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- 0:00Hey, I want to welcome you to this episode of the Godly Hacks podcast.
- 0:05And if you're watching, please share, please tell a friend. I want to talk to
- 0:09you today about how to pick the right church and have it look just like the ministry of Jesus.
- 0:15And the reason I want to say this today on the broadcast is because there are
- 0:17a lot of people there in churches that if something bad happened to their kids,
- 0:21you're not going to get the help you need.
- 0:23If your kid gets sick, there's no one who can help you. If your wife doesn't
- 0:26act right, there's no one that can help you. If your marriage is in trouble,
- 0:30you're not in a place where somebody can help you. And I really don't think
- 0:33that Christians understand this.
- 0:35And so I'm going to share with you out of the Bible, how do you follow a minister online?
- 0:40How do you find the right person? I'm going to switch these lights a minute. There we go.
- 0:45How do you find the right person to follow? And what does that look like?
- 0:48All right. So please share. And while I'm waiting for you to share,
- 0:51I'm going to let you hear a little bit of Jonathan Shuttlesworth talk about
- 0:53prosperity because it'll help you in life. Here we go.
- 0:57Spirit of the Lord is upon me for one of the reasons is he has anointed me to
- 1:01preach the gospel to who?
- 1:03That's right. One of Brother Copeland's critics.
- 1:06When I joined up with Brother Copeland, I got him as a fellow critic.
- 1:11And he said, you preach that American gospel. I wrote back to him.
- 1:14This is my third time in Africa. I'm yet to see you there once.
- 1:18You sit behind a computer. How do you preach against prosperity on a computer on a MacBook Pro?
- 1:24Your MacBook Pro is a full year salary in many countries of the world.
- 1:28You drive a car. In 2026, the average human being on earth still drives an ox
- 1:32cart. That's an actual fact.
- 1:35So it's not that people don't believe in prosperity. It's they're too stupid
- 1:38to recognize that God has blessed them.
- 1:41The poorest person in America has climate-controlled sectioning housing,
- 1:45cable television, and Wi-Fi.
- 1:47We live in a strangely blessed nation. That blessing did not come from communism.
- 1:52That blessing didn't come from Islam. That blessing didn't come from atheism.
- 1:56That blessing came from a people that rose up in giving and receiving.
- 2:01And I'm not going to see it flush down the toilet in one generation.
- 2:05God's going to raise up a new army of prosperity-wielding, Holy Ghost-filled,
- 2:10Lord-confessing children of God. You're watching and say, that's me.
- 2:14I'm going to be one of those people.
- 2:16That's me. Somebody say it with me. prosperity means rich means rich like money
- 2:24it means having enough to do no it doesn't.
- 2:28It means rich yeah it means like a lot of money like wads of money,
- 2:33hey if you're listening i know we've got new listeners on the podcast in katsatstan
- 2:37and iraq and iran and wherever you're listening from listen to me i'm going
- 2:42to help you to pick the right church in a minute,
- 2:45but this message of prosperity is also for you.
- 2:48You can have money. It doesn't matter what your government does.
- 2:51It doesn't matter what your family does. If you follow God, he can make you prosperous. Amen.
- 2:57Clip it, put it on your YouTube channel. Nobody watches.
- 3:00That's what it means. Abraham had 318 trained men in his household.
- 3:05When people wanted to go to war, they asked if he could help.
- 3:08He was a nation as a man. The Bible says, all that seek deliverance in Zion,
- 3:14consider the rock from which you were hewn, the quarry from which you were mined, Isaiah 51, 1 to 3.
- 3:20For Abraham was one man when I called him, but when I finished,
- 3:23he became a mighty nation.
- 3:25There's people here that have experienced that. You never thought the day would
- 3:28come where you'd call a staff meeting that was bigger than your revival meetings
- 3:33when you started in the ministry.
- 3:35But as you rise up in that Abrahamic blessing, the Lord gave me that scripture
- 3:39one time, the mustard seed, though it's the smallest of seeds,
- 3:42becomes a mighty tree and birds make their nest in it.
- 3:47I was believing God, my wife's here, to make it to the end of the month.
- 3:50And I was praying, you know, Lord, help me get to the end of the month with
- 3:53this little bit of money. And the Lord said, one day out of that scripture,
- 3:58there's going to be multiple families that make their living off the excess
- 4:03of what's coming into the ministry. And that day is here now.
- 4:06You know, we want to hit 50 employees. I'm just giving you guys a minute to
- 4:09share. Tag of friends. Maybe we could break the ministry up into like Revival
- 4:14Today Media, Revival Today Evangelistic.
- 4:17Then we can split it so we don't have to pay the insurances. I said, just pay it.
- 4:21God knows all the regulations. God is not concerned about any law that's going
- 4:27to be passed or any attempt to hinder or restrict the blessing of God.
- 4:32Everybody that's listening in Texas, God bless you.
- 4:35Everybody that's listening in New York and California and Oregon and states
- 4:39where they're trying to pass laws to make it where you can't rise up in wealth,
- 4:43God's going to go out of his way to show people in those states that no government
- 4:48can stop the blessing of God.
- 4:50You can't bless what God's cursed, and you can't curse what God's blessed.
- 4:55Come on, celebrate it ahead of time.
- 4:57You're going somewhere, whether the devil likes it or not.
- 5:01That's right. The spirit of the Lord is upon me because he's anointed me to
- 5:07preach the gospel to the poor.
- 5:09It takes an anointing to preach the gospel to the poor. That's why you'll never
- 5:12see anti-prosperity people having any evangelistic crusades because it makes no financial.
- 5:20I went to do our first crusade in Philadelphia in a place called Nicetown.
- 5:24It was the second highest crime, second most violent. I'm just letting you enjoy
- 5:27a little bit of Jonathan. I'm getting ready right now. So let me just fast forward
- 5:31this because I want to hear it.
- 5:33He said, what did people get? You feel like you're an imposition.
- 5:36The world is hungry for the gospel of Jesus Christ.
- 5:40The world is hungry for the word of God.
- 5:44The world is desperate for the supernatural touch of the Holy Ghost.
- 5:47Okay. So they had both of them play the lady first and then play the other.
- 5:52And I said, and he said, no, going somewhere.
- 5:55You're not in a group of people that are going to get mad when you get a new
- 5:58car or a bigger house or a bigger church This is a room full of champions that
- 6:03I get ready to stomp on the devil's head with renewed Vicar Tom on number two,
- 6:11Amazon was building this. So it's a good message. Say it so the devil can hear
- 6:13you. I'll never be broke. I'll never be broke. Another day in my life.
- 6:18Hallelujah. Number four, you'll never arrive at prosperity until you become
- 6:22intoxicated with the value of God's kingdom. Second Samuel 7-2.
- 6:27That the king said unto Nathan the prophet, David, See, now I dwell in the house
- 6:32of Cedar, but the ark of God dwelleth in curtains.
- 6:35Why am I living in a nice house where God's house looks like garbage?
- 6:41Amazing how many pastors you, you know, I met a pastor and he said,
- 6:44can you believe with me for a building for the church? He'd been there a while.
- 6:48He said, we're meeting in a hotel bar room. I said, where do you live?
- 6:51I have a house. So it's funny how you were able to find a million dollars when it came for you.
- 6:55But then when it comes for your church, it's second until the advancement of
- 6:59God's kingdom becomes your passion. Getting quiet.
- 7:05Until the advancement of God's kingdom becomes your primary concern.
- 7:09And then when it does, you'll never have a chance to pray for a personal need.
- 7:13Seek ye first the advancement of God's kingdom and His righteousness.
- 7:18And when you do all the other things that you could be dying trying to get,
- 7:24I will drop them in your lap in Jesus' name.
- 7:27Lift both hands all over this place. Receive by the Spirit a renewed passion
- 7:32for the advancement of God's kingdom in Jesus name.
- 7:35If you receive it, let your amen be the loudest.
- 7:38Glory to the living God. All right. So we're going to pause this.
- 7:41I may or may not come back on, but you know, God is not after like,
- 7:46he doesn't, he's not trying to take things away from you. He's not trying to
- 7:50make it so that you, how can I say it?
- 7:53He's not trying to just get you to do everything for him and nothing for you. He loves you.
- 7:59And so he knows that if you put him first, you'll be protected.
- 8:02Everything you have will be blessed.
- 8:04And so that's just a little short kind of message right there within the message.
- 8:08But I wanted to share with you all, and thank you so much for sharing this.
- 8:12If you're on The Godly Hacks, please visit my website, preachatlisa.com.
- 8:16Please share it and review this podcast.
- 8:18Anyway, I want to talk to you about how do you find the right church?
- 8:22How do you find the right online minister to follow?
- 8:26Praise God, Charles. Glory to the living God. We celebrate with you,
- 8:31my brother. That's awesome, Charles.
- 8:33So glad you're here with us today.
- 8:36Glory, glory. That's wonderful. He said he's cancer-free for those of you that can't see. Praise God.
- 8:42So the reason why I want to do
- 8:44this quick message, how do you find a right church that's just like Jesus?
- 8:47How do you find the right online minister to follow that's like Jesus.
- 8:51Now, I'm not saying I am Jesus. I'm not saying I'm the only online minister,
- 8:55but I'm going to give you some criteria to help you because a lot of people are in the wrong places.
- 9:01So when it comes to a church or an online minister, you don't look for comfort.
- 9:07Well, I love everything they say.
- 9:10If you love everything a minister says, I can promise you they're not helping
- 9:15you to grow at all. How do I know this?
- 9:17Well, when my daughter is working on lifting weights, Matilda was downstairs
- 9:21and she's lifting weights and she's like, it hurts. I said, exactly.
- 9:25When your muscles grow, there's pain.
- 9:28Well, if I'm selfish and God corrects me and says, hey, Lisa,
- 9:32that wasn't very nice, that's going to irritate me. Is it not?
- 9:36Of course it is. So sometimes when a preacher is preaching, you should get irritated.
- 9:42And if you're not, that's not a very good preacher.
- 9:45The reason you get irritated is maybe that preacher is stepping on your toes.
- 9:49Maybe you're selfish. Maybe you're cheap. Maybe you don't give to the body of Christ.
- 9:54Maybe you're rude. Maybe you don't walk in love. Maybe you're drinking.
- 9:57Maybe you're getting drunk and you've got a preacher that tells you God understands.
- 10:01You've got plenty of time. What if you don't have plenty of time?
- 10:04What if you have a problem drinking and you won't give it up and you're about
- 10:07to get in a car and kill somebody. What then?
- 10:10You understand that? I, you know, there's two times that I've now been with
- 10:14people and I've been on the edge of their bad decisions.
- 10:17And I, and my friend, she needs to be smacked for saying it,
- 10:21but she's like, Lisa, you're like a witch. Like you said it and it happened.
- 10:25I said, are you out of your mind? I'm not a witch.
- 10:28God sent me as a last resort.
- 10:30God sent me as a warning. God sent me to tell them don't do that. And they did it anyway.
- 10:35And so I'll give you, for example, there's a man, you know, he's come to my
- 10:38church a few times and he's got a drinking problem.
- 10:41And he came, I laid hands on him. He was good for months. He never drank alcohol again. He was good.
- 10:47He was actually going to AA meetings. Now, he wasn't coming to my church,
- 10:50which he should have done.
- 10:51But he wasn't going to any meetings or anything. Well, he had a son,
- 10:56a wicked son, who convinced him to drink again, and he did.
- 11:00And so I happened to be at a church function, and he comes up to me all ashamed
- 11:03because he's drunk out of his mind.
- 11:05And so I just told him, I said, look, God's called you to do better than this.
- 11:09There's a better life for you, and you know this isn't it. I said,
- 11:12you've been clean. You know what to do.
- 11:14I know, I know, he said. He said, will you pray for me again? I said, I sure will.
- 11:18I prayed for him, and then I told him, Do not get on that motorcycle drinking.
- 11:23Don't do that. I told him that.
- 11:25I told him that. Then the next time, then literally, I think it was three days
- 11:31later, he gets on it. He's racing with his bad son.
- 11:37He goes to the left side of the highway and he hits a woman head on.
- 11:42It's a miracle he's alive. Somehow he didn't kill himself. Nobody knows how.
- 11:47He landed underneath her car. He's not even scraped up. He's got maybe a few
- 11:52scrapes, no broken bones, no nothing.
- 11:54He did have something happen on the inside, though, that messed him up pretty bad.
- 11:59I like Joel Osteen, too, Charles. So what am I telling you this for?
- 12:03How do you know if this whole thing that you can't kick is like your last chance?
- 12:08That's why I don't preach God understands and it's okay if you're in it.
- 12:12I preach, get out of it, because I've been on the edge of people's bad choices,
- 12:17and that bad choice tripped the wire that they couldn't come back from.
- 12:21So if you're in a church for comfort, you're in the wrong church.
- 12:26If you follow an online minister because he makes you feel good about all your
- 12:31crappy choices in life, you're following the wrong preacher.
- 12:35If you're listening to a podcast and everything about him is what you like and
- 12:39you never feel challenged, you're listening to the wrong person of God.
- 12:43You should feel challenged. You should feel corrected. You should feel inspired to change.
- 12:50Because if Jesus walked in the church today, he'd probably have a lot to say
- 12:54to a lot of people and you wouldn't like it.
- 12:57Stephen was not chewed on because he said things people liked.
- 13:00Paul was not stoned because he preached a bunch of stuff that everyone was like,
- 13:05oh, you're the best preacher in the world. No, he was telling them to change.
- 13:08Don't do this, do this, and they didn't like it.
- 13:11So many people choose a church like they would a night club, a social club.
- 13:16It's, I got friends there. Hey, I want to hang out with my friends.
- 13:20I like the kids games they play.
- 13:22The music is good. They have coffee. It feels comfortable. But Jesus never said,
- 13:27go there and entertain the nations.
- 13:31He said, go make disciples, disciples, disciples. And what's that?
- 13:36It's somebody that you train up to be just like Christ.
- 13:40It's not go entertain the world and just live in your slop. And we all like
- 13:44just live in slop in churches. It's go be different.
- 13:48Go be like Christ. Go change. So if you are in a church and you never get mad,
- 13:53I can promise you you're in the wrong church.
- 13:55If you're listening to an online preacher and he or she has never said a word to you, Hey, Josh.
- 14:01Y'all say hi to Josh. These are our friends in California.
- 14:05And we love him and his wife, beautiful Alana. And they're so cute.
- 14:09I can't wait to squeeze his face again, little boy.
- 14:12Y'all need to come and see me so I can squeeze your baby. So cute.
- 14:15Anyway, if you're in a church that never challenges you, if you're in a church
- 14:19and they talk to you about prosperity and you get irritated,
- 14:23chances are you've got something to learn about prosperity.
- 14:26If you're in a church and they talk to you about God heals people and you get
- 14:29mad, you have something to learn about about healing.
- 14:33If you're in a church and they talk to you about patience or love or kindness
- 14:37and you get irked in your spirit, chances are God is trying to speak to you
- 14:41and help you to change in that area.
- 14:43But if the minute you go on a chart, somebody irritates you, you leave.
- 14:48You know, pearls are formed through irritation. You understand that.
- 14:51A pearl is formed through agitation.
- 14:56But no Christians want to be irritated. We want to go in church and we want
- 14:59a perfect and we want. And can I tell you something else, too?
- 15:03I'm thinking of somebody right now.
- 15:05Can I tell you something? When you go to a church, guess what's in church?
- 15:09Would you like to know what's in church? People.
- 15:13I'll be fun, Josh. We'd love to have you. And guess what people are in church?
- 15:19Messed up people. It doesn't matter how pretty your church is,
- 15:22how many lights you've got, how many organs you got. If you got people, you got a mess.
- 15:26I used to think, God, how come I don't have just regular church people?
- 15:30That's what I used to think.
- 15:32And then I saw some regular church people, and they're just messed up as non-regular
- 15:36church people, just so you know.
- 15:39Okay, so Jesus never said, go therefore and entertain all nations.
- 15:44Jesus said, make disciples.
- 15:46If you're going to be a disciple of Christ, you're going to have to die to yourself.
- 15:51You get irritated when people talk to you too much. You got to die to that.
- 15:55You have to have compassion.
- 15:57Listen, I've been at the church when I'm trying to get something done,
- 15:59and somebody shows up right in the middle and just wants to talk my ear off.
- 16:02And you know what I never say? I don't want to talk to you again on my nerves.
- 16:07Sometimes I'm very much aware. Sometimes I think God has my church there just
- 16:13for one person sometimes. I really do.
- 16:16And I sit there and I listen to this person. They tell me the same stories and
- 16:20say the same thing all the time.
- 16:22And I just smile and act like it's the first time I heard it.
- 16:26And I believe that's because in my heart, I'm thinking like Jesus.
- 16:29You see, if Jesus was standing on the road and some elderly person who's very
- 16:33lonely started talking to him?
- 16:35Do you think Jesus would say, I don't have time for you. I got to go right now.
- 16:39Ministry is about people. And this is why, listen, God isn't getting down on
- 16:45you. God's not trying to hurt you.
- 16:47It's about people and it's about you. And if you want to be a blessing to anybody
- 16:51in life, you too will have to change.
- 16:54You too will have to stop being moody and rude and unmannerly and all the stuff that's of our flesh.
- 17:00If we're going to be the disciple of Jesus, we have to be full of compassion.
- 17:05Do you know the Bible talks about the two things that made Jesus do miracles? He had compassion.
- 17:11That's what he had, compassion on people. He knew that they were but flesh.
- 17:16It's all through the Bible. God had compassion too.
- 17:19And so the minute that you and I think, let me tell you a little secret,
- 17:23and I'm not getting down on people. I'm just trying to teach you what church to pick.
- 17:26The minute that you think that person is so stupid, how come they don't know
- 17:30this? How come they're so stupid and not listening? You're in the wrong lane.
- 17:35What you should be saying is, God, I know they should know better,
- 17:38but they keep making the wrong choices. Can you help them to see? That's compassion.
- 17:42And I know it's easy sometimes to say, oh, you know, shove those people.
- 17:47I've thought that, but that's not compassion. That person is going to hell.
- 17:51That person's life is going to fall apart. And so you don't want to think that about people.
- 17:56So Jesus said in Matthew 28, make disciples. Now, number two,
- 18:00church was never about community alone.
- 18:05So many people want to go to church because they want to feel community.
- 18:08But can I tell you something?
- 18:10If you've got all the good friends in the world, you go to all the best dinners
- 18:13at church, your kids love the people, but you don't have a minister with power,
- 18:18you could be playing some of the best church games.
- 18:20And if your kids start struggling with an identity crisis and your boy thinks
- 18:24he's a girl, you're not in a church that can help you.
- 18:27If you go to a youth group now, and I'm not saying this because we don't have that.
- 18:32I want, just so you know, I want this desperately. I want to have a mega complex
- 18:36with so many fun things for kids that they would love to come. I'm just not there yet.
- 18:40So I'm not saying we shouldn't have those things. We should.
- 18:44But what I'm saying is if your sole reason is going to a church for community,
- 18:49and the pastor's just so-so, or you go to church for the youth ministry,
- 18:54but the pastor has no power, you're setting yourself up for a catastrophe, my friend.
- 19:00And it's the same thing with the online preacher. If you just like their jokes,
- 19:03their looks, which I'm very attracted to.
- 19:07But if that's what you're after, who can you turn to when you're broken,
- 19:12when the money doesn't come through, when your bills are due and you don't know
- 19:16what to do, when your body's falling apart?
- 19:18Who do you go to? Who are you going to listen to that's going to help you and strengthen you?
- 19:23If you're just listening to some jokester, you're not going to get the help you need.
- 19:26All right. Hebrews 10, 24. Consider one another to provoke unto love and good
- 19:32works, not forsaking the assembly of ourselves.
- 19:35You know, I always quote that part, don't forsake the assembly of yourself.
- 19:39But I wasn't even thinking about the first half.
- 19:41Put in the comments, whole Bible, W-H-O-L-E, the whole thing. Read the whole thing.
- 19:48Ah, consider one another to provoke unto love and good works.
- 19:57Holly, that's funny. Consider one another provoke. So we're supposed to provoke
- 20:02each other. And you better be like, yeah, that sister provokes me.
- 20:04All right, good. You've got a chance to grow.
- 20:07If somebody talks bad about you in charge, you've got a chance to exercise compassion.
- 20:12If somebody's rude to you, you've got a chance to exercise the love of God.
- 20:18If somebody is backbiting, you've got a chance to exercise forgiveness.
- 20:24If somebody gets on your nerves, you've got a chance to exercise patience.
- 20:29You can make that joke, Holly. All right, let's keep going.
- 20:33Why do we assemble? To provoke one another, to encourage one another,
- 20:37to strengthen one another. Your church should be a place. I know you are, girl.
- 20:42And let me just say, so if you're not watching, Marissa's making comments.
- 20:46So somebody like Marissa and somebody like me, when you grow up being extra
- 20:51tough, that's her background.
- 20:53She can't help it. That's her background. That's how she's raised, super tough.
- 20:57So then she's going to have to look for Jesus in the Bible, the compassionate Jesus, and be like him.
- 21:04She can't be like her family, because then you're not being like Jesus. It's like me.
- 21:07I can't be like my mama, because then I'm not being like Jesus.
- 21:10I have to be just like Jesus. You understand?
- 21:13Our method of measurement is Jesus, not our neighbor. Come on, comment, say, not you.
- 21:20Not you. All right. So we're supposed to provoke, encourage,
- 21:24and strengthen. All right.
- 21:25This is one of the verses people overlook in Acts 4.23. And being let go,
- 21:30they went to their own company. Talking about the apostles.
- 21:33They wanted to go with people that were like them. So how do you pick the right church?
- 21:38First of all, if you're a Christian, you should at least figure out what Jesus
- 21:42wants and not pick what makes you comfortable. I'll give you,
- 21:45for example, in the book of Acts, the apostles healed the sick,
- 21:50raised the dead. Nobody lacked anything.
- 21:53So we see healing, raising of the dead, nobody had any lack,
- 21:59and they spoke with other tongues.
- 22:02Those are four things that every church and every spiritual leader you follow
- 22:06should have if you want to be the true church.
- 22:10Well, my church says tongues isn't for today. You're in a screwed up church.
- 22:14Well, my church says that we don't need money. You're in a goofy church.
- 22:19Well, my church says that healing passed away with the apostles.
- 22:22You're in a goofy church. And when you get cancer, you're gonna die.
- 22:25And let me ask you a question. I'm gonna just put this out there for everyone listening.
- 22:28If your church really believes that miracles passed away, why,
- 22:33when you're sick, do they make you run to the doctor?
- 22:36If you don't think God wants miracles, then don't treat yourself.
- 22:40Don't go to the doctor. But everybody goes to the doctor.
- 22:44You see how they're hypocrites? They tell you that miracles have passed away.
- 22:47But sure enough, if you were to get the C word, they'd tell you immediately
- 22:50to go to the hospital. Go get medicine.
- 22:53For what? You don't believe in miracles. You don't want to be healed.
- 22:56Because inside, you know you're supposed to be healed. You get that. Exactly. Okay.
- 23:03They went to their own company. Being let go, they went to their own company
- 23:06because they surrounded themselves with people of the same faith,
- 23:08not doubters, not compromisers, not spectators.
- 23:13Faith will grow in an atmosphere where you can change.
- 23:16So what did the church that Jesus, you know, do look like? Again, this is for you.
- 23:22How do you know who to follow online? Do you know how many people are online
- 23:24preaching, acting like they're preachers? I know people that barely got out
- 23:27of drug addiction two months ago, and they're acting like they're a preacher.
- 23:30I know people that don't know anything
- 23:31about anything and preachers have platformed them. It's a disaster.
- 23:35They've not even been proven.
- 23:38You can't platform people until they've been proven, and some people are hiding out in plain sight.
- 23:43People shouldn't be excited to teach you the gospel because the Bible says teachers
- 23:47will be held to a high accountability. Really high.
- 23:51That's a good verse, Justin. All right. What did the Church of Jesus Christ look like?
- 23:56So instead of asking what church has the best programs, ask what church looks like the book of Acts.
- 24:05Do they preach repentance? Mark 115, Jesus said, repent. Do they preach salvation?
- 24:11Do you go to your church every Sunday?
- 24:14And at the end of service, nobody gives an altar call. Okay,
- 24:17you're in a messed up church. They repented. They said, be baptized.
- 24:22They received the Holy Ghost.
- 24:24Hold on a second. My ducks are going postal. Let me Make sure they're all right.
- 24:27Don't you move, you guys.
- 24:29Are you going to give them a fresh pool? Hey, right there in that metal is where
- 24:33the wasps are. Be very, extremely careful, okay?
- 24:37If you look in it, you can see the trap. If you even bump it or disturb it,
- 24:40they'll come after you, all right? All right, be careful, honey.
- 24:44Okay. My daughter's giving her ducks water, but there's a wasp nest over there,
- 24:48so I don't want her to get—thank you for being patient with me.
- 24:50Sorry about that on the podcast. All right.
- 24:53They healed the sick. Jesus, Matthew 4, 23. He healed all kinds of sickness.
- 24:57And the disciples did it too in Mark 16. They'll lay hands on the sick and they recover.
- 25:01People were healed. Jesus cast out devils. Paul commanded spirits to leave people.
- 25:07Jesus promised that you'll speak with new tongues, Mark 16, 17,
- 25:10and it happened. Not once, not twice, but repeatedly.
- 25:15They laid hands on people. They believed. They were full of miracles.
- 25:18Blind eyes were open. Prison doors were open. There were angels. There was deliverance.
- 25:23Also, they lived generously.
- 25:25The Bible says in Acts 4, 32, they laid money at the apostles' feet and nobody
- 25:29lacked. Now, socialism forces you to hand over your money.
- 25:35But Christianity gives you an opportunity to take your money and sow into the kingdom of God.
- 25:41And I believe when you do, just like God said, you will be rewarded.
- 25:46Good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over.
- 25:48So you should not lack. And I know some of you are like, well,
- 25:52Lisa, I'm in lack right now. I know.
- 25:54Just keep believing God and do what you know to do and he'll get you out.
- 25:59So I'm going to ask you some hard questions. Y'all ready?
- 26:03And you can substitute the word church for online minister, but I'll do both.
- 26:08If somebody walked into your church today or the online preacher that you listen
- 26:13to, would they even know that miracles still happen?
- 26:17Would they even know that the Holy Spirit is real?
- 26:21Would they ever see somebody healed? Would they ever see somebody being prayed for?
- 26:27Or is it simply a motivational speech?
- 26:30And then what happens when the real problems come? What do you do if you're
- 26:36a person going to a church and you've got a teenage child and your teenager
- 26:41is like, I'm dealing with thoughts of suicide. I don't want to be here anymore.
- 26:45Is your youth program going to save them? Are your Friday night games going to fix that?
- 26:50No. Now, don't get me wrong. I believe in Friday night games.
- 26:55I think we should have all kinds of games. I really do.
- 26:59But if you have games and no power,
- 27:02you've got a kid that's got a serious problem, and you can't help them.
- 27:07Does your church know what to do? What if you don't know how to pray in faith?
- 27:12Suppose that your kid or your husband or your wife has an addiction or a fear or a torment.
- 27:21Does your church have spiritual authority? Or you can say your online preacher.
- 27:27Spiritual authority is something should be happening you should see the addicted
- 27:32go free you should see people being healed you know i was preaching last night,
- 27:37kenny had messaged me on sunday he was so funny you know he'll sometimes they
- 27:41just grow so accustomed to me that when i say does anyone want prayer they don't
- 27:44come up and kenny was like why haven't i gone up for prayer like my shoulder's
- 27:47been killing me i need to ask lisa to pray for me,
- 27:51so sunday he told talia he's like, I'm going up there. I'm getting prayed for.
- 27:54So he comes to get prayer for his shoulder. Then the next day he messages me
- 27:57that all the pain is gone.
- 28:00And it was funny, because I was like, really? And then it was like,
- 28:03God hit me in the face, basically.
- 28:06He's like, yes, really, you're my daughter. When you pray, stuff happens.
- 28:11Of course people get healed. So if you follow a minister or an online minister,
- 28:16or you're in a church that understands their authority and power,
- 28:21then when somebody's sick, they should be healed.
- 28:24When you pray for people, something should change.
- 28:27So does your church have a spiritual authority? or just counseling ability,
- 28:31because they're two totally different things.
- 28:33There are certain places for wise counsel, but the New Testament prayed,
- 28:38believed God, and expected his spirit to move.
- 28:41And sometimes many Christians mistake comfort for God's will.
- 28:47They'll say things like, I've always gone there. My friends go there.
- 28:51My family is there. My children like it.
- 28:54But nowhere does Scripture say to choose a church because you're comfortable?
- 28:59A sign that the church you're going to or the preacher you listen to is a healthy place for you?
- 29:09I'm sorry my daughter's yelling at her dog because she just almost ate our ducks.
- 29:13Thank you, Joshua. I'm sorry I'm interrupted by the farm stuff happening outside the window.
- 29:18Oh, I don't want to be on the broadcast and a duck kid eating.
- 29:21Lord have mercy on me. Okay.
- 29:24One sign of a healthy church or an online preacher. Are you changing?
- 29:28Are you any different from when you went there to when you finished?
- 29:32Is your mind any clearer? Is your body any healthier?
- 29:36Do you have a different perspective on finances? Do you have more authority
- 29:40now than you used to have?
- 29:41Do you have more peace? Do you have more joy?
- 29:44You know, recently, some of you all know that we found out that somebody said
- 29:48that they're just massively depressed all the time.
- 29:51And they're teaching other people online as if everything's great.
- 29:55I don't know how you do that. And like I told y'all, and I'm not trying to say
- 29:59I'm better than anybody else, but what you see is what you get.
- 30:02I have shared with you, I have had moments of depression in the past,
- 30:07but I knew that it was because a spirit was like oppressing me and I dealt with
- 30:11it. And guess what? I'm not depressed.
- 30:13I wake up in the morning, I have a song for Jesus. At night,
- 30:17I did go out last night. I didn't do it for very long though,
- 30:19but when everybody else is sleeping, I love to go out on my back porch.
- 30:23I look at the moon, my patio furniture, or my little up lights. It's so pretty.
- 30:26And I just tell God, I do this joke with the Lord.
- 30:29There's this guy I told you at the, at the crusade I did, you know,
- 30:32play his guitar and he'd go, I love you, Lord. I love you, Lord.
- 30:36I love you, Lord. And it just cracks me up.
- 30:38So I went out there last night and I went, I love you, Lord.
- 30:42I love you, Lord. And I just imagined God's laughing. Like it, it makes him happy.
- 30:47So I go out there, I pray, I talk to him. And then I asked him to make me a
- 30:51better preacher than anyone could possibly, because when my church explodes,
- 30:56it will not be because of the way I look.
- 30:58It won't be because of how I dress flashy.
- 31:01I mean, I'm a cute girl, but that doesn't grow a church because it's not where it should be right now.
- 31:06The only way a church will grow is if the anointing of God draws people,
- 31:09and that's my heart because many people need help.
- 31:12So a sign of a healthy church is you're changing. You're more prosperous than you used to be.
- 31:17Or if you're struggling, like I know some of you going through a struggle,
- 31:20but you're not as hateful as you used to be and you know how to get out of it.
- 31:24You're growing. Romans 12, two, be transformed.
- 31:29That's why you go to church. That's why you listen to a preacher. Be transformed.
- 31:35I do my fast at the beginning of the year. Many of you did it with me.
- 31:38And as I fasted, you know, I'm fasting for our big building and our land and
- 31:42all the things, but that's not what God's been doing to me.
- 31:46You know, I fasted for that. And you know what God's been saying?
- 31:48I don't like how you do this, Lisa.
- 31:50I don't like that, Lisa. You were offended here, Lisa. I'm like,
- 31:53what are you even talking about? You done fell out laughing, Marissa.
- 31:57And he's like, fix this, fix that. God is literally chiseling on me.
- 32:02So I too must be transformed.
- 32:06And no matter how much transformation you undergo, would you like some good news?
- 32:10You're like, please, he's going to keep working on you.
- 32:16You're never done because Jesus is the ultimate. You're never going to go to
- 32:20church and just be like, whoa, I've arrived.
- 32:23I'm the best Christian. I'm full of patience and love and kindness.
- 32:27And I like prosperity. And I give lots of my money to the church and it don't even bother me.
- 32:32And I got plenty enough and I'm healthy. And whoa, I've arrived.
- 32:36Because the minute you think that, Someone's going to hit you in the back of
- 32:39the head and they're going to talk about you and put a knife in your back and
- 32:42you're going to be like, and then you're going to be tempted to go,
- 32:45I'm going to tell the whole world what they did.
- 32:47And then you'll realize, crap, I've got some growing up to do.
- 32:52I thought I was good, but I ain't so good because you're supposed to be like Jesus.
- 32:58He's forming you, transformed, changed into the same image.
- 33:03Ephesians 4.11, the five-fold ministry, prophets, evangelists,
- 33:08pastors, teachers, apostles, is for the perfecting of the saints.
- 33:15Your charge is to make you be perfected.
- 33:19How can I make you be perfected if I tell you your drinking is okay?
- 33:24Wrong. How can you be perfected if I don't ever make you mad?
- 33:29If you need to change and I never make you mad, how are you gonna change?
- 33:35You know, God told Jeremiah, don't look at their faces.
- 33:39I've had to learn that when I preach. Sometimes I just shut my eyes because
- 33:44half of them are sleeping or doing God knows what.
- 33:47Except when Joshua comes and yells, amen, then it wakes up.
- 33:54So, you know, we're supposed to be perfected. Go to a church that perfects you.
- 33:59Listen to an online minister that perfects you.
- 34:03So this person is saying exactly what you're not supposed to say.
- 34:07They said, forgetting that Christians were sinners before they came,
- 34:10and they're still sinners, and we all continue to sin.
- 34:14But the Bible, since you brought that up, my friend, I'm going to correct you
- 34:17live on air. Joshua's laughing at me.
- 34:19All right? Let me just correct you.
- 34:22I need the Bible verse in the book of John that says to stop sinning,
- 34:26and if we continue to sin, God is not in us.
- 34:31Okay. So this religious person says what everybody says.
- 34:36Yeah, not me either. We all sin, we're all sinners. We all were sinners,
- 34:41but I don't wake up sinning every day.
- 34:44I'm not having adultery. I'm not getting drunk. I'm not a lesbian.
- 34:48I'm not sinning every day. Maybe you are my friend, but listen to this verse,
- 34:52and this is in your Bible.
- 34:541 John 3, 6, no one who abides, that means hangs out with God,
- 35:00in him, keeps on sinning.
- 35:04We're all sinners. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning.
- 35:12No one who keeps on sinning has seen him or knows him.
- 35:17That's the Bible. 1 John 3, 6, a new version says, whoever makes a practice
- 35:23of sinning is of the devil.
- 35:26For the devil has been sinning for the beginning. For this reason,
- 35:29the son of God came to destroy the works of the devil.
- 35:32No one, come on, put no one in the comments.
- 35:35No one born of God makes a practice of sinning for God's seed abides in him
- 35:41and he cannot keep sinning because he's born of God.
- 35:45By this, it's evident that you're children of God and who are the children of
- 35:50the devil. Now, listen, this is in your Bible.
- 35:53He is saying, this is how you know you're either a child of God or the child
- 35:58of the devil. Now, I don't know about you, but this is important.
- 36:02This is how he, you know, God's seed abides in him. He cannot keep on sinning
- 36:06because he's been born of God. By this is evident who are the children of God
- 36:11and who are the children of the devil.
- 36:14Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor of the one who does
- 36:21not love his brother. There we go.
- 36:24Another version translation says, by this we know that we're in him.
- 36:27Whoever says he abides in him ought to walk the same way he walked. Exactly.
- 36:34If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth isn't in us.
- 36:37If we confess our sin, he's faithful and just.
- 36:39So we know we were sinners, but we don't keep on sinning.
- 36:43Okay, so I'm not gonna argue. I read you the Bible verse. Go look it up yourself.
- 36:48It says right in there, we don't sin.
- 36:50Period, end of story. All right, the church should not make you feel better.
- 36:55The church shouldn't make you feel better. It should make you become better.
- 36:59You understand that? the church is not there to make you feel better.
- 37:04Although I try to make people feel good. I don't want to beat you down.
- 37:07But the church of Jesus Christ is there to make you better, not make you feel better.
- 37:13Because some people, let me tell you something. I've had people come in my church
- 37:18and they won't come back. And you know what they told me?
- 37:20She won't come back because she was very vulnerable. Yeah, because her life
- 37:25is full of sin and disgustingness.
- 37:27She's sleeping with men she shouldn't be sleeping with. She's smoking pot next to her kid's room.
- 37:33She's an alcoholic. Her life is a mess. She comes to church. I pray for her.
- 37:38Tears come down her face and she won't come back.
- 37:41And that's what happens. She doesn't want to change. She wants to keep smoking,
- 37:46keep doing drugs and keep being stupid.
- 37:48And that's what she's doing. And she's going to harm her kids and God will hold
- 37:51her accountable one day.
- 37:54But she's going to blame society for her problems. She'll blame the color of
- 37:58skin on other people for why she's got problems, but it's because of her.
- 38:01That's why she's got problems.
- 38:03All right. Church isn't there to make you feel better. It should make you be better.
- 38:09Hebrews 12, 6, for whom the Lord loves, he chastens. You know what that means? Spanking.
- 38:17Well, I don't believe in spanking my kids. Well, okay. But God spanks people.
- 38:23For whom the Lord loves, he chastens. He corrects you. He corrects me all the time.
- 38:28Lisa, you are offended at Chad. I was like, what are you even talking?
- 38:31I'm the one trying to preach and I'm the one.
- 38:33And you all know I told you that story. It's kind of a funny story, but exactly.
- 38:37That's why, right. The one who lives free on the inside of you.
- 38:40There you go, Joshua. That's right.
- 38:43So, you know, you know that Chad was, you know, mouthing off to me about the
- 38:46windows a little bit. It kind of got on my nerves.
- 38:50I didn't say it to my husband though. He walked away, but I said it in the air.
- 38:54I'm just, I'm trying to preach and he's just over here talking, but you know my mouth.
- 39:00And now Matilda already knew I was offended because God told her,
- 39:03but she told God, I'm not telling my mom. She's not going to listen to me.
- 39:07I was having a mood. And all of a sudden the Lord said, Lisa,
- 39:12when I told you not to be offended, I wasn't just talking about strangers online.
- 39:16You're offended at Chad. And I was like, what are you even talking about?
- 39:21And then I was like, yeah, I guess I am. So I had to correct it.
- 39:25Did I say to Jesus or did I say to God, you don't need to tell me that,
- 39:30God. You know, I'm up here preaching. I'm the one doing everything.
- 39:33No, I never said that. I said, Lord, I'm sorry. You're right.
- 39:36I am offended at my husband. That's not cool.
- 39:39And I even repented to Chad, even though he didn't even know I was offended.
- 39:42Chad, I'm really sorry. You know, when you said that, no, I didn't like how
- 39:45you said it. But when you said it, I got offended And I'm real sorry.
- 39:49You know why I'm like that? Because I'm trying to get as tight to Jesus as I can get.
- 39:54I need to get tight to Jesus. That's all I care about.
- 39:58I care about being the best mother, the best wife, then having the best church,
- 40:03helping the most people.
- 40:04And I want to be this tight with Christ. I want to be so close to Christ that
- 40:08he's like, can you give me, like Matilda's so cute.
- 40:10She snugs up to chat on the couch and she like wraps herself around his neck.
- 40:14And sometimes it's cute. He pulls away and he goes, love me less. Please love me less.
- 40:19That's what I want Jesus saying to me. Love me less, Lisa. Love me less. Come on, back off.
- 40:23And I know I'm not there yet. So I'm trying to get tight with the Lord.
- 40:26Amen. I want to be close to the Lord. Don't you? Do you? Say yes. I know you do.
- 40:30Whom the Lord loves, he corrects. Proverbs 3.11. Revelation 3.19.
- 40:35As many as I love, I rebuke.
- 40:39You don't need to talk like that. You're the reason people don't want to go to church.
- 40:42I'm not going to. Okay, well then rip Revelation 3.19 out of your Bible then. Rip it out.
- 40:49Rip it out, rip it out. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten.
- 40:56That's what the revelation says. If he loves you, he's going to rebuke you.
- 41:02I don't appreciate that. Well, it doesn't matter. He loves you.
- 41:05That's why he's talking to you.
- 41:08You know, I got to sit Matilda down all the time. Man, I'm sweating up here,
- 41:11y'all. You see the water dripping off my face? It's hot.
- 41:15I need to turn the air on when I do these broadcasts.
- 41:18I sit Matilda down all the time. I said, honey, this attitude is not going to
- 41:21serve you. I saw that you did this.
- 41:23I'm not yelling at her, but I'm correcting her. Why? Because it's my job to
- 41:27help her become the most successful person in life. So I'm correcting her.
- 41:33Beware of teachers that normalize sin. Okay, whatever church you go into and
- 41:38whoever you listen to online, if they say sin is normal, watch out.
- 41:44Many modern voices keep saying, I'm struggling. We're all struggling.
- 41:49I sin every day. We'll never change.
- 41:52But that's not what your Bible says. The New Testament acknowledges that believers do face temptation,
- 41:58but it consistently calls Christians to grow in holiness and to live in the
- 42:04victory that Christ provides rather than treating it as something that we just have to have.
- 42:10Do you know that I don't wake up with any desire? Holly, is Azadian in the room?
- 42:16I've got to be careful what I say. If you've got kids watching,
- 42:18shut their ears, please.
- 42:20Mute it for a minute. I'm burning up.
- 42:24I don't wake up in the morning with any desire to watch pornography on TV.
- 42:29You couldn't pay me $10 billion to watch that mess.
- 42:33I don't wake up in the morning with any desire to go drink wine.
- 42:37Ever. I don't wake up and want to take a shot to get through the day.
- 42:43I don't take medication to help me get through the day.
- 42:46Thank you, Holly. Yeah, Holly does need to use—well, Azadian can hear the word, it's good for him.
- 42:52I don't wake up and want to watch stuff where everyone's cheating on everybody.
- 42:56I don't want to turn on music in my ears or my eyes where the guy's talking
- 42:59about sex and drugging, and I have no desire for that. You know why I don't have a desire for that?
- 43:04Because like Joshua said, the one who's pure, the one who's holy,
- 43:08he lives on the inside of me.
- 43:10And I have no desire for that stuff. So there's no need to make excuses for
- 43:14sin because I just don't want to do it. And you couldn't force me to do it.
- 43:18You couldn't force me a million times to do it.
- 43:21So if the son makes you free, you'll be free. Jesus came to set you free.
- 43:27And the Bible says in Romans 6, 14, sin shall not have dominion or control over you.
- 43:35So if you follow an online teacher or a church that tells you you're always
- 43:39going to sin, there's nothing you can do about it, and you'll never get out
- 43:43of it, they don't know Romans 6.14.
- 43:46Sin will not dominate you.
- 43:49That's what the Word says. Now, you can listen to preachers or the Bible,
- 43:53but sometimes you can't do both because sometimes the preachers are not telling you the Bible.
- 43:57So you need to follow the Bible so that you know if the preacher you're following teaches the Word or not.
- 44:03Romans 6.18, being then made free from sin.
- 44:06The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 5.17, if any man's of Christ,
- 44:10he's a new creature. Old things are gone, passed away.
- 44:15I used to have a fit. I don't have to have fits anymore. I used to get mad at
- 44:20every person that talked bad about me.
- 44:22I don't have to anymore. I'm not going to be offended.
- 44:26Galatians 5, 16, I'm walking in the spirit, so I will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
- 44:31First John three, John says that when you abide in Christ, you don't make a
- 44:35practice of sin, making an emphasis that those born of God are called to a life that's transformed.
- 44:42So your church should transform you. This is not a social club.
- 44:47This is not a kids play the games. If your kids go to church for two years,
- 44:50do you know how many kids come to my church and they have never even heard the
- 44:53sinner's prayer? For goodness sake, They don't even know how to ask Christ in
- 44:57their heart. That's a problem.
- 44:59They don't even know there is a Holy Spirit. They don't know about speaking
- 45:02in other tongues. They don't know anything, but they know how to color real good.
- 45:05And they know how to play foosball, but they don't know anything else.
- 45:09They don't know if they get a thought that they might wanna off their lives,
- 45:13or if they're a boy and they think they should be a girl,
- 45:16they don't know that they can take that thought and cast it down,
- 45:20every thought that exalts itself against the will of God. They don't even know that.
- 45:24They think it's their thought because no one's ever taught them how to control
- 45:28your thought life, how to have the mind of Christ. They don't know because their
- 45:32parents want to go to a social club church.
- 45:34Grace teaches you to deny ungodliness. It does not excuse sin.
- 45:38We are called to victory. Romans 8, 37.
- 45:43You go to a church that teaches you, you're more than a conqueror.
- 45:47You're not going to get beat up your whole life. You're standing on the devil's
- 45:50head, not the other way around. You stomp his head. He doesn't stomp your head.
- 45:55You're walking on the devil. He is not walking on you. And if your online preacher
- 45:59is always talking about how bad it is and how much they struggle and how screwed
- 46:02up they are, don't follow them or you'll be just like them.
- 46:06Thanks be to God who gives us the victory. You know that song?
- 46:10Well, that's a Bible verse.
- 46:12Thanks be to God. He always causes us to triumph. This is the victory that overcomes
- 46:16the world. James 4, 7, resist the devil.
- 46:20He will flee, not negotiate.
- 46:25Hey, Satan, I'll do this if you, oh, please tell him to get, get, get on out of here.
- 46:31As Kenny's mama says, get on out of here. That's what you got to say to the devil.
- 46:36Resist the devil. He will flee. Run from you as in terror.
- 46:39The Bible said that I give you power over all. No, I give you authority over
- 46:44all the power of the devil. That means you don't have the same power he has.
- 46:48You don't have the physical strength he has, but you don't need it.
- 46:52You got authority. Can I tell you something?
- 46:55When I had a pit bull who I love very much, or even these German shepherds.
- 46:59I could not physically control my pit bull. He could jerk my legs right out
- 47:02from underneath me. But you know what I did have? A leash with some prongs in it or a walking harness.
- 47:07And he couldn't pull past that because I had authority to yank his butt. That's why.
- 47:13So I didn't have the power to stop him, but I had the authority.
- 47:17You get, you understand. That's right. All right, Ephesians 6,
- 47:2010. Be strong in the Lord. I can do all things through Christ.
- 47:22So how do you choose a church or an online preacher?
- 47:26Does the church preach the whole Bible?
- 47:29I can't preach to you prosperity and not talk to you about your attitude.
- 47:34I can't say, can I tell you the verse that everybody loves to run their mouth at in church?
- 47:39Christians, God supplies all my needs. Oh, God gives me all I,
- 47:44he supplies all my needs.
- 47:46And I know you think you sound cute quoting it, but guess what?
- 47:48But if you don't read the first half, you don't get the second half.
- 47:52Oh, your pastor didn't teach you that. You know what the first half is?
- 47:55Nobody gave to me except for you.
- 48:00And now my God shall supply your needs.
- 48:05Notice he didn't say all the other 10 churches that didn't give to him.
- 48:09He said, my God will supply for you. Why? Because you supplied for him.
- 48:14But Christians don't like to talk about that. Don't you give the preacher money?
- 48:17Don't you give the church money? You know, okay, well, your needs are never gonna get met.
- 48:21And those of you watching me, you are givers, givers. So you've got seed in the ground.
- 48:25So you should stand on that verse. Hey, God, Paul said that time and time again,
- 48:29And I will tell you, many of you, you have been a continual blessing to this ministry.
- 48:34You've allowed me to feed. How many kids did I tell y'all we fed?
- 48:37We fed 80 children last month. We're like this big as a church, but we fed 80 children.
- 48:42We sent money to Venezuela for a massive crusade that people are getting saved. You did that.
- 48:47We sent other money to another minister who's got a big, huge building.
- 48:51They minister in the Northwest where all the devils are.
- 48:55And we help give to their building. They help youth and kids all the time. You did that.
- 49:00So you can stand on that Bible verse. Time and time again, you supply my need
- 49:04and my God will supply all your needs now. You understand that?
- 49:07So is Jesus the center of the ministry in the church?
- 49:12Do they teach you to repent? Hey,
- 49:14if you got a sin, repent. Is holiness encouraged? I know we all struggle.
- 49:19I scream, you scream. We all scream for ice cream. Everybody wants ice cream.
- 49:22There's nothing we can do about it.
- 49:24We just all want chocolate ice cream every day of our lives.
- 49:27We're all gonna be 500 pounds, but it's okay. God understands.
- 49:31You got no self-control. He doesn't care.
- 49:34That's how dumb that is. You don't need to stuff your mouth with ice cream and you don't need to sin.
- 49:39Control yourself. You're not a dog. Control yourself.
- 49:43Where all the devils are. Ha!
- 49:47Is the Holy Spirit welcome in your church? I mean, most churches shut it down.
- 49:52Oh, no, you don't. Not in here. Nobody talking tongues in here.
- 49:55We don't believe. You know what's funny?
- 49:57Do you know how people say you don't speak in tongues in your church?
- 50:01It'll upset people that don't understand.
- 50:05Do you know that the Bible says that tongues is not for the believer,
- 50:08but the unbeliever? Isn't that weird?
- 50:11Go look it up yourself. It's in there. That means when I go,
- 50:14Hiko Robo Shata Karamonde, Hiko Robo, it's not for you all that already believe
- 50:19it. It's for people that don't.
- 50:22Do they believe that God still heals? Because he does. Is there spiritual growth or are you just a baby?
- 50:29I just love this church. This church is just the best church.
- 50:33And you'll be like, you got a pacifier in your mouth. What's wrong with you?
- 50:38Well, if they take it out, I'll start crying. Exactly. You need to grow up.
- 50:42You need to grow up. Pluck that. But Matilde, I need to find it.
- 50:46My daughter had these pacifiers. They were so cute. Little baby pacifier.
- 50:50I don't know if Joshua's got this for his baby, but has a lamb that comes off
- 50:53the end. I need to send you one if you don't.
- 50:55And they're so cute. And she would hold that and just, that's what a lot of Christians are like.
- 51:00Oh, that's such a good message. And you'd be like, dude, you're drinking wine
- 51:04every Friday night. I know. And he never talks about it. That's why I love this church.
- 51:09That's such a good message. Dude, but you're sleeping with your girlfriend and
- 51:14you all are shacked up in a house.
- 51:16I know. And the pastor never talks about it. That's why I love this church. Okay, you got a problem.
- 51:22Do they believe God still heals? Do they pray for people? Is there spiritual
- 51:25growth? Are lives changing? Are disciples made?
- 51:28Does your church look like the New Testament?
- 51:31And if the answer is no, you in the wrong place. And life is too short for that.
- 51:37You got to get out of there, my friend, before it's too late.
- 51:40Look, I want to be, when I preach, I preach so that if anybody's kid is on drugs,
- 51:46they know I'm the church to come. I will lay hands and that kid will get delivered. And I believe it.
- 51:51And if your kid isn't delivered, it's because they just run right back to the pig pen.
- 51:54But if you come and you say, let me tell you something too. It's not just about
- 51:58a wham, bam, thank you, ma'am.
- 52:00It is not. The reason why, like, I know you guys like to talk about Kenny and
- 52:04his breakthrough and stuff, all that kind of stuff. But do you know why Kenny has that?
- 52:08Because before I prayed for him, Joshua, this boy you see on here,
- 52:11Joshua had prayed for Kenny.
- 52:13Joshua had sold the word of God into Kenny for who knows how many years.
- 52:17They were good friends. and Kenny was always at his house.
- 52:19And Kenny would say that he got sick and tired of hearing Josh talk about Jesus, which is so funny.
- 52:25Joshua sold the word, the word, the word, the word, the word,
- 52:28praying for him, the word, the word. So Kenny comes to my church.
- 52:33He gets radically delivered, instantly delivered, right? Holy ghost fire.
- 52:39He doesn't know what happens. He's freaked out so bad. He jumps out the church
- 52:43and starts doing drugs again, but he didn't count on Joshua.
- 52:48So Joshua picks him up and forces him to go to another meeting where two other
- 52:53people speak into Kenny's life, confirming that God did something.
- 52:56Kenny stops running. He comes to church. But you know what Kenny didn't do?
- 53:00He didn't just come to church once.
- 53:02Kenny has stayed in my church for how many years now? I think it's three.
- 53:07Now, he sometimes skips and we're working on that.
- 53:11Working on that with him. But he's been faithful.
- 53:14He comes. He sits under the word. And that's why he's now promoted at work.
- 53:20He's got more money than he's ever had before.
- 53:22He's blessed. His mom is in full remission.
- 53:26God is blessing him.
- 53:28It's because he sat under the word, the good word that teaches him something.
- 53:32You understand that? Three or four.
- 53:38Yeah, exactly. Good for Joshua, because I'm sure it wasn't easy, but he kept with him.
- 53:44If your family faces a great crisis, and if that happened tonight,
- 53:49do you know who to turn to?
- 53:51Do you have a church that you could turn to or an online preacher that you could go to?
- 53:56Are you looking for community or transformation? Community is wonderful,
- 54:01but transformation is biblical.
- 54:04Jesus didn't say, come to me, I will make you comfortable.
- 54:09As a matter of fact he said you got a drink of my blood and eat of my flesh
- 54:15and they're like i'm out of here this is a hard saying you remember that oh no we don't we're out,
- 54:21and he looked at peter and said peter are you gonna go too and humbly peter
- 54:25said lord where will i go you have the words of life peter was smart enough
- 54:31in that moment to know there was nowhere to run to you're,
- 54:35the only one that knows anything, and I'm sticking with you, Jesus.
- 54:39A church should not give people just people to sit beside.
- 54:43You have to help people become more like Christ, and the healthiest churches
- 54:47or online ministries are those that help you become more like Christ.
- 54:54The healthiest churches are those that teach the Word of God,
- 54:57that they discipline you, they love you, they depend on the Holy Spirit to transform
- 55:02lives, and this is the pattern of the New Testament.
- 55:05So, if you are in a church that doesn't do these things, get out and find one that does.
- 55:12If you are with an online minister that doesn't do these things,
- 55:16cut the broadcast off and find one that does like me. I will be happy to correct you.
- 55:22It's my great joy to correct people like Jesus did, Because I get corrected,
- 55:29Exactly No to same-sex weddings That's right Absolutely no to that.
- 55:35Whoo, Lord Jesus. See if I missed any else comments. That's my brother's story too.
- 55:39Good for Josh. That's right. Amen. Praise the Lord. You're glad I'm still on? Me too, Steph.
- 55:44I started real late. All right. So you can follow me Monday through Friday.
- 55:48I'm on here preaching at random times. I like to keep you on your toes,
- 55:50but I am trying so hard to just come on at 8.30 a.m. I'm just failing miserably.
- 55:55So see, God needs to work on me too.
- 55:57Also, you can come to our Bible study. I got to call it that for now.
- 56:013171 New Highway 7. If you're in Tennessee, Santa Fe, come and join me 10 a.m.
- 56:05On Sundays, 6 p.m. on Wednesdays for a church that will change you. Amen? Okay.
- 56:12There you go. Fellowship is good, and yes, you should have that.
- 56:15But it also needs to be a place where you can be corrected. And if you're never
- 56:18corrected, if you're never uncomfortable, you're in the wrong spot. Amen?
- 56:23All right. So what do we do now?
- 56:26We ask the Lord to help us. We ask God to protect us.
- 56:30We ask God, Father, help me to change. Help me to be who you've called me to be.
- 56:37Help me, God. I want to be different. I want to be changed. I don't want to be the same.
- 56:42I need to do something different than my family's done. I need to hear from heaven. Amen?
- 56:48And if you'll do that, you can be restored. You can be redeemed. You can be changed.
- 56:52God can help you. You can live a life of blessing, of holiness,
- 56:57of all this stuff. Amen? them. All right, let's pray.
- 57:00Father, I thank you so much for all these people that are watching right now.
- 57:05I thank you for your favor and protection on them.
- 57:10I thank you that you're doing great things in their life. I thank you,
- 57:14God, for the blessing of the Lord that makes them rich and adds no sorrow.
- 57:21God, I pray for every need on here today. If you need healing in your body,
- 57:24may the Lord Jesus of Nazareth heal you. May he strengthen you. May he bless you.
- 57:29May his mighty hand of faith, power, and protection be upon you even now in the name of Jesus.
- 57:37Thank you, Father. If you don't know Jesus, just repent.
- 57:41He's gonna come back and you wanna make sure you know him and he died for your
- 57:44sins so you don't have to. Say, Father, I am sorry.
- 57:47Jesus, forgive me. Come into my heart and be the Lord of my life.
- 57:50If you said that simple prayer, just like that, you can be saved,
- 57:53healed, redeemed, transformed.
- 57:55Now, for those of you watching, I'm going to believe, God, that you're going
- 57:57to change. Father God, I pray the Ephesians prayers over every viewer today,
- 58:01that the God who gives them wisdom, that they'll have wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of you.
- 58:06You would open up the eyes of their understanding. You would enlighten their heart.
- 58:10You will change them, that they're not interested in being comfortable,
- 58:13but they're interested in being more like you.
- 58:16I thank you, God, so much for each and every person watching live right now.
- 58:20May your hand of faith and power be upon them may your mighty hand of strength
- 58:25go before them may blessing come may they laugh today may they have joy today
- 58:30may god just supernaturally and radically
- 58:33bless them amen all right
- 58:36i love you guys so much if you want to sow a financial seed and help us feed
- 58:41these kids and do the other things we're doing.
- 58:44You can go to PreachAtLisa.com. You can sow a financial seed.
- 58:51Somebody can give $100,000, $200,000, $1,000. One day someone will give $5 million,
- 58:56and I can go get my mega complex, and I can help the youth and help the drug
- 59:01addicts, and I can help the elderly, and I can help the unwed mothers,
- 59:04and we can do some good things.
- 59:06So, Lord, thank you for big givers right now in Jesus' name.
- 59:10$1 million, $2 million, $5 million, $150,000, $1,000. coming to me in Jesus' name.
- 59:15Go to preachatlisa.com. Hit give.
- 59:18You got it. I love you guys so much. May the God of faith and power be upon you.
- 59:23May your day be better. May you always easily transform. Just repent. God, I'm sorry.
- 59:29Whatever he's telling you to do, do it. Just do it.
- 59:33And tell someone about the broadcast. Take this broadcast and text message it
- 59:37to somebody. You can do that. Yes, you can get prayer. What do you need, butterfly wolves?
- 59:43Thank you, Jesus!
- 59:53Thank you, Lord, for this butterfly world, person, whatever they need in the
- 59:56name of Jesus. You know what it is. Bless them, strengthen them, help them.
- 1:00:01Don't forget, follow me.
- 1:00:05Follow me, follow me, follow me, follow me.
- 1:00:09I'm gonna look at some of my videos real quick. Don't forget to follow me on
- 1:00:11social media. Look, right here, you see this? My YouTube channel, at the Lisa Hanson.
- 1:00:16Look at all this goodness right here. Subscribe, follow, and subscribe.
- 1:00:21Don't forget to do that. Here's some more of my songs. I've got my other songs that are on here.
- 1:00:26Here, let's listen to this one. You have victory?
- 1:00:30Victory over the devil. There's all kinds of songs.
- 1:00:35Okay. Lord, I thank you that everyone gets what they need and that you're going
- 1:00:39to bless them and change them. Go check out my songs on YouTube.
- 1:00:42If you're on iTunes, look for Sheikah, S-H-I-K-A, Fate. I look like a black woman.
- 1:00:50It's cute. I like it. I'll show it to you real quick so you know what you're
- 1:00:53looking for go get my songs download them they're fun,
- 1:00:57I'm gonna add some more I just need to do you know what I need to do maybe I
- 1:01:00need to do a preach at Lisa album because I've got some more songs I just haven't
- 1:01:03produced yet but I need you,
- 1:01:07so let me show you what she could faith looks like,
- 1:01:11I love my songs that I wrote with AI.
- 1:01:17All right, see this? That's what you're looking for, okay?
- 1:01:23There you go. So go get my songs. They're inspiring. You can just put them on.
- 1:01:27You can, it's three songs right now. Read it again, Victory Over the Devil,
- 1:01:30and he will do it again. I think I have another one somewhere.
- 1:01:34But I'm going to add some more songs to it.
- 1:01:39You need to just do a whole album, which I will do. But anyway,
- 1:01:44you just go on there, and you get these songs, and you dance around your house
- 1:01:47and you have victory. I've got a two-step in song. I think I've played it for you before.
- 1:01:52See if I can find it for you real quick before I go off. Pray for us as I pray
- 1:01:57for you. I got a lot on my heart I want to do, but I need help. So.
- 1:02:03You can follow me on Suno. This is me on Suno. Preach at Lisa everywhere else. Not the tail.
- 1:02:10Say it. Above. Not beneath. Say it. Never lose. Always win.
- 1:02:18I gotta pause it. I love this song. I've forgotten how much I love this song.
- 1:02:21Okay, but here's another one.
- 1:02:23This is called—this is probably one of my favorite ones that I've written.
- 1:02:27Oh, is that a video now? I don't know what that is. Hold on.
- 1:02:32It's called Come Back to the Garden. I wrote it for myself.
- 1:02:45I created you for me I wrote it because as ministers, sometimes we think we
- 1:02:51just got to do all this power and stuff, but God actually created me for him.
- 1:02:56I think Josh should like this song. I need to send it to you.
- 1:02:58Come walk with me where mercy grows, where living water softly flows.
- 1:03:04Come walk with me and I will speak the secret things you've longed to reach.
- 1:03:11Not every answer comes in line,
- 1:03:30Anyway, I'll post some of these later. You're going to like them. They're good.
- 1:03:34I love y'all. Have a blessed day. Come on.