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Club 520 - Norris Cole on playing with LeBron & Miami Heat, Ray Allen’s shot in 2013 NBA Finals · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: My name is DJ Well. Special guests in a building.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna introduce my man's last. But to my far
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  Speaker 1: I left my dog. BI should be hearing out the
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  Speaker 1: get to a baby another one. Okay, say out of uniform,
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  Speaker 1: but it's all good. It's all good. Hey Norse, you
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You and me and West Kid.
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: But you have you ever seen them feats over there?
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: The black forces with the white license.
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen those before.
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  Speaker 1: I get you up here, bro, you were like that,
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  Speaker 1: I guess now, so you can you see a nigga
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  Speaker 1: at the gas sation of the opposite direction. He got
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  Speaker 1: his own license now too, though, so yeah up, yeah
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  Speaker 1: shoe licens might mean my own licens, bro, So shout
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: out to the cavalry.
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  Speaker 5: That's where it started.
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  Speaker 2: We try to spread the Black fortes across the world.
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: That's about right, my dog. You're not sure your tea?
• 2:12
  Speaker 4: How you wre man?
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: I'm chilling, bro, I'm cool.
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. We got my guy in the building. Still
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: fuck Cleveland State. But it's all love.
• 2:20
  Speaker 4: Listen, this wasn't even playing. You know what I'm saying.
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: You got the Columbia's on. My boy got the what's
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: having his own already be at the Gamazon. It's love, bro,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Black against white, it's all of.
• 2:39
  Speaker 4: Sixty.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: That's perfect.
• 2:44
  Speaker 4: When we played them, remember us say the day that
• 2:46
  Speaker 4: the rank so we was both ranked and whoever win
• 2:49
  Speaker 4: that game was going to be number one, and obviously
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: they won. But like that was my first introduction to
• 2:54
  Speaker 4: Greg on the court, Like you obviously saw him play
• 2:57
  Speaker 4: on like film, but like he was like a mountain.
• 3:00
  Speaker 4: Now of course it was no layup ruling effect like
• 3:03
  Speaker 4: shoot your floaters. I even show the floater he blocked one,
• 3:06
  Speaker 4: so it was like shoot three, shoot three. Then you know,
• 3:09
  Speaker 4: Mike gonna control the whole game.
• 3:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, was that your first time I'm seeing somebody like that?
• 3:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my first time seeing Yeah. I mean
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  Speaker 4: we played against talented dudes, but like Greg was d dude,
• 3:18
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like we played against division
• 3:20
  Speaker 4: one h Greg was a pro th and then Mike.
• 3:24
  Speaker 4: We played against scoring point guards and fast point guard.
• 3:27
  Speaker 4: But Mike had the ultimate balance. He was super quick,
• 3:30
  Speaker 4: but he was poised. He knew when the score and
• 3:32
  Speaker 4: went not to score. Like that was the first time
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  Speaker 4: I seen like a floor general in high school because
• 3:36
  Speaker 4: most dudes just score. He was a true floor general.
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  Speaker 1: Like Mike would He could not score the game and
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: still dictate the game.
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  Speaker 5: He averaged eleven in high school.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough, but eleven assists two.
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  Speaker 5: Though he was but I'm saying, though, niggas really like
• 3:51
  Speaker 5: sleep like and he was, yes, foot.
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  Speaker 4: Dunk right foot dunk let right two.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: And it's funny hearing that both of y'all because of
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: how y'all play y'all fast.
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  Speaker 4: But Mike was different.
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: He probably ran out four to two, but.
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: Like you said, from the free throw line with two
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  Speaker 4: hands like.
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  Speaker 1: Vertical. He's actually watching dunk off vertical. Dangn Hey, why
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: Yon'll never dunk?
• 4:19
  Speaker 5: He's like for what I heard? You play football too, though, Bro,
• 4:23
  Speaker 5: what po was this? Did you play QB okay? Is
• 4:26
  Speaker 5: that your first love?
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  Speaker 4: Or I was naturally better at football? But all my
• 4:30
  Speaker 4: uncles went to college for football like Division. One had
• 4:32
  Speaker 4: then uncle that went to Nebraska, played in the Big Eight. Yeah,
• 4:35
  Speaker 4: time playing in the Orange Bowl. I had another uncle
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  Speaker 4: that played in Eastern Washington. Another one played at Texas
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  Speaker 4: Southern Football Central State. So football was like in my family.
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  Speaker 4: Like my first cousin, Trent Cole, played for the Philadelphia
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  Speaker 4: Eagles for years, so football was like that was in
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  Speaker 4: the family. We all played basketball too, but like football
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  Speaker 4: was like my first love because it was I was
• 4:57
  Speaker 4: the most skill that it. I played all the sports,
• 4:59
  Speaker 4: but that one came natural, like I didn't have to
• 5:01
  Speaker 4: do too much to know how to play.
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  Speaker 5: That's who started recruiting you heavy, that's where you did
• 5:05
  Speaker 5: your first skully come from football or both, but.
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  Speaker 4: It was low level. For basketball, I never got only
• 5:10
  Speaker 4: had one Division offer for basketball that was Cleveland State.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: For football, I would get like max schools Toledo. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but I never really entertained it because I wanted to
• 5:22
  Speaker 4: play basketball. I wanted to play basketball.
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  Speaker 2: To ask how you got but you said that was
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  Speaker 2: your offering, the only one.
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  Speaker 4: I was committed to go to n I A washn
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  Speaker 4: A Division two and then my my high school coach
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  Speaker 4: couldn't accept it. He didn't. He was like, no, it's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, she at least got to give a division
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  Speaker 4: on to try. I said, well, you know division was
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  Speaker 4: coming and I'm not paying for school, Like I didn't
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  Speaker 4: have an ego. I was like, I'm going to school somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: Then Cleveland State. You know, they came and watched me
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  Speaker 4: playing the state championship. We want to stay my senior
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  Speaker 4: year and then they offered me a scholarship and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, that's where I'm going.
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  Speaker 1: That was all she wrote after that, that's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of motivations for something. These guys who on got office
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: right now, like.
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  Speaker 4: Don't have no go where they want you. I was
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  Speaker 4: that's the thing with me. I wasn't going gonna go
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  Speaker 4: look for some D one and didn't want me. I
• 6:09
  Speaker 4: was gonna ask me to like pay half because I
• 6:12
  Speaker 4: was gonna get academic schlarship because my grades was nice.
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  Speaker 4: It was like having me pay half to get on
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  Speaker 4: the team. I was like, no, like wash wanted me
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  Speaker 4: any i A. They was laying the red carpet out.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the guy. So I'm like cool. And
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  Speaker 4: then Cleveland State came. They came to my house, sat
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  Speaker 4: in my you know, talk to my dad, my mom,
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  Speaker 4: my uncle, looked them in the face, and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: they want me, So that's where I'm gonna go.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's up, man, Cleveland State.
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  Speaker 6: To say that ship about twenty years we're here, now, let's.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about it. Sixty nine, we had a lot of
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: ship going up.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, first year at Cleveland State. Did you you didn't
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  Speaker 5: get the keys right away?
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: Did you have to the keys?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 4: Listen, we gonna get to that average like five points
• 6:57
  Speaker 4: a game was on the line and I was back.
• 7:01
  Speaker 4: I was the backup. And so the condition I had
• 7:05
  Speaker 4: never did conditioning because that no brow. We were so talented,
• 7:08
  Speaker 4: like we did conditioning, but like we was gonna win
• 7:10
  Speaker 4: because we had the most talent. I got to Cleveland
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  Speaker 4: State individuals and stuff. You know, you got to hold
• 7:15
  Speaker 4: your own in college. Individual So that's the first time
• 7:16
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I'm not good enough right now. So
• 7:20
  Speaker 4: my freshman year was all about getting acclimated. I started
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: lifting weights heavy, started running, taking wind sprints, serious, getting
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  Speaker 4: my skills. I never practiced dribbling, bro. That was the
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  Speaker 4: first time I started practicing dribbling and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: And it was like I went from averaging five points
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  Speaker 4: as a freshman to thirteen as a sophomore, which is
• 7:36
  Speaker 4: when they got.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's because y'all bet shit.
• 7:40
  Speaker 4: I remember that y'all played against Syracuse Florida State. Yeah,
• 7:45
  Speaker 4: y'all won't the only ones, bro.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: Now we watched y'all beat Syracuse because y'all, I think
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: your other guard came from Syracuse.
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  Speaker 4: He came from U St. John's somewhere. John.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember watching he caught a live or something.
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  Speaker 1: But we ain't take y'all serious. I know, we was.
• 8:01
  Speaker 4: We had I was getting ready for the draft almost No.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: We had Arizona. So we had Arizona. Did you play Arizona?
• 8:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: So we was like, are we gonna play Arizona? That's
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be the Scouts. Jordan Hill I was like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go top ten.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go top ten and damn like after that,
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Indianapolis where I'm gonna be at
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  Speaker 1: the crib. I'm gonna really put on the show against Louisville.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: So we we watched film on y'all, but not really
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: like we watched like thirty minutes and we was like,
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: he's too small, and then I'll never forget Our coach
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: was like, because.
• 8:30
  Speaker 6: We went to the club the night before, we knew that,
• 8:33
  Speaker 6: so we went. We was living, Bro, he's getting paid.
• 8:36
  Speaker 6: We was living like we was rock star time baby.
• 8:39
  Speaker 6: So he ended up they ended up showing us him.
• 8:42
  Speaker 6: But they was like they point guard the Cedric kid.
• 8:44
  Speaker 6: He was like, bro, he can play.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: We like, yeah, who's that nigga? He transferred? I know
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: he can't, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, man,
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: I ain't worried about him. They was like, they got
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: a football player whoever, y'all, big man.
• 8:59
  Speaker 4: He was our best he was our real best player.
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Bullock. Yeah, but he played football. Yeah, he got
• 9:04
  Speaker 4: a he after he finished he went to the Jets
• 9:07
  Speaker 4: and got on their practice squad right away and never
• 9:09
  Speaker 4: played since high school.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, They was just like he a football player.
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: He ain't even a basketball I never forget that. And
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: I know the game start. He had a bank three
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: and our coach called the time out. He said, We're
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: gonna fucking lose. Guys are playing around. I'm like, man,
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: we ain't about to lose to these sadass nigga. That
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: shiit just started getting spooky. I'm looking what the fuck?
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: Bro bro We wasn't even allowed to y'all went to
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: South Beach. Bro We stayed by the airport and they
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: let us ride down South Beach on the bus, then
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: let us get off. That was our tournament experience. Coach
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: was like, nah, we ain't here just to be here,
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: He said, y'all want to go to South Beach. Bus
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: driver driving the South Beach, don't nobody get off. So
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: we just rolled down, got to look at it, and
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: went right back to our hotel. That was all our tournaments.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: Ship nigga.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: I was walking on the beach, went to a club.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: First time I ever seen a club like a club
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: like that. Niggas buying shots. I don't even drink at
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: that time, but we just vibing. We knew we was good,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: so I said part nigga. We got that game, we
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: started arguing. I'm like, we just started arguing.
• 10:09
  Speaker 4: Super athletic though, Yeah, we.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: Just started arguing. Our whole team was then I just
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: started running to the corner line. I'm done.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: They was trapping every time I came off bos screen.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: Two people here. I'm like, y'all, niggas gotta make a shot.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: Niggas was breaking them. Niggas was celebrating my bracket.
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: I'm going to the bragget.
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: But the thing is the way we play against y'all.
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: That's how we played against everybody. Like we trapped ball screens,
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: like really aggressive. Like we didn't play super fast, but
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: like if it was a miss, you know, we pushed
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: the pace like coach was a defensive coach.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Now, y'all, defense was a one I wouldn't I was.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: I had an attitude that game though, So I didn't
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: even play. My dad was calling me so many times
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: after they was like stopped calling me, Doug.
• 10:48
  Speaker 5: He's like, you played like a whole.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: At eight point.
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what I had. I'm like eight
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: noine point. It was ironic. Pat Rdy was at that game.
• 10:57
  Speaker 5: Damn.
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: He ended up drafting me like he was at the game,
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: sitting a few rolls away from my parents, and my
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: uncle was like, you know Pat Rise at the game.
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: I was like, nah, I didn't know that, but like, okay,
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: cool two years later and he talked about it when
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: I got judged, like, man, I saw you play as
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: a sophomore. You ain't even know, like we was looking
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: at other people obviously at the time, but like that
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: was the first time, like getting introduced to me.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, look at it. You have to get drafted,
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: all work out, always gonna give him.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: Mother fuck, it's crazy.
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: That's a hell of a story though. It's really crazy, though,
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: you know, So what's uh, James, So you know how
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: y'all was walking in the back, how he was warming up,
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: y'all was kind of walking through our line, and Big
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: j Nathan was like, if these cats walked through our
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: line one more time, bro, I'm gonna get active. And
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: I'm like, now looking back, I said, I'm glad.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: Like I was like, because at the time, you know,
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: we win it.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: Big Dog don't get Big Dog like, can't nobody whip him.
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: So he's like, bro, they walked through the line one
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: more time, but I don't care which one of them is,
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: I'm about to get active and we're like whatever, and
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: then like now, I'm like, I'm so glad that.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: In a bowling box one place after one puce after
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: live that.
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: I just got. You know, you're a homie now, so
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: he's so cool. He talked about that, and I'm like,
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: I never told him. Now, I was like, bro, when
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: I was walking through our line, it was really about
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: to be something I'm like and it would have got
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: so ugly so fast, man, because he know he's the
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: truth with it though, you know, because you were.
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: But he don't.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: That was.
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: They shout out to jaj Bro.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: I see him do out here.
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: Yep, he did come for the ain't gonna be no
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: more running into the locker room. They signed him right
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: after that.
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: That game.
• 12:58
  Speaker 6: Again, Go get that game, man, leave him alone, keep it.
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: What was your most memorable tournament game?
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: That one?
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: That one you got off the most on that one?
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: I mean I had seventeen against Arizonable, we lost. I
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: only count win, so.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but what's fucked up is though about that
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: y'all beating us. I never forget so Rick Patino, I
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: had beef for him because he didn't recruit me, but
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: he you know, he wanted to recruit my little brother
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: in mine. He want dad played for him, so I
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: had beef for him. So I wanted to play Louisville
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: so bad. And that day of the game, he said,
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: I got to watch that twelve five matchup Cleveland State
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: and Wake for est. I got Cleveland State beating him.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, bitch, we're gonna beat you out. What
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: this nigga talking about? Like he about to nigga, you're
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: a coach for a team that's in a tournament. You're
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: telling niggas who's gonna win and ship talk to him.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's why I'd be so hyped
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: when they lose every time.
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: The Big East, though, he watched us play against South
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: Florida's in the Biggest when we be serious, was they
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: was in the East, so like he had like been
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: watching all year.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt the way though the.
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: Waters we used to coach workers. My coach can't Cleveland State.
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: He was a ruggers, so he came from the Big EI,
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: so he had that relationship.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he said that ship and that ship happened.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna I wasn't mad because I know I
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: was about to go to the NBA, but I was
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: sick that, like, I didn't get to play Louisville.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: That's my biggest thing, I.
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: Know, because they smasters on it like they did them.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: He would have tried to get fifth.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: I would have tried to.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: We hired out our beef iver, but I was gonna
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: get fifty on them.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I did.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: I would have went to Louisville. I wish I could
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: hell and I wouldn't know. I wasn't about to be
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: pressing like that. I'm glad I went where I went
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: because the defense was not a priority. So I gotta
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: ask you this first, the who the ones you gotta
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: play first? Edgar or the Sean Jackson? The Sean Jackson.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: That's joke jokes.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: That's for the internet, jokes, bro.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: What he says for content that jokes. Worry about jokes.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: Guard play was tough back then. Least you had to
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: really strap.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Up, Like who was Arizona guard?
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: They had Nick Wise get busy.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his number circle too. I should have circled just ship.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: That was.
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: Can't be in front of They be shelling them too.
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: They be shelling them to Wash.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: I was they had a good team that the Horizon
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: League so killed at that time. Obvious.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you hold it down. He
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: talked about the hold on.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: Did you play against Justine Sir? Show you didn't? Okay,
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: he was too young. I thought you played for uh,
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: damn some school in Chicago or the lawyer Loyola. He
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: played for Loyal I know.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I'm being honest. I didn't know. None of the player's
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: name is in our conference. So we played them.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, we can move on. But he was one
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: of just Sir was one of them.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: I remember his same year.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I remember because they beat us, so obviously I just
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: kind of kept up with Ship and I remember his
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: senior year. Nigga, he was getting forty and Ship. I'm like,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: then got a box. Oh this nigga that turned out that's.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Forty. I'm like, yeah, he's wow.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: Did you average one twenty two or some shit like that?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: How was that six and six?
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: Bro?
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: My senior year like magic, I'm gonna be honest, because
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I was having an out of body experience, like I
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: couldn't even explain what was going Damn. You know how
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: coaches say work hard, work hard, and eventually to payoff.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Casts be like when it is gonna pay off, Like
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: my senior year was just my three years before that
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: paying off. Damn all the working out three times a day.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: You know. I used to kill myself in the workout.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: But my teammates thought I was like weird, like right way,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: because I would work out before practice, after practice, then
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: come back midnight. Like I don't even know how I
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: did homework to stay eligible, bro, because I was working
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: at all day long. Because I went to the Darren
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Williams camp after my junior year and they say ninety
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: percent of people that go to that camp go NBA.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: So I said, oh, I got it. They think I'm
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: an NBA dude. I locked in every since then, like,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: oh that's her, that's fine. That's what my senior year was.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Just like he was going crazy, bro.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: And I saw blood like I saw he was going crazy.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's crazy that Nigga put on that year.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I was watching because we thought about in Atlanta, they
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: had you going to I to just go in the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: draft room and ship look like see if they were
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: trying to replace me, I really yours.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I worked out in Atlanta though, like for the draft,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: that's where I was like my boot camp bat down there.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I was down here. I was working out with Tony
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: and I heard of it. It was in. It was
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: in like a little if I do it right here.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: He had a house that's where I worked out at. Okay,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: every day, twice a day. I was in there and
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: it was like hot in there too. Bro.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: They signed Brian Bro.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: The signed they How was your drying process, though, Bro? Like,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: how many teams did you work out for?
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: I did eleven workouts, so I knew my range was
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: like after lottery like fourteen to like early second round.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: I knew like I was gonna go like I knew
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna go below Miami. Okay, So I worked
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: out for eleven teams. My agent wanted me to do
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: like two more, and I was like, nah, I'm not
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: doing too more. When I was tired, I was like
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: after my eleventh one, I was like, I said, if
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: they don't think I'm good enough by now, I'm just
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: because I was exhausted because my senior year, I was
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: exhausted because coach wore me. I played every minute of
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: every practice, every minute of every game. So I was
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: like wore out and I didn't get a chance to rest.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Like after the season was over. I went to school
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: for like maybe one more month, and I left school early,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: like I talked to the professors. I was able to
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: take some of my finals early, and then I started
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: getting ready.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Damn.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: So I did eleven workouts and I was done.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Any of them. Teams ever be like we're taking you noors.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: No, because I know what. I wasn't hands on like
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: that because I ain't care. I'm coming from Cleveland State,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: so I ain't had no ego. I was just like this,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: whoever you put in front of me in these workouts,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: I'm dog walking on. That was wod you killed?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: That's kind of guy?
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Who you killed? I asked some who I have just.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Talking about your competitive workout?
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't know everybody's name because I'm at
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Cleveland State. I an't play, so I ain't really know.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: You know, now you know, Remember it was a basic.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I worked out against the guard from u C.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: L A.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I think his name Malcolm Lee or something cool in
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: the league. For I know, I worked out what's the
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: guy from Kansas shell Uh, Josh Shelby.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I worked.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: There mcamee from that was my guy What's the Good
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: from Michigan State?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: That was all American Michigan State Lucasas. Yeah, you cook them.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: You have some as workouts.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I worked out with a lot of people, Yeah, some hoopers.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: A couple of my workouts I was with guys that
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: was like that. Like I worked out with what's uh
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Changler Parsons.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: I worked out at Miami with him.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: We was on the same team. And be honest, we
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: played that day. We didn't do one on ones. We
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: did like three on threes and four and four.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Who was I think the Klay Thompson workout Charlotte.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't gonna say you cooked him. I'm just
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: gonna keep it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say like that. It was one other cat.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I can't remember. Uh it was in Okay. See, I
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: can't remember who it was. But I cooked that whole workout.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Uh he went to Villanova. What's the dude him?
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Ye he cooked ye.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna be honest though, all my.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Workouts I cooked. Just about I killed my workouts. I
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: believe it because I didn't. I didn't play like in
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: the A C.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: C term the Big East turn a surprise.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: That's how I know you cooked because it get picked
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: first round, Like, yeah, you gotta go on the workout
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and improved someone like thin.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: It went crazy, especially from Cleveland State for.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Sure, and obviously know where you go end up in Miami.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be apart. You know what I'm sing,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. You know what I'm saying. You talk about
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: every point of your life. Senior year to get to college.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. D one, you went crazy,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: win the chip, then you went courage and the tournament
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: went crazy last year. Now you get your league and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: then you walk into one of the craziest situations in basketball.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: That was I ain't gonna lie. I was excited because
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I always won, Like my high school we won, we
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: won in college in the Horizon League. So I wanted
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: to go somewhere where we can win. But I also
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: wanted to be a part of the winning. So when
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: I got drafted there, I'm like, I was happy, And
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: then like after the first day, I was like, all right,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I gotta get ready because they don't necessarily need me.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: They went to the finals last year. Whatever me Like,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I gotta make my imprints so I can get on
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: the court. That's the first thing I started thinking about, Like, Okay,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I gotta get ready because if I don't do right,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I sent the bench the whole year. I didn't want
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: to go to the G League. You know, I want
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: to do what's called the the d lea. Back then,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I was like, I ain't never want to get regulated,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: no offense to catch the dude. But like, I ain't
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: want to do that. Already did my four years of school.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to do no more developing. I wanted
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: to develop on the big team. So first day I
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: was excited. Next day I was like, all right, it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: time to get to work so I can earn their respect.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: How was that first practice?
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: You know, we had to lockout, oh ship, right, bro.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I worked out with Brin a couple of times because
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: he's from Ohio crib And it's funny. I worked out
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: in some Adidas. Bro. I walked in that man's house
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: in some some d Ros Adidas, and hey looked at
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: me crazy. That's how I got my Nike deal.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's all.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: It was like one of his home. It was like,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: why you wearing Adidas? I said, because they gonna pay me.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: They giving me the contract. He said, Bro, what they
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: paying you? And I looked at him. He said, no, seriously,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: what they paying you? Whatever? They paying you, the guy's
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: gonna call you tomorrow, and I'm like whatever. We finished
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: the workout and a guy from Nike called me the
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: next day and said, he, uh, what do you want
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: for us to switch you over to? And I told
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: him I should have uped it up. So I just
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: sent them the straight contract that gave me and I
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: switched to Nike that the next day.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: So I said.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: That story, that's a fire story.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: That's that's when I realized casts got real influence out here.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Like the next day, Cat from Nike said, hey, Norris, Yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: so what's your He didn't even say how you doing nothing?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Nor yeah, So what's the what's your contract with the
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: What do we need to do to sign you over?
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Like send us your numbers so we can get that
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: team care of. I was like, cool, check your phone,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna text you my contract. Just just give me this,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: and that's what they did. But we ain't have practice
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: until December because our first game was Christmas. So we
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: had training camp two weeks in December and then we like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: so I didn't get to play summer League. I didn't
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: get to like have those pre workouts before, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: how you work out, come in before practice the young
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: dudes do before the first I didn't get to do
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: none of that. So it's like my first day of
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: practice was my first day of practice.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, when you cracked the like lineup, like you get
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: a chance to get in the games.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I knew I was gonna get in, like I knew
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I was gonna get in, just because how I was
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: doing in practice in preseason. And they don't lie to
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: you in Miami like they they don't. They don't like
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: feed you like fools, go you know how something, Oh,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: good job, fel you're gonna do that, and then you'd
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: be like, dang, I ain't play a minute. I knew
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I was like preseason games, I was like playing and
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: coaching let me make some mistakes. And then in practice
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I was holding my own in practice, so I was like, Okay,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: he gonna play me. And then he told me, like,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: you know, be ready, So that's all I need to hear.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: He don't gotta tell me you're gonna play this mean
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: minutes because they say, I'm just happy to be there.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: He just like, stay ready on a fella. And as
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: soon it was time that first substitution, I'm like, oh,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: he's serious. Code going against Dallas on TNT because they
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: want a championship. They beat us and get me a game.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I was like, all right, let's do it.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: That Who is that matchup? When you first got in.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: That's why they drafted me though the small garden, So
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: it was JJ Breal Jet had went to the Celtics,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: real Jet.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I'm the real Jet Jason, since we're talking about the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: real jat he we ain't talking about either, no kidding.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Terry were setting up that lobe the craziest Lebron.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: We didn't think it was going to be that crazy
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: like because we had many like libs. But somehow it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: like that lived forever.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: What bro that play is crazy part of history.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: But at the time it happened, we didn't think that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: That nigga got killed a lot because of you.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: You didn't see who, you didn't see Jet.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: It didn't matter. I knew who was trailing. I was like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: can I can take the lay up or I can automatic?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: That's why you was perfect from Miami because I would
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: have shot the lay up, they would have been hit.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: Was the ultimate teammate facts.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I can't say bro I didn't fight the system at
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: all at first. When I first got there, I was
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: shooting a lot. I was playing like hot Tod that
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Cleveland State, and they didn't. They didn't reel me in
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: real quick. They let me do it. Cause my first
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: home game I had like twenty fourteen or fourth, I'm
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: realing it. So they waited till I had an off game.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: As soon as I had an off game, they rilled
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: it in real quickpo was like, hey man, that wonder
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: will pull up with thirteen on the clock, fourteen on
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: the shot clock. That ain't what we want. That's Chris
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Boss sitting that screen picking up Poppet. That's Ray Allen
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: standing over there. You know who Reyaliten is. I'm like, yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: that's the all time three point yeah. And that's that's
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: the way or the way Lebron one one was in.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: It's like that's a that's Dwayne Wade, that's the franchise
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: leader in points over there. You came off and shut
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: to pull up three while they're watching you play that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: That ain't how we want to play, and I was
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: just like, but Coach, I can make it. He was like,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: and he looked at me, and I said, never mind.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I said you right, So I said you're right. So
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: early in the o'clock, I'm coming off. Run into the
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: throw it, run into the corner because I want to play,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: because they'll put you on that bench and bear you,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: because it ain't nothing for them to be like, all right,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: we're going with the big line up. Bron at the one,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: d at the three, shame Ba at the four, Chris.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: So if I didn't do right, that's what would have happened.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I didn't want that to happen. So I'm like, you
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: know what, cool, You ain't gonta say nothing else. I'm
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: gonna come off. That's why y'all used to know that.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Guards used to know.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I couldn't go back at him.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: That's why I wanted Remember when I said that about Mario,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: it wasn't no disrespect.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: It wasn't we're gonna get to that too.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: But I was a little different than him though, because
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I was more aggressive than him, Like I was feistier
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: he was. Yeah, I used to really like this. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: wouldn't guarden.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: That was gonna guard him because I mean he could shoot.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I know Mario.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I know because before like Bron got there, nigga, Mario
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: used to get to it. Yeah you know, but when
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Bron got there, it was like different, and this is.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: How you have to run to the corner. Bro. It
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: ain't no I'm gonna try my getting Bro. He would
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: make he started doing stuff like this by the nails.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, go sit down, sit down.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I knew that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: See this is why I'll be saying like, I feel
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: like y'all just catch and I don't know if you
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: watch short, I feel like y'all just catch clips because Bro,
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: don't meet no malice behind the ship. It's just how
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: it should be clipped up. Because he was just saying,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: ship if we in mother fucking Miami, I'm straight I
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: can go out because I know what Mario Finn do
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: the whole game, So I can go out to.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: The by the set of screen or he going to
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the court. Yeah, it wasn't never like it was sad.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: He never said anything like I know, y'all not sad.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I know because I know when people sit out, when
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Brian d wait it out, they go for thirty for.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Sure, second that was different than our starter unit. So
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: that start unit, like you said, it was real, like, yeah,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: let Brian and d Wade do a lot of that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: In the second unit. I can handle the ball sometimes
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: at least to initiate it. Eventually, I was gonna have
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: to get off of at least I can initiate and
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: we play a little faster.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And y'all, y'all, y'all move it, especially when you had
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: d Wade. Y'all really moved it. Brian bron moved it,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: but he did more like yeah, come here, Yeah, the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: little guy comes up the screen, get the switch or whatever.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: But I used to feel bad though sometimes for me,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: because I knew he could, you know, he could score
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: a little bit. But like like you said, like you're
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: talking about two of the best perimeter players and the
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: n CB was one of the top scores. You gotta
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: get on the rock.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: It was just a man out.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I just pecking order, bro, and it's legit.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, none of the.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Bigg It was all three first about.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, off the best because.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Right off the minch and actually he was nice, bro.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: It was just like, I know, you can't shoot that shot,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like you about to go off this picking roll. I'm
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: going under because you wont to shoot it, but I
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: know you can't.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know you can make it, but you
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: can't shoot.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It because if you make her miss hitting, you canna
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: come out. You have you better make it. You make
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: it even if you make you somebody come out.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: No past with fifteen on the shot clock, pick and
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: roll three, you shoul don't make it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Spoke and I spoke.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Starting line up is bron and D and c By
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: think they have to run back on.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I knew that because I used to do that with
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Jamal. If I shoot the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: ball and I don't make it, you're coming out.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: That's why I we wanting him to speak more because
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: niggas don't even understand the life. He really had to
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: leave out before. Chalmers like had to live that life already.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: He walked into the league in that I been watching.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Tough but that's when I started playing. But before I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: got there, we had Woodson. It was Io so like
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I so old Joe. We had Jamal, who that's.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: God, Josh need that motherfucker.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Josh needed, Horford wanted, Marvin wanted.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Then we had other veterans I was just man, I
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: was just happy, Well we're going out tonight, And what's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: so crazy both of your background because they were yeah
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: near my respect.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Though, like can open runs and in the summertime like
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: like in the pro whims and stuff. So like when
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: people come to Miami. That's how like everybody knew, like, nah,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: he can hoop. He just playing his role. I never
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: wanted to be known as like, ain't nobody in the
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: league watched, But you don't never want to be known
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: as one of them dudes. It's like self check, ain't
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: no self check. I'm playing my role.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: But that's and see this goes to my but he
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: used to kill though, but norriskho That's why I think people,
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: like I said, when people watch our ship, they think
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: we di and know we understand it because this is
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: my nigga. I know where he had in. We used
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: to be mad at him for not going to get
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: thirty as your man's probably said, don't kill for sure,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because we're not realizing the game.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: But that's why I was like, ship, maybe a nigga
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: probably would take a hundred million over.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Over the rings.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Easy for me.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Hundred elms.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Niggas mad because it wasn't no slight to norse that' said.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: But niggas don't talk about enough.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: That extreme is extreme. But I take, like, you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: forty or fifty with my rings and not one hundred
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: with the rings. Didn't take a hundred with no rings though,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: that's a tough extreme, though, one hundred or no, because
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: a hundred is crazy, you know what I mean?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: It is unred is different.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: But I take the middle of the pack with the rings.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that. I mean, you can still have
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: the same life.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: It's a lot like well we in the Midwest. That's
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: why we back here in the middleway, our bucks stretch
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: farther up.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the same life.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: But to be known as a champion, bro, it's like
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: even if you win the best player, Like I was
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: a role player, but I played though, so anywhere that
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: time I go somewhere, it's like I get in rooms
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: that normally I wouldn't like other NBA players wouldn't be
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: able to get into just off a GP, like no,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: that's cold. He played for the championship team that he
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: he good in here like yes, and I've seen that
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: happen in real life. I was going to a real
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: like VIP spot where it was like only fifty people
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: in there and I ain't had no invite. I just
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: happened to know it be dripping seeing it and I
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: was like, oh let me. It was like, oh, co
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: come on. And then the boss men, I was like,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, no, Champion, he good and I'm like, Dan,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: that's what it is. That's all it was.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: And we always talking about relationships being worth more than money,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: so we funk with that for sure. We was just
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: that was the nature of the topic. My nigga one
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: hundred ms yeah, or do you want this more fucking ring?
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: And we found out that niggas was selling them more
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: fucking rings. The chick on tim streets selling that mother
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: fucking thing.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: You heard me something not because we ultimately played to
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: take care of your family, yes.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Bro, and that's all we say. It wasn't no hate,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Because I said Mario give up his ring for a
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: hunter Man for a Max deal. That's what I said.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I said, you give I was back then, it was
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: not like the are now.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: Even back then talking about right now with the players
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: was getting We never niggas saying.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: I got this nigga up in this chair. Nigga, that's
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: all I even I get my ring up for a million?
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah right now, because you still know as a champion.
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: That's all I would say exactly, like I don't need
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: the actual ring. But if they said you can't.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Win around, are you talking about the actual ring ring?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Not that?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying the champion I want.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: It's not being a champion, like would you be a
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: champion for less money or would you like not want
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: to be a champion.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I don't want you.
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: I don't want to give a champion a champion. I
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: don't give you want to respect because you're still getting
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: to it. Yeah, I'm still respect, bro, and you a killer,
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: but I'm saying you knocked it down fifty percent. Niggas
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: talk about the Hunter. What you're doing for that Hunter?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: As I said, yeah we did.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: That was so appropriate that say, would you take fifty
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: million your rings or James Harden, I'm taking fifty in
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: my rings ship James two rings and fifty what James
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: hard touch power hundred?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah I got you.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: I remember though, for me and my what I value, Yeah,
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: fifty minute, I can get anything I want. I mean,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: how many mentions can you get.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: And you come from humble beginners like us, and.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: You know, a million West. You know in the mid West,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: a million dollar crib up here, in a million dollar
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: crib in Miami or l A is two different lifestyles.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: No, for sure, I'm saying your life is gonna be normal.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: But for me, three hundred million, what you want to do?
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Like you can't spend it all?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Ship You're just saying my kids, kids, my mama, other kids.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: You get that you want Nigga was careful.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: It's not that, but careful Now that's I mean, I
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: am shout out to that. But I'm taking the fifty.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: I know what fifty can do because I'm still gonna
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: live where we outlive at. You're gonna be You're gonna
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: live good.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: But four hundred dogs you can figure something different. One hundred.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Live where I live somewhere worst Still, that's crazy. Like
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you your first year in the league, got a ring?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: How was that feeling? Rookie ye out the NBA lockout year?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Crazy shit?
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: And you get a championship.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: It's gonna sound bad, I mean as humbly as possible,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: but I thought that's how it's supposed to be. That's
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: what I thought how it was supposed to be. In
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: high school, That's how it was. We won the state
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I went to Cleveland State. We won two conference championships.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, this is what you're supposed to do,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: you win chips. I ain't realize until the first year
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: we didn't win it. I was like, oh. And then
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: the next year when I got traded, like my fourth
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: year whatever, I got traded and played in New Orleans.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: We lost the first round. I was like, oh, this
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: NBA life is different. Then when I didn't make the playoffs,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: suicide watch like, like, what is going on?
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: So I thought it was normal, honestly, bro, I was like,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: this is what it's supposed to be.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: What was it like when you finally like when you
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: got traded.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Was a little I didn't know how to feel. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: was like a fish out of water because the team
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: didn't call me and tell me. I found out on
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: the ticker. D then found out on the ticker, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: then my agent. My agent didn't call intil it was official,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: because when on the ticker, it don't be official. It
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: just be the paperwork winning, but you know behind the scenes.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: So but once it became final. My agent called me
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: and I was like, I'm going to New Orleans. I'm like,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: I'm going to Miami. To New Orleans, that's a whole different.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, and guess who. The first game was against Miami.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't even move out of my apartment. I stayed
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: in my apartment. New Orleans flew in, I met the
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: team at the hotel, went back to my apartment, and
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: didn't played Miami the next day, damn. And we won too.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: But I was salty a little bit though, because I
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: thought I was gonna play my whole career. That's when
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I learned the business of the NBA, because I thought
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I was gonna play my whole career in Miami.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: You got busy though.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Let me.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I like going there because I was able to show
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: what I could do.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they let you rock.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: It was a cool city though.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I like coming from Miami, though, I mean, nothing cool
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: come from you go to Miami. You had a decent team, though.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I'm saying it was nicey Miami. You gotta damn there,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: go to New York to even like experience.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, you can go to like Houston or Atlanta.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Houston, Atlanta, but like Miami is just like when you
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: touch down, I ain't gonna lie every time we touch
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: down Miami, like.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I got happy ship, Like I'm about to go Prome
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: on twelve.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: We about to play the heat Tom all the gym
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be hot, like it ain't gonna be You know,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: you no offense to Philly fans, but when you go
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to Philly in it during the season, it'd be freezing
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: when you go to shoot around. You got the world
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: hoodies and all this ship. I used to hate playing
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: there New York. You go, if y'all go practice at
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the garden, it's gonna be freezing.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: W just be wow, be honest. You know how people
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: be excited about to play in the garden.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I ain't get that adreoling So I don't think you.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Was it remodeled when you first got in the league.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: When I first got it wouldn't remin bottle yet. So
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: we had the old dressing rooms.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Then you have to put all your clothes up because
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: they like the roaches and rats getting your ship.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: You gotta keep them up high. I was like, yeah, lying.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Seen the rats though underneath when we walked to them.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: They like, bro, keep your clothes up there. You can't
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: even like lamb. I'm like, damn, we went.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: To a this is crazy and don't put no smoot
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: on my name, but went to the Bad Boys Reunion tour.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: The Guard.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: You tell me that weekend it's Philip Collins fault because
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: with for his birthday and he loved He not like that.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: But I did wait for my niggid birthday party the time.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: That's my best friend, and I ain't because I knew
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: so them rats in that guarden is it's real, bro, I.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Felt you know how people feel about the Guards. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: felt like playing like that in Chicago play there. Anytime
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: I played Chicago ball like that was like my are
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: playing there looking up there seeing two three. They had
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: to hollow the light. How the light used to hit it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I used to be like the goat up there, like
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: let's get to it. That's how I felt every time
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: that studio goat.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Damn, I ain't like playing in Chicago. What's your favorite
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: place by Utah?
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even being funny. I had I
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: had great. I've never not played good in Utah. The court,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you know how the backdrop is so close. The fans
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: is right there. It's like shooting in the high school
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: gym here, Indiana. Like when you shoot Indiana, know that
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the fans right behind the go.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I used to like here because like I knew the
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: whole I used to be deep. Yea, I need fifty
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: tickets this game because Dayton is like ninety minutes away.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just talking about the backdrop. I know
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I was gonna have good games, like Philly. Hated playing Philly.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: The backdrop was so crazy. I'm like, I hate playing here.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Damn Boston. I had some good games and ball. I
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: like the crowd was great in Boston, So I like
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: playing in Boston.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: You remember your best moment in the NBA from straight
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: from a hooping's perspective, selfish, like where he was getting
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: tour in Cleveland.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Uh, the weekend I got my my jersey retired at
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Cleveland State. We played. I was in New Orleans. We
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: played at Cleveland. Okay, and like my parents and stuff,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Cleveland State, the whole school came to my game afternoon.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: They had raised my jersey and the raptors I had
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: like twenty six and eight on them.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's hard, bro, that's the hell of a moment, right,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: that's far that was.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: That was my favorite. That was probably like my favorite moment.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, getting your jersey retired in school, that's hard, like
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that was.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: That was the best. The only thing that was better
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: was going into a hall of fame at the school. Damn,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: because I didn't realize that's different. Hall of fame is
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: like different than like just getting your jersey retire.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't know. Don't with me.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: I think, wait for you gotta have degree. Yeah, I
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: think every school is like that. So I think Steph,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: they haven't retired put him in the Hall of Fame
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: at Davidson yet, and that's crazy to me.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, there should be exception ship should
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: be that should be excepted.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Come on, bro, game, I've seen people rocking zero way
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: for it so bad I just stopped looking. I'll never
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: forget they slewnging that jersey. I'll never forget the first
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I made. I was All American by sophomore year, so
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: they like, you all American? How you do is graduate,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: We're gonna retire your jersey. He's like, we don't have
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: many all Americans.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn for real.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: The next year that maybe two years dude named Cody
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: McIntyre rocking that mother Cody Visious was not hooping it
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: that bitch. I'm like real zero, at least get some buckets.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: He actually a good player now though I'll see I'm
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: watching games overseas. He actually be to see mac man.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: He could have went online had somebody. Don't you have
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: somebody you know I'm in a transfer port.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I'm in a transporport right now. I'm trying.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to somebody. You got money, I try to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: go to University of Phoenix. I'm going to transfer everything.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: I ain't going to I c d C.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You with the I c d C.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Give me my honorary to get to agreed quick.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm for the I P I what do yourself?
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you though, hold on before we
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: keep going though, when you want to come on, that's
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: your get back respect when in that first because he
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: had like we got a power with this nigga. He
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: has the worst championship experience ever. Okay, can you just
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: speak for what you can't speak on?
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: How was that? Like that?
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Like I heard so that's old? Ours was live. First
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: of all, we won on the first one on Sunday,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: we all know on Suturday, and then the next one
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: we went on a Thursday, which is story Thursdays. So
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: it was it was like didn't sleep until the sun
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: was coming up. I didn't get back home to like
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: seven am, like it was his experience. And we parted
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: for like after a week, you don't want to party
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: no more. We parted for like a week, and then
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: we had the parade, and then after that, nobody want
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: to party. We want to go on vacation.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: Wait a minute, you had a parade a week after
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: between the parade was the next day, wasn't.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: No, it was like three days.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, no offense. You know, Milwaukee is
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: different than Miami. Rally do things top not and you
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: know they call it heat Nation, which people don't know.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Heat Nation is built up of like little communities like
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Little Haiti, Little Havana, Miami Gardens, Liberty City. So we
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: drove around the whole wasty like, we went around the
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: whole grounds. So like we started at one place, we
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: went through every little high leada, we went through every
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: little hood and then it circled all the way back
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: to the steps.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough. That was tough.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I asked you this question. Obviously he was around you
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: saying everything for it. How was that feeling when you've
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: seen ray Allen? You know what I'm saying, step back
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and knocked that bitch down.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: You see how that nigga was about.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Play?
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: That was.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: If you ain't supporting me, like how I was more
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: than came. Oh god, bro, I said that nigga is
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: heard right, Ladies ain't supporting.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Listen, if y'all teammates, If y'all ain't supporting y'all teammates,
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: and y'all people like that, they're not real. I was
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: genuinely happy, like yo, because we know it looked like
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: we was gonna lose. We never said that. We never
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: said dangs.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: We was just like just taking one play at the time,
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: that's all we said. So when he hit that shot,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we're about to win. That's the
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: biggest shot in NBA history up until that point. I
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, and is he practiced that though? He
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: practiced backpell and shooting, and we used to be like, right,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: like he's just just for balance, that's all he would say, just,
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: you know, just just for balance. And he didn't take
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: a look if you watched the film, he didn't take
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: one look down at the ground. He back pedaled and
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: caught that mother feet down.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: And damn yo, that Lebron legacy would be damn different.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: It'd be different, different conversations. Hell, yes, Lebron's legacy. I mean,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: not how great he is, but into how people comparing him.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: It wouldn't even be none.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Like because if he lost to the Spurs, it would
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: have been been three times in a row. Would have
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: been crazy because that would have been the second time
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: he would have lost, because Rember lost.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: He lost in Cleveland. So if he would have got that, yeah,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: and that Wasallas.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: The Big three Dallas, then we won. Then would have
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: lost him ugly.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: It would have been like that.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: But people be saying that, but like, we would have
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: never even been in that point in the game if
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: it won for Bron, we was down and then he
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: took over like.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: That, and then we.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Know how.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Ruined a lot of my playoff experiences. But Bron is
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: he is. Really don't get no better than Bron. But
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know what I was saying. You
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: know how people look at it like Mike got six, Kobe.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Got fim able to start doing the reports like, oh
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: he lost when he had Dwyane Wade and Chris but
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: he lost twice, that.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Would have been a big hit. I don't. I don't
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: say Jordan's though, just because of it, just because of
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: the rings. It ain't just because of that. But you're thinking,
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I mean all I mean, just when I watch basketball,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: I never seen nobody better than Michael Jordan's from an
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: impact perspective, from a fundamental like Jordan was the most
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: fundamentally sound player and the most athletic, Like bron do
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: stuff that can't nobody practice. You can practice all day,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: you can never do what you do just because of
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: like his one leg shots and stuff like that. You
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: can't practice shooting like that. He's that's like the gift
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: that he got. Like so he he has stuff that
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: you can't even practice doing.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: That's why I think he's the greatest.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: But I mean, what's the craziest shit you ever You've
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: seen Brown do?
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Practice? Bro stuff, He's doing practices, stuff that never made
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: it to the court was open, like it was one
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: practice him in. D Wade got to going at it
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: and it was like we was like, oh, goodness. Here
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: there you go. It was just basically two basically like
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: playing one on one in practice, but it was just
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: four other cats out there. Yeah, but it was him
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: like proving a point that he was different, because d
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Wade is different too, like for y'all don't know he is,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: he's an alien too. But like Wade was like, you know,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: hit a couple and it was started to be like, oh,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: it's about to be one of them practices, so everybody
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: playing super hard. And then he started making shots that
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: nobody can make like he started Greg Olden was in
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: our practice, tell me no practice. He started like going
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: shooting shots like wrong wrong leg, left hand, hooked layups.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: He started like doing like almost like Michael Jordan Leb's
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: not looking and then he ad run down and look
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: at pat right like I know, I know it's different.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: I know d Waye, y'all boy, but I know different.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: He would be doing stuff like that, and I'm like.
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: I.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Like not because that would have said some ship like that.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: I was in there like he ran he was. He
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: was like, I know, he's like, I know, it's crazy.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: It's different. He come down shoot you know from wherever stuff.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: When he come down do stuff like that, and you
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: just be like, all right, bro, let's let's move on
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: to the practice the same the same proof, and now
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: we get it, like.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: He's got to You got to experience the pocket telling
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: that Nigga matching point for point.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: You way, people don't understand that he can really he's
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: really a score. He let the media take that past first. There.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: He lets you all run with.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: It, and he ran with it.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: But he's led to every.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Team he's ever played on inside attemps except one year,
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: and he's led the league in like top five. I
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: have been shot attempts every year of his career, like
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: he'd be tricking y'all thinking, but that's his name.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: That's how he played the game. Though, just because I
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: think because he's so versatile and how great of a
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: pastor he really is, it kind of overshadows like.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: He's an all time leading scorer.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you how crazy it is. You know,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: it's like he's the all time leading scorer, but he's
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: never led the league in assists, but people say he's
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: the best pastor in the game.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: You know how crazy that is because it's his vision,
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: I believe, though.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Not for sure, but saying it's dudes that actually average
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: tennis system, you know what I mean. Like, but Magic
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Johnson's Isaiah Thomas. Like when seasons where they average like
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: twelve assistance, they still and Ron and they still say
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: like he's the best passor they've ever seen. So I'm like, bro, he.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: Because his eyes, Bro, I think.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: So he's not fooling people because let me tell you,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: niggas bucket, he cares about scoring.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: Bro, No, I believe it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: He can score you saying you can outscore him. Bugget
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: for buckets, Sean Jackson with that, bro, it ain't too many.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: But they went Dela Dover and I was like, I
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: was killing and he was like you better keep that
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: ship going then and I was like, nigga ain't gonna stop.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: And he was like, well see if you go out
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: score me. I was like, yeah, I had nineteen, what
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: you end up with thirty eight.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I've only seen him get outdoored one time. I was living.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Only seen Bron get outdoored or like they was going
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: at it and somebody outdoing him. I only seen it
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: happen when I was there one time, and that was
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: when uh and he got his get back, so it
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: didn't matter but like that was when when Kate when
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: we played OKAYC on Christmas and he went for like
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: thirty something and KD went for thirty something. K might
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: have had one or two points more, but like they
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: was out there dueling to the point where it was like, okay,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: whichever one of them is the league scorer, that's what
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: whose team was going in? And I seen many duels
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: like that because when d Rose we played them, Yes, sir,
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: the only reason we beat Chicago is because the Rose
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: had I think, like thirty four and Brian had like
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: thirty five. And when we would go out and play Mellow.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Like it was like whoever about to say mellow? The
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: matchups was crazy, but.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: It would be not so much Bron because Bron was
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: what he would do, but whoever played better between Paul
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: George and Daddy Granger and d Wade was gonna be
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: who won. And d Wade used to get active against them.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: He used to especially the playoff time like like no,
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: like no threes. He was like thirteen for twenty twenty
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: five all field goals.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Like yes, I was like, and what's crazy? Even though people,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, we lost them, but it was battles.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Though it was battles, not Indiana used to make us
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: go through it. It was that was what It changed.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: That verticality rule though here with the max.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Player now right here, but changed the game.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I'm still we had a young PG too. We still
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: slip her.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: Career Brian Brian dominant, yeah, y'all and.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: In there too we came off the miss Our best
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: game was like, what's the different because starters if you
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: look at the starters, like the score, it was about even.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Talking about the Norse.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that y'all bench was the bench I had though,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: like having Shane, Baddy and Ray Allen come out of
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the bench Mike Millers, like the dudes is nice, Like
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe you had some of them on the minimum,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: like as a playing for the Hawks, Like we would
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: have loved to have Ray Hellen for that, Like you
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like how y'all you know I remember.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: All of them was like a hundred million dollar dudes.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Though Mike Miller made crazy Bread crazy with a max.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: But like listen, we would have gave y'all probably five
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: six minutes just to come to the super like you
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been a role player. You would have
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: been our guy. I always want to ask media, I
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: wonder how like that beef between him and Boston played
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: O friend to go to Miami were because I feel
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: like any any continuent would want to out at the
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: time period.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: But Ray was trying to win and we had a
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: need for him.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: That's the fact we had.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: He He could have went anywhere fit, but we had
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: an actual need because Mike Miller I got back injury,
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: and you know, we had James Jones. But James Jones
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: was like a specialist shooter, you know, shout out the champ.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: He was a specialst shooter. But we needed him in
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: that second unit and we put the way we play
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: like played start unit, so we would like get up
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: and down, and so we had a direct need and
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: so he was like, I come come there. The beef
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: with Boston was just like salt on the wound. That
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: was just like because he would have came anyway, like
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: if he was coming from like Milwaukee or somewhere, he
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: came to Miami. But that beef he had with them,
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: that was just like I felt him though, because it's
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: like they appreciated him the way they I can't say that, bro,
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: Used to play with him. I'm speaking from a fan
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: that's you know you fuck are right? I do too,
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: but I'm saying you was in the gym, but I
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: feel like him leaving them to go to mic pulling
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: up on y'all. From the outside, it looked crazy how
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: my nigga don't.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Feel the rivalry is like it was want to be
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: one so bad bro real, because I just always felt
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: like they ain't give a funk about Miami, like everybody
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: else in the league was kind of like besides like okay,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: see in the Spurs in Dallas, Chicago too, Yeah, but
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: everybody else kind of like, all right, we ain't gonna
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: beat them, Like in Atlanta. We wanted to play them,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: but we I thought we could have beat y'all when
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: we had Joe that team when I wasn't like my
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: second year, I'm like star game.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Nah, we col beat them that year. Hell no.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: But when I had when it was Joe, Jamal, Josh
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Marvin and I was coming off the bench, then they
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: still had bit. I'm like, we can compete with them.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Now we got we match up. We can switch one
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: through five and you coming off the bench, yeah fast
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: for yeah, yeah, but I'm like, we match up with
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Bron and now Kurt Hiary came. They traded Bid we
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: got That's when Bid went there, we got kur Haml.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: We can match up with him. We can play them
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: now we probably wasn't a beat up, but we could
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: match up.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: I ain't realize till after I left. We can match
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: up with any team. It's just a matter of we
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: would just play different. Like whatever team was gonna do something,
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: we would just adjust our personnel. So like when we
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: realized Chris Bosh, because Chris had been working on that
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: three ball for a while, he just never incorporated and
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: we remember he heard itself and came back from injury.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: That's when we started playing small ball with him at
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: the five. Once we realized we could play like that,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: we was like, however, teams want to play. If the
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: team want to go big, we would just c B
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: at the four, Birdman or u d or Joel Anthony
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: play just make it ugly. Teams want to play pretty
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: and go small ball. Ce B go to the five,
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Bron to the four, Shane Battie and Guarth the four,
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: d Way Ray me or Rio and then we had
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: just playing like that, so we could play any style.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: And if you wanted to play iol ball, which nobody
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: really wanted to play because d Wade was a real
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: iceold player. Nobody wanted to play possession ball with us
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: except San Antonio. There was the ultimate possessed team. With
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: everybody else, they knew they had to play a little
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: fast because all we had to do was throw the
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: ball to d Way on the wing, throw the ball
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: to CV at the you know, run that horns.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Actually that was a nightmare and a half o man.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: And then you you're gonna help off somebody and Shane
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: Batty is gonna knock it down, but or Mike Miller,
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: they're gonna knock it down. So like I realized when
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I left, I was like, man, we could have played
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: any style. Like people say, how would y'all compete against
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: other championship teams? I'm honestly we could compete against any
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: team because we could play any style. Its just a
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: matter of us changing our personnel around.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I like playing against you because you'll used to hedge
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: like college, I used to split them fucking ball screen.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: So I can't wait to play. I know we might
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: not win. Well, I'm gonna have a good ass game.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get summed out the crowd.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Stop doing that. It took us a long time to
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: get out of doing that.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna get smmed out of the crowd. Damnigga
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: out there, kilt.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Let me get hurt, because boy, you used to have
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: some good games. Yeah yeah, because the ball I'm like
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: the only stayed splitting the boss college.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: But then I hated people who sat back because you
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: had to play in the MIDI little pocket. You couldn't
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: shoot threes because they a fight over, so you had
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: to play in the midi by shot floaters.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: But they head something like let me get down here.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: I was opposite. I didn't like when teams were his
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: because it was hard to make the pass out of
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: the head didn't come off of the score anyway, so
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: they would be like in the drop or like a
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: semi drop. T B was the best in the pocket past. Yeah,
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: so I used to practice it, learn how to skip
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: it like so it bounced right to a shooting pocket.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: And then with Shane Battier, he gonna pop offway to
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: the three. So like you the got guard, you will
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: stay on your hip.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: You just stretched, stretched, stretch and then pass wide open?
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Do that with Al Horford? Yep, Yeah, I gotta ask man.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: We see Pat bav doing it now. You know what
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. You had your time in NBA. You know
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. How was that transition going to playing
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: overseas because a lot of people get a misconception like
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of great hoopers everywhere in the world,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: but it's a totally different game, especially a lot of
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: people seeing with the feeverball. How was that to go
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: back to Justin's Like you said, you in the league,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you learn your role till you get your own company.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Now you're back to playing basketball a little bit the
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: way you wante to. How was that to go back?
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit more refreshing that way.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: Nah, for real. Like people were saying stuff about Pat Bev,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: they don't understand he's trying to like in his career
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: playing ball the way he grew up playing ball. He
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: wanted to love it and like be himself. And when
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: you go overseas, that's what you expect they expect you to.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: If you're from America, you American guard, and you go overseas,
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: they expect you to kill.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Listen, when I say he was on the same with
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Indian Legendshaon Thoms. I said, oh yeah, it's all about
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: putting buckets up out there, and I know what he all.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: That's that's all it was about, Bro. And it's like
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: the game is different. So people be saying like it's
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: harder to play fever. To me, it's not. It's just
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  Speaker 4: a matter of what your skill set is, like if
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  Speaker 4: you can play, if you got ones, good ones, and
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: like you can shoot a little bit, you can play
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  Speaker 4: overseas because you're too fast for some of their guards
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  Speaker 4: to play one on one. Like, nobody one on one
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  Speaker 4: is gonna stand in front of me in Europe. It's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: it's slow like getting there. Difference is when you get
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  Speaker 4: to the realm, it ain't Dwight Howard back there blocking it.
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  Speaker 4: So you got a chance to actually do layups. You know,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: the play guards are block your shot, let alone the centers.
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  Speaker 4: So overseas, that's why they don't have no three seconds.
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  Speaker 4: They can just camp in the lane. There's some giants
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  Speaker 4: out there, Bro, like seven three casts, seven four cats
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  Speaker 4: out there. And you learn also how to like pass
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  Speaker 4: on time on target, because if you don't pass on time,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: the whole rhythm of the offense that you're running out
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: there will be bad because they not one on one player,
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  Speaker 4: so they depend on you passing to them on time.
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  Speaker 4: So I became like real precise. But I was used
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: to it from playing Miami. So they was like, hey,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: you know what, you can score, but you can pass
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  Speaker 4: better than what I'm like, I just spent seven years
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  Speaker 4: passing to like the best players in the world, and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: if I threw a bad pass, it was like come
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: out there.
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  Speaker 5: That helped.
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  Speaker 4: That makes you basketball again though, because like you love basketball,
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  Speaker 4: playing your role, but like sometimes you just want to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: be yourself. And when I my five years I played
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: in Europe, I was able to go back to Cleveland
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: state style, like coast to coast, no dribble, come down,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: no pass, puller good and get next. Yeah, for sure, for.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Sure that's fire. Like you said, like the business of basketball,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of time gets in a way. We talk
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: about so many people we know, like we talk about
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: the Mike Bees Joe crowd. We know could score the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: best of them. But the business and basketball can kind
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: of make you, you know what I'm saying, put yourself
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: in the shell.
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  Speaker 2: But then a lot of people don't come out of that.
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  Speaker 4: So kudos.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that you're get your opportunity
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: back to do what you do best and still want
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  Speaker 1: to hold because a lot of people shit you nine eight, nine,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: ten years of doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: You was like, I ain't even trying to go back
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  Speaker 2: to that type shit.
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  Speaker 4: Nah, for sure. That's why a lot of the guards
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  Speaker 4: overseas that are really good, they don't come back to
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  Speaker 4: the league because they're like, Bro, I can't go back
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  Speaker 4: to city on the bench, Bro, no matter how much,
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  Speaker 4: even if I'm getting vat minimal like guys like Mike.
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  Speaker 2: James, Shane most buckets ever over there, you.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: Know, saying them to Shane Lark and Mike James out
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: there getting busy out there. None Kendrick Nunney out there.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: He just want to win the championship. It was m
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: VP like, it's a bunch of guys Ronde, Hollis, Jefferson.
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  Speaker 4: He oversees one of the coldest international players in the world.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Bro can no like see Ron Day, but to come
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  Speaker 4: back to the NBA and then be relegated. Some dudes
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  Speaker 4: ain't with me to do that, and they paying you
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: like they're paying you nice. Once you prove, once you
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: go out there and your proven year man, they can
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  Speaker 4: pay you a livable ways where you like eating good
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: and always say it's spend the same no matter where
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: you get it from ehere, b And you get to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: live in places where people pay the vacation like the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: MafA Coast. I played in the Mafia Coast out the Italy.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: I played in Tel Aviv, I played in Malaga, south
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: of Spain. I played in like the capitol of Montenegro,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: so like fake real vacation spots, like just like Puerto Rico.
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  Speaker 4: Like so it's like, you know, people be paying big
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: money to go. I'm living out there for them.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm just about to ask you, the lifestyle adjustment.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: The food is so good out there, that's the best
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: part about it. Damn because novatives time.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: I heard it.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: But the fruit be like real fruit. It ain't all
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: that fake sugar and stuff. And the food out there
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: is fresh, there's no the foods. And then then the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: views out there, nice views.
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  Speaker 2: I heard that about that. The foods good.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie.
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  Speaker 5: I got.
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  Speaker 4: I had a real Italian pasta bro spaghetti from Italy,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: like an Italian man made it bro like the chef.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: I was like, and then a real pizza, not that
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: greasy stuff that we'd be having, real Italian pizza. I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: was like, I see why guys don't want to come back.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: I see why guys getting married out there and stay out.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: There crazy being positive, my boy, Yeah, I'm here to
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: kill you here.
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  Speaker 5: You ain't no, yeah, ain't no, ain't no Italian last year.
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  Speaker 2: Perfection, Tony's gonna be in that.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: You could have loved it.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: You would have liked it, though, at least for one year.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: In one of two years, the only you would to like,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: it's a long season.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I had a chance to go to Barcelona, but I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: just then for rom When I first retired, they wanted
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: me to come out there.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: I just they always try to pluck the freshly retired.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: They always tried to I was.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Like, Jacob pull was out there for Barcelona. Yeah, I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: don't know who's out there. I was like, man, hell now.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Now you made you get enough damage to where you
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: ain't I.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Should have went through. It's been a cool experience, but
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I'm so like homebody. That's why I live in Indianapolis.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: Tell me that's why I live in. That's why I
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: live in Dating.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm home.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: I quit going back out there.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: It would take a lot for me to go back
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: out there. Yeah, I find the leads to play because
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: ten months is like that's damn, but they'd be out
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: some cast be out there. Training can't start in August, Bro,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: they want.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: You way August through May. Like, how would I be
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: able to podcast?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: Your team is good? June when I played for Tel Aviv,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: we won the Israeli Championship. I left at the end
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: of August. I didn't get home till June twenty something, Bro,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: or June, like the last week of June. I was like,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: this is crazy. Happy you win the championship. This is crazy.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard. Tel Aviv nice though, the.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: Nicest place in the world. To be honest with you,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: it's like Miami, New York, and San Francisco all in one.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: Damn.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I ain't mad to be out there for.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: They got the beach. They got the beach, they got
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: the skyline like New York, and they got all the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: tech like house you know, San Francisco.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: Short vibes. Yeah, that's for a good time.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: The baby.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: You gotta give me some real chickens out there. If
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: I'm in the NBA, though, yeah, you go to another
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: you're gonna get some millionaire a year you don't get.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, Brad, you're really a homebody like that,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: Like I'm a home by the money into it though.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: The money was cool, but my mind wasn't there. Would
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: about the money if your mind ain't in it, if
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: you can't do the grind, right, that's what. That's why
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: I stopped going out there as much, because it's like
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: basketball is basketball. But I'm like, man, ten months is
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: too long for one too, Like I want to be
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: at home now, like I pay my dues. I'm a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: veteran now, like I should be to fly home and
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: sleep in my bed sometimes.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: So it's like now, my mind wasn't ready for nothing
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: like that, bro, And.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: They talk crazy to you sometimes I would matter who
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: no matter who you are, they yes, bro, every now
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: and then like you're a foreigner, Bro, that's exactly right
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: there at home. I would have left, would have been
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: like crazy ally to take you the cavary two days
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: to get out there. Yeah, they can't come cavalry pulling up.
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  Speaker 5: My niggas got passed Port, She laughed. She talking about
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: I'd have been a count of thrashop you talking.
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  Speaker 4: It's like that out there though.
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  Speaker 5: I mean respect hey man.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody overseas getting to it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, West, I've been trying to get over here. Now.
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• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I'm still shitty but.
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