:06:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: We are, I have every year of historically gotten less interested in the draft because of the speculation and it not work.
• 1:06:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It like only 1% of it turns out, 5% turns out, right, maybe 1% of that 5% matters.
• 1:06:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: What we think going off is the 30 visit.
• 1:06:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think the actor like the how often do you think teams have drafted a player that haven't they haven't met with in the top and those 30 official visits do you think that is fair for us to say that most teams pick players that they've met.
• 1:07:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and the later rounds for sure, uh, but a lot of the early round prospects, you know, the meetings get done, uh, and the research has already been done, but the, you know, the one-on-one meetings get done at the scouting combine, the pro days, things like that.
• 1:07:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'll use the Saints for an example.
• 1:07:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of their, uh, you know, pre-draft visits, and you know, of course, you're going to have the carnelteates and the David Daly's and the, you know, the top echelon in there.
• 1:07:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I've noticed that a lot of the pre-draft visits to St. have had last year and this year are projected midday two to day three picks.
• 1:07:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that tells me, you know, the Kellin Moore, Jeff Irland, the head of Scouting, you know, Mickey Loomis, all those guys.
• 1:07:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're looking at the depth of this draft.
• 1:07:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: and you know what kind of character, what kind of leadership they, I mean obviously you have a whole team of people doing film studies, but you know you also want to find out about the character or some of these guys that you're going to be drafted in the second third, fourth, fifth rounds.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's how teams get their draft sleepers.
• 1:08:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know so, does that necessarily mean that they will pick?
• 1:08:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, these mid-round guys that they're visiting with, I mean, you know, no, of course, not because they might even might not even be on the board when they get the opportunity.
• 1:08:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think I'll, especially a lot of the high first round picks, you know, Fernando Mendoza, the Raiders don't really need to meet with them because they know that they're going to pick him.
• 1:08:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: for lack of a better term, and you know, this is what Sean Payton's famous for.
• 1:08:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, disguise, or if this guy is available in three, four or five years as a free agent, let's look back at our meeting with him during the pre-draft process.
• 1:09:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's, you know, let's see how much we like him.
• 1:09:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sean Payton was famous for doing that.
• 1:09:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I think a lot of NFL teams go into these draft visits with that kind of mindset too.
• 1:09:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent stuff.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks Bob for your time tonight.
• 1:09:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Take care guys.
• 1:09:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk to you awesome stuff right there.
• 1:09:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Check out Bob Rose and his working.
• 1:09:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd tell you this is CK is boy.
• 1:09:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: What a little nugget there.
• 1:09:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let me see if I can get that because now it makes me look at this list right here a little different.
• 1:09:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because if you notice.
• 1:09:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: There are no kind of top 25 meetings, like some of the names that VR hope dealer had mentioned that Anthony Hill Jr. or the Rodrig is some people.
• 1:09:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Freeland guy, are they saving those meetings for late?
• 1:10:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Will they use them for disguise?
• 1:10:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: But what Bob brings into the kind of
• 1:10:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it breaks a value there is like all of that is in those three four five round picks a lot of those meetings right there yeah yeah I think I think what this again all of these players I do I think that he made raises a pretty reasonable point and I do think that we probably do most of this work.
• 1:10:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: in the, uh, in just for those later rounds.
• 1:10:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I mean, it is, you know, it, it be foolish for them to put, you know, a lot of effort into, a somebody that they have already had a chance to meet up with at the combine or somebody that you've already had a chance to discuss, you know, talk about something.
• 1:10:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:10:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, this is a great example of what he was saying as far as what Sean Payton was doing with regard to getting these guys later on.
• 1:11:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like we talk about, you know, when Dave Canalist took over for the Panthers, he was talking about how they had their meetings with Bryce.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he loved Bryce's, you know,
• 1:11:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: you know, he had a he had a pretty positive reaction to his meetings with Bryce and I think that could have played a point, a part in him wanting to come to the Panthers.
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Another important one too is Bob was very excited or he said that the pick that was the splashiest for the Carolina Panthers was Jalen Phillips and you know what Dan Morgan talked about a lot is how he scouted him in the draft.
• 1:11:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:11:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so what he was saying is those meetings then
• 1:11:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, maybe we don't get them this year, but five years from now, we might be let's learn about this person to see how they develop what they go through and track them for the future, maybe.
• 1:11:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:11:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Interesting.
• 1:11:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess reasonable.
• 1:11:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's, it makes sense.
• 1:11:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I think I would keep an eye on a lot of these names going in the second third round.
• 1:12:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, again, we got that,
• 1:12:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I think you could start to see some of these players come into...
• 1:12:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: coming to play there towards those later rounds.
• 1:12:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if Dan Morgan continued a hit on some of these players, being contributors later on in the draft, I think this draft could be full.
• 1:12:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, could be an opportunity for us to see if he's either just been lucky or if he's actually a guy who can pick some some for lack of a better term, some some dogs.
• 1:12:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: We got one last cat call in the hole, CK, and then we'll get to those ice up picks.
• 1:12:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Final cat call the night.
• 1:12:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: You guys know the number for next week, two, five, two, two, two, eight, 50, 98.
• 1:12:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not this other park, and ice em fools up.
• 1:12:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, John B. Jenkins comes from with your weekly update on alternative football leagues.
• 1:13:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And boy, let me tell you, I'm excited because we have, at by the end of this weekend, we'll have five active football leagues going on at the same time.
• 1:13:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Starting off in the NAL, the once-great Omaha beef are now looking like the Omaha chop beef.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: They are five weeks in and still winless.
• 1:13:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the upstart team playable of punishers seem to be taken at league by storm.
• 1:13:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Moving over to the ISL, my favorite team, the Fisher's Freight's Continutor role.
• 1:13:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: They are now two and one, but are setting up a bunch of high points
• 1:13:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: the Fisher Spray.
• 1:13:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: The UFL is a week two and it is it's super exciting.
• 1:13:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am loving every single game and in fact there's a game calling on right now as of this call.
• 1:13:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know when the call will actually air.
• 1:13:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But as of the call, I believe it's half time and the score is 173 Dallas renegades over Ricky Pro's St. Louis Battle Hawks.
• 1:14:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Matt Corral lost a close
• 1:14:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: weekend, the AF-1 will be playing on VICE TV and on YouTube.
• 1:14:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: The AF-1 is the air apparent essentially to what we want to do as the AF-L.
• 1:14:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: The AF-1 will be the only leagues that still can use the rebound net, the AF-L is so popular for it.
• 1:14:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: None of them use those rebound nets except for the AF-1, and Jeff Fisher is the commissioner of that league, and he owns the Nashville Cat, which is one of the better teams, so you can find that on YouTube and vice-TV, and then I am super excited because my favorite
• 1:15:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oso's Day Monterey, which are owned by, sorry, my favorite team, the Oso's Day Monterey, the Monterey Bears owned by Ryan Kuleal and Blake Griffin.
• 1:15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: They are going to be on ESPN and Disney Plus, and you can watch that game, the first game, at 10pm on Friday night on ESPN.
• 1:15:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's not all a doubt for you right now.
• 1:15:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'm still on, but as always, keep pounding Carolina Panthers, keep
• 1:15:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: go fish and keep telling C3 Panthers podcast this has been John B. J.
• 1:15:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you John B. score update.
• 1:15:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was Renegades ahead.
• 1:15:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: 17 6 against the paddle walks start quarter.
• 1:15:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: or quarter right there.
• 1:15:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
• 1:15:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 1:15:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: CK has been a fun night.
• 1:15:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: We've got one last segment to rock out.
• 1:15:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's the longest run and segment on the longest run and Panthers podcast.
• 1:15:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to thank everybody for their time attention and energy.
• 1:16:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be here on Tuesday night.
• 1:16:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget the draft party on Thursday night April 28th.
• 1:16:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe is the date.
• 1:16:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: to look forward to as we hang out and uh secret need news uh Cody Lack might be hanging out with us for the draft night uh yeah how about that uh so uh all right now he is stumping for Dexter Lawrence trade uh trade the number 19 pick for Dexter Lawrence right there Cody Lack with all the great opinions look forward to hanging out with him thanks for hanging out with us let's
• 1:16:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's our homage to Steve Smith where we tell someone to ice up tough enough to get it together.
• 1:16:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really don't have the kind of the tiptoeing of ice ups I would do with the world calamity.
• 1:17:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to avoid it because I don't know if like how far the internet watchers are censoring or so go America.
• 1:17:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And other than that is a
• 1:17:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: How about, oh, actually this isn't so much an ice up is how the stock market has survived and had a good week.
• 1:17:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but it is.
• 1:17:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So unemployment numbers are pretty good right now and stocks are a hold and strong, which is, but Anna's, if you go to the pumps, EKG got anything for us in the ice up factor.
• 1:17:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll let you go first.
• 1:17:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 1:17:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just, uh,
• 1:17:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, this is more of a celebration.
• 1:17:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Also, I don't know if it's an ice, it was ice up.
• 1:18:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I set to this guy right here.
• 1:18:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Take your shirt off and fight a guy.
• 1:18:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is the second front kick I've put.
• 1:18:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let me see, hold on on the show and a while.
• 1:18:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: We did the what that I didn't believe was that we thought as I please say this is real in the AI generated.
• 1:18:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, make sure the sound is off because I have no idea.
• 1:18:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not listening to any music.
• 1:18:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:18:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's up music.
• 1:18:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:18:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 1:18:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm ace and up.
• 1:18:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Take your shirt off guy.
• 1:18:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: To, um, fighting.
• 1:18:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: but not wearing a suit.
• 1:18:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Take your shirt off, guy.
• 1:18:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, oh, guys, can you hear that dang music?
• 1:18:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want that.
• 1:18:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Here we go.
• 1:18:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if this works.
• 1:19:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Take your shirt off, guy.
• 1:19:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: About to get the business here.
• 1:19:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look at this guy, Ves, no suit boots.
• 1:19:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hit the low front kick to the leg.
• 1:19:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, in the front kick.
• 1:19:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: destroyed.
• 1:19:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: He got destroyed.
• 1:19:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: This, uh, look at the, the loaf.
• 1:19:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, uh, I said to take your shirt off, guys.
• 1:19:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, fighting vested dude in skinny jeans.
• 1:19:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Always bad combo there.
• 1:19:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
• 1:19:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
• 1:19:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, my ice up is going to be more personal.
• 1:19:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it also is going to be a
• 1:19:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 1:19:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm icing up the bat daddy for not coming onto the show.
• 1:19:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: or have it a conversation with his boys about his new engagement, which he celebrated this past Easter, and we need to know who this lady is.
• 1:20:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought I'd talk to him a while back and knew that this could be on the horizon,
• 1:20:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: full ice anyway.
• 1:20:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations to Greg for a new engagement has not a tragedy and rebuilding a life with somebody else that he's found love.
• 1:20:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Wake there's a lot of people who go their entire lives and not finding any love but be able to do fine two relationships.
• 1:20:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: that end in, you know, hopefully will result in marriage is rare and certainly want to congratulate him and wish him the best movement for with that and really hope that all the C3 gets invited to that wedding so we can show up and just.
• 1:21:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, have a bachelor bachelor party or whatever we need to do.
• 1:21:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: She got a great one.
• 1:21:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: She got a great one in Greg.
• 1:21:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Good.
• 1:21:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Great there.
• 1:21:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: And congrats to our brother, the bat daddy, the stat daddy, look very happy and celebrate that moment.
• 1:21:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we celebrate it with you with a cup of one way we're celebrating is given you a nice.
• 1:21:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: How about that Greg?
• 1:21:26
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• 1:21:27
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• 1:21:28
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• 1:21:32
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• 1:21:33
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• 1:21:40
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• 1:21:41
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• 1:21:45
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• 1:21:47
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• 1:21:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we'll see you next Tuesday.