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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of Today's Washington Post for Saturday,
- 0:05January the tenth of twenty twenty six. You readA resales
- 0:10stainer with the reminder that RADIOI is a program for
- 0:14those blind with other inabilities to read or hold printed materials.
- 0:20And I will start with a front page and all
- 0:24the way across the top inside the global race to
- 0:30find an escape route for Maduro. A Christmas Eve meeting
- 0:35in Vatican City was one of many attempts to secure
- 0:39safe harbor for the Venezuelan Leeda before the US raid.
- 0:48Below that on the left, Officials Way Order on Housing
- 0:53Affordability Administration seeks ways to encourage first time home buyers.
- 1:02And in the middle of the paper below that article
- 1:05of Maduro, a picture of a visual organized by Faith
- 1:11in Action on Friday in Lafayette Square near the White
- 1:16House honoring Renee Nicole Good and it's entitled how Renee
- 1:23Nicole ended up in an encounter with ice in Minneapolis
- 1:29entitled we had whistles, they had guns. To the right
- 1:36of that article and picture are Oil CEO Sphere Risk
- 1:41of drilling in Venezuela. Below that article, scientists found new
- 1:49clues to our female fertility declines with age and to
- 1:55the left of that and below the picture of the
- 1:58whistles and guns. This is war in text UVA board
- 2:05members plot with Youngkin and decrade. I My first article
- 2:13is the top exclusive article for the Washington Post inside
- 2:19the frantic global race to find an escape route for Maduro.
- 2:25A previously unreported Christmas Eve meeting in Vatican City was
- 2:30one of many failed attempts to find safe harbor for
- 2:34the Venezuelan leader before the US raid. And there is
- 2:38a big picture of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro by Anthony Faola,
- 2:45Samantha Schmidt, Hannah Nattinson, John Hudson, Karen de Young, and
- 2:53Catherine Belton of Vatican City. On Christmas Eve, Cardinal Pietrouro Paoland,
- 3:02second in command of the Pope and a longtime diplomatic mediator,
- 3:07urgently summoned Brian Birch, the US Ambassador to the Holy See,
- 3:13to press for details on America's plans in Venezuela. According
- 3:18to government documents obtained by the Washington Post, would the
- 3:23United States target only drug traffickers? He asked, or was
- 3:28the Trump administration really after regime change? Nicolas Maduro had
- 3:34to go. Perolin conceded, according to the documents, but he
- 3:38urged the US to offer him a way out. For days,
- 3:43the influential Italian cardinal had been seeking access to Secretary
- 3:48of State Marco Rubio. The document show, desperate to head
- 3:52off bloodshed and destabilization in Venezuela. In his conversation with
- 3:58birch A Trump ally, Proolan said Russia was ready to
- 4:02grant asylumn to Maduro and pleaded with the Americans for
- 4:06patients in nudging the strong man toward that offer. What
- 4:12was proposed to Maduro was that he would go away
- 4:15and he would be able to enjoy his money, said
- 4:18a person familiar with the Russian offer, adding part of
- 4:23that ask was that President Vladimir Putin would guarantee security,
- 4:30but it was not to be. A week later, Maduro
- 4:34and his wife would be seized by American Special Operation
- 4:38forces in a raid that killed about seventy five people,
- 4:42and be flown to New York to face drug trafficking charges.
- 4:48The previously unreported meeting in Vatican City was one of
- 4:52many failed attempts by the Americans and mediaries the Russians, Kataris, Turks,
- 5:00the Catholic Church and others to head off of building
- 5:03diplomatic crisis and to find safe harbor for Maduro before
- 5:08Saturday's US raid.
- 5:10Speaker 2: To capture him.
- 5:13Speaker 1: It is disappointing that parts of a confidential conversation were
- 5:17disclosed that do not accurately reflect the content of the
- 5:21conversation itself, which took place during the Christmas period, the
- 5:26Vatican Press Office said in a statement to the Post.
- 5:30Virtus spokesperson referred questions to the State Department, which declined
- 5:35to comment. Krimlin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, did not respond to
- 5:41her request for comment. This article is based on interviews
- 5:46with nearly twenty people, many of whom spoke on the
- 5:50condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive talks and intelligence.
- 5:56Speaker 2: It includes new.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Details about the far reaching global efforts to steer Maduro
- 6:01into exile and avoid US military intervention, as well as
- 6:06the Trump administration's decision to work with Venezuela's sitting vice
- 6:10president rather than the opposition leader Washington had long supported.
- 6:16The weeks and months leading up to that day included
- 6:20missed opportunities for Maduro, a former bus driver and one
- 6:24of Latin America's last Cordillos, who appeared unaware of how
- 6:29perilous his position had become. His rejection of multiple possible
- 6:35off ramps, even as US warships began striking alleged narco
- 6:40trafficking boats off the Venezuelan coast and US officials intensified
- 6:45their rhetoric against his government, would ultimately seal his fate.
- 6:51Attempts to secure away from Maduro continued until.
- 6:55Speaker 2: The eleventh oul.
- 6:56Speaker 1: He would receive a final warning just days before the
- 6:59US operation to capture him, according to a person familiar
- 7:03with the offer, but the autocrat refused to budge. He
- 7:07wasn't taking the deal. He was just going to sit
- 7:11there and watch people create a crisis. Another person, Familia said,
- 7:18all the while, the US was homing in on a
- 7:21plan for his successor, leaning into Maduro's number two, delce Roduquez.
- 7:28It was a striking about face for President Donald Trump,
- 7:31who during his first term had sanctioned Rodriguez and her
- 7:35powerful brother Horre Day, seen in Washington at a time
- 7:39as interchangeable members of Maduro's ruling cabal. But a more
- 7:45pragmatic view began to take hold as leading members of
- 7:48the administration questioned the ability of opposition leader Maria Correa
- 7:53Machado to successfully win over the military and on the
- 7:58basis of power long controlled by followers of the late
- 8:01Hugo Chavez, founding father of the country's socialist state. Trump's
- 8:08thinking was partially influenced by a recent classified CIA assessment
- 8:13which concluded that Maduro loyalist would be more successful in
- 8:18running a post Maduro government than Machado and her team,
- 8:22according to his senior White House official and a person.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Familiar with the matter.
- 8:28Speaker 1: The substance of the assessment, first reported by The Wall
- 8:32Street Journal, found that Machado would struggle to overcome pro
- 8:36regime security services, and was relayed to Trump by CIA
- 8:41director John Ratcliffe, the senior White House official said soon after,
- 8:48the official added, Trump settled on Rodriguez as Maduro's successor
- 8:53at the recommendation of his top intelligence and security officials.
- 8:59For years, roder gazz had a public persona as a
- 9:02fiery Chavista, but in one on one encounters, particularly with
- 9:07US oil representatives, she came off as a totally different person.
- 9:12She wasn't anti American. She'd even lived in Santa Monica
- 9:17in her college years, said one person who had repeated
- 9:20conversations with her, adding she was a fatherless thing.
- 9:24Speaker 2: From an idelogue.
- 9:26Speaker 1: There is no indication that roder Gas was aware of
- 9:29the US plot to remove Maduro, and the Trump administration
- 9:33did not tell her that she had become the favorite
- 9:36to take his place. The senior White House official said,
- 9:40it would have been extremely dangerous for us to communicate
- 9:45anything prior to the operation. The official said. Maduro, for
- 9:51his part, seemed to consistently misunderstand the singles from Washington.
- 9:56He believed in November call he had with Trump had
- 9:59gone well, said a person familiar with his thinking, when
- 10:03in fact he was being told his time was up.
- 10:07The President said, you can go the easy way of
- 10:09the hard way, the senior White House official said.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Trump even invited his Venezuelan.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Counterpart to Washington, according to the person, Familia, offering safe
- 10:21passage so they could discuss matters in person. Maduro turned
- 10:25him down. He calculated that the Democrats would win the
- 10:29midterm elections, that Trump would be hamstrung, and that he
- 10:32would cling the power. He was out there dancing, not
- 10:37any more, the person said. Russia and the Vatican, the
- 10:44Russians had long been a spoke in the wheel of
- 10:47international negotiations with Venezuela's isolated government. A decade ago, the
- 10:55Holy See tried and failed to work out a deal
- 10:58between Maduro and the lectured opposition. More recently, the Vatican
- 11:03had sought dialogue with the Venezuelan government through its senior
- 11:07clerics in the country, and Pope Leo the fourteenth had
- 11:12cautioned the Americans against the use of force. I believe
- 11:19violence never brings victory, Leo said in November, after mentioning
- 11:24reports of US warships moving toward Venezuela, adding the key
- 11:30is to seek dialogue. Polan, who had previously served as
- 11:35the Papal Nuncio or Vatican ambassador to Caracas, had a
- 11:39deep interest in Venezuela. He had also served as an
- 11:43intermediary with the Trump administration on Ukraine and Russia. According
- 11:49to a person familiar with the negotiations, Venezuela represents an
- 11:54important foothold for Moscow in Latin America. When Chavez rose
- 11:59to power in nineteen ninety nine, Venezuela made major purchases
- 12:04of Russian weapons, including tanks, Chikhoi fighters, and surface to
- 12:10air missiles. Russia also offered significant lungs to Caracas, provided
- 12:16financial lifelines to help the country whether US sanctions, and
- 12:20remains a player in the Venezuelan oil industry. And there's
- 12:25a picture of Putin and Maduro signing as an agreement
- 12:30in a ceremony following their talks at the Kremlin last May.
- 12:35In his December twenty fourth meeting with Birch, according to
- 12:38the documents obtained by the Post, Poland said Russia was
- 12:42prepared to receive Maduro. He also shared what is described
- 12:46in the documents as a rumor that Venezuela had become
- 12:50a set piece in Russia Ukraine negotiations and that Moscow
- 12:56would give up Venezuela if it were satisfied on Ukraine analysis.
- 13:01Say Russia had already reduced its support for Venezuela in
- 13:05recent years as its focus shifted to the war next door.
- 13:10Loans to help Venezuela by Russian weapons effectively stopped in
- 13:14twenty eighteen. When Maduro visited Moscow in May, he signed
- 13:18a strategic partnership agreement with Putin, but the relationship is
- 13:22viewed by most observers as a more idea logical one
- 13:27than substantive Russia's apparent offer to grant asylumn to the
- 13:33Venezuelan president came amid broader efforts by Moscow to reset
- 13:39relations with the United States and to secure a favorable
- 13:43deal on Ukraine, the documents show. Perlin told Birch that
- 13:49he believed Maduro had been willing to step down following
- 13:52the July twenty twenty four election, which the Venezuelan leader
- 13:57was widely believed to have stolen. He was convinced by
- 14:01then Diostado Cabello, his hardline interior minister, the doing so
- 14:08would cost him his life. Groland said Maduro would have
- 14:12become hesitant to leave without the support was in the circle,
- 14:16according to documents, and was probably concerned about abandoning his
- 14:21top lieutenants, notably Rodriguez and Cabello. The person familiar with
- 14:27the Russian opera, however, said Moscow was also willing to
- 14:31grant a Salomon to the other Venenia Venezuelans, and it
- 14:36appeared that Madua was simply digging in his heels, believing
- 14:40the US would not act. I think it was hubris,
- 14:44this person said. Another factor may also have been at play,
- 14:50the assessment among some in Washington was that Maduro would
- 14:53never go to Russia because it was too restrictive and
- 14:57he wouldn't have access to the money from the Venezuelans
- 15:00gold trade he is believed was dashed offshore. According to
- 15:04a person familiar with the deliberations of the Trump administration,
- 15:08Ferroland suggested the United States could set a deadline for
- 15:12Maduro's exit from the country, the document said, and provide
- 15:16assurances for his family. The cardinal expressed that he was very,
- 15:22very puzzled by the lack of clarity of the US
- 15:25endgame in Venezuela, the documents said. He appealed for patience, caution, restraint,
- 15:33but the White House was done, waiting a new choice
- 15:38to leave Venezuela. Rodriguez, the daughter of a leftist who
- 15:42died in the custody of Venezuela's intelligence services, was a
- 15:46long time senior socialist who rose to the highest ranks
- 15:50under Maduro and became an indispensable figure in his inner circle.
- 15:56As oil Minister, she served as a highland emissary on
- 16:01sensitive foreign missions to Turkey and Qatar, and became a
- 16:05reliable partner for oil interest and other foreign investors in Venezuela,
- 16:11even as she helped Maduro co op democracy and solidify
- 16:16his authoritarian rule. Roger Gaze began gaining the trust of
- 16:21some in the Caracas business community in recent years by
- 16:24retooling the economy, improving the exchange rate, and working with
- 16:29a team of young people, including economists from the government
- 16:34of Rafael Correa when he was Ecuador's president. She received
- 16:39a pushback from inside the Maduro government for her revisions,
- 16:43particularly from First Lady Cecilia Flores and from hard liners
- 16:48in the Shabista establishment who had benefited from the country's
- 16:53entrenched power structure. Officials from Chevron, the only American company
- 16:59Washington had permitted to operate in Venezuela amid US sanctions,
- 17:03met monthly with Rodriguez and spoke positively about her to
- 17:08the US government, including under the Biden administration. A former
- 17:13American diplomat said the Chevron model was working. US officials
- 17:17were told by company representatives and rodri Guaz was granting
- 17:22their wishes. Asked for comment, a spokesperson for Chevron said
- 17:27the company had no advanced notice of the US military
- 17:30operation and did not engage in any discussions with administration officials.
- 17:36Regarding governance for a post Maduro, Venezuela, Venezuelan and business
- 17:41leaders began to push for Rodriguez as a person who
- 17:44could lead a political transition. That consensus seems to have
- 17:50been accepted up in Washington, According to a person familiar
- 17:54with the Maduro government, the vice president had also emerged
- 17:59as an effective mass manager in talks with Guitar, a
- 18:02fellow Opic member and the key intermediary with Venezuela in
- 18:06recent years, Guitar had a lot of frustration with Maduro,
- 18:13who would overrule things to which his Negotas's negotiators agreed.
- 18:17According to a Biden official familiar with the talks, the
- 18:21Katari assessment was that if Roderu Guz says she's going
- 18:25to do something, it gets done. The Guitaries recognized that
- 18:30Delsi should run the country before anybody else did if
- 18:35Maduro was, the former official said. A spokesperson for the
- 18:40Qatari government did not respond to her request for comment.
- 18:46Early last year, Trump's Presidential Envoy for Special Missions, Richard Grunell,
- 18:52took a leading role in negotiating with Venezuela, sometimes with
- 18:56the help of Qatar and sometimes directly with Rodriguez's brother,
- 19:02Jorge Rodriguez, a psychiatrist, a former minister of Information and
- 19:08current president of the country's National Assembly. In those talks,
- 19:14Venezuela repeatedly shot down US proposals from Maduro to leave power,
- 19:19According to a person familiar with the discussions, At one point,
- 19:26the Venezuelan suggested Maduro could step down and stay in
- 19:30the country while rodri Guez took over, the person said,
- 19:34but it was never a concrete proposal, and by late
- 19:39somewhat it became clear that Ribio of Venezuelan Hawk and
- 19:43Grenell rival, who has always favored pressure over negotiations, was
- 19:48taking over the Venezuela foule. Grenell did not respond to
- 19:52her request for comment. During an Oval Office meeting October two,
- 19:57the senior White House official said, Trump and his tap
- 20:00aids discussed how else they could apply pressure on Maduro
- 20:05beyond the boat strikes that have killed more than one
- 20:08hundred people in the Caribbean and Eastern Pacific. Trump applauded
- 20:13Rennell's diplomatic efforts to coax Maduro to step down, but
- 20:17he said it was time for military action, the White
- 20:20House official said. Over the following months, guitar. Received multiple
- 20:25Venezuelan requests for talks with the United States, according to
- 20:29a person familiar with the outreach, but the Trump administration
- 20:33indicated it was not interested. Unofficial emissaries fill the void.
- 20:38They included Brazilian billionaire Hoseley Battista, who arrived in the
- 20:46Venezuelan capital in late November on a mission to persuade
- 20:49Maduro to leave power. Among the points discussed that day
- 20:54was a plan for the president to step down. According
- 20:57to three people for media with the meeting, Maduro was
- 21:00given an offer to go into exiled to Turkey or
- 21:03another willing country, to the people said. The Turkish embassy
- 21:08in Washington did not respond to a request for comment.
- 21:13A potential a solemn deal for Madua and Turkey had
- 21:16been in place since at least November, according to the
- 21:19person familiar with Trump administration deliberations, including guarantees that he
- 21:25would not be extradited to the United States, but the
- 21:30now jailed former leader and his wife indignantly pushed back.
- 21:34Speaker 2: The three people said.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro had multiple opportunities to avoid this. Rubio said
- 21:43during an appearance with trumpet mar Lago on Saturday, he
- 21:48was provided very very very generous office and chose instead
- 21:53to act like a wild man. Chose instead to play around. Batista,
- 21:59a beef mag that with business interests in both the
- 22:01United States and Venezuela, had previously acted as a middleman
- 22:06in negotiations over tariffs that Trump had imposed on Brazilian goods.
- 22:11He arrived in Caracas with a list of four points,
- 22:14including insistence on American access to rare metals and oil,
- 22:19a break with Cuba, Venezuela's longtime allah, and Maduro's departure
- 22:24from the country. According to a person familiar with the meeting,
- 22:28After the trip, Batista relayed his takeaways to the Trump administration.
- 22:33The senior Writereos official said he was not working at
- 22:37the behast to the United States, the official said, but
- 22:42it took his findings into consideration. Roder Guz knew that
- 22:47according to the constitution, she would take over on an
- 22:50interim basis in the event of a Maduro exit from
- 22:54the political stage. According to a person in contact with
- 22:57the Venezuelan government, when the issue was brought up, she
- 23:01would become uncomfortable, the person said. In the end, though
- 23:07she would have no say.
- 23:08Speaker 2: In the matter.
- 23:10Speaker 1: A sidelined opposition leader. As momentum built around the idea
- 23:16of working with Rodriguez, US officials began to sour on
- 23:19the prospect of a future government led by Machado, Venezuela's
- 23:24most prominent opposition leader and the winner of the twenty
- 23:28twenty five Nobel Peace Powers. In recent weeks, influential business
- 23:33executives in Venezuela and even other members of the country's
- 23:37opposition movement had worn the United States that Machado had
- 23:41not made enough inroads with the armed forces, the ultimate
- 23:45arbiters in Venezuela, and would not be capable of gaining
- 23:49their trust. According to additional US government documents obtained by
- 23:53the Post, in conversations with US diplomats about her plans
- 23:58should Maduro suddenly leave, those documents show Matado's team expressed
- 24:04a belief that most of the military would fall in line,
- 24:07and it had assured military contacts he would avoid a
- 24:10broad courage of troops. Her advisers told US officials they
- 24:14would not need to prosecute more than a few dozen
- 24:18regime figures, but they also made clear the top Maduro
- 24:21officials would have no place in a new government. In
- 24:26the documents, US officials described discussions with other contacts who
- 24:31expressed skepticism about the inrods Machado's team claimed to have
- 24:36made with the armed forces.
- 24:38Speaker 2: One member of the Venezuelan.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Opposition said there had been no conversations between her representatives
- 24:44and military officers. The contact worried in that event of
- 24:48Maduro's abrupt Detruccia departure, a Machado led government with flounder
- 24:54and the face of immense challengers. Machado's team did not
- 24:59respond to requis us for comment. In the aftermath of
- 25:02maduro seizure, the opposition leader has sought to assuage Trump,
- 25:06including offering to give him her Nobel Peace Prize and
- 25:11award he is openly coveted. Her decision to accept the prize,
- 25:16people close to the White House have said, contributed to
- 25:20Trump's decision to turn against her. Machado is expected in
- 25:26Washington next week. The President told Fox News on Thursday.
- 25:30I look forward to saying hello to her, Trump said,
- 25:34adding that it would be a great honor to accept
- 25:37her award. In the documents, US officials included an analysis
- 25:43that now seems prescient, Shudebdureau suddenly depart the scene and
- 25:49other senior Chavistas were to stay in power, they might
- 25:53well decide to keep their repressive regime going, to maintain
- 25:57their ill gotten riches and of void the justice that
- 26:01awaits them, they wrote. Rodriguez has driven to consolidate power
- 26:06since Moduro's departure. The facilitating between defiant and conciliatory tones
- 26:13toward Washington authority is fractured in Venezuela, and early signals
- 26:18have been mixed. The detention of journalists and civilians, as
- 26:23well as new checkpoints set up by paramilitary gangs, have
- 26:27been interpreted by analysts as a show of strength by Cavillo,
- 26:31who controls the country's intelligence services and police. The Trump
- 26:37administration remains confident in its decision to back Rodriguez, pointing
- 26:42to Thursday's release of some political prisoners and an agreement
- 26:46to export Venezuelan oil to the United States. We have
- 26:51seen thus far immense deep cooperation with the interim authorities,
- 26:56said the senior White House official, noting that Rodriguez and
- 27:00speak frequently. It was a lesson, said a person close
- 27:05to the Maduro government, that it is not possible to
- 27:08govern Venezuela with Chebizmo at the Vatican on Friday, Leo
- 27:15expressed concern that a diplomacy that promotes dialogue was being
- 27:20replaced by the diplomacy based on force. War is back
- 27:26in vogue, Leo warned, and a zeal for war is spreading.
- 27:33Our next article, Trump officials prepare executive order on housing affordability.
- 27:42More details are expected when President Donald Trump speaks at
- 27:46the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland later this month.
- 27:51By Rachel Siegel and Emily Davies, the Trump administration is
- 27:57preparing an executive order focused on housing, with special attention
- 28:02to first time bias, as the White House attempts to
- 28:06address voter concerns about affordability. An order could include policies
- 28:12that President Donald Trump has already floated, such as a
- 28:16fifty year mortgage or a ban on institutional investors buying
- 28:21signal family homes. According to five people close to the
- 28:25deliberations who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss
- 28:29private conversations, other proposals anewer, like helping home buyers withdraw
- 28:36from their five twenty nine or four oh one K
- 28:39savings accounts to make down payments without incurring tax penalties.
- 28:45The exact timing or language is not final, and plans
- 28:49have been in flux over the past few weeks, the
- 28:51people said, but it's clear the White House increasingly sees
- 28:56housing policy as central to its broader affordability agenda. More
- 29:02details are expected when Trump speaks at the World Economic
- 29:06Forum in Davos, Switzerland Labor this month, according to the
- 29:10president's social media post and housing officials. Bill Putti Pulti,
- 29:16head of the Federal Housing Finance Agency and a close
- 29:21Trump confident, told the White host Washington Post on Thursday
- 29:26that an executive action was coming and would later need
- 29:29to be codified by Congress. We've got thirty to fifty
- 29:34different ideas that are in front of the President. He'll
- 29:37be releasing a handful of them in Davos, Pulti said.
- 29:42Officials have been planning an executive order aimed at hosing
- 29:46for months, but tim installed as different factions within the
- 29:50administration clashed over and approached. Two of the people close
- 29:54to the talks had internal divisions, sometimes boiled down to
- 29:58how much the federal government should tell states and cities
- 30:02what to do. Other disagreements centered on what role Congress
- 30:06should play. White House spokesperson Davis. Ingall said in his
- 30:11statement that Trump had pledged to slash red tape, cut
- 30:15interest rates, and tackle unfair business practices that make it
- 30:19harder for Americans to buy homes. Ingall said, as the
- 30:25President indicated over truth Social he'd be unveiling more details
- 30:30about his hosing proposal in Davos, and a discussion from
- 30:34unnamed sources. Until then is baseless speculation. For much of
- 30:41last year, the administration's policy agenda has involved blaming undocumented
- 30:47immigrants for hosing shortages and clawing back fair housing regulations.
- 30:53Officials also want to take mortgage giants Fanny May and
- 30:57Freddie Mack public after years of government control, a tremendously
- 31:02complicated endeavor that could lead to a massive stock offering,
- 31:07but if not done carefully, role the mortgage market yet.
- 31:13Freshmanmentum appeared to pick up this week after a meeting
- 31:16of top housing in White House officials on Tuesday. Trump
- 31:21announced the man on institutional investors on truth Social on Wednesday,
- 31:26saying he would call on Congress to seal the deal
- 31:29and drawing favorable reaction from GOP lawmakers. On Thursday, he
- 31:35said Fanny and Freddy would use some two hundred billion
- 31:38dollars in cash to buy mortgage bonds, which he said
- 31:42would drive mortgage rates and monthly payments down. Administration officials
- 31:47are also looking at ways to implement portable mortgages, where
- 31:52homeowners can take their old mortgages with them when they
- 31:55move to a new house. The people close to the
- 31:58discussion said they are considering assumable mortgages where home buyers
- 32:04take over the seller's mortgage. Both of those ideas could
- 32:09help offset the rise and mortgage rates over the past
- 32:12several years, and they could also entice homeowners with low
- 32:16rates to sell without fear of taking on a higher mortgage,
- 32:20opening up more supply in the process. Officials are discussing
- 32:25expanding opportunity zones, an economic tool for investing in distressed areas,
- 32:32and other deregulatory policies as a means of boosting home
- 32:36ownership as well. Putie also teed up more actions related
- 32:42to home builders this week, say on acts that they
- 32:46need to start building at their lots supply, including opinioned
- 32:51land optioned land which is ready to go. Builders have
- 32:56been in talks with the administration for the past year
- 32:59on ways to environmental regulations, energy codes, and permitting restrictions,
- 33:05including those that make it harder to turn land from
- 33:08raw to develop a lots and pile on cost, said
- 33:11Jim Tobin, president and chief executive of the National Association
- 33:16of home Builders.
- 33:18Speaker 2: If there is an.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Executive order, I don't expect it to be narrow, Tobin said,
- 33:24I expect it to be broad. But Trump's announcements have
- 33:28come with few details or clarity on Congress's role. Some
- 33:32proposals could also work against affordability goals. Many mainstream economists
- 33:38say a fifty year mortgage would be likely to increase
- 33:41overall costs for borrowers because they'll pay far more in
- 33:45interest over five decades than they would with the conventional
- 33:49thirty year loan. Inside the administration, officials see are too
- 33:54pronged approach to addressing some home prices. According to a
- 33:58GOP posters to the White House, speaking on the condition
- 34:02of anonymity to discuss private conversations, one path is to
- 34:07increase hosing supply through construction. Another is decreasing the number
- 34:12of buyers by removing incentives for investors and making it
- 34:16easier to sell homes without paying capital gains taxes. Under
- 34:21current law, most merit companies can exempt the first five
- 34:25hundred thousand in capital gains on the sale of their
- 34:28primary residents from taxes. White House officials have reviewed polling
- 34:34that shows voters aged eighteen to twenty four sea affordability
- 34:39through a hosing lens.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Said the GOP polster.
- 34:43Speaker 1: That age group will help deliver the presidency to Trump
- 34:47in twenty twenty four, which makes the White House especially
- 34:51sensitive to its political standing with them. The posters said
- 34:55administration officials are focused on first time home buyers, which
- 34:59often are adults forty or younger. This voting cohort, who
- 35:05is deeply concerned about this and worried about housing prices,
- 35:09delivered in a lot of ways the election to President
- 35:12Trump in twenty twenty four. Affordability means housing in every
- 35:17bit of data we've seen, the posters said. The poster
- 35:21expects the final plan to pay the way for Trump
- 35:24to take Fanny May and Freddie Mack public. He also
- 35:27said he expects the administration to play around with a
- 35:31step up in cost basis, a US tax role ruled
- 35:36that adjusts the value of inherited assets to their market
- 35:40price at the time of death, which can reduce capital
- 35:44gains taxes for as that would include taxes on homes.
- 35:50David Dewarkin, President and Chief executive of the National Housing Conference,
- 35:55said making it easier for younger buyers to withdraw from
- 35:59their furrow one US case penalty free will have a
- 36:02bigger impact than Anny down payment program ever proposed. At
- 36:08the same time, the way to make homes more affordable
- 36:10is to build more of them. Everything the President does
- 36:14to help us build more units is going to have
- 36:16an impact, Duckworth said, adding some of these ideas are
- 36:21going to be more impactful than others. Some may have
- 36:24unintended consequences we want to be careful about, but it's
- 36:28too easy to say, oh, this is risky, let's not
- 36:31do anything. We've got to make progress here. Fannie and
- 36:36Freddy's new bond purchases would be part of the strategy
- 36:40around taking them public because the move would add value
- 36:43to their balance sheets and help the companies make more money,
- 36:47but the broader effect on affordability could be more muted.
- 36:52Mortgage rates typically track treasury yields, which fall in times
- 36:57of economic uncertainty. Thursday analysis note grened did T Goldberg,
- 37:04head of US rates strategy at TD Securities said that
- 37:09based on the projections for treasury years, the thirty year
- 37:14mortgage rates could drift down toward five point two five
- 37:17percent by the end of the year, compared with six
- 37:21point sixteen percent this week. But if Anny and Freddie's
- 37:25vast security purchases happened quickly, mortgage rates could tick down
- 37:30a bit more to five percent by year end, Goldberg wrote.
- 37:35Democrats this week criticized the Trump administration for promoting policies
- 37:39those on the left of tribe before, such as banning
- 37:43institutional investors from the single family market, but housing is
- 37:47one of the only policy areas with biportisan support lately.
- 37:52A popular bill from Senators Tim Scott, Republican of South
- 37:56Carolina and Elizabeth Warren Democrat Massachusetts would increase hosing supply
- 38:02and pairback regulations that slow new construction. Its progress slowed
- 38:07late last year after host Republicans pressed to keep it
- 38:11out of the annual Defense Policy Bill, but a similar
- 38:14bill is moving forward in the HOUSSE, and there's hope
- 38:19of breakthrough will come eventually. Scott, who chairs the Senate
- 38:25Banking Committee, said in his statement, my focus is on
- 38:30advancing meaningful solutions that expand hosing supply and lower cost,
- 38:36including building on a unanimously passed road to hosing Act,
- 38:42because that's how we make the American dream more attainable.
- 38:48Next article How Renee Good ended up in a fatal
- 38:53encounter with ice in Minneapolis. Video made public Friday shows
- 38:58this thirty seven years old and her wife exchanging words
- 39:02with ICE officers in the seconds before the shooting. And
- 39:06there's a picture at the beach of Renee Good and
- 39:09her late husband, Timmy mccachlin Junior by Molly Hennessy Fisk,
- 39:18Annie Gowing, Pavena Samusadram, and Kyle Rimpher out of Minneapolis.
- 39:27Renea Colgood had stopped to support our neighbors when she
- 39:32was fatally shot by an Immigration and Customs enforcement officer
- 39:36during an exchange of words on a residential street. According
- 39:41to a statement issued by her wife in video made
- 39:44public Friday, we had whistles, they had guns, Rebecca Good
- 39:50said in the statement. We were raising your son to
- 39:54believe that no matter where you come from or what
- 39:57you look like, all of us deserve compassion and kindness.
- 40:01Good said Renee lived this belief every day. She is
- 40:05pure love. She is pure joy. Renee Good, thirty seven,
- 40:11was shot Wednesday morning blocks from her home by an
- 40:15Ice officer, who federal officials say fired in self defense.
- 40:19Details of the shooting, which was captured in videos widely
- 40:23disseminated online, are in dispute. A recording released Friday by
- 40:28Often News appears to show the moments immediately before the
- 40:32shooting from the perspective of the Ice officer who shot Good.
- 40:36In the video, Renee Good can be heard speaking to
- 40:39an Ice officer through an open window of driver's side window,
- 40:44saying that's fine, dude, I'm not mad at you. As
- 40:48the officer circles her vehicle while filming with a phone
- 40:52camera in his hand. Rebecca Good, who was outside the car,
- 40:57speaks more aggressively, questioning the officer about face masks and
- 41:01license plates. At one point, she says to the officer,
- 41:05go get yourself some lunch, big boy. She soon reaches
- 41:09for the passenger door as the officer tells Renee Good
- 41:13get out of the car. The video abruptly ends seconds
- 41:17later as the car reverses and then moves forward. The
- 41:21video does not show whether the vehicle struck the officer
- 41:25it records, which sounds like shots being fired. Tricia McLachlin,
- 41:30a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security, told Fox
- 41:34News on Thursday that Renee Good was stalking agents all
- 41:38day long, impeding their law enforcement. Asked by The Washington
- 41:42Post what she was basing that description on, McLachlan said
- 41:46the information came from first hand accounts from law enforcement
- 41:50officers who had been in contact with Good. Vice President J. D.
- 41:55Bance blamed Good for her own death, and Homeland Security
- 41:59Christie ill Nomes said Goods actions amounted to an act
- 42:03of domestic terrorism. Friends and family members painted a picture
- 42:08of a couple who came to Minneapolis almost a year
- 42:11ago looking for a place where they and their family
- 42:14could feel comfortable. They said, Renee Good lived a quiet
- 42:18life not shaped by overt activism. Good's family members said
- 42:23they do not believe she was tailing Ice officers. She
- 42:26had just dropped her son off at school before the shooting,
- 42:30they said. Her father, Tim Ganger, said in a brief
- 42:34interview Wednesday that she got caught up in a bad situation.
- 42:39Rebecca Good's statement Friday amounts to the first acknowledgment by
- 42:43her family that on Wednesday the couple were among the
- 42:46Minneapolis residents who have organized to monitor and protest immigration
- 42:51enforcement activity in their neighborhoods. Other videos from witnesses that
- 42:56day show Goods maroon Honda pilot parked in the road
- 43:00as ICE vehicles approached. ICE officers then confront her, demanding
- 43:05that she get out of her car. A frame by
- 43:08frame analysis by the post of the bys Damed of
- 43:11footage Chwel raises questions about administration officials accounts of the shooting,
- 43:17as she bee did move toward an ICE officer as
- 43:19he stood in front of it, but the officer was
- 43:22able to move out of the way and fire at
- 43:24least two of three shots from the side of the
- 43:26vehicle as it veered past him. According to the analysis,
- 43:32Good's family and friends describe her as a devoted mother
- 43:35to her three children, an artist with a prize winning
- 43:38talent for poetry, who had weathered personal difficulties, including the
- 43:43death of her second husband, a military veteran who suffered
- 43:47from post traumatic stress disorder. In her statement Friday, Rebecca
- 43:52Good recalled how Renee sparkled. You might think it was
- 43:57just my love talking, but her family said the same thing.
- 44:00Renee was made of sunshine, Renee was a Christian who
- 44:04knew that all religions teach the same as until truth.
- 44:08We are here to love each other and care for
- 44:10each other and keep each other safe and whole. Rebecca
- 44:14Good said her first husband also called Renee Good's faith,
- 44:19noting that she had taken part in youth mission trips
- 44:23to Northern Ireland when she was younger.
- 44:26Speaker 2: She loved to sing.
- 44:27Speaker 1: And studied vocal performance in college, he said, speaking on
- 44:31the condition of naminimity out of concern for the safety
- 44:34of his daughter fifteen and son twelve. Good grew up
- 44:40in Colorado Springs. She attended Carnado High School, saying in
- 44:46the school's show choir, and participated in a school group
- 44:50called Community Crew dedicated to learning practical skills like cooking.
- 44:55According to the yearbook which she graduated in two thousand
- 44:58and six, Good wie on Best Personality. When I found
- 45:03out that I had won, I was like, this is
- 45:05pretty flipping cool, sweet, she told your book staff. Good
- 45:10attended Metropolitan State University of Denver briefly in twenty fourteen
- 45:15and twenty fifteen. After she and her first husband divorced,
- 45:19he said, Good married timely Timmy Macklin who served in
- 45:24the US Air Force. In twenty nineteen, she began studying
- 45:28creative writing at Old Dominion University in Virginia.
- 45:32Speaker 2: She was his heart.
- 45:34Speaker 1: Her former brother in law, Joseph Macklin, who lives near Knoxville, Tennessee,
- 45:38said of Good in his brother he described her as
- 45:41a great and loving mother. One of her professors, Kent Wasscombe,
- 45:47director of Old Dominion's Master of Fine Arts and Creative
- 45:50Writing program, recalled her as a poet studying how to
- 45:54improve her fiction writing, first in a class and then
- 45:57an advanced workshop. And like some of her peers, Good
- 46:01never talked about politics, Wascomb said, focusing instead on realist
- 46:06fiction about those very different from her, such as an
- 46:11elderly woman and a veteran. She consistently sought to write
- 46:15outside of her experience. She was really a warm presence,
- 46:20but not a show off. She never made a class
- 46:22about herself, even with her work was the focus of
- 46:25a workshop.
- 46:26Speaker 2: He said.
- 46:28Speaker 1: Good was older than any of her classmates, pregnant with
- 46:31her third child and working to pay for school as
- 46:34a dental assistant and at a credit union. Her first
- 46:37husband said, my memory of Renee is how much she
- 46:41tried to connect with her peers and support them. Wiscom
- 46:45said he recalled how Good Lada brought her newborn son
- 46:49to meet him. By twenty twenty, Good and one of
- 46:52prestigious prize from one of her poems, and Ata Wascombs
- 46:56had demonstrated her promise. She graduated with a bachelor degree
- 47:00in English that decemble. In April twenty twenty one, Good
- 47:05met a professional photographer named Charles W. Winslow at an
- 47:08Old Dominion football game that he was covering. He wanted
- 47:12she wanted advice on how to incorporate photography into covers
- 47:17for book projects she had planned. He said she was
- 47:20a gifted student and accompanied him on many of his
- 47:23professional assignments, but he also remembered her kindness as a friend.
- 47:28She was kind hearted in always helping others in need.
- 47:32She didn't care of race, creed color. If she had
- 47:35ten dollars in a pocket, she would give a homeless
- 47:37person nine that she passes on the street, Winslow said.
- 47:42In twenty twenty three, Timmy Macklin died at age thirty six,
- 47:47and Good became primarily a stay at home mom. Her
- 47:50first husband, said, Joseph Macklin said Good made an effort
- 47:54to keep her son in touch with his family back
- 47:57in Tennessee. She always brought him to see us. She
- 48:00was so kind hearted. After she met and married Rebecca
- 48:05Good forty, the couple settled in Kansas City, Missouri, and
- 48:09crafted a quiet life as a gay couple living in
- 48:12a red state. They weren't overtly political, at least among
- 48:16the residents of their peaceful street in the Waldo neighborhood.
- 48:20Their neighbor, Jennifer Ferguson, recalled Thursday, but after Donald Trump
- 48:24was re elected in twenty four, the two broke their
- 48:28lease and told Ferguson they were moving to Canada because
- 48:31of the political situation. Becca said, we're getting it. We
- 48:36can go to Canada until we figure out what we're
- 48:38going to do, Ferguson said. The couple lived in the
- 48:43neighborhood only a short time, but made an impression of Ferguson,
- 48:47forty one and administrative assistant. Becca Good had sold a
- 48:51home improvement business before they moved in, so she mostly
- 48:54stayed home with their son, cooking and mowing the lawn.
- 48:58Renee Good told Ferguson, and she was studying for a
- 49:01master's degree the two families exchanged Christmas treats and their
- 49:05kids played together. She said they were such nice people
- 49:10and great parents to their son then in preschool. Ferguson
- 49:14said both were attentive, quick to enforce rules or stop
- 49:19in activity like splashing in the kiddie pool when the
- 49:22little boy seemed doubly tired. When they moved away, they
- 49:26gave Ferguson their lawnmower after hers was stolen. We always
- 49:31talked about free stuff for the kids, Ferguson said. She
- 49:34asked about a free indoor playground and I said, go
- 49:37to the McDonald's up the street. The couple also asked
- 49:40her opinion about nearby charter schools because her son was
- 49:44about to start kindergarten. They rarely left the house, Ferguson said,
- 49:48except to take the boy to school. They were homebodies.
- 49:52There were also devotees of the w NBA and the
- 49:56Canvas City Current, the local women's pro soccer team. Parenthesis
- 50:01at KC Current sticker was visible on Honda Goods Honda
- 50:05palate in parentheses. The couple moved from Kansas City to
- 50:09Minneapolis in March of last year. Her first husband said
- 50:13they wanted community said Kimmie Hull, a neighbor who on
- 50:17Thursday stood on the porch of the coupled's gray blue
- 50:20two story house next to an inflatable penguin snowband, Christmas
- 50:25tree and we are Southside signs stuck in the snowy lawn.
- 50:30Renee Good's ex husband said Becca Good was getting support
- 50:34from friends and her family and Renet's family. Maclin, Good's
- 50:39former brother in law, said Good's children are hurting and
- 50:43wondering whether this happened, especially the youngest. We just buried
- 50:47his father three years ago and Juni and Ary lost
- 50:50his mother. Macklin said it is definitely a tragedy. No
- 50:54kid should have to go through at such a young age,
- 50:57and to have to see it all over social media
- 50:59intelligivision is sickening. He said that after the shooting, Good's
- 51:04wife contacted his parents. My hurt really hurts for her.
- 51:09I'm praying for her, he said. She's such a sweet
- 51:12and caring woman. Macklin, whose father is a Christian street preacher,
- 51:17struggled to make sense of Good's death.
- 51:20Speaker 2: I wish she would have.
- 51:21Speaker 1: Minded her business and stayed out of the way, he said,
- 51:24but added I know families are being broken apart, and
- 51:28it's heartbreaking, and now it's our family. She was a
- 51:31good mother and a good person, and she didn't deserve this.
- 51:35Her significant other doesn't deserve to be without her, her
- 51:38mom doesn't deserve to be out without her, and they
- 51:42kids don't deserve to be without her. It is truly
- 51:45a tragedy that not just our family is going through,
- 51:48but our nation, he said, and probably the final article.
- 51:56Speaker 2: Inside the paper.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Washington National Opera is moving out of the case Kennedy Center.
- 52:01The Washington National Opera decided Friday to leave its longtime
- 52:05home at the Kennedy Center. The Senate said it ended
- 52:09the relationship by Janey Kingsbury and Kelsey Abbey's or ables ables.
- 52:18The Washington National Opera announced Friday that it plans to
- 52:21leave the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts,
- 52:25its longtime home, a stunning move that follows reports of
- 52:29declining ticket sales for the seventy year old organization amid
- 52:33upheaval at the center since President Donald Trump's takeover. The
- 52:38opera said in his statement that it would seek an
- 52:41amicably early determination of its affiliation agreement with the Kennedy
- 52:45Center and resume operations as a fully independent nonprofit entity.
- 52:52After the Opera's announcement, the Kennedy Center claimed it had
- 52:56ended the relationship after careful consideration, We've made the difficult
- 53:00decision to part ways with the wn due to a
- 53:04financially challenging relationship, a spokesperson wrote in his statement. We
- 53:10believe this represents the best path forward for both organizations
- 53:13and enables us to make responsible choices that support the
- 53:17financial stability and long term future of the Trump Kennedy Center.
- 53:22But a person familiar with the situation who spoke on
- 53:25the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to
- 53:29represent either party, told The Washington Post that the choice
- 53:32was definitely a Washington National Opera decision and that there
- 53:38was consensus to believe, but it's with great regret. There
- 53:42had been concern since Kennedy Center board chair David M.
- 53:46Rubinstein was removed in February and Trump became chairman, the
- 53:50person said, but the board's vote to change the name
- 53:54to the Trump Kennedy Center last month spurred the WNO's
- 53:57decision to leave. The opera said in its statement that
- 54:01the decision was driven by the elimination or reduction of
- 54:05support previously provided by the Kennedy Center, as well as
- 54:09changes to the center's business model, which now require productions
- 54:13to be fully funded in advance, a shift to WNO
- 54:17called incompatible with how opera companies operate. Opera companies typically
- 54:23cover only thirty to sixty percent of costs through ticket sales,
- 54:27with the remainder from grants and donations that cannot be
- 54:31secured years ahead when productions must be planned, the statement read.
- 54:36It also added that the new model conflicts with the
- 54:39opera's artistic mission are balancing popular titles with lesser known
- 54:44works to serve diverse audiences. Francesco Zambello, the opera's artistic
- 54:50director for fourteen seasons, told the Post she was deeply
- 54:54saddened to leave the Kennedy Center. I have been proud
- 54:58to be affiliated with the National Monument to the Human Spirit,
- 55:02a place that has long served as an inviting home
- 55:05for ever growing family of artists and opera lovers, she
- 55:09wrote in an email, adding, in the coming years, as
- 55:13we explore new ventures and new ways of performing, w
- 55:17and O remains committed to its mission and artistic vision
- 55:22to stay on solid financial footing. The opera said it
- 55:25planned to cut back at springs season and relocate performances
- 55:29to new venues, which will be announced in the coming weeks.
- 55:33News of the departure was first reported by The New
- 55:35York Times. The person familiar with the situation stressed at
- 55:40the center is the vision and dream of those who
- 55:43brought themselves out of the darkness of the assassination of
- 55:46a young president. There are an awful lot of people
- 55:50that are offended that the official memorial to President John F.
- 55:54Kennedy is being manipulated. It is not personal to any
- 55:59one president that you just can't do that, they added.
- 56:03They also said that the move came partly in response
- 56:06to criticism of the new Kennedy Center leadership of the
- 56:09previous management's financial stewardship. Frankly, to say that the Kennedy
- 56:15Center was in financial ruin under the predecessor to the
- 56:18current regime is fake, the person said. Describing the opera
- 56:24circumstances since Trump's takeover, the person said the company has
- 56:27been dropping seen dropping attendance, a decline in donor contributions,
- 56:32and especially after the name change, increasing numbers of opera
- 56:36singers and artists who are refusing to perform at the
- 56:39Kennedy Center. A lot of reality is you can't get
- 56:43the artists, you can't get the ticket sales. You're not
- 56:46going to be able to get the support under this.
- 56:49Declines and ticket sales became apparent in the first few
- 56:52months after Trump's takeover. The Post reported in June revenue
- 56:57generated from Washington National Opera, some of PAS descriptions, had
- 57:00fallen fifty percent a year over year through the first
- 57:04ten weeks of its campaign. A Post analysis in October
- 57:09showed that ticket sales had declined across several genres at
- 57:12the Kennedy Center's major theaters, a drop that current and
- 57:16former staffis attributed to audiences being feeling repelled by Trump's takeover.
- 57:23Zambalo had told The Guardian in November that the turmoil
- 57:26was leading the opera to consider moving out of the
- 57:29building Peren. At the time, the opera's board chair denied
- 57:33plans to leave In Perrin, budget constraints had been delayed
- 57:37the opera's twenty twenty six twenty seven season planning, a
- 57:42person familiar with the organization told The Post last month.
- 57:46Another round of artists performers has counseled shows at the
- 57:50Kennedy Center since its bored installed by Trump early last year.
- 57:54Voted in December to add his name to the center.
- 57:57It was on the building's exterior signage the following day.
- 58:02And with that I end the reading of Today's Washington
- 58:05Post for the first Saturday or the second Saturday in January.
- 58:11January the tenth of twenty twenty six. I'll be back
- 58:16on Thursday. Please listen, continue listening to programming on Radio AI.
- 58:21Have a good weekend, and stay warm on Sunday.
- 58:25Speaker 2: Bye.