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Hour 1: Thomas Crooks info · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Finally, finally, Larry, Natalie, and a massive audience out there.
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  Speaker 1: We have information about a name that would not resonate
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  Speaker 1: with most people. Thomas Matthew Crooks. Thomas Matthew Crooks. I
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  Speaker 1: always say never trust anybody with three names, but there
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there who like to
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  Speaker 1: be recognized by three names.
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  Speaker 2: How about anybody with the last name Crooks?
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  Speaker 1: Well, slowly I turn step-by-step back to July 13th of
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  Speaker 1: 2020 for Warren Butler. The president, then-citizen Trump, is having
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  Speaker 1: a huge rally before going on to Milwaukee for the
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  Speaker 1: Republican National Convention, where obviously they would officially give him
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  Speaker 1: the nomination. And then he would go on to run
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  Speaker 1: for the presidency. But it was Thomas Crooks Butler who
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  Speaker 1: had crawled on top of that building, got access to
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  Speaker 1: within shooting site of then-citizen Trump, and within the barest
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  Speaker 1: of minimal space, could easily have killed the president as
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  Speaker 1: he shot multiple times, or maybe rendered him incapable of continuing.
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  Speaker 1: Thank God he moved his head ever so slightly, and
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  Speaker 1: that was avoided. But I know both you, Larry, I,
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  Speaker 1: and so many citizens out there said, okay, they killed
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  Speaker 1: this guy, Thomas Matthew Crooks. Should be able to get
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  Speaker 1: a profile on him. It turned out he was a
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  Speaker 1: young guy. And we were waiting for volumes of information
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  Speaker 1: because we know if the government wasn't going to provide it,
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  Speaker 1: there would be reporters, intrepid reporters. They would be knocking
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  Speaker 1: on doors. They would be digging up all information. And
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, remember, Larry was like almost nothing.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost as if he didn't exist. We know that
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  Speaker 1: Trump was almost killed, but little if anything came.
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  Speaker 2: Out about this guy.
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  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden there were different stories
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  Speaker 1: about him that conflicted with one another. And we always said, well,
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  Speaker 1: why haven't we heard from the father and the mother?
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  Speaker 1: who raised him in their house along with their daughter.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed like nobody had talked to the father or mother.
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  Speaker 1: We just assumed that they wouldn't talk. Well, lo and behold,
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  Speaker 1: Senator Grassley of Iowa had hearings in which they had
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  Speaker 1: access to the father. His name is Matthew. And he,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like he took the Code of Emeritus or
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  Speaker 1: the Fifth Amendment.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: The father was talking all about him from birth, meaning
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  Speaker 1: the shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks, from birth to his demise.
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  Speaker 1: So the father tells the grass league committee, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was a little strange because upon birth,
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  Speaker 1: he never screamed. You know, when they hit him on
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  Speaker 1: his backside, he wasn't yelling. He wasn't screaming. And at
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  Speaker 1: a very young age, he was always very quiet, pretty
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  Speaker 1: much to himself, very solemn. And at that point, he
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  Speaker 1: said it was very difficult to have a father-son relationship,
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  Speaker 1: as much as I tried, because he rarely expressed emotion.
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  Speaker 1: He hardly laughed. He was hard to make out. And
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  Speaker 1: then in elementary school, he seemed to be bored in school.
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  Speaker 1: So I tried to engage him. I'm trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out what is it that my son might like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that would elicit some kind of emotion. And then in
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  Speaker 1: junior high school, he took a turn. This is the shooter,
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Matthew Crooks. We thought, meaning he and his wife
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  Speaker 1: thought he might have ADHD, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. and
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  Speaker 1: he went for some counseling about that. He started hanging
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  Speaker 1: out with the bad kids. He was starting to become
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  Speaker 1: a bad boy, so we did an intervention. Then in
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  Speaker 1: high school, he does a complete turn. He becomes stoic.
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  Speaker 1: He's almost like a lone wolf, and he had an
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  Speaker 1: issue with some of his teachers because he started talking
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  Speaker 1: to himself on occasion, both in the hallways, in the classroom,
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  Speaker 1: and even at home, and so we said, oh, my,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we're going to have to Get him more in-depth counseling.
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  Speaker 1: So apparently the parents are trying. It's not like, hey, kid,
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  Speaker 1: go up in your room, lock yourself in it. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. But then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden he started to binge. He starts studying. He's taking
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  Speaker 1: college preparatory courses. He was really into it.
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  Speaker 2: He got 1,400 on his SATs. That's the first time.
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  Speaker 2: The second time he got 1,500. 1,500.
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  Speaker 1: Larry combined my SATs.
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  Speaker 2: Combined. Weren't even 800. How many times did you take them? Twice.
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  Speaker 1: I had my number two sharpened pencils that my mother
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  Speaker 1: Francesca gave me with my two chocolate bars for energy.
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  Speaker 1: At Midwood High School, they sent you to take it
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  Speaker 1: at a public high school on a Saturday. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I thought SAT meant. Saturday, you know, that's when you
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  Speaker 1: took those tests right next to Brooklyn College. I had
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  Speaker 1: miserable scores. This kid is like, wow. So the parents
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  Speaker 1: are going, wow, he's really making us proud. Now he's
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  Speaker 1: talking about joining the Navy. He wants to work on
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  Speaker 1: a nuclear submarine. So I have a father and son
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  Speaker 1: talk with him. Hey, you don't seem to be interested
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  Speaker 1: in girls. Ah, but I'm not gay. You know, I'm just, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fighting myself, dad.
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  Speaker 2: And then he got into shooting guns, which a lot
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  Speaker 2: of young guys are into. Especially that part of the country. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They love shooting guns.
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  Speaker 1: And the father was a gun owner and the grandfather
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  Speaker 1: was a gun owner. So it was in their family.
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  Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden he goes, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: not into hunting and fishing like you and grandpa. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, dad, do I have to get a background
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  Speaker 1: check in order to buy your Glock gun? So the
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  Speaker 1: kid is like into it.
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  Speaker 2: He's online.
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  Speaker 1: He's researching gun ownership, asked if he could have his
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  Speaker 1: grandpa's guns, which, as you know, in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania families, especially out there outside of Pittsburgh, western Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 1: in the more suburban rural areas, that's a tradition. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you pass down the guns from granddad to daddy to child.
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  Speaker 1: And because of the pandemic, the father, Matthew, decides to
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  Speaker 1: register him into a gun club. He couldn't hit a
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  Speaker 1: paper target if his life depended on him. So for
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  Speaker 1: four or five years, he's practicing. He's practicing. He loves
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  Speaker 1: going to the range. Everybody says this kid can't shoot.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he couldn't hit the side of a bar.
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  Speaker 2: Suddenly, he becomes a good shooter.
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  Speaker 1: He buys a prism sight, and he starts zeroing in
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  Speaker 1: on his target. So the father's proud of him. Hey, kid,
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  Speaker 1: you came a long way. Couldn't hit the broad side
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  Speaker 1: of a bar. Now, man, you hit that target right.
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  Speaker 2: In the middle.
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  Speaker 1: And he's going online and he's buying products through who?
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos' Amazon. Because he wants to order parts, tools,
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  Speaker 1: and items to increase the capacity of his rifle.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all unusual. But because his.
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  Speaker 1: Dad had had his checking account hacked at Citizens Bank,
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  Speaker 1: he becomes a little paranoid because the father, Matthew, is paranoid.
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  Speaker 1: So he goes, you know, I'm going to use the
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  Speaker 1: name Bob Dole. I mean, who would the hell use
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  Speaker 1: the name of the former U.S. senator from Kansas, Bob Dole,
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  Speaker 1: because he believed that he might get hacked?
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  Speaker 2: But that was also the first hint that he was political.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That was the first time people thought, hey, this kid
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  Speaker 2: knows politics.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, think about it, Larry. Who would even know
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  Speaker 1: about Bob Dole at his age, right?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly. So that is a key point that he
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  Speaker 2: used Bob Dole's name because it's a key point because
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden— He had some, he was paying
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  Speaker 2: attention to politics, very smart, and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: his mind's in politics. But he's got this glitch.
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  Speaker 1: He's paranoid about identity, people finding out identity. So his dad, Matthew,
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  Speaker 1: teaches him to use identity-obscuring software, CyberGhost, UPN, and the
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  Speaker 1: Bravest Browser. And he uses multiple different privacy-focused encrypted email providers,
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  Speaker 1: including GMX and MailFence.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea what those things are. I know.
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  Speaker 1: So the kid is already like into that world. The
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  Speaker 1: dad is interacting with him because he's teaching him some
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  Speaker 1: of this. So it's not like he's learning this from
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  Speaker 1: his friends or he's in his room and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's cyber surfing and learning all these things himself on
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  Speaker 1: the dark web. It's almost like a father and his son.
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  Speaker 2: A little unusual, but.
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  Speaker 1: You know, but not all that unusual from a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fathers and sons growing up, particularly in that part
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  Speaker 1: of western Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read a lot of this, and I was
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  Speaker 2: kind of disappointed that we found out you just gave
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  Speaker 2: a wealth of information about him. We found out all
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  Speaker 2: that information about him. Why did he shoot the president? Why?
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  Speaker 2: Where was that in all of that report? Why did
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  Speaker 2: he go out and shoot the president? So my feeling
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  Speaker 2: is sometimes with this kind of information that is fascinating,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, that gets released. But we still don't
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  Speaker 2: know why he got so many shots off. We still
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  Speaker 2: don't know why he got up there. We still don't know.
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  Speaker 2: why they cremated the body. We still don't know exactly
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  Speaker 2: what he was. So I think that many times they
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  Speaker 2: drip this kind of stuff out. So we'll talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about it a lot. We feel like they're
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  Speaker 2: now disclosing stuff. It's been over two years. It's been
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  Speaker 2: over two years and we still don't know what his
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  Speaker 2: motivation was. And we still don't know why they hid
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  Speaker 2: so much information. We don't know why they're just leaving
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  Speaker 2: this stuff out now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, That's the interesting part, is Grassley's committee obviously did
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  Speaker 1: a deep dive. Not that deep. No, but went to
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  Speaker 1: talk to the father. The father didn't say, sorry, do
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  Speaker 1: you have a warrant? You know, I'm not at liberty
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  Speaker 1: to discuss anything.
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  Speaker 2: But Curtis, the key questions are still out there. But
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  Speaker 2: it's been a long time for those key questions to
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  Speaker 2: still be out there. Very simple questions. And nobody talked.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to the state police. Talk to the medical examiner
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  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. They got a lot to say. Talk to
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  Speaker 2: all those people. This stuff's fascinating. It's really important, but
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't get to the core issue.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and you see the fact that they've released some.
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  Speaker 1: It's like anything. They released the Epstein files.
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  Speaker 2: You want more.
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  Speaker 1: You release files now the CIA are on the involvement
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  Speaker 1: of Bush and Clinton and not doing anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they don't release the stuff that's top secrets. There's
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  Speaker 2: going to be some stuff that's blacked out that we're
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  Speaker 2: never going to know, and we should know. We should know.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe you're right. I'm hoping you're an optimist in this.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're right. I hope you're saying that this
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  Speaker 2: is released and there's more to come. My feeling is
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  Speaker 2: we're never going to know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that may well be true, but I would have
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  Speaker 1: never thought after all this time, almost 800 days, that
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  Speaker 1: we would ever learn anything until both of us were
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  Speaker 1: dead and, you know, something was unearthed that we were
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  Speaker 1: all not aware of.
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  Speaker 2: But did that tell you anything about why he shot
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  Speaker 2: the president?
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  Speaker 1: No, but it also indicated that it wasn't what people
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  Speaker 1: were trying to say initially.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know. We don't know when he turned. He
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  Speaker 2: obviously turned, and that's not in there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, now that the father obviously has been a
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  Speaker 1: willing participant, because we thought the family would not participate
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  Speaker 1: with anyone, I think it's incumbent— that people try to
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  Speaker 1: talk with the family and get in on the public record.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about the media. I'm sure they already know.
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  Speaker 2: Many of the questions I'm asking right now, I think
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  Speaker 2: they know the answers to. And I think that's not
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  Speaker 2: being released. And this is a little bit being released
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  Speaker 2: so we can say, look, they're being transparent. They are
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  Speaker 2: not being transparent. Did anybody watch the Emmys last night?
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  Speaker 1: No, we cut the cord a long time ago. My
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  Speaker 1: wife's a millennial, Nancy. No TV, none of those other services,
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  Speaker 1: Hulu and the rest of them.
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  Speaker 2: I got through a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: The beginning was rough.
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  Speaker 2: Does anybody know any of the shows? Well, that's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many shows now. I mean, it used to be,
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  Speaker 2: the Emmys used to be a big deal, a really
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  Speaker 2: big deal, because it was like three networks, and then
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  Speaker 2: Fox started to come up, and then you had four networks,
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  Speaker 2: and everybody watched the same shows. Everybody knew ER. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: knew Seinfeld. Everybody knew the top shows. Widow's Bay.
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  Speaker 4: That one got me. I said, okay, I don't think
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  Speaker 4: I've even heard of this one. If it wasn't going
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: to be Abbott Elementary, I.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't know any of them. I was like, I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the only one I've seen.
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  Speaker 4: It's sad.
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  Speaker 2: It's too much. If you saw what it was being,
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  Speaker 2: you can rave about it. Leave us a talk back.
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  Speaker 2: But The Pit, I know my wife watches.
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  Speaker 4: And my husband watches that, too.
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  Speaker 2: Not together. Maybe they do. They've left us out.
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  Speaker 1: The only Pit I know is Brad Pitt. He's not
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  Speaker 1: in it.
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  Speaker 2: No, this is a ripoff of E.R., Oh, okay. But
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  Speaker 2: very popular.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I've seen the advertisement. So this is on what? Hulu?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Who knows? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's not something that we have to click 10 buttons
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  Speaker 4: to get to.
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  Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question. It costs a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money to do these programs. A lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they have sets. They have costumes. They have stars, starlets.
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  Speaker 1: Where are they generating income from if apparently a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people are not watching these programs?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, they're making a lot of money. They're making
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money. They still have some of the
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  Speaker 2: same audiences that they used to have. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they sell them to the streaming services. Then they put
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  Speaker 2: them out in reruns afterwards. Trust me, there is still
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  Speaker 2: money to be made. Guess who won for best talk show?
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Take a guess. He's no longer on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Very good. Very good. Stephen Colbert, of course.
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  Speaker 3: The thing about these late shows is that besides being
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  Speaker 3: a really good, steady job, is that they require so
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  Speaker 3: many people that they're a fantastic incubator for young people
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  Speaker 3: to come in, to learn to work professionally on a deadline,
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  Speaker 3: in cooperation, in collaboration. And that is the future of
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  Speaker 3: our business that we have to look after.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. I wish I had that 15 seconds back. I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't have played that. More importantly, the pits on HBO Max.
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  Speaker 2: And if you want to watch it, that's where you
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  Speaker 2: find it. Yeah, that came in second. That had double
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  Speaker 2: digit Emmys as well. Taylor Swift, they made a big
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  Speaker 2: deal because she made an appearance in a video. So
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  Speaker 2: this is the first time we've really seen her since
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  Speaker 2: the wedding. But stealing the show was Reba McEntire doing
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  Speaker 2: a tribute to Dolly Parton.
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  Speaker 5: Appalachian memories keep me strong.
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  Speaker 2: That was beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Now let me ask you a question. You mentioned Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 1: I saw Taylor Swift last night in the box as a,
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  Speaker 1: As the Kansas City Chiefs and her boy toy caught
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  Speaker 1: a like 57-yard pass at the end and the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: beat the Denver Broncos. I saw her because all the
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  Speaker 1: cameras were on her. Oh, there's Taylor Swift. She's ruined
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. She's ruined it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: To her credit, she's asked them to please limit the
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  Speaker 2: amount of times that you show me. Remember, they were
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  Speaker 2: showing her so much, she one time got booed. And she,
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  Speaker 2: that was probably, that was probably some awareness right there.
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  Speaker 1: We had to find out that Tom Cruise was sitting
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  Speaker 1: next to her in the box.
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  Speaker 2: Who cares? There's a whole lot of people that cared.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL loves having her at the game. Trust me.
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  Speaker 2: They have a whole new audience now because of Taylor Swift. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: but let's talk about Bob Mackie real quickly because he
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  Speaker 2: used to do the, the costume design for the, the
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  Speaker 2: Emmys and for just about everything else. Uh, Mackie died
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  Speaker 2: at the age of 87. He's very well known in
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  Speaker 2: New York, of course. He was the costume designer for
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  Speaker 2: many plays. Natalie, you've talked to him before.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did have the opportunity to do an interview
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  Speaker 4: with him once. Really nice guy. down-to-earth guy. Like, it
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  Speaker 4: was amazing. And then when you see his costumes, iconic
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  Speaker 4: costumes that you would think of Cher. They were sparkles
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  Speaker 4: and glitz and rhinestones and sequins. He even did, I
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  Speaker 4: found out this morning, the dress that Marilyn Monroe wore
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  Speaker 4: when she sang Happy Birthday to President Kennedy.
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  Speaker 2: Just about every famous dress that you can imagine, it
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  Speaker 2: always comes back to Bob Mackie. So we've lost a
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  Speaker 2: great one. at the age of 87. Let's get the
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  Speaker 2: news now at 6.30 with Daria Albinger. Hey, Daria. Hey, morning, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Sunny and cooler today. Feels like fall.
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  Speaker 7: We'll see a high of 71 degrees.
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  Speaker 2: It's a hoax.
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  Speaker 7: That's what President Trump says about the warnings that we've
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  Speaker 7: been hearing about the possible dangers of artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 8: The president, over the phone, spoke to NVIDIA CEO Jensen
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  Speaker 8: Huang at a tech summit in LA.
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  Speaker 2: We have to be a little bit careful.
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  Speaker 9: We have to very be, you know, we have to
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  Speaker 9: do things, and we have to do them prudently.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean we're going to stop an industry.
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  Speaker 8: Earlier, Trump posted, the only guardrails AI needs are a
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  Speaker 8: strong and smart, high IQ president. And he claimed the
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  Speaker 8: doomsday warnings are a sick conspiracy. But the fear is
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: now crossing party lines.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: That's ABC's Karen Hua.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: The White House says thousands of people carried out covert
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: era loan fraud schemes. Vice President Vance, Attorney General Todd Blanch,
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: and FBI Director Kash Patel making the announcement at the
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: FBI's Kansas City headquarters They say the Small Business Administration
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: has suspended nearly 870,000 borrowers over an estimated $ 39 billion
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: in suspected fraud. The New York Regents exam may not
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: be a requirement. for graduation from high school for much longer.
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: There's been a long-time push to eliminate the exams as
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: a prerequisite for a diploma, with the Daily News now
• 18:07
  Speaker 9: reporting the Board of Regents is moving to do just that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: The board voted to greenlight a plan Monday whereby current
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: seniors will become the last class required to take and
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: pass the tests to graduate. Education Department Commissioner Betty Rosa
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: told the outlet they've been studying, quote, what elite private
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: schools provide for their students, and they do not worry
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: about the regents' exam. Schools are being instructed to develop
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: alternative local assessment strategies, and the exams can still be
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: used to gauge other standards, but if the board has
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: its way, passing the regents won't hold up diplomas anymore.
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: Liz Warner, WOR News.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: And the Carnegie Deli returns to 7th Avenue today. It's
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: reopening between 53rd And 54th Street's just steps from its
• 18:49
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• 18:52
  Speaker 7: win over Minneapolis. The Mets are out after a loss
• 18:55
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• 19:00
  Speaker 7: Next news, 7 o'clock bulletins at once. I'm Daria Albinger
• 19:03
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• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Daria. Well, Zoran Mamdani and Letitia James hold
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: a news conference. And what else could it be about?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: They are suing the federal government so your money can
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: keep going down. to those who are here illegally. We'll
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: discuss it when we come back. In the meantime, I
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: want to tell you about something that happened in Rialto, California.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: And this shows you that choking can happen anytime. It
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: was a three-year-old coming back from a birthday party and
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: he started choking on his own vomit and the mother
• 19:36
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• 19:40
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• 19:43
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• 19:47
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• 20:14
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• 20:19
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• 20:23
  Speaker 2: 6,000 lives, including now a little boy in Rialto, California,
• 20:29
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• 20:49
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• 20:52
  Speaker 2: it counts. something about the public charge rule, because that's
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: what this is all about. And that's what's missing from
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: many of the reports about this. The public charge rule
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: has always been around. And the public charge rule is
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: that we should decide who comes into this country, right?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: So you can deny a visa. This is already in place.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: It's been around for a long time. You can deny
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: a visa application if based on the likelihood that that
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: applicant will not be working but will be sucking money
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: out of the system, that they'll get public benefits. So
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: if they're a net loss for the United States, we
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: don't want them here. If they're going to contribute and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: we have a benefit from them being here, then we
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: want them here. That has been the law for decades. Well,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: now the Trump administration wants to expand that law to
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: those who are already here. So if you are here
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: illegally and you are just sucking off the system, you're
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: getting welfare, maybe you're committing fraud, like we've been finding
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: out across the country, we don't want you here anymore.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And that's going to take effect on Friday. And that's
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: why Letitia James and Zoram Mamdani had their press conference,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and there were similar press conferences across the country, because
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: several cities have joined together in this. All Democratic cities,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: by the way, all trying to protect their voting base.
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: When families lose health coverage, they may delay care until
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: they are forced to seek more expensive care at the
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: emergency department. When families stop receiving food assistance, grocery stores
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: and other small businesses lose customers. The downstream effects will
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: hurt our economy.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: No, it won't. If you notice, all of the attention
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: is on the illegals, not the people that have to
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: pay for them being here and the millions that are
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: here illegally. Not anything about that. It's all on the illegals.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: And it was the most draconian thing. They were telling you, well, here,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: here's your own mom, Donnie.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: It is estimated that up to 4 million people from
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: across the country could unenroll from their health care alone,
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: including 1.8 million children. None of this is abstract. People
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: could die.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: People could die. If this goes into effect, people are
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: going to die or they could go back.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: They're not going back.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Come on, Larry.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: No, but I mean, they have an option. If they're
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: not going to get public funds, you're smiling like you
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: want to give public funds to them.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Don't extrapolate what I'm thinking. Yeah, but I mean, why
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: are you laughing at that? They're not going back. Understand that.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: They're going to slip through the cracks. Do you want
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: them to go back?
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: No.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Let me explain.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Let me explain, okay?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Before you all of a sudden interpret what my smile is.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: They slip through the cracks. They don't go back.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Some might. Most won't.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: So you have a situation where if you go back
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to the old school way of doing things.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Can I say one thing? There was no crack. It
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: was a wide open border that let them go through.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: But go ahead. Understood.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: But now that you're going to eliminate benefits, they're not
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: going to suddenly say, well, let's go back to Mexico
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: or wherever we're from because we're better off there than here.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Handful, yes. Most, no.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: They just they get into the shadows. So the old
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: school way was you had to have a sponsor. And
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: that's really what the Trump administration is saying, is if
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you're over here and you're applying for a green card
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: or a visa, we're not going to be paying for
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: any benefits. You have to have a sponsor. This is
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the way it used to be. If you don't have
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a sponsor, you can't come. I remember my grandfather went
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: through that. Lots of immigrants went through that, especially those
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: who came through Ellis Island.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: So that is the preferred method.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Instead of you just coming and then saying, well, I
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: have no means of existence, of subsistence, so now what
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: are the different programs that I can apply for? The
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: only area I would say that's a little difficult is
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: if a legal family is very sick. They will go
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to the emergency ward. You almost have to provide care
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: for them, especially if they have a disease that could
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: affect other people. You can't turn them away from the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: emergency room. You just can't do that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: No, I know. I get that.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Public health would demand that you have to see them
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and you have to care for them.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Unless they weren't here in the first place. Then they
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have to see them. You know, it all goes
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: back to this. I always hear every time this is
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: brought up, every time an issue is brought up like this,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of words and there's a whole
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: lot of programs when it's a very simple thing. People
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: came here illegally. They shouldn't be here. If they can't contribute,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: they shouldn't be here. If they can contribute, then yes,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: we should get a pathway for them. But if they're
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: just sucking public funds, why do all the– wait a second.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Why do all the rest of us have to pay
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: for that? Are you going to smile again? I'm offering
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the alternative. You spoke a lot. You're not listening to me.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Just stop. I listened to every word you just said.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I'm proposing what Bruce Blakeman is talking about now, which
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: is a pathway for those who have been here, who
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: have been working for seven years.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Much different issue.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Completely different issue. This is what I'm doing. I know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: but why? I mean, so you laugh at when I
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: said it, and now you're saying if people are here
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and contribute, they should stay. Nobody's saying they should leave.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: That's not part of this.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to give credit to Bruce Blakeman here who's
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: running for the governorship because Hochul is certainly supporting Tish
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: James and Zoran Mondami in the 22 state. So Blakeman
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: yesterday has said what he's been saying regularly, but now
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: he's getting traction because the polls indicate it's a tightened race.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: So he's saying, hey, look, let's have the guest worker program.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: You've mentioned this before, Larry. He said, if you've been
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: here seven years and you haven't committed any crimes, Let's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: give you an opportunity to eventually get a green card,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: if you want to stay here, and continue to be productive,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: particularly if you're working on a farm or in hospitality
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: or healthcare or landscapes.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: We give you that opportunity so there's an incentive.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: So I figure if you've been here seven years and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you've stayed out.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Of trouble, that's a pretty good record there.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: New York right now is legally barred from issuing work permits.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: so i would put all my efforts into supporting uh...
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: government candidate bruce blakeman because if that could be put
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: into effect then obviously we're making ground but my initial uh.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: statement is most of these people are not going to
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: go back well except here's two things that what you
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: talked about is wonderful i i actually agree with that
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: if somebody's here in these contributing if somebody's contributing they
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: should have a pathway to citizenship What Donald Trump is
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: talking about is the exact opposite of that. He's talking
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: about the people that get here and just suck money
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: off the system. And we keep paying it. So we,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the taxpayers, are paying for them. He's saying they should go.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: They should not be allowed to have visas. There's no
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: pathway to citizenship for them. We got to stop soaking
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the American taxpayer. You would agree with that, right?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: But this is a little different version. Blakeman is breaking
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit from the Trump plan.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: He's talking about somebody completely different than what Trump's talking about.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: He's talking about people that contribute. Trump's talking about people
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: that don't contribute at all.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Let's say if they are contributing and then all of
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a sudden they have to go for social services. they
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: would not be able to get social services. That's really
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: what this rule says. But let's hold it off to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a different day, because up next, apparently there are people
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: who are trying to live a life by going into
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the sewers and scavenging for materials. Yes, another group has
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: surfaced in Middle Village. There was one out in Long Island.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: It's a growing effort, and.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I'll update you.
• 29:09
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• 29:12
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  Speaker 1: and Saturday night. The mole people are at it again.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: coming out of sewers at four o'clock in the morning,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: coming to a neighborhood near you. They hit Middle Village
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: at four in the morning. One guy was seen getting out.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: He had the light on his head. He had the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: gear on. And there were four other guys surrounding him
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: as he was working his way out of the sewer hole.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And then they jumped into a car and they disappeared.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: This coming on the heels of in late August, even
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: out of Nassau County in Wontoree. where they came out
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: with headlamps, looked like they were doing some kind of
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: work in the sewer. Before that, Madison Square Garden by
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Penn Station, four in the morning, Gravesend and Williamsburg before that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: So clearly, this is like a cottage industry. So with
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: so many of these situations taking place, I'm somewhat of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: an expert having been down in the sewers, you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: where you have sewage, you have water pipes, and then
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the other sewers have to do with Verizon cables, gas lines,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: especially in Manhattan, you know, steam, because that's how they
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: heat up all these buildings, is that they must be
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: scavenging because they got their headlights on. It's as if
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: they were in a coal mine in western Pennsylvania. No
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: parakeet there because the gases down there can sometimes asphyxiate you,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: but they don't seem to have a handle as to
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: who they are and who are they fencing.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Whatever products.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Now, maybe the reason they picked Middle Village, maybe, I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: have no idea. But recently, remember, that was hit with floods.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: So a lot of stuff was floating around all over
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the place from basements and first floors, maybe a value
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that then went down into the catch basins and get
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: lodged down in the sewers because they have screens down there.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: So maybe that's why they picked that location.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: But boy, you would.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Think that by now they would have a handle on this,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: both the Department of Environmental Protection that manages the sewer
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: systems and obviously the NYPD. But no, they could be
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: coming out of a sewer cap near you and your neighborhood,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: but usually about four in the morning when there's shift
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: change with the police department.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Now, CBS reported last night that they did grab a
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: couple of these guys. They let them go, but they
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: grabbed a couple of these guys, and they said they
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: were down there looking for treasure, which I don't understand
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: why there's no charges for that. I don't get it,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: but they were apparently just let go. I'm fascinated by
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: these people. You were the first one to talk about them,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm fascinated by these people. If I was a
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: movie producer, I'd be thinking, this is a movie.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: This would be a great, what an incredible, for any
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: kind of movie, whether you just want to talk about
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: them and what they do and looking for treasure and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: end with them finding treasure or not finding treasure or
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: a murder mystery. Ah, yeah.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of murders, as you know, in New York,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you could pretty much kill somebody and get released, not
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: even get a ticket.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: That's true. You know, no cash bail. So it is
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: interesting that if.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: You had the four originally that you grabbed and you
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: questioned them, And hopefully they got their ID. They'd be
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: staying in touch with them and say, hey, you know, guys,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: we did you a solid. It's got to be part
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: of a network. It's got to be a place that
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you fence this stuff. It's not like you walk into
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: a pawn shop and you say, hey, well, what can
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you give me for this? So they probably have a
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: wholesaler out there who's pretty much telling these guys when
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: they scavenge down in the stores. And some of them
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: probably haven't been picked up yet on video yet. is
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: what do you got? And then they negotiate a price.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: But I'm thinking Middle Village because they got hit bad
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: with floods.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: They always do.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But then you lose stuff from your basement, first floor.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of times it goes in a sewer, the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: catch basin. And so they figure like we're prospecting.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: That makes a whole lot of sense. Now you've been
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: on top of this story. So great job. Because I
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: think it's going to turn into something much bigger than
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: this if it just keeps happening.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe I'll do a YouTube special. I'll go
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: down there and find these guys and just throw it
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: up on YouTube. You don't even have to have a
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: movie or a documentary or anything like that.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Well, you know you're not going to get arrested, so.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: They're not going to charge you with anything. Nothing.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: You can do anything in New York City and you
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: never get charged.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Hey, coming up in the next hour, I came in,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: as both Natalie and Curtis can tell you, I was
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: irate this morning because of a story that that has
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: not been covered. And it's not been covered, you can
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: guess why, for all the wrong reasons. We're going to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: be talking about that later in the next hour. But
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: coming up next, we're going to be talking about the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: mystery deepening, first of all, but also John Decker is
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: going to be talking about what else. That's all they're
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: talking about in Washington right now. AI. John Decker coming
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: up next. It's 7 o'clock.